public-chat

[winged yarrow]

Expecting it to load faster

Don't worry, ChatGPT will control the elevator eventually

[nova ingot]

Oh yeah it works great if you don’t want to have to deal with PDFs or in an office where you don’t want employees opening up emails. But in a lot of medical offices I remember hearing c—- that millennials didn’t know how to use something “as essential as a fax machine”

[winged yarrow]

Is it essential though? I think medical offices are the only ones where email is just straight up banned

[nova ingot]

It’s like knowing how to use a pay phone today. Not really needed. Or asking someone to tie a horse

[winged yarrow]

They could just create their own messaging system where everything was audited, but no they just stick to outdated methods.

[nova ingot]

In the medical offices I was at we get a lot of seniors and a lot of turnover

[winged yarrow]

I feel like a payphone is really simple though (although I've never used one)

[nova ingot]

So when a newbie needs to operate a fax machine, and not one of those dinky ones but a full machine of course it’s going to be a bit slow

[winged yarrow]

Oh the million button ones?

I could get that, the "fax machine" I used was just a printer. I put the paper in and hit fax, put the number in and hit enter and then it just worked

[hearty spear]

fax machines need to die off already

[nova ingot]

Xerox AltaLink C8135/H2 Copier

[winged yarrow]

forizzle yo

Especially since there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to fax to digital numbers and only receive digital copies

[nova ingot]

Pagers I’m okay with though

In their niche application. Especially in medical

[hearty spear]

why? texting removes an extra step

[pliant sphinx]

How can I reduce the noise of my cat

Should I undervolt it

[nova ingot]

Because when you need to hand over a device that might pass between 5 hands in the course of a day, that needs to deliver a quick message, and that is less likely to be “stolen” and has all week battery. A pager is ideal

[winged yarrow]

Take it to the mechanic, they might be able to put a quieter muzzle brake on it

[pliant sphinx]

Thx. It's been real annoying

[winged yarrow]

If email is blocked why wouldn't texting tho

[pliant sphinx]

Actually, it's waking me up at like 1:30 AM for like 3 days now

[hearty spear]

because texting works over cell service, and doesn't need wifi / data

[pliant sphinx]

I love my non-existent sleep schedule

[winged yarrow]

Email isn't blocked because it relies on their internet, it's blocked because it would be a severe privacy threat

[nova ingot]

As of 2020 80% of hospitals still use pagers

[hearty spear]

oddly:
Texting was (at one time) the single most expensive expensive data on the face of the earth, by MILES

[winged yarrow]

https://www.dphealthnow.com/why-doctors-dont-email-call-or-text-you/#:~:text=Legally%2C a healthcare provider is,must be secure and private.

I like it's a picture of a golf

[nova ingot]

And honestly dealing with 400 pagers that last 10-20 years is probably easier on inventory than replacing 400 phones every 2-3 years

[winged yarrow]

It would be kinda cool to have a pager

[hearty spear]

pagers were kinda dumb in the 90's. They aren't any cooler today

[nova ingot]

Or a flip/slider phone

[winged yarrow]

It's just a different kind of energy getting a call on a pager and going "Excuse me, I have to go" than getting a call on a phone you have on your person and trying to do the same (if you were trying to leave)

[nova ingot]

“Excuse me I need to text in front of you”

[pseudo mesa]

pretend you got a text

[winged yarrow]

You don't have to make up as much of an excuse with a pager because you can just be like "Yeah I need to take this call, but my phone is a landline at my office"

[nova ingot]

Get a pager that is actually an alarm that you can touch that beeps to help you get out of awkward situations

[winged yarrow]

Yeah but even with a text/call on my personal phone it wouldn't hit the same, I'd still have to make up some lie like "Sorry, my pet hamster just got eaten by my grandma's guinea pig on live television and I've gotta go clean it up"

[nova ingot]

Bluetooth pager that forwards specific messages ala smartwatch but retro

[winged yarrow]

Yo

Hey cool I used to have the Poco F3 as well

Why not just an Xbox One controller? It's bluetooth

[nova ingot]

Phone at the office? Landline? So you’re saying your boss doesn’t have have you immediately avaliable 24/7 even at 3 in the morning?

[winged yarrow]

If it's wireless it might, but you might need a usb to usb-c adapter if not

[winged yarrow]

In this scenario my boss would be me and I would have fallen to my anti-social patterns

[nova ingot]

Some newer Xbox 360 controllers had BY but for the most part no. They operated differently and require Dan adapter

[winged yarrow]

I mean for the Xbox One controller I just press the connect button between the triggers and then it shows up in my bluetooth list

But I don't remember that working for 360 controllers, so you might need to go get one

[nova ingot]

Xinput is both awesome and weird

[winged yarrow]

That would be one of the best tho, not sure if the ps5 controller is good for that

[winged yarrow]

Agreed, which is wack since I'd assume it's essentially the same drivers they use for xbox no?

[nova ingot]

I think xinput is a standardized controller layout?

[winged yarrow]

So does Microsoft have a proprietary driver on the xbox that's separate from what they ship with Windows?

Why is it wack on win but not wack on not win?

[stray apex]

I'm pretty sure xbox controllers use a proprietary 2.4ghz and not bt

[nova ingot]

I used to mess with windows and controllers back in the day. Xinput made everything so much easier

[winged yarrow]

Oh but it still registers on the bluetooth on my PC or what?

[pure olive]

they have bluetooth

they just need a special adapter for pc

[stray apex]

...so not bluetooth

[nova ingot]

According to wiki xinput is always running in the background and ready to receive inputs like a keyboard or mouse.

[pure olive]

i can use an xbox controller with my phone

[nova ingot]

I remember having to fiddle with drivers to make it recognize a game pad for k on fight

[winged yarrow]

I have a regular bluetooth and a chartreuse xbox one controller

[tired glade]

PS4 works without any problems too

[winged yarrow]

I'm confused why I have no special adapter but my controller works

Or is that just xbox 360 controllers and the xbox one controllers have moved further beyond?

[nova ingot]

PS4 is a different Gen forward of Xbox 360 iirc

[winged yarrow]

Could their proprietary 2.4GHz be compatible with bluetooth or based on it in some way?

[winged yarrow]

Yeah PS4 came out around the same time as the original xbox one right?

[nova ingot]

Should have

PS4 had the touchpad right

[winged yarrow]

ye

[nova ingot]

Yeah ps3 was just dual shock 2. There was a push for pc interactivity with that Gen.

[pure olive]

simply incorrect

[winged yarrow]

Now Deprecated Origin Launcher > Steam

[winged yarrow]

dualshock 2 is probably still one of the best

I can actually feel my thumbs ghost soreness when I think about dualshock 2 no lie

[tired glade]

Dualsense is best,ps5 controller

[winged yarrow]

that is what I've heard

I haven't had too much experience with it yet though

[gilded quest]

It has such an amazing feature set

But I find Xbox one/series to be a tad bit more comfortable to hold

[tired glade]

I don't like asymmetrical possession of analogue sticks,so ps controllers were the better for me

[gilded quest]

I prefer the PS layout as well

[amber stone]

Just about to spend a load of money on computers. Anything like Honey around that works in the UK? I used Honey a few years ago and it never came up with any valid codes for the UK.

[low rain]

Me and my friends r boutta start a non-profit

[nova ingot]

Me: “I’ll never use this phone case again. It’s all yellowed. Guess I’ll store some extra screws in it.”
Me 5 months later
“Oh hey my old phone case. Guess I can use it. Oh son of a “

[summer folio]

Revanced sucks

Vanced auto switched to 1x when you catched up on Live streams in 2x speed

Revanced just shifts between buffer pause, 2x speed, buffer pause 2x speed, if you catch up on live stream

[forest valve]

PS3 is dual shock 3

[forest valve]

For some reason my YT patch keeps getting messed up whenever they update the recommended version and somehow my YouTube keeps downgrading

[modern terrace]

anyone else miss the aero theme in windows 7

[summer folio]

Dual Schock 1 ruined Playstation controllers forever

[summer folio]

Original PS1 Controller was perfection! 😍
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_controller#/media/File%3APSX-Original-Controller.jpg

[full fossil]

My wifi isnt working

Im trying to use discord on my wifi but it wont work only cellaur

[plain dome]

Is it just discord that isn’t working?

[shut violet]

The ps3 controller wasn’t just a DualShock 2

You had analogue triggers as well

[long briar]

too graphically demanding

material is a much nicer theme

[tired glade]

It was fine

[long briar]

It's what slowed vista down

I mean this is coming from a guy who runs wallpaper engine at 100fps

[forest valve]

Early models

[shut violet]

Nope

[tired glade]

Vista had way more problems than just high graphical use

[long briar]

but aero is more graphically demanding than w10 or 11 themes

[modern terrace]

Technology now can handle it better than nearly 2 decades ago

[forest valve]

PS3 was sixaxis or DS3

[shut violet]

Yup

[forest valve]

PS2 had some button to switch to analog

I never knew what it did

[shut violet]

The earliest ps3 pads had no vibration

[forest valve]

Yea the sixaxis ones I think

Newest ones are combos

There's test kit controllers for PS4 that look like PS3 controllers

[long briar]

but the primary reason I didn't like aero in 7 was because of windows 8.1

[forest valve]

Bruh

[long briar]

8.1 is hands down the best os Microsoft has released to date in terms of looks

[forest valve]

This looks exactly like what a Dual shock 3 would look like without the sticks and ps button sorry to say

[forest valve]

What are you on can I get some?

[long briar]

You're free to argue; what's your favorite?

[summer folio]

If you install a 3'rd party Window Classic Start Menu, sure!

[long briar]

?

[forest valve]

Windows 10 looks the best in terms of actually usable versions of Windows, I'd say Windows 11 looks even better but I wouldn't use Windows 11

[long briar]

8.1 is fine? I think you're confusing it with 8

8 was an absolute abomination

with windows 10 it depends

[forest valve]

Windows 8/8.1 was pushing that whole flat tile crap way too much

[summer folio]

I want grey Windowz 95 style start menu

[long briar]

I've hated the ui since 2004, fav is 1511, then 1903

[winged yarrow]

I'm using windows 11 at home and it works out pretty well imo

[forest valve]

Best thing added to windows was per application/audio stream audio devices

[winged yarrow]

Got some pretty good UI, I just wish the start menu's search function worked like literally any other operating system

[long briar]

idk what is it doing tbh

[forest valve]

I used it for a bit on my laptop but I couldn't stand gaming on it on my desktop. COD had some weird lag and it wasn't worth it

[long briar]

they also broke alt tab in 2004

[scarlet relic]

i have one (for the PS Classic)

[winged yarrow]

Hasn't bothered me ngl

[long briar]

alt tab used to be ALWAYS the last app you opened

[winged yarrow]

Same, I have one of those and one of the original dualshock ones

[winged yarrow]

Is it not that now?

[scarlet relic]

i have the gray dualshock and the PSone dualshock

[long briar]

then in 2004 with the introduction of edge tabs in alt tab it just broke, sometimes it'd reset so I'd switch out an app, do something, switch back and it's an entirely different app

[long briar]

no it's been broken since

[winged yarrow]

So it's based on which app you used last not which one you opened last, so like if I go from discord to chrome to a terminal and then alt tab then it'll be terminal, chrome, discord in that order

[long briar]

no it's just bugged

[winged yarrow]

And it is based on the window itself and not the application in its entirety

Record this bug because it works fine for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[long briar]

it's sporadic

[winged yarrow]

It's okay, just switch to win+tabbing

Use the mouse more

[long briar]

alt tab is normally faster and reduces chances of rsi

[winged yarrow]

Roberts Space Industries?

[long briar]

the less movements to a mouse I can do, the better. I've gotten used to holding alt tab for a bit longer just to make sure I get the right app

[long briar]

repetitive strain injury

[winged yarrow]

ah

[long briar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury

[winged yarrow]

I see

We just need to start over

Let's go grab the source code for windows 3.1 and ms-dos 6.22 and rewrite it all in rust

[summer folio]

3D games were indeed better back in Windows 3.1 days

[jaunty compass]

"I'm gonna do this in just an hour"

the stream is almost 3 hours long

[runic lagoon]

Quake

[hearty spear]

in his defense: That looked like ass to build in

[jaunty compass]

still it's funny

[hearty spear]

hahahahahahahaha
no.
There are plenty of vintage games I miss from the 80's and 90's.
But to claim gaming was better back then is nothing more than "I'm old and things were better when I was a kid."

[tardy terrace]

It makes me want to build a little case integrated into my desk's hutch

[runic lagoon]

When I go back to Mario. It seems like such a simple game.

[hearty spear]

simple platformers still exist and are fun

[runic lagoon]

Is it just me. Or does new Mario game feels very different from old.

[hearty spear]

most are, but mario's been around for nearly 40 damned years, things will change along the way

Trust me, I get it:
When they have re-released "remakes" of games I played in the 80's and 90's? I get salty about the changes. But I also look at it and go "This is 110% rose colored glasses bullshit" because most of the changes are not that significant to gameplay.

[summer folio]

Have you even tried Pong? It's great!

[hearty spear]

that was 70's 😛

my jam from the mid 80's was Ms Pac Man

[tardy terrace]

that desk is $3700USD holy fuck

[jaunty compass]

now that's a lot of money for a desk

[tired glade]

It's import from EU and made in Finland

[winged yarrow]

idk bro 3d gaming on templeos is some of the highest tier 3d gaming

[tired glade]

No

[red marten]

doubt it

[winged yarrow]

My desk was $1k and it was way too much

[red marten]

the devices change from generation to generation, so there will be some incompatibilities by nature

[winged yarrow]

and the fucked up part is it wobbles god fuck damn

[tardy terrace]

shall i pull the trigger on this orange pi zero

[hearty spear]

absolutely not

[red marten]

(and part of it is that they don't want backwards compat with their controllers, since it is totally doable)

[tired glade]

Yes

[winged yarrow]

ya

[tired glade]

Orange pi is very good

[hearty spear]

the only controllers I know of that are cross-console? Are wiimotes. (And GC Controllers on the Wii)

[winged yarrow]

Orange pi zero is very good times zero which = zero which is debatably a real number

[tardy terrace]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B973ZTP3

[tired glade]

Xbox elite something something also cross gen

[tardy terrace]

oh wait that one isn't shipped by amazon

[winged yarrow]

Definitely cool, but I'm still more excited for my 64GB DDR5 coming in on Saturday

[tardy terrace]

This one is!!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09TR3BH34

[red marten]

yeah it's a shame.

with xbox one, you could stream the game to your PC and plug a 360 controller into your PC to use it, but that's such a roundabout way of getting what should be a basic feature

[tired glade]

Mali G31 is pretty good

[jaunty compass]

i'm excited for that new orange pi handheld they're going to release

[tired glade]

It won't be super powerful

[tardy terrace]

I'm specifically going to use it for pihole

just gonna power it off the router's usb

[forest valve]

You can if you plug it in with the USB

But the PS button doesn't work

I tested it myself

[cerulean saffron]

My z270F mobo with 7700k has 4 RAM slots... Been using 4x 8GB (32GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 XMP since years. I found some 32GB sticks for a great deal, was thinking if I can get 128GB RAM (4x 32GB) working on it. Same clock timings/frequency/xmp profile (no I wont be mixmatching sticks)

But 7700k official website says max memory supported is 64GB... What happens if I put 4x 32GB sticks in all slots?

[fossil frost]

max memory supported means the maximum they have validated and will guarantee that works, technically, they only do that for certain sticks too... you CAN put more in, but it may or may not work, and its complete random chance, depends on the specific board and specific cpu (not make/model, that specific chunk of silicon)

[acoustic pond]

yea just because you can fit 128GB of memory in a board does mean it will see it all, only the max the board allows like 32GB or 64GB for example

[fossil frost]

you may be able to physically fit 128gb in... it might work if you have a good IMC and a good trace layout on the motherboard... or, you might have a weak IMC or shitty traces, and only 1 channel will work, or, neither channel..

[long briar]

imma be honest with you a 7700k won't benefit from more than 32

you're better off saving the money for a full platform upgrade

[cerulean saffron]

actually i need more RAM because this is my server build now... it's doing a lot of stuff incl running a modded minecraft server that uses 10GB RAM (400+ mods 😂 )

I dont mind slower speed... slower RAM is still better than pagefile

[pale bronze]

shark tanks first pitch was the ionic ear , xD

[cerulean saffron]

I'll get 1 stick at a time and see if each one works... does that sound good

4x 8GB vs 1x 32GB, the capacity remains same so everything running on it won't mind

[fossil frost]

1 stick could work, 2 sticks could work, 3 may not work, because its mixed usage in the channels, 4 may work because its balanced again

[pale bronze]

i also have a monopoly over wires going into suites and vests, fubu was forced to recall millions of $ in already made stock

[tardy terrace]

give us atx boards w/ 2 dimms for superior memory performance

god i cant wait for a DIY motherboard company

[pale bronze]

yea like i said im making all max cpus under $100

dont blow yourself up now you might lose an eye

[tardy terrace]

Pick your rear I/O!
Pick how many m.2 slots you want!
Physical PCIe configs!
varying VRM/EPS connections for how serious of an overclocker you are
\o/

[polar fern]

man that epson pc would be perfect for me though its too expensive -_-

[tardy terrace]

I love the case tbh, its the perfect amount of sleeper

[pale bronze]

soon everything will fall into place

[polar fern]

its legit exactly what i need

[tardy terrace]

imagine modular rear I/O

holy shit, please

[pale bronze]

umm lets not talk about that here

[polar fern]

about what?

[pale bronze]

your too minimal

[polar fern]

my too minimal?

[pale bronze]

everyone understood that

dont think about it too much, but technology will be advanced

[polar fern]

anyway

would be cool just to have the case and find the right board etc -_-

[tardy terrace]

I have adhd, there is no "stop thinking"

[uncut axle]

Just a tip, when doing yard work and moving big pieces of wood, don’t go out in shorts.

[lucid echo]

Yeah that pop out drive bay was sick

[tardy terrace]

how badly do your knees hurt

[polar fern]

yes yes yes

[uncut axle]

Not really

[tardy terrace]

oh no did you get ticks

[full fossil]

Hello

[uncut axle]

Just I was rolling a piece of wood from a tree we cut down, and it fell on my foot

[full fossil]

Should I be worried if my power supply produces heat?

[uncut axle]

And scraped by leg as well

[tardy terrace]

Please tell me you were wearing proper shoes

[uncut axle]

The Linus special, Socks with slides, although it doesn’t terribly hurt

[full fossil]

It is a Seasonic S12 III, 650W. It is only blowing 45 degree air, if it s*ck up 320 watts from plug.

[tardy terrace]

The AC>DC conversion process creates heat, so does stepping down voltages through mosfets. Yes, it's perfectly normal for your PSU to create heat, especially if under high load.

[full fossil]

But the voltages are very very stable.

[uncut axle]

It’s probably fine

[tardy terrace]

also, the lower power you draw on a higher wattage psu the less efficient the conversion process is, and losses are formed as waste heat

[full fossil]

My FSP PSU doesnt even get warm under load

[uncut axle]

What components are you using?

[full fossil]

i9-9900k, Msi GamingX GTX1070

[uncut axle]

Could depend on how much load it has

[full fossil]

Under full GPU load, it needs 320 watts constant

[uncut axle]

I would say 320w sounds about right than

[tardy terrace]

if you're overclocking that's immediately more load on the 12v rail

[uncut axle]

(Replying to this)

You also have a bit of loss in the conversation

[full fossil]

1070 eats 175 watts by itself xd

[tardy terrace]

my 2080ti chugs back 300w w/ a dinky-ass oc

[full fossil]

yeah but my FSP stays cool if loaded with 2-300 watts, but voltages drop on that one a bit.

[uncut axle]

Weird

What wattage is that one?

If it’s higher wattage, than it would make sense to me

[full fossil]

The seasonic is 650w, the Fsp is 700w, both are 80+ bronze

[uncut axle]

Ahh

[tardy terrace]

Im not insanely well-versed in electrical technical design, but the drop in voltage could be a comprimises to keep heat down, or it's just a byproduct of poor/cost-effective engineering

[full fossil]

Seasonic was more expensive btw

[tardy terrace]

where's tynan or that aus/nz guy w/ long hair

[uncut axle]

The Linus special over any other type, work boots? Nah, the Linus special is better

[uncut axle]

Those parts could convert power more efficiently meaning less heat

Maybe, that would be my guess

[tardy terrace]

but the 80+ scale isn't efficient at lower loads

[uncut axle]

True

[full fossil]

my system idles at 50-60w

[tardy terrace]

hence half load = heat

[uncut axle]

Although I believe they do 50% testing as well

Or is that like higher end ones

[tardy terrace]

try comparing that against the wall power & 12v power

[full fossil]

the wall power is 50-60w

[tardy terrace]

guarantee it's probably 5-10% higher power consumption on the AC side

[full fossil]

Probably yes

Maybe i should buy a 1000w titanium seasonic

[tardy terrace]

that'd make your issue worse

[full fossil]

once i plugged in a Radeon HD 6990 into my FSP psu, it drew up to 400-450 watts from wall when benchmarking the card, but psu was fine

[tardy terrace]

well actually worse/not worse

[glacial lantern]

need some fittings help if anyone could provide

[full fossil]

Now Linus 4090ti draws 1kw by itself

[tardy terrace]

nah, bios-level 1kw, but the connector limits it to 600w

+75w from the pcie slot

[full fossil]

He needs to solder more cables to the motherboard

[tardy terrace]

that's.. not how that works

[full fossil]

it was a joke

[jaunty compass]

nvidia and intel designing products that draw all of the electricity in your house so they don't have to make a better architecture:

[tardy terrace]

Jokes go over my head half the time

[tardy terrace]

I for one welcome a dedicated 240v@30A dedicated circuit just for my pc

7.2kw

[full fossil]

I think burning ryzen X3D chips was artifically made by intel because they are in serious trouble, when it comes to gaming and energy efficiency

Intel chips can also be burned down easily if you modify the bios

[tardy terrace]

Fuck it, might as well get a standby genset to power the damn circuit

[jaunty compass]

my pc has a 600w psu which is plenty for my system

a midrange last gen gpu and a high end cpu from 2 gens ago

[tardy terrace]

I'm very nearing the 750w limit for my psu, I have an 850w I need to swap in it but that means I lose my nice cablemod cables

[full fossil]

So i think intel did the bios modifications to get AMD in trouble by burning their cpu's with overvolting

[tardy terrace]

And how would that work, exactly

because the burning cpu's thing was Asus-exclusive to their boards due to their bios

sooooooo

[jaunty compass]

companies constantly making fire hazard products go brrr

[uncut axle]

I should be fine on my 750w, especially if I’m just gonna run a 5600g and a 6600xt

[full fossil]

Intel has employees everywhere, so someone had to modify the asus bios on the website

[jaunty compass]

my system runs significantly more power hungry components so you'll be fine

[tardy terrace]

You're insinuating intel has employees working at AMD/Asus..?

[jaunty compass]

mmm
corporate espionage

[uncut axle]

Probably

[tardy terrace]

I think you're watching too many espionage movies

[full fossil]

Obviously has lots of spies and undercover workers

[jaunty compass]

definitely, i have a 6600 xt and a 11800h that i have with a power unlock

[tardy terrace]

I think if Intel wanted to RE AMD's shit they'd do it. They probably are, and vice-versa

[full fossil]

I have a 5800X3D in an asus board and never exceeds 80C with a Scythe Katana 3 cooler, every cpu voltage is running on auto

[tardy terrace]

Again, it was specifically one asus board sku w/ a bios fuck-up

[uncut axle]

Honestly I hope I didn’t break my foot, it’s kinda sore but it seems fine

[full fossil]

My friend has the same cpu in a newer gigabyte board, and that cpu instantly goes up to 95C with 240mm AIO

[uncut axle]

Although something pretty heavy did fall on it

[jaunty compass]

this is in fact a desktop, just one that's a little pepega

[tardy terrace]

what is this conspiracy theory shit

[full fossil]

This is real bro

[tardy terrace]

I am well aware

But you are completely ignoring the info that's already published about this issue

[full fossil]

This is why i won't update my bios on my prime b450-plus

[jaunty compass]

corprate espionage has happened and will keep happening, so i wouldn't entirely dismiss anything

then again, occam's razor

[full fossil]

AMD starts to makes CPUs which are beating intel's flagship CPU in gaming, and also much more energy-efficient. A month later, mysteriously some of the new X3D chips unsoldered and killed itself and mobo. There are NO COINCIDENCES.

[jaunty compass]

orrr it could be an engineering oversight

[full fossil]

Intel's 12 and 13th gen cpus, are also constantly hitting 100C but never unsolder or kill itself. This is some serious
intentional deprecation.

[tardy terrace]

lmao at the instant jump to INTEL IS SABOTAGING COMPETITION

[full fossil]

And only done by modding the bios.

[uncut axle]

I guess engineering issues don’t happen

[tardy terrace]

holy shit

[full fossil]

Yes you said it right, intel is saboting because now they are the weak doggo

[uncut axle]

And why would intel only do that on asus boards?

[jaunty compass]

have you never heard of occam's razor

it feels like you haven't heard of it

[uncut axle]

Because I only heard of it happening on asus boards

[tardy terrace]

If you'd watch the video from GN about the issue, it's asus' OCP protection flooding current to the cpu even in a not-ready state.

[uncut axle]

But it’s intel working to make and seem bad, trust me

[tardy terrace]

and that there's already AGEISA updoots being pushed to all board vendors

[full fossil]

You are constantly getting manipulated by youtubers, and you cant see the forest from the tree

[tardy terrace]

No, I just choose to follow accurate information and not let paranoia get the best of me thru fear-mongering.

[uncut axle]

After a bios update asus made, everything was fine

And i don’t think gn is biased at all, they just give the information they find

Good or bad, and they do their own testing

[tardy terrace]

and infer with outside experts

[full fossil]

for example the Ryzen 5 3600 is a great chip, but engineers artifically hyper-aged it only by software

[tardy terrace]

apple

[full fossil]

It has better single core performance than the 9700k but its much worse now if you try to game on it

[uncut axle]

What

Maybe games just got more demanding

[tidal minnow]

Why is it that there are so many situations where
I can get x nvidia gpu but then there is x amd gpu for cheaper and its better?

Brand premium pricing moment?

[uncut axle]

Pretty much

[tardy terrace]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-Intel-i7-9700K/3481vs3335 what are you actually talking about my guy

[jaunty compass]

have you never heard of occam's razor

[uncut axle]

Or more like greed

I call it “nvidia’s greed”

[full fossil]

according to the previous benchmark software, the 3600 is faster WTF

I havent checked it in a while

[tardy terrace]

because it is in multithreading

holy shit

[jaunty compass]

the 3600 is faster in multi thread, but the 9700k has a higher single core, which means games will likely run better on it

[tidal minnow]

If amd doesn't snap nvidia back into reality, then amd might actually become what nvidia is now. If that happens I don't bank on arc competing with them two if they become that.

[tardy terrace]

"amd nerfed the 3600 because the 9700k is better" what is this argument

[jaunty compass]

i think you need to snap back to reality

[tardy terrace]

oops there goes gravity

[full fossil]

I said the previous benchmark software, not this one

[uncut axle]

Yeah, I’m hoping for arc to do well and preform well

[burnt robin]

Kinda interesting how close XTX to 4090 in VULKAN?

https://twitter.com/GeforceMania/status/1654242604672860160?s=19

[full fossil]

nope

[jaunty compass]

that's probably a problem

[tidal minnow]

Same, maybe it's the bulldozer architure redemption story for intel?

[uncut axle]

Maybe

[tardy terrace]

Please read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

[uncut axle]

I mean for like $250, it isn’t terrible

[tidal minnow]

And since these are some of their first gpus they aren't actually too bad. They are painted in a bad light imo

They actually have nice value and it's not like gaming Is it's only focus? (Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they meant for streaming editing and stuff like that in mind?)

[uncut axle]

Kinda

[jaunty compass]

the price helps too

[full fossil]

I cannot understand what is this trying to say

[uncut axle]

Av1 helps with encoding a lot, which is why the a380 isn’t bad

Maybe the a310 has have av1, not sure

[tardy terrace]

That's our problem with your argument.

[full fossil]

So you are saying that intel's sabotage against amd is false?

[tardy terrace]

Duh.

[uncut axle]

The a380 is like $120 on Newegg rn

[jaunty compass]

we're saying that maybe you need to take a second and think "is it more likely that a few engineers fucked up, or that it's a corprate conspiracy"

[tidal minnow]

Intel is sabotaging amd? What? I'm confused. Sounds like a big issue if its true.

[tardy terrace]

up next- we're all intel employees

[full fossil]

But how can it be an engineering mistake, if the platform previously worked fine? It just doesn't fit together. And the fact that the overvolting BIOS from Asus website was suddenly removed after the incident, is also pretty SUS.

[tidal minnow]

Cool. And I mean it seems like if intel gets the software nice and done up it will make the gpu much better in a way and it can be used as a reason to lower the price rather than using gpu software to make an excuse as to why current gen gpus aren't beating last gen gpus by alot cough cough 40 series.

[tardy terrace]

I am IRL stammering
Oh my god.

[jaunty compass]

it was probably removed because it fucking killed boards and they noticed it was a bad bios

like-

💀

[full fossil]

But how can a bad bios be uploaded on motherboards, and website?

[jaunty compass]

you're actually an idiot

[tardy terrace]

holy shit

[full fossil]

Someone had to put it there

[uncut axle]

Yeah

[uncut axle]

Is bro actually using that as a argument💀💀

[tidal minnow]

Stupidity. Not surprising from nvidia, amd and intel. Sometimes it feels like they don't even share a single braincell. At worst it's an oversight which wasn't seen by engineering. No one sabotaged anyone. Mistakes are made and can we really blame them

Cant*

[jaunty compass]

(it was an asus bios update)

[tidal minnow]

Ah. I still go back to my point of every tech company in 2023 shares 1 braincell. It seems like all their marketing teams are hoarding them.

[tardy terrace]

Hold up I gotta bust out a cider for this now

[full fossil]

Engineers probably know if you give 1.4V on 7nm, it fries

[tardy terrace]

Engineers probably didn't examine the OCP issue that was documented by multiple third parties after the fact.

[full fossil]

So someone had to set the voltages there, bios is not creating itself

[jaunty compass]

pov: you've never accidentally typed the wrong number

[tardy terrace]

pov: you understand nothing about the situation or technologies that go into said situation

[tidal minnow]

(That would be me butting in to the situation too)

[full fossil]

I experienced this voltage shit with my 3600 for myself so maybe i know something

Luckily the X3D gets good voltages in my mobo

[jaunty compass]

yeah, you really don't

[tidal minnow]

Buy a 9800 gt nvidia graphics card. 😎 all your problems will be solved.

2008 tech is the future!

[jaunty compass]

this has to be bait

[full fossil]

[jaunty compass]

this has to be bait we fell for

[tardy terrace]

I'm-
I j-

[full fossil]

You are intel employees guys, i know

[tardy terrace]

I want to slam on my desk from this moronic argument holy shit

[full fossil]

Ur even wearing blue shirt

[jaunty compass]

i'm wearing a red shirt, right now

[tidal minnow]

What are you talking about the 9800gt nvidia graphics card comes with 512mb of vram (I think Idk anymore it's probably lower XD) and it can run jedi survivor at 12345678910 fps

[jaunty compass]

🗿

[full fossil]

So you switched to team red, great, welcome to my office

[jaunty compass]

i've been wearing a red shirt all day

[full fossil]

I bet there is an intel tattoo right upon your right nipple

[jaunty compass]

nipple inside

[tidal minnow]

Honestly. I am gonna switch to team blue. I hope that intel somehow integrates both the software and integrated graphics on their cpus with their software potential on their new gpus to make something amazing. I may be team red now for my pc build but I want that to be changing. From green to red to blue to green etc. A competitive market is the cornerstone to a healthy business consumer relationship. Maybe even team orange might pop up. 2024 is the year team blue is an official competitor!!

[jaunty compass]

I'm waiting for arc battlemage to come out before i decide something, but i'm hopeful

[tidal minnow]

Let's all be hopeful!

[jaunty compass]

orange pi is making some handheld PCs that are reportedly at super good prices, I'm definitely going to buy one if those leaks are accurate

[tidal minnow]

Now I feel bad for having a team red pc build ):

[jaunty compass]

it's reportedly going to be $430 for a handheld pc witha 7840u, 16 gigs of ram, and 512 gigs of storage

[full fossil]

Intel's chips are also amazing, for example the 7700k is a legendary architecture, they used the 7700k's cores all the way up to maybe the 10th gen i9 flagship cpu, but i think now we got to 12, 13th gen, 350 watts of power consumption from a desktop cpu is just not normal for me

[jaunty compass]

and they have an orange colorway

[tidal minnow]

2024 is the year when competition starts and people are gonna buckle their seat belts.

[jaunty compass]

like, look at that

if that price is correct i'm definitely getting one of those

[full fossil]

11900k also uses the same architecture cores as the 7700k

[tidal minnow]

It looks cool, I just don't like the look of the controller design but that's more my opinion than anything. I keep seeing these really good pieces of tech that are made portable as a switch knock off when I really shouldn't.

[jaunty compass]

all of the skus are going to use that same design, of which there are 3
the cheapest is arm based and the more expensive ones are x86_64

the $290 one is going to be a ryzen 7 6800u

[hollow shell]

did you guys talk about the discord naming system change here?

[jaunty compass]

at least according to the leaked pricing, which i'm excited about if it's true

[hollow shell]

i've been malding about it since yesterday

[tidal minnow]

No. Idk. We have been talking about a conspiracy theory apparently for the last 10 ish minutes

[jaunty compass]

that display is 7 inches

so they're not exactly tiny

[hollow shell]

https://discord.com/blog/usernames

[tidal minnow]

When I think about it in pc screen terms that's tiny but I keep forgetting these should really be compared against tablets In terms of screen size.

[jaunty compass]

tablet, or deck, or even the switch

[hollow shell]

it's dumb, everyone with a previously simple name will now need to add random complex stuff because instead of 10000 people having the same name, only 1 person can have it

[jaunty compass]

switch oled has a 7" display

the original has 6.2

[tidal minnow]

The TE#4393

Wrong copy 💀

[hollow shell]

the change is honestly a huge disrespect to discord's identity, it's stupid, it was such an identifying feature of discord.

[tidal minnow]

Then send your feedback against it. More people who give feedback. More in touch with the community discord is able to be.

[hollow shell]

We also recognize that our current username format has been one of the things that makes Discord unique, and that this change makes our usernames look a lot like those on other platforms. To be blunt, that’s kind of the point.
their reasoning is literally that because most social apps use the basic username system they should too, lol

[hollow shell]

oh boy you haven't been on reddit have you

this is a hugely unpopular change

[tidal minnow]

I don't use Reddit. Unless it's unimportant.

[hollow shell]

yeah me neither, I just went to see where people were discussing it

I'm surprised they haven't reverted it yet, people were already complaining about it internally, but it's the upper business people that make these decisions

[tidal minnow]

So if all THOSE people send feedback then discord devs know that people don't like it.

[hollow shell]

they know, the discord devs commented, and got downvoted to shit

they are dismissing the username as not part of your identity as display names are supposed to do that

that's really just not how it works

[idle nymph]

At least nobody got my Name

[graceful burrow]

I'll give discord devs this
They really know how to not give a single shit what anyone on the platform wants

[vagrant flame]

Did the floatplane cooling video get pulled? Can’t see it anymore

[tardy terrace]

it's indeed gone, probably transcoding issues

[idle nymph]

For some reason most Brand nowaday do this

[hollow shell]

you won't be able to have spaces tho

[idle nymph]

WHAT

[hollow shell]

so you will have @quasi vessel_man_cheese_burger_apocalypse

[idle nymph]

Nah fuck this shit im rioting the fuck they been smoking

[hollow shell]

sorry @ one lmao

I never asked to @ one it automatically resolved that

[hollow shell]

this is literally the problem with not having discriminators and auto resolving normal @ without telling the user

[long briar]

it doesn't.

[vapid smelt]

19900k uses Cypress Cove 7700k is kaby lake

[long briar]

that'd be skylake from 6th gen then

and that heavily understates the improvements made to 14nm

even as far as going to thinning the die

[full fossil]

Whats the price and what does it play

[jaunty compass]

6800u model is reportedly $290
7840u is $430
They run windows

[echo canopy]

skylake was peak x86, all future arches make compromises

[long briar]

idk I think intel coffee lake was best

[full fossil]

huh

[fossil frost]

19900k is very much a few generations away yet 😄

[jaunty compass]

Yeah
The prices are insane if it's accurate

[full fossil]

thats lit

[long briar]

for consumer core series

[jaunty compass]

I'm definitely going to buy one if those are the prices, probably the 7840u model

[echo canopy]

skylake had better avx2 then coffee lake

skylake still beats zen3 with some instructions

[fossil frost]

and i beat usain bolt in some things... doesnt make me faster than him in general

[echo canopy]

That wasn't my point. My point was skylake was a VERY well rounded uarch when it came to performance in almost anything

[long briar]

well yea

[fossil frost]

yes, but, its outdated as fuck now, and needed updating, because if it was the best uarch there can be, intel would simply shrink it, but they didnt

well, they sort of did, the E cores are essentially skylake cores

some differences, but for the most part, yeah

[echo canopy]

maybe in perfomance

[fossil frost]

noope, very similar uarch for them too, almost like intel knew they had something good that was fer less performant, but if shrunk down, could be very efficient

[jaunty compass]

E cores are cool, I plan on getting a CPU with one for virtualization eventually

[long briar]

except that means you're forced to w11

[fossil frost]

anyway, ive just noticed its gone midnight, and ive spent 3 and a half hours stepping through kotlin bytecode, and decompiled kotlin to java code, trying to reverse engineer something just for the fun of it, just so i can prove to a multi million pound company that they suck. bed time

[echo canopy]

good night

[wet gull]

h

[echo canopy]

similar to what nexgen said, current schedulers on linux suck with big.little. Unless you assigned core/thread affinity for each VM or god forbid docker or program is gonna be fucky.

[long briar]

the only os with a scheduler that is optimized for big.little is W11

[echo canopy]

cough android and darwin.

[jaunty compass]

Me omw to run android x86

[long briar]

the only os made for x86

android x86 hasn't been a thing since what, android 5?

like it was back when RemixOS was a thing

[calm swan]

its not bad acc

[long briar]

and Intel was still trying to get into the android tab space with Intel Atom

[jaunty compass]

It hasn't been updated in a few months

[echo canopy]

there is a unoffical port for up to android 9.0

[calm swan]

android apps work fine on chromeos w intel chips right?

[long briar]

yes

[jaunty compass]

Or, almost a year now

[echo canopy]

because most android apps are fucking java

[long briar]

Oh I guess that'd count huh, chromeos tablets

[jaunty compass]

Last update was April of last year

[wet gull]

h

[nova ingot]

Just spent 4 minutes explain that you could hold left click to box select over multiple desktop icons.
I’m burned out

[grim ether]

Do you already have the 3060

If you don't, look at used market before buying a GPU

[echo canopy]

unless you have a beast of a cpu/overclock its fine

you can even use a 3080 on a 650 watt tho tbf with little headroom

[mighty lantern]

Can someone please help me find a good 1080p gaming laptop under 80k INR on Amazon.in or Flipkart.com.

[long briar]

500w is enough

[pseudo mesa]

I'm using like idk 500W with a 3080ti

[calm swan]

yeah

[pseudo mesa]

Yep I'm drawing ~300W on a 3080Ti

uh, that's just the card

But the rest of the system doesn't draw nearly that lol

[civic otter]

Hi I’m looking to take some college courses on IT related stuff but I don’t know where to start

[manic torrent]

at the beginning, it's a very good place to start

[civic otter]

@manic torrent thank you for the advice my problem is solve balance has been restored to the universe

[manic torrent]

I mean... just pick something you want to know, and start learning

[topaz plinth]

Guys no way, I just found a 3060 for $250?!

Although, as it is rn, Radeon/AMD would be a better option for a GPU

[vapid smelt]

the 8gb or 12gb model?

[topaz plinth]

12gb

[sonic bison]

Why hasnt the latest video been released to youtube yet when its on floatplane?

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NjM48d/asrock-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx6650xt-cld-8go $259

[manic torrent]

100% this

[topaz plinth]

Yeah, you're not wrong. I need to get more familiar with AMDs cards

[tardy terrace]

My r9 390 served me oh so well

[civic otter]

@manic torrent the fact of the matter is that I don't really know where to start and i dont want to waste time taking courses with no benefit i was looking for advice on what to avoid or what to look for i dont have the time to try every one like im at a shoe store

[low rain]

Okay so basically me and my friends r starting a non-profit where we work on community work such as fundraisers, tutoring, food/clothing drives. I already know somebody who can make me a website, I have someone who can give us advice and tips cause they do this stuff, but what else do we need?

[manic torrent]

"no benefit" ? learning is its own reward, and why don't you have time

[low rain]

What other type of connections do I need?

[manic torrent]

also, who tries on every shoe at a shoe store?!

[low rain]

I only try on the shoes that look nice or are known for being comfortable

[civic otter]

It’s just an example and it’s just the fact that I’m a person that doesn’t like to waste time

[pulsar violet]

I'm so excited, I ordered NFC tags just for fun

[civic otter]

I want to know fundamental things before I look at everything else

[manic torrent]

what do you know ... now.

[vapid smelt]

huge nerd moment

[pulsar violet]

Yes, so much cool stuff to do now

[dreamy otter]

I want to get some now lol

Would be interesting to put one by my garage door and have my phone open my garage

[vapid smelt]

now i just need to steal your phone to access your garage

[dreamy otter]

It would have to be unlocked obviously 😂

I’m not that dumb.. lol

[vapid smelt]

your pin is 3489

[dreamy otter]

false

[vapid smelt]

o really what is it then?

[dreamy otter]

694200

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[manic torrent]

my phone already opens my garage?

[tardy terrace]

A fun activity for all of you-

Telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl & enjoy the first star wars movie in complete ASCII format

[dreamy otter]

Oh mine does too. It would just be easier to put my phone by the door and have it open though.

instead of having to navigate to the app.

[pulsar violet]

Lemme just share you my thought process, I was thinking about making a NFC Alarm clock with my iPhone and then I thought if I have my phone then I can just turn the alarm off, so I thought why not put my phone in another room and my NFC Card in this room... ||Yes ik I'm dumb||

[nova ingot]

Nothing a $5 Coersion wrench can’t unlock

As the saying goes physical access to the kneecaps is total access

Also I’d have a hard time getting a $5 wrench

[manic torrent]

you could also open the garage with the $5 wrench

[vapid smelt]

very fancy 3 buttons

[pulsar violet]

This also works

[vapid smelt]

some hoas wont allow that

[pulsar violet]

Pssh, the HOA doesn't need to know, it's just like not cutting your lawn, just a minor inconvenience

[ebon otter]

what cod game do you get pourd in gas the burned at the end?

[nova ingot]

Remember when phones had IR emitters

[tender geyser]

of course linus finds some way to shill for the nhd15

[vapid smelt]

the old over priced and weak nhd15

[ebon otter]

help

[dreamy otter]

I had a Samsung tablet when I was younger than had an IR emitter lol.

[vapid smelt]

idk we are not google

[wispy marsh]

There are usb ir blasters

[ebon otter]

google doesnt give me an answer. been looking form half an hour and cant find a striaght answer

[nova ingot]

There was a manga where a guy who got into a coma at 2000 woke up in 2017 and was surprised that phones didn’t have IRemitters

[vapid smelt]

ask chat gpt

[ebon otter]

link

[nova ingot]

Ask Clyde. He’s weird

[vapid smelt]

pay me $5 and i will link chat gpt website

[dreamy otter]

[nova ingot]

Can I threathen you with a wrench instead

[tepid bolt]

Pay me $10 and I will ask it for you

[forest valve]

:clap:hello:clap:

[dreamy otter]

pay me $100 and I will provide a screenshot of the chatGPT website

[nova ingot]

Can I take a picture of $10 and give it to you as an NFT

[pulsar violet]

My classmates were saying that Snapchat AI is better than ChatGPT, I was like

[vapid smelt]

snapchat ai is so dumb it wont teach you how to make wine

[nova ingot]

JFGI with Clyde

JFCI

[pulsar violet]

I was gonna explain how Open Source API and stuff works, then I was like "I'm to lazy rn"

[nova ingot]

Clyde make me a Vtuber avatar when

[forest valve]

How do you use Clyde

[ebon otter]

it didnt know

[forest valve]

Probably nitro crap

[nova ingot]

Ping Clyde. This server probably banned it though

@Clyde you here

[forest valve]

@Clyde hi

[ebon otter]

its cod mw2

[full fossil]

guys a question can you mod your GPU

[gilded quest]

sure

[vapid smelt]

PI

[manic torrent]

No, it's illegal

[crude jasper]

yeah

you can mod a base 3070 to be 16gb the scuffed way

it makes your 1% and 0.1% lows insanely higher

around like 10fps more on average in general

[vapid smelt]

or you could buy the faster and cheaper rx 6800 16gb ezpz

[gilded quest]

cool youtube video
not a great idea in practice for the average 3070 buyer

[vapid smelt]

no one was foolish enough to buy a rtx 3070

[gilded quest]

true

[crude jasper]

hence thge scuffed

[gilded quest]

My gpu turns 5 in a few months

[crude jasper]

3060ti, 3070, and 3080 were well worth it on release

[gilded quest]

well, 5 months

[manic torrent]

literally it was the only card I could get 🙂

[vapid smelt]

[crude jasper]

got a 3080 within a week of wanting one a month and a half after release, L bozo

[manic torrent]

.... ok guy

[vapid smelt]

then the better and similar price rtx 3080 12gb came out few months after

[manic torrent]

I sold the 3070 to change up to a 3080ti

[crude jasper]

i got mine for $750

[gilded quest]

i got a 3060ti then sold it for a nice $50 profit
i could have sold it for a $400 profit ugh

[vapid smelt]

i could have sold my rx 5700xt for $500 profit

[manic torrent]

I could have sold my grand mother into slavery for $500

[crude jasper]

i have 12 i could have sold for $400 profit

[gilded quest]

naw m8 shes worth at least six hundo

[manic torrent]

maybe a few years before 🙂

[versed temple]

Did LTT really just make a video to prove the best air coolers are better than the worst AIOs?

[vapid smelt]

NHD15 isnt even the best air cooler

[gilded quest]

pretty boring video

like where was the LF2 420?

[versed temple]

Yeah, even the Peerless Assassin is better.

[vapid smelt]

weak nhd15

[versed temple]

Where were the EK or Lian Li AIOs?

People have said not to buy 120mm AIOs for years. And Corsair's have performed pretty bad as well. When they try to cherry pick the worst examples to prove a point, it heavily damages their credibility.

[gilded quest]

the h100i is very mid

[versed temple]

Yeah, like 3 new versions of it have come out, and they're only slightly better than the original.

[gilded quest]

there's like 10 H100i variants

[versed temple]

Ye, but I don't just mean white or RGB models.

There's the XT, the Pro and the V2.

All of which still suck compared to a good 240mm AIO, but at least they're better than the original.

I'm also curious how they managed to get lower temps in Cinebench than in games.
And Modern Warfare 2 is by no means a "CPU-intensive game," compared to something like Universe Sandbox, BeamNG or even Teardown.

[gilded quest]

uhh]

MW2 is like 13 years old

[versed temple]

Whichever new MW game they used to benchmark. I lost track of CoD games when BO3 came out.

[stray apex]

I mean, when the best air cooler is like $40

[gilded quest]

i stopped COD when sony started charging for PSN multiplayer

[versed temple]

Yeah, if you don't need an AIO, there's no reason to get one, but the video should've focused more on "get what you need" than "AIO is bad."

[versed temple]

I still play BO2 occasionally, and was surprised to find it uses 8 cores on my 3950X.

[stray apex]

Linus's argument is basically that an air cooler is fine for most people, and as long as you can fit one it's probably cheaper too

[versed temple]

Yeah, he often has the right intentions, but is really bad at getting the point across.

[vapid smelt]

then he also shilled the nhd15 saying even tough it twice the cost of the $40 cooler if you compare it to your builds total price its somehow more ok

[stray apex]

linus shills noctua and seasonic
it's how you can tell he's an old man

[versed temple]

Lol, yeah. Even back in the original air VS watercooling video, he said it was great. All that video was proving was that 2 fans in your PC is in fact quieter than 3 fans and a pump.

But you still need an intake and an exhaust fan.

[gilded quest]

lol
I think it shows when Linus last was in the nitty gritty of pc hardware

[stray apex]

depressingly
if you look at the popular coolers on pcpp
they were actually pretty close to what people use

[gilded quest]

burn it with fire

[stray apex]

you can't, it's filled with water

[gilded quest]

burn it with napalm?

[versed temple]

Fittingly, there is 4 Ls in the name, lol.

[vapid smelt]

very hot fire so it boils the water

[stray apex]

wouldn't it explode

[jaunty compass]

i have an aio, too

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/water-blowhole-blown-away-whoa-too-much-gif-17797635

[jaunty compass]

it was $45 but i''m one of those people i'm sorry

[vapid smelt]

[copper trellis]

Fucking hell, the server Im downloading from is capping my download at 1mb/s no wonder Its so slow

[serene vigil]

do you think when GTA 6 releases on steam itll break the all time peak players record? (if it releases alongside console versions)

[copper trellis]

Nah

[serene vigil]

personally i think itll do it pretty easily

[copper trellis]

People are too fed up with R* and with all of the important staff gone, GTA is dead as we know It

[serene vigil]

current peak is 1.5 by CSGO
gta v sold like 11m copies within 24hrs without a PC edition

[copper trellis]

GTA 6 wouldnt see the success of GTA IV

[copper trellis]

Yes, because that was a different management

[serene vigil]

Idk about all important staff

[copper trellis]

The Houser brothers, Lesile are all gone

R* has lost the people that made their studio a success

[serene vigil]

Rockstar still has a fair bit of writers all the way from the GTA 3-GTA San Andreas era, Dan Houser left most likely after most of the script was finalized

[copper trellis]

Well, without the Housers supervising further, I dont see GTA 6 being as good

[serene vigil]

He left in what, like 2020? Script is one of the first things that are finalized in a video game

[copper trellis]

Not to mention, the story in V is already weaker compared to IV or SA

[serene vigil]

Its more than likely that by the time he left, GTA 6 script was mostly fleshed, also Sam Houser is still in Rockstar

[copper trellis]

The only game that actually made me so bored in singleplayer, I stopped playing

[copper trellis]

Yes, but the final product hasnt been materialised yet

And GTA 6 is also confirmed to be mainly online

[serene vigil]

Untrue

[copper trellis]

No Its true

[serene vigil]

That rhetoric is being thrown around, but its not actually online, they're just adding more to maps as DLCs most likely, its not live service

[copper trellis]

Gta O is a live service game

[serene vigil]

Rockstar still makes way more in sales compared to online

[copper trellis]

They have nothing left, they destoryed the lore and added too many vehicles

[serene vigil]

Online does make them a shitton of money but most of it still comes from sales

[vapid smelt]

What a bunch of nerds

[copper trellis]

GTA O's sharkcard sales is what is keeping R* alive rn

[serene vigil]

no its not, what

[crude jasper]

classic liquid freezer W

[serene vigil]

the sales are still a primary factor of the revenue they make

GTA O is a big moneymaker, but its not all that

[wheat karma]

How is the Samsung QN90B as a monitor? I see everyone using the LG C2. But OLED BAD…

[manic torrent]

65" is a very large "monitor"

[wheat karma]

43 inches

[copper trellis]

Nope

Who tf is still buying their old games that has been on sale for a decade

[manic torrent]

I mean, there's various annoyances using a TV as a monitor, but it should be fine. I'm using an FO48U 48" OLED

[serene vigil]

A lot of people lol, its GTA V

[copper trellis]

Yeah and Its been 10 years

And they gave the game away too

[wheat karma]

But isn’t OLED bad?

[copper trellis]

I would spend more money buying GTA IV than GTA V

[serene vigil]

Yeah, which dont count as sales

[vapid smelt]

true blacks and super duper low response time is horrible

[manic torrent]

mine is first gen oled so I have to be careful of burn in, but other than that it's great

[serene vigil]

the game went from 120M total copies sold in feb 2020 to 175m in feb 2023

[copper trellis]

Yes, but now that Its free, a lot more people are going to have It which removes their want of buying It again

[serene vigil]

if thats not telling of how popular the game is, i dont know what is

[copper trellis]

It may just be people upgrading to next next gen

From next gen

[serene vigil]

The game was free in may 2020, its sold 45 since then

[vapid smelt]

OLED is so bad nearly every phone uses it

[wheat karma]

When did you buy it?

[copper trellis]

Again, next gen to next next gen upgrades

[manic torrent]

ages ago

[copper trellis]

No one cares about GTA V that much anymore, Its a 10 year old game that is milked to death

[wheat karma]

And it still stands?

[manic torrent]

no, it's on a wall mount

[serene vigil]

Yeah but there's still people buying the game? its still massively popular, and we are three years into the life cycle of current gen, a lot of the people who wanted to upgrade already did

i dont understand how you can say its not popular

[copper trellis]

Not everyone is on next next gen yet, give It like 5 more years for people to mostly transition

[serene vigil]

5 more years and then we are on next gen

[copper trellis]

It isnt anymore, Its the same thing over and over again

[copper trellis]

And

[serene vigil]

current gen has been readily available for a while, the sales are through the roof

[copper trellis]

current gen is x360, which is discontinued

You mean next next gen

[serene vigil]

what are you even talking about

[copper trellis]

No what are you talking about tho

[serene vigil]

I mean what? theres still a shitton of people buying and playing the game

[copper trellis]

That doesnt mean Its healthy, or worth playing again. R* has ruined the game and have yet to actually fix It

[full fossil]

Hi

[serene vigil]

My point is that its still popular, im not talking about the current state of online

Single-player is also still intact and working just fine

[copper trellis]

Its popular on account Its practically the only GTA game that is readily avaliable on all platforms

GTA IV is still the superior game

[serene vigil]

its also the most recent one lol

[serene vigil]

i mean yeah you can think that but im just talking about popularity and numbers

[copper trellis]

Hence why Its the most readily avaliable

[vapid smelt]

[copper trellis]

Numbers do lie in this case, GTA O is dying as we know It

[serene vigil]

aside from that, general reception of GTA 5 is also the best in the series, everyone has their opinions on which GTA is the best

[copper trellis]

Lmao no, GTA SA is the one that is still regarded as best and GTA IV is a close second/first

[vapid smelt]

fighting over GTA

[copper trellis]

GTA V is probably like somewhere in the middle, below GTA 3 and GTA VC most likely

My personal ranking:

[serene vigil]

General reception is still the best of GTA 5 though, yeah you can think GTA SA is the best and I think so too but the general reception is still higher, although not that big of a difference lol

[copper trellis]

GTA VCS, GTA IV, GTA 3, GTA CW, GTA LCS, GTA SA, GTA 2, GTA 69, GTA 61, GTA V, GTA VC, GTA 1 (controls mainly)

[copper trellis]

Nope, not by a long shot. GTA SA is the one that is still fanboyed after so many years

[night heron]

nostalgia goggles

[copper trellis]

Nope, VCS and IV have the most riveting stories and gameplay

3 and CW has fun gameplay

[serene vigil]

having GTA 2 over anything other than GTA 1 is crazy

[night heron]

if you give gameplay to anything other than GTA5 you have nostalgia goggles

story is of course preferential so you can pick any game you want

[copper trellis]

LCS doesnt really do anything different, 2 is okayish, 69 and 61 for setting but Its a bit bare bones, V for a meh story and online, VC cause I dont really know how to feel about It and 1 has god awful inverted controls

[copper trellis]

GTA 5 has worse gunplay than IV

It has more guns, yes, but gunplay is dull. So is unarmed combat

Most guns dont even feel nice to shoot, unlike in GTA IV

[serene vigil]

dawg half the guns in GTA 4 feel like im shooting firecrackers out of a basketball

[night heron]

that is only one sub-category of gameplay

[copper trellis]

Then you arent using It right

[serene vigil]

GTA V guns feel quite a bit better than GTA 4

[copper trellis]

That is of course ignoring the better driving (tho ill say flying is easier in GTA V than IV)

I could barely fly an annihalator in GTA IV but Im so good in GTA V, I once drifted a maverick under a bridge

[copper trellis]

Disagree

Its much more dull, GTA 4 guns are made understanding each gun is for specific situations

[vapid smelt]

I still cant believe you guys are arguing over gta

[night heron]

yo mama

[copper trellis]

E.g Uzi vs SMG (the Uzi is better for drive bys, but the SMG is better for on foot combat)

[velvet marsh]

GTASA better than gta5

[slim mirage]

You don't have micro transactions in San Andreas huge L honestly

[night heron]

real

[slim mirage]

I do love me some shark cards

[night heron]

shark cards are legal robbery

[manic torrent]

I just use the minigun

[night heron]

if you got on gta online early it was pretty easy to find modders just dropping money for no reason

[manic torrent]

or grenades, or RPG

basically anything that explodes

[night heron]

my characters on 360, xbox one, and pc all have hundreds of millions from that which i never paid for

[slim mirage]

My little brother used to buy shark cards for Xbox honestly hurts as it's like throwing away money

I paid for a money drop on PS3 that was sketchy and probably one of the coolest things at the time

[night heron]

[crude jasper]

i know this one dude, he got paid $8 an hour and was just buying a ton of stuff online
never made sense to me, he spent like $200 at one point on gta

[night heron]

he was probably living at his parents home and didn’t save any of what earned

[crude jasper]

yeah he was like 17 at the time, still i'd never do that because i realized i do not wanna throw away 25 hours of me working at GTA

[slim mirage]

Worst thing I've done is bought vbucks once for a skin in Fortnite that I liked but it was a pretty nice skin 💀

[vapid smelt]

Roblox is a better investment

[versed temple]

Edit: Moving this to a different channel, since it seems to be butting into a conversation.

[night heron]

i have spent $108,660,000 on vehicles in gta 5 online on my PC character

$24m on properties, i figured that would be higher

[crude jasper]

i cheated in $320,000,000 4 years ago and boosted myself to level 120
never goty banned

[slim mirage]

I got banned for teleporting with a mod menu but not for changing my level and money rockstar works in weird ways

[wise plover]

Am i the who thinks the empire and sith were the good guys in the star wars movies

[manic torrent]

yes. they are literal nazis

[stray apex]

but the nazis provided jobs in the death camps

[manic torrent]

star wars is space world war 2 with a classic princess/love/etc drama in it

[stray apex]

if we shut the death camps down, unemployment will rise

[indigo flume]

i got a gf 😎

[vapid smelt]

So does the empire

[stray apex]

exactly
think of the people who lost their jobs when the republic took over

[wise plover]

man how did we get from the empire to nazis

im worried im gonna get kicked or muted

[vapid smelt]

Oh your cousin finally said yes?!

[indigo flume]

pardon

[manic torrent]

where did you "get" her.

[vapid smelt]

@. Mod Chris started a topic on Nazis

[wise plover]

hey hey nah i didnt

[manic torrent]

.... how? HOW? That's literally what they are.

[indigo flume]

retirement home

[near nymph]

Hail 🤚

Purple Sweet Yam

They are the bomb

[vapid smelt]

The empire even did the face the wall executions

[white hearth]

what’s a fast cpu to go with my b350m bazooka? Looking for AMD cpus and fast clock budget 200-400

[vapid smelt]

R9 5950x

[near nymph]

5950x lol

[white hearth]

BETTTT

do y’all recommend getting a new mobo or im fine

Its in good condition so

[near nymph]

ummm... That's a power hungry beast... Get a new mobo lol

[white hearth]

z790?

[near nymph]

https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-b350m-bazooka/cpu

[crude jasper]

from a governmental standard, the empire is far better than the New republic

[white hearth]

I had my eyes on the z790 i heard its godlike

[crude jasper]

anything regarding individual rights its debatable and depends on what sector

[near nymph]

Go on PC part picker and go ham

[white hearth]

Aight

[past egret]

never seen star wars

[vapid smelt]

no ham

[near nymph]

[full fossil]

Pff when will pcpp add ham.

[past egret]

go nuts when

i love <deez nutz>

[full fossil]

nutz

[grand barn]

🥜

[full fossil]

nut

🥜🥜 this is nutz

[shy hound]

sooo, does anyone know if the whole newegg situation with GamersNexus was resolved? i noticed Newegg showing up in sponsor spots on the WAN Show, and thought that was a bit odd

[graceful burrow]

Just because Newegg was having issues with GN doesn't mean lmg has to stop workin with em

[graceful burrow]

I don't even need to tap it to know it's fake

[wispy marsh]

[rare zenith]

I got got

[idle quiver]

GOT IT!

[wispy marsh]

[idle quiver]

are discounts on newegg random?

[vapid smelt]

this server has grabber bots you wouldnt even be able to grab it

[manic torrent]

yes, they aregenerated completely randomly

[idle quiver]

are you fr

like i mean when they happen

[graceful burrow]

Yeah 100% randomly

[idle quiver]

are you actually being serious

[graceful burrow]

Yeah you can find out more about it at Aldonist.com, I did an article on it

[wispy marsh]

Interesting

I don't think the PG750M and DDR4+X670 discounts are randomly generated

[graceful burrow]

The article explains those too

[manic torrent]

facts

[wispy marsh]

Doesn't say anything about the psu or ddr

[graceful burrow]

Because you didn't go to Aldonist.com you just googled my username

[wispy marsh]

[graceful burrow]

My name is just a reference to me going into heart surgery in a few hours

[past egret]

oh it literally just redirects to google

[vapid smelt]

my dad owns google

[past egret]

my dad is god himself wanna talk

yeah im a demigod, what can i say except youre welcome

[graceful burrow]

Can he pay for my heart surgery because nobody around here seems to care that a 25 year old is about to be near million in debt

Because they didn't happen to have health insurance through their shit ass job

Land of the free baybee

[vapid smelt]

who broke your heart?

[graceful burrow]

Whoever it was in my family line who gave me the broken hear gene

[crude jasper]

it is land of the free we just voted in horrible people who dont care about us

the government lines their pockets and big pharmas pockets

all medication costs would drop instantly if we allowed even importation of pharmaceuticals

[near nymph]

Tf have you tried... Going to another country to get the surgery done like... Korea or Taiwan? Cuz it's probably cheaper

[vapid smelt]

go to north korea they have free health care

[graceful burrow]

Buddy I didn't even have the money to travel for this surgery

I had to borrow it from a gracious friend

If I go to another country sure it might only be 50k but I don't have 50k

[vapid smelt]

take the money and run

[near nymph]

Well... Have you tried getting imprissoned? I heard they have to give you health care to stay alive

[graceful burrow]

They charge you for it still

[near nymph]

[graceful burrow]

You have to basically pay rent in prison
You get billed for that

Tf makes you think you get anything free

[near nymph]

Have you tried seeing if you are eligible for another country's citizenship?

[crude jasper]

nothing is free

[vapid smelt]

what will they do if you dont pay send you to prison

[graceful burrow]

YES

[crude jasper]

the only thing that is free is something you can walk up and grab thats available to public use

naturally occurring of course

[graceful burrow]

Apparently if you can prove German ancestry you can just like
Gain citizenship for nothing

So that genuinely might be a long term plan
Unironically

[crude jasper]

i have 30% german and 10+% something dutch

[near nymph]

Yes... And well if you have any European ancestors... And you can prove it... It might be a good idea

[graceful burrow]

My dad's side is obscenely German so

[crude jasper]

is he from argentina

[graceful burrow]

No kek

They fled Germany during ww2 because it was fucked

My great great grams did
Still alive
Hardiest woman I know

[near nymph]

Wait... That means he is probably able to regain German citizenship lol

[crude jasper]

im 4th gen dutch, they fled during ww2 and had to renounce citizenship

[near nymph]

Ayo she might still be a citizen. Beg your great great grams to do you a solid.

Try to get it passed to you.

[graceful burrow]

No all I have to do is send a 23 and me to the embassy or whatever the fuck handles that

[vapid smelt]

wait did you sign a contract with them

[graceful burrow]

Germany is apparel real chill with it

[graceful burrow]

No, I'm just not an asshole he's getting paid back

[near nymph]

Ngl if my friend asks me $10k for a loan deposit to get surgery that's between life and death... Eh...

[vapid smelt]

[near nymph]

And it's a very good friend... Mhmm... I'll consider it

[graceful burrow]

I only asked for 500 for travel expenses

[near nymph]

Oh... I lend my friends $500. Not rly questioning it

[vapid smelt]

what state is it in?

[near nymph]

He paid me back pretty quickly. 😂 It was to get his immigration status stuff handled

[graceful burrow]

Nebraske
I'm in omaha

In a shitty motel

[vapid smelt]

motel with good wifi?

[graceful burrow]

I will say
Lots of really nice restaurants here

[near nymph]

I imagine you'll be eating ramen mixed with some veggies and stuff to save to pay the guy back..

[graceful burrow]

[pure olive]

Currently looking at servers too rich for my blood

[graceful burrow]

Been there

[pure olive]

like $400 but still

[near nymph]

Speaking of which... I need to go call on that debt on my friend that seems to be doing decent now for me $15 back for that emergency money loan.

[pure olive]

I want one for compute

[near nymph]

Haha... I had to explain to the manufacture. That this thing is fucked

[graceful burrow]

Custom Xbox series

[near nymph]

It randomly does shit when it wants to lol

[graceful burrow]

Based free will haver

[near nymph]

Btw I don't think 23andme will get you citizenship lmfao. @graceful burrow

[graceful burrow]

Just gotta prove ancestry

[near nymph]

Yes. But a DNA test won't rly do crap.

[pure olive]

@graceful burrow I assume your pacemaker change didn't kill yo

[graceful burrow]

DNA test shows German ancestry
only need to go back two generations of family tree to prove ancestry
I don't see how that could not do anything
Why you gotta be negative, harsh my vibe

[graceful burrow]

Hasn't happened yet