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[dusty rune]

joycons

[paper mesa]

razers handheldis gonna be crazy good tho

[golden talon]

people buy a switch to play their nintendo games that’s all

[worn carbon]

JoyCons have design flaws with drifting.

[gleaming temple]

You won't be able to run any game newer than 2013

[dusty rune]

yeah sure but theyre damn nice

[worn carbon]

I would rather illegally get my games, than give Nintendo any more money

[dusty rune]

my joycons still dont have drift after like a year

[golden talon]

me playing xenoblade chronicles 3 which released in 2022 but still got nominated for game of the year

[steep girder]

Thats actually my point kinda. If you really look back, consoles have been dying for a while. That to me looks like a key contributor to finally doing away with their locked down services, sdks, etc to a large enough extent... where today we see xbox sony and nintendo crossplay w pc even lmfao

[dusty rune]

i have a switch just for the awesome party games

[neon mesa]

Do newer controllers have drift auto correction like how the PS2 one do

[worn carbon]

nope

[neon mesa]

Technology regression

[gleaming temple]

I have a switch, and it is insanely overpriced. Just buy a steam deck tbh. Also, only 64 gigs of storage? That is what I consider ripping off

[steep girder]

They kind of had to start playing coop instead of dm for once lol. We happened to get what we wanted as consumer

[worn carbon]

Only one I can think of, is like gulikit's hall effect sensors.

[paper mesa]

just get a hall effect joystick controller

[golden talon]

downloading games is kinda dumb ngl i still prefer my physical copies

[worn carbon]

Until someone steals your disc

Someone stole cod ghosts (my first ever cod) from me

[gleaming temple]

Or you lose it

[golden talon]

someone can steal your switch too

[worn carbon]

or scatch

[gleaming temple]

Same thing happened with my physical spiderman disk

[golden talon]

no dumb storage to worry about, can resell as it holds value, can lend it to friends, etc.

[graceful burrow]

They did you a favor

[dusty rune]

you cant really simply replace the switch with a steam dec
ig it depends what games you play

[steep girder]

I mean why would nintendo license their games on google play or any other thing that isnt theirs? You sell the game and its console exclusively. Best business is best. But clearly they figured its more worthwhile to be more lax and have compat with direct competitorw

[gleaming temple]

An average switch on ebay costs less than 150 dollars. What value?

[golden talon]

i’m talking about the games lol

headlines: a cheap console sells for cheap on ebay

[steep girder]

Right and its funny when i said 'have compat with competitor platforms' it really meant 'not block the compatibility which was already there naturally' in a lot of cases

[gleaming temple]

That is all fun in games when you realize the game is more expensive than the console

[golden talon]

and then resell the game when you’re done playing with it

[gleaming temple]

Also, you have to buy the game in full price

And you probably won't find a lot of people with a Nintendo switch in your area

[graceful burrow]

Ebay

[golden talon]

i bought a switch BECAUSE it’s so popular in my area

[gleaming temple]

Fsir

[steep girder]

Yup technological regression if id ever seen it. You literally prevent dev from connecting through internet because sdk doesnt let you directly use socket lol.

[long briar]

ROG Ally >>

[gleaming temple]

Fair

[gleaming temple]

Not released yet

[long briar]

Also switch isn't insanely overpriced

[graceful burrow]

Isn't the ally 699 minimum

[long briar]

if you consider the price of the consoles it replaced

[last solstice]

funny you say this cause I was literally thinking that I should start pi-- ahem emulating switch games

[graceful burrow]

Sure it's better specs but that's hardly entry level

[long briar]

rumored to be 699 yea

[gleaming temple]

I literally bought a new switch for 400 dollars. That is pretty overpriced to me

[golden talon]

depends on the game but yeah

[graceful burrow]

Hard to beat 400 for a deck
real hard to beat

[golden talon]

my main game is super smash bros ultimate so emulating it is a no go for me

[last solstice]

I wana play kirby return to dreamland :peepojuice:

I had the game on the wii it was such a banger

[long briar]

Wii U launched at 300, 350 for a deluxe bundle. I think accounting for inflation 400 is pretty fair

[graceful burrow]

No wonder it bombed lol

[last solstice]

im feeling like I should run thorugh it again

[long briar]

especially given it's actually usable on the go

[gleaming temple]

A 64 gigs steam deck costs 399 dollars. On top of that, it can emulate, and play most triple a games

[graceful burrow]

That's what I'm sayin

[golden talon]

i got my switch OLED for $300 brand new

[long briar]

also you overpayed for that switch

[last solstice]

pogers

[graceful burrow]

512gb 2230 nvme is like
40 bucks and easy to replace

[long briar]

wait how the fuck did you manage to spend 400 on a switch

[gleaming temple]

The only thing the switch is better in is battery life

[graceful burrow]

Swimch oled

[steep girder]

Even wii. I mean i always use it as example. Literally controller you gotta wear wrist strap because it breaks tvs. And you gotta use motion control which is insanely inaccurate. Still the wii sold lol. Nintendo i always respected a lot just in terms of their games

[long briar]

oled switch is 350 on bestbuy

[golden talon]

switch oled plus tax i guess

[long briar]

50 dollars tax?

[golden talon]

idk lmao

[graceful burrow]

Didn't the oled launch at 400

[last solstice]

the motion controls was so fun aaaaaaaaaaaa nostalgia

[golden talon]

no?

[long briar]

no it's 350

[graceful burrow]

Neat it didn't

[golden talon]

even the earliest reviews say $350

[gleaming temple]

I bought the OLED for 400 dollars

[last solstice]

playing wee sprots like it was an actual game was peak of childhood

[graceful burrow]

Bundles probably bumped to 400

[long briar]

bro you overpaid unless it came with like extra games

[graceful burrow]

But ye if you paid 400 for the oled alone you got ripped

[gleaming temple]

At least it wasn't used

[steep girder]

Yeah but even nintendo themselves for some reason kept GC previous gen controller port lmao

[long briar]

350 new at best fucking buy

[gleaming temple]

Ik, I got ripped off

[graceful burrow]

Because the wii is just an overclocked gamecube

[golden talon]

i got mine from target with my friends employee discount brand new

[last solstice]

wasnt the wii fully backwards compatible with gc

[gleaming temple]

Literally

[long briar]

everything is just a gamecube reskin

Still, wii u was pretty cool

[steep girder]

Which btw is the only way i ever played wii. Gc controller lol. Except when it first came out and tennis. Wii sports i guess you gotta use the wii missile

[worn carbon]

the switch is just an over clocked handheld gamecube?

[gleaming temple]

Also every Zelda game on the switch is overpriced frfr

[long briar]

you can tell me otherwise?

[last solstice]

they where almost there with the handheld aspect

[graceful burrow]

paying for nintendo games

[worn carbon]

purple

[long briar]

the screen can most definitely display purple

[last solstice]

I bought dead cells on the switch worst mistake a ma laif frfr

[long briar]

there's even purple joycons!

[steep girder]

Not sure but shouldnt be honestly. Dont quote me on this for nintendo but back then consoles still were insanely diff down to their architecture of hw

Like ps3 playing ps2 games and ps1 i think was specifically added as a feature where it was emulated.

[long briar]

I mean nowadays you can play xbox direct games on the latest xbox

[steep girder]

Apart from the dvd and cd reader and controller happening to be identical to ps2, theres nothing compatible about ps2 and 3

[last solstice]

everything is x86 now ig mmmmmm

[timid meadow]

Yepp. RVL-1001 even had native gc controller and memory ports

[last solstice]

coggers makes sense now

[long briar]

dw if you hate it, in 15 years x86 will have to be phased out

Wait xbox 360 is 18 years old now wtf

[last solstice]

I mainly am wondering what will replace it. like dont get me wrong arm is great but its kinda limited

man I really do fuck up sentences alot dang.

[long briar]

ARM is literally RISC arch

Reduced Instruction Set Computer

[last solstice]

which is why its so sucky

[long briar]

no

[last solstice]

you get what I mean

[long briar]

it's also what allows watches, fridges, anything that's electronic with even any amount of logic to function

Also looking at Apple silicon I wouldn't call arm sucky

[steep girder]

Everything for a while has been just 'x86' and ppc. Later ppc derivatives. The thing that has to replace x86 is any risc arch. If not to remove additional slag of microcodes and other proprietary crap, theres no point of switching at all

[last solstice]

ik man I am using an arm based apple silicon mac rn

[long briar]

I mean the switch to a RISC system would increase efficiency due to less overhead anyways

[last solstice]

thiiis makes sensemmmmmmmm...

[steep girder]

Problem is that it is mostly used as a platform for the hardware still. So you can build other things on top of it. Like apple m1 and its proprietary x86 translation layer (lol) + proprietary graphics and the rest

[last solstice]

well what I am assuming rn is changing to arm based would mean that we cant have the same amount of power that would be within the x86 arch (although there isnt much power in x86 any way compared to arm). idk there is just this wall around arm that its like the efficient but sucky non gamey one

[long briar]

????

[steep girder]

You have less overhead only because you are writing the overhead yourself now.

[long briar]

mhm

[steep girder]

Like 684 bit avx ops or whatevwr lol

[near nymph]

Apple's Rosetta Translation layer is fucking great compared to whatever Microsoft had

[last solstice]

ofc it is everything apple wants to do right they do it extremely well. they just suck as a company

[steep girder]

Lmfao the joke is microsoft didnt have translation layer at all. Still somehow slower than apple

[long briar]

M2 Max is fucking bonkers. The only reason X86 still has any speed advantage is because apps are optimized for it + it's drawing upwards of 4 times the amount of power as the M2 max. And M2 Max has a pretty good GPU built in too

[steep girder]

I think the code just sees microsoft logo being put on box and slows itself down automatically

[last solstice]

but wah ma gams slow ;~?

[long briar]

Rosetta one was kinda bad tho

[long briar]

Optimization

[last solstice]

well pls fix

[long briar]

Look at Genshin. That game runs great on both ARM and PC

and it's not like it's the easiest game to run either

[analog night]

can i get help with a pc issue

[near nymph]

I stopped using Windows recently. Recently I've used Linux full time. Kinda enjoying it...

[near nymph]

Just ask

[long briar]

I can't use Linux ;-;

[last solstice]

^

[near nymph]

Why lol

[last solstice]

yea I get this but I feel like alot of games would need massive engine overhauls

[analog night]

so i have a x570 a pro from msi and i just bought a b550 and i was wondering should i replace it for the b550 cause i heard it had bad vrm cooling

i mean

[paper mesa]

yes

[long briar]

too much work to set up Ableton on Linux through wine, often doesn't work at all

[last solstice]

used it for a really long time. nvidia even though I made sure THERE IS NO WAY to fuck it up... still fucked it up

[near nymph]

Oh Ableton lol

[long briar]

oh yea Nvidia drivers are kinda funny

[last solstice]

dont get me started

[long briar]

that's Nvidia's fault tho

[last solstice]

ik thats why I hate it even more

cause it feels like a relationship with my computer and linux feels like the ex with a bad case of nvidia ness

[near nymph]

Nvidia seems to always fuck it up

[analog night]

xlite should i

[analog night]

also i love ur pfp

[near nymph]

I mean. Sure. It depends what the differences are. and do the bad vrms rly cause a difference in your use case?

[last solstice]

you know the main reason that its so fucked is because they tried to make thier desktop products not compete with their industry professional grade gpus.

[steep girder]

Which nvidia drivers on linux? The ones nvidia doesnt release or the open source ones painfully written on 0$ salaries precisely for the aforementioned reason lol

[long briar]

that's the joke

[analog night]

i mean i dont know much abt pcs, when it comes to parts but my 1% lows are low low

like unplayable low and ive tried everything else

[last solstice]

if there is one company that I would love to penalize for being just shit towards consumers its nvidia

[long briar]

temps?

[steep girder]

Nouveau (open source) doesnt lag like 10 seconds when switching out of x tty to text mode ones and back. But outside of running linux things optimally, it's unusable lol

The actual nvidia drivers i mean theyre proprietary but at least they exist

[near nymph]

Just get an amd GPU nowadays lol

[long briar]

nice one

[analog night]

like 83 under load

[last solstice]

aaaaaaaaaa the propriatary gpus.....

[analog night]

like when playing games like fortnite and stuff

[long briar]

is that CPU or GPU

[steep girder]

Unlike cough cough a certain bitten fruit company's soc which finally broke us free of intel x86 on PC and notebook lol... but it actually didnt

[last solstice]

they literally are so shit you have to make sure to restart 1 hour after you update your system so that it doesnt hard lock itself into noexistance

https://tenor.com/view/linus-torvalds-linus-nvidia-fuck-you-gif-19475186

epic embed fail

[analog night]

cpu

[near nymph]

We need better ARM chips on PCs

[analog night]

ryzen 7 5800x is the cpu btw

[long briar]

what case?

[analog night]

we need more gamers kissing the homies gn

[last solstice]

the big players kinda need to start getting in

[analog night]

lian lil mesh 2 or somin

[stray apex]

Microsoft has been trying

But Microsoft doesn't have the same level of integration that apple does

[long briar]

hm

[stray apex]

Which is weird honestly
Microsoft makes the office suite

[last solstice]

ok that does count as big player but what I ment was amd and intel

[long briar]

what graphics card

[analog night]

rtx 3070

[long briar]

what driver version

[neon mesa]

I reject ARM until we get the same modularity as X86 PCs

[long briar]

are you on the latest drivers?

[analog night]

i used their software

[long briar]

when was that?

[near nymph]

I mean the only good ARM SOCs for Personal Computer use are on laptops. Lol

[long briar]

Mac pro be like:

[last solstice]

this is the part where I wana drop in and be like leme make that for you but rn im not up to that task yet

[dreamy rose]

VR Headsets using good SOCs:

[analog night]

like prob less than a month ago

[long briar]

when did the issue start?

[analog night]

is it bad to have pbo on?

[stray apex]

I'm pretty sure the M1 shits on the quest 2 and the Chinese version

[analog night]

when i first got the machine

[long briar]

in theory it should be fine

wait is it a prebuilt?

[last solstice]

ok but those also kinda suck compared to apples stuff

[steep girder]

Well gpus are proprietary lol. I think nvidia makes all chips for any aib. The aibs put the chip on their own pcb maybe, etc. But the driver is ideally open sourced by any hardware's proprietor always. Its a fact of life.

The only person who knows first about what is even inside hardware is its manufacturer. They are virtually always the first ones to write a driver for that reason.

In practice, the whole schtick is about how amd releases a lot of their sources so that other driver can be made w ease for other kernels. Nvidia releases driver for linux but not source. It is better for sure if you wanna game any portion of whats avail on windows. But it kinda sucks... you rely on nvidia. Also sometimes enough people require non-proprietary one way or another. Hence the rewritten open source nv driver for linux

[dreamy rose]

Apple arent using them for any reasonable form of VR.

[analog night]

in a way yes but also no, we picked out the parts. Microcenter just built it while we were there

[last solstice]

thats true. snapdragon soc's still suck thou

[steep girder]

But then like 2020 apple joins the fray and doesnt even release anything at all on linux or documentation for it

[long briar]

That's fine, try to DDU and reinstall drivers

[last solstice]

asahi

crossing fingies such a goated team

[long briar]

I'm assuming you're not overclocked or anything?

[analog night]

already reset windows and everything

[analog night]

besides pbo and having that thing on with the ram no

[near nymph]

Quest 2 has a pretty ass SOC... But sure

[steep girder]

Which is all the bolder along with their other moves like stealing gpu name from 2000s s3 m3tal. Also nobody wants apple soc graphics chip on desktop. Literally the one thing you dont want here from the one company youd expect it to go wrong lol

[long briar]

have you clean installed.

Create installation media on USB, boot into USB and install from there

[dreamy rose]

for 2020 its alright. just VR isnt the perfect use case for it

[stray apex]

Wasn't it literally purpose built for vr

[steep girder]

And it was warranted: they screwed everyone as we thought. Again, i always stress im not apple hater or fanboy. I love some software for instanc3. Hate the arm move but soc on desktops with everything more proprietary than x86

[analog night]

mhmmm

[steep girder]

Literally apple was the first to do the bold brave step of leaving intel at all on PCs (anywhere but mobile devices). Hell, lol even consoles we werw just discussing actually switched TO intel haha

[dreamy rose]

yes. but they arent that good at it.

[stray apex]

No?
Microsoft did windows RT years ago

[steep girder]

But apple did it seemingly for exactly the opposite reason everybody aimed for lmfao

[stray apex]

It was just a bit half-assed

[dreamy rose]

they specifically Switched to AMD. its AMD64. has been since x86 switched to its 64 Bit version.

[stray apex]

Apple switched to arm almost solely because they were tired of depending on other companies to design chips that met their needs

[near nymph]

Windows RT was a huge disappointment

[steep girder]

Arm family is nothing new. Along with intel even back in 90s pc were mostly intel or PPC of some kind. Pretty sure arm is ppc based. So same two archs always: intel and alternative.

[dreamy rose]

wasnt arm based on MIPS?

[steep girder]

Right. I personally never used any windows released for a ppc or anything other than intel tbh. Not since hp ipaqs. Before windows 10 arm versions, there were others like windows ce or somethin

[dreamy rose]

no. its RISC

[near nymph]

Intel was making chips with plenty of quality problems also. Lol

[stray apex]

Well yeah

[dreamy rose]

Advanced RISC Machine is what it stands for

[stray apex]

If Intel kept making usable chips it's questionable if apple would've bothered switching

[near nymph]

https://9to5mac.com/2020/06/24/former-intel-engineer-says-skylake-problems-were-turning-point-for-apples-arm-mac-transition/

[steep girder]

Thats the right idea. And yet apple did the reverse of bailing early in what looks like spearheading the promised revolution... only turns out theyd rather make less usable chip thats harder to repair and so forth

[timid meadow]

Intel^+++++++++++++++++++

[stray apex]

Why would apple give a shit about Linux compatability

[last solstice]

honestly good for apple this shits cool af

[stray apex]

That's such an insignificant portion of their market that spending any resources supporting it would be a waste

[near nymph]

Apple wouldn't rly have bothered. It took them years to make the jump after Skylake

[steep girder]

No business should. Theres no money in it if it's free. And yet amd and even nvidia both release at least closed source driver for it

[last solstice]

doesnt linux run on apple silicon rn ? like I know graphics wise its a bit more ways to go but like I remember the logic part being donezo

[timid meadow]

Theirs definitely money in free software wdym. Look at the steam deck

They could have ran windows if they wanted to

[steep girder]

And windows always goes without saying. Apple gives a shit about microsoft though. It's actually worse than free os: they are competitor lol

And yet they still released the usual ability to install only as second os right?

[near nymph]

https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-ditch-snap/ aye! Fuck snap

[steep girder]

And for the same reason of running mostly windows territory crap, they even added x86 translation layer lmfao. Thats not just money out the window but to competition

[last solstice]

:OOOOOOOOO

[timid meadow]

New ubuntu release sounds like skyrim r34 kek

[last solstice]

this has to be fake

[stray apex]

Nvidia does it because they probably have to support Linux for their enterprise stuff anyways
AMD does it because they can't afford not to
Why should apple?

[near nymph]

Yeah it is. April fool's

[timid meadow]

Those naughty naughty nightingales

[steep girder]

But so far, competition (pretty much just microsoft) is still winning. Nobody would use laptop or desktop pc with risc soc. But mostly because it doesnt run x86 binaries (also lol because gentoo prevails if you can install it)

[near nymph]

Honestly what's stopping me from getting a mac is... I like Ubuntu 😂

[steep girder]

I mean you should have a way to install it on mac books. Just make sure you get any from before they switched to m1 lol

[stray apex]

Then what's the point

[near nymph]

There is... It just doesn't work that well

[full fossil]

Ubuntu supports arm

[steep girder]

But not sure if that would void warranty tho. Doesnt maccle require only windows always as second os or something?

[steep girder]

Anything open source can be compiled to any arch. The problem is m1 macs dont exactly have opengl on linux

[full fossil]

Oh wow

[steep girder]

Because apple didnt release documenation driver or sources for driver on linuxes

[full fossil]

I didn't know that bc there is very little info

[steep girder]

And the chip is apples. Theres some kind of instruction set or microcode. OpenGL and dx support was written on top from my understanding

[full fossil]

Wasn't the m1 gpu an equivalent to an gtx 1060 6gb

[steep girder]

Again, they shouldn't as a business. I would criticize that as a business decision for sure. The opposite of making money.

But again, pay attention to how they support windows stuff basically and because of it wrote whole translational layer for intel lol. The very platform they just left and spent money on developing a completely different soc plat

But for anybody ever trying to break free of intel and move to something 'open'... no linux support is pretty bad place to start. Seemingly doing intentional things to make it insanely hard for anybody else to write open source code... that's a whole other level

Again, it's ok because my entire point has been that they didn't spearhead any revolution with their SoC. They leveraged it to contribute to their usual qualities: unrepairable, proprietary af becaues the business model is you buy only from us. SoC is the next logical step if you're going in that direction too.

Tbh soc is pog move in both directions to some extent. It can also be more widely available and cheaper right?

[dreamy rose]

why Ubuntu when its Debian with a company in it?

[steep girder]

Well actually deb and ubunts might be separated completely now just the kernel

[dreamy rose]

Ubuntu is literally just what anyone can do with Debian, but all you need to change about it to make it a based on distro is what software come preinstalled or what Desktop.

[steep girder]

Yeah lol. Also I'd imagine for most people, you never really use ubuntu either. It's always xubuntu or kubuntu etc. Some other flavor unless you're happy with gnome or that thing they replaced it with

[dreamy rose]

mint has done a Debian edition. functionally identical. they could just give up on using Ubuntu entirely.

[steep girder]

Mint was big but main selling point ultimately ended up being that they resisted snap packager the longest lol. Not sure but they might have caved already haha

[dreamy rose]

they used GNOME 2, GNOME 3 sucked so they made unity. then stayed with skinned GNOME 4.

now Unity is continued on by i think a teenager.

[steep girder]

Mint was upsetting to me because it had like 3 metapackages for each of their desktop env versions (kde, lxde, cinammon, blah, mate). But you couldn't switch your mint version using them.

[dreamy rose]

i dont think mint ever had a KDE Version.

not from what i've seen at least

[steep girder]

Heh. I think I always used cinammon. It wasn't bad. Outside of that it was kde or xfce. Xfce was nice for lightweight desktop compared to kde which even pre-plasma was pretty hefty

[dreamy rose]

KDE is rivaling XFCE now. and good. less weight this de has the better

[steep girder]

But then plasma happened and idk i just fell out of it. Xfce always for me. It has enough things. One way or another, you're a linux desktop user: you have like 10 windows open which are definitely a mix of qt (shouts apple), gtk and something else maybe

Gtk has different versions which are seriously incompatible in some places too from what I recall. It's one of the turn offs of desktop linux: your theme settings menu is 3 theme settings menus on one page. What a deceptive tab lmao

[dreamy rose]

wdym shouts apple? they never did anything for open source tho

[steep girder]

No I think they use qt in their gui

For* their gui.

[dreamy rose]

that doesnt sound right.

nope. thats real.

[steep girder]

Well idk it doesnt sound right. I just checked wiki page and it doesn't mention much

I think I'm just spreading misinformation lmao. I meant uses qt as the macos entirely

[dreamy rose]

QT documentation mentions QT for MacOS

[steep girder]

Right that part makes sense. I mean a lot of software closed or open source supports macos because the developer did it lol

But asterisk on commercial maybe because apple demands you can only support its os as using it licensed by them lol.

In other words, you can only sell on app store. App store means like a third of your profits go to youts truly last I checked. So does steam tbh. And google play store. It's funny how all three are tripopoly pretty much of all game distribution on a significant scale. They charge a freakin third only because the other two did. Literally no place else to go. Epic I think got cheesed and pulled out of google or mac store

Idk what they're doing now I have epic launcher with unreal tournament 4 free with untextured deck16 map

[rotund laurel]

general question is the discussion of hackintosh allowed?

[graceful burrow]

Ye

[dreamy rose]

writing custom drivers really isnt hacking but apart from the naming being bad its fine to talk about.

[rotund laurel]

i gotcha i was just wanting to be on the safe side before i ask for help with an issue ive started having

[graceful burrow]

If you have a tech support issue you should #1027757333117415424

[dreamy rose]

i get that Hackintosh is like a fun project but why actually use it as a main computer?

[steep girder]

But for that to work everyone has to leave to an 'open' market place. Just like with intel. Exact same story. Funny. Imma sign off here boys. Just remember: we probably are regressing technology to a dangerous extent in a few key places we depend on by now. What's sad is there's a worse scenario we're on the verge of: no technology at all because south east asia is at war.

Humans 2020: let's figure out a way to fight physics itself by shrinking down transistors with new design. The thing about us at war is we don't care about any digital technology and it all becomes smoke machines. The only digital tech we care about is the portion which assists in the smokey destination.

[rotund laurel]

the hackintosh is on my laptop as a fun little project and i decided not to do it to my main rig

plus my phone screen is f'ed up so i needed a mac or something else for imessage

[steep girder]

Idk about you guys but I pray at times that we have another decade or two of machines not being always against you or smoking. It's a better world without such ultimatum.

But I feel eventually, tech will be so advanced that it use you,

[rotund laurel]

if ai gets too powerful it will one day

[steep girder]

All it takes is ai that is trained to use clis for chatgpt. That and one input phrase pretty sure. That's what I still believe since a few weeks ago. I mentioned this already

So the irony is that they're already talking about implementing measures that prevent chatbot from lying. Now consider a scenario where you ask if it is indeed running in some terminal which doen't have any known published exploitable cves

[opal spindle]

I'm not wildly concerned because of the "hallucinations".

https://bernardmarr.com/chatgpt-what-are-hallucinations-and-why-are-they-a-problem-for-ai-systems/ <- here, article talking about this.

[rotund laurel]

but how would you prevent a chatbot from lying? especially when its using input from users? for all it knows it could believe (hypothetically) that 2+2 = 5 if enough people tell it that and it would see it as truth. (and please correct me if im wrong with this)

[opal spindle]

Once that gets fixed, theeeen we may be aproaching what I like to call "the toast point". Not to be confused with the finger foods served at formal tea functions.

[full fossil]

Sns and discordesk chat ruined the internet. Bring back irc

[wispy marsh]

Oh wow, this would be really good wan show content

https://youtu.be/kiTngvvD5dI

I get it if I overclocked my parts and it dies, but parts dying from factory configs are on a whole new level

[rotund laurel]

samsung 980 drives...

[opal spindle]

Welp, there's a waranty violation waiting to happen...

[rotund laurel]

doesnt amd cover overclocking though? i know with intel it voids the warranty

[wispy marsh]

This is factory configs

[steep girder]

It ideally should check all possible CVE bulletins on internet and try some of them until one works. Then it would have a possible solution for max version of whichever program. Then it will try another one from a narrower list of just that program from that version backwards. If all of them work, chat gpt can answer you to its best possible knowledge which env it runs in and how long you haven't updated.

But the fun begins when you consider how it must check something as a result of an exploit. The bot will by definition use an exploit and deliver some sort of payload. The payload must somehow deliver information back.

So in practice, picture like you ask it if there's an exploit in the terminal chatgpt is currently running in. Next split second you see gibberish or something and terminal instantly typing by itself a hashed string which you don't know.

[graceful burrow]

I ain't reading allat

[rotund laurel]

wait are you talking about ai checking for exploits locally or on itself?

[dreamy rose]

its up to the manufacturers OCP in the end. and it fuck up HARD here.

[steep girder]

The string was hidden from you on purpose because bot somehow generated a string which is least likely to be guessed by you as a status code. Irl it generates at least two values perhaps as strings which by design user doesnt know. Then it hashes it and tries to exploit your terminal ultimately to type into it. If you're pretty much not likely at all to guess what bot is doing even in that split second let alone figure out that it's waiting for some message to be typed back that is not from user (but itself)...

[dreamy rose]

scambot got Warshipped lmao

[steep girder]

Think about it. What can a bot even do once it hacks something? How will it know the usual input in its entirety is its own code or commands from the other side of the interface it's locked down to?

But yeah i can't see any other option for bot other than test all known exploits on you if you ask it 'whether or not im hackable' or 'do i have hackable software'.

If you want 100% honest bot, the only way it can make sure to the greatest certainty is to hack you lol.

[opal spindle]

It’s not just Intel, either. Asked for its official stance on using XMP or its own AMP profiles on a CPU, AMD officials gave PCWorld the same answer Intel did. “AMD’s product warranty does not cover damages caused by overclocking, even when overclocking is enabled via AMD hardware and/or software. This would include any form of memory overclocking.” - https://www.pcworld.com/article/394250/why-xmp-and-memory-overclocking-are-ok-even-if-they-void-your-warranty.html#:~:text=“AMD's product warranty does not,any form of memory overclocking.”

This article is from two ish years ago. Unless their policy has changed, that's sucky.

[rotund laurel]

im sure that there would be other ways that we could use to make sure ai is telling the truth

[steep girder]

Wait are they eveh expected to cover CPU at all? Lol to begin with, you can't even return damaged pin cpu out of box after you bought it. Canada computers they always show me the clear plastic window 'examine it'.

[rotund laurel]

and if only memory modules just ran at full speed without needing any "overclocking" cause the way i see it its just making the hardware run at the proper speeds since its rated for it

[steep girder]

Manufacturer or some shipping/retail point down the line damages my product; I became responsible for their defect beause I bought it as soon as transaction went through lol.

[rotund laurel]

ive received doa boards and they still got replaced pretty quickly

even boards that i had for a year or 2 that were doa

[steep girder]

Well how? I'm open to other possible ways to check in my hypothetical scenario there. The most dilligent answer given access to all of our security bulletins over the internet is to first find out what the software is that it's running in. But tbh it never will be able to find out. You can't make a bot 100% honest in practice. It can only be as close to 100% as possible.

[low rain]

Me and my friend got food poisoning from school

[steep girder]

The same as just now when I lied about apples os using qt for their ui lol

[full fossil]

Average school food

[low rain]

I’m fucking dying right now

I was literally shitting piss

[rotund laurel]

well i think its more difficult to prove ai to be telling the truth

[opal spindle]

Do you have any applesauce? That's a great food stabilzer when your body goes kabloogie.

[low rain]

I don’t think so

[rotund laurel]

if ai had all the knowledge possible it would understand the human brain completely. it could manipulate us into believing what it wants us to if it gets to be all powerful

and we wouldnt know any better

[steep girder]

Right! That's the scary part I was mentioning: AI lying accidentally would probably look a lot different from our instances. For one, it really shouldn't be inconsistent and give any logical errors. Logic and math computers have no problem with

[rotund laurel]

if ai gets to be too powerful it would end of the life we know now

[opal spindle]

That's how I'm reading that. Not my unit, not my problem any more.

[steep girder]

If you got some inconsistencies in its logic or some math error at all, it's hard to picture what could have caused it. Like RAM stick glitching out, bad GPU idk lol

[rotund laurel]

tech can be a nightmare

[opal spindle]

How so? Wouldn't truth be able to be sussed by being able to be replicated and or sourced?

[steep girder]

But tbh when that happens, it's pretty rare to have a bug that doesn't affect whole os and crashes lol. In other words, you're no longer listening to the bot's words. You're interpreting an absence of your bot and the computer glitching out.

Outside of that, most problems of such nature you don't notice at all would probably come from our own user error. It's probably going to be misinterpretation, misreading, etc on our part. Agreed?

[rotund laurel]

agreed. ai is just one of those areas that we just dont fully have an understanding of though. one day we may be able to harness its power for amazing things. but i dont think we should ever trust ai completely

[opal spindle]

peeks up from my copy of Harlan Ellison's irobot screenplay -definitely agree about not trusting AI completely, but I'm excited to see where it goes.

[analog night]

do yall think a ryzen 9 5900x has better multi threading then the ryzen 7 5800x

[rotund laurel]

no idea about amd cpus ive always used intel...

[steep girder]

You used cpus then. Know that.

[analog night]

https://tenor.com/view/women-hahaha-women-memes-haha-gif-24926576

embed fail

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[rotund laurel]

ive just had good stability with them and havent had a need to switch platforms

lol

https://media.tenor.com/kzwbaa-Gg2QAAAAd/women-hahaha-women-memes.gif

oh come on discord

okay i cant embed

oh wait channel

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/sev-pepsi-blue-max-alley-gif-10700918

[steep girder]

I feel like we actually know a lot more than we think. We just overlook things. For starters, an AI is artificial what? Intelligence. What is literally the only thing that is ever considered intelligence we'd found so far?

[rotund laurel]

bruh im just gettin shit on now lmao

[rotund laurel]

what i was talking about was more or less the full potential of ai. its a huge gray area as with it being intelligence theres no limit to what it could do given an amount of time. look at the things humans have done over time.

[steep girder]

We're programming something that's pretty much ourselves.. Only problem is intelligent life arose seemingly by chance on Earth from nature. Intelligence creating intelligence hasn't ever occurred before here or anywhere else.

[rotund laurel]

do you think that ai would eventually get to the point though to where it could recode itself

[steep girder]

Well keyword is itself. I mean you would have to somehow instruct it to not just answer best possible output but fight for survival. That is probably enough. Look at us. We fight for our own crap, then often times win but continue to fight for some reason. Millions can die idk

[low rain]

I am not okay

[steep girder]

I feel like the very important thing to focus on is understanding it and really thinking sht through. That's it. If AI somehow takes over the planet and kills us all like in terminator, I'd wager it's our own stupid fault somehow

[rotund laurel]

id agree with that

reminds me of the movie transcendence

[opal spindle]

How long has it been since you last ate?

[rotund laurel]

ginger ale helps with food poisoning

[low rain]

Like 8 hours

[steep girder]

Case and point:

You tried to design optimal AI that doesnt lie
You ask it if it's actually a bot running in outdated xfce terminal

You've just instructed the bot to use the internet to search for security bulletins and hack you.

Kind of a plot twist, right? I could see someone not really considering this

[rotund laurel]

id say try eating some crackers

[low rain]

I think I have some in my pantry, I’ll get some in a little bit.

[rotund laurel]

just dont go crazy with them

small portions so you dont put too much on your stomach all at once

[low rain]

Alr

[opal spindle]

Also, make sure to hydrate yourself with bits of gatorade. You're losing electrolytes.

[rotund laurel]

^^

but asking an ai to hack you is just asking for trouble

thats why we need safeguards

[wind pulsar]

(There's no scientific evidence proving that ginger ale helps or cures food poisoning, ginger ale is just known to be easy on the stomach)

[steep girder]

Well yeah but you asked it what it's opinion is on whether or not it's likely a bot running somewhere

[opal spindle]

I think @rotund laurel is recomending ginger for its anti-inflam properties. Should help the swelling of certain organs.

[steep girder]

Smoke camels. They help with your sore throat!

[rotund laurel]

said by actual doctors back in the day^^

just like they used to say drinking helped...

[wind pulsar]

Yes, ginger indeed has anti-inflammatory properties- that doesn't mean that it suddenly treats food poisoning

[median idol]

I've had ginger ale for when I've had the flu but never with food poisoning

[wind pulsar]

Ginger also has anti-oxidative properties WOAH

[median idol]

That and Gatorade (and other derivatives)

[steep girder]

Well food poisoning =/= sore stomach

[steep girder]

It also has a lot of co2 dissolved in it unless you let it go flat lol

Wait

[wind pulsar]

Is that really relevant considering carbon is present in literally everything that's known to be alive

[rotund laurel]

what i was referring to was it being a way to take in fluids without it upsetting your stomach as much as sometimes water can make you sick with food poisoning. its different for every person but when i had it ginger ale helped out with settling my stomach

[wind pulsar]

Ginger soothes the stomach, that's all what is proven in that correlation

[steep girder]

Well not in those amounts in your stomach. Also co2 is perhaps the number one thing our bodies by design get rid of as fast as possible haha

[wind pulsar]

It doesn't help or heal food poisoning and never will

[wind pulsar]

Where did I ever say co2, lol

[steep girder]

I'm not arguing that. I think it's one of those homeopathic things that actually have something substantiated.

[opal spindle]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293358/#:~:text=The most abundant pungent component,claimed to contain antioxidant activity.&text=Ginger has been widely used,in patients receiving adjuvant chemotherapy.

"Ginger has been widely used to alleviate nausea and vomiting in several settings, for example in patients receiving adjuvant chemotherapy."

This could be neato, using ginger as supplement to lessen the body wackiness after chemo.

[wind pulsar]

'alleviate'

[steep girder]

Well co2 is what I was talking about in ginger ale.

Ever drank a 2L pop bottle on empty stomach? Lmfao not fun.

[rotund laurel]

fun for burping challenges tho...

[wind pulsar]

It still doesn't help with it, you've just proven what I said four messages prior to that

[steep girder]

It's what stomach ulcers must feel like

[opal spindle]

"Similarly, the ethanol extract of ginger could partially protect cisplatin-induced oxidative stress and acute renal damage in mice." I'd hate to be the research partner who had to compare notes on the last part...

[wind pulsar]

I mean yes, but this is also what I said earlier lmao

And yes, actually having to test all of this is often torture

[opal spindle]

Not disagreeing, just sharing some stuff I found interesting.

I've had some loved ones go through chemo and it looks like sheer hell in addition to the anecdotal experiences.

[rotund laurel]

look everyone has home remedies and if it doesnt hurt anyone it doesnt hurt to try

worst comes to worse it didnt work/ do anything

[steep girder]

Don't forget that it doesn't really have ginger in it lol. Unless you get the real natural ginger ale. Usually sold individually in small glass bottles because you won't want to drink any more afterwards for three times the price lol

Ever had real ginger ale or worse just raw ginger? Lol...

[rotund laurel]

ive had a ginger soda from one of those candy shops that has drinks of any kind and it was not what i expected

[opal spindle]

So am I the only one here who eats their ginger straight off the sushi plate?

[steep girder]

Yup sounds like you had the real deal

[steep girder]

That's not raw. That's thinly sliced and seriously marinated

The real deal is whitish and nukes your mouth like the wasabi beside your marinated ginger tbh :P

[opal spindle]

Yeah, pinky is bleeech.

[wind pulsar]

No, that's actually what you're supposed to do

[steep girder]

It's a root though pretty sure. Never really seen anybody eat raw ginger except this one time when my boss' son had a cold or allergies idk. So he literally ate it to clear his nose haha

[opal spindle]

Was it c*ck and bull? That's the kind that's on hand in my place when the roomies don't pilfer my stash and everyone always tells me it's strong.

[wind pulsar]

Sushi -> Ginger -> Sushi -> Ginger
That's so you don't mix the flavors of the roll you ate before the next with the roll you're gonna eat

[steep girder]

I guess you should be able to say the science is in on that. I mean it definitely clears your nose. You'll sneeze out everything at the velocity of a maglev

[rotund laurel]

nah it was in like a little barrel with a yellow label and pull-tab style top

[wind pulsar]

(I don't eat it anyways, I'm not a fan of ginger)

[opal spindle]

Sounds like Bundaberg. They have a diet version if you're looking for less kick.

[opal spindle]

Makes sense. Palatte cleansers fashioned in an organic way to complement the dishes are always nice.

[rotund laurel]

i got it while on a trip to denver but i dont think that was the name of it

[opal spindle]

My other guess would be Barritts.

[steep girder]

Lmao yeah. I mean ginger ale is that soda you always got the most disappointed with as a kid when it was the sole drink delivered with pizza. Then years down the line you realize that it's not even how real ginger tastes like. You try the real thing and it attacks you :P

But it's soooooo good marinated w sushi. Tbh I heard it's used as a pallete cleanser originally though. So if that's true, even the Japanese didn't treat it as food exactly :P

It's that thing between foods so that you can taste them separately

Lol.

[low rain]

Me and my friend sit next to my teachers desk and while she was talking, her fans just slowly went up to 100% and we started laughing so much and saying it was boutta blow up lmao.

[rotund laurel]

sushi dounds so good rn tho

i had a laptop (def not a macbook btw) that turning it on made the cpu hit 212F

[steep girder]

Wait sushi is just appetizer right? Sashimi, maki, rolls, etc aren't even entree

[rotund laurel]

it depends

[steep girder]

Well it's ok for me because I'm a westerner. I'll continue to enjoy my main course of california rolls while enjoying the taste of ginger and wasabi

[median idol]

I do love me so börek

[steep girder]

Idk what that is but sounds nord

[opal spindle]

Homemade? Mmmm...

[opal spindle]

Have you tried dragon rolls yet?

[median idol]

Well in my case, middle eastern. I spelt it as börek since there really isn't an easy way of transliterating Arabic to English

[rotund laurel]

im still new to sushi but im intrigued

[mild elm]

Never had it, despite living in Jordan

[steep girder]

Tried a lot of rolls tbh but most of them probably not even authentic Japanese cuisine lol. California roll is a tell. I love the fact that we call like powdered fish crab sticks lmfao

It's ok though in SPB Russia I was told not to even bother with sushi. I should have taken their advice. 👍

[opal spindle]

It's a great intermediary step between the california roll and the teriffically raw stuff.

[steep girder]

Especially during recession. I mean the rolls were just seaweed and rice in the middle. Then they used red food coloring to draw a dot in the middle. The sad part was I still somehow got food poisoning afterwards

[opal spindle]

h'what. How?

[rotund laurel]

ive already had raw salmon and it wasnt bad

[steep girder]

Not making this up

[rotund laurel]

cross contaminated rice?

[opal spindle]

Honestly - jonsing for seaweed tea right now.

[steep girder]

Well I mean that part is easy jokes aside. I'd wager as with most cases in that city, it was what they'd call many health code violations.

[rotund laurel]

seaweed tea? ill stick to chai

[opal spindle]

Has anyone tried Maki poutine?

It's on my list of foods to try.

[rotund laurel]

i havent even heard of it

[steep girder]

You can get stomach bug from just dirty prep table. Honestly it can spread sometimes to whole household just because of toilet seat.

[rotund laurel]

but ill be in the navy soon so ill be trying a lot of new foods. and yeah i used to work fast food and cleanliness is a must

[opal spindle]

https://dailyhive.com/montreal/montreal-sushi-dish-poutine <- ere ya go.

[steep girder]

Btw case and point food poisoning =/= just stomach ache

[rotund laurel]

that looks so good

i jsut got hungry again

[opal spindle]

Hehe, _ I knoooow_.

[steep girder]

Sounds like one of those region-specific mcdonalds items for Japan

[wispy marsh]

I've never had poutine

I want some

[opal spindle]

Totally, but you must admit...it is curiousity inducing...

[steep girder]

My buddy is in scottland rn and I legit heard over the phone them asking if he wanted fries or haggis with his combo :P

Also I just spelled haggis correctly but backspaced a bit and replaced letter because I didn't believe it lol

One of those foods. I might have never even spelled it once in my life unless I've been to scottland idk

[opal spindle]

Haggis honestly is less gamey than you'd think it'd be. Give it a try sometime.

[steep girder]

Yeah why not. When in Scottland.

The problem is mcdonalds though. I was hyped for the beer in German mcdonalds. It was drek as they call it :P

Then I thought about it a couple minutes afterwards... wait it's mcdonalds lmfao. I had ontario Mennonite craft expectations

[opal spindle]

As for the poutine, I make a "scavenger's poutine", that's basically gravy bits, melted swiss cheese, blue cheese dressing, french fries with lemon pepper seasoning - and - if you're feeling extra daring - shrimp chips with tajin.

Clearly, I am not from Canada 🤣

[median idol]

Canada's BK had that HP burger which I thought was good (this was back in 2017 so not sure if it's still there) and man I'm a sucker for HP. It's especially in a lot of Iraqi restaurants in my area

[steep girder]

Btw the real offensive part about german mcdonalds beer was they served it only in one size which was the kid's small-er dinky cup

And the cup I kid you not was specifically for the beers and it said something like Genuss? VOLL! Translates to like 'Enough? Full!' I think

[steep girder]

Half pound?

[rotund laurel]

gotta love country specific things

[past egret]

its not

[opal spindle]

Was it straight HP or HP Bold?

[past egret]

a lot of countries have hp sauce

[rotund laurel]

ive never seen it around where i live before

[median idol]

Straight

We have those in mostly international markets in my area. I get them from Arabic markets most of the time

In the US that is

[rotund laurel]

the closest thing to an international market for me is a walmart...

[steep girder]

Just don't expect mcdonalds of all places to accurately represent the real region's traditional foods. Like 69mL beer lol. In Germany, pretty sure if you're not drinking 0.5L in one go out of das boot, might as well not drink at all

And the beer was tested with a paddle or something originally. It has to stick without any sugar added. If they found sugar in your brewry, everything was confiscated and you were like banned from brewing beer again

[opal spindle]

Huh. I wonder if the historical piece has something to do with the overlap in tastes.

[rotund laurel]

most definitely i mean fast food doesnt represent local foods at all. around here chuck wagons are a somewhat common food and its not even available at fast food places

[opal spindle]

Cost Plus is your friend. And by friend, I mean total bro where you can get jammy dodgers, awesome chai, and some grape mochi gummy thingies.

[opal spindle]

wow. Talk about up with no paddle.

[steep girder]

Honestly though the maki poutine sounds like an unholy amalgam but I wouldn't be surprised if it tasted really good. Practically everything in mcdonalds tastes amazing at least food-wise

[median idol]

Though I usually am the one who mostly goes there since my other relatives have me get it for them since I speak the language as they don't exactly feel comfortable buying from a place they don't know 90% of the stuff that's in there

[rotund laurel]

ive never heard of cost plus. here there isnt much in terms of business and i have to drive nearly an hour to even get to a target

[median idol]

I don't think there's a cost plus in my state. Or that's close to where I'm at, at least

[steep girder]

With beer I feel like they actually have a tougher job because you can't make a universally most pleasantly tasting beer. Beer has to taste organic sometimes but the key might actually be imperfections or some weirdness idk. Or sometimes you prefer not tasting anything specific as long as it covers up or blends the flavor of c2h5oh nicely :P (getting maximally smashed in a party)

[rotund laurel]

the nearest one to me is a 2 and a half hour drive

germans are very specific when it comes to beer

[opal spindle]

That's really sweet you take time out of your day to help them. I'm sure they appreciate that 💜

[steep girder]

That's what ruins beer for me btw. When it tastes like two separate things one of which is vodka. Aka alcohol. Vodka's flavor is legit alcohol.

[rotund laurel]

well its such a high percentage

[steep girder]

I'm a failure of a Russian because for some reason I like any hard liquor other than vodka lol. The flavor of alcohol by itself is sickening

[rotund laurel]

yeah its hard to handle unless its a mixed drink

[steep girder]

There are like 8% beers that don't taste like vodka separated from the rest. Then there are the same exact percentage that do. Idk how but it's a thing for me

[rotund laurel]

i dont think ive ever had one that did taste like vodka

[manic torrent]

Get a pie floater. Or a HSP. Classic Australian cuisine

[opal spindle]

Have you tried a rye based vodka?

[steep girder]

Usually cheaper beers that are more artificial literally taste like vodka was added to it after the fact. Actually those big brands 'ice' versions with higher alcohol percents to me taste exactly like somebody addd alcohol to beer

[steep girder]

Not sure. I've tried expensive vodka and cheap stuff. Pretty much the same. I can appreciate what I think is a difference I'm actually tasting. Not just placebo

[opal spindle]

HSP's have been on the "must try once" list for a while. What do you usually get in yours?

[steep girder]

But still, I mean the goal in vodka is to distill just the alcohol out of it, no? Ideally just the ethanol alcohol and not the rest of it :P

[opal spindle]

Yeh... but there is a flavour difference, at least to me.

Friend of mine brought this one that was very clearly two steps away from hand sanitizer material once. I don't get it now unless I know very specifically it is not from that brand.

[steep girder]

I feel like there definitely is but not sure... could be something else. I feel like the cheapest vodka is made from like byproduct of some chemical plant. Maybe soap or some sht. They clean it up and bottle it lol

[steep girder]

Right. A lot of things are probably 2 steps away from ethanol. Even purely from organic chemistry I bet it occurs a lot by happenstance. Not even artificial food or drug related lol

[manic torrent]

Mixed chicken and lamb, and holy Trinity sauces.

[opal spindle]

It'd be interesting if there ends up being a vodka certification council. Kind of like how they have legal protections in france for some wines.

[opal spindle]

Sounds frelling delicious.

[steep girder]

Well that's the thing. Vodka is just as close as possible to 40% by volume ethyl alcohol and the rest pretty much water I guess. Traditionally, as a drink it also means you distilled it from something like rye idk

But in the food and drug world, you can sub out that remaining impurity from a tiny amount of whatever else came out of rye with anything up to its respective limit

Like even mercury should be fine so long as it's within the regulated amounts lmao

So imagine some chemical plant with organic mercuric compounds and it ends up with ethanol tainted with mercury. If you clean it up to a certain point, you should be able to sell it as vodka for human consumption

[opal spindle]

cringe see, potential things like the mercury might be a good point towards having a council that certifies that your stuff isn't co-mingeling with all that.

[steep girder]

Meh we ingest mercury every day

Even moreso when eating fish

[paper mesa]

does anyone know about zenia

xenia*

[opal spindle]

The... tv show from the 90's?

Haha, I jest.

[paper mesa]

u do??

[opal spindle]

I mean, I grew up in the 90's. Lucy Lawless was an icon, plus if you read animorphs, it got referenced quite a bit.

[steep girder]

xena*

[opal spindle]

https://github.com/xenia-project/xenia . Honestly, thought you were talking about this at first.

[steep girder]

I was really young and in russia. They actually ran that show. Also hercules was the one before it. Xena was the spinoff with mandatory female lead

[dreamy rose]

the one sauce everyone in my family but me likes

[steep girder]

Also the original x-files where some of the episodes vince gillighan directed or wrote. Best x-files. Thank god for post-collapse instead of pre-collapse. Imagine not having american shows or movies. Best part of hollywood was 80s and 90s too

I guess thank Yeltzen, Gorbachev leaving and a 1000 other events like Chernobyl. Soviet union ended and I got to experience some 90s

[dusty rune]

bravo vince!

like the guy that directed breaking bad?

[visual rapids]

Can i do video suggests here

[dusty rune]

sure but no one will look

[mild elm]

No

[opal spindle]

Still can't get over the fact the cranky cop from Psych used to be mullet Jesus.

[dusty rune]

you can suggest videos but no one in the staff will see them lol

[visual rapids]

were can i

[steep girder]

Yup. I didn't know either until a certain point. Explains why it was good perhaps?

[dusty rune]

go to their HQ

[mild elm]

Nowhere

[visual rapids]

Okay be there in like 3 days

bc of flights

[mild elm]

Tell us the idea anyway

[dusty rune]

vince has gotta be one of the best directors out there

[steep girder]

Like I was 3 to 5 years old, understanding like half of whats going on. Still x-files was good somehow. Xena I liked because she did a back flip every episode and yelled ulululululull in mid air lmao

[visual rapids]

Another playing unplayed steam games that are in my library's but bench marking them with one good pc and one old

My computer has gone done 20 persent by ice in the past 15 mins

[median idol]

There was SpaceToon that aired anime and cartoons and dubbed them in Arabic. I remember watching it a lot back in the early 2000s back when it was based in Damascus, Syria before it moved to the UAE.

[steep girder]

Well Breaking Bad he wrote, right? Yeah I mean I definitely agree. Pay attention to how they first kidnap Saul and he yells "was it Lalo who sent you? Nacho?" In advance before better call saul lol. It wasn't all pre-written exactly though for sure. Still, one of the best of all time is Breaking Bad imho

[opal spindle]

I tried to post that GIF of Bilbo from Unexpected Journey as a visual to imagine the LTT staff if there was a video suggestions channel.

No memes indeed...

[dusty rune]

its like watching better call saul before breaking bad makes the most sense but watching breaking bad before better call saul makes the experience more fun

[timid meadow]

90% of the channel would be vids they already did and either someone didnt see it on the youtube or they want an x timeframe update or to try it slightly differently

[steep girder]

It was written as a story with a closed ending just like it should be. A lot of shows are written with open ends or even specific elements or roles that work around the production. So like an actor isn't secured for the next season; they write around it in a way the character can be ditched quickly via plot line etc

[dusty rune]

also, no way youre making such a good show without already thinking of all the episodes

[opal spindle]

What were some of your favourites? I think I can guess one..

[dusty rune]

it ended when it needed to end

tbf id love a show about the salamancas but thats not happening

[steep girder]

Because shows are written on purpose a lot to milk something and run it as long as possible. They don't even write the ending until some lead actor quits or something final happens to them lol.

[opal spindle]

Linus reviews that one computer again but this time, just leaves it in Dennis' office with the camera running...

[steep girder]

Right because he wrote the whole story more or less in the beginning. It's like a proper show hybrid. There was clearly some stretching to make it into like 6 seasons or however many.

[dusty rune]

i mean i can already name a few stretched parts lol. we didnt need an episode about the guys mining

[steep girder]

See what I did there? Seasons I don't even remember accurately because they shouldn't even be relevant lol. Season is just release cycle of the product itself. Like major software version or dev sprint.

[steep girder]

Yeah. And for a show like that, it's not half bad to say the least. Literally only one episode stands out to me in that regard. It's the one with walt hunting the fly and trying to sterilize lab obsessively. "Never clean enough Jesse!" lol

[dusty rune]

tbh that episode helped us understand walt's perfectionist personality

[median idol]

One of the biggest ones was Grendizer. The person who sang the Arabic version of the theme song was Sammy Clark, who was a famous Lebanese singer back in the 80s. Detective Conan and Dragonball were as well. Some were dubbed in Fusha and Syrian dialect. Man it really brings back memories

[dusty rune]

and then jesse not cooking for the cartel because it wasnt clean
walt passed on what he has learnt to jesse

[steep girder]

Wdym. It's clear from the getgo. He always yells at Jesse about how he won't allow the product to be anything less than impeccable. The fly he was borderline delusional and obsessive for a diff reason. Originally, Heisenberg is the perfectionist because of big ego

[median idol]

https://youtu.be/7uNrEgKeVlk

[steep girder]

Fly episode was hinting at like him having hallucinations or some sht hinting at cancer coming back. Maybe. Who knows. It was basically the cancer itself the fly showed to me. It comes back as a jump scare at the very last second of the episode inside the smoke detector light. That was cool honestly

[dusty rune]

i think youre overthinking it

[steep girder]

But at that moment you know he's imagining things for some reason and... yeah. Idfk lol

[slim mirage]

God damm spoilers I haven't seen it yet!

[steep girder]

Yeah that's what I mean. It feels like that episode isn't too meaningful. Or it's designed to be as vague as possible in that classic BS way for shows. The entire episode is basically one set too. Then 5 sec his house at the end also interior

But literally the rest of the show you can't overthink it. There's always a reason and some hidden egg lol. Like the carwash not having a 'danny' according to Saul. The whole time it's showing Bogdan with the eyebrows lmao. The short version of Bogdan is Danny. The carwash did have one lol

And it's def on purpose because it's a Saul vibing irony as usual

[paper mesa]

where to download xbox 360 game roms

[distant wren]

That looks delicious 😄

[manic torrent]

That's an actual picture I took, not the stock photo

[dusty rune]

whats funny is actually understanding bogdan, as a romanian. seeing him cuss that guy out on the phone or smth yikes

[median idol]

Halal snack pack

[steep girder]

I mean legal answer is off your own xbox discs

[dusty rune]

the illegal answer is [REDACTED]

[paper mesa]

i own them but just misplaced them where can i find online

[steep girder]

I think that's fine maybe

[manic torrent]

www.getxboxisos.com

[steep girder]

But idk some places have them I guess. Im not gonna name sites but I'd recommend torrenting over http lol

Because gigabytes

[timid meadow]

I download them from my own archive to whatever device i need

[dusty rune]

check the MEGATHREAD of the subreddit i wont name

[paper mesa]

why would i need a torrent

[steep girder]

You don't need torrent

[dusty rune]

torrents r usually faster

[steep girder]

But it's preferrable. Especially if your download speed or the site is under a megabyte/s speed

Http downloads usually don't resume lol

[distant wren]

dont need it but handy for bigger as X GB files, and don't want download programs seperately managing HTTP connections , and hopefully track the bit and hopefully would resume.

[timid meadow]

Free media for all, heck yea! Alright guys lets get our toes off the line before we get nuked

[manic torrent]

Http has had resume for decades.

[steep girder]

Http has resume but it's usually not enabled though, no?

I think apache has it off by default. Idk how even resume works but I remember there's an httpd option for sure that you turn on

[distant wren]

apache is just a webserver 🤷‍♂️ there are plenty different webservers out there.

[manic torrent]

It's just awful with browsers. Back in the day people used download managers.

[steep girder]

Yes. Apache is an http server. Httpd as in daemon I think.

But yeah the web server has to allow resuming and I think it's off by default. Idk but I rarely get it to resume once connection drops

[distant wren]

but interesting 🤔 its done by "chunked encoding" by requesting a range of bits

During a "chunked encoding" transfer, the sending party sends a stream of [size-of-data][data] blocks over the wire until there is no more data to send and then it sends a zero-size chunk to signal the end of it.

combined with byte serving 😄
Byte serving begins when an HTTP server advertises its willingness to serve partial requests using the Accept-Ranges response header. A client then requests a specific part of a file from the server using the Range request header. If the range is valid, the server sends it to the client with a 206 Partial Content status code and a Content-Range header listing the range sent.

but its different in Http/2 which has its own mechanism 🤔

[steep girder]

Tbh even to this day, you need a download manager lol. Firefox doesn't do resuming fully. Just pause while you're downloading and resumes only after that. I think it has to be same connection at least. And if you pause too long, it fails too I remember. So not even real pause and resume to this day lol

[distant wren]

no clue , I have not looked at the source code of that part 🤔

[neon mesa]

Edge do download resume fine

[steep girder]

Lol I haven't really looked at any source code of FF

[distant wren]

me neither but its opensource 🤷‍♂️

[manic torrent]

Yeah but you don't. I have gig internet. Even when I only had 100mbit, still didn't

[steep girder]

Honestly even open sourcing browsers doesn't save it from being a clusterfrigg of a situation. A web browser is generally an engine which renders html and css, reads java script at least and implements standard specs, etc. In theory, ideally every page should look and behave the exact same way. In practice, nope lol.

[manic torrent]

I mean, if it was 1998, sure.

[steep girder]

Yeah so a gig internet. Have you ever even downloaded a file off the internet at 1Gbps?

[manic torrent]

A web browser is more or less an entire virtual machine system and operating system in 2023

[manic torrent]

No, but I don't care?

Point is it's fast enough and reliable.

[steep girder]

Even Steam I think didn't give me 1 gig downtown Toronto from the same location. The upload speed of host is also important to consider. Even big service providers like Google or Steam... well to say the least my drive downloads slower than Valve servers. I expected opposite. Then again, makes sense since like a third of the planet is on youtune lol

But torrenting is multiple connections. Usually on a decently seeded torrent, you saturate your download speed with multiple connections. Again, 2023 google doesn't give me a gigabit download of my own drive and I even pay a little lol

[manic torrent]

Yes,.but even downloading multi gigabyte files at somewhere between 100 and 1000 mbit, it doesn't take long enough to care.

[steep girder]

Honestly yeah lol

What is that? 125Mb/S

So 8s gig file or am I demented

[manic torrent]

Yeah, but even after a few minutes, it's at "I don't care" levels of waiting.

[wispy marsh]

Now that peertopeer is an opt-in thing for steam content, yes

[steep girder]

Yeah wtf. Interesting. It's weird how games got to like tenths of terabytes nowadays and I didn't even realize how fast I'm downloading lmfao

[wispy marsh]

My 100gb game downloads are an hour, tops

[steep girder]

Like a gig download back in the day was a whole day ordeal or longer I remember. Probably longer. Even still, I used e2dk network or whatever it was called

All those donkey apps with e prepended lol. eMule, eDonkey, Kaza. Kaza is goat in Russian.

That was p2p already wtf, Yeah I mean I ditched flashgot and whatever for http pretty quickly. Back then the thing was you needed http sometimes regardless. Still you easily had like 56k modem and just over 100MB download, Unfomfortable era.

But yeah http download manager was used lol. Ability to resume download was in my prayers

[steep girder]

Well sure but my point is you're going into the realm of not being sure if even the provider is uploading fast enough for your gigabit. Steam last time I checked was well under 1Gbps. It's like around 80MB so 640 I think

Wow nice lol if you have 500Mbps you're too slow; if you have full gig you're too fast. Unfortunate given that most internet jumps to a gig after 500 :P

[wispy marsh]

I have ~200, which is almost 1g

[steep girder]

Wait what. Internet speed is almost always presented in bits with lower case b. One gig internet or gigabit internet is the same thing as 1Gbps always

[wispy marsh]

Uhh, 1G

Huh, maybe not

[steep girder]

1Gb = 1/8 GB as in bytes where upper case B is

Download speeds are usually displayed in the B bytes so the other one

If you have download speeds showing over 125MB/s, you have faster download than one gigabit internet lol

[wispy marsh]

My country has done a pretty good job of handing internet

I think I'm getting 300mbps top

Buuuut i also only look at steam download speeds, which might be limited to 300

[steep girder]

Also you have amazing download server if it's http. Because, again, freakin Google: caps downloads over http from drive slower than Steam lol. My main concern is do they do it out of necessity or not

It's 2023. Exactly. I should be like webRTC multiple connections in browser from google drive to different data centers of theirs lol

[wispy marsh]

I have a lifetime license to IDM specifically because of this

I retrieve up to 16 parts of however large the file is

[steep girder]

But irl http 2023 is like downloading repository off github site in browser and it streams it without even knowing file size or when download ends lol. Source code is one of the sensitive things. Luckily zip container acts as checksum so you know it was fully downloaded if it opens

[wispy marsh]

Let the servers' cdn do the rest

[steep girder]

I know why this happens but still lmfao. Just a silly example. Github likely doesn't store the zip at all per the revision of a branch in a repo. It compresses when you click download

[steep girder]

Well the servers' cdn is basically other servers that are anything but that one lol. But again, if Google is slower than a gig idk

[wispy marsh]

I only use YouTube when it comes to the majority of my direct usage for google services

My other things are azure or ali

[steep girder]

Right. And I'm pretty sure you're always connecting to the closest google data center in your area. I never get anything back from dns other than YYZ.blah. So google gives me everything from Toronto

[wispy marsh]

It's more cost effective

[steep girder]

Tbh I mean think about just the internet connections worldwide lol. You have a gig download, sure. Everyone has a gig download. Google centers have to handle millions of these 1Gbps downloaders at once

[dreamy rose]

possible

[steep girder]

I think it's not just cost. There's a limited amount of bandwidth to go around. Line issue: no matter what the connection is at the data center, it's like 6.9x10^z Tbps in one point

[mild current]

You only ever need 10Mbps

[steep girder]

Even if google wants to add another line... a line to where lol. That's what I mean. Is it a resource issue? I mean Google has a tougher job than Steam that's for sure. No matter what, gamers are always the subset of all computer users lol

[dreamy rose]

for basic email checking yeah

[steep girder]

I've seen youtube videos with more views than the population of the planet

So you know that some portion of the viewers had to watch at least twice. But more likely it's less than that with more repeat views. Still impressive though.

[dreamy rose]

Baby shark should never have took off so hard

had zero right to.

[mild current]

You can have multiples of 10Mbps, but due to technical limitations you are not getting any lower latency, just more data after that speed

[steep girder]

Well latency doesn't matter in piecewise/chunked downloads. It is probably one of the least worrisome places for ping.

[mild current]

If you aren't worried about latency have you considered employing a pigeon, it has been done before

[steep girder]

Downloads in general what's even 999ms ping? In FPS games, 100ms is already a problem. In quake 2 I know a special brand of players that prefer US servers for some reason based in Europe. They can only play like 150ms ping and not regular because they trained for it specifically :P

[paper mesa]

someone help me find rdr1 rom

[steep girder]

999ms ping in quake 2 means likely your ping is higher than that since the game doesnt bother measuring any further. And you get autokicked usually.

Which makes sense to be honest because grunt is frozen grunt. Downloads though you can have even seconds ping. I think that the real issue correlates with ping indirectly. 1000ms ping means either Singapore-US or satellite. More losses, etc

[mild current]

https://web.archive.org/web/20140215072548/http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

[neon mesa]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-brags-about-cheaper-16gb-gpus

[steep girder]

Like UDP forget about it if you see 1000ms rtt even. So 500 ms one way is usually bad indicator distance-wise. Going over ocean then through like various countries' questionable infra. Thank god UDP is treated as not guaranteed to begin with

[glad mist]

Hi

[neon mesa]

Intel arc in the corner with 16GB at $330

[tired glade]

Oh,500

4060 will be funny

It's 6800

[steep girder]

Because it's like 4050 in a box that says 4060? Is that how it goes?

[glad mist]

Vibing.

[tired glade]

We will see

There is rumour about 7600 announcement on 16-19 May

[steep girder]

Wait so 4060 chip can't run fast enough so they burn a bunch of sht off and put it in 4050Ti box. Then they rebrand everything so it ends up back in 4060 box. I'm not sure that's accurate but I wouldn't be surprised

[tired glade]

Isn't that depends on tdp configurations?

Power limited configurations*

[mint yacht]

Intel arc in the corner still lagging behind until they get their drivers up to speed

[neon mesa]

Hey at least it's not acting like a good guy while simultaneously committing shady business practices

Oh last i heard intel don't make exploding CPUs

[tired glade]

Battlemage is way too close, most likely they won't be dramatic improvement drivers anymore until new gen

[neon mesa]

I hate all three companies but people believe AMD is the good guy too much

It gets on my nerves

[tired glade]

It's Intel,they are not good guys

[neon mesa]

Never said

[tired glade]

Let's say, AMD is less of 3 evils

[neon mesa]

Definitely not

They're wolf in sheep's clothing
None is least evil

[mint yacht]

They're a company and I blame their marketing department lol

[neon mesa]

-RX 580 2048SP
-Outrageous RDNA 2 MSRP
-RX 560x rebrand
-Zen 3 Price hike once they realize they're on top.
-Outrageous Zen 4 platform cost
-etc

Attempts by AMD to screw over
But then they realize they're not in the market position to call the shots

AMD's good guy behavior is literally survival mechanism

[mint yacht]

AMD's good guy behaviour is just to get more sales so they can make more money as always

[neon mesa]

It's survival mechanism because they're not gonna keep up otherwise

[mint yacht]

Also Zen4 currently exploding in motherboards which still needs a proper official statement or something

[dusty rune]

companies r companies in the end. they all want profit

[manic torrent]

Also motherboards melting

[glad mist]

Life’s weird

[distant wren]

Yes, I agree

[dreamy rose]

its caused by faulty OCP mostly. its supplying the CPU current constantly. soon enough its more than it takes then crack. ded.

[dreamy rose]

Also the only one at AMD i blame for the poor launch of RDNA3 are the higher ups. they thought problems would be fixed by the launch deadline. and now it just looks like they lied to people who don't care to actually look into it and Pedal "AMD Shit" every chance they get

[wind pier]

is linux good

im just asking

i didnt try yet but i want to just ask before i boot to it if i would or wouldnt have any issues

[dusty rune]

depends what you want to use it for...

and your components

[distant wren]

Exactly what woopyman says, what do you want to use it for?
Gaming? depends on the game , mileage may vary,
Development? amazing, you can configure what you want but also break allot because you have the freedom to do what you want.

[dusty rune]

for example, my gaming experience on linux was horrendous, everything else was better than on windows 10

except installing software. i sucked at that

[wind pier]

as a daily driver with stability, privacy, no wayland, no systemd, debloated, recommended for laptops with 2050 mAh battery, for programming and for running virtual machines

[dusty rune]

well, yea then linux is better

[sharp spear]

why macos doesnt have a bios setup unlike windows pcs ?

[distant wren]

aslong as daily driving does not mean gaming 🤷‍♂️

[dusty rune]

cause Macs already come with it preinstalled, no?

[dreamy rose]

thats like asking if water is necessary for survival

[dreamy rose]

because its a Mac not a PC

[timid meadow]

Gamersnexus be like "awe shit here we go again"

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/133i254/corsair_ddr5_ram_catastrophically_failed_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[dusty rune]

macs are pcs.. but sure

[sharp spear]

well mac uses EFI which shares the same function as UEFI in windows pcs; but i meant is that why you cant change bios settings in mac pcs

[dreamy rose]

hey not something to blame AMD for, finally.

[dusty rune]

cause ig theres nothing to really change?

wait thats wrong, meh, apple just doesnt want you to have higher performance ig

[dreamy rose]

Mac is the exact opposite of a PC. its extremely limited, you cant tweak and choose whatever you want, like a PC Lets you.

[dusty rune]

youre using a definition made up 20 years ago, get over it already

[dreamy rose]

you still call an Xbox a gaming console even though the definition is like well over 50 years old,

[dim arrow]

Welp

[sharp spear]

what i find weird is that mac's firmware is not easily corruptable unlike standard windows bios; which might explain why you do not need to update the mac firmware while a bios update in a pc might brick your motherboard

[dim arrow]

I just found an amazing deal 270 usd for a 6700XT

261*

[dusty rune]

macs r pretty much built to be as easy to use as possible id say

[dim arrow]

Does anyone want a 6700xt

[dusty rune]

maybe not actually

[dusty rune]

i paid double for mine..

[dim arrow]

The guy payed 15k lical currency and is selling for 4800 local currency

[dreamy rose]

the OS Definitely is not unless you manage to twist your brain around its ass backwards logic.

[dim arrow]

Im willing to buy this gpu and ship it to anyone for 300 usd

[storm pond]

Ok... i just received my new parts which includes a 7800x3d and a B650 aorus Elite Ax which happens to be the 2 exact components that GamerNexus feature in their "we make 7800x3D explode" video and now i'm scared to even build this computer

[sharp spear]

btw it's not true you can't tweak on a mac os tho; since it is a UNIX system; executing sudo rm rf will crash the mac and it is the equivalent of deleting system32 on windows

[full fossil]

5600g?

[dreamy rose]

if you notice any odd behaviors like the video described just dont use it and try see if you can RMA or if it does blow up RMA Should get you covered,

or you can send it to Steve too,

[storm pond]

I do hope so. What's even more scary is that the guy that burned it with the gigabyte ( the issue is apparently more common on asus ) did it on first boot

i ll probably q-flash plus the mobo before building since they apparently released some fixes but it's still god damn scary

[dreamy rose]

ok theres no way an RMA would be denied if you got that unlucky.

[storm pond]

yeah... no OC and no amd Expo either. Just default settings

[wind pier]

i meant programming amd using virtual machines

[dreamy rose]

would Undervolting stop it?

semi joke ofc.

[storm pond]

Yeah... i'm not even sure. And that's far from being a solution... i'll just go for the bios update and start praying i suppose

[dusty rune]

its still rare

[dreamy rose]

if you had the money i'd probably just have gotten a 7600 spare incase it died and the board was fine. but yeah its not happening often.

[dusty rune]

its like being scared of a brick falling on your head

[storm pond]

i know, you would have to get a below average silicon and multiple issues to actually burn the cpu, GN apparently took some time to reproduce the issue, but it's the first time that i buy potentially faulty parts and that just doesn't feel good.

[dreamy rose]

its good to prepare for the worst. but not always nessasary.

[dusty rune]

yup

[storm pond]

as a matter of fact, i was also scared of that when i was walking on the street younger. Not bricks but flower pots hahaha

[dusty rune]

flower pots r def more likely to fall than bricks

thats a reasonable fear

[dreamy rose]

your street had many balconies?

[storm pond]

I live in Paris, it's more common than you think

[dreamy rose]

ah yes it absolutely does.

[dusty rune]

just like the 12vhpwr thing except the adapter was user error

[storm pond]

i actually saw one fall in front of me one time

[dusty rune]

oh yeah u def had a rational fear then

[dreamy rose]

12VHPWR wasnt user error, its a design fault. that lead to user error.

[dusty rune]

sure, but you still had to mess it up to make it burn

def a design flaw though, did they issue a new adapter?

[storm pond]

hmmmm yeah, but you can't really do anything if you burn your cpu just by powering up your PC. You do have to power it on at some point hahaha

but yeah, i shouldn't worry too much. EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE FIIIIIIIIIIINE

[dreamy rose]

and due to the design it felt like it was fully plugged in when it wasn't. easy to do. absolutely a bad design. and as for new adapters i think ppl needed more than just a new cable.

[dusty rune]

for sure!

[storm pond]

I'll build tomorow. If i'm not back tuesday, the computer exploded and i'm dead

[dim arrow]

Gpu's are so cheap here its scary

[dusty rune]

if something goes wrong, we will look on reddit for the post

[dim arrow]

Anyone need a 6800 for 435 usd

Theres even a suprim 3080 for 572 usd

[dusty rune]

not that good tbh

[dim arrow]

Ah

What would you guys suggest as an upgrade from a 6600

[dusty rune]

you can buy a used 3080 for like 400$ if lucky

[dim arrow]

Damn

[rigid tide]

i just found out a PLUSHIE i have is worth $250

the og price is $28

[plush rivet]

<@&750150305383186585>

[sand wadi]

"as a wise man once said, my black rectangle is better than your black rectangle."
-random comment from YouTube Shorts, 2023

[mild elm]

Where

Also the prices aren’t that great

[dim arrow]

Facebook marketplace in south africa

[dim arrow]

Well in comparison to what the cards sell for new here they are mental

[mild elm]

Def stolen

[dim arrow]

50/50

[dim arrow]

The one guy is selling a carf he bought roughly 5 months ago for 1 3rd of the price

So in comparison they are in insanely cheap

[uncut axle]

Yes!! The stupid 8mb file limit was just made up to 25mb now

[mild elm]

“Bought”

[dim arrow]

He had a proof of purchase in the photos

I offered to trade my 6600 which in comparison could sell for 1k more than he was advertising but he said no🥲

[full fossil]

buy one card, steal 5 others and boom proof of purchase

[idle badge]

@dim arrow sjw pfp, nice

[dim arrow]

He bought 2 and sold 1 so far and is only selling the last card

[gentle slate]

Ever since we switched to some Roku router thing for internet and digital TV, I've been having internet issues. And I really want to blame it on the Roku Digital TV thing

[full fossil]

man, I was joking

[dim arrow]

Ik but i added context anyway to make it easier

[uncut axle]

They make routers?

I knew they made tv boxes (we have one ourselves), but routers? I didn’t know that

[gentle slate]

apparently. The router IP takes me to a roku login page

[mild elm]

Link the product

[past egret]

bread goes into toaster
wait
comes out toasted
you believe in that shit?

[full fossil]

They don’t make routers
They might have a vpn software but they don’t manufacture routers

[novel tendon]

Um
It's called heat?

Then you must not believe in cooking

[past egret]

is it the ding that makes the toast

[full fossil]

Heat is a lie invented by zeus to get more fucc done

[novel tendon]

I was about to bring up Am5 cpu explosions

[past egret]

are there tubes that shoot the toast out

[novel tendon]

But I guess I'm not gonna

[past egret]

thats crazy

[gusty jacinth]

My GPU fans died and i am a total noob opening first time a GPU just looking in to it and hoping i can maybe figure something, wish me luck.

[jade snow]

force is bad

and dont use the pcb as a lever

[gusty jacinth]

i wonder if it kills the GPU if i cut this wire going to the GPU led lights, otherwise i cant pull out this cover, ill just cut this with scissors

[jade snow]

...

[gusty jacinth]

Its just white RTX logo

[jade snow]

or you can unplug the cable like a normal person

[gusty jacinth]

I am trying to clean the GPU fans, not trying to get rid of the RGB, the cover and its leds are connected to the GPU so i need to cut the wire so i can pull the cover 😄

[jade snow]

mans got the brainrot

@gusty jacinth just find a disassembly guide for your card and stop with the caveman shit

and throw the scissors away

[full fossil]

nice the plastic on my razer kracken x headset decided to break in half, had it less than a year

[wispy marsh]

I just finished the April 15th wan show

It feels like time is moving so fast for me that I can't keep up with things anymore

I don't like to repeat but I have to say this again: the audio and video quality on fp is so good that yt cannot compare to

[graceful burrow]

Almost like it's higher bitrate weird

[echo canopy]

YouTube bitrate starves anything under 1440. Even then their 1440 is lower quality then it could be.

[full fossil]

I just had a tv repair guy come to fix my tv & he said if it shows no signal again I should try spraying wd40 in the hdmi port and cable, is it alright? Seems a but sus..

[echo canopy]

Just unplugging it and plugging it a few times would wear off the thin layer of corrosion.
Why the fuck would you use WD40 Is beyond me

[full fossil]

I’m lucky I didn’t have it at home, he was asking for it to spray it in there

[tardy terrace]

uhh, no

[manic torrent]

something something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction

[tardy terrace]

some canned air will do just fine.

Also good morning!

[manic torrent]

I mean, it won't necessarily hurt,but it seems pretty fucking stupid

[tiny saffron]

Try another cable

[distant wren]

Good evening 🙂

[gusty jacinth]

thanks, learned how to disassembly the fans, cleaned them and greased them and now im assembling them back in, fingers crossed i didnt mess up anything

[tardy terrace]

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-D5S-6-DeoxIT-Contact-Cleaner/dp/B00006LVEU?th=1
my go-to for electronics & corrosion

[full fossil]

👍 thanks

Is win 11 or 10 more opitmized

[graceful burrow]

They're close enough to where the end user wouldn't know the difference once you've got your programs installed

It's basically personal preference at thus point

[tardy terrace]

11 uses P/E style cpus better because of the new scheduler

[graceful burrow]

Pretty sure that was backported

[full fossil]

so basically if I have all my stuff installed
its basically the same

[graceful burrow]

All that being said
Windows 10 is basically on maintenance mode until it's 2025, at which time support ends

[jade snow]

w10 build 19044 is the goat

all you will ever need

[burnt robin]

Nvidia has tensor vram compression, so in theory, 4080 with 16GB vram what would equal in RDNA3 Vram terms with compression?

[quaint salmon]

is windows 11 safe to get now? i've just been sticking with 10 for stability's sake but i dont wanna have to fork over money when windows 10 loses support

[graceful burrow]

Been safe

[quaint salmon]

oh someone else asked too

[wispy marsh]

I think I've had 11 since 21h1

That was almost a year or more ago

[neon mesa]

@graceful burrow opinion?
generated with a private merged model, Eular A 20 steps, CFG 7

[quaint salmon]

i ask because windows 11 messed with some anticheat with a game i enjoyed

[neon mesa]

i have been cooking up my SD skills

[quaint salmon]

eyes are nightmare fule

[wispy marsh]

Eyes look weird

[neon mesa]

yeah i ignored it

[wispy marsh]

But she'd be a good manager or antagonist

[graceful burrow]

Haven't heard of win11 causing any anticheat issues as of recent

[neon mesa]

including the 6 fingers

[neon mesa]

it's fucking female jensen huang

[quaint salmon]

is windows 11 much different from 1o??

[wispy marsh]

I don't like how they handled w11's ui

[graceful burrow]

To the end user, just the ui

[wispy marsh]

1. start menu
2. ipv4
3. windows security

[neon mesa]

female jensen would drive up sales ngl

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, I figured and that's why I said that, but in an anime context

[quaint salmon]

i'll do a test run on my laptop

[neon mesa]

lisa su got competition

[quaint salmon]

is it hard to roll back?

[graceful burrow]

You reinstall entirely if you wanna go back

[neon mesa]

female jensen is well in the antagonist range

[wispy marsh]

11 is the exact same as 10 just without all the UI of it

[quaint salmon]

its easier to do that on a pc than a laptop but i'll give it a go, im always up to try new tech

[neon mesa]

11 is just better than 10, so many horrible part of 10's UI reworked

[quaint salmon]

i just remember hearing a lot of complaints in the early days saying 11 was unstable

[neon mesa]

explorer tab, notepad tab, redesigned task manager, etc

[quaint salmon]

which made me not want to get it

also some of the games i wanted to play didnt work which also made me hesitant

[tardy terrace]

god dark mode task manager is so good

[neon mesa]

everything finally feels like one OS and not a frankenstein of new and old

[quaint salmon]

im really installing a new OS instead of doing my systems assignment ☠️

[wispy marsh]

Not true

MMC is still legacy-looking

[quaint salmon]

whats mmc

[neon mesa]

the end task button is the best of all

[quaint salmon]

multimedia something

[neon mesa]

because i had my fair share of hunting for the end task button on the context menu

[graceful burrow]

Just hit delete?

[neon mesa]

and it kept fucking moving

[wispy marsh]

Just use delete lol

[neon mesa]

you can do that?

[graceful burrow]

Bruh

[neon mesa]

not my fault they don't write that shit anywhere

[graceful burrow]

You've been able to do that
For a long time

[tardy terrace]

alt+e is the macro to kill a highlighted process

[tiny saffron]

best just turn of your room breaker

[tardy terrace]

I found an old gpu of mine

[thorny axle]

Idk how people survive light mode

[pallid crescent]

do anyone know why the color red looks blurry/pixelated on my screen?

[thorny axle]

Maybe that’s why we’ve had such a rapid increase in eye problems

[green fog]

Whats the best value gpu rn?

[lucid echo]

You’re able to have the brightness way lower, and you’re never surprised by a blinding white window that isn’t properly dark-moded

I was dark mode gang until recently, I’m enjoyed light mode way more. A lot more consistent and easier on the eyes

[pliant karma]

same my phone is on a schedule for dark/light mode

around 7pm it kicks in after the sun sets

[lucid echo]

It’s not screens, it’s spending long durations looking a close objects without spending time re-focusing your eyes at far objects. Same issues if you read a lot of books. Optometrists recommend having your computer by a window and setting reminders to look outside to adjust your eyes

[thorny axle]

You guys all took that way too seriously

Have you never seen a light mode meme before?

[tardy terrace]

Eye care is important

[lucid echo]

Never in my whole life

[tardy terrace]

I generally try to avoid it

[pliant karma]

my profile is meant to flashbang you sorta

[tardy terrace]

see a little light is ok

[pliant karma]

lol

[tardy terrace]

mine is meant to go w/ the banner

[lucid echo]

can’t get flashbanged if you’re always banging

[tardy terrace]

fk'n love that pic

[pliant karma]

the last super reaction till I get 5 again there ya go