public-chat

[long briar]

I have 32 because it wasn't more expensive than 16

I will say, ripjaws v are cheap but they aren't good

[dreamy rose]

16 comes with the A16 i'm looking to get. i'd like to grab 32 with a 1TB games drive. but its extra money spent.

[graceful burrow]

I've got 32 because it was a fuckin sick deal at the time and I need it for creative apps

[forest valve]

I'm still using my Ryzen 2700x with RTX2070 and 32GB DDR4

[wind pulsar]

[manic torrent]

I wouldn't build a PC with less than 16, and I wouldn't put less than 32 in a general purpose multi use PC.

[long briar]

I'm using 11gb rn

[forest valve]

I built with 16 in 2019

[long briar]

with 16gb of cache

5gb free

[manic torrent]

But more than 32? Diminishing returns.

[neon mesa]

unless you play DCS

[forest valve]

What's a DC

[neon mesa]

i bought 32GB because that game chugs my 16
it still chugs my 32GB and it ended up being a wasted upgrade

[graceful burrow]

Dreamcast

[wind pulsar]

I will buy 128 right now and nobody shall stop me
I want those 64 chunks in Minecraft!! xD

[full fossil]

honestly i started rly getting into pcs during the late 2010s dram/nand flash and gpu shortage era so seeing cheap ram is so surreal to me

[neon mesa]

minecraft bedrock can do those with much less

[long briar]

oh I started in like 08

[forest valve]

Bedrock is shit

[dreamy rose]

laptops are coming with 16. not 32. grabbing that afterwards is necessary. shame.

[median idol]

looks at the 128GB RAM in my Ryzen 9 rig

[manic torrent]

I mean it's cheap, I don't care 🙂

[full fossil]

some of them still come with 8

[neon mesa]

though rendering 64 chunk is dumb in full quality
use mods to use dynamic quality rendering

[forest valve]

Only good thing for bedrock is using bedrockconnect so you can play with people that only have consoles on Java servers

[dreamy rose]

i was forced into PC Gaming when 2020 hit.

[long briar]

those are budget laptops or older ones

8 is fine for just very light use

[dreamy rose]

new laptops can still come with DDR4. because intel.

[full fossil]

yeah but a $1000 gaming laptop with a 3060 shouldnt come with 8

[wind pulsar]

Even 64GB DDR5 kits aren't that expensive, tbh

[long briar]

yea for sure

[neon mesa]

[long briar]

yea they've like halved in price since initial release

[full fossil]

ive seen some SKUs up to 3080s with 8gb ram

[long briar]

kinda crazy actually

[median idol]

I got my 64 gig kit of 6400 CL32 for $280 so it's definitely going down to earth in price

[full fossil]

cant u get a basement tier 32gb ddr5 kit for less than $100

[manic torrent]

8 is ok in a laptop if you are skint, but it's really not enough to do modern stuff well. Fine on a Chromebook though.

[wind pulsar]

Yes, not something you should buy though

[wind pulsar]

(Also the reason why the 8GB entry-level Mac mini is fine)

[dreamy rose]

for a Chromebook 8 is bloody good,

[median idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GMZXsY/gskill-ripjaws-s5-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239g32gx2-rs5k
This is the kit. And ooooh it went down to $260

[dreamy rose]

normally they got 1-4

[neon mesa]

right now storage and processor matters most for laptop usability (general usage)

even with 4GB a laptop is usable for general usage with minimal multi tasking

[dreamy rose]

AMD is pulling ahead here. going really strong

[manic torrent]

Ehh I mean "normally" for Chromebooks is garbage level laptops for children.

[full fossil]

i recently upgraded to 32gb because hogwarts legacy and last of us are ram hogs

[dreamy rose]

Schools and "Kid friendly laptops that cant game"

[manic torrent]

Also they are both absolutely garbage for different reasons.

[neon mesa]

i'm curious how much GTA 6 (or whatever is the next GTA title) would need

[dreamy rose]

Games now are being unoptimized af and plus the fact 8GB is a shit amount of VRAM to have anyway it makes for a tough combination. thanks Nvidia for making it Worse!

[manic torrent]

I was going to buy tlou, but asking a super premium price for a game that you already had the art, story, models, and IP for, and your port is a half assed fucking bullshit piece crap? Yeah I'm not buying it, even if you fix it.

[dreamy rose]

GTA 6. one of the only few games i am waiting for.

[full fossil]

Yo pc part picker should let you search cases by their outer dimensions so you can match it with the size of your subwoofer and get that symmetrical look. That would be dope

[manic torrent]

Games are not "unoptimized AF". This is a ridiculous generalisation.

[full fossil]

hm, it has an estimated 2025 release date and tbf, if you dont have 32gb by then, thats ur problem

[neon mesa]

i already got 32, would probably get 64 by then

[dreamy rose]

nah 256 would be standard by the time GTA 6 and HL3 roll out

[full fossil]

tlou pc devs need to realise they're not developing for a shitton powerful APU with shared memory

[median idol]

My personal rig will not be DDR5 until 64GB dims become a thing for the consumer market and for speeds to be adequate

[neon mesa]

i'm still sticking to DDR4 for now

[full fossil]

they literally just ported the ps5 code to pc

[manic torrent]

Eh, this isn't a technical issue. It's a management and budgeting issue.

[dreamy rose]

its more like they just recompiled the code for NT instead of swapping architectures.

[fervent prairie]

Less of that it's more the fact that most console games use some kind of upscaling for higher resolutions. At least keep that that steady 60fps

[full fossil]

i usually go used when i go for a platform upgrade, so in around 3 years, when ill prob need to upgrade from my 11400f, im prob gonna buy a 13500 and a cheaper ddr4 board

[dreamy rose]

like for instance if you wanna build the Recompile for perfect dark you gotta compile for X86 from MIPS. the ps4&5 is just x86

[regal bough]

what

[manic torrent]

That..... Isn't how it works at all.

[dreamy rose]

name checks out

[median idol]

Not to mention that it'll be a lot less stressful on the memory controller because quad rank

[manic torrent]

The thing is, there was a lot of time and money put into the original development of tlou to run well on console.
The port was a cut rate job, barely worthy of a beta. It was a cynical cash grab, and it worked.

[dull granite]

Shinji did WHAT?!?

[indigo plume]

Did youtube vanced stop working for anyone else

[full fossil]

what are you on about

[median idol]

It's an Neon Genesis Evangelion reference haha

Since that's where my PFP is from

[neon mesa]

it stopped functioning for me so i bought premium lel

[jaunty compass]

get revanced

[frosty ocean]

Hey guys

Nobody is being active in keyboards so I have come here to ask

What is thine favorite switch

[golden talon]

cherry mx speed silvers

or the membranes that are used in the apple magic keyboards those are my fav for typing

[median idol]

My favourite? Mine are Kailh Box switches

Especially the Navies

[glad mist]

grabs industrial contacter

Wait, what do you mean not that kind of switch?

[frosty ocean]

Lol

[glad mist]

The “hybrid” ones in my Steelseries keyboard are pretty nice

[frosty ocean]

Holy pandas babyyyyyy

Big tactile bumps

[glad mist]

Probably the oled one

Wait not that kind either???

[median idol]

Though my secondary keyboard has Kailh Box Royals. Which are more or less non clicky Navies

[frosty ocean]

The switch of light

[glad mist]

If it’s not got the click it’s not worth my time

[frosty ocean]

o7

[glad mist]

The click is half of why I use mechs

[frosty ocean]

Wait

[glad mist]

I want my typing to be heard

[frosty ocean]

You LIKE clicky switches???

[median idol]

Don't get me wrong I love clicky switches. My box royal keyboard is more or less for something to use during the night so I don't wake up my family

[glad mist]

My goal in life is to be that annoying coworker that does nothing wrong except type loudly

[golden talon]

i enjoy the speed silvers for gaming, but im a professional typist as well so the magic keyboard is the best for me there

[frosty ocean]

I used to, but my family got really annoyed with my blues, so I switched to browns like a NORMAL person

[median idol]

Would love to cop a Model M some day

[manic torrent]

Anything that isn't red, because it is the worst.

[frosty ocean]

Relatable

[glad mist]

Blue isn’t loud enough

[golden talon]

psycho

[frosty ocean]

WHITES???

[manic torrent]

I have a model M

[stray apex]

ibm model M

[glad mist]

If my key press doesn’t sound like a gunshot I’m not satisfied

[golden talon]

tesla model y

[frosty ocean]

Holy pandas tho

Like come on

[glad mist]

?

[frosty ocean]

Holy pandas

The tactile switch?

Just me?

[frosty ocean]

Fair, I don’t love liner switches either

Linear *

[elfin jetty]

keks in otemu browns

[frosty ocean]

My K530 in the the corner: omg gorl sameeee

[manic torrent]

You need to spend years honing your ability to alter your typing cadence. Rhythmic, irritating, secret messages, morse code. All while doing arbitrary typing.

[frosty ocean]

I’m modding it soon tho

[full fossil]

oh yeah, in the newest ltt video, they forgot to list one massive flaw of atlas os

[manic torrent]

Oh, and tune your keyboard for specific sounds from different switches.

[full fossil]

oculus vr flatout doesnt work

[manic torrent]

Perhaps adjustable

[median idol]

Here she is my secondary keyboard. Weird layout, yes but I quite like it with the dual space key

[glad mist]

I will install different weight switches on every key.

[full fossil]

i used to run atlas personally and i couldnt get quest link or virtual desktop working at all. the oculus software wouldnt even install

[frosty ocean]

uM iT’s acTuaLlY mEtA quEsT

[manic torrent]

Hardly a massive flaw. VR isn't that common

[full fossil]

tell that to over 10 million people who own a quest 2

[glad mist]

Um actually I refuse to call them that stupid name

[frosty ocean]

THANK YOU

[stray apex]

most of whom use it standalone, yes

[glad mist]

Naming your company meta is the stupidest shit

[full fossil]

even then, theres still a significant amount of people who want to use it on pc

[manic torrent]

On the contrary, you would have standard weight, but an adjustable backstop, and different weight on different modifier keys - and a double space bar as above. Subtle, but yeah

[stray apex]

no there isn't

[frosty ocean]

Not meta at all

[full fossil]

for stuff like half life alyx

[full fossil]

if there wasnt, then the feature wouldnt be there

[glad mist]

And each space should have a different backstop and weight

[stray apex]

the feature is there because the VR market is so tiny that facebook cannot possibly abandon the enthusiast segment

[frosty ocean]

@glad mist should I foam mod a K530 from Redragon?

[manic torrent]

yep. Hell, maybe even four spaces.

[full fossil]

either way, if youre wanting to use oculus vr, atlas is flatout shit

[stray apex]

if VR was actually popular, facebook would happily drop PCVR support on their mainstream device and just make a console

[glad mist]

And give each a different key switch

[frosty ocean]

No

[full fossil]

atlas is shit anyway, setting off anticheats and stuff

[manic torrent]

I reckon you could actually affect people in your office in a real way if you did this. It would take a year or more of dedication, but it's pretty awesome.

[full fossil]

the fact that ltt would promote the use of such a shit piece of software is mindblowing

[manic torrent]

hardly

[stray apex]

tfw ltt promotes something other than Windows 11 Home

[manic torrent]

9 million of which at least are gathering dust in drawers 😄

[forest valve]

I could never use anything besides a full keyboard

[frosty ocean]

Hey @full fossil , I have bad news, I can’t find the section of this whole chat where anyone asked

[manic torrent]

really? I find 86 is the best

[frosty ocean]

60% ALL DAY

[median idol]

I'm a full size personally 😛

[frosty ocean]

You’re also a great example on how it is okay to be wrong sometimes

(Joke)

I really don’t care what size of keeb you use, so long as it isn’t a 40% I don’t care

[glad mist]

Impossible

[frosty ocean]

I have. Question for thou

[glad mist]

Gotta use the full lol

[stray apex]

I'd buy the shit out of a 40% wooting keyboard for gaming though

[vital coral]

I have chep logitech keyboard

[glad mist]

?

[frosty ocean]

So, polyfill, or foam?

[frosty ocean]

🔥

[glad mist]

For what

[frosty ocean]

Modding keeb

[glad mist]

Idk mine rn is stock

[vital coral]

It was from a pack thing but the mouse i have switched to another.

[frosty ocean]

Well shit

[glad mist]

Sorry

[frosty ocean]

Good :)

[frosty ocean]

Eh, don’t be

I’ll just ask someone else and get yelled at because of it

[vital coral]

Ill buy new idk maybe someday

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[frosty ocean]

That’s what I’m sayin

Rezpekt

[glad mist]

So long as it has a super key I don’t care /j

[frosty ocean]

But why tho

[forest valve]

I only use full size

[frosty ocean]

Fair

[glad mist]

Same there’s just something about the numpad

[dull granite]

tf is keeb

[frosty ocean]

Keyboard

[manic torrent]

I have like... Uhhh.. 6? Ish? Keyboards.

[dull granite]

keywboarmd

[glad mist]

If I had image perms I’d screenshot my iOS keyboard and send it rn

[manic torrent]

How do people only have one keyboard .

[frosty ocean]

Bruh idk

[glad mist]

I don’t have room for more

[frosty ocean]

I have one prebuilt keeb that is good

[manic torrent]

Like... Not on my desk

[glad mist]

Me neither

I live in a shitty apartment

[frosty ocean]

Up his [REDACTED] for sure

[stray apex]

because it's neat

[glad mist]

[DATA EXPUNGED]

[stray apex]

and also frankly I don't use like a good quarter of my keyboard

[frosty ocean]

You pay more, for LESS keyboard tho

[spiral zodiac]

wonder if linus would want my old 850w psu to test an old power supply vs a new one. its a ~13 year old corsiar psu lol

[glad mist]

?

[frosty ocean]

A 40%

[vital coral]

I have two but the other one has silly port

[glad mist]

I don’t disagree with you on those

[frosty ocean]

EXACTLY

[glad mist]

They’re worthless

[frosty ocean]

Which one of you guys is a keeb nerd, I have some questions, just not here

[glad mist]

I wish I could afford a 3D printer to make customs with

[frosty ocean]

Bro Fr

Any keyboard knowers here? Is like to ask some questions

[median idol]

The smallest I'm willing to go for a Keeb layout is 75 for a secondary (and maybe 60 depending on the keys). Though for a daily driver, I prefer a full size if at all possible personally.

Since I use the numbpad a lot on my daily

[glad mist]

Hot take incoming

AI isn’t real. There’s nothing intelligent about it. Just because the algorithm changes itself doesn’t make it intelligent, it just means it’s self-correcting. To call chatgpt or the image generator algorithms an artificial intelligence is to call a plant intelligent. It seems to react to stimulus, but it doesn’t have conscious thought behind it.

[frosty ocean]

Oh. My. God.

[glad mist]

What

[frosty ocean]

You cracked the code

HES ESCAPED THE MATRIX

guys listen

[vital coral]

Real (humans arent real)

[frosty ocean]

When a baby cries, they get a nipple in they mouth, but when I cry, nothing. I’m not saying anything, but rn goo goo gah gah

[manic torrent]

while this is technically correct, 'intelligence' is emergent behaviour from simpler building blocks.

[frosty ocean]

It’s midnight rn :D

[vital coral]

:D its 9

[frosty ocean]

Are you a knower of keyboards sir

[glad mist]

Quagmire moment

[frosty ocean]

NAH WHAT

[glad mist]

No it’s midnight

[proven ivy]

I recovered a snow leopard era mac out of the trash earlier today. It boots fine however I would like to factory reset it. Only problem is I don’t have the passwords. Any ideas?

[frosty ocean]

Well versed in the language of keeb?

[glad mist]

@frosty ocean are we same timezone

[frosty ocean]

Hammer

[glad mist]

It’s 12:13 rn

[frosty ocean]

Lit

[vital coral]

Europe is silly place

[proven ivy]

It appears it was an old work Mac for the food network. I’d really like to make it mine though.

[glad mist]

I’m in the us

[vital coral]

Im europe and aware of that😎

[frosty ocean]

Hammer+morals/care=good factory reset

[frosty ocean]

What state? ( if you don’t mind me asking)

[glad mist]

I need a factory reset

[vital coral]

Internet propably has anaswers

[glad mist]

Colorado, you?

[frosty ocean]

ON GOD

[proven ivy]

In all seriousness I’ve tried command/r but it doesn’t take me to the screen it should. Figured I’d try coming here for help 😂

[frosty ocean]

Guess

[glad mist]

Canada?

[frosty ocean]

I’m in the us

[vital coral]

Hmm idk

[glad mist]

New Mexico

[frosty ocean]

Close but no

[glad mist]

Tribal land in Arizona (they observe daylight savings)

[manic torrent]

I know many things

[frosty ocean]

Are you versed in the language of keyboards?

[frosty ocean]

Nope

[glad mist]

Fine, Colorado?

[frosty ocean]

Still no

[manic torrent]

while not my primary langauge, I am likely better than many would say they are.

[glad mist]

Wyoming

[frosty ocean]

Think “church”

[glad mist]

Texas

[frosty ocean]

Can I call/dm you with some of my questions?

[manic torrent]

nope

[frosty ocean]

XD no

[glad mist]

Utah

[frosty ocean]

Alright then

[manic torrent]

you can ask them here

[frosty ocean]

DING DING DING wooooooooooo

[manic torrent]

land of the great white underwear

[frosty ocean]

Slow mode is pain, go to #peripherals in like 5 mins

[glad mist]

I like to call it Utah Arabia or the Utah Arab Emirates

[frosty ocean]

Utah slander moment

[vital coral]

Europe is ultimitier

[glad mist]

Is it really slander? Y’all working on getting the same fucked up laws

[frosty ocean]

I. Uh. Well you see… uhm.

[vital coral]

Restart it

[frosty ocean]

At least it isn’t Texas :D

[glad mist]

Is it plugged in

[frosty ocean]

PSU SWITCH

[vital coral]

Then very bad

[glad mist]

Do you see the motherboard screen?

[vital coral]

Check the wired

[frosty ocean]

Well there’s your problem

[glad mist]

No like do you ever see any logo on the screen

[dreamy rose]

here at LTT we love mothers, and boards!

[frosty ocean]

WOO

LMAO HUH

[glad mist]

At least the power supply and cpu work, what does the screen say

Can you dm a pic of it

[frosty ocean]

I have put my hampter in the microwave help

[idle nymph]

Bro

[tired glade]

Good old copy pasta

[tardy terrace]

evenin' folks

[tired glade]

Morning

[dreamy rose]

if you put pasta in a Cloning machine.

[dull granite]

huh

it's sharpeyeam's last message

anyone remembers that fella?

[dreamy rose]

who the fuck was that?

[dull granite]

i dunno

I can't really describe who he was exactly

[forest valve]

I'm tricking my brain to think I'm having fun while I write an essay by listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an9J6isFQag

200 IQ

[wise tundra]

Anyone got any idea if one can get Windows Defender running on AtlasOS? It seems like a good OS to use at work for our machines that don't do anything else then run specialized software but I don't feel like installing an external antivirus cause that would slow down the already slö computers

[true notch]

where does one post a video of importance? This server has gotten overly complicated

[graceful burrow]

install debloated os
wants to install bloat

[tardy terrace]

what subject of importance

[ocean galleon]

hey guys does linux themes like qogir are really safe and not spying on us

[true notch]

right to repair

[ocean galleon]

i need some help on this one

[graceful burrow]

im gonna have to watch this video later

this is yuge

i lied im watching it right now

[wise tundra]

Defender is the only thing I really care about. The machines aren't connected to the internet but random people do have physical access to them so we want to keep some kind of antivirus (Windows Defender has been great). Mostly what I like about AtlasOS is that the updates are broken so we don't need to update the machines

[forest valve]

Oh great ReVanced updated for YouTube so it crashes on me now need to update lmao

[graceful burrow]

@true notch thanks for this

[tardy terrace]

the thing about defender is that it gets it's definition updates from windows update, so

[graceful burrow]

i would have seen it eventually but got dam

[wise tundra]

I think we're still using Windows 1909 or something like that so it might be a smart idea to update at some point so the Atlas way seems way better for us, buuut we need some kinda antivirus

[ocean galleon]

.

[graceful burrow]

if you need defender dont use atlas

pretty much the whole story

[forest valve]

I wouldn't use Atlas for a production environment tbh

but that's your call

[tardy terrace]

they literally say it's meant for gaming.

[wise tundra]

I mean I want to make the OS lighter and try to make it so that there's nothing else then the software we use (a single .exe) and an antivirus that's pretty lightweight

Antivirus wouldn't probably be needed but as there's kids that might use them, it's not necessarily the best idea not to have one

[tardy terrace]

get thin clients, run a server w/ an antivirus on the hypervisor

Or, you can get the windows media tool and modify your own .wim packages, build your own ISO

[ocean galleon]

guys are themes for linux like qogir are safe or not please help me

[forest valve]

it's literally a linux theme you will be fine probably

[ocean galleon]

it will not spy right?

[forest valve]

probably not unless you give a theme root access or run its installer as root

[tardy terrace]

Dunno, it might. Everything can spy on you.

[wise tundra]

Most likely not

[forest valve]

if you already did it no point in asking the damage is already potentially done

[wise tundra]

A theme is usually just images and a config file

[ocean galleon]

no i have not installed it yet

[wise tundra]

You're fine

[tardy terrace]

don't install it as root and you'll be fine.

[ocean galleon]

ok

[forest valve]

I would install templeos to be safe

[tardy terrace]

You stop that

[ocean galleon]

thanks for the help guys

[tardy terrace]

'tis what we're here for, other than silliness

[wise tundra]

Building my own ISO is what I've been planning but was just trying to find an easier way out. Using a server ain't really an option as no money. I mean we have a firewall but

[tardy terrace]

i mean, user accounts w/ policy control?

[elfin jetty]

I too have been interested in creating my own isos so i can just clone my system to a new drive if i ever need to

[tardy terrace]

that's called clonezilla

[wise tundra]

We have a user account, yeah, but haven't really spent that much time locking it down. It's like any other user. This system we currently use was built by a guy who's in his 60's and he hasn't really done that much security enforcement.

Planning on hardening the firewall at some point as well as it's not really doing anything atm

It's just a pfSense machine

[tardy terrace]

are these pro versions of windows or just home

[wise tundra]

Home I'm guessing

We bought 10 laptop as bulk

Cheap ass ASUS laptops with AMD A6 CPUs

[tardy terrace]

so just, create a guest user and have it purge anything done on logout

you can also go through services and turn off things that you don't need running.

[wise tundra]

Would that slow the machine down? We have very impatient people (like my dad 😂)

[tardy terrace]

a guest account? no.

[wise tundra]

I mean the purging of data

[tardy terrace]

nnnno.

[wise tundra]

I mean yeah that could be really smart to do. Also if I could get Edge completely disabled, that'd be neat

[tardy terrace]

Group policy, you're welcome

[wise tundra]

Hmmm, thanks

Haven't played around with Windows too much. This helped a bunch

I'd just install Linux on all the machines if I just could 😂

The issue just is drivers

[tardy terrace]

Microsoft maintains a massive database of various driver packages, i'd look there for varying versions of w/e driver you're neading

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx

[wise tundra]

The devs of the hardware don't give any other platform options. Tho my boss told me that they at a point in time did support some other platform so I could probably just email am and ask if they can build a Linux driver

[tardy terrace]

its the most early 2k's site

[wise tundra]

The software is pretty new, supporting Windows 7 to 11

Linux ain't supported tho, that's the issue

I do have the Windows drivers

[karmic wedge]

That'll last 4 femtoseconds in a school environment for sure

[tardy terrace]

well they've obv lasted longer than that by now

[wise tundra]

(not a school environment btw) we've been using these for.... 5ish years now?

I don't remember the exact time as they got these devices when I was on a couple year break so I don't know the exact timing

[tardy terrace]

\o/

[wise tundra]

Oh wait the driver is just a simple USB to serial driver? cdm21228_setup

[tardy terrace]

they weren't supposed to be here until friday :D

[wise tundra]

Then I think it's just the software itself that needs to be ported. I'm pretty sure the software is made in python as the shell shows Tkinter calls

[tardy terrace]

well if you'd stop tking there wouldn't be an integer to log

[gleaming temple]

Is it? You should try Atlas then

[wise tundra]

But antivirus my man

We need some kinda antivirus but I don't want to install a seperate one

[tardy terrace]

god people are gonna just suggest atlas out their ass at literally any mainstream windows issue for the next month in here

[idle nymph]

Then they will totally forget about it

[tardy terrace]

Here have some music to forget about [REDACTED]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaeI61BtVc&list=RDIq-AENzz7Ls&index=4

[wise tundra]

All hail Windows 9

[manic torrent]

@vital coral what is a silly port? The old apple port? Serial?

[gleaming temple]

Well what's your bright idea then?

[graceful burrow]

there isnt a situation where you get what you want
either install atlas and have no windows av or dont install atlas

[tardy terrace]

If you had scrolled up further than you had, you'd've seen that we were discussing different ideas, and had already talked about atlas 10x more than what was just said

[gleaming temple]

That wasn't my question

[wise tundra]

I already understood that, so I'm not going to install that

[manic torrent]

Bright ideas for what exactly? How to be insecure?

[tardy terrace]

That's your answer, i don't have one. Your suggestion was already turned down, like how I said in my previous comment.

Again,.

[wise tundra]

I'm going to try to get the software to work on Linux

Linux is what I'm most comfortable with

[manic torrent]

I haven't even watched the video and I already don't care so hard. Standard "omg windows version X is best forever" garbage

[tardy terrace]

"omg lightweight windows its totally the future"
A: it already exists from a 1st-party platform
B: Atlas is severely limited

[wise tundra]

Didn't Windows AME have the option to choose what Microsoft crap to keep and what to not?

[tardy terrace]

I think it still does

[gleaming temple]

then what else is he supposed to do except try Linux? At this point, he can try downloading the os from the apollo command center

[tardy terrace]

Do you understand that apollo is windows.

[manic torrent]

Most people who run lightweight windows are either insufferable and poor running shit old hardware, or insufferable because they are just insufferable.

[graceful burrow]

holy shit he's spittin

[gleaming temple]

Nope. it just increases performance

[wise tundra]

AME could also work for me if I can't get the software running natively on Linux

I'm not going to be using Wine with something that needs to actually work

[manic torrent]

Galaxy brain take

[graceful burrow]

if i had a dollar for every time ive seen someone join the server and complain their stuff doesnt work and it turns out they "debloated" windows i'd be extremely rich

[gleaming temple]

I don't know about you, but 2 gigs of extra memory is hard to turn down

[manic torrent]

Fuck me that could cost as much as $7

[tardy terrace]

$20 says atlasOS doesn't support WSL, or windows hypervisor, or any sort of complex development platform functions.

"For gaming", not production environments

[wise tundra]

I just wanna limit how much you can do on the machine which making it feel snappier

[gleaming temple]

Where I live, there isn't any computer parts. Also, I don't have any more ram slots left

[manic torrent]

It's just bloat that nobody needs.

[tardy terrace]

I do :(

[manic torrent]

So you are insufferable and poor, got it.

[wise tundra]

WSL2 is pretty great at school

[manic torrent]

... not detect sarcasm well

[gleaming temple]

Why are you that toxic? I don't think I'm poor

[tardy terrace]

I'm autistic, my sarcasmometer's been broken from birth. \o/

[manic torrent]

I am also but I am Australian

[gleaming temple]

Also, I don't have any ram slots left in my laptop

[tardy terrace]

isn't sarcasm like your primary language characteristic

[manic torrent]

... and it's impossible to replace.

[tardy terrace]

Sometimes I can get sarcasm if I bonk my head hard enough

[wise tundra]

I can't upgrade the RAM on my laptop cause "1 slot" of RAM is soldered while the other is socketed. If I upgrade the RAM, I'd be mixing different type of RAM

[manic torrent]

Yeah pretty much. We generally have levels of sarcasm and irony.

[gleaming temple]

I have 2x8 gig sticks in my laptop. I'm pretty sure replacing a 8 gb stick with an 2 gb one is a bad idea

[tardy terrace]

then the system will have the ram run at w/e speed the soldered dimm is at, you can do weird cpacity configs, that's fine

[graceful burrow]

Why stop at 8gb sodimms

Get a few 16gb sticks

[manic torrent]

Soooo... You think that with 16gb ram you need a "debloated" windows at the cost of any security whatsoever

[wise tundra]

But I'd still be mixing capacities

[manic torrent]

My laptop has 16gb ram, it works fine.

[gleaming temple]

So?

[gleaming temple]

What's your point? I just want extra performance

[tardy terrace]

also yeah wtf, 16gb of ram and you wanna "debloat"- here's a tip, fresh windows install on a formatted drive

[wise tundra]

Use Linux at that point

[manic torrent]

I think I should make a software package that's easy and free, install it, it looks for atlas installs, compromises it, and deletes everything.

[gleaming temple]

That's like saying that overclocking a high end pc is meaningless

[tardy terrace]

Oh goodness I'm glad I'm staying up late

[manic torrent]

What performance? For what and how much is it? Do you even know?

[bright silo]

adding ram wont gain performance, if youre having issues its likely a windows install problem where debloating the install will fix it
which is FREE

[gleaming temple]

I do, 2 extra gigs of memory

[manic torrent]

... how is that helping you.

[gleaming temple]

I use my laptop as a workstation and server, those 2 gigs go a long way

[tardy terrace]

so you're parroting the LTT video.

[gleaming temple]

what ltt video?

[bright silo]

it mostly is... only small gains in performance for a lot more power

[wise tundra]

Except if you're compiling huge projects like LLVM and Firefox

[graceful burrow]

BRB seeing what kind of server he has so I can hack it because he told me directly that it's unsecure and unprotected

[wise tundra]

Having more RAM makes a huge difference

[tardy terrace]

then if you use it as a server you'd understand the security implications of removing any sort of malware detection tool

Not to mention the lacking features that could easily fuck up said things you're trying to run.

[gleaming temple]

I'm gonna be honest here, point? I'll do whatever I want with my laptop. Freeing up memory won't kill anyone.

[manic torrent]

.... It's not "freeing up memory"

[graceful burrow]

It might if you do it to medical systems

If you need more ram for a server, use Linux.

[tardy terrace]

The point we're trying to make is that you're not thinking anything about this clearly

[bright silo]

i mean in that case sure more RAM or just a new device with better capabilities... like how is one stick soldered in a workstation use case?

[gleaming temple]

I said that I passively use my laptop as a workstation too

[gleaming temple]

When did I say I have one stick? I use dual channel

[manic torrent]

I'm serious if you did that to a machine and plugged it in at a workplace, you'd be seeing HR and going on an "I am a huge idiot" security training course.

[tardy terrace]

Memory compression is a thing, so is a pagefile, also, did you know that windows quietly frees up unused/stale ram contents for things that actually need it?

Fk'n /wild/, huh??

[graceful burrow]

It's a laptop with 16gb of ram
Hardly a workstation

[tardy terrace]

gg warship

[graceful burrow]

Do it again it'd be funny

[gleaming temple]

I said that I USE IT AS A WORKSTATION

[bright silo]

oh maybe that was someone else

[manic torrent]

The cost of 32gb of ram is far far far cheaper than the cost of having your shit rekt

[tardy terrace]

^

[graceful burrow]

I can't read this it isn't in all caps

[gleaming temple]

You'll get warned if you try all caps

[bright silo]

did you know that windows overcommits RAM more than it actually uses? thats also a thing

[tardy terrace]

Just because you don't download silly things doesn't mean someone can't just portscan the entire internet and meander up to your device & do w/e

[graceful burrow]

Wouldn't know
I'm not some annoying kid who thinks he knows it all arguing at 2am in a Linus tech tips server

[manic torrent]

I am talking to you while watching my son play in the bath. He's putting a bath toy rocket in the water and lifting it up where it drains and spins around and stuff. He has more understanding of computer security than you do

[bright silo]

anyways my laptop has 32gb so theres that

[graceful burrow]

Absolute workstation material

[gleaming temple]

Point? Literally, I just said that I downloaded Atlas to free up memory and I'm getting absolutely demolished. What's wrong with using Atlas?

[bright silo]

nah its because AAA titles and chrome nom nom RAM while im docked

[gleaming temple]

This server is worse than twitter

[tardy terrace]

because you're using it for completely the wrong reasons

[manic torrent]

Nothing if a machine isn't connected to any network whatsoever

[graceful burrow]

That's what a workstation is according to some users in chat

[bright silo]

it has a lot of compromises that were briefly shown in the video

[gleaming temple]

What if I don't mind those compromises?

[tardy terrace]

and i really doubt you just brought atlasOS up at random and haven't seen the video.

[manic torrent]

Then you don't understand them.

[gleaming temple]

Once again, what video?

[bright silo]

no auto updates, no windows defender, some software may not work or have issues, to name a few

[tardy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[gleaming temple]

Says the guy who calls people poor for saving memory

[gleaming temple]

What's this?

[tardy terrace]

we've entered the angy defensive territory

[graceful burrow]

What are you even saving it for

[manic torrent]

Marriage

[graceful burrow]

[gleaming temple]

Because I want more ram?

[tardy terrace]

2 more gb is really pleasing to the partner, ok?

[graceful burrow]

For what?

[manic torrent]

Yeah I was wrong, you're insufferable entirely by choice.

[gleaming temple]

why do you even need to know

[tardy terrace]

And this is why I appreciate your presence.

[graceful burrow]

I'm trying to understand your point of view dingus

[gleaming temple]

Oh no!!! Please forgive me for saving 2 gigs of memory!!! Oh lord and savior please save me!!!

[manic torrent]

You haven't "saved 2 gigs of memory"

You have removed features.

[tardy terrace]

& probably things you need for your programs to work.

[gleaming temple]

who needs cortana anyway

[manic torrent]

As I said, you don't understand the features you have removed

[bright silo]

hmm discord + 3 chrome tabs + spotify uses 8GB of RAM lel

[graceful burrow]

I'm still tryin to understand what you're saving the 2gb of ram for

[gleaming temple]

For the last time, I don't have a problem with losing those features. You can continue crying about it

[tardy terrace]

god I'd love to see some of this in front of a board room of core windows devs

[gleaming temple]

no image perms, damn

[tiny saffron]

Safer that way

Especially now there's a bunch of trolls wanna get servers into troubles

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/image-perm-flex-image-perm-image-perm-flex-gif-20598085

[tiny saffron]

[bright silo]

where's everyone go? i was just making popcorn!

[tardy terrace]

sorry, I had to heat up some hamburger helper

[small oasis]

why do they call it that when it doesn't come with a helper?

[tardy terrace]

because all the pasta & seasoning are there in the box.

One pound, one pan, one tasty meal

[full fossil]

[tardy terrace]

my favorite is chili mac & adding some homemade bbq beans in near the end, top w/ red onion & charp cheddar

[dreamy rose]

i wonder why they call it HAMBURGER helper when they dont do Hamburgers

[tardy terrace]

because of the hamburger meat, i.e. ground beef

[dreamy rose]

but that's just beef then. this marketing is backwards

[tardy terrace]

I'm sorry you're unable to quantify the great american existence of hamburger helper

[dreamy rose]

i just dont Yee enough Haws.

[tardy terrace]

there's a tuna one, too. I've got a box of it but i've been reluctant on trying it because I want some proper fresh fish to use

[dreamy rose]

sounds nasty

[tardy terrace]

wym tuna casserole is the best

[dreamy rose]

nah the boxed tuna

[tardy terrace]

oh no hamburger helper is just the pasta & seasoning

[dreamy rose]

oh good

[tardy terrace]

you add your own protein

I used a leftover steak all chopped up once, side of green beans- was so good

[timber storm]

Hey guys, I don't know how to contact ltt, so I'll just put it here.
A while ago, I received the Minecraft caves and cliffs pc, and was wondering if ltt wanted to make a video on it. Any ideas how I would be able to contact them?

[tardy terrace]

https://linusmediagroup.com/contact-us

[dreamy rose]

i dont think they would care to make a video on it

[manic torrent]

I have returned from the end of the bath and dinner prep

[dreamy rose]

they dont focus on Individual games. they focus on hardware and hardware features/ Repair

[timber storm]

Yeah I thought that too, but it's just they seem to be rare, and they did a review of the starforge systems pc, so it seems sorta similar?

[timber storm]

Thx, I'll have a look

[manic torrent]

Wut? They do videos on cool tech stuff.

[dreamy rose]

no. thats hardware

[tardy terrace]

you prep dinner and a bath at the same time?

Do you eat dinner in the tub

[dreamy rose]

wouldnt be suprised

[tardy terrace]

I've always wanted to do that tbh but I'd be so sad if I dropped food in the water :(

[manic torrent]

End of the bath, THEN dinner prep. But eating dinner in the bath is glorious.

Also it wasn't my bath.

[dreamy rose]

he has a child. its the only privacy he gets

[tardy terrace]

now i'm guessing it's dino nuggets for dinner

[manic torrent]

Lol if you think a child isn't barging on on you in the bathroom, think again

Nah, pasta for him, pizza for me. Leftovers

[tardy terrace]

"DAD im hungry"

HWB in the tub half-asleep

[dreamy rose]

even when i'm 100 i'll never be too old for Dino nuggets

[tardy terrace]

I got my boss to order some for the kids after school that come through

[dreamy rose]

face covered in Ketchup

[tardy terrace]

they're gonna sell like hot cakes lmao

[dreamy rose]

bake hotcakes
put them on sale
watch

[tardy terrace]

not on my shifts, that's a morning thing

I've been pressuring management to let me use the commercial oven we have to do not-deep-fried food items for the hot box

[manic torrent]

50% off any unsubmerged items in the Bain Marie.

[tardy terrace]

[dreamy rose]

Deep fry. mm isn't KFC fried rat just delectable.

[tardy terrace]

ive watched too much food network to know what that is

thank you alton brown ♥

[tardy terrace]

I still get my mom bags of fish sticks, she loves them to bits

[small oasis]

i partially sustained myself by cooking rats over a fire when i was homeless. they're actually not that bad. just need at least 3 of them.

[tardy terrace]

I bet they're pretty fatty considering they're trash animals

[small oasis]

yeah.. not as bad as duck tho

[tardy terrace]

i value my cholesterol levels too much

[small oasis]

not as greasy

[manic torrent]

That is... Certainly a thing. Damn.

[tardy terrace]

Also ♥♥♥ for getting out of homelessness

proud of u

[dreamy rose]

she likes Fish sticks?

[small oasis]

well, i was like 12 at the time. it was either that or stay in a shitty foster home where ended up going to the ER every month.

[tardy terrace]

Don't make the stupid south park joke

[past egret]

its not stupid, its quite well thought out

[tardy terrace]

[dreamy rose]

i personally call them Fish Fingers

[small oasis]

south park is pretty great. i just saw an episode of it recently where Alexa was a holo companion and i was dying laughing

[manic torrent]

Ugh. I hate that this happens. We did foster care for over a decade and like.... Cared for the children in our care?

[tardy terrace]

It's almost like some adults care more about the paycheck than the quality of their job/care

[manic torrent]

Well, we got fuck all. It was like $200/fn

[tardy terrace]

I was never a foster tot so I can't speak for the hardships that those kids go through, but thank you for giving those you cared for a home ♥

[manic torrent]

That said, for some kids if they just gave that to the damn parents, the kids wouldn't have to be in care? It's pretty stupid.

[tardy terrace]

also $200/mo is basically the kid's food for the month, where's their clothing budget??

[manic torrent]

200 a fortnight. But yeah I have no idea what the actual spending was, although I know some foster carers spent only that money on them, and kept notes on it.

[tardy terrace]

A bane of my existence- parents who spend assistive funding on themselves instead of the family

[manic torrent]

The first child we cared for, a 5yo girl, she came to us as a "bad kid" but what do you know, with clear expectations and boundaries, and regular food, her reading ability went up several levels, she was a great kid, and much happier. She wanted to know if she could be a chicken doctor and a cat doctor.

[tardy terrace]

A chicken doctor god my heart

[shut violet]

The bane of my existence has been my wife's ex and his wife contradicting all the values she ever tried to instil upon her daughter as a working individual (whilst they live on benefits and are the sorts to just argue loudly with shop staff who have no control over what stock is available, as a mild example) - she moved in with them because they were "more fun" and they then were just mentally abusive to her, hugely

[manic torrent]

Her twin brother and her were sat down by their dad and they all watched an adult video. So, you know.

[shut violet]

and then she got kicked out by them once they stopped getting child benefit payments once she was too old

[tardy terrace]

This is predatory on some level.

[manic torrent]

Yeah my neighbours granddaughter is going through a similar thing, living with her alcoholic mother

[shut violet]

And now we're having the daily struggle of trying to get a 20 year old to see that earning her own way in life is a positive thing, but she is like "dont care, shouldn't need to, dad and tina don't need to"

[manic torrent]

Dad was all kinds of broken 😦 it was just sad all round. Single dad and just had no idea what he was doing. His parents abandoned him at 12.

[tardy terrace]

tbh I didn't get my shit together until I was about 24, so

[tardy terrace]

I retract my statement and insert a massive fucking :(

[shut violet]

Some people have no idea what their actions end up causing in their kids, it is so, so upsetting

[tardy terrace]

Poor guy, jeez

[manic torrent]

Yeah the thing is.... This is often the story with people. That's why it's a cycle.

[shut violet]

And to be clear, whilst we're struggling with my wife's daughter - we aren't screaming "GO GET A JOB YOU LAZY OAF" because technically, she isn't wrong, it's just a more restrictive way of life, so, hey ho. Lol

[tardy terrace]

Everyone deserves love & care :(

[shut violet]

and of course, abusive biological dad is still the best person in her life, so we just have to nod and bite our tongue each time something weird comes up because of what they did

[manic torrent]

Except for me! I don't deserve love! That only counts for other people

[manic torrent]

Yeah it's hard.

[tardy terrace]

No matter the age, the hardships, the past. People have a right to a respectful upbringing & a safe and nurturing environment

[unkempt widget]

why do i have access to floatplane chat

[tardy terrace]

twitch sub maybe?

[shut violet]

We've done the family counselling stuff etc - but it was obvious within a few weeks lies were being told during that so they got stopped, I carried on by myself as it's been a traumatic couple of years

[graceful burrow]

Maybe they let twitch subs in

[manic torrent]

What I learned is that a truly loving and caring parent is more important than housing stability, food stability etc etc

[unkempt widget]

no, i'm just joking because everyone here is floatplane

[graceful burrow]

Wait
They didnt
Cause I don't have it

[unkempt widget]

anyways, what is everyone talking about

[shut violet]

They do, and it'd also be nice if they weren't gas lit by negative/disgusting people into actually believing that to try and do good for yourself is a stupid/waste of time endeavour

but anyways, before I get too angry/preachy about abusive parents, i'll end my rant there

[graceful burrow]

Very sad things

[tardy terrace]

"I birthed you so now you owe me 18 years of labor & money"

[unkempt widget]

yeah it sounds like that

[manic torrent]

My parents are narcissists. My own mother poisoned me. I didn't realise until decades later. She said "why bother he'll be gone soon" about meeting one of our foster children.

[graceful burrow]

Ayo I might have thrown down right there

[tardy terrace]

with what holy fuck

where's your mom, I'll throw hands at a granny

[unkempt widget]

idk if i'm just being a rebellious teen or if my parents are just really annoying

[manic torrent]

It is actually bizarrely similar to Harry and Meghan. It's very similar culturally.

[manic torrent]

No reason it can't be both

[unkempt widget]

yeah, i'll go with it's both

[tardy terrace]

all teens are rebellious lmao

it's literally a massive pivotal point in pubescent growth

[manic torrent]

My dad wrote me a letter that said all my life decisions have been wrong, I should abandon my wife, pets, foster kid, and move to a new country and start over.

[unkempt widget]

my parents overheard me voice calling with a girl and now my dad has been talking to me about it

[tender plaza]

That is true. I thought i was just a rebellious teen until the government pulled me out of a toxic environement. Ask those who know your situation

[tardy terrace]

I'll throw hands at him, too. What's their retirement village?

[unkempt widget]

hmmm how do i phrase it

[shut violet]

I can almost guarantee my wife's kid will get that from her Dad at some point.

[manic torrent]

Last I read they are doing the grey nomad thing.

[unkempt widget]

my dad thinks i like her and he's been very excited because he really wants grandkids

[tardy terrace]

I'll be in queensland in 24 hours, the manhunt begins.

[manic torrent]

Honestly.... I'm just sad for them because they miss out on our son, who they have never met and who is the most awesome person in the whole world.

[tardy terrace]

awwWWWW my heaRT

[tardy terrace]

aw hell he vibin' hard

[unkempt widget]

why's that tv so high lol

[manic torrent]

No photos!

[graceful burrow]

I wish I could vibe out that hard

[manic torrent]

So it is safe from grabby little hands

[dull granite]

fuck the dad lmao

[unkempt widget]

wow

[tardy terrace]

me @ HWB's parents-

[manic torrent]

My mother blamed me for hot tea spilt on my brother when he was 6 weeks old. I was 18 months old.

[unkempt widget]

that is just stupid

[tardy terrace]

As are a lot of parents.

[manic torrent]

She also blamed me for ruining her career

[unkempt widget]

why the fuck did you even have hot tea when you're 18 months old

[manic torrent]

I didn't, it was my mother's. I have no idea how it happened, obviously

[unkempt widget]

ah right right

[dreamy rose]

they say you should listen to your parents. but it sounds like your parents have below room temp IQ so you dont listen.

[manic torrent]

But it was one of those narratives you never question until you do and then you realise it's crap

[manic torrent]

Not at all, that's why IQ doesn't mean shit.

[tiny saffron]

Blaming a baby for an mistake is the worst parenting mistake

[unkempt widget]

blaming your own kid in general is a mistake

[shut violet]

You can be highly functionally intelligent and still be an abuser

[tiny saffron]

EQ and IQ are 2 different things

[shut violet]

Most aren't of course, but they exist

[dreamy rose]

an 8 year old can be blamed for destroying a tablet.

[shut violet]

You still need to help a child learn that they are in control of their own actions and what is generally perceived to be a kind action/what is a cruel action, etc

[tardy terrace]

@manic torrent Are you able to explain the desire of wanting a specific gender of a child?

[manic torrent]

Yes and no. The thing is that it's more likely a combination of circumstances over years that led to that point

[unkempt widget]

right, but it shouldn't be about they broke it, but rather they should not do that again

[dreamy rose]

NEVER. not "not"

[manic torrent]

It's not that unusual, but people often want children to live their unfulfilled dreams.

[unkempt widget]

it's in the past, you can't do anything about something that has already happened

[tiny saffron]

At the end, you want the child to know the effect and cause, not just you tearing a new asshole into your own flesh and blood

[manic torrent]

Yeah nah. If an 8 year old is deliberately smashing a tablet, or showing a careless disregard, that's indicative of deeper issues that have nothing to do with the tablet.

[shut violet]

^ in our instances, it was due to the stuff "real dad" was doing in the background

The issue generally stemmed from him making her want him and her mother to get back together and that cause dangerous behaviour

[manic torrent]

People also feel they "own" their children, vs their children being inexperienced smaller humans that they need to care for and ensure they have opportunities

[shut violet]

Oh real dad treated my step daughter like a slave at his house

[tardy terrace]

I was gonna ask why some parents'd hate their children if they transition but that kinda just summed it up for me

[shut violet]

She was used as a baby sitter for his other 2 boys (one being called Kray, literally, named after the Kray Twins, I'm not making that up) from the age of 13/14 upwards

[dreamy rose]

Dagoth ur?

[tiny saffron]

Lot of parents get mad cause the desire to control

[unkempt widget]

my parents have literally told to my face that i have to listen to everything they say because i'm not an adult yet, jeez, at least keep out that part

[tiny saffron]

You're telling an individual with free mind to do something, it ain't and will never work out

[unkempt widget]

now i can't wait to become 18 and never hear from you guys again

[tardy terrace]

tell a 14 y/o "I control you" and see how that turns out a week later

[manic torrent]

Yeah because they are purely an extension of the parent, and by changing and owning their own identity, they are moving away from that in a way the parent can't reconcile. So fundamentally it's not a new problem - it's just made much more obvious by transition.

[unkempt widget]

apparently my parents didn't catch that memo

[dreamy rose]

i've been told that too. that they dont have to care about me and i have to care about them.

[tardy terrace]

at the times she thought I was doing [REDACTED] at girl's houses, nah they were letting me be me

[unkempt widget]

my dad especially, my sister (aka his daughter) literally ran away from him when she was 16 and stayed at a friends house for a few days

[manic torrent]

Young people will make bad choices. It's unavoidable. You just need to try and hope they can learn from them.

[unkempt widget]

and guess who he blames, my sister, even though my dad completely disregards her just because she's a girl

[tardy terrace]

And try to understand their point of view, why they did it, and how you can help them learn

[unkempt widget]

guess who hasn't talked to my dad for 4 years by this point

[dreamy rose]

my sister has done that a few times

[unkempt widget]

and guess who doesn't care because it's a daughter and not a son

[tiny saffron]

You gotta burn yourself a few times to know pain, but best to arm them with wisdom that helps them make better choices

[manic torrent]

Honestly any parent whose child doesn't talk to them.... Huge red flag.

[unkempt widget]

like how does he not catch a hint that he might not be a great parent and he should figure it out

[tardy terrace]

silent cackling
Ahaaa ha. Hahaha. Ah, that's funny.

[dreamy rose]

people are ignorant for a reason.

[unkempt widget]

and how does he not figure out that my sister said to his face that she doesn't see him as a father that maybe, just maybe, my dad did not treat my sister like his child

[manic torrent]

He doesn't care because misogyny.

[unkempt widget]

he doesn't care about his own grandson because it's from my sister

[tiny saffron]

When you keep lying to yourself, one day you will start to believe it

[manic torrent]

Oh for sure

[tardy terrace]

I see a lot of acts of children treated like "property" coming through my store. It's fucking disgusting.

[unkempt widget]

he's been pressuring me to have kids ever since i was 11

[shut violet]

Haha

[tardy terrace]

ELEVEN

[shut violet]

that is messed up

[tiny saffron]

Bro wtf💀

[dreamy rose]

i know that the hard way. always thought about options for hardware upgrades, done it for years. never happened

[manic torrent]

Uhhhhh. That's not ok

[tiny saffron]

My depressed ass rn knows that too well

[tardy terrace]

Alright hey mods can we get #public-chat renamed to #parental-abuse-discussion-hour

lots of us need this pls

[unkempt widget]

and according to him, i agreed with him that i was gonna have 5 children when i was really small

[dreamy rose]

[shut violet]

wtf

[unkempt widget]

and sure, he mostly says that as a joke, but still

[manic torrent]

Yeah, joke, uh huh.

[unkempt widget]

and he even offers to take care of them if i don't have enough time
like geez, out of the two kids you have, how many of them do you think were "successes"

[dreamy rose]

5 would be a nightmare. and i have a friend that has like 8 brothers and sisters.

[tardy terrace]

No, that's not a joke. He's repeatedly trying to hold you to that in a vain attempt to remain in control and be passive aggressive

[tiny saffron]

Yeah that's not a joke,or at least it's something not to joke about

[unkempt widget]

he makes really stupid "jokes"

[tardy terrace]

He sounds like a "really stupid joke"

[manic torrent]

I'm pretty sure my son is of lower value to my parents because he's adopted.

[dreamy rose]

and not stupid dad jokes. really dumb stupid jokes

[tardy terrace]

That's fucking pathetic, bob

it's good for 1080p gaming

[manic torrent]

Depends.... Does it come with family trauma?

[dreamy rose]

if itd all you can afford yeah. but its not gonna age well anymore.

[unkempt widget]

damn i got warshipped
anyways my dad has made some really weird jokes that are stuff that you shouldn't tell a child

[tardy terrace]

#pubchat after dark

[manic torrent]

:/ that is not good.

Jesus that's rough

[unkempt widget]

innuendos that are insert word that is banned

[dreamy rose]

is that like a shunt mod or smth

a card on heroin

[tardy terrace]

lmao using narcotics instead of pencil lead back on low-density pga's

The crack makes the overclock 50% faster after 8PM

[manic torrent]

I briefly used 420 to self medicate for a while.

[graceful burrow]

I use every day to self medicate

[dreamy rose]

smoke it every day

[unkempt widget]

back to that time when he overheard me voice calling a girl, right afterwards, he asked if i needed my id card so i can get a hotel room

[tardy terrace]

near 24/7 for me(legal state). Mild addiction but also self-medication, really helps add to the mask I throw on when I have to be in public

[brazen relic]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-weed-every-day-snoop-dogg-dancing-gif-14442220

[graceful burrow]

No self medication = self immolation

[serene viper]

hey guys

what mouse should i buy?

[graceful burrow]

G502

[manic torrent]

Yeah I just kept using more and then realised I was using too much and just stopped.

[manic torrent]

X

[tardy terrace]

I've certainly tapered back since I started working, i don't like working high as hell, I can't do my best

[brazen relic]

G502

[unkempt widget]

depends on budget

[manic torrent]

X

[tardy terrace]

x

[unkempt widget]

and personal preferences

[serene viper]

thanks gusy

[graceful burrow]

Anytime, bish

[unkempt widget]

also am i the only one who notices how a lot of parents guilt trip a lot?

[tardy terrace]

it's an "easy" control mechanism

Especially to those who don't understand what guilt tripping is

[dreamy rose]

mine try every day.

[brazen relic]

to the surprise of literally no one

[unkempt widget]

my dad always emphasizes that i don't know how to take care of myself at all, always referencing times when i lose stuff like jackets (even though that was mostly when i was below 13), and also telling me i can't "do my bed" or "do the laundry"
like excuse me, who the fuck is supposed to teach me how to do the laundry?

[tardy terrace]

Mine tries to make me feel bad when I take time off work because I'm feeling overstimulated & burnt out

[tiny saffron]

[unkempt widget]

you're blaming me for not knowing how to do the laundry, but you're the one who's supposed to teach me how to do it

[tiny saffron]

A whole bunch of parents jumped into parenting when they are clearly not ready for it

[unkempt widget]

it's almost as if he wants to tell me that i literally depend on them and i should never leave them

[tardy terrace]

"have a child, it's a great tax relief!"

[manic torrent]

Does he know how to do laundry?

[unkempt widget]

i think so? it's always my mom who does it, but it can't be that hard

[tiny saffron]

Older generation tends to just fuck and have a kid without too much thought

[shut violet]

I just need to say also - prepare for when, IF you do have children - no matter how perfect your stance is, you will still encounter issues where your child feels you're overbearing/controlling/cruel, etc.

[unkempt widget]

my mom started teaching me how to do it, but stuff happened that were out of her control

[shut violet]

And it will make you philosophical when it happens and you think "huh. Shit."

[manic torrent]

Especially in 2023. Literally.... Chuck your shit on the washer with some detergent, press go. Use the same "mixed" setting for everything... Close enough.

[unkempt widget]

my dad also always asks if i like him or my mom

[manic torrent]

Oh yeah - your child owes you nothing. You have to give freely.

[manic torrent]

Well, mom doesn't ask me to choose between you both......

[tiny saffron]

Mf I did not ask to be born💀

[tardy terrace]

And yet here you are, be thankful for your sentience.

[unkempt widget]

like who do you expect - you've been practically absent for 8 years of my life, and you've not done much to help me, my mom did most of the parenting

[tiny saffron]

I'm grateful, but i ain't your minion

[unkempt widget]

and where were you when you were absent? you claim to be working but you're actually cheating your ass off

[tiny saffron]

Lots of parents failed to realise that

[tardy terrace]

god i love unlisted therapy hour

[unkempt widget]

and the only reason why you and my mom are still together is you've been guilt tripping her

[tardy terrace]

y'all think I'm memeing but it's fantastic to vent this stuff

[manic torrent]

Also, the opinion of your child is worthwhile. They should have a voice.

[tardy terrace]

^

[unkempt widget]

you always ask my mom why she's always moody but you never look at yourself to blame

[manic torrent]

Oh no, it's important

[tiny saffron]

Just gonna say this, CPS is severely underfunded

[manic torrent]

Seriously.... Read "see what you made me do" by Jess hill. Like.... Really really.

[dull granite]

i hate parents who demonize kids who swear when talking to them

[mild current]

Overfunded in Australia

[manic torrent]

Looooooool

[unkempt widget]

you always tell me that whenever i cough because you smoke in the car, it makes you feel bad and that i should not cough

[dull granite]

like the kids swears for a reason because it will hit harder than other words, try to understand and not cry

[manic torrent]

... maybe don't fucking smoke

[tardy terrace]

Let it out starminor
Let. It. Out.

[unkempt widget]

you managed to get addicted to smoking after i was born, after you quit

and you're back at it

and you get offended when i tell him that it affects my health and your own

and you get even more offended when i tell you tar clogs up computer fans, when i decided my health is probably irrelevant to you

[mild current]

We need some type of mobilization here, but there's too much water around us and WA is too far

[unkempt widget]

you always say you love me and you will always do that, but you only say that, your actions don't prove that

[graceful burrow]

You're gonna have to extrapolate there

[manic torrent]

Yeah my dad's letter to me said he loved me. You don't say you love someone. You show them. They will already know.

[mild current]

Which part?

[manic torrent]

The thing is.... I believe that he loves me the best he can. It's just that's shit.

[unkempt widget]

you always tell me you care about me, but a simple thing like not deciding to start smoking again is too hard for you

[tardy terrace]

I have a song for this vibe-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX_tQgqvdi8

[tiny saffron]

Words can express love but it ain't gonna work when you're doing the opposite

[unkempt widget]

you always say you love me and my mom, but you decided that you got to bored and lonely with your mom and met with another woman, while gaslighting the hell out of my mom from it

why should i trust you on anything

[manic torrent]

Giving up smoking is hard. Not smoking around your kid because you care about them is not.

[tardy terrace]

Star's out here rapid dumping, this is raw..

[unkempt widget]

no, he already gave up smoking when he was in his 20s, he restarted it when i was 4

[tardy terrace]

I've got some warmed blankets & a drawer of snacks, just say the word

[tiny saffron]

Because having a bad childhood is one of the worst

[unkempt widget]

(he would be 40 at that point btw)

[manic torrent]

https://youtu.be/UrIiLvg58SY

[unkempt widget]

you gaslight my mom that you weren't domestically abusing her, and claiming that you didn't mean to hit that hard

[mild current]

Everyone here complaining about life will be dealt with soon enough

[manic torrent]

Yeah I'm just saying... He wouldn't have to quit to not smoke around you

[unkempt widget]

you always blame my mom for being to moody and crying too loud, even though you are the one who's causing all that misery for my mom

[graceful burrow]

I didn't mean to react I straight up dropped my phone on my face lol

[dreamy rose]

nobody should be smoking in general

[unkempt widget]

bruh

[manic torrent]

Oh, done that. Hurt myself sometimes.

[graceful burrow]

I'm self medicating don't blame me

[manic torrent]

... obviously yes.

[tiny saffron]

Lpt, lie sideways

[graceful burrow]

Make me

[unkempt widget]

i've done this in front of friends, i don't think i've gotten this emotional before though

[tiny saffron]

[unkempt widget]

that's not even the worst part, he's guilt tripping me into feeling bad that i cough whenever he smokes

[dreamy rose]

stop the🧢

[mild current]

Smoking is expensive here

[brazen relic]

bro, just lit something on fire, boom, free smoke

[tardy terrace]

I'm trying to taper off my nicotine levels w/ vaping

[brazen relic]

[graceful burrow]

Listen
It took a lot of courage to admit that
And you just throw it away, like it's nothing, like I'm lying

[tardy terrace]

its hard

[manic torrent]

So are profile pictures.

[unkempt widget]

you also guilt trip me about not willing to share cups, and you act like you're offended and sad about that

[tiny saffron]

Steal NFT as profile pic

[manic torrent]

Ooooof.

[unkempt widget]

i don't wanna drink your saliva

[tiny saffron]

Fucking ew

[unkempt widget]

you're out here acting as if you're the only one whose feelings matter

[tiny saffron]

I hate that, i really hate that

[mild current]

This is a disposable account, I'm just waiting to get banned

[graceful burrow]

And then you'll just make another?

[unkempt widget]

but you keep on making it sound like decisions are always made by my mom and me

[dreamy rose]

theres a button for that

[tiny saffron]

How about just follow the god damn rules

[mild current]

No, time for me to move on 😅

[tardy terrace]

I wish to violently meow into the night

[dreamy rose]

right click the server icon and hit the red button.

[unkempt widget]

you keep on guilt tripping me about not wanting to spend time with you, claiming that "i allowed you to do everything" and that means that i'm obligated to spend time with you

always telling me that you're very lenient on me

[mild current]

I'm talking about Discord

[unkempt widget]

and i get everything i want and you do everything i ask you to do

[tardy terrace]

Star, legit, keep going as long as you need to

[unkempt widget]

telling me that i'm somehow forced to be with you because of that

[dreamy rose]

ah. then go to the cog, and press the button with the red outline.

[unkempt widget]

you always tell me to not lie to you, which i guess is fair enough, but it's hypocritical and you do it all the time to me and my mom

not only do you lie, you twist the truth into your own version of a story and you try and force that one down my throat

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qp3ITVqY0

[graceful burrow]

No embed no watch it's that simple

[dreamy rose]

theres no Pacman in your name. THE PYRO IS A SPY!

[unkempt widget]

you always tell me you're very understanding and lenient

[full fossil]

yes

[mild current]

There's just so much wasted time on here, if Discord shut down tomorrow more shit would get done, like somebody in their mothers basement would get up and take the bins out or something.....

[shut violet]

o_0

[dreamy rose]

PYRO IS SPY!

[full fossil]

yes

[graceful burrow]

Well that's not true
We'd all migrate to different social media platforms and one would become dominant again just like discord is now

[tardy terrace]

You have never met an introvert goblin like myself. Hello!

[full fossil]

women?

[dreamy rose]

mmm mmm mm mm mm!

[unkempt widget]

you always guilt trip me into being forced to talk with you

[full fossil]

maybe

[unkempt widget]

because apparently you're sad that i'm not talking with you

which i guess is fair, but you should really try and find why that is you know?

[tardy terrace]

~double standards~

[mild current]

True, maybe the government should intervene

[unkempt widget]

you really need to stop and reflect

[dreamy rose]

that burning you feel? it is shame

[tardy terrace]

Nothing shameful about loving whoever

[full fossil]

yes

[unkempt widget]

you should've done that right after i told you at your face that i hate you for cheating on my mom, in fact, you should've done that after being found out, in fact, you should've stopped and reflected the moment you started having an affair

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

maybe you can outsmart me. maybe. but i have yet to meet one who can outsmart Bullet.

[unkempt widget]

how thick of a skull must you have to still somehow shift the blame

to not even admit you did something wrong because of your damn ego

[tardy terrace]

easy, shave down the firing pins

[unkempt widget]

you started blaming your own mother for telling my mom that you were cheating on your wife

and you forced me to never see my cousin ever again because he is on good terms with my grandmother

[dreamy rose]

wheres the anticheat for dating anyway?

[unkempt widget]

with complete disregard that he was the best friend i've ever had

with complete disregard to my emotions throughout the period of time when i had to move back to china

with complete disregard even after finding out i had suicidal thoughts

shit warship :(

[dreamy rose]

warship you ass let him rant

[tardy terrace]

^

[shut violet]

Warship is WAY too strict IMO

[unkempt widget]

telling me that only cowards have suicidal thoughts

[tardy terrace]

Warship isn't strict, this is a tech server afterall

[shut violet]

I don't engage in a lot of topics because it blocks some words which aren't slurs or swears, I CBA to risk typing several paragraphs and it get nuked because someone is easily offended 😂

[unkempt widget]

getting deeply offended and not even concerned when i told you straight in the face i didn't want to be born

[tardy terrace]

But right now, 3AM, it's vent hour.

[dreamy rose]

iys 1984 all over again

[unkempt widget]

because you don't actually care about my suicidal thoughts, you just want to see me being alive and being tied to you until you die

[dreamy rose]

really? its only nearly 8PM here

[tardy terrace]

PST baybee

[full fossil]

what are we talking abtt now?

[unkempt widget]

you pulled me away from my social group in vancouver, just to force me to move back here and like it

(here being china btw)

[tiny saffron]

Oof bruh

[unkempt widget]

you caused me to be socially awkward, into something that i might never recover from

and you still manage to make fun of my fear of socializing

[dreamy rose]

i'm mad i cant buy the Unova region sitting cuties plushies. i just want physical versions of THE FUZZ, USB C, Thundebolt. Grass Man, Scale and Shady.

[unkempt widget]

fuck it, i'm gonna eat now, i'm hungry

[graceful burrow]

Hungy

[full fossil]

i killed the entirety of sapienza in hitman 3 🙂

[tardy terrace]

I would be too after the amount of emotional uplifting you just did

[manic torrent]

haha, I killed every single human in the chongqing facility the other day

because I got spotted and started.... then just kept going

[gaunt widget]

I killed my old pc mouse wow

[full fossil]

i killed everyone on dubai

and hokkaido 🙂

[manic torrent]

chongqing is so easy to do sniper rifle suit only

[full fossil]

yeah

i once attempted to speedrun hitman

i got around 40 or something seconds on hokkaido and a minute and 30 on sapienza

[gleaming harbor]

damn i remember playing hokkido snow festival when it was free
grab thr butter knife hold the mouse wheel and bam elilmated

[full fossil]

yes

alos witch mission was the biggest pain in the ass for you?

[gleaming harbor]

nah i think i used cheats on that one cuz i hate stlealh games

[full fossil]

hitman is not quite stealth to me i just go the rambo way in and out

[gleaming harbor]

i think choking on that guy to get that gun and kill that target, sa

[full fossil]

More ugly unaffordable homes

[gleaming harbor]

damn almost a million pounds

[full fossil]

Starting from

[shut violet]

Don't live in London then

[full fossil]

For the 3 bed 1 bathroom

[graceful burrow]

Way ahead of you brother

[full fossil]

I have to live here for 3 more years till I go to the US

[graceful burrow]

Damn he just goin down and down

[shut violet]

That’s bad luck, more expense for you then

[mild elm]

Go live in Timor-Leste

[full fossil]

I just can't stand London, yet everywhere else in the UK is so different.

So the US it is.

[graceful burrow]

Sorry to hear

[full fossil]

Yes, the costs will be higher. I'll probably take a paid internship and hopefully that's enough to cover basic living plus the few benefits that I'll get from the British Government.