public-chat

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-embed-fail-nikocado-nikocado-fail-gif-21206120

[glass lantern]

Hey I used the GIF tab thing

[full fossil]

Become an elite human, duh

[glass lantern]

I press, it fail. discord Fail.

[full fossil]

Get floatplane

[glass lantern]

Na

[full fossil]

Get it now or I will send Anthony and luke to kidnap you and bring you to linus where you will be tourchered

[glass lantern]

Although you know the saying about throwing rocks in glass houses, if I also lived in certain parts of London I would pay for a similar service... so...

[polar atlas]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-ryzen-7-6800hs-512gb-ssd-16gb-ram-radeon-rx-6700s-win-11-open-box/16250993

Guys is this what he is talking about?

[stray apex]

Are the numbers the same

[polar atlas]

Idk that’s why I’m asking to make sure

[stray apex]

G14
6800hs
6700s

[polar atlas]

Is it the same thing he’s talkin abt

[stray apex]

Y'know, it'd be cool if AMD didn't use the exact same numbers for their CPU and GPU products

[polar atlas]

?

[long briar]

yep that

[polar atlas]

Alrihjt thanks

I’ll buy it rn

[long briar]

you might want to switch the WiFi card out at some point, the mediatek one it comes with works fine until you're like, on the go which the driver sometimes bugs out

if it's gonna be primarily at home or school it'll work ifne

[pliant leaf]

Wym the only weak video was the wii dev kit

[hard mirage]

Heads up y'all, TMobile announced a price hike for new customers.
Through the guise of new plans and basically a forced hotspot upgrade.

[pliant leaf]

exposing HP is always an automatic W, flipper zero was pretty good whole avoiding to get into the illegal shit, same for the android boxes though i would have liked them to show the malware in action

Like holy shit if you know that box is sending and recieving data from some IP address get some folks toghether and mail them a zip bomb through the TV, now THAT is content

[hard mirage]

Well showing the malware in action might require hooking it up to stuff, and right after a hack it's understandable they don't want to prod the devil

[summer folio]

Lulz, Mullvad VPN got Razziad but just said "No."

[hard mirage]

Also I think the point was made, don't even TRY it

[summer folio]

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/4/20/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-search-warrant-customer-data-not-compromised/

[tardy terrace]

New Labs idea- Viruses & malware lab

[hard mirage]

Uhhhh considering LTTs seeming lack of trained IT/ security right now I would say no

[tardy terrace]

Oh but what if they got john hammond to lead it

[hard mirage]

Isn't that like the top gear dude

[tardy terrace]

no

[hard mirage]

Ah

[tardy terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/@_JohnHammond

I love the malware analysis vids

[full fossil]

All my bills rose by 17.3% this year

Inflation rpi

[hard mirage]

'Inflation'

[last solstice]

eppic

[full fossil]

i wonder how gta6 will look like

will we ever see it?

[last solstice]

I still do not understnad how they can paywall hotspot

[full fossil]

yes

[hard mirage]

Wdym

[last solstice]

isnt hotspot like a mchanism in the phone itself ?

what does it have to do with the simcard

the only explanation is that they tell the phone to block hotspot

which means there has to be a way that you can bypass that no ?

[full fossil]

shold i flash windows on my usb?

10

[cerulean saffron]

phone becomes sort of a limited wifi router and allows devices to share that 1 mobile data connection between multiple devices

[cerulean saffron]

windows setup or a WindowsToGo install?

[full fossil]

just windoes 10

so i can boot up windows in school

[tardy terrace]

if their systems allow usb booting

[last solstice]

yea so it can be bypassed

[tardy terrace]

You're also still going to be on the school network, please don't do silly things

[full fossil]

i think they do i mean they are thease old ass systems that still run win7 and take ages to load google

[last solstice]

vpn ^^

[cerulean saffron]

yup you can. Rufus has a WindowsToGo option iirc. I myself have a full fat bootable windows USB on a 64GB SanDisk Extreme Go drive. I have all sorts of tools, backup/recovery software/etc that I might need whenever I have to fix my own PC from a different boot environment.

You'll have to go into BIOS (press F2 or DEL repeatedly when PC turns on) and change boot order to prioritize your USB first

[tardy terrace]

if the network admin hasn't blocked vpn traffic

[full fossil]

ok thank you i will experiment woth operating systems

[last solstice]

I hate vpn blockers F

[full fossil]

might put a linux os idk i already have a few of them

[tardy terrace]

you underestimate how far some of these school network admins will go.

[full fossil]

my school doesnt care

you can go on adult sites they have not blocked them

[tardy terrace]

🤨

[last solstice]

well I never really tested how far I can abuse the schools system cause Im not in school

but understandable'

[full fossil]

my friend went on there as a joke and it let her in

also thair network is easely hackable

[last solstice]

still dont do this though unless you want them to know what you are into

[full fossil]

as well as the web server

[full fossil]

lmao i dont watch adult content

[shut violet]

None at all?

[full fossil]

no

[last solstice]

just saying

[shut violet]

Are you ok?

[tardy terrace]

back when I was a junior in HS we had user accounts for everything, from windows credentials to wifi login portals. One thing that they didn't really hide for w/e reason in the CAD labs was the district's general storage server's IP. So dumbass me vpn'd in and tried putting my credentials to see if I could get anything.

[full fossil]

yes are you?

[tardy terrace]

Suffice it to say, no. The attempted logon was flagged and I had a chat w/ the IT admin the next day

[shut violet]

Hahahaha

[full fossil]

my school has a bruteforcable ssh port on their server LMAO

[tardy terrace]

I was not a smart teenager lmao

[last solstice]

my credentials

brooooo...

[tardy terrace]

very curious and hands-on, yes. But not smart.

[full fossil]

they asked me to check their security

[shut violet]

Did they? What were your findings?

[full fossil]

you to me orr?

[tardy terrace]

Did they ask you, or did you ask them

[full fossil]

they asked me

[shut violet]

And what were your findings?

[full fossil]

i was able to get in in like 2 mins so we changet the password and yeah now it doesnt anymore

at least it sholdnt idk i think i picked the one that wasnt in the rockyou file

but i know that they might have few more vulnrabilities

ehh fuck idc its not my server

[last solstice]

man ive been doing this thing where I like make a fresh web session and make a new identity from scratch.

like email. accounts. random ass social media

[full fossil]

that is fun o have also done that

[last solstice]

and then after the session ends I just start over again

[last solstice]

at some point it really is not fun TwT

all I know is that atleast its private af

[full fossil]

ehh yeah

also what do i do if my IT teacher doesnt know what she is talking about

i mean she doesnt even know what linux is

[last solstice]

just go along

its gona be over any way soo

[full fossil]

yeah you are right

[muted wind]

happy 420

[last solstice]

LMAO I JUST REALIZED

[full fossil]

thank you

[last solstice]

thank you for this lovely information goot sir

[full fossil]

what does 420 even mean i just hear it everyehere

[rancid bear]

Weed

[last solstice]

oo its weed day

[full fossil]

ohhh

[muted wind]

April 20 = 420

[full fossil]

no but what is your problem?

[rancid bear]

A lot of people here work in the IT sector

[shut violet]

I am and I work remotely

[full fossil]

depends

probobly remotly

[shut violet]

If you’re easily distracted it won’t work

[full fossil]

i cold see that it wold work better

[shut violet]

I love it. It isn’t for everyone - you need a separate work space from where you chill/game etc

[muted wind]

Otherwise it's too easy to get distracted?

[shut violet]

No, you need separation from your living space and your work space to prevent never stopping

[rancid bear]

Worth noting that IT in a bank, there's gonna be tons of red tape. You'll be doing a lot of the same work each day and you'll be limited in the options you have for troubleshooting, esp. if you're working remotely

[shut violet]

Or resenting your living space because you can always see your work area, etc

[muted wind]

Ah

[shut violet]

Whether you’re distracted or not is entirely down to your personality

[muted wind]

For me, I would do it anyways just cuz it's easier to stay organized when I dont have unrelated stuff mixed in my work stuff

[full fossil]

perhaps experiment

see what suits you better

[polar fern]

Linus can see what you’re doing and he is concerned

[full fossil]

drops lotion and toilet paper

ok i also need some reccomendations

so im soon off to highschool and i want to work in cybersecurity where shold i go?

ok i will check thease out

thank you

[spiral zodiac]

why do they never use a funnel when filling water loops

or better yet, a fitting with a bit of tubing, and a funnel. that way, you have some headroom for cycling the power and its a lot easier to fill with a funnel....

i've only ever built one real water loop and know to do it this way lol

and why not use an external power supply with the power connectors jumped so that way you dont have to cycle the main computer until the loop is filled.

[full fossil]

Water going everywhere

[rancid bear]

I work in cybersecurity. To say "there are a lot of options" is putting it mildly. I can't say I recommend a cybersec degree (I have one lol), they don't really reflect your average day to day stuff (mine taught mostly programming which is only useful to me in very specific circumstances at work). A lot of people do T1 helpdesk support, then transition into cybersec after getting a certification like Sec+ or CISSP

Unfortunately there's not really a "one size fits all" recommendation. Someone recommended programming concepts earlier, and while that can be very helpful it really depends on what you work on. Most of my team couldn't write a PowerShell script if their lives depended on it, yet they are extremely competent engineers

[hearty spear]

that would not have helped in this one

[spiral zodiac]

better yet, disconnect cpu/gpu/atx power, wire the atx connector to turn on the psu and pumps, so you can fill it all.

[hearty spear]

and again, on this one, that wouldn't have fixed it. (But it would have been a better idea overall)

[rancid bear]

I recommend finding the things that actually interest you, like an interest in networking/programming/configuration security. All things need to be secured at some point, so you can easily find yourself a niche

"Oh but it all interests me" yeah if you figure out how to solve that problem lemme know lmao

[hearty spear]

The Bykski thing was a great idea, and almost awesome execution, but instead, they fucked it all the hell up.

[spiral zodiac]

you never turn on your pc with an untested water loop that needs filling. you disconnect all the power and wire the psu to turn on with only the pump, you pressure test and fill the loop that way. i learned that back in uh...2012?

[fierce moth]

I found this old pc I had ages ago so I figured out a use for it

Plex and mc server

Cause that's what's my pi doing rn

But I'm incredibly ram and cpu limited with a pi

[muted wind]

One day, linus will find a way to water cool a water cooler. Pumps get water cooled, tubing gets water cooled, reservoir gets water cooled, fittings get water cooled

[spiral zodiac]

you generally dont need to water cool a pump

electric motors are extremely efficient, very little waste heat

[hearty spear]

the water in the pump cools the pump lol

[muted wind]

We must water cool the water

[real comet]

Anyone here uses citra emulator?

[hearty spear]

they did that, by hooking it up to the sink lol

[spiral zodiac]

nuclear power plants already do that

[tardy terrace]

which was insanely effective

[hearty spear]

just not cost effective lol

[tardy terrace]

oh absolutely not

[spiral zodiac]

the water thats cooling the reactor, is cooled by another water loop through heat exchanger, so that your radioactive water doesnt get near anything else lol

[hearty spear]

until there's an earthquake / tsunami

[muted wind]

So you're saying we need a nuclear powered pc

[tardy terrace]

Molten Salt Reactors

[spiral zodiac]

well its usually the pipes outside of the exchanger that leak and not the exchanger.

MSR's still have that same thing, you need a heat exchanger to boil water so that you can spin a turbine.

[tardy terrace]

oh i know, I was responding to the earthquake/tsunami bit

[spiral zodiac]

so yeah, finally got my switch going again, i havent used it in...probably close to a year

[full fossil]

Guys im going insane i swear

[spiral zodiac]

low SN/unpatched too lol

[full fossil]

So i bought a switch oled and i got bored of it
So i sold it

Then bought it a switch oled again because i wanted to play mario kart

Now i am bored again, should i sell it?

Idk what to do

[spiral zodiac]

send it off to get it modded

[muted wind]

My switch only gets used for splatoon and animal crossing, and its been collecting dust for a while now cuz splatoons netcode is absolute trash

[spiral zodiac]

then play whatever you want up to the ps1 era.

[full fossil]

Mine only for splatoon and mario kart 8

[spiral zodiac]

oled switches require an actual mod chip to modify them, while mine just requires an RCM jig and a pc.

[full fossil]

Im scared if i sell it that i will want one again

[spiral zodiac]

could just get a deck and emu the switch....

[hearty spear]

then don't

[spiral zodiac]

or a higher end portable pc and emu the switch

[hearty spear]

it's not like it's gonna take up a ton of space to hold onto it

[spiral zodiac]

there is the new asus thing coming up

[full fossil]

It kinda hurts seeing it not getting any play either

[hearty spear]

switch emu is still really hit or miss

[full fossil]

ugh im so confused

[spiral zodiac]

they're saying the rog ally is going to be about 850usd

but its pretty beefy for 850usd tbh.

[stray apex]

do you actually use the portable features of the switch
or do you just occasionally want to play nintendo exclusives

[spiral zodiac]

thats why i modded mine lol

i dont really need multiplayer, i'm more interested in single player games

[full fossil]

neither

Just playing mario kart and splatoon from time to time

But im kinda getting bored of those

[muted wind]

I think those 2 games count as nintendo exclusives

Using the Switch for its portability would be playing something like Hades- a game that you could easily run on a desktop PC, but choose to buy on the Switch instead cuz it's more portable

Of course, that's something that you also easily do on a steam deck for the same portability reasons

[full fossil]

Thing is, these two games are like sweets for me

I would want to play them but i dont feel the need to get up to play them

In this context to boot up the switch

[waxen mantle]

Well, well well

[full fossil]

Idk, what would you do if you were in my situation?

[muted wind]

Still, if the only reason you're keeping your Switch is for those 2 games, then teeechnically you're keeping the console for nintendo exclusives

[molten drift]

Why own a console for just 2 games

That's a bit backwards

[muted wind]

It was the same for wii u, to be fair

People ended up only playing splatoon and smash bros on that thing iirc lol

It would be a lot more compelling if first party games werent so fricken expensive tho

No one wants to drop 80 dollars a pop for a game that may or may not be worth it

Oh lets make it more fun: 80 dollars for the game, but also charge for a subscription to use online features

Oh lets make it even better better: charge for the online subscription, but make it so that online multiplayer is dogshit peer to peer connections on a console that originally doesnt even have an ethernet port

[full fossil]

Btw it took u long enough so i think u used ur moms number

I think im gonna buy a ps5

[lost quiver]

I have no mom

[full fossil]

L

[full fossil]

With the money from the switch

[full fossil]

I have a pc too

[muted wind]

Use the money to upgrade the pc

[full fossil]

So ur admiting ur under 13

Ok talk back in gutzy aiden i need ask u smth

Or moms number

[lost quiver]

My phone number is 2364568888

[full fossil]

lol dont do that

[muted wind]

I hope that's just a joke and you're not doxxing yourself

[near iron]

Eid Mubarak to all my Muslims though love you all

[full fossil]

guys can the stema deck even run cyberpunk 2077 or are they liyng?

[fluid ridge]

LOL

[fluid ridge]

battery life: 14 minutes
average fps: 19
thermals: surface of the sun

[full fossil]

graphics: POTATO
resolution: 1x1
crashes:yes

[fluid ridge]

also it's 4/20 today

[full fossil]

yes

finna test some OS

probs gonna flash windows

@full fossil please dont kill me

also i higly doubt that this "2tb flash drive" is acctualy 2tbs

[tardy terrace]

No, it isn't.

[full fossil]

yeah i know

anyways idc it was dirt cheap anyway

[fluid ridge]

you probably dont want to use it to hold any sensitive info

but flash drives nowadays are pretty replaceable with cloud storage

[long briar]

no…???

10 bucks for 128gb that I can keep forever

[full fossil]

10 bucks?

where

[long briar]

idk, amazon?

[full fossil]

aww we cant do that here

[long briar]

rip

I bought like 5 128gb microSD cards for photography, about 15cad each

[zenith agate]

Yo Where Do I Need To Go To Get Help Fixing Some Stupid Mistake I Did?(Software Fucked Up And I Cannot Change It Anymore)

[full fossil]

i mean we can if we pay 60 dollars for shipping

[long briar]

unfortunate

[full fossil]

what happend wich software?

[zenith agate]

I Accidentally Disabled Some Driver Setting Now I Cannot Turn It Back On

[full fossil]

wich setting?

[long briar]

oh just restart the pc OR find the device in "unknown devices" in device manager

[low rain]

My school on fire 🔥🔥🔥

[long briar]

wait nvm

[low rain]

Now I’m outside in the rain

[long briar]

not disabled devices right...?

[long briar]

congrats

[zenith agate]

Where Can I Post Screenshots?

[full fossil]

tech hat 1 or 2

[zenith agate]

Sure Thanks

[last solstice]

I wana ask gpt the essential questions

what does it mean to live

why does everyone have an online persona

is reality a simulation

[tardy terrace]

Because I literally cannot be a cat in physical reality.

[pure kelp]

Uh i was thinking of doing a custom rom , pixel ui with my redmi note 10 pro sweet any good youtube tutorials on that 💀 ?

[last solstice]

that is true I cannot be chikin either

[full fossil]

because im code

[misty scarab]

My current PC has a AMD Ryzentm 7 5800X3D CPU and a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition GPU

I was thinking about getting a new gpu, but i dunno what one to get
the AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT looks appealing and has been lowering in prices but I am unsure if I should go with something that isnt current gen

[full fossil]

why wold you need a new gpu?

[misty scarab]

More performance

[cerulean saffron]

is there any way to make OBS stop recording and give error message if screen is completely black? This dumb piece of @#$% updated and all my scenes went to a black screen no idea why, turning last 3 days of screen recordings into just black screen, useless.

[misty scarab]

My 3060 ti is not offering acceptable performance at 1440p

[full fossil]

for gameing?

[misty scarab]

As in i want to match my refresh rate without making games look potato

[bronze juniper]

Does Someone familiar with a problem on iphone where i can get into footplane through safari tho cant sing in, in the app?

[gilded quest]

Did you have a stroke

[bronze juniper]

I just singed up now

[full fossil]

but i have a 2060 and its compatible with 2k resolution

[gilded quest]

Uhhh

I wish I could help but I'm on Android

[misty scarab]

Compatible and acceptable performance are two different things

[full fossil]

has both

[misty scarab]

I want to match my refresh rate

[bronze juniper]

It says my accont isnt active on the app, but on safari it does work well

[gilded quest]

Did you create a floatplane.com account or did you sign in with LTT forum

[gilded quest]

Try chrome?

[bronze juniper]

Footplane account

[full fossil]

sell a kidney and buy a 4090

[misty scarab]

Not practical advice

[bronze juniper]

On the browsers it does work, the app is my problem

@fossil ether ,
Do you know anything about it? May i dm you to a screenshot of what happening

[neon zenith]

z490m gigabyte do i need rgb fusion 2.0 for the rgb to work or are there like any other software?

[full fossil]

guys this real?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004673252656.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.11d06a5fTDaKyF&algo_pvid=46de46a8-fb31-4cc7-8fbd-504d7f26b4e9&aem_p4p_detail=2023042013222517384047838031400001823200&algo_exp_id=46de46a8-fb31-4cc7-8fbd-504d7f26b4e9-0&pdp_npi=3%40dis!EUR!9.32!0.64!!!!!%40211bda9b16820221458942462d076c!12000030056803173!sea!HR!0&curPageLogUid=gywvQko0ZTiA&ad_pvid=2023042013222517384047838031400001823200_1&ad_pvid=2023042013222517384047838031400001823200_1

[long briar]

you can cut off the link after the?

like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004673252656.html

[full fossil]

oh ok sorry

[long briar]

uhm, I can't tell if it's real or not but it's not a good price regardless

[summer folio]

I bought my Corsair RM750x V2 new for 40$, now it costs 200$ in Sweden? Wtf

[mild elm]

Not real

[full fossil]

man usbs are expensive here

[distant wren]

how much is expensive?

[full fossil]

8 euros 32 gigs

[distant wren]

oh but imagine paying the 0,94 Euro and you get a non functioning piece of plastic 😄 Thats basically Ali express for you

[long briar]

I wouldn't pay more than 4 Cad for 8gb here LOL

[distant wren]

you get what you pay for. and definitly won't get 128 GB for 1 euro xD
That seems like a scam waiting to happen

[full fossil]

yeh you right

so i steal

[distant wren]

nah they steal your money and send you an empty shell 😄 without content

read the reviews and you understand 😄

[fluid ridge]

how else is aliexpress going to track your clicks and everything you do

[full fossil]

imma just rob the nearest tech store for usbs

[fluid ridge]

if you dont need the USB for flashing try using cloud storage

i think the cloud is a far better option than a USB tbh

of course there are still use cases for USBs but if you're storing your schoolwork and pictures try something like MEGA

[full fossil]

ok

[marble geyser]

But then the link loses the magic 🪄 sauce

[full fossil]

yes we need super long links

[latent cove]

oh god

i just found my grandpa's obituary

[fluid ridge]

yo you guys see spacex's thing exploded today

[marble geyser]

It's just an link, not a biggie.

[full fossil]

oh shit thay is an actual pearson

[full fossil]

thats what she said 😦

[marble geyser]

Let em suffer on pings then

[fading falcon]

Hi all

[full fossil]

hello

[waxen mantle]

hi

[glacial sand]

im back after my 7 day mute for saying political shit

god damn alot of stuff has happened in the 7 days. im running a roblox black market and im deploying tactics used by real businessmen for this shit

my head hurts

[dull granite]

RTX 4080 is kinda sucks value and is kinda bad tbh

[dull granite]

its bad just like when the demon of babylon disguises himself with the cloak of the righteous

[hollow pulsar]

Depends on what is defined as "value"

[low rain]

Holy shit, 3-0 and my friend scored 2 goals in like 3 minutes.

[rose turtle]

Used to give em out everywhere for free but as soon as I need them I can’t find em

[fluid ridge]

wait what? normally they just nuke the chat

you got muted for a whole ass week? thats tough

[glacial sand]

it was for "harrasing"

he confidentaly said something didnt back the source up and bitched to mods for harrasment

[long briar]

rule 14

ur gonna get muted again... be careful mate

[long briar]

it's a nuke if it gets out of hand + mute for whoever initiated it

[polar fern]

Lot of helicopters & GA craft aloft today.

[glass lantern]

I hadn't, but yeh it's not surprising, litterally commented on one of the animations of it that it would going to be significantly more explody IRL. As long as it didn't explode over the launchpad and take all that it tis fine, if they don't get it on the third try though it will be worrying.

so yeh basically I don't expect the second launch to go much better.

[polar fern]

Imagine if they were serious about LV development & located in an area where they could build a real launch facility.

[glass lantern]

they litterally had engines exploding on the way up

[near nymph]

Fun Fact. If you get hurt at LTX. Ambulance fees are about the same as the USA. 🤔

[polar fern]

They wanna put people on that thing. JFC

[near nymph]

[glass lantern]

Errr you do remember F9 didn't get a successful launch for it first 2 launches right?

[fluid ridge]

it succeeded its still in very early development

everything past the launch was just "icing on the cake"

[fossil frost]

no, they had engines flame out, not explode. although if you rewatch the launch, you will notice that just before the rocket starts to leave the ground, there are "extra" flashes of flame coming from somewhere that isnt the bottom of the rocket... which is probably the stage separation mechanism failing

[polar fern]

“Ah yes one ticket for the half gainer with a surprise ending launch”

Everything past the failure of a launch.

It was a huge failure.

[fluid ridge]

it's considered a success

[polar fern]

By who?

[fossil frost]

it was a partial success, since the rocket they launched today is already 2 versions out of date, and the entire point of the rocket today was to see if they could get the entire thing off the ground

they always planned to blow it up, just a bit later on in the flight

[fluid ridge]

the commentor said that today's test was just to see if it would launch, and everything beyond launch was just icing on the cake

[polar fern]

someone drives a brand-new car off the assembly line, and it falls apart and calls it a huge success. That’s basically what you’re doing..

Yeah, the commentator working for the company that launched the giant exploding failure

[fluid ridge]

not my words lol

[glass lantern]

It's considered a success because it didn't take out the launch infrastructure which is way more expensive than the rocket.

[fluid ridge]

they got what they came for

[fossil frost]

its closer to "the first prototype of a fully assembled new type of car didnt explode when you turn the keys, but, just stops working part way through its first test drive"

[long briar]

not quite, it'd be like testing a floating car and having the car float in the first placd

[polar fern]

It’s considered a success because it’s not a real company & never has been.

[long briar]

if it can actually go anywhere (without just collapsing) that's already progress

[fluid ridge]

??!?!?!?!??

[rustic hatch]

I am hype, absolutely hype, I nabbed a flipper zero before they went out of stock again

[polar fern]

Just look at the employee working conditions and literally how many ridiculous obvious failures they’ve had with their hardware. Some fascist creep pretending to be intelligent at the helm.. it’s all a bit morbid actually.

[fluid ridge]

alright bro i think that's enough

[fossil frost]

im separating my disdain for musk, from spacex, because, he has nothing to do with it really, he is just a hype man for himself and spacex helps him do that.. and based on KNOWING how technology is developed, and how it works, today was a success

[polar fern]

Uh k

[fossil frost]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions "Two Apollo missions were failures: a 1967 cabin fire killed the entire Apollo 1 crew during a ground test in preparation for what was to be the first crewed flight"

[glass lantern]

If the launch infrastructure had been lost yes I would agree it was a massive failure, even given that it's a test rocket still.

[fossil frost]

^^^ that... is a failure

[glass lantern]

but that was still not an unlikely outcome still

[fossil frost]

Soyuz 1 - failure, Soyuz 11 - failure...

[polar fern]

Y’all must have ordered the bulk vat of kool aid.

[glass lantern]

as said I wont be worried unless the the second and third flight fail.

[hollow pulsar]

Launching something into space, especially for the first time, is really, really difficult. Test flights, even if they "fail" according to the general public, can be an absolutely smashing win in other regards.

[fossil frost]

because those were all completed systems, fully tested, designed to work 100%... and still failed... starship is on its first version... designed to see if its even possible

[polar fern]

Spaces is a joke. A morbid joke.

[fossil frost]

no, some of us just know how to separate the art from the artist (even if musk isnt actually the artist and is just an arsehole)

[hollow pulsar]

Who died?

[polar fern]

and anyone defending their ongoing calamitous failure of an existence I really can’t take seriously.

[tardy terrace]

[thorny axle]

Pretty sure he said he sort of expected it to fail

[fossil frost]

i cant take anybody seriously who only deals in black and white reality and doesnt understand nuance and grey areas... but here we are..

[glass lantern]

and or the launch infrastructure is taken out

[thorny axle]

Though in that case, idk why he launched it

[fossil frost]

because the point was, to launch the already obsolete version of the complete assembly, to see if the concept is even possible, before you start to just put people on it without ever having fully tested it

[dawn anchor]

do you have like a whole server just for your home-grown emotes?

[glass lantern]

but SpaceX is building a second launch tower for a reason

[hollow pulsar]

In addition to what I said earlier, a "failed" test can be waaaay more valuable than a "successful" test.

[tardy terrace]

Pretty much, lmao. Makes it easy to remember names & server locations.
Me every morning-

[rustic hatch]

what should I do when I get my flipper

[fluid ridge]

change the gas prices

[fossil frost]

i made 1 change at work today, went from 0 failing tests, to over 2000 failing tests... was very very valuable to know that we have tests that absolutely KNOW that we cant fuck certain critical parts of our api 😄

[polar fern]

SpaceX is a long con. The fact that people are celebrating that the thing didn’t just explode on. The pad is beyond pathetic, and I’m sorry I’m not gonna speak about it anymore in here because frankly, my brain cells are worth more to me than that bit yeah defending a clear failure of systems integration and launch infrastructure tells me that you’ve got sucked into the con.

[fluid ridge]

transit you sound like you're coping and shitting on spacex for the sake of shitting on spacex i cant lie

[fossil frost]

feel free to start your own space craft company and do it better, since you seem to know how to do it

[tardy terrace]

now now, children

[rustic hatch]

absolutely

[hollow pulsar]

You understand development. There are some here who absolutely do not understand development. It's NOT a linear line of progression. It's a herd of cats moving in a general direction.

[tardy terrace]

pls behave

[glass lantern]

Dude they launched more than any other launch provided for a while now, if SpaceX is a joke then every other launch provider is a laughing stock.

[polar fern]

I don’t care what defence or excuse or reasoning you’re going to come up with it’s all a con job.

[rustic hatch]

I'm gonna buy a Wi-Fi devboard as soon as I can

[tardy terrace]

tbh elon should have just stuck with the space shit. The cars are neat, twitter is a hellscape

[fossil frost]

again, you are free to do better yourself... go and do it

[thorny axle]

I mean, give me 300 billion bucks

It’s not really a fair comparison

[fossil frost]

or, just apply to nasa, if you are smart enough to know better than spacex and nasa, they would jump at the chance to hire you

[thorny axle]

Plenty of billionaires make tons of idiotic choices

[polar fern]

Do better? ITS A CON JOB.

[thorny axle]

Elon is a particularly foolish example

[tardy terrace]

ANGY SOUNDS

[thorny axle]

“Mars: it’s a bit cold, but we can warm it up”

[thorny axle]

Only… we can’t

[hollow pulsar]

No. Make a space company that isn't a con job.

[tardy terrace]

don't raise your kids there

[thorny axle]

But I want them to have extra high doses of radiation

[polar fern]

The mars atmosphere is vanishingly thin.

[thorny axle]

The everything on mars is vanishingly thin

[tardy terrace]

Do none of you listen to Elton John

[topaz trail]

Any tech horders here

[fossil frost]

no, because his music is shit 🙂

[tardy terrace]

Oh you sweet summer child..

[topaz trail]

I wanna know where I can find plain motherboard boxes

[thorny axle]

Not particularly, no

[polar fern]

The fact that there can be dust storms is more a testament of how low the gravity is & how fine the particles are with such a thin atmosphere

If it was any thinner, we actually wouldn’t be able to use parachutes

[dawn anchor]

you've heard of Courier New
But have you seen this?

you can put color text in this box but idk how

[thorny axle]

Mars is definitely one of his worst ideas, up there with Twitter and his naming scheme of Teslas

[fluid ridge]

not with our current technology we cant

[polar fern]

I need one Plaid please.

[fossil frost]

yet human scale objects seem to drive around on mars just fine, even in that "low gravity"... gravity is about 1/3 of earth, but still enough to keep human scale objects on the ground.. and we know there is no atmosphere, and almost no, to no, magnetic field to stop an atmosphere from being lost to space...

[polar fern]

🤦‍♂️

[fluid ridge]

the tesla naming scheme is genius marketing

[thorny axle]

Elon lives in the current, not the future. Sorry that you’re under the Iron Man illusion

[thorny axle]

There’s really nothing we know of that can be done, not even in theory

[fossil frost]

you are talking to the sort of people who would have stopped in the cave, while others went to look what was on the other side of the valley, and when those who went to the other side of the valley found a better life and didnt come back, those who stay behind use that as "look, they all died... they never came back, we should never leave and never progress"... then get eaten by a bear

[polar fern]

The moon would be more sensible as it’s inert & bases can use the terrain for shielding

[dawn anchor]

I wish i could put a Spongebob Rainbow GIF here 😭

[fossil frost]

the sort of people who just complain about problems, but never actually do anything about them

[thorny axle]

^ basically the same benefits as mars, only it’s 100 times closer and has actually important resources

[fossil frost]

the sort of people who are monday morning quaterbacks...

[fluid ridge]

damn that kind of thinking kinda kills progress and innovation - imagine if the folks who developed bluetooth, wifi, the internet, computers, etc. thought "nah this is impossible lets just call it a day boys"

kinda pessimistic dont you think

[dawn anchor]

[thorny axle]

Godzilla had a stroke reading this and died

[fossil frost]

thats the sort of people you are talking to... pessimistic people with a victim complex

[polar fern]

Yes. You could also bring asteroids in orbit around the moon to mine them or use them as an anchor structure for long-range exploration.

[thorny axle]

Where are you going to get the atmosphere from

[fluid ridge]

we'll make one 😎

[thorny axle]

Yeah, from what

[fossil frost]

you dont have to fill the whole planet with an atmosphere, you do what you would do on the moon, keep it in the tube you live in

the same way we do on a plane now...

[fluid ridge]

i have faith in the progress of technology - the tools of today may be insufficient in our goals but they will help create the tools of tomorrow that can 🫡

[thorny axle]

Would you like to live in a plane your whole life?

Or really for any prolonged period of time?

[fossil frost]

nobody said anything about my whole life, a rocket has this great ability of being able to go somewhere ,then come back too

[polar fern]

I need better curtains. These succ at blocking light. Tv all washed out

[dawn anchor]

the reason i don't get my great ideas because i don't have a sponsor. i'm currently leeching $20-$50 a month from my aunt

usually even if i have the money my idea dies

[thorny axle]

Yeah, totally

[manic torrent]

not necessarily better - you can buy filtering curtains, block out curtains, etc.

[fluid ridge]

so true, if i was the president of the world the planet would basically be 100 thousand times better

[fossil frost]

and tbh, a prolong period of time? given a better density of people within the craft? yeah, wouldnt mind living there for a while... in the same way that the people do on the IIS, or in submarines... people do it all the time

[dawn anchor]

will you disable currency?

[manic torrent]

technically... rockets do not.

[thorny axle]

You would need to be there for at least about 3 years

[fluid ridge]

i will siphon all the currency to myself

[polar fern]

Yeah. These curtains are too sheer. More decorative than functional

[thorny axle]

And once you leave, you have no choice, you can’t just go back halfway there

[fossil frost]

ok... you think you are trying to talk me out of it... but you really are not

[dawn anchor]

you'll get hunted by SEALs soon enough

[fluid ridge]

i fear no seals, those guys cant even beat orcas how are they going to beat me

[thorny axle]

So you’re just being ignorant to the facts

[manic torrent]

how exactly would you "disable currency"

[fluid ridge]

finnegan is a technology denier

a non believer in progress

[glass lantern]

Dude if we are simply talking about basically any comment Elon has made about colonizing Mars as being Stoopid I can agree, like the idea of terraforming Mars is outrageously stupid if you comprehend the scale, and if you are having to live in a tin can anyway you might as well just build a rotating habitant inside a asteroid.

But to dismiss SpaceX because Elon says stupid things is stupid in an of it's self because SpaceX has proven it's self to be more capable than the traditional launch providers. for example F9, Dragon 2 which has less time and less money to develop a capsule vs Boeing's Starliner, but managed to get there capsule in use a whole year before Starliner had a successful test.

[dawn anchor]

technically, since the cold war was just 2 guys being scared of each other if you take out their weapons no one would be able to fight 😎

[fluid ridge]

the concept of computers would be unfathomable 100 years ago

[fossil frost]

not really.. im a believer in progress, and have an ability to adapt, and dont just stick to my comfort zone

[full fossil]

Is anyone here good with sound editing?

[polar fern]

There’s is a difference between progress and a personality cult

[thorny axle]

Progress and ridiculousness are different

[fluid ridge]

the unfathomable ideas of today are the technology of tomorrow 😎

[polar fern]

@full fossil what’s goin on?

[dawn anchor]

render them all useless and make the real currency backed by trading actual items instead of numbers.

just like the old days

[thorny axle]

He’s trying to use an abacus to make Minecraft

[full fossil]

I'm trying ti fix some popping on my audio in Audition and idk how to get the saves to match up

[fossil frost]

some people call doing a triathlon for 14 hours "ridiculousness" or "stupid" or "impossible"... but what they really mean is "not something i would do myself personally... but im too closed minded to know that its just me who doesnt want to do it"

[manic torrent]

yeah so you're still having currency, you're just changing it. I'm not against this per se - but "disable" is 100% the wrong word

[full fossil]

i posted a photo in tech 2

[fluid ridge]

it will definitely take time - might not be in our lifetimes, might not be in our kid's lifetimes, but i have faith it will happen

[thorny axle]

Of course it will happen, no crap

[dawn anchor]

people used minecraft to make a pc that runs slower than an intel 4004, and also to make minecraft inception.

[polar fern]

#audio-tech & #1027757333117415424 might help?

[manic torrent]

we'll be lucky if we last that long

[fluid ridge]

well glad we agree

[fluid ridge]

surely we will

[thorny axle]

Just now is not the time

[fluid ridge]

gotta start somewhere pal

[thorny axle]

You’re starting too early

[fluid ridge]

the early bird gets the worm

[thorny axle]

He’s trying to discover America before we developed boats

[dawn anchor]

instead of gold being put in bars and on people's fingers we can use it as CPU pins! 😲

[fluid ridge]

cant let those aliens get to mars before we do

[full fossil]

haha didn't see that thanks

[thorny axle]

…

[manic torrent]

... but it already is?

[thorny axle]

So you’re a troll

[dawn anchor]

well some to think of it, if we start another cold war they're gonna develop even more rockets!!!

[fluid ridge]

are you going to tell me you dont believe in aliens

[fossil frost]

they are already there, but we need to catch them up so we can get elvis back

[polar fern]

Imagine putting stock into a fascist con artists con job & not actual real technology and vehicles that exist and actually work. Hell of a thing to witness.

[fluid ridge]

so true, which is why i propose a 400% increase in space force funding

[dawn anchor]

386s and 486s contain more gold in their than in an entire PC nowadays I was informed

[fossil frost]

we will get there are realise that he didnt leave by force... he didnt die... he just wanted to go home

[polar fern]

Their pins were like 90% gold

[fluid ridge]

truly a tragic story

[manic torrent]

yes? so what?

[thorny axle]

I’m telling you you’re being stupid enough that it makes more sense that you’re a troll

[manic torrent]

he's not a troll as such, he's an idiot

[thorny axle]

I’m being optimistic

[fluid ridge]

absolutely incorrect

[thorny axle]

And perhaps ignorant of the more common truth

[fluid ridge]

you are just coping about the capabilities of humanity

[dawn anchor]

if diamond has the highest thermal conductivity, when is the diamond CPu cooler coming? uncut diamond costs 10% that of cut diamond

[thorny axle]

That’s you

Fortunately, you’ve already said you, thanks

[fluid ridge]

average ultra pessimist non believer - if everyone thought like you we would be living in villages manually plowing fields with cows still

[dawn anchor]

they have diamond paste already which you can just crush up and put into paste

i mean diamond drill bits don't cost more than $20

[full fossil]

so I got a old cpu I used till like december 2023 thats Q6600 quad core and could I delid it? without any tools?

[tardy terrace]

What is happening I look away for 2 minutes-

[thorny axle]

We would be investing in fixing climate change, not going to a planet we can’t even inhabit

[fluid ridge]

could you imagine JFK being like "nah the apollo mission is impossible, lets cancel that shit"

[manic torrent]

the highest? by how much? do you know the cost differential? Has anyone tested it?

[dawn anchor]

you live in the FUTURE!!!

[fluid ridge]

we are already fixing climate change

there has been more focus and discussion on climate change than any other point in history

[full fossil]

what

[manic torrent]

and other lies you can tell yourself

[dawn anchor]

https://youtu.be/a9HbzTQaTlE\

[manic torrent]

this is true.

[fossil frost]

some people are trying to fix it, some people are ignoring it, and some people are actively making it worse, for money

[fluid ridge]

?!? climate change has literally never been more in the spotlight

[glass lantern]

I believe aliens almost certainly exist somewhere in the universe and maybe somewhere in the galaxy, but that they have visited us on a regular occsion butt probing people... na.

[full fossil]

can I make 30 dollars with that, need some 8gb ram module

[thorny axle]

There has been more worry from climate change than any other time in history

[manic torrent]

yes. this is true. it's also true that SFA is being done.

[fossil frost]

it being in the spotlight, and people actually doing something about it... are two different things

[manic torrent]

Hell, germany turned it's nuclear power off, in the stupidest move ever

[dawn anchor]

this is ten years old and swept under the radar https://youtu.be/IJaEf3Tb00c

[fluid ridge]

germany doesnt want to get chernobyl'd or fukushima'd

[polar fern]

“We are already fixing climate change” breh. No. What reality are you plugged into?

[fluid ridge]

working on it at least

[fossil frost]

nuclear is a bad word, everyone should have just renamed their nuclear plants to fission plants

[thorny axle]

Not a reasonable concern

[fluid ridge]

the paris accords, COP, the kyoto protocol, the montreal protocol, yada yada

[tardy terrace]

Are those carbon capture programs actually feasible?

[manic torrent]

not at all, it's simply "nukular bad"

[polar fern]

No. It’s accelerating & there’s more carbon and methane emissions than ever

[fossil frost]

no

[fluid ridge]

i thought they decided to shut them off after the 2011 fukushima disaster and deemed the risk too high

[fossil frost]

no. it was just cheaper to buy russian gas and burn that, than it was to run their nuclear plants

[manic torrent]

except that the risk isn't too high, particularly because - germany isn't japan

[fluid ridge]

and i agree this is a very stupid decision

[tardy terrace]

...Why has nobody ever built a nuclear reactor in a mountain?

[fluid ridge]

oh

[manic torrent]

because it is hard.

[tardy terrace]

But is it smart?

[fossil frost]

building it? or.. the mountain its self?

[thorny axle]

There’s been like 2 big incidents in history, and they are far less dangerous than other sources

[polar fern]

What happened at Chernobyl would’ve been unique to Russia, because of the reactor designs, and what happened at Fukushima happen, because their nuclear plant was on the coast of a country prone to tsunami. Germany, switching off its nuclear power plants, had nothing to do with any of that. It was an idiotic, knee-jerk reaction to a issue that could not have happened in a landlocked country with newer reactors.

[thorny axle]

Not really

[dawn anchor]

i'd assume high elevation/slope angle? probably be too hard for a foundation maybe and mountains look way cooler without a giant smokestack coming out of it

[thorny axle]

Nuclear power plants store waste in pools outside the reactor

[fossil frost]

not just the reactor design, it was the shear incompetence of those in charge too

[tardy terrace]

nono, in a mountain

[dawn anchor]

in a volcano?

[thorny axle]

Putting the waste there is super expensive and people would get angry

[tardy terrace]

[thorny axle]

Nuclear waste is radioactive for like 40,000 years, and we need to put it somewhere

[fossil frost]

we could use musk's rockets to fire the waste water into the sun?

[thorny axle]

He’s saying put it in a mountain

[fossil frost]

im saying put it in the sun...

[thorny axle]

Stupid idea

[tardy terrace]

Put the reactor in the mountain

[thorny axle]

Where do you put the waste

[fossil frost]

put the reactor in the sun?

[glass lantern]

Forgetting that chernobyl happened because they didn't have a pressure vessel which every other reactor in the world had which would have prevented a radiation leak and that they built it stupidly in other ways as well and that they violated the procedures for the power plant because the engineers knew that it was badly designed.

Fukushima happened because of a tsunami that killed over 100,000 people, how many tsunamis has Germany ever had?

[polar fern]

Gen 4 reactors will be far safer and far less of an issue with nuclear waste because they can run hotter and therefore produce fewer extremely dangerous isotopes.

[stray apex]

fukushima also happened because the power company ignored reports that the reactor was probably unsafe

[thorny axle]

It’s a huge amount of work to put the waste in the sun; you need to remove all the velocity, which is a tremendous amount of energy (less than it takes to launch it out of the solar system). It’s incredibly expensive too, way too expensive to ever consider. It’s also just not safe enough, we can’t have rockets blowing up with them ever, not once in 100, 1000, 10,000, it has to be insanely rare

[dawn anchor]

i was informed my purchase of case fans would arrive today, but it's been six hours later than usual

[fossil frost]

i know, im taking the piss... i shouldnt have had to have said that

[polar fern]

The human body has actually evolved with uranium background radiation in the environment. It’s the isotopes in the spent fuel which are the real issue.

[fossil frost]

it would be easier to fire the rocket into the depths of space, aiming at exactly nowhere... then it would be to get it to hit the sun

[polar fern]

Plutonium, especially since plutonium is not naturally occurring

[fossil frost]

in fact... it would be easier to get it to hit another star, than it would be to hit our own

[tardy terrace]

Where do other reactor facilities put the waste?

[thorny axle]

Fusion reactors will be far far far safer and more efficient and product almost none

[long briar]

into the ground

[stray apex]

(if we ever get them to work)

[tardy terrace]

Sarcasm.

[polar fern]

Yes, I’m aware, but we are still working on that

[thorny axle]

In pools outside the reactor

[manic torrent]

it's actually cheaper to yeet waste out of the solar system than it is to yeet it into the sun

[thorny axle]

Eh, we probably will in our lifetimes

[thorny axle]

I said that in the message

[fossil frost]

but right now, they use more power than they produce, so they are a failure, so why bother?

[polar fern]

Typically, they store the spent fuel in cooling pools in the reactor building until the rods are cool enough to transport to a long-term storage facility or a re-manufacturing facility

[tardy terrace]

See here's the thing, there's this really, really neat concept called material transportation that we can do with, get this- Vehicles on roads

[glass lantern]

They actually had plans to increase the wall height I believe, but it also probably wouldn't have stopped it, having the generators in the basement when one of your primary ways the reactor could be damaged is loss of power due to a tsunami, also probably not a good idea.

[thorny axle]

What happens if one gets in a car accident

[polar fern]

There is a place I think in California that has open air fuel cooling, but I forget where that is

[stray apex]

yes, it turns out the design was poor and should have been fixed

[thorny axle]

You have the bad, so you need to be extremely careful moving it

[stray apex]

people move nuclear weapons around all the time

[tardy terrace]

We do it all the time!

[glass lantern]

Erm as far as I am aware the only issue was the wall height.

[fossil frost]

nuclear weapons are not nuclear waste

[stray apex]

hazardous materials transport is hardly some unexplored science

[tardy terrace]

^

[stray apex]

yes, they're nuclear materials surrounded by conventional high explosives, which is clearly much safer

[thorny axle]

Materials that can make the area toxic for 40,000 years is something we don’t like moving, so they just store them onsite

[polar fern]

The tsunami triggered by the earthquake in March 2011 would’ve topped over most seawalls and it did

[tardy terrace]

ok and how do you think we get this material to long-term storage where we bury it

[stray apex]

they store them onsite because NIMBY's don't want us to build final nuclear waste storage facilities in the middle of the desert

[thorny axle]

We often just leave them in pools

[fossil frost]

and you could literally shoot one with a gun, or drop it out of a space ship and have it hit the ground, and other than making a hole in it, or, pile driving into a pancake... they wont blow and cause a thermonuclear blast, because thats not how the chain reaction works... it has to be very controlled and blown up in a very specific way

[polar fern]

Fun fact: “the middle of the desert” is still a living ecosystem

[glass lantern]

to be fair though they a built not to go off, for example the US accidently dropped a nuclear bomb on there own turf and it didn't go off.

[stray apex]

that doesn't matter
if the high explosives go off
you're still spreading radioactive material in a wider radius than you would otherwise

[glass lantern]

like I mean from 35k feet

[fossil frost]

there are still 2 on the sea floor just off California that they cant find

[thorny axle]

It did come very close though

[polar fern]

uranium is incredibly dense and very heavy for its size, so likely what has happened is it has sank through the sediment down to the rock below and will never be found

[manic torrent]

uhhhhh

if only people knew what was in nuclear waste and how to store it

[stray apex]

isn't finland already building long term storage sites?

[tardy terrace]

[night heron]

i store the nuclear waste

[polar fern]

Plus those nuclear bombs weigh like a ton and a half.

[stray apex]

I think they dug one into a mountain or something

[fossil frost]

finn and transit seem to think they are smarter than the people at nasa and literal rocket scientists, so they should know best, ask them 🙂

[glass lantern]

Erm should point out though just because a nuke doesn't go off and isn't even particularly radioactive, like plutonium which is what bombs are actually made of is stupidly stupidly poisonous.

[thorny axle]

I only think I’m smarter than musk

[polar fern]

It’s not about smart, it’s just about knowing information.

people are allowed to learn information. Shocking revelation I know.

[thorny axle]

And most of musk’s mars supporters

[tardy terrace]

There isn't a whole lot of nuclear material in a nuke itself.

[glass lantern]

like 1 milligram of plutonium will kill you

[manic torrent]

it's like... two handfuls

[polar fern]

It’s a spicy grapefruit

[glass lantern]

that is from toxitiy not radiation btw.

[fossil frost]

musk doesnt do anything at spacex other than act as a hype man, he has no involvement with the running of it... but you seem to think he does, and you didnt complain about musk, you complained about spacex and called the test a failure and both of you claimed you knew better... so yes... you claimed you knew better than literal rocket scientists ...

[thorny axle]

Pretty sure high level waste can degrade stainless steel, that’s what the rear problem is

[polar fern]

Plutonium is not found in nature therefore, we have no natural defence against it through evolution

[tardy terrace]

it's pretty rad we use concrete & lead, then
Also y'know, neutron absorbers

[thorny axle]

I seem to think he is the one who started it, and I think that he is the one who initiated the big mars hype, that’s what I think is stupid

[thorny axle]

Rockets fail all the time

[slate agate]

the US is missing six nukes it has lost over the years

the soviets/russia probably more then a few in subs that have sunk

[fossil frost]

he bought a company and renamed it... other people who actually know what they are doing, run it and come up with what they are doing.. and the whole mars mission came from nasa

thats why nasa are pumping money into spacex and starship... because its THEIR project

[polar fern]

@thorny axle imagine launching a car into space to get investors and then having your big day and the rocket explodes and nearly destroy the launchpad but “huge success”.

[tardy terrace]

lets see that grain silo fucking flyyyy

[manic torrent]

that's literally how rocket science works

[fossil frost]

its so fun to see spineless people back down from things everyone saw them say... you said it, just own up to it

[stray apex]

well
usually in rocket science it's preferable to avoid rockets exploding when you don't want them to

[fossil frost]

finn and transit know better than that though... they think that the first flight should have carried people to mars, and back, and found elvis on the way back

[tardy terrace]

Here's an excellent guide on how to learn the hardships of rocket science-
Play Kerbal Space Program

[polar fern]

reminds me of Nikolai Ceausescu or Kim Il Sung. 😬

[manic torrent]

it is preferable of course, but it's hard to avoid entirely

[thorny axle]

Pretty sure those don’t do perfectly against it either

They prevent radiation, sure, but will they last 40,000 years?

[manic torrent]

nothing is perfect, go eat a banana

[tardy terrace]

for the armchair scientist stuff I've seen in this channel the last 20 minutes, it'll do

[olive saffron]

You only need it to do enough

you are exposed to all kinds of radiations every day

[thorny axle]

By “not perfectly,” I mean we need to start thinking again

[slate agate]

shame project HARP didn't work out, the inventor of that wanted it to launch satellites into orbit cheaply

by firing them out of a giant 16 inch gun

[thorny axle]

I mean, rockets fail

[slate agate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP

[polar fern]

@manic torrent radiation & clone disease.

[tardy terrace]

Oh wait I read your reply wrong & didn't check the message you replied to

[thorny axle]

Not like nasa hasn’t had plenty of failures

[polar fern]

NASA perfect.

10/10 mission success

[thorny axle]

The rocket launch itself wasn’t a failure, I just think the idea of trying to start a “mars base” is a poor choice

[olive saffron]

oh my god, a launch that is probably gonna fail failed

[manic torrent]

wtf clone disease? literally the top hit for clone disease is a translated crohns disease study

[thorny axle]

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20190002705

[polar fern]

@manic torrent https://www.bonappetit.com/story/banana-fungus-monoculture-extinction

Bananas are all clones.

[glass lantern]

They don't need to last 40k years the material is about as safe as when you dug it up after about 10k years

[manic torrent]

...... I'm familiar with bananas, yes

bananas are not clones. That's not what clone means.

[thorny axle]

Yeah, so it just needs to last 10k years. Same point again

[polar fern]

Because all of the plants are clones, they are extremely vulnerable to this fungus because none of them are genetically diverse

[manic torrent]

I also completely fail to see what this has to do with nuclear power, weapons, or radiation.

[manic torrent]

yes. I know all of this.

[glass lantern]

Well there is a plan to vitrify it as a glass so it wont leak ever.

[polar fern]

Bananas soak up radiation from the soil, and they’re also starting to be impacted by the fungus on a mass scale

[olive saffron]

like ok, banana contains a extraordinarily small amount of potassium

[thorny axle]

That sounds a bit better. As I said, we need to start thinking again is the level

[olive saffron]

??????

[manic torrent]

'clone' implies human cloning. Propagation of plants through cutting is not 'cloning'

[olive saffron]

im sorry this is not how it works

[polar fern]

They are literally genetically identical, every single one of them - they are cloned.

[manic torrent]

literally everything soaks up radiation from soil. that's not why bananas are radioactive.

[olive saffron]

while yes they are the same kind, disease does not magically spread, you need a medium

like all humans are pretty close to identical, when ebola happened i dont magically get it

[manic torrent]

no, the point is valid, and it happened before.

the bananas of today are not the same as the bananas of the 70s and before. They were wiped out.

[glass lantern]

To be fair though I think the real solution is to go for breeder reactors as they can use nuclear waste as there fuel to generate 20x more enegy than they orignally did in a burner reactor, and because you will have fissioned all of the transuranic it's safe after like 300 years

[olive saffron]

yes, but disease does not spread without a medium

[thorny axle]

Yeah, now you have weapons-grade materials?

[stray apex]

good, now we can get defense funding

[thorny axle]

Seriously

[stray apex]

hey, reactors aren't free

[olive saffron]

now we get the big money, so we can build and rnd more

[thorny axle]

Honestly, I just hope fusion is developed before the shit really hits the fan

Because it’s not far off

[manic torrent]

you can think that, but literally nobody uses it that way

[olive saffron]

Fusion wont be in service for at least another 20 something years

[thorny axle]

Probably. Hopefully that’s soon enough

[olive saffron]

At least I personally dont think so

[glass lantern]

Eh there are molten salt fuelled designs where you can fuel it with a mix of nuclear waste and plutonium as start up fuel and your feed fuel is uranium and nuclear waste, and that plutonium mixed with nuclear waste is useless for making bombs out of because the effort entailed would just make it easier to make a reactor specifically designed to make plutonium

[thorny axle]

Really can’t say much more than that

[stray apex]

we'll probably get most of our energy from renewables before we manage to get fusion working

[wind pulsar]

Not that it matters anyway, the Potassium-K40 inside bananas is insignificant even compared to background radiation we're exposed to anyway

[stray apex]

battery and renewable tech is advancing way faster than fusion research

since there's actual commercial applications for them already

[thorny axle]

Ah yes, Solar, perfect. And just have tremendous amounts of plastic waste every 25 years

[manic torrent]

which is the point of the banana comparison - to show that some radiation is normal

[thorny axle]

(Inspiration from California pushing for Solar)

[stray apex]

sure?
still better, cheaper and much more proven than fusion

[thorny axle]

Worse, cheaper, and more proven*

[manic torrent]

yeah, all solar is solar panels /s

[stray apex]

solar shits on fusion power right now, and for the forseeable future

[thorny axle]

That’s great in practice, but how is it in theory?

[glass lantern]

The issue is energy storage

[stuck stratus]

the plastic waste would be negligible compared to other power sources

[stray apex]

that's not an issue, battery advancement is both profitable and useful

[wind pulsar]

Well duh, it can be worse all it wants, if it's cheap to implement it has its value

[thorny axle]

Yeah, Fusion definitely has waste greater than solar

[glass lantern]

Erm you know if we took all the batteries we have from everything there is like minutes worth of power...

batteries are not getting THAT much better

[thorny axle]

Now you just need to solve the great problem of plastic waste

[stray apex]

we're already developing industrial-scale energy storage

[manic torrent]

There are quite a few different energy storage techs

[wind pulsar]

Not going to happen in our lifetime, deal with it

[thorny axle]

How long do they last?

[glass lantern]

Yes maybe we get to an hour

[stray apex]

currently, massive heat batteries are being deployed for steel production

[thorny axle]

You never know

[glass lantern]

but like we need months worth of energy storage

[manic torrent]

which is a lot.

[stray apex]

it won't replace energy input, but it'll help stabilize energy input into critical manufacturing steps and reduce costs

[manic torrent]

incorrect.

[glass lantern]

No winter

[stuck stratus]

best solution to energy is to not put all our eggs in one basket and diversify our energy sources, because fossil fuels being so hard to replace is a result of not doing that

[wind pulsar]

Nup, I do know. That's not something you fix within 100 years

[thorny axle]

Best solution is to invest in the best solution as much as we can

[olive saffron]

Not the actual "this can power up a whole damn city" level of batts

[long briar]

fossil fuels being so hard to replace is because it's cheap and was very very readily available, and could be easily scaled to meet higher demands when needed

[thorny axle]

You definitely know the future, 100%. Sorry god, but stop lying to yourself

[stray apex]

so?

[long briar]

building out any other infrastructure would've taken more time for less gain

[olive saffron]

solar still have quite a long way to go

[stuck stratus]

it's only cheap because it has a shitload of subsidized infrastructure

[long briar]

yes

[stray apex]

how are you going to argue that renewables and battery tech isn't good enough while defending fusion

[thorny axle]

^
And the reason for needing to be replaced is waste, not “putting our eggs in one basket.” By your logic, we should keep fossil fuels.

[long briar]

I italicized "was"

[thorny axle]

Sure, I think it is, just not as the ultimate solution

[wind pulsar]

Having a 193 countries and its thousands of companies work together to not throw plastics everywhere and getting billions of people to not do it is not something you do within 100 years, cope

[long briar]

it's obv not great for the environment, but neither is nuclear

[olive saffron]

it is not good enough because it is not good enough, and fusion still have a long way to go as well

[glass lantern]

Winter and sometimes the wind blows less, okay the output isn't going to be 0, but like 50% so you would need like a month if you were just going to rely on Solar and wind to make sure that you just don't go without power for weeks at a time during winter.

[long briar]

renewable also wear out over time

[stuck stratus]

it wouldn't be the worst idea to keep a small amount of fossils fuels in use where it's viable

[stray apex]

so?
research and development into renewables and batteries are constant

[thorny axle]

… I’m not hearing this correctly, am I?

[long briar]

Nobody says remove fossil fuels, just reduce the reliance on it

[olive saffron]

Same goes with Fusion

We are pouring billions into Fusion R&D as well

[full fossil]

how would I go about delidding a Q6600?

[stray apex]

no, fusion research is wildly expensive and entirely academic

[long briar]

you don't, it's soldered

[thorny axle]

Solar is a great intermediate step to fusion

[stray apex]

there is currently no commercial application for fusion

[manic torrent]

first, go to the museum

[long briar]

if you must, toss it into the oven

[full fossil]

I literally used a Q6600 till last year december

[long briar]

throw it across the street then get something newer

[olive saffron]

Does Nukes count as a commercial application?

[manic torrent]

if only there was a way to just combine power output from disparate sources

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, fossil fuel isn't your archenemy, we're just using way too much of it

[full fossil]

the pc died due to a HDD issue I believe

[long briar]

no because nobody actually wants to use it\

[glass lantern]

I don't think you should be relying on fusion to ever happen, not something I am willing to bet civilzation on.

[olive saffron]

but my defence budget

[long briar]

Nukes are a show of power

[manic torrent]

I used one for a long time also, but ... it's time to move on.

[glass lantern]

like yeh it's a cool concept and we should be spending money on seeing if it will work.

[full fossil]

everybody with some research can do fusion, getting the materials required is hard (I've tried, lots of government protection around them)

[thorny axle]

There is nothing wrong with using solar and wind until we get fusion

[full fossil]

I've moved on, I'll take the q6600 out of the mobo

[thorny axle]

Yeah, definitely

[olive saffron]

anyways, you cannot shit on a power source just because "currently it have no commercial use"

[stuck stratus]

it will happen eventually, but the idea that it will be the best way to produce energy in any scenario will not come to pass- renewable sources are always going to be cheaper, just less energy-dense

[thorny axle]

That’s definitely the problem

[stray apex]

yes you can
solar, wind, hydro, etc. etc. are all much better investments than fusion

we don't need to reduce usage of fossil fuels in fifty years

we need to reduce them now

[long briar]

cheaper in the long run *

[thorny axle]

Waiting for Fusion with fossil fuels is the worst idea we have

[long briar]

it's hella expensive given it's still considered new tech...

[stuck stratus]

building a few wind turbines is incredibly cheap for the power output

[thorny axle]

Investing in other clean sources until we get fusion is the way to go

[long briar]

where

[full fossil]

how do people hold motherboards these days? it stings from the bottom!

[olive saffron]

Obv we should not wait for fussion with burning fossil, but ditching Fusion is not the idea either

[thorny axle]

If we never get it, we have other clean sources

[long briar]

corners and edges?

[stuck stratus]

literally anywhere, problem is finding the space to put them

[glass lantern]

The more pressing issue I believe is that they are intermittent, and that means building peeker plants which are half as efficient as regular plants so you actually end up releasing more CO2 if that is your option.

[thorny axle]

^

[full fossil]

good idea

[long briar]

that's what I meant by where

[stray apex]

that's what energy storage is for, yes

[full fossil]

nuclear is the way to go currently

[olive saffron]

Fusion is the goal, but at the mean time, we also need other source to fill the void

[full fossil]

its cheap but hard to start up

[stuck stratus]

nuclear is not the only way to go

[long briar]

you want to find where wind currents are easily formed like valleys, but you also don't want to block things like bird migration paths

[olive saffron]

Also kickstarting a continuous fusion

[long briar]

Nuclear technically generates less than it uses

[thorny axle]

Without it, we’re doing no better than nothing until it comes out

[long briar]

and the waste has to go somewhere

[stuck stratus]

solar panels long term have the potential to be hugely efficient

current solar panels are what, 12% efficient or something?

[thorny axle]

Yeah, that’s the only real problem with fission plants

[glass lantern]

And as I said you need like a months worth of energy storage for the winter when we are like at minutes at the moment, and battery technology just is not going to improve that much.

[olive saffron]

well solar in theory generates a lot less than it uses, but what it is using is being used anyways

i.e. the sun

[full fossil]

guys how do I take off the stock intel cooler I don't see any screws

[stray apex]

no you don't?
unless you live in like, one of those places where there's no sun for months solar panels still work in the winter

[long briar]

Another one we could look into in the future is geothermal

[stray apex]

wind turbines still function when it's cold

[long briar]

right it's much too inefficient to generate electricity from ground heat

[stuck stratus]

even if we do live in a world where nuclear is cheap and fusion reactors are a thing, wind turbines and solar panels aren't going to become irrelevant

[olive saffron]

with a lot lower efficiency yeah

[stray apex]

sure?
you still don't need months of battery capacity per city

[full fossil]

the future is nuclear like I said

[long briar]

when nuclear becomes cheap is when our world is coming to an end

[glass lantern]

Halving your energy throughout the winter means that you need to have either capacity somewhere else, or have enough storage to replace it.

[full fossil]

how is it coming to a end? with regulation they're a pretty good and a safe energy source

[long briar]

what regulation is gonna purify nuclear waste

[thorny axle]

Honestly, in a world where fusion is cheap, all other energy sources ARE irrelevant

[olive saffron]

You need a hard excess of energy to offset when it is being used when you cannot generate enough

[stuck stratus]

hole in the ground

[full fossil]

nuclear waste is stored deep under the earth

[olive saffron]

and plus the energy loss during storage

[stuck stratus]

there is some cool stuff happening with modular nuclear reactors

[full fossil]

literally, a goddamn hole.

[stray apex]

or you can just
have enough capacity anyways

[long briar]

We can use a combination of everything we don't have to phase out "old tech"

[stuck stratus]

and nuclear reactors don't generate much dangerous waste

[glass lantern]

Erm actually that is only true in 1 place in the world.

[thorny axle]

You wish that was fine

[olive saffron]

if you want to have enough cap during low efficiency times it would generate way enough when it is in high eff times

[long briar]

if the future is something we're considering it's gonna be the exact same as carbon dioxide

[full fossil]

erm where have you seen a nuclear power plant leak in the last 5 years

[stray apex]

yeah, so?
you just have really cheap energy in the summer

[olive saffron]

and it is not economical to do that

[stuck stratus]

nuclear waste? well it's solid so it's not just going to float away

[slate agate]

coal power plants let off more radiation then a nuke one does even with the waste created

[thorny axle]

It’s highly corrosive, kind of goes right through stainless steel on a timescale of waste

[full fossil]

and in some country energy prices went up dramatically with the announcement of nuclear energy decommission

[olive saffron]

Do you realize making those panels require, power, energy and money?

[thorny axle]

About to contaminate a whole aquifer for a ton of people

[stray apex]

do you think natural gas extraction is free

[olive saffron]

they does not come out of thin air, and economics is a thing

[stray apex]

are LNG terminals cheap and easy to build

[thorny axle]

And more importantly in the future, turn into plastic waste in 30 years

[full fossil]

why are you guys trying to dislike nuclear energy? its proven to be safe multiple times.

[long briar]

fuck if we're talking this... how much did it cost to get you the food you eat

[olive saffron]

i.e. Energy storage

you store the energy you make excess, so you can use them when you does not make enough

[thorny axle]

Meltdowns aren’t really a problem, but waste is

[long briar]

Meltdowns don't happen without someone stupid doing something stupid

[glass lantern]

if you are being ironic, like nuclear energy is one of the safest forms of energy.

[full fossil]

there is a already solution to waste, how do you think tens of nuclear power plants operate?

[stuck stratus]

waste is perfectly safe, most of it isn't radioactive and is encased in concrete

[olive saffron]

I am talking about the talk of "generate enough energy when it is the lowest eff, and disregard energy storage is the more economical method"

[full fossil]

no I am not, I am serious its the best way in my opinion

[thorny axle]

How do you think they store it

[long briar]

so use fossil fuels more in the winter and less in the summer?

[stray apex]

solar panels don't work at night so
no

[full fossil]

a quick google search will lead you right into it

[thorny axle]

Correct

[stuck stratus]

they generate so little waste that it can just be stored on-site for now

[stray apex]

you'll need energy storage if a significant portion of your grid is solar

[thorny axle]

But do you think that storing it like that is perfectly safe?

[olive saffron]

So generate enough excess energy to offset the decrease during winter

[stuck stratus]

yeah ofc

[long briar]

no shit sherlock how else did you think it'd work

[thorny axle]

Turns out, it isn’t

Waste is extremely corrosive; it goes right through the stainless steel it’s held in

[stuck stratus]

if nuclear waste somehow gets out of the concrete its encased in, you have much bigger problems than radiation

[olive saffron]

the other guy says "just build enough to just generate enough during winter"

[thorny axle]

Read the news, it’s about to contaminate a huge water supply

[full fossil]

yes, why do you think an another chernobyl hasn't happened? cuz we have regulations, and those apply for waste.

[stray apex]

yes
in addition to having energy storage

[full fossil]

source?

[stray apex]

however
you don't need to store months of capacity

[stuck stratus]

coal has caused more radioactive contamination than nuclear waste

[stray apex]

renewables don't just stop functioning in the winter

[full fossil]

and also because soviet safety standards were bad at the time*

[olive saffron]

you obv dont need months of capacity since you are still making power, just less

[long briar]

Chernobyl happened (according to a prof's friend's friend) because some dumbasses were seeing how hot they could run the bloody thing

[thorny axle]

Sure

https://ensia.com/features/radioactive-contamination-drinking-water-radium-radon-uranium/

[glass lantern]

well you can't copy links here but death per terrawatt hour is comparable to wind or solar.

[long briar]

You can send links?

[stuck stratus]

chernobyl happened because the soviets were like "hm but what if we don't fix this glaring flaw in our reactors and don't tell our operators about it"

[thorny axle]

Sure, I never said nuclear waste was bad, just that waste is still a genuine concern

[glass lantern]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/

[olive saffron]

you probably still need about 2-3 months worth of energy to offset the decrease during winter, if you winter is about 5-6 months per year

[thorny axle]

I’m not talking about meltdowns

[glass lantern]

ah my bad I was trying to send it as an image

[stuck stratus]

it's really not though

[stray apex]

how does solar kill people
do they fall off the roof during installation

[thorny axle]

Clearly didn’t read the source material

[full fossil]

the same authour as multiple articles focused on unsafe water etc., clearly fearmongering to get more clicks, provide a more reliable source

[stuck stratus]

again, it's encased in concrete, and by the time that concrete erodes, it will cease to be radioactive

except for a very small percentage of waste that will need to be buried

[long briar]

Lots of stories, but I still think it's entirely possible because they didn't have the right training, they disabled some safeties to test out the reactor and the entire thing just dominoed

[long briar]

Yea how else do you think solar kills people?

[stuck stratus]

well it was a known flaw in the reactor's SCRAM, but the soviets didn't want to spend the money to fix it so they just covered it up

[full fossil]

I'm a linux user and I have enough money to get a new m2 mac and put asahi on it. Are there any laptops from other brands with similar batery life?

[long briar]

Might be sunburn to skin cancer actually

[stray apex]

does asahi still have really good battery life?

I assume asahi is not so tightly integrated with the silicon

[full fossil]

in addition to the authors multiple other fearmongering articles, it fails to specify the isotope of the radium which tells it if it came from a enrichened factory (for nuclear power plants) or not, and radium is found naturally so it isn't enrichened.

[full fossil]

Surprisingly they did a really good job of reverse engineering applesilicon and making drivers

[thorny axle]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hanford-nuclear-site-leaking-radioactive-chemical-waste/

[tardy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-good-news-good-professor-gif-13624955

[olive saffron]

a bit too much sun beam does that as well(the kill)

[stuck stratus]

I don't believe it has very good hardware acceleration right now, so it'd only have better battery if less stuff is running (which it is linux so that is likely to be the case)

[full fossil]

I finished the pipe bomb 😆

[thorny axle]

CBS good enough?

[tardy terrace]

A new chair has been ordered \o/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0797HZ8W1

[stray apex]

I mean, I still think buying a macbook to run a third party OS on it is risky, but it probably will have the best battery

[long briar]

congrats!!!

[tardy terrace]

[full fossil]

please reply to my message first, disproving the previous author

[full fossil]

jk

[long briar]

I need a new chair but nothing fits the bill

[stray apex]

hanford is specifically an undermaintained short-term storage site

[true hamlet]

any recommendations for a good windows 10 light install for gaming?

[stray apex]

it was intended to only hold waste for a short period before long term storage was built