public-chat

[full fossil]

Rapid uncontrolled disassemblies are always fun to watch

[dawn aurora]

yes

[cosmic ore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAl3gVvMNNM
Livestream for people more educated on rocket science

goes into a lot more detail and answers questions from chat

[thorny axle]

We hate miners here

[dawn aurora]

true, spacex willing to do this and keeping staff on stream to answer many times dumb willing does show what the company wants to do, i mean obviously the want money

[cosmic ore]

I mean this isn't really a failure on the company or anything

[dawn aurora]

yeh

[cosmic ore]

Most people just aren't interested enough for that, so they run streams targeting a more general audience

and repeat things very frequently because they know people tune in and tune out all the time

standard broadcast stuff

[dawn aurora]

yeh, but there willing to do it, and that skinda cool, but true, ppl dont really care about how important this is

[cosmic ore]

launch held 😔

[brazen relic]

Starship Flight director called a hold for checks

[dawn aurora]

thats sad, lets hope

launch confrimed!!

t - 20 !!!

[brazen relic]

T-0:30

[cosmic ore]

several engines not running

[dawn aurora]

but its working !!

[cosmic ore]

trajectory is ruined

[dawn aurora]

no

it has thrust vector control, the engines which work can tilt to compensate

mostly, it does effect a litlle though

[cosmic ore]

yes, i know how thrust vectoring works

[pearl totem]

Oh no

[cosmic ore]

it was just terminated lol

[pearl totem]

2nd stage not working

[cosmic ore]

thrust vectoring is a thing but it can't compensate for uncontrolled spins

[pearl totem]

There is goes

[cosmic ore]

at that point you've lost way too much speed and it stresses the entire frame

[pearl totem]

Kaboomy

[dawn aurora]

true, and it has disasmbled

[dawn aurora]

it dont think the frame will be the issue

at least i assume

[cosmic ore]

rockets aren't designed to take lateral loads like that during launch

[dawn aurora]

yeh true

now there just happy i didnt disaasmble on pad

[brazen relic]

It did 4 and a half flip without disassembling when it was already beyond max-q, I'd say that's some damn robust structure there

[cosmic ore]

yeah, it probably already lost a lot of speed at that point

[brazen relic]

They even went beyond max-q so that's really something still

Wonder why it didn't separate though
Shame they lost the whole stack

[dawn aurora]

its made out of tri-hexagonal carbon fiber and steel structure, it better be godamm strong

[dawn aurora]

yeh, but i like how there just still clapping in joy that it went up,

[full fossil]

I was right

[dawn aurora]

like i wonder what they expected, but i guess even if you out alot of effort, nobody gets it right the first time

[brazen relic]

Well they even cheered after the loss of the stack
Clearing the tower was something, making it past max-q for a first time was something altogether, shame it stopped so soon

[full fossil]

It was gonna go boom

Ha

[dawn aurora]

there another one ready to be integrated

[dawn aurora]

we're gonna have a fun time watching that rapid unscheduled disaasembly

[dawn aurora]

they litreally hoped that it would fall apart in water, but i guess it fell apart in air, so yeh

[brazen relic]

Oh yeah I know
Don't they even have two stacks on the ready and another 6 in factory

[dawn aurora]

they told 8 starship and 6 boosters, but i'll assume there in pretty rough shape, so lets just think one or two

[prime hearth]

Yo, do I get banned if I post a meme in this channel?

[hollow pulsar]

Check out the channel topic. Specifically No memes.

[prime hearth]

Gottit

[signal shale]

Ey is a i7 7700 not bottle neck with rtx 2070?

[prime hearth]

So what would be a more appropiate channel, off topic?

[full fossil]

You can't because you aren't a elite human (floatplane subscriber)

[prime hearth]

Aww darn

[hollow pulsar]

Potentially, check out the channel topic there too.

[full fossil]

💀

[prime hearth]

Hmmm

[hollow pulsar]

and yes, you can still post pictures here, they just won't show up in-line with the text.

[signal shale]

Elite pfff im a god at breeding alone

[prime hearth]

Off topic says no memes either

[dawn aurora]

i guess no memes

[prime hearth]

Linus where can I post my meme

It is not funny but very up to date on current events

[hollow pulsar]

"Only on-topic memes are allowed" is how I read that.

[dawn aurora]

the server will fall part if they did that

[signal shale]

#off-topic ?

[prime hearth]

No off topic memes in off topic

[hollow pulsar]

To be honest though, this isn't really a "memes" server".

[signal shale]

Nvm ye

[prime hearth]

I know it is not

[dawn aurora]

ye, and on #off-topic only computer memes

[full fossil]

😂

[prime hearth]

I am just exited about somthing that happened a couple of minutes ago

[dawn aurora]

what?, the falling of apart?

[full fossil]

The rapid uncontrolled disassembly of the recent milkman test launch

[dawn aurora]

starship*

[full fossil]

@dawn aurora fixed

[prime hearth]

Yes

[dawn aurora]

Yes

[dawn aurora]

shes doing stuff politicians cant even comprehend

let alone joe biden

[dawn aurora]

update: elon told the next one is in a few months on twitter

[hearty spear]

If anyone wants a hilarious SpaceX toy:
https://shop.spacex.com/products/starship-torch

[amber sedge]

"elite"
Wears glasses

[hollow pulsar]

I just want a black hat with a velcro back. No mesh. no "unibody" - seems like it's as rare as hens teeth though.

[dusty rune]

imagine lighting up your cigar with that

[hollow pulsar]

My question is: How long do I have to hold it to wait for it to cool down? Seems setting it down on anything not heat-tolerant would cause issues.

[hearty spear]

I suspect the torch mechanism is recessed, making that not a huge concern, unless you leave it lit for a LONG time

[hollow pulsar]

"Do not touch the flame nozzle while in use.". I dunno. This kind of implied the "nozzle" was the bottom part of the device as touching a recessed nozzle would basically be placing your finger in the flame. Maybe I'm over-analyzing. Life has taught me to pay attention to details in words.

[hearty spear]

well, based on the size of the hand in the picture, there could be a decent sized nozzle in there and still have good clearance from the edges.

But they also have to tell people that peanuts contain peanuts, so... realize that safety marketing is important to prevent stupid lawsuits.

[hollow pulsar]

If only judges prevented stupid lawsuits. lol. But yea, makes sense from the stupidity perspective.

[dusty rune]

especially since its a damn close flamethrower

[hearty spear]

Lawyer: "At no point did the company tell the consumers of this product to not stick their fingers in the fire!"
Defense: "We assumed that adults knew enough to not burn off their own fingers, and that fire was hot."
Judge: "Unfortunately precident says that the moron is in the right, pay up, bitches."

[dusty rune]

i think you have to say everything about it to avoid lawsuits

[hollow pulsar]

"The Plaintiff shall be placed in a controlled-burning building. Upon survival, the case shall be thrown out. Upon death, the reward money shall be granted to next-of-heir."

[fluid ridge]

🤦‍♂️

this is reminding me of that mcdonalds coffee lady

[hearty spear]

No, that was not her fault. That was very different.

[fluid ridge]

some people work extremely hard to become rich, some people are rich because their parents worked hard, some people are rich because they put hot coffee between their legs while driving

[hearty spear]

Incorrect, you listened to the McDonalds spin

[fluid ridge]

what happened? I thought her claim was that the coffee was too hot, but she did indeed put it between her legs/cause it to spill

[full fossil]

i have a fake chinese usb

[hearty spear]

It WAS too hot.
McD's had already been fined more than once about the coffee being too hot, but they ignored it.

Should coffee be hot enough to LITERALLY burn off your flesh?

[full fossil]

yes it shold

[hollow pulsar]

I mean. I can get pretty creative. 'In addition to the reward money, the Plaintiff's last name shall be changed to "moron" so that other's may know to read pages and pages of disclaimers before, during, or after every interaction.'

[hearty spear]

Then you're dumb 😛

[full fossil]

no its just personaly prefrence

[hearty spear]

no, it's not.

[full fossil]

LAMO

[ripe mirage]

guys important question does bigger mean better??????????

[fluid ridge]

yeah but that's like arguing a knife being too sharp once you accidentally cut off your thumb - coffee is inherently hot, even if it was not that hot, even if it was ice coffee, her actions are what lead up to the coffee spilling

[hollow pulsar]

Not necessarily.

[hearty spear]

If your coffee is so hot that it literally burns your mouth at the first sip so you can't taste it, that's not preference.

[hearty spear]

No, you're wrong.

[fluid ridge]

i would completely understand suing mcdonalds if the cup it had spontaneously imploded turning into a kettle bomb of 300 degree liquid yeah of course

[ripe mirage]

oh ok thanks

[cosmic ore]

The coffee they served was significantly hotter than what is normally served at other restaurants

[fluid ridge]

what she did would have spilt any coffee, which is the reason she is that injured in the first place

[cosmic ore]

The coffee was too hot to begin with.

[hearty spear]

Coffee should be hot, yes.
That's a given and NOBODY argued that it should be cold.

McD's was serving shit coffee that tasted like ass, and they knew it.
So their fix was to serve it at over 200-210F.

Normal coffee is ~50F cooler.

She literally suffered 3rd degree burns over a large portion of her legs because of it

[fluid ridge]

if she went to dunkin where the coffee is still really hot rather than having her flesh burnt off she would have 2nd degree burns instead

[cosmic ore]

Time is a difference

[hearty spear]

which is a difference of "Bandages and ointment for a while vs NEEDING FUCKING SKIN GRAFTS"

[cosmic ore]

in that time the normally served coffee can be cleaned off and won't burn you so severely

[clear creek]

I love dunkin donuts

[cosmic ore]

at that temperature it almost immediately destroyed her skin even through clothes

[hearty spear]

If you're serving coffee that's hot enough to send people to the hospital for surgery?
You're fucking doing it wrong

[fluid ridge]

i agree with this i said this earlier

mcdonalds coffee was too hot

but i also said nobody should have an inherently hot liquid between their legs with the lid off while driving

her argument was "yeah i only expected second degree burns not third degree burns!"?

[hearty spear]

Yes, and she openly admitted that.

She also didn't ask for millions in the lawsuit. Or even sue them to start.

[hollow pulsar]

Here's some hopefully good info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

[brazen relic]

Her complaint was that the coffee was hot to the point it was an actual hazard
Served as it was, it was near boiling point

[brazen relic]

That too

[hearty spear]

McD's fucked up a whole bunch of times and then got fed to the judge.
(Which was later mostly overturned. But McD's did it to themselves.)

[fluid ridge]

so it is the "i only expected to burn somewhat not that much"

[full fossil]

shold i burn arch linux on my USB?

or shold i go with a diefrent one

[hearty spear]

I've never heard the term "burn" with a usb stick lol

[full fossil]

flash

[brazen relic]

@fluid ridge @hearty spear @hollow pulsar
https://youtu.be/KNWh6Kw3ejQ

[brazen relic]

You burn an image, that term was used when engraving DVDs, it stayed with sticks when doing the same operation even when what happened wasn't the same thing

[hearty spear]

Well, it started with CDs and "CD Burners" 😛

[fluid ridge]

yeah i skimmed the wikipedia article, from what I can establish her actions would have caused any liquid to spill - yes the coffee was too hot, yes coffee should not burn flesh off like acid - but if mcdonalds had served coffee at a normal temperature she would not have a case, which means her actions were the reason she was put into that situation

"When I put a hot liquid with the lid open between my legs I only expect some of my flesh to be burned off, not as much as it did"

[brazen relic]

Yes, this is what I said

Burners/engravers, same thing

[hearty spear]

I see "DVD" 😛

[fluid ridge]

also the correct term for that USB thing is flashing

[hearty spear]

writing, flashing, copying, lots of things for USBs lol

[hollow pulsar]

"No one serves coffee that hot!".
"You're right! Only a clown would!"
LOL

[fluid ridge]

specifically for operating systems it's flashing

[sly parcel]

hopefully the ptm7950 will arive soon

it is now at the customs

[fluid ridge]

you can say the exact same thing for putting an inherently hot liquid between your legs with the lid off while in a car

[full fossil]

can i please get my answer

[fluid ridge]

this goes back to the "i only expected 2nd degree burns" thing

[sly parcel]

but knowing stories about the romanian customs, it will be there for another week

[hollow pulsar]

Are you watching the video?

[brazen relic]

McDonald's serving a product that is an actual hazard is on them
If it was at a normal temp, placing the cup between her thighs wouldn't have burned her til she spilled it, it'd just have been uncomfortably warm

[fluid ridge]

nope

[hearty spear]

you can use any distro you want.

[hollow pulsar]

Did you read the Wiki article?

[fluid ridge]

like shower too hot temperature?

[full fossil]

ok but is there something better for everyday usage?

[fluid ridge]

that seems rather cold for coffee

[brazen relic]

Like third degree burns on contact hot

[fluid ridge]

so she would have had third degree burns either way?

[hearty spear]

Shower too hot is about 120-130F, tops.
McD's coffee was ~80F above that.

[fluid ridge]

he said "uncomfortably warm" was normal coffee temp, so i assumed thats like shower too hot temperature

[hearty spear]

And coffee is 150-160F normally, which is plenty hot to burn, but won't put you in the damned hospital

[brazen relic]

What ? No ? If it had been 50-60°C, that could still have been about handleable
It was above 80 which will burn your skin if you touch it for longer than a second

[fluid ridge]

so "I only expected second degree burns when I did what I did" - the only changing variable in this entire scenario was how hot the coffee is, because either way any liquid from any restaurant, cafe, etc. would have spilled if handled like that in a vehicle

[brazen relic]

If it had been such temp, yes, however it was near boiling point which is a hazard

[low rain]

Man I had a bad experience at the Germany to Switzerland border last summer

[hearty spear]

You really don't see a difference between some bandages and ointment vs fucking skin graft surgery?

[fluid ridge]

yeah I already acknowledged that mcdonalds was wrong for making acid coffee

[low rain]

What happened is, so basically at that border they don’t stop u and ask for id and stuff so you just drive through, but no they decide to tell us to pull over to search our car out of everybody like wtf???

[fluid ridge]

i do, but i also see the difference between not putting a very hot liquid between my legs while driving with the lid off vs doing it

[hearty spear]

"McDonalds is wrong for setting up a situation where someone could burn off their flesh, but it's not their fault someone did it!"
You have one hell of a cognitive dissonance.

[fluid ridge]

nobody would sue a knife manufacturer for making a knife too sharp because of an accident they cause themselves

[hollow pulsar]

They do if the knife was made in negligence.

[low rain]

Honestly I think it’s stupid to even put a coffee somewhere it could spill on u

[fluid ridge]

this is what i have been trying to say without expressly saying it

[hollow pulsar]

That's literally how coffee is. It cannot be used at all unless it has the potential to spill on you.

[brazen relic]

It wouldn't
I'd know, McDo here gives you flimsy cupholders that doesn't actually hold anything
I have to put my cup of soda between my thighs and drive like that all the way back home and I never spilled it once
It was uncomfortably cold but handleable
I did that a few times with my Starbucks order, it doesn't get close to burning my skin even if it's uncomfortable
Now imagine doing the operation with a near boiling coffee

[fluid ridge]

you would acknowledge that if you did spill your sprite that it would be your fault yes?

[wind pulsar]

It doesn't matter
I do this all the time anyway (temporarily so I can pay), because I don't expect coffee to be so hot to the point that it is able to give a woman third degree burns all over her pelvic region

[low rain]

Nah cause whenever I drink coffee I try to keep it a little far away from me to the point I can reach it but if it spills than it won’t touch me.

[fluid ridge]

ok i gtg now but i will be back

[wind pulsar]

Defending McDonalds in this is plain sickening, holy shit

[hollow pulsar]

Spills and accidents are unavoidable. In fact, they found the plaintiff to be at 20% fault. However, McDonalds and everyone knows accidents happen, on a daily basis, with coffee. Does that release the maker of the coffee from all liability for making the coffee exceedingly hotter than other coffee makers?

[low rain]

I’m almost at school so I’ll prolly also get off soon

[hearty spear]

I've never seen this much dedication to an actual clown in my life.

[brazen relic]

Yes, for sure
However after doing it with hot and cold beverages that were not an actual thermal hazard successfully at least 30 times, I can confidently say that, even if it's not the accepted practice, if I came to drop it, it'd have been because it had been unhandleable because of heat/cold

[wind pulsar]

She deserves the damn money. She never asked for the money, she didn't even want to file a lawsuit at first.

[brazen relic]

The way home has a bunch of tight turns and slopes, never spilled a drop

[wind pulsar]

As far as I know all she wanted is for McDonalds to put labels on the cups saying that the coffee can be.. well hot. Because at the time that wasn't the case

[hearty spear]

and some money to help cover the hospital bills.

[brazen relic]

Coffee machine makers would answer you that the temperature is programmable and that if the product made out of their devices was a hazard it's because it's been prepared as such
Just because it can reach those temps doesn't mean it should be set on these

[hearty spear]

which, IMO, was pretty generous on her part to not go for pain and suffering.

[brazen relic]

I think I remember a mention that if she wanted anything at all from them it was just to cover the burns fee

[long briar]

because of how the American healthcare system works, insurance only starts covering if you sue and lose first

[hearty spear]

she wanted help with the hospital bills, that's it.
Not even asking for more.

[hollow pulsar]

The "maker" of the coffee in this case is "you".

[brazen relic]

That's what I said

[hearty spear]

And McD's said "fuck off"

[wind pulsar]

Yeah no

[brazen relic]

...what ? Did she use McDo's coffee machine herself ? Did she program it at that temperature ?

[long briar]

same thing goes for the story where a child Injured his auntie(?) and she had to sue in order for her insurance to cover

[fluid ridge]

so the treshold for blame shifts with temperature? If that is what is being claimed I guess I digress

[wind pulsar]

She didn't touch the machine herself, she didn't tell people that it should be as hot as possible, she did not 'make' the coffee, not even technically

If she did the lawsuit would've gone different

[hearty spear]

yes, yes it does. That's actually really fucking simple logic.

[wind pulsar]

Yes, since one temperature burns your skin away and the other doesn't

[hollow pulsar]

.... your response is exactly what I'm saying. A coffee machine manufacturer is different than the person who makes the coffee. A person made her a coffee that was way too hot and as such, at least some liability for the incident lies on the maker of the coffee. Not the manufacturer of the machine.

[long briar]

third degree burns start with around 46C

[full fossil]

Istg is this about the mcdonald’s coffe thing

[long briar]

yes

[fossil frost]

Not dropping it coffee all over yourself would also prevent your skin from melting

[hearty spear]

depending on the duration of the contact.

[hearty spear]

mostly irrelevant here.

[brazen relic]

McDo lost that case because the product was an actual hazard, even regular handling would have and probably cdid cause other spills but those were without consequences I suppose
I don't recall the tiny details of the suit but there was an history of spillages from the temp of the coffee iirc

[full fossil]

That woman has to get skin grafts it wasn’t just hot, it burned her damn skin off

[long briar]

le conservative mindset I guess, you can't hold your own coffee? your fault

[wind pulsar]

Obviously and she and the court acknowledged that. You're not helping the topic whatsoever

She had some fault, since she obviously acknowledged that it was too hot

[fossil frost]

why? you are aware the coffee is hot, and, there is always an option of a zero liability accident, doesnt have to have somebody be liable for every thing that happens...

[long briar]

only in America...

[wind pulsar]

That's not a reason for the coffee to be this hot in the first place

[brazen relic]

The coffee caused the dropping on the holder from the inhability of the holder to sustain temperature of hazardous levels

[long briar]

even the tea that I make for myself is 60C, hot enough to make tea but if I get it on myself it won't literally burn my skin off

[brazen relic]

This

[fossil frost]

ive picked up coffee that is too hot to hold before, i didnt melt my own dick off with it, i put it back down

common sense is supposed to be a thing

[hearty spear]

incorrect.
So, one thing that has to be assumed with anything is that accidents WILL happen.
And actual coffee shops serve coffee that isn't hot enough to burn your skin off.

McD's ignored that, as well as penalties they had previously paid because it was too hot and continued to serve that coffee.

So the fact that it was hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns IN SECONDS is entirely their fault.

[full fossil]

We have literal laws and regulations about how hot it can be
Our ships get in trouble if it’s too hot because it DOES injure people

[brazen relic]

Not everyone has the same reaction to skin burning temperature
That's called the human factor and it's random

[hearty spear]

common sense also says "Don't hand people liquid that will burn their flesh off"

[full fossil]

This screams libertarian shitposting

[fossil frost]

"McD's ignored that, as well as penalties they had previously paid because it was too hot and continued to serve that coffee." <<< was unaware of that... THAT is what changes it for me... if mcds knew about it, and had it happen before, and then did fuck all about it, then yeah, they deserve to get fucked for that

[hollow pulsar]

Believe it or not, the McDonalds case found BOTH parties to be liable.

[hearty spear]

you're not wrong

[hollow pulsar]

The lady, for spilling it, McDonalds, for the temperature it was served at.

[brazen relic]

Fact

[full fossil]

“Le goberment always bad
If people die, L for them”

[wind pulsar]

They handed her coffee around the mark of being 200 degrees hot, 3rd degree burns start at around 150 lmao

[hearty spear]

Lady fucked up, and court acknowledged it.
McD's fucked up because it never should have been able to happen in the first place.

[full fossil]

Whaaaat nuance? Get dat ish outta here

[fossil frost]

real degrees or stupid degrees?

[long briar]

I don't know fareinheights...

[hollow pulsar]

212F = 100C

[hearty spear]

Farenheit.

[fossil frost]

ahh, stupid degrees, got it

[brazen relic]

Stupid degrees then

[full fossil]

200f is roughly 97°C

[dusty rune]

based

[long briar]

46C = 3rd beginning of 1st deg burns

[hearty spear]

150F is ~70C give or take
200 is about 95C

[dusty rune]

nah wait that low and u get 3rd degree?

[wind pulsar]

Yes, that's the reason why this got so big in the first place apart from McDonalds telling a 79 year old to 'fuck off' in corporate speech when she asked McDonalds to cover medical bills, after which she then sued

[long briar]

long enough yep

[full fossil]

Hell yeah my mental f to c is getting better

[brazen relic]

no, just factual
Well, based on facts so you're not wrong

[hearty spear]

with enough time, yes.

[wind pulsar]

Yes, but that is the mark where you won't really feel the burns

[long briar]

that's why laptop bottoms often have insulating stickers

[fossil frost]

what do you think all that redness is when you get out of a hot bath?

[long briar]

not to worsen cooling, but so you don't burn your legs

[wind pulsar]

If you found your skin kinda feeling leathery, that's already a third degree burn, the scale is pretty broad

[dusty rune]

i never take hot baths

its either cold-ish or medium

[hearty spear]

which is part of the suit:
At 95c it burns off flesh in a few seconds. Too fast for most people to react.

At 60C-70C, you have time to react and NOT need skin grafts.

[full fossil]

What bothers me is this conversation is still happening 20 years later, after a court of much more educated lawyers decided that mcd was at fault

But hey, discordians know better I guess

[dusty rune]

ah

[hearty spear]

McD's got fucked and 100% earned it.

[brazen relic]

Get the age factor in the equation, older people react to temperature much more slowly

[hollow pulsar]

Gotta educate the next generation on past mistakes to give them a chance to not repeat them. 🙂

[full fossil]

And fixed the problem
And her medical bills were paid for
Literally every problem was solved

[wind pulsar]

That's not a 3rd degree burn lmao

[fossil frost]

when i was about 5, my mum was making a forumla bottle for my brother, and she passed out while holding the freshly boiled kettle, and spilled most of the kettle on her self. 90+ degree c water all over her legs, and because she had already passed out, she was just lay there in it for a few minutes, 2nd degree burns over most of the top of her legs

[full fossil]

You’re straight up lying

[hollow pulsar]

Dang. I'm sorry that happened to her.

[hearty spear]

only because the court system forced them to.
She originally asked for them to fix that, and help with bills, and they told her to kick rocks

[teal stump]

Hello guys

I wanna show u something really interesting

[brazen relic]

no

[hearty spear]

Science says that is incorrect:
http://antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=15

[full fossil]

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/scaldinjuryeducatorsguide.pdf

ONE SECOND. For 68°C water to cause a third degree burn

[wind pulsar]

I lied btw, that's a second to first degree burn lmao

[dusty rune]

that makes much more sense, i am not that dumb yet!

[wind pulsar]

A third degree burn is when your entire outer layer of skin is effected, tagged wrong person kek

[long briar]

60C best water temp to drink

[hearty spear]

Also: You don't heat baby bottles in boiling water. You want those to be slightly over body temp.
Boiling water is NOT needed to reach that.

[full fossil]

Epidermal temp limits are different

[wind pulsar]

And a fourth degree burn is NOT something you want to experience

[fossil frost]

this was a freshy boiled kettle, she had 2nd degree burns, she had to go to hospital every day for about 2 weeks, then every 3 days for another 3 or 4 weeks, im literally on the phone with her now asking her about it

[full fossil]

Basically bone showing
From a burn

[dusty rune]

oh yikes

[glass lantern]

Hey errr this may be a hard ask, but like are there any non militant audiophiles here who still have a grasp on reality so therefore can consider budget.

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, at a fourth degree burn amputation is mostly done

[hearty spear]

yeah, fourth degree is baaaaaaad

[hollow pulsar]

I'm wondering if the water quickly cooled due to surface area and maybe ambient temperature.

[full fossil]

hello

[hearty spear]

so you're asking for a unicorn?

[glass lantern]

Yeh..

[full fossil]

Budget is $20-$50 to me

[dusty rune]

is there a 5th degree burn

[glass lantern]

na I mean like a budget

[hearty spear]

yeah, your body turns to ash 😛

[glass lantern]

I'm thinking £200~

[full fossil]

Yes there is

[wind pulsar]

No

[full fossil]

No
4th is barely even recognized and it’s pretty much bone showing and death

[dusty rune]

id imagine it would just mean your entire arm falls off

[full fossil]

You literally have a better chance of surviving if they cut stuff off

It’s that bad

@dusty rune Fifth-degree burn injuries occur when all the skin and subcutaneous tissues are destroyed, exposing muscle. - yikes

[hearty spear]

you can get it from one side of a limb, but it also means the muscle and other things are fucked, so it's that bad.

[long briar]

are you ok with iems?

[dusty rune]

isnt 4th degree when u see the bone?

[full fossil]

@dusty rune 5th degree burns doesnt hurt at all. Because all the pain receptors are fucked

[glass lantern]

to be fair there is Lou on the HWUB discord who can also consider budget, but I would have to re-up my patron... which I would prefer not to do because I am exceedingly cheap

[wind pulsar]

You generally always have a chance of surviving, it always depends on the scale of the burn

Somebody HAS done a video on this, but idk if I should post that here since he shows examples on dummies

[long briar]

There are some damn good iems (more commonly known as earbuds) at about 20 bucks

[dusty rune]

so how would 5th be less damage than 4th

[full fossil]

You get pain while you heal. I heard it’s not a good experience 😬

[dusty rune]

none wireless, no?

[full fossil]

Hell naw

[glass lantern]

to be fair though because I am exceedingly cheap I will probably end up hitting resubing because it better to have someone I somewhat trust guide me.

[wind pulsar]

It isn't

[dusty rune]

hmmmmmmmmm either ugly cable or no cable but worse

[long briar]

oh we're looking for wireless?

[full fossil]

5th is super damaged you cant even feel pain anymore

[glass lantern]

I'm looking for speakers.

[long briar]

And what's your budget?

[dusty rune]

nah just for me tbh

[fossil frost]

just speaking to her now, she had just boiled the kettle, was prone to passing out anyway, and she passed out trying to make a formula bottle and dropped the kettle on her self, she remembers waking up what must have been a few minutes later with my brother screaming in his high chair, she thought she had splashed him with it, and then realised she couldnt feel most of her legs, and what she could feel was in pain, and she looked down and she had huge yellow blisters on her skin, and parts of the skin "looked melted". and she says she still has scaring from it to this day, and that was about 30 years ago when that happened... and yes, she was in the kitchen, and it was tiled, so that tiled floor would have sucked the temp out of the water pretty quickly

[dusty rune]

im not the one in question tho

[full fossil]

Sony bookshelf speakers

[long briar]

same question, budget?

[full fossil]

#audio-tech is a good place to go!

[dusty rune]

im in romania so its a bit more difficult but like 60$

[hollow pulsar]

Dang that whomps. Again, I wish that hadn't happened. 😦

[long briar]

TWS? See if you can snipe first gen galaxy buds, nekocake right now isn't bad either

[dusty rune]

go to audio tech tho this slowdown is a pain

[full fossil]

This chat is a pain

[dusty rune]

where tf do i even find nekocake

[wind pulsar]

Generally speaking it ends at 4th degree burns because it's kind of a pain in the ass

If we go specifically, 4th degree burns expose fat tissue and 5th degree burns expose muscle

But it's generally accepted that 4th degree is the end of it since in both scenarios the nerves are destroyed. So generally speaking, if the burn was fast enough, you won't even feel it

[long briar]

See if you can get a used pair of JBL LSR305, otherwise Edifier R1700BT is a solid choice as well.

[long briar]

Shenzhenaudio, aliexpress

[fossil frost]

shes just told me that my nan, her mum, when my mum phoned her to ask if she would take me and my other brother to school so she could "go to the doctor"... my nan shouted at her and told her that she "needed to stop being lazy and make better use of her time" before coming to our house anyway, and then seeing what my mum had done and then my nan, the senior nurse, told her to get straight to hospital "now"

[dusty rune]

and ure complaining about sensibility to price lmfao

[long briar]

for speakers that's actually not that much

[wind pulsar]

But, medically acknowledged is first, second and third degree, with the third degree pretty much encompassing fourth and fifth degree (meaning it's the same thing generally speaking)

[long briar]

Your best bet would defo be LSR305/305P on the used market, or on sale if ur lucky

[dusty rune]

yeah speakers

[fossil frost]

i dont know why, but i always assumed it was the other way round, 3rd was fuck all, 2nd was worse, 1st was worst

[full fossil]

[long briar]

murder!! I got it mixed up too oops

[full fossil]

Aren’t you a nurse dude

[dusty rune]

and the nekos are that good that you would suggest them

[fossil frost]

never suggested that i was

[glass lantern]

again ablity to consider a budget rather than being like Na anything but these particular speakers are absolute shit, and I don't mind spending a reasonable amount on speakers because they last like 15 - 20 years

[long briar]

given the price yes

make sure it's the 2022 version tho

[dusty rune]

how

[long briar]

If you're getting from Shenzhenaudio, it'll be new. If aliexpress, the listing will probably say

[dusty rune]

idk if i should buy from chinese sites since return might not be possible and every device i tried falls off my ears

[long briar]

make sure the store on ali has good reviews tho

[wind pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5tz6x9UNq8
YouTube video: 'Skin Burns A LOT Faster Than You Think'

Discretion advised. Though he shows it on a fake leg and it's very interesting, it still kinda looks yucky

(Embedd removed because even the thumbnail looks yucky)

[dusty rune]

ngl theyre kinda cute tho

[dusty rune]

samsung buds included

[glass lantern]

£200 over 15 years is like £13.3 a year so MORE than reasonable

[brazen relic]

War Thunder devs when FBI shows up :
"Hi Dave, get in get in ! how's the kid lately ? Here, have some coffee, PC's right there, see you check watch Wednesday in 2 weeks for the next one ?"
https://twitter.com/mask_bastard/status/1648755208153968641?s=46

meme bastard (@mask_bastard)

https://t.co/ReduiHnhle

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Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 6:27 PM

[olive saffron]

wait what, again？

[dusty rune]

a minecraft player did as well, right?

[olive saffron]

like, this is new, not the chinese leak that happened like a month ago?

[wind pulsar]

I mean yeah, the kid who leaked Ukrainian military secrets also only did it because he was pissed about losing debates on Discord

<@&750150305383186585>

[glass lantern]

someone looking to get the ban hammer

[olive saffron]

that is a ez block for sure

[dusty rune]

ban

[random jolt]

[fossil frost]

night night shit head 🙂

[olive saffron]

and that is a ez ban for sure

[full fossil]

Avg public chat

[dusty rune]

ty to whoever did that

[long briar]

probably either momo or langley

[full fossil]

I can’t say meme dog but they can say that 😞

[dusty rune]

nexgen why r the nekocakes so weeb i cant

the moment i saw the slide about the voice prompt being idk whats her name i decided im not buying

[fossil frost]

yeah im surprised that isnt on the banned words list, when some quite tame words are on the list

[olive saffron]

ok so wt does not have a brand new leak

[glass lantern]

to be fair I do like discords where you have a 1 time small payment because it reduces that kind of stuff.

[olive saffron]

thank god.

[wind pulsar]

Nah, the newest military leak was in Discord iirc

[glass lantern]

like $2 - $5

[olive saffron]

i mean, Niger is a country, and you cant really ban a country name

[dusty rune]

cause its a country tbf

[dusty rune]

eh, that seems excessive, to pay to use a server just because of some slight annoyance?

[olive saffron]

yeah it was minecraft, so i was surprised when the guy post a screenshot of a article that appears to be 2 days ago

[glass lantern]

but it's like $2 dude

[fossil frost]

needs more AI bot... to be able to know the context of a message, so some banned words would require a negative context to cause a delete

[dusty rune]

why pay when you get the same thing for free

2$ is the price of 2 hotdogs almost

[long briar]

where

[olive saffron]

then you need to teach AI the human language, and when you can do that you have a AI that is a lot more than a profanity filter

[long briar]

at costco it's 1.50cad 😦

[dusty rune]

which is 1 usd

[olive saffron]

cad value 😦

[glass lantern]

Dude if you are getting a hotdog for $1 I would suggest you take a visit to the doctors after.

[dusty rune]

tf is wrong? u buy black angus hotdogs or what

[long briar]

costco hot dogs are awesome

[glass lantern]

maybe get your stomach pumped.

[long briar]

a dollar for a hotdog and drink? sold

[dusty rune]

"hah, i dont buy these poor people hotdogs!"

[long briar]

I mean I woudn't eat it every day.... rice is still better

[olive saffron]

because 1$ is suspiciously cheap for food

[long briar]

but costcoooo

[dusty rune]

how much does rice cost

[olive saffron]

fuck you got me

[long briar]

https://www.narcity.com/costco-price-hot-dogs-food-court-forever

[glass lantern]

Yeh but rice is not meat

[fossil frost]

its costco, and its $1, that means you are 100% eating a mixture of pig bumhole, and horse bumhole

[glass lantern]

reformed meat*

[olive saffron]

i mean, how much of hot dog is meat

[full fossil]

So?

[fossil frost]

the bumhole part

[full fossil]

“Ew I don’t wanna use all the meat of an animal!!!”

[long briar]

sooo the most fatty part?

[wind pulsar]

The reason Costco is cheap is because you are paying for a membership to shop there. There's sections for non-members and you can show them a cash card and you can also shop there, but that's generally it

[olive saffron]

yes

but even costco is 1.5$, not 1.

[wind pulsar]

Though tbf, I don't shop at Costco or similar stores and I can get a full meal for around a dollar

[full fossil]

Man I’ve eaten fertilized duck eggs and coffee fermented in cat shit
I don’t care about cleaned bumhole meat hotdog

[glass lantern]

well the whole thing but it's reclaimed meat so meat that has gone bad and been chemically reclaimed and meat that is left over on the bone.

[olive saffron]

making the food yourself is very different tho

[fossil frost]

never had the duck eggs, doesnt appeal to me, ive tried the coffee though, was far too bitter

[wind pulsar]

Oh I don't make it myself, hah

[glass lantern]

aka mechanically reclimed

[olive saffron]

huh

teach me your ways

[wind pulsar]

As if I have the time for that lmfao
I have a slave fiancee that does that for me

[glass lantern]

also bad cuts of the meat

[olive saffron]

oh...

[long briar]

has to be bad cuts of beef

[wind pulsar]

On a real note though, I just don't eat that often

[long briar]

there's no way they'd use good meat in any hotdog, it's a hotdog.

[olive saffron]

it is just the little bits of the meat that is unusable otherwise

[wind pulsar]

I mean yeah, that's the whole point of sausages

[full fossil]

🌭

[olive saffron]

but hey, i always like a hotdog when im hungry

[wind pulsar]

Sausages exist because one guy thought it was wasteful to throw away leftover meat

[long briar]

source?

[fossil frost]

"reclaimed" is whatever is left on the bone, is stripped from the bone with a high pressure water jet, so its very little anyway, and shredded by the time its drained

[glass lantern]

so when I see a $1 hotdog when the standards for a semi decent hotdog are so low, I'm like... Nope nope nope.

[glass lantern]

That is mechanically reclaimed meat

[full fossil]

Leftover meat wrapped in intestine = sausage

[glass lantern]

chemically reclaimed meat is exactly what I said

[olive saffron]

or you can go one step worse: add starch to meat, so you go with even less meat content

[long briar]

Source that costco uses that

[fossil frost]

im having left over ground up meat wrapped in intestines later on, with cut up potatoes 🙂

[full fossil]

My source is I made it up!

[long briar]

You'd think given how popular they are, if Costco's claims that it's 100% beef was false, someone would've caught on already

[olive saffron]

i dont think costco does that, but it is very common practice in china

[long briar]

that's China

[fossil frost]

tesco spent years saying that their mince in their ready meals was "100% beef", when it was about 20% horse

[full fossil]

Oh it’s beef alright
Beef butt

[long briar]

What the crap is tesco

[olive saffron]

yes, i just say that it can happen, but i dont think it is happeneing in costco

[fossil frost]

uk supermarket

[olive saffron]

they dont use their dogs to make money anyways.

[long briar]

I don't understand what's wrong with the butt of an animal?

[fossil frost]

happened with a bunch of supermarkets all at the same time in the uk, and turns out they had all been using horse mixed in with other various meats for years, instead of beef, because it was cheaper and looks the same

[wind pulsar]

I don't eat that often and the food I buy is usually one of these packs that you pour water on and shove it in a microwave. Turns into around 500g of food within 8 minutes or so.

IF I cook, I just do whatever comes to my mind. I saw a South Korean channel at some point that made fried potato cubes, thought that was super cute and made me some myself.

[olive saffron]

ah k

[fossil frost]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/22/horsemeat-scandal-guardian-investigation-public-secrecy

[wind pulsar]

Oh nyo, horsemeat

[long briar]

I've actually never had this...

[fossil frost]

remove the preview, because... yeah

[long briar]

Then again if I'm eating out it's usually rice rolls

[wind pulsar]

I like, have nothing against horsemeat lmao

[fossil frost]

eating horse doesnt bother me. but selling horse meat as "100% british beef" is somewhat illegal

[full fossil]

Is horsemeat the manufactured outrage of the day?

[wind pulsar]

Oh for sure, that's obviously false advertising, but idk, I don't care about if a dish has horse meat in it

[wind pulsar]

In America? 100%
That's illegal in a lot of states even

[timid meadow]

Might be an unpopular opinion but meat is meat. Idc if its typically a pet or not.

[olive saffron]

its very common in the convinience store quality ones (where they are wrapped indivisually in plasticy shirk wrap ish thing)

[fossil frost]

i dont care if it has horse in it or not, as long as it says "beef and horse", if it says "its 100% beef" then in annoyed, because im not getting what ive paid for

[olive saffron]

when you eat a starch sausage you know you are eating one, they taste like powder

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, I can see their thoughtprocess though
'Horse & Meat' is something no ass would buy

[olive saffron]

or just not advertise it as 100% beef

[wind pulsar]

Exactly. I don't eat meat often anyway, I can only eat around 200~300g of it because white and red meat allergy lmao

[olive saffron]

just say "beef"

[long briar]

Oh!!! those ones... yea so when I was a child I didn't have spare cash to buy those, then when I'm older I just have no desire to eat red plastic wrapped sausages... so yea I wouldn't know

[full fossil]

All these claims and STILL no sources

[wind pulsar]

For what again?

[long briar]

Costco is reclaimed meat

[olive saffron]

when you scrape together something like 3 yuan and all you can taste is starch

mmmm sadness

[full fossil]

*horse meat

[long briar]

All sources point to Costco Hotdogs being pure beef...

[long briar]

That was so long ago...

[timid meadow]

"Hotdog" and "pure beef" dont belong in the same sentence

Theres so much other stuff in most hotdogs

[long briar]

Google it ;-; or bing it as it were

[full fossil]

They do if you make it out of beef bits

[olive saffron]

yeah, but i will never forget

[fossil frost]

Yeah, the whole problem was the advertising of it. People got very pissy about being sold something different to what was written on the box

[wind pulsar]

I mean sources say they're at the very least free of antibiotics and hormones, but they're also blade-tenderized according to greatist.com, a few videos seem to support that

[olive saffron]

idk, meat is meat

[long briar]

Dog just tastes like Chicken ;-;

[olive saffron]

as long as my meat contains 100% meat i dont really care what they do to the meat

[wind pulsar]

I mean yeah, but kinda shitty to buy meat that pretends to be tender if you buy meat, at least buy some good meat

[olive saffron]

but costco meat are very cheap compared to others

[long briar]

which makes sense

[timid meadow]

I wanna try various random animals but theres no humane and legal way to eat alot of em in the US

[long briar]

just go to China

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, you'll have to travel around

[olive saffron]

or SEA in general

[long briar]

esp southeast

[strong kettle]

[full fossil]

Wat da dawg doin

[olive saffron]

the land of questionable food that tastes good

[long briar]

Where I'm from, we have a reputation to be able to eat anything that moves ;-;

[olive saffron]

i instantly know where you are from now

[strong kettle]

thailand

[full fossil]

Vietnam?

[long briar]

no it's SE china

[olive saffron]

Guagndong province

[strong kettle]

[full fossil]

[long briar]

Guangdong area, the rural area

[long briar]

ehe-

[strong kettle]

thats hella close to where my girlfriend was born

[long briar]

Canada is just sm nicer

[wind pulsar]

I mean yeah, why not
Especially in rural areas people find it cheaper to just hunt shit and eat it

My home village also has a vending machine for bear meat that local hunters sell, it's pretty cool

[polar fern]

Sigh

[strong kettle]

have a friend that wants to go there after university

[full fossil]

Sight

[olive saffron]

i dont know where my City's reputation as except we hate people from other province lol

[strong kettle]

Everyone in my country hates it

Alot of Singaporeans just leave the country and never come back

[olive saffron]

yeah you probably know where im from now

[long briar]

I actually don't... I moved rather young

[olive saffron]

what about now

[long briar]

I still don't ;-;

[olive saffron]

Shanghai

[polar fern]

Hunting sounds fine till you realise that deer are full of Covid & prions & bear are essential apex predators & we need them to keep the ecosystem balanced.

[long briar]

Oh.

[olive saffron]

[strong kettle]

though so

[long briar]

I've never been there before :/

[strong kettle]

I hate the shanghai chinese accent

[olive saffron]

why 😦

[long briar]

I'm Cantonese it's worse

[strong kettle]

it sounds so off

[long briar]

we apparently always sound angry to white people

[polar fern]

Uh

[long briar]

Lessons learned in Canada-

[full fossil]

Deer can’t be full of covid, that makes zero sense.
Covid is the human reaction to the SARS-CoV-2 virus

[strong kettle]

meh

[polar fern]

Can we not do the racist thing? Thanks.

[long briar]

is it racist?

[olive saffron]

tbf my mandarin accent is more or less "Standard", as closer to Northern

[full fossil]

You’re talking about yourself, no

[median idol]

My native tongue sounds like we're always yelling

[polar fern]

@full fossil HAHAHA oh men have you not been keeping up.

[olive saffron]

how is it racist?

[full fossil]

Filipino?

[long briar]

How is saying we sound angry to native english speakers... racist?

[full fossil]

Don’t tag me weirdo

[strong kettle]

my mandarin sound hella malaysian

[hollow pulsar]

That would have been a better way to phrase it.

[polar fern]

“White people” generalisations based on skin pigment = racist

[olive saffron]

But at the same time, my shanghainese does not sound proper

[median idol]

No Arabic

[strong kettle]

Caucasian that better?

[polar fern]

@full fossil wow name calling?

Nope it’s racist.

[olive saffron]

im pretty sure we are all pretty asian here, as above context

[hollow pulsar]

No. The goal was "Native English speakers", which has nothing to do with skin color. The author has presented the better phrasing, let's just move on.

[long briar]

racism isn't generalization but rather prejudice or discrimination due to race, I never said anything bad about "whites" just that we sound angry to them.

[polar fern]

More racism cool.

[full fossil]

<@&750150305383186585> transit biker starting discourse over nothing

[polar fern]

Blocked.

[long briar]

Yea I should've worded it better to begin with

[strong kettle]

[hollow pulsar]

No worries mate.

[olive saffron]

I sound like a chinese guy who have been on youtube too much

[full fossil]

You discussed your own experiences and were polite. Nothing about it was racist.

[long briar]

oh well, it is what it is

[plush rivet]

Ok bruh wth is going on

[polar fern]

And more block. Cool.

[olive saffron]

so my "accent" is just hybrid of whatever the hell i feel ike

[full fossil]

Manufactured outrage

[plush rivet]

I swear theirs always something going on in this chat lmao

[olive saffron]

anyyways im gonna go get lunch

[strong kettle]

mines just a british one

[olive saffron]

my roommates says when i am sick my accent becomes more british

and normally it is just anything goes

[polar fern]

Got zero time for folks enabling discriminatory comments, or racism. Y’all should be ashamed.

[plush rivet]

Just because someone has a different opinion of you does not give you an excuse to call mods.
He/she hasent broken any rules, not sure why your even calling them

[long briar]

My canto accent is distinctly mainland and my mando accent is also more southern, our pitch changes a lot more (canto influence I think)

[plush rivet]

Not saying anything he/she said I agree with at all, but I’m being more objective

[long briar]

I'm still confused which part was racist butok

[strong kettle]

i think im getting a nose bleed

[full fossil]

Covid misinformation and false accusations of racism are not “opinions”

[plush rivet]

But again, no rules were broken

but whatever that’s y’all’s business I’m not about to get into it

[full fossil]

They’re essentially fear mongering and putting down others for discussing their own accents

[blazing orchid]

Hi

[polar fern]

Man this is some bs https://www.lightreading.com/5g-and-beyond/atandt-touts-progress-on-path-to-standalone-5g/d/d-id/784422?

Only 120 megabit?!

[strong kettle]

its AT&T

[strong kettle]

my 4g is faster than that

[median idol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YVTnVAH2pFw?feature=share
This meme pretty much sums it up LMAO

[polar fern]

Uh

[full fossil]

5G won’t automatically be faster than 4G
It’s just generational naming
For example, the 600mhz 5G band is slower than LTE but covers far more land area

[strong kettle]

it is in my country

[full fossil]

Smh my h 😞

[polar fern]

Didn’t know this channel was full of racists. That’s really upsetting & honestly very disappointing.

[strong kettle]

2nd fastest wifi/mobile data in the world

[polar fern]

Thank goodness for the block feature

[full fossil]

Singapore

Here in the usa it barely works

[strong kettle]

yall get like 5mb/s ether dont yall

[full fossil]

Depends on the location

[long briar]

it's me... the guy with 80k messages and it's the first time I've been called racist lmao

[wind pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpkHRsXTkKA

[mortal kraken]

egress, upload

That is big speed for upload

[strong kettle]

it was yellow and hella windy in the morning for me

[full fossil]

That’s so cool

[polar fern]

Upload? I wish I had not deleted a few of my screenshots, but the upload has almost always been around that in the 5G LTE shared sites.

[strong kettle]

the leaves were flying everywhere

hella good weather for my physical exam i had earlier in the day

[polar fern]

I’d routinely get 250/140 when testing in verified deployed areas

With no significant noticeable effect on battery

“Don’t tag me weirdo”. Gotta save that one.

[full fossil]

im downloading a file 5 mbps is that good rn?

[polar fern]

On what type of connection?

…?

[full fossil]

umm telekom

ohh wait wireless

that might be bad

[polar fern]

Depends on the cell site & handset radio

Also depends on the broadcast profile

If you’re indoors and there’s lots of buildings & trees around, you’ll get a less reliable/slower connection

[hasty pollen]

You from balkan?

[full fossil]

yes how do you know?

[hasty pollen]

Cus i am too XD

[full fossil]

ohh i said telekom

[hasty pollen]

Yeew

[full fossil]

kind of around a few apartmants but that is it

[polar fern]

We call that T-Mobile here

[full fossil]

yes

[polar fern]

Neat

[full fossil]

Hrvatski telekom

[full fossil]

pretty shit

[polar fern]

It’s a big company. Global presence.

[full fossil]

We spent a few months in croatia, yeah it was super hit or miss

[full fossil]

i know and i live there 😦

beautiful landscapes
Horrific income inequality

man here kids are a diefrent breed they will call you slurs that you never even heard off LMAO

Has the switch to the euro been as bad as I keep hearing?

[full fossil]

horrible

That’s a real shame

scams everywhere

[polar fern]

Always wanted to visit Dalmatian coast.

[full fossil]

Yea got a couple buddies over there through the shift, they said getting their kuna replaced has been a nightmare

[full fossil]

they are right especcialy if you are working in the marketing industry

[full fossil]

that is beautiful i have been there

[polar fern]

A friend of mine sailed there on a sailboat from Southampton uk a few years back

[full fossil]

damn that must have taken some time

[polar fern]

Inspired me to go there unfortunately I don’t have the money for it.

Yes. Like 2 months.

[full fossil]

0_0

[polar fern]

they were at sea basically the entire time.

[full fossil]

yeah i wont sail there for 2 months just to waste 50 euros on like 2.5 scoops of ice cream

[polar fern]

I think they had to stop in Portugal because of severe weather.

[full fossil]

ehh was gonna happen eventualy

though here prices are skyrocketing

Everywhere really

yes

i mean 2.5 euros for 1 kilo of bananas is just absurd

[azure pewter]

uh does weed make ur eye sockets feel nice

[full fossil]

or was it 3

[full fossil]

such a random comment LMAO

[azure pewter]

well I think I did weed right for the first time

[full fossil]

intentionaly?

[hollow pulsar]

How is that related to LTT?

[full fossil]

it is not

[azure pewter]

srry ill go somewhere else but yes

[full fossil]

hahahhahahahahahahahaahahha

[mossy fjord]

Any sources of info on whatever is happening right now with O365? https://downdetector.com/status/microsoft-365/

[full fossil]

report outages?

jesus christ

[mossy fjord]

bigtime mess for muh users

[polar fern]

My eye sockets feel pressured

[full fossil]

go to sleep

[glass lantern]

Ehhh was kinda looking at the 6950XT and being like well if I sell my 1080Ti it's only £500 to upgrade, but like I don't really game anymore...

[polar fern]

Yay long Covid sinus issues 🥂

I woke like 2 hours ago

[full fossil]

oh

[hollow pulsar]

2 hours ago. Microsoft 365 Status twitter mentioned something about errors within caching infrastructure. They are directing affected folks to follow MO544165 in the Microsoft 365 Admin Center for more information.

[polar fern]

🤣

[glass lantern]

and a 1080Ti is still... 'fine' if I do want to game.

[full fossil]

put ice

[mossy fjord]

manythanks Corewyyn

[hearty spear]

it's as good as a 3060 for 3d gaming, so def still fine.

[full fossil]

ok shold i save 1700 euros to buy a laptop or idk any other ideas?

[glass lantern]

Pascal is starting to faulter in modern games though

[polar fern]

@full fossil it’s like a allergy reaction but there’s no allergy.

@glass lantern like zen+?

[full fossil]

oh you consome pills for that?

i use aerius and it gets the ob done

[hearty spear]

like how?

I was running a 1080 up until very recently, and never noticed anything other than "limitations of silicon"

[polar fern]

Nah. Long Covid is a mystery. Probably similar to lupus/autoimmune from damaged immune system.

[full fossil]

oh makes sense

[glass lantern]

to be fair I just accepted the word of some people I trusted not that I have the specific example I did ask for at the time, but yeh I do remember them sharing some examples 3 - 4 months ago

[polar fern]

Mhm

[hearty spear]

Pascal is still fully supported by nvidia. All driver optimizations apply there as well.
So, until that changes, it's mostly making up stuff.

The only thing a 1080 TI Lacks are newer features such as RT Cores, DLSS, etc.

[whole wagon]

Just a random PSA, if you're from the USA, you will be terrified at what information on you is out there.

Search yourself up on this, and then have a drink whilst you contemplate how they know this. Found it on Reddit, genuinely scary.

https://fastpeoplesearch.com/

[polar fern]

Is it worth getting a brand-new Zen 2 computer with the top shelf ryzen 7?

[glass lantern]

but it's not exactly supprising that Pascal wasn't doing well in some games considering the 1080Ti is 6 years old.

[full fossil]

19% food price inflation 2022 April to 2023 April

[full fossil]

i feel you

[hearty spear]

sure, but it's got enough raw horsepower to still to 1080p 60 in nearly anything.

[full fossil]

Also daily reminder to drink irn bru

[hearty spear]

just like a 3060 is doing

[polar fern]

@full fossil as someone on a fixed income, this has been an immense struggle.

[full fossil]

ok

[full fossil]

Same

[solemn marsh]

Eid Mubarak

[full fossil]

At least my irn bru's are still affordable

[polar fern]

My grocery orders used to average $30-$35 now the same items are around $50-$55 usd

So I just eat less and feel hungry more

Then I have these people on social media talking about intermittent fasting being good for you

Those people can take a long walk off a short pier and have a very nice time

[tardy terrace]

I prefer to graze throughout the day as I get inklings of hunger

[full fossil]

The way I save money is by skipping breakfast and eating smaller meals

[glass lantern]

not a bad investment considering I managed to snag it for £500 second hand after the crypto boom in 2018? I think. Just before the launch of Turing so people were trying to shift old GPUs both from crpyto mining and in preparation for Turing, which Turing was shit and I saw that coming because NVIDIA thought they could charge more because of prices during the crytpo boom.

Forgetting that yes a lot of gamers bought during the crypto boom, but that was because they believed the could get a ROI on the GPU so even if they didn't make a profit it was fine because they wanted a new GPU anyway they just needed to make enough so that the amount the spend minus the amount they earned in crypto would make it so that they were not spending any more than they usually would.

[polar fern]

Oh man, if I skipped breakfast, I would not make it through the day

I have a very high metabolism, and I can have low blood sugar moments if I’m not careful

LTT protein shakes when?

[glass lantern]

although as I said NVIDIA turned it around anyway because the managed to push up ASPs the next generation even at MSRP.

[full fossil]

Same, I've been eating much for caloric foods recently so I have managed to gain some weight. Went from 15kg underweight to 5kg underweight

[polar fern]

speaking of not skipping breakfast, I’ve had my tea which has a bit of sweetener in it, but I actually need to eat now 🤣

[near nymph]

Not surprised... It's America... They even out you on a list if you renounce your citizenship

[polar fern]

Those sites have been around forever

[full fossil]

I stopped that and I've lost 3kg ugh

[glass lantern]

And yeh I called that NVIDIA would try and keep prices up after pascal hence why I was willing to buy the previous generation just before the next generation.

[full fossil]

I have to eat like 4000 callories a day to maintain my weight

[polar fern]

Yeah my issue is that I can get very bad heartburn and if it does not go away I have to keep eating to keep it from getting worse. Then I can gain weight and my food schedule for the month goes out the window. 🤣

[near nymph]

You get citizenship for being born on US soil... Yet they shame you for renouncing

[full fossil]

I just don't want to and can't afford it

[polar fern]

Same for me, I need around 5000 cal a day or else I rapidly start to have low blood sugar issues and fall asleep throughout the day

[near nymph]

Can't afford as is broke... Or your health?

[near nymph]

Diabetes?

[polar fern]

No. Just a very high metabolism.

[full fossil]

Same here

[near nymph]

Lucky fucks

[polar fern]

I am a lifelong cyclist after all. I kind of trained my body to be this way.

[near nymph]

My metabolism is... Slow...

[full fossil]

The constant feeling of being tired is a pain

[polar fern]

I can get overheated very quickly if I don’t have some air blowing over me too. All related to cycling.

[stray apex]

The US also doesn't recognize dual citizenship

[near nymph]

It's like ya have a constant overclocked body haha

[polar fern]

When you’re riding a bike, if you want to cool down, you simply stop pedalling for a few moments & the air rushing past you pulls away quite a bit of heat

Yes exactly.

[near nymph]

They do... I mean... They allow it... I mean ffs they factor in Dual citizenship on NEXUS applications and stuff

[full fossil]

The best metabolism is the middle ground. To high and you have to eat like Nickocado Avocado and two low and you look like Nickacado Avocado

[stray apex]

Do they actually officially recognize it, though?

[silk wadi]

A lot of this stuff is public record. A lot of these websites just look at public info the government has on you and charges you money for it

[near nymph]

Eh... As long as they don't forcefully remove your citizenship like Japan... I consider that they recognize it?

[stray apex]

Apparently dual citizenship was actually banned until the supreme Court struck it down in the 60's

[full fossil]

I'm gonna get a duel citizenship with Lithuania and the UK. If I wanted to become a US citizen would I have to renounce it?

[near nymph]

No.

I mean there are a lot of UK-US dual citizens

[full fossil]

Yay tri-citizenship

[near nymph]

Tf would you want that...

[polar fern]

I actually know two people who have citizenship of three countries.

one is UK/canada/Spain.

[full fossil]

US, UK and Lithuania. I get acess to the EU, a failing economy and a technology powerhouse

[near nymph]

EU Citizenship > US citizenship.

The moment you become a Citizen. You are taxed wherever you go and alot of non-US financial institutions don't wanna touch you unless your filthy rich and need help hiding money

[polar fern]

The other is UK/Swedish/Dutch.

[tardy terrace]

I am pleased, I now have caffeine

[near nymph]

Me want swedish citizenship :3

[stray apex]

Hey, London is still great if you're rich

Simply avoid being poor in the UK

[polar fern]

The United States definitely has a list of problems, but if you go to any other country it also has problems. Nowhere is perfect.

[full fossil]

I'm pretty sure rich people don't enjoy London either.

[tardy terrace]

You gotta weigh the pros & cons of everywhere

[stray apex]

You just use the financial services

[polar fern]

I think the main issue with the United States is that lacks a lot of things that should have for a country of its. GDP.

[stray apex]

Why would you want to live in england

[near nymph]

Yeah... Just look at north Korea and china. They are communist yet they haven't eliminated poverty

[polar fern]

@near nymph back in the 1980s US president lowered the amount of people in poverty by lowering the poverty line. 🤣🤦‍♂️

[near nymph]

China did that also kek

Yet when you go to the country side you see starving children trying to catch a rat to eat...

No country is perfect 😂
People in the USA awe the Canadians with free healthcare... But it takes fucking 2 months to get a CT scan where I am

[long briar]

Canada healthcare is far from free

[near nymph]

It's not. It's tax payer funded

[glass lantern]

Ah don't you love it when there is a "deal" and it's actually the same price or more expensive than buying individually as if I am like "M4th R H4ard"

[near nymph]

Nothing is free... Something is paying for it

[polar fern]

Food security should be in the top three priorities on a global scale. If you have a population that is healthy and educated, you are going to see a lot more economic success. We talk a lot about brain drain and companies relocating to different countries for chip fabs and things like that. If you really want to compete you keep your citizens healthy, educated, and happy

[tardy terrace]

my current healthcare is free, given it's state-provided, just comes out of taxes

[long briar]

getting treatment doesn't actually take long for me, but at the same time it's a hybrid system. Gov't I believe puts some money in, but it is essentially a pool of money everyone contributes into and takes as needed

[tardy terrace]

Transitbiker out here controlling the world like it's Cities: Skylines

[stray apex]

I mean
Isn't that just single payer with extra steps

[long briar]

No

it means that I don't need to pay 20k out of pocket to get a finger reattached if it came to it

[tardy terrace]

I'd love to see charity fundraisers for urgent care locations

[polar fern]

And you wanna talk about competition? People who play competitive games online are far more likely to be successful if they are properly fed & they have secure housing and they don’t have to worry about if the electricity is going to be switched off.

[near nymph]

Haha... Some hospitals do that shit... If your poor and tell them that. They may take money from their foundation to pay off your debt to the hospital. Tax breaks lol

[stray apex]

How
You primarily pay for healthcare through a giant communal fund

[polar fern]

Okay, I need to eat now before I pass out from low blood sugar

[stray apex]

That's
Literally just how taxes work

[glass lantern]

I would like to point out though that uniserial healthcare appears to be cheaper given the example of USA alone.

[near nymph]

@polar fern devils advocate... If everyone has shelter, food and everything taken care of. What's the use for people to work? I think that will just slow down the economy. Which then... You won't have money to pay into these programs.

[stray apex]

You'll have an economy as long as people want things

[tardy terrace]

..As it should be? If a homeless person comes in with a rupturing gallbladder you remove it and make sure they're fine

[long briar]

it's single payer but you have everyone's help...

[stray apex]

It's single payer, except actually society pays for healthcare as a whole

[tardy terrace]

I absolutely hate the healthcare system for the most part. "I'm so glad you're doing better after surgery, here's a $40k bill"

[near nymph]

Eh I mean yeah... They won't be able to collect from a homeless guy anyways

[long briar]

by that logic the entire world is single payer

[glass lantern]

so yes you pay for it via taxes, but the cost to you is lower because of collective bargaining, although it doesn't help when there is litterally a law that Medicare and medicade can't negotiate drug prices.

[near nymph]

Lmfao so better to get a tax break than waste resources going after a homeless guy

[stray apex]

No?
The world doesn't help random Americans pay for their ambulance

[tardy terrace]

firemed \o/

[long briar]

no, by that logic we all pay to the earth

[near nymph]

Lmfao I was trying to wrap my head around private ambulances when I was down in the USA.

[long briar]

We take from the earth and we're apparently trying to restore it idek

[near nymph]

Theoretically yes... We destroy the earth little by little which enriches ourselves... But we will eventually pay for it long after we die.

[glass lantern]

also the removal of the pointless rapacious middle man which are healthcare insurers

[tardy terrace]

for US people firemed's a once-yearly paid service that's basically a free ambulance triage & transport whenever you need it, for anyone in your household

[stray apex]

?
If there's a fund that everyone puts money in to use to pay for healthcare
That is essentially single payer healthcare

[stray apex]

Lmao ambulance subscription

[near nymph]

Eh... I mean that sounds like an insurance company

[stray apex]

Yes
If the government is your insurance company
You have single payer healthcare

[tardy terrace]

for my house it's $65/year when an ambulance ride can cost upwards of $5k

It's good insurance to have.

[long briar]

I still don't understand this... DMS is a relatively popular audio reviewer and he couldn't afford to buy a headphone after an ambulance ride... like that blows my mind

[near nymph]

https://youtu.be/PtzKdwb31BA

[stray apex]

He probably doesn't make that much money

[near nymph]

Ive went past this hospital when I was down in Orlando. Jesus

[stray apex]

It's not like he can accept money from headphone companies, and it's a fairly niche market

[tardy terrace]

That's a big hospital,,

[near nymph]

Sounds like someone living beyond their means. Audio equipment are expensive 😂

[long briar]

Sponsorships + this was when he was flying solo

[near nymph]

It's also fucking sexy ASF. Never seen a hospital like this in Vancovuer

[long briar]

Now he's much better off now that he joined the headphone show or whatever it's called

[stray apex]

Sure, I still doubt he was even doing six figures solo

[tardy terrace]

I wanna have a full-depth tour of that place
I wanna see all the mechanical rooms and BTS with scanning equipment

[long briar]

oh definitely not, few people do

[stray apex]

And an ambulance can costs thousands of dollars

So
That could definitely be the entirety of his disposable income at the moment

[near nymph]

Btw Advent Health Orlando has its own fucking plaza basically.

[tardy terrace]

MRI/CT techs- I promise to not touch the quench button

[near nymph]

That's how insane the hospital is. Jesus

[long briar]

Yep. I mean the headphones were more of a meme product that he liked sooo

[full fossil]

Lol, people here don't take ambulances out of respect jeez you gotta pay for them

[long briar]

yikes.

[glass lantern]

Yes, but you are looking at it a diffent way than anyone who lives outside the US in a developed country, it would be much like to you what you would think of paying for a police subscription to have the police come to your house in case you have a need.

[full fossil]

What the fuck is a ploice subscription

[tardy terrace]

The big medical center near here is slowly building out bits of land nearby to expand their park

[stray apex]

Well yeah, it's obviously extremely stupid and inefficient

[near nymph]

Ambulances aren't cheap to run... I mean... Ffs every ambulance run I get charged $80 CAD (and that is subsidized)

[full fossil]

My taxes cover the ploice lol

[stray apex]

Unfortunately it also makes them a lot of money and bribery is sort of legal here

[glass lantern]

and a lot of developing countries as well .

[near nymph]

I was just in wow when I was in the USA. Holy fuck. The Hospitals there...

[long briar]

that's still cheaper than 1k

[stray apex]

The US has what is generally recognized as the best medical care available
If you're rich

[glass lantern]

Eh even then not so much

France and Japan are better

[stray apex]

Japan lmao

[glass lantern]

well unless you have a metal illness for Japan.

[stray apex]

I don't know about their general care, but I know for a fact that Japanese dentists are comparatively terrible

I've also heard anecdotes of Japanese medical care for foreigners being awful

[glass lantern]

I think you might be thinking of the UK.

[stray apex]

To the point that it's recommended that expats maintain contact with their general care doctor at home

And find a western trained dentist

[glass lantern]

and that is more due to attiude than the actual service.

[near nymph]

Eh... Unsubsidized

[long briar]

There is no subsidization (?) Soo... still cheaper

[near nymph]

Lmfao if I ever need a helicopter to save my ass... It's still $80. Pretty nice

[tardy terrace]

$848 for a groud trip is not that bad

[near nymph]

Well the service is kinda funded by the government so they aren't gonna shaft you...

[long briar]

Yep. and Americans don't like that apparently

[tardy terrace]

*lots of
don't broadstroke us pls

[glass lantern]

people in the UK just don't care as much the appearance of their teeth.

[full fossil]

No we don’t 😤 we’d rather pay $800 a month in private through employer insurance and then pay $20,000 for an ambulance 🦅

[polar atlas]

Hey guys I’m looking to buy a good gaming laptop around 1k I’ve found one and wondering if it’s good dm me if you want to see it

[long briar]

enough.

[near nymph]

There are publicly ran ambulances in the USA aren't that much also...

[full fossil]

G14 through best buy is $999

[glass lantern]

as long as they are functionally working as intended and are not REALLY bad tis fine.

[long briar]

Rog G14 2022 with 6800hs rx6700s

[scenic haven]

Holy shit

[polar atlas]

I want to a buy a G15 one

[scenic haven]

14 A MILE?

[near nymph]

Okay... Minus the milage part... The USA is kinda more spread out lol

[full fossil]

Then go buy one

[long briar]

these are in USD....

[near nymph]

This is flordia btw. Lmfao everything is spread out

[polar atlas]

Is it better than the one you guys recommended

[scenic haven]

Goddamn

[full fossil]

Sure but it’s going to cost more

[polar atlas]

Open Box - ASUS ROG Strix G15 15.6" Gaming Laptop (AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX/512GB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 3050

[near nymph]

850 CAD is $630 USD. So what

[full fossil]

3050 💀

[polar atlas]

This one is better?

[full fossil]

Lmfao, no

[polar atlas]

oh it’s not?

[scenic haven]

Man I love bulk billing

[long briar]

and?

[polar atlas]

Is it still good for gaming

[scenic haven]

Hold on how much do you guys pay for like life saving sugeries

[long briar]

however much we paid in taxes

[near nymph]

And? "Basic Life Support - Emergency" seems to be about the same amount?

[long briar]

not as good

[scenic haven]

Hoe much do you pay in taxes?

Do you pay taxes?

[long briar]

The point here is the government subsidization that doesn't exist in America

[full fossil]

All our taxes go to blowing up tents with $2.7 million warheads /s

The new vids feel so stale

[scenic haven]

Damn

[stray apex]

Actually, the US spends more on healthcare than the military

[long briar]

All taxpayers here are guaranteed healthcare coverage

[stray apex]

But the military uses single payer systems so it's way more efficient than health

[scenic haven]

"Healthcare"

[long briar]

where in USA... insurance companies literally have people. employed to ensure money does not go out

[full fossil]

And it’s one of the most inefficient systems in the world

[scenic haven]

They are putting that money right i0 their assrs

[stray apex]

The government actually has one big acquisitions office so they have massive negotiating power

[polar atlas]

Can ya check ur messages sir

[full fossil]

No

[polar atlas]

oh

[near nymph]

You realize MSP is government insurance right? So $80 is the deductible with insurance.

So fucking what. It will cost me $637 for the Basic Life Support Emergency package. To get me to the nearest hospital. 😂 Which is 1 mile away from me.

[polar atlas]

can ya check ur messages sir

[tardy terrace]

the android tv box video could have so much more detail about what kind of threats, digging through the files & checking them out w/ virustotal

[scenic haven]

Man I love the wan show

[tardy terrace]

but the devkit videos are always welcome

[scenic haven]

I barely even watch ltt anymore

[near nymph]

@long briar

[full fossil]

Ltt is practically just making mass market videos at this point

[stray apex]

Videos like... Telling people not to buy things?

[full fossil]

They've lost their charm

[near nymph]

The cost if I wasn't paying into the MSP program... Would be pretty much the same after exchange

[lilac sage]

like all huge youtubers?

[stray apex]

Galaxy brain marketing
"This sucks don't buy it"

[tardy terrace]

methinks that batch of videos was done during the staff move/rearranging

[full fossil]

No I mean they all feel corporate

[full fossil]

Oh yeah

[stray apex]

They are?
LTT has been corporate for years now

[full fossil]

You mean they’re successful and have gone mainstream

[long briar]

that's assuming you're not a resident of the country no?

[full fossil]

Guess they have less time for research and stuff

Hopefully this ruff patch smooths over in the coming weeks

[polar atlas]

Quaad the laptop u recommended can u send me a link for it

[near nymph]

WDYM. I get a fucking $600 bill if I'm not a resident of Alberta for an ambulance.

[full fossil]

No I mean in the last 6 weeks or so

Bruh

[near nymph]

It's not free across Canada. My Provincial health care doesn't cover me fully if I go to another province.

[stray apex]

That probably has to do with the increase in new staff and the fact that they're now trying to produce like, 25 videos a week

[full fossil]

Plus the moving

[polar atlas]

Could you?

[near nymph]

Last time I checked Volusia County doesn't discriminate if you are not a resident for ambulance services. In Canada it does matter

You get charged extra on top if you aren't a resident of Alberta lol

[full fossil]

This recent batch is the worst offender

Hopefully when moving is done they can go back to like a week ago

Cause these were bangers

[stray apex]

Don't really see the issue?
The keyboard vid is kind of boring, but aside from that they're all pretty decent

[full fossil]

There's a lack of detail

In like the past week or so

[near nymph]

@long briar think about it. If you are paying into insurance. Which is basically what you are doing with the MSP program in British Columbia Canada. The $80 for an ambulance. Consider it as a deductible.

[polar atlas]

@full fossil @long briar ASUS Zephyrus G14 14" Gaming Laptop (Ryzen 7 6800HS/512GB SSD/16GB RAM/Radeon RX 6700S/Win 11) -Open Box is this what y’all talkin abt

[stray apex]

I don't think LTT could get away with detailed explanations of a wii devkit or how android works

[glass lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/ohno-smh-wrong-no-gif-20802904

although if I were of colour in the USA I would might very well consider a subscription to have the police not come to my house unless they specifically have pretty good evidence against me...

[full fossil]

They could show you ways on how to identify the issues in the first place rather than just glossing over everything

[near nymph]

LTT is basically dumbed down tech stuff. It's what attracts the viewers. If you hand a case study for most of the LTT subscribers to read. You damn well know no one is gonna read that.

[stray apex]

They point out that there's really no way to tell before you buy it, and at that point you might as well just get something else