public-chat

[random jolt]

ye fiveguys is amazing, just had it for dinner lol

[full fossil]

For example, I attended MIT and even though I didnt attend graduation last year, the graduation was held on campus

[dreamy rose]

i wish i had dinner last night

[thorny axle]

5 Guys is awesome

[full fossil]

At my sister's university, now I had to drive all the way from Boston to Worcester just for graduation

[stray apex]

I mean, I'd argue that the fault lies with shitty journalism

[pine whale]

then we have this random guy ranting about college graduation 💀

[stray apex]

Although you could certainly argue that the media was paid off

[full fossil]

The school in question is MCPHS, and she was a bio major, not a future pharmacist

[gray hawk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's_legal_cases lmao there is a whole listicle on Wikipedia for McD's lawsuits

[full fossil]

That is since my sister's graduation is held in Worcester, a 45 minute drive from Boston

[random jolt]

i'd take talk abt burgers over college graduations tbh

[thorny axle]

Sorry we don’t stay on the same topic forever

[manic torrent]

So what though? Who paid the journalists. Who owns the papers and the tv networks. Who co trols the narrative

[thorny axle]

Go over to gg/politics if you want that

[manic torrent]

Yes that's not what I meant, I meant this is how it goes, because tort reform is boring 🙂

[gray hawk]

I think I'm banned from there

[random jolt]

nothing of value was lost

[thorny axle]

We can just discuss politics here instead

[vapid moss]

no you can not

[pine whale]

McDonald's is one of several businesses where someone claiming to be a police officer telephoned the business, and convinced the manager to conduct a strip search of an employee.

[thorny axle]

You saw nothing

[stray apex]

Anyways
Tech

[thorny axle]

Tech… yeah

How about that talk about apple moving to viet… nvm that’s still politics.

[random jolt]

wonder what grills they use at fiveguys

[thorny axle]

What is your go-to order at five guys

[gray hawk]

OK so I checked and i actually am not. I guess it was a different politics discord I got banned from. I'm persona non gratias so many places I cant keep track of it anymore 🤣

[stray apex]

Why can't Radeon fight Nvidia anymore
And why is it because amd spends all their money on epyc

[thorny axle]

Me personally, bacon cheeseburger with grilled mushrooms and onions, and if I’m really feeling hungry, an extra patty

[dreamy rose]

Microwave

[thorny axle]

That’s Subway

[mellow quiver]

3 patties 👀

[random jolt]

cheeseburger with extra patty, lettuce onion and bbq with oreo cream milkshake and small fries

[dreamy rose]

*burger king

[thorny axle]

Yeah, I have to be pretty hungry for that

[full fossil]

I am just kind of confused of why a school would have its graduation ceremony an hours drive away

[hollow pulsar]

AMD can’t fight NVIDIA?

[stray apex]

Where market share

[thorny axle]

I can hardly finish the fries, they just give you so many, even if you order small

[manic torrent]

Subway use convection ovens.

[timid meadow]

My usual burger order from the place up the street is 4 smash patties with mushroom, onions, ketchup and mayo. Pepperjack cheese. Aint quite 5 guys but its fire

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 4 set to be a Ryzen moment i guess

[thorny axle]

Who would’ve guessed

[random jolt]

yeah that's the good thing abt their fries, they just dump a whole other scoop in ur bag no matter which size u order lol

[hollow pulsar]

Oh. That might be changing I think.

[stray apex]

Doubt
Rdna1 was supposed to be a Ryzen moment
And then they had drivers that uh
Didn't drive so good

[manic torrent]

Anyone who has ever been to subway? 😛

[stray apex]

Also, Nvidia just doesn't stagnate like Intel did

[thorny axle]

You missed a joke twice

[stray apex]

Ryzen disrupted a market that was pretty stagnant

[mellow quiver]

Gotta do the Cajun fries

[stray apex]

Whereas Radeon is competing with the company that bet on AI twenty years ago

[dreamy rose]

Granted Drives are better now.

[thorny axle]

One time I had some fresh fries, and I kid you not, they were outstanding. I normally like their fries, but this was outstanding even for five guys

[stray apex]

Yeah, but the reputational damage was pretty bad

[dreamy rose]

for Nvidia fans sure

[stray apex]

...you mean the vast majority of the gaming market?

[random jolt]

yeah fresh ingredients does wonders

[thorny axle]

If you ask AMD, every release will be a ryzen moment

[hollow pulsar]

I tried running AI on my Radeon VII. My card was too old even for basic AI.

[dreamy rose]

that makes it bad?

[stray apex]

Gotta sell those GPUs that could've been an epyc

[thorny axle]

Nah, he’s going to look at some obscure population like popOS users and say the population there is AMD

[hollow pulsar]

No. Just completely useless for the current craze is all.

[dreamy rose]

linux users are using AMD.

[stray apex]

It does make sense that AMD would be investing mostly into CPU since that's by far the most valuable market

[thorny axle]

As for shakes, personally I can rarely finish one of those and a burger, so I’ve been getting regular drinks lately, but if I’m really feeling ready to barf, Oreo shake with double orea bits and cream

[stray apex]

But it does mean the GPU space is kind of frustrating

[thorny axle]

Called it

[dreamy rose]

2.6% are using a 1060, and thats linux's most popular Nvidia GPU

[thorny axle]

How have they been doing driver wise?

[stray apex]

Except the ones using Nvidia for AI

[hollow pulsar]

AMD GPU’s can have AI acceleration, bit you need a very recent one and you need to find an AI that can use it. Most are geared for NVIDIA.

[thorny axle]

So basically NVIDIA is better for AI

[random jolt]

yeah their oreo mixes are fire

[dreamy rose]

thats the Developers fault, not AMDs

[thorny axle]

What did you say your go-to was?

[hollow pulsar]

Either way, that’s the current situation.

[thorny axle]

It’s the gamer’s fault they play games that don’t take extreme advantage of Intel’s P-core E-core system, not Intel’s

[random jolt]

#public-chat message

[stray apex]

Yeah, I'm sure we'll start seeing more AI adapted to run on AMD
But like, especially for actual professional use
I'm pretty sure Nvidia dominates

[thorny axle]

Ah, so the same

[hollow pulsar]

If NVIDIA keeps being stingy with VRAM, they may hand AMD some winning moves.

[dreamy rose]

its thanks to neglect from Developers. this nobody purchased to help AMD figure out software.

[stray apex]

That's how it works
Market leader gets the dev time

[thorny axle]

AMD is arguably a long ways off from making a 4090 competitor

[dreamy rose]

then. it got so bad Nvidia lost their minds.

[stray apex]

Nah, the 8900xxttxx will draw 600w and have 4090ti performance

[thorny axle]

lol

[stray apex]

Meanwhile the $3000 5090 is actually just an a100

[dreamy rose]

nah, that's bullshit. they chose not to.

[thorny axle]

Nah, the last 3 numbers of the GPU will just be the wattage. Each X will mean +100

[stray apex]

They couldn't

[hollow pulsar]

Purely for gaming maybe. But if AMD can offer cheaper cards with more VRAM, AI models are going to really like that VRAM.

[thorny axle]

You are truly ignorant to AMD’s real capabilities

[stray apex]

Rdna3 is significantly less efficient

Rdna3 at 4090 performance would catch fire

[dreamy rose]

the DEFINITELY could have, the proposed it. they decided it wasnt worth it so they left it. Simple as that

[thorny axle]

AMD is not Apple, they’re not going to double performance just by sticking two GPUs together. They can’t make a 4090 competitor

[stray apex]

Maybe if they had a die size of epyc lmao

Fact of the matter is that AMD simply was not able to achieve the 4090 this gen

[thorny axle]

They don’t have the budget for the R&D, or the real market place to do it

[stray apex]

They would if they could
God knows they keep chasing the crown for some reason

[hollow pulsar]

At least not at the $1K pricepoint

[dreamy rose]

they could have, they decided a 1600 dollar 600 Watt GPU wasnt a good idea.

[stray apex]

Probably not even the 2k price point

[thorny axle]

I am 400% sure AMD would be happy to be in NVIDIA’s place right now with the 4090

[dreamy rose]

obv nvidia begged to differ.

[stray apex]

Cope lol

[thorny axle]

They would’ve been way less efficient, both thermally and power-wise

[stray apex]

Lovelace is crazy efficient

[thorny axle]

So, if you’re ok with a 1 kW 4090 equivalent just because it has AMD written on the side, then you have blind faith

[dreamy rose]

thats why they said NO.

[stray apex]

Yes
Because rdna3
Is not as good as lovelace

[thorny axle]

They said no because they can’t make a real competitor to the 4090, RDNA3 is just not efficient enough

Perhaps next time they’ll get a chance, we’ll see

[dreamy rose]

thats what i've said.

[stray apex]

Hope so
No faith though

[thorny axle]

I’m sure if they think they’ll be more efficient, they’ll dart right in to try to take the 4090 position

[stray apex]

Maybe the AI boom will make them invest more in GPU, who knows

[dreamy rose]

too Expensive, too thirsty. they said no.

[thorny axle]

Yeah, totally 100% what you’ve said

[thorny axle]

you hear about self-learning AI yet?

[stray apex]

AGI by 2030
I don't wanna work

[thorny axle]

I wonder

Imagine a world where nobody has to work anymore

[hollow pulsar]

That would be terrible

[thorny axle]

The AI doesn’t have to be 100% accurate, it just has to be more accurate than a human

Just like being chased by a bear

[stray apex]

I mean, the only reason humans are still employed is because until recently machines couldn't really learn

So with the continued advances in AI and robotics

[thorny axle]

If you’re with a group of friends, you don’t need to be the fastest, you just can’t be the slowest

[stray apex]

We're just gonna straight up replace most human jobs soon

[thorny axle]

I personally wouldn’t mind

[stray apex]

Tell the artists to learn to code lmao

[thorny axle]

Give me more time to do stuff I actually enjoy

[manic torrent]

the problem is distribution of profit, not work allocation

[thorny axle]

I’m starting to worry a bit

Though I suppose I shouldn’t, it has been good so far

[fluid ridge]

wall e society

[dreamy rose]

i'm not gonna be satisfied until i can build Virtual machines in a fully digital existence.

[thorny axle]

Plus, you probably need someone to maintain the AI

[fluid ridge]

make an ai to maintain the ai

[manic torrent]

you should be worried.

[thorny axle]

That’s a very pessimistic prediction

[manic torrent]

hardly

[fluid ridge]

i think its reasonable, within the next 200 to 300 years

[thorny axle]

Average conspiracy theorist:

[thorny axle]

lol, 300 years

[manic torrent]

dude all the conspiracies you need to worry about are blatantly obvious

[thorny axle]

You think it’ll take 300 years for AI to learn how to drive a car better than a human?

Or how to do your taxes?

[fluid ridge]

no 300 years for wall e society

[thorny axle]

You realize not everyone likes sitting in a chair 24/7 watching TV

[fluid ridge]

statistically tesla autopilot is already safer than human driving

[thorny axle]

Some people like to touch grass

[fluid ridge]

then dont do it lol

[thorny axle]

Exactly, there are plenty of people who won’t do it

[fluid ridge]

plenty of people who will too

[thorny axle]

Sure, look at how many people are actually obese

There are plenty of people who already do it

[manic torrent]

yeah that is a stupid metric for your point.

[fluid ridge]

free will moment

[thorny axle]

Really isn’t

The number will go up, sure. But it’s not like people will forget that we are conscious

[manic torrent]

so, no correlation with poverty or available foods or anything else

[thorny axle]

That isn’t even what I am talking about

You’re seriously defending the idea that humanity will become a wall-e world?

I really shouldn’t be worried about AI doing jobs for people like you

[manic torrent]

dude, I am pro basic income.

[fluid ridge]

bro why are you malding, it is completely within reason to assume that there is a possibility that people become dependent upon non human interaction

[manic torrent]

the wall-e world isn't one made by the people, it's made by Buy'n'Large.

[fluid ridge]

whether it be wall e world or not, the world will definitely be heavily disrupted

[manic torrent]

It doesn't happen because people WANT to be sitting down all the time eating food shakes.

People already act wildly against their own interests, in many cases, violently.

[thorny axle]

The wall-e world implies a whole lot more than just reliance on technology

[manic torrent]

it implies a world where there is no corporate regulation and they control all levels of the government and have no regard for the plant

that's SO unrealistic.

[thorny axle]

a whole lot more than that, and hopefully you know it

[manic torrent]

that's really all you need.

[thorny axle]

Forget it

Watch WALL·E again and ask twice about if you really believe that humanity will end up like that

[hollow pulsar]

Probably worse

[manic torrent]

If you think it's that unbelievable, LOL

wall-e is like more believable idiocracy

[thorny axle]

I think plenty of parts about it are unbelievable

Plenty as in enough to dismiss the idea entirely

[manic torrent]

which parts specifically.

[hollow pulsar]

A roach becoming friends with a machine might be unbelievable. Lol

[thorny axle]

The idea that humans will be completely unconscious of their surroundings, like not knowing what a pool is, and the idea of every single person looking effectively the same

[manic torrent]

hahahaha

[manic torrent]

yeah I don't think that's essential to the story really

[thorny axle]

This is a question about the world, not the story

I don’t think what you said is very important to the story either

[manic torrent]

hmm? that's also not essential to the world.

[manic torrent]

uhhhh it's literally the underlying premise

[modest sierra]

U guys ever listen to minecraft music late at night and become extremely nostalgic and want to end yourself because you know life won’t ever be as bright as back then

[hollow pulsar]

Nope.

[thorny axle]

Your brain is seriously messed up if you think corporate regulation is more important to the story than people essentially not even knowing of their own consciousness

Or the world

[modest sierra]

Fr

[manic torrent]

I see you are a student of not understanding media

The problem isn't technology. The problem is people

[desert ivy]

[manic torrent]

many people live like that today. blissfully ignorant of more or less everything. Literal NPCs

[thorny axle]

Not to that degree by any stretch of means

[manic torrent]

they believe what they are told, and they just go about life blindly

[hollow pulsar]

And then vote

[thorny axle]

And then idiots end up in office

[hollow pulsar]

Not the heroes we wanted. But the ones we deserve.

[manic torrent]

... and the corporations control everything... and then the world gets ruined .... and then you're at wall-e world.

[thorny axle]

Do note that it wasn’t a perfect world

[manic torrent]

huh what?

[thorny axle]

Planned obsolescence with the new blue suits

[elfin jetty]

[thorny axle]

So, still the marketing BS we deal with today

[manic torrent]

I never said it was - it also isn't relevant

[thorny axle]

You almost made it sound like a politically happy world to you

[manic torrent]

The fundamental components of the wall-e world are corporate hegemony, world destruction through neglect/ignorance, the cover up of such to the people, and the peoples blissful ignorance of what's happening because they are fed a diet of whatever garbage the corpos are spewing out. Ringing any bells?

[thorny axle]

You sound like one of those guys who overanalyzes SpongeBob episodes

[manic torrent]

The ship is just the next phase - you could have the exact same story not in space, but space is prettier.

[thorny axle]

Or someone who seems to always believe the apocalypse is just a decade away

[manic torrent]

.... it's literally what the movie is obviously about.

I'm not reading subtext here, it's right there in the source material

[thorny axle]

Still sound that way, even if it’s true

[manic torrent]

so you prefer to blindly consume media without any sort of discussion or context.......

[desert ivy]

It's like all you guys are doing is trying to contradict each other.

[thorny axle]

I did not have a political discussion possibilities of us ending up in a place like the WALL·E world, no

[thorny axle]

Isn’t that the whole point

Anger fuels the most, so cause them anger and they keep talking

[manic torrent]

this goes against your point that people do things though.

[desert ivy]

Only if you want to waste your time, by discussing something with someone without any prospect of arriving at any sort of conclusion or agreement. The jokes on you both TBH.

[thorny axle]

I don’t think the world will end up like a wall-e world

That’s it, that’s my point

[manic torrent]

much better to have no thoughts at all

[thorny axle]

We have extremists who will refuse to use the technology anyway, and plenty of people who feel uncomfortable relying on it who’d prefer to do stuff themselves

[desert ivy]

You can have thoughts. Engaging in antagonistic conversations is not better than almost anything.

[manic torrent]

a statement for which the evidence is scant at best 🙂

[brave lodge]

hi

[thorny axle]

I mean, I’m not sure how you’re supposed to end somewhere happy

[plush rivet]

more like people are scared of change

[thorny axle]

It’s a discord argument about what the meaning of WALL•E was

[thorny axle]

Your evidence is a kid’s movie from 2008

I’m sorry, but I don’t think you’re in a much better place

[manic torrent]

my evidence is look around 🙂

[desert ivy]

We have absolutely no evidence of the world going to a Wall-E state. For what is worth. In fact, quite the opposite, as Social Media has shown us that people like to go outside, play sports, dance, and pursue interests beyond staying at home.

[manic torrent]

.... that isn't the message of wall-e at all

[thorny axle]

I see normal people who don’t listen to media blindly, and don’t take their philosophies from movies made for children

[manic torrent]

that is the ark - the wall-e world is reasonably likely

[thorny axle]

I’m not sure who you hang around with

[tepid oasis]

the media is a echochamber of society

[thorny axle]

Seriously

[manic torrent]

many movies for children are nuanced and layered

[tepid oasis]

the media just tells you what you want to here. it is an embodyment of society

[desert ivy]

Exactly, which is why the world is not going towards a Wall-E future. As you pointed out.

[thorny axle]

They don’t know the future, I hope you realize that

[tepid oasis]

the future is so umpreditcatblle its crazy. just look at people in the 60's predicting 2015

[thorny axle]

Because something happened in a movie doesn’t mean it will happen in real life…

[manic torrent]

I never said anything close to that?

I didn't bring up wall.e as an example - the conversation was already started

[thorny axle]

Either way, nobody knows the future

[tepid oasis]

i think the idea of wall-e is intriging and has some insight of the aspects that might become normal in the future

[thorny axle]

Not you, not me, not even Linus

[manic torrent]

best to ignore it and assume it will be fine

[thorny axle]

You have that one cognitive bias thingy

Or whatever it is

[manic torrent]

... I have many cognitive biases

your contention seems to be - you can't know the future, so why try to make it better?

[thorny axle]

They had the two buttons people could press, and they tried to do it to help the graph, and it did nothing, but a lot of the people felt they had control

Basically thinking you have way more control than you do

[manic torrent]

yes, exactly

you have no control over anything, so do nothing.

nihilism, A+++++

[thorny axle]

My contention seems to be don’t worry about the future, just do your best not to ruin it

If you fear the future, have fun fearing

There will always be a future to worry about, living in fear is a choice, not a requirement to fix it

And I’m sorry, but you are a random citizen who probably lives in a really humble place with no voice to anybody except a couple dozen people on discord, so you won’t save the world, and neither will arguing about the deep meaning of WALL·E

[manic torrent]

TLDR: don't worry be happy

[tepid oasis]

optimism

[thorny axle]

I see no reason to not be happy

[manic torrent]

not... really.

[thorny axle]

AI has been great so far, why think it will all turn down and nobody will do anything?

[tepid oasis]

have fun being a fat deppresed loser then. no point in thinking negative if its inevatble

[manic torrent]

that isn't even close to what I said

[random jolt]

I give u... optimistic nihilism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14

[tepid oasis]

the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.

[manic torrent]

ah yes indeed, you cracked it I'm a fat depressed loser. Certainly not a person with complex thoughts and feelings on various issues

[thorny axle]

Totally my belief

[thorny axle]

Eh, I would definitely not call your thoughts complex

[tepid oasis]

facts

[thorny axle]

You seem like a very simple being

[desert ivy]

I think everyone that feels that the word is too dumb to figure out what's happening is a narcissistic person that feels superior to the rest of the world. And in my experience that's never the case.

[desert ivy]

Chill. Dude.

[tepid oasis]

sorry i ment towards the ideology

[manic torrent]

I mean, I am superior to most people in this sense. Objectively. I'm also an asshole, and various other things.

[tepid oasis]

people being negative is a real problem

[thorny axle]

You are superior to 22% of the world

[manic torrent]

and yet, you need to understand and accept problems in order to address them

[fallen cedar]

just turn that frown upside down

[thorny axle]

Or less

[thorny axle]

Have you done anything apart from arguing on discord to help this end of the world

[manic torrent]

you want to be plugged back in, unironically

[tepid oasis]

accepting solutions and offering solutions rather than ignoring the solution and focusing on the problem. kindda like climate change

[manic torrent]

no, I live in a basement and only communicate through discord. I don't even have legs.

[thorny axle]

So you haven’t done anything productive either

[manic torrent]

I work as a debt collector to make the world a worse place

to make money off others misery.

Primarily as a healthcare debt collector.

[tepid oasis]

blame the system for all your problems

[fallen cedar]

nice

[manic torrent]

I go after peoples families for money after they die.

[thorny axle]

Eh, let him dream

[desert ivy]

Not to burst your bubble dude, but, doubt it.

[thorny axle]

After he finishes his crane, he’ll save the world with his moving words

(On discord)

[tepid oasis]

i can almost guarentee he is probobily a little above average with iq and got good grades in school. but is miserable to be around and has never expierenced the touch of a woman before

[manic torrent]

I'm so lonely

[tepid oasis]

🤓

[fallen cedar]

[thorny axle]

He’s going to create socialized healthcare, socialized income, socialized everything, because total socialism is total balance, and it belongs everywhere

[manic torrent]

I'm unhappy because I eat, and I eat because I'm unhappy.

[desert ivy]

[tepid oasis]

🤥

[thorny axle]

Eh, I shouldn’t say that, some places are genuinely good

One of the places I mentioned, actually

[manic torrent]

Either that or I'm playing with ballons with my son as I type this.

[tepid oasis]

yeah your right. but most areas that think socalism is the answer end up being shit

[thorny axle]

104 IQ

[fallen cedar]

📈

[thorny axle]

Income definitely not one of them

[tepid oasis]

and if your in somalia 45

[thorny axle]

Lol

[fallen cedar]

45 is like literally r worded rite

[tepid oasis]

somalia is close

[brave lodge]

hi

[fallen cedar]

damn

[thorny axle]

Not there I guess

[brave lodge]

45 is sped

[fallen cedar]

at least they have some nice speedboats

[brave lodge]

mine is 102

[manic torrent]

it's possible I've been a firefighter, have a medal for it, been a scout leader, a foster carer for over 20 kids, a long career in IT where I'm highly regarded, been married for 18 years, but those are all rumours

[tepid oasis]

wow youk cant say the r word in this server?

[fallen cedar]

scout leader

no fun allowed

[brave lodge]

thanks for ur service firefighter

[manic torrent]

no, because it's offensive and unnecessary

[desert ivy]

That's not a nice thing to say. But being above average IQ doesn't qualify anyone to make judgements on the future, or society or anything. If you are not happier, if you are not more successful, if you don't have a family, or have influence on the world, or are an asshole; can you say that you are smarter than someone else? Really? Like you can score high in an IQ test but lack basic executive function skills to make something of yourself makes you think you are smarter.

[fallen cedar]

why is it offensive

[brave lodge]

i mean its a medical term

[fallen cedar]

and its funny therefore necessary

[brave lodge]

just say sped

[desert ivy]

If you need someone to explain it to you then, you really are in the wrong Discord server.

[fallen cedar]

sped makes me think of speed which makes me think of a great night out

[thorny axle]

Probably just rumors. You strike me more as a 31 year old who just scraped past all of those, and is really stretching the data

[tepid oasis]

no word is offensive thats just stuipid. society makes it offensive if people start using words like normaly then it will lose its value like every other word like fuck

[manic torrent]

I mean, that's objectively wrong, but go off.

[thorny axle]

Volunteered as a firefighter for like a few months, stuff like that

[fallen cedar]

cuz this is an NA only server or something?

[tepid oasis]

ahh yes an opionon stating no facts is objectivly wrong. you are very smart

[manic torrent]

few months/few years/ stopped because my son was in the hospital for months when he was a baby

[manic torrent]

"no word is offensive"

[thorny axle]

So about what I’d expect

[brave lodge]

no word should be

[fallen cedar]

agreed

[brave lodge]

if someone offends you, say fuckem and leave it

[manic torrent]

that's not how people work.

[tepid oasis]

yes no word is offensive. its the feeling you get from a word but if society normalizes it than the word loses its value and nobody gets offended. so therfore the only value a word has is the value given to it. no word has an inherent value

[fallen cedar]

it can be within a social circle

[brave lodge]

sadly

[thorny axle]

Just don’t say that word, it’s uncalled for

[fallen cedar]

no thanks

[tepid oasis]

all words should be socialy acceptable. if it isnt it just gives people who use these words more value

[fallen cedar]

agreed again

[manic torrent]

yes, except that words have meaning. they are not useful if they don't have meaning.

[desert ivy]

Cool story bro. Just don't say it here. There's rules.

[tepid oasis]

BRO YOU GIVE THEM MEANING. they are arbritrary

[fallen cedar]

dont say it cuz its the rulez

[thorny axle]

Nobody here wants to hear you say that word

[fallen cedar]

yes they do, me 🙂

[thorny axle]

And if you say it, you won’t be here

[tepid oasis]

🤓

[desert ivy]

Or try and circumvent the filter and get kicked out of the server. 🙂

[fallen cedar]

does saying r worded include that?

[tepid oasis]

every word

[thorny axle]

Yes

[fallen cedar]

k so every time someone says n word it means they basically said it

[manic torrent]

... "I don't understand basic communication or functioning in a society" for $500 please

[thorny axle]

Depending on context, yes

[tepid oasis]

the word itself dosnt cause anything its society telling youl to be offended by the word and you get influeced by it

[manic torrent]

because words have meaning. You might as well just write sdfiegfeidfvygahsdlfkgasidfgyawfyebidsfgbasyidfygsadfds

[tepid oasis]

who gives them meaning. GOD?

[desert ivy]

So what? Society still gets offended by it, so if you say it you are offending society, according to you. So why do you think it's ok to say it in this particular context?

[thorny axle]

No, Oxford dictionaries

[desert ivy]

I say it with my friends, because they don't get offended. Just not here, where it's not appropriate.

[manic torrent]

people, quite obviously. it doesn't mean that what you say doesn't have effects, and also it doesn't make it other peoples issue when you say offensive shit you know damn well is offensive, because you're "so edgy"

[tepid oasis]

because it dosnt matter. truth is im not offending anybodyk and if i am from just one word they prob got other issues

[tepid oasis]

offensive to who?

[thorny axle]

You were offending @manic torrent

[tepid oasis]

lol

[manic torrent]

yes, because words have never been used to subjugate people or 'other' them.

[thorny axle]

As well as, more importantly, a lot of other people

[manic torrent]

tbh that was mainly by sheer existance

[fallen cedar]

people that arent here?

[thorny axle]

The word does not just mean “stupid,” so when you use it, you offend more people, even if they aren’t here or don’t realize it

[tepid oasis]

ok that is the past. do you use the word bitch that was used to subjicate women but you still use it and its ok. thats because society has told you its ok. oh you can use these words. oh but these words there off limits cause the idea could offend someone

[desert ivy]

Maybe they have issues. But we already determined that society says it's offensive, according to you, and I agree. So if you want to be a part of society, you don't say the word. If you want to partake in antisocial behavior you say the word.

[thorny axle]

It’s insulting someone by comparing them to another group of people

[manic torrent]

.... yes. that's literally how the world works.

[thorny axle]

You insult both the person and the group

[tepid oasis]

the society should not care about the indidiual it should care about the group

[manic torrent]

and also I try not to use that word.

[manic torrent]

so it's society that's wrong, not you.

[tepid oasis]

xactly

[fallen cedar]

how is the comparison itself insulting

[desert ivy]

shoulda woulda coulda

[manic torrent]

guess what: they outvote you, and that's how society works.

[thorny axle]

If it makes you feel better, “should” is different from “does,” so whether you like it or not, you can’t say it without consequences

[tepid oasis]

cracker

[thorny axle]

Just call them “stupid” instead, then you only get a mute for being rude, rather than banned for offensive language

[desert ivy]

That's the definition of antisocial behavior

[tepid oasis]

?.

[manic torrent]

The good news is, we've found someone we can all agree is worse 😉

[tepid oasis]

me saying exactly

i was agreeing with him. im confused?

[manic torrent]

What even IS context.

[desert ivy]

No, thinking that society is wrong and acting opposite of it.

[manic torrent]

Hey google, what is irony?

[tepid oasis]

im not saying society is wrong and im not acting opposite of it

[thorny axle]

Guys, you know he’s trolling you, right?

[tepid oasis]

🤥

[thorny axle]

Just ping a mod, this has gone too long

[desert ivy]

I can't help myself.

[fallen cedar]

[thorny axle]

I have one of those horse heads, actually

[desert ivy]

I'm not a snitch though.

[tepid oasis]

am i breaking some rule?

[dreamy rose]

if something is made of iron, its Irony

[thorny axle]

Yes

[manic torrent]

brb, playing alley cat

[tepid oasis]

what rule

[fallen cedar]

34 xd

[manic torrent]

"try not to be a huge idiot"

[drifting canopy]

Loved that game

[thorny axle]

Idk, find it

16 probably covers it

[tepid oasis]

what have i said that warents that. im just saying that you give words value and you are just giving bad people the power when you give the the value when they say it. society is not wrong and i am not saying that i act in opposite

[desert ivy]

14 also broke it. When you started talking about why it was removed. But let's move on.

[tepid oasis]

yeah your right

[desert ivy]

We got Slowmoded by the mods already. 💢

[tepid oasis]

mods are big dumb heads

[desert ivy]

What are rules to this guy

[vapid moss]

slowmode has almost always been on in #public-chat

[thorny axle]

Can you turn it off?

[vapid moss]

yes but no

[tepid oasis]

yeah man its really annoying

[thorny axle]

Fair enough

[tepid oasis]

i feel like im about, to be banned

[desert ivy]

It feels like that's your objective. Be wholesome instead

[tepid oasis]

i got called an idiot

[thorny axle]

The mod is right there and he didn’t ban you

If you act well from here on, you will likely be fine. Another argument like that, less likely

[tepid oasis]

given my stance on words and my pfp. i think i will be banned

[desert ivy]

The mods are the pink roles

[random jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[tepid oasis]

🤓

[forest valve]

I prefer pretzels

[desert ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-palpatine-is-it-possible-learn-this-power-gif-17185041

[forest valve]

Anyone need some cheese?

We can have a party

[random jolt]

I'll take 2 wheels of cheddar

[desert ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-cheese-platter-charlie-kelly-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-4496383

[fluid ridge]

there is correctness in your assumption - when someone curses you out in a different language you feel nothing, at the end of the day meaning and power is given to each individual person

[tepid oasis]

🇦🇱

[forest valve]

Lol

[tepid oasis]

ALBANIA!!!!!!!!!!!

[desert ivy]

My favorite is Manchego cheese. I can have it all day.

[fluid ridge]

the guy who discovered milk trying to explain what he was doing to the cow:

[tepid oasis]

everyone should move to albania

[desert ivy]

I crossed the Albania border illegally by mistake. :P. Living up to the Mexican expectations 😛

[forest valve]

Hmm I would delete that

[tepid oasis]

🇮🇱

[desert ivy]

Apparently Mexicans need a Visa to enter but the border guards didn't bother to tell me and just let me through without stamping my password. So I got detained for like half an hour at the airport.

[fluid ridge]

why are all flags so ugly

there is not one country with a good looking flag except for canada 💯

[desert ivy]

I wish I could say I found Tirana particularly pretty. The people of Albania were cool though.

I'm sure the coastal towns or some tourist places would've been better to visit though.

[tepid oasis]

albanians are very racist though

i was walking around tirana and saw a n@zi flag

disgusting stuff

[fluid ridge]

add them to the list of every non north american and non european country

[modest leaf]

Albania is like the Alabama of europe

[desert ivy]

Every country/place that's not as economically as developed is going to have it's share of ignorant people. But at the core, just like in Alabama people are overall nice.

[fluid ridge]

japan? china? korea? i think any country that is a near ethnostate will be extremely racist regardless

[forest valve]

@vapid moss is he bypassing the bot?

[fluid ridge]

fuck man the asian countries hate the other guy across the river imagine a guy from the other side of the world

[tepid oasis]

context is very important there

[modest leaf]

Racism is sad

Humans suck

[tepid oasis]

to who? not white people lol

[idle nymph]

Racism is bad

[fluid ridge]

yep, racism is a product of a lack of experience

[tepid oasis]

product of realization without sentiment

[fluid ridge]

people have a tendency to start grouping themselves with people alike and alienating those who are not

[forest valve]

You are delusional if you think racism towards any race is okay

[idle nymph]

Racism in any form shouldnt be allowed no matter the ethnicity, the color, or the belief of that people

[desert ivy]

I've never been there. TBH. But I doubt it's thaat different at a personal level. Like overall people are nice; it's been my experience.

[forest valve]

This is the problem, people want people to not be racist but think it's okay to be racist to people because they have a certain skin color

[fluid ridge]

people are definitely nice - but that's surface level

[tepid oasis]

lol means laughing out loud and is a form of a joke. but its aboutk white people so it dosnt matter

[desert ivy]

Snitching

[forest valve]

Yes

[fluid ridge]

if you are born in japan, speak perfect japanese, lived there all 44 years of your life but you are not japanese you will never be japanese

[desert ivy]

[fluid ridge]

ok mr barrington there is only so much linus tech tips to talk about

[idle nymph]

[idle nymph]

🫡

Did yall watch linus New vid?

[tepid oasis]

oh no i made a joke is that not allowed?

[heady flicker]

what if you have a japanese passport

[fluid ridge]

i mean you will never be seen as japanese by those born ethnically japanese

also damn bro schizo got cooked

[tepid oasis]

what opinions

[idle nymph]

Thats weird, in France, you speak french, then youre french

[tepid oasis]

where?

[fluid ridge]

because that's france

[forest valve]

Baguette

[fluid ridge]

i said every non north american every non european country (meaning the majority of the world)

[idle nymph]

Fromage

[elfin jetty]

Ltt Baguette Holder

[manic torrent]

In Canada, milk comes in bags.

[fluid ridge]

some countries are definitely a lot more open and progressive with these things but it depends on the exposure to such things

also i have never seen bagged milk in my life here

ive seen bagged milk in asia before

[desert ivy]

I wish Riley appeared on LTT videos instead of just Techlinked. He's my favorite host.

Also Luke made an appearence in an LTT short. That was cool.

[idle nymph]

Would be sick qsf

[forest valve]

I would repurpose my ltt baguette holder

[elfin jetty]

[forest valve]

To hold my water bottle of course!

get your mind out of the gutter

[desert ivy]

When I was a kid, in my dad's small town, you bought a coke and they served it in a bag with a straw. It felt cool to drink it like that for some reason.

[idle nymph]

[elfin jetty]

I mean you can use it as a long tech sack

I really wish they went with sackface though lmao

[manic torrent]

my tech sack is huge

[urban vale]

how you doin

https://tenor.com/view/friends-gif-24442886

[wary summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NXwp-cchzsE?feature=share4

Lol I'm guessing you get like 4 bucks

[modest leaf]

What is a tech sack?????

[sand pumice]

Hey

[random jolt]

a sack for tech

[unkempt widget]

holy shit our pfps are so similar

[urban vale]

It’s where baby cables come from

[dreamy rose]

Playing DOS Games on my Win98 USB is amazing, PC backwards compat is incredible.

[urban vale]

I miss SimTower

[manic torrent]

Guys, the science is conclusive

[manic torrent]

isn't it so good to be able to use a PC. There's no other POSSIBLE way of playing those games.

[dreamy rose]

Using software to play PC Games on a PC is pointless.

[manic torrent]

provably false.

[lethal copper]

I wonder how bad would it be to try and run a 4080 with a 10700k 🤔

[hushed forge]

Bad

[lethal copper]

Cause to be honest I am considering upgrading my 2080 super genuienely, unironically, for Minecraft

[hushed forge]

👍

[lethal copper]

Really?

I checked some comparisons and it seems my CPU isn't in the 2x worse range from most of latest ones

[hushed forge]

Like 2 times bad

If you don't get the 12700k

How bad could it be? A 4090 on my celeron

[lethal copper]

Why would I get a year old CPU to upgrade a ~3/4 year old CPU?

At that point I might as well go for 13th gen because LGA1200 does not support 12th

[merry gull]

it's 4:25* am, who wants to hit me with a frying pan

[full fossil]

Is an i3 13th gen and rtz 2060 good combo?

i can hit you with a frying pan

my gpu usage won't go down it's stuck between 24-33% usage without any applications open doe anyone know a way to check what the gpu is doing or shut off what the gpu

[tired glade]

Is 13 gen Celeron already out?

[elfin jetty]

why would you want 13th gen celeron

[tired glade]

Extremely low power

[elfin jetty]

fair

[full fossil]

my gpu usage won't go down it's stuck between 24-33% usage without any applications open doe anyone know a way to check what the gpu is doing or shut off what the gpu

[elfin jetty]

you could also just buy an old used one

[tired glade]

Most likely it will be higher power draw

[random jolt]

use task manager and sort by gpu use

[elfin jetty]

how low of a power draw do you need?

[tired glade]

Sub 1w will be perfect

But most likely Intel doing something weird to not let it happen

[elfin jetty]

dude you arent getting under 1 watt with a celeron

[tired glade]

12 gen did it

[elfin jetty]

what is the point of running an already slow processor at the lowest possible power

[tired glade]

Storage vault

[elfin jetty]

fair enough

[tired glade]

Or ray of secondary network of home sensors

[elfin jetty]

I need to build a vault/ home server, i have a few old optiplexes

[tired glade]

Or sprinkler system

Back up is important

[buoyant orchid]

Guys what would you choose? 1080p with 240hz or 1440p with 165hz?

[near nymph]

1440p with 165hz.

[full fossil]

what are ypu using it for?

[stray apex]

The odds of you being good enough to benefit significantly from 240hz are extremely low

[full fossil]

@buoyant orchid

[cerulean saffron]

Can someone explain why Facebook/Meta dumped so much money and R&D into metaverse only for it to be made fun of and look like crap and be a money drain? I'm quite sure they're not that stupid...

[stray apex]

Because their main platform no do so good

[full fossil]

because yes

[cerulean saffron]

Instagram is still popularly used though

which is basically the same thing in a different format

[stray apex]

Sure? You don't become a tech giant by being good enough

[buoyant orchid]

6950xt

[full fossil]

ok but are you going to play any competitive games?

[cerulean saffron]

they're doing worse by sinking money into metaverse making it look like 2007 nintendo wii characters though 😂

[buoyant orchid]

Not really

[stray apex]

I seriously doubt that that's where most of the money is going

meta is doing tons of r&d on vr hardware

they're eating a loss on headsets
and also they were apparently paying vast quantities of top-tier talent to sit around doing nothing

[full fossil]

ok than you can go 1440p with 165 Hz in that case it might be a better option

[cerulean saffron]

even if it's not most, it's still a lot ... you'd think any sensible person would reject the results and ask them to start from scratch and make something that's actually good (better than 2007 wii)

[full fossil]

my gpu usage won't go down it's stuck between 24-33% usage sometimes spiking to 100% usage without any applications open does anyone know a way to check what the gpu is doing or shut off what the gpu

[stray apex]

the graphics don't really matter
the issue is more just that you can't make a metaverse first and then stuff to do in it later

the closest thing we have to an actual metaverse is like, roblox

or vrchat, if you're too cool for that

even fortnite's new tools bring it much closer to a real metaverse than what facebook has

[full fossil]

eh kind of true

how much money did they put into the project anyways?

[stray apex]

tens of billions

[full fossil]

wow

[stray apex]

and they still haven't like
managed to make anything people want to use

seriously, they could just make games
and do so much better

[full fossil]

true i mean if they just add more features and add some games that cold be a big one

[neat parrot]

Who is linus (wrong answers only)

[full fossil]

my dad

lmao

[cerulean saffron]

yup that makes sense

[full fossil]

i think that the metaverse has potential but right now its just not good

[near nymph]

thats what big tech does the best. burn money

[wind pulsar]

Don't mind me, that's just to spite @plush rivet

[slow fern]

Was an xbox 1X for 100$ a good deal

120 Hz at 1080p for 100$ is pretty good i think

[polar fern]

🤔

It’s kind of weird that no one mentioned the titanic sinking. It’s been 111 years.

and we still haven’t learned our lesson about proper design and preparedness and the culture surrounding reliance on technology and the fallacy of safety.

It’s very interesting because the titanic itself was an incredibly sophisticated ship for its day, but most people focus on the iceberg and the separation of classes on the ship, which was standard for most shipping lines of the era.

[rugged rapids]

refrain from my heart will go on starts playing

[civic fiber]

I fainally did it!

[summer folio]

💸

[civic fiber]

I got myself the Alienware qdoled

I got it on open box, for a really good price.

[tired glade]

It's still Dell product

[rugged rapids]

I am going to maintain a healthy distance from Dell, their stuff is overpriced and comes with bad software

Even hecking HP has a better track record

[civic fiber]

true but its so good

[civic fiber]

I dont regret it I had a tone of store credit at microcenter that I needed to use or i was going to forget about it. so I went with this monitor at about 900...

[keen whale]

Reminds me of some of my tieflings in Baldurs Gate Games or dnd games in general

[chilly sedge]

should i be using a DP on my gaming monitors (plural) or use HDMI instead?

[civic fiber]

dp

[wispy marsh]

Everything looks much better now

[chilly sedge]

why’s do better than hdmi!

[wispy marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595040888007295004/1097103331991765064/IMG_1120.jpg

[civic fiber]

it allows for higher data ratees to be out put on your display typically.

[chilly sedge]

cool, so when looking for DP cables, anything in mind i should look for?

[wispy marsh]

Ones certified by linus labs

[civic fiber]

@wispy marsh is correct, if you can find a decently priced one that they have certified, or the one that comes with your monitor if it came with one.

[wispy marsh]

I have a 50cm DP1.4 cable that I'm dying to get rid of

[manic torrent]

I have a collection of them

[wispy marsh]

[manic torrent]

that sounds very useful to connect... nothing.

[wispy marsh]

It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it

[manic torrent]

I don't use DP for any of my screens because of random bullshit reasons, so I have like 15+ hdmi cables.

[wispy marsh]

That is something I can get behind. I've been using DP when I can because my monitors only support 2k 144ph no DSC when I use DP

[manic torrent]

yeah my main monitor will do 4k120 HDR over hdmi or DP, and the others are only 1440 60hz. The trick is that they are all switched

[civic fiber]

I feel that

[wispy marsh]

The three exceptions for when I use HDMI are

1. laptop to any monitor
2. desktop server does not have dp (cpu 2600)
3. 4k60 j5create wifi dongle with my main tv that does not have DP

[tired glade]

Clean

[manic torrent]

I use HDMI for the main screen also because it goes into a matrix switch so I can capture it

[wispy marsh]

That's a dead 3090 on the shelf

[rugged rapids]

Then its a good deal

[civic fiber]

I have to use HDMI because of my labtop i use as a gaming computer

[rugged rapids]

[civic fiber]

yep

[dull tapir]

how much are lithium batteries lighter and are they worth for wireless mice

AA

type

[civic fiber]

I use a reachable razer basilisk v3 pro... I love it.

[wispy marsh]

I've only worried about AA batteries for my controller

[dull tapir]

well i am using g305

[wispy marsh]

I went from DeathAdder > G502 Proteus Spectrum > G502 Lightspeed

[dull tapir]

superlight and g502 are far too big for my hands i like egg shaped mice like g305 and orochi

it is 99g with battery was thinking of going to orochi but idk if it is worth the money

[rugged rapids]

Me who uses a Logitech M331 bcz its coloured blue

[dull tapir]

also hate it that logitech g hub does not show battery in software

[rugged rapids]

• it was cheap

[dull tapir]

does anyone know how much lighter the battery is i am not able to find it online

descriptions vary a lot and usually just say about packs not how much a single one weighs

[wind pulsar]

Kinda, but is just FFXIV

[sly parcel]

Damm this page is really bad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Sebastian

[wind pulsar]

I mean, it clearly says..

[glass lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbQXtMtn0q4

I think people are missing the trick here, NVIDIA is not expecting to sell cards. Yes there is also the factor of NVIDIA still wanting to sell off Ampere stock and not wanting to lower prices signficantly to do so, but that isn't the trick I am referring to.

NVIDIA is trying to push up the price per tier in a time where they were going to sell a more limited number of cards anyway due to the economic situation in the world right now, so that next generation when they don't price their cards so ridiculously people will eat the shit up even though they will have increased the price per tier significantly over Ampere,

[manic torrent]

not everyone - but basically yeah

[glass lantern]

Remember Turing after Pascal, and how everyone was over joyed at the MSRP price of Ampere even though you were getting a 80 class card for $700

like the mining boom happened so not many people could get it at that price, but still.

[manic torrent]

not just the mining boom

[tepid bolt]

I mean the 1080 had an MSRP of $700

[glass lantern]

So did the 1080Ti

[tepid bolt]

That's why Ampere was great (on paper) because we went back to Pascal prices.

[manic torrent]

the problem is there is no midrange

[glass lantern]

It didn't though because they released what should have been the 1080Ti as the 3090

[tepid bolt]

That card is an anomaly and doesn't historically match any previous products

The only card that resembles what the 1080ti was is the 8800gtx back in 2007

They were both anomaly cards

[glass lantern]

GTX 8800GTX increased performance over the previous generation by like 2.5x so not really.

And at this time NVIDIA was releasing the mid tier then releasing the higher teir and then dropping the price of the mid tier, they also did it with Maxwell

so no I don't think it is proper to say 1080 launch MSRP was $700 so Pascal pricing when NVIDIA launched the highend at the time with Ampere.

and Turing

[tepid bolt]

It beat two 7800gtx in SLi (back when it was a supported and developed technology) and not by a small margin.

[tepid bolt]

It's been replaced by the used market and last generation products

[manic torrent]

yeah - but the last gen new price is still $$$

[tepid bolt]

I'd be willing to bet AMD won't bother making anything under $300 from now on

[manic torrent]

I bought a 3070 in march 2021 for 1500aud... and a 3080ti 18 months later second hand for 700

[tepid bolt]

Especially since they put RDNA on APUs now

[glass lantern]

Like to be fair to Ampere though the 80 class card was based on a pretty lightly cut down 102 die so... it was still pretty decent the only issue was the VRAM 10GB

[manic torrent]

the 3070 was even more shafted with 8gb.

[tepid bolt]

I mean that's basically what the 80 class had been up until 40 series

[glass lantern]

Yeh that was really a kick in the pants

[manic torrent]

3070 should have been at least 10 if not 12

[tepid bolt]

3070ti lmfao

[manic torrent]

lol

[tepid bolt]

It's like fury all over again, people claiming low vram is fine because it's fast.

[summer folio]

4GB oughta be enuff' för everybody

[manic torrent]

my 3070 had enough power for 4k, but not enough ram.

[tepid bolt]

Not to mention Nvidia had the choice of releasing a 16gb model with the 3070ti but instead they decided to give it gddr6x

[wind pulsar]

I'm honestly just glad they made the 3050 with 8GB. I would've lost my damn mind if the main 3050 would've been the 4GB one

[manic torrent]

lol yes.

[glass lantern]

Well you would have to lower quality setting to run reasonable frame rates, but if it could have ran with high quality textures it would have been fine.

[manic torrent]

yeah but some games had stupid ram problems regardless

[tepid bolt]

Especially because you need high textures for DLSS because those don't get upscaled

[manic torrent]

3080ti is perfect though.

[glass lantern]

except for the price, wasn't it launched at like $1200

MSRP so at the time it was kinda meaningless.

[manic torrent]

oh, the price was awful. I mean for performance

[glass lantern]

Although 12GB is still a little lacking if you wanted to use it long term.

[tepid bolt]

40 series just feels like Turing 2.0

[manic torrent]

I started with a 1660S in 2020with a 1200p (x3) display.

[tepid bolt]

Great cards, great tech, horrible prices

Watch them release 40 series super models with more vram

[glass lantern]

Really I think the 70 class cards now with only 12GB VRAM are gonna run into issues as well.

[tepid bolt]

They already are lol

[wind pulsar]

Yeaaah, the SUPER cards will probably be better value than the normal cards, just like with Turing

[glass lantern]

in more than a handful of games, because a handful of games you can just say it's the games fault whether that is true or not, but when it's a signficant number of games you can no longer ague that.

[tepid bolt]

All I can say is RDNA2 aged better than anyone expected

[manic torrent]

Basically the standard recommendation for budget builds is a 6650xt

[tepid bolt]

I bet AMD won't bother releasing anything under the 7900xt until all their rx 6000 stock dries up

[glass lantern]

Eh really it's 6650XT if it's not much more than a 6600XT.

because the performance difference isn't worth more than like $30

[tepid bolt]

The 6650xt is cheaper than the 6600xt because the 6600xt is EOL

[manic torrent]

Yes but it's cheaper

[glass lantern]

Well yeh then

[tepid bolt]

But yeah if they released a 7800xt tomorrow all it would do is cannibalize into their 6950xt sales

[civic elk]

Any Aussies in the chat.
I'm looking at selling a brand new Gigabyte Aorus FI32Q X Monitor. Was won from an ESL Australia giveaway at PAX 2022, but they accidentally sent 2, so selling the second.
Retails AUD$1100, selling for AUD$650

The monitor is 32" HDR600 QD 1440p 270hz

Pickup in Hillsdale 2036. Postage available at buyers expense

[tepid bolt]

I wish I got accidentally sent shit

[dusty rune]

how do people get so lucky

its always the r/pcmr people or some random folks i dont understand it anymore

[tepid bolt]

Why won't anybody accidentally send me a new bugatti

[civic elk]

It's nice, I tried to contact ESL back, but all my emails bounced. I then contacted the PAX Aus contact I had and they just said I got lucky

[manic torrent]

But I have a 3080ti.... Realistically the 40 series gives me not much real world difference in.... Anything. Certainly not vs the price.

[dusty rune]

maybe it was a social experiment

[neon mesa]

i got one of those lucky cases, not a big win but a W nonetheless
got sent a 3200 CL16 kit instead of the CL18 one i ordered

[civic elk]

Lol

[dusty rune]

"if they write back, we leave it to them, if they dont, we take it back"

[dusty rune]

instead of a working powercolor fighter 6700xt i got sent a malfunctioning fan 6700xt

i win!

[manic torrent]

If you have an ice cream I will give you one. If you do not I will take one away.

.... It is an ice cream koan.

[tepid bolt]

If your dog shits on your pants, I eat it.

[neon mesa]

if you got a free iphone would you accept or accept and sell it for an actually decent phone

[tepid bolt]

I would scalp the hell out it

[neon mesa]

nominally if you sell, you will be worse off because you got a less value product but at least you got what you actually want

[tepid bolt]

Less value but more money in my pockets

[manic torrent]

Not worse at all. Because that's not how value works

A iPhone is of zero value to me.

[neon mesa]

you got an $1k iphone
you sell it and only got 800

now you can only get a 800 bucks phone

[manic torrent]

No you don't. You have a phone that costs 1000 at a shop

[neon mesa]

looking at it purely nominally you are worse off

[tepid bolt]

Or spend those $800 elsewhere entirely unrelated

[manic torrent]

That isn't the same thing.

[tepid bolt]

Would you rather have a $1000 device you don't need, or $800 cash.

[neon mesa]

that's just the same one as my question but rephrased tbh

[manic torrent]

Well, not just don't need, but can't use.

[neon mesa]

i of course would sell the iphone because fuck iOS

800 bucks could be spent on decent phone half the price and use the rest for my PC

[civic elk]

Id rather fund a new pair of ANC earbuds and start my PC upgrade

[neon mesa]

i kinda need a new phone because my S8+ looks like it came from a war zone

[manic torrent]

Bullet holes?

[neon mesa]

i mean the back kinda looks like bullet holes

[tepid bolt]

I'd buy some green curry and pad thai then pocket $770

[weak bridge]

buy 1000 USD phone in 2018
sell in 2020 for 800 USD phone
800 USD phones are now better than 2018's 1000 USD phones, or the 1000 USD phones are way better and you spend $200 for the upgrade while still spending 2 years having a 1000 usd phone

[neon mesa]

keeping money is moronic as they devalue quick
either spend it or invest it/deposit it

[neon mesa]

you're high if you think you can sell a 2018 iphone for 800

[manic torrent]

Doing anything is moronic because life sucks and everything is bad.

[tepid bolt]

I'm a moron

[manic torrent]

Make a decision? Bad. Don't make a decision? Bad.

[weak bridge]

you didnt read the message, so I'll leave you with a

[tepid bolt]

Y'know what isn't bad? Eating green curry and pad thai

[weak bridge]

[manic torrent]

Money? It's garbage. Inflation out the hizzay.

Investments? Are you ok with profiting off human misery?

[tepid bolt]

Reject paper money, return to trading of goods.

I trade you 380 chickens for your 4090

[weak bridge]

I offer you one corsair vengeance ddr4 2x8gb 3200 cl18 kit for 6 big oranges.

[tepid bolt]

Make it 12 ½ and we have a deal

[manic torrent]

A) lol paper money and not polymer, b) lol cash. C) yes.

[tepid bolt]

US bills are made of cloth and paper

[weak bridge]

our money is some weird combination of things, cotton and paper and hemp and metal

[manic torrent]

"I will trade you 1h of expert AWS infrastructure labour for this delicious meal"

[weak bridge]

this could work

[manic torrent]

But I don't carry or use cash, I don't even carry or use a card.

[tepid bolt]

Imagine carrying 4 goats when I don't even carry 4 dimes

[weak bridge]

i just give someone a rock and then show them a picture of my gold reserves and tell them the rock is worth $5

[tepid bolt]

Would need to trade one of them for a wheelbarrow

Is 1 goat a good trade for a wheelbarrow?

[weak bridge]

depends on the goat

[manic torrent]

Lol you don't need to do that. You just give them a rock and show what someone else was willing to pay for the rock

[manic torrent]

If it was new maybe. It would want to be a decent wheelbarrow.

[tepid bolt]

Black with white spots, good fur, minor damage on the left horn.

[weak bridge]

ill check kelly blue book

[drowsy cairn]

is there a way to know what architecture my car android tablet is?

[manic torrent]

in the 'about' page

[drowsy cairn]

tnks

[summer folio]

The banks are known to fail, don't trust them, put your money in the mattress. Yolo

[cerulean wedge]

Am I allowed to share my substack email news paper link I haven't written anything yet but I am planning to do so

[hollow pulsar]

That is probably considered “advertising”

[errant chasm]

i have made a very unholy thing today

[full fossil]

what have you made

[errant chasm]

linus but he's heisenberg

[full fossil]

why did you do that

[errant chasm]

linenserg

anyways

[mild current]

I've been trying to give my money away

The more I think about how much I can spend, the less I end up spending it, now I have more in the bank then I've ever had in my life

[hollow pulsar]

Nice. Keep it up.

[timid meadow]

I cant afford to give money but i try to find and fix cheap low end laptops and chromeboxes to give to homes in need of web access

[manic torrent]

I just spend all my money on cranes.

[full fossil]

hey guys is this html code?

<!DOCTYPE html><?php
if($_GET['n']==""){exit('<b>?n=name</b></html>');}
if($_GET['n']=="reset"){unlink('solved.txt');unlink('iteration.txt');exit('<b>Ready</b></html>');}
//$code = explode("|",file_get_contents($_REQUEST['n']))[0];
$code = 1034567802;
echo microtime(false);echo '<br>';

$a = file_get_contents('iteration.txt');
for($i=($a+1);$i<($a+4000000);$i++){
if($code==crc32(base_convert($i,10,36))){echo $i.'-'.microtime(false); file_put_contents('solved.txt',$i); break;}}

$b = file_get_contents('solved.txt');
if($b=="")
{file_put_contents('iteration.txt',$i);
echo'<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0.05">';}
else{echo'';} ?><html lang="en"><title>Test</title><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.5"><style>html{font-family:corbel; background:#ec9;}span,body,p,input,h1,h2,h3{padding:0.3em;margin-left:1em;color:#930;background:#dfe;}</style><?php

echo '<br>'.microtime(false);
echo '<h1>'.number_format($a).'</h1><h1>'.base_convert($b,10,36).'</h1><h1>'.base_convert($a,10,36).'</h1>';
?>

[hollow pulsar]

Write it to a text file. Rename the extension to “.html” and open it in your browser.

[full fossil]

ok thanks

[mild current]

write this to a file and save it:
X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*

[wispy marsh]

Everyone uses that test

Even if you're sme, regular enterprise or mnc

[mild current]

really great for speeding up the pc

[hollow pulsar]

Go for it.

[wispy marsh]

Technically, if a malware potentially slows down your PC and that eicar test file gets deleted, it means that your pc isn't clean enough.

You are right in that installing a good antimalware speeds up the PC because it gets rid of the phantom load.

Windef is alright nowadays, though

[mellow maple]

Guys help on tech support

[jagged juniper]

Good morning chat

[dense coral]

mornin

[dreamy rose]

i wonder where the Radeon Challenge is going.

[full fossil]

hell.

[dreamy rose]

Radeon not Arc

[sonic barn]

No

Banks only fail if everyone withdrawals. However in Canada it's backed by our government so it's easy to take out all that money no matter what

Up to 1 mill

[summer folio]

Same here, 1 million Swedish SEK is 100.000 USD tho.

Who wants to be a millionaire has therefor less price money over here.

[sonic barn]

I hate that you use . Instead of ,

[summer folio]

, is for decimals.

[sonic barn]

What are your decimals

See it's stupid

[summer folio]

37,0 Celcius is normal human temperature

[sonic barn]

Just use metric

[dreamy rose]

this implies 100 thousand. not 100

[summer folio]

I do?

[summer folio]

Indeed, I prefere to not use ,. at all tho so:
100 000

[hollow pulsar]

100k

[summer folio]

quick maths

[hollow pulsar]

10^4? (Did I do that right?)

[dreamy rose]

if you are using a Decimal then just type 100, if you say 100,000. you use the Comma

[summer folio]

water freezes as 0 C, Boils at 100 C

[sonic barn]

Metric uses . Instead of ,

[summer folio]

No, 100 k is either 100 000 or 100000 or 100.000
Never 100,000 which is 100 & 3x decimals of 0.

[sonic barn]

Yours is an abomination of the system

10.7cm is metric, 10,7cm is not

Even though both use cm, it has to follow its format too

[hollow pulsar]

Any idea why the comma is used instead of the period?

[sonic barn]

No idea

Doesn't Germany use this as well

[summer folio]

10,7 cm is 107 mm

"In Belgium (Dutch), Brazil, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Indonesia, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Sweden and much of Europe: 1234567,89 or 1.234.567,89. "

I think using dots for comas is primary an 'murican thingy

[sonic barn]

That has no bearing on the issue though. The naming convention is 10.7cm for metric where period is the decimals. It was made in France that way

[dreamy rose]

you write it 100,000 if you want to say 100 thousand. you Write it 100.000 if you have numbers after the decimal place.

[sonic barn]

It originated in France so no

[summer folio]

France uses , for decimals

[dreamy rose]

i have never heard of them being Swapped around. Everyone does it this way.

[summer folio]

Most of Europe do, since it's the normal decent human being thing to do

[summer folio]

No only countries that does not matter, like non EU countries.

[sonic barn]

I don't want to go to Europe

[hollow pulsar]

Dots for decimals makes sense to me though. “End whole numbers, begin fractional numbers.”
Same for comma’s for large numbers. “The numbers after the comma are a continuation of whole numbers.”
In this way it lines up a bit closer with sentence structure.

[dreamy rose]

its called a full stop for a reason

[summer folio]

37,0 reads as Thirtyseven comma zero in Swedish.

perfectly makes sense.

Can't have dots in the middle of a sentence.

[hollow pulsar]

Sounds almost like an airplane flight level to me. “Holding at three seven zero” (37,000 feet). Lol

[sonic barn]

The modern decimal point became the standard in England in 1619⁴. Before that, John Napier introduced using the period (.) to separate the integer part of a decimal number from the fractional part in his book on constructing tables of logarithms⁴.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 4/16/2023
(1) Decimal - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal.
(2) Did You Know: The History of Decimal Point – Pen Man's Blog. https://arindambose.home.blog/2014/04/03/did-you-know-the-history-of-decimal-point/.
(3) History and Metric System - University of Melbourne. https://extranet.education.unimelb.edu.au/SME/TNMY/Decimals/Decimals/backinfo/metric.htm.
(4) Numeral system - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeral_system.
(5) History of mathematical notation - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematical_notation.
(6) HISTORICAL ORIGIN OF THE DECIMAL SYSTEM - University of Florida. https://mae.ufl.edu/~uhk/decimal-system.pdf.

In France, the full stop was already in use in printing to make Roman numerals more readable, so the comma was chosen⁴. Many other countries, such as Italy, also chose to use the comma to mark the decimal units position⁴. It has been made standard by the ISO for international blueprints⁴.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 4/16/2023
(1) Decimal separator - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator.
(2) Why does Europe use commas instead of decimal points?. https://yourquickinformation.com/why-does-europe-use-commas-instead-of-decimal-points/.
(3) Why do other countries use commas instead of decimals?. https://short-informer.com/why-do-other-countries-use-commas-instead-of-decimals/.
(4) Which countries use comma instead of decimal?. https://www.readersfact.com/which-countries-use-comma-instead-of-decimal/.
(5) Decimal Points: Periods or Commas? | Proofed's Writing Tips. https://proofed.com/writing-tips/decimal-points-periods-or-commas/.
(6) Decimal Point vs Decimal Comma vs Other Decimal Separators. https://brilliantmaps.com/decimals/.

[hollow pulsar]

Except you do with large numbers. 😛

[dreamy rose]

i read that as Thirty seven. Pause. Zero. not thirty seven POINT 0. though at that point just say thirty seven.

[sonic barn]

According to bing, it provides an essay

[summer folio]

No, just 100 000 = 100k

[sonic barn]

So tldr, ISO internationally for blueprints is using commas. England introduced the period and used that throughout

[summer folio]

just use a space

[sonic barn]

I'm not in engineering though

[dreamy rose]

a space is a valid way to do it. but the Full Stop? definitely not.

[sonic barn]

Just use exponents

[dreamy rose]

tho really you should be using a Comma

[summer folio]

for decimals, agreed.

[sonic barn]

No

Only like 20 countries use it

[dreamy rose]

for decimals it is literally a Period. everyone uses it this way.

[sonic barn]

It's old

1.5 is better than 1,5

[summer folio]

Sweden invented Celcius so, 37,0°C it is.

[dreamy rose]

its the right way to present a Decimal.

a Period always Presents as a Decimal. a Comma is for large numbers.

[summer folio]

But new math is wrong also anyways

You always do
parenthesis before left->right,

[sonic barn]

How do you do fractions in your system?

(1/4)?

[dreamy rose]

this is the way its done

[sonic barn]

This is the way

[summer folio]

0,25?

[sonic barn]

This is not the way

[sonic barn]

Not decimals, but as a fraction

[dreamy rose]

you've gotta be kidding.

[sonic barn]

Do you write it like that

[hollow pulsar]

We need a universal delimiter. Not used for any other purpose than deliminating between objects that should be separate. “25,0.78” might be delimited by Excel as entirely different numbers based on localization.

[summer folio]

You can't do handwriting fractions on Computers, pretty sure

[sonic barn]

So no?

[summer folio]

1

4

[sonic barn]

1/4 is for computers

[hollow pulsar]

Just rotate it a bit: 1/4

[dreamy rose]

docs can correct a 1/2, 1/3 1/4 etc into a Symbol

i think its in Charmap too

½ absolutely

[summer folio]

I prefere to type in Windows XP Wordpad.
Word just takes up uneccesary space?

[sonic barn]

Programming uses / for division and % for remainders

[dreamy rose]

fuck word. i use google Docs to do my tasks

[sonic barn]

Android supports fractions like this though (⅞)⁹

[summer folio]

Never tried that except for shared documents for like, politics.
Does it not feel wrong having Google spying on your every draft?

local .txt documents feel more safe/quick.

[sonic barn]

Otherwise everyone uses (7/8)^9

[dreamy rose]

i'm using it for school idc if google watches me fail in real time

[summer folio]

They gotta guy on it, bet!

[summer folio]

So, 0,875^9?

[sonic barn]

You're using discord rn, all messages and your IP is logged

I get ads if I disable AdBlock and it's all stuff I talk about on discord

Even got ads for fursuits awhile ago

[summer folio]

Haha, this is true.
Also everything I talk on Facebook Messenger gets recommended to me on Youtube
So does Discord discussions.

[sonic barn]

Discord is free™

[dreamy rose]

quick lets Discuss AMD Advantage systems!

[hollow pulsar]

If something is free, you are the product.

[summer folio]

My friend talked drunken about wanting to nail his coworker before bed last night
YouTube Recommended page was the episode of South Park where everybody vomits when they see PRincipal & vice principal sleeping together first thing today

[hollow pulsar]

talks about free nitro so folks get ads for free nitro

[sonic barn]

Never got that

[dreamy rose]

thats gotta be one smart AI if it can relate the two so fast

[summer folio]

Am I a good product?!?

[hollow pulsar]

Lol

[dreamy rose]

why arent they using that to detect Crypto streams and banning them?

[neon mesa]

Nitro ironically be the thing keeping ads away

[sonic barn]

I just don't care about ads, I block em across my whole phone

[neon mesa]

For everyone

[sonic barn]

Rn my YouTube suggested video is "How to befriend a crow"

[honest plaza]

How?

[sonic barn]

Idk

[unkempt widget]

bro my recommended is this shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1iwR17fzGw

[sonic barn]

?

[dreamy rose]

"Dagoth Ur gets into Legos" for me

[summer folio]

Maybe because you talked about getting free nitro
& crows give you free stuff if you befriend them.

Not far fetched.
Haha, an bird pokemon.

[dreamy rose]

leaky bird

[sonic barn]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Fv7FVpEUkFY?feature=share
Also YouTube suggested this

Donald Trump, Obama and Joe Biden playing dnd

[dreamy rose]

eww, Short

[full fossil]

Rump, Obambnah, Boe Jiden

[sonic barn]

Joey

[summer folio]

https://www.youtube.com/video/Fv7FVpEUkFY fixed it for you.

[dreamy rose]

"Why did you come as yourself, aren't you dressed as an old Pedo?"
Bro these videos.

[sonic barn]

My suggested videos are good

[honest plaza]

Youtube shorts are currently about 4 months behind on trends

[sonic barn]

https://youtu.be/piTZgS5rktA

[dreamy rose]

the formfactor is shit. they can just make a toggle to remove it

[sonic barn]

This one is recommended too

The presidents go to sea world

And now since I mentioned furries on discord in another server, I get recommended a ton of videos on them

I require napalm

[dreamy rose]

cool

[sonic barn]

Not cool

https://youtube.com/shorts/2noI9UbDp-E?feature=share

[summer folio]

Nicer