public-chat

[near nymph]

She literally agreed to send it over lol

[main stag]

Not saying its a bug, saying its wrong and abuse.

I meant to bug YT publicly, that is how u get support these days, make a fuss on line to get big companies attention

[near nymph]

Well... As you see... Yes it can be abused... But it's how it works. If they wanna dispute the claim....ya hand over your stuff so they can sue ya

[main stag]

That is ridiculous. SO any stalker can just submit a claim, and get that Youtubers personal info???

[near nymph]

Not every stalker...

Just a stalker that's willing to play with the law. DMCA take downs I'm assuming they are doing?

[stray apex]

that's how the law works, yeah

[main stag]

In all the podcasts and other YT content dramas, claim abuse, etc, never heard of this aspect of it. All they focus on is those copyright troll companies, or just annoying things overall, or looking for money on add etc. But this, is, just, bad. Why nonone talk about it more.

[stray apex]

how are you supposed to dispute it legally if you don't know who to sue

[main stag]

She is UK, arnt the laws differnt there?

[near nymph]

WDYM. They do talk about it...

[main stag]

no they dont. never heard them saw or mention a case like this...ever.

[stray apex]

I assume that you're also required to know who to sue for copyright infringement in the UK

[dire yacht]

There are likely way easier ways to get personal info.

[main stag]

I have seen hundreds of cases of copyright trolls, or companies that claim background music, or a logo of something in the background for one frame...but never something like this

[dire yacht]

I'd assume so.
It's kinda hard to run a case against someone you don't know who is.

[near nymph]

Because they don't show you all of it. It's normal if you get enough copyright strikes your account gets suspended/terminated.

If it's one or two... Whatever

[main stag]

but they are not intending to make a case. or actually sue, none of those malaicious parties are.

[near nymph]

Cool then dispute it...

[stray apex]

that's not youtube's problem

the DMCA is very silly

[main stag]

now This is not related to her channel being striked to termination, it is differnt.,. There was only strike, she disputed. The person who made the strike is now impersonating her and claiming many other channels as her, and she is now in trouble for abuse of claim system. Because YT belvies she is the one filing mass amount of false claims on their platform.

[stray apex]

so did someone use her account to strike other accounts?

[near nymph]

Wait if there was only one strike....wtf didn't she let it lapse

[main stag]

using her personal info as proof they are her, i gather. in the claim details.

[stray apex]

uh

I'm pretty sure google needs your ID and stuff?

also I'm pretty sure that's identity theft

[main stag]

i gather the claim to her channel expired, but the personal info given to the malicious person, is being used by that person to claim mass other vids elsewhere, and they claim to be her. not sure more details., read the vid discription for all of it. either way, messed up.

[near nymph]

It's only given to them because she gave it to them

[main stag]

But, YT just gives her bots to talk to, cant get a human. typical

[near nymph]

Tell her to hire a lawyer? It's what I would do...

And have them send a letter to google 😂

[stray apex]

I'm pretty sure if someone's stolen your identity online you're supposed to contact some kind of law enforcement?

[near nymph]

That too...

[long solstice]

i got the mouse pad today from lttstore guys

[stray apex]

or at least a lawyer, yeah

[main stag]

yea... and, that cost a shit ton of $

retainer for a budget lawery, $10K. not sure how much in the UK

[near nymph]

Welcome to running a business.

If your livelihood depends on it... You gotta pony up for a lawyer

[stray apex]

it is pretty stupid that the best way to contact youtube is to get enough fans to annoy youtube about it that somebody notices

[crystal ocean]

lawyers are the best investment once u can afford the retainer ive had mine since college and with house hunting and investment propertys life has been a breeze (not super relevent but jut my 2 cents on lawyers)

[near nymph]

Legal expenses need to be accounted for when running a business. It kinda sucks

[main stag]

So waht happens then, when she is in UK, and person doing the crime is in FL, USA? Been told she already tried the legal route, lawyer said, nothing they can do. (on her discord channel)

[near nymph]

Then come after them in the USA

She have a lawyer or did she get a fucking random dude?

[crystal ocean]

wait so her lawyer is on discord....

hes not a good lawyer

she needs to contact us authorites if hes in america

[cosmic ore]

In general if you commit a crime in the jurisdiction of another country is it up to the a party in the other country to pursue action and for the home country to abide by extradition laws or to generally cooperate with legal requests

[main stag]

Florida dont recognize international law. not sure what that means. chatting with the people on her discord that know more. not lawer is on discrd. lol.

i gues they mean, that, same sich as with over seas scammers, they get away with it all day long, and no one can really stop them

like the spam and scammers that what you to extend your cars warrenty

[cosmic ore]

Florida does recognize international laws
Source: I live here

[crystal ocean]

no no over seas scamming is so big in india and middle east cause of their laws in america that dosnt fly she has to contact american authorties

[cosmic ore]

India has laws against it they just don't enforce it because of a mix of apathy and corruption

[crystal ocean]

well ye that but i was generalizing

[near nymph]

India is India 😂

[cosmic ore]

Ie they turn a sideeye and don't comply with requests or ignores reports

[main stag]

The problem is actually enforcing it.

YT dont care.

[crystal ocean]

eh not really i mean in america we are very strict

[near nymph]

Laws Only rly get enforce in India on the rich when everyone's eyes are on it.

[crystal ocean]

like theres no bending in america unless ur a multi billionaire even then its rare

[near nymph]

Lol

[main stag]

Ah. THis is what she says
"I cannot file a lawsuit against a US citizen and Florida is one of the states that has chosen not to enact any international law on its citizens
ironically though UK is the opposite: if a UK citizen does something to an Ameircan, American law applies and will be enforced by UK authorities
so basically SG has all the power"

[crystal ocean]

i got pulled over for doing 110 in a 90 (texas things) and i still got a ticket

flordia dosnt have power to decide that thats not how states work lol

[near nymph]

I can file a lawsuit against a US citizen. What the fuck does she mean.

[crystal ocean]

"Some extradition treaties address extradition of U.S. citizens to another country, while others do not require U.S. extradition of its citizens to a foreign country. However, the U.S. may still turn over U.S. citizens to another country without it being required by the extradition treaty."

the us has one with the uk they will

her lawyer might of failed the bar tbh

[near nymph]

Lol

[main stag]

what country are you in?

[near nymph]

I'm fucking Canadian. 😂

[main stag]

so...not UK citizen

[crystal ocean]

still an international country to us americans

she needs to contact the us embbassy in the uk

[near nymph]

You realize how the legal system in the UK and Canada are closely related to the point where you can study law in the UK and be able to take the bar basically in Canada

[crystal ocean]

not a lawyer

[full fossil]

who here is going to LTX?

[near nymph]

Sup.

[crystal ocean]

im going the for lan only lol

but sup

[full fossil]

i aint goin at all

[near nymph]

...

[crystal ocean]

oh ok....

[full fossil]

to be frankly honest

but it was nice knowing that there were people going

[near nymph]

The only difference is... Canada is more buddy buddy with the USA. But still a international country

[full fossil]

to the point were literally canada can ask to join the US and 99.9% of the time USA will say yes

[crystal ocean]

ye we are like we use to be able to go to canada with out a passport before 911

[near nymph]

Lmfao

[crystal ocean]

canada is the us's little brother tbh

[near nymph]

Die... No fucking way we will join the USA

[crystal ocean]

u love us ❤️

i mean u are our gas tank or use to be atleas

[near nymph]

Yes we do. how else am I supposed to illegally import firearms into Canada

[crystal ocean]

i mean come to texas

our gun laws

is like an index card

[near nymph]

Whoever drew the border knew what they were doing

I'm just showing geography... Nothing wrong

@crystal ocean lol Canada and the USA are so close we can hang out for half a year in each other countries without applying for special visas and shit. No need for Visa waiver either

[crystal ocean]

work visas are pretty easy also

[near nymph]

I hanged out in the USA for a month. The only question I was asked is what's my occupation and do I have the funds for the trip

[crystal ocean]

i was applying for a job in alberta and they said ye work visas are super easy

[near nymph]

I didn't even need to enter US soil to pass CBP. We have CBP in Canadian airports kek

[crystal ocean]

i mean it was also some guy in alberta which is like the most american province

lol

i mean u can walk into canada

i mean i did once 😮

[near nymph]

I walked into the USA to eat my subway. Then went back to Canada without crossing border checkpoints

Me and my friends jumped the US border and didn't get arrested.

[crystal ocean]

i was backpacking in north Dakota and we found the border

and walked over

[near nymph]

Wasn't there a big fat sign saying your crossing illegally? Lol

I was able to do that without getting introuble because we share the Peace Arch park

[crystal ocean]

there are signs

but we were also in the wilderness

[brave lodge]

herro

[full fossil]

Don't put this youtube ID into the web URL: PKfxmFU3lWY

[brave lodge]

you should alert the government of this issue

they may give u money for letting them know

[near nymph]

Huh? Where are you from?

[brave lodge]

usa

[full fossil]

good boi

[near nymph]

The Canadian government and the US government all know of the area im taking about

[brave lodge]

be like "hey mr president you have illegal canadians entering your country with no checkpoints ill let you know where for 1 thousand bucks"

[crystal ocean]

they dont care tbh

like lets be real

[brave lodge]

trump would care

[crystal ocean]

its a Canadian

[brave lodge]

they are passing his wall

[near nymph]

They even have a treaty. If the US government does anything to me over entering that area.

The Canadian Government is legally allowed to take over a CHUNK of Washington State

[brave lodge]

fr?

[near nymph]

Yup

[brave lodge]

[crystal ocean]

canada and the us have some many treaties like u use not need ur passport

[crystal ocean]

i mean canada and america are like so close

[near nymph]

I'm a Canadian on the USA side. Taking this photo. No passport checks

[crystal ocean]

we have mesumes we share and parks its a werid ally

[brave lodge]

wdym?

[crystal ocean]

the issue with mexico is the cartels and how they buy out the goverment so the us wont do that with mexico cause no drugs here

[full fossil]

found the new ltt intro https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xVVmtkHRPdQ

[brave lodge]

thermosity means i would wanna nuke canada...?

[near nymph]

Not only that... The chances of Canadians sneaking into the USA is far less than Mexico lmfao

[plucky sable]

Watched the latest video and wow. Those plots are rough. Decimal units all over the place.

[near nymph]

The Peace Arch is built on trust that we will return to our respected countries that we entered from.

[plucky sable]

Just round to nearest degree for presentation let's be real

[crystal ocean]

im talking about country's

[brave lodge]

[vapid smelt]

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/12/26/inside-the-library-where-you-can-read-in-two-countries-at-once

[manic torrent]

I mean, the prefix thermo has a whole bunch of applications

[full fossil]

[near nymph]

@crystal ocean Mexicans will illegally cross into the USA. Canadians well... Are less likely. That's why the peace Arch works

[manic torrent]

freedom isn't free, there's a hefty fuckin fee

[crystal ocean]

1776 🦅

[near nymph]

I mean our border is Soo fucking loose people are entering into the USA then illegally crossing into Canada for asylum until recently where they patched up the law

[manic torrent]

oh no, lines on a map, save me

[near nymph]

New York was sending migrants to the Canadian Border on greyhounds lmfao

[manic torrent]

imagine thinking people can be illegal

[near nymph]

We literally have a line IRL lmfao. They maintain a literally line.

[crystal ocean]

is like 60 feet of nothing

[manic torrent]

I understand how borders work

[crystal ocean]

the texas in me is about to get me banned

[near nymph]

Are you a Mexican? Kek

[crystal ocean]

no

im white lol just in texas we are of the belife your land ur right

[near nymph]

Are you not straight? Dunno why they would ban ya lol

[crystal ocean]

well i grew up down south on the border when i was 13-15 and we caught some people on our land

[near nymph]

Did you go pew pew?

[crystal ocean]

no no no

almost we had 50 bmg aimed at them

thats just texas tho

[near nymph]

That smells like freedom

[crystal ocean]

i mean that was my whole child hood i mean the amout of times ive shot a fire arm is crazy

[near nymph]

I was in Florida... Yet I didn't get the chance to fire a gun...

[manic torrent]

america->makes foreign and domestic policy decisions that directly and indirectly negatively affect mexico and mexicans.
americans when mexicans are fleeing mexico: 😮
americans needing cheap labour: I'mm get me a mexican.
Americans using BP/ICE to keep those people down and poor, and in supply.....

[near nymph]

Super disappointed. I wanted to shoot around an AR-15 which is banned in Canada. I always wanted to fire one after the famous news articles around it 💀

Lmfao my friend has a shooting range in his backyard in Florida. He just doesn't have a gun lol

[crystal ocean]

go to texas u can shoot a flame thrower

[manic torrent]

The problem is that the issue isn't "the border" - it's decades of all sorts of shit.

and I didn't say you did 🙂

more that a lot of people miss the bigger picture

[near nymph]

I just like making fun of Americans when they get triggered over me saying I jumped the US Border. It's hilarious.

And I have a literal video of me and my friends doing it

They think I'm jumping the US-Mexico border. Not US Canadian Border

[crystal ocean]

thats wild that people care its like a joke

well the us mexico border is like to me a texan its important i mean i had a friend in highschool die cause of the cartle so im a bit biased

[near nymph]

I stood at the pillar separating our country. Half of my nuts were in America and Canada hehe

[crystal ocean]

i lived like 40 miles from the border and the amount of dea people who came on our land looking for people is wild

prob less than 40 miles actually

[near nymph]

Can I pitch a tent in your backyard?

[crystal ocean]

i dont live there anymore

[near nymph]

I'll hang a Canadian flag there. I wanna fuck with the CBP and DEA

Ah... Dangit

[crystal ocean]

i live in between austin and dallas

cause i went to college

actually i graduated a year ago

in 24 days wild time flys

no shit

i went to a&m the better school

ut austin nice campus tho i went to alot of functions there lol

ye i know

[meager violet]

anyone here know how to set up a computer for destruction?

[crystal ocean]

elaborate

[meager violet]

like, unrecoverably destroyed

[meager violet]

want to detonate my older brothers computer as part of revenge, because he's like 21 or 22, has no job, does nothing but play games, annoys us all, takes our food and drinks, can't get a job because he can't make an effort to actually get his sleep schedule in check

[crystal ocean]

Do u have an axe

[meager violet]

he literally makes me feel like crap somedays

[crystal ocean]

How is he a monster lol

[meager violet]

and he's insulted like half of the family by this point

[crystal ocean]

Ohhhh

That’s a better idea

[left fog]

Anyone here mind giving a suggestion for a homemade NAS / Server setup? Have a question related to having the drives in a different rack mount than the 4u case... versus trying to cram it in one with everything else

[meager violet]

i'd rather blow his computer up, because it'll most likely get him a job after he cries about it for a week or so

[crystal ocean]

If that dosnt work take the side panel off and take a axe and some for the cpu cooler u will prob destroy the cpu vrms m.2 drive and then the second hit go for gpu

[meager violet]

actually

maybe, I can shock the whole system

[crystal ocean]

That’s stupid

[meager violet]

or spray water into the PSU

[crystal ocean]

Just take a axe and swing at center mass

My sister when we were younger was lazy and sat on her iPad all day till my dad shot it with 1 oz slug in 12 gauge

[spiral summit]

Just steal the CPU

[meager violet]

I want methods that leave no trace of my doings

[spiral summit]

Screw the cooler back in afterwards

[true verge]

Just pee on it.

Assert dominance.

[crystal ocean]

Ok if he leaves the house open the psu change the wires arround and we’ll the system might catch on fire

[spiral summit]

Short something

[crystal ocean]

When it boots

[vapid smelt]

Nuke

[spiral summit]

Nuke

[true verge]

Nuke

[plush rivet]

Nuke

[crystal ocean]

Take the green stuff from a smoke detector and have it short it when it turns on

[meager violet]

Green stuff??

[crystal ocean]

It’s sorta radio active but not enough to kill

[vapid smelt]

Does he not pay rent to your parents?

[crystal ocean]

It’s the isotope they use to detect smoke

[meager violet]

Nope, my mum will wait till he gets a job apparently

[vapid smelt]

So never

[crystal ocean]

I still think shooting it with a 1 oz slug is the best option

[meager violet]

You idiot, that's Americium-241. And radiation is blue

[crystal ocean]

Oh wow I was wrong about the color

[vapid smelt]

My parents rule is you could live at home for free only if you were going to college, if not you need to pay rent

[meager violet]

D'oh!..

[spiral summit]

The biggest brain move would be to cover the motherboard CPU socket with thin plastic film, then install the CPU over it

[crystal ocean]

My parents had us working 2 jobs one on the farm and one in town

[vapid smelt]

Did he ever have a job before?

[spiral summit]

Farm, huh? You have any ammonium nitrate nearby?

[meager violet]

I don't know, honestly

[random jolt]

boom time lol

[crystal ocean]

No I have no knowledge of this looks for atf

[manic torrent]

My rule is, you can live at home until the revolution comes

[manic torrent]

uhhhhh yeah it is.

[crystal ocean]

In smoke detectors I doubt it

[manic torrent]

it's just not in high enough quantities

[rose turtle]

Unplug his case fans

[crystal ocean]

It would just fry the electronics

[vapid smelt]

On my way

[crystal ocean]

I got kicked out at 18

[meager violet]

If you swallow the Am-241 source, you're mince

[manic torrent]

opsec is hard. also there's no way he won't know it was you

[vapid smelt]

I'm still living at home at 22 but have a job

[crystal ocean]

That’s different

[manic torrent]

I moved out of home at ... errrr... 20? 21? Anyway, point is it was 20+ years ago and it was a different time. There was no avocado toast.

[vapid smelt]

If the housing market ever crashes again I can move out

[crystal ocean]

I got a sweet deal on my house

It’s also Texas

So land is free

[meager violet]

What about spraying water into the PSU?

[manic torrent]

as if there's a choice

[crystal ocean]

I mean I’m 23 and I don’t rent it’s possible

[vapid smelt]

I thought homes cost more due to higher property tax since you have no income tax

[manic torrent]

exactly

[spiral summit]

Something to do with tax?

[crystal ocean]

It’s actually les then you think

[manic torrent]

unless you want to live somewhere that isn't in the middle of nowhere?

yeah that's garbage.

also: that's what they have observed, and it's literally true for them.

[vapid smelt]

Vandalism isn't the answer

[crystal ocean]

My work is in the middle of no where plus I can drive to Waco Austin or Dallas

[manic torrent]

honestly unlikely to do anything, and like I said, it doesn't matter what you do, you will get found out. Have you considered... communication?

oh, absolutely.

[meager violet]

I don't know what talking to a wall achieves, really

[crystal ocean]

That’s true I’m trying to buy some hunting land with some of my frat brothers and it’s been a pain in my ass

[timid meadow]

That comes from the state of things in general to an extent though for some products. Id rather pay a bit every month over time then pay 600 bucks at once for a console for example

[manic torrent]

started?

[vapid smelt]

Talk to your parents not your leaching no life brother

[meager violet]

I have talked to my mother, but I don't think she does much at all

[manic torrent]

There are also many subtle ways to fuck with people in a righteous way

[spiral summit]

Y'know

[crystal ocean]

If it worked on my sister and turned her into what she is it will work for him have ur dad shoot his computer

[vapid smelt]

And the Mormon LDS church

[manic torrent]

we covered extremely wealthy already

[manic torrent]

you need to focus that anger and attitude into things that have the potential for turning out well for SOMEONE. Ruining his PC doesn't turn out well for anyone.

true, but it was never not a thing

[vapid smelt]

@meager violet may I ask your age?

[meager violet]

14

[vapid smelt]

I was going to say get a job and build a better PC then him and rub it in his face

[stray apex]

well, no. people do actually react

why do you think we've started to see more and more unionization lately?

[vapid smelt]

Then we will buy rvs and live in national parks

[manic torrent]

The best revenge is living well

[stray apex]

you can bribe lawmakers as much as you want, if they piss people off too much they'll get thrown out

[manic torrent]

eventually? dude this is more or less already true.

[cosmic ore]

Good luck with the insane polarization going on right now

[vapid smelt]

We should bring back tar and feathering

[stray apex]

ah yes
the unions that have literally just formed are corrupt already

doomers are cringe

[manic torrent]

sounds like anti-union garbage perpetuated by capitalists to me

[cosmic ore]

I mean unions aren't all flowers and rainbows. Best friend is a trade electrician and has all sorts of horror stories with his unions.

[crystal ocean]

Unions are a scam

[stray apex]

being scammed by media who cares only for your attention into believing that the world is only getting worse is stupid

[vapid smelt]

https://insideevs.com/news/661735/tesla-cybertruck-testing-equipment-new-steel-wheels/ speaking of large shitty companies it's been 3 years since Tesla showed off the truck

[manic torrent]

lick that boot

[stray apex]

what the fuck do you think unions are

[cosmic ore]

Unions can easily become corrupt and only serve to better its leading members. I'm not saying this is always the case, but let's not pretend unions are universally amazing. There are still problems that need to be addressed on that front too

[manic torrent]

american capitalism isn't government regulated

[stray apex]

unions are regulated worker control

do you know what unregulated unions look like
the USSR

[crystal ocean]

Unions are politically motivated not worker motivated

[cosmic ore]

American capitalism is very regulated, just nowhere near as much as it needs to be

[stray apex]

the alternative to unions being peaceful political bodies is the capitalists being dragged into the streets

[crystal ocean]

Americas economy is so controlled

[manic torrent]

it's "regulated" but the businesses make the rules.

[cosmic ore]

Regulatory capture bb

[manic torrent]

"there are some potential problems with unions so they are inherently bad"

[stray apex]

that's... not what vertical integration is

someone who plows their own field, sows their own wheat and bakes their own bread is not in fact a baked goods monopoly

[crystal ocean]

My mom was in a union so I’m going off her experience not mine

[vapid smelt]

Funny how Microsoft started putting money into politics once they got accused of being a monopoly

[crystal ocean]

Oh ye big tech is a scam

[manic torrent]

and so that union is representative of not just all unions, but the CONCEPT of unions.

don't get me wrong, unions can be as corrupt and terrible as any body with power, because that's how it goes.

[stray apex]

also, unions paying people shitloads of money is not actually mutually exclusive with unions fighting for workers rights

[crystal ocean]

The nurses union is one of the biggest unions

[true verge]

I'm actually a local union president myself. I

[stray apex]

do you think you hire people who are good at fighting for workers rights for cheap

[timid meadow]

Was she active in the union? Or did she pay her dues and expect someone else to advocate for her?

[stray apex]

vertical integration gives you a competitive advantage at the cost of opening yourself up to more risk
not a monopoly

[crystal ocean]

No idea I wasn’t born yet

[manic torrent]

yes. Again - that doesn't mean anything in the general scheme of things. Like I said, power corrupts.

[vapid smelt]

I just want to point out your arguing about unions to a person with a Twitter pfp

[timid meadow]

Unions are only as good as the one (or preferably group) in charge

[stray apex]

only the finest discourse

[crystal ocean]

I don’t think unions help tbh

[manic torrent]

because you don't know anything about them.

[stray apex]

lmao

[spiral summit]

Feels like everyone on discord is from the US

[stray apex]

you can really tell when someone didn't go to a high school with a good US history class

[spiral summit]

Texas specifically

[manic torrent]

"you know what would suck? an organisation that was specifically started to advocate for my rights!"

[cosmic ore]

Florida here

[crystal ocean]

You’re right I’m a engineer we don’t unionize but that dosnt me a I can’t have a opinion

[true verge]

I've had a few wins as a union leader and a few losses. We're actually about to go on strike soon.

[vapid smelt]

Bosses/ companies don't fuck with workers if they have a good union to support them

[spiral summit]

I have met more Texans than any other place

Be it a country or a state

[manic torrent]

I'm not saying you can't have an opinion, I'm simply saying you're wrong.

[cosmic ore]

Then you just get fucked by the union

[stray apex]

yes, unionization is not useful if you're in a career that has personnel scarcity

[crystal ocean]

Well I think your wrong because we both opinions

[stray apex]

software engineers haven't unionized because companies compete to hire them

[crystal ocean]

Oh I agree that’s why I went into a job in demand

[manic torrent]

you can think I'm wrong, but you have insufficient data, knowledge, and experience for me to consider your opinion worthwhile

[stray apex]

in the future, once AI makes the role easier and the large numbers of people flood the workforce, they're going to start being paid less and given inferior benefits

[crystal ocean]

I mean what’s ur experience have u been in a union

[manic torrent]

ah, so everyone should do that?

[manic torrent]

I am a union, yes.

[cosmic ore]

You are the union? Fascinating

[manic torrent]

that, or I simply.... understand history.

@crystal ocean are you familiar with the industrial revolution?

[timid meadow]

Ive only been in bad unions and i still advocate for them. Couple assholes doesnt change their purpose. Just like my taxes not going where i like doesnt mean i get to stop paying them

[crystal ocean]

Ok you prob have more knowledge then me then just like how I have more knowledge in things I do cause we live different lives and that’s what makes America great

[crystal ocean]

I mean which one I know of 4

[manic torrent]

I find that I'm often better at peoples whole jobs than they are. There's no need to limit yourself. Also, I'm not american.

[tender geyser]

4070 launch tmr? or is it the reveal

[true verge]

People tend to forget that LTT isn't an American channel.

[manic torrent]

..... Do you know basic history?

[crystal ocean]

No I’m just a idiot u got me

[manic torrent]

at what age do you think children should be sent to the coal mines

[stray apex]

that's how capitalism works, yes
the most competitive entities win, limited only by the government

[crystal ocean]

Never

[stray apex]

mom and pop shops have inferior stock, often inferior service, and usually higher prices

if they want to compete with Amazon or Walmart, they need to do something different

[fluid ridge]

which is why you dont buy from mom and pop shops

[uncut axle]

I kinda wonder what people in my town would think if I bought a Honda fit/jazz in manual

[manic torrent]

oh, so you are in favor of unions.

[crystal ocean]

That’s sick…

[fluid ridge]

if you want god tier service amazon is up there

[uncut axle]

I hear they are fun, especially with low hp

[uncut axle]

As manuals ofc

[stray apex]

yes, that's what antitrust is for

[cosmic ore]

Unless you're the CEO*

[fluid ridge]

how about in principle

[manic torrent]

too bad it's useless

[stray apex]

yeah, US antitrust has been pretty toothless lately

[full fossil]

my brain is so fried rn and I need to do a 13 slide presentation + 700 words written minimum

[stray apex]

they're going after the MSFT-ABK merger for some reason
and not like
comcast?

[crystal ocean]

I’m in favor of fair treatment to all people unions do that but they don’t help everyone they Arnt balanced I’m in favor of self advocacy that just how I feel

[stray apex]

self advocacy is fucking worthless if you're not in a position that's difficult to hire for

[cosmic ore]

Or the big airline one

[manic torrent]

so you feel that because they aren't perfect, they shouldn't exist?

[vapid smelt]

did you know that unions helped push for federal legislation that resulted in OSHA

[crystal ocean]

I feel they should be better in order to be a thing

[stray apex]

yes
gilded age best age

why do you think they called it gilded
it's because it was the best

[manic torrent]

I can feel your privilege oozing through the screen.

[timid meadow]

They were better. Then people got brainwashed after getting all those rights

[true verge]

You can self advocate in part of union. Since union workers generally have better working conditions, you can look out for yourself by being in a union.

[manic torrent]

I mean, organisations literally spend billions on union busting.

[stray apex]

child labor has been a human tradition since we were hunter-gatherers
all these stupid laws do is prevent urban people from having children for the economic benefits

[timid meadow]

That too

[crystal ocean]

U don’t know my life lol and I have privilege…. I was being respectful to you do the same

[stray apex]

imagine how many more kids we'd have if your kids could earn $50 a day at the asbestos factories

[vapid smelt]

My work finally gave me non latex work gloves today only took reporting them to OSHA

[manic torrent]

you're an engineer. You are in a position of privilege as a skilled worker.

[full fossil]

What’s up

[vapid smelt]

Chat war

[manic torrent]

..... it kinda does. and it gives perspective.

[true verge]

Lets be civil guys. I know this topic can be very polarizing.

[timid meadow]

Gas prices

[stray apex]

I'm not listening to Elon Musk's hip hop album about the difficulty of growing up in an impoverished neighborhood

[vapid smelt]

Cost of living

[crystal ocean]

I agree

[timid meadow]

Everything but wages. Thus the need for the union convo

[full fossil]

Cost of living is really out of control

Food has gone up a lot as well

[manic torrent]

the fact that you react so badly to being called 'privileged' is also very telling. I am absolutely privileged in many ways. Doesn't mean I don't have hardships.

[crystal ocean]

I mean my life is still hard I mean I work 9-5 6 days a week doing hard math and problem solving in a environment that is behind I mean while I have job sucurity dosnt mean my job is easier or my life is easier

[fluid ridge]

he is privileged as a result of his hard work and expertise that puts him above most people

[vapid smelt]

$1 for a single Cadbury chocolate egg!

[manic torrent]

it literally does.

[manic torrent]

hahaha, ok you keep believing that

[stray apex]

so do you have to think about how many groceries you can afford

[true verge]

Unions created the 40 hour work week 😉

[stray apex]

do you have to put stuff back because your bank account doesn't have enough in it

[fluid ridge]

i do not understand how you think being an engineer is so easy 🗿

[full fossil]

Not that I buy it but $9.49 for cheese wiz at my local grocery store

[vapid smelt]

Wish it was 32hours

[manic torrent]

that isn't even remotely what I said

[stray apex]

have you ever taken out a loan to pay rent?

[timid meadow]

Right place at the right time with the right recourses plays into that alot. There would be alot more engineers if every kid had access to the same kit from birth

[full fossil]

Grapes, crazy prices

[fluid ridge]

i said "he's privileged because he worked hard to become an engineer and has skills and expertise that most people do not have" and you said "haha you believe that" 🗿

[vapid smelt]

Chips are too

[manic torrent]

that isn't what you said. You said he's better than other people because he worked hard.

[fluid ridge]

there is a fair implication that you think either becoming an engineer is not hard or being an engineer is not hard

[full fossil]

$4 a pound for grapes roughly here in Toronto

[timid meadow]

Because it implys everyone who worked as hard as they did would have the same opportunity. Which isnt true

[manic torrent]

I mean, it's not that hard. But my judge of 'hard' is not particularly good.

[fluid ridge]

if everyone worked as hard as he did to become an engineer and achieved the same results he did in school they would be engineers 9 out of 10 times

[stray apex]

I'm pretty sure it's been statistically proven that immigrants are much less likely to cause issues
and also they work for way cheaper, which would fix a ton of issues lol

[manic torrent]

absolutely, amazingly wrong.

[true verge]

I was in Toronto in Feb, the price differences from Nova Scotia are weird.

[stray apex]

do you think donald trump worked hard for his business empire

[timid meadow]

If they had the same tools he did sure. Not everyone can go to the same schools or get the tools needed

[full fossil]

@true verge crazy

[manic torrent]

too bad if he was poor, and was hungry all the time because they didn't have enough food, and couldn't concentrate in school because of nutrition.

[stray apex]

it's not hypocrisy to argue with data and facts lmao

[fluid ridge]

if you want to be an engineer and you work incredibly hard to become an engineer, working hard in school and getting into university, maintaining your GPA, internships, etc. you probably have a good chance of becoming an engineer

[stray apex]

we have historical precedent for why unions are a good thing

[full fossil]

That requires high math skills I imagine lol

[fluid ridge]

that is a reach that applies to a fringe minority of people in almost all core countries

[timid meadow]

A good chance is vastly different from your first statement

[manic torrent]

yeah but some people could work as hard as they possibly can, and could never be an engineer.

[vapid smelt]

Well I'm going to go eat dinner my dad made for me because I'm privileged enough to have loving parents that let their adult son live at home

[fluid ridge]

then their ability is not on par with his

[manic torrent]

ahhh, the fringe minority of people in poverty in america......

[stray apex]

*if you can afford to stay in school
*and go to university
*and have time to study
*and the connections to get an internship

[manic torrent]

which is what.... ....... it's luck.

[crystal ocean]

I’m so glad I got popcorn

[timid meadow]

"Woke" isnt a thing lmfao

[stray apex]

I'm really not surprised you use "woke" unironically

[full fossil]

@crystal ocean 👍

[manic torrent]

let me tell you - I'm much smarter than you. I'm not saying that to be an asshole or to bignote myself, but the key thing here is - I didn't make myself smart. I mean, I helped, for sure, and my circumstances helped, but I had very little to do with it.

[stray apex]

fundamentally, any belief system that does not respect the humanity of other people is wrong

[fluid ridge]

i completely agree, my ability is not on par with yours

[manic torrent]

haha, "personally attack" - you don't understand what a personal attack is.

[fluid ridge]

i cannot do 95% of the work you do

[true verge]

I'm self smarted.

[fluid ridge]

which is why you do your job and why i dont do your job

[stray apex]

lies
all those young men in syria who only know how to fight and have no other skills should've just taught themselves engineering with textbooks

[manic torrent]

"I taught myself engineering IN A CAVE!"

[stray apex]

learning computer engineering from first principles in a cave

[fluid ridge]

you can respect someone's humanity while taking account things like ability too

[crystal ocean]

@manic torrent I’m just curious what do u do are u a nurse teacher or somthing cause said ur in a union so I’m curious

[timid meadow]

I shoulda just spent more time at the library instead of dealing with abusive parents. Id be a millionaire. Why didnt i think of that sooner?

[stray apex]

ability has nothing to do with it
you can probably infer the beliefs of someone who talks... like that

[fluid ridge]

robert oppenheimer and your local drug addict are both people - there is no taking away this - but there is a clear disparity in capability and contribution

[manic torrent]

everything. But for money I am an IT solutions architect (sysadmin/coding/design/yadda yadda)

I am not in a union at all.

[stray apex]

the inability to respect the existence of other people

[crystal ocean]

Now I swear u said u were maybe you said u were idk

[manic torrent]

and one of those people caused disaster beyond imagining.

[stray apex]

fifty years ago you'd probably be advocating for the banning of left-handedness in public

[manic torrent]

I said I was a union, because I was making fun of your question.

[fluid ridge]

he arguably prevented a bigger disaster from happening, we can start speculating about WWII but that's probably irrelevant to this conversation

[true verge]

I'm a public servant. The whipping post of union jobs.

[stray apex]

go meet people, champ

[fluid ridge]

most of the folks here like to take the moral high ground and look down on everyone who does not happen to share their opinions

[manic torrent]

... yeah why would you want to respect people.

[stray apex]

I'm being condescending, genius

[fluid ridge]

the grandstanding is absolutely ludicrous

[manic torrent]

ok, now play that statement back to yourself reaaaaaaal slow.

[fluid ridge]

alright done

was there something i was supposed to catch?

[manic torrent]

So you are annoyed that your lower moral stance is looked down on?

[stray apex]

I'm going to assume that you're referring to things that were uh
"before my time"

[true verge]

Alright everyone... take a step back for a minute.

[manic torrent]

... and literally fuck your own face 🙂

[fluid ridge]

no, I am annoyed that you folks act like arbitrators of all opinion and any disparities from your opinion must mean the other party is a terrible person

[stray apex]

nah
all media invented before tiktok are useless

[timid meadow]

Ive never seen it but i know of the meme. "Im not your buddy, pal. Im not your pal, friend." Etc

[true verge]

Like everyone here needs to calm down a bit

[stray apex]

you're not necessarily a terrible person
sometimes people are just easily misinformed

[fluid ridge]

perhaps they really are misinformed, or perhaps they are misinformed because they don't hold your views

[manic torrent]

"you folks" - and we can very much disagree about things like which apple tastes better, but some opinions DO make you a bad person.

[stray apex]

if you do not believe that everyone else is human and deserves basic rights, then yes, I do believe that you are incorrect

while it's technically an opinion, I do treat the idea that everyone deserves rights as an objective fact

[manic torrent]

ok, you're going to need to be a lot more specific there old pal

[timid meadow]

People really need to stop hiding hate and stupidity behind "opinions". We're all the same, and if your advocating harm in any way your wrong. Theres no discussion there.

[crystal ocean]

Cheeder popcorn slaps

[manic torrent]

I am pretty sure they had a whole thing about it, something in the UN?

[true verge]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[fluid ridge]

I agree with you, people deserve their rights

[manic torrent]

exactly, so it is meaningless.

[stray apex]

but UN bad
doesn't even have a real military

[fluid ridge]

i am mostly libertarian, my entire point of view is that people deserve rights and nobody is better than another person

[stray apex]

even though UN peacekeeper white is the best AFV livery

[manic torrent]

libertarian is just another way to say "I'm going to be eaten by bears"

[fluid ridge]

that is not my interpretation of libertarianism

[manic torrent]

no, but it's the objective outcome

[stray apex]

no, you'll be protected from the bears by your feudal lord

[keen sequoia]

can u get any benefits from disabling cores ?

[fluid ridge]

save power

[stray apex]

not worth

[manic torrent]

https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project <- bears > libertarians.

[uncut axle]

Honestly i don’t wanna live at home for too long as an adult, although if I live here until my early 20s I’m definitely gonna help my parents somehow

[stray apex]

the idea that government should have limited power is not terrible, per se
it's just that the way it's interpreted is often
extremely stupid

[fluid ridge]

i do not believe in the abolishment of the state, nor do any libertarians that I know of, that's anarchism

[stray apex]

well yeah, it's all a spectrum and most people aren't that stupid
but the most vocal do tend to be uh
y'know

[fluid ridge]

I simply believe the government exists to uphold rights and uphold rights period, that is their sole purpose and any deviation from this mission is a deviation in what government is supposed to do

[manic torrent]

libertarians, in my experience, are young white men with little to no experience of the world, and an incredible naivety.

[timid meadow]

Dont be afraid to move back in after you get out. We all flop a time or 2, if your parents are solid parents they will understand and welcome you back openly. Weather your 20 or 50

[stray apex]

no, the government's job is to do things that benefit society

[manic torrent]

yeah so basically ancap.

[fluid ridge]

what happened to government of the people, by the people, for the people

[uncut axle]

Yeah i really have no idea that’s good on rn, I remember something about capitalism earlier, but idk what the topic is currently

[manic torrent]

... uhhhh ok dude. backs away

[fluid ridge]

i do not go that far

[manic torrent]

it was made in a time where the TELEPHONE didn't exist.

[fluid ridge]

the technology of the time may have changed but the ideals have not

[manic torrent]

also the "people" were rich landowners.

[crystal ocean]

You know imma say it cheddar popcorn is superior to all the others

[stray apex]

oh you're one of those people

[uncut axle]

True, if I still live at home in my mid 20s (i might stay even in my early 20s, idk, depending on if I’m making good money or not) then I will definitely try and help my parents as much as possible, getting the groceries, paying some bills, etc

[fluid ridge]

regardless of technology or execution, the principle is what i believe in

[stray apex]

nah, hot cheeto popcorn is fire

[timid meadow]

Ehhhh peanut butter or garlic parm are better imo but you arent necessarily wrong

[crystal ocean]

Wait that sounds good

[crystal ocean]

Garlic parm sounds good

[manic torrent]

yeah, you're being disingenuous. we KNOW you're deliberately being a douchebag, because ... this is real life.

[stray apex]

I've been around long enough to know what "quoting statistics" means

[crystal ocean]

Tf is wrong with you

[manic torrent]

"what guys, I'm just asking a question!"

[timid meadow]

Kettle corn is the real fire

[crystal ocean]

Have y’all ever had popcorn with peanut m&ms my girlfriend just made some holy cow that’s Peak humman

[timid meadow]

Find peanut butter popcorn. Its almost the same as caramel but with an extra yummy aftertaste

[heady flicker]

I like mine salted

[fluid ridge]

immigration is a great thing, and honestly america should make it much easier to get in because it brings a shit load of money and talent

[manic torrent]

hurrrrrr

[heady flicker]

a little bit of paprika doesn't hurt though

[crystal ocean]

Popcorn is just peaks

[fluid ridge]

that i can agree with 🫡

[crystal ocean]

They make pop corn with out the kornels

[manic torrent]

ooooh, so it's all the criminals

[crystal ocean]

I just learned it today

[heady flicker]

but the kernels getting stuck in your teeth is part of the experience

[crystal ocean]

Ur wild

[fluid ridge]

popcorn is just honestly not that good

[heady flicker]

now that's an even worse take than mines

[fluid ridge]

it's virtually flavorless and the texture gets really old really fast

perhaps it's good as a vessel to carry something like butter over

but at that point id rather drink butter like i normally do

[crystal ocean]

Popcorn plain sucks

[fluid ridge]

then popcorn sucks

[crystal ocean]

Imma buy a popcorn maker now I love popcorn now

[fluid ridge]

whatever that makes popcorn unplain is what is good

[crystal ocean]

Have y’all tried this thing called a Whirley pop

It’s what we used and the popcorn is awesome

[gilded quest]

Get the fuck out

[fluid ridge]

i actually pop my popcorn using an advanced device with invisible beams of energy and radiation to create the ultimate bowl (a microwave)

[gilded quest]

Stove + pan + oil

[fluid ridge]

the cleanup is a hassle

[gilded quest]

It's worth it

[heady flicker]

a wok will do 👍

[gilded quest]

[fluid ridge]

🫡 🍿

i am canadian by the way but close enough to america

[gilded quest]

Most Canadians are close to America

[fluid ridge]

yeah i could make it onto US soil within an hour and a half

[stray apex]

Uh, Canada is much less likely to be nuked

[fluid ridge]

i appreciate it my brother 🤝

[gilded quest]

Canada will be assimilated

[stray apex]

Who would even waste a nuke on canada

[uncut axle]

What was the whole thing about? I’m kinda confused

[crystal ocean]

Honnestly

[stray apex]

This kind of conversation lol

[uncut axle]

I remember seeing stuff about illegal immigrants, trump, capitalism, governments, etc

[full fossil]

just distract them with maple syrup

[stray apex]

Also people were talking about popcorn, but you're probably not asking about that

[crystal ocean]

Idk I just remember being told I’m privileged for being a engineer after talking about how some shoot their lazy brothers pc

[gilded quest]

I'm here for popcorn talk

[near nymph]

I just had to explain to my business partner. We need a tool chest... 😂

[fluid ridge]

you also underestimate canada's military ability

[crystal ocean]

I got bored of politics

[full fossil]

canada has never lost a war... yet.

[uncut axle]

Honestly i kinda agree with both sides from that screenshot

[fluid ridge]

out of the 6 longest confirmed sniper kills in the world, 3 of them were made by canadians

[stray apex]

Didn't you have to fire like half your officers for a certain kind of crime

[fluid ridge]

post WWII canada had the world's 3rd largest navy

[gilded quest]

War of 1812 sort of

[fluid ridge]

canada played an integral and imperative role in the liberation of various european states as well as on D day when canada alone took Juno

[crystal ocean]

Poltics arnt fun cause people get personal really fast that’s why at work we don’t allow political talks

[stray apex]

Yeah, and Canada also operates like ten tanks

[fluid ridge]

that's modern day canada

[uncut axle]

And the British done nothing, at least France did more, lol

[fluid ridge]

i have faith that our great people will one day see the glories of the canadian warriors once again, if the time calls for it 🫡

[uncut axle]

I love British slander

It’s so great, especially when it’s friendly jokes

[stray apex]

I bet somalia doesn't want that

[fluid ridge]

france surrendered quite quickly

[uncut axle]

At least they helped us gain freedom

[fluid ridge]

again, there is no need for canada to go into any active combat engagement because it would be overkill on our enemies

[uncut axle]

That’s one thing good thing they did, compared to the British who really did nothing

[stray apex]

I guess you could call that overkill

[uncut axle]

I don’t think the British really did anything to help us, i could be wrong

[fluid ridge]

i dont know what to tell you man, our history explains itself 🇨🇦 💪

[stray apex]

WW2 is literally the most documented war in human history (until recently)
How can you be this wrong

[uncut axle]

True

[near nymph]

Canadian military spending isn't up to NATO expectations. 😂 We basically leeching off the USA is kinda funny

[uncut axle]

Ig that’s true

[fluid ridge]

every country in nato is leeching off of america

[uncut axle]

I’m also so far behind in school, so idk really

[fluid ridge]

i said this earlier, nobody in nato cares about lithuania's 500 man army

it's about getting under the american and canadian umbrella

[stray apex]

nah, that's mostly the western european nations

[uncut axle]

Well behind for now, that hopefully wouldn’t be for super long

[stray apex]

eastern european NATO members tend to be much better funded and have significant ground forces

western nations tend to have better air forces and navies, though

[fluid ridge]

air forces are what matter

[stray apex]

since those are much more capital intensive, and if western europe has a lot of one thing it's money

[fluid ridge]

warfare in the skies can turn the tide of any battle

[uncut axle]

I would take a ged after 7th grade or something, but the thing is legal age for ged in Texas is at least 16, so I kinda need to wait a year before I can do anything

[crystal ocean]

I mean America is failing I mean China Russia and all our enemies are getting buddy buddy and our president can’t speak

[stray apex]

lmao
cope

"US dollar being replaced" kind of energy

[fluid ridge]

don't worry america has canada on it's side

[gilded quest]

I think we've seen just how well Russia can operate

[uncut axle]

Unless it actually doesn’t matter what age with the program I’m using

[crystal ocean]

By China who wants that

[stray apex]

people said that in the 90's too
guess what

[uncut axle]

We could still beat china or Russia with the help of a couple countries

[manic torrent]

Yeah china is absolutely not buddy buddy with Russia.

[stray apex]

when almost every country uses the USD as a significant portion of their foreign currency reserves
they don't like it if you try to destabilize the USD

[uncut axle]

Maybe even just Canada or the uk, idk

[fluid ridge]

an enemy of my enemy is my friend

[stray apex]

no, an enemy of my enemy is a great deal on natural resources

[crystal ocean]

China and Russia both need eachother let’s be real

[uncut axle]

The Russian army is just a joke at this point

[stray apex]

china and india are getting crazy deals on russian natural resourecs

[fluid ridge]

america could probably take on all of nato by itself, and probably also solo russia or china

[manic torrent]

Hahahahahaha

[fluid ridge]

idk about russia and china though

[near nymph]

I mean... India and China both want to replace the USD. and When China and India are teaming up... you know thats when shit is serious

[stray apex]

lmao no

[uncut axle]

Apparently they lost most of their tanks and stuff not too long ago

[valid siren]

Have you seen how russia's doing in ukraine

[stray apex]

india will team up with china the day china gives up the himilayas

[fluid ridge]

russia in ukraine is like america in vietnam, an actual skill issue

[crystal ocean]

You think they don’t? I mean together they all this land and resources and people it would good for both of them

[manic torrent]

Russia is over.

[near nymph]

I mean... BRICS

[valid siren]

Russia is not nearly as organized as the USSR militarily

[uncut axle]

We probably could with the help of Canada or something

[crystal ocean]

I hope I hate Russia I feel bad for their people

[stray apex]

brics is not an alliance
it's a convenient way for economists to refer to nations that were rising at the time

[fluid ridge]

bro i was memeing earlier canada isnt helping shit bro

[valid siren]

China's an unknown. They haven't really engaged in any major conflicts in recent history, so we don't know how effective their military is.

[manic torrent]

Dude. Do you understand the size of china

[uncut axle]

Canada or the British army (yes, i don’t actually hate the British), maybe some other countries, idk

[fluid ridge]

if you think canada is putting up any actual military deterrence to any adversary greater than south sudan you are sorely mistaken

[full fossil]

I keep getting this ad and they increased the price

[stray apex]

the term was literally invented by goldman sachs to describe a bunch of emerging economies

[gilded quest]

I assume the next war is gonna be china vs Taiwan

[stray apex]

like
I guess if your anti-US alliance was created by american bankers

[uncut axle]

Although we probably wouldn’t need much help to fight Russia or china

[stray apex]

uh
maybe reconsider your whole anti-USD thing

[uncut axle]

I mean look at how Russia is doing with Ukraine

[crystal ocean]

I’m still taller than all of them 🥱

[manic torrent]

Hahahaha. Yeah nah.

[full fossil]

Wait what the fuck are yall talking about

[uncut axle]

Plus if we really needed help, do you know how many guns we have here?

[gilded quest]

Nothing of use.

[fluid ridge]

until russia decides to deploy the world's largest nuclear stockpile

[manic torrent]

Dude. Pretending china is like Russia is absolutely stupid

[uncut axle]

People would probably help the U.S. military fight

[full fossil]

Public chat is a vat of acid infused with twitter

[stray apex]

russia is not in fact actively suicidal

[fluid ridge]

something something nothing else to lose something something cornered animals will bite

[uncut axle]

True

[uncut axle]

I would guess they are at a similar military strength

[full fossil]

The reasoning for this is because China actually got gud economy wise unlike Russia

[stray apex]

no, no nation is going to use nukes for anything short of an existential threat
because using nukes guarantees that you will no longer exist

[manic torrent]

You are absolutely completely wrong

[uncut axle]

Maybe they aren’t, idk

[manic torrent]

I mean... Yeah. That's kinda how it goes.

[fluid ridge]

russia has basically killed their reputation on the world stage, murdered their own economy, lose hundreds of thousands of men and are actively being embarrassed on a daily basis, with a leader growing more and more paranoid, more and more unstable

[stray apex]

so?
they still exist as a sovereign nation

the existence of the Russian Federation is not threatened

[full fossil]

Lol no, china's military is literally 10x more funded than Russia's and has far more modern equipment

[uncut axle]

Ahh

[manic torrent]

Not to mention, china has huge sectors of interdependent trade.

[stray apex]

for context, Russia has the same GDP as like, italy

[uncut axle]

All i really know is that they are super high up in terms of military power, that’s it really

[crystal ocean]

Guys Dw ltt is a military advisor we chilling

[gilded quest]

I don't speak European. What's Italy's gdp

[manic torrent]

... and training. And does exercises.

[stray apex]

russia literally has half the GDP of the state of California

[uncut axle]

Fr

[full fossil]

China has practically placed it self in the same position the US did in the 19th century

[gilded quest]

Ty 🇺🇸 🦅

[stray apex]

china does not enjoy America's strategic security

it's basically impossible to attack the mainland US, and it has been for centuries

[crystal ocean]

Texas has a bigger economy than most country’s common American W 🦅 🇺🇸

[gilded quest]

Unless the Canadians are up to something

[stray apex]

China borders india, it's right next to Japan and South Korea, and there are also a lot of southeast asian countries with strategic interests counter to China's

[near nymph]

USA is chill with canada. they dont rly have to care about us turning

[gilded quest]

iirc California is the world's 5th largest economy

[stray apex]

canada's problem is that they're totally unprepared to defend their arctic territories

[near nymph]

yup...

[stray apex]

I mean, the US will probably do it for them, but like
that's still pretty bad

hard to tell the US they can't have your natural resources when their military is there

[full fossil]

Most software I use day-to-day is made by any American Company and the hardware manufacturered in China.

[manic torrent]

This is why China wants DPRK. They don't give a single shit about them, they just want a buffer

[fluid ridge]

america has no military bases in canada

[near nymph]

Yeah... looks at the middle east

[fluid ridge]

canada is capable of defending itself 🇨🇦

[stray apex]

pretty much
it'd also be a huge pain in the ass if the DPRK were to fail

[gilded quest]

What if Canada is one large us military base

[near nymph]

um... they do...

[fluid ridge]

which one?

[manic torrent]

Nobody really wants that. So we just kinda pretend it's not there.

[fluid ridge]

impossible

[crystal ocean]

Ye csuse America has more skilled laborers then un skilled at this point I belive

[near nymph]

https://www.1af.acc.af.mil/Units/Det-2/#:~:text=Detachment 2%2C First Air Force is a United States Air,North Bay%2C Ontario%2C Canada.

[uncut axle]

Texas is just massive

[crystal ocean]

China has 30 skilled laborers total lol

[stray apex]

texas isn't even the largest american state

[crystal ocean]

We also are a hub for manufacturing

[stray apex]

no, china specializes in mass skilled manufacturing

[uncut axle]

Fr

[gilded quest]

Texas isn't first for size, economy, nor population lmao

[fluid ridge]

that's not a dedicated military base, thats just a communication hub

[stray apex]

you don't use china because it's cheap, you use china because they have shitloads of skilled labor that's cheaper than the US

[crystal ocean]

Alaska is I know 🙄

[uncut axle]

We also have plenty of oil here

[stray apex]

if you just need cheap unskilled labor, a lot of southeast asian nations are better

[near nymph]

@fluid ridge quit being nationalistic with canada. when there was a chinese balloon. We asked the USA to help us shoot down the balloon

[uncut axle]

At least i think

[full fossil]

Manufacturing requires alot of skill. Every part in the iPhone is made in China for example.

[stray apex]

I mean, at one point you tried to shoot one down with a cannon and it took forever

[fluid ridge]

america probably wanted to shoot down the balloon so they could analyze it and keep all of the secrets to itself

[gilded quest]

China/Taiwan/Japan/Korea

[near nymph]

No they didnt... we asked them to shoot it down for us @fluid ridge

[stray apex]

you realize that canada is part of five eyes right

[full fossil]

Compared to any Chinese province texas is literally nothing when it comes to Manufacturing of computer parts

[fluid ridge]

absolutely incorrect, the CIA probably pulled some strings up here and let it sail all the way down to montana or wherever it went

[gilded quest]

Did you ask us or did we ask for permission 🤔

[crystal ocean]

I mean with the work I’m doing we are getting to a point where the humman isn’t needed it’s kinda cool we are making in-line 6 engines for a company and when our plant is up 0 people on the floor needed

[fluid ridge]

also yeah

[crystal ocean]

We make more cars then them and more mechanical things

[near nymph]

"probably"

The point is the US Air Force was allowed into Canadian Air Space lol

to go pew pew

[fluid ridge]

there is no reason canada did not down the balloon itself other than on request of the americans - when it first entered canadian airspace it went over alaska IIRC and into the northern parts of canada where absolutely 0 people live

[stray apex]

the US has plenty of high-end manufacturing capability, it's just expensive as shit so consumer goods aren't practical to make here

[gilded quest]

Texas has a decent sized semiconductor industry TBH

[fluid ridge]

canada has it's own fighter jets

[stray apex]

apparently intel has already delivered chiplet designs to the US government

[manic torrent]

Jfc are you really this stupid?

[stray apex]

but still no consumer designs

[full fossil]

He's just stuck in his nationalistic ways.

[full fossil]

They have been doing so practically since they started

[near nymph]

Extremely outdated fighter jets. Old enough where one of the points in 2015 was... We shouldn't buy the F35 fighters. Then during covid we were like... naw... it's actually the best option

[wind pulsar]

Not worth listening to someone who has borderline racist agendas and clearly doesn't mind spreading them

[crystal ocean]

Holy fuck you are annoying it’s a joke like just shut up

[full fossil]

Tf is Spain doing on that list lol

[manic torrent]

It's... Not a joke.

[fluid ridge]

outdated but still extremely capable

the F18s canada has should have no issues against a balloon

[full fossil]

I never thought of Spain as a car manufacturing hub

[near nymph]

surprising canada isn't up there. I remember we have a good amount of factories up here making stuff for automakers destined for the US market

[stray apex]

I believe technically the argument against f35 is that it didn't follow procedure and compete properly
which is technically a good thing to do

[wind pulsar]

There's like a thousand people before you that said something stupid and called it a 'joke' afterwards, you're not getting out of this lmfao

[fluid ridge]

my point is the americans wanted to look at the chinese balloon so they most likely asked canada to let it fly into american airspace so the americans could shoot it down and look at it

[full fossil]

Canadians would've given the "ballon" to the Americans anyway

[crystal ocean]

And I should care why?

[manic torrent]

The thing is, there's a good argument for a mixed f35/18 fleet, because the f35 is amazing, but you don't need that all of the time. And the f18 can benefit from the f35s sensors.

[wind pulsar]

No clue how piss low someones ego has to be that they'd rather call it a joke than admit they've been wrong lmao

[fluid ridge]

yeah, either let them take it or give it to them

[stray apex]

eh, the issue is that f35a is actually just really cheap now

and it's not like canada has any carriers so

[manic torrent]

Yeah far more so than originally

[stray apex]

in 2015 it wasn't as stupid since back then the f35 genuinely was behind schedule and vastly overbudget

but today we know that the f35 program got the kinks worked out after an overhaul and it's now ridiculously good and relatively cheap

[fluid ridge]

canada had it's own cutting edge fighter jet at one point

[full fossil]

Because your being rude and acting like America is the only important country when in reality your loosing to China. All countries have a cycle. The 19th century was the British century, 20th American and 21st China

[fluid ridge]

the avro arrow

[wary summit]

@manic torrent do you know Woolworths Secret burger sauce?

[manic torrent]

It rings a vague bell

[near nymph]

@fluid ridge We are you praising the canadian military anyways and defending it lol

[fluid ridge]

because i am a patriotic canadian 🫡

[near nymph]

...

[manic torrent]

Canadian military acquits itself very well tbh

[fluid ridge]

i will not let canada slander go unanswered

[stray apex]

china remains behind the west in many critical technologies
and they couldn't play nice for long enough to get them all

[crystal ocean]

I don’t respect a country like China never will them and Russia are just two countries I hate not their people just the governments

[wind pulsar]

You called the entire population of China except 30 people 'unskilled'

[stray apex]

for instance
china was still buying russian jet engines until recently for the j20, iirc, because jet engines are actually insanely hard to build

[wind pulsar]

Tf you mean

[stray apex]

there's like, two companies that can produce modern jet engines and they're both american

[near nymph]

mhmm... I thought the russians have something...

[stray apex]

the russians have tech, they just can't afford it

well, they have jet engine technology
their stealth is... so bad that india dropped the program

which is why su-57 never really entered production

[near nymph]

India wanted to do their own stuff lol

[stray apex]

no, india is perfectly happy to buy russian equipment

[wary summit]

haha I'm in china rn 👍👍👍 great country bad government

[stray apex]

just not when it's terrible

[near nymph]

last time i checked india buys russian equipment and modify to fit their own use lol

[stray apex]

india operates a variant of the t-90, iirc

[rugged rapids]

Holy f**king shit

[stray apex]

I believe they also have some soviet aircraft?

[rugged rapids]

I habe to talk to my father today itself, Legion 5 is on an insane amount of discount 🤯

It’s down like 40%

[near nymph]

why not buy it yourself?

[tiny saffron]

Nice, get that if you need and can

[drowsy sable]

usa>china

[wind pulsar]

..

[rugged rapids]

I turned 18 like…2 months ago? Out here we live with our parents

[near nymph]

ah... makes sense.

[rugged rapids]

Yeah my old PC died, I was gonna get one in a month or 2 anyway

[tiny saffron]

That dat stuff should last you 5 more years

[rugged rapids]

Ye

[tiny saffron]

Should be fine for most school work and gaming needs

[rugged rapids]

Both the AMD and Intel ones are down, but Intel is a bit expensive, well AMD def isn’t bad

[stray apex]

amd on mobile is generally better rn

[rugged rapids]

For sure

[manic torrent]

You have no idea what you're even talking about

[rugged rapids]

It’s 6800H for one, and 12700H for the other, 12700H def better

[tiny saffron]

Ehh in the end both should be enough for most people

It's not like you'll need to run simulation or anything

[rugged rapids]

I’ve been developing a few 2D games, wanna get into 3D too

[tiny saffron]

My laptop was a pretty decent when I was trying to learn AutoCAD

Modern one should do a pretty good job

[rugged rapids]

Both are fine, might just go for AMD because cheaper

[tiny saffron]

Just get more RAM if you can

[rugged rapids]

Almost a $200 difference

[tiny saffron]

Yeesh

[brave lodge]

Knock knock

[rugged rapids]

Oh the AMD one is also white

[deep niche]

hi guys

[rugged rapids]

I can live with that probably need to call them and see if I can preview how bright the white is

Hello hello

[brave lodge]

Nock nock

[deep niche]

ji need afavor for some1 and after ill give u like a 50 buck giftcard

[tiny saffron]

If you mind the colour just DBrand it

[deep niche]

dm me if ur down

[rugged rapids]

DBrand doesn’t sell here 😦

[tiny saffron]

Same

[rugged rapids]

Wanted to get my iPad fitted

[deep niche]

my wifi is so shit lol

[tiny saffron]

IMO for iPad just get a case

[deep niche]

i get like 73 bps
no jole

[rugged rapids]

Yeah I ended up getting a case later on

Yeah talking to their help center rn and black AMD ones are out of stock

[tiny saffron]

Better that way, you'll bump the iPad so better protection is more preferable

[rugged rapids]

Yeah my old iPad had a small bump on the top

New one is safe, till now, I’ve dropped the pencil twice tho 😳

[tiny saffron]

I nicked my iPad when I first got it

[rugged rapids]

Sad

[tiny saffron]

And my last phone but instead I dropped it

And it had a glass back

[rugged rapids]

My phone is actually out of cover rn since we got scammed with this cover and it just…broke off…

Like the cover was tearing for a few days and one side just…fell off

[tiny saffron]

I get some pretty decent one online

Lasted thru the entire life cycle

[rugged rapids]

Spigen has given us good stuff before but lately their covers are kinda bad

My iPad cover is fine, but some of the edges have frayed

[tiny saffron]

Mine is called Ringke, rather expensive case wise but imo worth it

Some 'branded' case can be really good quality

[rugged rapids]

Hmm I’ll see if they sell here

I mean I reckon I’d be fine if I bought a cover from Apple but that costs like half the iPad itself so no 🤣

[tiny saffron]

3rd party casing can knock the Apple in house out of park in terms of protection

[rugged rapids]

I was considering buying one of the logitech keyboard cases but I never use my iPad other than like drawing and social media

[brave lodge]

KNOCK KNOCK

[rugged rapids]

AMONG US.

[tiny saffron]

Unless you really uses your iPad as your only IT solution then I don't suggest it

You said you making games, I doubt you'll be using iOS for your main computing needs

[drowsy sable]

dont get killed for saying that 👍

[rugged rapids]

Yeah def

iPad is mostly used for making art haha

[tiny saffron]

Only you develop for Apple appstore

[rugged rapids]

I meant that I don’t use the iPad for coding lol

[tiny saffron]

But I don't think iPad is good enough for making games

Yeah,It's good for creative purposes

But most of us uses iPad just for youtube

It's a good media center for most of us

[rugged rapids]

Yeah the colour accuracy on it is really good too

100% P3

[low rain]

I js have a Samsung tablet, but I never use it cause I have a tv in my room so now it’s just another monitor cause I found out how to use it as a monitor

[tiny saffron]

Even the most basic iPad have really good quality

[cosmic ore]

Mobile OSes in general are lackluster for any programming

[rugged rapids]

I just got the Air because of the Pencil lol

[tiny saffron]

But the entry price is still quite a hurdle

[rugged rapids]

I also got the Air just before the 5 came out at like 35% off

[tiny saffron]

I pretty sure mine is air 2 that was won in a contest

[rugged rapids]

Air 2 and iPad 6 (my previous) seem to be the most selling iPads haha

[low rain]

My dad spent $115 for his iPads pencil…

[rugged rapids]

Everybody I heard has an iPad 6 lol

Lemme convert the currency 1 sec

[low rain]

I’m using usd

[rugged rapids]

I got it for pretty much 97$

[tiny saffron]

I'm pretty sure 6th gen was out during the pandemic?

[rugged rapids]

Nah come out in 2018

[tiny saffron]

The newest one is 7th gen?

[rugged rapids]

10th

[tiny saffron]

Gotcha

[rugged rapids]

I mean normal iPads not pros or airs

I think Airs are on 5, and Pros are on 6?

[tiny saffron]

There are a lot less people opt for pro because the insane price point

[rugged rapids]

Yeah pros are not worth for most

Even Airs are a bit much

[tiny saffron]

Unless you're a professional, it's unlikely you gonna choose that just for youtube

[rugged rapids]

Just that I can’t tolerate that 1st gen pencil

[tiny saffron]

I got a cheapo drawing tablet for pc just to screw around

I think that's a better value but I doubt it'll work with iOS

[drowsy iron]

I have an M1 iPad Pro but that's because I got it used for a good price.
They're amazing devices but not really all that pro.

[cosmic ore]

My drawing tablet is a Wacom one from 2013 which I exclusively use for annotating stuff or drawing examples for coworkers. I am not an artist.

[tiny saffron]

Nice

[rugged rapids]

Nice indeed

[tiny saffron]

The iPad Pro just a better chip, bigger screen

[full fossil]

i got the cheapest drawing tablet from ugee for like 20$ or something from ebay xD
even the official drivers dont work for it lol,
but some random guy made drivers for it on linux xD and it works >:3
too bad i cant draw shit XD

[drowsy iron]

Even just trying to do github codespaces on the iPad pro M1 the browser tab would keep getting reloaded whenever I switched to another tab / another app, sometimes even just for a moment.

[tiny saffron]

I got a usb one from I forgot but it work well enough

[drowsy iron]

Put 16GB of ram in it and let me run docker containers directly on it though and it would be pretty pro 😛

[cosmic ore]

My tablet is too old for Windows to recognize as a stylus so built in shortcut stuff doesn't work. I ended up doing a bunch of wild stuff in AHK

[full fossil]

mine usb too xP
im using Krita, its so smooth OwO unlike my skill xdd
i need to practice :/

i cant even draw a circle

it would be much cooler if i got drawing tablet with screen TwT

[tiny saffron]

I download clip studio and drew stupid shit to pester dudes on discord

[full fossil]

clip studio looks interesting OwO

[tiny saffron]

Not a coder but can you even write iOS code with github?

[drowsy iron]

I have edited videos on the iPad, on networked storage.

[drowsy iron]

Not really. At least you can't compile it and run it without a computer. You can write the code though. But that's hard without being able to test it.

[tiny saffron]

It's free for 2 weeks then you'll have to pay, afaik it's preferred by most illustrator

[tiny saffron]

I can only imagine, Apple ecosystem is pretty tight around it so it's a pain when these situations arises

[full fossil]

to me that makes no sense xD its the same as saying "can you make videos with google storage" OwO

[tiny saffron]

I can only know the utmost surface of these IT info from talking to some dudes on discord

[full fossil]

OwO

[tiny saffron]

A few regulars I talk to are learning to code some I ca understand just a bit of it

[full fossil]

you are not interested in learning code? xP

[tiny saffron]

I doubt so, but ask it in tech support, they are more knowledgeable

[tiny saffron]

Hell naw, I'm trying to learn video editing and it's burning my all my 5 braincells I god damn have

[full fossil]

i see xD its easier than it looks btw OwO

const some_variable = 5;
if(some_variable == 5)
  console.log("its five xP");

[tiny saffron]

I'll be balls deep in insanity if I gonna learn coding