public-chat

[lucid echo]

Also go to the settings and sign out of any devices tied to those emails

[grizzled saffron]

Everything is already secured but they keep loggin into my discord

[lucid echo]

No thanks

[molten drift]

I'm pretty hyped that they made a list of the camping products that were featured in final fantasy 15 and kinda want them
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/5mgo9a/coleman_camp_set/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

[lyric rover]

Srry

[lucid echo]

When's the last time you reinstalled windows

[grizzled saffron]

And bro this dude is trying to log into my microsoft every like 90 mins

[lyric rover]

Wrong server

[grizzled saffron]

I reinstalled it like 3 times i even switched to 11

[steep girder]

Whenever you're changing password I hope you're also changing all recovery methods. So other e-mails, security questions, etc. Do you even have some idea as to how you got all of those accounts stolen?!

[vapid smelt]

Hire a hitman

[steep girder]

If between those accounts it's two e-mails, idk honestly. Did they have like the same exact password on both?

[grizzled saffron]

Gta mod menu prolly

[steep girder]

Maybe if you entered your passwords and email into it

[grizzled saffron]

I mean i downloaded a bunch of mod menus and got a trojan but i secured everything but 3 years and hes still trying

[steep girder]

But can you tell if it most likely was exactly all of the creds you entered into mod menu? So it asked for password and email? Or did you enter exactly nothing into them?

[grizzled saffron]

Nothing

[steep girder]

Because that's important. If it was a trojan and you didn't give away password, it could have been keylogged or snooped from browser saved logins

In that case, make sure you're using different computer or fresh install. Honestly, I hate to say it but as unlikely some personal targeted attacks with keyloggers are, a GTA mod menu is exactly where I'd expect to find them

[grizzled saffron]

I mean it logged into my ebay but i didnt log into ebay on my pc so idk how he did it

[steep girder]

E-mail maybe

[grizzled saffron]

I bought a new pc like 3 weeks ago

[lucid echo]

You should install a password manager on that. Change every possible password for every account you can think of
It's annoying now but it could be financially devastating in the future

[steep girder]

Reset password. Did the password change on ebay? Wherever somebody else logged in and the password is different, most likely they got access through your e-mail. They were forced to reset password for linked accounts because they only knew login to that e-mail

Otherwise, they probably wouldn't reset your password if they had IQ anywhere above that of a tuna sandwich

[grizzled saffron]

I changed passwords on everything and the passwords are like the names of elon musk kids

[fluid ridge]

if you had an antivirus and listened to it, that probably would not have happened

people who say common sense is the best antivirus are right until it's not

[grizzled saffron]

I mean i change all my passwords every 3 months and if i dont use a service i delete the account

[fluid ridge]

there's no point in changing your passwords, use a password manager and a really strong auto generated password

[grizzled saffron]

Its just annoying to get the emails that this guy keeps trying to log in but is to dumb to get the right password

[fluid ridge]

i can almost bet your problem does not come from being brute forced/password guessed

you're either key logged, token logged, or whatever logged somehow

which changing your password will do nothing in that case

[grizzled saffron]

I mean this is a bot prolly cause it tries 24/7 to access

[fluid ridge]

just get a good antivirus

[steep girder]

Wait so you secured everything? If you're getting e-mails notifying of failed login attempts, they typically have some additional information like their IP and location (also from IP)

[grizzled saffron]

Its always diff location like afghanistan or china

[steep girder]

Ohh. And it changes? It could easily be bots.

In fact, it's more likely that those are bots. You're not exactly being targeted as an individual victim by some evil hacker out to get you lol

It's ok. As long as you secured everything incl reset methods and other auth factors, etc. Use strong passwords too. So like not names of Elon's kids but their names + 12345!@

[grizzled saffron]

200.87.92.252 14.189.93.76 186.106.156.177 always a diff ip

Theese just a bunch of the many ones

[grizzled saffron]

It was just a joke cause his kid is called like a password

[steep girder]

Lmfao he would

[grizzled saffron]

X æ 12 or sum

I use norton password generator or google

[steep girder]

True it guy named his kids alphanumeric with at least one symbol and uppercase lol

Give id thieves a hard time (and the DMV)

[lucid echo]

He downloaded a bunch of sketchy GTA mod menus
The common sense firewall failed him then

[grizzled saffron]

Will accounts like twitter or stuff still work when you delete your email?

[steep girder]

Every single account you care about registered with that email, login and change the email to something else you're planning on keeping

[grizzled saffron]

I think i am gonna make a new email and put the new email to the accounts

[split fulcrum]

Common sense only works for the people who are actually experienced computer enthusiasts or work in the field. Although I personally haven't used an antivirus/antimalware in years while still downloading stuff and committing privateering, it doesn't mean you shouldn't.

[steep girder]

They will work for some time, but you really shouldn't do that. If your 2nd factor is OTP to that e-mail, you can no longer log in. Most of the time, you won't be able to easily reset password if you forget it or somebody breaks in.

[grizzled saffron]

But like i mean if my twitter account is linked with my email and i delete the email account does the twitter account still work

[steep girder]

Sadly it's still the case. A big part of people gaining enough additional expertise as end users is an illusion. Nobody gets antivirus these days because 'defender got it'

Also it seems malware as a whole shifted its focus and just how it appears/works

Back in the 2000s, kids who played games online knew more about windows PC than most adults who just used it to check news, e-mail or play like solitaire idk

[polar fern]

Viruses are very crude ways to do stuff. Nowadays it’s all about the confidence trick.

[grizzled saffron]

But i mean why does this dude continue trying to log in after 3 unsuccessful years where he didnt earn 1 cent from me

[lucid echo]

We get it, you're a genius mastermind

[steep girder]

I'd see 90% family computers in the kitchen with like 999 ie toolbars, popups, etc. Sometimes even actual viruses from the looks of it. I personally just knew not to insert any storage into that computer if it was going to be used somewhere on another machine

[split fulcrum]

That's not what I meant

[halcyon lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-18226933

[polar fern]

Some folks do risky stuff that the general population shouldn’t is what they meant.

[grizzled saffron]

Is there a way to see all the accounts u made with an email so u can delete the accounts u dont need?

[polar fern]

Ltt sponsor does that

Forget the company name

[steep girder]

If you can search your inbox like in gmail, just search for "registration" "confirmation" "verify" "verification" etc

"registered" is a good one

[polar fern]

They can automatically find accounts with your email etc & request deletion or some such

[split fulcrum]

I don't know why, perhaps nowadays kids use phones and more simplistic interfaces that are carefully curated in terms of content, but it seems like more and more kids don't know how to use computers that well (I've seen this happen in schools recently)

[lucid echo]

Oh yeah I remember that

[steep girder]

??? They shouldn't...
lol

[molten drift]

You mean like when I swig pickle juice from the jar?

[steep girder]

Not for every single one at least just by e-mail

[lucid echo]

Transit is talking about a service you can pay for that was in an LTT video

[polar fern]

It’s a service where they go in and trim all of the old accounts so you don’t use anymore registered to an email address or phone number

[split fulcrum]

This is also an important part of the equation

[polar fern]

I have actually been thinking about using this because there are definitely dozens of services. I have signed up for over the years and I really don’t like my email hanging out there

[grizzled saffron]

Are there like ppl who u can hire that make ur whole system secure again?

[polar fern]

Yes

That’s literally a whole industry

[grizzled saffron]

What they called

[split fulcrum]

Yes but mostly for companies. I don't think you need one though

[polar fern]

Cybersecurity experts?

[steep girder]

Problem is in my opinion that virtually the entirety of PC end users have moved to digital for crucial things like banking, communication, etc yet they don't have nearly enough knowledge or expertise

[lucid echo]

Yes but odds are you can’t afford them

[polar fern]

depending on the party you are enquiring, some of them actually have tools that can flush stuff out of components as well as software on mass storage

[steep girder]

Case and point: up to just a few years ago I kept seeing everyone around me getting their FB account pwned and stolen because they clicked on a link in FB messenger from a bot who sends a really believable message

"Dude! Is that you in the video?! OMG!"

Then it stole their accounts. That's how it spread lol

[polar fern]

@steep girder yup, I call that the “get in and drive” syndrome”

[grizzled saffron]

I mean i make my money online and my data is getting very important i was like 14 and was playing gta and downloaded that menu

[full fossil]

that's....not the same thing

[grizzled saffron]

I can afford them easily if the dont cost like 30k or sum

[steep girder]

But the key thing is how it only happened because their FB app was insanely out of date most of the time

[full fossil]

so much of "hacking" is just social engineering

[grizzled saffron]

How much does 1 of theese guys cost?

[full fossil]

"more than you can afford pal"

[polar fern]

Some people who drive automobiles simply get in the car and go where they are going to & never check the tires they never check the oil & they never look to see if there is damage or any safety issues with the vehicle before departing to their destination.

[grizzled saffron]

Where can you hire them so they arent scammers?

[split fulcrum]

Yeah, they actually did an experiment once where I live and attacked a cybersecurity company. 99% of it was social engineering and 1% was actually executing the code after physically penetrating security by social engineering

[full fossil]

it's just a tool to a lot of people

[polar fern]

Too many people are like this with their computers and mobile devices today.

Sure, but that doesn’t excuse irresponsibility

[grizzled saffron]

I think i can so how much

[polar fern]

If you’re going to operate a vehicle, you need to take responsibility for it before it enters the public right of way

[steep girder]

Yeah I legit got called by a friend to change his tire one time

[full fossil]

Joke failed to land

[polar fern]

Mhm

[steep girder]

Had a wrench, spare, jack everything. And even the manual with instructions lmfao

[polar fern]

Sorry, I’m interested in humour at the moment

[steep girder]

Humour costs less than humor

[grizzled saffron]

Cause i make money online and if i get screwed by some of theese indian dudes im fucked so do u know where u can hire theese type of ppl?

[steep girder]

At least for the time being lol

[polar fern]

Yeah, I mean, I know not everyone is going to be some enthusiast about every piece of electronics or hardware or tool or what have you that they own, but you should at least know what to look for insofar as safety.

[grizzled saffron]

So anyone know where u can hire the cyber security ppl no matter the price?

[split fulcrum]

Idk freelance websites? https://www.upwork.com/hire/internet-security-freelancers/

[grizzled saffron]

Bro why is a grandpa a specialist wth

[polar fern]

Some years back, I encountered a woman who appeared to be a single mother going through chemotherapy and she had two kids in this I think it was a Ford Explorer. Explorers are known to roll over if the tire pressure is too low and you take a hard turn. The rear driver-side tire was halfway flat and she did not seem to notice it until I pointed it out. She was totally shocked that it was that way and immediately called someone to come to her house and deal with it when she got back from the store. People really do get Tunnel vision with day-to-day life and forget that you have to be mindful about these things

[lucid echo]

How many people work at your company? Usually they charge per-employee

[split fulcrum]

he wants to hire one for himself smh

[grizzled saffron]

I dont got employees i work alone so i have less expenses

[lucid echo]

Yeah that was the joke

[polar fern]

I mean check out Facebook local stuff & groups. Find out what is available in your area.

[split fulcrum]

Well it takes time to "gain expertise" aka to get the connections you need to succeed and know certain things about your field

[steep girder]

Don't underestimate the gramps. They can write you a fortran program on cardboard using holepuncher

[lucid echo]

Or you could, you know, change all your passwords using a password manager. Because that’s all they’re gonna do if you hire someone

[steep girder]

If you don't have monitor, just make stdout go through print spooler.

[split fulcrum]

I'm too tired for humour, can't humour my humour of humour

[grizzled saffron]

Is there no company who u can pay then they clean up your system its not worth my hours if i can pay a dude to do this

[polar fern]

My girlfriend’s stepdad (not a fan of the guy myself) knows how to repair basically everything from a dishwasher to a tube or flat screen TV microwave oven all of that stuff, but you would never know it looking at him and he is in his 70s.

[steep girder]

Humor me

[grizzled saffron]

I would still waste my time i rather spend my money

[split fulcrum]

In what way shall I humour your humor

[polar fern]

@grizzled saffron we arent going to search for a company for you. You have to do that. Look for local listings in the business directories

[split fulcrum]

He can always pay for someone to do it if he has the cash 🤑

[scarlet plover]

hi

[lucid echo]

You’d have to pay someone to show up locally. Depending on where you live that may be next to impossible. Likely would be thousands of dollars if they charge hourly.

[polar fern]

Oh yeah, sure, but they’re gonna have to do the searching on their own

[grizzled saffron]

Im not asking u to search aint this a tech specialist server or something like that so wondered if someone knows a comapny or works in one

[lucid echo]

Because you’re not just asking for a windows reinstall, you’re asking them to find every account you have and change all the passwords

[polar fern]

You have to look in your local business listings to see which company you can hire to do the job you’re asking about

There is no use asking in here

[split fulcrum]

I'd suggest to do it yourself if I were you just for sake of safety, cost and the hassle of finding a PERSONAL cybersecurity expert...

[lucid echo]

Hello!

[lucid echo]

Oh, absolutely

[polar fern]

If you’re looking to change passwords etc there is the one company that LTT has as a sponsor as I mentioned before

[lucid echo]

This is an incredibly stupid thing to try and outsource

[finite cloud]

Here’s some security tips

Create a strong 12 character password

Use TFA

Use a password manager (optional)

[polar fern]

The company can find all of the accounts that you have linked to the email and then you can go through and reset the passwords once you know what you’re even looking for

[split fulcrum]

The average high school graduate working at any tech support store should be up to the task he is looking for, which is changing passwords and removing malware aka reinstalling windows... So why not go there first bruh

[grizzled saffron]

I mean i am kinda slow at this stuff and i would waste hours of my time of work wich would cost me more than another guy doing it i got some tips from yall now imma research for a company near me and ask em tl do it

[finite cloud]

Do that for as many accounts as possible and the likelihood of being hacked are reduced

[polar fern]

All of my passwords have been at least 20 characters for the last 10 years. I cringe at any site or service that limits this to 8 or 12 characters.

[lucid echo]

Good luck you sweet summer child

[split fulcrum]

Thankfully I'm not paying for it so

[polar fern]

If you were just trying to find accounts linked to an email again, all you have to do is higher the company that I mentioned before and use their search function.

I have many orphaned accounts out there using currently active email addresses that I definitely would like to close out or at least update the password/account info. However, I do not know if I am able to afford or have payment method acceptable for the company I can’t remember the name of.

[grizzled saffron]

I mean idc if i spend money anymore i sent an email to a company called konverto now they will respond tomorrow cause its 2 am

[polar fern]

I am actually confused as to what your issue even is at this point

I thought you had some sort of software on your computer that was causing you a concern

[halcyon lagoon]

Look at Kali Linux for a lot of in house security stuff.

[scarlet plover]

shut up talking to me

[grizzled saffron]

I wanted a quick fix but its not so quick so imma make it get done by another guy

[polar fern]

Again, I am not sure what your issue is at this point, so I’m not going to give any advice on the issue

[lucid echo]

Various accounts of his keep getting compromised, three years after downloading some sketchy software. He’s already reinstalled windows a few times and bought a new computer recently.

Solution is to change ALL of his passwords, but he wants someone else to do it because lazy.

[polar fern]

In the future, when you’re trying to find help with something, it is important to find out what you’re really trying to accomplish and then communicate that effectively to people who might be able to help. Wikipedia and Google and about a dozen other resources online have all types of information, including terminology and different methods of doing things and so on. In short, it’s important to do your homework on the situation before you’re asking other people to do something for you.

[lucid echo]

He conveyed it clearly earlier on, but this has snowballed and several people joined in the convo much later on

Which is EXACTLY why I told him to make a #1027757333117415424 post instead

[polar fern]

Mm..

Well, I hope you get it sorted because that type of stuff is very unnerving and anxiety producing

[grizzled saffron]

I alr changed them and the problem is still there and im not gonna waste more time and i researched and this chat has the same tips as the internet so not many options

[lucid echo]

If someone is still logging into accounts then clearly you haven’t changed all your passwords & disabled active logins

[polar fern]

That sounds almost like they have access to your mobile device and getting the confirmation codes and stuff that way

[grizzled saffron]

Bro i put a 20 digit generated password everywhere

[polar fern]

yes sure bit if they get your password reset code, they can then go in and use that to change it back to something else

It sounds like they may have set up a separate email address to collect the password reset codes or something along those lines

[grizzled saffron]

Yea so best option and cheapest one is to hire a guy

[polar fern]

My suggestion is to create a brand-new email address and tie in all the other emails to that one and log out and end the active sessions

Also clear your browser cache on your mobile device and on your computer - all browsers

Don’t create a new email address until you have cleared all of the browser data off your devices

I would also suggest using an email account not one related to email services you have used before

[halcyon lagoon]

Also try and make it on a private mail server and have it only be a web based mailbox

[polar fern]

If this does not work, it means that someone is actively using your identity to do malicious things, and there’s not much you can do about it

[grizzled saffron]

Thanks for the tips but i already tried everything yall and the internet said and nothing worked so imma get it fixed by a company

[polar fern]

you have tried creating a brand-new unrelated email account?

[grizzled saffron]

Go get some work done or do something else dont worry imma get it fixed buy a dude soon

[polar fern]

Okay, I need to eat I’m really sorry you’re struggling with this but I’m sure you will sort it out eventually

[warm plover]

Good co op $20 steam games ?

[elfin moon]

Rust goes on sale pretty often for $20 ish but its closer to $30 usually. 7 days to die The Forest and Payday 2 are a few other co op games I have that are pretty fun

[warm plover]

Hoping for sons of the forest to go on sale

I only have 25 rn sadly

[elfin moon]

The forest original goes on sale basically every major sale (christmas summer etc) and id assume sons of the forest will too. There's also key sites if you're alright with more gray market stuff

[warm plover]

Yeah I just bought a stacked gta v acc for 3 dollars

[elfin moon]

Garry's mod is kiinda co op but i dunno if you'd count it and you can get that under 10. And yeah if youre aight with key sites check them maybe

[warm plover]

The 25 is in steam it was a gift card

[elfin moon]

ohh yea that's rough. You could pick up the forest payday 2 and maybe gmod for that and have a few (im in the uk so i dunno about prices in other countries)

[warm plover]

Usd

UK is. Simular I thin

[elfin moon]

yeah i think they're similar

[warm plover]

Usd is more

25 usd is 20 pounds

[elfin moon]

id really recommend looking at 7 days to die it's a zombie survival game that I've put a lot of hours into and it's pretty fun. Plus it has co op with servers and just your own world iirc

and payday is payday it's solid

[warm plover]

Look into it ty

[elfin moon]

oh yeah and Phasmophobia is fun I forgot about that one

ghost hunting game you're meant to play as a group of 4

[warm plover]

The forest is fun I got in on ps4 spent a few hundred hours w a friend

[elfin moon]

yeah I've put a couple hundred in

[warm plover]

But I'm like the only one with a pc everyone ik has a xbox or ps4 sucks

[full fossil]

Why the race baiting bruh

https://youtu.be/J4b4QoXEhtA
Also, smfh

[dreamy rose]

imagine protecting Nvidia when the "Worse card" aged better

Nvidia really showing who they are, 8GB on the 3070 aged poorly.

[elfin moon]

me over here with an 8gb 1070Ti

it's aged just fine imo

(i meant my card with the aging fine btw)

[dreamy rose]

sure. because its a 10 series card. you wont be playing any high/ultra settings anyway

[elfin moon]

I keep my expectations where they should be for a 6-7 year old card

[dreamy rose]

but the 6800 having 16GB makes the 3070 a much worse deal

[elfin moon]

AMD makes everyone look like a worse deal

[dreamy rose]

well. because they are.

[warm plover]

Samr

Got it for 100

[elfin moon]

I can't think of a reason to buy an intel cpu unless you want to pay more for worse performance and no upgrade path

[dreamy rose]

why? its gonna be overpriced as shit

[dreamy rose]

Brand Recognition is the only thing that really sells Intel

same with PlayStation.

[tiny socket]

barely no performance jump for triple the price

[elfin moon]

same with nvidia. I'm convinced new builders hear "RTX" and are like woah raytracing I'll totally use this!!! then realise like 5 of the games they play actually have it and don't turn it on because the performance drop isnt worth it

[dreamy rose]

then get a Radeon.

[warm plover]

More like 15

5090 ti Finna be a 💣

[dreamy rose]

they are convinced that Radeons RT is unusable when its perfectly usable.

[warm plover]

Can't wait for the 6090 fr

[dreamy rose]

you'll need to be in a Nuclear Reactor to power the thing

[tiny socket]

1200w titanium psu is prob the minimum

[elfin moon]

FSR 2.0 from what I've seen is good enough for literally anyone and it isn't locked to one generation of gpu

[dreamy rose]

unlike DLSS

[elfin moon]

1200 is generous

[full fossil]

[tiny socket]

true

[dreamy rose]

6400 is more like it.

[tiny socket]

nvidia's rt cores are better than amd's (for now)

[dreamy rose]

Why? buy a 6000 now and upgrade in another 10 years

[tiny socket]

recommended psu

[elfin moon]

Nvidia locks DLSS generations to generations to make the new cards look worth buying. Nvidia's biggest problem is they'll release a 3090 with DLSS 2.0 for $1500, then a year later release a 4070 for $600 with DLSS 3.0 that performs better. Why would you buy a 3090 when you can wait a year and save a whole PC worth of budget

[full fossil]

😔

[dreamy rose]

yes, but thats not the point.

[elfin moon]

because AMD understand RT is still the far off future and rasterization is still really important

[tiny socket]

ok

[elfin moon]

until hardware is powerful enough that RT doesn't cut your frames in half it'll never get into every niche. Anyone who plays an fps, racing game, anything that needs frames is gonna use it so it won't be big

[dreamy rose]

Radeon will go cheaper and give you reason to buy unlike Nvidia

[tiny socket]

the rx 470 is prob ur best bet for 50$ gaming

[elfin moon]

AMD make affordable cards instead of the best performing cards so lots of people actually buy them

Nvidia banks off people still assuming AMD drivers are dog and they can't raytrace

[dreamy rose]

the 10% of marketshare they have says otherwise.

[elfin moon]

because people buy the affordable nvidia cards

[dreamy rose]

but generally ppl would buy Radeon if they bothered to have a look at the facts

[elfin moon]

notice how the 1060 and 1650 are the 2 most popular cards

[dreamy rose]

no. its the 3060 and 2060 now

[weak bridge]

is more because theyre a generation behind

[elfin moon]

yea just checked my mistake

they're still nvidia's lowest end though

[full fossil]

3050?

[elfin moon]

*lower end

[full fossil]

1630?

[tiny socket]

1650 and 3050

[dreamy rose]

not super popular anymore

[elfin moon]

lower end RTX cards then

[dreamy rose]

who the fuck is buying that piece of shit?

[tiny socket]

it came late + very trash

[full fossil]

Calm tf down

[elfin moon]

Dell OEM PCs

[full fossil]

Drama bum

[dreamy rose]

it existed when it shouldnt?

[tiny socket]

cheap OEM pcs otw to be the most expensive pc with a shit gpu

[full fossil]

Shit coolers too

[dreamy rose]

everything on the 1630 is shit.

And dell in general.

[tiny socket]

actual shit is more useful than the 1630

[ocean sonnet]

is 1630 even better than intel integrated

[dreamy rose]

still. its not a Mac.

[full fossil]

Not anymore

[dreamy rose]

anything beats intel iGPUs

[scenic epoch]

you'd be surprised

[elfin moon]

aktchewally intel iwis xe 🤓

[tiny socket]

iris xe is just 1050ti perf at max

[full fossil]

Still better than 1630

[elfin moon]

my 12 inch i5 surface laptop can play cod mw2 2009 at 30fps minimum settings

[dreamy rose]

no i wont be. i know what i'm talking about. RDNA 3 hasnt beat the 1650 yet. the 1630 is probably just being beat by the 780M

[elfin moon]

pure intel power

[scenic epoch]

What generation though

[full fossil]

Intel still one of the largest gpu manufacturers in the world

[scenic epoch]

I have a sp4 with 6th gen intel and the graphics performance was pretty horrible, couldn't even run Minecraft bedrock well

[elfin moon]

10th

[dreamy rose]

14nm

[elfin moon]

10nm

it's a 13w chip though lmao

[dreamy rose]

10th gen is def 14nm.

[elfin moon]

idk intel is telling me right here that it's 10

[ocean sonnet]

it's quite interesting how AMD iGPUs on laptop chips now beat laptop 1650

[full fossil]

10th gen had low power 10nm 🤓

[scenic epoch]

Both

[elfin moon]

and it is 10th gen low power it's a 1035g1

[scenic epoch]

Depends on the chip

[full fossil]

Get your facts straight and stop being so aggressive bruh

[scenic epoch]

🗿

[dreamy rose]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199332/intel-core-i910900k-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz.html
best CPU of 10th gen on 14nm

[full fossil]

Yee they were just breaking through the barrier

[tiny socket]

which gen did intel 7 got used??

[elfin moon]

4 cores 8 threads 13-25w in a 12 inch chassis

[full fossil]

Intel 7 isn’t available yet

[tiny socket]

oh

[full fossil]

Well, intel 7nm

[elfin moon]

it's a core i5 1035g1 in a 12.4 inch surface laptop go it's a tiny cpu for a tiny laptop

[dreamy rose]

14nm++++++++++++++++++++

[scenic epoch]

Intel 7 is on alder lake but it's just 10nm

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

ok but 10th gen is still banging on as 14nm.

[full fossil]

I hate their naming scheme

[elfin moon]

bruh it says it right here https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/196603/intel-core-i51035g1-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html

[dreamy rose]

Intel always out to try make ppl confused and make them buy garbage.

[scenic epoch]

That's what they call it lmao

[full fossil]

Fake news

[ocean sonnet]

should have been specific about whether you mean laptop chips or desktop as they're quite different

[dreamy rose]

yes, and everything else is 14nm

[elfin moon]

I specified the exact model I said 1035g1

I also specified in a laptop and the exact laptop lol

[dreamy rose]

to quote half the server "Laptops are shit they dont matter"

[full fossil]

You live in a bubble

[elfin moon]

I bring my i9 13900ks E-ATX pc into starbucks

[dreamy rose]

majority of the server live in a bubble

[tiny socket]

bro trying to destroy a poor starbuck's circuit

[elfin moon]

I leech off their power to get back at the establishment

(I haven't paid my rent in months)

[tiny socket]

oh ye starbucks has free wifi

[full fossil]

Just get a base m2 mac. Nothing compares to it. All I do is write code on the train and take notes and write more code at school so this thing is perfect. I have a Linux desktop at home.

[dreamy rose]

lmao no

[ocean sonnet]

mac is for people who can tolerate macos

[elfin moon]

I torrent games on starbucks wifi while mining crypto in the back

[dreamy rose]

MacOS is intolerable garbage.

[full fossil]

I got it for the battery life and because who the fuck games on a laptop

[tiny socket]

mac is borderline scam ngl

[full fossil]

OS wars are such a dramatic thing still
Some people go feral

[full fossil]

Your opinions are way to harsh. You need to calm down lol

[elfin moon]

Can't wait for MacOS 14 to be the iOS 16 of MacOS and it turn to shit

[tiny socket]

and it's an arm chip so it's just a glorified phone without a screen

[elfin moon]

I bought an iphone at the wrong time ngl

[full fossil]

That’s not how it works lmao

[dreamy rose]

someone cant handle truth

[full fossil]

Mobile just adopted ARM, it’s been around for decades

[full fossil]

Windows arm sucks

[elfin moon]

ARM started on desktop

[dreamy rose]

i'm suprised Apple never tried calling it the "PC 2"

[full fossil]

Software problem

[elfin moon]

no because they called the ipad that

I still have trauma from them what's a computer ads

[full fossil]

I tried linux arm and it was fine.

Not comparable in battery life to apple silicon

[dreamy rose]

nah they called it Mac 2 because they cant begin to touch a PC.

[elfin moon]

because linux are like a neglected child and they've found their own way to emulate everything

[full fossil]

…… what do you think Android is

And ios
And macos

[elfin moon]

apple fans when they realise their mac is a PC because it literally just means personal computer

[full fossil]

To call modern android Linux is a literal insult

[full fossil]

What’s a computer?

[elfin moon]

do you want me to self harm

[full fossil]

Macos is Unix based not linux based they are related but barley

[ocean sonnet]

I wouldn't be surprised if there were more devices running linux than windows and macos combined

[elfin moon]

the amount of youtube ads they're still burned into my head

[dreamy rose]

Ah yes, constantly getting updated by hundreds and hundreds of people = neglected

[full fossil]

I want you to commit self care

[tiny socket]

what's a personal??

[elfin moon]

I was joking about how they don't get a lot of mainstream apps and stuff like Wine exists

[full fossil]

More like thousands plus the largest companies in the world

Linux is the server space lol

[dreamy rose]

its not. PC is a platform. you cant run a PC Game on a PPC Mac or a Macintosh.

[full fossil]

There's basically nothing but Linux in the server space

[dreamy rose]

Windows Server

[full fossil]

Every steam deck user is a linux user
So millions use linux

[full fossil]

Less than 0.1% market share

[tiny socket]

still

[dreamy rose]

30 million ppl use linux

[full fossil]

+over 100B devices

[ocean sonnet]

every android user is a linux user

[dreamy rose]

more than the population of Australia

[tiny socket]

true

[halcyon lagoon]

True

[dreamy rose]

Desktop. not mobile

[full fossil]

Every server is a Linux client

[tiny socket]

everything is Linux

[full fossil]

Moving the goal post?

Everything but desktop is Linux lol

[ocean sonnet]

steam deck being desktop rather than mobile is a very questionable statement as well

[dreamy rose]

ChromeOS is linux too so many more use linux

[tiny socket]

who the hell wants ChromeOS

[dreamy rose]

Schools

[elfin moon]

no one wants it but they don't have a choice

[tiny socket]

now that's a glorified phone

[full fossil]

The server space is far, far more important than the desktop space

[ocean sonnet]

sadly millions of children are involuntarily subjected to the horrors of chromeos

[elfin moon]

calling chromeOS a phone is an insult to phones

[tiny socket]

true

[full fossil]

Calling chromos an os in a literal insult. TempleOS beats it

[tiny socket]

schools casually having computers shittier than my grandma's 20 yr old pentium pc

[elfin moon]

TempleOS is based as hell

[tiny socket]

TempleOS users being the most chad being

[full fossil]

Just use Ubuntu for school computers like Zimbabwe

[dreamy rose]

nah they could be using Kubuntu.

[hollow mortar]

Just switched to Pop!OS from Windows 11 … didn’t realise I’d like it so much!

[full fossil]

Ubuntu is the most supported

[dreamy rose]

you'd like Kubuntu better. its just like windows without the shit

[tiny socket]

the problem with Linux is that it has too much versions

[full fossil]

Kbuntu is just kde

[tiny socket]

it leaves new pc users confused

[dreamy rose]

yes, And KDE is absolutely better than GNOME

[steep girder]

Oh I see how it is. Just because they're in African country they have to use OS that's named after Ubuntu tribe. Racist (jk)

[full fossil]

Linux is a kernel. People combine that with gnu and many other packages to create a distro

[hollow mortar]

Wasn’t looking for something “like Windows” though. Was keen to get right out of the comfort zone for desktop.

Using Debian and Ubuntu for my home lab needs, but first time using a GUI and for desktop.

[tiny socket]

oh ye a distro that's what it called

[steep girder]

Btw in less prosperous countries that's actually what they use a lot of times. It's funny cause it's true. The idea of free open source lol

[tiny socket]

I forgot

[full fossil]

Gnome is literally better than macos's ui

[full fossil]

You can literally make your own distro if you wanted

[dreamy rose]

KDE in general is still a much better desktop. if you really wanna make it a MacOS Clone. absolutely can

[full fossil]

Just focus on the big ones in the beginning

[steep girder]

Imagine being barely able to afford computers for your school. Internet connection you had to install satellite dish yourself.

Time to buy enterprise volume license from Microsoft

[tiny socket]

I barely have any skill in coding

[dreamy rose]

dont need it

[agile tusk]

arent there millions of linux users even without deck

[dreamy rose]

billions

[full fossil]

Then don't. Use something like Ubuntu or Manjaro. No coding required.

[tiny socket]

ok

[full fossil]

There's over 100 billion machines using Linux

[ocean sonnet]

you sort of need it. to "make your own distro" you basically need to compile stuff from source. from personal experience I can say that if you try to combine random versions of packages compiled from source, you're gonna have errors you need to debug that you won't be able to understand and fix without programming knowledge

[steep girder]

Tbh it's not even a fact that actual genuinely licensed windows is distributed in certain places. So you can't even use windows legally lol

[dreamy rose]

"BuT MaNjArO BaD!!!!1!!!1!11111!"

[full fossil]

Because servers

[agile tusk]

it depends on the definition of PC, many people use it to just mean "home computer". And even in the stricter definition, wouldn't the Intel Macs still count as a PC?

[tiny socket]

which distro is best as a second boot with windows

[ocean sonnet]

any? how does that matter at all?

[dreamy rose]

anything with KDE

[frosty cape]

If I removed my gpu without removing the cables is that okay 🫥

[agile tusk]

yeah i was thinking of personal users, not servers

[full fossil]

I've elevated myself to a god using gentoo and have realised that all distros are equal

[steep girder]

That's how Russia even in 2000s I remember worked. AAA games would often times not even be distributed in that region. So basically even the biggest retailers you had like Fargus and crap would be pirated

[agile tusk]

or mint

[full fossil]

Android uses Linux so that's billions

[steep girder]

You literally bought CD with pirated game and key. Sometimes it was pre-cracked lmao

[tiny socket]

uh ok I'll just search the web

[agile tusk]

ig if u count that

[dreamy rose]

yes. but that still doesn't mean Macs are PCs.

[full fossil]

Calling Macs PC's is an insult because of how locked down they are

[dreamy rose]

out of the 4 types of Mac, 1 is able to be considered a PC.

[elfin moon]

if we're going by mega convoluted logic then aren't macs linux because they're unix based and linux is also unix therefore because they come from the same thing they're the same

[elfin moon]

powerPC ftw

[dreamy rose]

no. they are *nix. linux is linux.

[steep girder]

Android's OS portion is technically the Linux itself. It's a fork of Linux to some extent... with a lot of changes

[elfin moon]

🧢

[dreamy rose]

and again. Linux was built for x86 and later ported to other Architectures.

[ocean sonnet]

it's funny how people are talking about "unix based" as though they think it means they used that codebase and built upon it. "unix based" usually just means it follows some unix standards, not that even a single line of actual code from unix was ever used in it

[dreamy rose]

if anything MacOS is a BSD

[elfin moon]

MacOS is Vtech OS

[steep girder]

Also the kernel itself is usually packed with drivers to the point where 'kernel' means kernel + all drivers per device. The drivers and kernel is often not open source'd for certain portions of it.

Literally the opposite idea of Linux. Vendors close source the only drivers that work on device lol

[dreamy rose]

thats why Nvidia can go get fricked.

[ocean sonnet]

MacOS actually started out with BSD codebase, while linux was written from scratch

[dreamy rose]

we cant have nice things with Nvidia around can we

[steep girder]

Like xiaomi. They release source some time after kernel. But some of their drivers may not get sources release ever...

[elfin moon]

imagine that ROG GPU thing with a desktop GPU

but no the box with the cooling capacity of a desktop heatsink has to have the mobile gpu because it can move

[dreamy rose]

you mean an EGPU?

[elfin moon]

I forgot what it's called but the weird one that plugs into stuff. it was in the ROG Ally LTT video

[dreamy rose]

eGPU

[elfin moon]

yea basically

[steep girder]

Macs have been and still are PC's. I felt the opposite way when their marketing began referring to non-mac PC's as just PC's as opposed to theirs.

[dreamy rose]

they never have been until they switched to Intel

then they switched away to ARM

[ocean sonnet]

people often refer to "PC" as an ambigous collection of various standards that fit together like lego - ATX, DDR, PCIe, etc

[dreamy rose]

a PC has to be compatible with the IBM PC 5150. which if its x86 it can run DOS and run the originals software.

[elfin moon]

so anything RISC isn't a PC?

[dreamy rose]

by definition it is not.

[steep girder]

RISC isn't an architecture in the same specific sense as intel or PPC

Sorry x86 not intel

[elfin moon]

that's what I mean. It's such a general thing that is everything that falls under that not a PC?

[full fossil]

What does “busting” error mean on windows 10?

[ocean sonnet]

PC is a fairly ambiguous term where the meaning depends a lot on the context. trying to argue over what it means standalone is fairly pointless

[dreamy rose]

people used the term PC wrong because it was such a popular platform it became the "New name" for computers.

Anyone could build a PC Clone. and it took off from there

[finite cloud]

I think it’s Darwin OS actually

[full fossil]

The best Os is Koix OS

[elfin moon]

What's the difference between an intel mac and an intel windows laptop other than what it runs?

[dreamy rose]

those, they count, but that doesnt make the entirety of mac a PC.

[elfin moon]

so if I only ever use boot camp is my mac a pc

[dreamy rose]

But in general they are an insult to PCs

[steep girder]

Well it stands for personal computer. It's a computer that is portable enough to at least have in house and can be used by an average regular consumer in some sense. They called machines PCs for a while now for that same reason. Before PCs, computers were typically large and used only by large corps n sht

[dreamy rose]

i mean its a PC regardless of running MacOS or not. but not Arm, not PPC, not 68K.

[wispy marsh]

Hello

[elfin moon]

so PC isn't defined by what it runs, but it has to be x86?

and intel macs are just kid PC's basically

[dreamy rose]

yes.

[elfin moon]

I can get behind that yeah

[ocean sonnet]

the literal words that compose an acronym do not entirely define the meaning of that acronym. they often refer to something more specific. by your logic an "operating system" is any system that operates, which could refer to literally anything, digital, mechanical or even social

[dreamy rose]

thats the logic behind my statements. a PC is an x86 Computer capable of running all PC Software.

[elfin moon]

yeah I misunderstood you it makes sense now

[steep girder]

Commodore 64 was a 'PC'. I mean the keyboard was on the thing itself and it plugged into coax cable NTSC or PAL I think. The version I had was NTSC for sure. Commodore Amiga looked more or less like a PC today and I think at least some models actually modulated both TV modes and that RGB one you had through VGA cable.

It was a PC because now you could plug it into a TV at least which was readily available in the average household

[elfin moon]

I feel like macs aren't PC's but textbook definition PC's. They're personal computers but they're closer to phones than they are an X86 PC by architecture

[steep girder]

As opposed to like mainframe that takes up room with terminals lmao

[dreamy rose]

they arent pcs. the Amiga is running 68K and the 64 is on a 6510.

[steep girder]

Phones are technically the same PCs in the classical sense. Just that they're also handheld ('portable' or 'mobile')

[dreamy rose]

this means that an Amiga can run early MacOS.

[steep girder]

By the time mobile was reserved for phones generally, they also threw around the term 'pocket PC'. Pocket means the same thing but they phrased it differently because for some reason mobile implies cellular comm device

[dreamy rose]

yet a Macintosh cannot run Workbench. because the Amiga was a more powerful system by the fact they literally had their own chipset

and it was way cheaper too.

[steep girder]

Tbh by these minimal standards even a calculator is a PC. Idk. PC just means what it means. Nowadays, it's a non-laptop machine that isn't apple. Consoles don't count because idk... gaming is consoles lol

[dreamy rose]

Apple always sold garbage at a premium

[near nymph]

What?

[steep girder]

By 90s standards, everybody is selling garbage at a premium. It's literally by design not working 100% lol.

[old viper]

.

[near nymph]

Apple Silicon is a insanely good value. Good battery life and speedy SOC

[dreamy rose]

this was the mid 80s.

[dreamy rose]

we are talking Macintosh. not Mac

[near nymph]

A Mac is a Macintosh

[wary summit]

50% done

[wary summit]

no., like the og Macintosh

[near nymph]

Ah...

[steep girder]

Well irl it's just hard to meet demand of billions 7nm transistors produced en masse to every household. Also physics itself begins to emphasize probabilities lol

[dreamy rose]

a Macintosh is not a Mac. its a Macintosh

[steep girder]

Honestly, no digital electronics worked truly 100% of the time ever

[near nymph]

Mac is literally short for Macintosh

[dreamy rose]

they didn't use the Mac name until the. iMac or was it a Powermac?

[steep girder]

Even your light switch has a chance of letting through current when it's disconnected mechanically. The odds are too small to have any likelihood of ever happening since the big bang but still...

[dreamy rose]

no they called it a PowerMacintosh

[elfin moon]

Not since the early 90s

[ocean sonnet]

in terms of inspiration, maybe. but Apple uses very specific trademarks in specific places, so if you want to be accurate, only devices that apple defined as macintosh were macintosh. they stopped using that word altogether at some point

[elfin moon]

the name was changed officially years ago

[dreamy rose]

up until the G3 it was a PowerMacintosh.

then PowerMac was used

[steep girder]

Yeah but it's just that back in the day Mac or Macintosh didn't imply that it's not windows. Tbh wtf does windows have to do with PC as well. That's the OS lmao.

[near nymph]

All the MacBooks I've gotten in all had the SSD named "Macintosh HD"

[elfin moon]

Macintosh (1977-1999), will that get you to stop being pedantic?

[dreamy rose]

remnants can still be there.

[full fossil]

guys giveawaying 4090 ti (no jokes)

[elfin moon]

nobody's going to the apple store to get their Macintosh Book Air

[near nymph]

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208496 the name Macintosh is still being used in apple documentation

[dreamy rose]

Windows is just the OS Many used.

[elfin moon]

we're talking about products? find me a Mac called Macintosh

[full fossil]

MAC short for Macintosh

[heady flicker]

mac is just macintosh

[ebon otter]

what is a good bitrate for 1440p?

[ocean sonnet]

show me some apple documentation that uses the full word macintosh and isn't from like 2000 or something

[dreamy rose]

Mac is a different line of products

[elfin moon]

But they don't call their computers Macintosh anymore. Like Apple doesn't actively refer to their products as a Macintosh anywhere. They just shortened the name

[full fossil]

Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh, and used to describe the line of Apple computing products that includes the MacBook Pro, iMac Pro, MacBook Air and the iMac. -Google

[dreamy rose]

neither do they call it an iMac.

[elfin moon]

it's not an abbreviation the name changed completely lol

[near nymph]

I started off correcting someone for saying that a Macintosh is not a Mac. No need to be a dick

[elfin moon]

The iMac came out in 2021

[ocean sonnet]

Mac is not technically an abbreviation. from a legal perspective, it's a new name that superseded the old macintosh

[dreamy rose]

the iMac is short for nothing

[full fossil]

Imacintosh

[full fossil]

The term used to be used like that, until it became shorter for simplicty

[ocean sonnet]

if it were an abbreviation, apple documentation would use the "full" word in some places, which it doesn't

[elfin moon]

I just mean the name is still being used unlike macintosh

[warm plover]

Is a 3060/3060ti good for 5700x?

Needs upgrade

[full fossil]

no, why? the word "mac" had become so well known fot that that apple jus decided to use it to idenity it.

[heady flicker]

yes, as long as the 3060 isn't like more than $200 or 3060 ti isn't more than $300

[ocean sonnet]

it didn't "become" simpler. apple changed the names for their products. it wasn't somehow just people starting to refer to it differently

[full fossil]

but the orginal name is macintosh

[elfin moon]

it's a completely different line of products

[steep girder]

I remember iMacs they were already called. Pretty sure the distinction was the 'newer' ones which were entirely fitted into translucent tinted plastic bulky monitor. Our teacher referred to those as iMacs and the older white stacked ones as Macintoshes.

[near nymph]

Apple literally names their fucking default Installation in 2023. Macintosh HD.

[ocean sonnet]

the predecessor for mac was macintosh, yes. but that doesn't mean mac = macintosh

[full fossil]

mac and macintosh are the same thing with diff name

The Mac (known as Macintosh until 1999) is a family of personal computers designed and marketed by Apple Inc. The product lineup includes the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro laptops, as well as the iMac, Mac Mini, Mac Studio and Mac Pro desktops. Macs run the macOS operating system.

same line of products just a name change

[elfin moon]

yes, a name change. The name is different...

[steep girder]

^

[full fossil]

but its still the same line of products

[steep girder]

The branding of the product. So the product name or the name of the line

[wary summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQZivGIre0

[full fossil]

im watching this vid rn

[near nymph]

I mean Wikipedia isn't completely correct. literally in apple documentation from 2023 there is still mentions of Macintosh

[wary summit]

nd im crying rn

[wise kettle]

I have the need to ask something here, can someone look in #linux and tell me if you believe that floodgate is a person? It feels like watching an ai type

[full fossil]

what does nd mean

[elfin moon]

Yes, but it isn't called a Macintosh. It stopped being called that. We were talking about Macintosh not Mac, so we're talking about pre 1999 when they were called Macintosh

[full fossil]

you said it wasnt the same line of products, which what was I argueing for atleast

[elfin moon]

link?

[full fossil]

its the same thing so yes mac = macintosh, but macintosh is used to describe the older products because of the name change

[elfin moon]

The hard drive being called Macintosh HD doesn't count because your default disk name isn't a trademarked product name

[full fossil]

same line of products just a diff name.

[elfin moon]

and the whole fucking argument was about Macintosh not Mac so pre name change...

[near nymph]

I literally sent it earlier but here's a screenshot

[elfin moon]

You can trademark a changeable default hard drive name?

[full fossil]

you will cry when you recieve a i3 and it doesnt perform liek an i9

[elfin moon]

I didn't know they put that on their website and on the side of the box and on the back of the product damn

[wise kettle]

Ok I’m not the only thinking it’s weird

[polar fern]

Y’all really arguing about this?

[elfin moon]

Apple have been using SSD's since 2008 and it says HD so it's not a stretch that they just call it that cause why not

[elfin moon]

keeping me awake at 3am so why not

[polar fern]

Hey, remember these?

[near nymph]

I mean apple still instructs their techs to specifically type in the name "Macintosh HD" on reinstalls. It's kinda funny

[full fossil]

macintosh is just old macos calm down

[near nymph]

but yeah. Macintosh and Macs are from the same family.

[full fossil]

Yes, "Macs" and "Macintosh" refer to the same family of personal computers developed and marketed by Apple Inc. "Macintosh" was the original name given to the personal computer line when it was first introduced by Apple in 1984, and "Mac" is the shortened form that has become more commonly used over time. Both terms are used interchangeably to refer to Apple's line of desktop and laptop computers that run on macOS operating system.

• Chat GPT

[polar fern]

Having been an apple and Mac user/owner since the late 1980s, I can tell you right now, the name change was part of a rebranding effort to save Apple from bankruptcy. I think it worked.

[near nymph]

[ocean sonnet]

same family as in a predecessor being in the same family as a successor, indeed

[near nymph]

Checkout Norway. Woot woot

[full fossil]

Wiki, Chat Gpt, and google are all wrong now bro.

[elfin moon]

considering it just said a macintosh runs on macos clearly it's wrong

what about System 1-7

this argument is brainrot goddamn

[near nymph]

Mac OS the name was used back then also...

"Mac OS X"

[elfin moon]

MacOS didn't exist though? They ran on System?

[elfin moon]

what about 8 and 9

[full fossil]

Yes, macOS was originally known as "Macintosh System Software" when it was first introduced by Apple in 1984. It was later renamed to "Mac OS" in 1997, and then to "OS X" in 2001. In 2016, the name was changed to "macOS" to align it with the naming convention of Apple's other operating systems, such as iOS, watchOS, and tvOS.

So while the name has changed over time, macOS has always been the operating system used on Macintosh computers. The term "System Software" was used to refer to the operating system and other essential software components that controlled the Macintosh hardware and enabled users to interact with it.

[ocean sonnet]

well, first of all, "google" is not a source. "wiki" did not even say what you claim. and using chatgpt as a source is worse than using onion as a credible news source

[elfin moon]

source: trust me bro

[full fossil]

and ur source is?

[elfin moon]

bro your source is a fucking AI lmao

[polar fern]

Mac OS/OSX is Darwin unix. Macintosh operating systems were used before that & are unrelated architecturally

[full fossil]

and urs is?

[near nymph]

Yeah. I know. I'm just saying the name "macOS" is nothing new

[full fossil]

the opinions of others in the chat?

[elfin moon]

and yours is?? ChatGPT isn't a source

[full fossil]

🤓

[steep girder]

The brand names and their product lines are often times completely irrelevant to the physical product.

[polar fern]

just me over here being an actual Apple customer for over 30 years, but what do I know.

[near nymph]

Your logic is not what the facts are showing. I literally showed you Macintosh the name was still used in apple documentation when you said earlier it wasn't.

[steep girder]

Case and point: Samsung Galaxy S-whatever. S line? Galaxy S5 is a phone model? Nah. Every single one had usually two completely different platforms on the inside from mainboard to SOC

[polar fern]

🤷‍♂️

[elfin moon]

I just got ChatGPT to say the macintosh 128k runs macos Ventura so it can't be very credible

[polar fern]

Why would anyone use that garbage software

[near nymph]

ChatGPT is pretty nice when I'm lazy.

[polar fern]

It’s like a worse form of AutoCorrect

[full fossil]

I provided u with 3 sources (1 which you can say is wrong) but what u provided me with is ur words give me a source.

[elfin moon]

google tells me I have cancer when my eye itches

[steep girder]

The real line/model would be the SM-6969/TS. Pretty sure those 'model' names also have two distinct formats for exynos and the other one. Or it's just the international thing. Could be the international just happens to usually have the chipset US versions never use

[near nymph]

Who the fuck cares if it has a Hard Drive or not. They still call it HD.

[polar fern]

There was an option for an internal hard drive via expansion cards

[full fossil]

ignoring me yet again, provide me a source like I did to you.

[near nymph]

They still call it that on Macs with SSDs.

[elfin moon]

for what I don't even know what you're arguing anymore lmao

[full fossil]

mac and macintosh are the same family

[polar fern]

Okay, I’m starting to lose brain cells with a bunch of windows & Linux users arguing about Apple history

[wise kettle]

According to google the original Macintosh had a hard disk

[steep girder]

Idk but a brand name is given to an SKU as one item retail-facing. It could have a 'product line' but only in the same sense

[pine whale]

chat yellowstone is erupting take shelter immediately 🚨

[near nymph]

I mean it ran off a floppy lol

[ocean sonnet]

you showed they still named the system drive "Macintosh HD". on windows the system drive is named "Local Disk" by default. this does not say anything about what the official name of their OS or devices are. that's like saying that just because there's a "system32" directory around on windows for legacy reasons means it's a 32-bit OS

[near nymph]

Give me a source that says it's not. All I'm getting from you are words. I gave my sources. Where are yours.

[steep girder]

Honestly they were always Apple PCs or just Apple computers. As in computers made by Apple the company.

[elfin moon]

They are the same family? they rebranded and we were talking pre rebrand

[steep girder]

The first ones were called Apple LISA, Apple I, Apple II, etc

[elfin moon]

it's just funny at this point I don't get how people don't know the difference between a macintosh and a mac

[full fossil]

I said they were the same family and some dudes started saying its not and you just randomly jumped in.

[steep girder]

So the machine's model name you could just consider it I and II lol.

[wise kettle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_SE#Overview

[elfin moon]

my brother in christ I've been here the whole time

[full fossil]

I do, its just that their the same family. (they obv arent the same pc)

[full fossil]

you have been here the whole time but missed my points. Ok man.

[elfin moon]

there weren't any to miss lol

[ocean sonnet]

you gave no sources where Apple refers to the modern versions of their OS or their devices as "macintosh". you just found one legacy use of the word used as a default name for a drive. according to that logic, my operating system is apparently named "Local Disk 10"

[wise kettle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K

[full fossil]

whats ur input

[slow fern]

Would it be a better idea to drop 130$ on a 9400F and a H310 Motherboard or get a new ryzen 5 5500 for 110$ and drop it in my b450 mobo

[full fossil]

buy a macbook

[slow fern]

Ew

[elfin moon]

swear thats an m1 imac 24

[full fossil]

trust me bro

[near nymph]

Where's your sources? I literally showed on Apple's website the name is still being used. Y'all argument is that it's not being used anymore.

[open shard]

I like turtles

[slow fern]

Hackintosh it

[full fossil]

no fr tho.

[slow fern]

I already got big sur running on my pc lmao

[full fossil]

get ventura

[slow fern]

Its called a hackintosh

[wise kettle]

EVERYONE shut up and read

[slow fern]

Not with a 9th gen intel chip with an amd gpu

[full fossil]

ok nuclear

[near nymph]

It's not dead. You can still run the latest version of macOS on a hackintosh.

[full fossil]

Macintosh 128K

[wise kettle]

That’s the apple Macintosh

[near nymph]

Yes its a Macintosh

[full fossil]

never said it wasnt

[wise kettle]

If you could read the Wikipedia article you would know that

[polar fern]

The original 128k macs booted from ROM.

[wise kettle]

It’s a floppy drive

[polar fern]

Later models had an internal hard drive

[near nymph]

you just said it was dead and now your saying it won't be alive for long. Make up your fucking mind

[slow fern]

LMAOO fr

He has no idea about hackintoshs

[ocean sonnet]

I said it's not used for the name of the operating system or the devices. it doesn't mean they purged the word from all other legacy stuff you can find by digging around. I do not need to show any sources to demonstrate that your source has nothing to do with the argument whatsoever

[elfin moon]

Or you could finance a hard drive

[slow fern]

And if you know apple , they wont stop supporting any time soon.

[elfin moon]

A whole 20 megabytes on contract

[near nymph]

I was told the word isn't being used anymore. I showed that is. Stop being ignorant to the facts.

[halcyon ocean]

most intelligent apple conversation

[elfin moon]

My brain is actively melting

[steep girder]

Just Macintosh was the branding for a product line once. Pretty sure they were called that up to the point when they stopped being stacks on top of a case with separate monitor. Then they rebranded them to iMacs which were distinctively fitted entirely in a bulky clear plastic tube monitor.

Again, all I remember is our teacher called the white ones with separate monitor Macintosh and the new ones iMacs

[ocean sonnet]

no, you were told that mac and macintosh are different products, because they changed the name.

[near nymph]

WDYM the last Intel Mac wasnt too long ago. Heck they built the Mac Pro not too long ago

[polar fern]

Classic Macintosh basically ended when Steve Jobs came back and brought next step with him.

[slow fern]

Bro just came out of his cave

[steep girder]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. They decided that the 'product line' is still the same: MacBook. But on the inside, some are Intel now and some are completely other arch because M1. But in marketing terms, the 'products' are still MacBooks and that's their product line

[near nymph]

So a Mac is a computer running macOS right? (Besides hackintoshes right?)

[polar fern]

In osx they released something called true blue environment or classic mode where you can run all the apps from 9.2

[ocean sonnet]

a Mac is a computer whose official technical documentation says it is a Mac

[polar fern]

Well, not all of them some of them required resources that the classic mode didn’t provide

[steep girder]

And this time around, they didn't really change anything significant about it's presentation appearance-wise. Makes sense. Whenever you rebrand, you want to reinvent something about the product line as it's presented to consumer.

Having said all that... none of this has to do with the actual hardware lol. Just the plastic shell and the name printed on box lol

At one point the apple was rainbow colored but they changed it to monochrome idk

[full fossil]

If I order a pc with an intel chip that acts like an intel chip is an intel chip, but the documentation says it’s an AMD, the what is the chip?

[polar fern]

Meanwhile I am over here having been to an Apple Store opening with Steve Jobs and have repaired Apple products for the last 15 years.

[full fossil]

ok

[polar fern]

But it’s cool you guys have fun with your conversation.

[full fossil]

ok

[near nymph]

So just because Electric Vehicles are being marketed as EVs. Makes it not a Electric Vehicle. It's now a EV? It literally sounds like the argument you are making.

Tell me where the "Mac" name originated from.

[full fossil]

^

[elfin moon]

A mac is post funky bubbly g3 a Macintosh is a beige box that runs system 7 simple as

[ocean sonnet]

what the shit are you on about? you don't define based on your own gut feeling what the brand name of a product is, that's defined by the company who makes and sells the product. for example a Ryzen chip is any chip that AMD markets under the name Ryzen. you don't get to be like "oh this CPU that is not ryzen according to AMD looks kinda similar so it's a ryzen as well"

electric vehicle isn't a registered trademark

[near nymph]

You still haven't provided me anything backing your argument...
You are wrong.

[full fossil]

Not but gut feeling, it legit saying “intel” on task manager but if the documentation says “AMD” what is the chip ?

[ocean sonnet]

the chip is whatever the legitimate manufacturer of it markets it as in their official documents

[near nymph]

You admit it. And walk away. I'm standing behind my argument. How is my facts going against what I'm saying? It literally says Macintosh on the damn website

[full fossil]

I've gone down the tumblr rabbit hole

I have seen too much

[near nymph]

Haha. Lucky for you... It's 2023. Back then before they started censoring it was fucked

It's named that. Point being? What does Macintosh HD stand for?

Local Disk/This PC for Windows is well... Describing what it's on.

Did the manufacture named it that? No

Did apple name their drives "Macintosh HD" in 2023? Yes

[full fossil]

I could sell a pig and market it as a dog it is a dog

[near nymph]

All you've been trying to argue is that just because apple used the name in a certain part makes it invalid.

[full fossil]

Pull a source that says it doesn’t

[near nymph]

It does mean something. They literally name it that. If it's not a Macintosh why would they name it Macintosh HD?

[full fossil]

You will just say it’s wrong I’ve already shown you some. You show me one.

[heady flicker]

why is this still going on

[near nymph]

It's a fucking Macintosh

[ocean sonnet]

if my operating system wasn't "Local Disk 10", why would my default drive be named "Local Disk"

[near nymph]

If your gonna start calling names. I'll just be the bigger person and step away from it.

[full fossil]

How have mods not muted you yet, stop being so aggressive

[near nymph]

Quit bringing back up the discussion. Your the dude bringing it back constantly when I try to change the topic. That's all you've been doing here.

[karmic flame]

Lets move on please

[near nymph]

I don't. I'm sipping on some ice tea shopping for powertools

[full fossil]

Leave man’s alone

[karmic flame]

you are not allowed to operate power tools

[full fossil]

“Mods he shit posting get him muted now!” 🤓

[near nymph]

@dreamy rose it talks about pokimane and audio equipment. Why are you questioning why I'm trying to steer the conversation away?

[full fossil]

The audio equipment goes crazy

[near nymph]

Dang $3k for a audio setup for streaming is wack

[full fossil]

Crazy

[full fossil]

For professional equipment it’s not bad tbh

[polar fern]

Doing laps

For maps.

[near nymph]

Ooh! Is that you?

[polar fern]

No. I’m poor, remember?

[light jacinth]

Is this Elon's jet?

[polar fern]

No it’s a surveying charter.

[light jacinth]

I like the plane number (N64)

[polar fern]

Hehe

[near nymph]

I do love my macOS. If adobe suite and my other software that I use is on Linux. Sign me up

[full fossil]

The only OS that sucks is temple 😤

[near nymph]

I know right. I wonder what she got

[polar fern]

👀

[near nymph]

Langley the Cyclops

👁️

[polar fern]

👁️👃👁️
👅

[near nymph]

Btw anyone here seen Eurovision?
The Song writer that Ukraine used for that fancy moving Zelda looking dress presentation got sent to Eurovision to represent Norway

I wonder how many servos were used for a costume like that

[full fossil]

10 at least

[chrome vector]

this is some serious gourmet shit

[full fossil]

[stray apex]

60

[near nymph]

Lol Canadian giveaway crap. Knowledge test

[polar fern]

👀
👃
👅

What is wrong with us

[chrome vector]

ikr it's like that in some parts of the US i think too. At least I can wake up everyday and thank the lord I'm not in Quebec

[polar fern]

👁️ 👁️

[chrome vector]

Excited to see what CPU i end up getting though, even if I don't exactly need it

[polar fern]

Québec is an interesting idea

[chrome vector]

I just entered because I've been wanting one or two of the pillows for awhile, and 3/25 odds are actually really good for a giveaway

[near nymph]

I need an upgrade to my system soon... A cpu would be nice haha

Still rocking a Haswell chip. It's showing its age

Even though I overclocked the shit out of it

Huh

[random jolt]

rip guess I didn't get the draw :(

[chrome vector]

I just built a system myself for the first time. Originally was going to use a 12700k, ended up going with a 13900k. I ended up with (almost) enough parts to build two PCs. I still really need to sell that 12700k, motherboard, power supply, gpu, etc.

hardwareswap here i come

lmao

[near nymph]

Lol

[chrome vector]

I may be an over spending degenerate, but I'm not that much of an overspending degenerate

[drowsy sable]

IM OUT OF JAIL

im back boys

💔

does riley have a discord?

[near nymph]

Milwaukee, DeWalt, FLEX, Ryobi, RIGID, Bosch, or Makita?

[chrome vector]

Speaking of Apple, I just got my first iPad. I got a 5th Gen iPad Pro 2TB, brand new, for $1100 dollars. Great fucking deal on ebay.

sorry 12.9 inch

[near nymph]

My eyes are on DeWalt. 👀

[chrome vector]

oh and its wifi + cellular

[full fossil]

prove it

[near nymph]

Apple does make some sweet products. I wonder when they will introduce cellular to Macs

There is cellular iPads...

It's been a thing ever since the 1st iPad lol

[gilded quest]

Seriously apple. Where are the cellular MacBooks

[full fossil]

huh

[near nymph]

The black bar on top of the iPads were for cellular antennas

Because he got the wifi model

Cellular is extra because not everyone needs it. And it's added cost to make

[full fossil]

did the dude get banned?

some dude argueing about mac

[random jolt]

getting banned over apple

[chrome vector]

Yeah I never actually owned an iPad, just shitty cheap Android tablets. This one is mostly going to be for drawing/animation, a little video editing, random stuff. Might download movies and stuff on it. Idk, we'll see

[wispy marsh]

I spy langleyman lurking in the chat

Meanwhile momo never talking in here

[near nymph]

Naw he got muted

[wispy marsh]

Momo, the mod

WOW I just realised we have a #wanshow-live channel with all the links to the WAN shows!

I don't have to painfully search for WAN show dates on youtube anymore!

[chrome vector]

Yeah but when it comes to storage I didn't need 2tb, but it was unironically a great deal so I went for it. Can't hurt, but would never pay full price for it. Fuck the Apple tax. On the plus side it's M1 and has more ram, since it's the 1Tb+ version. My PC that I'm building now has 4 m.2 Nvme slots... I was originally going to have a motherboard with 3, but now I have 4, sooooo.... I guess I'm installing my whole steam library. 8Tb of Nvme, maybe more now that they 4tb ones are getting cheaper.

I've bought like, 6 2tb nvmes lately, for a bunch of stuff, but most of it is for this PC

[full fossil]

prove it

[near nymph]

https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/buy-ipad/ipad-10-2/64gb-space-grey-wifi-cellular

[chrome vector]

thats the build, going to upgrade the ram when it gets cheaper/better.

[near nymph]

Why do you casually have a brand new iPad?

Or did ya reseal it

[full fossil]

They just bought it

[chrome vector]

because I just got it for a great deal, and I'm lazy and haven't wanted to put on the screen protector yet

[vapid smelt]

only 5600mhz ram?

[full fossil]

Where cooler

[gloomy yew]

Yum

[chrome vector]

shit, forgot about that this is the updated photo

didn't want to go aio unless I absolutely have to

[near nymph]

Where's the 4090?

[near nymph]

Man of culture. Nocuta air cooler

[vapid smelt]

its going to thermal throttle

[near nymph]

Though... Umm... You may of wanted to get a beefier air cooler...

[chrome vector]

Like I said, I'm going to upgrade it when it's a bit cheaper, might go with 64gb then if I absolutely need it or it's a good enough deal.

[fluid ridge]

are you sure it's real 🗿

[fluid ridge]

thats the intel way 🙏 just throw more electricity at it to make it faster

[chrome vector]

I've done quite a bit of research, it should be fine with a nh-u12a, but testing it will be the ultimate measure. If you limit it to the recommended 253w it should definitely be fine from what I've heard. If I have to I will get an aio, but I'd rather not.

[thorny axle]

Let it work

[full fossil]

use nitrous oxide

AMD is the only way to freedom. It's the only way to salvation. AMD IS THE WEI

[wispy marsh]

Should've sold him a chiller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym1Jjx4n76M&t=590s

[stray apex]

a u12 seems
extremely optimistic

[chrome vector]

I'm 99% sure but I have to confirm it this weekend. The seller was very highly rated, and that exact listing had already had sales that were rated well and seemed legit. Plus it has the real apple seal on it, which is different from regular seals. I am checking to make sure tomorrow though, but I am almost positive it is legit

[thorny axle]

What’s the cooling capacity of the U12A

[wispy marsh]

Linus was using an industrial chiller and it made the 13900K draw up to 500w while maintaining 80C

[thorny axle]

Only double the stock wattage

[full fossil]

And only 6.2ghz all core

[thorny axle]

💀 very practical comparison for real usage

[near nymph]

Oh if you got it thru eBay or something. Becareful if it's financed

[stray apex]

apparently noctua rates the u12a as being able to handle a 13900k

[wispy marsh]

The point of pushing a K-series processor was to the 95% of the redline

[wispy marsh]

No. Watch the video

[thorny axle]

Even KS

[chrome vector]

I will have to see. It was idle at 30w on first couple boots, but I have yet to stress test it because I need to cable manage and stuff. That's why I did go with the thermal take contact plate and mx-6, was originally going with kryonaut extreme but I don't want to have to replace it as often.

[full fossil]

He literally reached the limits of silicon. I have

[thorny axle]

Dang

[stray apex]

I mean, I run an l12 on my 5900x, and noctua doesn't even think they're compatible so

[thorny axle]

You’re about to be a real tester for Intel’s practicality

[stray apex]

it might not boost as high as it would with better coolers, but it'll probably work?

[thorny axle]

Sounds like it does fine

[chrome vector]

Yeah, as far as I am aware it can handle it, especially with the contact plate and good thermal paste. You can also limit it if you have to so it isn't constantly trying to go well beyond the recommended

[full fossil]

5000w industrial chiller on a 13900k. He states that he has reached the limits of silicon. Liquid nitrogen changes the composition of silicon so it's able to reach higher clock speed

[chrome vector]

I am nothing, if not glouriously poptarted o7

[stray apex]

no?

liquid nitrogen is just colder
they're not like
doing chemistry shit to the chip, it would definitely break

[thorny axle]

Eh, look up superconductors

[full fossil]

I did say that it changes the composition of the silicon

[thorny axle]

Weird stuff happens when you get that cold, it’s more than just “colder”

[chrome vector]

Unironically though, since I won one of the CPU's in the giveaway, if I am one of the lucky ones who receives something like a 7950x I may switch from the 13900k. That's a big if either way though.

[thorny axle]

Isn’t the 13900K technically faster?

[stray apex]

I don't think that's how superconductors work

[thorny axle]

Or would selling the board + i9 and getting another cooler be better

[chrome vector]

Keep checking your inbox just in case. If some people don't reply you may be chosen as a secondary winner. Unlikely, but possible.

[wary summit]

AMD like:

[near nymph]

Liquid nitrogen isn't directly contacting silicon. Not sure how a reaction between the two can happen besides thermals

[hot willow]

Where should I report a group member for sending spam messages?

[chrome vector]

It is, but still might do it. Probably not, but the upgrade potential would be nice

[wary summit]

[full fossil]

I wonder if there are any solutions that are available to enterprises to cool servers with liquid nitrogen

Or mainframes for that matter

[stray apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o74u1u642I&t=317s

[chrome vector]

I almost went with the 7950x just for the upgrade potential, but decided to go with Intel for my first actual build since it is overall (at least slightly) faster, it was cheaper overall, and for some sentimental value. Honestly though, someday in the far future when I build a new PC, if AMD is still doing great and still has better upgrade potential I'll probably go with them

[vapid smelt]

spicy

[stray apex]

his results are kind of weird
but it seems like it'll probably work

[thorny axle]

Fair enough

[thorny axle]

You might want to look again, though silicon doesn’t appear to be one of the ones applicable

[stray apex]

you're not turning a 13900k into a superconducter using ln2

[near nymph]

Lol

[thorny axle]

Yeah, I thought silicon was one of the high temp ones, but it’s not

[full fossil]

Noctua has indeed fallen off in recent years when regarding tower coolers. There lack of innovation frightens me. The thermalright pearless assassin 120 now beats the NH-D15 and many others for far lower price ranges than Noctua's best offering can beat it.

[stray apex]

oddly enough, his testing showed that the u12a chromax was his best performing noctua cooler

[full fossil]

The AK620 would be another example that I know of the top of my head

[full fossil]

Might be the way his fans are configured?

[vapid smelt]

he is in a very small room and i dont know if he had the same ambient temperature for every cooler

[stray apex]

sure, I wouldn't expect to see such a significant drop just from ambient though

[small zephyr]

🤔 why does my android tablet wont give me the on screen keyboard while using an bluetoth mouse?

[stray apex]

especially since he's gonna have to remount coolers every single time, and that's not gonna be particularly fast

[chrome vector]

Yeah I actually was talking to somebody about that in the floatplane chat the other week. I didn't even hear about the Assassin before I bought the Noctua, but I would have considered them if I knew about it even though I love Noctua. Noctua is great at a lot of things, including letting you keep using their coolers through countless upgrades, however I do hope they innovate more

[vapid smelt]

and he is using LGA 1700 and LGA 1200 mounting hardware

[chrome vector]

what?

[vapid smelt]

in the video light sent

[chrome vector]

was he?

[thorny axle]

I mean, it’s not long enough for all the air to drain out. As well, the temperature could just vary naturally

[chrome vector]

I will have to look that

[stray apex]

sure, but the point is that it's unlikely that ambient would differ so much to give like, 5% delta in perf

[full fossil]

<@&750150305383186585>

This guy is most likely going to spam forever

Could someone assist me in tech support

[pulsar violet]

#1027757333117415424

[full fossil]

I posted

They aren't kids. Adults can deal with sleeping for 0h and being unpaid

[thorny axle]

I guess runs aren’t 200% accurate either, you have run to run variance

[full fossil]

Like I did for every other tech support server and no one has helped me

[chrome vector]

Yeah it's weird. U12a and D15 are extremely close. Some show the d15 better, as it probably should be, but a lot of tests show the U12a extremely close or a bit better. Seems like a bit of a crapshoot, however, for whatever reason the u12a has been more expensive on Amazon than the d15 for a long time now. I went with the U12a because of it's extremely close performance and easier ram/case compatibility.

[full fossil]

yep

[stray apex]

it might just be variance in smoothness, although I'd expect noctua to have pretty precise manfucaturing

[full fossil]

Atheist god bless discord mods

[scarlet cedar]

who likes blalls

[full fossil]

Depends what kind

[scarlet cedar]

big black ones >:)

[vapid smelt]

i believe this is the main reason using LGA 1200 mounts for some coolers and LGA 1700 for others , having a good proper mount like with a contact frame can help lower temps by 10c

[thorny axle]

Or just variance between runs maybe?

[full fossil]

I'm talking about basketballs 😳

[stray apex]

he also speculates that it might have something to do with heat pipe orientation on the IHS

[scarlet cedar]

im talking about men balls >;)

[thorny axle]

Looks like cinebench, doesn’t that vary a bit between runs?

[full fossil]

Nah man balls are nasty

[scarlet cedar]

rlloy?

[chrome vector]

Gamer's nexus has talked about this, but frankly, it's a lot harder than it seems to do cooler testing.

[full fossil]

I prefer holes

[scarlet cedar]

i love em they tasty as hell fr

[full fossil]

Is that actually a thing people do?

[chrome vector]

The salt is real 🧂

[scarlet cedar]

lick men balls?, yeah

[thorny axle]

Some day someone will just find the smoothness, material, surface area etc and use physics to find how much energy it can let off

And instead of testing temp claims, they’ll test smoothness/surface area etc claims

[full fossil]

Eww, With all that hair? I'd rather lick up there if I were you

You need to dial 911 and ask them for help

Ask for a swat team sent to your address

[wary summit]

;-;

[thorny axle]

Someone fix my computer, the clock is wrong

[chrome vector]

Just drive into a pond, the apple alert system will detect a crash. If you survive the phone may be unlocked

[full fossil]

Tell them that you have a pc that your holding hostage

Your a mac guy and want 100k or you'll burn down the pc

[thorny axle]

It says it’s 12:53

[sweet jetty]

Settings > search for date/time and then set it :D

[thorny axle]

No admin perms

[sweet jetty]

Huh

[thorny axle]

School-issued laptop

[full fossil]

😂

[sweet jetty]

Ask your school to ig

[full fossil]

vs cursor > any other cursor

[thorny axle]

My school was bombed 2 days from now

[uncut violet]

can anyone help me in my tech support post

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[full fossil]

Install linux? Disable secure boot and get a usb drive or just do a fresh windows install

[chrome vector]

At work our IT is worthless, so many of the computer clocks are wrong and they won't fix it. We make fucking electronics (SMT) and they can't even get the computers right

[full fossil]

fake number

[thorny axle]

Linux sounds like work

[full fossil]

bet that

[hot willow]

dang right it is lol

[stray apex]

is it connected to the internet?

[thorny axle]

Yes

Internet time correction is disabled, unable to change it because admin perms

[chrome vector]

Guys I was just memeing, this is my actual build

[full fossil]

linux < anything else

[light jacinth]

boot time?

[full fossil]

mods I couldnt let that slide

bro chill out or ima step in

[chrome vector]

Somewhere between 3 and 7 moons

[thorny axle]

Many moons ago

[full fossil]

Get a usb drive, download windows 11 from Microsoft's website, restart the pc and go to the bios to disable secure boot ( key pressed depends on laptop, just google it ), then save and exit, restart again and press another key dependent on on the laptop just google it to go to the boot menu ,then click on the usb drive in the menu and go through the process of installing windows

[chrome vector]

On the plus side, don't need to worry about cpu cooling my R2D2 bröther

[wispy marsh]

Sigh

[full fossil]

ok buddy ur asking for it 😤😠😡

[thorny axle]

Sounds like work

[light jacinth]

You're the first person to mention my R2D2 profile picture and I've used for it a long time. Almost brought a tear to my eye

[thorny axle]

How about I just turn the laptop into the tech office and get a new one

Sliding to scroll doesn’t work either

[full fossil]

Yes but it will mean that your school will no longer spy on you