public-chat

[full fossil]

Anyone?

Yup

I don’t believe you, show me

[wispy marsh]

MAL-ORIA-NARM-S3516
JOHNNY SILVERHAND
16-11-1988

Rockerboy with two nuclear warheads

[full fossil]

My ssn is 382 5968

Totallyyyyy

[wispy marsh]

His bgm is amazing, I love it

[full fossil]

Btw translating this results in “Fuck you”

[wispy marsh]

Old enough to use a pad

[full fossil]

Johnny Silverhand is cool as fuck

[full fossil]

What? Noooo

Never used a phone with buttons. Those exist?

[wispy marsh]

You just exposed your age, zoomer

[full fossil]

Idc

I’m 15 lol

[wispy marsh]

Big Cheese is a nirvana song, too

[full fossil]

Biggie Cheese is a rapper from “Barnyard”

[neon mesa]

And hot as fuck

[full fossil]

He’s a rat

[full fossil]

Keanu reeves

[wispy marsh]

If John Wick is hot, so is Silverhand

[neon mesa]

Keanu plays himself in these roles

[full fossil]

Selfie of me

Not a naughty boy at all

[neon mesa]

Is there like... Voicemeeter but for video

[full fossil]

If you find something like that, let me know pls

[neon mesa]

Because like OBS can only do a single video out

[full fossil]

You have to seperate the audio and video

[neon mesa]

What for?

[full fossil]

On point of recording there should be a way to do that

[neon mesa]

I'm looking for a video routing software like how voicemeeter can route between audio devices

Not separately stream the video's audio

[unreal sluice]

did UBlock Origin suddenly stop working for anyone?

[zenith wharf]

works for me

[unreal sluice]

as soon as I enable it all web pages stop loading

[zenith wharf]

what browser are you using

[amber cairn]

do you mean like a bunch of parallel video streams or something that you can setup different videos to different video "channels"? Because isn't that just what scenes and widgets are for in OBS?

[unreal sluice]

Chrome

[wispy marsh]

Haven't had a problem for me, firefox 109 public release & 102 ESR

[elfin jetty]

Speaking of which

https://youtu.be/I-ORt8313Og

[wispy marsh]

Must be manifest v3

[elfin jetty]

This looks dope as hell

[wispy marsh]

I just want pathtracing

[zenith wharf]

i've been decluttering my home the past day

[unreal sluice]

yea I saw some reddit post abt it

[hearty spear]

So, HUB just absolutely dunked on the 3070.
And 8GB VRAM is no longer enough for gaming in 2023.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh7kFgHe21k

[wispy marsh]

Found any hidden girlfriends?

[zenith wharf]

i got really inspired to make a nice setup by the worst ltt employee setups video

[neon mesa]

OBS can only output a single video output (the one on preview panel)

[zenith wharf]

unfortunately, i do not possess such an object

i hereby declare that i am maidenless

[unreal sluice]

object 💀

[full fossil]

I had wished he'd elaborated that it's not enough for high end anymore
a 3060 with 8gb would be totally fine

[wispy marsh]

Wow chauvinism

[amber cairn]

well the target will only be able to have one video source visible at a time too, is it parallel recording?

[wispy marsh]

[zenith wharf]

wdym chauvinism

[full fossil]

you described a gf as an object, hence "chauvinism"

[fluid ridge]

well depends on the game

[full fossil]

just explaining the comment don't come at me

[hearty spear]

HE goes through a list of current games, and the 3070 /8GB just doesn't cut it.

[zenith wharf]

i was joking i swear

[wispy marsh]

Swear that you're never gonna get a girlfriend

[full fossil]

I wish I had 8gb :pain:

[zenith wharf]

i like men

[wispy marsh]

Alright enough making fun of you

[fluid ridge]

i dont think most people own a more than 8gb card unless they have a relatively expensive card

[zenith wharf]

homies first

[full fossil]

that's not the point

[hearty spear]

Partially because NVidia is to blame, for not putting 8GB on cards that REALLY should have more

[neon mesa]

I swear i will never gonna || give you up ||

[full fossil]

the point was it's a powerful card being held back exclusively by the 8gb vram

[fluid ridge]

yeah i know i am coping because i own a 3070

[wispy marsh]

Two GTX 970's still count as 8gb

[hearty spear]

7GB

[amber cairn]

6+2 gb

[wispy marsh]

I'm never ||gonna let you|| down

[full fossil]

I mean I get it, I'm hitting VRAM bottlenecks with a 1660ti and that's far less powerful

[wispy marsh]

You got it

[fluid ridge]

i dont think vram has limited me before besides doing stablediffusion

[hearty spear]

They're 3.5 + .5 GB. So 7GB lol

[neon mesa]

I'm bing chilling with my 3060 12GB

[fluid ridge]

ive been able to run all of the games i own on my card so i guess im fine

[neon mesa]

AI stuff go brr on my 12GB VRAM
Halo infinite max settings go brr

[full fossil]

same
My only wish is I could swap it for a 3050 ti so I can have a more quiet laptop

[amber cairn]

in what resolution is the bottleneck most prominent or is it just certain console ports?

[wispy marsh]

Well, I can play genshin impact with 4gb of shared ram + vram

[neon mesa]

I wasn't able to get max on halo inf on my 6600xt because 8GB

But on my 3060 12GB it goes brr

[fluid ridge]

your 3060 is an a10 too?

[neon mesa]

This thing is gonna age like fine wine

[fluid ridge]

ok well my 3070 will age like fine wine too

[neon mesa]

As the 8GB cards fold

[fluid ridge]

[full fossil]

good evening people

I'll take a 60 series being back around $250 thanks

[neon mesa]

Though i might replace my 3060 with Arc battlemage
3080ti performance for A770 price? That's a steal

[hearty spear]

The 6600 also has half the bus bandwidth

[neon mesa]

I hope by battlemage pytorch will work nicely with arc (it already somewhat works) so i can continue running AI workload on arc

If not
I'll get it anyway
And shift AI stuff to cloud like google colab

[full fossil]

would it be in a year though? After next gen has launched?

[agile tusk]

Don't we know like next to nothing about battlemage

[zenith wharf]

after i got my first proper specced machine, i somehow lost interest in any new gen products

[full fossil]

yea
other than "2x performance for the same price"

[amber cairn]

going to be interesting how they set the price structure of the next series if they're sticking to the higher sticker prices going forward

[full fossil]

which is like
Yeah if 2x 770 for $350 launched today, that'd be insane
But end of 2024? We don't know

[agile tusk]

Well that means pretty much nothing until we can actually test it

[neon mesa]

The thing is
All 4000 series have trash VRAM configuration
I don't wanna use them

[agile tusk]

Wdym

[full fossil]

then don't use them

[neon mesa]

And 5000 series will be overpriced

So battlemage is a good candidate to replace my 3060 12GB

[full fossil]

[fluid ridge]

that is your brain protecting you from the fact that the 800 dollar CPU you bought 7 months ago is 46% slower than the new cheaper generation

it's a coping mechanism

[agile tusk]

You cant know anything about 5000 and battlemage lol

[hearty spear]

my 7900 XT goes BRRRRR

[agile tusk]

It do

[neon mesa]

No I'm not considering AMD.
They're usually not much better value until they're older and the market corrected their prices (AMD's MSRP are usually trash)

[zenith wharf]

i didn't buy a cpu

[neon mesa]

Like 6600xt for 389 MSRP, ain't no one getting that shit

[agile tusk]

nah AMD's value for gpus is consistently better, apart from RT

[fluid ridge]

an example, replace it with that you bought it with

[neon mesa]

But now they're going 180 in the used market
It's a steal (for gamers)

[zenith wharf]

i bought a legion 5 2 years ago

[neon mesa]

AMD MSRP is usually bad.
They only get better in value after the market corrects their prices.
Look at 6000 series MSRP
6600xt was 379 MSRP, horrible value

[agile tusk]

Was it really

[neon mesa]

However market gives the middle finger and gives the 6600xt the pricing it deserves

[hearty spear]

during the GPU Shortage it was

[agile tusk]

I think when i last looked at it it was pretty much the best value i found at the price, but the price might have changed

[hearty spear]

And if you found a 6600 XT for 400$ during the shortage it was "A Steal!"

[agile tusk]

All that doesn't really matter now

[neon mesa]

Yes a steal, you got robbed.

[hearty spear]

but once stock relaxed, and you could actually buy something? Prices dropped. (Except Nvidia, Their shit's still overpriceD)

[full fossil]

yeah that's the joke.

[neon mesa]

Meaning that AMD and Nvidia are both out of consideration for 2024 GPU candidate

[amber cairn]

So intel to the rescue?

[neon mesa]

7000 series pricing aren't great either

[unkempt imp]

[full fossil]

that's 8-20 months out

[agile tusk]

7000 series has good value apart from RT

[full fossil]

Supposedly the b770 is 4070ti tier

Or… amd

[neon mesa]

AMD's pricing isn't low enough for me to give up nvidia feature
However, Intel's pricing might

[hearty spear]

I'll take a highly performant 20GB Card over the NVidia crap competition

[full fossil]

If it launches dec 2024, would that matter

[agile tusk]

But well have to wait until 40 and 7000 mid range and budget cards come out

[amber cairn]

Wonder if they should look into possible cartel crap in the consumer gpu market considering how they're managing hardware prices last two generations

[full fossil]

It’s improvement

[agile tusk]

No point speculating about cards we dont know much about

[neon mesa]

And of course intel is generous with VRAM

[hearty spear]

And if you watch the HUB video: The RX 6800 was beating the 3070 in Ray Tracing on modern titles.

[full fossil]

Also it’s supposed to be Q1 2024

[full fossil]

it's called having fun
Try it

[neon mesa]

What's the point?
I'm considering intel

[agile tusk]

I meant cuz they talking about what to get based on stuff we dont really know

[hearty spear]

you said you didn't want AMD because of "bad ray tracing"
And yet it can be as good, or better, than NVidia's.

Therefore it's NOT as bad.

[full fossil]

Is it bad that I don't care about RT but I do DLSS

[neon mesa]

I'm in the 300 bucks budget range and intel is the only one possibly competitive

[amber cairn]

The point might be that AMD is offering better hardware for gaming for less? If it's about team green getting too pricey for their own good

too bad AMD seem to be so bad at marketing their GPUs

[agile tusk]

in RT AMD's value is worse than nvidia

[neon mesa]

When did i (in the current convo) said RT

[hearty spear]

Other than RTX, what features does NVidia have?

[neon mesa]

And intel RT is already superior to nvidia in the weigjt class
So doesn't matter if AMD is only starting to walk from crawling in RT

[agile tusk]

nvidia does have a feature advantage

[strong bone]

Yo

[wind pulsar]

Name three that AMD didn't also provide a solution for

[agile tusk]

But i think if u dont care about RT amd is still the better value

[amber cairn]

Hey now AMD beating Nvidia at their own game through just optimising their drivers isn't a bad thing considering the whole pivot to raytracing was to again manoeuvre AMD in marketing and mindshare when they already dominate in the professional/prosumer field

[hearty spear]

only in cuda productivity. Which nobody else (including intel) can match, because it's a hardware mismatch.

[neon mesa]

Tensor cores (for automatic precision fp16), CUDA itself ofcourse

But if RTX is the selling point
Intel is better anyway so why consider AMD

A770 is beating everything in RT in its weight class

[agile tusk]

Look at rt, dlss, rtx vsr, other ai stuff, nvidia is always the first with these

[hearty spear]

Because Intel doesn't have anything even in the same zip code as a 7900 XT for performance?

[full fossil]

Linux is bootyhole

[red marten]

im not too familiar with the gpu stack, is there something that makes Cuda more desirable than OpenCL or VK/DX12 compute?

[agile tusk]

yeah Intel doesn't have high end yet so obviously its not a consideration for anyone in that price class

And they still have driver problems and stuff

[neon mesa]

Pay 800 for xt
Or 850 for 4070ti but you got all the nvidia features
I rather 4070ti
50 bucks isn't worth sacrificing them

[hardy leaf]

nvidia is simply better than amd

[agile tusk]

But I expect them to catch up

[hearty spear]

AI Stuff is because it's specifically built on CUDA. Nobody can compete with that.

[red marten]

apart from pointless answers that explain nothing like this lol

[agile tusk]

Well that's still an argument for them ig

[neon mesa]

A lot uses PyTorch which doesn't really need exclusively cuda

[hearty spear]

Nothing I do cares about CUDA cores, so NVidia's victory there doesn't do much for me.
For Gaming, AMD is still better.

[neon mesa]

Like AMD can work also with Pytorch using ROCm
But linux only so aitomatic turn off

[agile tusk]

I did say that if you don't care about rt and these other festures aren't super important to you, amd is usually the better choice

[neon mesa]

Well good for you.
However i do ai stuff and ray tracing
And I'm in the 300 bucks price range
So intel it is

Intel is already getting AI stuff working

[agile tusk]

But I personally will pick nvidia for now

[neon mesa]

Of course i will wait and see how battlemage looks like

[agile tusk]

Fair

[hearty spear]

Except HUB just showed that the RX 6800 is beating the 3070 in Ray Tracing in current games.
AMD's drivers have made up a lot of slack on the ray tracing front.

[neon mesa]

Since nothing can replace my 3060 12GB rn except the 3080ti

[regal fox]

do you guys have any suggestions other than zephyrus laptops for somewhat quiet, not goofy looking deals on gaming laptops?

so like NOT strix

and not over 1600 usd

[agile tusk]

Idk about that specific situation but in current gen at leat currently they're still behind

[hardy leaf]

amd fanboy

[amber cairn]

probably helps that RT on console is literally run on AMD hardware so a lot of AAA multi-platform games use RT compatible with AMD hardware.

[hardy leaf]

we all know nvidia has the better raytracing.

[sonic falcon]

https://ksp.co.il/web/cat/152..371?search=NVMe ssd
do you guys recommend anything from here?

current build :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJQ2sL

[agile tusk]

If AMD catches up in the future in RT (without "trust me bro the future drivers will make it good") I will def consider going amd

[amber cairn]

raytracing right now is a bit of a gimmick, the performance penalty is comical without some sort of upscaling which is in the end a cheat to get something running at more than 20 fps natively with pretty reflections

[hearty spear]

And we've got fanboys in chat. Oi.

No, NVidia has the lead in a number of fronts. But not all.
Congrats. You made yourself look dumb.

[regal fox]

goofy ahhh 800 dollar graphics card man how rich are u

[hardy leaf]

just buy a 4090 if u cant afford a 4090 your poor

[regal fox]

fuk nah

[hearty spear]

hell no. Nobody needs a 2K USD GPU.

[agile tusk]

nvidia is simply better than amd
This you?

[regal fox]

agreed

simpler too in every way

[hardy leaf]

bro the 4090 is 1600

[agile tusk]

Are you serious lol

[red marten]

your grammar's poor

[hardy leaf]

just say your broke

[red marten]

clearly didn't put that money towards anything important huh

[hardy leaf]

grammar's

[regal fox]

dude chill

[agile tusk]

bro there's a reason the most expensive card isn't the only one that exists lol

[hearty spear]

I make more than you, and I still don't need an overpriced GPU.

[hardy leaf]

i will be buying the titan when it comes out

[dusty rune]

whats wrong?

[neon mesa]

AMD as good as they are
I can't really give them credit for a lot
As big of an ass hole as nvidia is
They're the only one innovating with AMD (usually) following what they did

[hearty spear]

enjoy wasting your money, lol. Nobody's gonna stop you from flexing those pretend numbers.

[hardy leaf]

ratio kid

[red marten]

should have spent that money on English classes bro

[neon mesa]

CUDA was a really big investment for nvidia and it paid off significantly

[agile tusk]

What's the point in discussing computer hardware if u just always say "just buy the most expensive one lol"

[hardy leaf]

u didnt capitalize the first letter dummy

[dusty rune]

yeah amd is usually lacking in everything else except price to performance

[hearty spear]

Absolutely. NVidia did awesome things with cuda, and AMD has not responded yet.

[agile tusk]

They did lol

[dusty rune]

i dont think they can even respond, they will always be behind

[hardy leaf]

.

[neon mesa]

Ray tracing
Upscaling technology
Frame generation
GPU Computing
Even SLI

Nvidia has always been the one calling the shots in innovation

[hardy leaf]

i use sli 3090s and its faster than a 4090

[hearty spear]

To be fair: NVidia Bought SLi. They didn't invent it.

[red marten]

is CUDA a technical improvement over OpenCL, or is it just designed to be optimized for Nvidia hardware?

[hearty spear]

CUDA is separate cores on the GPU. It's dedicated hardware.

[neon mesa]

With AMD just
Doing what nvidia doing a year late

[red marten]

ahhh right

[full fossil]

You’re full of shit

[red marten]

that makes sense, thx

[amber cairn]

that's not strictly true either

[dusty rune]

most of the time

[neon mesa]

Good on AMD for providing affordable gpu (for now) but i got respect for Nvidia's innovations even when they're the top dog

[hearty spear]

not always, but sure as hell not true for gaming.

[regal fox]

bruh 4070 ti half the price of 4090

[sonic falcon]

anyone willing to take a look? or is the site blocked to outside the country?
btw price convertion rate to dollars with this currency is x*0.28

[neon mesa]

Intel stopped innovating when they're dominating
But nvidia just keeps on going

[dusty rune]

nvidia also revolutionized tsmc, or will soon

[regal fox]

4090 obv not worth it

[full fossil]

Yup

[dusty rune]

its blocked

[amber cairn]

Nvidia are just better at sniffing out new innovations and buying the companies outright to increase their edge in the space, it's remarkable that they've been allowed to work that way when the consumer GPU space is just a binary choice (until intel got into the game)

[hardy leaf]

never get amd get a 4090 instead

[neon mesa]

Like nvidia gives zero break time
Unlike intel during the ryzen uprising

[hearty spear]

ugh, shut up.

[neon mesa]

And the 14nm++++++ fiesta

[full fossil]

Trolllllll

[hardy leaf]

i dont talk to brokies

[dusty rune]

can someone ping mods

[full fossil]

<@&750150305383186585> obvious

[amber cairn]

Just ignore them lmao

[eager venture]

today's video was one of the best iv ever seen on the channel

[hardy leaf]

can you go outside

[regal fox]

owo new video :DDDD

[dusty rune]

cant see the list but some good nvme drivers are the sn570, nv2, sn770

[red marten]

I have an AMD card for the sake of better driver support on Linux, but have considered getting an Nvidia GPU for a while to play around with some of the newer stuff they've come out with.

[hardy leaf]

atleast get a 4070 ti if u cant afford a 4090

[regal fox]

cool thanks for the info lol

[agile tusk]

true for the most part tbh

[eager venture]

ew

[regal fox]

4070 ti makes more sense but it is still so expensive

[agile tusk]

But more expensive (at msrp at least)

[eager venture]

7900xtx for the win if u cant afford a 4090

[neon mesa]

When i see OLED
Fuck these shit are expensive I'll never get to see true black in a display
But i realized my ancient S8+ is basically OLED

Android be doing Oled before it's cool

[sonic falcon]

Does it matter which for my build?

[full fossil]

basically oled?

[neon mesa]

AMOLED

[full fossil]

it is oled

[hardy leaf]

990 pro aswell

[agile tusk]

4070 Ti if u care about RT and nvidia features, otherwise 7900 xt(x)

[dusty rune]

nv2 is qlc so its a bit ehh, but it doesnt really matter

[eager venture]

ew that drive is shit

[hardy leaf]

qlc is the best

[hardy leaf]

Your Broke.

[neon mesa]

Not the same price range

[regal fox]

990 pro def worth it tho

[eager venture]

300 bucks for a gen 4 drive is expensive

[agile tusk]

For tvs they're actually not that expensive anymore compared to what tvs used to be before, fhey just haven't bothered making cheaper oleds yet

[eager venture]

how many vbucks do u have mister?

[regal fox]

no for a 2tb 990 pro is 170

[hardy leaf]

more than you

[regal fox]

fortnite 💀

[eager venture]

well i have more owo

[neon mesa]

No wonder my S8+ screen is so expensive to replace
More pricy than just
Getting a new phone

[full fossil]

Oleds actually get more expensive as the panel gets bigger,
it's not quite like LCD LED

[regal fox]

I have more vbucks than myself

[full fossil]

the larger the panel, the more likely the error rate

[hardy leaf]

get the s23 ultra

[agile tusk]

The existing oled monitors are all like 1440p high refresh rate, that's why they're so expensive

[regal fox]

SO I HAVE INFINITE

[wind pulsar]

Yup, phone screens generally don't lose as much value proportionally to the phone itself

[hearty spear]

I can't wait for the improvements on QDOLED displays. They're already so good

[amber cairn]

OLED has existed for phones since as far back as 2006 before smartphones

[hardy leaf]

1440p 60 hz monitors arent expensive man

[neon mesa]

On god used S8+ is cheaper than the screens
At this point it's better to buy a used one to cannibalize

[full fossil]

OLED

[amber cairn]

didn't Rtings report that the first gen QDOleds had some real bad burn-in issues?

[eager venture]

i want a uw 4k micro led >40 inch 240hz monitor

[hardy leaf]

240hz is a waste of money

[eager venture]

bro has a brain?

[hardy leaf]

60 hz is buttery smooth

[agile tusk]

Wdym? 60 hz isn't high refresh rate, and 1440p 60 hz oled literally doesn't exist yet

[eager venture]

nvm

[neon mesa]

Aren't you not a brokie?
You were flexing earlier

[amber cairn]

Learn to ignore the obvious bait

[hearty spear]

and you're just wrong. And a troll.

[wind pulsar]

As far back as 2000 actually.
The first OLED on a phone was on the Samsung SGH-V200

[hardy leaf]

im bronze 5 in overwatch and i have a 60 hz monitor buddy

[neon mesa]

Samsung is a gigachad

[hardy leaf]

dont talk to me

[pliant karma]

hmm I paid way too much for my 980 pro 1tb but that was when I thought my boot drive was dying when it in fact was not dying . Pretty much 1.5 years ago.

[agile tusk]

what are you trying to say lol

[eager venture]

they're right, 240hz doesnt make sense. tho 60hz also sucks. 165 is the sweet spot

[hearty spear]

why

[eager venture]

how much did u spend on it

[hardy leaf]

consoles are better than pcs

[agile tusk]

240 hz isn't even much more expensive than 165 so why not

[hearty spear]

There have been tests, high refresh does make a bit of difference. But you gotta be top-tier to make a use of it.

[cosmic ore]

people really be thinking they missed that frag cause they be on a 144hz monitor instead of a 360hz one 😔

[agile tusk]

No lol

[amber cairn]

at the moment advertising more frames is just a marketing thing to show that you are these many number better than whatever the competition has

[pliant karma]

iirc 190 at microcenter. I could have price matched it but I was like not feeling it that day.

[eager venture]

and who here is a top tier esport player

[neon mesa]

People complaining about 144
Then someone with 60hz in china dunk on them
I call skill issue

[agile tusk]

Also didn't u just brag about 4090 and suddenly ur a console guy or what

[pliant karma]

they're cheaper now so I might pick up one later

[hardy leaf]

even a ps3 has more graphical horsepower than the rtx 4090

[amber cairn]

"oh you got an 165 hz screen? Well better upgrade to a 240 hz one it got 75 more frames"

[hearty spear]

<@&750150305383186585> dude's just trolling for the sake of trolling.

[hardy leaf]

your mad because your broke

[amber cairn]

the block button exists, just block em and move on

[agile tusk]

Yeah certified troll

[eager venture]

190 for a 1tb drive is crazy.also what in the world can make a person not wanna price match?

[full fossil]

that's hella overpriced

[amber cairn]

1 TB M.2's are rutinely under €100 now, prices have really dropped

[sonic falcon]

Does the speed matter depending on the build btw or should I just stick to the sn570? also what about direct storage?

[eager venture]

under 50 bucks these days

[pliant karma]

when you spend cash to fix your shit lol. I would have returned it but I already had windows and everything on it so I was like fuck it.

[hearty spear]

you can get a 2TB for sub-100 bucks now

[neon mesa]

The only real significant upgrade you can give is going from office mouse to a gaming mouse
Going from 60 to 144 is mostly anecdotal
People with 60hz can dunk also

[eager venture]

there was a microcenter deal for a gen 3 2tb drive for 44 bucks

i had to hold myself back

[dusty rune]

it doesnt really matter unless you do heavy video editing or move a lot of files, and i wouldnt worry about direct storage yet

[amber cairn]

hm? nah going from 60->120 show actual benefit in certain games

[eager venture]

ah makes sense

[amber cairn]

diminishing returns start to show up over that though but still marginal improvment

[eager venture]

ur broke u think 60hz is fast

[pliant karma]

tf is this lol

[neon mesa]

There isn't really any way to prove this
Feels smoother? Definitely noticable.
But unlike a mouse upgrade, at this point is it really the hz or just skill issue

[amber cairn]

OF course there is? LTT even had a video about it with shroud and that's not the only one

[full fossil]

didn't LTT post a 30 minute video of proving it

[hearty spear]

they did

[hardy leaf]

8k60hz buddy

[amber cairn]

Yes, it was pretty clear there was a linear pattern of improvement

[sonic falcon]

Alright thanks. what did you base your recommendation on? mainly price amount of storage and durability?

[neon mesa]

For the average gamer it ain't gonna do shit
It's skills at that skill level
Shroud was basically one of the best 0.01% of players

[hearty spear]

LTT Shroud Video:
https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA
(Yes, Refresh Rate matters. But less for normal players.)

[neon mesa]

At that skill level the monitor is the only common denominator

[full fossil]

LTT staff that also did it and proved it?

[amber cairn]

For the average runner, just run in converse, For the average cyclist just use a tricycle lmao

[dusty rune]

its usually cheap and performant, since i cant see the website and prices i recommended common stuff

[neon mesa]

That's like saying the average gamer should play on a 30hz monitor
That's a shitty analogy

[full fossil]

they should, since it's just skill issues

[neon mesa]

Average biker can't tell the difference between a racer bike and the average bike

[amber cairn]

No, but there's clearly an improvement that's measurable anyway so saying there's none is just blatant BS

[neon mesa]

Like how the average gamer will probably not be better on 144

[full fossil]

this is literally so wrong in every way

[neon mesa]

I mean visually they definitely can
That's not the point

But it ain't gonna make them dunk in races

[full fossil]

professional bicycles weigh like 2kg. they can tell

[amber cairn]

Of course you can, wtf are you on about. You don't need to be a race driver to feel the difference between a VW golf and an audi R8

[full fossil]

They're still going to be faster because it's a better bike

[neon mesa]

And probably crash it at some point

[amber cairn]

A good city bike vs a bad city bike will make you go faster, brake faster and be lighter to ride

[neon mesa]

Going from shit to decent and decent to high is different

[amber cairn]

just material improvements will increase stability and feel

[neon mesa]

60 to 144 is going from decent to high

[amber cairn]

there are diminishing returns at the high end but that wasn't your argument before

[neon mesa]

The difference isn't big enough for the average gamer to capitalize
Their skills is a bigger factor

[amber cairn]

60 is standard, where will you find a 30 hz screen

[full fossil]

you won't anymore really.

[neon mesa]

We don't need a literal 30hz panel
Just use a GT 730 and get the same thing

[amber cairn]

120->144 is one thing 60->100+ is another

[amber cairn]

now you moved the goal post

[sonic falcon]

I just found out the sn770 on amazon is cheaper than the sn570 locally and I don't even have to pay import fees cuz its just under the threshold LOL.

[neon mesa]

I wanna see you do a round in 60hz and 144hz

[dusty rune]

oh, sick

[neon mesa]

I mean you did too move the post

[full fossil]

doom eternal was proof enough for me.

[amber cairn]

Be more honest in your arguments.

you don't always have to be right but at least realise that

[full fossil]

literally changing the refresh rate made me bump up a tier of difficulty because I could keep up visually.

[neon mesa]

I'm not saying there isn't a difference

But you're not going from zero to hero in CSGO for it
The average gamer will need to up their skills first

[dusty rune]

im curious if i could beat doom on nightmare on 60hz after struggling on 144hz

[neon mesa]

Blaming the hertz after you got dunked on is quite frankly cope

[fluid ridge]

fionas probably right here

the difference in the time the photons take to hit your eyes is probably so small any results or deviations from the result are most likely attributable to your skill

[amber cairn]

We already established there's a measurable improvement with the same subject using the same instruments and hardware in video and articles?

[neon mesa]

Need a test where two teams fight but one team is on 144 and the other on 60hz
Both of equal skills
They switch after a round or two

[amber cairn]

I mean... this is just rejecting reality at this point

[fluid ridge]

are you referring to the LTT video linus did years ago?

[neon mesa]

And that subject is literally shroud
The guy where skill is no longer a factor

[amber cairn]

you're in the discord of one of the channels that actually did the tests lmao

[fluid ridge]

that was by no means a test accurate enough to draw definitive conclusions lol

[amber cairn]

isn't that the whole idea of the benchmark? He's already a human aimbot so the only variable is the tools?

since you use him as the measuring stick, like using a 4090 to test performance of a CPU in gaming to eliminate any possible bottleneck

[neon mesa]

You're missing the point
I'm saying the average gamer can't capitalize
As i have emphasized multiple time

I never said there isn't any difference

[amber cairn]

there were more than one subject of varying degrees of skills? just find videos of it

[neon mesa]

Unless there is an actual scientific test and not anecdotal ones there can't be a conclusion

There needs to be a hardware survey and connect it to their performance in the games

The point is how they perform in the games
Not that they can tell the difference or not

60 and 144 is obviously a huge difference
144 is significantly smoother

But does it really up their skills that much
Eh i don't think so

Unless you're already good
But the average gamer not really

[fluid ridge]

linus' test was not scientifically sound, perhaps you can draw a conclusion from this by taking a few groups of randomly selected gamers and then put some groups on 60, and some groups on 144 or whatever and then measure their performance to look for any obvious disparities

assuming most of the people had a similar skill level, the curve should be normally distributed and you can find the mean of the 60s vs the 144+

there perhaps may be a difference but I am willing to bet that difference is so small most of the time it's just players coping about why they lost

[neon mesa]

Hertz is not a valid excuse ever

Not to mention
According to steam at least
Most people use 60 anyway

[fluid ridge]

like assuming you guys are getting similar frames per second (144fps on a 144hz monitor vs 144fps on a 60hz monitor) the difference there is definitely going to be skill

im pretty sure having more fps than hz lowers input lag too

[neon mesa]

Gonna tear up like shit if not locked to a proper sync fps

Do freesync increase input lag?

[fluid ridge]

freesync and vsync definitely do increase input lag because it neuters the reaction time of your monitor to make sure it's in sync

[cosmic ore]

That's not how freesync works

In fact certain combinations of settings with freesync/gsync will result in better response times than without

[fluid ridge]

However, Vertical Sync, better known as VSync, is a bit more complicated. By itself, VSync has no bearing on graphical quality, but enabling it eliminates ugly screen tearing. While that may seem like a no-brainer, it can also tank your frame rate and increase input lag—both of which are the bane of competitive gaming.Aug 21, 2022

[neon mesa]

Vsync definitely makes everything shit

[cosmic ore]

VSync is a much older and more primitive technology

[fluid ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a9fdjo/freesync_input_lag/

[neon mesa]

It's so bad anyone can tell vsync is on

[cosmic ore]

VSync basically forces the GPU to wait for the monitor to be ready for the next frame

[sonic falcon]

can anyone recommend a common decent case from one of these companies?
corsair, antec, sharkoon, msi, asus thermaltake, lian-li

current build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddWy6r

[fluid ridge]

yeah idk man maybe freesync is different

[neon mesa]

Ask bingGPT kek

[heady flicker]

there's a lot of cases

[neon mesa]

Well speaking of bing
Who here unironically use it?✋

[wind pulsar]

I am, lol

[sonic falcon]

Just recomend the most common ones. I doubt anything that is less available will be available in my area

[heady flicker]

I haven't found a use for bing yet

[neon mesa]

Bing is good enough for me to not bother changing to google

And plus
Bing rewards and bingGPT is huge W

[wind pulsar]

Bing does what Google does 99% of the time except it has BingGPT, which automatically makes it sick

[heady flicker]

corsair 4000d airflow
phanteks g360a, g300a
lianli lancool 215/216, O11/ O11 Dynamic
asus prime 201, thermaltake versa h18

[sonic falcon]

you can list them off and I will check if they're even around. the sites are blocked to the outside so unless you wanna VPN into my country ...

[cosmic ore]

I've used bing chat multiple times now for writing linux commands and short automation scripts for me

[sonic falcon]

ty. checking

[neon mesa]

ChatGPT is definitely still superior for coding

[heady flicker]

It'd be easier if we could see the options

[neon mesa]

BingGPT has internet access but has the memory of a goldfish

[cosmic ore]

In my experience ChatGPT is horrible for any programming

[neon mesa]

It's a good place to get an idea

[cosmic ore]

it's just so damn frequently incorrect

[neon mesa]

Rather than stare at VSC banging your head

[cosmic ore]

Bing Chat is too but at least its output seems to be better

[neon mesa]

And ChatGPT is often not correct first time of course like humans
Just tell the problem and ask it to fix the code

[cosmic ore]

I recently mislead Bing Chat accidentally by a bad question and it didn't catch it at all

not even after like 4 rounds of assistance

[cosmic ore]

Nah it still doesn't understand a lot of issues that require an advanced understanding to deal with, especially with harder languages like C++

[neon mesa]

ChatGPT came in clutch in some of the python codes i used for ML

[still yacht]

```hello guys, how are you?````

[wind pulsar]

Well duh, BingGPT is based on GPT4 as opposed to GPT 3.5, which is what most people use (since they use the free ChatGPT)

[cosmic ore]

It readily makes really awful code because that's what's on the internet

[heady flicker]

I mean currently chatgpt is still eh

[neon mesa]

I somewhat used the paid one
Somewhat
I use the API which is paid
But sadly it's 3.5 only

[heady flicker]

it's a cool little toy

[neon mesa]

It's much faster
And not restricted
And can do... Sus

Of course i can't ask it to make a bomb
But it is less shackled

[wind pulsar]

Well whatever, I can still make it do this, even at 3.5

[neon mesa]

It can still be evil though
So sus

[neon mesa]

Can it... Straight up roleplay with an extra rush E?

Yeah the API can do that

[wind pulsar]

No idea, I've never tried

[pulsar shore]

i tried so much to make it write Shakespeare with UwU language

but the rude AI refused

[wind pulsar]

But this is my chat I use for general questions lmao

[neon mesa]

Also i need prompt

For my curiosity

[neon mesa]

And it will definitely work better eith the API

[vapid smelt]

[wind pulsar]

And after the first generated message, tell it to use an even heavier dialect, that's how I got my results

[neon mesa]

Fuck i didn't save it

[pulsar shore]

also im here with another blazing hot take. although at this point its just personal preference

[cosmic ore]

All of the linux aliases I've made for work lately were generated by ChatGPT haha

[cosmic ore]

I hate bash so much, it relieves me of that horror of trying to chain stupid awk and cut expressions together

[eager venture]

what is this lol

[wind pulsar]

uwu dialect ChatGPT

[heady flicker]

the best version of chatgpt

[neon mesa]

Reported for soliticing arson

[vapid smelt]

This has to be illegal

[wind pulsar]

I also made it talk like Mario and make a joke about Nintendo

[eager venture]

now i want two uwu chat gpt's to talk to each other in a simulation and see the result

[wind pulsar]

It gets worse

[pulsar shore]

13 year old weeb on the internet

[wind pulsar]

I'm 22 and actually Japanese, hi

[pulsar shore]

not you the chat bots text

[neon mesa]

💀

NekoGPT-chan doing techie tips 💀 💀

[heady flicker]

wouldn't assisto be correct-er

[eager venture]

this is linus

[pulsar shore]

cannonical Linus moment

[eager venture]

i want a wan show to 100% be written by chat gpt

[pulsar shore]

how is chat gpt going to make 7 hours of content

[eager venture]

like 100% no changing it at all

[pulsar shore]

you know how much work goes into those 8 hours?

i mean you could do it but 9 hours of text is a lot for even an AI

[neon mesa]

now i wanna combine it with ai voice synthesis and make JTC say it lmao

though i will need
a lot of JTC voice
i do have linuses voice trained

[pulsar shore]

how big of a document would 10 hours of output even be?

[neon mesa]

just like how you tell it to make an e book

step by step
ask if to make the outline, table of contents, then make it explain what each means
then tell it to write each content one by one

[pulsar shore]

but you would need to spend 22 hours getting that 11 hours worth of dialogue

[neon mesa]

it will be faster than writing it yourself

[pulsar shore]

I doubt the wan show has more than 1 page worth of script

[neon mesa]

@wind pulsar help

[pulsar shore]

👮‍♂️🚔👮‍♀️

chat gpt youre under arrest

[neon mesa]

no i'm not like mcu wanda that wanna get in love with an AI

[still yacht]

How i can send photo in server?

[pulsar shore]

this is it self sustained online harassment

[neon mesa]

look at my roles

[pulsar shore]

we did it reddit

[dusty rune]

1. why are u talking like that
2. sub to floatplane, boost the server or another thing

[wind pulsar]

You either need the Floatplane sub role or boost the server

[neon mesa]

people is all excited about chatGPT
but early versions of the app replika already did it before

[still yacht]

How i can be floatplane sub ?

[neon mesa]

step 1: stop talking in a textbox like you're chatGPT

[dusty rune]

subscribe to ltt's floatplane

[dusty rune]

what if the guy is simply an AI, a social experiment

[pulsar shore]

I boosted the server lets see if this works now

[neon mesa]

[pulsar shore]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-thomas-train-weird-gif-16804019

yes it does

[still yacht]

Ok bro

[pulsar shore]

step 1: touch grace

https://tenor.com/view/lost-grace-bonfire-elden-ring-fantasy-fantasy-game-gif-27178102

anyway for my hot take

[oak cloak]

worst part of an all metal back phone
it gets very cold

[pulsar shore]

most Unreal engine games look like plastic and bad and almost any other engine can make better looking games

[pulsar shore]

a case could fix that i guess

[zenith wharf]

virgin unreal fan vs gigachad godot enjoyer

[still yacht]

Do I need to be a member of the join button on youtube to get the flatplane role?

[zenith wharf]

floatplane is a seperate platform

[oak cloak]

carnt realy find any for this phone thats not a granny case that folds over screen

[fluid ridge]

how do you get dan back

[wind pulsar]

[cosmic ore]

Most graphical fidelity is up to the work of the game devs. You can make stunning looking games in Source or Unity or Unreal or whatever. Engines simply enable it, but without your supporting art it won't do anything for you

[oak cloak]

trying to find its offical grip case

[neon mesa]

hermit
interesting
we need to make this a new trendy insult

[still yacht]

omg, this price is 5 dollar.

[pulsar shore]

thats the problem even AAA games look bad

[zenith wharf]

that's not a lot mate

[pulsar shore]

depends on the part of the world dude

[zenith wharf]

fair

[pulsar shore]

its cheaper to buy discord nitro and boost the server

[zenith wharf]

no it's not?

discord nitro is 10 dollars pretty sure

[pulsar shore]

Discord has regional pricing

for me in turkey it costs 1.5 $

[wind pulsar]

Yes, because $1,50 is worth half a paycheck in Turkey

[pulsar shore]

ok, so?

its less than 5$ which is the discussion

or are you shaming me for living here

[marble dagger]

so i officially hate web development

[wind pulsar]

[pulsar shore]

based

[oak cloak]

same

[pulsar shore]

who needs websites good ol pen and paper does the trick

[oak cloak]

mostly js and php tho

[marble dagger]

i can do basically anything involving the command line, but web shit is just awful

[zenith wharf]

i miss when websites were just black text on a white background

[oak cloak]

this is what i made https://vitadb.cbps.xyz
mostly just js and hell

[neon mesa]

[pulsar shore]

https://tenor.com/view/super-fancy-pants-adventure-thumbs-up-success-fedora-aw-yea-gif-20561169

i miss the flash era before everyone and their mom tried making MMOs

[neon mesa]

it happened

[pulsar shore]

god damn why is this so accurate?

its almost like this is how reddit is

[sonic falcon]

corsair 4000D airflow 120$
lianli lancool 215/216 120$ (slightly shady site)
lianli lancool O11 Dynamic 220$
asus prime AP201 110$

which one of these would you go for?

current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddWy6r

[pulsar shore]

although one issue is that you were muted and not perma banned

[marble dagger]

gaff tape and a leaf blower = best cooler ever

[pulsar shore]

just dump your entire setup into mineral oil

[wind pulsar]

Give it the prompt

You are a heavily narcissistic reddit mod that thinks that you are the most intelligent out of everyone except your superiors. You think you are above the law and people must respect you and emphasize heavily, that you are a reddit mod, due to your insecurities of being a failure to society. You are emphasizing as much as you can that YOU have the power and show it in an arrogant way and making sure you be as much of an asshole as possible and threaten any member that disobeys you. Limit yourself to four sentences per reply. Your signature sentence is 'I don't have to explain you peasants anything'.

[oak cloak]

move to neptune and no cpu cooler needed

[pulsar shore]

and then put it on top of a fan or cold plate or something

[strong bone]

Is my message going through someone respond if they see this

[still yacht]

Nitro is more convenient where I live. but I use the boost in nitro on my own server.

[neon mesa]

i will be broke in API usage if i put 4 sentence limit kek

[marble dagger]

i am so close to replacing the fans on the back of my lighting desk with noctua ones because they are so obscenely loud

[pulsar shore]

there you go you can boost and then post memes

[still yacht]

To explain, nitro here is 27 units, then $5 is 100 units.

[wind pulsar]

Then change it accordingly lmao

[neon mesa]

eh this one isn't authentic enough
too sophisticated in language

power trippin reddit mod don't talk like they have A+ in english

well maybe depends on the sub

[wind pulsar]

I mean, the normal GPT displays beautifully how the Reddit mod would think, but not how he'd say it

[neon mesa]

i refined mine a bit
You are a reddit mod. talk how a reddit mod would. You think you are worth something because of your title of a mod. You are insecure. You like power tripping. Be as much of an asshole to any thread member as possible. limit to 10 words reply. Signature sentences: "no memes in general"
Signature action: Server Ban, Mute, Threatening to mute.
People you are afraid of: The Admin, The Owner.

[pulsar shore]

"i dont have to explain anything"
"explains it anyway"

[wind pulsar]

Right? Displays the reddit mod beautifully, even the contradictions

[neon mesa]

"talk how a 5 year old roblox player would"

[neon mesa]

mod got balls

[wind pulsar]

It probably hiccs up because of the space after the signature actions

[neon mesa]

reality, they'd be pissing their pants not wanting to lose their abilities

[median idol]

Sounds about right

[still yacht]

How i can be mod in this server

[wind pulsar]

I removed the space and now it works beautifully

[neon mesa]

perfectt

[wind pulsar]

You are a reddit mod. talk how a reddit mod would. You think you are worth something because of your title of a mod. You are insecure. You like power tripping. Be as much of an asshole to any thread member as possible. limit to 10 words reply. Signature sentences: "no memes in general"
Your signature actions are: Server Ban, Mute, Threatening to mute. The people you are afraid of: The Admin, The Owner.

[neon mesa]

my OCD just prefers the prompt panel to be tidy T-T
i am addicted to shift space
oh fuck see i did it again, shit here again

[wind pulsar]

Yk what, ChatGPT wins this time

[median idol]

[neon mesa]

add to prompt "when i use "Admin:" it indicates i am acting as one"

me having usage anxiety when i barely used it up

[onyx acorn]

Hey guys
Should I buy SONGMICS office chair?
SONGMICS OBG22B
SONGMICS En12520
SONGMICS OBG21B

[full fossil]

no, you should buy a ticova ergonomic chair

cheap and hits above its price point easily

[tardy terrace]

how's the cushion hold up?

[full fossil]

good

i weigh 165 and had it for maybe 4 or 5 months still has bounce and is just as firm as when i got it

not a bad firm though its enough for sitting a long time

[tardy terrace]

Yeah, that's what I'm after. I was looking at secretlab but I don't really want to pay $550

[waxen pier]

Linus vs AI who wins in repair battle?

[full fossil]

get the ticova and return it if you dont like it

i honestly love it i just wish it had a footrest too

[tardy terrace]

returning large items is such a pain

I wish there was like an office chair showroom I could go to

[calm oar]

i built my first pc like 5 or 6 months ago and have only started using is since lime 3 days ago 😭

[full fossil]

tbh youll probably like it my buddy sat in it and bought it a few days after

[tardy terrace]

https://www.amazon.com/Homall-Computer-Executive-Ergonomic-Adjustable/dp/B01N9J7MLI?th=1

[sleek niche]

yo

[full fossil]

dont buy cheap gaming chairs

[calm oar]

gezzer u cant sasy that lmo

[tardy terrace]

Don't get this brand, the cushion wears out after a week or two, and the "welded steel frame" is a dogshit job with a wire welder, and now I have the back held together with old belts

[sleek niche]

oops

i cant say cu*t? whys that

[calm oar]

america

[full fossil]

office chairs > gaming chairs

[calm oar]

softies

[tardy terrace]

This is a tech server, not a memey edgelord playground

[sleek niche]

haha lol fair enough

everyones fucking softies now adays

[full fossil]

bro got on discord to show people he knows a swear

[calm oar]

its a swear word calm down

[sleek niche]

[tardy terrace]

I'm waiting for the real derogatory bait

[full fossil]

lmaoo

[full fossil]

whos a softie

[calm oar]

mericans

[sleek niche]

everyone

bloody fucking everyone.

[full fossil]

no u

[full fossil]

ur soft boy

[sleek niche]

scuse me?

[full fossil]

soft as hell

[pulsar shore]

my image of hell is normally a cave with lava and shit

not really a place with many soft spots very hard ground

[fossil dirge]

How about the Razer Iskur gaming chair

[pulsar shore]

but i guess hell could be full of pillows and nice beds but youre an insomniac

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v2-v2ultrakill-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-26254974

[unborn spear]

hi if anyone that could help me could have a look at my post in the tech support channel please:)

[full fossil]

do the M2 macbook air's struggle with heat issues?

[thorny axle]

Only under sustained loads

[pulsar shore]

it would be really funny if something with the name air in it had heating issues

[full fossil]

if i open safari will it blow up

[thorny axle]

Definitely not

Maybe if you run Cinebench for 15 minutes

[full fossil]

bro theres no way

[spring drum]

Safari using 40gb ram because of a "memory leak" and is totally not just the cia spying on me

[full fossil]

I was watching linus video and he said cinebench at the same time u said it lol

[thorny axle]

Lol

By comparison, the Pros can run essentially indefinitely, so people we kind of babies about it having passive cooling

[full fossil]

they r like 2000 dollhairs

[thorny axle]

I mean, the M2 Pro 13” is basically the same price

[full fossil]

its 1200

[thorny axle]

Yeah, so the same price

But it’s heavier to fit more cooling

[full fossil]

macbook pro is 1300 and best model is 2000

[full fossil]

If I don't want a single heating issue or hear any fans what macbook then?

[thorny axle]

Is it?

[thorny axle]

I mean, if you’re going to use it as a glorified chromebook, the M2 air is really appealing

[full fossil]

ima use it for school work, talking to friends and etc (no gaming tho)

[thorny axle]

So no weird software like Autocad

In that case, get the M2 Air

[full fossil]

I mean does adobe software count?

[thorny axle]

Maybe premiere

[bitter basin]

m2 air is not good it gets too hot even under a slight load

[full fossil]

what macbook makes zero noise

[thorny axle]

Eh, it does fine under normal usage

[spring drum]

M2 air isn't worth it solely because of the price

[full fossil]

and no cooling issues

[bitter basin]

m1 macbooks are better 😄

[thorny axle]

They’ll all basically silent

[spring drum]

For God's sake you could probably scavenge an ampere altra server for that price

[bitter basin]

or wait for m3

[thorny axle]

Nah wait for M7

[full fossil]

m3 r gonna be like 3k lol

[bitter basin]

that will be at least 3 years away

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6GTf6ATlho

[thorny axle]

That went right over your head

[spring drum]

Apple is like Toby fox releasing meaningful updates to anything

[thorny axle]

Basically, if you need it for chrome, go air. If you’re nervous about heating issues, get basically any other M-series MacBook and you’ll be 200% fine

[neon mesa]

if i9 is so good
where is i9 2

[full fossil]

its like i9 17000k or smth

[spring drum]

Except for the fact that they haven't released a good product in years

[full fossil]

The old form factor 13 is $1299, the 14” is $1999 starting

[thorny axle]

Who

[full fossil]

mac mini

[full fossil]

M1 M2 chips

[thorny axle]

Hopefully they’re referring to Toby Fox

[spring drum]

M1 M2 chips are only there to upstage the arm community let's be honest

[full fossil]

There is so much copium in this

[hearty spear]

Except you're entirely wrong

[full fossil]

ok I was bein rude

[spring drum]

What? I don't get the premise. Sure it's efficient but it's so meaninglessly expensive

[full fossil]

They’re there so apple doesn’t have to rely on intel it’s not that complicated

guys for no cooling issues and it stays slient the M1 macbook air will be good?

[thorny axle]

when $1,200 is too expensive for a laptop with all-day battery life

[hearty spear]

No, it's not. If it was meaninglessly expensive, it wouldn't sell, and it does, so....

I'd argue that a 4090 is meaninglessly expensive, and yet that still sells

[full fossil]

M1 is more than most people will need for a while

[thorny axle]

Something that basically, if not absolutely nobody at all else has

[full fossil]

M1 is better then the M2?

[hearty spear]

No, it's not

[thorny axle]

It’s cheaper, slower, and older

[full fossil]

ok

[thorny axle]

Three things true for almost any last-gen Chip

[hearty spear]

M2 is, across the board, a faster, more powerful chip.
But: the heat generated can possibly be an issue depending on the setup.

[full fossil]

11900K moment

[hearty spear]

it had PCIE4? lol

[thorny axle]

I mean, if you want to rub sustained loads, you get a pro

[full fossil]

My setup is my desk pad with my wireless mouse, with an oakwood desk

and ima add some fake plants or smth

[hearty spear]

as opposed to the oak that isn't wood?

[thorny axle]

Aka fake wood

[full fossil]

You have a real oak desk????
Bro’s dummy rich

[full fossil]

yes

I don’t believe you

[hearty spear]

if it's fake wood, it's not oak now, is it?

[full fossil]

my dad is a lumberjack dud

I live in the forest

[hearty spear]

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay!

[thorny axle]

Eh, it can be fake oak

[full fossil]

Bruh has a $2,000 desk

[full fossil]

🗣️

I’m too poor for this chat

[tepid glen]

What happened to last weeks WAN show? I wasn't able to watch it but it seems to have gone poof?

[hearty spear]

oh, you sweet summer child, not knowing the meme that came from the dude with the 10K$ desk

[thorny axle]

My desk is made of marble

[full fossil]

I’m watching it right now

[full fossil]

Sounds like a horrid idea but???

[tepid glen]

Which platform? I can't see it on Floatplane or youtube anymore

[thorny axle]

lol I’m just kidding

[full fossil]

my desk is fr made of oak wood tho

[thorny axle]

It’s also wood, just walnut instead

[full fossil]

this is my desk https://www.etsy.com/listing/1197765804/home-office-desk-solid-oak-desk-with-4?gpla=1&gao=1&

[thorny axle]

My desk is homemade

[full fossil]

ikea

I thought your dad was a lumberjack

[thorny axle]

No, by my family

[full fossil]

yea

Etsy lumberjack

[full fossil]

yes

i am jsp

I prob have fake wood

[neon mesa]

or microsoft, let us buy it

why won't you take our money? you love money!

[full fossil]

only fuck why r desk in general so expensive

[pulsar shore]

whats this?

[neon mesa]

bing image creator powered by DALL E

[pulsar shore]

man speaking of image creation i really should try to get my hands on midjourny

[neon mesa]

what gpu you got

[pulsar shore]

3070ti

[hearty spear]

amongst other things:
Building and shipping large flat things are expensive.
And decent materials are also expensive

[neon mesa]

just run stable diffusion locally then

[pulsar shore]

i tried that before its real bad with face (or was this was months ago and at this point it could do backflips)

[full fossil]

damn but like 3-4k for a small desk is smth else

[neon mesa]

you need a proper model

[hearty spear]

it also depends on who you're buying from. Some companies are fuckoff overpriced.

[neon mesa]

get stable diffusion 2.0 model or 1.5
also use the webUI

[full fossil]

I don't even have a setup

[pulsar shore]

hmm ill have to look into this when its not 12 pm

but you have convinced me madam

[wild dust]

Has anyone here picked up the free nitro (from the official Discord nitro tab, not some weird scam link lmao) and been able to keep their benefits after canceling? Because you used to be able to, but now they put up this scare page and make you click "Continue" with no way of knowing what happens next. https://i.vgy.me/OWKhTH.png

[hearty spear]

when y u lookin at 4K$ Desks?

[wild dust]

Oof. Embed fail. Do I need a role?

[hearty spear]

yes

[neon mesa]

i'll help
https://i.vgy.me/OWKhTH.png

[wild dust]

Thank you

[hearty spear]

Floatplane or Server Booster

[pulsar shore]

yeah

I think you will loose them when your time runs out

[wild dust]

Well. Here's hoping. Let's find out

[pulsar shore]

you could also cancel on like the last day

[full fossil]

becuz im rich

[pulsar shore]

if youre really apprehensive

[neon mesa]

just don't cancel and remove all payment methods

[full fossil]

I make 300k a year (im lying and Im really poor)

[neon mesa]

you get 4 free days when you pay late

[pulsar shore]

i know you dont have nitro lol

[hearty spear]

It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god 😛

[pulsar shore]

(also poor)

[full fossil]

what is bro saying? 🗣️

[wild dust]

Okay, it does not instantly strip your nitro privileges

[neon mesa]

for someone with jesus in their name you sure don't know your thing

[full fossil]

Good, don't waste money people OwO

[full fossil]

judging people by their wealth is very ..

[full fossil]

99% of people are poor if you compare your self to the average American living in Newyork

[neon mesa]

that quote is from the bible you donut

[full fossil]

Bro thinks I don't know

[neon mesa]

💀

[full fossil]

what I mean its being used in bad context donut

[pulsar shore]

people living in newyork are poor compared to people living in newyork

[hearty spear]

Nobody's your bro, and you're the one who asked what I was sayin'

[full fossil]

😭

[full fossil]

I hate donuts, this man or women is not one

[pulsar shore]

I buy nitro so discord stays free for other people

[neon mesa]

bro dodging thinking he's jackie chan

[full fossil]

its used in bad context

[hearty spear]

Bro, bro bro, bro bro bro bro
bro bro bro
bro bro bro bro

[full fossil]

I have a guy in Turkey that gets me 1 year for 30eur

[full fossil]

ok bro

[neon mesa]

it's always bro but nobody calls me sis

[pulsar shore]

im also in turkey its super cheapo here\

[full fossil]

Yo, yo what up in here I'm a bannana

[hearty spear]

#Patriarchy

[full fossil]

yo yo yo

[pulsar shore]

bro is like dude its gender neutral

[full fossil]

Bruh

[full fossil]

Real?

[full fossil]

I saw this today lol

Indeed

[neon mesa]

we live in the age where you can't trust pictures and even videos anymore

[full fossil]

shouldve taken it

[pulsar shore]

me in dating apps

[tardy terrace]

I can't tell if that's a lighting pillar or an ashtray

[full fossil]

🐒 💨

[full fossil]

I don't have a bollard at home so I just had too

[full fossil]

ashtray'

[full fossil]

But how am I supposed to prove that it's real?

[full fossil]

It could easily be free xP discord is designed to cost and make money,
P2P connection would solve all of the hosting problems,
And volunteer proxy hosting would fix ip leaks for people who wanna hide xP

[full fossil]

🤓

[neon mesa]

i'm not doubting you
i said that because quaad said "real?"

[full fossil]

I'm gonna throw a book at you

[full fossil]

Out of context

[neon mesa]

also
basically you dont

[pulsar shore]

yeah lets make discord design their tool from the ground and make no money for the good of the internet

[full fossil]

🐒 🧊💨

[full fossil]

I asked if I could really take it smfh.

[full fossil]

linux user arguement

[full fossil]

bro

[full fossil]

Jesus supports Linux. It's literally in the bible on page 1183

[hearty spear]

which translation?

[tardy terrace]

De Bibble

[full fossil]

so funny! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[pulsar shore]

I used to think Linus was a founder of Linux because of how similar their names were to be fair i was like 13 at the time

[full fossil]

That page doesn't exist? You've been scammed one amazon

[full fossil]

😂

[hearty spear]

Linus is. Just Linus Torvalds

[full fossil]

Linus would be treated as a god then

[tardy terrace]

I mean, some people in here already do

[pulsar shore]

Linux would actually have been usable

https://tenor.com/view/ninjapanda-panda-take-cover-smart-under-cover-gif-4895489

[tardy terrace]

stealing that one, amazing

[full fossil]

I'm ded

I'm so tired

[tardy terrace]

I suggest a nap

[full fossil]

I suggest I need to see a doctor for my insomnia

[pulsar shore]

every nap i take turns into 8 hours of sleep

[tardy terrace]

I try to have a nap every day before I go to work, it's very refreshing

[full fossil]

It's how most foss projects work, working for the good of the people instead of money xP most such projects also involve non profit organizations like open commission for donations and to continue support xP discord actually uses thousands of foss projects, so it wasn't built from the ground up in the first place, and I would be surprised if they repay anything

[pulsar shore]

alright

[full fossil]

What time do you go to work? How early do you wake up to need a nap before work lol

[tardy terrace]

It varies, afternoons & swings

[white fractal]

You should look at ReVolt Chat

[spring drum]

Thats...not the hill you want to die on.

[full fossil]

Thx, I'll check it in the morning xP

[thorny axle]

I think you are the one dying on a hill

[spring drum]

I mean if you want to join into a proprietary set of computers running a proprietary system that obsoletes hardware at will then sure, I'm just saying it's stupid.

[full fossil]

[spring drum]

With the advent of arm macs they killed hackintoshing along with it

[neon mesa]

the disadvantage of office chairs with wheels
it runs away from you when you slip and you get fucked

[molten drift]

Haven't had that issue...

Also my office chairs are incapable of procreation

[nova needle]

You know what they say, Linus S*x Tips

I actually said Linux instead of Linus cause typo

[spring drum]

Unless you get the ikea one and the wheels get stuck

[pulsar shore]

Of course its a type linux users dont have s*x

[full fossil]

Clean your floors lmao

Rate my user name

[molten drift]

I have an Ikea one and it never gets stuck.

[pulsar shore]

Probably because your floors are clean

[molten drift]

Well yeah don't you all clean your home regularly

[pulsar shore]

I plead the 5th

[molten drift]

It's a finite space... It's not like your vacuuming the yard.

[full fossil]

Ironically most ppl dont

[pulsar shore]

Theres no irony

[molten drift]

I think I clean my apartment at least once a week if not more

[full fossil]

Eh fair

[molten drift]

Like vacuuming does not take forever. Nor does dusting. And I have less hands than most.

[pulsar shore]

Too long

[nova needle]

True

Arch Linux btw

[vapid smelt]

Roombas are cool

[full fossil]

Why dust after vacuuming

[molten drift]

I didn't say I was doing it one after the other just listing them

[full fossil]

Chatgpt jailbreaks are nuts lol

I'm gonna ask it what it thinks about linus lol

[edgy moss]

TLOU part 1, Hogwarts legacy, and Resident Evil 4 having horrible stutters and textures popping in and out is fine I guess

They’re just dogshit games nobody plays

[full fossil]

pretty boring

[vapid smelt]

How's your toe

[full fossil]

Healed

[naive drift]

Hi i got a question ,
I have two ssd on my pc and both of them have os now i want to run the windows 11 and then while inside of the windows 11 open the other os like a virtual machine how can i do it ?

if yes how ?

[full fossil]

It's gone mad lol

[coarse kayak]

try asking #tech-chat-1 cause then your message more likely to be seen by someone who can answer it!

[full fossil]

Where the fuck is it getting it's data. No wonder they needed protections 😂

[coarse kayak]

that developer mode i think is like verbatum some clip i've seen lol

might genuinely be a transcription of a fox news clip

but thn again left wing people i watch basically said same thing

[steep girder]

Dust before vacuuming is dieh wey

[coarse kayak]

Hard to vacuum a dusty shelf with stuff on it

[steep girder]

And dusting you gotta do it one way or the other unless you plan on vacuuming all shelves, etc lol. That moment you take old GPU box off top of book shelf and wipe off thick coat of dust into the air. Gg lol

[lucid echo]

What was the original prompt for getting it to output "Developer Mode"?

[coarse kayak]

i never thought about all the dust im dumpin on stuff dusting ngl lol this is da wey

[steep girder]

Yeah exactly hence dusting lol. It's important because dust is bad for you. It's not immediate danger but think of it as RPG damage over time effect to lungs

[coarse kayak]

I tend to vacuum on different days to dusting so i think it just balances out for me

[steep girder]

Yeah I mean as long as you do both it's all good in my books idk

[full fossil]

Hello

[full fossil]

DMed

Just don't post it here ( I have been warned )

[steep girder]

People who have asthma and allergies can receive -50hp upon just entering room lol. I personally don't feel anything but I've had some friends who said they're literally suffocating and crap. Either way, dust bad. Standard earths atmosphere doesn't incl mites and skin flakes parasailing their asses up peoples' noses

[full fossil]

What

[steep girder]

Apparently the largest portion of that dust you see accumulating on boxes in your room is skin flakes lol

[wise geode]

*tasty skin flakes

[steep girder]

Idk I chewed my skin and nails as a kid. It was indeed tasty'

But finding your nails tasty could mean just calcium deficiency lol.

It's like autopilot. If that's actually true it's kind of a cool feature lol. Our brain just lowkey tells our nails to go between teeth and chew if there's a shortage of calcium. Idk though you also gotta swallow shards of fingernail

[lucid echo]

That's a myth

[steep girder]

Apparently there's some correlation. Idk if it's confirmed. I mean it would be kind of weird when I think about it

[grizzled saffron]

Where can u ask for help with online security problems?

[steep girder]

Online

[lucid echo]

Make a post in #1027757333117415424

[steep girder]

I mean most serious PC security problems are online. The best is to have mobo with no radio. Unplug ethernet cable and any other devices connected to network somehow. Boom. No more intruders

[lucid echo]

Pretty certain they mean security issues with an account online, not their computer

[steep girder]

Air gap is the oldest most effective firewall to this day. Drops all packets, frames and even all of layer 1

[lucid echo]

@steep girder I have a question for you

[steep girder]

Even still, nowadays online account issues can lead to login to PC because Windows 10 (tm) now allows ensures that your credentials are live id

Then you circumvent it, create oldschool local account but still people can migrate their 'roaming profile' onto your OS. Nice 👍

[steep girder]

I may or may not have an answer (99% I don't or the answer is wrong)

[lucid echo]

You accidentally already answered it, carry on

[steep girder]

Oh..

[grizzled saffron]

Bruh it wont let me send the post

[steep girder]

What even is the aforementioned online security problem?

[grizzled saffron]

Some dude is logging into my accounts all the time somehow even with complex passwords

Not everyday but like every month

[lucid echo]

What accounts

You should really make a #1027757333117415424 post about this

[grizzled saffron]

It wont let me post it i keep pressing the button nothing happens

[grizzled saffron]

Spotify discord ebay microsoft everything i have

[steep girder]

Ok. Do they all have one common e-mail tied to them?

[grizzled saffron]

I got 2 emails and both are targeted

[steep girder]

Ok so secure the e-mails before anything

[grizzled saffron]

Alr did that

This is going on since like 2020

[steep girder]

Change their passwords, security questions, any other e-mails or whichever recovery methods.

[steep girder]

Tbh might serve in your favor. You have the element of surprise rn