public-chat

[fluid ridge]

the LTT logo is really ugly

[rugged bridge]

nah it stops when i have games open

[fluid ridge]

i hate how the lines dont connect in the logo

[rugged bridge]

and when a window is maximised it stops as well

[manic torrent]

Dude. Turn off desktop icons, what is wrong with you.

[rugged bridge]

adhd

[halcyon lagoon]

You would hate my desktop

[tiny saffron]

Same for mine

[fluid ridge]

you guys need to make desktop icon folders

[manic torrent]

No, there is zero need for desktop icons in 2023

[rugged bridge]

my latop is no better lmao

[tiny saffron]

My desktop is more crowded than New York City

[rugged bridge]

true, tho i still use them occasionally

[fluid ridge]

IDK, it saves one or two clicks depending on what you open

[manic torrent]

Use apps all the time? Pin it.

[fluid ridge]

some of my apps i exclusively open through my desktop icons

[manic torrent]

Clicks? Do you not have a keyboard

[fluid ridge]

i do but i use my mouse to open apps on boot

[halcyon lagoon]

I have active projects and server files on my desktop that I work on

[tardy terrace]

I enjoy a healthy mix of start menu, icons, and cli

[manic torrent]

Oh you can use them, but there are better ways

[tiny saffron]

I hate I have to navigate through the folders to access games

[rugged bridge]

looks kinda weird not having them lol

[rugged bridge]

yea ik

[manic torrent]

Wtf folders? Smash start and type the name

[tiny saffron]

Bro I barely use that feature

And god forbid me to remember the games' name

[manic torrent]

Yeah... It's about 50000x faster

.... I.. wow. Maybe you need more help than I can give.

[rugged bridge]

yea this is one reason i still have them on

[tiny saffron]

Yep, you will find me banging me head to remember what was I trying to do

[rugged bridge]

some games just dont appear in start so the next easiest way is to open (in that case) epic games launcher which takes years to load sometimes then laucnh it from there

[halcyon lagoon]

Windows search sucks ass

[manic torrent]

... wtf?

Yeah epic games launcher can take a while to load

[rugged bridge]

most annoying part is it will start trying to download updates before the fricking gui has loaded

so the gui takes for ever to load causing the updates are using all the bandwidth

[full fossil]

how do you do that?

[manic torrent]

I mean, I have epic and gog and steam running all the time

[fluid ridge]

it never occured to me how bad windows 10 search looked and functioned until i moved onto windows 11

[rugged bridge]

set it to pause when a window is maximised or fullscreen
there is also an option to manually add .exe and you can do certain things when it detects that exe running

[manic torrent]

Oh @rugged bridge are you using win10

[fluid ridge]

you can do a super minimal taskbar because the windows button doubles as a search button too, removing the need for a search button

[rugged bridge]

yes

[full fossil]

Ahh thanks

[manic torrent]

Because yeah win10 is balls for search

[halcyon lagoon]

I keep most of my app not to start on computer start up so I can have the speed

[manic torrent]

I just got a good computer

[rugged bridge]

ik
i know a way i could get it to work

[tiny saffron]

Mine is also win 10

[manic torrent]

I mean... I really don't ever use the start button. I just hit windows and type stuff

[rugged bridge]

there fixed

[fluid ridge]

that works too

ive never used my windows key for anything besides windows + r or windows + x

[manic torrent]

If only there was an easy way to upgrade to win11 and it was free

[rugged bridge]

yea
if only..

[tiny saffron]

I know it's free but hate the change

[fluid ridge]

the change is a significant upgrade imo

[rugged bridge]

i did this by opening C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and then pasting the fortnite shortcut from the desktop in that folder

[manic torrent]

I mean, I change my setup constantly so eh. My background changes randomly every hour.

[tiny saffron]

Gonna hold onto the fort until the last security update

[manic torrent]

I have had probably 10-15 different screen configs over the last 3 years

[tiny saffron]

Part of me is due to I really used to old win XP style of function

[fluid ridge]

besides hating the change, there's no reason not to upgrade to windows 11 - you get new features, new functionality, better visuals, more continuity, better performance, more support as windows 10 eventually dies out, etc.

[halcyon lagoon]

So do I I just don't want things to start up when I turn on my computer

[fluid ridge]

there is a major reason not to upgrade to windows 11 if your hardware does not support it

i forgot that major major caveat

[tiny saffron]

Also as a gamer I don't really care for the windows features as long it can run my games

[fluid ridge]

windows 11 runs your games faster

[rugged bridge]

im planning to upgrade my gaming pc to windows 11 by the end of this year

[fluid ridge]

i forgot why but it does, something about direct RAM to CPU or something

[tiny saffron]

Now you piqued my interest

[fluid ridge]

"DirectStorage" is what they call it

[manic torrent]

You don't use your computer for anything else

[tiny saffron]

Oh the direct X storage

[tiny saffron]

Maybe also using my computer to show me how little social interaction I get

[abstract robin]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BN234QRZ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 power supply has 28 pins for motherboard, but motherboard uses 24. is it just a 24+4 connector

[tiny saffron]

Jokes aside, I'm planning to get another actual desktop to replace my current laptop. I think I might wanna try to be hackerman and use linux on my laptop

[vapid smelt]

pretty sure its for the extra cpu power connector

[abstract robin]

nope, it has 4 pcie/CPU

[fluid ridge]

MSI's logo is really sick

[halcyon lagoon]

That's the eps power connector for the cpu

[vapid smelt]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328043-28pin-mobo-connector/

[abstract robin]

yea but is the cable going from 28 in psu to 24 mobo. or is it actually 28 to 28 and 4 pins are just left unplugged

[halcyon lagoon]

Just plug it in how it should be, don't leave any part of the cable unplugged

[tardy terrace]

ATX standard is 24 pin, there is no ATX standard for psu-side connections. It could be extra grounds specific for sense pins, or a beefed up 12/5/3.3v. Look where the extra cables are going to the board-side connector, if they're doubled up, it's extra power.

[abstract robin]

also, can a mobo with 2 cpu connectors work with just one

[halcyon lagoon]

Use both

[vapid smelt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/76122a/help_28_pin_psu_into_24_pin_motherboard_what_do_i/ the mbo side of the wire will be 24pins

[abstract robin]

just to see if the mobo works, not as a long term

[halcyon lagoon]

The CPU is drawing more power than normal so you need to use both EPS connectors do not leave one of them off or you will not get a stable boot

[abstract robin]

doesnt need to be stable tho, im just holding on to parts for someone and i just so happen to have compatible parts with the mobo. want to make sure it works, but dont have 2 CPU connectors

[halcyon lagoon]

You need to use both EPS connectors. Motherboards nowadays have to eps connectors so you need to use them. It is for stability and overclocking and a CPUs draw more power because they are at a higher wattage and a higher core count and clock speed

[abstract robin]

so using both is required. not advised

[halcyon lagoon]

If you don't plug in both and then you come here and ask him why it doesn't work look at that message again

[manic torrent]

..... This is absolutely incorrect

[abstract robin]

yay

[manic torrent]

I mean, it's right about the why, but not about the need.

[abstract robin]

even better yay

i just need to make it into bios to make sure it works

[vapid smelt]

Elon is a failure

[abstract robin]

skill issue

[halcyon lagoon]

I always say just plug every power cord in that you need and if the motherboard requires two EPS connectors plug them in.

[thick minnow]

chatgpt is confused

[vapid smelt]

failing at being a good father and husband but also he got beat by a frenchy

[full fossil]

wheres the monitor channel

theres a keyboard but no other peripherals

[rugged bridge]

what was the question you asked, ill compare to bing gpt

[vapid smelt]

under

[full fossil]

audio tech?

[vapid smelt]

we dont have one i just wanted you to say under where

[full fossil]

damn, you wouldve had me

where can I talk about monitors for a quick sec

[pale bloom]

who the hell is that

[rugged bridge]

youtube thumbnails are so out of pocket

[pale bloom]

#build-a-pc

[timid meadow]

Would the confusion come from the general "standard" of women taking the mans last name? So it would be "thinking" her name is Ho based on her public appearance, but should be sebastian based on what it was trained on? Its initial answer is the first thought, then are you sure makes it think harder

I hate to humanize the ai but people do it all the time. Everyone is sure of everything until they add other aspects of a situation to that thought process

[rugged bridge]

my dog

[manic torrent]

AI amplifies existing issues and bias.

[timid meadow]

Exactly. It can only know what its trained on (right now)

[nova needle]

Even then it makes mistakes.

[wary summit]

Why amd > intel

[vapid smelt]

our power is like 9 cents

[wary summit]

what is zen3+

cuz its no where near efficient

[nova needle]

Now imagine work from home

[wary summit]

now imagine running them as minecraft or web servers

[timid meadow]

Okay so this one may be a bit too advanced for this chat, hell its too advanced for me but im curious. Does the host of an ai bot matter? Would chatgpt running and trained on my home server be more prone to error then hosting it on something like a supercomputer? Or would it just be slower?

[nova needle]

Idk

[plush rivet]

its dependent on what your source of the information is

if your running it off your home for example, your gonna have to train the A.I yourself.

[nova needle]

All I know is that it told me that the PCIe slot can provide 75W over the 12v rail, which is false

[timid meadow]

In this theoretical scenario the training is as close as possible. Same dataset. Like can the ai think better with more resources or just faster?

[plush rivet]

more resources= better accuarcy. speed is just how fast it can receive and input that data which is based on outside factors

all you should care about is how much the A.I knows

and how it translates that data into something human like, like how chat is able to talk to you

[timid meadow]

Except if thats true then you should definitely be worried about the host because something on a lower end host, or one with more traffic and consumption, would therefore be less accurate and give a different answer would it not?

I could just ask bing but i feel like asking a bot about a bot wont get me the answers i want haha

[plush rivet]

i mean..... thats tricky because yes it CAN run into errors, but thats honestly just bugs. The a.i needs to be trained to know when it makes a mistake. Like for example how chat will completely stop generating a response if a error occurs.

its really a factor of how well the A.I handles data and how much your giving it

and training A.I is way out of my scope of knowledge

[timid meadow]

Your definitely a help. That why i prefaced it with just asking for the sake of curiosity. Youve at least given me a bit more i can take to google or whatever if i wanna hyperfocus on it

[plush rivet]

A.I is simply scripts, however much data you give it and however much you train it it will go beyond the moon

but finding an A.I to train the A.I is the tricky part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9OHn5ZF4Uo this video does a fantastic job explaining it

[timid meadow]

From what your telling me the issues im thinking of are issues. But there are currently lots of other factors before that becomes a major worry

[plush rivet]

the biggest issue chat originally had was bandwidth, WAYYY to many people were wanting to use the bot that there wasent enough bandwidth for it and hence the website crashed lol

[vapid smelt]

i have more mesages then he whole VR chat

[near nymph]

This is kinda cool

[fluid ridge]

didnt you get banned once too

[vapid smelt]

yup

[timid meadow]

I would love to see a collab or something with open ai where they host a dev build of the current live chat gpt on say, 3 different systems (the middle system being its current host) to see if the response or its thought process changes

[plush rivet]

mircosoft has already announced it will be used in windows, which will allow it to use your OS, which is massive

all it needs is access to the web and its pretty much over

[timid meadow]

Binggpt is already in windows

[plush rivet]

integrated?

[timid meadow]

I believe so. I dont have it on my system because internet search disabled but when i played around on a laptop clean install i got a bing pop up with no mention of cortana

[plush rivet]

damn i had no clue

[timid meadow]

Havent actually used it yet though. Could be slow rollout

Slow rollout confirmed. Not seeing much about it but windows central article briefly talking about it in 11 a month ago

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/no-microsoft-did-not-remove-bing-chatgpt-from-the-windows-11-taskbar-though-it-probably-should

Just rename BingGpt to Cortana 2.0 then in 6 months slowly drop the 2.0 from all marketing and make it the new cortana

[fluid ridge]

binggpt is hilarious because not only do you fork your data over to a non profit turned giant evil ai tech corporation but you fork your data over to microsoft at the same time

double whammy

[timid meadow]

Oh well at this point. I already use windows without major debloat tools and pay them for an xbox. Sometimes people shoot themselves in the foot with the "my data" stuff. Yes its important, but the tiny things you can do doesnt stop them from buying it from the ones you do give it to

[fluid ridge]

true

[manic torrent]

it corrected itself when you interrogate it more

[nova needle]

Shouldnt need to

[wispy marsh]

No, he's right. The pcie slot doesn't draw power and it definitely didn't cause OCP to trigger due to a design flaw in my power supply, which I have been troubleshooting for over half a year

[timid meadow]

Unless like i was discussing earlier, better hardware on its host would have given you a more accurate answer. If theres any scenario ever where that can happen it could have seen that one random thing first and ran with it

[manic torrent]

yeah but honestly if you're relying on GPT to have correct answers about stuff, jokes on you. Think of it like a clever idiot - really good at learning, but not able to make judgements, so highly susceptible to groupthink style misinformation

int: 20 wis: 2

[wispy marsh]

GPT can't pick up some stuff

[manic torrent]

eyyyyyy

[nova needle]

DW im smort not to

[manic torrent]

but... most people ALSO lack the ability to do analysis like that, so here we are.

it's just that it's not typically coupled with the ability to speak confidently and fluently on the subject.

[wispy marsh]

I can confidently and fluently speak on my own confirmation biases

I am also confidently and fluently speaking about my own confirmation biases

[manic torrent]

What I'm saying is: Jordan Peterson is an outliar 😉

[wary summit]

running F1 22 for a whole year will cost you 90$ on a 7800X3D
and it'll cost

[manic torrent]

I can confidently and fluently speak with my own confirmation biases

[full fossil]

I need Linus's personal email for the best idea ever:
The ultimate 4channer pc.

plaster it with Ioli and mlp stickers
watercool it with diluted cumlube
make the water reservoir a mason jar with a rainbow dash figureine inside
include at least 64 TB of storage for "anime"
anyone?

[manic torrent]

you're so original and edgy

[full fossil]

Wait that implies that's not original. Has someone really already suggested that

ffs

[timid meadow]

So...we arent all using the same model at any given time? Couldn't that be an issue? Or am i misunderstanding this

[manic torrent]

... it's amazingly reductive and obvious

[manic torrent]

what do you mean "an issue"

[timid meadow]

In terms of accuracy and general responses

[manic torrent]

I mean, you could make that some dumbass request 10 years ago, probably more

[timid meadow]

Idk maybe im hyperfocusing on nothing

[manic torrent]

meh. not significantly. I mean on specific things? sure. in general? nah.

[timid meadow]

It just seems to me like something that would be more centralized i guess? For the sake of training itself and general ai industry movement even. Seems like everyone doing their own thing and splitting it up so much is counter productive.

The more i think about it the more it makes sense i guess in terms of like just how capitalism works in general but still.

[manic torrent]

but should one company have control of it?

[nova needle]

Yes, nvidia

[timid meadow]

Why cant colleges have control over it? Weve got organizations to control kicking a ball why cant we have a org of colleges moving ai forward?

[manic torrent]

ehhhh, this is super hypothetical, we're fucked anyway, enjoy yourself while youc an

[covert sedge]

No idea

I'm not a super big tec guy xd

[timid meadow]

If gpuz running on your system says no then no

[vapid smelt]

660ti is e waste it supports getting scraped

[wispy marsh]

Poverty

[vapid smelt]

a r3 2200g has a faster apu

[nova needle]

Agony

[nova needle]

Way to go

[timid meadow]

You can sell that 660ti and if its in good condition get a 2200g for the same as what you sold it for. If youve got a compatible mobo

[nova needle]

If u want lower End stuff, go am4

[timid meadow]

Am4 is great for used for another few years

[wispy drum]

Can anyone how to speed up my hp mini

[timid meadow]

Specs?

[nova needle]

Why?

[vapid smelt]

by replacing it

[wispy drum]

2gb ram. 160gb storage. Hp mini

[wispy marsh]

impoverished
goes intel to pay more for electricity

[timid meadow]

First step go to at least 2x2 ram, preferably 2x4. And up the storage to a 500gb ssd

[nova needle]

+1

[wispy drum]

It’s intel atom

[wispy marsh]

I thought kindergarten would've taught you math and basic currencies

[wispy drum]

Max ram is 2gb

[timid meadow]

Got a link to the physical system? Ill give the manual a look for ya if you want

[nova needle]

7800x3d draws 45

[wispy drum]

Ok

[wispy marsh]

You got any more of that umm, confirmation bias?

[nova needle]

About the worst thing you can do

[wispy marsh]

Well, if you manually configure power limits

[nova needle]

45. More if you use Blender and such

Gaming, it goes as low as 39

GPU limit, so 40w

Congrats

So is your 660 Ti

Maybe

5700G still a better buy than the 11400F

Or 5600G

[wispy marsh]

like intel because of their way of doing things
Nailed the confirmation bias

[nova needle]

Or 4600G and so on

[timid meadow]

Thats because its a laptop. Laptop gpus and dedicated are generations apart

[full fossil]

life is not just about pc's :V

[nova needle]

Stop making sense damn you

[wispy marsh]

All you want is intel-branded earplugs

Why don't you donate to UserBenchmark?

[nova needle]

Lmaoooo

[wispy marsh]

They have really good reviews on intel processors

[nova needle]

Muserbarkmench

[wispy marsh]

In fact, if you are only looking at intel processors, you should only use userbenchmark

[nova needle]

They are still talking about AMD for half the review on an Intel product

[wispy marsh]

孙子兵法

[nova needle]

Denke ich auch

I can talk in multiple languages too

Evidently

[cobalt sluice]

lol

[manic torrent]

skill issue

[thorny axle]

If you want to buy Intel and not be judged, meteor lake sounds like it’ll be more of a win than the more current generations

[wispy marsh]

If you want to buy Intel and not be judged, meteor lake sounds like it’ll be more of a win than the more current generations don't tell anyone about it

FTFY

[thorny axle]

You should know that that difference is negligible unless you’re literally running your PC all the time

[thorny axle]

AMD fanboys exist Ig

[weary nebula]

I NEED HELP

[manic torrent]

.... it absolutely is not

[weary nebula]

i need help to recovery data from the start screen omg im dumb

[manic torrent]

you can get very good performance out of AMD under 100W

intel you can easily consume over 200W.

so it's not a small margin.

[thorny axle]

Are you running your CPU at 100% 24/7

Most likely not, so arguably idle wattages are arguably more relevant to look at

[manic torrent]

....

[thorny axle]

Intel is probably higher, so what are the wattages for that

[timid meadow]

Dont we all?

[manic torrent]

they literally covered this in the 7800X3D review.

[weary nebula]

I deleted my pc and i had some really important data on the start screen what do i do

[manic torrent]

cry

[weary nebula]

noooooooooooooooooo

and it didnt even work

[weary nebula]

i broke pc and didnt even get anytihng out of it

wasted ryzen 5 1600 and msi x570

[wispy marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931960199911206945/1093412302998474792/7800X3D.jpg

[thorny axle]

So you save $20 per year

With seriously the most expensive electricity I have ever seen

[manic torrent]

and far more if you live somewhere you need aircon.

[weary nebula]

lol in my country electricity is almost free xd

[thorny axle]

That’s still seriously expensive electricity

[weary nebula]

same with petrol

[manic torrent]

and we don't all live in america where they grind up dead babies to make electricity because it's cheaper

[thorny axle]

In the USA it’s like $0.13, in Europe like double that

[thorny axle]

We don’t all live in Europe either, clearly

Who knew

That is seriously stupidly spectacularly expensive electricity

[manic torrent]

a) brexit

[weary nebula]

does anyone know

[manic torrent]

b) american prices for many things are lower than they should be due to awesome capitalism

[weary nebula]

any cheap software to fix deleted notepad file

[manic torrent]

www.cheapsoftwaretofixdeletednotpadfiles.com

[weary nebula]

wait is that real

[thorny axle]

So, in the European county with apparently THE MOST EXPENSIVE electricity, you save $20/year

With what I would consider a seriously large amount of CPU usage to assume

[weary nebula]

https://4ddig.tenorshare.com/buy-4ddig-partition-manager.html

does this work for that?

[robust fjord]

sell it and get a 750ti?

[manic torrent]

it's still a significant, material difference. It affects how much cooling you need as well.

[nova needle]

Just no

[thorny axle]

Search for yourself

That’s literally worst case scenario

[thorny axle]

There’s a material difference in the price of the chips as well last I checked

[nova needle]

If 26 cents is European AVG, then I am Kaiser of Germany

[thorny axle]

26 cents is about 2 times $0.13 in case you haven’t noticed

[manic torrent]

For the prices adjusted for inflation, the total price for household consumers, i.e. including all taxes, was €0.2525 per kWh in the first half of 2022

so, USD 0.27

[thorny axle]

Which is about 2 times $0.13

Amazing

[manic torrent]

although many people pay more - and some pay as little as the US (or less)

[thorny axle]

Your source assumes 50% more than that

So the savings should be about 50% more than expected

[manic torrent]

there is no "savings"

[thorny axle]

So more typically, you should only save about $10 over 5 years

[thorny axle]

Literally saving money

[manic torrent]

negligible.

[thorny axle]

I would consider $10 over 5 years negligible, yes

[manic torrent]

... $10 per year

[thorny axle]

This says 5 year cost

This cost per kW makes the actual difference 50% greater than average

This says the difference is $110

So over 5 years saving 10.2 per year, sure

[manic torrent]

yes.

[thorny axle]

Alright, fair enough

[manic torrent]

lets call it $1 a month

[vapid smelt]

imagine paying 42 cents per Kwh

[manic torrent]

That's enough for some sweet sweet beans from ASDA

[thorny axle]

But I still would say that’s negligible, $50 is still less than the difference between the two chips last I checked

[thorny axle]

It’s like getting a 10 cent raise

[manic torrent]

My point was that the power is a factor over and above the pure direct budgetary impact

[thorny axle]

Sure, cool, don’t spend it all in one place

[manic torrent]

10 cent what raise?

[thorny axle]

Generally when people say they got a raise, they mean their salary is now higher than before

[manic torrent]

yes, and generally you get money for time.

[thorny axle]

When they say 10 cent, that’s very low

[manic torrent]

when you say 10 cents, 10 cents per what

[thorny axle]

…

[manic torrent]

because 10 cents per hour is a fucking lot more than $1/month

[thorny axle]

Have you never heard people talk

Everyone means per hour, also the value is not the point

[elfin jetty]

sup yall

[thorny axle]

Greetings

[manic torrent]

they really don't.

[thorny axle]

You live in a weird place

[manic torrent]

generally when I am talking to people we talk about annual income

[elfin jetty]

[thorny axle]

Most people I know are paid per the hour, so a $0.10 raise implies per hour

[manic torrent]

it's only if you are doing casual work or poor that you talk in per hour

[thorny axle]

They change your hourly pay, not your yearly pay

[weary nebula]

does anyone know how to bypass a country ban on a website

[elfin jetty]

[vapid smelt]

move to a better country

[thorny axle]

Idk VPN

[vapid smelt]

r7 5700g=750ti

[weary nebula]

im trying to buy a software but

"The current country Venezuela is not in the area of service, you can't proceed"

[wary summit]

Anyway to reduce my laptop TDP to 10w?

[weary nebula]

Do you know how to do that?

[thorny axle]

You live somewhere weird then, like Mars

[thorny axle]

You download it and press the run button

[manic torrent]

or perhaps somewhere where workers have rights and such

[wary summit]

yea

I'm literally in china rn so... i would know how to

[weary nebula]

im trying to buy 4DDiG Partition Manager

[vapid smelt]

aka in hell

[thorny axle]

Seriously weird place

[manic torrent]

I mean it's also privelege - I'm generally talking to other professionals about money

When I was contracting, I had a day rate.

[thorny axle]

If you get a raise, you generally get it in terms of hourly compensation

[weary nebula]

Guys im sad i need this notepad back I can pay anyone who can help me

even if we don't get the file back because im so sad i did so much work

[thorny axle]

Generally speaking

[robust fjord]

nope

[weary nebula]

for nothing

[robust fjord]

750ti is still supported, 660ti isnt @full fossil

[manic torrent]

I mean... your salary is expressed as an annual package. why would a raise be hourly, it makes no sense.

[amber cairn]

You do, I don't. Fixed monthly with other perks but you need to get to a certain level within organizations to get that.

[thorny axle]

Things are different there, most places I know of pay by the hour

[vapid smelt]

steam deck > 660ti

[robust fjord]

its better than unsupported though, but at 750ti's price you add slightly more and you get a RX 580

[manic torrent]

as I said - I think it's about the type of job as well

[thorny axle]

Of course, each job is paid a bit different

[vapid smelt]

$400 is cheap as fuck for a gaming laptop

[manic torrent]

hahahahahah.

[robust fjord]

what is your cpu?

[manic torrent]

also ewaste

[weary nebula]

does anyone know a software to recall a notepad file for under $200

its very important file and its not in my documents on my start screen or anything

[manic torrent]

your data is gone. RIP

[weary nebula]

about 70 fortnite accounts and their emails

in a notepad file

[random jolt]

why would u keep that in a txt file

[weary nebula]

where else do i remember

[random jolt]

like pw managers would be so much better

[thorny axle]

Obviously a .exe file

[weary nebula]

and some are rare accounts and i dont have email access only in that document i had it

[manic torrent]

and you didn't bother storing it in the cloud

[random jolt]

and why do u have like 50 fortnite accounts

[amber cairn]

why not use bitwarden for that lmao

[manic torrent]

because why would you need a backup

[wispy marsh]

$200
not storing & synchronizing it in multiple locations

[manic torrent]

you make some very very poor decisions.

[weary nebula]

secondary and bought accs and grinded accounts

[wispy marsh]

At this point it's hindsight

[random jolt]

dang

could def recommend some grass at this point

[weary nebula]

i got hwid banned so i spent a lot of money and time

to buy a new X570 ACE motherboard and a ryzen 5 1600 to update bios

which i didnt even need to do it was already updated and i sat it up but it was laggy as hell for some reason so i deleted windows 11 and lost my notepad file

[random jolt]

idk if fortnite addiction is something that this discord can help with

[robust fjord]

go core2quad

[weary nebula]

deleted windows after buying a new motherboard because of hwid ban

[amber cairn]

Lmao

[vapid smelt]

why such a trash cpu

[weary nebula]

i thought to update bios but i didnt need to

[amber cairn]

wait you got a ryzen 1600 in the year of our lord 2023?

[weary nebula]

yes

[manic torrent]

to update bios only

but.... he didn't even check first.

[weary nebula]

i can sell it again probably

[weary nebula]

ik it was stupid

[amber cairn]

well just a 50-60% loss

[vapid smelt]

usb flash bios no cpu needed

[weary nebula]

that never works for me

[robust fjord]

expensive for a core2 tbh

[weary nebula]

i wanted to be safe

im so stressed i lost these accounts

I lost all my work on changing motherboard today

[manic torrent]

ehhh, they are getting less common

[weary nebula]

I lost my accounts so i can't play anyway even though im not hwid banned now

[manic torrent]

I literally threw my core2q in the garbage

[amber cairn]

I mean, you reinstalled the machine without backing up your important files what did you expect

[manic torrent]

.... years ago

[weary nebula]

I forgot the files

im so sad

im going into depression now not even joking

dont know if i should buy data recovery software or just a new fortnite acc from g2g

[manic torrent]

maybe you should start making some different life decisions

[weary nebula]

well blame me for trying to fix fortnite

[thorny axle]

You’re going to give people here depression for the thought of you having depression over Fortnite accounts

[wary summit]

how do I reduce my laptop wattage

[weary nebula]

enable power saver

[wary summit]

or just undervolt my CPU

[random jolt]

yeah fixing fortnite is one thing, 50 fortnite accounts is something else

[wary summit]

not enough

[wary summit]

I have 25+ Valorant accounts

[weary nebula]

i had 3

and my friends, and i got all the val accs perma'd XDDD

[wary summit]

same

[weary nebula]

valorant is not that important anyway

[robust fjord]

still should be 10 bucks

[wary summit]

how do I disable 4 cores on my CPU to save power

[robust fjord]

4 bucks actually for c2q 6600

9400?

[wary summit]

bro they sell Viagra in china

[full fossil]

Guys has anyone ever paided a customs fee

[wary summit]

cuz ya gotta OC them bananas 🍌 💀💀

[full fossil]

Since i won a giveaway and idk if i have to pay a fee

Im from canada there from the uk

[wary summit]

1. make sure it's not a scam

2. They should pay the shipping and Import/custom fee

[full fossil]

Its a mousepad company its legit

[full fossil]

How? Like paypal me money?

[wary summit]

3. If they had stated only UK participant's you'll have to pay

[wary summit]

no they pay it when they ship?

[full fossil]

Thats possible?

[wary summit]

???

[full fossil]

I thought when it goes to canada i have to pay a fee

[wary summit]

How it works in Australia?

wtf is Canada doing also just Google it

[full fossil]

So its say if its under 20 bucks no fee

If its a gift and its 60 dollars or under its no fee

So idk how much the mousepad cost but do i ask them to add a happy birthday dinglefart as a gift?

[robust fjord]

lga775 xeon? maybe

[wary summit]

@full fossil what you thinking of getting?

[full fossil]

I had a dream where someone on this server was building a network attached storage server and they were using 4x 12tb hard drives at 5400rpm and I went to their house and began screaming at them for forgetting the 32gb nvme boot drive 😂

[wary summit]

wtf

wdym Your phone is rendering what frames

ok... and your point is?

I have 3 phones that support RT? and what do you want to say?

[full fossil]

Jeez lol

[tardy terrace]

hee hoo funny number hour

[full fossil]

Juice

[desert dagger]

:(

[full fossil]

[full fossil]

I've been awake long enough to witness 6:09

What can £1.50 buy you in 2023... nothing!

Poof like magic

[vapid smelt]

1 thing from the dollar store

[full fossil]

Heh, poundlland the only last remaining pound store has increased all their prices to above £2

Inflation

[vapid smelt]

its $1.25 now at the dollar store

[full fossil]

I love how linus mentions uk energy prices now

[thorny axle]

The dollar-and-a-pinch store

[full fossil]

I can buy a box of cookies for 65c in Home bargins lol

Eh

Cookies are overrated

[calm kestrel]

Howdy y’all

[full fossil]

People say I sound Canadian

[calm kestrel]

Canadian? Where 0.o

[vapid smelt]

thats a insult

[thorny axle]

Your pfp looks American

[full fossil]

Someone help me, I'm british with parents of Lithuanian desent. I'm not Canadian

[thorny axle]

Like the redneck Virginia license plate

[full fossil]

My pfp is parody lol

[calm kestrel]

If you put Texas and Florida together you get my province of Canada

[thorny axle]

Is it of the license plate?

[full fossil]

Should I change it to this permanently? I can change the no to neit

[thorny axle]

Yeah, that

[thorny axle]

It’s what the stereotypical Americans in Virginia have

[full fossil]

Commie snake. I've made both sides happy

[full fossil]

Hello!

[full fossil]

My bones keep cackling

Oh no mods are online

Anyway

[calm kestrel]

Oop

[full fossil]

My hips keep popping

[desert dagger]

aint easy getting older

[wary summit]

can a real estate company repair my property without my consent.

[full fossil]

Did they charge you

[wary summit]

about to

[full fossil]

Is it in their contract

[wary summit]

we didn't give the go ahead

[full fossil]

That they can preform repairs

[wary summit]

they emailed us, then asked us to confirm, we didn't and they went ahead

[full fossil]

No here is the issue. Did you read the contract?

[wary summit]

mum's house, but her english is ~~~

[full fossil]

Which one performs better?

[wary summit]

5600 immo just better

[vapid smelt]

5600

[wary summit]

just better Software and like experience

[vapid smelt]

12400=5600

[wary summit]

even if you got like what +5% perf, amd is just better lol Price/Perf + low wattage

[full fossil]

If you have evidence of them doing the repairs without consent and the contract doesn’t disclose that they can do repairs without consent then contact a lawyer if the amount is substantial

If they are doing scummy things like this then imagine what they are doing what you can’t see

[wary summit]

also, it there was already an attempted reparir ($350) and then this second $250 the 250 they asked we said no

[full fossil]

Yeah no

Contact a lawyer and see what you can work out

[wary summit]

i mean its onlt $250

[full fossil]

Doesn’t matter

[wary summit]

but its like a weeks rent lol

[calm kestrel]

I’ve personally been super happy with my 12600k

[full fossil]

You can get a settlement

Imagine if the lawyer finds out they have been doing this to multiple people

You could start a class action

[vapid smelt]

he is in china

[full fossil]

Never mind

Your social credit will plummet if you fight against any corruption

The company is probably involved in the state

No reason to retaliate

If it were on a credit card I would say make a charge back

But you probably use we chat or something

[wary summit]

@full fossil I'm in china but the property is in Australia

[full fossil]

Its owned by the state

[wary summit]

bank

[full fossil]

All propery is owned by the government in china

[wary summit]

I wouldn't consider a slightly leaking cistern an URGENT repair

[wary summit]

sorry meant Australia

[full fossil]

Bruh

Had me worried

In china the property is rented out from the government

[manic torrent]

water leak is an urgent repair

what you consider urgent is not relevant 🙂

[full fossil]

Average Australian take

[wary summit]

what, it's the toilet leaking into the bowl

[manic torrent]

oh... yeah that's not really world ending

[wary summit]

who the fuck calls that urgent

[full fossil]

If its in Australia then I’m not really into Australian laws

[wary summit]

so can they repair it without our consent

[manic torrent]

in any case, you almost certainly authorised them to make decisions about repairs on your behalf, standard rental procedure

[full fossil]

All I know is that gambling and adult content is extremely restricted

[manic torrent]

uhhhhhh

[wary summit]

not in our contract

[full fossil]

And you have some of the most corrupt individuals in parliament

[wary summit]

yea gambling is illegal in china, Viagra is sold cheaply in groceries

[manic torrent]

ehhh, yes and no, but .. yeah.

[full fossil]

Im talking about Australia

[vapid smelt]

dude viagra is sold everywhere

[manic torrent]

I mean, nobody can beat a man who was recently indicted, but yeah we have some pretty good ones

[wary summit]

Urgent repairs
Section 3(1) of the Act defines urgent repairs. Refer to the
Consumer Affairs Victoria website for the full list of urgent repairs
and for more information, visit consumer.vic.gov.au/urgentrepairs.
Urgent repairs include failure or breakdown of any essential service
or appliance provided for hot water, cooking, heating or laundering
supplied by the rental provider.
The rental provider must carry out urgent repairs after being
notified. A renter may arrange for urgent repairs to be done if the
renter has taken reasonable steps to arrange for the rental provider
to immediately do the repairs and the rental provider has not carried
out the repairs.
If the renter has arranged for urgent repairs, the renter may be
reimbursed directly by the rental provider for the reasonable cost of
repairs up to $2500.
The renter may apply to VCAT for an order requiring the rental
provider to carry out urgent repairs if—
(a) the renter cannot meet the cost of the repairs; or
(b) the cost of repairs is more than $2500; or
(c) the rental provider refuses to pay the cost of repairs if it is
carried out by the renter.

wrong reply but yea

[manic torrent]

yeah that covers the renters rights, not you<->agent

[wary summit]

List of urgent repairs
Urgent repairs must be done immediately because they make the property unsafe or difficult to live in.

Anything on this list is legally defined as an urgent repair:

burst water service
blocked or broken toilet system
serious roof leak
gas leak
dangerous electrical fault
flooding or serious flood damage
serious storm or fire damage
an essential service or appliance for hot water, water, cooking, heating, or laundering is not working
the gas, electricity or water supply is not working
a cooling appliance or service provided by the rental provider is not working
the property does not meet minimum standards
a safety-related device, such as a smoke alarm or pool fence, is not working
an appliance, fitting or fixture that is not working and causes a lot of water to be wasted
any fault or damage in the property that makes it unsafe or insecure, including pests, mould or damp caused by or related to the building structure
a serious problem with a lift or staircase.

[full fossil]

Do you guys have home inspectors there

They inspect properties before they are bought

[manic torrent]

no, we just do a taste test

... what the fuck of course we do.

[full fossil]

I don’t know man

You guys have vehicles with the driver on the wrong side

[manic torrent]

... I don't think you understand how that works

[full fossil]

You guys lick salty paste on toast

And have hopping deer

[tired glade]

Why do you eat unsalted pasta?

[wary summit]

@manic torrent does blocked or broken toilet system include that dribbling into the bowl stuff

[manic torrent]

I wouldn't think so

That said, I don't know how much it's leaking

[wary summit]

we do, they sent a video

[manic torrent]

Or where it is. A constantly going toilet could be crazy making.

[wary summit]

yk the clasical like 1 drop per every few seconds

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/leak-leaks-flex-seal-flex-seal-gif-15158221

[wary summit]

not making noise, just slowly dripping

[strong kettle]

I cant get that

they dont sell em here

its illegal to buy em

[latent obsidian]

Guys

[past egret]

lul

oh man i dont know!

wow!

[rapid stone]

In my country I see only 2 fans even the 360 can you send me a link of it? 😁

Nvrm found the 3 fans in some computer shop here

Btw this cooler will handle the CPU on 4.4ghz?

[pulsar shore]

I have a hot take (I think) that AMDs weird messed up naming scheme actively gets in the way of them becoming more mainstream both graphics cards and cpus

lol

[past egret]

within the filth there is beauty to be found and unintentional comedy to be discovered

[pulsar shore]

anyway my hot take

[past egret]

then a flash, and it was over.

[pulsar shore]

i saw it coming from the moon

[full fossil]

i also have a hot take

[patent fog]

I think LMG needs to do more mean comments / maybe another roast

[pulsar shore]

i cant wait to hear it

[full fossil]

apple not allowing bootloader unlock ect is providing more waste by not allowing old phones to be usable with todays standards and lagging on everything than putting damn chargers in the box

[tardy terrace]

But that's just facts

[pulsar shore]

pretty sure apple makes most of their money from app sales and stuff

[full fossil]

they dont care about the world only their reputation

[patent fog]

Lol, no surprise there. Apple don't care one bit about the waste. They just want to see what can get them the most money

[full fossil]

thankfully xiaomi my phone brand allows unlocking bootloader without voiding warranty thats just amazing

[patent fog]

shrugs

🙂

[full fossil]

like i sent my phone to repair openly saying that i have pixel experience on there

and they willfully fixed it under warranty

[past egret]

using a mac and windows is torturing me

[full fossil]

i used a iphone 7 once was cool untill the charger blew up at night

[patent fog]

Some companies do that, some don't.

[patent fog]

How so?

[past egret]

the ctrl and alt is flipped so when i do design work it really fucks shit up

[full fossil]

mainly xiaomi is that nice regarding about modding phones they know they have more hate for not allowing it

[patent fog]

Um.. get a keyboard?

[full fossil]

have u tried a key mapping tool

anyway shortcuts are easier on windows proove me wrong *desktop^

[patent fog]

Awesome dude. Glad you like your phone

[past egret]

they have a mac keyboard at work, and im not bringing a 3kg keyboard to work

[patent fog]

If you have to say "prove me wrong", I'll be honest, I already see it a battle with no point to it.

[full fossil]

well to ur suprise i dont fight about that stuff

[full fossil]

glad i bought a xiaomi also my phone is so fast like for a 200 dollar budget phone it can run most apps with no lag

[pulsar shore]

I got a redmi personally the last 2 times

good phones

[manic torrent]

That makes no sense whatsoever

[patent fog]

🙂

[past egret]

also i only come to work temporarily so no point

mostly remote

[full fossil]

it would be cool if u knew the context of my life and how i make jokes but i dont blame u

[manic torrent]

I have a Keychron K1 I take to work.‎ 939 g

[patent fog]

Yeah I have heard good things about Xiaomi lol.

[manic torrent]

It probably wouldn't, but I get how you would feel that way

[full fossil]

im not the best arent i?

[pulsar shore]

im 100% sure they make good cheap phones so they can steal my data and spy on me

[manic torrent]

unlike google. or apple. or anyone else.

or eufy.

[full fossil]

everyone spies on you not just xiaomi

[patent fog]

I'm pretty sure all phones are spying on me. I just don't care

[pulsar shore]

or most governments, websites, schools

[past egret]

good to be you, mine is completely aluminium so

[manic torrent]

you misunderstand me, The K1 is exclusively to take to work.

[full fossil]

last time i was in the us i had a school laptop that was filled with spyware im talking webcam access full on teamviewer when teachers feel like it

[pulsar shore]

once again im going to repost my hot take:
AMDs weird messed up naming scheme actively gets in the way of them becoming more mainstream both graphics cards and cpus

[patent fog]

Of course lmao. It's a school laptop meant for school use. You were surprised?

[manic torrent]

meh. I don't think so, but I also don't care.

[full fossil]

yeah but like they dont allow u to take ur own pc in their lil camp also they go trough ur phone when u enter

[pulsar shore]

I bought an AMD cpu for the first time and it was really confusing trying to figure out what i was getting

[tired glade]

So, Corporation doing Corporation thing?

[manic torrent]

probably incase you download a weapon

[manic torrent]

... it's basically the same as intel.

[pulsar shore]

untrue both intel and nvidia have much better naming schemes

[tired glade]

Like 1650?

[pulsar shore]

pentium<i3<i5<i7<i9 and then generation 13xxx-12xxx-11xxx-

[full fossil]

i woke up to my school laptop wiping my whole essay cuz the teacher wanted to upgrade windows but formatted the drive tricke

[manic torrent]

.... which is EXACTLY THE SAME for ryzen.

[patent fog]

It's a school phone. They will only allow you to do what they want you to do on their phone, because it is their phone and not yours.

[tired glade]

Or what was abominable 11gen laptops?

[full fossil]

No im talking about my personal phone

[tired glade]

Is 1080 slower than 1650?

[pulsar shore]

once the last 5 generations were upwards only

980-1080-2080-3080-4080

[tired glade]

There is 3080 with 10 GB and 12

[manic torrent]

.... there are cards OTHER than 80

[pulsar shore]

yes i know im just showcasing the generations

[patent fog]

I thought you said school phone? Or was it school laptop? Either way same concept.

[pulsar shore]

and you can easily tell where the card stands in its own gen

[tired glade]

Interesting what you will say when 5 versions of 4070 arrives?

[manic torrent]

so like... a 6900XT, and a 7900XT. WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS

[full fossil]

i said school laptop also ive never seen a school give out phones

[pulsar shore]

50-60-70-80-90 and then ti

[tired glade]

So,is 6600 faster than 6700?

[manic torrent]

unless it's the 3060 12gb. or the 1060 3gb vs 6gb

[tired glade]

Or is 6700 and 5700 same generation?

[pulsar shore]

or a laptop M model i realise its a little jank BUT its a little jank not a lot of jank

[manic torrent]

Lets not forget they only unlaunched the 4080 12gb after massive complaintts

[pulsar shore]

which is what AMD is

[patent fog]

Ok, well same concept then. If it's a school laptop they will let you do only what they want you to do on it. Simple as that lol.

[manic torrent]

what a great analysis. Compelling and rich.

[tepid bolt]

Nvidia's mobile lineup is super misleading because they all perform differently depending on TDP.

[tired glade]

Are you just hating on AMD?

[pulsar shore]

no my cpu is amd

[tired glade]

There are total 40 different 40-series laptop gpus right now

[full fossil]

yeah but my point is that going thru my personal phone is a invaision of piracy

[manic torrent]

but you're not familiar with the product names, so you had to learn them, but you were already familiar with intels names, so you think AMDs are bad because they are different.

[manic torrent]

how exactly can they possibly 'go through' your phone

[pulsar shore]

im complaining that one of the reasons that they havent gotten bigger in the market is because their naming is worse than the competition

[full fossil]

they check my social media and my downloads ect

[manic torrent]

yeah, except you haven't given any meaningful examples of it being worse.

[tepid bolt]

Have you thought about how maybe people are less familiar with AMD because Nvidia and Intel have more sales?

It's what we call marketshare bias

[manic torrent]

and even if it is, why and how would that impact sales - when most people don't even know what CPU they have.

[tired glade]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/208662/intel-core-i71165g7-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz/specifications.html

Best name for CPU

[patent fog]

Oh everyone can go through your social media, no surprise there. As for the downloads and stuff, did you install and configure BYOD on your phone?

Well their version of BYOD?

[tepid bolt]

They put a fucking letter in there lmfao

[tired glade]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/88759/products-formerly-tiger-lake.html

Why intel has so many similar CPUs on market?

[full fossil]

i dont really know what that means

[pulsar shore]

Nvidia and intel have more sales because even when AMD comes out with something thats better for the price ol uncle bob that knows only a little about computing cant figure it out and they just stick to what they know

[tepid bolt]

Yep, sadly how it goes.

[pulsar shore]

hell thats why i made 3 intel systems before going amd

[tepid bolt]

Most people are tech illiterate

They see Intel they think computer

[tired glade]

Or Nvidia and Intel known for playing dirty

[manic torrent]

You have an extreme case of observation bias, coupled with a lack of life experience.

[pulsar shore]

please explain

[tired glade]

Is Nvidia still holding ban on using top line brand for AMD GPUs?

[tepid bolt]

Yes, that's why you don't see a 7900xtx Strix or 7900xtx suprim

[tired glade]

That will be like 5 gens of GPUs by now

[patent fog]

I am unsure as to how to describe it. But if they are indeed going through your device, then you probably did configure BYOD on your device at which point... well shrugs. There is a reason many people have a work and a personal phone. Once you do BYOD, you kinda give them an all access pass to your phone.

[manic torrent]

You have come to your conclusion based on your direct observations and your own experience, which are a tiny fraction of what goes on in the world. You are giving your experience far more weight than it deserves, because it happened to you.

[pulsar shore]

also im glad to know my take was hot i was worried it was boring

[manic torrent]

And you don't have enough context and life experience to know better

[full fossil]

i never did anything that allowed them to access my phone i just simply went to school with it

[pulsar shore]

so i had experiences and i have had a conclusion based on them.

[patent fog]

Then they couldn't possibly be going through your phone lmao.

[manic torrent]

... byod just means bring your own device. It doesn't imply MDM enrolment

[full fossil]

but security checks my phone?

[manic torrent]

Which is perfectly reasonable if it's not commenting on wider things like ... Why a company sells more/less CPUs

[tired glade]

That textbook meaning for bias

[unkempt widget]

what

[pulsar shore]

ok i can disprove that

[patent fog]

Oh, is that the term I'm looking for? My bad

[pulsar shore]

one sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVrp73b_So I am not the only person with this opinion

[patent fog]

Sorry, I just thought BYOD implied MDM

[manic torrent]

... that's not how this works

[unkempt widget]

what's happening here

[manic torrent]

Not at all - I mean, in a company it usually does, but that's different

[pulsar shore]

if i came to a conclusion based purely on my own experiences then other people wouldnt have the same conclusion based on their own

[summer folio]

LTT = Lukes Tech Tips

[pulsar shore]

that is the difference between an observation and a bias

[unkempt widget]

bro

[fresh ermine]

https://youtu.be/DbDM0Dcg7hg

Does that mean I can fool Roblox to think my 8botdo ultimate controller as a Xbox controller by using steam?

[tired glade]

I guess,they never touched server hardware

[manic torrent]

Finding another person who agrees with you doesn't disprove my point

[pulsar shore]

no but it emphasises mine

[summer folio]

LMG = Lukes Media Group

[manic torrent]

Actually that happens super often.

[median idol]

When Anthony is here it's Linux Tech Tips

[unkempt widget]

what the fuck is boat saying rn

[patent fog]

Lol, either way, I forgot the proper term for it, so I just used BYOD. My bad.

[tired glade]

Justification for his point of view

[pulsar shore]

but telling me that i dont have enough life experience when you dont know ANYTHING about me doesnt disprove mine either

[unkempt widget]

no but like how does what he's doing rn make any sense

[tired glade]

People,this can go very political if you not careful

[pulsar shore]

dont worry im not american so i dont care about politics

[tired glade]

Yes, that's pretty normal for avg person

[summer folio]

BWO = Body Without Organs

[median idol]

Pub chat in its natural habitat I see

[patent fog]

Not sure what to tell you dude. Unless you gave them access they shouldn't be able to do shit on your phone.

[unkempt widget]

ha
that's hilarious

[manic torrent]

On the contrary I know plenty enough to make that conclusion. Because based on dunning-kruger, it's obvious.

[tired glade]

Not popular politics, your biases to understanding problems

[full fossil]

so basically they are doing something illegal?

[tired glade]

Oh,that why they called pubs

[summer folio]

Everything is political.
Stop speaking chat, you're breaking the rulez

[manic torrent]

Techfool is completely misunderstanding you.

[median idol]

Trust me, politics in the Arab world is far worse than in the western world

[pulsar shore]

also if you read my original point i said this is ONE of the reasons that AMD is not gaining more market share not the only driving adoption to a new system is hard and barriers to entry will simply make it harder

[manic torrent]

Also I just had a quick look at that video, and it's basically clickbait that doesn't back up your point about sales.

[patent fog]

Explain

[tired glade]

The best one is still Filipino and Indian politics

[unkempt widget]

it was hilarious, and mentions nothing about sales

[manic torrent]

They are physically going through his phone. With him present, and having unlocked it.

[pulsar shore]

I really dont think you know how the dunning kruger effect works since youre using it on an opinion and not me trying to prove some sort of expertise

[unkempt widget]

it also mentions other brands doing horrible naming schemes

[tired glade]

Tl.dr, person ignore naming for 10-11gen for Intel and complaining about 7040

[manic torrent]

... uhhh my entire point was that you came to an incorrect conclusion based on your lack of expertise.

[pulsar shore]

that they do but the more popular brands dont need to drive adoption

[unkempt widget]

what are you trying to say

that amd's naming convention is stopping them from getting sales?

[pulsar shore]

and i provided the same opinion of some one who had more expertise

[unkempt widget]

first of all, the last part of the video is about laptop cpus

[manic torrent]

You absolutely did not.

[patent fog]

I mean, isn't that with his authorization? He keeps saying he never gave them any authorization. That's why I understood it the way I did.

[tired glade]

So, why won't Asus make new high end brand for AMD GPUs?

[unkempt widget]

what the fuck, how is the video proving your point at all

[pulsar shore]

it makes it harder from some one who only has used one system to switch to another type

[full fossil]

they force me to otherwise i get kicked out of school and get suspended

[unkempt widget]

your point is not that amd has a horrible naming scheme, your point is amd's horrible naming scheme is stopping them from getting sales

[manic torrent]

Well, it's likely a condition of entry the school. Tbh it reeks of problems to me, but... Whatever.

[unkempt widget]

you do realize the video is talking about amd's laptop cpus, not the desktop ones right?

[tired glade]

Yea, my phone is charged,Boat don't sail to dip in unknown waters

[pulsar shore]

the naming scheme also goes to their graphic cards as well should those be exempt because they werent mentioned

[median idol]

Didn't AMD basically copy Intel in terms of naming their desktop CPUs?

[unkempt widget]

their naming scheme for graphics cards make perfect sense

[patent fog]

Don't know what to tell you then

[pulsar shore]

please explain

[unkempt widget]

first number is generation, second number is tier, third number represents midway points, fourth number is making it seem more valuable

[manic torrent]

No more to say?

[pulsar shore]

cant you see im also talking with other people?

[nova needle]

Talking to*

[pulsar shore]

fair

[unkempt widget]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-napoleon-bonaparte-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-gif-23037131

[nova needle]

Exactly!

[pulsar shore]

and then xt/ xtx/ or nothing

[unkempt widget]

dude xt/xtx/nothing is so easy to understand

the more x's the better

[pulsar shore]

which in contrast to gen/tier/ti

[manic torrent]

.... Is very similar.

[amber cairn]

the XTX suffix was a mistake

[unkempt widget]

they're literally the same thing

[nova needle]

More letter more performance

[amber cairn]

next gen XTXX

[wispy marsh]

Why is it that whenever I am here, it's always this sort of stuff

[unkempt widget]

there's also ti and super, but luckily nvidia discontinued super

[amber cairn]

TX^3

[wispy marsh]

There gotta be friction

[nova needle]

People dumb

[median idol]

X670E Extreme

[pulsar shore]

it is but the issue is one is slightly worse thus the vast majority using Nvidia or Intel prefer to already keep using the brand that they already have and that SLIGHT extra confusion makes it LESS likely for them to buy AMD instead

[wispy marsh]

This happens so much I might actually start picking up books again

[nova needle]

Reading is good

Use actual books tho

[wispy marsh]

To hit people with it

[pulsar shore]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-jared-dont-know-how-to-read-gif-14356898

embed fail

[nova needle]

Embed fail

[unkempt widget]

how...

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[pulsar shore]

[unkempt widget]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[manic torrent]

So, given your vast knowledge of tech sales and marketing, what would you do.

[amber cairn]

The issue is that AMD hasn't been competitive in such a long time that general consumers forget they still make GPU's even if they might make sense and at the same time thanks to the big gap nvidia can afford outspending AMD on sponsorships/ads

once you're behind it's a lot harder to catch up again

[summer folio]

11:th gen intel best cpu fr fr

[mild current]

Sometimes a common practice in naming conventions is the easiest and simplest answer regarding CPU's

[pulsar shore]

gen/tier/boost like the more adopted hardware so people feel less confused and its easier for them to buy your stuff than the brand they already bought stuff

[unkempt widget]

also oh my god intel 11th gen mobile cpu naming scheme

[nova needle]

Also oh god 11th gen power consumption and heat output

[pulsar shore]

also bad

[summer folio]

TeamViewer should start daily knocking on Linus door & telling him about their new Subscription model, just for fun.

[nova needle]

+1

[manic torrent]

.... But it already is!?

[pulsar shore]

"first number is generation, second number is tier, third number represents midway points, fourth number is making it seem more valuable" -StarMinor +XT/xtx/none

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_RX_7000_series

[amber cairn]

what is this circular conversation, is anyone disagreeing that it's how they name shit?

[unkempt widget]

this is exactly what nvidia does, minus the midway points

[manic torrent]

Yep. Totally different. Impossible to understand if you're a blithering idiot.

[nova needle]

Boat doesnt like it and thinks its confusing

[mild current]

Over-analysing a solution

[pulsar shore]

"it is but the issue is one is slightly worse thus the vast majority using Nvidia or Intel prefer to already keep using the brand that they already have and that SLIGHT extra confusion makes it LESS likely for them to buy AMD instead" ~Boat

[amber cairn]

It's not the naming scheme making AMD fall behind in the GPU market bro

[pulsar shore]

"also if you read my original point i said this is ONE of the reasons that AMD is not gaining more market share not the only driving adoption to a new system is hard and barriers to entry will simply make it harder" ~Boat

[amber cairn]

lmao sure buddy

[pulsar shore]

is this how chatGPT feels?

[tiny saffron]

Nvidia always have the driver advantage

[pulsar shore]

k

[manic torrent]

Yes. I have often seen chatGPT confidently state incorrect information and stick by it.

[amber cairn]

Nvidia has the overall package for things outside of gaming, that's their biggest strength lending them mindshare in professional circuits outside of the gaming bubble. Also a lot of ads and sponsorships

[nova needle]

I can vouch

[amber cairn]

chatGPT is very good at gaslighting you when it gives you incorrect answers yeah.

[pulsar shore]

last time -opinion- also if im wrong show me how

[nova needle]

Asked it how much power a PCIe slot provides, told me 75w over the 12v rail, which is false

[pulsar shore]

so far everyones counter argumant is Nvidia and Intel do it yeah they arent the ones stuck at 15% gpu market share

[amber cairn]

if it's an opinion no matter what it'll always be a matter of opinion, no-one's wrong except the person stating one is wrong without proper justification. Sell the idea better otherwise

If we flip that: intel and nvidia has the same naming convention and managed to capture 85% of the market, so their names don't seem to impede on sales huh

[pulsar shore]

they dont impede sales because its easier to use the same product you have used before

if 2 cars are going 70mph and the distance between them is a 100m unless car 2 goes faster they wont catch up intel and nvidia are ahead they dont NEED to be better

[nova needle]

Did you just outargue yourself? Astonishing.

[pulsar shore]

please, read

[nova needle]

Oh I did, trust me lmao this is priceless

[mild current]

I've been noticing RPG game mechanics can replicate system analysis frameworks

[pulsar shore]

+brand you use
-bad name

vs

-brand you havent used
-bad name

[nova needle]

Lets just call the next GPU George

[pulsar shore]

If im wrong, make a counter argument

[weary nebula]

i'm trying to install windows 8

but i'm having errors

Did anyone install windows 8?

[pulsar shore]

this is public chat

[weary nebula]

I bought data recovery pro but it doesn't run windows 11

[manic torrent]

So what you're saying is, you have no information on retail vs built sales, in-store vs online, availability vs sales, etc, and you've based your conclusion off nothing. I am not the one making hot takes here.

[mild current]

Are you here for the same reason I am?

[amber cairn]

Hot take and I have zero information: The big mac would sell more if it was called Winston

[unkempt widget]

^^^

[timid meadow]

For science!

[pulsar shore]

this isnt a counter argument this is sarcasm and adds nothing

[full fossil]

i dont know what to say

[rugged rapids]

An Apple store is gonna open in India 😮

[manic torrent]

Get angry at stupid people?

[full fossil]

they will buy redmis anyway

[amber cairn]

I'm here because I love procrastinating at work while waiting for shit to load

[rugged rapids]

I am in the upper middle class so nah, most of my friends etc have samsungs and our dads have iphones

[pulsar shore]

what youre saying is that because i dont have sales statistics from some thing no one has polled before im incorrect

[manic torrent]

.... I assure you this is known information

[pulsar shore]

to make terrible points

[manic torrent]

Do you understand marketing?

[pulsar shore]

go on then link it

[unkempt widget]

tbh that's also why i'm here

[pulsar shore]

do you? are you a sales expert?

[wispy marsh]

Bob, you can fix it

[amber cairn]

ask chatGPT

[timid meadow]

Yes he can!

[wispy marsh]

It's a mess in here, I believe you can

[nova needle]

I wanna have a Kebab now

[unkempt widget]

bob is literally bob the builder

[amber cairn]

we getting kebabs here? I'm game

[pulsar shore]

I love kebabs

[mild current]

I mean, yes! None of these conversations are serving any real purpose, it's like hanging out at centerlink and arguing with the unemployed on your day off work

[manic torrent]

I don't know where it is, and I don't know where to find it - and I would expect most of it to be commercial in confidence. Again, I'm not the one making claims.

[nova needle]

I dont want a kebab anymore

[pulsar shore]

literary this whole chat thread

[tiny saffron]

Best i can do is satay

[manic torrent]

I mean, I understand how it functions in a corporate environment.

[nova needle]

I want Gyros now

[wispy marsh]

No kebabs. Only burritos

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083765306658402314/1093471540038869103/253CBFDA-3D02-437A-88F5-DA83DF81DB20.jpg

[nova needle]

Embed fail

[pulsar shore]

i provided some reason to my claims, you are trying to disprove me thus you must provide some reason OR evidence if you cannot your point is moot

Embed fail

[wispy marsh]

[manic torrent]

"reason"

[pulsar shore]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[nova needle]

I will haunt you as a ghost, so chose wisely

[pulsar shore]

[pulsar shore]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[wispy marsh]

Thank you!

[mild current]

What the hell is everyone talking about

[pulsar shore]

i give up trying to use gifs

[amber cairn]

We're saving AMD's gpu division

[rugged bridge]

||your mother||
sorry couldnt help it lol

[manic torrent]

You provided an anecdotal personal observation and extrapolated it to an entire industry you know nothing about.

[pulsar shore]

one angry reply at a time

[amber cairn]

by renaming the cards after the zodiacs

Lmao, no-one's angry 😂 This is just amusing

[nova needle]

Being lonely and depressed is more fun than this

[pulsar shore]

by all means use your very reasonable ,widely shared and expert opinion as to why the naming scheme doesnt get in the way of driving adoption in any way shape of form

[wary summit]

should i clear my temp folder

[manic torrent]

How do you think most people buy computers.

[pulsar shore]

either pre built or laptop

[manic torrent]

Correct

[rugged bridge]

personally i buy mine from the local drug dealer

[mild current]

Everyone is here to waste time

[wary summit]

Does Temp slow down my laptop

[pulsar shore]

alt universe where pharmacies sell PCs

[manic torrent]

Leaving laptop aside, with a prebuilt, is the user choosing the video card?

[timid meadow]

Isnt that just what life is? Wasting time in whatever ways are easiest?

[nova needle]

I get mine from the Javas from Star Wars

[pulsar shore]

most pre builts have tons of options so yes

[manic torrent]

Yeah nah

[wary summit]

Yk i always wanted to start a computer bussiness kinda failed

[patent fog]

Most prebuilts do not have "tons of options"

[pulsar shore]

go on any reseller there isnt just one PC there are tons of pre builts

Or if you are buying from a pc building site you choose the card or config you want

[pulsar shore]

came out wrong loads of pre built options

[wispy marsh]

I have the feeling that people usually buy computers to interact with a GUI

[amber cairn]

the whole business model of prebuilts is few SKU's to mass-produce at scale

[nova needle]

Unless they use Linux

[mild current]

Go and find some purpose people

[nova needle]

Commandline supremacy

[pulsar shore]

good idea ill have breakfast brb

[wispy marsh]

Regular OEM linux comes with DE installed and enabled

[near nymph]

[summer folio]

Can't believe TechLinked Got Hacked yesterday

[nova needle]

Stop being right, dumbass

[patent fog]

Difference. Huge difference. With prebuilts you forced to the different configs the reseller gives you

[timid meadow]

They didnt. Youtube error

[amber cairn]

Don't a lot of Dell and HP laptops come with the option of getting linux if you order directly from them? Sure business laptops but still

[summer folio]

YouTube Error? Where you find these rumorS?

[patent fog]

Even if you choose to build your own actually there are limitations, but a lot less

[nova needle]

"A lot" yeah no

[amber cairn]

I mean the common business configs have an ubuntu option, it's more than the 0% years ago

[mild current]

I'll help people find Work if they are bored

[nova needle]

Still not a lot tho

[amber cairn]

🙄 it's always all or nothing with some people, small victories are no victories huh lmao

[nova needle]

I never said that

[wispy marsh]

[nova needle]

Me rn