public-chat

[sturdy bridge]

taxes being more expensive than the monitor

[timid meadow]

https://youtu.be/JodtsVwvfto solid vid from a couple years ago explaining it from the Purple Pyramid Queen 🙂

[fiery cipher]

huh will watch later

[patent fog]

O.o? What about the cheap ones?

[fiery cipher]

charity shopping is lit in the uk all kinda of cool dead or people who got fat or people who got old stuff

[timid meadow]

That channel (Illuminaughtii) also does alot of other corporate casket and related videos. Fun rabbit hole

[patent fog]

Um, isn't goodwill just hand-me-downs being sold at a cheaper price or given away? What more is there to explain?

[fiery cipher]

what happens with the money ig

[patent fog]

To keep the organization alive?

[low rain]

My dad was like “your not supposed to shop at goodwill, goodwill is for people who can’t afford other stuff” 😭😭😭

[timid meadow]

I mean thats fair too ig

[fiery cipher]

yeah but say go they sponsor political parties to keep people poor or something

[vapid smelt]

clearly only poor people can save money

[stray apex]

Exactly
Do you hate the economy?

[fiery cipher]

yeah duhhh rich people are bankrupt by 50 smh smh

[low rain]

The thing is my dad for some reason every time I ask for like a little bit of money he says “that’s a lot” even if it’s like 15 but then he’ll go and spend wayyy more

[patent fog]

Idk about what you're country in, but I know here I don't care how much money I have, I ain't goin' anywhere near politics, let alone sponsoring anything

[sturdy bridge]

same thing

[fiery cipher]

cl 15 is quite allot

[timid meadow]

Thats how money works. Even with kids. Money i earned is easier to spend on me. Giving it to others has a different standard. Even if those others are your children due to the overall dynamic there

[sturdy bridge]

monitor at 67$, yet taxes are $89

[low rain]

Nah but the thing is when I ask for stuff that’s expensive that’s when he says yes

[fiery cipher]

yeah bit businesses will sponsor them for favourable legislation

[low rain]

But I don’t rlly ask for expensive stuff

[fiery cipher]

12% tax aint bad

[cobalt bloom]

hey could i get some help plz 🙂

[timid meadow]

Because your more likely to have put thought into it and respect it. An expensive gift is different then random bits here and there

[fiery cipher]

for sales tax

[fiery cipher]

dont ask to ask just ask the question

[cobalt bloom]

alr

i have a intel i5 9400 what would be the best mob to get

i have a gtx 1650

so i need a new mob and a powersupply

and the pc is a dell

so i cant use this stupid motherboard

[stray apex]

doesn't the 1650 run off slot power?

[fiery cipher]

think so

[stray apex]

should just be plug and play

[eager venture]

If I where to ping plouffe to ask if he’s gonna review a certain keyboard will I get banned?

[cobalt bloom]

i dotn have it installed in the pc

[stray apex]

why not

[cobalt bloom]

1 the psu aint good enought i need more watts

[patent fog]

They already do. And the problem is nonprofit organizations like goodwill can't stop what the businesses do anyways. See, it's not about how many signs someone can put down. It's about the message one can deliver. And I promise you goodwill organizations cannot and never will be able to afford the fun messages some like to deliver in the form of TV ads, or billboard ads, etc to mislead the people.

[stray apex]

do you though
it's a 1650

[cobalt bloom]

dell uses propriatary connectors

[stray apex]

so?
they don't have proprietary pcie x16

[cobalt bloom]

only 150 watts

[cobalt bloom]

well i cant connect the psu to the gpu

[sturdy bridge]

so the psu is 150 w?

[stray apex]

you don't need to
it's a 1650

[cobalt bloom]

yes something like that

[sturdy bridge]

wont do for the pc

[patent fog]

It's a losing fight. Not that here, one is any better than the other anyways lol.

[cobalt bloom]

its a 4 or 8 pin

[stray apex]

1650 can run off just pcie power iirc

[cobalt bloom]

o

[stray apex]

it's not a 1650 super, right?

those are totally different
if it's a super it won't run off that

[cobalt bloom]

yea not a super

[fiery cipher]

legalise nuclear bombs

[cobalt bloom]

so i can just install it it does not need any external connectors

[stray apex]

correct

[cobalt bloom]

dang

ok so could i run with this psu with a 1650 plus my cpu with only 150 watts

[fiery cipher]

i doubt its just 150 can you grab a model number for the psu

[cobalt bloom]

i cant rn

[stray apex]

probably
with a 1080ti it draws like 230 watts in gaming but uh
you don't have a 1080ti

[cobalt bloom]

its just a dell pc

[patent fog]

It's already legalized lol. If the government wants to do it, they'll do it here. That's the whole point of war.

[full fossil]

Hi panda

[pliant karma]

I wouldn't worry too much the 9400 doesn't pull a lot of power anyways and 1650 is limited to the 75w off pcie

[cobalt bloom]

true

[fiery cipher]

i meant for civilians

[cobalt bloom]

would my pc be ok if i put the gpu in and dont play any games just makes sure it works

[stray apex]

in this test

[pliant karma]

wild panda has enough sanity to be in public chat

[cobalt bloom]

huh

[stray apex]

a 1650 draws less power than a 1080ti
so it should be fine

[fiery cipher]

worse that happens is it turns off

[cobalt bloom]

ok

[full fossil]

No way

[stray apex]

the worst that happens is your psu trips ocp and turns off

[cobalt bloom]

so it wont fry my pc

[fiery cipher]

no

[patent fog]

Given guns are already being used for purposes that they are not supposed to be used for, I doubt the law will stop nuclear bombs from being used in the future regardless what the law says.

[stray apex]

fairly unlikely
dell doesn't cheap out on PSU

[cobalt bloom]

o ok pet

[cobalt bloom]

ok thanks

the pc is a dell inspiron

[fiery cipher]

omw to nuke goodwill

[cobalt bloom]

like a 3677 idk i forget

[patent fog]

K, have fun

[fiery cipher]

pcname is near meaningless as dell names 100s of things Inspiron

[wispy marsh]

Two more weeks!

[fiery cipher]

till

[cobalt bloom]

i see

[wispy marsh]

Metallica full album release

[pliant karma]

tru unless you can grab the serial number and look it up on dell's driver website then you find it's name lol

[stray apex]

in furmark it can get up to 100w so
I guess don't run furmark

[fiery cipher]

i dont music but hope you enjoyit

[near nymph]

FP chat is nice. Keeps the children out since it's behind a paywall

[cobalt bloom]

how many watts for the cpu the intel i5 9400

[fiery cipher]

thats its computer first and surname then

[stray apex]

not many

[wispy marsh]

You don't music?

[cobalt bloom]

hm ok

[fiery cipher]

like don't listen

[wispy marsh]

[cobalt bloom]

well i could try it on my other pc

first just in case something goes wrong

[pliant karma]

free panda tip works for pretty much oem laptop certains:
If you open command prompt and type wmic bios get serialnumber that gives it to you and then copy and paste onto whatever manufacture site to grab drivers from

[fiery cipher]

you combatting the linus one tip at a time

[pliant karma]

and also within command prompt wmic path SoftwareLicensingService get OA3xOriginalProductKey gets you the windows key of that machine and depending on what type of key it can perhaps be used again in your custom pc

if you do not have windows activated yet

[urban ether]

I guess we are all potatoed out now. Are we back to computering?

[patent fog]

Nah

I'm phoning in right now

[urban ether]

You know...you could power a computer with many potatoes.

[cobalt bloom]

do it u wont

[pliant karma]

when uncle linus gets his potato farm back in operation we can do that

[urban ether]

That should be a video

Power a threadripper + triple GTX 4090 setup with potatoes.

You have to start from scratch and install Windows, drivers, games, etc all on potato power.

[patent fog]

I'd say the "powered by potatoes" meme has run it's course

[low rain]

man i need higher consistency and higher wpm, rn its 96 wpm, 95% accuracy, and 77% consistency

[wispy marsh]

[low rain]

man why am i so ass at typing

[runic lagoon]

I don’t know. I kind of want to send ltt 🥔 now

[patent fog]

I doubt LMG 'll ever do it, but I wanna see a video of infinite power by plugging the power cord into both outlets

[jolly galleon]

where are my farming tips

[patent fog]

Check downstairs

In the cabinet

[jolly galleon]

i just planted potatoes today

[patent fog]

Then you don't need any farming tips

You've already managed it

[gusty tiger]

hey so....i bought a pc from cyberpower a few years ago. I know, I know...dumb move. but I want to upgrade the cooling, case and psu. I am opting for the EK Nucleus 360 AIO and would like to also get the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO for my GPU. which case would work best? what should the radiator orientation be? and how many extra fans should i get? it's an i9-10900k with a Zotac Trinity OC 3080 on an Asus TUF Gaming z490 rig.

[lucid echo]

I know, I know...dumb move
Don't feel ashamed for going prebuilt. It's not dumb sometimes

[patent fog]

All my computers are prebuilt, nothing wrong with it

[lucid echo]

If you're going two AIOs.... my first thought is the O11D, or one of the corsair 4000/5000 series cases

[gilded quest]

incredible product idea

[lucid echo]

I mean... there can be things wrong with it, but it's not inherently bad as some here may claim

[stray apex]

uh
does the zotac trinity use reference pcb?

[lucid echo]

Yeah I was about to say, that GPU AIO prob isn't gonna work

[gusty tiger]

im not sure? the eiswolf 2 is compatible with it and ill have a guy build it

[gray linden]

What should I do as I'm changing from Nvidia to AMD?

[stray apex]

ah, yeah it's listed in the compatible section

[patent fog]

I mean other than the manufacturer doing things they probably shouldn't do (which can apply to every thing), what else?

[stray apex]

should be okay then
o11 is very good for dual aio

since it's actually designed to take three radiators for a custom loop

[gusty tiger]

ooo...and i want to grab the new quantum mag lev fans for the rest of the case fans

[stray apex]

I doubt you'll even need more

three bottom/ three top should be more than fine

[lucid echo]

Some integrators offer decent markups/prices, but others are outrageous. There's also a trend of cheaping out on the non-flashy components like PSU's and motherboards. Really, really depends on the SI.

Whether you define that as "shouldn't be doing" is up to the individual

[spiral summit]

Zamn

[lucid echo]

Idk if you need any extra fans. Both AIOs should come with their own

[gusty tiger]

i mean for the case itself

[spiral summit]

Isn't it expensive though

[snow lily]

The rog eva case, does anyone know if it's possible to very mount a 40xx GPU in it?

[lucid echo]

No need really, the airflow from the AIO's will be plenty

[patent fog]

The price argument is fair I guess. Cheaping out on components, it's not just SIs that do that lol. So do the people wanting to build their own PCs.

[lucid echo]

At least when it's DIY you're making that choice yourself

Many SI's will just tell you the CPU/GPU/Storage/RAM amount and the rest is just whatever they could get in bulk cheap

Again, usually that's totally fine

[patent fog]

Imma be honest actually now that I think about it. If it's price you're concerned about the most, as a newbie, then an SI built PC is probably the path to go for quality I think.

[stray apex]

Depends on the SI

Ideally find one that uses standardized components and has good support

(not dell)

[patent fog]

I've just given up on getting support for anything

[lucid echo]

Prebuilts are for convenience, time, and support
Anything they build, you can usually get for cheaper, but you're spending a bunch of extra time and effort doing so
Some people just wanna Uber Eats their dinner

[snow lily]

I had an ASUS gl12 prebuilt and couldn't transfer because it didn't have standard USB connections on the mobo, they all connected to 2 sata ports instead

[stray apex]

Well, for a first-time builder prebuilts have the additional benefit of someone else to troubleshoot for you

Troubleshooting when you don't own any other components is a nightmare

Like in my first build the SSD I bought was bad

But I had no way of figuring that out
So I bought a new motherboard and cpu

[plain dome]

ouch

[patent fog]

Oh, Fuck Uber eats. The price for delivery and the support is trash

I tried a few times lol

[lucid echo]

My credit card gives me their membership (cheaper fees, more promos) free & $15/month credit, so it's pretty clutch sometimes.
I prob wouldn't use it as often otherwise

[snow lily]

I'm too far from town to get anything delivered. I think they look at my address and start hearing banjos lmao

[wispy marsh]

BurritoLand?

[gleaming harbor]

maxico

[lucid echo]

Lol opposite here. Live in a downtown metro area - Wayyy too many options

[gilded quest]

an abundance of choice can really be a curse sometimes

[snow lily]

I'm like 5 or 7 miles outside a town with a population around 15k

[wispy marsh]

You could ask Chimp#6977 for buying stuff in mexico

[patent fog]

Lol, that's another reason I only have the basic cards, it's cause I almost never go for promos/memberships anyways and my most expensive spending is on electronics.

[lucid echo]

only worth it if you go hard in the benefits

[patent fog]

My monthly costs subscription fees is about 100$ rn, and this includes my mobile fee and my 31 day bud fee

[dusty valve]

Make it uncle Linus’ again

[near nymph]

Ooow what card

[lucid echo]

Amex platinum

[gilded quest]

i prefer father Linus'

[near nymph]

My card gives me Doordash for 1yr. I don't use it

[amber sedge]

Wtf

[near nymph]

Skip and Uber are better in my area

[gilded quest]

i have free doordash from chase but i don't use doordash

[amber sedge]

I want free doordash

[near nymph]

Mine is from RBC

The catch is... You must checkout with the RBC Avion card :/

[gilded quest]

doordash isn't worth it imo

[quick spade]

It’s honestly not too bad depending on how far away the place is

If delivery is free and gas is expensive it’s worth it

[patent fog]

I don't do delivery. I prefer commuting to where I wanna eat and eat it there. Cheaper and easier

[gilded quest]

idk the food arrives cold and soggy half the time

[quick spade]

Bruh

[patent fog]

More like all the time

[lucid echo]

Half the art of delivery is knowing which places won't arrive cold and soggy

Or being intoxicated enough where it won't matter

[gilded quest]

lol

[quick spade]

I’ve only doordashed once or twice and it was just because I was sick

[gilded quest]

why is he pinging mod

[quick spade]

Like sick to the point I couldn’t drive safely

[lucid echo]

Speedrunning a ban aren't ya Fallawsome?

[quick spade]

Fr

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[patent fog]

Strangely enough I don't feel like experimenting a few hundred dollars to know which places won't and which will

[quick spade]

He’s out of here lol

[plush rivet]

I thought warship was actually typing I was like wth

[plush rivet]

What did I miss

[patent fog]

Everything

Gotta do a rewind I guess

[quick spade]

Bro was spamming mods being vulgar thinking he was funny

[heady shard]

hey does anyone know how to deal with undervolting in PBO2?

[plush rivet]

Like @ ing mods?

[patent fog]

And staff

[quick spade]

Yeah

[plush rivet]

Wtf

[patent fog]

What, it's the internet lol

[hot mulch]

Whats a download?

[plain dome]

whats an internet?

[hot mulch]

Who is google?

[unkempt widget]

what

[lucid echo]

Rules are broken all the time here, but pinging staff is the greatest of sins

[hot mulch]

LMAO i read this as whats the internet

[unkempt widget]

damn the temptation the ping jake

[hot mulch]

thinking it was a little joke

[wise kettle]

You wouldn’t download a car would you?
Me with a 3d printer:

[plush rivet]

Haven’t seen you ina while, where you been?

[unkempt widget]

alr you will never believe what i did

[plush rivet]

Oh god

[unkempt widget]

i went outside with some irl friends

[plush rivet]

no shot

[hot mulch]

You wouldn't download that guys friends ass
Me with a 3d printer:

[plain dome]

dear god

[unkempt widget]

it was so fun

[plush rivet]

you’ve done it….i thought it was a myth….

[wise kettle]

[unkempt widget]

worst part about it was i am super bored now

[hot mulch]

Do you know the joke

[wise kettle]

Yes

[hot mulch]

||https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/zmpqr8/i_scanned_and_printed_a_friends_ass_for_christmas/ || 3d printed ass

[wise kettle]

Why for Christmas

[unkempt widget]

ikr

[hot mulch]

Its funny!

[patent fog]

Lmao. Fits reddit completely for making me go to my computer to view it.

[low rain]

imma overclock my monitor 💪

[wise kettle]

Every Sony tv

[plush rivet]

Pray it doesn’t break

Cuz kiss your warranty goodbye

[lucid echo]

Visit any social media through a mobile browser and they treat you like you've committed a felony

[wise kettle]

It won’t effect your warranty

[hot mulch]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5894950 DIY bomb/way to die

[lucid echo]

It would only affect your warranty if you straight-up tell them you OC'd it

[patent fog]

Why do you think I'm almost never on social media? 🙂

[plain dome]

i love diy bombs

[hot mulch]

My brother built one, when he finished it he was so happy he jumped up really high hasn't moved since

[patent fog]

They wanna lose their userbase, that's them

[plush rivet]

Yes it does? If you OC anything it voids it.

[wise kettle]

It’s like electro booms capacitor alarm clock

[plush rivet]

CPU overclocking voids it instantly.

[wise kettle]

That’s not binding

[low rain]

Wtf is a warranty 💪💪💪

[plain dome]

how are they gonna find out

[plush rivet]

It literally is but ok

[hot mulch]

Im building that

like actually building it for a school project

[plush rivet]

If you damage it, how else are you gonna explain why it broke

[low rain]

You js make something up

[plain dome]

but most of the time sensible ocing doesnt damage it

[plush rivet]

auto potato farm

[hot mulch]

grrrr

[wise kettle]

Gives gramps Vietnam flashbacks

[hot mulch]

me when accidential all caps

[unkempt widget]

well clearly i missed the memo

[indigo flume]

is replacing a laptop fan hard? Mine is fucked up , yall ever do that before, should i grow up and just do it?

M S I laptops sux

some kind stranger on the internet made a video showing my exact same problem https://youtu.be/FqsW5E7kiYg this guy show good way to fix it?

[gilded quest]

What do you think discord is?

[indigo flume]

ohh i didn't know it was common issue

[patent fog]

I said "almost" for a reason. Discord is an exception.

[indigo flume]

anyone else addicted to LTT videos? I watch them all 🙂

shit, ok well hopfully MSI will ship me a fan lol

[patent fog]

Also, I'm surprised have been here as long as I have. I must have gotten really lonely 😦

[indigo flume]

ohh shit, thanks for the heads up, i need to find a place that sells it lol

oh ok thanks

good to know

haha I got scammed on amazon , they still have the product up amazon doesn't give a shit

[vagrant perch]

I’m so happy with the LTT update video for framework

I hope Framework succeeds a lot as a company

[indigo flume]

i don't know how LTT is so rich, but i'm glad they are

[vagrant perch]

Haha it’s all those sponsorships

[indigo flume]

ohh true

[vagrant perch]

They pay off and I’m okay with them “selling” out for a good cause

[indigo flume]

they sponcer on top of sponcer

[gilded quest]

good business practices and strong content

[vagrant perch]

Yup, I honestly really enjoy the LTT screwdriver

[gilded quest]

2022-04-01 ;)

[indigo flume]

i've thought about it

[vagrant perch]

Mainly use it for pcs or appliances

[indigo flume]

haha yeah i liked that CPU shirt they had i thought about

[vagrant perch]

Yeah, but they use their money for their good projects instead of money hoarding like Walmart or other companies

[indigo flume]

that screwdriver like why did they reinvent the wheel, that was a mistake lol

[vagrant perch]

As far as I know at least

Honestly it was just for fun I feel like and it didn’t tank like it could have

[wise kettle]

PowerPC

[indigo flume]

mine is like 9 years old , it's still running well

[vagrant perch]

My main runs on ddr3 and and a 3060 fighting for its life. Work ( for uni) laptop is from 2019

Oh jeez

[wise kettle]

What OS?

[indigo flume]

i was shocked to see my I7 from 9 years ago is only like 60-70% slower then the new ones

[vagrant perch]

Honestly same except amd

[wise kettle]

Nice

Best windows

[indigo flume]

yall see this, sorry in advance https://youtu.be/iE39q-IKOzA

[knotty pebble]

Aloha

[wise kettle]

Only downside is steam dropping support for it

[indigo flume]

damn LTT discord doesn't even have embedded links ? lol

[lilac sage]

you just arent cool

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[vapid smelt]

multi core has entered the chat

[indigo flume]

no, i need data showing why i should not spend money and buy a $10k New PC, 🙂

[vagrant perch]

That’s a laptop no?

@full fossil

[lilac sage]

find someone who streams professionally with a CPU below 6 cores

[hot mulch]

sub to floatplane for awesome content and embeds

[vagrant perch]

I had an old asus but it was known for battery issues and literally stopped holding a charge after a month

[ocean sonnet]

people who stream professionally often have a second PC for handling the stream anyway

[indigo flume]

i'm no streamer, i'm a mechanical engineer lol

i don't do cad on my Personal PC, i do enough of it for work lol

[ocean sonnet]

well if you use any 3d modelling software, newer CPUs and GPUs might make your workflow several times faster

[knotty pebble]

Mechanical/Aerospace student

[hot mulch]

xqc uses single PC setup

[indigo flume]

nice! yeah college was rough, but i mean seeing how stupid some of your classmates should inspire you to get through it if they can 🙂

[hot mulch]

hes the biggest streamer ever

[ocean sonnet]

you seem to not understand the meaning of the word "often"

[indigo flume]

i've been a mechanical engineer for 11 years, it's been good so far ! lots more meetings then i like though

[knotty pebble]

What specific field? Structures, Controls, Thermofluids...?

[hot mulch]

often enough

[wise kettle]

He also buys one of everything he owns again when he moves so it’s already at his house

[hot mulch]

and?

[ocean sonnet]

the point was that he's not the prime example of sane decisions

[hot mulch]

fair

[wise kettle]

[knotty pebble]

Fair enough. I really want to get into thermofluids R&D. Combustion/etc.

[indigo flume]

ME is so broad i'm sure you can find something like that!

i should have done CS, those guys make like $200k out of school ?, i make like 110k after 11 years lol

[ocean sonnet]

only in the US

[vagrant perch]

That’s really dope @indigo flume my Numerical professor used to do hardware design for Lenovo but went back for his phd in math

[knotty pebble]

What region? As an intern this summer for Raytheon, I'll be getting 70k/year equivalent.

[dreamy rose]

what a lame decision

[indigo flume]

wow, yeah i feel like a lot of my professors in college had similar story, prob good he had real life experience , those are always the best professors!

[indigo flume]

wow that's amazing pay you are on another level then me! I mean Ratheon is probably not the easiest place to get an internship you must be smart congrats!

[wise kettle]

I mean it’s either destroy self repairability or math phd

[dreamy rose]

i'd rather breathe PC than drown in the pool of liquid turd that is math.

[vagrant perch]

He loved teaching, he had his masters and bachelors in Mechanical Eng

[indigo flume]

engineering degrees are basically math degrees really lol

[wise kettle]

You would rather willingly solder ram to a board than get a phd

[full fossil]

Wheres uncle linus

[vagrant perch]

He has a saying from one of his profs, “there are two types of people, you either love math or you don’t know you love it”

[indigo flume]

i assume they ignore this discord people who work for LTT?

[dreamy rose]

who said anything about Soldering RAM?

[full fossil]

Was the cooldown 10 secs or 5 i remeber it being 5

[vagrant perch]

Engineering is watered down Math brothers, sorry to offend

[indigo flume]

very true!

[wise kettle]

Lenovo hardware designers

[vagrant perch]

I’m getting a maths degree

[indigo flume]

math and CS degrees go hand in hand

[knotty pebble]

I definitely disagree with this

[full fossil]

Who here has bought from akko via aliexpress

[vagrant perch]

Yeah 2019 is the last good ram swap

[knotty pebble]

Engineering < Physics < Math in terms of mathematical purity

[dreamy rose]

as long as Maths doesn't include fucking letters its maths.

[vagrant perch]

Thank you!

Idk even purity, math and physics are blurred

[knotty pebble]

Today I learned math ends in about 7th grade

[vagrant perch]

Mathematical physics hurts more than most math

[indigo flume]

haha, yeah it's not true , but looking back i remember spending most of my time solving math problems at my desk , 10 years after college lol

[vagrant perch]

Pde math will traumatize most physicists

[knotty pebble]

Two words: Runga-Kutta

[indigo flume]

i miss those math dreams i would have in college for mechanical engineering, where i was dreaming solving math problems lol

[vagrant perch]

Loook into Anderson accelerator for navier stokes

[knotty pebble]

One time I was so tired while driving I started coming up with the DE's for a raindrop on my windshield while driving

[indigo flume]

navier stokes

[knotty pebble]

That's what my research is on

[vagrant perch]

LMAO

[dreamy rose]

warshipped

[timid meadow]

Ship happens. Oh well kek

[knotty pebble]

How did this random channel become filled with engineers

[vagrant perch]

Anderson acceleration allows for a more efficient determination of convergence so then you can solve with RK or Cheby or any other

[indigo flume]

this discord is surprisingly active

[dreamy rose]

the TV was borken

[timid meadow]

Its a sunday night and all the boomers were up early at church so the helpdesk is slow rn

Warship again?

[knotty pebble]

Rip

Reason I joined the channel was to ask. Does anyone know how I can replace the Cisco AnyConnect VPN connection by manually setting up the remote connection in the macOS network settings?

[vagrant perch]

A math major is procrastinating applied statistics work

[knotty pebble]

The Cisco App shuts itself down for no reason sometimes, when I'm SSH'ed into my college HPC

[vagrant perch]

Check advanced preferences for it in the upper right bar of mac?

[dreamy rose]

huh, macos, what a terrible choice

[knotty pebble]

Wrong

And before you even say it, I don't game

[vagrant perch]

MacOS has a better shell than windows, I’ll give him that

Power shell= not even power bottom

[dreamy rose]

its amazing just how many people are content living in Filth

[knotty pebble]

And when my research is literally computational programming in the terminal, macOS is vastly superior

[vagrant perch]

Yup, tbh you might like Asahi the way it’s been looking

[dreamy rose]

lemme guess, never used linux?

[knotty pebble]

I use it all the time by SSHing into the HPC I use. I also use my Raspberry Pi for stuff like that

[vagrant perch]

Bro how did you get a hand on a Pi, the out of stock hurt me

[gilded quest]

by buying them 4 years ago

[knotty pebble]

I got one as a gift a few years ago

[dreamy rose]

Linux is home to the best desktops in existence

[strange elk]

Cnet: "The debate has been raging among audiophilles for months now -- which has the better sound, the 5th gen video iPod or the newer iPod classic?"

The "iPod Classic" they linked was a 2nd gen >->

[gilded quest]

Hannah Montana Linux is ballin'

[knotty pebble]

With a 10x learning curve with absolutely no real benefit for the vast majority of people

[strange elk]

Try PonyOS

[vagrant perch]

I wouldn’t say Linux is the best, but for programming I do like Arch

[strange elk]

Its not linux

[dreamy rose]

you know damn well i'm not talking TWMs.

[vagrant perch]

If you mess with the system more than your average Microsoft Word Joe then Linux does a better job at not making layers of annoying walls

[dreamy rose]

they suck. full DEs are much better

[knotty pebble]

TWM's?

[vagrant perch]

Tiling window managers

[knotty pebble]

Fair

[dreamy rose]

Tiling Window Managers, you dont know about them?

[knotty pebble]

What does that have anything to do with that. I use Rectangle (open source) on macOS

[strange elk]

twms are cool as shit but I dont use hotkeys enough for that
Or have the capacity to remember and use all that

[vagrant perch]

I have no clue @knotty pebble

[dreamy rose]

Hotkeys are their entire personality

[vagrant perch]

I just use emacs and default super tiling

[knotty pebble]

#build-a-pc message

[dreamy rose]

as i was saying. KDE, literally the best Desktop you can use, its Windows without all the garbage.

GNOME if you want a less Dogwater version of MacOS.

[knotty pebble]

Quite frankly it doesn't matter to me what other people use. macOS is very useful to me. Logical, works well with my workflow, and doesn't require me to grow a neckbeard

[vagrant perch]

Nothing is wrong with MacOS imo

[dreamy rose]

No, MacOS is completely backwards. unusable.

[vagrant perch]

Although I do hate the touch bar for my 2019 pro

[knotty pebble]

Reasons include...

[vagrant perch]

@dreamy rose what do you do for your life that requires you to hate macOS

[dreamy rose]

why sort files by color tags? Where is the second click?

[vagrant perch]

Two fingered?

Doesn’t have to sort by color

Just adds another layer to sort

[knotty pebble]

I never use color tags. Two fingered click

Or tap, because I don't like to physically press down

[dreamy rose]

a layer that makes no sense, Apple doing things backwards.

[vagrant perch]

Backwards?

I think you are just hating to have a controversial opinion and instead need to understand solutions exist for certain problems and that just happens to be outside your solution space

[dreamy rose]

that's literally how they work, Apple works ass Backwards.

[knotty pebble]

Aight but you have yet list any reasons

[vagrant perch]

Lol same, I love the two buttons on the 2019 think pad t480 though with the precision pointer

I think he’s just trolling, no need to feed

[knotty pebble]

I acknowledge that macOS isn't perfect. Finder (File Explorer on macOS) has some weird search problems, but that's all the gripes I have

[dreamy rose]

literally just looking at it you can see how Detestable it is.

[vagrant perch]

He’s following a “popular” opinion without personal justification

[knotty pebble]

A popular unpopular opinion

[dreamy rose]

it may be a popular opinion but its grounded in fact.

[knotty pebble]

Carry on

[vagrant perch]

Lol, speak to the user count then

Have fun not being able to keep up with the modern graphics design demands on Linux

[dreamy rose]

if it was so good then more people would be using it, not just Apple Fans.

[polar fern]

…

[vagrant perch]

You think companies that are issuing out MacBooks are apple fans?

[knotty pebble]

There are no better laptops at their price point

None even remotely comparable

[rare zenith]

Some people organize better with colors (you also don't have to btw)
You can change it to be the bottom right of the trackpad

[vagrant perch]

I think I’m gonna tap out of this delusional argument with someone who thinks there is only one right answer for everyone I’m the world

[dreamy rose]

AMD exists you know

[vagrant perch]

LMAO “amd exists you know”

[polar fern]

Solid alu body

[vagrant perch]

Apple doesn’t even run Intel chips, anymore

[rare zenith]

Not much exists that does almost everything right (almost)

[vagrant perch]

This part, industry is using the best fit solution for the job at hand

[dreamy rose]

you laugh, but when did an intel gaming laptop ever last 10 hours on battery?

[vagrant perch]

You’re thinking the best tool is a hammer so you’re only seeing nails

You think people with jobs are gaming on laptops?

[rare zenith]

In their free time?

[polar fern]

See recent video

The answer is: yes

[knotty pebble]

I don't game. I need access to a Unix terminal. I want a normal GUI.

[dreamy rose]

point is you are getting better specs for good battery life.

[knotty pebble]

macOS is the obvious choice

[dreamy rose]

Kubuntu fits that job perfectly.

[vagrant perch]

And what is to stop someone from just bringing their charger and using it

What time period are you living in

[rare zenith]

Both are fine, I have gripes with both windows and mac

[dreamy rose]

the 2020s

[vagrant perch]

These theoreticals are impractical

[polar fern]

This chat…

[knotty pebble]

Lemme just quickly use some obscure distro that'll gaurentee I have to haggle with for no reason

[rare zenith]

Maybe where they sit doesn't have a power plug??

[vagrant perch]

Yeah I wanna hang myself biker

[dreamy rose]

ah yes, the most obscure distro. UBUNTU

[vagrant perch]

But why would they choose to do that when you can find a power plug literally anywhere (in the us at least)

[knotty pebble]

Ah I thought you said kubuntu

Which I thought wasn't a typo

[rare zenith]

Maybe they dont have a choice.

[dreamy rose]

Yes, its Ubuntu with KDE, hardly obscure.

[polar fern]

Precision floating point unit

[knotty pebble]

True. But at the same time, as a college student I don't want to be tied to a wall

[polar fern]

Woah let’s not go there

[vagrant perch]

@dreamy rose do you make a lot of money hard riding the Linux train?

Leave floating point error out of this hahahaha

It’s an imperfect currently practical solution lol

[dreamy rose]

do you really get any benefit using on overpriced Closed source knockoff of BSD?

[vagrant perch]

Also sorry LTT chat this is soooo off topic

[vagrant perch]

Did I say I payed for it or it was provided by my company? If it was provided, why should I care?

[polar fern]

My intel Mac mini getting upgraded to 32 gigs of memory be like

[dreamy rose]

Still, MacOS is Garbage. that's a fact.

[polar fern]

Almost time. May probably.

[vagrant perch]

Lol okay

[rare zenith]

Depends on your use case

[vagrant perch]

Dang brother are you doing soldering?

[polar fern]

No

[vagrant perch]

Why the mask?

[polar fern]

Mask?

[vagrant perch]

On the keyboard

[manic torrent]

what?

[manic torrent]

hahahhahahahaha

[dreamy rose]

the only use case where MacOS is fine is reviewing a mac. other than that you're better off just using linux or buying a PC.

[polar fern]

Oh. Just an old P95 for going out places.

[vagrant perch]

Oh okay I was thinking metal particle filtering

[rare zenith]

Oh, you're Linux stan. Gotcha

[wise kettle]

I think macOS is better than windows but then again I use Linux

[vagrant perch]

I was like heck yeah ppe

[manic torrent]

nono, he's full on cooked

[vagrant perch]

I use all three, but I still never go full re-…. Nevermind

[polar fern]

For soldering I can use those, but i also have a 3M 6000 series. Better value.

[dreamy rose]

i look at what's good and state the obvious.

[wise kettle]

[hollow zealot]

My solution is soldering next to a fan in the garage

[rare zenith]

I prefer Mac os but I don't use it cause a few things I do are windows exclusive

[manic torrent]

yeah you can't use that word anymore, but I'm getting what you're putting down

[vagrant perch]

I don’t have any experience soldering but I’ve thought about getting into it because it seems cool

[vagrant perch]

@hollow zealot I hope you’re in an open air environment

Otherwise lung cancer is around the corner

[rare zenith]

Sure, Linux gives performances benefits. But when I tried it it kept breaking and it's so not user friendly that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone

[hollow zealot]

Garage w/ door open

[manic torrent]

I mean it's very useful if you need to connect wires and such

[polar fern]

Learning to solder & other stuff & do minor repairs is 100% awesome.

[hollow zealot]

With my job asbestos will get me first

[dreamy rose]

ah yes, average Nvidia user when their closed source drivers intentionally aren't shipped with the kernel.

[vagrant perch]

Yeah, I was planning to be able to build a tiny little integrated server for my future home after grad school. Gonna use like normal cctv cameras that only feed directly into the server

[hazy dawn]

I'd like it if macOS didn't make disk utility more useless with every version

[rare zenith]

Lol I don't use Nvidia

[vagrant perch]

If you’ve seen the last of us, it’s like Bill house @polar fern

[rare zenith]

So don't assume my issue was just my graphics card

[polar fern]

Back in January I actually replaced the entire headlight unit on my girlfriend’s car because a rock had cracked it open letting water leak in. I thought I could just replace the lens, but unfortunately the whole thing had cracks.

[rare zenith]

My finally straw was my discord not working in voice chats

[vagrant perch]

Oh jeez @hollow zealot what do you do?

[vagrant perch]

That’s mad valid. Can’t have friends? Why use it

[rare zenith]

I do have friends tho

[dreamy rose]

majority of peoples problems are caused by Nvidia's Drivers, its the first step to finding issues.

[hazy dawn]

Linux has sound?

[rare zenith]

Cool

[polar fern]

Hypothetically, we’re all just extended family and sometimes we get along.

[hollow zealot]

HVAC
Lots of old houses with old insulation in crawl/attic
I mostly kid though, I haven't actually run into asbestos yet

[manic torrent]

I literally use linux to route all the sound at my desk

[rare zenith]

It did, my mic wasn't detected in discord but it worked on the os

[hollow zealot]

I should find a way to get something to detect it tho

[polar fern]

Discord asks about a new audio device every 25 minutes on my Mac, so it’s not just a Linux thing

[dreamy rose]

apparently if we go back far enough and we can trace ourselves to one woman in Africa

[heady flicker]

Mac is based off Linux

[vagrant perch]

@rare zenith I think you intercepted me wrong. I meant if you can’t interact with your friends then Linux is useless

[polar fern]

Well, I guess she had fun

[dreamy rose]

*BSD

[manic torrent]

lol

[polar fern]

🤷‍♂️

[wise kettle]

Kinda ya but no

[vagrant perch]

I wish you luck to not run into it ever

[rare zenith]

Ok

[polar fern]

macOS is based on the Darwin unix kernel

[wise kettle]

And aqua

[polar fern]

Nothing to do with Linux really

[dreamy rose]

they are Unix like but thats where the similarities end, linux gets a lot better than MacOS immediately after that.

[polar fern]

Aqua mhm.

Erm how do you mean?

[wise kettle]

When developing it they looked to Linux for some things but that’s it

[polar fern]

Uh no.

[wise kettle]

It’s either the desktop or windowing system can’t remember

[polar fern]

No again.

[hazy dawn]

nvidia is starting to open parts of their linux software stack, neat 👌

[manic torrent]

.... uhhhhh

[vagrant perch]

@dreamy rose why don’t you make your own Linux distribution from scratch Mr. Linux fan 101

[manic torrent]

"better" what is better.

[dreamy rose]

these half open drivers, i still don't like them tbh.

[vagrant perch]

Yeah the open drivers for NVIDIA still kinda suck though.

I still use the alternative on arch

[hazy dawn]

I think you still need the proprietary firmware modules.

For DRM support, etc

[vagrant perch]

Yeah that’s probably what it is

[hazy dawn]

What, nouveau?

[manic torrent]

They are SLIGHTLY more open than the wrappers they had before.

[vagrant perch]

Yeahhhhhh

[dreamy rose]

the fact you can do anything you choose with Linux itself for ANY use case

[vagrant perch]

Which isn’t bad but it’s not good

[dreamy rose]

all its for is the idea of including something in the kernel.

[hazy dawn]

Also there was a huge 98GB leak of the driver source code last year

[hollow zealot]

Unfortunately Linux does not work for every use case afaik

[vagrant perch]

It doesn’t

[manic torrent]

it CAN, which is the problem that people think it SHOULD

[dreamy rose]

it works for the majority,

[hollow zealot]

People stuck with proprietary software like aDoBe

[vagrant perch]

The more time a researcher has to spent fixing his OS is less time he spends researching

[manic torrent]

it absolutely doesn't work for every use case

[hazy dawn]

I just virtualize everything these days.

[hollow zealot]

Or other similar suites

[manic torrent]

all my services are in docker containers on my server (which runs linux) and my laptop and desktop run windows.

I ran linux as a desktop OS in the 90s.

[hollow zealot]

Linux can work for a majority of people
But so can windows
And mac

[dreamy rose]

that's right, it doesn't work for Apple / Microsoft fans. or people knee deep in Adobe that they refuse to move to different tools that are just as good. everyone else, Linux works perfectly fine.

[hollow zealot]

I use Windows because it works

[dreamy rose]

barely.

[manic torrent]

have you met people? like.. normal people?

[low rain]

Ifixit kits are goated

[hollow zealot]

I've almost never had an issue with windows
The only thing that's ever gone wrong with my W11 install is that it would wake up from sleep randomly
But that wasn't even an issue

[manic torrent]

oh shut up. This is a garbage take.

[polar fern]

https://youtu.be/ihePAy4pO-U

[rare zenith]

Agree

Of the 3 windows is the most versatile cause that's what everyone makes apps for

[vagrant perch]

Never that, scroll up for context on his mental war

[unkempt widget]

bionic has some of the weirdest takes tbh

[manic torrent]

I'm well acquainted with his insanity

[hollow zealot]

Isn't windows still like 75% of the market

[unkempt widget]

yes

[manic torrent]

which market. This is my point.

[rare zenith]

Yup

[unkempt widget]

well i just assumed desktop os

[hollow zealot]

That's a good point

[dreamy rose]

the majority would be satisfied with Linux. all the good parts of not windows with the bad parts of windows being gone. majority of people would like an out of box experience with no nagging about updates or Ads about games they don't give a shit about. Linux does that with no need to turn your brain backwards to use it.

[rare zenith]

What do you mean what market??

[dreamy rose]

Desktop or server

[gilded quest]

windows isn't 75% of the mobile market

[manic torrent]

also, what is "linux", and I can't buy it at best buy

[unkempt widget]

lol you severely overestimate the average person's tech savviness

[rare zenith]

True

[unkempt widget]

first of all, how many people have the mental capacity to use google?

[hollow zealot]

I tried using Linux
I had to turn my brain backwards to use it because I didn't have CLI experience so that freaked me out at first

[rare zenith]

Most games I've seen don't even support linux

[unkempt widget]

not even people in a tech server can use google

[hazy dawn]

So... with only an open kernel module I guess that leaves the nvidia cuda compiler and the opengl implementation still closed? Still good because you no longer have to taint your kernel

[manic torrent]

desktop market for DIY, desktop market for retail, desktop market for enterprise, yadda yadda

[manic torrent]

oh look, it's better, but calling it open is a stretch.

[unkempt widget]

you completely misunderstood my point, read it again

[rare zenith]

What's your point?

[dreamy rose]

Linux doesn't NEED you to use the terminal. and if you really do you can just copy paste. its hard to say its not good for the average person.

[manic torrent]

yeah, it does.

[unkempt widget]

that people can't google questions for shit

[hollow zealot]

Woof

[manic torrent]

if you use it for any length of time, you WILL need to use the terminal to fix something.

[hazy dawn]

True, but mesa is already building a vulkan implementation on top of it, so we'll get there

[rare zenith]

Oh ok

[dreamy rose]

no it doesn't, you clearly haven't tried using it.

[meager kindle]

Test

[unkempt widget]

they'd be asking on public chat for a simple question rather than googling

[gilded quest]

ACK

[meager kindle]

A

[manic torrent]

.... I haven't tried using linux. dude. I have used linux for LITERALLY 25+ years.

[hollow zealot]

Within my first hour of Ubuntu I managed to put myself in a boot loop by messing up my gpu drivers

[dreamy rose]

then you should know this.

[rare zenith]

Sometimes the answer google pops while can be written in a confusing way

[unkempt widget]

lol

[dreamy rose]

Nvidia problem.

[hollow zealot]

Thanks for assuming

[manic torrent]

I put a spare radeon GPU in my server. HDMI audio didn't work. I found out why when I found a message in the kernel mailing list about a bug that was introduced three years ago, never bothered to be fixed, and made it into stable released kernels.

[unkempt widget]

ah yes "stable"

[manic torrent]

how the fuck is a normal user supposed to EVER be able to even diagnose that.

even a "power user" is going to struggle.

[hollow zealot]

I'd destroy my system trying to fix that

[dreamy rose]

normal people aren't using GPUs. it wont matter when they arent using it.

[unkempt widget]

what the fuck are you talking about

[rare zenith]

You're actually trolling

[gilded quest]

right, the "average" linux user is on a 15 year old thinkpad

[rare zenith]

Normal people use gpus

[dreamy rose]

majority are using Integrated Graphics, on the intel side.

[unkempt widget]

which doesn't have audio?

[strange elk]

man I keep thinking about that drive in theater linus set up and how I wish I had been there lmao

[rare zenith]

I'm block you, you can't be serious

[unkempt widget]

holy shit my c key is double clicking again

[manic torrent]

but you said linux was better. why doesn't it work with a normal expected feature that has worked for decades

[meager kindle]

[hazy dawn]

sarcasm....?

[dreamy rose]

what's this Bullshit about Linux not having Audio? it does. it works perfectly fine.

[hazy dawn]

Intel graphics absolutely has audio

[hollow zealot]

Personally I think the Linux is better than Windows argument is pointless
It's pretty much comparing a pear and an apple

[polar fern]

Boot loop sounds painful

[strange elk]

Maybe you mean "Most people arent using GPUs for AUDIO?"

[unkempt widget]

idk, that was just an example

[strange elk]

[dreamy rose]

you are comparing a freshly picked pear with a Rotten Moldy apple.

[hazy dawn]

That's a specious argument though. Plenty of people hook their PC up to a TV

[dreamy rose]

most people dont own a GPU in general.

[manic torrent]

so, fuck you if you run a GPU?

[hollow zealot]

You're comparing two similar things in completely different categories

[wispy marsh]

Do I keep my spare 5600X?

[manic torrent]

the word "better" here is absolutely meaningless

[unkempt widget]

sorry but aren't igpus gpus?

[strange elk]

Eh I would. Make a good server

[unkempt widget]

and don't they also have audio?

[meager kindle]

yes

[unkempt widget]

no way did amd send you a prototype 5600x3d

[dreamy rose]

they aren't Separate chips.

[wispy marsh]

My 2600 has iGPU though, I don't have a GPU to spare for the 5600X

[unkempt widget]

which means...

[strange elk]

well.. akshually..

[strange elk]

Keep it and get one. 5600X is a fantastic cpu

[unkempt widget]

bruh where is bionic

[manic torrent]

lala land

[wispy marsh]

I'll sell the 5600X

It's gonna be $50

[strange elk]

Eh. Up to you but your loss

[jolly marsh]

Ngl this discord is goofy

[strange elk]

True....

[hazy dawn]

Don't the integrated radeon graphics share a lot of code? If so that bug might hit laptop vega users

[jolly marsh]

I see the most weirdest advice and most advice is trash

[dreamy rose]

clearly they have audio? sorry. i cant see where you are going with this, this is just pointless.

[unkempt widget]

you'll get used to it

[gilded quest]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-toss-drop-linus-linus-tech-tips-gif-26020574

[wispy marsh]

Or... I can get my brother to upgrade his 8400 to a 5600X, and I'll get to use the 8400

[jolly marsh]

Everyone be thinking they It technicians when they aren’t 💀

[unkempt widget]

yeah, aren't you proving my point?

[wispy marsh]

The 8400 can handle ram speeds double that's of my 2600

[hollow zealot]

I'm a technician :)

[strange elk]

Everyone is too confident without knowing the facts, or bothering to fact check themselves/be open to criticism

[dreamy rose]

what? wake up. the iGPUs are fine.

[hollow zealot]

You just summed up 90% of the internet in one message

[unkempt widget]

and the dgpus are also fine

[hazy dawn]

Are you calling us large language models!?

[unkempt widget]

tbh they just summed up 90% of the world

[hollow zealot]

Good point

[strange elk]

They arent, I think thats the point. Or rather they are, its the linux kernel thats broke.

[manic torrent]

see, I am confident BECAUSE I know the facts. I am open to criticism, but when you come for me, you best not miss.

[hollow zealot]

At this point, wouldn't be surprised

[full fossil]

I bought a computer in 2020 is ddr5 really worth it?

[strange elk]

eh. Not really

[manic torrent]

yes/no/maybe/depends

[unkempt widget]

depends

[manic torrent]

simple answer: no. Long answer: possibly.

[full fossil]

I’m really just gaming

Not much else

[hollow zealot]

New mobo, new ram, possibly new CPU
For most, not really worth it

[strange elk]

DDR5 is still young and still has growing pains. Id wait to upgrade at least a couple years.

[unkempt widget]

if you're upgrading to am5 then yes, getting ddr5 will be essential

[full fossil]

I was thinking I could turn my computer into a 10 gigabit server

[unkempt widget]

otherwise, no it's not

[full fossil]

And upgrade to ddr5

[strange elk]

You dont need ddr5 for that afaik

[dreamy rose]

i think the point you are missing is that the majority are on laptops, who ARENT using HDMI to use the thing at all.

[unkempt widget]

you'd have to use u.2 or nvme for that speed of storage though

[hazy dawn]

I like how someone complained about a broken driver and someone else immediately tried to deflect with "most people don't use GPUs"

[full fossil]

Yeah I have that

[dreamy rose]

even then, majority are on Intel.

[unkempt widget]

you won't need ddr5 for that

[full fossil]

Can I do a mix of 10 gig and 5 gigabit drives

[hollow zealot]

Funny thing is, the reason I was messing with the drivers is because my second display wouldn't work

[strange elk]

I mean technically they arent WRONG but like.. they arent right either

[full fossil]

I have like 5 sata ports on my mobo

And 2 m.2

[strange elk]

Sata wont get you 10 gig

[hollow zealot]

Me being stupid is probably what broke it

[unkempt widget]

aren't server ram slower than regular ram?

[full fossil]

Ive stated that

[hazy dawn]

Lots of motherboards have 2 sata controllers

[strange elk]

Sorry, having trouble following

[full fossil]

I’m asking if I can have both 5 gig and 10 gig at the same time

[astral garden]

I have been there and done that but we all learn from our mistakes

[unkempt widget]

what

[full fossil]

5gig is sata right

[dreamy rose]

isnt that due to ECC? and isnt that standard in DDR5?

[unkempt widget]

i mean yes, but that's a weird way of phrasing the question

[unkempt widget]

it's 6 gig

(but in reality, you won't reach 6)

[unkempt widget]

yes

[dreamy rose]

SATA can only do 600MB/s you want NVME for anything faster than that.

[full fossil]

True thats why I said 5 gig 💀

[unkempt widget]

you probably won't reach 5 gig as well

[full fossil]

Maybe I have no idea

[unkempt widget]

theoretically, you will reach 5 or 6 gig, but in practicality, not that often

[velvet marsh]

sequential you will

[full fossil]

I have cat 6 in my walls

[strange elk]

How does raid like that work is the consideration. Do you raid the nvme and sata separately or raid all drives as one? and if you do the latter is it capped to sata speeds, like how memory syncing works?

[dreamy rose]

get it out, the other 5 cats want him back

[full fossil]

What about 5e

[unkempt widget]

not always

[velvet marsh]

does depend on the drive

[full fossil]

I just want a data backup

And a cloud data backup

I wonder what is the least data rot option of backup for local storage

[strange elk]

Tapes iirc?

[hazy dawn]

Wouldn't that depend on your specific motherboard?

[full fossil]

I forgot they still used those

[strange elk]

lmao

[full fossil]

Computer absolutely nukes itself

Hold on let me just get out my vcr

blows dust off ancient device

[strange elk]

I have one in my closet right now

also a vinyl/tape player/radio

[full fossil]

Bro Imagine your family stumbles upon it and just chucks it because vcr old

[strange elk]

We keep everything. Its honestly a bit annoying

[full fossil]

I just chuck everything that isn’t important away

Things like clothes go to donation

[strange elk]

Im glad to keep the old tech, 100%, I wish we still had a crt because id take that shit with me when I move out

[full fossil]

I had one

[strange elk]

I miss ours

[full fossil]

A sony triniton wega KV-30HS420

[strange elk]

wow

[full fossil]

It had a hdmi port

Lost it in the move

I got it from some old dude for 60 bucks

[strange elk]

I dont even know the brand of ours. And RCA all the way till we got a plasma tv. How the hell do you lose a tv

[full fossil]

It was in the guest room in his house

Hit the ultimate jackpot

But lost it when my family left it outside after I left the house

[strange elk]

damn..

[hazy dawn]

I RAID them separately. Then you can use your SSD as cache for your spinning disks

[strange elk]

There you go

[hazy dawn]

or part of it, it's very flexible with tools like zfs and bcache

[full fossil]

I’m looking to turn my new room into a 80s living room now

The pull out couch and everything

[strange elk]

Ive been wanting that for the past 4 years, except I think more early 2000's dreamscape style yk?

Racks of tapes/vinyls, and a stereo setup with a crt right in the middle on a massive tv stand

well.. a tv stand with glass covers

[hazy dawn]

They make USB turntables

[wary summit]

awhh booo no sticker bomb?

[full fossil]

I’m gonna have like a early 2000s computer on a desk in there and have a copy of windows that looks like xp on it and the computer will be modern

[strange elk]

nah. None of that hipster shit.

[full fossil]

So my moms old living room

Plasma tv having ass

[hazy dawn]

I've never seen a plasma tv in person

[full fossil]

Dude

Imagine what a crt weighs in flatscreen form

[strange elk]

I have a plasma tv on my wall rn btw. A ps2, wii, xb360, sega genesis, a dell dimension...

[hazy dawn]

Precisely engineered for toe removal, eh

[full fossil]

Wii remote begging to smash it

[dreamy rose]

POV: You customize windows

[teal estuary]

that is too accurate a description

[strange elk]

None of its hooked up but I can any time I want, and when I move Ill have a space for them

[teal estuary]

only problem is that it requires knowing how heavy a CRT is

[full fossil]

Yeah because windows phone home is lame

[hazy dawn]

There's some steam games that still say Windows XP on requirements

[dawn anchor]

the sleeper. best i can do is make it look like 7

[strange elk]

Also plasmas got real bad burnin, like early oled tvs and never got better

[full fossil]

Vista

[dawn anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1092310376386928670/image.png

[dawn anchor]

vista is hideous

[full fossil]

Exactly

[strange elk]

Plasma was terrible

[full fossil]

Thats why I chose xp

[dawn anchor]

7>vista (literally)

6.1>6

[strange elk]

8*

[dreamy rose]

at least Vista isn't overrated.

oh wait it is, its called 7

[strange elk]

You saying 7 was overrated?

[full fossil]

Windows xp was the only (except vista) thing out during the time my living rooms time setting

[strange elk]

You went there

[dawn anchor]

i used xp and vista and the user experience was night and day

xp only used like 1.53gb max

[full fossil]

I think windows 8 was probably the worst

[strange elk]

Prob on the same pc that couldnt actually handle it

[full fossil]

My dad had a computer with vista and dial up

[strange elk]

Its been said before and Ill say it again, Vista was just too far ahead of its time

[dreamy rose]

8.1 got too much hate

[full fossil]

Not 8.1 I said 8

8.1 was ok

[dreamy rose]

ik. 8.1 got hated just as much too.

[dawn anchor]

the DAY after i got stuck using a Vista laptop to game, I popped in an OEM Windows 7 CD. Never could've been better

[full fossil]

It was on my moms pos system at her store

I played uh world of warships on it

[strange elk]

point of sale, not piece of shit

[full fossil]

It was both

[strange elk]

fair

[unkempt widget]

i have a theory

[full fossil]

I used dial up on xp and vista

[dawn anchor]

i remember my grandma was stuck using windows 8 on her pc because i remember the app store ui and the "UPRADE NOW IT'S PAST 2018!!!" screen that would show up every single time

[hazy dawn]

dialup is a mood

[dreamy rose]

it wasnt terrible, people just go apeshit over 7 too hard.

[full fossil]

I had dial up on windows 10 in 2018

💀

[dawn anchor]

who else has had the trouble of bending back key switch pins

[hazy dawn]

I used to have to shuttle archive parts via floppy while I was in the process of downloading games.

[strange elk]

local grocery store (old job) has shit pcs for their pos system from the XP era that look like they never get cleaned. Well one of these guys caught fire as I was going in sometime recently.

[unkempt widget]

and that is that people praise 7 because 8 was so bad

[full fossil]

I sure hope they don’t discontinue dial up

[strange elk]

I told them when I was working there that wasnt good, I can clean them for you but... yeah. Couple years later here we are

[full fossil]

If fiber goes down then there is literally no other internet option here

[hazy dawn]

I liked 7

[dawn anchor]

i always wondered why there were phone lines on my PCs, because my oldest surviving XP-era motherboards had integrated RJ45 connections.

[dreamy rose]

all the stores running Dogwater hardware

[hazy dawn]

They started introducing the new control panel garbage in 8

[strange elk]

I didnt witness the fire but the computer was pulled from under the belt and I smelled that sweet magic smoke.

[sonic spruce]

What’s better gtx 960 or ryzen 4600g?

[full fossil]

Business laptops have dial up ports still

[strange elk]

This was much worse than most I see nowadays

[hazy dawn]

aol will never die. Broadband is too crummy in the united states

[strange elk]

You mean australia?

[hazy dawn]

That too

[wary summit]

G305 FTW

[dawn anchor]

i have a PCI Ethernet card that can run 400Mb. A joke from 10Gb now, but when you're still living in the barely double digit megabits, it's huge.

[dreamy rose]

i'm p sure some stores still using OS/2 or smth

[hazy dawn]

400Mb is enough to do anything you'd realistically want to for casual use

[strange elk]

How do you even manage that tbh

[hazy dawn]

Your game will download a little slower, and that's about it

[full fossil]

I wonder if they have modems on modern business laptops

They do have usb modems

[dawn anchor]

my dad's work laptop from 2010 didn't have one

[full fossil]

Mine from 2013 has one

[dawn anchor]

i didnt see them as far back as 2005

[sonic spruce]

Certain businesses, mainly state mandated or something like that still have computers that used dial up

They are now phasing them out for Ethernet tho

[full fossil]

My laptop is a tank

[dawn anchor]

my old PCs used dial-up as a PCI addin card

[sonic spruce]

PCI?

[dawn anchor]

pci.

[sonic spruce]

You mean PCI-E?

[full fossil]

Sadly I probably need to get the lite version of windows 11

[unkempt widget]

that's a lot of megabytes

[sonic spruce]

What?

[dreamy rose]

our internet here doesn't even reach 400MB/s. max i've seen is 200

[dawn anchor]

it was 2005 it was a thing, even now asus has it in their workstation ones that have a green pcb

[unkempt widget]

does pci even do that?

[full fossil]

It only has 8 gigs of ddr3

[full fossil]

Custom windows moment

[sonic spruce]

400mbs is still more than what we get

[sonic spruce]

16gb kits cost $23 to $25 usd

[full fossil]

Its motherboard only supports 8 gigs

[sonic spruce]

Damn

[full fossil]

I think

And honestly I would rather go the free route

[sonic spruce]

1066 8gbs must suck

[hazy dawn]

400 Mbps, not 400MB/s

[full fossil]

Not that bad

[sonic spruce]

Compared to what’s today?

[full fossil]

I have a ssd

[dawn anchor]

my game didn't even crash or close, it just disappeared

[sonic spruce]

Dang

[dreamy rose]

same thing.

[full fossil]

Sure its a little slow to start up

[sonic spruce]

Ssds are so much cheaper now

[dreamy rose]

our shits slow in Australia

[full fossil]

But the bottleneck is the cpu most of the time

[hazy dawn]

Well, one is an order of magnitude larger

[dreamy rose]

our internet slow as shit. thats what i'm saying.

[hazy dawn]

Ah

Do you have horrible telco monopolies in Australia?

[dreamy rose]

not to mention the price is just way too much

[full fossil]

I heard canada is worse with mobile networks

[wispy marsh]

I realise I cannot use my motherboard or cooler meant for my 2600 with my 5600X

[full fossil]

Its like only 3 companies

[dreamy rose]

i mean we don't have just 2 providers, but they are all just on just 2 different networks

[tardy terrace]

Would any ISP dorks out there happen to have any good books or knowledgebases on DSL/DOCSIS?

[full fossil]

I feel like the internet would be your best bet

Ironically

[woeful knoll]

are there any good free VPN's for Android?

[heady flicker]

tunnel bear is free until around 500mb

[woeful knoll]

anyone know if Planet VPN is good?

I saw Planet VPN on the google play store

[strange elk]

proton vpn is good right

[woeful knoll]

but is it free?

[tardy terrace]

A free vpn is not a smart idea.

[opaque sky]

yes, the free servers aren't that bad either.
but if you can pay you should

[strange elk]

oh god

[brave lodge]

dog

[opaque sky]

not saying you have to if you want the privacy tho, just usually better to

[brave lodge]

i had a 5 hour flight and dif typing tests the whole time i feel like a gof typing rn

i didnt know how to type prior now I do

[thorny axle]

Now you have 200wpm

[opaque sky]

typing fast is fun

[brave lodge]

not even close

like 50 wpm

[woeful knoll]

Huh, I didn't know I could install this on my smart TV

[unkempt widget]

damn that's sad

[thorny axle]

Tbh, with just maybe a dozen hours you can get to 100

[opaque sky]

lmao why...

[thorny axle]

Just try to learn how to touch type

[unkempt widget]

what is touch type

[thorny axle]

Typing without looking

[unkempt widget]

oh

[thorny axle]

Or at a certain point, without thinking

[hazy dawn]

Well that is an android tv

[unkempt widget]

i mean that's a habit for me tbh

[thorny axle]

You just know where the keys are, and just know what to press from muscle memory

[dull granite]

starminor we need your help

[thorny axle]

Everybody above 100wpm touch types

[tardy terrace]

What, did y'all not have typing class in school??