public-chat

[lucid echo]

Yeah, a lawyer

[vapid smelt]

Ask your parents

[lucid echo]

Ask 👏 your 👏 parents

I'm about to press charges for how awfully you follow instructions

[fossil frost]

you have been told several times, discord isnt the place to ask about this, your parents and a lawyer are... given that you have been told this so many times now and are ignoring it and just reply with some more attention seeking... im inclined to not believe you, and say that you are just some attention seeking child who is making this whole thing up

[lucid echo]

Yep, same, best to not engage beyond this

@fossil frost How is your day going bud

[gilded plinth]

Mondays

[fossil frost]

not bad, been teaching the youngest child how to build rockets in KSP 😄

yourself?

[lucid echo]

Is ksp 2 out yet?

[gilded plinth]

Yup

[lucid echo]

I haven't been following

Is it any good?

[fossil frost]

its early access, first version is terrible. patched version is less terrible

[lucid echo]

Well that's progress

[fossil frost]

everything is 75% done, and then they were forced to release as it was by Take2. so nothing was finished, and the devs got raked over the coals for it

they fixed around 300 bugs in the first patch

[lucid echo]

I'm no stranger to barely functioning incomplete space games

That's a bummer

[lethal pivot]

Yo, currently checking Laptops online and I wonder which laptop is quite good for the area of 300-400€ range

[lucid echo]

Probably a used one, Shizuka

[lethal pivot]

goddammit

[lucid echo]

Yesdammit

What do you need it for?

[lucid echo]

A tale as old as time

[lethal pivot]

Well its just for basic stuff. only needs to be responsible doesnt have to be for gaming or anything

[fossil frost]

there are a few minor to mid sized game braking bugs, but, they can be worked around, it just takes time and consideration to be able to figure it out. new patch is coming in a few weeks which is expected to fix a those game killers

[lucid echo]

Yeah, dodging the game-breaking bugs is half the fun in Star Citizen

Elevators are the game's deadliest boss

[fossil frost]

new players are bitching, but old players of the original sort of just figured it out after the first week and just got on with figuring out how to do stupid stuff 😄

[lucid echo]

Yep sounds about right

I was considering trying it once 2 was out & stable

[fossil frost]

patch 2 or 3 should get it to the point where its not a chore for a new user, future patches will be adding functionality and fixing lesser bugs

[normal cargo]

Game gets slammed for being released broken, I never 😮

[fossil frost]

the DEVS got slammed for being forced to release a broken game by the publisher

[lucid echo]

Relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fji_71hOQs

[normal cargo]

They always do lol, no man's sky is prolly the poster child for it

Essentially the Devs signed a deal with a publisher and the Devs didn't deliver

[fossil frost]

not with KSP2, the devs signed a deal to release later on this year, and then late on last year, they were told "actually, we are gonna go early access in feb, 9 months before you were supposed to do, because it lines up with our financial year"

[normal cargo]

Whatever deal they signed it either stipulated the date could be moved, they bowed to pressure or it didn't exist. Either way, blame can be spread around.

[vapid smelt]

Has a game ever come out bug free?

[spare lintel]

will LTT sell any accessories for steam deck?

[north escarp]

I'm working on unreal and it's just little Ole me with no experience all I can promise is bugs

[normal cargo]

Is early access innit, early access for 50 dollars tho

Oh shit read it wrong

[vapid smelt]

Broke

[lucid echo]

If you only have 82 dollars to your name, you shouldn't be wasting it on expensive merch

[vapid smelt]

Get a job ez fix

[normal cargo]

Payday could be tomorrow 😉

[lucid echo]

Put it in a savings account and don't touch it unless you need it
Or buy robux idgaf

[vapid smelt]

I have 1,360 in cash

I really need to go to the bank

[lucid echo]

If you need it, go for it. You asked if you should, and the answer is no

[vapid smelt]

Get a ltt water bottle

[lucid echo]

At that age and that amount, I'd open a savings account and practice some self control
Also water bottle maybe

[wind pulsar]

Honestly, with that kind of behavior, no wonder you're being sued

'He's 10 because he plays Fortnite', what a joke

[lucid echo]

Lmao

[wind pulsar]

What's your pfp of then

[vapid smelt]

Bro can't spell out you

[wind pulsar]

Idk if someone with this kind of pfp called 'Abraham licking' has a right to judge somebody because of a fucking username and pfp

[lucid echo]

I find it very entertaining when children rip on other children for being children
King of the rats vibe

[wind pulsar]

Especially because the Fortnite logo is literally just a blue background with a fucking F

[lucid echo]

Shitting on other people for their game interests and pfp is a massive self-report

[vapid smelt]

The newest lorax movie came out when you were like 3

2012

I remember seeing it in theaters

[lucid echo]

It's like kids in 2010 with Pulp Fiction pfp's

[graceful burrow]

why would they

they dont even talk about the deck very often

[wind pulsar]

I mean it'd be cool, but there's be no reason to

[vapid smelt]

< massive Dr Seuss fan, I memorized the foot book in the 2nd grade

[lucid echo]

I think they mentioned selling some kinda joystick protector that is compatible with the Deck?

[dull granite]

dr seuss?

you mean lorax?!?

[spare lintel]

why? because it would sell well 🙂

[wind pulsar]

They'd just throw away their money for nothing, since they wouldn't sell really well

[lucid echo]

Technically the bottom of the Backpack laptop area is designed with Deck in mind

[wind pulsar]

They wouldn't, that's the thing

[lucid echo]

So if you wanna be super fucking pedantic, they already have a $250 steam deck accessory

[vapid smelt]

The steam deck is already flooded with after market accessories

[graceful burrow]

there's no kind of accessory they could make that isnt already made

esp not for the price of those other ones

[fossil frost]

loads of 3D printable ones too

[lucid echo]

They're making those magnetic cable organizers, so a flooded market hasn't really stopped them before

[graceful burrow]

ltt is not a manufacturing company

[graceful burrow]

i think that's just a linus pet project

[vapid smelt]

Jsaux has clear backplates with an added heatsink for $30

[lucid echo]

If anything it'd be an accessory compatible with way more than the deck e.g. joystick protectors

[graceful burrow]

been thinking of making my own of those
3d printed joystick immobilizers

[fossil frost]

millionaire swinging his dick a little bit, which i dont begrudge him doing, his money, he can do what he wants with his own money

[lucid echo]

I have some for mine. They work really well. I found ones that don't need a hinge system

[graceful burrow]

i was just gonna use some that use magnets

[vapid smelt]

Comes with all this

[full fossil]

hey Im wondering if any AMD fans could help me do some overclocking

[fossil frost]

#overclocking

[graceful burrow]

#overclocking

[full fossil]

lol thanks

[gilded quest]

I've seen people complain that the fit is bad and the heatsink burns their hands

[vapid smelt]

I've seen people say it pushes it out too far

[gilded quest]

I like the frosted black look tho

I wish valve had done that stock

[full fossil]

Hello guys, will AI generated Gov. documents be able to fool less developed countries systems?

[graceful burrow]

sus ass question

[sonic barn]

Ai out of government plz

[full fossil]

i swear its for education

[sonic barn]

It won't care about us

[lucid echo]

heatsink burns their hands
That seems to be a common trait amongst aftermarket heat dissipation mods
That M1 macbook air video LTT did had the laptop exceeding max safe temps on the bottom

[golden talon]

easily

like 80 bucks

[sonic barn]

70$

[golden talon]

not worth it

[graceful burrow]

it feels like the implication you're making is that less developed countries care less about stuff like document checking
which feels, not right

[sonic barn]

Look at alternatives pricing

[lucid echo]

This is such a tremendously loaded question that is doomed to have shitty half-assed answers

[golden talon]

i can get a bit set at five below which works just as well

[sonic barn]

It's the one thing on the LTT store I believe is undervalued

[graceful burrow]

counterpoint
ifixit kit

[lucid echo]

You should do that then

[golden talon]

i have

[lucid echo]

Great!

The LTT was worth it to me
It's almost like different people have different values of worth

[graceful burrow]

tbf if you think 7 dollar screwdrivers are gonna last you're so horribly wrong it hurts

[golden talon]

been using my pos $8 kit for 6 years

[full fossil]

Let's say i want a Visa to go Zimbabwe, but i dont want to go through all the hassle and what not that comes with the offical way, can a AI generated one get me through

[golden talon]

its a bit rusty but works great

[sonic barn]

I got a Chinese screwdriver kit it's awful

[graceful burrow]

that's a bit racist lol

[lucid echo]

No, AI image generators are infamously bad at text generation

[graceful burrow]

doesnt matter

[lucid echo]

The LTT screwdriver is chinese too lol

[sonic barn]

Ur phone is

[golden talon]

how is that racist

[lucid echo]

Chinese products are as nice as you're willing to pay, its american companies that don't want to pay much for them

[sonic barn]

There's only 1 race

Human race

[wind pulsar]

$80 in NA, will easily exceed a $100 if you ship it overseas

[golden talon]

implying that a product is from a country with subpar manufacturing standards is not racist

nowhere does race have anything to do with it

[lucid echo]

lmao #public-chat never change

[full fossil]

[wind pulsar]

Assuming that a product lacks in quality just because it's made in China is definitely racist

[graceful burrow]

keep politics out man

[graceful burrow]

you too

biden
banning app for political reasons
not political

[wind pulsar]

Mine's not at all linked to politics, lol

[graceful burrow]

????
cognitive dissonance is pretty damn hefty here

[golden talon]

its not racist, because its not putting anything down against a race. its just taking shots at manufacturing standards that take place in said country

[wind pulsar]

Nobody cares, lol

[graceful burrow]

dont care, politics are cringe go away

[lucid echo]

Who's gonna @Mod first

[wind pulsar]

You should be able to explain why it's linked to politics then, lol

[lucid echo]

Taking bets 🎟️

[languid cipher]

out of curiosity, why is it racist?

[graceful burrow]

that wasnt towards you

that was an extension of my previous comment

[wind pulsar]

WHY. PING ME THEN.

[vapid smelt]

Rock paper scissors?

[wind pulsar]

sdhfgkuuldss;jopop'dfs

[graceful burrow]

i didnt for that

open your eyes akira come on

[full fossil]

🍿this will be fun.

[graceful burrow]

nah me and akira are pals

im just pokin fun at them

[golden talon]

rock

[wind pulsar]

I'm genetically blind, what are you on about

[graceful burrow]

me too

[wind pulsar]

Gun

[full fossil]

Juice

[vapid smelt]

But you can't have any

[golden talon]

💀

[wind pulsar]

Who says that I don't have a licence

[gilded quest]

when they modded it, right?

[golden talon]

yeah

[vapid smelt]

Forgot y'all have professional gun tournaments

[golden talon]

they legally cannot have it exceed that temp otherwise

thinking of modding my M2

[wind pulsar]

I mean yes, but I don't have a licence

I have a licence for my swords, but not for guns

[full fossil]

Can ai print me someone money

[graceful burrow]

uesless question
next

[golden talon]

in the future maybe

[vapid smelt]

You need a license for swords?!

[gilded quest]

put an M1 in it

[full fossil]

dk maybe try

[graceful burrow]

in japan yeah

[wind pulsar]

In Japan, yes

[vapid smelt]

Lame sauce

[golden talon]

who said i was talking about the laptop

[full fossil]

Bet ☝️☝️☝️

[gilded quest]

oh that M2

'98 corolla better /s

[gentle slate]

i3 looks interesting on linux

[wind pulsar]

For any blades 6 inches or longer, mhm

[gentle slate]

just hide it

[gilded quest]

lol coopa doesn't know what 6 inches looks like

[gentle slate]

[golden talon]

i miss my 99 rolla

poor thing was totalled in an accident

[gilded quest]

I had a 95 taurus and 96 or 97 ES300

[golden talon]

old lexus holy shit

[vapid smelt]

But we have 8 inch kitchen blades....

[gilded quest]

the AC was soooooo good

[graceful burrow]

you do

[wind pulsar]

Yk that your life is effectively ruined the moment it is made public that you've been caught hiding a sword

[golden talon]

those old denso AC compressors were op

[wind pulsar]

I mean yeah, but that doesn't really apply to kitchen utensils

[graceful burrow]

i dont see yen there

[full fossil]

Juice?

[vapid smelt]

Fake money

[graceful burrow]

if that's aus or cad then ye

[full fossil]

hehe.

[golden talon]

i invested some of my yen into crypto

most of it*

not that i have a lot at all

[wind pulsar]

Funfact btw; the Gun and Sword law also only allows you to have native swords

Foreign swords are automatically illegal, no matter what it is

[vapid smelt]

Y'all have interesting laws

[golden talon]

i got some $700 japanese imported sword in my house

bought it at disney world

[wind pulsar]

I know right? Always interesting to see where Japans priorities are

[wind pulsar]

Want to kill pigeons? Oh well, that's a fine

[lucid echo]

Just let us import real wasabi gosh darnit

[golden talon]

the amount of random stuff i got imported from japan is crazy

[wind pulsar]

Funfact btw

[golden talon]

everything from strawberry flavored kitkat to hatasoda

[wind pulsar]

It is legal to trash Japanese flags

But it is illegal to destroy any kind of foreign national flag

[vapid smelt]

My edc knife is illegal in Japan

[wind pulsar]

Yk what law I love the most

[vapid smelt]

What?

[wind pulsar]

Minus the moderator things that only apply to Discord? This rule applies in Japanese law as well

It's literally illegal to beg in Japan lmao

*on the internet, mind you

[vapid smelt]

Is that why homeless people in Japan try to hide that they are homeless and hide in the shadows?

[wind pulsar]

I honestly don't know, as far as I know, that law only applies for begging on the internet

Counts as a misdemeanor

[vapid smelt]

Hmm

[sonic barn]

me tree

[graceful burrow]

didnt ask

[sonic barn]

I did

[golden talon]

how is the japanese government gonna know if im begging for nitro on discord

[wind pulsar]

Scissors longer than 8cm are also illegal btw

[vapid smelt]

How the fuck would they inforce that rule for the internet

[wind pulsar]

Clearly they can know, since there were people punished for it

[lucid echo]

Sounds like one of those laws that only exists in order to exercise when someone's being especially awful with it

[wind pulsar]

Pretty much, yes

[lucid echo]

Like disturbing the peace

[vapid smelt]

That's so small

[wind pulsar]

Also just checked, begging in general is illegal, yes

Can get you a day detention or a maximum fine of ￥10,000

[lucid echo]

Classic solution to homelessness - Just make it illegal to be it

[golden talon]

thats actually smart

[lucid echo]

Learned from the americans, it seems

[gilded quest]

american policy in a nutshell

[golden talon]

then the homeless people can have a home in jail

[vapid smelt]

These scissors I bought my mom are illegal in Japan?! https://a.co/d/0gfb8wb

[wind pulsar]

Yes, those fall under the Gun and Swords law

I have no reason why, but they just do

[unkempt edge]

Hello

[golden talon]

what about gravity knives

balisongs etc.

[vapid smelt]

Utah has like no knife laws

[wind pulsar]

Every knife with a blade longer than 3.125 inches or so are banned

[lucid echo]

They have no wife laws too

[vapid smelt]

0 laws

[sonic barn]

you can carry a crossbow in canada

[vapid smelt]

I can carry boom sticks

[wind pulsar]

Also hilarious; taking out your trash bin for the trashmen to pick it up the night before? Illegal

Giving your neighbor misaddressed mail? Illegal

[tender geyser]

What

[vapid smelt]

Every American would go to jail

[golden talon]

🤤

[lucid echo]

Gotta maintain our record for the most prisoners per capita in human history

[wind pulsar]

That law actually makes sense if you know the context though ngl

They don't want racoons going through the trash and spreading it everywhere

[golden talon]

would make sense if raccoons were a common wild animal there

it might be idk

[vapid smelt]

That's what boom sticks and dogs are for

[wind pulsar]

They are, really

[lucid echo]

Meanwhile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp26_oc4CA&t=164s

[wind pulsar]

Racoons are FEARLESS

They don't give a single shit

[graceful burrow]

They're cute
Little sneakers

[golden talon]

a raccoon got stuck inside my car’s intercooler vents once

[wind pulsar]

Agree

[vapid smelt]

This POS pissed on me when I moved him to my car

[golden talon]

probably died on impact but it was annoying as hell to get out

hated them since

[graceful burrow]

Adorable

[wind pulsar]

Just checked to be sure, they're invasive enough that they're legally considered pests

[finite cloud]

And California is like “NOOOO YOUR BLADE IS 1 INCH TOO LONG”

[wind pulsar]

So yes, racoons are a big problem

[sonic barn]

mine's slightly bigger than average

[golden talon]

are you allowed to kill them legally

[wind pulsar]

There's ONE more crazy law, but that one is really dark and fucked up so I won't state that here

[finite cloud]

Wait so you’re expected to rush it out in the morning when you wake up?

[vapid smelt]

Meanwhile Utah

[finite cloud]

Yeah you’d go to jail carrying that here lol

[wind pulsar]

Yes

[finite cloud]

Damn. Those guys come at like 6-8am here

[wind pulsar]

Well you take the trash out when you wake up anyway, so it's not really rush it out

[vapid smelt]

What if you work night shifts

[golden talon]

i wake up at like 3 pm that’s an issue for me

[wind pulsar]

Not their problem is it

[graceful burrow]

No but it does feel like a "fuck you" to anyone who doesn't work a normal schedule

[wind pulsar]

I don't know that actually, but the government has desperately tried doing so before

[wind pulsar]

Japan in itself is a major 'fuck you' to society

[graceful burrow]

True

[golden talon]

japanese car meets look so fun

tokyo car meets are bussing with supercars

[sonic barn]

japan hides their warcrimes

[lucid echo]

jesus christ

[vapid smelt]

Who doesn't

[gentle slate]

Why are window bars almost always extremely thick?

[wind pulsar]

So does China and Korea, what about it

[vapid smelt]

Like glass windows?

[sonic barn]

russia

[gentle slate]

Are there no good DEs that look nice out of the box

[sonic barn]

they bragged about it during ww2

[gentle slate]

Sheeeesh

[finite cloud]

KDE Plasma

[lucid echo]

Zorin is very slick but based on old ubuntu

[gentle slate]

Also looks meh.

[finite cloud]

It looks good to me

[lucid echo]

Zorin had the one DE where I couldn't decide which preset to use because they all looked so nice

[gentle slate]

Can't login into disc rn but

[finite cloud]

Looks like it also uses plasma

[gentle slate]

What's up with the thick bar on top?

[lucid echo]

Pretty sure it's gnome

[gentle slate]

Oh ffs they removed perms as well. Can't have anything here.

[lucid echo]

Huh?

[vapid smelt]

[gentle slate]

Once upon a time in a land far away, everybody could upload an image.

[lucid echo]

That's been like well over a year ago

[finite cloud]

But if you think KDE Plasma doesn’t look good then uh I’m afraid of what you think of windows

[gentle slate]

Thats when I last chatted here often.

[finite cloud]

Ah yes, the Madison Era

[lucid echo]

Other channels let you upload images, #public-chat is the special problem child

There's #screenshots specifically for what you need

[vapid smelt]

Or any other channel

[lucid echo]

Yep

[gentle slate]

#screenshots message

Why must the top bar be so thicc? It's humongous

Doesn't seem to have an option to toggle the title bar off either. Same thing on gnome.

[lucid echo]

It's not OOB but Gnome Tweaks can address that I'm pretty sure

[gentle slate]

And in general everyrhing just seems huge even when properly scaled.

Massive icons

Gnome tweaks huh. Back to gnome then

Actually no the top taskbar thing of gnome feels terrible.

[wind pulsar]

I'm green and can post images anyways, hah

[lucid echo]

By default yes

[finite cloud]

I haven’t figured out how to fix that. Some apps don’t have it

[stoic beacon]

That Zorin one does look beautiful, wow

[gentle slate]

Might be a DE issue as well. Guess I'm aiming for super minimal

Clean but minimal yk

[stoic beacon]

Usually when looking for "nice UI" Linux stuff, I only ever find people recommending Elementary and Pop

[lucid echo]

Zorin is the closest to a pristine, seamless interface that I've come across in linux world

[stoic beacon]

I'm still hopeful that more of the programs I use on a daily basis get Linux versions at some point. Windows has been frustrating me more and more with every update.

Still nowhere near MacOS frustration, but it's getting there.

I'll keep Zorin in the back of my mind for that day

[lucid echo]

Two core issues is the settings/config are very dumbed down and it's based on an old Ubunto release, which wasn't an issue for me until I came across some funky compatibility issues with Nvidia, CUDA, Docker, and Tensorflow

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, compatibility strikes again

Still, it's nice that there's somebody out there pointing out the fact that OSes don't have to look like garbage to be functional

[onyx heath]

what can you even do with .5 mbps

[vapid smelt]

Suffer

[stoic beacon]

MSPaint

Pretty sure 3D Pinball - Space Cadet is small, you can download that

[onyx heath]

sadly im on a macbook

[lucid echo]

You're doing it now

[stoic beacon]

On a MacBook with .5mbps, you can continue to use Discord I guess

[onyx heath]

you can actually still get that?!

[stoic beacon]

Not sure. Found it in one spot, but it looks sketchy.

[onyx heath]

cause it would be cool to be able to play 3d pinball again

apparently 3d pinball has a "magnet mode"

[gentle slate]

ye doesnt seem to be a way to fix

closest you can get is removing the entire titlebar alongside the buttons

[lean ruin]

[prime oar]

Whoever did that edit for the De-Lidding Video about the heavy duty chiller Flashback was

[young root]

i just made mexican corn with canned corn and it's fire

i used an entire parmesan cheese container sized thing of cojita cheese

[snow thorn]

Can I get some opinions/suggestions on my setup https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1087402803774894091

[young root]

mid

[idle nymph]

Awesome

[young root]

it's just my taste really. it kinda fucks with how much effort you've put into it but i prefer monitors being side by side not stacked

[vapid smelt]

Too much rgb

[snow thorn]

there is none?

[vapid smelt]

I see red fans

[idle nymph]

There is no rgb

[snow thorn]

its orange

[idle nymph]

Do basically you dont like Monitor = entire Set up is mid

[vapid smelt]

Didn't know he was using black and white monitors

[snow thorn]

and warm white inside the pc

[snow thorn]

i literally dont have room to have them side by side

[young root]

i'm aware

[snow thorn]

and a lot of the people who complain about stacked have never tried it or tried it correctly

[idle nymph]

Onr Day my set up will look golf

Good

Not Golf lmao

[young root]

my setup has been finished for a while

[wind pulsar]

It's fine, it's probably the books on the shelves, a lot of gamers immediately piss their pants as soon as they see something intellectual

[young root]

i have no way to improve other than higher resolution monitors

[idle nymph]

My set up still look pretty Bad, maybe ill get an ultra wide Monitor one day

But Overall even my room look Bad

Ill prolly paint my desk blue and add some shelves

But idk shit about painting

[vapid smelt]

I moved my pc to the floor but it's on a wood step stool

Having room is a great thing

The toy on my case is a anti cat device™️

[wind pulsar]

You're a disappointment

How dare you not have at least 6 monitors

[idle nymph]

How do yall make your set up look good?

[vapid smelt]

I could upgrade to 6 with the PC off the desk now

[wind pulsar]

Get it:

Effort

[tepid bolt]

Less is more

[wind pulsar]

Btw

[idle nymph]

I tried and in the end is still look Bad

[wind pulsar]

If you tried and it didn't work out for you, that means you didn't try hard enough

You probably only focused on your actual build instead of the surrounding of the build

[fossil frost]

just keep the space tidy and useful and styled to what you want, and it will sort it self out

[idle nymph]

I did try enough

But i Lack the materials

[vapid smelt]

I don't try i could care less how it looks

[idle nymph]

And the skill

[wind pulsar]

Which one as a pfp?

[idle nymph]

Hmmm

[vapid smelt]

2

[idle nymph]

I dont have a style idea, ill go for blue

[wind pulsar]

I mean, what do you think are tutorials for

[manic torrent]

hundreds of hours. thousands of dollars

[keen shore]

r/amd discord server is a ghost town

[vapid smelt]

1st one is too dark you can't see her to well

[stoic beacon]

I don't. I make it functional.

[idle nymph]

Im to broke then i guess

[wind pulsar]

That's what I thought as well, that's why I made the second one in the first place

[stoic beacon]

What is that device on the right?

[idle nymph]

Is there a tutorial to summon paint and shelve out of. No where

[manic torrent]

you can do it with much less

[manic torrent]

a behringer x touch one with a custom mounted 9" touchscreen

[wind pulsar]

There's dozens of tutorials how to build shelves and paint things, yeah

[idle nymph]

I need to find blue Fan and make my desk blue

[keen shore]

There were 5 messages written in r/amd server on the 12th of this month

[stoic beacon]

What are you painting? A flat piece of plywood looks just fine, cut to a rectangle and bolted to a pair of desk legs that cost $50~

[vapid smelt]

Is it made of real wood?

[idle nymph]

I dont have paint

[wind pulsar]

Then get paint

[idle nymph]

My desk

[stoic beacon]

Do you have Walmart in your area? Walmart is a place where you can get paint

[idle nymph]

No

[idle nymph]

Nope

[vapid smelt]

Your local dump would have paint for cheap

[stoic beacon]

Do you have a store near you?

[wind pulsar]

I don't understand human mentality, especially in this example

• I wanna do build shelf and paint and make my setup look good
• I don't have paint
• Gives up immediately

[stoic beacon]

That's what Discord is for. It makes you angry, but also makes you feel better about your own struggles.

[idle nymph]

Ikea? So i can also get shelve

[fossil frost]

guy is attention seeking, its clear as day, describing a problem, but shooting down any possible option to get people to continue giving options and speaking to them

[stoic beacon]

No, I meant a store where you can buy paint to paint your desk blue.

[idle nymph]

I dont have paint, i dont have car, i cant go get paint

[vapid smelt]

I dont understand humans, especially women

[idle nymph]

I dont know imma look it up

[median idol]

1000% this.

[stoic beacon]

You don't have car? Is there anything within walking distance?

[wind pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[idle nymph]

Woman scare me

[stoic beacon]

I'd be scared of women too if I couldn't paint a desk

[vapid smelt]

Do you have working legs?

[idle nymph]

Sadly no, i live in czmpaign, but id look if i have some paint on m'y basement

[idle nymph]

A girl German suplexed me when i was a kid

[fossil frost]

as i said... attention seeking liar 🙂

[idle nymph]

What

[wind pulsar]

That sums it up

[vapid smelt]

Walking, biking, Uber, rent a scooter

[median idol]

Walking supremacy

[slate wing]

boo

[vapid smelt]

Order paint online and have it shipped to you

[idle nymph]

Wait thats smart

[wind pulsar]

Again, ridiculous

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, if you need transportation in order to get stuff to upgrade your gaming setup, I would prioritize the saving $ for transportation over blowing money on making your fap platform blue.

[idle nymph]

Whats good paint for some random ikea desk?

[wind pulsar]

• I wanna do this cool thing
• But I don't have crucial thing needed for it
• Gives up immediately

[stoic beacon]

I hear blue paint is good

[idle nymph]

Im 14,i aint getting car soon

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/tried-nothing-flanders-out-of-gif-9662944

[vapid smelt]

Dont put lipstick on a pig

[fossil frost]

https://www.google.com/search?q=paint+for+ikea+desk feel free to type the same crap you type in discord, into google, you will get answers

stop attention seeking and do something else

[stoic beacon]

Nah Biz, figured it out, he's a 14 year old whose parents bought him a gaming rig...no hope remains.

[manic torrent]

When I was 14 I had a 486 and a CRT and damnit, I was happy!

[wind pulsar]

We get it old man

[manic torrent]

(spoiler alert: ... I am not sure I was happy it's all a bit vague tbh)

[slate wing]

You had good games

[lucid echo]

kids these days be doing things

[vapid smelt]

When I was 14 I also had a crt

[wind pulsar]

I had a CRT when I was 8 or something

[idle nymph]

What did i fucking do to get called allat, i know im loser, and a kid but i just want some fucking help

[median idol]

I was using Windows XP when I was 14

[fossil frost]

i had an amd k6-2 500 at 14 😄

[stoic beacon]

Scroll up and you'll figure it out, I think

[vapid smelt]

Then I downgraded to a basic 1080p 60hz monitor 😢

[wind pulsar]

1080i CRT > 1080p LCD, YUCK

[median idol]

First computer had a K6-2 with Windows 95 🥲

[idle nymph]

I still dont understand

[wind pulsar]

Ignore the guy, he's not much better than what he accuses you of

[full fossil]

Can somebody help me with razer axon my wallpapers are funning at 10 fps

[stoic beacon]

Isn't it amazing how flat screen monitors blew us all away initially due to the form factor? But now looking back, it has changed so much

[manic torrent]

if you don't have money, you need time, ability, and drive. You can variously exchange around most of these for each other, depending on a bunch of factors.

[fossil frost]

family had the intel mmx 233mhz before that, but the k6-2 500 was my own

[slate wing]

use wallpaper engine

[manic torrent]

what? My wallpaper runs at 1 fph

[wind pulsar]

I mean if you're 14, consulting the parents would be an interesting and innovative idea

[idle nymph]

Thanks for the heads up

[full fossil]

?

[full fossil]

i dont have the money and i pretty much like this one

[lucid echo]

Google your simple questions
Find out the material of your furniture on google
Figure out what paint works well with that material on google
Figure out how to use that paint on google

[stoic beacon]

He's saying he uses static wallpapers that change every 1 hour.

[manic torrent]

parents don't know anything, you should know that 🙂

[median idol]

Oh no shit I actually have a Pentium MMX 233 rig downstairs in the basement. I do mess around on it from time to time

[full fossil]

yeah but im using live ones that use to run fine and now are running like 4 fps

[idle nymph]

I think ill just go back to my father help and stop annoying people

[wind pulsar]

I mean, when it comes to carpenting and painting, the likelihood of them knowing shit is actually pretty high

[stoic beacon]

Not sure what to tell you. I think the industry standard is wallpaper engine for a reason. Razer tends to make garbage

[slate wing]

my guy its 4 USD

[manic torrent]

I am a parent....

[idle nymph]

My father helped me build my pc, im sûre hell understand

[stoic beacon]

I REALLY don't think that has been the case in a long time.

[slate wing]

All Razer software is shit.

[full fossil]

i heard there are wallpapers u have to pay within the engine

[wind pulsar]

Literally every single parent neighbor I know has at least two tablesaws

[manic torrent]

most people are NPCs

[full fossil]

what do you think could slow it down

[wind pulsar]

This can't be a coincidence

[stoic beacon]

Razer

[manic torrent]

because you live in the suburbs

[slate wing]

Never seen that before and or you could prob find a free version on the steam workshop

[stoic beacon]

In the suburbs. The majority of the population lives in apartments where everything is done for you.

Also, having two tablesaws does not mean you use them. I know lots of people with stuff they don't use

[fossil frost]

people who appear to know stuff, are figuring it out as they go, they just started earlier than you did, so they appear to know more than you, they are still figuring it out as they go along though

[manic torrent]

oh, I know nothing, I'm just not afraid to have a go

[wind pulsar]

I really don't, I live more or less in the middle of the city

[idle nymph]

Or in campains

[wind pulsar]

Because yuck, if I don't have a 7/11 near me I will have thirty strokes

[fossil frost]

fear of failure is what puts people off trying, rather than accepting that failure is a thing and something to be learned from

[manic torrent]

... I live in the suburbs .... we still have a 7/11.

[stoic beacon]

Nearest 7-eleven to me is roughly 13 hours away

[manic torrent]

haha, I have failed so much with this crane, but I'm getting there.

[stoic beacon]

Might just go have a stroke, I guess

[median idol]

Also in the suburbs. My 7/11 is walking distance and I do go there weekly

[idle nymph]

Is 7 eleven in america only '

[manic torrent]

mine is a little far for walking, but yeah

[manic torrent]

I am in australia.

[idle nymph]

Oh

[tired glade]

World wide, especially in Asia

[fossil frost]

my most recent failure is that i failed making a quadruped robot... because i figured out that a walking robot with 4 legs is hard... so i made it have 6 legs and learned that a 6 legged bot is super easy 😄

[idle nymph]

I wish i had a 7 eleven to hang out whit friend

[wind pulsar]

Anyway, I don't live in the suburbs, I'm more or less in the city center

[manic torrent]

oh wow, absolutely yes. you need 6 legs for stability. 4 legs you have to do the weird stampy thing

[stoic beacon]

Surprised everybody in the city center owns two tablesaws, that's wild

[wind pulsar]

I don't have a 7/11 near me either but a Familymart, but Familymart is literally the same thing

[manic torrent]

What "city" is that, because in the city center here that's basically not possible

[wind pulsar]

Sapporo

[mossy pelican]

this server is kewl

[jaunty compass]

I got two cases for $30 locally
Pog

[slate wing]

facts

[wind pulsar]

That was obviously an exaggeration lmao

But I constantly hear powertools, especially in the morning, pisses me off

[jaunty compass]

They're budget rosewill cases but they're quite clean and have never been used

[stoic beacon]

I would recommend against doing that, as it removes credibility, rapidly.

[wind pulsar]

Don't talk to me then, I don't need your credibility 🤷

[manic torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapporo#/media/File:SapporoCity_CBD.jpg

[full fossil]

its after i updated my gpu drivers before that it ran totally fine

[vapid smelt]

What the hell a population of 2million?!

[idle nymph]

Ngl i should learn basic carpentry skill From my grzndpa and dzd

[idle nymph]

Japan

[full fossil]

i meant like u have to pay some wallpapers

[stoic beacon]

You asked me what could cause it, but you already had a reason? You can just roll back your GPU drivers

[wind pulsar]

That's not a lot by Japanese standards lmao

[old shale]

Japan/Korea/Singapore Combinis are so good

[wind pulsar]

Tokyo has 30+ million

[stoic beacon]

Which is why I never listen to what you say in here anyways, it's just hard to watch

[slate wing]

rolling back gpu drivers lol

[manic torrent]

I subscribe to digital blasphemy for wallpapers

[full fossil]

rolled it back it didnt work

[fossil frost]

just scrolling through facebook market place at the minute to see what stolen stuff that the local crackheads are selling :D, and i see a lot of girls selling very very skanky dresses "only used once"... and all i could think is that nobody should ever buy those dresses because they are likely covered in gentleman juice

[stoic beacon]

Not sure then. You could try #1027757333117415424 or contacting Razer

[wind pulsar]

Congratulations, you seemingly like wasting your time talking to me then lmao

[slate wing]

yes and im saying ive legit never seen it / is a non issue

[vapid smelt]

My whole state is 3.5

[manic torrent]

all razor software is crapware and should be set on fire 😦

[full fossil]

thats good so 4 bucks for every live wallpaper there is on the program?

[stoic beacon]

I've never seen Wallpaper Engine charge for wallpapers, and since far more people use it than the weird Razer crap, you're more likely to have a functioning piece of software.

Or just use static wallpapers, since you don't just sit there and stare at wallpapers all day anyways.

[slate wing]

the steam workshop is free my guy

[manic torrent]

wtf do you live again?

[vapid smelt]

Utah

[slate wing]

have you never used steam before?

[old shale]

same with Corsair tho

[full fossil]

does it hurt performance tho

[stoic beacon]

Mine is 1.9 million

[manic torrent]

not even close.

[vapid smelt]

Mormon headquarters

[jaunty compass]

The cases were listed at $50 for both but I haggled him down to $30 because they hadn't sold in 11 weeks

[stoic beacon]

Yes, just like the Razer one

[full fossil]

i dont think razer one takes performance

[jaunty compass]

This is what I like to call

Haggling

[manic torrent]

corsair software is shit, it's just less shit than others which are awful

[fossil frost]

were they covered in gentleman juice?

[full fossil]

i tested fps and its just about the same

[stoic beacon]

If it's playing video footage, it takes performance.

[jaunty compass]

Luckily no; the cases were never even used by the looks of it

[slate wing]

I think you mean from all hardware vendors.

[median idol]

I live in the great lake state. Where we were shitting on Ohio before the cool kids were started doing it

[jaunty compass]

The board standoffs aren't even scratched

[old shale]

3.3m only in madrid city over here

[stoic beacon]

Uninstall the Razer garbage, buy Wallpaper Engine, and download all the free live wallpapers you want

[full fossil]

i havent notice tho

[manic torrent]

more or less - but razer stands out as awful even among those

[stoic beacon]

Then you won't notice with wallpaper engine.

[jaunty compass]

People get desperate once something has been up for weeks without selling, so you always gotta haggle

[stoic beacon]

Razer is head and heels above the others in terms of their software being horrendous.

[manic torrent]

do you? often I just buy it at the price it is, or make an offer take it or leave it

[wind pulsar]

People would be pissed if they charged for using Wallpapers after you already pay money for the software, especially considering 99.99% of wallpapers are made by the community

[full fossil]

Another mindblowing problem i have is when i play overwatch one of my 2 side monitors turn off

[stoic beacon]

Mhm, Phanthom just heard somewhere that they charge for each wallpaper, and I think that's where the confusion is coming from

[jaunty compass]

Well, buying things off of sites like that (and selling them on sites like that) haggling is part of the process

[fossil frost]

hmmn.. facebook marketplace... "midrange gaming pc - i5 8500, gtx1080, 16gb ram, 256gb ssd".... £600.... not worth anywhere close to that...

[stoic beacon]

Only with OW?

[vapid smelt]

$250 take it or leave it

[full fossil]

Only

havent noticed that in any other game

[manic torrent]

I use displayfusion, which integrates with digitalblasphemy to download backgrounds - it also scales them and adjusts them to suit my three screens with different DPIs

[fossil frost]

i was considering just sening them a message to say "nah, its worth about half that at best"

[wind pulsar]

Man, took you like 10 minutes to break what you said earlier

[full fossil]

or without games since my pc is on 24/7

[jaunty compass]

People think their stuff is worth a lot more than it is, or at least try to get more than they think they will with asking prices

If you don't haggle on things like that you're screwing yourself over

You have to negotiate when it comes to buying things off of marketplaces

[stoic beacon]

No, I said I don't listen to you, not that I won't talk to you...just because you have a lot of objectively bad takes doesn't mean I won't communicate with you

[slate wing]

MFW the LTT server is not talking about LTT like always

[jaunty compass]

My offers are pretty fair anyway

[wind pulsar]

I honestly have zero idea how you merge it, I know it's possible in Wallpaper Engine, but that's it

[stoic beacon]

Are we just supposed to talk about only LMG related stuff all day long? Is tech off limits?...

[jaunty compass]

I only really go for asking when it's a really good asking price

But the problem with that is when the asking price is really good it usually gets snatched up fast

[wind pulsar]

This chat is effectively used as an off-topic chat anyway, I don't even know why that channel still exists

[full fossil]

could anybody help me with this

[stoic beacon]

#1027757333117415424

[slate wing]

Thats what it sounds like tho but i dunno and dont give a shit about it

The chat for all things related.
If it's not related to this topic, it doesn't belong here.

Teaching rocks with arcane runes inscribed on them to think was a mistake

[spare sky]

Hey i domt know if any of you live in the uk if so what would be the best place to find old pcs

Like 4th gen optiplexes or smth to be used as a server

[fossil frost]

ebay

[gentle slate]

Oh boy, managing apps across several HDDs seems to be a chore on linux

[wind pulsar]

At least you're not openly admitting to harassing me for what they think are 'bad takes', so that's fine

[gentle slate]

yk im beginning to regret wiping Windows now.

[vapid smelt]

Are you a data hoarder?

[gentle slate]

nah. My SSD is just small. I keep certain apps on it (needy games, apps I want to be snappy) and the rest goes to my HDD

[spare sky]

Ye ik just feel their should be like old e waste centres like linus geos to in the scrap yard wars

[fossil frost]

there arent

[gentle slate]

but it seems like Linux doesnt like that. At least it seems tricky from what im reading

[manic torrent]

uhhh wtf do you need multiple hdds for 'apps'

[slate wing]

yeah lol

[gentle slate]

I have an SSD and an HDD

and they both get used

[manic torrent]

if you are using a hdd for apps, then you're doing it wrong

[full fossil]

wont post

[vapid smelt]

2tb ssds are as cheap as $75 now

[slate wing]

the only thing i can think of is steam games and in that case you can do that on linux just fine

[full fossil]

payed 150 a month ago

[gentle slate]

not in commieland. We're scalped to shit on any hardware

[vapid smelt]

Oh your in ru?

[gentle slate]

mini russia one could say

[fossil frost]

just bought a 256gb for £12, and a usb3 enclosure for £8, because it was cheaper than a 256gb flash drive 😄

[gentle slate]

Bulgaria.

[slate wing]

@stoic beacon For why the hell they want shit on stuff besides their root drive

[spare sky]

Tbh a tip would be a great place for old ewaste just they dont like it if you take stuff but they usally will if you give them some cash

[slate wing]

@gentle slate What exactly are you trying to do rn?

[gentle slate]

trying to educate myself while waiting on the install

[slate wing]

fancy, what distro?

[gentle slate]

Fedora

[vapid smelt]

Oh fun a black sea country

[gentle slate]

oh wtf its complete. this was quick.

[slate wing]

ew fucking fedora

[fossil frost]

you have to literally stand there and wait all day to see if somebody drops anything off, and then fight the people who work there... had one of the workers go mad at me once for "throwing a pc in to metal recycling, its a computer, it need to go in appliances"... when in fact... it was a completely empty case

[slate wing]

you wont have hardware decode on fedora if you have a AMD gpu

[spare sky]

Lmao

[gentle slate]

[spare sky]

Ye they are angry buggars

[gentle slate]

why?

[manic torrent]

.. what? why wouldn't you.

[gentle slate]

I thought all of linux plays nice with AMD

[manic torrent]

unless you mean that you need to download the drm blob, which ok, whatever

[slate wing]

because they disabled it in mesa drivers because of non existent licensing issues

[stoic beacon]

There are additional steps sometimes, just like with Windows, but there are workarounds

[manic torrent]

I mean honestly that's on you for using fedora

[gentle slate]

what else is there to use

[slate wing]

unless you use amds own inferior drivers you wont have it, period. unless you use a build from another distro or build it yourself

[spare sky]

80 pound for a optiplex

[stoic beacon]

Ubuntu, Mint, Pop, Elementary, Zorin (which I recently learned of)

[slate wing]

arch

[vapid smelt]

That heavy

[gentle slate]

wack wack wack wack wack

[manic torrent]

you're telling me nobody has drop in fixes?

[spare sky]

Ye shoukd be like 20

[stoic beacon]

Granted, some of those are basically the same, but Fedora is a VERY low pick for Linux.

[gentle slate]

ngl all I want is a clean OS that I can tweak to my liking. I've installed arch before and it was kewl. but cba to set it up again

[fossil frost]

yeah, i bought a 7th gen i5 based system just before xmas, bumped the ram to 16gb, and added an rx 480 for my son, and he uses it to play all sorts of games on it now (mostly esports titles)

[slate wing]

nope, the drivers literally dont build with hardware decode support

[spare sky]

Looking for 4th-6th gen with 4 slots of memory ddr3 or ddr4

[manic torrent]

https://github.com/CosmicFusion/fedora-amdgpu-pro

[gentle slate]

last time I installed Ubuntu it felt like bloat central

[vapid smelt]

I thought only hipsters use Fedora

[spare sky]

Ye but its going to be a server

[fossil frost]

i use a 6th gen i7 for my server 🙂

[spare sky]

Ye

[stoic beacon]

Nah, screw Arch, it's a pointless pain in the butt unless you want to fight your PC. What about Ubuntu felt bloaty? There's not much on it to begin with, and there's nothing you can't remove

[slate wing]

Thats the amdgpu drivers which are inferior to mesa

[spare sky]

But i found a good deal on a server

[gentle slate]

something something 2000 pkgs

[vapid smelt]

Don't those have vulnerabilities?

[idle nymph]

Why do everybody here has à Server?

[slate wing]

the vanila arch installer sucks ass but besides that its one of the best distros

[gentle slate]

this is nerd central

[manic torrent]

mesa is a GL library, not a GPU driver

[vapid smelt]

They are data hoarders

[spare sky]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255834233382?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=CjwKCAjwiOCgBhAgEiwAjv5whO6v4aEkvDz5UCmshYqn_7TC2EqFOECzpYOB0yp2QnkAJruXZgG2MRoCHAMQAvD_BwE @fossil frost insane deal right?

[fossil frost]

yeah, so you have to use a linux kernel that has the mitigations built into it... you can CHOOSE to turn them off, but i cant be arsed

[idle nymph]

Ok

[manic torrent]

because if I ran everything on my desktop, every time I did dumb shit and it crashed my house wouldn't work

[gilded crane]

Guys is there a bug where windows 11 says local security authority protection is off?

[stoic beacon]

Just.....turn it on and restart your PC

[gentle slate]

ok on the flipside, if I decide to return to windows, I'll have more than 5GB available on my SSD>

coz it got nuked

[slate wing]

it is a full on gpu driver as it implements hardware video encoder/decode as well as all the graphics apis on linux aka opengl and vulkan

[fossil frost]

https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/

[stoic beacon]

You need to ask yourself what you want to use your PC for FIRST before deciding on an operating system

[slate wing]

steam and whatnot will bitch about not having amds drivers but you dont need them anymore

[gilded crane]

I can't windows security says standard hardware security not supported

[gentle slate]

to not have garbage tier driver issues

[gilded crane]

and the UI is broken

[idle nymph]

Ok

[spare sky]

K ill have a look

[stoic beacon]

Then you need to use Windows, for the most part. If you want the least amount of driver issues, that's where you go. Unless MacOS is also an option

[gentle slate]

AMD drivers on Windows are ass tho

[idle nymph]

Btw i just found an ssd i dont even know what it mean but there is 6gb/s on it what do this mean?

[stoic beacon]

Trust me, they're even worse on Linux.

[idle nymph]

How so?

[slate wing]

thats plain wrong. Intel and amd drivers on linux are the golden standard

[gentle slate]

latest drivers have issues with rendering on certain clients on MC, downgrade a bit and it has massive stuttering on MC, downgrade more and then you need to fight windows autoupdating shit

[fossil frost]

where i used to work was too cheap to pay for cloud hosting for both the main SaaS system AND staging servers... but they were happy to buy a bunch of servers from those guys, install them in a rack downstairs, and have me set them all up to run everything the same as if it was in the cloud... worked out more expensive to run our own hardware 😄

[gentle slate]

Should be disabled. Worked fine. The next day, issue has returned

[slate wing]

Mesa drivers are actually slightly faster then amds own for windows~~

[stoic beacon]

K

He didn't say he wanted "better" though, he said he wanted the least amount of driver issues possible, so that's what I gave him.

[gentle slate]

maybe the solution is to just sell amd and get novideo

[slate wing]

nvidia is worse on all platforms

[gentle slate]

though novideo had its gpus cooked by new world

[stoic beacon]

If that's what works best for you, then yeah. They're the most widely used, and have the most stable drivers (for now)

[stoic beacon]

Objectively incorrect.

[slate wing]

amd "works" on windows and is flawless on linux while nvidia is buggy as shit on windows and does not work on linux

[idle nymph]

I dont know how everybody always have driver issue on amd

[spare sky]

Ye always the way ik i few companys that did that

[stoic beacon]

Don't shill when this poor dude just wants help.

[spare sky]

Servers are sill quite exspensive

[slate wing]

Im not shilling

im waiting till nvidia makes working drivers for me

[gentle slate]

I just want my stuff to work again mane. Why it work before but now no work

[spare sky]

^ what would you say abt this

[stoic beacon]

Yes, you are. I have multiple machines, and not only does Nvidia work better on the Windows ones, it works much better on the Linux ones as well

Not sure what you did wrong with your Nvidia drivers, but don't use your own bad experience to make this guy's life harder.

[slate wing]

bull shit, nvidia is literally the only one not working on wayland still

except the %1 of cases where it magically does

[stoic beacon]

Your choice to fight with Arch.

[slate wing]

its not just arch

[vapid smelt]

It went on strike?

[spare sky]

@fossil frost

[idle nymph]

Isnt nvidia total shit for Linux?

[jaunty compass]

yes

[fossil frost]

good price, will need to go SSD though, because the 2.5" discs for that are either expensive as fuck, or dogshit

[idle nymph]

And also i dont see How the fuck do yall fuck up your amd driver

[jaunty compass]

nvidia has terrible linux drivers and they didn't really open source their drivers

[stoic beacon]

I guess, according to these guys. I, and everyone I work with, has had great experience with Nvidia on Linux.

[jaunty compass]

they "open sourced" the drivers and moved everything important to the firmware, which is still closed source

[slate wing]

if you are doing compute its fine but if you want to gayme or have a usable desktop nvidia sucks

[spare sky]

Ye all good got a few spare

[stoic beacon]

If you aren't shoving Radeons up your butt each day, you aren't gonna make it far in this discord though, to be fair

[manic torrent]

they didn't move it - it was already there

[vapid smelt]

It uses slow cores so it won't be good for gaming

[slate wing]

their drivers still lack features that are needed for wayland which is the only way to get HFR and multi display settings working properly

[manic torrent]

Don't get me wrong, it's still crap

[fossil frost]

in my old place, i spec-ed out 4x 2tb SSDs running raid0+1 for our CI build machine 😄

[jaunty compass]

they basically pretended to open source the drivers so they could get clout

[idle nymph]

Réal question, are like half of the people here sure that their driver are the issue?

[spare sky]

Didnt intend for gaming using it as a server

[vapid smelt]

That's good then

[manic torrent]

what people are sure that whose driver is what issue

[slate wing]

drivers are the issue for what?

[spare sky]

Wow bit overkill no 😅

[vapid smelt]

Tesla

[stoic beacon]

I'd rather people blame drivers than "netcode"

[jaunty compass]

average smash bros player

[manic torrent]

I'm using my server as a server but I need the drivers...

[fossil frost]

noope, we had 8-12 builds of a large codebase running at any one time, we were hammering it

[spring drum]

Oh right, nvidia

[spare sky]

Hm

[spring drum]

sucks on linux to set up

as long as youre not using the "open" drivers (those seem to break at random) you should be fine

"open" because its not really open source

[spare sky]

Thats alot of utilisation

[slate wing]

the foss drivers cant control GPU clocks on anything newer then the 750ti

[idle nymph]

I just found an Laptop ssd, it show its speed in sata is 6.0gb/s, is that good ?

[fossil frost]

middle of the morning, we could saturate those 4 SSDs

[spare sky]

You probaly need a cd

[jaunty compass]

that's......sata speed, idk what you mean by good

[stoic beacon]

Has Manifest V3 happened yet? Haven't seen a large uptick in Firefox downloads, thought that was supposed to happen in 2023

[idle nymph]

Like what is sata?

[stoic beacon]

Google.

[fossil frost]

google it

[idle nymph]

So the ssd can Transfer file at 6gig per secondes ?

[spare sky]

M.2

[jaunty compass]

interface that is used mostly for hard drives and cheaper ssds; it has a limit of 6 gigabit per second

[lucid echo]

gigabit is not the same as gigabyte

[manic torrent]

LOL wtf are you smoking

[slate wing]

manifest v2 wont be disabled till 2024

[fossil frost]

FYI, @spare sky , that server will sound like a jet engine, hopefully you have somewhere you can put it

[idle nymph]

Ph

[lucid echo]

6 gigabit == ~550 megabytes/second

[idle nymph]

Thats a lot

[spare sky]

Ye thats why im not goinf for it it has 7 40mm fans😂

[manic torrent]

It works fine - I've been using linux for 25+ years.

[jaunty compass]

that's....not right-

[spare sky]

O

[jaunty compass]

that's probably what you'll get in real world, but it should be like 750 megabyte per second

[idle nymph]

Linux is that old?

[jaunty compass]

in theory at least

[manic torrent]

older

[idle nymph]

So good ssd or Bad ssf

[jaunty compass]

linux is quite old, did you think it was new?

[fossil frost]

its an ssd... its not good or bad

[spare sky]

Going to go for a i5 6th gen and fill it with ram tbh

[manic torrent]

2001 was the year of the linux desktop

[slate wing]

linux is the spiritual squeal to unix which itself is dummy old

[idle nymph]

No i just didnt know its age

[jaunty compass]

i mean, it's sata; drives have easily been able to hit the cap of sata speeds for ages; it's fine

[full fossil]

hm

[lucid echo]

phone typo whoops, yeah 6k/8=750

[fossil frost]

and people have claimed that same thing for every year since then too 😄

[jaunty compass]

sata ssds still work fine, they're just not as fast as m.2 nvme

[spare sky]

Just people dont know how to price old hardware like i saw so many post of 3rd gen for like 100 pounds they are practically e waste now

[manic torrent]

that's .... not really true, but it's close enough for normies

[idle nymph]

Dammit i think im allergic to cats

[full fossil]

fr?

[fossil frost]

im allergic to attention seeking trolls

[slate wing]

I dont think they are ready to learn about BSD yet

[manic torrent]

BSD has nothing to do with it my friend.

[idle nymph]

Temporaly in à house whit cats, and i keep coughing, the moment i go out the house it get better

[full fossil]

damn

[idle nymph]

This is a chat to talk, and jeez, im trying to learn shit, im not trolling, is everybody this rude when youre New ?

[manic torrent]

linux is/was an uncertified implentation of UNIX using the POSIX standards. So it isn't a "sequel" to unix, it IS unix.

[fossil frost]

you are not trying to learn, learning is going out an trying to figure things out for yourself... what you are doing is asking for a spoon feeding

[slate wing]

By that logic windows is unix as some versions implement POSIX

[manic torrent]

correct.

[slate wing]

the design of the kernel and whatnot are however nothing alike

[idle nymph]

Which also work for learning, learning From réal people of more help full than Google, i ask question, i get answer, i get smarter

[manic torrent]

unix includes solaris, HP-UX, AIX, SCO and some others.

[slate wing]

linux however i think people deem "close enough" even if openBSD is closer

[manic torrent]

.... what?

you're just making shit up now.

[silent hawk]

Linux is better for servers than Windows (RAM hog)

[manic torrent]

"While still a student at the University of Helsinki, Torvalds started developing Linux to create a system similar to MINIX, a UNIX operating system. "

Unix (/ˈjuːnɪks/; trademarked as UNIX) is a family of multitasking, multiuser computer operating systems that derive from the original AT&T Unix

this is all very clear in any number of publically available history documents.

[slate wing]

its a difference between "unix standards" and unix philosophy.

[manic torrent]

your words - "sequel"

whatever it is, it is absolutely not that

it's not plan9

[spring drum]

Huh, thought he created minix and then just shaped it into linux over time

[manic torrent]

but... now you know better.

[slate wing]

i fucking hate plan9 assembler and i dont know why google chose to use it for go

[manic torrent]

Because they hate you specifically 🙂

[slate wing]

AT&T or whatever standard makes far more sense to me

[spring drum]

dont forget macos

[manic torrent]

.... irrelevant in this context

[slate wing]

na, gotta call it by the kernel darwin

[spring drum]

thats fair

if the usb hub is red, and youre using up all the bandwidth for one, then yes it will

if youre using multiple devices on a red hub, you can't get max speed afaik

However if you had a red usb and plugged in a previous generation hub, you may have enough bandwidth to run all of the hub ports at their maximum speed

if the generation gap is far enough that the number of ports x generation speed = "red usb port"

I dont know what youre talking about though. USB uhh 4?

Is that even a thing?

Maybe in thunderbolt

As far as Ive seen I dont think theyve released it over usb A

Dont take my word for it though, I could be dead wrong

[dusky oyster]

I'm pretty sure USB 4 released

i think..

[somber cobalt]

https://www.techspot.com/news/97995-data-center-uses-waste-heat-warm-public-pool.html

What Linus is doing at his house, but scaled up.

[wind pulsar]

Has been LONG ago

USB 4 has been released in August 2019 or along those lines lmao

[graceful burrow]

Release doesn't mean wide adoption unfortunately

[lucid echo]

Yeahhh the PCIe 6.0 announcement is over a year old now

[fierce moth]

Pcie 6.0 is entirely useless

Heck even pcie 5.0 is useless

[frozen crypt]

has anyone here played wolfenstein 2 recently?

i wanted to ask if it still blue screens pcs

[gentle slate]

I already broke my Linux install.

KDE plasma refuses to respond and errors out.

[velvet marsh]

for gaming*

[wind pulsar]

Obviously, but since they used 'released' I answered accordingly

[wind pulsar]

People say the same thing over and over again

'Pcie gen 3 is useless, nobody needs it'
'Pcie gen 4 is just too much, who needs that'
'Pcie gen 5 is so unnecessary, holy shit'

[manic torrent]

No, pcie 5.0 / 6.0 is useless to you

[manic torrent]

USB 4 has not only been released, the 80gbps each way verison has been released

[velvet marsh]

They also never really said gen 3 was useless. It was pretty well praised at the time

[manic torrent]

I mean, afaik there's no products, but hey

[wind pulsar]

Literally the same thing when the 18 cores XE cpus came out and everybody went crazy saying 'WHO NEEDS 18 CORES WHAT THE FUCK'

[fierce moth]

Yes

[wind pulsar]

Now almost everyone drools over the 13900K having 24

[fierce moth]

Servers will find some use for it

[manic torrent]

HPDE is not fr most consumers 🙂

[manic torrent]

will find some use for more I/O ? 😛 yeah plenty of people need lots of I/O

[wind pulsar]

Obviously, but was also only to get the point across

[long briar]

You still don't need 18 cores

[glacial ibex]

you only need 640kb of ram

[wind pulsar]

Exactly, but it's long been normalized

[long briar]

no???

for high end maybe

[wind pulsar]

Yes

[long briar]

but defo not for most people

[wind pulsar]

I'm not talking about people's needs or anything

Like, the existence of 16 or 18 cores

[long briar]

who needs 18 cores was said by who

because cpus with more existed before

just not under core series

[wind pulsar]

If you don't get the point, then don't argue

[long briar]

You said "everybody"

I get the point but there's a detail I disagree with

[wind pulsar]

Yes, because people genuinely thought that was stupid

[manic torrent]

which was clearly hyperbolic

[lilac sage]

the reason why most people are only buying so many cores is because they are faster than the CPUs with lower core counts

[manic torrent]

I'm an asshole for details, but come on.

[manic torrent]

my CPU has a measly 8 cores

with a slow freq of 4.85ghz

[wind pulsar]

There was one guy today that was blown away by the fact that the 13900K only has 8P cores lmao

[velvet marsh]

I have 24P cores 😄

[lilac sage]

get an 10 or 8 p-core raptorlake intel cpu with the same or better clock speed as a 13900KS and ppl will stray away from buying a 13900KS

but binning ensures that doesnt happen

[manic torrent]

My 5700X is so much faster than the 3700X

[velvet marsh]

Yeah yeah, rub it in that they never gave me Zen 3 lol

[pliant karma]

New cpus I see?

[velvet marsh]

Nah still TR

[lilac sage]

what MB did you get stuck with?

[pliant karma]

Ah

[wind pulsar]

Eh, TR 3960X

[velvet marsh]

Msi Creator

[lilac sage]

X370?

[velvet marsh]

Trx40

[lilac sage]

oh I see, makes more sense

ye why tf did they even bother making a TR pro platform

just make TR platform

[manic torrent]

money

[velvet marsh]

Still competes with the 7950x and 13900k in multi

[wind pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-money-please-make-it-rain-gif-17552378

[long briar]

what about single core xd

[velvet marsh]

I don't really need a lot of single core performance

[wind pulsar]

I mean if that works for you, I don't think I'd like singlecore performance that loses by roughly 20~25% against a 12100

[long briar]

uhm

[lilac sage]

you can sell ur TR platform for a 7700X platform if you need single core

[long briar]

3960x against the 13900k... in R23 Single core slower by 43%, Multi is slower by 14%

[velvet marsh]

I'm also at 4.5ghz all core

[pliant karma]

Oh yea camera update sooo lol got some more added to my list

[velvet marsh]

So multi is probably less than 5%

[pliant karma]

Still in the canon but the R5 or R6 mark ii on my list since I have ef lens I can adapt from rf

[long briar]

41000 points for 13900k R23 multi

[velvet marsh]

I hit about 38k

[long briar]

so about 7% off

[wind pulsar]

Yes, albeit barely

[velvet marsh]

Yeah, sounds good to me to not have to buy a new cpu new mobo and ram lol

[wind pulsar]

I wish, but no

[pliant karma]

👀old manual lens

Friend also has a canon fd lens

[velvet marsh]

Plus my storage would be a major downgrade if I went to the 13900k

[long briar]

that's fair

[wind pulsar]

If there's no K, there's no KF, K SKUs start at xx600 now

Ah nvm, 10700

Yeah, the 13100 should beat it handily

[long briar]

There hasn't been an overclockable i3 since what, 8th gen??

[wind pulsar]

Not in multi-core though, but single core easily

[wind pulsar]

9th gen

Sure, will work

[long briar]

how much for the 1080ti

[wind pulsar]

A 5600 + 1080 Ti build is probably gonna be cheaper, but that will work

[long briar]

it will work well but you could find better value nowadays

170 not bad

[long briar]

5600 + a working motherboard would be far cheaper