public-chat

[young root]

thats not an easy to run game, considering the gpu is like a vega 11

a gtx 1050

[indigo plume]

Its liked a 10 year old game

[young root]

it doesnt matter

[wispy marsh]

I heard W3 was wrapped in a DX12 layer for RTX which made it run with dog-tier performance even if you have RT turned off

[indigo plume]

If it cant run a 10 year old game with decent performace it has no hope in hell when never tittles come out

[wispy marsh]

You're not hallucinating

[fluid ridge]

what is a tital

[indigo plume]

title*

[wispy marsh]

You need a pre-rtx version of witcher3 to have good performance

[indigo plume]

im using dx11 version

and getting 40 fps

[fluid ridge]

honestly for a handheld thats pretty good

this is why a gaming laptop still better imo

[young root]

thats 2 totally different classes of products, my laptop has a 3070 ti and i still use my deck more

its just better imo

[fluid ridge]

for what?

performance is worse, compatibility is worse, you can do more on a laptop

the only good things it has going for it is portability and price

[young root]

gaming, i havea 7900xtx desktop and for portable gaming its just more convenient

[fluid ridge]

wait no, only price, gaming laptops are portable

[young root]

my lpatop unplugged gets 20-15 fps

[fluid ridge]

idk what im smoking

discord privacy is shit

the latest privacy policy reiteration they removed the "hey we wont record your voice calls!"

"we wont record your screenshares!"

so thats gone now roflcopter

if you look into discords founder, jason citron, he founded a similar chat platform before this called OpenFeint

OpenFeint ate shit because they were caught illegally selling very sensitive data

GPS locations, IP addresses, emails, physical addresses, HWIDs, the list goes on

all companies pretend to be privacy sensitive

it's fashionable to put "We care about your privacy"

Google does that shit too

fuck man the CIA needs to put "we care about your privacy"

discord has to make money somehow

[wispy marsh]

Facebook is an advertising company like google

[fluid ridge]

and discord nitro is definitely not profitable enough

[wispy marsh]

They don't have Nitro

[fluid ridge]

it is what it is

[stray apex]

When did discord ever pretend to care about privacy

[fluid ridge]

they still do

    We don’t sell your personal information. Our business is based on subscriptions and paid products, not from selling your personal information to third parties.
    We limit what information is required. We require the information that enables us to create your account, provide and maintain our services, meet our commitments to our users, and satisfy our legal requirements. The rest is optional.
    We care deeply about safety. Our dedicated Trust & Safety team works hard to help keep our community safe. We also use certain information to help us identify violations of our Community Guidelines and prevent harmful content from being distributed through the services. 
    We give you control. We give you the ability to control your privacy on Discord.```

this is like boilerplate privacy policy copy and pasted from every tech company ever

[jaunty compass]

Everyone just needs to constantly stream stupid shitposts so they can't afford to record it all

[fluid ridge]

"we limit what information is collected"
*logs the last millisecond of the last game you were playing

[jaunty compass]

[fluid ridge]

the only reason im still on discord is because none of my friends want to move to matrix

it's tough

discord also keep in mind is partly held by tencent

[stray apex]

Nobody wants to move away from discord because discord is easy to use and everything is already there

[fluid ridge]

yeah that's for a lot of things

most people rather use convenience and ease of use than caring about data and stuff

[stray apex]

Yes, because the data discord can get from me isn't anything that I'm not willing to make public anyways

[split ice]

Better than getting help from reddit

[stray apex]

People who want to use social media but also want privacy are weird to me

Like, what, do you want a subscription-based social media service?

[fluid ridge]

give me your IP address, every message you've ever sent from your discord account, your HWID, the last game you've ever played, your login activity, and your email + phone number if applicable please 😃

you can easily bundle it for me by requesting your discord data package and forward it to my email

thank you sir 🫡

[stray apex]

You mean data that almost every game you install can access?

[fluid ridge]

yep, that data

but also that data you say you dont care being leaked

[stray apex]

What will you give me in return?

[fluid ridge]

absolutely nothing

[stray apex]

Then why would I do that?

[fluid ridge]

because you said you dont care?

[stray apex]

I give discord data in exchange for a useful service

You won't give me shit

[fluid ridge]

fair

so you do care

you care about your data, it's just only okay if it goes to a giant billion dollar corporation?

[stray apex]

You're also being obviously disingenuous lmao

[median idol]

As shitty as discord can be at times, I still prefer it over a lot of other social media platforms

[stray apex]

How do you think social media platforms work

Userbase is the most important feature

Discord was vastly easier to use than any of its competitors, and it's still solid and has the most users, so everyone keeps using it

[fluid ridge]

people like you and a few others say "Oh, I have nothing to hide, why would I switch to XYZ encryption model or ABC app"

let me read your inbox, your DMs, your correspondences then

[indigo plume]

Discord is simple and works

[stray apex]

Why would I let you do that?

[fluid ridge]

im in the r/privacy subreddit and that argument comes up a lot

[fluid ridge]

"my data can only be shafted by trillion dollar corporations"

[indigo plume]

What competitor

[fluid ridge]

discord is simple and works

there is no denying that

[stray apex]

Yes, because they have incentives which are clear and known to me

[fluid ridge]

which is to sell your data...

??? that's one of the worst possible thing they can do with your data

[indigo plume]

Wdym how does discord not work

[fluid ridge]

discord is just a webpage wrapped with electron iirc

[indigo plume]

I dont see anything wrong with discord

[stray apex]

There isn't lol

[fluid ridge]

besides my privacy complaints, i enjoy using discord

[stray apex]

Some tech hipsters like to hate on things that are popular

Discord is fine

[fluid ridge]

i also have matrix, which I prefer the UI design for it to discord, but nobody uses matrix :C

[indigo plume]

Never even heard of matrix

[stray apex]

These are the same kind of people who stan mastadon

[indigo plume]

Wtf is matrix

[fluid ridge]

matrix is a decentralized federalized optionally E2EE chat servers

[stray apex]

And other platforms that nobody wants to use shut up oh my god

[indigo plume]

Wtf is E2EE

[fluid ridge]

end to end encrypted

[indigo plume]

I dont see reason to move of discord it does everything it needs to do

[fluid ridge]

yeah thats what we've been discussing

discord achieves it's purpose very very well

it's a great communications platform with many active users

[indigo plume]

Like there's nothing I'd really want to change about discord

[fluid ridge]

we're talking about the fact that you make a trade off when you use discord

and that trade-off is that your data is fucking railed from behind by tencent and discord's various shareholders/advertising partners

[pseudo shoal]

can someone help with my pc no one in the other chat is helping

[fluid ridge]

#1027757333117415424 wait

[pseudo shoal]

no1 is helping

[indigo plume]

I mean your info is sold with every tech company

[fluid ridge]

ok ask

[stray apex]

Yes, and the better product is also gonna be a large company that sells your data lmao

[fluid ridge]

yeah of course

[indigo plume]

Like if u use Google ur info is being stolen

[fluid ridge]

yeah because google is an advertising company

they literally use your data to make money

[vapid smelt]

and no one is paying me 1 million dollars a year

[indigo plume]

I dont see issue with discord security

Like you can use 2fa

[stray apex]

No, tech nerds are fucking idiots

[fluid ridge]

that should be a bare minimum

[fluid ridge]

you are in the wrong server my guy

[stray apex]

Nobody gives a shit if tech companies figure out their hobbies and interests and where they live

They post that shit all publicly already

[indigo plume]

I dont Care if tencent has my info

Tbh

[fluid ridge]

that's on you 🤷

[stray apex]

Tencent already has my info lmao

[fluid ridge]

whatever floats your boat

[indigo plume]

They prob already do after playing league

For like 3 years

How is that the same thing

[fluid ridge]

i dont think this is worth continuing to discuss

[spring socket]

You're using discord lol

[stray apex]

Tech nerds try not to make statements of false equivalence challenge (impossible)

[fluid ridge]

they clearly hold different values and we hold ours

[indigo plume]

Comparing leaving bathroom door open to stealing data

Like I dont care what are they gunna do with my data

Like if I cared about data not being stolen I wouldn't use tiktok either

[fluid ridge]

good for you

[indigo plume]

But u do use it

[stray apex]

Oh no
I'm gonna get more relevant ads

[indigo plume]

I*

[fluid ridge]

I just rather not be fingerprinted across the internet as the giant billion dollar corporations learn more about me than i know about myself

perhaps some people are uncomfortable with such an idea, and other folks, like you, do not care

some people choose not to wear seatbelts

it is what it is at the end of the day 🤷

[stray apex]

So you do all your browsing through tor?

[fluid ridge]

we all have free agency, pick your own path

[fluid ridge]

nope, that would be unusable, but i run hardened firefox with ublock and I use simplelogin to proxy my email accounts and bitwarden to keep all of my passwords secure

[full fossil]

I'm very uncomfortable with that idea, I will never let fbi track me >:[

[stray apex]

Your isp tracks all your shit then...?

[fluid ridge]

it's not as secure as tor, but it's probably the closest thing

[fluid ridge]

im also running a DNS sinkhole, adguard

[fluid ridge]

yeah

the point is to minimize

if i wanted no data id fucking move to alaska and live in a log cabin for the rest of my life

[indigo plume]

Nothing u do matters if they have my Data

[stray apex]

All that work
And
You just let your isp know everything you do

[indigo plume]

I*

[stray apex]

At least use a no logs vpn or something

[fluid ridge]

better than my ISP and everyone else knowing

[full fossil]

🤔

[fluid ridge]

eh

i occasionally use a VPN

i just dont like how it triggers recaptcha and anti spam

[stray apex]

Oh no

Mild inconvenience

[fluid ridge]

i pay for ProtonMail too

[stray apex]

Better give up on privacy lol

[indigo plume]

Ur too paranoid

Ur making this shit deeper than it actually is

[fluid ridge]

perhaps you do not care enough

2 sides to every coin my friend

[stray apex]

Tfw you watched one Tom Scott video

[indigo plume]

Why would I care if someone sees my youtube history and what shows I watch lol

[fluid ridge]

this bot is fucking stupid

[indigo plume]

Whatever yall can live in fear idc

I'm just keep doing what I do

[fluid ridge]

I can understand the "this app may sell my data and build a profile around me but provides functionality, a user base, a good UI, user experience, free to use, etc." argument but I cannot understand the sheer bootlicking for data logging and processing right now

[vast scarab]

One thing to keep in mind is that you're just a singular person, and in the long run, corporations don't care about you as an individual. They care about the collective data. So if you think that your specific actions make a difference regarding the processing of your data, you're wrong. Corporations still make just as much profit with one less set of data points. Again, you are just an individual.

[fluid ridge]

no, they care about you and your data because your relevant ads and such will be different than your peers

[stray apex]

No, an algorithm does all that automatically

[fluid ridge]

which still tracks to an individual level

[stray apex]

The corporation itself doesn't give half a shit about yoi

[indigo plume]

I dont really care about targeted Ada

[fluid ridge]

obviously there isn't someone assigned to each person at google looking at the search patterns of a person and manually recommending results

[indigo plume]

Ads

[stray apex]

Tech nerds are just really annoying

[vast scarab]

It doesn't matter if it's tracked on an individual level, the amount of money they lose due to lack of data for one user is negligible.

[stray apex]

It's why I enjoy shitting on Linux desktop and amd GPUs so much

[fluid ridge]

... you understand this is Linus Tech Tips?

[stray apex]

There's definitely good reasons to like them, but the people tend to be so annoying

Especially in how completely clueless they are about what people actually care about

[fluid ridge]

what a person cares about will differ from person to person

[indigo plume]

Some tech enthusiasts can be obnoxious

[fluid ridge]

different values, different perspectives, different ideologies

some may value online privacy, others may not

[indigo plume]

I feel like most ppl dont

Considering how many ppl use tiktok

[fluid ridge]

If given 2 identical products and one offers much better privacy protections than the other, I am confident most people would choose the one that offers better privacy

[indigo plume]

I'm not on my pc

[stray apex]

Yeah, some people will be like "discord steals your data" on discord through their ISP that logs everything they do while they pay for everything using credit cards

Like bruh

[fluid ridge]

the problem is, apps are not 1:1 and most people are not willing to sacrifice functionality and form for privacy

[amber cairn]

*sent from my xiaomi/iphone/google pixel

[stray apex]

Meanwhile NSA operating out of telecoms exchanges:

[amber cairn]

who told you this little lie

[fluid ridge]

im running windows 11 home that has been debloated with multiple different powershell scripts and OO's ShutUp10

[vast scarab]

solution: don't run windows

[amber cairn]

lol from your private bunker using a 5G connection you buy in bitcoin?

[fluid ridge]

this argument is shifting from whether your data being logged is good or bad, to which methods are being used to log your data

nobody is saying your ISP does not log your data, or that you remain completely anonymous and untouched

[amber cairn]

riiiiiight

[fluid ridge]

why are people so against online privacy lol

today was pretty eye opening

[stray apex]

Privacy nerds are annoying

[fluid ridge]

it is what it is i guess

[amber cairn]

People are not against it but are aware enough to know that the system is rigged

[fluid ridge]

🤷

[stray apex]

Privacy nerds are why we have crypto

I'll never forgive them

[fluid ridge]

is that a bad thing or a good thing

[amber cairn]

bad thing, crypto has only become ponzi heaven no real utility outside of illegal activity

or like a black market stock exchange

[fluid ridge]

sounds like the government cant control it to me, and that sounds like something I appreciate 😎

[amber cairn]

😂

[indigo plume]

Crypto is a mistake

[amber cairn]

laughs in FTX

[indigo plume]

Just like nfts

[stray apex]

Crypto nerds until someone scams them

Banks aren't cringe

[fluid ridge]

people who use a decentralized currency just to use a centralized wallet/exchange deserve to be scammed of their life savings

[golden talon]

the only government that cares about your online privacy and stuff is the ones that actively censor stuff

[amber cairn]

Banks also have consumer protection laws, bankruptcy laws etc

[golden talon]

china for example

[stray apex]

I prefer my evil mundane and not trying to appeal to zoomers, thank you

[fluid ridge]

yeah

[amber cairn]

you CAN get your money back if someone scams you from the banking system, good luck getting your money back from FTX

[fluid ridge]

"let me just break the whole point of having a decentralized currency system"

[indigo plume]

I prefer banks to coins value thst could drop to zero

[full fossil]

You're a mistake, just because someone creates scams with new tech, doesn't mean the tech is bad >:[

[amber cairn]

you're talking about the 1800s? yeah

[stray apex]

It turns out that we centralize things for a reason or something

[fluid ridge]

So you're telling me planes aren't a bad invention just because a plane crashes every so often?

Boats are not bad things because some boats sink every now and then?

[amber cairn]

If the only utility demonstrated is crime that's not just one crash man

[fluid ridge]

the utility behind crypto is not only crime

[amber cairn]

Show it then

[stray apex]

It's almost entirely crime

[indigo plume]

Ight this chat is cringe

[stray apex]

Crypto is for crime and gambling

[fluid ridge]

privacy?

[stray apex]

That's like
All anyone uses it for

[full fossil]

Who the fuck thinks planes are bad xD

[fluid ridge]

investing?

[stray apex]

Investing into crypto lmao

[amber cairn]

Crypto's been a thing for years now and only thing it's been demonstrated to be is a shitty wall street combined with every loser online tricking impressionable people to invest in garbage

[indigo plume]

Much safer to invest into stocks

[fluid ridge]

there are thousands of those who have invested in crypto richer than me and you combined

[amber cairn]

"educate yourself" - idiot who can't refute the claims

[stray apex]

Yeah, because crypto is at this point a funny number go up that you buy drugs with, not a real currency

[indigo plume]

90% of shit I see on crypto is scams

[fluid ridge]

but it is a real currency

and people use it for transactions, legal or not

[amber cairn]

"google it" another classic when you don't know

[stray apex]

Yeah, crypto is used for illegal transactions and gambling

It's shit

[amber cairn]

come on now little baby, come with actual utilities that are used in modern day, they've had 10+ years to launch something legit 🙂

[full fossil]

I would bet my life that crypto will be 100% most common and easiest way to pay for services in the future xD

[indigo plume]

All I hear about crypto is scams and money laundering and some other shit

Never heard anything positive come from crypto

[fluid ridge]

i am by no means a crypto bro, I think it's way too volatile for any meaningful investment, but I can appreciate the idea and the fact that government and beauracracy cant control freak it

[full fossil]

So is real fucking money, omfg xD

[fluid ridge]

cash is used for illegal transactions too

[amber cairn]

So it'll be integrated into VISA a.... centralized credit service

[stray apex]

What's really funny is when companies announce they're gonna start taking crypto
They almost always inevitably quietly drop it because they keep dealing with illicit transactions

[indigo plume]

Crypto will never be most common way go pay

[stray apex]

Real money is used for other things as well

[amber cairn]

Do you know what VISA is?

[fluid ridge]

crypto is used for other things as well

i dont understand why you think crypto can only be used for crime

[stray apex]

In quantities so small as to be irrelevant, sure

[fluid ridge]

i bet the vast majority of money going into crypto is some guy hoping to get rich

[indigo plume]

It's mostly use for scams

[full fossil]

Ye, ur dad should have used it to buy protection

[stray apex]

If you're doing something legal, it's vastly easier to just use normal money

[fluid ridge]

investment

[stray apex]

"investment"
Lmao

[fluid ridge]

most crypto is bought for investment purposes

[indigo plume]

Why would someone invest in crypto vs the stockmarket

[fluid ridge]

why are you shitting on crypto investment, it's a real thing

[stray apex]

If your currency's primary use is investment it's a godawful currency

[fluid ridge]

crypto is more volatile, which means it's easier to get stinkin rich but also easier to lose it all

both are gambling

[fluid ridge]

that's your opinion 🤷

[stray apex]

No lmao
That's why nobody uses the gold standard

[indigo plume]

Stock market investing makes way more sense

[amber cairn]

Your biggest brag was that a service that functions by having a centralized payment network for international transactions investing in crypto isn't the ANTITHESIS of what crypto was supposed to be because then it's just money with a funny name

[unkempt widget]

rip

[polar steeple]

I don't associate with that group

[fluid ridge]

thats tough

[unkempt widget]

everything is rather sad

[normal cargo]

Pah, we were just getting to melbawls actual point lol

Instead of dancing around it like some kind of edgey camp fire

[median idol]

Warship-kun strikes again

[unkempt widget]

my head hurts a lot, i'm sick today

[tender geyser]

This is an attack on free speech! We must not let this stand

[fluid ridge]

i agree with melbawls ideas but he is quite apathetic and perhaps does not know where he stands

[unkempt widget]

1984

[normal cargo]

That's my summary, life goes on

[polar steeple]

Melbawls actual point is that most people have no idea what they're talking about and should stay out of these conversations in general

[unkempt widget]

which includes you?

[fluid ridge]

basebawl

bowlingbawl

[normal cargo]

Taking your own advice today ?

[polar steeple]

Melbawl has a degree in political science with a specialization in comparative politics and will do this all day

[fluid ridge]

soccerbawl

[polar steeple]

I know more than all of you

[normal cargo]

Of course

[fluid ridge]

absolute gigachad response

[neon mesa]

dunning kruger effect is strong with this one

[unkempt widget]

wow, superiority complex

[polar steeple]

You don't even know what that means

[fluid ridge]

i mean if what he says is true he is TECHNICALLY more qualified than us

[unkempt widget]

i can go to russia and buy a degree

[neon mesa]

in oversimplified summary, people who know less tend to think they know more than they do and also thinks they're above everyone else

[polar steeple]

Hmmm

[unkempt widget]

but doesn't confidence go up after the initial dip

wait where have i heard that sentence before

[neon mesa]

confidence go up but the superiority complex does not come back

[unkempt widget]

ah

[median idol]

Never change, pub chat..... Never change

[unkempt widget]

i suppose there is a difference between thinking you're better than everyone, to telling everyone that

[fluid ridge]

someone should stir the pot again

[unkempt widget]

tech chat 1 is this, but about tech

[frail musk]

Huh

[polar steeple]

No one said anything about better

[unkempt widget]

it's a "pick your poison" situation

[tender geyser]

And pic perms!

[unkempt widget]

well you did say you know more about us

[polar steeple]

Doesn't imply anything about being better

[unkempt widget]

wow not again???

[normal cargo]

Um lol

[tender geyser]

Wait what

[median idol]

Yeah.... Tech Chat 1 can get pretty wild and braindead at times

[normal cargo]

That was easy

[polar steeple]

Lots of people know more than me about lots of things

It is what it is

[unkempt widget]

yes, but in the topic of discussion, we're only talking about one specific topic

and not about life in general

[median idol]

In the build a PC channel, we do clown on Tech Chat 1 quite often

[polar steeple]

Yes generally speaking you will encounter people who know more about the topic at hand than you

[neon mesa]

people who do know tend to not act like you

[fluid ridge]

outliers exist

[unkempt widget]

you clearly think you know more than us about politics

[normal cargo]

Aye but you just assumed you know more than people on the internet

[polar steeple]

I don't care

[polar steeple]

There was no assumption I've been reading them speak on it for the past 30 minutes

[neon mesa]

i mean, after reading shit from him, do you think he is one?

[polar steeple]

I got a good idea of where there head is at

And it's bad

[fluid ridge]

i think he has a slight god complex

[unkempt widget]

wow you sound really smart for a dumb person

[normal cargo]

Me too, and you fall into this category n all, where you just argue around the point instead of on it

[polar steeple]

Lol

[fluid ridge]

but for the most part i think he has ideas he has formulated and studied himself

[polar steeple]

I don't have a God complex lmfao

[unkempt widget]

formulated and studied himself into hate for people who are unlucky?

[neon mesa]

we can all be in peace if we just ignore him and talk about tech. he has history of being... annoying...

[polar steeple]

I have very low tolerance for ignorance parading as intelligence

[normal cargo]

But you don't care so it's ok, Mr popey MC pope

[stray apex]

/r/iamverysmart

[vapid moss]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-good-garfield-hey-good-looking-hey-handsome-looking-in-the-mirror-gif-20294451

[unkempt widget]

EXACTLY

he's the embodiment of this sub

[unkempt widget]

wait what why weren't you able to post a gif the first time around

[neon mesa]

just do this and your eyes will be opened

now tech, please?

[vapid moss]

discord is still a very buggy platform

[stray apex]

Sometimes discord is just being discord

[unkempt widget]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1037946021533204550/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

here's a cat for you all

[polar steeple]

Lol this conversation is actually hilarious

[neon mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[polar steeple]

Yall really want echo chambers where no one ever challenges you

[unkempt widget]

its like a circus

[polar steeple]

Whew

[wispy marsh]

What's this supposed to be?

[unkempt widget]

that's my shower

it echos quite nicely, and i get to argue against myself

[fervent prairie]

Mods are watching

[normal cargo]

Nobody said that, just bring something to the table

[vapid moss]

previous message from melbawl lol

[stray apex]

"why do you think private healthcare is okay"
"I don't like poor people"
I mean
It's technically logically sound

[polar steeple]

Lmao

[unkempt widget]

my intelligence imitates most people on discord anyways, so it works perfect

[normal cargo]

That's not a good reflection

[neon mesa]

installed the new NV drivers for RTX Video Super Resolution
then remember i only got 1080p display

[stray apex]

Dlss just doesn't look very good

[neon mesa]

RTX VSR is not DLSS

[stray apex]

In mw2, at least

[unkempt widget]

rtx vsr is so disappointing :(

[wispy marsh]

You can watch upscaled 144p videos of avril lavigne from the 2000's

[neon mesa]

MW2 is known to have issues with upscalers

[unkempt widget]

(it's very bad)

[neon mesa]

Upscalers can only do so much

[normal cargo]

And why would you wanna do that

[unkempt widget]

wait what

[neon mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSpIKoA6vsM

[wispy marsh]

To believe that Avril would actually want to be your girlfriend

[unkempt widget]

has chat quieted down?

[unkempt widget]

i'm geniunely concerned for the people who write the reviews

like did they get a serious head injury that's only worsening

[normal cargo]

So you're either a grown ass man who should know better or a kid who wants an older women, younger. Makes sense.

[wispy marsh]

She's like 40, mate

[normal cargo]

Aye so 16 yr olds can think she's 16

[wispy marsh]

It's good that you recognized that tho

[unkempt widget]

wait how old are you

[wispy marsh]

Old enough that I could have a kid who's able to use discord

[normal cargo]

That doesn't say much these days

Somewhere between 20 and 90

[polar steeple]

That's an amazingly wide variety of ages

[unkempt widget]

that could be anywhere between 19 and 140
(yes someone had a child at 6, and you can search it up yourself)

[polar steeple]

Yeah lol

[wispy marsh]

Legally satisfy those conditions

[unkempt widget]

(it's very disturbing, i would recommend having your parents read it with you)

[wispy marsh]

Please bring this somewhere else

[normal cargo]

21 and 90 then

[polar steeple]

What the hell

[wispy marsh]

Sigh

[normal cargo]

Aye 90 is just arbitrary

[unkempt widget]

it could be 120

[polar steeple]

You should have just given a fake age

[unkempt widget]

yeah i remember idkwia being very old

[polar steeple]

Like just say you're 35 even if you aren't so they shut up

[wispy marsh]

Yes, I'm 120+ as per what my neopets account says

[normal cargo]

Is it tho ?, I mean does it still work

[unkempt widget]

ok that narrows it down to the generation that went on neopets

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, and I used to have a VCR collection

[unkempt widget]

ow my head hurts so much

[stray apex]

Don't people still play neopets

[wispy marsh]

"what the hell is a vcr collection"

[unkempt widget]

no

[polar steeple]

They don't know bout vcrs

[wispy marsh]

It's the same exact thing as your funko pop collection

[normal cargo]

VCR collection and funko pop are at odds with one another

[unkempt widget]

i had a classmate who had a bunch of funko pops

[polar steeple]

They're not

[unkempt widget]

i thought they were very weird (the funko pops i mean)

[wispy marsh]

I cannot tell you this is correct

[polar steeple]

But I am gonna interject here and say

[stray apex]

VCR makes way more sense than Funko pops

[polar steeple]

No one called it a "VCR Collection"

A VCR plays tapes, tapes is what you collect

VHS if you want to be technical

[wispy marsh]

Tape collection then

[normal cargo]

Yea they did

[polar steeple]

No they didn't

[normal cargo]

And VCR became kinda irrelevant after like 00 ?

[neon mesa]

no regular VHS but still got those Hi8 cassettes

[polar steeple]

Lol

[wispy marsh]

VCR and VHS can be used interchangeably if you're not tech savvy enough

[normal cargo]

Yes, they did

[polar steeple]

Bruh

[wispy marsh]

But that's about the limit of it, like a cassette collection

[polar steeple]

No they fucking didn't lmao I lived through it you did not

[normal cargo]

I gotcha

[normal cargo]

They did, they said it again

[neon mesa]

kinda just depends on where you live?

[wispy marsh]

I'm sorry asians like me call it a VCR collection

[unkempt widget]

mini culture shock:

[polar steeple]

VCR Is the device you play it on though, literally no one would call it that lmao

[unkempt widget]

wait so vcr collection as in vhs collection

[normal cargo]

They did, and atleast one person here still does, and they did anyway lol

[unkempt widget]

or vcr collection as in vcr collection

[polar steeple]

VCR is a device that plays VHS tapes

[wispy marsh]

You know what? I'm just gonna start calling it a VHS collection from now on

[unkempt widget]

jeez melbawl wants to argue about everything

[polar steeple]

A VCR collection would be a collection of the devices

[stray apex]

That guy literally just did lmao

[normal cargo]

Aye but even back then people called it VCR interchangeably, melbawls just like not a Dyson is a vacuum cleaner *shakes fist

[polar steeple]

Nah bruh

[normal cargo]

Serious George

[polar steeple]

Back then it was absolutely not interchangeable

[neon mesa]

try not to be argumentative challenge

[normal cargo]

Twas, I was there, might change between countries but can say for a fact that VCR, VHS, tapes were used interchangeably cos nobody gave a shit

[polar steeple]

If you told someone you had a VCR collection they would think you're a burglar because VCRs were ridiculously expensive and most families had 1 If any at all

Not multiple

They also didn't just do playback they recorded as well

It was an important part of catching media you liked

[stray apex]

No, they would assume you meant a collection of tapes for your VCR because people use things like context to determine meaning

[polar steeple]

It's not like it was a nebulous term

[neon mesa]

some people just call them VCR tape...

it's not rocket science and is not a big deal

[polar steeple]

No, that's not how it worked.

[normal cargo]

And this

[stray apex]

"um ackshually"

[soft trellis]

If I add a second gpu that may or may not use the same driver would I be able to use three monitors?

[stray apex]

🤓

[normal cargo]

Bruv, atleast in some parts of the world it did. We just had it in here ffs

[unkempt widget]

are you so stupid you can't understand what someone is talking about when they say vcr collection?

or are you deliberately trying to argue

[neon mesa]

there are 195 countries that is not the US, shocking i know

[normal cargo]

A Dyson is a vacuum cleaner *shakes fist

[full fossil]

whats vcr collection?

[unkempt widget]

vhs

[wispy marsh]

Here we go

[polar steeple]

Lol I really do love when teenagers try to explain things they know nothing about lmao

[wispy marsh]

[polar steeple]

It's hysterical

[normal cargo]

I lived it bro

[neon mesa]

you are hysterical

[full fossil]

oh, i had some :V

[polar steeple]

Lol you have mentioned on here that you're still in school get out of here

[neon mesa]

if everyone keep disagreeing with you maybe the problem is not everyone else

[unkempt widget]

it's hilarious when people act like they're superior to others because of their age

[stray apex]

No, they're always right
It's the world that's wrong

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[polar steeple]

I would have to care about the reason to consider this

[full fossil]

the world is wrong >:[ its literally complete shit

[neon mesa]

you cared enough to stay here

[unkempt widget]

if you didn't care, then why are you here

[normal cargo]

Hahah you seem so sure too

[unkempt widget]

if you didn't care, why are you arguing

[neon mesa]

"it's public server, i'm here because i can"

[polar steeple]

Why not? Lmao yall are cracking me up

[unkempt widget]

idk man you just contradicted yourself

[soft trellis]

Does anyone else have a Korea chair?

Mine broke

I can't get it to adjust any more lol

[neon mesa]

try not arguing with everyone, everyday challenge (impossible)

[polar steeple]

How so? I have been saying thst you guys are making me laugh for a while

[unkempt widget]

man my nose is red from wiping my nose

[normal cargo]

You know nothing Mr snow

[polar steeple]

Lol I mean whatever you say chief 🤙

[neon mesa]

back to his signature statement

[normal cargo]

Man still thinks I'm in school

[unkempt widget]

you're like the only one who's laughing in a stand-up comedy show, but you're the comedian

[neon mesa]

well the mod agreed

[median idol]

Get greyed

[normal cargo]

What's grey do ?

[unkempt widget]

HAHAHHAHAH

[neon mesa]

1TB Solid state drives here are still 100 bucks

[unkempt widget]

this is the hardest i've laughed in discord

help i can't breathe

[median idol]

Same here

[full fossil]

wtf was the argument even about >:[

[neon mesa]

it's just mel being an ass, like usual

[median idol]

It started off with something about poor people

[normal cargo]

VCR is not VHS

Literally lol

[neon mesa]

search his messages and you will understand ngl.
now new topic or we also get in trouble yes?

[unkempt widget]

i cannot...

man that was hilarious

just seeing his name turn grey
i didn't even get to finish my message

[full fossil]

1 second googles search "a VCR is a video player- recorder. VHS is a tape" >:[

[unkempt widget]

STOP IT

[normal cargo]

Thems be fighting words

[unkempt widget]

you're making me upset

[full fossil]

what happened?

[normal cargo]

So is grey a mute then ?

[graceful burrow]

you could click the name and find out

[full fossil]

no >:[ bullying is not nice

[normal cargo]

"actually mate it's not grey it's gray"

I can do it too 😮

[stray apex]

Græy

[unkempt widget]

yes

i have a feeling i'm gonna get muted now

[full fossil]

for what?

[unkempt widget]

for being a dick

i mean is it fine if i'm a dick towards a dick

[normal cargo]

I actually wanted to know how old they actually were seeing as they spoke with such expertise on the subject

[unkempt widget]

i like to say being intolerant towards the intolerant isn't intolerant

oh yeah rule 14 of course of course

[full fossil]

its ok 🫂 its what discord is for

[unkempt widget]

no, that's breaking rules

discord was created by the discord gods so that we can break rules

btw ukrainian intel uses discord

[neon mesa]

Bro why they be using the least secure platform for it

[unkempt widget]

what

[neon mesa]

Discord is very much an insecure messaging platform

[unkempt widget]

i mean the russians won't see it

neither would the chinese

[full fossil]

matrix!

[unkempt widget]

and as far as we know, they only use voice call

[neon mesa]

If random hackers can find a way so can an entire nation worth of them

[unkempt widget]

i don't think discord logs voice calls and stuff

[neon mesa]

Least they can do is use something end-to-end encrypted

[unkempt widget]

even if they do, it'll be very temporary

or its just a platform that looks like discord

[neon mesa]

Message not being encrypted is only one of few worries

[unkempt widget]

because all we saw was a video of their communications and someone sharing screen

[neon mesa]

Account being compromised is also a blatant issue

[unkempt widget]

it could've been a different thing, also discord's been hacked?

[neon mesa]

Even whatsapp would be more secure

Discord's definitely been hacked before

[unkempt widget]

less functionality

[neon mesa]

What functionality do you need when all you do is voice call

You can also use google meet that will be infinitely more secure

[unkempt widget]

idk, they might use more than that

[full fossil]

https://matrix.org/

[unkempt widget]

screensharing is quite powerful on discord

[normal cargo]

Rossman migrated to matrix, half the channel buggered off

[unkempt widget]

ukrainian intel uses rtx 4090 to screenshare in av1 confirmed

[full fossil]

i see u are in that server too XD
and ye, i been in that matrix server, its literally full of toxic kids :V its impossible to have discussion about anything. had to leave.
i think matrix needs a client that doesn't suck xP so more people would join

[deft folio]

Will it count as a war crime if i were to buy pholgistinator and scorch shot for pyro in tf2?

[normal cargo]

Lol ye, I'm in and out. Was only on matrix for a short while before deciding it's too much of a hassle to keep a separate app for the sake of kiddy behaviour. The community on discord had a bit of an 'episode' and rossman graciously allowed us to remain

[unkempt widget]

it's only a war crime if you lose

or in Curtis LeMay's words, "Japanese Barbecue"

[deft folio]

My plan is to go on 24/7 insta respawn 2fort server, get myself a pocket medic and spawncamp until enemy team ragequits

[normal cargo]

History now wins though

[unkempt widget]

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bombing-of-Tokyo

an often overlooked chapter of the pacific theatre in ww2

[normal cargo]

Wouldn't say overlooked, just people like to avoid lol

Like Dresden

[unkempt widget]

people always talk about the nukes, but they never talk about firebombing of tokyo

[full fossil]

i see lol, ye, multiple apps is what i really wanna to solve >:3 i call it general chat client, would support discord, matrix, etc,
BUT the important thing is to make it look really good and easy to use, and cross-platform
because such clients already exist, but they are super clunky and crap xD which defeats the point of them

[stray apex]

Nah, people usually overlook the Tokyo bombing for the much more exciting nuclear strikes

[unkempt widget]

dresden was only well known because the author lived there

[unkempt widget]

which resulted in much lower casualties and damage btw

[normal cargo]

Aye which is a war crime in itself lol, but we just ignore that bit cos greater good etc

[stray apex]

Strategic bombing isn't a war crime

War crimes aren't things that feel bad

[deft folio]

How did we went from team fortress 2 memes to actual war crimes

[unkempt widget]

purposefully killing civilians is

[stray apex]

No, purposefully killing civilians without proportional military value is

[unkempt widget]

if you aimed for dresden's military complex and decimated the entire city, that's not a war crime

[stray apex]

Civilians dying is a very accepted part of war

[normal cargo]

Was gonna say for matrix to succeed it needs a decent client, I might've taken it more seriously if it wasn't for that. It's like windows, I use discord cos I don't get a headache lol

[full fossil]

same xP

[normal cargo]

Bombing of civilians

[stray apex]

Is not a war crime, as long as you have a good military reason to do so

Again

[unkempt widget]

the line is usually blurred during wars however

[deft folio]

Putin log off pls

[stray apex]

War crimes are not things that feel icky

They're very defined

The military has lawyers on standby to approve strikes

[unkempt widget]

how do you define deliberately killing civilians

[normal cargo]

Then you can argue the fire bombing of Tokyo and Dresden made military sense. Blurred lines.

[stray apex]

If you want to blow up a factory and there are civilians inside, those civilians are acceptable casualties

[normal cargo]

Aye but blanket bombing a city is frowned upon

[unkempt widget]

if you wanted to blow up a city with a military factory in it, is that acceptable

how much of the city can be destroyed

[stray apex]

It is now because we have guided weapons

[unkempt widget]

and how can you say "oh the bombs just missed because the wind blew it off"

[shut saddle]

What’s going on here?

[stray apex]

In WW2, you were lucky if you even hit the right city

[unkempt widget]

we're talking about war crimes

[deft folio]

Discussion of war crimes

[unkempt widget]

well that's a significant exaggeration but sure

[shut saddle]

Nice

[stray apex]

Things like gps and laser guidance changed how bombing works dramatically

[deft folio]

That started because of a stupid tf2 joke

[stray apex]

We went from kind of just blasting away at a city to actually being able to... Not do that

[normal cargo]

Actually, was in the original Hague text n all

[shut saddle]

R u guys planning something?

[full fossil]

i googled it, and u only need 1 billion to take over a country :V

[unkempt widget]

i can neither confirm nor deny that statement

[shut saddle]

Do u have 1 billion?

[unkempt widget]

well the us spent 2000 times of that and didn't even succeed

[shut saddle]

But I can confirm that

[unkempt widget]

with that assessment, elon musk can take over the entire world

[full fossil]

i mean smaller country xP also with corruption, not raw weapons, tho weapons help too

[shut saddle]

That’s what it seems like

[unkempt widget]

i'd say afghanistan is quite insignificant and corrupt

[stray apex]

I mean, the US did basically take over for twenty years

[full fossil]

im 100% i will have the most successful company that ever existed :V

[shut saddle]

Naughty naughty

[shut saddle]

What type of company?

[deft folio]

One bald guy already spent more than a billion and still did not succeed

[normal cargo]

There's been longer sieges

[unkempt widget]

wait wasn't there that 80 year siege in the early modern era

was it malta?

[full fossil]

ye, i think i could do better :V

[full fossil]

they all suck >:[

[unkempt widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQQy5V0jOkQ
21 years

[full fossil]

give me some power, ill show u how its done

[unkempt widget]

that's the second longest siege though

[full fossil]

lol

[full fossil]

many different ones tbh xP u will see xD

[normal cargo]

There's one that lasted 25, need Google tho

[unkempt widget]

siege of ceuta

[normal cargo]

That's the beggar

[unkempt widget]

imagine being a 12 year old when the city you lived in first gets sieged, and coming out of the siege when you're 37

[normal cargo]

I guess they had jobs tho

[full fossil]

did people even live that long?

[unkempt widget]

yes, the reason why life expectancy was so low was because of childbirth deaths and infant deaths

you either die when you're before 5, die when you give birth, or die when you're 70

[full fossil]

hmmm, what if someone broke their arm?

[normal cargo]

Yea was gonna say, if you made it past like 5 you had a chance of a decent length

[unkempt widget]

low likelyhood

[full fossil]

OwO

[normal cargo]

Well it just rehealed and hopefully itd be straight lol

[unkempt widget]

OwO indeed

[full fossil]

teeth infections are the worst

gl living with that

[unkempt widget]

brush your teeth you peasant

[normal cargo]

Yea, see skeletons with holes in their jaws "oh this guy had an infection"

[full fossil]

with what >:[ grass?

[full fossil]

OwO

[full fossil]

UwU

[unkempt widget]

the chinese used salt on cloth

[full fossil]

chinese are clever :V

in europe they probably removed teeths with rock

[normal cargo]

Did it work tho

[unkempt widget]

if only they were clever enough to figure out that maybe, just maybe, the monarchy is the reason why wars result in so much death

[normal cargo]

Looking at the shit they dig up they just carried on

[unkempt widget]

the tang dynasty were almost there at reforming warfare to stop including 90% of soldiers as peasants

and 10% professionals

[full fossil]

lol

[unkempt widget]

but they had to ruin it by being a monarchy with their stupid court culture

and then lots of fighting happened and then the song dynasty came about

[normal cargo]

That was just a period of peace tho ?, You could say the same about the Tudor's (which was a monarchy)

[unkempt widget]

and then the song dynasty got fucked in the rare by the mongolians, who copied the chinese and became chinese (or at least kublai and sons became chinese)

and then the ming came along and did a bunch of stuff

and then the manchus got mad at them and overthrew them

only for the manchus to copy the han anyways, and become han, but still somehow hate han people

and then they screwed up

and now look where china is
smart enough to brush their teeth, stupid enough to not embrace a better form of government

wow everyone left because i was being boring and ranting

[normal cargo]

Lol, I just think it's a bit rose tinted. Europe had extended periods of peace nnall til some Billy big bollocks decided to flip his shit. It's not like the tang dynasty were afraid of using power for anyone that didn't fall within their sphere of influence

I bet they called it VCR tho

[full fossil]

less history, more code :V

[rare horizon]

[unkempt widget]

extended periods of peace during when exactly?

sure, one region could've had extended periods of peace, but not europe as a whole

the romans kept fucking up somewhere, the medieval era, well was the medieval era, and early modern era had the ottomans fucking up europe

as well as the europeans fucking up europe

damn the europeans, they ruined europe

[full fossil]

humans ruined earth :V

[unkempt widget]

no, earth by itself ruined itself

[full fossil]

true lol

[unkempt widget]

mother nature are fighting against us because mother nature hates everyone

just like how my mother hates me
(that was not serious)

[normal cargo]

The Tudor's dynasty sprang to mind, the Romans had a long period of peace n all that encapsulated most of Europe, and like I said the tang dynasty wasn't afraid of using force for anyone who fell outside their sphere of influence

[unkempt widget]

tudor's dynasty didn't mean the entirety of europe
ig roman era, but that wasn't all peaceful

there were still a lot of border skirmishes and stuff during that time

[rare horizon]

Earths natural systems have beautiful ways of regulating themselves as life adapts to new realities. Humans disruot the balance of nature more than any other lifeform.

[unkempt widget]

no, the earth should've adapted to humans

[normal cargo]

I think people forget how long Roman history is mind. Border skirmishes yes, but the only way for the whole of Europe to be peaceful would be if they were under one dynasty, which it never was. So I'm comparing dynasties to dynasties. And this happened in other parts of Europe too

[unkempt widget]

a being is smart enough to overcome nature's bullshit, nature should overcome our bullshit

[rare horizon]

U trolling right?

[full fossil]

WE ARE NATURE

we came from earth

[unkempt widget]

yes i am

[normal cargo]

So the Romans had problems with German tribes no doubt, but their MO was tribal raiding, so kinda a given but on the whole the Romans ruled with trade

[unkempt widget]

there were multiple dynasties under the romans though

[normal cargo]

Aye and you can pick a number

[unkempt widget]

pre-empire rome was quite the opposite of peaceful

i don't know much about roman empire but i don't think transitions to power were much very peaceful

[normal cargo]

Aye but it spans a long ass time, and it's debatable to what degree n all

[stray apex]

Wasn't Rome literally constantly at war

[jaunty compass]

I'm playing HZD and it gives me major fallout 2 vibes

[unkempt widget]

400 years isn't very long (compared to china at least), and there were several wars i can think of

especially at the beginning and at the end of the empire

[stray apex]

Like I'm pretty sure it's easier to count the times Rome wasn't at war

[stray apex]

Different Chinese dynasties are also so vastly different over time that they're barely even the same thing

[unkempt widget]

i was talking about how deadly china was

and i was blaming it on the court culture

[normal cargo]

For the most part it was, the republic wanted to control through trade then when caesar flipped his shit it all went to shit, but there was periods where power transitioned peacefully between generations

[unkempt widget]

the republic was also very not peaceful

[normal cargo]

Romans were around for around 1000 years

[unkempt widget]

i was talking about the empire specifically

[normal cargo]

Like I said, they controlled through trade, but so did the tang dynasty

[unkempt widget]

controlled who

[normal cargo]

Greeks, gauls, Egyptians,.middle east, Macedonia etc

[wary summit]

ahh yes I want some "fiesh" salmon

[unkempt widget]

they controlled them directly though

[summer folio]

I liked the roman bath house anime:
Thermae Romae Novae

[full fossil]

theres people in tech chat 1 saying that 400$ is not cheap for a 3080

[normal cargo]

It depends what era you're in, the republic didn't control any of that. In the empire, caesar flipped his shit and took Gaul and Egypt, but like I said, it's a period of 1000 years that saw extended periods of peace

[unkempt widget]

the deal was 480 you numbfuck

[full fossil]

its a 3080

[unkempt widget]

so?

its msrp is 600, now it's last gen and also second hand

[jaunty compass]

so far horizon zero dawn is actually quite good, i'm glad i decided to actually start it

[tired glade]

So,how is character motivation for your taste?

[summer folio]

Theres a story? presses skip

[tired glade]

Even when you skip,you feel it

[jaunty compass]

The story is quite good so far but I'm one of those people who goes brrrr with the spear

I just killed the first corruptor and it's like 4 am so I'm wrapping it up and going to bed

[tired glade]

Oh, I wish I was young again

[jaunty compass]

My sleep schedule has been fucked for months lol

[normal cargo]

Has it ever been MSRP ?, Lol (outside of FE). Going rate is around 500 of the kings notes in these parts, for 2nd hand

[unkempt widget]

at launch yes

[normal cargo]

Can get a palit for like 650 new

[unkempt widget]

a 20% price down for used isn't impressive tbh

[normal cargo]

A slim 1 month pre order window for an aib maybe

[azure falcon]

Think getting $1340 for a corolla is decent

[fervent prairie]

I can get a new 6950xt for 699€. Idk about you, but that 3080 pricing ain't great

[normal cargo]

Aye new there's a palit for around 680 but the rest are around 700+, more like 750. I mean it's not great but it's not terrible, for 480

[normal cargo]

This is the sensible option

[azure falcon]

Probably going to sell my corolla and 1340 is what I would get

[jaunty compass]

So for horizon really reminds me of fallout 2

[azure falcon]

Not worth repairing my car

[tired glade]

3080 10gb is 870€

Oh,7900xtx back in stock

[jaunty compass]

That's way too much

[normal cargo]

Indeed

[azure falcon]

Engine in corolla had a catastrophic failure

[tired glade]

6900xt is 670

[fervent prairie]

Bah, a 7900xt is 849€ here

[tired glade]

Haha

4080 starts at 1454€

[normal cargo]

Clown pricing

[tired glade]

7900xtx 1243€

Nice,1630 is 147€

Value

Yea,4090 is 1999€

[full fossil]

is 730$ good for a used 3090

[tired glade]

Kinda

[full fossil]

like usd$

[normal cargo]

Seriously if this is your price point then 6950xt new would prolly be better

[tired glade]

It's more about it's 3090,you need good PSU with it

6950xt won't be that picky

[full fossil]

alr

are there any like white 6950xt's

[unkempt widget]

yes it will but sure

[tired glade]

Get 7900xt, if it in same price point

[unkempt widget]

paint it white

[full fossil]

i live in an apartmemt

[jaunty compass]

Plastidip

[full fossil]

and dont have paint or plastidip

[unkempt widget]

paint it white outside

buy it

[tired glade]

It will take you a few hours,over hunting white GPU

[normal cargo]

Gotta pay the white tax too

[sonic robin]

night y'all

[tired glade]

Night

[unkempt widget]

that could be taken out of context

[normal cargo]

It does have an oppressive feeling

[fossil karma]

Someone help me, changing cpu and my cpu cooler is stuck

like its on there

like its stuck from where the thermal paste is

[fervent prairie]

What CPU? If it's am4 turn it without pulling or you might rip the CPU out with the cooler

[manic torrent]

eh, everything ends. everything that ever lived and died on earth will return to dust from whence we came.

[manic torrent]

yep, white is less choice, more money

[tired glade]

That sounds bad

[manic torrent]

it is what it is

I'm trying to finish my crane RN. I already fixed up a whole lot of cabling for my server and stereo and cameras

[fossil karma]

got help in chat 2, but ye am4, tried to twist, wont even move, now in bios trying to heat up the paste

[wary summit]

bro ceramic feels so nice

[wary summit]

send finished I wanna see this monitor

[dusty rune]

called the IHS

[summer folio]

how?

[dusty rune]

am4 cpus do that

[wary summit]

do what

[fossil karma]

Thermal paste hardened or something

[dusty rune]

stick to coolers

[wary summit]

ahh, yea I pull the CPu out with the cooler attached

then get a flathead and pry it off

[manic torrent]

Gotta mount this, tension the rotational stepper, and do some wiring

[wary summit]

did that to my clients 3200H

[wary summit]

cncd?

fuck discord compression

[manic torrent]

Nah random leftover shit in the bits box

[wary summit]

it looks molded when I open it 😒😒

imma go play with my 15 coc

[dusty rune]

oh btw, for anyone interested in some cheap games, jedi fallen order is 3$ on epic games rn

[fossil karma]

oh nice

ty

[manic torrent]

I hate cheap games

[dusty rune]

well the full price isnt that cheap but its on a 90% sale

[tulip palm]

BOYS

[young root]

jedi fallen order is bad

[tulip palm]

will an 8700k bottleneck an rx 6800

[young root]

prob

[tulip palm]

ryzen 5 5500?

whats the worst cpu which wont bottleneck rx 6800

[young root]

at 1080p it will slightly, at 1440 it won't

[tulip palm]

its not a good game doe

[young root]

so keep what you have

[tulip palm]

i have 1 1080p 120hz monitor 💀

i dont even have a 4k TV

ITS OK I GUESS

[dusty rune]

mb caps

[tulip palm]

not worth even the 3 bucks tho

[dusty rune]

its fine

[dusty rune]

it is

[manic torrent]

every time you say bottleneck, baby jesus dies.

[tulip palm]

i know its 3 bucks but if you wont even get the enjoyment of that 3 bucks why buy it

[tulip palm]

tf

[dusty rune]

i got some enjoyment out of my 8 bucks

[manic torrent]

every system anywhere with any configuration has a "bottleneck"

[young root]

i was playing legally obtained copies of switch games this morning

my 7900xtx bottlenecks my 5900x at 1440p

i think i'm gonna return it and get the red devil fr

fucker is 4 slots, 3 of them being fins

thick ass fins

[tired glade]

Maybe get 5800x3d?

Or you need those 12 cores?

[young root]

what

[manic torrent]

maybe just cry

[young root]

why would i replace my 5900x

[tired glade]

5800x3d faster

[young root]

i don't care 😐

[tired glade]

Oh

[fervent prairie]

Sounded like you did

[young root]

read that again

[full fossil]

yeeaahh..... :D :D :D

I "trust" you

[young root]

my gpu bottlenecks my cpu

let me go get a 7990xtx

[manic torrent]

which means what

[young root]

if i get a faster cpu nothing will happen

[manic torrent]

it's a stupid word, that is abused and it's stupid

[manic torrent]

garbage.

it depends entirely on the game/workload

[tired glade]

7950xtx will be in December/January, maybe

Plus we waiting for that new Titan and 4090 ti

[young root]

in call of duty cold war my 7900xtx is the main bottleneck in my system

[tired glade]

Oh,cod

[manic torrent]

.... it isn't a bottleneck though

[young root]

the component not letting me reach 400 fps at ultra is my 7900xtx, hence it being a bottleneck

[manic torrent]

the idea of a bottleneck is a severe limitation on overall performance, limited by the poor comparative performance

[fervent prairie]

X to doubt.
That's just cod game engine being rubbish. And AMD actually runs better than Nvidia. You basically already have the best GPU for the game

[manic torrent]

You are simply experiencing a normal limit of one or other parts of your hardware in terms of performance.

[tired glade]

For now*

Are you playing with vsync?

[young root]

what do you mean being trash? it's literally every setting on ultra at ~230 fps

[tired glade]

Cod not using hardware on full potential

[young root]

the bottleneck of my car reaching 120 mph is it's governor of 108mph

my gpu is the governor

[manic torrent]

......... that is the worst analogy I've ever heard

[young root]

what

[manic torrent]

in the history of computing, AND analogies

[tired glade]

Or maybe he is about AMD getting more fps than Nvidia

[manic torrent]

your car has a software limit on how fast it goes. it's not a bottleneck. A rally car has a bottleneck in the restrictor plate.

[fervent prairie]

You should get a couple more fps with a better CPU. Idk where you get the GPU bottleneck from if the game engine just doesn't let you go further.

[young root]

i'm sure my gpu sucking back 450 watts at max utilization will at all benefit from a better cpu

[manic torrent]

"anything that limits performance of anything in any way is a bottleneck"

[tired glade]

Wait,how you made 7900xtx use 450w?

[young root]

i have the asrock card

power limit +15= 446 or something around that

[tired glade]

You have good GPU

[tired glade]

Oh, my

Yea,you got gold sample

I would get water block

[young root]

i'll pass

realistically when the 7950xtx drops i'll replace it with that

[normal cargo]

I see 95

[fervent prairie]

2100mhz only. That's kinda low, most do 2700mhz.

[young root]

that was at the beginning of a stress test

like .05 seconds in

[tired glade]

Don't forget, there are 2 clocks now

[young root]

my intake is my aio so it sits around 81c while gaming

[tired glade]

There are rumours about double stack AMD GPU since early days of rDNA3 , maybe there won't be 7950xtx

[young root]

i was taking a 20 minute break in the bathroom so i gotta go

[tired glade]

Have good day

[slate wing]

Double stack amd gpu? What does that even mean?

[tired glade]

3d chips,but not with cache,but with full GPU

[unkempt widget]

there's always a bottleneck

[tired glade]

Like Nvidia doing on high end ai accelerators

[tired glade]

Yea, it's called bordem

[slate wing]

That would mean they would have to run them slower/sell more die space for the same performance

[tired glade]

No clue

It's still top secret

[slate wing]

I mean it’s already a issue with 3DVcache

[tired glade]

We don't know how multi gpu will looks like,even Nvidia still sampling their tech

Looking at 7000 and their chiplets,it will be way more complicated than 3d cache

[slate wing]

Thicker die == worse heat transfer, that’s just a fact

[tired glade]

And still we have 4090 and 3+ slot

Nvidia accelerators don't have fans,they must be used with wind tonnes

[slate wing]

That’s just what servers use lol

Makes repair faster/easier

[tired glade]

You can cooled 1000w gpu other wise

Accelerator, they not GPUs anymore

[slate wing]

Do you mean you can’t? I’m confused about your point

[neon mesa]

Nvidia tesla accelerator can still be used like a normal gpu

using iGPU passthrough for display output

[slate wing]

Because the first generation of Tesla was rebranded maxwell iirc?

[ornate granite]

hi

i bought used pc for cheap price and i wanted to test the gpu in it, is there any good software that will help me with that?

[neon mesa]

EA app is absolute dogwater

[dusty rune]

furmark

[summer folio]

1337

[tardy bramble]

do people here help fix computer issues?

[wispy marsh]

What's that?

[tardy bramble]

my cpu fan is acting weird

[wispy marsh]

I've never heard of this computer thing before

[graceful burrow]

If only there was a sidebar showing channels that might have something you're looking for

Oh look
#1027757333117415424

[tardy bramble]

aith thanks ill cheack that out

[graceful burrow]

Who put that there

[tardy bramble]

i dont know

[wispy marsh]

Tech support?

[graceful burrow]

Never heard of it

[wispy marsh]

They'll fix my slow iPhone, right?

I've been using it for the last couple of years and it's been slow

It's this little thing with siri, they say

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