public-chat

[polar fern]

Mhm

[hexed walrus]

didnt know steam deck was made by microsoft

[clever frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/844335712680804393/1079294848680599632/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613.gif

why dont i have embeds

[vapid smelt]

Because you don't have a credit card

[clever frost]

bro do i have to pay for embeds?

[vapid smelt]

For only #public-chat others you can be broke and have embeds

[clever frost]

oh

[agile lake]

alright, which staff member put the runescape meme in the latest video script

out the player

oh no i was gonna call them a filthy main 😛

with some /s

[sonic spruce]

I need an Ethernet cable, does Amazon make good reliable cables?

Amazon Basics RJ45 Cat-6 Ethernet Patch Internet Cable - 10 Foot (3 Meters), Black https://a.co/d/f7nRczg

[lilac sage]

I gotta tell you, nothing that special about ethernet cables

[vapid smelt]

It murdered my family

[lilac sage]

is it reliable? probably

[trim robin]

well some crapy ones can be crapy and not last long, but for the most part its just gona be ok.

[lilac sage]

good? probably cat6 speed capable

will it support you hanging from it? probably not

be careful in that scenario

[hearty steppe]

Wait what

[hexed walrus]

yeah lmao

[fluid ridge]

amazon basics makes some surprisingly good quality stuff lol

[vapid smelt]

I use a amz basic table top fan

Pretty nice fan

[golden talon]

amazon basic is op

buy something cheap, hit return on amazon

most of the time they dont even ask for it back

[fluid ridge]

[golden talon]

Did this with my HDMI to DP cable

[fluid ridge]

wait what? if i want to return anything on amazon i have to print out the label and send it back

then they carelessly look in the box you send them and as long as it remotely resembles what you bought you get a refund

[golden talon]

when i have to return something i just take whatevers left of the product and drop it off at a return center

employees dont even look at it they just wrap it up in plastic

[fluid ridge]

i dont direct return to amazon

i need to go through purolator, fedex, or canada post

[golden talon]

amazon partners with a bunch of local stores so we give it to the stores and the stores give it to amazon

[brave lodge]

What is y’all’s fav spring weight

Keyboard

[sonic barn]

Brown

I tried em all

Blue is annoying

[harsh pike]

i found an ipad 10 for $379, is that a good deal, or should i just go with another ipad

[sonic barn]

Too expensive

[harsh pike]

what do you reccemoned

[sonic barn]

Ebay

[harsh pike]

that was the best condition i found on ebay

open box untouched

[lilac sage]

wtf is an ipad 10?

[tired glade]

https://m.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_10_2_(2021)-11106.php

[lilac sage]

have we already reached 10 generations?

[tired glade]

This one?

[vapid smelt]

10th gen

[lilac sage]

damn

[vapid smelt]

I just touched the ipad 10th gen 4 mins ago at work I was disgusted by myself

[harsh pike]

is it that bad

[normal cargo]

Wash your hands

[vapid smelt]

Idfk it was in the box

[harsh pike]

bruh lol

[vapid smelt]

But the box was dirty and now my gloves are too

[golden talon]

you got the cooties from an ipad

[vapid smelt]

I did

[harsh pike]

lol

[vapid smelt]

M1 ipad can be had at $480 it seems open boxed ebay

[fluid ridge]

how can you trust an open box item is really open box

someone could have pooped on that ipad and cleaned it up real nice, returned it saying "i didnt use it"

[vapid smelt]

Hours on time for hdds/ssds

[eager venture]

So uh Newegg is a vtuber https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRW4th8P/

[harsh pike]

kinda broke lol

[manic torrent]

wtf is wrong with you

[vapid smelt]

Why do you "need" an ipad?

[harsh pike]

school lol

[vapid smelt]

What will the ipad accomplish that your phone can't, will it just be a quality of life improvement because of the larger size

[fair citrus]

apple pencil

it's nice for note taking

[fluid ridge]

what if it's something like a GPU

[vapid smelt]

A14 that stronk?

[harsh pike]

yeah, need a new ipad cause my other one is started to occasioanly crash with split screening of notability

[young root]

micro center wouldn't warranty my 6950xt so i had to do a return

time to buy a 7900xt

[vapid smelt]

Did it die?

[young root]

one fan was rubbing the chassis

[vapid smelt]

Easy fan replacement $15

[manic torrent]

if you can't handle the risk or complexities of buying second hand items, don't

[brave lodge]

Dog. I’m not asking about switches lol.

[young root]

i'm not spending 15$ for a 2 month old card lmao

i'm getting an upgrade

[vapid smelt]

Oh 2 months?!

[fluid ridge]

yep

[forest valve]

I'm not crazy, they changed the title of the PC fridge video right?

Before it was "our coolest tech ever" or something

I wasn't gonna watch it tbh

[manic torrent]

more or less all videos change title now, and icon, YT lets you do a/b testing and change it to the best one

[forest valve]

It's automatic?

[manic torrent]

to some degree, yeah

[forest valve]

Interesting

Video looked boring AF until the new title tbh

[cloud mulch]

does anyone remember the program that will remove graphics drivers/.

[forest valve]

DDU

[cloud mulch]

thanks

[forest valve]

This is their official site https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/Display-Driver-Uninstaller-DDU-V18061-Released

To avoid any of those weird download sites. You can also find it mirrored on guru3d

[young root]

getting an xtx

7900xtx asrock

[marsh carbon]

Im upgrading from 7980xe to 7950x3d, outside of xbox game bar and amd drivers do i need to do anything

[young root]

reinstall windows

[marsh carbon]

Do i need 11

[forest valve]

No

[young root]

no

[forest valve]

Install 10, 11 sucks

[marsh carbon]

Didnt know if i needed 11 because the diff cores

[gilded quest]

11 is fine

[young root]

11 is good

just worse than 10

[forest valve]

The amount of people who have gaming performance loss on 11 beg to differ

[marsh carbon]

Does 10 handle differing cores

[forest valve]

What do you mean

[gilded quest]

10 doesn't support intel hybrid core scheduling

I have no idea if 10 supports X3D scheduling

[forest valve]

Is x3d just for APU?

Or handling 3D tasks on CPU?

[gilded quest]

X3D refers to amd cpus with 3D V-cache

[forest valve]

What does that mean in non AMD terms

[normal cargo]

Vroom vroom

[lilac sage]

non AMD 3D means three dimensional

[gilded quest]

specifically, 7900X3D/7950X3D have a high clock die and a high cache die
they need a scheduler to help place programs on the appropriate die for the task

[young root]

fuck

[molten drift]

The cpu had stacked v cache.. it uses the ,3rd dimension not left and right on a flat plane...

[gilded quest]

fuck the gpu?

[molten drift]

I don't think I can...

[young root]

smash or pass

[lilac sage]

just for the cpu tasks. there was some false report that it helped the iGPU performance of the chips as well but this was proven false

[gilded quest]

oh shit

new nvidia driver today, right?

[forest valve]

Yea I'm reading some article that is saying some crap about 3D performance https://www.pcguide.com/cpu/what-does-x3d-mean-on-amd-cpus/ that's why I asked

[lilac sage]

3d vcache just means they stuck extra L3 cache on top of the cpu die->(the 3d part)

[summer folio]

aka L4 cache

[lilac sage]

I think L3 cache on the die is just as fast as that on the stacked chiplet

[summer folio]

i7-5775C

[lilac sage]

if its the same speed for accessing, what makes it L4?

[manic torrent]

https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/01/14/amds-v-cache-tested-the-latency-teaser/

[gilded quest]

My understanding is that 3D VCACHE was extra L3 cache, and the 5775C used embedded dram as an L4

[manic torrent]

yes, it's extra L3 cache, with SLIGHTLY increased latency, because physics

[lilac sage]

L3.5

or Lpi

[manic torrent]

yeah basically 🙂

[scarlet cipher]

Breh

[lilac sage]

Ill go with Lπ cache

[tired glade]

It's still 3 layer

Even tho it's way higher

[last solstice]

man I just wish people did more big brain shit like this on chip making

its gona drive the cost insanely high but I want it

[tired glade]

CPU and GPU stacking also incoming

[last solstice]

bro just stack everything

[tired glade]

And ddr ram to HBM memory also incoming

[last solstice]

I wana put ram on top of my cpu

[tired glade]

Yes, that was main selling point after 5 nm that TSMC propose

Even tho, white papers dates to 2014

[last solstice]

quesiton

[tired glade]

No one really knows how it will look

[last solstice]

soo the 3d v cache is on top of the cache part of the core right ?

or is it right on top of the cores itslef

[tired glade]

Yes

Covering all of core

[last solstice]

aa ok

[tired glade]

At least, how AMD tells

[last solstice]

so it should be the same size as the die

[tired glade]

They are shaving heat spreader to make it fit

And less conductive material on chip itself

[native crag]

Because the core's voltage has to be locked with the extra cache, that limits the clock rate, and not limited due to thermals

I would have thought the 2nd gen of 3D cache would have de-coupled the voltage from the core

[last solstice]

3rd gen ig

[tired glade]

5800x3d was unlocked

Power consumption went though the roof

There is more to story then just voltages

[last solstice]

this is the only time I kinda agree with manufacturers locking down the hardware.

[native crag]

So, the 5800x3d is max 4.5Ghz, and 5800x is 4.7

[last solstice]

I mean I hate it everywhere. I will hate it if they keep loking it. but like atleast they have a good reason

[tired glade]

Most of the hardware is max out from the factory, anyway

[last solstice]

i would like to know how uner volting performs thou

[native crag]

Because the x3d isn't thermal constrained, it shouldn't clock any faster just because the thermals are lower. If anything, it could introduce errors and cause hitching

[tired glade]

Cache primary made from copper

And you know, everything is silicone

[native crag]

Different node. SRAM doesn't scale well the smaller it gets, unlike normal logic gates

[native crag]

silicon

[tired glade]

What's difference?

[native crag]

lol, go google it

[tired glade]

So, what's difference?

[native crag]

"Silicone or polysiloxane is a polymer made up of siloxane. They are typically colorless oils or rubber-like substances. Silicones are used in sealants, adhesives, lubricants, medicine, cooking utensils, thermal insulation, and electrical insulation."

Silicon is basically refined sand

[tired glade]

Yes, it's in name

[native crag]

It's also an element of Si

Silicone is not an element padre

[tired glade]

What's silicone than

[native crag]

#public-chat message

[tired glade]

So, what's silicon without e?

[native crag]

Silicon is an element. An atom by itself. Know the Periodic table?

[tired glade]

So what's with e?

[native crag]

Silicone is a molecule. A substance made up of differing types of atoms in an atomic chain.

[tired glade]

Molecule used for electronic

[native crag]

In pure form, atoms. But yes, there are alloys and plastics used in electronics are are in fact molecules (plastics are a type of hydrocarbon)

What grade are you in? Learn basic chemistry yet?

[tired glade]

So, it should be used with e

[native crag]

You're riding a fine line between being ignorant and outright trolling.

[tired glade]

I mean, e if you use molecule and I am about not elements, but molecules

[native crag]

IC (integrated circuits, aka chips) are made of almost purely atomic Si (silicon) atoms. They're doped with minute traces of boron atoms too

[tired glade]

And it's 3d gate, with sacrificial layer

And also don't talk about sub trade

[native crag]

But the atomic structure is not silicone. That's the stuff used in bathtub sealants 🤣

From a tube

[cloud horizon]

hi guys

[tired glade]

Hey

[native crag]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-8-oz-Silicone-Tube-12-Pack-GE-57-12/202038096

[cloud horizon]

[graceful burrow]

"just a little off the top"

[tired glade]

7/10

Clean

[native crag]

It's a convertible

[past egret]

topless computers

[native crag]

Ok, topless if it's missing the hardtop

[young root]

the new gpu looks awful

[vapid smelt]

You CPU block is at the highest point of the loop the air bubbles that are in the loop will get stuck in the pump and slowly kill it

Just move your radiator up 2 more inches

[native crag]

The CPU pump needs to be turned 90 degrees to the right

The tubes connecting to the pump should be on the right side of it, not on top

[golden talon]

you mean clockwise?

[native crag]

Yeah

Also @vapid smelt is correct, raise the rad an inch or so higher if you can.

Turning the pump clockwise 90 degrees might be enough, but do both if you can

[nocturne crypt]

where is the march third and FEB 24th wan show?

[young root]

ngl

i'm not gonna movie it

[vapid smelt]

You will just lower the lifespan of a overpriced Corsair aio not the end of the world

[young root]

it was 50$

with the fans

[vapid smelt]

Used?

[young root]

yep

it's pretty good ngl

[tulip mason]

where the fug did you get a Capellix Elite H115 for $50?!

[fluid ridge]

I am looking through FB marketplace right now, and there's a flood of new and in box, sealed airpod pros for absurdly low prices

does anyone know how they're doing this, because they can't all be scammers (some are rated pretty well)

all of them are gen 1 pros too

was there a deal at costco or something that i missed out on

[tulip mason]

Just saw someone, on the Toronto side of FBMarket trying to sell a OnePlus 7 Pro for CA$800

[native crag]

Hand crafted earwax removal.

[full fossil]

guys ROG Delta s or fusion 500 ?

[fluid ridge]

i messaged some of them and they've sent me pictures of sealed boxes + serial numbers

which i checked were legitimate

[native crag]

I'm sure they did a good job cleaning

Or it was a five finger discount

[ebon otter]

will 3 1030s make a 3090 in preformance?

[fluid ridge]

no

[ebon otter]

BUT WHY

the math checks out

[rose plover]

Why are the Google Nest Minis not supported by Wi-fi 6? Can someone explain exactly why? We've tried numerous reboots and finally a factory reset. We just installed a TP-Link AX-1800, and the only thing that won't connect are a Google Nest Mini Speaker, and a Google Mini Home. After typing in the Wi-fi password, then tapping connect, the thing just spins and spins. I already turned of Smartconnect on the router's control program, and still no dice!! Anyone know any helpful pointers?

[fluid ridge]

my brother the numbers Nvidia uses in their naming convention means jack shit

1030 is a series of arbitrary numbers some exec at nvidia thought was cool

it doesnt mean 1030 cuda cores or 1030 horsepower

[tulip mason]

Damn, James is staying late at work today.

[fluid ridge]

perhaps try getting a wifi 6 network

im also pretty sure most of the smart home speakers dont have direct internet access but proxy through your smartphone

[rose plover]

hmm, wouldn't it be a wifi 6 network if I'm running a wifi 6 router?

they are

[fluid ridge]

i have a homepod mini and it says "please make sure your phone and homepod are connected on the same network"

[rose plover]

oh yeah, you can only do it with your phone through Google Home

[graceful burrow]

does the nest minis even support wifi 6 kek

oh wow these search results are so muddied

because google released a separate product called the nest mini wifi and that supports wifi 6 kek

[ebon otter]

does 4.173469387755102 980s make a 4090?

[heady flicker]

no

why would they

[full fossil]

What is the rtx 4060 laptop gpu equivalent to desktop wise?

A 3060 desktop right?

[wind pulsar]

Nah, not even close lmao

[full fossil]

3050?

[full fossil]

i think its stronger

then 3060

[wind pulsar]

No lmao

[full fossil]

really

[wind pulsar]

It's roughly on par with a 1660 Super

[full fossil]

no way

[wind pulsar]

So 3050 is realistic

[full fossil]

what is 3050 laptop equivalent to?

[marsh jungle]

i've seen simple geekbench scores for the 4060 laptop gpu and it isn't great

[tepid bolt]

1660ti laptop

[pulsar violet]

Have y’all seen the article of the AMD Apple Exclusive beating the 4080 when modified

[north escarp]

The what👀

[full fossil]

but 4060 is on the par with 1660??

So, whats the best value GPU in laptops right now? Probably last generation 3060s?

[tepid bolt]

Maybe if it's a low wattage model

[finite cloud]

The 60 and 50 are pretty similar

[heady flicker]

that's pretty impressive, although I'm not sure about the power consumption

[wind pulsar]

The laptop 4060 isn't a desktop 4060 soldered onto a laptop board, it's much weaker than that lol

[random jolt]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad107.g1015
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060-mobile.c3946

[ebon otter]

is a 5700xt 10x better than a rx 570?

[wind pulsar]

😐

[full fossil]

im aware of that im wondering is it on the par with 3000s desktop series

[wind pulsar]

No, lol

[tepid bolt]

The 4060 laptop is roughly like a 3070 laptop

[wind pulsar]

At best it beats a 3050 4GB

[finite cloud]

Also that yeah

[neat gull]

what is the floatplane pilot role?

[ebon otter]

when will the 6090 come out😉

[marsh jungle]

my laptop 3060 in some cases beats my other 3060 desktop machine

[full fossil]

what does 3050 laptop equals to

[pulsar violet]

Here’s the article: https://wccftech.com/apple-specific-amd-radeon-pro-w6800x-duo-tested-5000-gpu-loses-to-nvidias-1600-us-rtx-4090/amp/

[north escarp]

It's like a premium youtube I think but floatplane is its own site

[full fossil]

@wind pulsar

[wind pulsar]

Doubt

[finite cloud]

When you’re subscribed to Floatplane and link your discord, you get the role and a chat along with image perms in this chat

[neat gull]

i know what floatplane is im just wondering what the "floatpoolane pilot" role is

[vapid smelt]

You must be high or have a CPU bottleneck

[neat gull]

oh ok thx

[tepid bolt]

From what I can find online at full wattage a 4060 laptop is 18% faster than a full wattage 3060 laptop

[vapid smelt]

Fp sub

[finite cloud]

You’re welcome

[marsh jungle]

https://youtu.be/Cwn963tsZVw

[tepid bolt]

So basically 4060 mobile = 3070 mobile

[wind pulsar]

More or less a desktop 1650

[marsh jungle]

dammit not ranked enough for youtube embeds

[wind pulsar]

And guess why I'm not clicking on that link

[finite cloud]

If you’re comparing to something from ali express than yeah id expect anything to beat that

[full fossil]

And 3070 mobile equals desktop 1660ti?

[wind pulsar]

:)

[tepid bolt]

Nah, the 1650 mobile is already really close to the 1650 desktop since they're both low powered

[vapid smelt]

1650 desktop was barely better than the 1050ti desktop

[finite cloud]

It’s not a rick roll if you’re wondering

[marsh jungle]

the 3060 desktop and 3060 laptop perform almost the same

[full fossil]

how

[random jolt]

for mobile gpus, the power/cooling limit matters more than the gpu most of the time tbh

[wind pulsar]

They don't, that's an Aliexpress card the guy has there

With questionable drivers as well

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-you-high-ms-pat-the-ms-pat-show-are-you-high-are-you-out-of-your-mind-gif-22509537

[neat gull]

ima need what he smokin fr

[north escarp]

From vids I've seen its usually a 30%+- drop from desktop to mobile

[tepid bolt]

At full wattage the mobile 3070 is like a desktop 2060

[steep girder]

Imagine at the turn of a century every significant super power has a revolution at pretty much the exact same time. Every one of the was imperial and got overthrown by socialists or communists -- they go by one of the two always unless it's both interchangeably for some reason

[south stone]

I think the only one keeping its performance its the 1050 ti, no? Like both are equal (mobile / desktop)

[finite cloud]

To be honest I didn’t know these two were different but now that I think about it, yeah the laptop ones being bottlenecked makes a lot of sense

[marsh jungle]

forgot to mention, desktop has i9-9900k

[neat gull]

Does Forza 5 use your real name?

[steep girder]

Then the few of which didn't normalize into anything other than socialism end up with the society at least not terrorized or starving lol. The governments which remained 'socialist' somehow starve or shoot literally half of the 'social' portion.

[vapid smelt]

Weak CPU

[full fossil]

how is it weak

[marsh jungle]

it's pretty fucking fast still

don't see what you mean

[north escarp]

Coopa just flexing his insaine cpu probs running that 12700 or smth

Threadripper

[young root]

fuck

[finite cloud]

It uses your Xbox name so whatever that is

[young root]

fuck... more.

[finite cloud]

Nice temps

[steep girder]

But a century later nobody even realizes the big coincidence lmfao. They just go on about systemic oppression because women supposedly have a lower median wage. Regardless of whether or not it's true: it's important to consider how there was some weird (don't say conspiratorial) event which prevented both men and women from getting life gapped

[young root]

i've never seen 450 watts

[young root]

my 6950xt did 330 at most

[vapid smelt]

R5 5600x

[north escarp]

Just teasin lol

[finite cloud]

9th gen is pretty old now yeah

[marsh jungle]

it took an i5 that long wow

[steep girder]

Best case scenario wage gap would be everybody has a gap between them and the riflemen. The gap is real too (they dug it out)

So yeah... verdict loominati?

[vapid smelt]

I5 11400f beats it in single core

[wary summit]

you know how Americans were supposed to adopt metric? well fuck thos pirates

[young root]

i'm a pirate

[wary summit]

I pirate Linus videos because fuck china

[steep girder]

Britain uses half metric half imperial

[vapid smelt]

Calling big brother now

[north escarp]

I don't understand but alright

[wary summit]

Big brother? isn't that an Australian tv show about hot girls and guys chilling and cheating on each other?

while creeps spy on them?

[vapid smelt]

From the book 1984 or whatever

[steep girder]

Also britain is the empire in imperial. Imagine using a system of which even the creators are switching from...

[marsh jungle]

i'm currently reading that book right now

george orwell is great

[vapid smelt]

Don't watch the movie

[marsh jungle]

animal farm better though

[steep girder]

So is aldous huxley. Basically orwell but with a more scientifically realistic future scenario. When he wasn't writing brave new world, he did like acid and dmt and wrote books about passages to other realms

[wary summit]

looks like the 4 black guys one girl photo

[marsh jungle]

Down With Big Brother

[elfin jetty]

[wary summit]

imma overclock my phone's OLED brb

[steep girder]

Then a band called the doors got their name from one of his titles. Thank you aldous. Thank you for my fear of globalist empire and at the same time break on through to the other side lmfao

[wary summit]

The fact I'm in an underground tunnel and have 5G full bars mMwave supprised me

when have you seen this in Australia?

[steep girder]

Never tried dmt but i hear it's a hella drug. You apparently can experience like 100 years of your life but then wake up because it was all a dream (then immediately go to jail and do not pass go because you went insane from it)

[wary summit]

we talking about the backrooms?

[wind pulsar]

A 9900K barely wins against a 12100 nowadays, lol

[steep girder]

What's scary is how they strived for big brother level surveillance and everybody pretty much knew about it. It's just that back then they didn't have the technology to make it possible. Today, we are finally starting to get to that point

Everybody I know says very soon our own privacy will be a commodity sold back to us at a premium

[marsh jungle]

🇨🇳

[steep girder]

But then again, VPNs, etc. We already have it

[wary summit]

9900K can't even beat my laptop CPU lmao

[marsh jungle]

I don't give a fuck about my web footprint

my life boring anyways for anyone spying on me

[wary summit]

I don't either, but people do. let them be

[steep girder]

Then yeah there's the great red starry banner where the covid lockdowns literally looked like half life 2

[wary summit]

and I'm in Wuhan rn

💀

[marsh jungle]

they have drones coming up to your window assuring you to stay inside

[steep girder]

Like lmfao anybody seen that video with three legged dog robot with megaphone taped to it

[wary summit]

that was staged but okay, we did use drones

[steep girder]

It was perfect capture of combine dystopian tech meets communist jankiness

[wary summit]

that dog, was a Xiaomi robo dog that any civilian can buy for 9999yuan, cheaper than your iphone

[past egret]

call me when CCP actually falls or stops being an asshole to everyone

[wary summit]

this?

[marsh jungle]

can it piss beer

[steep girder]

Yeah. Was one of the drones flying by windows of entire districts of people locked in apartments repeating messages 'dissuading from singing together'?

[wary summit]

Yes, but they translateed that wrong, they said stay indoors 💀

y'all know what Wuhan is right?

[steep girder]

That part was obvious lol.

[wary summit]

I just saw, a tank branded fake jeep ...

[steep girder]

A lot of countries incl US have labs with 'gain of function research'. I was reading about it back in like 2014. They also had a decontamination in the US side (but they already had the shields ready to go down and actually quarantined them 100% for like a couple weeks)

It involved treating through those glove screens etc. Nobody ended up leaking sars again and starting another epidemic lol

[hearty steppe]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-ultragear-27-oled-qhd-freesync-and-nvidia-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr10-displayport-hdmi-usb-black/6530357.p?skuId=6530357 I need opinions on this monitor before I buy it

[steep girder]

If virus was getting like genetically spliced and did come from wuhan, i guess they didnt react properly/on time

...

[sweet bison]

Dose anyone know where i can find a good turbo for a 200cc engine?

[past egret]

ebay motors

[marsh jungle]

all of my cars that i've bought were from ebay

[steep girder]

What 200cc motors? Is it carb? Because you need decent carb as well lol

[sweet bison]

No efi

Its efi

Its for a polaris rzr200

[marsh jungle]

do they sell turbo kits for that

[sweet bison]

Idk

[marsh jungle]

are you willing to fabricate your own headers n stuff

[sweet bison]

Yea

[steep girder]

Oh wow so 200cc but 4 stroke and electronic fuel injected lmfao. Hella enthusiast kart engine

[marsh jungle]

hmm

[steep girder]

I mean whatever you search for that engine which people claim is a valid build that works lol

Plus youll be flashing injector profile on 200cc engine?

So get the right .bin files off web in advance lol

Lmfao not saying i can predict future but https://evopowersports.com/products/2022-polaris-rzr-200-codeshooter-power-flash

Try flashing it first

[steep girder]

Idk cars and cameras always said gopowersports.com or whatever

Maybe order some turbo off of there and fit it. If the engine's manufacturer or some level assembly up to entire vehicle doesnt offer a turbo kit for it, you've just run out of 'they'

Or third parties but they need something to make an after market version of a system for lol. This leaves some turbo that can be fitted and works. Try a gokart parts site

[steep girder]

No freesync btw. Get any monitor without worrying about it.

[steep girder]

Yeah so far i found that the only kits that are 'for polaris rzr' are all 4000$ and up. Thats a hella lot for even for the ~150 whp increase some of them claim to add... but 300whp sounds like a lot for a pocket atv to begin with lmfao

4k is a turbo kit for a car lol

So just get a turbo that roughly fits from like motorcycle? Then retro fit it + flash profiles because you have to... on a 200cc kart :/

[hearty steppe]

You are saying not to buy it?

[grim ether]

does xiaomi dog have freesync

[steep girder]

Definitely not any kit. 'They' dont offer any kits at all to begin with from the looks of it. The sold ones look predatory on that very same fact. Basically call it there are no turbo kits for them. Also why does it keep mentioning some kid friendly factor everywhere about them lol

What is kid friendly about even 100hp to the wheel on atv with roll cage lmfao. And why do you want 300whp on it

[steep girder]

Yeah. It freely syncs you to china which syncs to combine citadel

[steep girder]

Every single kit related to performance is like ecu related. Try finding out how to flash its transmission and stuff idk. Speaking of which... what is even the transmission on yours

[azure falcon]

Well I got to get a new car

[steep girder]

Im saying buy any monitor that suits you without any regard for freesync, gsync, or any other whatever-sync. As long as it supports all the display refresh you need

[azure falcon]

Car had catastrophic engine failure

[steep girder]

I got to replace an 4.8L engine on oldermodel mercedes gl... which is cheaper than atv turbo kit apparently

[azure falcon]

Engine is more expensive than car is worth for me

[steep girder]

Cheaper. GL was 6 grand or so. Engine can be found apparently for 1. At first we thought it was 4 or even more in which case rust in peace GL 😦

[azure falcon]

Thanks Probably just going to sell for parts and buy a used G35

[steep girder]

1G just goes to show how nobody wants em lol. 2023 be a 4.7 or 8 whatever V8 lmao.

[azure falcon]

Good thing is it doesn't have cvt lol

[steep girder]

The shell parts was what i needed in a few key places as well... until the engine thing happened lol. Now I'm thinking drive in winter until the salt makes ground visible like in flinstones

[azure falcon]

Really wanted my true next car to be a porsche

[steep girder]

Is that the fixed gear thing with the shifting cone diff for transmission? I forget all the vts

[azure falcon]

an automatic transmission that can change seamlessly through a continuous range of gear ratios. This contrasts with other transmissions that provide a limited number of gear ratios in fixed steps.

Nissan actually stopped using cvt because of the cons

[steep girder]

Right exactly. I considered a car but it had that. I forget but it was one of those where you go manual or no point. Like wrx. But it wasnt. Mitsubishi or some crap

[azure falcon]

I would never trust a subie

[steep girder]

And the year did in fact still have manuals

[azure falcon]

Just because boxer engine is known for head gasket issues

[steep girder]

You dont trust wrx. You manually cut wheel wells, add camber till it looks like hovercraft and slam it; this is after you get rear weld diff and drift it for some reason

[azure falcon]

If I get this g35 probably only going to be temporary till I get my job promotion that I'm gunning for when it opens

[azure falcon]

I do love an old school AE86

[steep girder]

I mean maybe it's time to go back a decade instead of creeping forward year by year

[azure falcon]

Grew up watching Initial D

[steep girder]

Like 90s or so suzuki... is it still metal? Yes. Drives? Yes.

[azure falcon]

@steep girder would be a fun car to put a drift kit on

[steep girder]

Idk about toyota tbh. All I know is initial d and it's the box one with frog headlights

[azure falcon]

Yeah that AE86 is a legend in the drifting scene

[steep girder]

I just need a car to survive winter in canada and not care about or pay out the wazoo for. Drifting i did a few times on rwd manual when i had the chance

[azure falcon]

Awd drifting in the AE86

[steep girder]

I mean last one was on bmw wagon rainy pavement broad daylight. It was left signal off ramp to road with people stopped on both sides. It was safe i guess since nobody else was going lol

[azure falcon]

God my buddy has a nice bmw

[steep girder]

(Unless i overshot and flipped over guard rail back onto freeway i guess... or undershot into median or moreso into cars lol)

[steep girder]

It was wagon with granny exhaust... but manual

[azure falcon]

Buddies bmw is an F90 M5

[steep girder]

Tbh it was xdrive not rwd. Shouldnt have drifted i think

[azure falcon]

I'd want to try drifting if I ever get a porsche or rally

[steep girder]

But the way i drove it the rear diff i think really began to skip lmfao. It's like slipping when you accelerate because its pulling haha.

[azure falcon]

Porsche I'd get is a 911 turbo s

[steep girder]

Porsche if its a Carrera manual, i think make sure you just let go of clutch with no gas lol

[azure falcon]

One I'm looking at is an awd automatic

[steep girder]

When you start moving. Because you can burn it out quick apparently. Idk what that means exactly but its gotta be insane.

[azure falcon]

Think it retails like 200k new

Might be 220k

[steep girder]

A guy took bam margeras porsche for joyride while it was shipping to him and he claims that clutch needed replacement... wtf

(Or he's just a diva and wants it factory idk)

[azure falcon]

I used to like bam but he's turned into such a tool

[steep girder]

Then again fkn shipping yard worker drives your retail car lol

[azure falcon]

That would piss me off to no end tho

[steep girder]

Its a carrera that should have 0.000miles on it

[steep girder]

Theres a video where they take revenge and paint bucket his car lol

Of all porsches you jack bam's... you know next time you wake up its in portapotty and theres like rocket booster strapped to you

[azure falcon]

One porsche I've got my eye on has 530 bhp

[steep girder]

As opposed to what? Tbh 530 sound kinda high. Then again not sure to this day. I beat people with a couple hundred or more hp before because i didnt have to shift... and they did lol

But if the race went on i'd lose because after hitting that 60mph the turbo wears off and the other things like wind kick in lmfao

And that bimmer granny wagon even. Tbh some asian guy and his girl were pulled up beside me on 2 lane left turn. They like laughed immediately. Look at this russian lookin bum on old bimmer but its hatchback + narrowest exhaust on the planet

He was wearing like tuxedo and they were balling in i think new black mercedes. We wait for arrow as always somehow knowing it's race time lol. I beat him from the outside turn wheels skirting; had to kind of jerk wheel because felt like slip would have happened

But yeah everything fair and square like a pro: neutral foot off clutch until light changed and no head starts. Then like shifted to 2 towards the end. I won because again he was auto and i was manual (and didnt mess up at all pretty much)

The granny exhaust wagon bmw was funny though

[steep girder]

Theres supposedly a cheapest year 911 only because of the body. You can get it for not even 30 grand or less now. It's because people don't like the headlights or something

Then again, could be all sold at this point. If it's a cheaper porsche...
But premium german makes man: youre level 9001 until you get a single dent. Then you go instantly to laughing stock because german car cant not be flawless. So replace all those bmw or mercedes parts which are more expensive. Meanwhile civic coupe like sand off half of the roof and it's fine. At the end of the day, write it off as weight reduction bro. But then it rips because still standard + 5 million aftermarket parts available. And you can swap engines n sht. You know what you cant do on merc gl? My mech told me no but some others might fit... but not worth hassle because computer will reject them lmfao. Then theres the anti stick surface inside of mirror so you cant even tape it on

If it's automatic and all, youd think it at least prevents you from shifting into r while rolling forward too (careful true story) Like drive to neutral without stopping then park or R. It lets you.

But yeah that was fine. I broke the timing chain somehow. Engine needs some degree of rebuild or swap. 1g isn't too bad if it doesnt die within first few years. Winter beater mercedes can live on. Kinda sad though. Has nav and power seats, heated, two sun roofs, disc changer, etc. Not bad for 07. The map is stored on dvd in console slot. Like 8 audio disc in glove and one under rear right seat (lol). Tv is broken and so is dvd player under seat. Console i didnt know had disc until i found button that opens it and turns like knight rider. Secret slots.

How tf does entire player header automatically open/close on hinge still 16 years later. Mercedes secret I guess. It's good to access nav dvd because maps dont load in foggy weather. Disc doesnt read. And given that its still authentic one in there im not even gonna bother burning one. Copy protected 1000%

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/223469361690?hash=item3407cfda1a:g:WXsAAOxyM1VRXkTF

[steep girder]

I digress. If youre keeping an eye on a porsche im assuming its older than retail for sure. In which case I guess. Other than that, I have a guy in the building i work who keeps saying stuff like 'were retail tier' or 'imagine not getting sports car retail'. Then I think he was the one that showed up w new porsche. I mean it's flashy and new. Hella expensive. If you have the money for that, definitely a statement about how rich you are. But he sounded like buyers remorse showing off reving sound to friends and has clearly enough money for it retail... yet still goes every day to office lol. So could be he bought it to show off but it's hundreds of grand for a car that he drove off lot and lost at least a few dozen lmao. Then sunken cost fallacy should kick in but doesnt for some reason because first few miles. Then the transmission: automatic... I hope theres at least that manual pseudo-shifting mode. Powerful cars, yes. But no access to it because it shifts up. Sport mode if you can flash separately is best case scenario after that maybe. But retail 200,000 car i would consider if i had like 20 mill perhaps and was willing to basically rain down on plebs with hunnids

But unlike actually throwing bills, the plebs cant catch any money and can only stand at the side with rancor waiting for you to back into something lol. Tbh sport mode 500bhp made it easy :p

[idle skiff]

did someone say initial d

im here

[steep girder]

I like the techno song from it. Never watched the animu or read manga

[idle skiff]

they made the anime into a set of 3 movies in the 2010's if you ever want to catch up

the sequel is getting a show that comes out this year

[steep girder]

I'll bet you that year ae86 is insanely rare and expensive af... just because its the one from initial d

[idle skiff]

with modern day sports cars

main character uses a GT86

[idle skiff]

yeah people will pay 20k for a rusty corolla bc of the anime tax

[steep girder]

True but ae86 is somehow popular because of it... all i know. Tbh i knew initial d separately because of song and always wondered why ae86 is so hype. Then someone told me because of initial d lol

But dont the cars like also shoot or transform or something? I remember it being explained more like twisted metal drifting but anime

[idle skiff]

you are thinking of James Bond and Transformers

jk lol no theyre just illegal street racing in initial d

[steep girder]

Well transformers yeah but theyre not cars for the sake of racing or drift

It's just disguise. Plus they can be any mechanical thing

Oh wtf i might watch then lol

[idle skiff]

i can give a TLDR of watching strategy bc they changed production companies halfway through so rights get a tab bit goofy

in the US at least:
Seasons 1-2 are on Hulu and Chrunchyroll i think
Season 1 can also be watched as 3 movies idk where

Season 3 is a movie. idk why.

Season 4 i think is also Hulu/Crucnhyroll

Seasons 5 and 6 (season 6 is literally two episodes iirc) youll have to find a sketchy way to watch

[heady flicker]

what a mess

[idle skiff]

MF Ghost is coming out this year and you dont need to know Initial D's story to understand it

[steep girder]

If theres no insane twist like giant titans have last human population happen to be drifters and they keep getting attacked. I really respect anime culture and style as art but its too deep for me lmfao. Like existentialist story but cartoon lol. Only japanese can make you cry and question everything through cartoon. Even soviet multfilms dont compare

[idle skiff]

Initial D is literally "illegal street racing turned competitive team illegal street racing" and thats it

[dreamy rose]

Season 6 (Finale Part A and Part B)

[idle skiff]

basically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g4Se3yYu7o

Modern sports car anime yippee

[steep girder]

Theres a classic which parallels these miniature 'karatishki' on earth and two of them steal rocket and fly to moon. Then they discover secret life in the middle of it. The lunatics are exactly the same but obviously reflective of capitalism. Meanwhile on earth they are all in one class thing with a teacher lmfao

[idle skiff]

Especially in the later seasons they really pay attention to detail, using audio from the exact tuned cars

It all takes place on roads that exist IRL too which is sick, at the bottom of one of them is the Initial D cafe, dying to go there some day

[steep girder]

But theres an island which is basically for delinquents to do whatever they want and degrade further. Its like an island of vices where you turn into a goat eventually lol. Meanwhile some anime my dad showed me as a kid had some place where people kept eating and turned to pigs (greed)

[idle skiff]

only shows Im currently waiting for are MF Ghost and Chainsaw Man S2

[steep girder]

One is in a communist context and one isn't. The anime one is scarier because its just a vice and nothing to do with society. Scary af. One punch man is immediately obvious but it's somehow always a twist for a while

[steep girder]

That's cool. So just an anime show of normal plot for once :p

Honestly still even Fast and Furious: they have a whole mini doc on how they researched and picked/modded cars. They must have used real roads i imagine because it's easier than cgi or even montage...

But cartoon is insane. I'm watching it when i get a chance I guess. Mountain serpantine drifts are insane... because going over cliff leads to game over screen lol

[dreamy rose]

if you want good chases then look into playing Driver: San Francisco

[terse folio]

hey chat

WHO is Guilty with these AIO TREND

[dreamy rose]

whats the TikTok AIO Trend?

[terse folio]

12400F use AIO
13500 use AIO
12100 use AIO
10400F use AIO
even 10100F AIO

[steep girder]

Well forget chases. Like ff3 the guy is told to practice drift kings mountain lol. I guess you already have full control and the 'feel' can be keeping speed etc

[lilac sage]

sounds like the average person who just wants their PC to look cool/good

[steep girder]

Wherever theres nothing like a rail guard on mountain pass btw

[dreamy rose]

Liquid > Air

[steep girder]

you think they just didnt bother because fk it low guard rail is pointless at that point?

[terse folio]

if your air cooler use heatpipe, it also contain Liquid

[lilac sage]

got to put the AM5 compatible AIO on the AM2+ PC

[steep girder]

That wont work at all though

Because its an aio liquid cooler

[steep girder]

For like 30 min usually because your heatsink is bigger and made of liquid

[sterile nest]

Question

[terse folio]

rejected

[steep girder]

Then like game actually starts that really uses gpu and its 4 still air cooling fans kick in to 80%. It's already louder than any tower cpu cooler at 120% with whistles attached lol

[dreamy rose]

Google: Answer

[gilded quest]

Is this what people seriously watch on TikTok

[sterile nest]

If you build a new PC do you have to activate windows even if you had a previous pc with a digital license linked to your microsoft account

[steep girder]

I mean if your loop actually efficiently moves heat to rad, theres only one way to speed it up:

[sterile nest]

it too complicated for google to awswer

[steep girder]

drumroll... speed up fans on rad

[dreamy rose]

bullshit google knows all

[thin fjord]

bigger, faster, louder fans?

strap an industrial cooler to that baby

[steep girder]

yes. but sadly, you have an additional bottleneck if you hit the point where fluid isnt getting enough heat to rad fast enough

[terse folio]

dude

ppl buying cheapo no brand AIO

[steep girder]

Wait what if you take loop and replace tubes w solid copper lmfao

Or heat pipes

Then somehow transfer it like liquid going into rad

Tbh just large mounted sink w heat pipes connecting it to proc

Or tbh poggest idea possible already done probably

Entire case heat sink w fins. You get to the point where radiation is fast enough for case to stay practically ambieny

No fans no liquid. Boom. Only way it fks up is if room temp is like 60C. So as you approach sauna temps it gets noticeable

Air and liquid cooling also have that issue though. Whats cool is the really non linear behaviors. There is heat coming off from resistance of any (semi)conductor. The heat at constant load in all cores is constant... until it heats up and R increase

The heat itself is energy. The temperature for every degree celsius needs x amount of additional heat but thats also non linear

Fk then i forget and had to look it up lmao

Im still dumb but it says thermal expansion which makes sense: heat isnt stored in matter, it's kinetic and wants to expand it on the count of everything moving at a higher momentum. If your heatsink could expand, the temp wouldnt go up because the heat energy was sunken into moving it apart lmfao. Thats just like exhaust in cars: it expands and cools. Any fluid. So a part of your AIO heatsink is when the water gets bigger lmfao... only you dont want it to because rad or some other part of loop will explode

Hence coolant: it expands less and your rad doesnt blow. Same reason you dont want to use water in coolant tank unless you have to. But the fluid should just carry heat to wherever it gets absorbed and out of loop asap... which doesnt need to sink as much heat. It just needs to efficiently radiate it hence only fins

Case and point: your rad fins are like tower cooler ones only attached to the liquid which would be the sink. It should be more efficient at moving heat from contact to fins to air in the room if 'liquid > air'

[young root]

i'm gonna cook ramen in my rice cooker

you're saying to many words

[steep girder]

Oh yeah then the dissipation or transfer i guess: it is slower as the temp increases. So as air around fins gets hotter, it absorbs the incoming heat from fins slower

[young root]

spongebob ice cream

[steep girder]

Which is why fans: you move the heated air out of the way to make room for new air which is cooler. The rad or sink fins can dump their heat into colder air at a faster rate

So all in all: air flow because eventually your room is the heat sink lmfao

[hollow pulsar]

Isn't it easier to say the radiator fins increase the surface area and allow for faster heat transfer in the direction of heat to cooler temps (usually ambient air)

[fluid ridge]

look look it's spongebob

[young root]

why my spongebob look... wrong

[steep girder]

Yes the surface area helps but only because it increases contact area with air. The air is not part of the metallic sink or rad

[wary summit]

love how the Bullet still has the casing

[steep girder]

The sink or just the fins part (rad) is one metallic solid. It's efficient at conducting heat through itself. Then that heat has to go somewhere else

Ultimately, it's the air. Anything else would usually be looked at as a part of the loop or some cooling system lol. It ends with the radiating fins. I mean it does radiate pretty sure. Could be something to do with the fact that youre going solid to fluid

Within copper or some solid in general, the heat expansion eventually gets overpowered by the bonds to neighboring particles. Whichever hold them together. So covalent bonds win pretty quickly and the particle gets pulled back I think. Now the momentum which is essentially where heat energy goes to is transferred back...

fml to be honest does that make sense lol. All in all, some solid crystal lattice vibrates. That neighboring particle actually could be the one which gets energy. Momentum reversed is kinda bad to say mb.

You spent energy bringing them closer together; the electronegativity in the end will increase a reaction force pushing them apart. That reaction force i think is the energy itself leaving their 'closer proximity' and going back into momentum of both

They are moving apart now; the covalent bond still exists and does the same as they fly farther apart. Heat 'kinetic' energy is spent fighting that force until it wins and transfers momentum once more into the particles toward eachother, etc.

[elfin jetty]

So close

[steep girder]

So in the end they vibrate back and forth. But the heat is conducted because there are more particles on the other side.

Unless there is enough energy to break the chemical bond for instance. Then the heat is permasunk into whatever potential was holding them together.

[terse folio]

just don't skimp on PSU. yet buy AIO for your 10400F

like most ppl do

[steep girder]

So if your heatsink melts, it absorbs more heat at least the amount it cost to deform it

If your heatsink is gasoline and absorbed enough heat from cpu to reach flashpoint temp, it absorbs all that heat into blowing it up briefly

But irl comes back in the form of that same heat and then some tbh

[terse folio]

heatsink don't melt

your CPU will shut down long before it generate enough heat for that to happen

[steep girder]

Because it was spent on breaking chemical bond which holds much more energy. Ironically, it has to be converted also to heat lmfao

[steep girder]

Well im talking theory because it's trippy as heck the way it works. But in the end, it works out regardless. Melting could actually be useful not sure

Blowing crap up (burning or combustion) you release energy that would have been stored there as long the chemical compound was intact. Melting is plastic deformation. So it permasinks into tower cooler unless im mistaken

No need to radiate lol. Probably a good thing because fins melted first

Actually I have it wrong I think

How do you even spell plasticine lol fk

Looked a bit in autocorrect. Not sure if post y2k that word is used anymore lol. It became always playdoh. Whatever in Russian it's plastelin.

Yeah wtf plastic deformation and heat. Im definitely too derped

But main point i strayed from a while ago: can you keep it cool enough to the point where it radiates fast enough and never reaches a certain temp

That temp is when it no longer gives off heat fast enough to prevent it from climbing

[fluid ridge]

i just read attack on titan 🗿

finished off the mang

god tier

[golden talon]

i hear ending is ass

[fluid ridge]

they trolling

[golden talon]

fr??

[fluid ridge]

manga top tier stuff

i couldnt wait after watching s4p3

[golden talon]

everyone i ask says manga ending is garbage

[fluid ridge]

got me feeling sad man

[fluid ridge]

they just mad cuz they bad

it was perfectly fine

[golden talon]

damn

[fluid ridge]

it's like neverland s2 outrage

nothing wrong with either

[golden talon]

i bet you like darling in the franxx ending

[fluid ridge]

i didnt watch it

[steep girder]

Well the reading part of it

Is it necessary until the end lol

Then again not too many walls and titans in the pics

[fluid ridge]

i could not wait

it was like 3 or 4 chapters

[steep girder]

Ending i just looked it's f ed up but...

[fluid ridge]

only part i didnt like was how armin died

thats a joke by the way

[steep girder]

It looks like what i expected somehow

A reference to the wall of berlin, nazis surround them

[marble stirrup]

Hi all. Is there any deals on M16 - GU603ZW?

[steep girder]

Alludes to some biblical battle between heaven and earth

And I saw gandalfs eagle and a tree grew

Thats a hella tree tbh took down commercial district

Plants can be titans too the end

[fluid ridge]

NOOOOOO

STOP NNOOOOOO

you cant read attack on titan from end to beginning

[elfin jetty]

bro the ratchet mechanism in the screwdriver is like the best fidget toy ever

[steep girder]

I mean some of the bubbles are RTL

[elfin jetty]

its so satisfying

[azure falcon]

Oh id go with a 2012 911 turbo s

[golden talon]

if i had 200K to spend on a car it would be the M5 CS

[fluid ridge]

id buy a nissan gtr

🗿

[lilac sage]

Id buy 20 cars for 10k each

should last me awhile

[fluid ridge]

best part is when you're onto the 10th or so car, every car after it will be considered a classic

[inland quarry]

Anyone play ps3 or Xbox360

[tired glade]

Oh,new XeonW aren't that far away from 5000 Threadripped

Waiting for 7000

[inland quarry]

???

[lilac sage]

sorry man, not many gamers here from 2010

most of the people here are from 2023

[tired glade]

Is xbox360 network even still up?

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[tired glade]

Oh,both still exist

[lilac sage]

wasnt the ps vita store offlined?

[tired glade]

Only vita,and only in Europe and NA

[lilac sage]

wii shop as well tho right?

[tired glade]

Japanese and Pacific still online

It's Nintendo,they are shutting down eshop everything they releasing new gen

Let's see if they figure out that with switch e-shop

[neon mesa]

Damn 360 is nearly 2 decades old

PS4 is nearly a decade

And PS5 is nearing 3 years already

[graceful burrow]

Ps5 and xsx don't feel very old because they weren't available to actually purchase for two full fucking years

[tired glade]

Xbox was on shelves

[graceful burrow]

Xbox was on shelves about three months before ps5

They were overall better than Sony at keeping stock

[neon mesa]

PS5 to xbox is like nvidia to amd

[tired glade]

Xbox series s still not sold out

[neon mesa]

Xbox is a better buy ngl

[tired glade]

Yes,it is the point

Wait, they give reason to buy it?

[graceful burrow]

The 5 in ps5 stands for the 5 games it has

[neon mesa]

The ponies might be mad but it's just the truth
And I'm speaking from a spectator perspective so I'm not biased

[tired glade]

Yes,5 games that they have over Xbox

[neon mesa]

Game pass just makes xbox the better buy.

[graceful burrow]

Id rather have better backwards compat and gamepass

[tired glade]

Mean,why you get Xbox over PC?

[neon mesa]

Same reason you'd get a ps5 over a pc

[graceful burrow]

I disagree

There is genuinely no reason to buy an Xbox over getting a good pc aside upfront cost

[tired glade]

But ps5 has those 5 games

[lilac sage]

as long as you have to pay to play multiplayer, im preferring PC. costs are lower long term

[neon mesa]

Kids prefer consoles over PC

Couch gaming, plug and play, ease of use

[graceful burrow]

Steam big picture mode + controller

[tired glade]

More grown ups

[neon mesa]

Xbox is get game and play

[lilac sage]

sure, what about if they had 1000 dollars?

[neon mesa]

PC even prebuilts have more steps

[tired glade]

Plug and play is very big selling point

[neon mesa]

But prebuilts have zero value against console

[lilac sage]

consoles still have the cost of the game, which is usually higher than PC and the game selection is worse

[neon mesa]

And buying and xbox at walmart then playing it at home 30 mins later is 10x more convenient than building your own pc

[tired glade]

If you have money,you getting all 3 consoles and pc

[neon mesa]

Not to mention the time you need to research

And the possibility of fucking up

[lilac sage]

ye just buy a laptop

[tired glade]

And maybe steam deck

[graceful burrow]

Long term value prospect is a bit shit though isn't it

[lilac sage]

problem solved

kids love consoles because they dont think long term

[neon mesa]

Remember what sarah did to that 1660

[lilac sage]

I think thats straightforward

[neon mesa]

You don't want that

[tired glade]

Kids have phones now

[lilac sage]

ye i dont think any1 is encouraging ppl with 0 pc building experience to build PCs

sarah didnt even watch a build guide

she didnt have any resources

[neon mesa]

That's where console comes in

Either deal with what sarah dealt or get a console and play instantly

[lilac sage]

like she couldnt even watch a youtube video on puttign things together

[neon mesa]

And people get consoles knowing they only need to game

[lilac sage]

you got games on yo phone

laptops exist

[neon mesa]

Laptops are even shittier value

[tired glade]

And cloud also exist

[neon mesa]

DIY PC already struggle to match consoles on upfront cost

Let alone laptops

[lilac sage]

how much is a year of xbox live gold?

[neon mesa]

Upfront cost is harder to foot than smaller bills over a longer time

[lilac sage]

how much?

[neon mesa]

Like 99?

Or less

[fervent prairie]

Only reason to buy gold is to convert it to game pass ultimate

[lilac sage]

ok year of game pass ultimate

[neon mesa]

You must understand that a lot of people get scared seeing pop ups even if it doesn't matter let alone building their own pc

[manic torrent]

Most people are idiots who know nothing

[lilac sage]

most kids are controlled by their parents

and their parents are idiots who know nothing

[manic torrent]

Loooooooool

That is not how parenting works

[lilac sage]

If I buy a kid an xbox when they wanted a playstation. what are they gonna do?

[manic torrent]

Kill you in your sleep

[lilac sage]

ok ur for sure a parent

im speaking to ur ghost rn

[neon mesa]

Just return the xbox and get a PS?

[lilac sage]

with what receipt?

theyd have to exchange it for below msrp at like gamestop

[neon mesa]

Who buys a $400 device without a receipt

[lilac sage]

I guess you dont understand

I forced the kid to play on xbox

[tepid laurel]

gey

[lilac sage]

sadly

[neon mesa]

L move but the kid can do what i did
Save up my own money and get my own shit

[lilac sage]

parents have a unique way of shaping kids' lives

my kid aint ever playing final fantasy games due to my buying of an xbox

[tired glade]

Good for them

[neon mesa]

My parents back then didn't want me to play GTAV

I did anyway

[lilac sage]

on a friends console

[neon mesa]

I'm not a serial killer yet so i guess they're wrong

[lilac sage]

or you just bought the game on ur own?

[neon mesa]

Crack it

[tired glade]

It's 18+ game and it's even used sometimes

[lilac sage]

cracked it on a console?

[tired glade]

Yep, you can do it

[neon mesa]

Cracked consoles exists
They outsold regular ones on my country lol

[tired glade]

But both Sony and Microsoft fast to patch it out

[neon mesa]

Game "shops" are also plenty here that sells you HDDs with shit ton of games

[lilac sage]

idk how ur parents dont notice ur totally different console. thats just negligent

[tired glade]

Oh,that still a thing

[neon mesa]

You'd be surprised

My PC whole case straight up changed and is now RGB

And took them a while to notice

[lilac sage]

ye I have an R4 for my NDS

[neon mesa]

From office case to gaming case

[timid meadow]

But its also rare that a patch stops game compatability. You dont have to upgrade to something not supported by a hack, which is partially why you cant downgrade firmwares on consoles

[tired glade]

Games having problems on consoles?

All firmware is available online if you like to jump from build to build

[timid meadow]

Its available online sure but most modern consoles have a fuse of sorts. Once it sees a newer update, it wont let you go back.

[polar steeple]

Wut

[tired glade]

If you patching that in, you not connected to Console maker servers

[polar steeple]

Yeah there's no fuse it's an internet connection lol

[timid meadow]

Ps4 for example. You cannot downgrade to 9.00 if your past it already without having a specific key that you could only get if you have already modded your console pre 9.00

[polar steeple]

Lol

[tired glade]

Consoles os can be weird to crack

[manic torrent]

I think what you mean is that typically for younger people who are financially dependent on their parents, a large expenditure like that is not likely to be their sole decision.

[timid meadow]

Learn that you dont listen to them and sit out of group sessions when all their friends are on a non crossplay game

[polar steeple]

Sure but at the same time ymif you're buying someone else a console you're never gonna use yourself and you just ignore what they want you're just nit being very considerate

[manic torrent]

And then laugh as they all get pwned by PC people anyway

[polar steeple]

Part of gift giving is being thoughtful

[tired glade]

Oh, right, crossplay is everywhere now

[lilac sage]

^

only problem is when its switch vs notswitch cuz theres so many damn exclusive games

[tired glade]

There is reason why phone market growing so fast

[timid meadow]

Unless their only interest was x or y exclusive. Crossplay is everywhere doesnt excuse it because it may not be with what they wanted. Not hard to listen to your kid, and not wrong to be upset by a gift that you cant use for what you wanted it for

[polar steeple]

Eh

[timid meadow]

If i wanna play forza, and im forced to play the crew 2, thats not the same

[polar steeple]

It can be hard to listen to your kid

[tired glade]

In the end, it's just games, it's your choice what to do on free time

[polar steeple]

Kids say a lot of bullshit

And being an adult is hard as fuck

[tired glade]

That's point of experience

[polar steeple]

Not really

Kids are dumb as fuck

It's an objective fact

[timid meadow]

Its your job to teach them how not to be tho. You cant do that without listening

[tired glade]

That lock screen

[manic torrent]

Got to make sure your kid has the right gear

[tired glade]

And it's password locked

[polar steeple]

No one ever says "we should really get children's input on this" because children's input has no value

[lilac sage]

I wanted to play wizard 101, my parents wouldnt pay for the subscription. I moved on.

[timid meadow]

"Humans who have never been a human dont know how to human"

[manic torrent]

Haha, I love it.

Kids are smaller inexperienced people

[polar steeple]

Okay? That's part of the trade off for having all your shit taken care of for you

[timid meadow]

Against your will

[polar steeple]

Lots of animals abandon their young and they fuckin die

[tired glade]

Yes, you need to learn that or you a brad

[lilac sage]

He was forced to eat vegetables

[timid meadow]

Then abandon your kid and let them die, dont laugh that they cant fend for themselves

[manic torrent]

I see you guys got your parenting manual from the boomers monthly meeting. I assume there's a snail mail newsletter

[lilac sage]

nope, just let them know they cant have everything

compromises are gonna be made

sometimes no compromises are made

[tired glade]

But that how you learn how to swim

[timid meadow]

If you dont treat your kids like fucking humans, youll wonder why your alone on your deathbed "after paying for all their shit for 20 years"

[manic torrent]

Being abandoned in the ocean isn't how you learn to swim

[manic torrent]

Lol they have never met my son

[polar steeple]

Bruh not getting a ps5 isn't being abandoned

The point is

[tired glade]

You need to know where under water rocks are

[polar steeple]

You have legal guardians sourcing and providing game consoles

[manic torrent]

Dude have you ever met a teenager? It's totally the same

[polar steeple]

Your shit is taken care of

[lilac sage]

if my kid aint eating the zucchini, no ice cream.

[polar steeple]

Chill the fuck out just in general your life is good

[tired glade]

I want those...

Where can I get zucchini in Singapore?!

[lilac sage]

I realized when I was older if I didnt want the healthy thing i wouldnt get the unhealthy thing.

TV, video games, and ice cream arent healthy

[timid meadow]

The point was your overall argument of "fuck kids their useless". Yes, the kid can be upset you got them the wrong console. But usually thats one of a million things your missing as a parent

[polar steeple]

That being said reasonable people should attempt to listen to the people they're getting gifts for, but honestly, sometimes it's hard to listen to what kids want

[polar steeple]

Fuck kids and they are useless

They're literally parasites

[tired glade]

Nice,there is vegan restaurant

[manic torrent]

Looool

[lilac sage]

Im probably gonna encourage my kid to get a PC. it saves me money in the long run.

[timid meadow]

If your kids are useless its your fault. Literally monkey see monkey do. Thats how it works

[polar steeple]

I don't have kids, because FUCK kids

[manic torrent]

I mean, maybe if you don't have a relationship with your kids and you see them one weekend a month, and you try and buy their love

[polar steeple]

I just said that

[tired glade]

That's why kindergarten teachers exist and it's pretty hard work

[lilac sage]

kids have many environmental factors at play

parents cant take all the credit if the kid is a dead end

[polar steeple]

There's too many kids already we don't all need to be producing more

[manic torrent]

I'm pretty sure I have more parenting experience than everyone talking put together

[lilac sage]

yes

[polar steeple]

Brutal reality is that if I want a kid I can get one from someone who doesn't want one

[polar steeple]

No one asked though

Literally no one

[timid meadow]

13 year olds and 50 year olds converse daily with no knowledge of the others age. You cant act like children are still dumb

[lilac sage]

well it is a talk about parenting

[tired glade]

Maybe,but we are from different cultures

[lilac sage]

all I know is that giving kids everything they want is just as bad as giving them nothing they want. Get the balance right.

[polar steeple]

Parenting is one of those things that you don't have to do to have an opinion on it or otherwise no one would ever talk about anything

How children are raised effects all of us in the long run

[lilac sage]

sorry but im gonna have to go say 'affects*'

[polar steeple]

🤷‍♂️

[timid meadow]

Figuring out why they want it is the key. Your the adult who understands if the why is justified. If the kid wants a specific thing, figure out why. Does it look cool? Or is there a reason that a regular human would have

[lilac sage]

:P

[manic torrent]

Oh you can have opinions, but you also get to jam them up your ass if you're getting all judgy

[polar steeple]

Or not

Cause

It's the internet

[neon mesa]

if you want your kid to be successful
name them "loser"

[lilac sage]

my kid wants to have an ps5, I personally dont want to pay subscriptions to PSN or buy alot of full priced games, thus im gonna get them a PC. they may complain but he's getting most of what they asked for.

theres also the modualrity aspect

[neon mesa]

or it'll just end up wasted because they don't know how to use a PC

[inland quarry]

I got lots of games to sell

[tired glade]

You don't need to buy psplus

[inland quarry]

like lots

[manic torrent]

I don't want my kid to be successful. I want them to be happy and fulfilled.

[neon mesa]

my little brother would have been better with a console but now he's sitting with a PC that is 90% not used

[polar steeple]

Kids know how to use PCs lol

[inland quarry]

U guys wanna see my collection

[lilac sage]

they better start learning how to use a PC, its pretty important in real life

[timid meadow]

Which makes sense, and you can explain to them. And isnt just getting the wrong one because your the adult and you say so. It matters

[inland quarry]

yo r u guys arguing

[polar steeple]

No

[timid meadow]

Not really

[tired glade]

They debating

[timid meadow]

Exchange of ideas that i may get a tiny bit heated about because ive got shit parents but no argue

[polar steeple]

I would say that if a kid wants a certain console it should be up.to them to articulate why they want that particular console

[inland quarry]

Go to https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/375444977033150494

[manic torrent]

No

[polar steeple]

I don't think that ability to play with their friends is an unreasonable request either

It makes complete sense for something like a game console

[timid meadow]

That middle ground. As long as that channel is open, alot more context to it on a situational basis

[neon mesa]

one thing for sure is
if the reason is "for fortnite" it's automatic infinite amount of "no"

[lilac sage]

if im that parent whose house is the place where everyone goes in person to play yea im gonan consider a console more

[polar steeple]

I don't think kids play games together in person anymore

Pretty sure devs have legit killed the concept of couch Co op

[neon mesa]

not many games support split screen in the first place now

[lilac sage]

sad

[timid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-23864982

[polar steeple]

Yeah it's tough man

[neon mesa]

notable ones that still do are probably racing games and fighting games

[tired glade]

Some games still support it

[lilac sage]

guess im just running VMs or something

[inland quarry]

alr

[polar steeple]

We used to kick it for hours on hours on the 360

Then again

[inland quarry]

Og days

[timid meadow]

Xbox 360 borderlands 1 general knox farm was peak gaming

[lilac sage]

steam remote play is the closest thing to modern day couch co-op if you think about it

[neon mesa]

oh and football games still work for more than 2 players

[polar steeple]

You can still play games together without split screen

[tired glade]

Just most of the games are single protagonist

[neon mesa]

parsec

[inland quarry]

my 360 is collecting dust

[polar steeple]

Good Ole pass the controller around

[inland quarry]

and my vita too

[neon mesa]

parsec works on a phone so you can have a Wii-u styled co-op

[tired glade]

eBay time

[polar steeple]

Parsec is barely okay

I'm a big supporter of parsec

[neon mesa]

it's basically instant with local network

[lilac sage]

im booting up dolphin so we can go play SSBM

[polar steeple]

It has major issues

[inland quarry]

Nah keep it for the memory

[timid meadow]

Vita is a sick console rn. Especially for remote gaming and homelab stuff

[polar steeple]

The android application also doesn't recognize xinput controllers

[neon mesa]

they do

[polar steeple]

It literally does not

[neon mesa]

i literally use one

for everyday remote gaming

[polar steeple]

Sigh

Whatever you say chief

[neon mesa]

whatever i say when i literally use one everyday

[tired glade]

Wait,how controller support workers on phones?

[timid meadow]

Bluetooth

[polar steeple]

Yeah because no one just says shit on the internet

[timid meadow]

Or otg

[tired glade]

And wire one?

[neon mesa]

sigh do i really need to take pictures now

fine

[polar steeple]

I can fucking record parsec on android not working with xinput if you want

[timid meadow]

Otg adapter for some. Not all controllers can be used on phones

[tired glade]

Ok

[polar steeple]

Fine

@neon mesa heres a video of parsec on adnroid literally not working wiht an xinput controller

smfh

https://vimeo.com/805874547/c498deb5b5

[neon mesa]

a you prblem pretty much as i don't find this issue anywhere else in the internet

[polar steeple]

I don't give a fuck

it literally doesn't work

like I said

now do I care? No. Parsec on android is not officially supported anyway

[neon mesa]

that's just

[polar steeple]

but thats part of the problem with the platform

[neon mesa]

mapping problem... you haven't mapped your controller

that big ass map button

[polar steeple]

do you think im stupid or are you stupid

[neon mesa]

you are stupid