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wary summit
manic torrent
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Nono, people who have floatplane are literally better than other people

unkempt widget
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i guess i'm the worst now, because i'm twitch subbed

weary moon
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Is that even legal

dusty rune
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no color ha

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they really did u dirty

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dull tapir
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guys which controller is smaller ps4 or xb1

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looking to get one to play emulated ps1 and ps2 games on pc

tired glade
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You can do that in phone now

tired glade
dull tapir
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i hear they are not that compatible on windows

tired glade
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Just plug in

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Ps4 just work,ps5 can only work though big picture

sullen saddle
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Wazzup Beijing

neon mesa
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yeah fuck it

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i'm installing linux on my laptop but

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committing to it

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meaning i will remove windows

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not dual boot it

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i will keep windows on my pc tho

dull tapir
neon mesa
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since the laptop is mostly a remote desktop client i can start there

dull tapir
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looking only to play offline games nothing on steam

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mostly indie or emulated so i worry it would not register it

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or are there any better third party pc compatible controllers

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i will never use it on a console

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only for pc and windows use

tired glade
dull tapir
tired glade
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You need to bind buttons on emulators,that all

dull tapir
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but how do analog sticks for i know some recognize angles and some do not

tired glade
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And maybe collaborated analog sticks

dull tapir
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ps5 costs 10eur more than ps4 one which is 60eur

tired glade
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Emulator comes with all tools you need for it

dull tapir
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mostly looking to play few old pc games from gog and mostly emulated games

tired glade
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Ps5 won't work from out of the box

wispy marsh
dull tapir
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do you get an adapter or cable

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i do not have bluetooth on pc

tired glade
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Cable that comes with controller

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Or it was for PS4 itself?!

dull tapir
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idk i have not owned a console since ps2 and ps3 so not sure i hear some come without

tired glade
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Yea, sounds right

wispy marsh
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You play the drums in a high school. You don't have money for a gpu.

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It was 5,000

dull tapir
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2070 is still 500eur in my country i paid 350 for 1080

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340 or 350eur that was like couple of months ago

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for an used one

neon mesa
wispy marsh
dull tapir
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i prefer kali over mint

neon mesa
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kali was my original option but i can't get my touchpad working with it

unkempt widget
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i got japanese coca cola

neon mesa
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why kali? so i can deauth my classmates because fuck you

unkempt widget
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it tastes no different to regular coke lol

dull tapir
dull tapir
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dull tapir
unkempt widget
dull tapir
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i use stomach

unkempt widget
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guys i have an idea: wireless eating

dull tapir
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to absorb molecules

dreamy rose
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bro my stepdad just threw all his rubbish into the sink. what a nutter

manic torrent
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what?

kind reef
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why in the sink?

manic torrent
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There is no context to that... what rubbish, why, what sink, huh?

dreamy rose
neon mesa
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back to getting addicted to making AI images lmao

unkempt widget
neon mesa
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me running it locally without any financial constraint like running it online makes it worse

neon mesa
unkempt widget
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i wanted to do that, but it wouldn't work, so i got artroom instead

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the images generated are not very good tbh, i need more models

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but most models i found online are a bit... hmmmm

neon mesa
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sooo good

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look at those hands

full fossil
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Would moving to India be a good idea?

neon mesa
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better than before

neon mesa
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india is notorious for being ludicrously expensive for PC parts

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full fossil
neon mesa
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india is far from progressive if that's what you're after

full fossil
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neon mesa
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can't have AI art without the occasional AI nightmare

full fossil
manic talon
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any keeb enthusiasts

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i needed some help

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full fossil
unkempt widget
unkempt widget
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unless you wanna live in a backlogged country

full fossil
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full fossil
unkempt widget
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oh yeah have you seen the china-india border

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india is the opposite of pacifism rn

full fossil
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I'll look into it xD thx

unkempt widget
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btw a child born in austria doesn't need to be an austrian citizen

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so if you're so opposed to conscription you don't even like civil service, there's that option

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they also have decently priced rent

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it's also noctua land, so that's a plus as well

neon mesa
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try SEA countries

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no conscription and cheap housing

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singapore is exception

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you can try indonesia, malaysia, or philliphines

unkempt widget
neon mesa
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unless you go to some backbone town you won't

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in say, indonesia, the capital and the more popular bali have seen enough foreigners to not give a shit

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same in malaysia (here right now)
i'm fairly white (dutch) and no one really bother me

unkempt widget
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cool, didn't know that

neon mesa
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it really annoys me how i need to have one long thumb nail at a given moment

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my phone's power button gone and it's the only way to turn it on outside of the fingerprint scanner

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have to resist the urge of cutting it

unkempt widget
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lol

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also, low rent doesn't mean shit if you get paid low wages

neon mesa
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if locals here can have decent houses so can you

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just live in the capital if you want first world like standards

unkempt widget
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here (in china), you can get an apartment for 2k rmb a month (300usd), but minimum wage is 2.8k rmb (400usd)

full fossil
full fossil
unkempt widget
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i said had because of russia

full fossil
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Lol

unkempt widget
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last invasion in europe was 1968

full fossil
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Plot twist, Germany rises again xD

unkempt widget
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and that was because of the now gone ussr

neon mesa
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eh majority of the world have good track record since WW2

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unless you're in africa or the middle east

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neon mesa
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list the countries

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the only one i can think of around asia is vietnam, korean war, and timor invasion

unkempt widget
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philippines very recent as well

neon mesa
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key word invasion

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not conflict

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as in getting fucked up like ukraine

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neon mesa
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fuck i misread

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wait nevermind i did not

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invasion is a country well invading another country as in getting in and trying to take over or make a coup

unkempt widget
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civil war, traditional war, etc

neon mesa
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civil war is not an invasion

unkempt widget
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what difference is it

neon mesa
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a civil war occurs inside a place

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not outside force attempting to break in the place

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most of the world have bad track record in conflicts

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but invasion? not much since ww2

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moment when you realize a lot of invasions are done by the US -_-

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neon mesa
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an invasion is a lot more severe in scale than a civil war

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neon mesa
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idk about you but two countries blowing each other up is worse than internal insurrection

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if the ukrainian war is a civil war it wouldn't be as big as it is now

neon mesa
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i'm talking from scale

unkempt widget
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look at how many people died in that

neon mesa
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how many?

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oh it is a lot

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but a war can definitely be a lot worse, the civil war literally happening in the WW2 era

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anyway we should talk about tech

kind reef
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topic literally says it:
The chat for all things ltto related. No memes or shitposting. If it's not related to this topic, it doesn't belong here.

neon mesa
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we know ->πŸ•΅οΈ

kind reef
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πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™€οΈ

neon mesa
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reallyyyy need new storage

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tho prob overkill 500GB is enuf

dusty rune
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better to just buy 1tb

unkempt widget
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i shouldn't have cheaped out tbh, i didn't know how important dram cache is

full fossil
neon mesa
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It depends on how you use it and the extensions

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And the model you pick

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The negative prompts

neon mesa
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Yeah dall e 2 is generally better

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But can you run dalle2 locally? No

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And dalle2 can't make... Ahem content

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Well it can just usually not allowed

full fossil
full fossil
neon mesa
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My past self decided to shove and forget and now I'm dealing with it -_-

full fossil
dusty rune
neon mesa
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Most budget nvmes even mid range ones don't have dram

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As they just use the system ram for it

twilit palm
unkempt widget
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dramless, falls to 6mb/s

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while transferring big files

eager spire
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hello! is it okay to unplug the pc after shutting down without turning the psu off? or should i turn psu of before unplugging

random sapphire
neon mesa
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Not a lot

manic torrent
patent pine
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i just love AI art, anime women with 7 fingers per hand sign me up

small zephyr
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πŸ˜‚ lamo always though that i brought an galaxy tab s6 lite for a steal price of 250bucks

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just realized it was a better bargain as i expected since its not the s6 lite but the regular stronger s6

noble rampart
unkempt widget
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wait wait wait

neon mesa
buoyant pike
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How short is Linus

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?

unkempt widget
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or 169 normal units (nice)

buoyant pike
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nice

unkempt widget
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nvm, it's 170, day ruined

buoyant pike
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sandals and socks wearers should all be 169 normal units

unkempt widget
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^^^

full fossil
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buoyant pike
unkempt widget
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also it's height, not hight

full fossil
full fossil
unkempt widget
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minus the OwO

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hmmm, maybe the OwO is just a rouse to distract us from the fact awoofy is actually linus

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full fossil
unkempt widget
full fossil
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Hi

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hi

neon mesa
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neon mesa
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I only run a 3060

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that's actually good, because you get 12gb of vram

wind pulsar
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You gotta install the weights for it

unkempt widget
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:)

wind pulsar
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My pfp is literally generated by SD

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Though Aldo animated it for me, so

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good deal everyone?

wind pulsar
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All of it SD

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And what we also found out

fossil frost
wind pulsar
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SD can do foods pretty damn well

tranquil mica
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Does anyone have a link to the LTT vid where Linus shows the1U water cooled systems with quick disconnects to connect to external water system?

fossil frost
unkempt widget
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shit it's gone

wind pulsar
dull granite
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AI art will never replace real art

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wind pulsar
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neon mesa
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AI art is that
Don't give a shit what made it
Looks good and fits the description? Well it goes

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Most people will not care and just see the results

dull granite
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anything

neon mesa
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It has everything to do with it as most argument against it is because ai art is "soulless" because no one put 10 hours behind it

wind pulsar
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Meanwhile the soulless art looks better than most can draw in 10 hours KEKW

neon mesa
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People don't give a shit, results is what matters and cost

tired glade
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Banana stick to wall with duck tape sold for 10million

unkempt widget
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i love modern art, because of how mad people get over it

wind pulsar
neon mesa
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Modern art is stupid anyway

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AI art looks good and cheap to make

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Modern art looks shit and somehow is expensive as fuck

tired glade
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Upside down urinal sold for 2,5 million

neon mesa
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Modern art is just money laundering/tax write off

fossil frost
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tbh, most things are made with slave labour somewhere, doesnt have to be china, ive worked at companies that make things all over the uk, and the people who actually do the making of things, get paid very very poorly. and on top of that, anything that gets made now is managed in a warehouse somewhere, and, all warehouse pickers are slave labour too... so... you cant really avoid slave labour in the modern world

wind pulsar
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Pisses me more off that people say that AI art is effortless anyway, because everybody who's set it up on their own knows it's everything but effortless

wind pulsar
neon mesa
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It's traditional vs digital all over again back when photoshop first came around

wind pulsar
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Ic

tired glade
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Man,art is like nft's ,you can have as much emotions as you want,but someone see something valuable in them

unkempt widget
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tbh artists started freaking out when cameras were invented

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but now we see photography and paintings as completely different things

fossil frost
tired glade
neon mesa
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Well that's tech for you
We lost a lot of horse riders back in the invention of cars

wind pulsar
tired glade
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And there are freshman designer that just started, that will make a million by end of the year

neon mesa
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If you wanna get pay day be a logo designer for a company

unkempt widget
neon mesa
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AIs won't be able to create proper logos anytime soon

fossil frost
neon mesa
tired glade
neon mesa
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Company pays much more than consumers

tired glade
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And money laundering with art is 3 most profitable business model on planet, after nature resources and military

neon mesa
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That explains ukraine

tired glade
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Oh,my

neon mesa
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Both sides winning

unkempt widget
tired glade
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I won't support this conversation

neon mesa
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American military complex runnin
Russia military complex runnin

unkempt widget
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us is giving away their stuff for free

tired glade
unkempt widget
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hundreds of thousands of ukrainian civilians are dead

neon mesa
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Giving away old stuff that will be disposed of anyway for free so it's not really a lost

unkempt widget
fossil frost
tired glade
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Yes

full fossil
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fossil frost
neon mesa
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It's in my bio, don't even need to assume

fossil frost
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yep, it says Fiona frog/tadpole.. πŸ˜„

neon mesa
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I don't even support either side
I'm neutral

unkempt widget
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being neutral in this war is supporting the attacker, but ok, you do you

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now lets talk about graphics cards before we all get banned

unkempt widget
neon mesa
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Yep

full fossil
unkempt widget
neon mesa
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Speaking about languages, Japanese might not be a desirable language to learn in the future

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Might

unkempt widget
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so devastating

full fossil
neon mesa
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Mandarin is, unknown future

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Depends on what china will do

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English gonna stay on top for a while

tired glade
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Chinese is more spread across all of asia, Japanese lazer focus on just Japanese

fossil frost
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based on number of speakers in the world... chinese/mandarin is on top by a lot

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neon mesa
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English has the most non native

unkempt widget
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if we count non-native speakers and people like me (native chinese, but clearly better at english), there would be a lot more

tired glade
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If for hobby ,do Japanese,for work - Chinese. At least as starting extra language

unkempt widget
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for english speakers, languages like french, german, or spanish would be the easiest

fossil frost
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spanish is a good second language if english is your first... large number of speakers, and portugese, italian and french are close enough to where you would be able to at least get the jist of what they are saying

neon mesa
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The con of knowing too many languages is you tend to forget some

fossil frost
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you need to use them to keep them

unkempt widget
tired glade
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It's depends mainly on you

neon mesa
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My native language is dutch but as i haven't spoke dutch actively for years at this point i literally forgot my birth language. Not completely, i can still use it but not like a native.

neon mesa
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While english, my third language, has now became the "default settings"

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The default setting is your internal monologue language

dusty rune
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english, my third language, isnt my default setting because im very patriotic!

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fossil frost
neon mesa
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No wonder they're Npcs
They're just not thinking or what?

unkempt widget
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they claim that it's a sign of insanity

neon mesa
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I can't imagine your head empty like that

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neon mesa
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I know what to do all the time
But still talk to myself anyway

fossil frost
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when they think, its the sort of people who generally "think out loud", where they have to say what it is they are thinking, even if its under their breath

neon mesa
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I count that as monologuing

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But if you're literally empty
Silence, idk man.

unkempt widget
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do you read out what you type?

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like, when you're typing it

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even if it's below your voice

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what the fuck i do this so extensively, i just never notice it

neat gull
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Whats a reliable website for benchmarks of CPUs?

unkempt widget
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otherwise, use techpowerup and toms hardware

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geekbench works, but it's not perfect

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same with passmark etc.

fossil frost
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none of them are perfect, they all test slightly different things in slightly different ways, thats why we have so many of them

full fossil
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guys when will the r9 7950x3d get restocked in usa ?

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I hope he pays you back for your work xD

young bloom
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why you carry computer

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stay on desk

sonic barn
sonic barn
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I never stress over anything because of that

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But apparently people try meditating to lose their inner thoughts like this, so I guess I skipped a queue

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Also it's 30-50% of people that have an internal monologue

past egret
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wait you people actually sleep

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i thought that was a joke

full fossil
flat ether
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I'm dad.

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No dad bot

heavy steppe
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finally jailbroke my psp
that took way too long to do

neat gull
# sonic barn Cinebench

i mean for cpus i dont have lol, im tryna compare the 12700 and 13700 to see if its worth the extra money

near nymph
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Mhmm today I found out... I have a sleep walking issue specifically when I wear my retainer.

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I magically end up taking them off somehow.

neat gull
gilded plinth
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Love it

heavy steppe
neat gull
heavy steppe
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fr

plush rivet
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Even if you use a VPN, if someone has an AP and you secure your connection through them, it defeats the point of the VPN

near nymph
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You would need a VPN. DNS is just a .dns

plush rivet
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Evil twin attacks are meh these days I wouldn’t worry too much

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That’s fine

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DNS has nothing to do with security

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that’s a naming system for IP addresses

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no, it’s just saying it’s going to a valid DNS server to verify the names like β€œGoogle” are valid IPs and match their records

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the only real way to make DNS insecure is if someone made a rouge DNS, but that takes so much work

near nymph
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lmfao also free VPNs are hella slow

plush rivet
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well ofc

near nymph
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Maybe look into a paid one...

plush rivet
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That’s why evil twin attacks are a thing, if you connector to their access point that’s all they need to do

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Every packet you send they can analyze

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How do you know the difference between airport and airport when your looking at networks

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Exactly my point

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it’s impossible to tell when it comes to that point

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Access point yes

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all they do is input a signal that is stronger than the airport, and naturally your phone will connect to the strongest network, completing the connection

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and now all the data you send they just need a packet analyzer and it’s over

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it’s built to only look at the best connections

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people are stupid and will pick the best connection, otherwise we wouldnt have this conversation

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if you have 2 connections, your obv gonna choose the best one

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and thats perfect exploitation

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be able to connect to trusted wifi networks

empty fulcrum
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I thought changing my name to everyone was novel but now its become a issue because I constantly get pinged

plush rivet
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i would assume so yes

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not much no

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just be careful on what you connect to is all

empty fulcrum
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I have neverfelt more safe than when using starbucks wifi

plush rivet
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there isnt much you can do

plush rivet
empty fulcrum
plush rivet
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eh i mean some networks will have 2 usually for 2.4 and 5ghz networks

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so i wouldnt say never connect with 2 networks, but ask about the wifi options

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correcto

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if you really care that much about ur security

limpid hamlet
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Hi

fiery delta
full fossil
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Any way other than a vpn to keep me secure?

tulip palm
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mfs with rtx 2080 supers knowing that an rx 6600 outperforms it:

plush rivet
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like other options?

tulip palm
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(i have a 2080 super)

full fossil
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Yes

willow crag
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is there anyway to check if my pc is performing up to specs of others using the same parts

full fossil
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Just knowing

north escarp
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having encrypted files I mean depends what you want secure

tulip palm
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why tf did amd have to release such good cards

willow crag
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because i think something may be wrong with my computer but idk what

plush rivet
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uh, be aware of what your connecting to?

tulip palm
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fuck nvidia

full fossil
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A few simple games, not much

plush rivet
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theres not much you can do

full fossil
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Huh, ok

plush rivet
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just dont click on obvious malware

tulip palm
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im getting a 8600 whenever that comes out its still gonna outperform the 3080ti by the way its going

north escarp
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I mean there's always the guy that can pull your ip but just playing games should be fine unless you download mods from some weird sketchy site with ads

tulip palm
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fuck why am i so mad at amd being a not so bad company

full fossil
full fossil
north escarp
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Right

plush rivet
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i hope you realize having someones ip means u know the general location, not where they live

full fossil
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But that's scary enough

plush rivet
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not really

tulip palm
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why did i buy a 20 series card

north escarp
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Yus it's literally nothing. I was explaining he has no real reason to be concerned unless he's in shady parts of the web

tulip palm
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im stupid

plush rivet
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on top of that, your DHCP sever will give you and new ip every 24 hours, so one ip a guy stole from you 3 years ago is useless

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MAC addresses are like the only thing to worry about

north escarp
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Non the less no reason for worry πŸ™‚

plush rivet
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but getting that is a whole different thing

north escarp
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Person stalks me to find im broke and tiredKEKW

plush rivet
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arent we all 😭

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What? MAC addresses are hardware dependent. Unless your talking about mac spoofing

full fossil
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i cleaned my room, took 4h, 6 120l trash bash :V

plush rivet
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yeah i just looked it up

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i mean yeah ig that works

graceful burrow
dull granite
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i think i got banned from #crypto-currency

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channel

dusty rune
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no i think its deleted

dull granite
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or maybe it was removed?

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i mean it wasn't active at all so

slim creek
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why is the rx vega 56 so cheap and a beast?

tired glade
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And it's not Nvidia GPU

dull granite
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is RX 7900 XT a good deal if it's like 800$?

tired glade
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Sorto

dull granite
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i think 750$ is a price where you can get a 1500$-budget build

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if you cheap out on some things

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like no more NVMe SDDs than 1TB

tired glade
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7900xtx already dropped below 1k on some promotions

dull granite
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i mean it is 1K$ MSRP

tired glade
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Let's wait for rest of 7000,750 can cannabalise AMD sells

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And it's chiplets,they can drop in price very fast when production will mature

neon mesa
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The W6800x duo clearly show dual gpu tech still have some life

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Why don't AMD make new consumer gaming ones?

tired glade
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Because there won't be market for dual GPUs

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And multi gpu not supposed in most of the games

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There was a leak about double stack GPU from AMD,but it could been mislead for chiplets

tepid bolt
neon mesa
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That's outside the point

tepid bolt
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Not only that but crossfire died with vega, rdna gpus have no muli-gpu support whatsoever.

tired glade
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Let's see,if AMD has planes for 7950x

tepid bolt
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The w6800 duo uses both gpus independently

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It's no different than just putting two rx 6800 in a PC

tired glade
neon mesa
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And it uses crossfire bridge

tired glade
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Yep

neon mesa
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So very much different from slapping two 6800xt

tired glade
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It's chip on PCB for cross PCI something something

neon mesa
#

Last time AMD fucked nvidia hard was using dual GPU tech

tired glade
#

It's not just 2 gpus on one PCB

neon mesa
#

2009, HD 5970

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Then the 6970

tired glade
#

Yea,when sli and crossfire was a thing

neon mesa
#

Really need SLI 2.0 that deals with the drawbacks

tired glade
#

Now it's will be just dead weight

#

Nvidia abandoned it already

neon mesa
#

But both companies prefer selling expensive ass cards than allowing you to slap two 4070ti that will beat a 4090 for less

tired glade
#

Wait for 3d stacked GPUs, Nvidia already has prototypes on wild and testing

neon mesa
#

They're just not the same as the user having the ability to use two cards

tired glade
fossil frost
#

SLI never worked like that... SLI was always a huge pain in the arse for compatability with hardware, software, drivers, the OS its self... everything about it was hard work, for the company and for the end user

tired glade
#

3dfx sli is long time dead

neon mesa
#

Whatever tech inside the chip 3d chiplets or shit, it's still a single card, no difference whatsoever from the outside

#

Works like a regular gpu

tired glade
#

So why that matter?

blissful lava
#

I think I just awakened a demon hidden deep within windows 11

#

Was tinkering around with some shit on my ThinkPad and when I rebooted I saw it for a split second

#

The windows Vista boot screen...

tired glade
blissful lava
#

Not even fucking joking imma try to recreate it

tired glade
#

And have like 8 pci slots motherboards

neon mesa
tired glade
neon mesa
#

Exactly

#

They rather sell more expensive higher end model than let you combine two low end cards

tired glade
neon mesa
#

SLI is old tech hence the pain. We need a new tech that works differently but achieves the same

#

However there is no monetary incentive to make that

normal cargo
#

The main issue is that cos of the drawbacks of using 2 cards (cost / power / effectively halfing your amount of available vram / general in efficiencies) it tended to be better to purchase the next card up?, Which is what most people did, unless you were going for elite level builds. This means there wasn't much of an incentive to support it

tired glade
neon mesa
#

And two used 1080ti is MUCH cheaper

tired glade
normal cargo
pulsar violet
#

I have the 5000D Airflow and the Wooden Teak Panels look to good to pass up on my blacked out build

fossil frost
neon mesa
#

You all keep going back to how multi gpu is shit because SLI is shit and I'm not denying SLI is shit

pulsar violet
neon mesa
#

That's why I'm saying we need a different multi gpu tech

tired glade
neon mesa
#

Fuck typing on mobile

tired glade
pulsar violet
normal cargo
dull granite
#

a SWEAR WORD!?!?

neon mesa
tired glade
pulsar violet
tired glade
hybrid shell
normal cargo
dull granite
fossil frost
# neon mesa You all keep going back to how multi gpu is shit because SLI is shit and I'm not...

1 GPU speaking to another GPU is only quick when its at very very short distances... that why when you have multi cpu systems, they are on the same board, and as close together as you can get them... you start pushing that data through connectors, daughter boards, traces with different impedance, boards that may be plugged into a different power source type.. those are factors that still exist now... regardless of if its SLI or new-tech... physics is the limiting factor...

neon mesa
#

Not to mention you can upgrade step by step
Can't buy half 3080 can you?

tired glade
fossil frost
#

yeah... 2 GPUs on the same card... thats still 1 card.. still not something you can upgrade half of

normal cargo
# neon mesa Not to mention you can upgrade step by step Can't buy half 3080 can you?

Yea but then you're going into what the majority of people actually do and how many people adopt this approach. New it's twice the price, 2nd hand it's atleast 2/3s of the price, then you factor in that it's an older card and older tech and how big the 2nd hand market is. How many people realistically currently have 2x 2080tis in their system if they were to adopt this approach

tired glade
#

It is one of the reason why multi GPUs are dead

graceful burrow
neon mesa
#

Like you said it's chicken and egg
Maybe because people prefer to replace because SLI is getting abandoned and not because they don't want to

tired glade
#

Yes

normal cargo
#

It's just a cost / benefit thing

fossil frost
#

tbh, 2 companies spent billions on the idea... and decided its a lost cause... they didnt throw away that money for no reason

neon mesa
# normal cargo It's just a cost / benefit thing

Cost wise it's literally just much better to buy two lower end cards than one higher end card
If SLI isn't shit and you can combine two 4070ti that will beat a 4090 with a considerable margin for less price it's a good deal

normal cargo
neon mesa
#

You keep bringing intentionally expensive non optimal configurations

#

Even then 2 2080ti is not on the same performance class as a 3070

#

When 2 1080ti literally a 3080 class

normal cargo
neon mesa
#

Cost is invalid

normal cargo
#

Cost is totally relevant when upgrading

neon mesa
#

Benefits maybe, but considering people buy radeon cards i think a lot give two shit about RT DLSS and Nvenc

normal cargo
#

These are consumer products

neon mesa
#

Cost is invalid because multi gpu is cheaper

fluid ridge
#

the newer cards will get longer and better driver support

normal cargo
#

No but things like dlss will add longevity to the card

neon mesa
#

FSR exists

fossil frost
neon mesa
#

FSR literally on pascal

normal cargo
#

Dlss is better, but even then the rest of my arguement stands. The benefits outweigh the cost of 2 aging cards, which lack support from Devs and the company

neon mesa
#

DLSS is not better enough

#

You can't tell the difference between FSR 2.1 and DLSS basically 90% of the time

normal cargo
#

Neither is 2x2080tis

#

See you're focusing on one aspect of an arguement I've raised

#

The benefits in total outweighs the benefit of getting 2 aging cards

tired glade
#

You can tell,if you have 2 system side by side and stop playing the game

neon mesa
#

Same to you focusing on how SLI lacks support and development when i agree with that and been saying that we need a proper multi gpu tech

#

Without those drawbacks multi gpu is simply superior in price

normal cargo
neon mesa
#

Maybe 3090 performance for much cheaper is the benefit?

tired glade
#

And FSR is open source,so you don't even need worried about license to use it

normal cargo
neon mesa
#

Stop coming to SLI as i never disagreed SLI sucked in itself.
I've been saying we need a newer multi gpu tech that deals with the drawbacks

#

Multi gpu, without SLI problems, is better cost wise.

normal cargo
#

It why it lacks support

neon mesa
#

Your argument against multi gpu as a whole is because SLI sucked. Keep ignoring the fact that I've been saying we need a new tech and how if the drawbacks are fixed multi gpu is better cost wise

modest umbra
#

cheese

lilac sage
#

SLi showed its age when we shifted from max frame/avg frame rate and started paying attention to 0.1% and 1% lows i.e. stuttering

#

its arguable developers started it tho

#

depends who you ask

normal cargo
weary moon
#

SLI sucked and multi GPU should be buried deeper until PCIe is completely reworked. Good luck getting that to happen any time in the next 10 years minimum.

neon mesa
#

Don't join a convo in the middle without reading

#

I started it with the "if" that new multi gpu tech is created

#

Then all of you keep using SLI as the strawman

normal cargo
#

And you're arguing against people that was showing the drawbacks of sli and why 2x 2080tis don't make sense

thick agate
#

Can u sli gt 210

neon mesa
#

Because I'm speaking from a hypothetical standpoint

weary moon
#

Maybe read my comment in full before telling me to read a conversation. PCIe is the problem.

neon mesa
#

I'm not telling anyone right now to get 2 2080ti

#

Because they suck at the current situation

normal cargo
neon mesa
normal cargo
#

Like I said, you quoted me, not the other way around

#

And started saying 2x 2080tis was better than a 3080, and cost was irrelevant

weary moon
neon mesa
#

You just joined this convo

#

And i never even responded to you

#

Soo i don't see what you're after

#

My messages was not meant for you

weary moon
#

My mistake then.

sullen depot
#

Whomst among you carries the tip of the techs?

pulsar violet
sullen depot
#

Is 3D printing expensive

tired glade
tired glade
sullen depot
#

It sounds like it might be fun to design little things out of plastic

pulsar violet
tired glade
#

DIY will be better choice,in the end

pulsar violet
# sullen depot Is 3D printing expensive

I’m going to U of C and they have 3D printers that you can book out to use and I’m going in for Mech Engineering, hope I can work at LMG later down the line for the lab but tbh I gotta be more realistic

pulsar violet
#

Ik workplace and content are much different though lol

manic torrent
neon mesa
#

If you think 3d printers are expensive
2D Printer ink is more expensive than F22 stealth paint per gallon

sullen depot
manic torrent
pulsar violet
#

There is a vast range in price

manic torrent
pulsar violet
#

Oh, that’s cool

manic torrent
#

I am strictly an amateur crane builder though

full fossil
#

Can we do it? Yes we can!

manic torrent
#

Thing is - can it be done is almost never a good question. Would it be wise to do it is a better question

full fossil
manic torrent
full fossil
#

Lol

#

Probably by some different Bob xP

manic torrent
full fossil
#

Lol, looks fun

manic torrent
#

also instead of costing many hundreds of dollars, it costs many hundreds of thousands of dollars - like a train, which I can also afford.

full fossil
#

Mr money bags xP

#

Goodnight OwO

vapid smelt
glacial tendon
#

Jiafei uses a MacBook

limpid hamlet
elfin jetty
fluid ridge
#

csgo 2 has been confirmed apparently

#

and its allegedly just around the corner

gilded quest
#

csgo 2: electric boogaloo

graceful burrow
manic torrent
#

halflife 3 confirmed

graceful burrow
#

Trues

fluid ridge
graceful burrow
#

The Leaker being credible or not does not mean it's "confirmed"

#

It can only be confirmed by valve kek

fluid ridge
#

fair i guess

vapid smelt
fluid ridge
#

it was a link to his website

#

raytraced dlss csgo coming

young root
#

micro center closes at 6 on sunday and i got here at 602

#

🀦

#

mf 40 minute drive for nothing

lilac sage
#

camp out

honest kraken
#

Hello chat

#

What is new on this Sunday afternoon?

manic torrent
honest kraken
#

Bro you have to be in like Germany, Russia, china, or Japan for it to be Monday

ornate mantle
#

Hello chat

lilac sage
honest kraken
#

Only in the US is it Sunday

#

And south America

lilac sage
#

the new world and east of the international date line

north escarp
#

When your mobo cpu combo goes from one month to, two weeks arrival time

honest kraken
ornate mantle
#

Certified float plane subscriber as of today!

honest kraken
#

New pilot's license? πŸ€”

elfin jetty
#

I cant wait till march 9th

#

Its gonna be glorious

north escarp
neon mesa
#

What's the special thing about that one though

#

Looks too expensive for a generic black case

vapid smelt
# neon mesa What's the special thing about that one though

Sponsor: EVGA X570 Dark: https://geni.us/C8Tq
This review looks at the Lian Li Lancool III PC case, a new high airflow design with a lot of mechanical gimmicks and features. The Lancool III sells for around $150 to $170, depending on whether it's the RGB, white, or black model, and competes most directly with alternatives like the Corsair 5000D...

β–Ά Play video
neon mesa
#

I've seen chinese branded cases with high build quality and good cable management for less than half. (I mean lian li is made in china as well i assume?)

#

And thanks to bingGPT in edge let me just use it to summarize it lol

elfin jetty
#

so much storage

neon mesa
#

There are older cases with a bezillion 3.5inch bays

elfin jetty
#

yea but airflow suffers

#

I'm putting my current rig in the case

neon mesa
#

150 is still too much
But eh
Lian li is overpriced in general

#

You can probably find the manufacturer lian li used and get it directly off alibaba

elfin jetty
#

doesnt lianli make their own cases

neon mesa
#

Or whatever chinese knock off that is just as high quality

#

But eh I'm in asia, different pricing standard for cases as we're closer to china

#

And no US tariffs

elfin jetty
#

most cases here get fairly pricey

vapid smelt
elfin jetty
#

i do have a 1tb nvme ssd tho

vapid smelt
#

hdds in 2023? 🀒

elfin jetty
vapid smelt
elfin jetty
neon mesa
#

bruh edgegpt suddenly lost the ability to know the webpage im on

vapid smelt
#

two 2tb nvmes are 180

neon mesa
#

i used it to summarize ltt vid just thr ither day

neon mesa
#

mobile typing moment

elfin jetty
#

and one is taken already

vapid smelt
#

4 nvme slots

elfin jetty
#

yes but then it takes up a pcie slot

vapid smelt
#

are you running sli cards?

#

all my homies have spare pcie slots

elfin jetty
#

no but its sorta crowded

young root
#

you're at a loss then

neon mesa
elfin jetty
neon mesa
#

Well some matx have 2 PCIe X16 but big chance it's covered by gpu

young root
#

i have 3 free x16 slots

vapid smelt
elfin jetty
#

I have a msi b450 tomahawk max

neon mesa
#

ATX too big for my desk

#

My room is not big for a big desk

vapid smelt
#

wall mount your case ez pz

young root
#

you have 2 x16 and 3 x4 slots

neon mesa
#

Wall mount -> anxiety

young root
#

get an x4 splitter to nvme

vapid smelt
neon mesa
#

Don't forget CPU lanes

#

Only limited

#

The rest will use chipset lanes

vapid smelt
#

damn 8tb sata sdds are only $500

elfin jetty
#

I'm just gonna stick with my cheap 4tb hdds thx

young root
#

ain't bad

#

i've been considering one for my laptop

neon mesa
#

"Buy expensive case so i can fit a lot of cheapo spinning rust"

young root
#

my main computer has a 4tb because i don't care about loading times. there's no real downsides

elfin jetty
young root
#

shit my desk pc uses 4 500gb hdd

vapid smelt
#

ive haven't used a hdd since 2018

young root
#

i have a ton

golden talon
#

im going to boston

young root
#

while your there can you get me a hot dog

golden talon
#

i can get you boba

gilded quest
#

SSD gang

vapid smelt
#

2tb nvme and sata ssds are $75-90

golden talon
#

im renting an M6 with the homies

rugged bridge
young root
#

my laptop has a 1tb and 2tb m.2, tv pc has 1 512gb m.2, wall pc has 2 1tb m.2 and i have 4-6 512fb ssd

elfin jetty
gilded quest
#

your font is ass

elfin jetty
rugged bridge
#

lmao comic sans

elfin jetty
gilded quest
#

simplicity

rugged bridge
elfin jetty
young root
#

my discord font is default

rugged bridge
# elfin jetty how?

document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].style.fontFamily = "Comic Sans MS"

young root
#

every font is default

elfin jetty
#

also my discord has skins now

rugged bridge
#

looks nice

#

it sucks thats its "against the TOS"

vapid smelt
# elfin jetty

for the low low price of $240 you can get 6tb of sata ssds

elfin jetty
vapid smelt
rugged bridge
#

you just wanna be careful where you share that info cause some servers will ban you for using it

elfin jetty
vapid smelt
#

does it use a 3d party plugin?

rugged bridge
#

thats why i just do
document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].style.fontFamily = "Comic Sans MS"
cause its using built in dev console not modify the discord client itself

elfin jetty
#

no its a new beta feature

neon mesa
vapid smelt
rugged bridge
#

My other fave fonts are Cascadia Code and Ubuntu

neon mesa
#

Nitro beta features are independent from discord insider

vapid smelt
vapid smelt
elfin jetty
grim dawn
#

yo need some help, i keep getting an error message any time i want to send a dm on twitter? any reasons why? happened nearly 8 hours ago and checkec my phone again now and still hasnt resolved. ty πŸ™‚

past egret
#

twitter moment

grim dawn
#

i can see incoming messages as well but cannot send

gilded quest
#

is it possible elon fired everyone who worked on the DM feature

grim dawn
rugged bridge
#

its in inspect element

unkempt widget
#

might as well let us edit the css

grim dawn
#

"DevTools failed to load source map: Could not load content for .. "

#

Connection error: net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

analog parrot
#

can someone build me a stream pc on pcpp?
1000gbp

grim dawn
pliant karma
#

And that’s fun when you run 2 discord

velvet marsh
manic torrent
manic torrent
past egret
#

pretty sure elon fired everyone that was against him in any way

#

dont get on hia bad side, he will make you pay 7 dollars a month to get freedom

unkempt widget
neon mesa
elfin jetty
#

I was thinking of getting a 64gb intel optane module for my boot drive

#

huge endurance benefits

manic torrent
#

meh.

vapid smelt
mossy pendant
#

intel arc contorl isnt an overlay anymore!!!

#

lets go

elfin jetty
sullen saddle
#

i assume from this message you are < 18

full fossil
sullen saddle
#

instead of manually looking for it πŸ˜’

vapid smelt
#

no dont fucking cross post

lime finch
#

Hey, I don't see any ltt videos about printers (specifically interested in content about ink tank vs ink jet vs laser) any suggestions for other creators ok the topic?

manic torrent
#

they are a niche product unto themselves - I would actually go to a dedicated printer channel/discord

sullen saddle
lime finch
#

True. But I need to print for uni

#

Yep that is not at all helpfull and feels like I asked on stack overflow

manic torrent
#

how much money do you have

#

how much will you be printing

#

how much space do you have

#

does it need to be easily transportable

lime finch
#

Correct

manic torrent
#

"need to print for uni" - go to office supply store and buy cheap garbage printer.

lime finch
#

My question was more about and content with a comparison of technology.

manic torrent
#

I mean ink tank is ink jet, just ... with a tank

#

most people don't give a shit about printing.

lime finch
#

I can and will but I prefer to learn about the pros and cons of different types of tech to know if the extra upfront vs ongoing cost it worthwhile

manic torrent
#

It's annoying and difficult. To have a good printer requires regular use/maintenance.

#

which is why if I need something printed in high quality.... I'll just order it printed

lime finch
#

Well I thank you for making the printer conversation long enough it's got a chance to be read by others

manic torrent
#

local printer is for garbage

#

in an office setting? you just lease them with a support contract.

#

get a big colour laser AIO

#

honestly, I don't know why you'd need a printer for uni in 2023.

lime finch
#

Yeah i have printers at work. I am interested in a low volume compact all-in-one combo unit for printing assignments and copying forms ect.

manic torrent
#

If your uni doesn't have electronic submission then maybe it's time to find a new place of study

lime finch
#

your opinions are valid. I am just going to choose to not justify my needs Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

manic torrent
#

my point is more - it isn't worth the time investment

vapid smelt
#

my local library has a printer

lime finch
#

Are you against the environmental issues or just someone who is a hardware elitist

manic torrent
#

check your local stores for something you think fits your use case, get a few different options

#

check some reviews, buy whichever one is the most suitable

#

printers are not even a commodity item - they are disposable.

lime finch
manic torrent
#

as a rule, printer users fall into one of two groups - they don't care at all, or they care a lot

manic torrent
stray apex
#

people don't buy printers often enough for that to be worth anyone's time

#

so unless you can find some niche consumer printer forum

lime finch
#

oh wow there is more of them

manic torrent
#

nobody cares about printers

#

I told you

graceful burrow
#

I care about 3d printers

#

But 2d printers are fuckin cringe

stray apex
#

just buy a 3d printer and use it to print onto paper

manic torrent
lime finch
#

I'm out, anyone with a actual suggestion please tag me. Anyone with a opinion about my need for a printer can comment and I'll read later

graceful burrow
manic torrent
#

"bawwww I asked for answers and I'm not happy about them"

lime finch
#

noone answered my question

stray apex
#

your question was answered

manic torrent
#

we answered the real question.

stray apex
#

the answer was "no" lol

manic torrent
#

which is - who gives a shit about printers. the answer is - nobody

graceful burrow
#

Idek what the question was I just like 3d printers

stray apex
#

they wanted to know if there were any printer focused content creators

lilac sage
#

I want microsoft to standardize printers like they are standardizing keybaord rgb software

graceful burrow
#

Wouldn't that heavily depend on the content they created?

lime finch
#

^^ any reliable content about the different printer tech

graceful burrow
#

Wikipedia

lime finch
graceful burrow
#

Has a lot of reliable content about printers

lime finch
#

basically I want an updated version of this

graceful burrow
#

So make it

stray apex
#

why
printer tech is not like, advancing at speed

#

there's no moore's law of printers

#

it's a printer

graceful burrow
#

Yeah printers have basically been the same since like
Probably 2005

lime finch
#

but there is advancements in 7 years

stray apex
#

yeah, they have touchscreens now lmao

graceful burrow
#

Wait I know of one thing printers can do now that they couldn't ten years ago

vapid smelt
graceful burrow
#

I'm serious I do know of one thing

graceful burrow
#

The company that makes your printer can brick it when it obsoletes it

#

With an Ota update

stray apex
graceful burrow
#

Av1 on my arc card blows

stray apex
#

but it does exist

vapid smelt
#

do platforms support av1 like yt or twitch?

stray apex
#

I guess you could also just use quicksync

graceful burrow
#

Yeah but I cant use it
Av1 gets overloaded instantly in obs just recording at default settings

manic torrent
#

Imagine caring about printers

graceful burrow
#

H.264 quicksync works great tho on obs

stray apex
manic torrent
#

I mean I have a printer. I don't even care what model it is.

#

The main thing I know about it is that the alert for a new firmware has a 'dismiss' button, and then you have to navigate through the fucking piece of shit menu to fucking apply it. Just put a fucking 'update' button on there you stupid fucks.

vapid smelt
manic torrent
#

we print at LEAST 10 pages per year.

vapid smelt
#

mine is a 6 min drive

manic torrent
#

tbh I've scanned more than I've printed.

lime finch
#

Anyways. Anyone with a legit suggestion please tag me. Others who want to dump on my question can just comment and I'll read later

past egret
#

the apartment i live in has printers to use and the library is literally across the street

vapid smelt
#

i print like 3 papers a year for d&d and Call of Cthulhu

graceful burrow
#

I never need to print anything
This is the digital age

manic torrent
#

I swear to god, the universe is trolling me

past egret
graceful burrow
#

If I'm printing it's in 3d
The future is now old man

manic torrent
#

I am going to use my crane to print

#

since it's basically an overexcited cnc machine

vapid smelt
graceful burrow
stray apex
#

there's no reason you couldn't use a 3d printer as a fax, is there?

graceful burrow
#

With a tool changer you could absolutely both write and scan documents

#

With a plotter and a camera

manic torrent
#

fax->email->chatgpt (express this email in an artistic way)->stable diffusion (produce multiple angles of this) -> build 3d model-> slicer-> 3D printer.

#

it's how everyone recieves faxes these days.

harsh pike
#

who would you guys recommend an ipad 10 to, im thinking of buying one

graceful burrow
#

For what

vapid smelt
harsh pike
kindred mason
#

can someone help me please my laptop is stuck charged at 6 precent

kindred mason
past egret
#

spicy battery

harsh pike
kindred mason
past egret
#

then you should find out

vapid smelt
kindred mason
#

it died came back and has been on 6 precent

young bloom
#

there is a SONG stuck in my head and now my brain is consuming itself

harsh pike
#

cause idk

vapid smelt
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kindred mason
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well it’s fine i can live with this will it being at %6 can it still run fine?

past egret
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usually.

young bloom
past egret
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a song stuck in your head

young bloom
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thats not a worm

past egret
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its an metaphor for a parasitic animal like a worm being stuck in your head