public-chat

[jagged moth]

This helps a lot

[polar steeple]

I would prioritize the time of whatever display the device is hooked up to

[fossil frost]

some stuff plays better with a controller, some stuff plays better with kb/mouse... and, some stuff i wanna play while more comfortable on the couch, and some stuff i wanna see what im doing

ie. assassins creed, sight seeing game... 100% xbox series x on the big tv in the living room

[polar steeple]

Like if the Xbox is in the living room you can't necessarily be blasting noobs on family night or whatever

[fossil frost]

KSP, needs kb and mouse, and for you to be up close to it... PC

[polar steeple]

Or like if you have another gamer who has different tastes maybe offload their games on to the Xbox

[fossil frost]

those 3x games that you see advertised in places that you are surprised they get advertised... laptop in the shed... for privacy

[stoic beacon]

Let's say they aren't

[polar steeple]

Then I would assume the PC is yours and I would prioritize the games you like the most on the PC

[fossil frost]

FIFA... xbox... because its much more fun to destroy my kids on fifa when they are in the same room as me 😄

[polar steeple]

And games you're okay with going several days or weeks without playing on the xbox

[stoic beacon]

I'm trying to justify the purchase of a PS5 in my own head, given the cost of upgrading my PC at the moment.

[polar steeple]

Does it have to be a ps5?

[stoic beacon]

Probably, due to VR

[polar steeple]

Hmm

[stoic beacon]

I like their controllers and user interface more as well

[polar steeple]

Why not VR on PC?

[fossil frost]

tbh, its mostly a decision of, does the console i am looking at have the exclusives i want? if so, thats the console you want.. .and once you do get a console, you buy games on the console that are 1. exclusive to the console. 2. better played with a controller

in general, you just work it out as you go along, and work out your own style of what you like to play where

[stoic beacon]

I do a bit of that, but it's with a quest 2 plugged in, which isn't the best situation... PS5 also has exclusives we are interested in, whereas the Xbox does not

But I'm not going to buy a console for exclusives alone

[fossil frost]

do you have people round to your house, and play games with them? if so, consoles are much more convenient for that

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, we do, and that's what the switch is currently being used for with smash Bros, and other games like boomerang Fu

To be fair, it is getting old dragging my entire PC downstairs to the living room to play elden Ring on my TV. That's one of the main things inspiring this question

I would have to repurchase and start some games over, but I understand that's just the way it goes

[fossil frost]

Main thing my Xbox is for is when I play local group games with my kids. Its the more convenient platform.

[stoic beacon]

That makes sense... Our main family games are Minecraft and Minecraft Dungeons, neither of which require a PC upgrade

Hence why I'm considering a 500 PS5 instead of a 1k+ upgrade that would only benefit me and nobody else

And would still leave me dragging my PC around

I guess now I'm also curious, what made you go the Xbox route instead of PS, Bizz?

[sturdy dune]

honestly doesnt seem theres much reason other than gamepass to go with xbox

[stoic beacon]

That's what I was thinking as well, but we don't play nearly enough games to justify subscription of any sort

[sturdy dune]

well i think even on ps5 you will need playstation plus

[stoic beacon]

Isn't that just for online play? I would only be using this for single player games, all online play games would still be done on my PC... But then again, I forgot about Elden Ring...

[sturdy dune]

not entirely sure, although i think it is mainly for online games

[manic torrent]

dude that is exactly how a project should go

I see no problem. No notes.

[sturdy dune]

another good thing about the ps5 is you could eventually get a psvr2

[manic torrent]

lol other people

[limpid hamlet]

Hi

[limpid hamlet]

I mainly use valve index

[olive sand]

What are the quietest computer fans on the market

[neat gull]

any Noctua Fans

NF-P12 Redux are best value, NF-A12x25 best performance

[manic torrent]

I feel like that's the wrong question though

what are you trying to achieve

[olive sand]

A quiet fan

[neat gull]

LOL\

[manic torrent]

buy any fan. don't turn it on.

[neat gull]

just do passive cooling 🗿

(dont)

[manic torrent]

more fans running slower, less noise. less restriction, less noise. more effecient parts = less heat = less noise.

[manic torrent]

why not?

[neat gull]

passive cooling just rly isnt that good

and nobody wants a 20lb case

[manic torrent]

my case is way, way more than 20lbs

[neat gull]

what case?

[manic torrent]

O11D, but watercooling

[neat gull]

im talking the case itself, those cases that are all heatsink weigh as much as a toddler

i mean u can do a d15 heatsink aand be fine but u aint playing no games on that

[manic torrent]

who said games?

My dude here comes in and says "I want a quiet fan". that's it.

[neat gull]

im gonna assume he games

[manic torrent]

why?

[neat gull]

gamer until proven innocent

[manic torrent]

I mean, I play games, but I also have plenty of other requirements

[neat gull]

are they heavy?

like heavy load

[wraith sonnet]

Is discord desktop broken rn?

[neat gull]

no why?

[wraith sonnet]

I've had infinite loading on desktop and in browser for the last hour

[manic torrent]

see, this is why you have to be specific about what you want to achieve - because yes, they were, but I offloaded the decoding and object detection to a GPU

[neat gull]

try reinstall

[manic torrent]

wfm

[wraith sonnet]

Reinstalling crashes immediately too

[wraith sonnet]

Also reinstalling wouldn't help fix the browser version infinitely loading

[neat gull]

sounds like your wifi might be blocking discord

[iron orbit]

Guys, got a Sceptre TV I'm trying to use as a monitor, no major league gaming, just LoL and the refresh or something looks horrible. I see a blur as I move.

[wraith sonnet]

I have direct control of my firewall and I'm directly wired in

Also it's working wirelessly on my phone

[neat gull]

thats super weird wtf

[dreamy quarry]

Give the pc a power cycle?

[wraith sonnet]

@vapid smelt any ideas?

[wraith sonnet]

Not really an option rn

[dreamy quarry]

I was going to suggest maybe a memory leak but I don’t suppose that would affect the browser version

[wraith sonnet]

Does arc control have a known memory leak issue?

[manic torrent]

that makes no sense whatsoever. You're just throwing stuff against the wall

[wraith sonnet]

I do actually have a lot more memory being used than normal but I still have 4.4 gb available

Bob dumb question, is having equal amounts DRAM and VRAM an issue?

[sturdy dune]

well i also dont think you meet the same circumstances as the person i was talking to

[manic torrent]

no, why would it be

[dreamy quarry]

Why would it not make sense ):

[vapid smelt]

?

[wraith sonnet]

Idk seems weird

[wraith sonnet]

Discord desktop is completely broken for me, I thought since you're local you could testify if it's having a similar issue so I could rule out a local server

[vapid smelt]

im fine

[wraith sonnet]

For once I wish that weren't true but alright

[dreamy quarry]

There’s some support articles on discord regarding infinite boot

[manic torrent]

it's not just you 🙂

[wraith sonnet]

Literally looked for it and didn't get it

Jfc

[vapid smelt]

i wonder if any of mods have it broken too

[wraith sonnet]

Idk and I'm not going to @ them just to check

[vapid smelt]

we can break the rules now!

[wraith sonnet]

Also blue chat lol

Coop works at |redacted|

[manic torrent]

nah everyone knows the only reason you @ mods is to get them to buy into your MLM crypto opportunity

[wraith sonnet]

There meme

And technically on topic

[manic torrent]

uhhhh, that's an old meme.

so .... yeah, basically on point.

[wraith sonnet]

Yes but it's on topic somehow

[manic torrent]

also it's an old post

[wraith sonnet]

Look I had a somewhat relevant meme so I posted it

[manic torrent]

and I ruined it for everyone

[wraith sonnet]

Should I start on the 99 theses on why Corsair should be abandoned?

Because the 24 gb DIMMs are fucking ridiculous

[wispy marsh]

I like corsair. I'll have you know I'm a major supporter of their products

[vapid smelt]

i like corsair cases and psus

[wraith sonnet]

I cannot believe that they're ignorant enough to use decorative lighting in series rather than parallel

[wispy marsh]

Things I've brought that are from them:

1. Corsair CX650 PSU

List ends there

[wraith sonnet]

Literally the only acceptable Corsair product

Any higher or lower and it's problematic

[vapid smelt]

corsair rmx 650w 2018 model thats it for me

[wraith sonnet]

Also I do genuinely have issues with Corsair PSUs

[polar fern]

Tech tip: take care of your health

[wispy marsh]

Mine might be the rm650 tbh, I don't remember

[wraith sonnet]

Why does the modular Molex match SATA for every other brand

[wispy marsh]

But it runs a i7-8400 and a vega64

[wraith sonnet]

Okay now I'm at a point where restarting is an option

[wispy marsh]

My seasonic 650w psu powers an i7-2600

[steel slate]

Is it just me or did we all randomly woke up at the age of 5 and dont remember anything before that

[wispy marsh]

You're young

I don't remember most of the things before 12

[wraith sonnet]

Nah I remember throwing raw eggs at the TV when I was 3

[polar fern]

I remember before that.

[dreamy quarry]

Saw a tweet about discord doing the load loop but hopefully that works

[polar fern]

Ugh the rat site

[dreamy quarry]

People like to overshare on there so it’s pretty useful for seeing if services are down

[vapid smelt]

you mean the best social platform in the world

[polar fern]

If you’re voting for landfill fires

[vapid smelt]

why burn landfills when we can cover them to build golf courses or parks

[wraith sonnet]

Given enough time there may be a valid reason

[polar fern]

Anyways.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqX1D5AQFfo we do burn it

[polar fern]

Not sure if you’re intentionally sidestepping the monumental moral issues with twitter which I point to whenever someone mentions the platform or just missing the point. Either way it’s a damning commentary on the state of the world.

HEPA + radiator for PC cooling?

[dreamy quarry]

Pc gaming air purifier

[rugged bridge]

songs nowadays aint got nothin compared to this banger 🔥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRD9BqjIk-E

[polar fern]

Keep the dust out

Yes.

Dust bad. Radiator good.

Filter plus radiator = even better!

[dreamy quarry]

Probably could pull it off, would have to have good fan and tape off all the air entryways.

[polar fern]

Yes

[dreamy quarry]

Expensive dust solution tho

[polar fern]

Delta fan go brrr

[inland pendant]

what are some best linux desktop environment is best for touchscreens?

[polar fern]

Dunno.

[inland pendant]

those stubborn unresizeable window

[dreamy quarry]

#linux nerds might know

[polar fern]

https://tuxphones.com/pinetab2-rk3586-linux-tablet-juno-tablet-fydetab-duo/

[hollow zealot]

Very neat idea but that fan better do well with high static pressure lol

[polar fern]

Yes

[hollow zealot]

Get one of those carrot shredders Linus had

[polar fern]

Delta is known to have op fans

[dreamy quarry]

Please ping me in the post of your hepa gaffer tape monstrosity when ready

[wispy marsh]

ASS-based SoC

[polar fern]

I mean there’s a mount I linked earlier with the filter

[hollow zealot]

Maybe this fan would work well for you?

[dreamy quarry]

True if it had a good seal that would make a lot more sense

[hollow zealot]

~800 cfm blower

[manic torrent]

monumental moral issues with twitter? what?

[polar fern]

Too much flow

[dreamy quarry]

Needs hepa filter

[hollow zealot]

You should see the filters we put in those lol

[polar fern]

What type?

[polar fern]

Ooo

[hollow zealot]

For our customers that "like clean air"

[polar fern]

I’ll take 4

[dreamy quarry]

Don’t want your air dirty now

[hollow zealot]

$150 per on Amazon :)

[dreamy quarry]

Does the carbon even have time to bind any particulates at that speed?

[manic torrent]

time doesn't matter, only life

@polar fern what are the "monumental" moral issues with twitter - seriously

[dreamy quarry]

Can’t put a price on happiness

[polar fern]

We have a MERV 13 whole house purifier with the electrostatic grid

[hollow zealot]

800 cfm is a lot smaller than you'd think for a filter that size

[hollow zealot]

Paper filter?

[polar fern]

Need to go clean the grid & swap the filter out

[vapid smelt]

they have child labor running in hamster wheels to power the servers

[hollow zealot]

We don't see many paper + electrostatic here
Usually it's one or the other

I know trane (who owns the brand of system Linus has) has some form of electrostatic + paper box

[random folio]

What are your guys's favorite videos on the internet?

[vapid smelt]

xxx

[graceful burrow]

"Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this" is an all-timer

[hollow zealot]

The teaser for the LTT Christmas album

[random folio]

Brb gonna go watch this

[manic torrent]

sounds right. Maybe he's actually blocked me this time. like... everything has issues, but no ethical consumption etc

[dreamy quarry]

The one where the kid hits the light after being told to definitely be cautious of the light

[manic torrent]

pushing will protect you from the terrible secret of space.

I am the shover robot

also: charlie bit my finger the unicorn

[rugged bridge]

Bad apple.
I like the community that has derived from it.
Especially the trend of "Bad Apple on x"

[manic torrent]

also: llamas in hats.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8QlNuTUe4M tbh

[manic torrent]

CARLLLLL.

[random folio]

A classic

[random folio]

THAT KILLS PEOPLE

[hollow zealot]

Go buy the album and be a part of the problem

Encourage Dan to make a new one :)

[polar fern]

@hollow zealot

[random folio]

I love the ones that are so low resolution that you can't even tell what it is

[rugged bridge]

Oh, and also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4N5OhcY9s

[polar fern]

I think it’s fibreglass

[random folio]

https://linustechtips.com/files/category/1-music/ Everyone go buy the album

[dreamy quarry]

Fiberglass air is my favorite personally

[manic torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIppxRsa3jk this absolute classic

[hollow zealot]

Ohh neat
The company I work for is a carrier dealer, but we don't have those

[rugged bridge]

i think im good

[dreamy quarry]

If my aqi is sub 40 is it stupid to have an air purifier

[polar fern]

They’re in short supply with the virus & folk upgrading their HVAC. Our installer had to buy a whole unit to get the filter out of it last year

[hollow zealot]

We do these tho, paper filter + UV air scrubber

[vapid smelt]

looks like a pc

[hollow zealot]

That sounds like a great idea for a case

[rugged bridge]

can it run doom

[polar fern]

Yeah we don’t gave the UV just filter & static grid to kill the microbes

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Af6bhAkZF0

[polar fern]

Sandals

Not just a resort, a fashion statement

[vapid smelt]

20mm hepa filter

[rugged bridge]

i got 👻 pinged

[polar fern]

Poly filters don’t work if wet

So HEPA are fiberglass

[random folio]

Dude give me a summary cause that's over 20 minutes long

[polar fern]

Summary?

[vapid smelt]

did you grow up on tiktok?

[manic torrent]

doesn't really matter - but it's oldschool machina, from before youtube was even a concept.

it's more about what it is, rather than the content

[random folio]

More so Vine

[polar fern]

https://sjmusart.org/exhibition/rina-banerjee-make-me-summary-world

There, a summary

[random folio]

Okay I'm watching it now and it's amazing

[manic torrent]

"I did remember, I'm remembering now!"

"oh.... a rocket launcher....."

[rugged bridge]

@manic torrent what is the last game you played? 🤔

[manic torrent]

sniper elite 4 last night

[rugged bridge]

damn not bad

[polar fern]

Minecraft & KSP

?

[rugged bridge]

i most recently played tf2 lol

[manic torrent]

on authentic plus, as foretold by the prophecy, of course

otherwise it's wayyyyyy too easy.

in sniper elite 5 I developed a love for iron sights. Good enough over realistic engagement ranges, and much better visibility

[polar fern]

I love lamp.

[wispy marsh]

I wanna have breakfast before i go to work

[polar fern]

Dew et

[wary summit]

guys I'm going to ShengZhen, if anyone has a stolen iphone that's tracked to HuaXiangBei tell me

[wispy marsh]

Wc

[eager venture]

@tepid bolt should i get https://www.ebay.com/itm/225425115682?

[wary summit]

what's breakfast

[warm plover]

Is there a way to see how long you listen to spotify

[polar fern]

Breffisssss

@warm plover app time use?

[wary summit]

Spotify stats

but you have to pay for time

[random folio]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295434271227? Possibly same performance and more vram?

[polar fern]

Sweet link

[eager venture]

its from Canada and the shipping is 40 usd it isnt worth it

[random folio]

Right I didn't see that

[silver violet]

2x speed, now its 10 mins :)

[hollow zealot]

What model furnace?

[polar fern]

Charging to look at numbers. Yikes Spotify

Oh it’s just an AC.

[wary summit]

not Spotify, Spotifystats

[hollow zealot]

Your state must be backwards to mine lol
We have mostly furnaces with no AC here

[polar fern]

Nah it’s retrofit

[hollow zealot]

Ahk

[random folio]

Okay I watched half of it and it's pretty good

[hollow zealot]

I ask because carrier had a line called Weathermaker, they're 90-98% efficiency but they're turning out to be real lemons now that they've aged

[polar fern]

The hydronic/domestic boiler is separate from the AC.

This unit is like 4 years old.

[hollow zealot]

Weathermaker is aged at about 2000

[polar fern]

I think the previous unit was a York

Was toast. Possibly second hand.

[hollow zealot]

These things

What is happening is the heat exchanger transition, where it goes from the primary to secondary, corrodes horribly
It gets all clogged up and gives off a horrible smell

[polar fern]

I heard of them having issues

Some folk on hvacr videos discord have mentioned it

[hollow zealot]

Did not realize there was a discord for that

[polar fern]

Ye

[wary summit]

the font

[hollow zealot]

What I'd really love to see is Linus's system that's been giving so much trouble

[polar fern]

Fondant font front

Linus has long linesets.

At his new house

[hollow zealot]

I've worked on American Standard stuff before and have seen people with 2 thermostats for a similar reason to Linus

I bet, that house is massive

[polar fern]

At least he’s not using Goodman

I’m considering switching to a mini split for one part of this house & a multi-split for the rest

[wary summit]

WeatherMaker 9000

sounds like my primary school project

[elfin jetty]

Muh baby will arrive mext Wednesday

[wary summit]

looks 1/3 the price

looks cheap as fuck

it's like your default Amazon Top selling prebuilt case

[elfin jetty]

The cable management and 4 hdd and 8 ssd bays say otherwise

[wary summit]

mesh looks cheap, Brushed aluminum looks cheap

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjb5wozsMdc your cheap its nice

[elfin jetty]

It looks amazin to me

[wary summit]

my free PC case has 4, 3.5 and 4. 2.5s

[dreamy crag]

what happens if you ping linus

[elfin jetty]

Death

[wary summit]

banned

[vapid smelt]

they send a hit squad to your house

[elfin jetty]

Linus sniper tips

[polar fern]

Weathermaker residential was bad, but the weathermaker light commercial was very bad

[vapid smelt]

you open the side panel like this on it

[wary summit]

I open the side panel by kicking it off

lemme find my tiwrrer post

[elfin jetty]

Look i like the case, its more than worth it for me

[wary summit]

hope it didn't get Removed by musky

https://twitter.com/bitcoinmine712/status/1440481967254892545?t=PYdH4k3aZ8IZhcabMHJ7_g&s=19

[dire vale]

how do you clean a hepa filter btw ?

[wary summit]

water? that's what these Chinese people said

[dire vale]

rinse it with water? pour water from another side? can soap be use? chemical etc

[vapid smelt]

fire

[polar fern]

@dire vale you should change filters. HEPA captures the particles. They actually sag after a while under the weight of the stuff in them

[wary summit]

google it tbh

[valid canyon]

hi

[polar fern]

Ahoy

[wispy marsh]

Wait. HEPA is fibreglass

[wary summit]

@dire vale you speak Chinese? are you in china

[polar fern]

It is

Fibreglass paper.

[dire vale]

no, im malaysian, but i do have the ability to speak chinese since school teaches it

[wispy marsh]

So I can keep washing my filters and 永久保留 use them

[wary summit]

fuck

i just realized

CCP after me

[wispy marsh]

ini bodoh

[dire vale]

lolwut, you social credit in negative or something? kek

[polar fern]

You should not dampen HEPA filters. They only work when dry. Plus the stuff captured by them can hold moisture

[wispy marsh]

So that's why I gotta get a $50 filter every year

[dire vale]

apa nie, indon atau malay?

[wispy marsh]

Atlantis

[polar fern]

@wispy marsh yes

[wispy marsh]

Why is my room filthier than my fan tho

[dire vale]

aduh bro, jangan la cam tu, kite kan abangadik

[wispy marsh]

Lol no

I'm across the bridge

[dire vale]

across the bridge.. you mean singaporean? dayum

[polar fern]

Because a HEPA filters hold onto stuff. Your fan is too slippery

[wispy marsh]

My fan has conical fan blades with a ceramic core

[polar fern]

Ooo

[wispy marsh]

It pulls in air through the HEPA filter

Meanwhile my room is full of dust because i live right next to the road

[polar fern]

Sounds terrible

[wispy marsh]

Mmhmm

[polar fern]

Tape might help.

[wispy marsh]

Eh, dyson always charge an arm and a leg for filters

I can afford it

[polar fern]

The best air purifiers are ones that pull air in the side & push it up out the top. Makes for good circulation

[dire vale]

thanks, i manage to find some info online

The "disposable" HEPA filters are made of an 80/20 Polyester & Cellulose mixture with an ePTFE-like surface coating to increase efficiency. Rinsing these filters results in separation of the individual fibers of the filter media, which is why they fail after 2, 3, or 4 washes. The best method of cleaning if you must do so is going to be a controlled burst of compressed air. With these cheaper filters, you'd be looking for short (.2 or .3 seconds) of approximately 50-60 PSI, blown from the CLEAN SIDE towards the dirty. This will dislodge the dry dust and particulate, while slowing down the efficiency loss. In industry they use between 90-110 PSI to do exactly the same. Getting these filters wet even once will cut the efficiency nearly in half. It may not appear to be the case, but true HEPA Efficiency means 99% efficiency at .3 Microns or less, which is nowhere close to visible.

In the case of washable HEPA filters, they are made of a glass fiber, and are therefore much more water resistant. The same surface coating is applied, resulting in a more water resistant, HEPA-rated filter. Compressed air does work well for these too, however it is safe to use water. With these, take care not to bend the filter "paper" or subject them to any impact, as it will break the glass fibers and cause premature failure.

credit to a user named Scott O'Malley comment from a youtube video.

[polar fern]

Ahh those

I would use a vacuum cleaner.

[wispy marsh]

Which also has a HEPA filter

[polar fern]

Then there’s water filter vacuum cleaners…

[manic torrent]

my vacuum cleaner has a washable HEPA filter

[wispy marsh]

Nah, I use the dyson v11

[polar fern]

The water is the filter.

[hollow zealot]

Still going on about filters

[polar fern]

Plus there’s a HEPA exhaust thingy

[manic torrent]

so it's a giant bong

[polar fern]

Yes

But it filters smoke too

[graceful burrow]

I like how you think

[polar fern]

I use these

Mini HEPA

Museum trip recently. There were too many coughing kids so the P95 was relegated to the public accommodation spaces

[wispy marsh]

Ginger

No, wait, blonde

[polar fern]

Was fun. Got to see some really neat book related stuff

👀

My hair is Viking blond

Bits of white & straw

Sticks up by itself -.-

One issue about indoor air quantity is that you gotta make sure the windows & doors are tight or you can get smoke etc leaking in

[golden talon]

Nice cold night outside a wawa

cant say I like the sandwiches too much anymore

the quesadillas are truly amazing though

[polar fern]

Curbside?

I live in Wawa land

[golden talon]

not quite

i make my friends get food for me as return for letting them ride in my car

[polar fern]

Used to get the classic, ham, tomato, salt pepper toasted

[versed terrace]

Does anyone know how to underclock ryzen 3600

[polar fern]

Like the zen+ chip?

[versed terrace]

yes

Just upgraded today and facing issues

[polar fern]

Depends on the board

& bios

[versed terrace]

Well its just my old motherboard that i've been using for the last 2 years

So the BIOS version is 2020 (something)

[polar fern]

Is that the 96 watt tdp thing?

[versed terrace]

probably

[polar fern]

Hmm.

[versed terrace]

I just bought a RX 6650XT

[polar fern]

What’s the PSU?

[versed terrace]

So I got basically forced to upgrade my CPU to a Ryzen 3600 by my community (and another tech server)

[full fossil]

lmfaooo

[versed terrace]

ASUS 550W Gold

[polar fern]

Ok

[versed terrace]

32GB RAM

It should be enough even with the more powerful cpu/gpu

[polar fern]

May be the board

[versed terrace]

Well I don't have money to change the board.

[polar fern]

🤔

[full fossil]

why so much static 💀

[versed terrace]

I had to put the GPU on klarna that's how broke I am

The board seems to work but the CPU is getting hot

the cooler is the same as it was before and Cooler and motherboard are both 2 years old and never faced any issues with them

[polar fern]

@full fossil it’s like that by itself

[versed terrace]

until now

[full fossil]

natural static

jkjk

[versed terrace]

I think I could fix the problem by locking the CPU to 3GHZ

however not sure how

[full fossil]

my hair never stays up it's too flexible

[polar fern]

@versed terrace the board may not like the tdp

[versed terrace]

TDP is power use?

The CPU seems to be using 89w (if Ryzen master stress test is accurate) , the website says the Ryzen 3600 is a 65w cpu

Not sure why

[tepid bolt]

TDP =/= wattage

[polar fern]

The power leads in the board can only properly handle so much current

[versed terrace]

I hate to recieve this news

[polar fern]

Yes

[versed terrace]

because the motherboard claims "Ryzen 3000 ready", I understood that as "Put your Ryzen 3000 in here and have fun"

not that the Ryzen 3000 can't be too powerful

[tepid bolt]

TDP is an arbitrary number used by the manufacturer to classify the power usage

[full fossil]

thermal output is 65w , power usage is 89

[versed terrace]

So the CPU getting hot is because of the motherboard?

[polar fern]

It’s the socket

[versed terrace]

The motherboard and cooler are from 2021

been running a Ryzen 3 4100

I'm kinda sad now.

[polar fern]

Feel the back of the board under the mount with it all unplugged & static ground

[full fossil]

it's the zen 2 chip

[versed terrace]

like the backplate

[tepid bolt]

The cooler is the problem

[full fossil]

not zen +

[tepid bolt]

The cpu you had before used like 40w max so you didn't notice

[full fossil]

what temps are you getting?

[versed terrace]

73c with cooler at full speed, I tuned the fan speeds (probably in a bad way) and it got so hot it powered off

I cleared cmos and yeah at load I get 73c

and its like a jet engine

[tepid bolt]

Try a different cooler then come back

[polar fern]

That’s weird

[full fossil]

just get a 40$ tower cooler

[versed terrace]

It sucks that I don't have any money and a tower cooler wouldn't fit in this case

[full fossil]

you're motherboard isn't the problem

[full fossil]

what case

[polar fern]

The board is old tho

[versed terrace]

MSI Sekira

[polar fern]

Sus

[versed terrace]

I think you might be right, and the cooler is basically one that fits with the motherboard (both are MSI)

[full fossil]

that doesn't mean anything , an a320 can handle 5900x fine just fine

[versed terrace]

so it might be both of them

[versed terrace]

I don't think so

To be completely honest with you

[tepid bolt]

You'd be wrong

[full fossil]

at 90w it can , and a motherboard won't make a cpu hotter

it runs on lower power

[versed terrace]

Well

I think my issue is fixable by locking my Ryzen 3600 to 3GHz

[tepid bolt]

Nope

[versed terrace]

doesn't matter if its the cooler or motherboard

[tepid bolt]

And at 3ghz it'll be slower than the ryzen 4100

[polar fern]

If the cpu temps don’t go above 80c & your board is hot it’s the socket.

If the board is fine then it may be cooler contact with ihs

[tepid bolt]

Try a different cooler then come back

[polar fern]

Try new thermal compound & check the mount

[versed terrace]

No I don't think so

[versed terrace]

I already did twice today

[polar fern]

Ouch

Is the fan plugged in? 🤣

[versed terrace]

yes

hahaha

[full fossil]

@versed terracehttps://www.amazon.com/quiet-BK007-Elegant-Surface-Technology/dp/B087VM7HT2/ref=sxin_16_ac_d_mf_brs?

[polar fern]

What cooler is it?

[tepid bolt]

It's an old MSI 360mm AIO

[polar fern]

Ohhh

[tepid bolt]

Shitty asetek 5th gen

[polar fern]

Is it dry? Pump run?

[versed terrace]

Pump seems to run fine

[tepid bolt]

Try the stock cooler and see how that goes

[full fossil]

I got the old wraith spire with the copper vapor chamber and its just fine in a case with one fan , identical power draw to @versed terrace 's cpu

[polar fern]

Yeah

Yeah the wraith spire should work

[versed terrace]

My motherboard has a rotary knob

and I made sure its on 1, its a overclocking thing

And in the BIOS It says HW Mode is active

[full fossil]

overclocking knob?

wtf

[versed terrace]

yeah

but it can't be used for underclocking

but I used it to make sure its not being overclocked

[full fossil]

you don't need to underclock

you need to undervolt , underclocking won't do anything

[versed terrace]

How do I undervolt?

[polar fern]

Out of my wheelhouse

[versed terrace]

I asked in #overclocking but it seems dead

[versed terrace]

Same, and I just bought this CPU today, and with life currently am too broke to fry the CPU

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=88NBHepm1xw

[versed terrace]

L o llllllllllll

[polar fern]

Do you have the stock cooler?

[versed terrace]

no

[polar fern]

Rip

[versed terrace]

It doesn't come with that

Its the thin cardboard one (we have in europe, budget 3600)

[full fossil]

I thought the 3600 came with wraith stealth

[polar fern]

I will send you mine -sends it via pneumatic tube-

[full fossil]

and X didn't come with a cooler

[versed terrace]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/CPU-AMD-AM4-RYZEN-3600/dp/B0B4WLZ6Y4

Its this one, in Europe you don't get a wraith stealth

Never does

[polar fern]

No extra stuff

[versed terrace]

atleast in this region

[polar fern]

Less ewaste

[versed terrace]

yeah true

[polar fern]

No that’s why

[versed terrace]

no

Its because the cpu is cheaper then and europeans have less money than americans

[full fossil]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Ryzen-5-3600-AMD-Processor/dp/B07STGGQ18/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2QX0MAF1IAD0C&keywords=3600&qid=1677814593&s=computers&sprefix=3600%2Ccomputers%2C183&sr=1-4&th=1

[versed terrace]

that one isn't being sold at all/its a imported model

[full fossil]

f

[polar fern]

Y’all got fast trains tho 😲

[versed terrace]

yeah

and beer

[full fossil]

false

[versed terrace]

No, and partly its because we have extra tax so to keep prices equal

The eu tax that comes on the cpu, amd makes a cheaper cardboard packaged cpu to save the little money

so they can sell the cpu with the same gains everywhere

[polar fern]

Value added tacks

[full fossil]

oo okay

tacks pain

[versed terrace]

But I already have a MSI 360 AIO

which ran fine with the small cpu :<

I am watching the linked youtube video

[polar fern]

Well f then

[versed terrace]

however i'd need someone to guide me through it

because I don't understand the settings thats being changed

and my bios doesn't have the same settings exactly (they're probably there but with other names, but i don't want to take chances)

[full fossil]

come to india we got 3090s still going for 2800 new

[polar fern]

😬

[full fossil]

US

4090 ain't even available yet

[rose widget]

was gonna say, 2800 rupees give me 10 of them xD

[full fossil]

Imma buy 50

you can get a gt 710 for 2800 Rupees kekw

3090s start like 200k rupees

[polar fern]

Shah Jahan need that sweet fps for the marble sunlight ray tracing.

[full fossil]

flight sim

[polar fern]

Ye

Be like “gib me teh fps”

[full fossil]

I feel like they set the poverty line so low it doesn't mean anything , people earning like 10x that are still poor

[golden talon]

im an OCI and going to india is so fun each time i go

[polar fern]

Need a currency buyback

[rose widget]

Ill be happy if I can get my GTX 1080 working again lol

that card served me well for a long time and I still think it would be fine for 1080p getting

[golden talon]

i need either the dollar to start valuing less or the rupee to be valued higher

[full fossil]

cool where do you live now?

[golden talon]

usa

[rose widget]

I got a good cpu at least, 7950x lol

[polar fern]

Rupee same as aud full send

[elfin jetty]

Keks in 3600

[golden talon]

if by some miracle the dollar equals 70 rupees by this summer ill be able to afford a brand new M8

[full fossil]

I'll be in the land above next year kek

[polar fern]

Above the land sounds like my goal since March 2020

[full fossil]

🇨🇦

[elfin jetty]

[polar fern]

Um

[full fossil]

💀

[golden talon]

real

[polar fern]

🤔

[full fossil]

@golden talonwhat city do you vist

[golden talon]

bangalore

[full fossil]

Oh I've friends in Bangalore

[polar fern]

Bbl

[golden talon]

sometimes i go to other places

[rose widget]

Anyone know what thermal pads I should get for my 1080?

I got artic mx 6 which should be fine for the chip

[golden talon]

doesnt matter anything works

[rose widget]

I heard you gotta get the thickness and stuff right but I never done it

but its defo the memory that is overheating, chip temp seems fine, but I get black screens after a short amount of stress

[full fossil]

https://mdcomputers.in/msi-rtx-3090-ventus-3x-24g-oc.html

...

[rose widget]

nice

1,337.02 USD

[full fossil]

leet

[velvet marsh]

Hmm should I spend $575 on more ram

[vapid smelt]

ddr5?

[velvet marsh]

ddr4

8x32gb 3200mhz

[vapid smelt]

ecc?

[trim robin]

why do you need that mutch ram even

[velvet marsh]

I don't think my board supports ecc

[mortal estuary]

dance dance revolution 5?

or 4?

i liked the first one the best

[velvet marsh]

ooh it does support ecc

[elfin jetty]

Cant wait to upgrade my case

[vapid smelt]

NERD

[pearl silo]

If you run out of things to spend on, I won't stop you from sending me some. Geez

[elfin jetty]

Whats funny is i got the 2 left monitors and the tv free, lol

[elfin jetty]

I know

Thats the case im upgrading too

[vapid smelt]

are you sure you want a case with airflow?

what if your parts like living in a hot box with no air

[ionic flame]

do they make adult lunchables anymore?

[elfin jetty]

I mean my old case had airflow too, i use my pc as a space heater

[pearl silo]

I did that at work while the heater was dead. I found an old pentium 4 machine in the closet and made it bootable. Had to shunt some data around, so I gave it a task (rather than just wasting electricity) and it definitely got the job done. (it was a small office room)

(edited for spelling)

[elfin jetty]

thats beautiful, as long as its still performing a task thats actually amazing

[pearl silo]

There's always room for a functioning machine in my eyes. Even old machines are useful.

That same machine went on to fill in for when our nas went down since it had onboard gigabit.

[elfin jetty]

noice

i have a few old optiplexes i use as game servers

4th gen i7 still kicks ass

[pearl silo]

I still have a q6600 machine kicking around in case I need a recovery pc in a pinch. Made from an old Acer veriton.

[silver cliff]

howdy

[fluid ridge]

the government of canada cannot make a website for the life of them

i am trying to access my student loans dashboard and every time i do i need to go through this obnoxious proxy sign in with Interac and RBC just for it to say "There is nothing to go to - if you see this message you bookmarked this link" but i click the link from the email

i am going insan

[vagrant fractal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966829486245052456/1047156167375339640/AE6A9150-9607-406E-8B4B-5D1A7815027E.gif

[steep girder]

Dude the CRA website closes from 3AM to 6AM lmfao

[fluid ridge]

no shot

[steep girder]

Not only do the gov employees barely work shifts, the website itself

[fluid ridge]

bro they actually turning servers off to save power

them idle bandwidth costs are expensive

[timid meadow]

Maybe they should check out todays sponser... Squarespace!

[steep girder]

No because the web servers are still on. Who knows tf that means

[steep girder]

Not even the bandwidth. The biggest difference would probably be power where the savings only kick in once you fully shut down the machines... which they don't

Idk about fed (actually I do; more on that later) but I've seen on the provincial level from the inside in ON

Worked for a company which was the only goto contractor for ONCAT (some official recognized body for college/uni equivalencies etc)

Basically a portal where you transferred credits between schools in ON or in and out of province. Then whatever outside of ON in charge takes over idk. But it's both a uni-related site and government one... it's the usual difficulty of navigating x 10000

[marble stirrup]

Is ASUS ROG M16 a good laptop for productivity/Gaming purpose?

[steep girder]

But yeah I remember the contracts per few months or so to touch it up/refresh/add features are in the ballparks of millions $cad.

But usually like max 2 fresh out of college or interns are doing the whole thing themselves. They get paid the typical lowest end PHP sweatshop salaries... for PHP which is horrible by even its own standards

The entire thing was written back in like 2004 (by this same company) and after that it's just tag teamed by those interns. The code today looks literally like the same 2004 crap with very creative design pattern changes daisy chained to it. It's like a tree cross section. The history and where/when the next intern added on is visible

The very first edit I did was break a french locale php file because I didn't realize it was still encoded like ISO1256 or whatever

That windows one + line endings CRLF lol. The code was so old literally no modern text editor could open it properly because it didn't expect like 12000BC char encoding

[eager notch]

The IRS (the US government tax agency) website closes from 10 pm to 7 am for creating employer tax numbers

[steep girder]

So they're just running i++ and inserting it as next index column in the tables of their database with the rest being NULL lol?

That way later on when the next employer gets assigned an available number, it has to iterate through the rows to find last free id where all columns that shouldn't be NULL are checked. Then maybe some of them you skip because they're NULLable for real this time

[polar steeple]

The website closes

Do they put a little sign up

[steep girder]

That's best case scenario but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just loop that generates random number between 1 and row count until it hits an available number and uses it. The row count is queried on every loop iteration ofc because they would

[steep girder]

The tax portal service is currently unavailable between 3 AM to 7 AM because we're busy generating numbers in advance.

[polar steeple]

[steep girder]

That would explain the unplanned downtimes I guess because they don't know how many registrants will appear the next day. Maybe they like didn't generate enough over night and everybody has to wait another day

[polar steeple]

Canada is a weird place

[steep girder]

Well I mean it's not weird at all when gov wants to pocket more money. It's in our human nature to want more if the goal was that from the beginning. That in the extreme form is what we always call malicious greed.

[polar steeple]

I just meant in general man

Canada just kinda a weird place

Canadian people kinda fuckin weird

[steep girder]

Sadly, there's a very explanatory psychology theory which tells about how the higher up you go, the more likely it is to find a person willing to break ethics and morals.

[polar steeple]

Am I talking to a bot?

[steep girder]

Yes. I am a chat gpt bot apparently

Rammstein themed.

[steep girder]

Canadian people are too nice. Lately, the whole lot of us that finally snapped (because one can only take so much) were deemed to be racist anti-science domestic terrorists

And got like bank accounts frozen + run over by horse mounted RCMP officer

[polar steeple]

What

Are you one of the truckers

[steep girder]

No I don't own a truck. I didn't protest in Ottawa either... or anywhere tbh

[polar steeple]

Kinda sus ngl

[steep girder]

I'm a bot bound to cyberspace

[polar steeple]

Anyway

What is the capital of Canada

[steep girder]

Ottawa

[tender geyser]

Kentucky

[steep girder]

Ottawa, ON

[polar steeple]

I thought Ottawa was a province

I'm not even kidding

[steep girder]

No Ontario is the province where it's located.

The capital of Ontario is Toronto

[tender geyser]

Ontario is the only relevant province

[polar steeple]

U focking wot m8?

The capital of the province is a different city than the capital of the country?

That's a way to do things for sure

[steep girder]

I was thinking more like mistaking Canada for a province lol

[polar steeple]

No I know there are like 6 provinces or something

[steep girder]

Pretty sure the population of all of Canada is less than like California lmfao

[polar steeple]

Is Calgary a city or a province

[tender geyser]

More than that

I don’t even remember holy shit

[steep girder]

10 provinces and 3 territories

[polar steeple]

10?

The fuck

Don't 90% of you live within 100 miles of the US border?

[steep girder]

I think lol. Haven't thought about this stuff since like elementary school

[tender geyser]

Half of the population is in Ontario

[polar steeple]

What

[tender geyser]

Canada is so weird

And funny to talk about

[polar steeple]

So if TLOU happens Canada is just don't basically?

Done*

[steep girder]

Idk about exact numbers but yeah the vast majority of the population is along the southern border with US. Then you go a bit north and abruptly nobody except for like abandoned or active mines

plus dire wolves idk

[polar steeple]

Mf said dire wolves

Abandoned mines

[tender geyser]

Zombies would just get stuck in our maple syrup lakes

[steep girder]

Yeah they're like regular wolf mob but higher level + hungry

[polar steeple]

So it's basically just the setting of The Forest and Son's of The Forest?

Just a bunch of caves and dire wolves?

What the hell

What kinda secrets yall got up there

Yall got some gold up there

[steep girder]

Well honestly, if you head for like north ON (not even all the way), you'd be doing a pretty smart move in a SHTF scenario

[polar steeple]

I don't trust it

I feel like Russians live there

Secret Russians

[steep girder]

If you can survive it though lol. There's a reason practically nobody lives up north. You gotta build cabin, chop firewood and fight off lvl 99 bears and wolves

[tender geyser]

People crying about overpopulation when Canada exists

2nd largest land mass or something and has less population than an American state

Just shove everyone here

[polar steeple]

Okay so what if you grinded on level 1 boars in like, South Dakota, first

[steep girder]

Shove isn't even the right word. One sec let me check the current m^2 per person on Earth...

[tender geyser]

We have plenty of maple syrup to live off of

[polar steeple]

I feel like that's inaccurate

[steep girder]

Wait wtf if you exclude antarctica and oceans, it's about 55 people per square km

[polar steeple]

Don't exclude Antarctica we are all going to live there one day when the ice melts

[steep girder]

I wouldn't be too sure. The day antarctica melts could be the day everybody like us who went there resurfaces 😛

[polar steeple]

One day in 10,000 years they're gonna find the remains of humans on Antarctica, look at all the land revealed by the oceans receding, and think we couldn't get off our island

Antarctica is literally already melting though

The permafrost is at least

[steep girder]

Antarctica is unsustainable pretty sure. I mean for food, you have like seals and penguins... hell I'm pretty sure not even penguins hang around all year long; it's just at the water's edge too

[polar steeple]

We have fucked up the climate so badly we are melting what was formerly known as permafrost

[tender geyser]

Yeah there’s gonna be an ice age in 10 years!!

[steep girder]

Penguins show up to Antarctica every year and stay right at the edge so they're ready to dip from it as fast as possible

[tender geyser]

P probably a global wildfire catastrophe too….

[polar steeple]

Not all of Antarctica is an ice sheet lol

[tender geyser]

The world is so done for…

We are all doomed ..!

[polar steeple]

There are portions of Antarctica that are extremely close to the horn of South America

You can see Antarctica from Tierra Del Fuego

[steep girder]

Yeah but as I said, even its part-time native inhabitants like penguins don't even go on it. They stay on the edge of the ice shelf

Even they can't stand being there 😛

[polar steeple]

Fuck penguins

Learn to fly peasant birds

[steep girder]

Is that in around the cape of south am?

[polar steeple]

It's the southern most portion of South America yes

Land of Fire

[steep girder]

That's my guess because it's Spanish for earth of fire. So volcanoes lmfao

[polar steeple]

Yes

[steep girder]

Yup. Any place named like that is a bad sign

I mean I definitely want to visit some day because of things like Nazca lines idk

Machupichu is around there.

[polar steeple]

And the strait between South America and Antarctica is treacherous

Impeded human exploration for like 200 years

Look up Torres Del Paine national park

Patagonia and Tierra Del Fuego are a part of Torres Del Paine

[steep girder]

And that was built like maybe over a millennium ago but they added onto another pre-existing city which was ancient even to them lmfao

As always, the mysterious super-ancient part is somehow straight cut giant stones that make every theory questionable

[polar steeple]

The southern tip of South America has incredibly interesting history

It's been difficult to settle so no major culture has really ever dominated there

In modern history

[steep girder]

Like who were these 'giant people' in their mythology which were divine and long awaited to return 😛 according to Incas, they were the ones who built the earlier stuff.

[polar steeple]

Norwegians

[steep girder]

Theories you have a choice between like giant floating land masses drifiting across either Atlantic or Pacific Oceans. Another popular one is ancient aliens

Ice bridge has been disproven apparently except for perhaps Inuits in those very 3 northern Canadian territories we were talking about. Everybody else I think is now believed to have arrived to NA by another means

And btw Inuits in Canada at least are clearly completely different peoples from any other Native Americans

[polar steeple]

Inuits are asiatic I thought

And pretty recent settlers

[steep girder]

I think it's the other way around. Everybody else is more recent. Idk I'm no historian lmfao

[polar steeple]

Maybe so. Pretty sure I've read that the inuits came after what we call Native Americans

They're genetically distinct I know that much

[steep girder]

But theres kind of the same thing in the northern reaches of Russia many people don't know. Basically indigenous people who were there before any Indo-European or Indo-Iranian set foot there

[polar steeple]

And Korea

[steep girder]

Also did similar northern lifestyle things like snowshoes of some sorts I think. They rode reindeers

Not sure but I remember the Canadian inuits were more into wolf pack driven sled. In Russia, it was reindeer.

[polar steeple]

Then you got the curious case of the Finns. Genetically distinct from both slavs and scandinavians

[steep girder]

Yeah. Fino-Hungric or something.

Hungric ties into it somehow because there are today I think just 3 languages sharing the most specific group. Hungarian, Estonian and Finnish. Right?

[polar steeple]

Finnish language is closer to Hungarian but still not that close

[steep girder]

Estonian and Finnish I always knew but kind of blew my mind when I found out about Hungarian. From what I saw, it's like the other two but without the long suffixes on a lot of words 😛

[polar steeple]

My understanding is that how and why the Finns came to live in that part of the world is a bit of a mystery

They just kind of start appearing in the historical record

[steep girder]

Wait are you sure? Do you speak one of them? I'm from right beside Estonia but I have no clue. I've only been to Finland a few times; never the other two. Always thought Finnish and Estonian were the closest together and Hungarian was the different one to a larger extent.

[steep girder]

Perhaps the vast majority of Indo-European people have little known about them before like 500AD lol. All of them except for whoever had dealings with the Romans 😛

[polar steeple]

I do not, my understanding has always been that you have to speak Finnish to understand Finnish and that it doesn't have a lot of corollary

[steep girder]

I know a couple words in Finnish and recall seeing Estonian here and there by happenstance. None of the words made a connection to the few I know lmfao. Then like Google Translated a few in Hungarian together with the others the day I found out it's also in the same family 😛

But yeah, again, I have no clue. I'm Russian which means even my own people are pretty mysterious haha

Roman accounts found are literally a few if any. Slavic languages look like something Hellenic at the base (syntax, basic words like pronouns, declensions, etc). Somehow the base grammar coincides with even Latin; yet it's different enough to the point where it looks like some cousin. This leaves the Latin-esque portions unexplained...

Another giant chunk of it resembles Germanic or Norse langs. Again, it's too different and uniform to all Slavic languages a lot of it. I personally don't think it's loaned out entirely

On the other hand, a lot of Russian clearly has a bit of non-European stuff mixed in. Usually like at least none of the western slavic languages will have them. Instead it's often some other root which is either known to have existed in old Russian or not (some clearly weird unique Slavic thing)

[unkempt widget]

hi what are we talking about now

ethnicities?

[steep girder]

Why Slavs have pretty much little known about them before the second half of the first millennium lol

[unkempt widget]

that's actually a good question that i've never asked myself

i mean a lot of roman slaves were slavs, i'm pretty sure that's why slaves are called slaves

and ig they never developed writing until the mid first century

but are there many archeological sites involving slavs during the proto-history era?

[steep girder]

Scythae you can see marked on the maps right around when early stage evolved Slavs could have likely been there. Only that was the very Scythians we speak of today. They attacked the Romans once in a while I think and they called them the same thing as today + they were savages

Just like everybody else they fought. Germans? Savages and barbarians lol.

[unkempt widget]

the scythians weren't savages, the romans called them savages lol

[steep girder]

Yeah exactly haha. The German and Iranian peoples' accounts may or may not be the same

[vapid smelt]

the scythaes burnt gpus for fun

[unkempt widget]

damn :(

[steep girder]

Well, one way or another, they disappeared completely :/
According to the sole Russian lithography, the earliest thing told is how Rurik was taken as like Duke and led them. His heir was Duke Oleg.

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the one who founded kiev?

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Somehow Poles and Bulgarians I think at least have to be worked in though. Because the Poles are mentioned without explanation at one point.

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slavic migration was huge in the early medieval era

poland was occupied by slavs since the romans were a thing no?

bulgarians would be afterwards

it would be sometime between fourth crusade and ottoman occupation

[steep girder]

That's what I'm thinking. But specifically somewhere from the west. But Slavs look to have been some sort of distinct group already... to the same extent that Germans and Romans are different.

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somewhere in eastern europe

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Earlier no? Byzantia still had to be around

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it originated when western rome was a thing

[steep girder]

In fact, Kievan era already began and during that time, pretty sure that's when we inherited Orthodoxy from them

[vapid smelt]

yall are being way to nerdy right now ngl

[steep girder]

Right ok. That makes sense.

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that was when slavs got more documented, since they converted to christianity and started writing everything down

[steep girder]

I mean I'm trying to find my greatgreatgreatgreat[33x]grand-dad lol

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i don't even know where i learnt this stuff tbh, i don't remember learning about any of this

[steep girder]

Yeah lol. Probably when they got the cyrillic alphabet because now there's Greek that needs to be written transcribed or read

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If I have a 60Hz panel and I get 200fps in valorant at low settings should I just go high settings since I wouldnt see anything of 60fps? plus I stream and make youtube videos so it would help quality wise

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try to get above 120fps

[steep girder]

Transcribed because could be back then nothing was written except copies of the bible lol.

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you could limit it to 120fps, also up quality

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I get 160 on medoum and 120 on medium when streaming

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do medium then

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i play at 1080p

my pc isnt powerful but it gets me by

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yeah, cyrillic probably originated at that era

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/mxcHAKJ_Uac?t=43

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I stream at 1080p30 and record at 1080p30

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yep, exactly, 9th to 10th century

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wait so even if I'm streaming at a lower framerate then what I am getting I should still shoot for 120

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mhm

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ok

[steep girder]

You are rendering at 200fps but your screen is showing whatever is there every frame @60. If v-sync is disabled that is. You should probably have no less tearing with vsync off

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i have vsync disabled

its eats my fps

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brb

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vsync stabilizes your fps at your refresh rate, don't have it on - it increases response time

[steep girder]

Yes. Can you see tearing like this? 60Hz tearing is only more noticeable probably because you look at it for longer

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its slight tearing

[vapid smelt]

We have this new invention called gpus

[rigid flax]

should i turn on vsync and lose like 30fps

[steep girder]

If you had higher refresh with vsync off, you'd still more likely see a tear but it goes away faster to next frame.

[rigid flax]

i have a gpu

[steep girder]

If your fps is higher than refresh, turning vsync on should always give you exactly that fps

[rigid flax]

alright

thanks I've been trying to change my settings to get the best quality streams

[steep girder]

The moment your fps goes lower if there are scenarios like that, then you have a problem I guess. You'll miss a frame until next refresh.

[rigid flax]

I turn on vsync and lose a bit of fps

[steep girder]

There's a big chance that vsync will give you noticeable input lag at 60Hz. I'd play with it off.

[rigid flax]

that doesnt bother me as long as its above my 60hz panel

i do play with it off

I play valorant a lot so I need minimal input lag

[steep girder]

If you turn vsync off and the display mode is something x something 60Hz, your FPS as seen by your eyes on screen is no higher than 60. To be honest, your rendering should at least clear like color buffer and fill it once with image only after waiting for sync.

[rigid flax]

oh ok

[steep girder]

There could be threaded rendering or pre-rendered frames idk. In the end, it wouldn't make a difference except for helping to make sure you have it ready for next refresh.

[rigid flax]

alright

my pc isnt powerful but its price to performance is goated

[steep girder]

But again, unless you see some tearing that really bugs you, probably should keep vsync off at 60

[rigid flax]

alr thx

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anyways

i'm back

wait

[steep girder]

Where is StarMajor

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but back when did kiev convert to christianity

that was before the great schism no?

[steep girder]

Not sure. There were a few schisms I think. What's cool is since Rurik, there are supposedly only 2 blood lines all the way up to revolution in early 20th century lol

[merry gull]

off topic but
can y'all send a friend request to me
i won't accept or deny them, i'm tryna collect em

[steep girder]

Ivan the Terrible was a 'Rurikovich' still supposedly

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i'm talking about the great schism of orthodoxy and roman catholism

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really?

oh yeah

because ivan the terrible caused the years of troubles or smth like that

time of troubles

[steep girder]

But there was more than one point in time when something sketchy happened and nobody was sure if the prince was real lol. Some point where they try to overthrow the duke or Tzar idk. They also put his son in jail. But later on, somebody claims to be the son and people believe him ultimately

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there were like 2 tsar impostors

and then the polish took over momentarily

[vapid smelt]

🤓

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:(

[steep girder]

Yeah exactly. So nobody is sure. But I guess you could still say there were two true ones. Unless history would have played out differently in an alternate timeline given a false one was indeed there

Tbh, the only correct timeline for royal family is the one where they always have an heir and never stop ruling lmfao

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lol

[steep girder]

Non-royal opinions may or may not differ

Still, though, Rurik was supposedly asked nicely to take the throne. There was no throne but he made one lmao. That's a great person.

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lol

[steep girder]

Self made. It's the heirs that get handed down power with no real merit required. During Napoleon, one Tzar was very close friends and allies with France. Then his son came into power and like attacked him

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ngl a lot of death and wars would be avoided if monarchies didn't exist

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(Then France attacked back and they were screwed; he decided to burn Moscow down in advance lmao)

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chinese history is literally filled with:
emperor dies, 2 year old son comes to power, 60 million people die

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alexander?

wait who was alexander's father

paul i

[steep girder]

I don't think that's anywhere close to true in a lot of cases. On the other hand, you also have a lot of great monarchs who saved lives or went to battle with an aggressor. "He started it" but could be that if you don't stop an army, it proceeds to kill everybody else lol

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i just stated an example lol

[steep girder]

Peter I or II like created St. Petersburg Russia which everybody says is a beautiful city to this day. He invited European architects or something to build it (hence its look)

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did he go to the netherlands and stuff himself while being incognito

peter was the first romanov right?

wait no

[steep girder]

Also that guy was into shipwrighting so much so that he traveled to England to learn about it. The accounts say you'd usually see him building ships beside every other peasant with his hands too

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wrong century lol

it was mikhail fyodorovich

peter the great westernized russia

[steep girder]

So I mean not a bad guy I guess. He instated a law where all men were forced to shave with consequences for disobeying. Basically, he thought Russia looked uncultured and savage and he wanted to bring a bit more civility. Technically that's fascism but all monarchies are anyways. Forced to shave or get like lashes though... lol

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no, it was a beard tax, and it only included boyars lol

i don't think they would've had the bureaucratic capacity to enforce it anyways, it was the early 18th century

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Ah ok. Lmfao only boyars because try affording a razor as peasant

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lol true

[steep girder]

Probably like imported from west Europe as well because nobody shaved before that apparently

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he also westernized churches and the language

[steep girder]

Actually I wonder how old the barber razor is and how it evolved. It's impressively small and sharp. Probably some nice precision goes into that as well. The only thing like that which comes to mind is steel sword lol

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btw if you don't mind, where are you from again?

[steep girder]

Russia lol. Lived in Canada most of my life though

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oh that's why i was confused, i remember that you were looking for pc parts in canadian dollars or smth

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Actual Russia. I was born a few years after Soviet Russia (thank god)

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in terms of standard of living, it actually went down after the fall

i find that quite interesting

because everywhere else, the economies are thriving

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So yeah: apparently before I could remember, there was at least one economic collapse moment when my mom picked me up from daycare and stopped at grocery store. The first one all price tags had a zero added. She went to the second one and it had two zeroes lol

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yep, yeltsin era really fucked up the economy lol

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By the time she got to like the third apparently the shopkeeper was in the middle of adding zeroes as he watched the news lmao

[steep girder]

Actually earliest I remember was already Yeltsin. Pretty sure the economy was at its best under Yeltsin to date lol

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putin era did improve the economy before 2014

and then it went down into the shitter

and now it's even further down the shitter

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If not, then very early Putin but I'm not too sure of that. Tbh lmfao it's 2023 and Putin is still president.

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"president"

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Right now I hear there is a shortage of fuel injection systems for cars lol. McDonalds pulled out

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💀

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So forget the big mac index I guess because no big mac lmfao

Which btw yeah in 2016 I think I remember american fast food meals being pretty pricy for the avg wages. Not sure what to pick average or median but they're hella different there. There's a bigger wage gap between upper and lower class. Just before this recent war started, economy was already bad. A lot of it yeah was from 2014 during the first round.

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tbh macdonalds have also been quite pricy in the us and canada too

it takes like a full hour on minimum wage to earn enough money for a burger and fries

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Idk why Putin actually cut off gas to EU though. Like literally was one of the only things still happening between him and the entire west. Nobody believed him but he did it lol. If everybody calls your bluff 100% right away, it could be that your threat is impressively stupid

Then afterwards, didn't they like blow up the pipeline lmao

[full fossil]

im in charge of ordering food at work,
we eat snails tonight >:3

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lol

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damn

[full fossil]

Muahahahah

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i made a joke in a speech for school lol

[full fossil]

all schools are a joke :V

[vapid smelt]

NO U

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when i was advocating for nuclear energy, i said gas prices were very high (that was back when it was high), and i called it a "special nordstream cut"

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you clearly need to pay attention because you just made 2 grammatical errors in a row

[steep girder]

One thing I'm glad though is I called the civilian emergency draft almost a month prior. I distinctly recall my dad visiting and we were talking with his neighbor. Him and I agreed that I probably shouldn't go unlike my father: fit the age category, male, Russian citizenship

[full fossil]

its not a mistake, english is badly designed :V

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sure, but basic grammar isn't confusing

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you're only saying that because you dropped out

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A few weeks later "oh no we need more troops". Then videos of like starbucks laptop kids getting slammed on ground because it's time to go. It doesn't look like anybody is willing to put a stop to it through any means for the next while. So basically why even fight? It's a waste of human life. Am I not wrong for considering this something distinguished as a patriotic or non-patriotic choice?

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that's not a rule, that's a recommendation

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And get this: the best part about it is that I pay full time employee taxes in Canada from which a portion goes to 'aid' Ukraine by sending ammunition

If I'd gone to Russia, I could very well have found myself running away from bullets screeching past me which I paid for

All without asking for my consent first. Thanks Trudeau and Putin. You guys set up a hella scenario for my Russian citizenship holding arse

[stray apex]

Hey, if you get a conscription notice you might be able to claim asylum

[full fossil]

only mistake i did was not dropping out sooner 😭 all those years wasted, they stole my childhood, i will steal their lives >:[

[vapid smelt]

Wonder if they are still doing if you run away to you get shot rule

[stray apex]

Nah, they just lock you in a basement with no food if you don't wanna fight

[steep girder]

A few months back, it was emergency act to draft any civilians which are suitable to fight

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cope

[stray apex]

You think they can afford to shoot cannon fodder like that?

[full fossil]

cape*

[tender wyvern]

What happened to all of the notification channels?

Don’t they work anymore

[stray apex]

they're kind of iffy

[steep girder]

I got off from the mandatory service but when I turned 18, my grandma did call and say that there was a draft letter. I had to go and renew my passports anyways. After having all three incl Canadian taken away and fined, I managed to renew them in a few weeks. On top of that, there was a system put in place which finally logs declarations of dual citizenship

Before I came back to visit Russia in like 2016, they didn't even have any record of me having any dual citizenship. I think it wasn't long before that when it even was set up. At the end of the day, I was on file as Russian citizen Dmitri #94856948 who just turned 18. Army time.

[vapid smelt]

just like YouTubes notifications

[steep girder]

They probably didn't even know I was out of the country unless they checked with whatever the border recorded last... if that existed. So coming back to Russia was sketchy because for all I knew they were already mad because I was hiding from them for half a year.

[steep girder]

Russia couldn't afford to fight months ago, which was how I sniped that prediction literally weeks before when word got out that troops are running out. Civilians getting sent are also finite. Idk about numbers but they have training maybe if they served the mandatory at 18 years old. A nice portion of them might not have. If you get scholarship to college or uni, you don't have to serve I think.

So picture like 4th year specializing in optics and mechanics or some sht thinking he's going to write his thesis and graduate w honors. Instead boom patty wagon and BF4

(Only you don't respawn)

Like idk stay an arms length away from walls because bullets skid apparently. Somebody told me that. Did you know to keep that distance from all walls? I didn't lmao. Makes sense when you think about it but wtf.

[wooden pulsar]

What's that billing/invoice thing that was sponsored by LTT for awhile?

[steep girder]

Not the other way around? Best place to ask would be that billing/invoice thing's disc community

[vapid smelt]

only gross green people listen to sponsors

[steep girder]

Who watches videos on pay pal's channel and sees LTT store mentioned as sponsor at the beginning lmfao

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i wouldn't be green if they didn't get rid of twitch sub purple :(

[steep girder]

I'm gonna just assume it's the other way around and some financial thing sponsored LTT channel lol

[steep girder]

Best is the bits status. Idk what it does but you bought bits and donated to a streamer

Like cheapest status probably and you get absolutely nothing for it 😛

[wooden pulsar]

Well that's just it. I don't remember the name of it. All I remember is LTT having it as a sponsor spot

[manic torrent]

I mean, it depends. But absolutely yes bullets ricochet