public-chat

[silver sandal]

Hey gamer

[weary moon]

In that case it’s great

[wintry dagger]

then you're paying for a service

[fluid jacinth]

But will I get more frames?

[tired glade]

Yes

[fluid jacinth]

Oh so I'll do it why not

[fluid jacinth]

Sup man

Should I overclock ram also?

[plush rivet]

I wouldn’t

[fluid jacinth]

Ok

[weary moon]

Everyone knows that subscribing to FP gets you +5% frames and better 99% lows

[weary moon]

No

[plush rivet]

It’s honestly not worth it

[silver sandal]

Funny seeing you here

[fluid jacinth]

I've been here a couple times

[wintry dagger]

yes/no yes if your gpu is limited by your monitor through vsync and matches the rr of ur monitor, you will get more frames bc ur gpu is able to stretch is legs. if your gpu cant keep up with ur current monitor then theres no benefit in games

[silver sandal]

I'm a pilot now

[ocean sonnet]

welcome to the blue club

but it's a scam. they gave me title of a pilot, but I still don't know how to fly

[weary moon]

Ram OC is hot garbage and gives pathetic yields on massive stability sacrifices. CPU and GPU OC is easy, pretty safe, and gives proportionally much better performance increases

[silver sandal]

I'm colorblind 🤷‍♂️
Doubt they want me flying

[tired glade]

?

[ocean sonnet]

click on his name and the mystery will be solved

[wintry dagger]

😔

[silver sandal]

Yall said it was worth it, I have it now

[wintry dagger]

same

[tired glade]

Congrats

[rugged bridge]

🤔

[silver sandal]

[wintry dagger]

fuck it, I subbed

[ocean sonnet]

not necessarily that pathetic. unless you don't consider optimizing timings to be overclocking

[silver sandal]

chad

[rugged bridge]

good on ya

[weary moon]

I’m on the fence about whether I would call timing tweaks OC because you’re not really increasing the clock speed at all, but fair point

[tired glade]

Yea,7% boost, let's go

[ocean sonnet]

well that image shows 13% but sure 🤔

though what I would say is that trying to go above what the CPU model is known to support, or going over the advertised speeds of the RAM kit can be unnecessarily frustrating. just applying XMP or EXPO profiles is fairly sensible though

[weary moon]

In fairness, I bet tweaking the timings took more time than your CPU and GPU OC took combined

[fading iris]

Hey, is anyone able to link me to the video where Linus tests the 1000$ Wireworld cable with their Totalphase tester?
I thought I’ve watched it before but I can’t find it.

[weary moon]

Activating XMP is a no brainer and any manufacturer who tells you that’s OC is a lying bastard.

[silver sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgy5fX-VPCs
This?

Next time it's just a quick youtube search

[ocean sonnet]

yeah I would agree on you there. so going based on that definition, memory OC is gonna be frustrating because you're hoping your kit is of a better bin than the manufacturer placed it in

[weary moon]

Very well put.

[ocean sonnet]

but that raises the question of whether we should actually consider PBO overclocking. it's more like telling the CPU to go as fast as it knows it can

[full fossil]

Hi

[ocean sonnet]

the main differences with XMP are: YMMV, and cooling matters

[quiet inlet]

Today I came across the most incomprehensible thing in the world.

Can someone explain to me why a gigabyte aero fans cost 300 dollars?

[tired glade]

Because

[ocean sonnet]

you mean when you directly buy them from gigabyte?

[tired glade]

Because it's untouched listing for someone else

[weary moon]

PBO is fair to call over clocking I’d say because you’re dropping the power gate and letting it run over its rated clock speeds

[ocean sonnet]

but there are still limits in place to make sure it doesn't go to unstable clocks/voltages

so in a sense, it is limited to safe bounds just like XMP is, but you don't know the limits until you enable it

I guess the fact that it's still silicon lottery makes it OC 🤔

and whatever the power limits are, the motherboard manufacturer will have validated that those limits are safe for that motherboard

[weary moon]

Well it’s more that it just literally lets the CPU increase clocks over stock

And that’s fairly board dependent because chipset, materials, and baked in power limits as well as VRM cooling capacity dictates a fair bit of that.

[primal marsh]

[quiet inlet]

It would be good if Gigabyte sold them but it is not the case, they must be bought by another seller on Amazon

[fading iris]

welcome to ohio

[ocean sonnet]

correct. which is why the board knows what it is validated to handle and runs the CPU at those limits. "stock" just means any motherboard can handle this, whereas PBO means that the CPU runs at the limits that this specific motherboard is validated to handle

[primal marsh]

Yes

[tired glade]

Is there anything on background or weird wording in discretion?

[quiet inlet]

It looks normal but without buyers

These are the cheapest I found

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/GAOCHENG-PLB07010S12HH-ventilador-27R18-01071-A70S-27R18-01070-A70S/dp/B091PRQ9X2

[sharp bobcat]

plays MW2 original credit ost
opened up this chat
first thing I see is this

goes even harder

[quiet inlet]

By the way I give context, out of nowhere the fan of the processor began to wobble and out of nowhere it began to sound like an engine that does not start.

If someone wants to buy a laptop, I personally do not recommend Gigabyte at all

[past egret]

i personally do not recommend buying a gaming laptop at all

[quiet inlet]

I understand your point and I respect it but there are people like me who need a powerful equipment which they can transport from one place to another

[sharp bobcat]

EXPO settings are even all over the damn place
like, one mobo to another could have different EXPO preset

[ocean sonnet]

I haven't really looked into how EXPO works yet

although... weren't the presets stored on the RAM stick?

I'm not entirely sure what logic there would be in place that a preset would be "negotiated" from information on both the motherboard and RAM stick

[manic torrent]

because VMs, containers, pis, etc exist.

yeah... EXPO is on the stick, not the mobo

[sharp bobcat]

o wait yea

I forgot about that one

[ocean sonnet]

can't imagine that there would be a hardcoded list of presets for different mobos stored on the RAM stick, it would not be possible to handle mobos that weren't released yet, let alone the combinatorial explosion. I'd imagine there would just be many presets and the motherboard can filter out those that it knows it can't handle based on some values being out of range for that mobo

[molten drift]

Well... Now the family friend is like well.should.o try and bring it to a repair person instead when I told her she's looking at between 1000-1150 for a new PC. And I'm gonna take a in person look at it on Thursday... Gotta remember to bring purelle.

[weary moon]

Agreed, hard to imagine them putting solid storage on a volatile storage component just for that

Especially when people have perfectly good motherboard that could read a few kilobytes of hardware ID information

[thick agate]

why purelle

[molten drift]

Cause the owner of the PC is like 13...

And I know what 13 year old children do on their PC in their bedroom...

[weary moon]

Do you need a hazmat suit as well? 13 year olds are gross

[molten drift]

I really hope not...

I'm half expecting to see stuff on the PC that I don't want to see.

I'm also expecting lots of out of date drivers and windows updates.

[manic torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNmyyrEZho

[molten drift]

And if his younger brother is any guidance a cats worth of hair in the PC

[dusty rune]

play fortnite and minecraft, right

[molten drift]

You sweet summer child

[dusty rune]

what else can they do, huh?

[weary moon]

I mean… if we’re being real, anyone under the age of like 35 at this point probably had a lot of really shady stuff on their computer at age 13

[molten drift]

Yup...

[manic torrent]

lol under 35. I'm 42 this year

[molten drift]

His I think younger is like 11 brother had like 3 cheat softwares I removed and a driver ransomware...

[summer folio]

Filled the family PC to the brim with DC++ P..

[manic torrent]

but mine was more full of linux and random crap

[weary moon]

I know I did, but I also know that my older brothers were drinking, smoking, doing drugs and getting into bad fights when they were 13 so maybe my browsing wasn’t so bad

[molten drift]

And then a bunch of dust, and drivers and windows out of date.. so... Fingers crossed I can "fix" his PC.

[manic torrent]

actually I think at 13 I still didn't have the internet.

[summer folio]

Women smoking cigars from the wrong hole

[molten drift]

At 13 I was on secondlife...

And like og YouTube.

[dusty rune]

man why do people cheat in video games...

[weary moon]

Kind of what I meant, anyone under 30-35 probably had internet at home at 13. Above that, no guarantee

[heady flicker]

dopamine

[dusty rune]

8 ball pool cheats are the nastiest

[molten drift]

Cause their a literal child and are dumb

[weary moon]

Damn I miss Yahoo pool

[ocean sonnet]

hey, I cheat... in single player games

[summer folio]

You get too little gold in Red Alert,
obviously need money hack.

[heady flicker]

obviously you need stockfish

[dusty rune]

i understand money hacks, but stuff like aimbots is so cringe

[weary moon]

The entire C&C franchise gave you too fewresources to start, especially as a 12 year old shit who didn’t want to feel bad at video games

[molten drift]

They did in... Fortnite and Roblox...

[dusty rune]

damn, they found fortnite hacks?

[molten drift]

They thought they did...

[weary moon]

Let me know if they find free Minecraft download 2023 real no viruses

[molten drift]

Which clearly when I didn't have Fortnite opened and it was using 40+% CPU usage yeah totally legit Fortnite hacks. I was literally shaking my head and their mom was like do I want to ask

This was on the younger brother... Thursday I try helping the older brother

[dusty rune]

i never understood how people my age get viruses

[ocean sonnet]

by going outside

[vital niche]

Happy Tree Friends strengthens the mind

[dusty rune]

im like a phenomenon, installing from the shadiest sites and not getting virused

[ocean sonnet]

not as shady as you think they are

[vital niche]

which download button shall I click

ah yes, the sketchiest one

[dusty rune]

yeah true

i kinda try not to pick the sites with the most amount of ads and it usually works out

[vital niche]

or go Usenet

[ocean sonnet]

perfectly valid for media content

[vital niche]

BDrips are on there

ever since streaming didnt think we needed special features

[weary moon]

I wouldn’t even know what the sites with the most ads are any more since like… 2007.

[ocean sonnet]

the ones that ublock completely blocks instead of filtering out ads

[timid meadow]

No links

[vital niche]

but yeah also intitle:"index of /"

r/opendirectories style

saved movie night a few times with that one

[timid meadow]

Ill eventually learn to use Usenet. I like to hunt for lost media sometimes and its useful for that

[vital niche]

like the first 100 spongebob episodes (yes even the banned ones)

[ocean sonnet]

honestly the amount of forever lost stuff is kinda sad

[vital niche]

archive.org is tryyyingggg

[ocean sonnet]

there's tons of stuff archive.org cannot touch because the copyright trolls are still guarding them even if there is no legal way to purchase that stuff anymore

[vital niche]

even BOOKS are being redacted. Roald Dahl foundation is being coerced into editing out to make it more "woke"

[timid meadow]

I preserved the first episode of Harry potter at home and maintain the only active archive i know of. All but the first were online. I believe i was the only one to save episode one

[vital niche]

The Netflix had a role in that because they were doing a film deal

[dusty rune]

wtf is usenet

[vital niche]

fight club

[dusty rune]

got it

[dull granite]

what

what does it mean

[vital niche]

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/1158347261/roald-dahl-books-changed-offensive-words

[timid meadow]

Imagine searching the entire internet except its actually the entire internet. At least significantly more then youd find on google

[vital niche]

woke edits to books that were good but children are pansies now

[timid meadow]

Thats usenet afaik

[vital niche]

yeah also multipart rars in torrents are because of historically Usenet

the more u know

[dusty rune]

and id imagine using it is difficult

[dull granite]

i mean he did shared antisemitic views (based on article) so i guess where changing some words may come from

[vital niche]

well it was originally used for text only

[timid meadow]

Ive always wondered that. Multipart rars infuriate me but then i learned im out of touch and it has uses

[dusty rune]

man i hate multipart rars

[vital niche]

before, yknow, BINARIES got involved like Linus ISOs

[vital niche]

thank usenet

it had to be split up between centralized servers

[ocean sonnet]

usenet was an early form of forums, basically people would post messages to groups and various servers owned by various ISPs would then mirror the groups to their own servers. at some point people discovered that this would be useful to host actual files. you could only store text there, but people converted binary files to a text form that could be posted by small segments at a time (post sizes were limited), which would then be downloaded by others and converted back to binary files

[dull granite]

I wouldn't go any further in this debate tho because it may be political and that's a no-no here

[timid meadow]

Accidentally downloaded a 1tb series of a show and every episode was a multi-rar

[dusty rune]

im sorry for you

[timid meadow]

Well, i didnt accidentally dl. I accidentally dl that specific one

Was pissed

[dusty rune]

i never understand how to use multipart rars but it usually works out when i have to

[vital niche]

the idea behind it is that the parity files from the program par2 generates Hamming codes for data integrity

say, if some parts of the archive were inaccessible or damaged

[timid meadow]

Open and extract just the main one. Theres usually 1 or 2 thatll work. Either a standard zip among the files or use zip1 or zip0

[dusty rune]

oh, ill have to rember that

[vital niche]

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/8ggur9/perfect_rarpar2_size/

so yeah thank usenet for that WinRAR license you never buy

it's always rar until it's multipart zips hahaha

[dusty rune]

man imagine if we had to buy winrar

[dull granite]

7zip exists but

[dusty rune]

tbh i like 7zip more

[vital niche]

PeaZip ftw

besides shitty QT5 ui

[sonic barn]

I pirate WinRAR/s

[sonic barn]

Qt 6.4 is sort of new still

[dull granite]

wow i just got someone banned by reporting on Twitter

[ocean sonnet]

haven't used anything but 7zip for decades

[sonic barn]

*5.4

[vital niche]

it is quite the beast with the cutiepie name

[sonic barn]

It's like 8yrs old

[dull granite]

maybe because he was making inappropriate comments under a normal photo of a couple and then replied to me calling out his behavior with a certain word starting with "f"

[muted relic]

I can't stand seeing Alex use Valheim as his default game to benchmark in videos.

[dull granite]

i guess rules still do apply on elon's twitter

[muted relic]

It's so damn ugly and unoptimized

[sonic barn]

Fortnite

[ocean sonnet]

should use factorio more in benchmarks

[vital niche]

we call this ElonBaited Musk ban

[sonic barn]

I think they should use the new dead space and portal rtx

Shows rt performance

[dusty rune]

[sonic barn]

If I was reviewing cards it'll just be perf in CSGO

[full fossil]

Ello mate

[sonic barn]

More kills = better card

[ocean sonnet]

afaik LTT doesn't do this but I'm always annoyed when people claim they test at "max settings" and then... enable DLSS. a feature that reduces image quality cannot be a part of "max settings"

[sonic barn]

They do if they're testing that

[ocean sonnet]

yeah but then it's specifically mentioned

[sonic barn]

Except arc I think

[dusty rune]

well sometimes it does look better.. sometimes

[sonic barn]

But that was Intel lying

[ocean narwhal]

ltt continuing to pump out crappy vids about audio lfg

[ocean sonnet]

it's especially silly now with frame generation. you don't just have fake pixels anymore, you even have entire fake frames

[sonic barn]

Cyberpunk test early unit

[dusty rune]

honestly FG isnt all that bad

[sonic barn]

We need a vid for remote desktop testing

[wintry dagger]

or when ppl say "gaming at 8k" and its just dlss at performance

linus

[ocean sonnet]

yeah

[sonic barn]

RTX 4090 can native

[dusty rune]

i tried playing doom with amd link from school, didnt go well

[ocean sonnet]

how do you define "can"? what framerate is the threshold between "can" and "can't"? and what settings?

[sonic barn]

Depends on connection speed

[dusty rune]

mobile data

not the best obviously

[sonic barn]

But wanna know if they can find loopholes

[dusty rune]

tbf it did work, but it had crazy input delay

[sonic barn]

My laptop supports 5g sim card

[dusty rune]

garfield kart worked well though

[sonic barn]

I can play osrs on 128kbps

[ocean sonnet]

[abstract flint]

@untold tide

[full fossil]

Banned

[wise pumice]

[summer folio]

Damn, that's many G-Forces!

[silver sandal]

nanner for scale

[wise pumice]

the almight nanner

[silver sandal]

amen

[wise pumice]

i love getting free nitro again

[silver sandal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/602948090151829544/1019670940310835200/ezgif.com-gif-maker9.gif

Fake nitro better (than paid, not free)

[wise pumice]

one day i woke up and literally saw "free" in the nitro tab

[full fossil]

One day discord will die xP

[wise pumice]

that day obesity will be cured

[full fossil]

Discord isn’t holding the US together tho

[wise pumice]

shhhhhh

[full fossil]

Ur cat is taking a shower

[summer folio]

Why is your wall curvy like that

nvm, was curtains

[hybrid shell]

💀

[wise pumice]

[brisk tundra]

speaking of PC building, for people that build those small custom portable PCs, how often do you guys take it on the go?
like this for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJHIZa7tMl4

[wise pumice]

ew copy and paste

[brisk tundra]

well no one is replying lol
I can wait

[vital niche]

nobody is replying? LOL this isn't a Quora post

or ur livestream

[brisk tundra]

nah, just being curious

[void bough]

anyone have 7900xtx Powercolor Red Devil and knows the dimensions of the box? (not the limited edition)

[manic torrent]

why do you need the dimensions of the box?

[void bough]

delivery fee

[manic torrent]

surely an estimate would be close enough

[void bough]

I'm stupid, box dimensions are important when using parcel locker, that's why I wanna know lel

[heady flicker]

installing windows is honestly the worst part of setting up a pc

[rugged bridge]

just bought me 2 of these

[polar fern]

who pinged meh

[rugged bridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar fern]

i see how it is

[rugged bridge]

might of been a reply

[polar fern]

sure it was

😛

[manic torrent]

I have 7 passthrough versions of that

[rugged bridge]

wdym?

[manic torrent]

Means that when I switch on my KVM it doesn't change monitor setup

[rugged bridge]

@polar fern easiest way to see is going to the search and doing mentions:youruser#1234

[polar fern]

so i have an mx keys graphite that logitech sent me as compensation for my other keyboard having issues

[rugged bridge]

ahh yea right

cool

i need it for a server lol

[polar fern]

but

the brightness keys dont do squat

[vital niche]

thats an ACPI feature

[manic torrent]

I use one for a server - for the camera output to use as a webcam 😄

[nocturne rover]

How do I fix my Android 13 Hotspot from having Strict Nat whilst trying to play on Ps5?

[rotund osprey]

el gato

[rotund osprey]

not sure sounds like a mobile network issue

[pearl remnant]

tech support in public chat lol

i guess that's one way to get attention on an issue

[nocturne rover]

[dreamy rose]

play on pc Instead

[nocturne rover]

My friends ain't on that platform so it's pointless, an before you mention cross platform, not all the games we play together have it

[dreamy rose]

L friends

[nocturne rover]

Life

[dreamy rose]

people shouldnt be bothering with Sony anymore

PS is only alive cause of the brand name

[pearl remnant]

PS3 was the skip generation and I'm getting that vibe off the PS5

PSX? blocky and good. PS2 blocky and good. PS3 curvy and skipped. PS4 blocky and good. PS5 seems curvy and skipped

[dreamy rose]

i had both PS3 and PS4. and I even felt like PS should have been skipped. but we had majority of our games there

well only PS3

[pearl remnant]

Are you an Xbro?

Because I have skipped the Xbox line entirely because I don't play halo or sports games

[polar fern]

imagine naming soming "box" then not knowing what to name it so it's "x box" unknown box

[dreamy rose]

i stick to PC Now but the Xbox was always the better console. and the better company

[void bough]

and adding 360 because why not

[polar fern]

or its bo but edgelord with the x bookends

[dreamy rose]

DirectX

[golden talon]

Xbox is definitely better than PS now with gamepass

[pearl remnant]

its because it came from the name "Direct X box" because it was a PC running windows stripped down to the bare min to run direct X. IE Direct X box.

[polar fern]

they clled it the 360 because the wii was codenamed revolution - big brain naming schemes

[pearl remnant]

Game pass robs sales

[polar fern]

yeah thats what they want you to think

[pearl remnant]

oh ok

[golden talon]

it gives us gamers more shit to play for less money so W

[pearl remnant]

Might as well pirate then

[dreamy rose]

the og xbox had Windows 2000 boot in 4 seconds

thats what sold bill on it

[golden talon]

what if i don’t want to do illegal shit

[polar fern]

msft are about as good at naming things as they are making things - all knockoffs and also-ran

[pearl remnant]

I thought Bill hated the bastardizerd version of windows

YOu're riught, its technically legal.

[polar fern]

william gitz

[dreamy rose]

yeah. but it booted up really fast.

[pearl remnant]

and?

[heady flicker]

https://hardforum.com/threads/did-windows-10-truncate-the-name-of-your-user-account.1870568/ guess I'm not the only one

[pearl remnant]

a web page with text only loads hella fast too

[polar fern]

hilleu eh em uilliem gitz an i own muckruhsuft

[heady flicker]

I hate this so much

after windows 10 I'm going to ubuntu

[polar fern]

imagine using some long name

[dreamy rose]

that's what sold him. this is the late 90s early 2000s remember

[heady flicker]

dude, the user file name cannot exceed five characters

like wtf

[pearl remnant]

.....ok

[fluid ridge]

windows 11 solos ubuntu in almost every way besides privacy

[polar fern]

oh that billy gates he's suhc a character

[heady flicker]

and this freaking os backups everything to a server/cloud/whatever the heck you want to call it

[polar fern]

other computers

[heady flicker]

there is no reason to backup a screenshot

[pearl remnant]

I respect linux in it's open source-ness but I run windows because I'm lazy and games are primarily written for this OS

[polar fern]

i actually dont like the MX keys key layout at all - oh well it was free

[dreamy rose]

but what if you have Kubuntu (it is a bad base but just for example)

[dreamy rose]

majority of my library are native to linux

[pearl remnant]

I get why games aren't typically run on Linux. You need to have a standard environment and linux is not about that

[pearl remnant]

of YOUR library, not mine

[fluid ridge]

i dont give a fuck about anything else if the thing just looks bad

[dreamy rose]

nothing is below Silver on Proton DB

[fluid ridge]

ubuntu hurts to look it if you put it side by side with windows 11

[pearl remnant]

how much overhead does proton have?

[dreamy rose]

everything there is playable

[pearl remnant]

It is literally a compatibility application

[heady flicker]

that's like the most important part

[fluid ridge]

i disagree

[heady flicker]

as long as its battery efficient and can open a web browser and store text files and images it serves my purpose

[pearl remnant]

does proton run games natively in linux or does it create virtualized OSs?

[fluid ridge]

i will take the privacy hit for app compatability, visuals, and user friendliness every day of the week

[dreamy rose]

GNOME is the direction Microsoft wants to take windows

[heady flicker]

you'll probably need wine

[fluid ridge]

i hope they do a better job than canonical

[dreamy rose]

it takes DirectX and converts it to Vulkan

[pearl remnant]

<# that overhead

Nothing better than running an OS that requires conversion into something else

[dreamy rose]

there's not a massive performance hit.

and only hurdle here is Anticheat

[pearl remnant]

hahaha, i bet

Anti cheat cannot exist in linux

[heady flicker]

yeah it doesn't

[dreamy rose]

it can. the Devs just need to support it.

[pearl remnant]

haaaaaaaaaaaa

[heady flicker]

for my use case linux has everything I want

[pearl remnant]

for what % of market share and how much work to support it?

[dreamy rose]

i'm not talking going linux native, making it work through proton.

[pearl remnant]

statement stands

for what % of market share and how much work to support it?

[dreamy rose]

while yes. Linux gaming is small. but listen. The Steam Deck.

[mystic rose]

Is there a vc so I can stream on my phone? I need help on my pc and it won't start up.

[pearl remnant]

how is it different that running proton on a normal linux machine?

[mystic rose]

I'm not tech savvy ay all either

[pearl remnant]

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-proton-on-the-steam-deck-works/#:~:text=Proton works in conjunction with,alternative implementations of system services.

[dreamy rose]

the Steam Deck is selling, and its taking Linux userbase higher

[pearl remnant]

lolololol oh my god, wine. It really is just running virtualized windows

hahahahahaha

you're counting steam deck as part of the linux user base

how many of them don't even know its linux based?

[dreamy rose]

yes. because its a Linux computer. and everyone knows because its been raved about.

[pearl remnant]

and can we even really count is as part of the linux user base when it needs to run WINE?

no, not everyone

let's go to the store page and see if it tells the consume it is running linux

https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

SteamOS. Not exactly being upfront saying it is running linux

To be fair, what is PS5 xbox and switch running as their base os?

[dreamy rose]

Arch Based. yeah i think that's pretty bloody obvious

[pearl remnant]

the average consume does not see arch as linux

lolololBOOM as you were writing I KNEW that was your comment

[dreamy rose]

PS4 was using a BSD

[pearl remnant]

all the same

[dreamy rose]

maybe 5 is the same

[pearl remnant]

hahaha

[dreamy rose]

Xbox has always just used Windows

[stray epoch]

❌

[pearl remnant]

yeah and you wouldn't include xbox users as windows users

are PS players Sony users?

[stray epoch]

xbox and windows is not the same lol

[pearl remnant]

they aren't!

[dreamy rose]

that's not comparable.

[pearl remnant]

and steam deck is not the same as linux

you are the one making the comparison

[vital niche]

most epic I Use Arch btw evar

[stray epoch]

yeah that’s comparable

what is bro on

[pearl remnant]

you said steam deck users are linux users

[dreamy rose]

of course its not. its Heavily modified.

[pearl remnant]

are they or are they not

do I need to snip your quote?

[vital niche]

Steam Deck users are as much Linux users as Mac users are BSD users

[dreamy rose]

do your research into the Steam Deck before trying to sound smart.

[manic torrent]

nope

[pearl remnant]

wht research am I missing

let's go

[stray epoch]

then why say xbox has always used windiws

[manic torrent]

closer to a TV with android with a phone

[dreamy rose]

the fact the Steam deck gives you a Literal Desktop.

[manic torrent]

yeah .... no

[pearl remnant]

we never agreed that was a requirement

[dreamy rose]

because it is Windows.

[pearl remnant]

you said LINUX

[stray epoch]

but its not

you literally just said it’s modified now

what 😂

[manic torrent]

steamdeck is literally linux. You can run the same thing on other hardware.

[dreamy rose]

Hirens Boot CD is Modified windows. its still windows.

[stray epoch]

i feel like your joking at this point bruh 🤣

[vital niche]

erm what

[pearl remnant]

lol and bionicle said steam deck users are linux users

[vital niche]

WinPE

[stray epoch]

if you’re joking thats funny asf but if not like bruh

[manic torrent]

I mean, he's sort of right. I mean, it's absolutely linux, but I also see the other side

[vital niche]

It's actually Ganoooo slash LINOCKS

[pearl remnant]

lol proton is making more gamers linux gamers. WHEN PROTON IS RUNNING WINE TO VIRTUALIZE WINDOWS

[manic torrent]

but if you're talking userbase of linux - they absolutely count. they are just not the same as linux-on-the-desktop users.

[pearl remnant]

they do not

[dreamy rose]

again, not everyone uses it as a Desktop. but its Linux through and through and they still count

[manic torrent]

uhhhh I don't think you understand what that means

[vital niche]

https://stallman.org/saintignucius.jpg

[manic torrent]

I'm not counting it as a desktop at all

[pearl remnant]

linux sucks for gaming so it runs proton for WINE and compatibility

[vital niche]

smooth take

but Vulkan

[dreamy rose]

exactly. Steam only cares about gaming. and that's what Deck Does.

[manic torrent]

I'm saying they are part of the userbase of linux, but they are not the same "linux users" on the desktop

[pearl remnant]

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-proton-on-the-steam-deck-works/#:~:text=Proton works in conjunction with,alternative implementations of system services.

You're right, I don't

[manic torrent]

and nowhere in there does virtualisation occur.

which is exactly what I said.

[pearl remnant]

Just uses windows APIs to translate into POSIX

which is exactly awhat I said

[manic torrent]

no, it isn't

[pearl remnant]

f me

xda doesn't know shit then

[vital niche]

https://fmylife.com

[vital niche]

remember this website

[manic torrent]

No, it isn't WHAT YOU SAID

the xda quote is 100% correct, you just can't read

[pearl remnant]

hey here is something cool, I can change my view on that and MOVE ON

[manic torrent]

... I said you were wrong, you said no I am not, you posted a link that proved yourself wrong

[pearl remnant]

still needs windows to do linux work

[manic torrent]

then claimed the W?

[dreamy rose]

r/confidentlyincorrect

[pearl remnant]

negative, I can argue and let people show me I'm wrong and change as neededd

[manic torrent]

much like intel using a translation layer for dx9 games. absolute garbage. so stupid.

[pearl remnant]

wish I could say the same for others

[manic torrent]

this magical line between windows and linux you seem to think exists doesn't

[manic torrent]

you never actually said you changed though.

[pearl remnant]

grats on your linux* user base

while xbox doesn't count for windows

but they aren't the same

[manic torrent]

yep.

because the xbox is a dedicated console with specific hardware that isn't a general purpose computing device

and the steamdeck is a computer that runs linux.

[dreamy rose]

Xbox is still running the NT kernel

[wispy marsh]

Correction: linux runs nicely on ARM, windows requires more work

I see that as one line

[pearl remnant]

you can write over xbox or create an xbox dev kit pc but whatever

linux bros will be linux bros

[manic torrent]

you can write over xbox?

what exactly does that entail

[wispy marsh]

A sharpie

[dreamy rose]

and if the Xbox isn't running windows then how do you explain the Xbox being in the Windows Universal Platform AND running Emulators through Dev mode?

[pearl remnant]

What did modding an xbox entail?

I've *NEVER * voided warranty by modding a PS2

[dreamy rose]

Modding an Xbox? what is this, 360?

[pearl remnant]

Guess I need a xbox and PS version of WINE

[manic torrent]

... Are you talking about OG xbox?

[dreamy rose]

you mean an Emulator? yeah. they exist for the 360 and PS3 and below

[pearl remnant]

I haven't looked into modding current gen shit because I stopped having to

No, not an emulator

but thanks for playing'

Looks like people are doing it

not that well

[manic torrent]

so that makes it windows?

I'm not even sure what the argument is here, or why

[dreamy rose]

that's all you're gonna get for Compatibility As far as consoles go.

[dreamy rose]

Again. Dev Mode. Everyones happy with Dev mode

[manic torrent]

the difference between virtualisation, emulation, translation, containerisation is blurring by the day anyway

[dreamy rose]

a one time fee that lets you run what you like in a limited sandbox.

[vital niche]

GRUG USES DOCKER

[stray epoch]

bionic are you still truing to prove your point that windows xbox

[vital niche]

GRUG HAPPY WITH DOCKER

[dreamy rose]

except people like me who would like to run Linux on an Xbox

[dreamy rose]

i've already Proved that Xbox is using Windows as a base.

[stray epoch]

no

[vital niche]

Let's be real tho, the main reason for modding is Piracy?

[manic torrent]

xbox is built from some of the same things as windows.

because it makes development, testing, production, etc easier.

xbox is not windows

[stray epoch]

🫵✅

[dreamy rose]

its always gonna exist. and its been the driving force for a lot of it. but the people hacking dont care for Piracy and want Homebrew instead

[vital niche]

But wait...

Windows 10 == X

coincidence?

[dreamy rose]

Anything built on NT is Windows.

[manic torrent]

any OS released by microsoft ever is windows

[vital niche]

What's next, BingOS? shudders

[manic torrent]

The Xbox OS is very different to current desktop windows. Whatever you want to call it.

It is both a subset and a superset of current gen desktop windows.

[dreamy rose]

yes, but nobody is taking the NT Kernel and making a Windows Competitor with it. its all Windows

[vital niche]

well there's windows and then there's ReactOS

hehehe

[manic torrent]

Microsoft(r) Windows(c) Xbox(r) OS.

[runic lagoon]

So many os. So little licenses

[dreamy rose]

yes. and ReactOS is meant to be Windows, but open source. and its unstable and stuck on server 2003. its not competing with windows

[manic torrent]

neither is Microsoft(r) Windows(c) Xbox(r) OS.

[full fossil]

mfs be like "if you buy atomic heart youre supporting the war were cancelling you"

but will buy gas for their car without a care in the world

[manic torrent]

I mean, you can choose not to buy a game, you cannot realistically choose not to go places.

[dreamy rose]

its the NT Kernel. its windows. it works with the Windows Universal Platform. its Windows

[full fossil]

its still hypocritical

let bygones be bygones

[dreamy rose]

doesn't matter if its a Desktop or not.

[manic torrent]

No ethical consumption under capitalism. You are very clever.

[full fossil]

this is true yes. however im referring mostly to the hot topics so to speak.

[manic torrent]

ehhhh, in the same way that a router is linux. You're not a linux user if you have a router that uses linux

[heady flicker]

quick question, were laptops always this hot

[wispy marsh]

It's not just capitalism. The correct term is "Deregulation benefits the powerful and the rich"

[heady flicker]

like, temperature wise

[manic torrent]

Telling people they can't have opinions on a game because they use petrol is a shit take.

[full fossil]

thats not what i said

[heady flicker]

I feel like I'm getting cooked alive with it on my lap

[dreamy rose]

ffs put it on a desk

[full fossil]

im saying that you cannot go out and harass people for playing a fucking game because it "supports the war" when you do the same by buying gas

[heady flicker]

not a desktop, a laptop ffs

[manic torrent]

basically.. yes. In living memory. They should be fine if the CPU is not being used much

[dreamy rose]

put it on a Desk.

[heady flicker]

it's my first good-ish laptop so I'm surprised by how much heat it generates

[manic torrent]

because once again, buying gas is not discretionary. There is no alternative (effectively)

[heady flicker]

my last laptop was a i3 laptop from 7 years ago

[full fossil]

i understand, but it still supports the war.

[heady flicker]

now it's a ryzen 7 6800u

[manic torrent]

.... buying gas has supported wars for 50 years.

[dreamy rose]

a great CPU. use those integrated Graphics

[manic torrent]

are you playing a game? Or just browsing crap

[heady flicker]

just browsing

I can't undervolt this can I

[manic torrent]

check your CPU usage etc, also is it plugged in? It will run a higher power profile when plugged in

you can change the power profile

[full fossil]

alright... im still just saying youre technically supporting the war if you buy gas, so therefore harassing innocent people online over a fucking game is meaningless when you are also funding said war...

im not saying stop buying gas or stating my political views im legit just stating the facts of the situation lol

[heady flicker]

through bios right

[dreamy rose]

Windows

[full fossil]

not that harassing and ruining peoples lives over a game should ever be fucking done. ever

[manic torrent]

the comparison is stupid. If you want to bitch about people "harassing innnocent people" then do so, but your argument is ridiculous.

[dreamy rose]

harassing people over buying a game was always dumb

[full fossil]

my argument is a fact

it still makes those people hypocrites

[manic torrent]

existing makes everyone hypocrites. "society is bad how dare you try to make something better"

[dreamy rose]

unless its League. league is fair game.

[full fossil]

lmfao

[full fossil]

agreed. im seeing it now with atomic heart

[void bough]

f the world lel

[full fossil]

harassing people for giving profits towards the russians exactly like buying gas does (and probably alot of other things) is dumb

[dreamy rose]

the new games are all shit anyway. classics are where its at

[brave flare]

so buy a 60 grand car instead

[full fossil]

AH is kinda good

ngl

[brave flare]

electric cars are garbage and need to be improved atm

[dreamy rose]

how complete at launch?

[void bough]

well I mean it got cracked so...

[full fossil]

literally no problems

[void bough]

just play it for free lel

[full fossil]

well no the dev build was leaked but it has a lot of issues

[manic torrent]

"exactly like buying essentials that you have no choice over"

JFC, head->ass

[runic lagoon]

I payed like 60 for 10 gallons today. 😂

[brave flare]

what’s the controversy over AH anyways??

[dreamy rose]

"Russia bad"

[brave flare]

I find that so funny

[manic torrent]

like I don't know enough about the game to comment TBH, but your comparison is stupid regardless

[brave flare]

everything most people own is Chinese made

[heady flicker]

no no, taiwanese

[brave flare]

if not components of it are Chinese produced

[manic torrent]

pretty sure that china isn't at war with ukraine right now

[brave flare]

If we’re talking about computers maybe

[full fossil]

bob, it is still funding the war either way. i know its essential for some or whatever, but it is STILL funding the war

[brave flare]

Uyghurs.

[manic torrent]

The difference is CHOICE.

[dreamy rose]

Communism vs Capitalism shit from before but turned to 400867% cause Russia couldn't help but cause conflict.

[manic torrent]

western people do not care

[brave flare]

yeah they care more about the oppressed and dying ukrainians

[night heron]

communism is when no iphone

[void bough]

no food*

[manic torrent]

not really, they care that it will affect other things.

[runic lagoon]

Most of fabe are in taiwan. That’s one of the reasons USA has tying to bring some of it back in house. As well as raw materials for them, and batteries.

[wispy marsh]

It's not just communism. The correct term is "Deregulation benefits the powerful and the rich"

[polar fern]

...

[night heron]

that face when american companies throw away so much food that has extremely minor defects that they could nearly eliminate world hunger

[polar fern]

welcome to linus philosophy tips

[night heron]

and that's not including all the food that restaurants throw away at the end of the day

[full fossil]

how many people CHOOSE to go on a vacation, or drive to a friends house or a fast food restaurant?

sure theres essential needs for gas, but theres also alot of times its not needed

[manic torrent]

The world is interdependant. Raw materials are shipped across the world. processed. shipped back. processed again. shipped back

[void bough]

yeah this is painful

[brave flare]

give them leftovers that may be be spoiled?

[night heron]

theyre not spoiled

if you worked in food service youd see

[brave flare]

oh

[dreamy rose]

Communisim is where everyone gets an Android and Apple elitists don't exist

[polar fern]

@night heron in 2012 the US threw out 150 billion dollars worth of food. not counting plowed under crops, and not counting stuff only used for decoration

[manic torrent]

So the moral of the story is: if you buy gas, you're fucked so you might as well just do anything you want. Because moral relativism.

[night heron]

chain restaurants just throw away whatever isnt sold at the end of the day

[brave flare]

don’t do that

[night heron]

or let employees take their share and then throw away the rest

[wispy marsh]

I can assure you 99% of the food at the end of the day inside food places are not spoiled

[runic lagoon]

Thus mega manufacturing like giga farms.

[brave flare]

delete that before you start something

[night heron]

and a lot of them go out of their way to prevent homeless people from getting the food out of their dumpsters

[polar fern]

dunkin donuts used to bake their stuff fresh 2x a day, now they get the stuff delivered and toss all the old stuff - usually about 100-200 lbs worth

[full fossil]

i mean, as ive said im not trying to change anyones purchases because i really dont care. but you are still technically funding the war, so in turn makes you hypocritical lol.

just dont harass people when youre doing the same shit

or dont harass people at all

[void bough]

no no, do that

[night heron]

we have way more than enough food to not have world hunger but greed moment

[wispy marsh]

sounds like mcd

[night heron]

if nobody is paying for it theyd rather it get thrown away

[manic torrent]

yes, and as I said, your comparison is not only stupid, but unnecessary.

[runic lagoon]

Getting a donut right out off the machine. 🤘🏻

[dreamy rose]

best idea ever. why don't we tell Twitter?

[polar fern]

yep all the chains went from smaller suppliers/baked on premesis to bulk orders & tossing extra

[void bough]

and even more when you purchase this game, just wait for stable crack and play it for free lel

[runic lagoon]

They have them in super markets now.

[full fossil]

i dont care how stupid it is, its correct. these people will not listen to reason so its a fair comparison

[polar fern]

ew

[brave flare]

krispy kreme > DD

[full fossil]

"commit a crime guys its better than legally playing something"

[polar fern]

the concept of identically conforming food is insane too

[manic torrent]

yeah because we all know the fundamental arbiter of ethics is the law - also this is not a crime.

[runic lagoon]

I have like 10 fancy donut places near me. Including Japanese donuts.

[full fossil]

piracy is most definitely a crime in 90% of not third world places

[brave flare]

damn

[polar fern]

krispy kreme before dunkin donuts went central baking was crap .. just a bunch of sugar. blergh

[void bough]

''crime'' which is justified here

[manic torrent]

indeed it is, but where would I get a ship?

[night heron]

yeah i just simply do not care

[polar fern]

their crullers werent even real

[manic torrent]

playing a cracked game is not a crime.

[full fossil]

neither do i, but people are allowed to not want to commit a crime just to play a game they want to

[night heron]

infact i enjoy taking profit from large game studios

[brave flare]

I just get the classic glazed when they’re making them fresh

[manic torrent]

it's. not. a. crime.

[full fossil]

yes it literally is

maybe not in your funny little country, but in most places

[wraith root]

I mean what can you expect… people plan to eat enough fresh and alright food. no matter how much you plan your food for the next 2 weeks, you can’t plan your every move

[polar fern]

i think the key takaway is that ethics is not the same as ethics laws.

[brave flare]

I love using adblocker on LTT videos

[wispy marsh]

I just pay for YT premium

[manic torrent]

not according to @full fossil.

[dreamy rose]

Adblocker is the best

[wraith root]

You joking?

[runic lagoon]

They have some interesting topping like green tea, strawberries, hunny dew. And they make them to Oder. So freaking fluffy.

[full fossil]

bob youre infuriatingly stubborn to not even see my perspective.

[manic torrent]

I pay for floatplane, YT premiun, netflix, etc. I am basically the WORST.

[polar fern]

unethical/flawed ethics laws are common

[night heron]

i pay for floatplane and dont watch it

[void bough]

sadly in my country it is

[dreamy rose]

you tell em what you want by smell?

[night heron]

i just want a blue discord name

[polar fern]

bob just shotgunning the internet with his $$

[manic torrent]

I understand your perspective. It's deliberately wrong.

[brave flare]

bob is always right

[vital niche]

cake donuts are OP

[dreamy rose]

Bob isnt his name

[covert nova]

If I'm not mistaken, I think that downloading isn't the problem. It's uploading that's prosecutable in most places.

[dreamy rose]

cant trust him'

[void bough]

eeeeewwww YT premium

[manic torrent]

yeah obviously it varies, but as a rule, playing a cracked game is not a crime. It may be a crime to crack the game. It may be a crime to distribute it. but not to play.

[full fossil]

its not the most beautiful of examples, but im sure theres plenty more

[wraith root]

Oh god, I only pay for 5 twitch subs, adobe, YouTube, and Spotify

[manic torrent]

correct.

[brave flare]

Pirating is always wrong except if it’s EA

[runic lagoon]

Usually I just try what ever new flavors they have. But smells amazing.

[full fossil]

downloading game files and playing them without a license is a crime lol

[void bough]

distribute and even worse, selling it yeah

[runic lagoon]

I need to try those.

[manic torrent]

any example is still stupid, because the comparison is unhelpful.

[polar fern]

bbl

[brave flare]

very true

[vital niche]

they are OP for your waistline

be careful

[manic torrent]

is it? what crime am I commiting, exactly

[full fossil]

theft

[brave flare]

Where do you live

[dreamy rose]

watch that buckle snap

[manic torrent]

incorrect

[manic torrent]

Communist Australia

[wraith root]

It’s like stealing stuff from a store….

[full fossil]

its not, it helps the dumbasses see that theyre in the same boat

[dreamy rose]

what if its Delisted

[manic torrent]

no, it doesn't.

[vital niche]

thankfully I have the type of disordered eating called whatever I want at the current moment

[full fossil]

i believe there are some laws around freeware... im not sure

[full fossil]

and why doesnt it?

[manic torrent]

theft is if I steal a physical copy.

[dreamy rose]

yeah

[manic torrent]

fallacy of relative privation

[full fossil]

its not theft but its piracy, which is still a crime

[dreamy rose]

freeware has to be classified. delisted games are different

[full fossil]

i see, i got mixed up sorry

[dreamy rose]

its called the See-food Diet

[covert nova]

PSA: Being Scummy != Illegal.

[manic torrent]

the crime of piracy is theft on the high seas, if you're talking about DISTRIBUTING content, then maybe.

[full fossil]

@manic torrent allegedly, piracy of a game falls under the infringement of copyright laws, which is a crime.

[brave flare]

Isn’t it just distributing

[manic torrent]

yes, it is.

[covert nova]

Copyright laws protect distribution rights.

[full fossil]

possibly

bro is flexing not being able to purchase a game that developers spent countless hours and money to develop

[manic torrent]

finally someone gets it

[full fossil]

bob your ego is huge lol jesus

[manic torrent]

dude, I haven't pirated a game in decades.

[dreamy rose]

true, until word comes out your name isnt bob

[hollow pulsar]

Piracy is technically not the correct term. “Unauthorized copy” is probably the most correct term.

[dreamy rose]

Doubt

[manic torrent]

it isn't? What is a name? People have and do call me bob IRL.

[vital niche]

sometimes that one torrent that you accidentally seeded on... gets u a DMCA

[wispy marsh]

Bob the builder, can he fix it

[manic torrent]

... probably.

[full fossil]

i would say it still falls under piracy

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, you haven't watched that cartoon

[vital niche]

Sponsored by iFixiiiiitttt... and the MINNOW

[dreamy rose]

i have had it with Torrent software automatically seeding after its complete.

[covert nova]

Correct. Because seeding makes you a distributor.

[manic torrent]

you can say whatever you like, but we are talking about law, where what you say matters not at all

[manic torrent]

I have. I've been parenting for 20 years.

[wispy marsh]

You said your kid is 5

[dreamy rose]

i dont wanna give ppl my download i wanna use it

[manic torrent]

yes I did.

[vital niche]

but but I love mah private trackers, which is why they exist

[wispy marsh]

Ah, you were helping an AI realise the sense of self for the first fifteen

[manic torrent]

or I did foster care for 15 years on and off

[wispy marsh]

[covert nova]

I used to pirate way back in the day.

beyond the statute of limitations

[wispy marsh]

I can't do that. I don't fit in with children.

[manic torrent]

why doubt? why would I bother lying about that

[vital niche]

if they on TikTok I can see that

[covert nova]

Funny enough, I think Minecraft was the last game I pirated.

[wispy marsh]

Mine was pokemon or persona, to use on an emulator

[dreamy rose]

what platform?

[covert nova]

pff. PFFFFFFFFT. Platform.

[heady flicker]

minesweeper for me, which was yesterday

[manic torrent]

I am old. I have seen a lot. I have read a lot. I am an ass. I am all of these things - I am also typically right.

[vital niche]

SMB3.NES mushroom if u agree

[brave flare]

So true

[dreamy rose]

the last game i downloaded was Pappy Rap 2. i nearly finished it years ago

[manic torrent]

Of course I have an ego, but I try not to let it get out of control and judge each issue on its merits. I am of course a human and I get shit wrong all the time, because that's what humans do.

[wraith root]

Funny because Notch said it was okay to pirate the game until they have money to buy it

[snow thorn]

hello people i just joined

[dreamy rose]

which is where i stand on piracy. unless its Delisted

[dreamy rose]

are you from Fallout?

[snow thorn]

no?

[heady flicker]

it's not pirating, it's ~archiving~

[void bough]

I pirate, if game is good enough, I buy it

[vital niche]

✨PRIVATEERING✨

[hollow pulsar]

Unplanned distributed backup.

[covert nova]

Looking into it, I think I played Minecraft back in Beta 1.4. PC was the only system it was on then.

[dreamy rose]

i only pirate stuff for consoles. and anything on Pc i'll absolutely get legally later

[wispy marsh]

wat

[dreamy rose]

good thing GOG exists

[void bough]

why

like cheaper?

[dreamy rose]

DRMless classic games.

[void bough]

ah

[vital niche]

Can't DLC my Tetris BITCH!

[dreamy rose]

Steam has some but not all

[manic torrent]

it's much harder to steal online ordering

[vital niche]

also more ppl need to know about free HTML5 games that literally cannot be privatized unless it has a server

[covert nova]

I can't be bothered to pirate anything when my steam backlog is 950+ strong.

[vital niche]

too real

[dreamy rose]

my library is all played and only 60 games

[vital niche]

Remember when FarmVille was big?

[hollow pulsar]

Let it die

Lol.

[dreamy rose]

i have 22 games in my wishlist too. some cause i've got to get a legal copy of them.

[vital niche]

I'll stick with my PDA-game called Lemonade Stand

[dreamy rose]

just your basic Ace Attorney and Trackmania Turbo nothing too much

[hollow pulsar]

I mainly play Back4Blood

[vital niche]

BRO

Trackmania RULES

[dreamy rose]

Turbo is the best one.

[vital niche]

had SOOO SOOO much fun just whiteknuckling the bends

as fun as drifter racers

and im SO HYPE for TDU3

[dreamy rose]

havent even finished it yet its absolutely got me stuck in

[vital niche]

https://www.gtplanet.net/tdu-solar-crown-delayed-2023-20220518/

awwwww xbox versions canned

R.I.P. console users PS4 and XBox

[dreamy rose]

they're old enough anyway

[vital niche]

how much u wanna bet it;s a game engine problem

[void bough]

no way

[vital niche]

I LOVE TDU the announcement was very "we're gonna be true to the fans of TDU2"

[dreamy rose]

i want another Turbo style trackmania game

[vital niche]

modern raytracing

[void bough]

this game still gets a continuation

[vital niche]

hay can u get that with aftermarket raytracing apps @dreamy rose

[void bough]

ahh nostalgia

[wraith root]

Well tbh PS5 isn’t easily available as Xbox is still to this day

[vital niche]

https://tenor.com/view/test-drive-unlimited2-tess-wintory-tdu2-gif-20617303

[dreamy rose]

not sure if Turbo would work. i cant try either. i have no RT Hardware

[vital niche]

mfw silicon is mined by underserved labor markets

[dreamy rose]

good. PS5s shouldnt really be selling anyway.

[wraith root]

So most people either will have to wait a few more years or just buy a laptop or pc

[vital niche]

next story: Gamer sells his kidney to buy a PS5
Stock: Backordered

[dreamy rose]

an AMD laptop or PC. cause those iGPUs are heating up to be a real card killer

[vital niche]

Im sorry shared VRAM what happened again????

[dreamy rose]

RX 680M running GTA 5 at 1080P high/med at 60FPS:

[vital niche]

like

Video card NVIDIA GeForce MX150 for laptops is a new product series mx100. It is positioned as a graphics entry-level discrete GPUs – that is, laptops that ...
lite

[dreamy rose]

complete garbage that.

[vital niche]

the MX platform was popular for LoL or Rune players prolly

college goers

[dreamy rose]

its an iGPU with more consumption.

and heat

[vital niche]

hmm

[dreamy rose]

its better than what i have. but not good enough for a GPU

[vital niche]

probably more for solidworks Lite

or architecture ppl

[dreamy rose]

the school has them. i got to use it once and yeah its an iGPU.

[vital niche]

MX series? yeah those were the midrange 400-700 range at bestbuy

[dreamy rose]

they should kill them off for the 50 series.

[vital niche]

eWaaaaasteeee

[dreamy rose]

nobody wants that shit.

[vital niche]

oh shit the MX150 only has a 64 bit bus WTF

[dreamy rose]

i think Nvidia should prove themselves to be the most Greedy shits in the market. but i know that MX is just pulling us back

[vital niche]

that IS ewaste

AND 14nm whyyy

25w LOL

[dreamy rose]

they had the 350

[vital niche]

wait... Vega 10 iGPU is also 14nm what's going on?

[dreamy rose]

Vega needs to die

[vital niche]

derp Vega was 7 years ago

Im old

[slate dock]

There has to be a way of naming and organizing computer menus and files that is remotely navigable for people who aren’t “into” computers

[vital niche]

cue that LTT video showing the 10* series

[slate dock]

I’m so tired of every time I do literally anything asking for help, getting nothin, and when I do it tells me to press things that aren’t there

[vital niche]

oh I misread

[hollow pulsar]

Ignore them all and create your own.

[slate dock]

I can’t even do the simplest things

[vital niche]

computer menus, yeah like that one time MS decided Office needs a Ribbon

[slate dock]

It’s so frustrating, like I can’t do anything I’m just powerless

[manic torrent]

the reality is that you need to come 20%. The computer can come 80%.

[hollow pulsar]

For example: OneDrive at work keeps wanting to organize my files for me. The answer? Shift-delete anything it creates.

[vital niche]

with AI, there are whispers of an AI interface to a phone

[manic torrent]

expecting the computer to come 100% is unrealistic and not possible. You can pay someone to do the other 20% for you

[viscid pond]

My dad tried using my gaming pc for his schoolwork 💀

[dreamy rose]

they could just Debloat windows and get OneDrive out of there

[slate dock]

But I can’t do anything

[dreamy rose]

is your dad 15?

[vital niche]

wdym

[slate dock]

It’s so frustrating I feel like I’m senile

[manic torrent]

you can't learn anything?

[viscid pond]

40+

[hollow pulsar]

Work machine. It’s part of our “strategy”

[manic torrent]

I'm 42 this year.

[dreamy rose]

tf is he in school for?

[manic torrent]

I can "use a computer"

[slate dock]

What is there to learn when everything just seems random, there’s no logic to where things are placed

[viscid pond]

welp lets say that im in a asian household

[dreamy rose]

because you are a nerd

[hollow pulsar]

I don’t mind onedrive at work- as long as I’m completely managing it. It is my sacred zone. Nothing touches it but me.

[vital niche]

i get that

[void bough]

nice, you could be easily my dad

[manic torrent]

because you don't know or understand it, doesn't mean it's not logical

[slate dock]

I have to look up a solution to every single thing I need to do with my computer that isn’t within an app or basic settings

[manic torrent]

I mean don't get me wrong, some stuff is stupid and hard.

[slate dock]

And when I do they all include impossible steps that don’t exists on my computer for some reason

[vital niche]

yeah but then u get a sense of how stuff works

[manic torrent]

same for a lot of members here.

[vital niche]

ChatGPT is popular but taht's onlt bc of abstractions

[dreamy rose]

are you running Windows 7?

[slate dock]

I only get more confused. It’s been really hard for me

[finite cloud]

I can legally be your dad

[slate dock]

Windows 10

[dreamy rose]

you shouldn't be having problems with things not appearing.

[manic torrent]

I assume you haven't used computers prior to recently. You're trying to learn decades of computing in a very compressed timeframe

[slate dock]

I do constantly

[dreamy rose]

unless you fucked up your install really bad

[slate dock]

I know. So I don’t know what to do. I like computers conceptually but there is no obvious logic to anything here

[hollow pulsar]

The tutorials could have been written for an earlier version of win 10 as well.

[hollow pulsar]

What are you looking to do with computers?

[slate dock]

Regardless of the reason I don’t know

[vapid smelt]

make a AI army

[slate dock]

Just anything beyond browsing and downloading applications, anything within the file explorer I’m totally lost unless it’s something I just downloaded.

[void bough]

this

[dreamy rose]

The file Explorer? FR?

[slate dock]

Yes

[hollow pulsar]

Check out Youtube videos about Windows Filesystem Structure. That might help a bit.

[dreamy rose]

what are you trying to do scroll through the C Drive?

[slate dock]

This time it was to try and recover a minecraft world

[vital niche]

Oh, that requires some knowledge yes

like SSD or HDD

HDD: not fucked. SSD: fucked

[slate dock]

Ssd

[vital niche]

fucked

[dreamy rose]

C: Users<Username>\AppData\Roaming.minecraft

[vital niche]

@manic torrent there isn't a meme about spinning rust being bad, right?

[vapid smelt]

bro its just pixels let it go

[slate dock]

I already did this there’s nothing there about anything I can open

[hollow pulsar]

Also know what you are up against:
Windows has decades of nuances underneath what most people interact with. It’s why we have two program files directories, and “syswow” within the Windows directory (windows on windows).
For me, it helps to have a project for me to learn - like finding the Minecraft files.

[dreamy rose]

saves folder

[slate dock]

I don’t care it’s just the fact that I can’t do anything whether I want to or not.

[manic torrent]

probably

[vital niche]

Enable Windows File History and thank me later @slate dock

[hollow pulsar]

%userprofile% works too. 🙂

[slate dock]

I want to be into computers

[slate dock]

What does that even mean

[dreamy rose]

none of that fancy shit its to basics

[vital niche]

checkout Windows File Filter it's a cool API

https://www.osr.com/nt-insider/2019-issue1/the-state-of-windows-file-system-filtering-in-2019/

[dreamy rose]

go there and check the Saves folder. i see my worlds

[slate dock]

There’s no “app data” after hitting username

[dreamy rose]

thats the name of your user.

[slate dock]

I know, there’s no app data after clicking that

[void bough]

Alt+R and type ''%appdata%''

sorry lol

[dreamy rose]

oh yeah. forgot its hidden

[slate dock]

I get a sound and nothing happens

[void bough]

wait im stupid

[manic torrent]

windows+r, not alt

[void bough]

yes yes, im soo tired lol

[vital niche]

Meta key
NO not facebook meta

[dreamy rose]

go to the home tab and click properties.

[vital niche]

honestly zuck ruined the meta

[void bough]

Windows key + R and type %appdata% and press enter

[slate dock]

Okay i went into .Minecraft, there’s nothing there

[void bough]

well your world is gone

[vital niche]

that's the same tactic Windows Scammers ™️ get u to go into eventvwr.msc

[slate dock]

I literally have a world in the game I made today that still there

[vital niche]

SSD = no data recovery

[dreamy rose]

you cant see the Saves folder?

[slate dock]

There’s nothing

There is no saves folder

[dreamy rose]

send a Screenshot in #tech-chat-1

[vital niche]

I hope u saved ur seed for that special girl in ur life @slate dock

[slate dock]

Alright

[vital niche]

Be like "Honey, this minecraft seed was the start of a good journey"

[covert nova]

Somehow I never caught on to the fact that that works. Thank you.

[jaunty compass]

Trying out atomic heart
I'm getting forspoken vibes

Not in a good way

[void bough]

👽

not*

[hybrid shell]

moment

[pulsar violet]

I was like a kid in the candy store at Memory Express

[opaque needle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/118ozoz/real_linus_tech_tip/

Ai Linus haha

[brisk fable]

Hi there

[young drift]

what up

[gentle slate]

I need to get a job to feed my game addiction

My PC too old.

[young drift]

what gpu do you have

[dreamy rose]

you say. but do you Deliver?

[gentle slate]

Rx 580 8gb

[rugged rapids]

Me who uses Integrated Graphics 🗿

[dreamy rose]

lmao no. you still get Driver support

[gentle slate]

It'll never reach its true potential, since my cpu bottlenecks it insanely hard

[rugged rapids]

Used to use rather

[dreamy rose]

lemme guess you purchased a 3060?

[rugged rapids]

Exposed

Wait r u tracking me-

Or did u just see I mentioned

[dreamy rose]

typical upgrade path

[vapid smelt]

rtx 3060 is so weak

[ebon socket]

well, it does its job just fine for most people. tho if u really wanna play triple A titles on max settings u should got with atleast a 3070

[dreamy rose]

MX series enters the chat

[gentle slate]

Fr doe. My cpu of shit

[ebon socket]

what cpu u got?

[dreamy rose]

my CPU was made 11 years ago