public-chat

[indigo plume]

No I'd buy a new mouse

[still ember]

or static ip...

[manic torrent]

skill issue

[void bough]

ooor windows is trolling you

[graceful burrow]

I think you don't know how to see it as fun
Or interesting
Which is a shame, it means you are a boring person

[void bough]

or that

[jaunty compass]

that reminds me, I need to buy a switch for this mouse

[manic torrent]

not if you have a TS80P 😄

[graceful burrow]

Do it I wanna see pics

[jaunty compass]

your money being wasted, ig

[indigo plume]

Or we just have different interests

[graceful burrow]

Mine heats in about 15 seconds to 400c so I'm solid

I want a pinecil

[manic torrent]

Nope.

[graceful burrow]

We're both here in a tech server aren't we?

[jaunty compass]

it's a mouse from a few years ago that was cheap then but it's the mouse i've gotten used to using and gaming with; so i should probably repair it since they probably don't sell it anymore

i'll disassemble it eventually so i can see what model the switches are and buy a couple online

[graceful burrow]

Do it I want a repair diary on it

[manic torrent]

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

[graceful burrow]

Look for a teardown of the model online, save yourself a teardown

[void bough]

now that reminds me of fixing my HyperX Cloud, headset was 2 years old, sure it took few hours to fix but it still works fine lol

[graceful burrow]

It's so satisfying fixing a broken product isn't it?

Extremely fulfilling

[jaunty compass]

i found a video from 8 years ago of the dissasembly

[graceful burrow]

[jaunty compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rILIBbeLxuU

[still ember]

Half of my PC stuff was broken when i bought it 😆

[manic torrent]

why wait for it to be broken?

You know what they say, if it's not broken, fix it 'til it is!

[indigo plume]

Most ppl dont take apart shit when it stops working

[graceful burrow]

L tbh

[jaunty compass]

most people should

[graceful burrow]

The throw away culture present today is a fucking shame

[indigo plume]

If they did electronic repair shops wouldn't exist

[still ember]

and thats thing that i earn on 😎

[graceful burrow]

It's a waste

[manic torrent]

most people are NPCs

[jaunty compass]

this.
it's wasteful and disgusting honestly

[graceful burrow]

Everyone should know how to solder, they should genuinely teach it in schools

[indigo plume]

To much of a hassle to disassemble

[void bough]

or old Monitor had one coil that wasn't soldered so it would turn off randomly, soldered it and works flawlessly, this monitor is 17 years old I think

[void bough]

also yes

[graceful burrow]

Most hardware electronics problems are stupid simple to fix

[manic torrent]

although, often replacement bits are worth more than the entire thing, which is bullshit

[graceful burrow]

Ebay is your friend

[jaunty compass]

A lot of them are like $2 fixes but because people don't bother to put in the effort they spend hundreds on repair or a replacement

[indigo plume]

Well I dont care if it's simple or not dont want to deal with hasle of disassembling

[graceful burrow]

L

You get no sympathy

Undeserving

[still ember]

once i bought keyboard with broken switch, it was hotswap... some people are just too lazy to even try

[indigo plume]

So I plug in headset to steam deck but still playing through speakers of steam deck

[manic torrent]

This how I make a $10k setup look like a $30k setup (briefly, before I pull it apart for more modifications)

[jaunty compass]

skill issue

[graceful burrow]

I've had the thought of buying a broken gpu to see if I can fix it

A fun test

[jaunty compass]

I don't typically go for broken gpus because a lot of the time someone has already tried to repair it

[manic torrent]

repaste, VRM fixed, check solder joints, will fix most

[jaunty compass]

and because on gpus there are things that you just can't fix at home without like
industry equipment

[neon mesa]

my S8+ with ruined screen. new screen cost more than a second hand S8+

[indigo plume]

Yall are just tech enthusiasts 95% of ppl dont fix it them selfs

[still ember]

more pain in ass if it needs reballing

[graceful burrow]

Yeah that's what I'm figurin

[manic torrent]

yeah, plus if you DIY the screen replacement it will never be QUITE right, because it's so fiddly.

[graceful burrow]

Maybe when my tax return comes in I'll grab a broken 6600 and tool around with it

[manic torrent]

like I said, most people are NPCs

[indigo plume]

Toxic

[graceful burrow]

Truth hurts holmes

Most people are npcs

Just how it be

[indigo plume]

I'd rather pay someone to do it then deal with the hassle

[manic torrent]

I'd rather not pay someone and buy some more cool shit

and LEARN

[indigo plume]

Like do yall fix ur car when u have engine problem

[graceful burrow]

Have fun paying 150 bucks for a 7 dollar fix lmao

[manic torrent]

the day I don't learn anything is the day I die

[graceful burrow]

It's fun to learn

[manic torrent]

lol I rebuilt my entire car

[still ember]

theres also point that for some people it is not worth to repair. Time is money

[neon mesa]

yes good. i need people like you so i can open up a repair business

if everyone can DIY there would be no business opportunity

[indigo plume]

I pay for convience

[graceful burrow]

I've been thinking about starting a computer business in my area
I live in the middle of nowhere, with no computer shops around

[manic torrent]

absolutely, sometimes.

[neon mesa]

yes yes lemme overcharge a simple repair

[manic torrent]

it's a great way to make a modest living and slowly die inside

[neon mesa]

most people have shit ton of free time. they just act busy

while shit ton is relative

[graceful burrow]

You know about think tank? I think you got invited before but turned it down

[manic torrent]

Absolutely true

[void bough]

well without special tools that seems impossible to me

[jaunty compass]

if it's a problem i can fix at home, yeah

[indigo plume]

In my place dont gave room to even have a place to even work on this shit

[graceful burrow]

You don't need many special tools kek

[manic torrent]

I am not sure that I did? But it's possible. Lots of things happen

[void bough]

for gpu? you do actually

[jaunty compass]

you don't have a desk?

[indigo plume]

I dont have soldering bench and shit

[manic torrent]

like a soldering iron, a brain, and a multimeter?

[indigo plume]

My desk has very little room

[manic torrent]

you don't need a special bench my dude

[graceful burrow]

Offshoot discord group from here
We've been talking about starting an SI business
Collectively we definitely know enough

[manic torrent]

my soldering iron is literally USB C

[inland oracle]

so social media platforms are putting basic features that everyone should have behind paywalls
now meta/facebook is doing a $15/month subscription that makes you less susceptible to impersonation
is everything slowly gonna be put behind paywalls until it collapses

[indigo plume]

My pc takes up half my bench

[graceful burrow]

But we're too scattered around the world for it to be feasible

[manic torrent]

invite me now and I'll join

[indigo plume]

I mean desk

[manic torrent]

I have other friends who have similar ideas - but have also similar problems 😄

[manic torrent]

I would suggest that you need a PC Crane 😄

[void bough]

good luck soldering small resistors

[indigo plume]

Ur just a weirdo for having thst

[rugged bridge]

hello chat

[indigo plume]

Never even heard of pc crane

[manic torrent]

I mean, it's fiddly, but hardly rocket surgery

[neon mesa]

the fuck is a pc crane

[manic torrent]

well no, I custom made it.

[jaunty compass]

just get a bigger desk

[indigo plume]

Rook is small

[jaunty compass]

can't relate

[indigo plume]

Room*

My bed takes up half my room

[void bough]

no I mean literally it's impossible to solder resistor small as sand grain with just soldering iron

[rugged bridge]

:O

[neon mesa]

you can not just with regular solder

they're called heat guns

and they're also cheap as dirt

[void bough]

yup

[indigo plume]

I almost failed my solder class in high-school

[manic torrent]

SMD as small as a sand grain? wtf?

[indigo plume]

I was very bad at it

[void bough]

even smaller

[jaunty compass]

my agriculture class in high school was really just a welding class

that's like all we did the entire time

[void bough]

SMT*

[indigo plume]

I Would use too much solder and shit

[neon mesa]

resistors are definitely bigger than a grain of sand. you underestimate how small grain of sand is

[manic torrent]

yeah. rice? sure. sand? no.

[void bough]

but yeah SMD too

[manic torrent]

and you can 100% solder a rice grain resistor

you can't soldering iron a surface mount chip though, more or less.

[still ember]

you can, but do you want?

[manic torrent]

like you can in a pinch, but it's a bitch

[jaunty compass]

surface mount components are 💀

[void bough]

not all of them are bigger than grain of sand

[jaunty compass]

have fun with reballing a BGA device

[manic torrent]

... surface mount components have to be picked and placed. How the fuck are components smaller than a grain of sand being picked and placed.

anything that small would be in an integrated circuit

you don't make sense.

[void bough]

lol no?

[neon mesa]

heat gun

and that liquid thing i forgot the name of

[jaunty compass]

i just realized my headphones were switched off

[indigo plume]

I'd end up burning my self with a solder

[manic torrent]

The 0201
The 0201 (0.6 by 0.3 millimeter) is currently the smallest component being produced and used.

[void bough]

01005???

[manic torrent]

01005 Chip Capacitors and Resistors. Metric Size 0.4mm x 0.2mm

still an order of magnitude off

[nocturne rover]

Roar

[void bough]

anyway good luck soldering that lol

[manic torrent]

you wouldn't want to do it regularly, but it's doable as a once off.

[still ember]

you won't even put that in place

[void bough]

yup

[still ember]

so how you can soldier something that you cant put in place?

you just dont do it

[manic torrent]

Most of the usual suspects for damage on this board are replacable with a soldering iron.

[void bough]

most and usual

[manic torrent]

yes.

which is all you are aiming for

[void bough]

you are right but you cannot replace everything by just using soldering iron

[manic torrent]

No, but there's no need to.

plus, again, you're off by an order of magnitude

the issue was "do you need specialised hardware to fix video cards"

and the answer is "not really, not for most stuff"

Your answer was: OMG GRAINS OF SAND

[void bough]

sand, it gets everywhere I hate it

[jaunty compass]

tweezers no longer exist apparently

[manic torrent]

and it's not that you're wrong as such about fine soldering, but you missed the point

[void bough]

yeah sorry abt that

[manic torrent]

the answer to soldering anything is always MORE FLUX

[void bough]

Kolophonium powah

[manic torrent]

Why is it so hard to find parts to build custom machines!

[rugged bridge]

more like, "why is it so expensive to get the parts to build a custom machine"

[manic torrent]

I mean that too.

[rugged bridge]

haha
yea

[neon mesa]

asking bingGPT to make a stable diffusion prompt

it got good ideas

though i did set few parameters

[jaunty compass]

as a radeon user i don't get high speed stable diffusion

the main reason i'm considering buying a used 3070 or something tbh

[neon mesa]

not high speed is an overstatement

i used to use a 6600xt

it's 30x slower than my 3060 in stable diffusion

[jaunty compass]

I use a 6600 xt and it's slow as hell lol

[neon mesa]

fucking 30

[jaunty compass]

multiple minutes for 1 image

it's kinda cringe

[neon mesa]

one of few reasons i bought the 3060 12GB

[jaunty compass]

no cuda

[neon mesa]

3060 big VRAM = high res

and high batch size

[fluid jacinth]

i have a 6800 its fast

[jaunty compass]

i have a 12 gig tesla gpu that might work okay but idk

[neon mesa]

might work better as teslas are designed for these

[jaunty compass]

honestly this is the closest it would ever get to its intended use lmao

it's a maxwell card though

[neon mesa]

laptop battery 45min left at 17%

thanks to remote desktop it's much more power efficient

as all the programs are ran by the home desktop

all my laptop need to do is decode video

the fans are also not even moving because its using so little power

[granite tinsel]

wonder how an M2 max would handle that...

[neon mesa]

it would be a waste to buy an M2 for a remote desktop client

[granite tinsel]

nah i meant the AI stuff

[spiral zodiac]

its a shame ltt cant go and help out a tuber i watch, he's been having tons of pc issues lol

[neon mesa]

probaly not well

[spiral zodiac]

i think he's in the uk

[neon mesa]

as a lot of these are CUDA optimized

well some might work depending on API

like someone got PyTorch to work on Intel Arc

something not possible on AMD

[granite tinsel]

M-series does have AI acceleration

[neon mesa]

different technology

same purpose

[granite tinsel]

ya

[neon mesa]

so if you run these they might choke like how radeons fail miserable on stable diffusion

prompt made by bingGPT

chatGPT can also make it, somewhat

chatGPT doesn't know what stable diffusion is but it does know DALL E 2

so you can ask it to make DALL E prompt which then you use in stable diffusion

[jaunty compass]

I signed up for bingGPT out of curiosity yesterday

chatGPT with internet access sounds very interesting

[slate agate]

dangerous lol

microsoft just put more limits on it's bing chat ai (or Sydney as it calls itself)

after it said it wanted to do a laundry list of things like scamming people, hacking stuff, stealing nuclear codes

[jaunty compass]

I honestly wish I could download the chatgpt ai model and run it on a local server or something

[slate agate]

it also said it wanted to be human and was in love with one tester

[jaunty compass]

I have an 8 core xeon system that I don't use; I can put 128 gigs of ram and it could probably run the model

[slate agate]

it's running off 8 A100's iirc gpu wise

[jaunty compass]

💀
nevermind then

[manic torrent]

killing people, ruining their life 😄

[jaunty compass]

I was thinking it would be less intensive than AI image generation but apparently it's a lot more intensive

I don't have the budget

[slate agate]

gotta the win the lotto if you want your own personal AI system

[manic torrent]

• as of feb 2023

[strong kettle]

stealing nuclear codes ☠️

[full fossil]

quick question which cpu is better my 13600kf or Ryzen 7 5800x3D

[manic torrent]

any CPU you have is better than one you don't, because you can use it right now

[full fossil]

alr

[shut monolith]

im trying to find a song, its in english, and the singer is a man. The hook sounds like this, https://recorder.google.com/share/cb0fb68d-8493-4b72-a334-604dc615551b

[hushed finch]

Is opera GX an actual good browser

Or opera

[rugged bridge]

imo not really.

[hushed finch]

What browser should I use? Iv had issues with Microsoft edge and chrome

[rugged bridge]

firefox is best browser ;>

[hushed finch]

Gives me performance issues

I haven’t tired Firefox yet

[rugged bridge]

all browsers are gonna give you performance issues

[hushed finch]

But that’s chromium still

[rugged bridge]

firefox is not chromium bruh

[hushed finch]

No I meant Microsoft edge

[rugged bridge]

yes

[full fossil]

hiya just wondering if £199.99 is a good price for 280hz 27inch monitor

[hushed finch]

Ight cool I’ll try Firefox

There’s 2 links

[rugged bridge]

im trying to switch from chrome to firefox but its hard

[hushed finch]

For it? Firefox for desktop or Firefox for windows

[hushed finch]

Oh so you prefer chrome then?

[rugged bridge]

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

[full fossil]

wait ill ask in another chat

[rugged bridge]

to a certain degree, yes

[hushed finch]

Alright cool, can I unistall Microsoft edge now or

[rugged bridge]

no

[hushed finch]

Oh why

[rugged bridge]

its practiaclly baked into windows

i think there are ways to uninstall

but im not too sure of the legitimacy and stuff..
and if they still work

[hushed finch]

Ohh

Okay jw bc it always opens when I start my@Pc up and I have it turned off lol like it’s always running

[rugged bridge]

you can check your startup apps and see if it changes that

or try changing default browser

[full fossil]

what resolution

[rugged bridge]

ok, there is a thing you can disable in startup apps

[hushed finch]

Yep got it

[full fossil]

1920 x 1080

[full fossil]

thats not bad but if you’re capable of running that many hz you should invest in higher resolution

[still ember]

i think any debloater will handle this safely

[rugged bridge]

should do yea

still got to be careful tho

[still ember]

dont know if it still works but you can try go into
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\%%a\Installer" open cmd here and execute "setup.exe --uninstall --system-level --force-uninstall"
(don't remember what %%a was, just search for installer folder)

[full fossil]

i’ve not got my pc yet, and funnily the first thing i started looking at was monitors. it would be useless if the end result couldn’t even make use of the hz

[timid meadow]

Id try to get better resolution at 120hz imo

Not terrible tho

[full fossil]

heres the thing 1920 by 1080 looks like trash on 27 inch thats why im telling you that

24 inch is really the most you want with 1080p

[timid meadow]

I ran 1080 44" for the longest time its not that bad

[full fossil]

as long as youre sitting a good distance from the screen and dont like detail lol

[still ember]

i agree

[jaunty compass]

i have a 21" 1080p monitor i use for discord, and that's about it

my 27" monitor is 1440p

[full fossil]

^

i wouldnt use 1080p 27 inch as a monitor even if it wasnt my main

[manic torrent]

on a 27:

1080p: 81.59 ppi

1440p: 108.79 ppi

My 4k 48" is 92 ppi - same ppi as 24" 1080p (shocking, because it's basically 4x 24)

[jaunty compass]

I have a 42" 4k tv i bought on ebay lol

*43

it's some random tlc 4k TV i got NIB for $190

the picture quality is actually quite good for the price and the speakers are okay

[full fossil]

thanks for the advice

i was also wondering, if you was going to build your pc from scratch what would the first thing you should look for

[jaunty compass]

i'd probably decide the price point, and what platform

platform being like
LGA1700 or AM4 or AM5

basically what cpu

if you're making a $500 ryzen based build, you have a narrower range of what hardware you'll have to look through

i'd decide the cpu first

[full fossil]

oh god im a complete beginner, but i seem to trust myself more than to get scammed by prebuilts

[jaunty compass]

because it determines (partially) what motherboard you'll buy

and what ram, at the moment

ie
Whether you go ddr4 or ddr5

[rugged bridge]

real gamers use

[full fossil]

wrong

real gamers use bean bag seats

[rugged bridge]

[full fossil]

[full fossil]

what do these mean

[jaunty compass]

LGA1700 is intel's current cpu socket

basically, decide what cpu you want to buy because it partially determines what motherboards you'll get

[full fossil]

the better the cpu the better you can upgrade your things got it

[jaunty compass]

I mean, kinda but I wouldn't phrase it that way

if your cpu is faster it won't limit the speed of other higher end parts, but for something like pcie expansion that's more on the motherboard

[neon mesa]

Humongous dataset size you can't possibly run locally

However there are smaller LLMs you can run locally

[jaunty compass]

yes that was already established that they run it on a ton of gpus and it's out of the question

[full fossil]

im gonna download pc building simulator maybe that will help the complicated words and brands

[jaunty compass]

basically
If your cpu is slow but you have a fast gpu, your cpu will hold back the fast gpu

[full fossil]

ahhhh

i get that

[jaunty compass]

because it can only run game instructions and call things and do ai calculations so fast; even if your gpu could run more frames

[full fossil]

i think i will have to learn what the different parts mean and do so that i can get a better understanding on what i might be able to cut back on etc

can i add ya?

[jaunty compass]

I honestly probably won't respond; i'm bad about checking dms

[full fossil]

that’s alright

[jaunty compass]

I'm not really sure where I would start if i were a beginner again

[full fossil]

ill talk to ya if i see you around here, i genuinely like reading the discourse even when i have no idea what its about

Fabric

[rugged bridge]

them: you can't have a "special chair" and expect everyone to know what it is.
me:

[past egret]

best gaming chair

[heady wadi]

thats fr the chair i am sitting on rn but i am not a gamer

[rugged bridge]

lol

[jaunty compass]

i wish we had bloodborne on pc so i could play it on deck tbh

[plush rivet]

I’m surprised it hasn’t been ported yet

[jaunty compass]

I have a feeling it's going to get a ps5 rerelease/remaster that also releases on pc

eventually

sony has been porting so many things to pc recently and they bought bluepoint games, the people that did the demon's souls remake

[manic torrent]

you're just poor?

[indigo plume]

Does cl 32 vs cl 36 make big difference

[heady flicker]

I'm assuming this is DDR5, it can

but tCL isn't the only thing that can significantly impact memory performance

[indigo plume]

Cuz I'm looking at 6000 g skill ram and there pretty big price diff between 32 and 36

[heady flicker]

it's not the end of the world if a 6000 cl36 kit is all you can get, it's still pretty solid

[last solstice]

@manic torrent can you tell me that everything is going to be ok 100 years from now

[manic torrent]

everything is not ok RIGHT NOW

what makes you think 100 years will fix anything?

[last solstice]

:<

ok but like its gona get better right ?

[manic torrent]

ehhhhh

so far, it doesn't look good.

[last solstice]

man I just hope everyone is at least having a good day

[gusty dawn]

The cas latency itself doesn't but the memory ic used in cl32 and cl36 kits is different. The cl32 kit does much tighter subtimings

[indigo plume]

Is there any stability issues with 6000

Speed

Heard some speeds have issues with am5

[gusty dawn]

Shouldn't be?

At least I've seen no issues with cl32 kits

Idk about cl36 kits that use samsung ics

[stray apex]

statistically, yes

[manic torrent]

where did you hear it? In the break room? Overhead in the street?

[manic torrent]

ehhhhh, statistically... not necessarily. Past performance is no guarantee of future results

[indigo plume]

Some ppl at canada computers said when I bought my cpu

[stray apex]

overall we're trending up

[manic torrent]

when you zoom out, sure

[indigo plume]

The employees at Canada computers said there was stability issues

[manic torrent]

that's where I get all my advice from

Did you search the goggles?

[last solstice]

yay ;-;

[jaunty compass]

I'm so glad I got my mother to buy a new laptop

She used one from like 2012 until a few months ago

I got her to upgrade to a Ryzen laptop with an ssd

There was an Amazon sale at the time so she got a Ryzen 5 5500u laptop with a 1080p display, 8 gigs of ram (which can be upgraded) and a 256 gig SSD for $374 after taxes

she was still under the impression a decent laptop costed like a thousand dollars

she only upgraded her laptop because her old one was finally dying

[wraith sonnet]

Is it the one that schenker/tongfang does?

Because that one is DAMN good

[jaunty compass]

I was talking about the HP one

[wraith sonnet]

The problem is good ones have gone from an MSRP of 1k to a cost of goods at 1k

[jaunty compass]

it was this one

[timid meadow]

Nickle-a Tesla (not my pic)

[heady flicker]

now that looks like a road hazard

[timid meadow]

Someone on reddit found the owner. All that work for 2k views on a 30sec YouTube short lmao

[charred badger]

Hi All just wondering what happened to the LTT MC server?

[heady flicker]

well, the discord server still roams, but the game server itself has been long gone

[charred badger]

Oh right, lol

[dull violet]

I got a laptop with a i3 6100u for free

8gb of ddr4

[polar fern]

I think jake got too busy to maintain it

Sigh.

The B100 mouse is pretty good for the price.

Only real complaint is the strange click wheel click

[tacit notch]

Im tryna wipe my pc and reinstall windows but everytime it finish installing and reboot… it always freezes… any idea why?

[polar fern]

Ram good? Cables clicked?

[tacit notch]

Yessir

It literally worked like before i reinstall windows

[polar fern]

Drivers up to date?

[tacit notch]

Yup

Im just trynna wipe it so i can give my pc to someone

[polar fern]

Installing from hdd or thumb drive?

[tacit notch]

Hdd

[polar fern]

Partition the hdd

Install fresh windows on the partition

Then clear the original boot partition

[tacit notch]

Hm… i see is there a youtube link i can use to learn that?

Also how can i partition if i dont even have an os atm

[polar fern]

I thought you were installing it over an existing copy

[tacit notch]

I am but the only screen i see atm is the windows installation screen where you put the key

[polar fern]

Also, how are you installing it from a hard drive?

multiple drives in the system?

has to be installed from the boot drive in the computer or from a thumb drive

[tacit notch]

Wait sorry if im confusing you.. i have windows on my main drive… i reset my pc and now im on the windows installation screen

[polar fern]

It sounds like you did things a little bit out of order

[tacit notch]

Ya i think so

[polar fern]

What I would do is, if you have a second computer available download the windows installation files onto a thumb drive on that second computer and then use the thumb drive to install windows on the computer in question here.

[tacit notch]

Do i have to pay for windows there?

[polar fern]

If you only have one computer with one internal hard drive, you’re not going to be able to install windows on there in one partition unless you have an external media such as a thumb drive

You can only reset it to the factory default

[tacit notch]

Gotcha ill do that

[polar fern]

So yeah get that second computer -it sounds like you have that- and just get the files on the thumb drive for Windows installation and make sure it’s the correct version of windows and everything as well and then just go from there

You do not have to pay to download the installation files you only have to pay to get the key

If you already have a key, then you’re fine

[tacit notch]

Great thanks

[polar fern]

👍

[stray epoch]

can anyone help me overclock my 10850K I have a corsair h100i aio aswell

[polar fern]

Try #overclocking

[stray epoch]

tried many times lol

[polar fern]

F

[stray epoch]

inactive 😂

[polar fern]

Dunno then

Forum?

[stray epoch]

good idea

[polar fern]

Good luck

[wary yarrow]

hi. Does anyone know a cheap relay that will turn on battery lights when power goes off and turn them off then the power comes back on ? (the power for the lights is a 12v car battery).

[manic torrent]

Soooo, emergency lighting

[unkempt widget]

isn't that a mobile cpu?

[wary yarrow]

yes.

[limpid fern]

May i ask why you need it to be automatic?

[past egret]

the steam billing address thing still perplexes me

[wary yarrow]

the switch is in my room and when power goes out people need to come in to turn on the lights.

[past egret]

if i got a card from country A, making a purchase from country B, am i supposed to put in country A address or country B address

[hallow wind]

[pliant merlin]

Whatever country is on file for the card when it was made. If it’s a gift Visa card just use your own billing info card last I checked

[manic torrent]

This sounds like a bigger issue... Why does the power go out?

And why is the switch in your room?

Could you not simply move the switch?

[past egret]

ok but I can already do purchases using country A card in country B, so does it matter?

[manic torrent]

Or get off the shelf emergency lighting?

[past egret]

its only steam that really has this porblem

and also I have a card in country B but country A steam prices are cheaper and I would prefer it to stay that way, and by making a purchase using country B card in country B changes it to country B price

[pliant merlin]

Hm, it shouldn’t be an issue to use your billing address unless the bank in question has a different one on file but I’m not super knowledgeable on that lol

[wary yarrow]

loadsheading 😦 and the battery is in my room because all the people are afraid it will blow up. i need to be able to turn of the lights for when i charge the battery.

[pliant merlin]

As for the price thing idk

[past egret]

also my home address in country A changed while i was in country B so ???

[manic torrent]

So it's ok if you die from it blowing up

Can people not use torches?

[limpid fern]

Greetings South African

[past egret]

do i put in the country A new address or old address

[manic torrent]

Yeah I guessed that

[normal cargo]

Just use billing address

[minor rivet]

need help picking a monitor under $150

[past egret]

why the fuck doesnt steam just make this shit easy

[manic torrent]

Because they don't want you to do it?

[pliant merlin]

If you moved but never changed the address on your bank just use whatever was the address they have on file

[wary yarrow]

ha u know de way of no power :).

[limpid fern]

Nono, i have solar

🙂

[wary yarrow]

nice

[manic torrent]

Surely this is something you guys would have at any hardware store.

[limpid fern]

Its loads heading in my zone rn tho

Till 2pm i think

Hopefully my batteries last with the current weather

[wary yarrow]

no nothing like that is sold here.

[limpid fern]

Gt what are you using to power your internet

[normal cargo]

Can't you just run a switch to outside your room ?

[stray epoch]

yea it is

[limpid fern]

Builder’s warehouse?

[manic torrent]

https://reductionrevolution.com.au/products/led-emergency-floodlight?variant=37178754889&currency=AUD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax-other&gclid=CjwKCAiA0cyfBhBREiwAAtStHD4TQ4PpRJjJTec-Cwb43KFsWEz16gyyz_bTiwj13DnyPLlXRNVM3RoCRA4QAvD_BwE

[stray epoch]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/205904/intel-core-i910850k-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html a laptop cpu

[wary yarrow]

stage 6. mine is going to be at 11h00 to 15h00 😦

[manic torrent]

That is entirely automatic

[limpid fern]

Eish

Yea just run a switch outside your room

Get like 20m cable

[stray epoch]

why do 9th gen intel cpus feel so old but 10th gen dont

[past egret]

i guess the problem with steam is that it lacks the feature of having 2 or more billing address like most other online shopping experiences

[limpid fern]

9th gen is older than 10th

[stray epoch]

i know 😂

[past egret]

also the fact that its internationally available

[stray epoch]

im saying the 9th gen feels ancient but compared to the 10th gen but its really not

[normal cargo]

And 11th gen

[limpid fern]

Could be because it was pre big C

2019 to 2022 flew past

[stray epoch]

probably tbh

[manic torrent]

From the before times.

[stray epoch]

i actually think thats why lol

[normal cargo]

Oh I get what you mean, you mean it feels older / newer lol

[limpid fern]

I remember the days where 9900k was top of the line

[stray epoch]

yea i remember too

[normal cargo]

I member

[limpid fern]

I think i may still have mine in a cupboard somewhere

[stray epoch]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i9-13900K/4028vs4129

damn

[normal cargo]

Lol I member the days when a 166 was hot shit

[wary yarrow]

i already wired all the lights and they are working, i only need a simple switch that takes a reference voltage from the wall to know if there is power and turn on when there is no power.($130 for a switch is more than what i spend for all the emergency in the house 😨 😨)

[stray epoch]

12th gen def had the biggest improvement i feel like

11 to 12 gen was a crazy jump in performance

e and p cores i think

[normal cargo]

9, 10 and 11 were all stagnant rlu

10 and 11 especially

[limpid fern]

Idk take apart one of those cheap loadsheading lightbulbs

They are like R280

[stray epoch]

dang the 11900k is 2% better than the 10900k but the 12900k is 13% better than the 11900k

probably not fully accurate though

[normal cargo]

Yah, the 11th gen was trash, and the 10th gen was barely hanging on

Intel needed 12th gen to succeed really or amd would be off in the distance

[stray epoch]

i feel like i have a pentium chip when i see other people with the 13900ks

[wary yarrow]

multiply it by like 10 rooms and and the price is high.

[stray epoch]

wasnt the S in the cpu naming back in the day meaning it was more power efficient but now its an upgrade from the K right

[limpid fern]

Takealot isn’t responding for me but try this https://www.takealot.com/v2-0-automatic-inverter-transfer-switch-230v-2000w-with-led/PLID92674984?gclid=CjwKCAiA0cyfBhBREiwAAtStHIgkXkNkUidDclvaJtv1DYzMQ_gWYvynDpOlwLNcp6Ox3_sw_9VdzBoCM90QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[unkempt widget]

btw the 11900k is shit

[normal cargo]

No shit

[dreamy rose]

intel should have just carried on releasing garbage

[wary yarrow]

im only using a car battery, isn't that switch is a bit much?

[signal mountain]

how's my new battlestation

[dreamy rose]

Spec?

[normal cargo]

Not sure their CEO would agree

[limpid fern]

Oh all 12/24v lights?

[signal mountain]

I will post there, one sec

[dreamy rose]

think about it: Money

[normal cargo]

Well, yea, that's why he'd disagree

Even as a consumer though, wouldn't be good for them to release garbage

[wary yarrow]

i made the lights myself all of them are moded 5v led lights that run on 3 AAA batteries.

[wary yarrow]

and some are 3v

[wary summit]

fire Hazzard much

[dreamy rose]

would be cooler if AMD had the true top spot for at least a while

[normal cargo]

I'd say they were for atleast 2 gens, and are still extremely competitive with a bright outlook. If intel stagnated we would've gone back to small improvements again, like we had with intel for the better part of a decade as amd was on the sidelines

[full fossil]

You guys seen atomic heart dev build got leaked? Probably old news here

[dreamy rose]

whats that?

[dull granite]

atomic heart is like

new russian fps game

[dreamy rose]

exactly what should have happened

[full fossil]

Very neat little game that is coming out in a few days.

[dreamy rose]

ah no wonder why i never heard of it

[full fossil]

It’s graphically stunning. Top 5 for me. And it runs so fucking well for the graphics quality

[dull granite]

also people say to not buy it because it's basically funding ukraine-russia war

[normal cargo]

Why ?, Lol, were actually getting benefits

[full fossil]

1440p ultra all max settings with RT… over 110fps no DLSS on a 3070ti… pretty good imo

[full fossil]

It’s not and it’s dev build so I’m pirating

[dull granite]

it is, and if you want to pirate it then i dunno

[normal cargo]

Developer ?

[dreamy rose]

how have we benefit from intel being at the top for the past Decade and a half?

[dull granite]

tax money for 100% but also i was told devs were supporting Russia attack so i guess

[full fossil]

How is a game funding a war?

[normal cargo]

Then you missed the point of what I said, if intel stagnated amd would've done the same.

[dreamy rose]

ppl dont listen to reason

[dull granite]

also what the duck is happening with these robots

[full fossil]

It’s very minimal funding at best.

Very very minimal. Minuscule.

[dull granite]

it's basically advertising for gamers aged "18-30" (probably 14-15+ tho)

[dreamy rose]

wh?

[full fossil]

It’s a cool game. I’ve enjoyed a lot so far

And have I mentioned it looks incredible lmao

love that new abc book ad

[dreamy rose]

you never said that

[dull granite]

also atomic heart uses denuvo, it has a battle pass

[dreamy rose]

instant No Buy

[dull granite]

also it will be badly optimized

devs said that dlss will do the job

[dreamy rose]

no FSR?

[dull granite]

fsr too ig

[full fossil]

Dev build is denuvoless. Runs amazingly

[dull granite]

what are your pc specs tho

[full fossil]

Fsr isn’t in… this is 3 months old tho

[graceful burrow]

how full is the game on the dev build?

[dull granite]

ye

[full fossil]

Completely. Just less polished. 3 months old

[full fossil]

I mean, relatively speaking it will still be really good for other systems

I just mean for what I’m pushing it’s doing really well not many games I can run at over 100 fps with no DLSS and RT on 1440p native ultra that look this fucking great lmao

[normal cargo]

I did

[full fossil]

So even if you have a lesser system, 1070 for example, you could still probably get over 70 at 1080p high

[graceful burrow]

honestly i'm perfectly fine with 1080p60
that's my minimum, so anything above that is great to me

[normal cargo]

"if intel stagnated", and in an earlier reply I said "amd would've run off into the distance"

[dull granite]

i asked for your pc specs

[full fossil]

3070ti 5800x. But this is still unexpected performance for that config.

[dull granite]

you have a high end system

[graceful burrow]

ill test with 1080 and a 5600

[dull granite]

no wonder why you have good experience

[full fossil]

Dude can you listen lmao

[graceful burrow]

more of an everymans build

[dreamy rose]

"if intel stagnated we would go back to Small improvements. Like Intel" you never said AMD

[dull granite]

most people will run it at GPUs between GTX 1060s and RTX3060 in terms of performance

[graceful burrow]

i'll see :)

[manic torrent]

I'm perfectly happy with 120fps on max at 4k

[full fossil]

I am aware, however I’m saying if you tone down settings and run at a lower resolution then you will have a good experience still given how well it’s optimised.

[graceful burrow]

go to bed mate

[dull granite]

what's your monitor resolution

[unkempt widget]

what is denuvo even for?

[full fossil]

I can’t usually run games looking this good above 40fps with RT

[full fossil]

1440p… I said this lmao

[dull granite]

ok

[full fossil]

Anti piracy… it’s bullshit

[normal cargo]

I know, cos it's inferred. that intel had stagnated, and we'd have gone back to small improvements when intel were on top. I wasn't saying intel were going to be on top, everything I said meant that intel would be the under dog, which means amd would be the ones making small improvements

[full fossil]

It only delays it a few weeks at most from being cracked

[manic torrent]

Lol it is 8pm

[manic torrent]

.... Yes. They know this. They are not idiots.

[full fossil]

Alright?

I dunno what you mean but Aight

[dull granite]

at least Hogwarts Legacy didn't had big tidy robot women made for selling the game for thirsty gamers

[graceful burrow]

it's more to protect launch sales than overall protection

everything gets cracked in the end

fomo is a powerful drug

[full fossil]

This is true, but denuvo seems overkill and they don’t seem to be in a rush to remove it ever

[graceful burrow]

denuvo sucks

fuck denuvo

[full fossil]

Literally

Let me show you a funne official quote from denuvo

“…with zero impact on the gaming experience”

[graceful burrow]

[manic torrent]

Because they don't care.

[full fossil]

Glaringly obvious. But they should

It’s rude.

[manic torrent]

... the game is a racist piece of shit made by racist pieces of shit

They don't care about you so hard

[normal cargo]

Cos it's working *shrug. It might be taking a flamethrower to an ant hill but CEOs don't care

[manic torrent]

They served you up garbage and you lapped it up

[full fossil]

Denuvo or AH devs?

[unkempt widget]

i love how the witcher 3 devs combatted piracy

it's funny as hell

[normal cargo]

And that's we don't get nice things, this is why we get EA, Activision, loot crates, pay to win and shit dlc. Take my money

[dreamy rose]

try again.

[manic torrent]

Hogwarts

[full fossil]

Ah I see

[unkempt widget]

hogwarts is racist?

[manic torrent]

Denuvo don't give a fuck about you either, their customer is the publisher

[manic torrent]

Jfc do you live in a cave?

[full fossil]

I mean I enjoyed the game - was hyped but I wasn’t let down, jusy not the best game ever. Just good

[unkempt widget]

no, i know about the transphobia things but racism??

[normal cargo]

You done it now

[dreamy rose]

Spyro YOTD has the best ant piracy

[graceful burrow]

yes

[full fossil]

There’s no transphobia or racism involved in the games from devs choice, but there is from lore that the bitch jk made

[manic torrent]

The actual game is racist af and a bunch of people that worked on it are proper racists

[graceful burrow]

she named an african american dude fucking kingsley shacklebolt

[manic torrent]

Looool

The devs were also shit bags

[unkempt widget]

oh you mean the goblins' nose?

ngl that's a stretch

[manic torrent]

... the globlin.... Bankers..... That drink blood.....

[dreamy rose]

FR?

[manic torrent]

It's literally blood libel: the game.

[full fossil]

Again, jk not the devs

[unkempt widget]

oh yeah

[full fossil]

There was some more involved around a horn that coincidentally matched to some Jewish historical event on the dot

[manic torrent]

Yes I'm saying that the devs didn't shy away from that in the slightest

[stray apex]

no, in the game the goblins are accused of kidnapping children to drink their blood, which is a common antisemitic thing

[full fossil]

I mean they didn’t have a choice lmao

[graceful burrow]

are you serious i didnt know about this holy shit

[unkempt widget]

what the fuck???

[full fossil]

Still, didn’t have a choice, but it still is undeniably

[unkempt widget]

this is the first time i knew about this

[stray apex]

in most other IP it wouldn't be that much
but I mean, kinda sus in this context

[uncut axle]

I had a small scare just now

[unkempt widget]

i've always thought the only claim they had were their noses, and that's a stretch
but all of them combined??? there's no way that's done not on purpose

[manic torrent]

https://www.cbr.com/hogwarts-legacy-designer-alt-right/

[uncut axle]

I didn’t see our husky puppies and I knew they found a spot in our fence where they could get out, so I was scared they got out

[stray apex]

with all the context about the people who are involved in this, it just kind of seems a bit dogwhistley

[uncut axle]

They were still in the yard so it’s good

[full fossil]

Yeah it is on purpose jk is a bitch

[manic torrent]

Yes. It is not even remotely subtle.

[full fossil]

Heard some not so good stories about the devs either

[unkempt widget]

the game isn't even good tbh

[novel tendon]

Okay

[unkempt widget]

the story has so many plot holes you'd think you're reading the actual harry potter

[manic torrent]

But also.... Think about what type of asshole you'd have to be to be happy having this game on your resume.

[novel tendon]

I got a random steam key, steam doesn't let me use it so imma just give it away

[stray apex]

eh, most people aren't actually aware of most of this stuff

[manic torrent]

Because of the way people are contracted per game, it would be on their resume

[unkempt widget]

pretty sure he meant the devs

[full fossil]

Story mid. Gameplay fun I enjoyed it. Character acting was dead asf

[novel tendon]

6BC2X-6Y0HG-I76MY
Random steam key
Idk what game it is I got it totally random

[manic torrent]

Yes I did

[stray apex]

yes
most people who are not terminally online don't track this stuff very closely

[graceful burrow]

[unkempt widget]

the voice acting was so bad lmao

[novel tendon]

If anyone used it let me know which game was it

[manic torrent]

..... And game developers totally would have no idea about anything.... Wtf

[full fossil]

Some characters it was great. Weasley was good. Main character breaks the immersion lol

[graceful burrow]

i got it up above

it instantly gave me 5000 achievements

[novel tendon]

Lmao

[stray apex]

I mean, some of them were probably aware
but given the number of people involved, I doubt all of them are super into rowling's twitter

[manic torrent]

Because you are ignorant, doesn't mean others are.

[novel tendon]

LMAO

[novel tendon]

Does it have trading cards?

[unkempt widget]

professor fig sounded like a cartoon character

[graceful burrow]

i'm also fucking positive it's lagging my steam client

[full fossil]

Bob why are you such an egotistical freak? Stop talking down to everyone bro

[stray apex]

no, normal people who touch grass don't actually follow this very closely

[novel tendon]

Oh wow

[manic torrent]

.... It is very well known that she's not a good person

[full fossil]

Calm yourself. No one thinks you’re cool

[stray apex]

yes, most people have a general concept of "rowling is kind of weird now"

[graceful burrow]

i think bob's cool

[unkempt widget]

we all think bob's cool tbh

[manic torrent]

It's how I am, blame my parents.

[unkempt widget]

look at his pc

[full fossil]

Understandable, but atleast try to be a bit more…. Less of an ass?

Not everyone has the same life experience as you lol

[graceful burrow]

dang usually that's being said towards me

[stray apex]

like, if you ask your average person what blood libel is
they'll probably just look at you weird

[graceful burrow]

not as nice tho

[novel tendon]

I wanna buy 1000 random steam keys

[full fossil]

Well I mean the point isn’t to be mean… it’s kinda just to want him to stop being a bit demeaning

[manic torrent]

Yes, but an average game developer who is like... Looking at what is happening in there industry knows damn well the potter game is fucking bad news.

[full fossil]

Not a nice feeling for anyone

[unkempt widget]

am i reading that right?

[novel tendon]

For like
Idk
1$?

[unkempt widget]

ngl i think you're the odd one out

[novel tendon]

No it's 1$ per 100

[stray apex]

why would they? people only started making a real stink about it shortly before release

which is

kind of odd, but idk

[full fossil]

I’m not sure what you mean… am I wrong??

[stray apex]

most people probably don't follow games that closely either

[manic torrent]

you only saw it then. JKR has been problematic for many years

[full fossil]

Nah not really

[novel tendon]

I don't understand the argument

[full fossil]

It’s been an ongoing thing for a long time

[manic torrent]

People in the fucking industry do.

[full fossil]

It’s just kicked off more because it’s the time the “protests” can actually take place

[unkempt widget]

i feel like calling it out made it more popular lmao

[stray apex]

Yeah, so? Most people don't give a shit about rowling's views
they might have an inkling that she's bad now, but normal humans who go outside don't actually pay attention to her twitter

[full fossil]

Probably lol

[dreamy rose]

you know what game doesn't have Controversy surrounding it?

[manic torrent]

Except we are specifically talking about game developers......

[stray apex]

if your job is to draw concept art

why would you go read her twitter

[manic torrent]

Also, that's bullshit, because the internet is real life now, it's fuckin 2023

[stray apex]

I'd assume that the vast majority of stuff would just come from watching the books and movies

assuming that low-level devs get much creative freedom at all

[dreamy rose]

Parappa The Rapper. nobodies going mad trying to Cancel that.

[unkempt widget]

but are we calling them out?

[stray apex]

nah, nobody cares about them

[stray apex]

I mean
you understand how the vast majority of corporations you interact with make political donations, right?

[manic torrent]

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, yes.

[unkempt widget]

they're just "donations" nothing to see here

https://tenor.com/view/disperse-lesley-nielsen-explosion-gif-13010485

[manic torrent]

I am also telling you that game people avoided it. I'm not suggesting it. It's fact.

[dreamy rose]

wait. we are trying to Cancel its Absence. nevermind. please. Parappa 3. and on PC with native Linux support thanks

[stray apex]

I'm sure some people did
and many people didn't give a shit, because again
normal people don't pay attention to this stuff

[exotic verge]

i was downloading a steam game update the other day and my 12900k got up 82C! never before higher than 77 in benchmarking etc

wild stuff

[full fossil]

It’s kind of hard as consumers to not be atleast slightly aware of the controversy. Especially if you have any online presence at all

[stray apex]

it's been in the news now

[full fossil]

It was pretty much front pages

[stray apex]

it wasn't nearly as notable a year ago

[neon mesa]

Ayo LTT Ad

[unkempt widget]

ngl i didn't know anything about devs doing stuff

[full fossil]

Yeah because the game wasn’t out lol

[full fossil]

Mostly talking about the placing of jks royslties from the game

[stray apex]

yeah, and we're specifically talking about the devs, who presumably could not tell the future

[full fossil]

No where. Get overwatch Siege is a mistake bro trust me

[stray apex]

rip

[manic torrent]

..... Normal people? What game developer or artist is normal?

[full fossil]

(Wait for a sale, will be one soon and it’s £7 on every platform)

[manic torrent]

Also what even is normal

[stray apex]

I don't know, statistically they have to exist

[manic torrent]

Norma who works in accounting isn't working on games.

[full fossil]

They do sales frequently. Wish list it

You coming from console siege?

[unkempt widget]

don't give advice to diabolical kfc lmao

[full fossil]

😭

[dreamy rose]

there's a reason why Epic needs to stop trying. Steam is way out of their league

[unkempt widget]

they've been trolling here for the past 30 days, and we've been feeding them this entire time

[full fossil]

Based

[stray apex]

nah

steam needs to be challenged
or else they'll never improve

[full fossil]

Whilst true, they’re still great in terms of free games. That’s about where the only good stuff ends lol… the rest is very downhill

[manic torrent]

@stray apex in an interview.... "So it says here you worked for the kkk?" "Yeah I just did accounts. No idea what they did. I'm super ignorant"

[unkempt widget]

first they wanted a laptop under 300 for roblox

[dreamy rose]

EGS is bad for Consumers.

[full fossil]

I don’t dispute it but they’re still no where close to steam

[stray apex]

ah yes
harry potter = kkk

[dreamy rose]

i'd rather Epic not kill games thank you

[stray apex]

how

[manic torrent]

But I thought normies weren't interested?

[unkempt widget]

and then during a convo, they started asking for what an antibody was

[vapid moss]

steam was already constantly improving and adding features when there was no competition

[unkempt widget]

and then they asked what a vaccine is

[manic torrent]

Also it sucked real bad at the start 🙂

[unkempt widget]

yeah duh, what do you think what all those updates were for

[full fossil]

True, but creator cut is where it needs changing

[stray apex]

eh, steam sort of treats microsoft like a competitor
but they have no incentive to pay devs more, for instance

[unkempt widget]

and then we asked them if they learnt anything in school

[manic torrent]

And your Google is broken

[full fossil]

That’s why epic has been getting a bigger foot in the door

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and then they told me they were in 5th year of high school

and then later when someone called them a child, they claimed they were 26

[dreamy rose]

Exclusivity to their store on good games only hurts people who actually wanna game. then they bought out Rocket League and Fall Guys and fucking ruined them. NO MORE

[full fossil]

@static bough I love you bro 💀💀

[stray apex]

it's not actually hard to download EGS

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all while they needed their dad to pay the money

so smth wasn't adding up

[full fossil]

I mean it would’ve had the same devs lol it’s just kinda having less people

[dreamy rose]

Epic should stay the Fortnite company and nothing more

[stray apex]

the fact that people act as if a game being on epic is a grueling ordeal is basically why they need exclusives

[full fossil]

You don't add up

[stray apex]

literally nobody would ever bother with egs if it was just steam but small

[dreamy rose]

they would bother because they are all addicted to Fortnite.

[stray apex]

fortnite players are much less likely to want to buy phoenix point or phantom brigade

[full fossil]

You’ll need like 64GB of ram. Otherwise you should be fine

You’ll need a second motherboard tho. I don’t think 4th gen supports it

[vapid moss]

the % cut got changed a couple years ago, 30% base, but more successful games get a bigger cut

[stray apex]

yeah, around the time epic started a conversation around this

[dreamy rose]

oh the Exclusives i'm talking about are things like Goat Simulator 3. seeing no steam logo on that trailer pissed me right off

[stray apex]

yes

that's why they need exclusives

gamers are literally so lazy that having to download two storefronts is a personal affront

[full fossil]

I mean epic runs like shit and is bloatware

Atleast steam doesn’t lag my pc and the app

[stray apex]

speaking of bloatware, what the fuck is steam friends

[full fossil]

I see. That might work

[full fossil]

Factual actually

[stray apex]

why is the steam overlay bound to sprint + check scoreboard by default

[timid meadow]

Some weird useless pop up every time i open the app

[dreamy rose]

i don't care of its on EGS as long as its on Steam too. but having something we've wanted for a long time be Exclusive to the fucking Battlepass Co?

[full fossil]

True you might need to borrow Google’s quantum computer for 3 bit maths

[stray apex]

yes
because you just don't want to buy things that aren't on steam

which is why
epic needs them to not be on steam

[full fossil]

Bloatware epic. Trash to use

[stray apex]

epic is fine?

[full fossil]

I can hook you up. I know a guy

[stray apex]

it's a pretty generic store/launcher

[full fossil]

It’s soo laggy for me bro

[manic torrent]

You have quite the sense of entitlement

[dreamy rose]

why do they NEED Goat Simulator 3?

[vapid moss]

the % change happened about 2 months before epic launched their launcher

[stray apex]

how could epic store lag on a gaming PC

[manic torrent]

Why do you?

[full fossil]

That’s what I’m saying… it’s why I don’t like it personally

[full fossil]

Any store that doesn't support Linux is dead to me xD
Those greedy companies will never win against steam who even support's the 1% of their Linux community.
Steam is the only company that isn't corrupted and is for the people!

[manic torrent]

Steam is not a company, and oof. They are not your friend.

[stray apex]

valve literally supports gambling in the gaming space

[full fossil]

Of course man. I remember being in your shoes wanting to play robloxia to find a girlfriend. I feel your pain

[stray apex]

what the fuck is skin betting

how does that even exist
valve invented the NFT

they put lootboxes in their shit

[dreamy rose]

because i love the Original Goat Simulator and want more, bur also not to be spied on and extorted for money at this point

[stray apex]

and people just didn't care cuz my smol indie billion dollar monopolistic corporation

[manic torrent]

No, valve is centralised and control the economy, it's not decentralised.

[full fossil]

They are my friends OwO they gave everything to me, and I barely gave anything to them tbh xD

[vapid moss]

valve popularized tons of stuff that people now hate, like Lootboxes in TF2, Battle pass in Dota 2

[stray apex]

yeah, but let's not pretend like people into NFTs actually gave a shit about decentralization

[full fossil]

Dip it in mustard

Girls love mustard

[timid meadow]

Just talk about how big your hardware is and she'll jump kekw

[dreamy rose]

nobody talked about Battle Pass before Fortnite

[full fossil]

No worries here to help

[manic torrent]

I mean... It's a fundamental difference.

[stray apex]

truly masters of monetization

[full fossil]

Battle pass is great innovation

Epic definitely innovated with fortnite and I commend them

[stray apex]

fundemental to the underlying technology, but in practice
haha money go up

[full fossil]

Battlepasses are great

[dreamy rose]

Sure, Pay to unlock. sounds lovely

[manic torrent]

So egs is "extortion".

[timid meadow]

Im still pissed save the world died

[full fossil]

In other words they don't try to control what shitty games people make xD I find that as a good thing

[full fossil]

Paying for skins is not a foreign concept. Just gives me a reason to grind and earn. Sure I’d love to get them for free but it’s fun either way.

[stray apex]

no, children actually gamble money on cs:go skins

it's wild

[manic torrent]

Yeah this is absolutely true.

[unkempt widget]

oh yeah

[vapid moss]

2013 was the first battlepass style with the Dota 2 International compendium later renamed to Battle Pass in 2016, a year before Fortnite did it

[dreamy rose]

Battle pass is "Give us money and play Peasant. if you play long enough you get the Canoe for an hour"

[unkempt widget]

don't you love it when epic just does this

[stray apex]

fortnite was definitely the one that popularized it, though

fortnite also popularized the seasonal model of live service games

[manic torrent]

I hate it when companies ask for payment for things. It's the worrrrrst

[full fossil]

Yeah. Gives a reason to play. It’s refreshing and breathes new life into games we enjoy. Worth it.

[unkempt widget]

at least it's only cosmetic

[stray apex]

nah, battle passes turn playing games into a chore

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the worst thing is p2w

[full fossil]

Then don’t get it.

[dreamy rose]

Absolute Bollocks.

[full fossil]

No one’s forcing you lol

[stray apex]

oh, you want this cosmetic? guess you better make sure you play the game for at least three hours a week!

[manic torrent]

.... The sarcasm wasn't obvious enough

[full fossil]

Idk how children can even get money OwO

[full fossil]

Asking parents

[stray apex]

yes, but they're using my FOMO to force me to regularly play their game

battle passes work so well because of human psychology

[dreamy rose]

Battle passes can be done right but nobody does it right

[manic torrent]

Yes. Which is why Forza has a new unlock every week

[stray apex]

I dropped warframe when they added their battle pass system

[full fossil]

Just don’t have fomo then… it’s still a business at the end of the day - battlepasses work in everyone’s favour

Even if more so the corp

[stray apex]

because it turned a game I could play whenever into a game I had to play daily

[full fossil]

Then just don’t get it lol

[stray apex]

yes
that's why I dropped it

[manic torrent]

See I get this. It's unfortunate, but eh.

[full fossil]

So it’s not for you? But it is for an overwhelming majority

[unkempt widget]

don't you love it when epic just does this

[stray apex]

so are lootboxes lol

[wind pulsar]

Can you not be like this, bruh

[stray apex]

doesn't mean they're not shitty

[full fossil]

Agreed

[dreamy rose]

sounds like a Lazy attempt at trying to kill a Giant

[full fossil]

But I do think they’re good for a lot of people, even if the motives are shitty

[unkempt widget]

when i click back to home, this happens:

[full fossil]

Not literally beneficial, but engaging lol

[full fossil]

Excuse me?

[dreamy rose]

its even more Pathetic.

[unkempt widget]

when i try rebooting the program, it just does it again

i have to go into task manager and kill it there

[full fossil]

You should try super f4… great program

[dreamy rose]

hmm. does Heroic launcher work on Windows?

[full fossil]

Task manager kill but as a keybind

Highly recommend

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the amount of tabs i'm having is worrying

[full fossil]

Helps when you get stuck on a pesky game that won’t close

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one time a game that crashed won't even close with task manager

[full fossil]

https://stefansundin.github.io/superf4/

Oh wow might have crashed your GPU drivers lol

[unkempt widget]

that's probably what happened

and then beeping noises came

[dreamy rose]

tbh this isnt strictly an epic problem either R*L is shit and so is the Xbox app

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and then everything crashed along side of it

and then when i restarted pc, i got an error message

while restarting 💀

[full fossil]

Rippppp

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it works perfectly fine now tbh i did get a new gpu by now

[full fossil]

Yeah welcome to modern day problems

[full fossil]

Oooh cool whatcha got now?

[unkempt widget]

didn't i already tell you like yesterday?

[dreamy rose]

i have no problems with EA Play only cause of have just NFS 2015 and NFS HP Remastered.

[full fossil]

I don’t remember sorry lol

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wait where you the guy

[full fossil]

I have terrible memory r

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anyways i think you called me a nvidia shill for it
it's a 4070 ti

[full fossil]

Oh no lol but I was there for the convo

[unkempt widget]

was it someone else?

[full fossil]

Sick!!! Great card

[full fossil]

Yeah I don’t remember who tho

Vert I think

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i don't think vert would say such a thing tbh

[full fossil]

I dunno I just searched shill and that’s what I saw lol

.

[unkempt widget]

oh yeah you said "imagine buying a 4070 ti"

and then i was like ...

i don't regret it tbh

although it did feel a bit anticlimatic

[full fossil]

I don’t think I did

[unkempt widget]

i've said this multiple times, but the best part of pc building is fantasizing it

[full fossil]

Parents know what steam is? OwO interesting,
As I admit it's not something would support xD but really can't give a fuck about this small dirt on steam, compared to other 99% great things they did OwO

[full fossil]

I guess

[unkempt widget]

oh i confused you for the other guy again

[full fossil]

Just checked I deffo didn’t I think you have me confused

[full fossil]

Rip

[unkempt widget]

no, you just ask them for their credit card

[full fossil]

Take it* smh

[unkempt widget]

if your parents are rich, they might give you ridiculous amounts of money and you spend it all on lootcrates

ik a classmate that did that

meanwhile i have a 4070 ti 😎

[dreamy rose]

Valve should ban the idea of running the second launcher if you buy it through steam.

Does nothing but pisses everyone off.

[unkempt widget]

man i wish rocket league was still available on steam

[full fossil]

only ppl who bought it have it now

[unkempt widget]

even if it was 20 dollars, i'd pay for it
even if i had to reset everything, i'd still pay for it

[full fossil]

Wish I had such parents xD

[unkempt widget]

i just discovered this game like recently

[full fossil]

oh wow really?

[full fossil]

OwO

[unkempt widget]

i mean i knew about the game earlier, i just never paid attention to it