public-chat

[jaunty compass]

it's just a raspberry pi in a vesa mount case on the back of a TV with emulation station lol

[dreamy rose]

nice

wish i had a little emu box.

[finite cloud]

thats about what id do if i had the roms :P

[dreamy rose]

all i own are Genesis and Wii games.

[finite cloud]

all ive got is steam games

[dreamy rose]

those are all i can legally emulate.

Still gotta get a copy of Mario Kart Wii

and a Wii U

[jaunty compass]

My mother turned the closet under the stairs into a play area for him and I added the gaming stuff

[finite cloud]

Do what you want cuz a pirate is free, you are a pirate!

[jaunty compass]

I too love crime

[finite cloud]

oh actually that is pretty nice

[dreamy rose]

potter the gamer

[jaunty compass]

the raspberry pi is mounted to the back of the TV so you can't see any of the cables without looking behind it intentionally

i hooked it up with a crappy repro snes controller for now since it just has 2d games

[worldly raft]

hey guys, does anyone know why PC part Picker UK does not have link to any AMD 7000 Series pc component such as cpu, ram and motherboard?

[finite cloud]

they may not have added them yet or there arent any available. you can do last year's stuff for now to get an idea of what you want to build/buy

[worldly raft]

do you think 5600x is still good for further 3-4 years?

[fossil frost]

they are very available in the uk https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/cpu-amd-desktop/amd-ryzen-9-7000-series-socket-am5-processors

[heady flicker]

depending on your use case, it can last longer

[fossil frost]

and if you set the filter to zen4, pc part picker uk does show the 7000 series parts

[worldly raft]

alright, thank you

[wind pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nn5j2zxD-M
The first thing I did was google when the Xbox 360 released and my first thought was 'OMFG I'm OLD'

It was firsthand feeling like a crooky nanny vibes, and I'm not even 25

[dreamy rose]

2005

nearly 20 years

[polar fern]

thats around when i was a nyc tour guide

[dreamy rose]

you mean 2008?

[polar fern]

no

[wind pulsar]

By then he wouldn't've been one anymore kek

The great depression was.. depressive

[dreamy rose]

GTA IV

[polar fern]

in 2008 i attempted to set up my own travel info business

but yeah hm 2008

[wind pulsar]

Was about to say

2008 was a terrible time to do it

[polar fern]

tours were fine tho did that till 2012 then moved on to other stuff

[dreamy rose]

its gonna happen again anyway.

[finite cloud]

wow....im almost as old the 360 by a year

[polar fern]

credit default swaps will undermine the global economy again?

[dreamy rose]

i'm literally a month and 3 days older than the Wii.

[heady flicker]

huh

oh jesus christ

never say that again

[finite cloud]

say what

[wind pulsar]

[dreamy rose]

i'm 16. live with it.

[median idol]

I remember when the Xbox 360 and Wii first came out

[dreamy rose]

Nothing Forever

[polar fern]

i dont remember when any of that came out because i dont obsess over video games 😛

[wind pulsar]

I remember there being a kilometre long line in front of Gamestop-equivalent store to get a Wii but me not getting why people would line up for that

[next wraith]

my fellas

[polar fern]

i remember when the iphone was released. when i got the iPhone 3G revolutionized my tours. no more printing out 500 things

[next wraith]

officially on windows 11

[polar fern]

ew

[dreamy rose]

L Windows

[heady flicker]

now's a great time to upgrade to windows 10

[next wraith]

didnt lose my files, and my 2nd user that was created when i changed my name in windows 11 got deleted with the update, HELL YEAH

guys if u think about it windows 11 is not grim at all, in fact i feel its more optimised and i have less lag when opening files, everything seems more smooth. Also u can change non-intuitive menu windows 11 right click on files to windows 10

[dreamy rose]

i agree. before EOL ended 8.1 was the place to be

[dreamy rose]

Counter Point

Extreme bloatware

Forced Spying

[next wraith]

wait what

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, you'd have to give me sources on that chief

[next wraith]

bloatware what is even THAT! and spying? no way brother

[wind pulsar]

There'd be at least three scandals if Windows 11 did that

[dreamy rose]

i mean at least there are ways to get out of a Microsoft account but if you don't want it you have to know a Knockoff Konami code to get there

[wind pulsar]

Nah, that statistic is effectively pulled out of his ass, and the 'bloatware' is in reality just something like the MS stores and stuff

(So it's not bloatware)

But it's dumb enough that you can't (or is very tedious to) remove it that people somewhat rightfully call it bloatware

[dreamy rose]

Films and TV, Groove Music. bloatware. you already get Windows Media Player.

[wind pulsar]

The Media player would be long gone if people wouldn't immediately cry three lakes full if they don't have an alternative

[dreamy rose]

WMP does the job of both apps. and has for a LONG time. the two are bloatware.

and then another downside of 11. Default Apps.

[wind pulsar]

That's great, considering how lots of people are still installing Windows 11, nobody cares

[dreamy rose]

every installation you HAVE to click a million times to change what could be done in one, what, all for the continuation of Internet Explorer.

what junk

[narrow grail]

I was 4 when the wii came out, but i still remember my dad setting it up for the first time. i also remember the 360 launch

one of my first phones was the original iphone

[jaunty compass]

I just use VLC tbh

[dreamy rose]

Doesn't come with windows though.

[narrow grail]

imagine calling two tiny apps "extreme bloatware"

[dreamy rose]

the entire OS is full of bloatware. not these two apps.

[narrow grail]

like what

[placid mauve]

Which OS would that be?

[narrow grail]

win 11

or just windows in general i think is his argument not sure

[dreamy rose]

its not 11, but 10 can be debloated to be running under 100 processes. when standard it literally runs like 140+. i've got everything i use open and only have 108 running now.

[manic torrent]

Which is important if you are using technology that came over on the ark.

[placid mauve]

Oh yeah, it sucks that there are some applications on windows that you can’t remove

[manic torrent]

Does it?

[dreamy rose]

Debloat removes a lot that you can not remove through regular methods.

[narrow grail]

ok but thats not bloatware, thats just processes. bloatware is unwanted apps and programs. plenty of those backround processes arent full applications. i agree the backround is loaded with more than needed thats for sure. but calling it bloatware is not technically correct imo

[dreamy rose]

But. windows shits itself if you delete Edge!

[molten drift]

I hate picking somewhere to eat... Indescision is the worst some times

[dreamy rose]

must be fun at parties.

[narrow grail]

and yeah i have 260 backround processes lol

oh i sure am

[manic torrent]

Ironing is delicious

[placid mauve]

[night heron]

or just install window 10 enterprise ltsc and you wont have edge, cortana, or the microsoft store

the start menu will literally only show file folders

its fully stripped out of box

[molten drift]

Thankfully I'm down from 13 options to 3...

[manic torrent]

Get five guys

[molten drift]

That's actually one of the three options lol

[narrow grail]

five guys is great

[dreamy rose]

200 dollars for a meal.

[manic torrent]

I know 🙂

[jaunty compass]

My little brother is playing Mario all stars

He likes the RetroPie system

[molten drift]

I just dont wanna spend 12$ on a burger and no fries... It feels too over priced for 3 smash patties bacon picked mayo ketchup and no bun.

[manic torrent]

Stuff costs money

[narrow grail]

i have one of those retro pies, its really cool. pretty fun to play

[placid mauve]

Understandable

[molten drift]

Where as at CFA I can get 2 sandwiches for the same price.

[dreamy rose]

for 6 burgers? Fuck no i'm not paying that

[molten drift]

Or McDonald's where I can get like 4 for that cost.

[narrow grail]

good thing its not your money lol

[dreamy rose]

they literally set up shop here, Take the US Prices and put them into AUD.

[molten drift]

But I'll have all while driving and going through Walmart to figure out where I'm going as I got 4 mins left then a Walmart run to do.

Gotta get some storage containers, and snacks.

[placid mauve]

I never eat at McDonald’s, I personally like the Mr beast burger, they are a bit on the expensive side but not as expensive as $12 for the same quality, maybe better

[manic torrent]

We had Mexican last night. I had a delicious burrito

[narrow grail]

ive been wanting to try beast burger

and yeah i hate mcdonalds, i think its gross. but to each their own

[dreamy rose]

my honest top two pics are KFC and Subway,

[molten drift]

I dislike onion and doordash Dosent let you customize Mr beast burger do I've never tried it.

[wind pulsar]

The chicken burger with remoulade and veggies I sometimes eat is like $4, lol

[molten drift]

Ehh I get it with no bread and only sauce and pickles cheese and meat and eat with a fork. It more so a good amount of protein and cheap

[dreamy rose]

IDC if KFC is shit anywhere else, KFC here is just. really good

[placid mauve]

It depends on where it’s coming from, after all it’s made in a ghost kitchen so sometimes it may come delivered in great quality, other times they forget part of your order

[narrow grail]

thats how most delivery services are for me sometimes tho so thats the usual

they mess our orders up often

[molten drift]

I mean they made my quad stacker from BK a double on my last order lol.

[narrow grail]

they sometimes forget entire burgers or something like that for me

[polar fern]

beaking news: inflation has just hit fast food meat supplies

[wind pulsar]

I have a good and cheap place like thirty seconds away by foot, screw McDonalds

They make it themselves and it's cheap, lol

[dreamy rose]

Inflation hit GPUs the hardest tbh

[polar fern]

all that stuff is just 4 hours on the toilet. i need real food

[narrow grail]

my work has a culvers on the other side of the intersection that i used to go to a lot

[manic torrent]

Yep. Constantly

[narrow grail]

definitely

[placid mauve]

Till the market crashed and now my gpu that I bought for $500 is now worth $200

[narrow grail]

i shoulda sold my 1660 ti when they were going for upwards of 500 lol

[dreamy rose]

you can buy a Worse version of the 4080 for 1800 dollars called the 4090.

[polar fern]

we gonna rock down to electric avenue

[placid mauve]

And spend that amount for a 3070 founders edition at Best Buy

[narrow grail]

well i got a 3070ti last august so im gucci

[dreamy rose]

cannot stress enough how shit this is. you wanna Spend 5K on a laptop?

[limpid hamlet]

[placid mauve]

Hell no, I built a more powerful rig for less and have the option for great vr gaming

[limpid hamlet]

Hi

[narrow grail]

my bird is barking alongside my dog

[dreamy rose]

exactly. this is what Nvidia wants you to buy.

[next wraith]

Movies and TV app replaces VLC. and that is a hella good replacement as well

just gotta set that up as default instead of shitty buggy VLC

or Windows Media Player

however u want to call it

[dreamy rose]

poor taste in jokes

[placid mauve]

I set opera gx as my default browser cause I don’t like using Microsoft Edge or chrome

[leaden gale]

Mfw VLC has literally always worked fine

Mfw VLC doesn't require me to pay 2 dollars to play fucking H.265 content

[slate river]

what about mpv

[past egret]

VLC could use some QoL updates

[dreamy rose]

Brave is just the best browser out there.

its Chromium and its always gonna have an Adblock

all anyone wants

[placid mauve]

Well, I think anything that isn’t edge or chrome is best

[dreamy rose]

so you Chose Opera?

[next wraith]

@leaden gale what is MFW VLC? i'd like to use anything better than normal VLC. no cap.

[narrow grail]

opera is pretty good

[placid mauve]

For the ability to put ram limiters on cause it has that feature

[past egret]

my face when VLC

whatever vlc means

[leaden gale]

This

[slate river]

VideoLAN player

[dreamy rose]

for consoles yeah.

[next wraith]

there's media player, movies & TV and VLC Media player in windows default apps that u can choose

is there anything better out there than these 3 ?

[past egret]

yes especially Luciano Pavarotti

[wind pulsar]

Not really tbh

[slate river]

MPV is pretty big, but mostly on the Linux side

[placid mauve]

I also have Firefox, but only to broadcast movies or tv shows in vc with friends cause any other browser won’t work because of the drm software

[narrow grail]

i especially like that one

do love me some luciano

[dreamy rose]

i have Vivaldi for School. but Brave is the browser to use.

[narrow grail]

whats so brave about using a browser, everyone uses browsers

[dreamy rose]

lion

[rose laurel]

Brave is a chromium based browser

[narrow grail]

where did lions come from now?

[placid mauve]

The built in group sharing in prime video and Disney plus were always so finicky to work with and often not work, so that’s why I use Firefox to watch videos with friends over vc

[rose laurel]

Brave's icon is a lion

[narrow grail]

i know, you missed a joke

[rose laurel]

I was hoping to, but just in case

[placid mauve]

Most browsers are

[dreamy rose]

yeah. its everything a user could want

[rose laurel]

I tried it because I got it recommended like WOW THE BEST, you shouldn't use anything else!!one!!!

[slate river]

what about firefox

[rose laurel]

It still relies on google app store so why would I really care?

[dreamy rose]

no built in ad block either

[rose laurel]

Eh, I use uBlock Origin

[placid mauve]

I just use that as an alternative for video broadcasting cause the group share function in Disney plus never works for me

[night heron]

[dreamy rose]

every time i use a Live USB i forget i have to install the Adblock. annoying.

[placid mauve]

Not all my friends have Disney plus, and I don’t want to password share either, so that’s why I do it

[placid mauve]

Well I feel like because google is trying to crack down on ad blockers, I might consider using one of my raspberry pi computers to run pi hole

[dreamy rose]

just use brave or anything with a built in adblock. those wont be touched

[placid mauve]

But isn’t brave a chrome based browser, wouldn’t that built in ad blocker not work once google updates their services to make ad blockers no longer function

[dreamy rose]

no, because its not Affected. its not an Extention.

[placid mauve]

Ah I see

But I probably will still do the pi hole route, it gives my unused raspberry pi something to do other than collect dust

Especially ever since I upgraded to a raspberry pi 4

[dreamy rose]

pointless going through a Pi

[placid mauve]

[next wraith]

GOM Player anyone? yay or nay

[uncut citrus]

So I just finished my platform swap (8600K -> 5800X3D)

Is there anything I should do now?

Never done a platform swap before]

[dreamy rose]

nice upgrade

[uncut citrus]

Indeed

6C | 6T just wasn't cutting it for me anymore

[dreamy rose]

everyone is still using a6 core.

[full fossil]

Huge jump in ipc

And clock speeds

[uncut citrus]

I primarily game

[heady flicker]

there's running corecycler then setting a negative pbo offset using pbo2 tuner to improve thermals

and then use windows task scheduler to make the pbo2 program run at start up

not strictly necessary, though

[mint yacht]

If they're using an Asus or one other motherboard they do not need PBO tuner anymore as the function has been unlocked in the BIOS

[heady flicker]

yeah lucky them

[mint yacht]

I would point them towards overclocking their RAM though because Ryzen moment but, eh, X3D doesn't exactly care does it lol

[heady flicker]

hey, it can still benefit from higher memory bandwidth

[dreamy rose]

5800X3D doesn't get the full benefit either.

[heady flicker]

not quite the right place to ask for a free computer

[finite cloud]

You can have my Eee PC

[dreamy rose]

would of been a Better choice to wait for the 7950X3D but that's. a wait

[heady flicker]

you can try looking at local listings

[dreamy rose]

no begging

[heady flicker]

7950x3d doesn't make sense

[dreamy rose]

just look at things like Free geek or something.

rules are rules. we cant beg for free things in the server.

[finite cloud]

@mint yacht

[heady flicker]

you don't really need more than 8 cores for gaming, so 7800x3d is like the only reasonable purchase imo

[finite cloud]

Well you’ll make their job easy at least

[heady flicker]

if only they would make a 7600x3d, which would definitely have a higher demand than 7950x3d

[dreamy rose]

but its a 16 core. and thats good

[finite cloud]

Dude stop

[tender glade]

what

[dreamy rose]

its a troll

[heady flicker]

most games can't really utilize more than 8 cores, let alone more than 2 or 4 cores

[uncut citrus]

If I reset my PC, will it uninstall EVERY program or just the ones on the C:/ drive?

[night heron]

budget shoppers arent buying am5 anyway

[heady flicker]

depends on what kind of "reset" you do

[fluid ridge]

it will reset windows

everything on windows is gonezo

[night heron]

just get a 7800x3d

[heady flicker]

I believe it'll get rid of any programs that you installed, but will keep files like pngs, .txt files etc.

[uncut citrus]

:/

[fluid ridge]

x3d is a scam

if you want cache buy a threadripper

[night heron]

threadripper is ass for gaming

[dreamy rose]

nope

[heady flicker]

i'd much rather pay $300 for a 5800x3d than $2500 for like a threadripper

[fluid ridge]

if you are reinstalling windows you should do it from a USB

media creation tool

that way it's a clean install

[dreamy rose]

yeah. the built in thing is rather shit.

[uncut citrus]

Rufus FTW

[dreamy rose]

*Ventoy

[mint yacht]

[fluid ridge]

i dont think microsoft supports any flashing software for windows besides media creation tool

for best results get from official source

[night heron]

makes no difference

[heady flicker]

it doesn't really matter

whichever way you prefer

[night heron]

the iso i use isnt supported by the media creation tool anyway

[dreamy rose]

you just get the ISO from it and put it into ventoy alongside all your other ISOs

[night heron]

i just used the tool for the first time three days ago when i installed windows 11

[fluid ridge]

what is ventoy

[uncut citrus]

Can't I just unplug my other drives and leave the C drive in?

[fluid ridge]

balena etcher supremacy

[uncut citrus]

Then reset it?

[fluid ridge]

yes

[dreamy rose]

you put it on the USB and drag ISOs onto it. its the best idea out there,

[fluid ridge]

or you could upload important stuff to a secure cloud storage provider

for example icloud is a dollar a month for 50gb of storage which is absolute bonkers

[dreamy rose]

as long as you put your files on a second drive then its good

[night heron]

put your files on a dvd and vacuum seal the dvd

[narrow grail]

load your entire pc off 1.4mb floppies

[dreamy rose]

Flexplay?

[rugged bridge]

just made this..
lol

[dreamy rose]

which DVD logo?

maybe. idk

[narrow grail]

i dont see a channel thats specific, so maybe just the troubleshooting one i guess?

[placid mauve]

Probably the tech support channel

[dreamy rose]

you mean Tech Support?

[narrow grail]

yeah that

my bad, used to the forums lol

[dreamy rose]

i don't like the fake ass forum thing discord made and they use for Tech Support

[narrow grail]

what forum is that

i meant the ltt forum

[finite cloud]

It’s just called tech support

Its not a forum it’s in this server

[narrow grail]

oh you mean the thread or whatever discord calls it

yeah its wierd

[dreamy rose]

no. this is a little forum thing.

a thread you can make through a Text chat

[narrow grail]

yeah ik what it is. but i dont think discord calls it a forum. im fairly sure its a thread

[finite cloud]

No they made a new thing called forums but it’s not a forum website

[dreamy rose]

discord features are getting weird now

[finite cloud]

It’s definitely a forum

[narrow grail]

oh i see

my mistake

[finite cloud]

This is a thread. Although this server doesn’t have any

[dreamy rose]

cant make one

[narrow grail]

i havent been in any discord servers that use it so idk, just thought it was the threads

[finite cloud]

It’s a new feature and honestly sort of dumb so that’s why no one uses it

[dreamy rose]

i've seen a few. but they werent ever super useful

[narrow grail]

the format is kind of wierd, i dont like how it makes the text chat skinny

[finite cloud]

They’re nice for long messages so you don’t take up half a channel but that’s about it

[placid mauve]

Well threads were inputted so you can have a more private/one on one conversation within a public server, but that doesn’t mean that others can’t join in as well

[stray apex]

threads are really more designed to be sort of "take it to another channel" things

the problem, of course, is that nobody ever does that anyways

[placid mauve]

I kinda think of it as public dms, like the idea that you are having a one on one conversation with someone out in public, but someone near by overhearing your conversation can just jump in on the conversation

[ebon otter]

Idk what I want for my birthday

[narrow grail]

me either tbh

[placid mauve]

Mine already passed so I don’t have to worry

[narrow grail]

mine comes up in april

so i got a couple months to think

[placid mauve]

Mine was like a month ago

I tend to tell my family a little late cause it’s so hard to think of what you want when you already have what you want

[narrow grail]

exactly

[placid mauve]

I’ve noticed it gets harder to think of things when you have a job and earn money on your own

[narrow grail]

thats something no one ever tells you

but its true sometimes, same with christmas

[placid mauve]

Ye

[dreamy rose]

mines in October and i've gotten barely anything for the past 3. i want things but dont get any of it.

[placid mauve]

I think it depends on what you are asking for, cause my family chooses based on if it’s not too expensive and I can genuinely use it

[narrow grail]

yeah i usually have a cost celing of $100

dont usually ask for anything more than that

[hollow pulsar]

Chocolate orange or $100+ tech stuff. I have nothing in between. :/

[placid mauve]

I asked for a socket set for my birthday cause I can use it to work on my car when I need to do maintenance

Got it on my birthday

[narrow grail]

i asked for dnd dice and a new bluetooth speaker for christmas

[dreamy rose]

i always just wanted an SSD or something small. was running a SATA II HDD. now i do have an SSD what i need to focus on is another SSD for games and some Peripherals.

[hollow pulsar]

Speaking honestly, I’d totally be happy if I ONLY got the chocolate orange-or nothing at all.

[narrow grail]

i had one of those

liked it in the beginning, hated it 3/4 of the way through

[placid mauve]

What’s the capacity and what brand

[full fossil]

uh I also need a good powerbar for cable management
not one too expensive but not some low quality one

[hollow pulsar]

Gotta slowly work on it. 😛

[dreamy rose]

i got the Teamgroup CX2 356GB.

[narrow grail]

i dont have restraint

lmfao

[placid mauve]

Just make sure it can handle the kind of power draw that you plan to pull from it, and have a built in circuit breaker

[placid mauve]

I’ve never heard of that ssd brand

[dreamy rose]

it was mega cheap. only reason i got it. and my Drives were dying so i had to.

[narrow grail]

how much

[dreamy rose]

it was like 31 AUD

[narrow grail]

so 50 usd

i see, i got a crucial p2 500gb sata m.2 for 50 a couple years ago

wait my bad hold on i did that wrong

[dreamy rose]

had to pay like 9 bucks for shipping. took a week longer than it should have cause they flew it to the other side of the bloody country

[hollow pulsar]

As I get older, I find my dependency chain just gets longer and more annoying. I want a bidet. But I also don’t want it to malfunction and I want it to work very well with convenience features. This places it in a higher-price tier. Ok. I can save up for that. But scale-buildup is a thing in my household. So then I’m looking for water softeners that have ongoing maintenance costs… is there anything else? There is! (Whole-house descaler) this sounds perfect. Also ~$300. So now I’m considering dropping $600-$700 for a bidet. How did it come to this?

[narrow grail]

that was 21 usd not 50

i like my water hard as a rock

[placid mauve]

Ah I see, I normally get the Samsung ssd’s cause they are good quality drives

But that does mean you have to spend more

[strong kettle]

same

[narrow grail]

i recently got a 980 1tb for 80usd

[hollow pulsar]

Our water is so hard I to mow the lawn I just scrape the backside of a broom over it.

[dreamy rose]

they pretty overpriced.

[full fossil]

can you find one for me?

[placid mauve]

You could go for wd-black drives, they are cheaper depending on where you go

[dreamy rose]

i'm stuck on SATA

my laptop is 11 years old

[narrow grail]

does your mobo not have m.2?

oh laptop

[placid mauve]

Well I mean what kind of power draw are we talking

[dreamy rose]

you can imagine what gaming is like cant you?

[narrow grail]

non existent on that laptop?

[placid mauve]

They make 2.5” sata ssd’s

[dreamy rose]

yeah. thats what i have. but there arent blacks. only greens and blues. Reds too

120 dollars for 1TB.

tbh i'd just rather upgrade to an All AMD laptop instead of trying to make this a sleeper.

cant change the GT 540M out for anything half decent and its already got a dead screen

[narrow grail]

just scour your local used market, i got a pretty decent deal on a laptop recently

[full fossil]

im guessing like 2500w

just giving extra room

[placid mauve]

Well, you could use the black series if you have an m.2 to sata converter

[dreamy rose]

thats a bit extra for extra room

[dreamy rose]

yeah. thats what i'd like. but if its already 120 dollars for cheap 1TB SSD i dont think they would bother buying an adaptor.

[placid mauve]

Damn, never thought your power draw would be that high, I was just gonna tell you to get a surge protector and mount it to the bottom of your desk

[dreamy rose]

again when i upgrade i can just use it with an external enclosure,

i have shucked one already so.

[placid mauve]

What about going for 500 gigs, I found a particular converter that can take two m.2 ssds at the same time

You get a smaller ssd, but you have the option to adding storage later by plugging in another m.2

[dreamy rose]

oh the cheapest is actually 86 dollars.

[dreamy rose]

idk if going through adapter through an adapter is gonna work. i have to use a 2.5 to CD drive adapter for the second drive

[placid mauve]

Can I dm you a picture of the item I was referring to

I can’t upload a picture here

[placid mauve]

[dreamy rose]

GTA Canada

[placid mauve]

Wait is that Linus

[narrow grail]

obviously thats gamers two cents

[placid mauve]

[full fossil]

can you send one?

[placid mauve]

Well I don’t know what kind of surge protector that can handle that much energy flowing through it

[full fossil]

I don't really get power outages

[placid mauve]

Neither do I , but my house doesn’t have 30 amp circuit breakers under a 120 volt system

[full fossil]

can you just send me a power bar?

[placid mauve]

I don’t have one, I just use a surge protector for my gaming setup

[full fossil]

can you send me the one you use?

[placid mauve]

No, cause I need it

But you can go to a hardware store and get one

[full fossil]

i mean the link of it

[placid mauve]

Oh

[full fossil]

💀

[placid mauve]

I thought you were asking me to mail mine to you

[full fossil]

why would I ask for that?

[placid mauve]

[full fossil]

just what model

[placid mauve]

I mean I just use the brand surge master

Although mine can only handle up to 1800 watts

[dreamy rose]

how fast would it be if you raid arrayed 100 USBs

[full fossil]

is belkin a reliable brand?

[placid mauve]

Yea they are

That brand is actually one of the third party brands that is approved by Apple

[full fossil]

is the LG 32" Class QHD IPS Monitor vesa compatible

nvm

its 100x100

[trim robin]

depnds on what raid config

and the fact of how you will have these pluged in espalcy geting good speeds on all

[dreamy rose]

Raid 0 with USB Hubs

[trim robin]

well the usb hubs wolud prop cause it to be slow

[dreamy rose]

but its Striping so its writing to all the drives at once pretty much

[trim robin]

yes but this is still 100 usb drives, lets say you have a 5gb usb port its pluged into and if it somehow gave every disk the same bandwith is only about 50mb eatch

and of course thats best case realistcly the speeds will be even lower

now if you had a ton of pcie lanes and the slots and cards for it you can prop get something decent but it wolud be very costy

[river yoke]

tched

[velvet marsh]

Mine's about 32GB/s

[trim robin]

32 gb for?

[hybrid shell]

bruh i got warshipped

[velvet marsh]

Video editing

[trim robin]

i mean 32gbs in what way not use

[velvet marsh]

32 gigabytes per second

[sullen saddle]

bruh

[trim robin]

but what are you geting 32gb/s on

[velvet marsh]

6 nvme drives in raid 0

[sullen saddle]

where the proof at

[trim robin]

you do do backups right?

[velvet marsh]

Its a project drive

[sullen saddle]

no backups, we watch the data on the drive die like men

[trim robin]

6 drives in raid 0 even is just asking for data loss if not backed up

[sullen saddle]

god damn

[trim robin]

zamn

[vapid smelt]

overcompensating

[sullen saddle]

yeah if one drive dies it's basically sewerslide

[velvet marsh]

I only keep the current project on it

[sullen saddle]

aka "homework folder"

[gilded quest]

wow those are some numbers

[sullen saddle]

gotta pump those numbers up those are rookie numbers

[velvet marsh]

When I first built the machine it was 12GB/s

[trim robin]

i do have one question

why?

[velvet marsh]

mainly because I can

[trim robin]

seams vaild

[sullen saddle]

because why not

who wouldn't want to have drive speed upto 12 GB/s

[trim robin]

ive goten about 11gbs on a ramdisk

[sullen saddle]

nice

[trim robin]

one day i hope to set up a more proper server for storage, not the mostly decapated laptop with usb a usb drive

[jaunty compass]

i just found out that schell games participated in developing among us vr

[trim robin]

debateing wether or not i shold stay up very late again or actauly go to bed soon

[vapid smelt]

depends what you have to do tomorrow

[trim robin]

school and what not

[vapid smelt]

go to bed young man

[dreamy rose]

instant game loading

[trim robin]

at this point you ram bandwith is prop the main limit

[dreamy rose]

yeah

[velvet marsh]

ram bandwidth is about 100GB/s

[trim robin]

hmm

well then i guess either lancy or just the progam not being able to do that that fast

[velvet marsh]

tbh software is usually the limitation

[dreamy rose]

have you installed a game to it before just to see how quick it goes?

[trim robin]

just when i think i have sean it all, i get even more impressed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myeatl2Q3wM

[dreamy rose]

but you can see it

[trim robin]

some slight parts yes but most of the whole of it dose fade prety well

[full fossil]

this fucked with my head

[velvet marsh]

Yeah, it's not much faster than a normal nvme drive

[dreamy rose]

yeah. we havent even broke 10GB/s on drives so i would probably expect that

[trim robin]

welp gn

[dreamy rose]

gn

[polar fern]

🤔 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/retailers-sharing-data-meta-1.6737484

[finite cloud]

I don’t like that.

But speaking of….

https://youtu.be/KPeYYXDxyUg

[full fossil]

I really wanna make the smallest fusion reactor

Z-pinch design looks interesting

[high axle]

guys i made a post on battle station, realized i missed a photo and deleted it, made a new one and it won't let me post. is there a cool down time or something stopping me?

[vapid smelt]

you can add more photos to the messages in the post no need to delete it

[high axle]

i tried it didnt work :(( ill give it an hour and post again

[red breach]

are you phineas or are you pherb bro

[full fossil]

lmao XD

Agent P actually xP shhhh

[timid lava]

hey guys

[vapid smelt]

damn your so short

[mild elm]

You’re

[full fossil]

🔪

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/asshole-shut-up-what-the-fuck-jersey-shore-jersey-shore-family-vacation-gif-12717984

[timid lava]

me looking at a buttcrack

sup everyone

[manic torrent]

This laptop stand is perfect!

[timid lava]

foldable laptop

wait thats just a laptop

[manic torrent]

The stand is 250g, opens in a single movement and gets it up nice and high so it's better to use

[nova ingot]

Ah I saw that around

Bit weird if you use a mouse at desk level while the laptop itself is elevated

[manic torrent]

Why?

It replaces the stand in this setup

[tidal glade]

my 12700 is warped already jesus christ

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

[fossil frost]

turns out the cheapo one is just fine too

GN admitted they have been using both the expensive and the cheapo one on test benches in later videos

[tidal glade]

thankfully it's on the part of the die that doesn't have any pads on it

glad i'm running it under a larger cooler with better paste

[vapid smelt]

quality intel mounting

[minor rivet]

Why does it look like its from boston dynamics

[graceful burrow]

It doesn't kek

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/iYU1OskbY-Q?t=481

[still yacht]

hello guys

how are u?

I've been sleepless for 3 days and I need a distraction.

I typed wrong

[graceful burrow]

I wish I was in a coma

[still yacht]

There was an earthquake here 2 days ago.

I'm fine for now, but even though this is not an earthquake zone, it swayed very well.

Turkey

I was able to get some sleep tonight, I manage with coffee.

The company I am currently working for is remote and I have no desire to work.

[solid echo]

Can someone help me how to open a Minecraft server on Windows

[full fossil]

i can arrange that

[graceful burrow]

Thanks

[manic torrent]

step 1: open minecraft.exe

[solid echo]

?

[graceful burrow]

Step 2: pay mortgage

[solid echo]

Doesn't matter anymore

[graceful burrow]

Step 3: give q4 2022 performance review presentation at work

[long herald]

we're already halfway Q1 tho

[graceful burrow]

They do em late I don't make the rules

[manic torrent]

It never did.

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-matters-anyway-saturday-night-live-none-of-it-matters-nothings-important-it-doesnt-matter-anyway-gif-21785380

[long herald]

isnt it early AF in canada?

[manic torrent]

Welcome to life! the game where the game is made up, but the points matter a lot!

[latent plank]

is it late somewhere in the world ?

[long herald]

it's 11AM where i am

[manic torrent]

I built a crane.

[graceful burrow]

I'm boutta build somethin that's for sure

[manic torrent]

obviously the top section is just there for testing/proof of concept, but it works!

The wire you can see coming from the bottom is attached to a winch that can raise and lower the crane.

[young root]

if you have wireless headphones and are tired of them dying, buy another pair lmao

when my g435 dies i put on my hyperx

my airpods pro from 2019 died in 2022 so i replaced them

it hurt alot

[neon valley]

Lol that cool and adjustable cam

My computer cam is still a CCTV cam

Not my phone

I need a cam when work meetings

They dont allowed not to show face in meetings its considerd absent

While using phone. I cant view properly the meeting content shared in the main stream

[long herald]

if this is with teams i think you can use your phone for the webcam and also join on your PC

[neon valley]

I mean work is used WebX

Also i like this CCTV cam it got wide capture

While my wife sometimes watching me working

[young root]

i think im gonna start accepting trades for my gaming pcs to fill out my console collection

like a ps vita and a psp for a 400$ one

og xbox and ps3 for the same

i want consoles so bad

[neon valley]

Nice

[young root]

theyre 200$

[neon valley]

[young root]

it costs me 220$ to build a pc

[neon valley]

@young root it is water cooling?

[young root]

no lmao

its an i5 dell with an rx 580

[neon valley]

😂 👍

[young root]

theyre absolute shit

[neon valley]

@young root lol we same im I5 too in watercooling

But gpu is 1050 Ti Palit

[young root]

kids

[neon mesa]

Someone who doesn't like owning a vita

That RX 580PC gonna do a lot more than a vita

[young root]

i kid gave me a ps5, a hyperx headset and 50$ for one

thats how i got my ps5

[manic torrent]

oh god webx is awful.

[neon valley]

My gpu was from mudy place where they scrap pc board lucky it survive

[young root]

because im a bussiness man

i dont care tbh

i sold an i3 and a 580 for 500$

i3 2100 i beleive

[neon valley]

@young root goodluck on you man let us know when success

[broken wren]

Is anyone a discord nerd

[long herald]

there is a mod role you can mention

[broken wren]

How do I add a thread channel like the “battlestations” to my own server? Idk if someone here will know

[manic torrent]

get more boooooooost

[balmy lotus]

i accidentally punched my screen and then some pixels look weird and then they fix themselves in 15 seconds??? LCD how does this work

[neon valley]

Anyone knows a VR app that make you phone as VR glasse to your pc and full free?

[broken wren]

I’ve got 14 boosts

Tier 3 server

[long herald]

i think it might be easier to just google it and find a video

[broken wren]

I tried idk what it’s even called

[balmy lotus]

vr ridge but it is only 3 definitions of freedom

[broken wren]

[neon valley]

@full fossil i found Trinus VR cracked last year and today i lost the file accidentally updated it because of auto update

[balmy lotus]

it costs money though

[neon valley]

I gues return monthly payment

What for real??

[balmy lotus]

no way???? 6dof turns it into a extremely light weight oculus

[neon valley]

[long herald]

yeah cant seem to really find it either

well J. says he has full boosts

[neon valley]

I cant post picture

[broken wren]

Ahhh

Has it gotta be a community

I’ll have to look into what being a community actually means cause there’s some nsfw chat that goes on 😂

Thanks man that answers my question haha

[neon valley]

😂

Okay ill review it first

My reason was i need vr as desktopview soo i cant bother my baby with the light of the big tv

[broken wren]

Oh f discord has to scan your chats for explicit content to be a community

[neon valley]

Not for gaming

[broken wren]

That really sucks

Hmmm

[neon valley]

[broken wren]

Might be something for me to play about with..

[opaque musk]

oh shit my school laptop just blue screened

[broken wren]

Also can’t have the server marked as 18+ cause iOS bans you from using the server

[neon valley]

😂

[broken wren]

Idk how it becomes marked as 18+

[long herald]

are the channels with NSFW marked as NSFW?

[broken wren]

No but then again idk what’s counted as nsfw - we don’t send OF sort of content haha

[long herald]

you will see a triangle with a exclamation mark next to the #

[broken wren]

I mean to discord terms what counts as nsfw - none of the channels are marked as that

[long herald]

oh you changed your message xD

[broken wren]

Yeah sorry, tried to be more clear haha

[neon valley]

Later and thank for the tips@full fossil

[broken wren]

It’s just a server with 50 of my mates so we all talk some rubbish

[neon valley]

Noice

[full fossil]

underwater skeleton is shooting at me

[past egret]

ok

in real life?

[unkempt widget]

obv

have you not had underwater skeletons shooting at you

[full fossil]

StarMiner!

[dire pecan]

Can someone reccomend a gaming pc build for me? I previously looked at some use dwierd one but i got some moere money and tried myself but idk what im looking at

[unkempt widget]

Awoofy!

[full fossil]

lol

[full fossil]

yes

[full fossil]

wyd

[unkempt widget]

nothing much

[full fossil]

classic StarMiner xP

[unkempt widget]

OwO

[wild wagon]

[tidal scarab]

Hi

[full fossil]

UwU

[unkempt widget]

among us

[summer folio]

1337

[wild wagon]

Sus

[split palm]

Among us

[sacred dagger]

@late flax

and this

[full fossil]

oh wow, they updated curse website OWO

[sacred dagger]

thousands of people died because of that earthquake, and he's making fun of that.how come he doesn't even get any warnings?

[polar steeple]

The same person said the same exact thing yesterday too

Just sayin

[glass ocean]

Got the s23 ultra

This phone is great

[supple lotus]

i just broke my touchpad

[gilded plinth]

physically?

[supple lotus]

yes

and i do not have a mouse

cuz of the earthquake on turkey

[gilded plinth]

all you need is a keyboard

[plush rivet]

You better be serious saying that

[supple lotus]

i am on adana rn

[plush rivet]

a lot of people have been joking about that lately and it’s rlly not that funny to make fun of 1200 people who died

[supple lotus]

do i make jokes?

[plush rivet]

never said you did

[supple lotus]

i am not only playing on the computer

helping people etc.

and its not 1200

[kindred coral]

*Among sus

[supple lotus]

its more and the eartquake is soo powerful

[plush rivet]

holy hell it’s 11K now I haven’t checked

[supple lotus]

i am outside of the eartquake now

but its very close

planning to move

[plush rivet]

Def should

That’s gonna suck being there

[supple lotus]

to mersin

oh finally the goverment does something

[lone dragon]

[tender sentinel]

Is anyone free to help me with laptops?

[polar steeple]

I'm free but I can't guarantee any help

Have you tried throwing it out the window so it learns it's place in the heirarchy?

[tender sentinel]

No....I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and I'm not sure what to buy. My community college's bookstore website doesn't have many options, most of the decent options are $600+ with the ones that realistically should cost $650 (according to specs) being $1000

[summer folio]

If above tips doesn't work, try turning it off & on again. 👋

[tender sentinel]

Lmao, nah. I'm just in the market for a new laptop. Options are slim on my CC's bookstore website

[inland night]

nah just turn it off and on again

because its hard to be acute

[tender sentinel]

Honestly, i the about buying an MSI Modern 14

But by the time I get the money, it won't be $560usd anymore

[inland night]

honestly wait to get the money

[tender sentinel]

That's...what I'm doing

[polar steeple]

Don't buy from the bookstore step 1

Buy used step 2

[tender sentinel]

What's wrong with new?

[polar steeple]

Most if what you're gonna be doing in college is browser based step 3

Nothing except for the price

Laptop pricing is fucked up bro

[tender sentinel]

To be fair, I don't really need it for college except for my one online class

[polar steeple]

Well then you have to identify what you're gonna be using it for

So allow me to rephrase

Most of what most people do is browser based these days

Do you game and/or are you involved in media creation

[tender sentinel]

No media creation, and yes, i game casually

[polar steeple]

Define casually

Like mobile games or just infrequently

[tender sentinel]

I guess infrequently

[polar steeple]

Do you have other devices that you would otherwise game on like a console

[tender sentinel]

No

[polar steeple]

Well

Laptops that can competently game are not cheap

[tender sentinel]

I know.

[polar steeple]

So I wouldn't include that in the consideration if you define yourself as an infrequent gamer

I would get literally any windows laptop with 16gb of ram produced in the past 3 years that's within your budget

And I'd shop used, and I'd look for liquidated business models

[leaden gale]

Step 3: Profit

[polar steeple]

I wouldn't get anything bigger than a 15" laptop if you plan to carry it around at all

Personally I like the 2 in 1 form factor

The lenovo flex is an affordable series of 2 in 1s with competent general computing specs

[tender sentinel]

$650 for something like an HP Victus with an RTX gpu would be worth it to buy new

[polar steeple]

I mean, sure, but consider size and weight and where you plan to use it

[tender sentinel]

That is true.

[polar steeple]

And power considerations

[tender sentinel]

At this point in time, I'd be fine with a laptop that has 16gb ram, Intel i5 11th gen, Iris Xe graphics and 256gb ssd

[polar steeple]

I would unuronically consider getting a gamepass or GeForce now subscription and streaming

[tender sentinel]

Or even 8gb ram if the ram can be upgraded

[polar steeple]

Naw definitely aim for 16gb at purchase laptop ram is some bullshit

Also consider ryzen too

Especially in that price bracket

[tender sentinel]

If I'm gonna aim for Ryzen, I think my best bet would be the Ryzen 5 5500u, as far as i know, the Vega graphics in that Apu are powerful as hell, like on par with the Iris Xe igpu

[pulsar lily]

hey, how do i stop google chrome for popping up a new page every time i lose connection? its very annoying and is happening a lot lately. windows 10

[polar steeple]

Don't expect much from either Vega 2 or Iris Xe. They can technically run games but you won't think it's a great experience

[tender sentinel]

The reason I'd be fine with, let's say an Intel i5-1135G7 with Iris Xe graphics, is because from what I've seen, and read about, the Iris Xe igpu is on par with Nvidia dedicated gpus like the MX250

It's impressive

[polar steeple]

That ain't saying much and that laptop is gonna get hot as fuck and sound like a moped

[tender sentinel]

Lmao, That's when my dumb self would grab my USB hub, stick a computer fan under the laptop and plug in the fan

@polar steeple Besides, if I'm looking online, on websites like Walmart or Target, Ive been setting the Retailer filter to sold by Walmart or sold by Target

I guess i do that so I know I'm not looking at a product page that's most likely half bullshit

[polar steeple]

Newegg and Amazon my dude

[wise tundra]

Moving data from an HDD to an SSD and I have a feeling the HDD is failing as it something fail to load specific folders and the transfer speed fluctuates rapidly from 100KB/s to 75MB/s

Tho CrystalDiskInfo says that the drive is in good condition

[full fossil]

happens, yes.

[full fossil]

we'll pray for you i guess?

[wise tundra]

I think I got all the data out? Tho the disk usage is 150GB (expecting that max 50GB is taken by Windows) but I've only found 37GB actually user data

[full fossil]

... what?

did you get your data or not?

[wise tundra]

It's not my drive, so I don't know what is supposed to be there, but I copied everything I found

[tender sentinel]

Sorry was busy getting ready for class at 12:30

[full fossil]

... ok

[wise tundra]

Yeah I'm very confused

[full fossil]

you should stop working on peoples data recovery if you cant garauntee their data is intact

or dont understand how it works. which you dont seem to understand

[wise tundra]

Oh it's my dad's wife's machine

[full fossil]

cool

[wise tundra]

It was being painfully slow so they asked to install an SSD there and copy everything I found

[full fossil]

i am very painfully blunt. stop helping them.

[wise tundra]

I told my dad that I only found 37GB and he said "Oh well, if there's something important left on the HDD, we can't just copy it later"

[minor rivet]

guys how to disable gif posting from my server?

[full fossil]

stop. helping. them.

[wise tundra]

Why?

[full fossil]

it is an option

[minor rivet]

how to?

[full fossil]

cus helping family is really bad for your blood pressure. actually. go ahead. keep helping them.

[full fossil]

not sure but its there.

[wise tundra]

My dad knows some tech so he atleast knows what reasonable to expect so I think I'm fine here

[full fossil]

ok

[wise tundra]

And he also commented "if the drive fails, oh well, it would've failed anyways"

Also he's the one on the blood pressure medication

[unreal thorn]

Finally switched from vivid to natural color mode on my Samsung and after forcing myself to get used to it it looks so much better

It really started nagging at me why natural looks so faded if it's supposed to be more accurate and the answer was that it's not faded, it's just NOT oversaturated garbage

I was probably biased because I love vibrant colors but now I can never go back. I'm also pleasantly surprised that additionally the screen is going to draw less power

Is there any way I can make the UI oversaturated like it was before? I liked the vibrancy in that aspect

[drifting swallow]

I was expecting to hate windows 11. So far I'm decently happy with it.

[night heron]

ive been having the opposite experience

i expected to like it but i hate it

[drifting swallow]

The snapping windows is way better than 10.

[night heron]

thats true

[drifting swallow]

I have a non-standard monitor layout, and win10 never snapped windows right on my vertical monitor. Win11 figured it out ezpz.

[night heron]

windows 10 has basically no support for window snapping with portait mode

[polar steeple]

Did you change your name since yesterday?

[drifting swallow]

I don't think so, why?

oh wait, wtf, I have the "i'm new here" symbol.

[night heron]

you joined 2 days ago yes so ur new

[polar steeple]

There was a guy in here yesterday who was updating to win11 specifically for window snapping lol

Dunno if it's you

[drifting swallow]

ah, no, I didn't update for that

I was having a ton of other issues and decided to just nuke my win10 and switch to a fresh win 11 install

It'd also been 5 years since I did a fresh OS install, so I was definitely overdue

[gilded plinth]

More than with Win 10?

[drifting swallow]

Yeah, but maybe that's just the romance period of having a new install. My desktop is clean and there isn't a ton of bloat yet

[gilded plinth]

Tried winget?

[drifting swallow]

I also pretty much just use my windows PC for gaming, so anything technical/poweruser-ey is just going to get done on linux

I either just open a VM or if it's computationally intensive I remote deploy what I'm doing from the VM to my server

And now that I have a spare 1080 after upgrading I'm going to put that in the server so I don't have to try to do ML/GPU accelerated stuff on windows or in a dualboot setup or something.

[lucid echo]

After some tweaks and removal of bloatware, it feels like a really polished GNOME3 distro

[drifting swallow]

Yeah, I got that vibe to an extent

[lucid echo]

StartAllBack is nice for fixing a lot of the annoyances (like the fucked right click menu and taskbar tweaks)

[drifting swallow]

I fixed the right click with a registry entry

[unreal thorn]

Does anyone know of a camera app that will automatically delete the pictures it takes within a period of time? I take a LOT of pictures that I only need for like a day and it clutters my file system

[heady wadi]

..You can use a windows VM inside linux

[finite cloud]

I learned recently that if you hit I think it’s advanced options or something like that in the right click menu it brings the old one back. Stupid that it’s like that though. Make it nice but don’t take the options away

And also you have to do that every time you right click

[gilded plinth]

Gaming in VMs sucks

I also dualboot, only for 3DMark tho

[finite cloud]

I have never gotten a windows vm to work

[drifting swallow]

Yes, but gaming on a windows VM is not going to be fun

[finite cloud]

I played half life in a vm and in ran doo doo

[drifting swallow]

My windows PC is just for gaming/personal projects.

Everything else I own is linux, because it fits what I do way better.

[heady wadi]

you did GPU passtrough right?

[finite cloud]

Nope

[gilded plinth]

One guy I know showed me how to get KVM GPU passtrough working but it was just easier to get another disk and install Windows there

[lucid echo]

StartAllBack allows you to restore the original style of right click, so you don't have to hit More Options

[heady wadi]

Windows is just kernel level spyware

[lucid echo]

As someone who's successfully done single-GPU KVM, I agree. It's a brutal process and quite unstable once it's working

[finite cloud]

I didn’t want to bother with pass through because it would involve me having to reboot my computer I think to get it to work and I don’t have a second gpu

[drifting swallow]

Yeah, it's easier for me to just run windows to play games, and then either work in a VM or just dual-boot linux.

[trim robin]

same

[drifting swallow]

I basically end up booting windows during the week for gaming and then linux on the weekend for competitions/projects

[finite cloud]

I don’t use Linux at all anymore it’s not worth it

[heady wadi]

why not?

[lucid echo]

Hey, it's almost like each OS suits a specific use case and different people have their own needs and priorities

[drifting swallow]

Depends on what you do. For me I can't do a lot of the stuff I need on windows

[gilded plinth]

Use whatever works for you

[heady wadi]

Freedom > convenience

[trim robin]

i only use win for gaming rn everything else i can do on linux

[lucid echo]

The only incorrect take on operating systems is that there's only one that everyone should use all the time

[drifting swallow]

It's easy to make this argument until you run into the issue where the thing you need/want does not work on linux.

[finite cloud]

It takes me forever to get it usable and even then I hit a roadblock everytime I want to do anything. Also mostly games are a pain to get working. And then I end up breaking something every time so eh it’s not worth my time

[lucid echo]

For some people, yeah, but not all. Some couldn't care less whether their computer is "free" and just want to do basic tasks and play game

[heady wadi]

thats just the tip of the iceberg, it goes much deeper

[drifting swallow]

Please expand

[heady wadi]

I personally see linux as a great tool

[lucid echo]

Lots and lots of people don't have the time or desire to go deeper

[finite cloud]

I’m happy to have freedom on my pc but if it costs me hours, days, sometimes a week, of nonstop commands and trying to get things to work I don’t think it’s worth it desktop wise

[lucid echo]

Different desires & priorities

[gilded plinth]

I hate Windows but for some things it's just easier to use it instead of spending ages getting something working well, like with 3DMark

[heady wadi]

I use SELinux so i have to write a policy for every app for it to work properly, or else it will be forced to use my default policy which is pretty harsh to protect from ransomware attacks and stuff

[lucid echo]

Good for you bud

[gilded plinth]

That's awesome, I wish I had the time to do that

[lucid echo]

Glad you have the free time to work on that

[finite cloud]

You think most people want to do that? I don’t think anyone would anyways

[gilded plinth]

I'd love to do it, it just takes too much time

[drifting swallow]

The average user is not going to want to, or understand how to do that

[finite cloud]

Even fedora is a pain in the butt for me half the time

[heady wadi]

I mean you can download pre-made policies

[lucid echo]

Be a Chad Linux Enjoyer and accept why most people don't want to go to all that effort

✨ time ✨

[heady wadi]

but NGL, SELinux has protected me from a crap ton of malware

[lucid echo]

I'm sure it has!

[drifting swallow]

I've been using linux for almost 20 years, I used to teach classes on using/getting started in linux, I work with linux daily for work. I can very confidently say that linux is not the right choice for everyone, and you will never convince people it is.

[lucid echo]

^^

Every damn time

[drifting swallow]

There are plenty of situations where it's amazing and is a better choice than windows, but it's not replacing windows for the average PC user or gamer any time soon.

[sonic barn]

I don't want to babysit my pc

[lucid echo]

oh boy

[sonic barn]

I wanna eat it

[gilded plinth]

Oh

[sonic barn]

I eat windex

so I eat windows

[sonic barn]

until it becomes like macos, linux isn't for a normal user

[gilded quest]

2023 is the year of linux on the desktop

trust me

[drifting swallow]

I will say that linux has a come a long way and that in the near future it really could start to eat into windows desktop market. But that will be in a form that basically amounts to "windows but not windows"

[sonic barn]

you have to open the terminal for fixing issues constantly and know where the depencies are, keyrings ,etc

[sonic barn]

x

[drifting swallow]

This is not really true for a lot of default use-cases

[sonic barn]

this is the year of stone tablet

[sonic barn]

ok what about if you have 2 drives

[drifting swallow]

what about having two drives?

[sonic barn]

install something on one of them

[sonic barn]

do you think someone will run like 20 commands and check the terminal for how to do it

[lucid echo]

Don't engage with the children

[drifting swallow]

I don't even understand what you're talking about

[lucid echo]

Trust me

[heady wadi]

fdisk -l to view all block devices

[drifting swallow]

Run 20 commands to do what? have a second drive?

[sonic barn]

https://askubuntu.com/questions/313592/how-to-install-applications-to-a-separate-hdd

[drifting swallow]

My guy, this post is NINE YEARS OLD

[heady wadi]

You can package apps to a AppImage and but them to the drive

[sonic barn]

it hasn't changed

[lucid echo]

I tried to warn you

[sonic barn]

one way to break the system

what if dependencies are broken later

[heady wadi]

they cant

AppImages contain everything an app needs to run

[sonic barn]

but for someone that uses flatpak

or snap

[heady wadi]

I dont use both of them so i dont really know

[sonic barn]

most people get their stuff from there and don't build it

[heady wadi]

You could put the required packages for the app in the drive

[drifting swallow]

flatpak bundles dependencies into the image if you aren't using a standard set of dependencies

[sonic barn]

question is 9yrs old, answers are like 2017 and 2021

2021 has the appimage solution

[sonic barn]

it spreads it across the system

goes in /usr and all that

you have to follow the proposed solution to get around that

which is long

and you gotta do it everytime

[drifting swallow]

Yeah, you were right

[sonic barn]

linux is not good unless u use 1 drive or raid or something

[heady wadi]

well depends

[sonic barn]

as a desktop os

[drifting swallow]

That's an incredibly broad and incorrect statement, lol

[lucid echo]

I expect nothing less

[heady wadi]

you could use BTRFS multi-drive feature to merge the disks together and use them together ☕

[drifting swallow]

BTRFS is awesome

[sonic barn]

that's the something

but what if it fails

[gilded quest]

how do you pronounce it

[sonic barn]

windows and macos just don't care and allow u to just install to whatever

[heady wadi]

i pronounce it as: "better eff ess"

[drifting swallow]

"BTRFS"

[sonic barn]

if 1 drive dies then its fine since its seperated

[gilded quest]

I say "butter FS"

[lucid echo]

butter face

[gilded quest]

ooooo

[heady wadi]

BTRFS has snapshots and ability to recover other drives

[lucid echo]

let it go man, the kid will never budge

[sonic barn]

not a kid

[heady wadi]

I dont do anything else rn so its not a time waste ngl

[lucid echo]

suit yourself

[distant wren]

Let it gooooooo let it goooo 🎵

The cold never bothered me anyway 🤷‍♂️

[sonic barn]

anyways windows can do it faster than linux de

L

[heady wadi]

In what?

[sonic barn]

having a system that works and supports all codecs

[heady wadi]

Linux also does

[sonic barn]

have fun in x11 from like 50yrs ago

[heady wadi]

wayland exists

[sonic barn]

30 years old and still in development

and broken

💀

[heady wadi]

well i never had any issues with it

[drifting swallow]

same

[sonic barn]

I'd rather use an os that collects my data for ads and using an adblock

[lucid echo]

[heady wadi]

if you dont care about privacy you might as well spit out everything you do here m8

[sonic barn]

fractional scaling is 1 thing I can think of

[drifting swallow]

You know you can just say "I prefer windows"

Nobody is going to make fun of you for that

[sonic barn]

I used kde neon before for a year

x11 and wayland

[lucid echo]

No no, anything that is against my personal opinion is objectively worse

[sonic barn]

libinput on a trackpad sucks

[drifting swallow]

Oh right, I forgot

[sonic barn]

mad

[heady wadi]

i never had issues on my laptops trackpad

[distant wren]

"Lets disagree to agree and move on! " 😄

[sonic barn]

have you ever had smooth scrolling aka coasting

[drifting swallow]

woooooow, I can't change my nickname on this server. That's no fun

[sonic barn]

synaptics only has it and that is x11

wayland doesn't support xorg

[supple lotus]

what is wrong with xorg

[heady wadi]

Yes, i can

[sonic barn]

outside of a browser

because that's emulated

[heady wadi]

xorg and wayland are diffirent things that do the same thing

[lucid echo]

I think it's turned off due to people using weird characters in their name

[distant wren]

I think #linux hopped out of their channel 😄

[plush rivet]

Just because you never have issues doesn’t me their isn’t any

[heady wadi]

yes

[sonic barn]

no they are different ways at handling graphics

x11 is old openGL