public-chat

[long briar]

yea Samsung figure it out

[uncut axle]

They get away with less ram because of better optimization imo

[sterile nest]

forgot to even mention the battery

[abstract aurora]

depends where in the world yu are

[flint copper]

I didn't ask for your fantasies. Anyway, thanks for trying to help

[long briar]

as if 888 and 8g1 wasn't a shitshow for power consumption

[stray apex]

Iphones are competitive with the flagship androids for battery life
You'll only get better on those budget battery phones

[long briar]

^^^

[stray apex]

Iphones are also known to have significantly better standby power consumption compared to androids

[tall wedge]

(iphones also have budget options that similarly have better battery life, though not released as often)

[sterile nest]

and i notice iphone is just getting features that samsung already had for 10 years such as the always on display, moving apps anywhere on the screen

[dreamy rose]

i stated a fact Thank you.

[uncut axle]

They pass with battery though optimization as well, I would say you can have worse specs but perform pretty similar to higher specs with better optimization

[long briar]

AOD is uselesd

[tall wedge]

again, this goes both ways at the same rate

[sterile nest]

explain how

[long briar]

and Samsung just started releasing android 13 with stackable widgets, guess where that came from

[stray apex]

Explain what
The fact that apple claps snapdragon every year?

[sterile nest]

explain how it goes both ways

[sterile nest]

not really the asus rog gaming phones are getting the snapdragon 8 gen 2

[tall wedge]

i feel like that one is self explanatory bud, what with the definition of "goes both ways" being what it is

[uncut axle]

14 pro and s22 ultra performs pretty much the same I believe (maybe one is a bit worse than another, idk)

[long briar]

how's the thermals

[sterile nest]

snapdragon 8 gen 2 is by far better then the 16 bionic

[sterile nest]

?

[long briar]

because if 8g1 was anything to go by it was a fucking furnace in your pocket

[stray apex]

So?
A16b still has better single core, and it's older

[sterile nest]

i gave examples wheres your examples of yoyr way

[dreamy rose]

the only things Android doesn't have is iMessage (a piece of shit) and AirDrop which is actually something neat.

[sterile nest]

android has something similar

[uncut axle]

Technically they have airdrop

[sterile nest]

to airdrop

[sterile nest]

they do

[long briar]

yes android nearby share is a thing, no it's nowhere as streamlined

[uncut axle]

Using the same thing basically (just sending over Bluetooth)

Which is what airdrop is

[long briar]

no it's wifi direct now

[uncut axle]

Ohh

[abstract aurora]

Wifi direct is actually pretty neat

[uncut axle]

I thought it was Bluetooth

[sterile nest]

i gave you examples of iphone just getting features that samsung had for 10 years can you give me examples of samsung getting feature that iphone had for 10 years to give more information to your point?

[long briar]

Widget stacking

[dreamy rose]

well then nothing of any value is lost from going to Android then. people just like to think iPhone is better because Apple is the biggest company in Existence

[long briar]

oh wait wrong one, how about a proper virtual keyboard

[uncut axle]

True

[stray apex]

Support for more than 2 years lmao

[long briar]

oh yea that

shit that took too long

[uncut axle]

I mean it depends on what you prefer or use your phone for imo

[dreamy rose]

yeah but it really doesnt make it true if everyone believes it is

[sterile nest]

thats where custom ROM comes in

[long briar]

new samsungs have a 4 year guarantee while Apple is 5-6 for iPhones, 10 years for iPads

[sterile nest]

thats ones thing

[dreamy rose]

samsung is going to stop that.

[sterile nest]

again though custom ROM

[stray apex]

Ah yes
I love relying on unpaid volunteers for my security updates

[abstract aurora]

Cyanogenmod my beloved

[sterile nest]

theyve promised 4-5 years support now

[tall wedge]

apple wins out on performance because

1. they have vertical control of their ecosystem, allowing them to optimize hardware and software in tandem
2. the OS is simply more efficient - despite google's push to use more native code in apps, the majority of apps still run on the relatively ancient fork of java 8 that android uses
3. a large portion of apps are created using web technologies - on ios, the webview is included with the system and is heavily optimized, whereas on android though this can be the case, is almost always overridden by app developers regardless due to the inconsistencies. in fact the gap here was so wide that facebook created a custom webview specifically for android since google didn't feel up to the job

[dreamy rose]

Android is Linux. it can be changed to be what you like

[sterile nest]

when security updates stop getting custom ROM

[sterile nest]

yea

[tall wedge]

i don't care enough to do that, sorry

[long briar]

Overgeneralization that does not accurately reflect Linux or android in any way

[full fossil]

this. so much this. it’s why i got an iphone se2 rather than going for a midrange smartphone

[sterile nest]

sounds to me like you just lost a debate lol

[dreamy rose]

Says who? dont say dumb shit when you dont know what you are talking about.

[sterile nest]

android is what most companies run on besides apple

[tall wedge]

congratulations lmao, whatever you say

[full fossil]

i can guarantee it’s going to get timely updates, new features, and i can say with some confidence that things on the app store will work with my phone. BT doesn’t drain my battery in 10 minutes either

[sterile nest]

smasung has the power to create any operating system if they want

but google is pushing them not too

[dreamy rose]

DeX looks neat.

[abstract aurora]

Android suffers from the need to cater to a ton of different devices. It's more of a one size fits all than a tailored solution. There are pros and cons to that

[sterile nest]

takes you 2 seconds

you should know if you said so

[tall wedge]

due to it being the other option, I would have to say that you are indeed correct here, although I'm not sure what you're trying to point out

[stray apex]

They don't
It's really hard to build an app ecosystem

Not even Amazon has really managed to get people to adopt the amazon fire store

[sterile nest]

i guess but they could base it off of linux like chromeos did as dogcrap as chromeos is

[long briar]

So you're saying, just because Linux is based on Unix and MacOS is openbsd which is also unix... does it make them similar?

[tall wedge]

you are exhausting

[full fossil]

for phones specifically, i think a tailored solution works better

[sterile nest]

how so i am asking a simple question

[dreamy rose]

they are Similar due to the Base. but MacOS is so shitty you wish it wasnt

[abstract aurora]

Whether iOS or Android is better depends on what you want to do with it. If you need it to integrate with everything you own, apple is the way to go. Otherwise there's really no need to spend the prium on their products and Androis is perfectly serviceable

[long briar]

Yet the way everything is handled is completely different?>

[tall wedge]

why does this phrase occur so often in this discord?
@long briar is correct, though android was a linux fork, it has greatly diverged from it's early days

[stray apex]

Why on earth would they do that
Android is free and open source

[sterile nest]

you think the samsung copies apple but cant give me atleast 2 examples

[long briar]

No I get it, this server isn't what it used to be

[tall wedge]

no, I do not want to waste the energy on you

[stray apex]

Removing headphone jacks
Removing chargers
Wireless earbuds

[manic torrent]

android is on top of linux. it's not a fork as such

[long briar]

yea... that

[stray apex]

Oh, smartphones

Samsung copied the idea of a smartphone from apple

[sterile nest]

simple question: unanswered

[dreamy rose]

the Diverge from, the early days doesn't change its base.

[long briar]

read up

[sterile nest]

average apple fanboy:

[tall wedge]

i would be happy to if this was a genuine discussion on both sides

[stray apex]

It can't be
It's just fanboys lol

[long briar]

Average Apple hater in denial:

[stray apex]

For like 99.99% of the population iphone vs Android doesn't matter
They do all the same stuff

[sterile nest]

i gave you examples of iphone just getting features that samsung had for 10 years can you give me examples of samsung getting feature that iphone had for 10 years to give more information to your point?

still havent given me a couple examples

[long briar]

reading... up?

[manic torrent]

This is a waste of time argument

[full fossil]

the difference was at least apple's were decent (though the headphone jack being removed is why i wanted to stay on the SE1 for as long as i could...then it died)

[long briar]

I'm having some fun with it so

[sterile nest]

what am i in denial of

[stray apex]

Apple's what?

[tall wedge]

...

[full fossil]

earbuds

[dreamy rose]

pfff. you ever seen those "Green name vs Blue name Mfs"

[long briar]

oh airpods

[full fossil]

the 5w chargers were not good

[long briar]

airpods were sm better than iconx

[sterile nest]

overpriced

[long briar]

so were iconx

[stray apex]

Samsung had better wireless buds
Apple only started competing when app came out

[tall wedge]

who needs a lobotomy when you can come to this server for free

[sterile nest]

galaxy buds 130 bucks sound way better in every way

[long briar]

tho iconx had 4gb on memory on em for no apparent reason

[long briar]

we're talking when airpods and iconx were new

assuming you know what iconx are

[abstract aurora]

I got some buds2 Pros recently. They're fantastic. Block out the sound of my motobike completely and I can wear them in my tight fitting helmet

[long briar]

samsung level was a shitshow

[sterile nest]

fr my stepdad got some he cant even hear anything when hes wearing them

[dreamy rose]

Earbuds? Blegh. wax. Over ears best.

[abstract aurora]

original buds pro were awful out of the box

[stray apex]

Yeah, basically you buy airpods pro 2 if you have an iphone
And you buy Samsung buds if you have a Samsung
And you cry if you have any other android

[full fossil]

those were the beans right

[long briar]

wut

[abstract aurora]

nah that's the buds live

[full fossil]

oh

[long briar]

beans came way later and those are like airpods but worse

[sterile nest]

nah get the FruitPhone off of wish thats running android 6

[abstract aurora]

The beans do look like they're pretty bad

[full fossil]

sony earbuds exist you know

[long briar]

There was the samsung iconx for 2 generations > galaxy buds > gbuds+ and pro > gbuds live, 2 and pro2

[stray apex]

Ah yes, the sony wf1000xm4h69420 that weigh as much as a phone

[abstract aurora]

I liked the idea of the iconx

[tall wedge]

honestly not that impressed with my airpods pro 2, not sure if apple fired the QC department but the amount of bugs (also in iOS 16) is enough to make me consider android again

[full fossil]

are they really that heavy?

[stray apex]

They had a problem with a patent dispute so

[long briar]

glass sandwich phone design... for the entire industry

[abstract aurora]

buds2 pro are super light

[long briar]

the dispute was a fucking joke

[stray apex]

They're not that heavy
They're just worse than other options

[dreamy rose]

Why bother with a phone when you can get an LTE laptop instead?

[abstract aurora]

I love holding my laptop to my face

[full fossil]

what are some of the bugs you've encountered? just interested: a lot of mine involve the ui just not being ready when i try and do something or apple music encountering a playback error

[tall wedge]

why bother with a phone when you can reject society and go live with the trees instead?

[sterile nest]

what does that mean explain in stupid people terms

[dreamy rose]

that's why you use Wireless headphones

or wired if you so desire.

[stray apex]

Glass front
Glass back
Because clearly iphone 4 was the pinnacle of phone design

[sterile nest]

with california dreamin in the bacjrounds

[sterile nest]

ohh

[abstract aurora]

Okay so I'm gonna say that the feel of the s22U is avtually super nice

[stray apex]

At least we have gorilla glass so it doesn't shatter if you breathe on it wrong

[long briar]

well it better be

[stray apex]

Had a friend who broke the back of an iphone 4 by dropping a bag of Skittles on it

And now the whole industry is like
We want that

[sterile nest]

s6 had glass back im pretty sure

[long briar]

iPhone 4 came before the S6

[abstract aurora]

I ran over my S3 with a forklift and all I had to do was replace the screen

[dreamy rose]

Grab an AMD laptop with LTE, Slap on some Linux. plays all your games, its Upgradable, Best phone

[long briar]

well before the S6

[stray apex]

That came out like
Five years after the 4

[abstract aurora]

DDidn't the s5 have glass back too?

[sterile nest]

tbh lg had glass back round that timr too

[dreamy rose]

no

[sterile nest]

no

[long briar]

no it had a plastic back and a horrible usb port which is why lightning caught on in the first palce

[stray apex]

If only anyone cared about LG mobile
Not even LG

[sterile nest]

i mean one of those things where like direct features

[abstract aurora]

Oh it was the note 5 that stared the no removeable battery thing for samsung

[stray apex]

A touchscreen
An app store

[dreamy rose]

USB 3 SS wasnt that bad. its only Wider and faster than USB 2 which Lightning is STILL based on

[long briar]

how about iPad air 2 getting 8 major OS updates while the equivalent samsung at the time (S2 in 2015) got 1.... for both revisions of the product

actually kinda funny ngl

[tall wedge]

for the airpods - the auto switch functionality is mostly broken now, weird sound issues revolving around microphone usage, and though the "auto-centering" functionality works well on the AP2... it saves the settings as "the new center" for every other pair of headphones? so I'll switch to an old pair and go deaf in one ear

for the phone - #1 is the keyboard, the autocorrect is straight up broken and actively fights against me attempting to input things it won't even suggest

[sterile nest]

i guess

[stray apex]

USB micro-b was given to man by the lord of darkness Lucifer himself

[long briar]

Tab S2 was A5 to A6, 2nd release launched with new model number and A6 which could go to A7

[abstract aurora]

do iphones and ipads still need itunes to sync?

[long briar]

Sync what

[tall wedge]

haven't for quite a while now

[abstract aurora]

Music and stuff

[dreamy rose]

so was the entirety of apple but nobody says anything.

[long briar]

It's mostly iclouds nowadays

[sterile nest]

i mean indirect specific feature i listed before such as always on display, dynamic island/ camera island

[long briar]

local files yes, but most people stream now soooo

[stray apex]

Nah, apple invented the smartphone

[full fossil]

same, i thought it was just me with the autocorrect: don't have airpods (have Bose QC35II)

[sterile nest]

micro usb is ancient

[abstract aurora]

I mean can you plug and iphone/pad into a pc and click and drag music onto it or do you need itunes

[tall wedge]

well apple pushed hard for USB so you give and you get I guess

[long briar]

again, AOD is a piece of shit

[stray apex]

The concept of a smartphone

[long briar]

nobody should use it

[stray apex]

No physical keyboard

[abstract aurora]

If I have to touch itunes that's more than enough for me to stay away from apple

[full fossil]

need iTunes (now just Apple Devices app in win11) for the drivers

[sterile nest]

samsung can have itunes aswell

[tall wedge]

well I haven't plugged an iOS device into a windows computer for years, but

itunes no longer exists at all, at least on macOS

[dreamy rose]

Intel invented the Microprocessor and AMD made it better.

[long briar]

so here's a fun one: Note S22 Ultra will get 4 android updates

[sterile nest]

aod meaning?

[long briar]

always on display

[stray apex]

And then amd forgot how to make them and went broke for a while

[sterile nest]

thats more of a competitor thing

[long briar]

iPhone 14 (base model) will get at least 5

[sterile nest]

like when cars first released

[dreamy rose]

around 2020when i had an iPhone i had to use iTunes

[long briar]

and costs less too

[sterile nest]

ford was the first with that logic u can argue that chevy copied ford

[tall wedge]

why exactly is it such a bad thing if companies copy good ideas (within the bounds of patent law)

[stray apex]

Yes

[full fossil]

wait what? is apple tax just becoming the industry norm or something

[tall wedge]

i'm sorry for your loss

[stray apex]

Chevy would be stupid if they didn't copy off ford

[manic torrent]

If it were anyone else, I would assume this is a joke

[dreamy rose]

yeah. but now they come back kicking ass and chewing Gum.

[sterile nest]

not what i mean by it

[long briar]

Intel did not invent it, AMD was Intel's bitch before being cut off from chip designs so they reverse engineered intel's chip with a picture

[sterile nest]

i mean direct features

[tall wedge]

define direct features then

[sterile nest]

like for example on your side widget stacking

[stray apex]

Is a touch based interface not a feature to you

[tall wedge]

since nothing thus far has appeased you

[long briar]

Like eliminating most of their entire lineup and turning the mustang into an electric SUV?

[manic torrent]

AMD did however add 64 bit.

[sterile nest]

widget stacking, OS features, camera island

[dreamy rose]

then they fucked Intel over by making x86-64. they made it better.

[long briar]

no they made it usable

[tall wedge]

hmm, you're discounting the pioneering work microsoft did with the product that I can't remember the name of

[manic torrent]

The mustang didn't turn into an electric SUV

[stray apex]

Ford sees the future
And also sells so many f150s that they can do whatever they want lol

[stray apex]

Ah yes
The pocketpc or something

[tall wedge]

OS features

[long briar]

IFG which year X86 time would become an issue

X64 is set to die in 2038 or sth

[sterile nest]

really is tbh

[dreamy rose]

but thats exactly what making it better does.

[sterile nest]

?

[full fossil]

ignoring the crazy dickriding that's occuring here for AMD for a sec: there wouldn't be an x86 to iterate on if intel didn't exist

[manic torrent]

You mean 32 bit time. 2038.

[long briar]

oh

yea that

[sterile nest]

still one of my examples though

[long briar]

then we all have to move on and Apple's headstart on ARM will be fun

[tall wedge]

meh the rest will catch up quickly

apple's optimizations were mainly a one off

[long briar]

if their mobile processors were anything to go by doubt it

there's a reason Atom isn't really a thing anymore

Qualcomm took long enough to catch up (for phones)

and AMD isn't touching the market with a ten foot pole

[dreamy rose]

yeah. that much is Credit to Intel. no wait a Busicom Employee made the 4004. then joined intel. so i guess its technically Busicom who "Invented" the design.

[tall wedge]

nothing, just amused

[sterile nest]

what do you mean?

[jaunty compass]

The thing about apple's new arm chips is that they probably won't catch on too much because of the simple fact that I doubt apple is going to put the gargantuan High end M series dies into devices that aren't theirs

[full fossil]

"The project traces its history to 1969, when Busicom Corp. approached Intel to design a family of seven chips for an electronic calculator, three of which constituted a CPU specialized for making different calculating machines."

[long briar]

they don't need to, their devices are mainstream anyways

they don't need more clients they need to give chips to

[sterile nest]

tell me what you mean

[tall wedge]

why are you so persistent in your ways

[jaunty compass]

Personally I'd never buy their computers at this point
I'd be locked to their software and their hardware

[sterile nest]

if your going to say ios 16 Android 13 came out way before ios 16

[long briar]

not software, hardware for sure

[sterile nest]

because you said "<OS features" what is that supposed to mean

[tall wedge]

13 < 16, the math checks out

[stray apex]

Yes, as opposed to the competition where you can support two duopolies

[jaunty compass]

I'm pretty sure the new MacBooks have literally no user replaceable and upgradable components

[long briar]

Guess why

[sterile nest]

again?

what does that mean

[jaunty compass]

At least most laptops let you change the storage and ram capacity

[long briar]

unfortunately not

[stray apex]

That mostly depends on how thick the laptop is

[tall wedge]

i'd tell you but I'm afraid I'm not a (grade 8?) math teacher

[sterile nest]

apple gets 1-2 releases every year

your making no sense

[long briar]

Macbook Pro has better io than XPS soo

[sterile nest]

what is that relating too

[jaunty compass]

All of the laptops I've bought in the past four years have supported swapping storage and only one has not supported ram upgrades

[long briar]

ok and?

[tall wedge]

i can replace the entire macbook every 18 months, why would i need to replace parts

[sterile nest]

no details

[jaunty compass]

🤡

[long briar]

no need, once they lose support in a decade or so then I'll replace

I hate both windows and macos equally

but I need to use both so just suck it up

[valid siren]

the memory and SSD are soldered. So no, they do not. Enjoy paying $400 on a 1tb ssd, beyatch

[jaunty compass]

Ah yes
There's nothing else to do with that thousands of dollars

[valid siren]

And I hope you back up your data, because that SSD is not coming out.

[tall wedge]

meh I like macOS for the most part, at least up until now

[jaunty compass]

You wouldn't download a MacBook

[long briar]

I've never liked macos

but I find so many bugs in windows it almost pisses me off as much

[valid siren]

which is valid, I just think that the "just get a new one" mindset is an incredibly wasteful one.

[full fossil]

i don't like macos but i do like the macbooks for battery life reasons

[sterile nest]

ima leave

[tall wedge]

(it was a joke)

[sterile nest]

tired af

[long briar]

lol

[sterile nest]

2am now

[valid siren]

That is a woosh on me, then.

[jaunty compass]

Average iPhone user

[full fossil]

find me a windows laptop that gets battery life that good

[dreamy rose]

again. Masatoshi Shima Made it while Visiting intel. left Federico with the Credit for it. and joined Intel in 1972. then left for Zilog. it was Technically Busicom who made the Microprocessor.

[sterile nest]

real

[long briar]

Yet iPhones stay relevant for longer somehow?

[jaunty compass]

They catch fire once they're two gens old

[long briar]

Any Android phone people still respect from 2017 tho

[long briar]

the only phones that catch fire are Note 7s

[dreamy rose]

yep. nah chief.

[near nymph]

I just had a fun time regreasing a MASSIVE 3d printer

[long briar]

oh wait... sorry that's not in your agenda

[stray apex]

Note 9 is from 2018

[jaunty compass]

Google pixel 2?

[sterile nest]

anyways bye

[tall wedge]

you are allowed to have a different opinion, I grant you permission

[long briar]

2xl maybe, 2 was ugly

[manic torrent]

Dya have any grease!

[jaunty compass]

I don't respect any iphones, so

[long briar]

but then you look at an iPhone X it still looks very good

[full fossil]

i honestly don't know what you're talking about, the only thing this is true for is the battery and even then it's a $49 replacement

so what

[dreamy rose]

any iphone after the 7 was fucking Hideous. all the fault of the Notch

[jaunty compass]

I used to use an iPhone 7, an iOS update killed it when it was 2 years old

[stray apex]

Yes
And then every Android phone copied it

[long briar]

the first phone to have a notch was an android 🙂

[full fossil]

wha-how

[jaunty compass]

No fucking idea, ask apple

[tall wedge]

the notch did/does suck

[long briar]

the first phone(s) without headphone jacks were also androids

[jaunty compass]

Last iOS device I ever used daily

[dreamy rose]

the First laptop to have a Notch was a Macbook.

[full fossil]

i used a 256gb iphone 7 and although my touch id died about 3 years after getting it it still works

[long briar]

Doubt it

[near nymph]

A whole tube of Mobil EP2

[jaunty compass]

It technically still turned on if you waited 20 minutes and left it in the fridge

But it would get super hot when it booted and took 20 minutes, so it was basically dead

[tall wedge]

i don't notice the notch on my macbook very often but when I do it provides free amusement for a little while, so there's that

[manic torrent]

Well then grease me up!

[jaunty compass]

Blame apple, idk what the fuck that ios update did

[long briar]

there's prolly some chinese brand laptop with a notch before macbooks

[tall wedge]

like it's honestly just funny that this was the best they could think of

[long briar]

and a notch that size on a laptop isn't as noticeable as the notch that size on a phone cough pixel 3xl

[stray apex]

they probably just realized that nobody would care
so
why not lol

[jaunty compass]

That would be great if they didn't intentionally design the phones to make replacing the battery as hard as possible

[dreamy rose]

the iPhone 6 i was running around 2020 was shit slow and i hated every minute of it. people say "It should be running iOS 11 fine" clear bullshit becaise it did not

[long briar]

yea my S6 edge from that era doesn't work anymore

[jaunty compass]

People who say that it should run fine are on the cope train

The iPhone that is

[tall wedge]

and honestly I don't think many people do
yeah, it's ugly and stupid but at the end of the day I think it has impacted me a total of once, in an app that abuses the menu bar, otherwise I literally don't notice it

[long briar]

Full system crashes, the SOC overheats, pink lines of death, the headphone jack no longer works

[full fossil]

ni

[stray apex]

yes
a 2014 android would also be shit slow

[full fossil]

i had an iphone se (5s body with 6s internals) and it ran just fine

[long briar]

My S6 edge from 2015 is straight up broken.

and not because of me

[dreamy rose]

they said it was cause of the Battery being Aftermarket. bullshit

[tall wedge]

everything is shit slow

the internet was a good experiment but i think it's time to shut it down

[long briar]

Just get a new phon- sry that's the apple mental state just install custom ro- oh wait that's fucking impossible on some phones and takes hours for most others

[dreamy rose]

the new ones are just the 8 but cheaper.

[stray apex]

just go to xdadevelopers and hope that someone has figured out how to unlock your phone

[jaunty compass]

How about manufacturers don't design their devices to be worthless in a year

[long briar]

still takes forever to install custom bootloader and flash a new os

[dreamy rose]

So. fuck you if you purchased the iPhone 8

[long briar]

yea, how's that pixel 2 holding up in value

[full fossil]

the new SE? no it's actually iphone 11 but cheaper

[tall wedge]

custom roms was painful even on phones that were intended for that usage - i had the nexus 4, 5, 5x, then pixel 1 and custom roms, though necessary to provide any meaningful performance, were not worth the hassle

[full fossil]

don't know about the SE3

[long briar]

you know why iPhone resale value is sm higher than androids?

[jaunty compass]

Idk, don't plan on selli it

It still works just fine so I was gonna keep it

[stray apex]

ah yes
why is your six year old phone old now

[dreamy rose]

the 2020 was

[jaunty compass]

The name

[long briar]

wait jesus a kid 6 years old can speak and run...

[stray apex]

why can't a six year old phone?

[long briar]

Because it's a phone

[full fossil]

they will someday (insert ai nonsense here)

[dreamy rose]

a 6 year old can phone.

[stray apex]

six year old can phones still work just as well as they did day one

[long briar]

if you ever revisit childhood memories even if the environment is the exact same it'll feel worse

why? because you're old and are accustomed to the new stuff

but when you were a child you probably thought it was the nicest things ever

[jaunty compass]

Software updates no longer exist, apparently

Those are a myth

[stray apex]

what's really weird is going back to places you grew up in and seeing how small everything is

[dreamy rose]

i can still go back to KDE 3.5 perfectly fine

[long briar]

oh wait half this server is 13 years IFG

[long briar]

yea the stove we had in China is a lot shorter than I remembered

much much shorter

but then so are my grandparents and relatives so

[full fossil]

my android experience involves a single security update and nothing else for the lifetime of the phone

[kindred coral]

That is true

[stray apex]

as a pixel owner, my android experience involves things inexplicably breaking and/or working

[long briar]

same goes for windows

Alt tab still broken

[tall wedge]

lmao yes 100%

[long briar]

autohide taskbar when it's on dual screens also still broken

[tall wedge]

they copied that trait from the nexus lineup

[long briar]

Nexus was fun

the Nexus 5 was a tank tho

[full fossil]

why do i hear the most broken android phones are the first party ones (pixel/nexus)

[stray apex]

because google isn't really a hardware company

[tall wedge]

it was indeed, but the random failures were a little much

[long briar]

I mean I was just talking about my S6 edge earlier

[tall wedge]

they weren't even produced by google - htc, LG

[long briar]

Samsung pink lines of death

[tall wedge]

maybe someone else? can't remember

[long briar]

motorola, huawei

[kindred coral]

Htc is ded trash

[long briar]

for the 6 and 6x(?)

[stray apex]

what does htc even do

[tall wedge]

now? nothing

[full fossil]

motorola aka the free phone that is included with your cell service

[long briar]

no that's SKY

[kindred coral]

My Motorola works almost great
But probably took the wrong one

[stray apex]

jesus
HTC's front page is the vive VR headset
how poorly are they doing

[long briar]

or alcatel who owns naming rights to nokia

[kindred coral]

In phone category it was totally a catastrophe

[stray apex]

what the fuck is this

[tall wedge]

they have a quest pro competitor out soon I believe, it looked pretty interesting as far as features go

[long briar]

nexus 6p (premium) was huawei, 6 was motorola

[kindred coral]

My mom had one, was trash lol
And everyone's been trashing on it

[full fossil]

get this new motorola E6 now free with your cricket/metroPCS/visible cell service! will be the slowest phone you've ever used, 100% guaranteed

[long briar]

Doubt it

[stray apex]

yeah, but the VR market is tiny compared to what they used to do

[long briar]

the local ones here give this brand https://skydevices.com/

[full fossil]

i have one. it can't even run android go without having the launcher taking about a full 5 seconds to load

[tall wedge]

true, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's dead

not that I trust HTC to revive what remains

[stray apex]

sure, but they really don't seem to be doing much

[tall wedge]

and facebook... facebook sucks at making software that is usable by humans

[stray apex]

they seem to have given up on competing on the current market in favor of trend chasing

they're making a blockchain phone and the metaverse?

[full fossil]

if you have the snapdragon 4xx/6xx ones, it's fine. if you have the mediatek ones.... you might as well be using a feature phone

[long briar]

https://skydevices.com/portfolio/sky-prestige/
this one has a go OS and takes... 10 second to unlock

[tall wedge]

(blockchain phone?)

[long briar]

Mediatek has some good ones tho

[full fossil]

lol i have an RCA Voyager Pro (mt8192)and it can't even stream a video without lagging

360p is too much

[long briar]

streaming a video is actually quite demanding

doesn't matter now I have everything I want and need

I can't complain

[tall wedge]

anyways this was fun, let's do it again sometime @sterile nest

[kindred coral]

I have motorola moto g100, my phone is smooth as fuck
So idk...
But I'm not stupid to go with shitty stuff, so 870 snapdragon is mine

[full fossil]

yeah that's fine

you shouldn't have any issues, i'm referring specifically to the E series

[manic torrent]

except that it's mostly handled by dedicated hardware.

[kindred coral]

Oh... Well every brand has their "bad" series...

For iPhones is 12 and iPhone 7

[tall wedge]

6-8, 10, 12 honestly

[full fossil]

the x i think is a mess that even apple wanted to forget about a little bit

[full fossil]

Galaxy Note 7

the obvious choice

even at apple's lowest they've never had that happen

[kindred coral]

Oh I forgot about 6

6s and 8 don't have usual any issues

10 same

6 iPhone was bending due to very thin body, iPhone 7 had many faulty motherboards... (Charging or audio chip), iPhone 12 has faulty motherboards too, iPhone 12 Pro, their back cameras tends to die or do weird shit.
However overall 12 iPhone mini/Pro/normal have issues with battery

[novel tendon]

Don't buy the brand
Buy the phone

Like I have a poco f3
Which I bought for 250$
Its insane value but that doesn't mean F4 or F5 will be the same

[dreamy rose]

my parents did this on my phone. fuck the A11. turd of a thing

[ashen zodiac]

the iPhone 6 was also very bad

[full fossil]

iPhone X is the modern GOAT

[unkempt widget]

home button where?

[full fossil]

Gestures.

[unkempt widget]

they were there long before X right?

oh wait

i see what you're talking about

what if your screen froze (which happens all the time)

[full fossil]

Never had that issue.

Idk regardless of products I use I literally never encountered any issues with em.

Probably because I don't treat it like shit or something.

[kindred coral]

I was talking about concrete models

I'm not into Apple, I do own few but just as collection.

I'm Android user first and foremost. The iOS doesn't suit me

[dreamy rose]

iOS isnt as good as people think it is.

[tall wedge]

"iOS isnt as good as (i feel like i've been told)"

[minor rivet]

yo guys i got a 3.0 usb drive and my pc has 3.0 usb port

still the transfer speeds are slow(20-60mbps max)

is it normal or did acer just scam me

[full fossil]

normal

[ashen zodiac]

normal, you're limited by the flash in the usb stick not by the interface

USB 2 maxes out at 40MB/s so if you're getting 60, it's running at usb 3 speed for sure

[minor rivet]

oh okee

[kindred coral]

That's your personal opinion nobody asked for

[dreamy rose]

Said who?

its true. iOS is overrated

[wooden gate]

iOS is preferred by loads of people for a reason

im not saying its good but it obviously isnt overrated

[dreamy rose]

because they never used android and Gaslit themselves into believing Android is Hard

[wooden gate]

i mean 2/10 phones ive had are iPhone, and only reason im on android right now is because i cant justify spending that amount of something i drop daily. Android offers nothing to me that iOS doesnt

It all comes down to preference, and for some people status

[kindred coral]

True for you, we don't care about your truth.

The true truth is that each OS has it's advantages and disadvantages and it's up to user to choose what advantages and disadvantages is willing to accept.

That you don't accept disadvantages of iOS is just your own preference

[dreamy rose]

the Status part of Pro iPhone is such a Stupid point its laughable. all it tells you is that they have no idea what a Decent product is.

[kindred coral]

I don't accept disadvantages of iOS too, that's why I'm using Android. But iOS is overall good in some stuff

[summer folio]

1337 EU!

[wooden gate]

i mean no it tells you they care what others think about them

[kindred coral]

I was actually thinking you're not baka, but you visibly are

[dreamy rose]

well then they'd be happy to be angry when the truth comes to then that nobody gives a shit.

[kindred coral]

As nobody cares about your opinion

¯_(ツ)_/¯

And your "truth"

[wooden gate]

that's not true, only reason it is perceived as a social status is because some people think it is

[kindred coral]

Yup, pretty stupid and sad truth

[dreamy rose]

yeah. because mine Aligns with the Truth.

[kindred coral]

Opinion ≠ truth

Google what's opinion and come back later.

If it was so bad nobody would buy it

[dreamy rose]

i'm not stating an opinion. i'm stating the Truth

[kindred coral]

That's how it works, something hella bad dies... Just like Mobile Windows

And I'm queen of Great Britain

Not opinion, just fact

[dreamy rose]

the 4070 Ti is selling like Hotcakes and its a piece of shit.

[kindred coral]

Again, opinion

[dreamy rose]

just because it sells doesnt mean its good

[kindred coral]

It's usually good indicator tho

[wooden gate]

same logic applied, audi a3 is just a seat ibiza with a bigger price tag yet people buy the a3

sometimes people just like spending money

[kindred coral]

But for a reason even it may be a cringe reason

[wooden gate]

aye

we live in a society

[kindred coral]

Yup

[small zephyr]

always so absurd if my isp decides to give the acutal gigabit for once

was so confused why halo mcc is done in like 3minutes

till i realized ah right sometimes i actually get what i pay for

wait.... its only xbox app freaking out....

seemingly i cant play games while i play other games or it freakes out

[full fossil]

i will watch puss in boots again

[dreamy rose]

i will not watch puss in boots

[full fossil]

i will end u with Gatito Blade

[dreamy rose]

i dont refuse to. i just cant rn.

[full fossil]

why not?

[dreamy rose]

i cant go to a theater and fuck if any Free online thing works

[full fossil]

fuck online things XD dont spoil the movie for urself with that shit,
why are theaters closed?

[dreamy rose]

thry arent i'm just poor

[winter spindle]

im watching puss in boots today

I forgot the first one

but people say it doesnt matter

[full fossil]

should i delete windows.old

i want to free up some spaces

i have 3 windows

windows.old and windows in C drive

and then just one windows in F drive

[hollow pulsar]

Just use disk cleanup

[drowsy nexus]

I recently got a 3070 and I'm kind of amazed

[kindred coral]

They good indeed

[full fossil]

where is

disk cleanup

[hollow pulsar]

Right-click the drive and go to properties. It’s somewhere in there.

[full fossil]

oh

or just search it

in windows

Done!

now

should i delete the windows in F drive even if my files are there?

[nocturne basin]

best 240hz IPS monitor?

should i go for the AOC 24G2ZU/BK?

[mild elm]

Viewsonic xg2431

[nocturne basin]

wait i forgot to specify

[north wraith]

I had an idea for my uni library: instead of having computer work stations that nobody really uses since we all have laptops. Maybe turn some of them into usb c type docking stations for laptops so we can have multi monitor and keyboard? What do y’all think of that idea?

[nocturne basin]

1080p and NVDIA G Sync

[mild elm]

Viewsonic xg2431

[nocturne basin]

how much is it?

can't even buy it in switzerland

dam

[mild elm]

Next time say it

[nocturne basin]

is the AOC 24G2ZU good though?

oh wait heck nah 6 bit color depth

[mild elm]

https://www.alternate.ch/SAMSUNG/Odyssey-Gaming-G4-S25BG400EU-Gaming-Monitor/html/product/1857631

Good option

[nocturne basin]

too large

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/dell-s2522hg-1920-x-1080-pixels-2450-monitor-16212862

what about this?

[mild elm]

Both are 25 inches

[nocturne basin]

wait really?

oh right just realized

but it's not available :((

[north wraith]

I feel ya bro, last pc build I had to get a very specific sized panel for it (need to fit inside a bookshelf desk thing)

[full fossil]

dont feel me

wait ur a squid? maybe

[north wraith]

😏

[nocturne basin]

AYO WHAT

😳 what's going on?

[mild elm]

😳 😳

[north wraith]

The internet is doing internet stuff again

I was going to write “ I sympathize with you…” but that was harder to spell and stuffy sounding

[twilit tulip]

can anyone teach me how to do stock market or investing i wanna earn money after school since im close to grade 10

ill beg for a nice laptop on my bday ig

[north wraith]

Bruh

Just get a job

[full fossil]

go watch some youtube videos and dont think anyone who offers to teach you has any interest of yours at heart

they will rip you off

people pay advisors. people dont get advised for free

[north wraith]

I’m not trying to be a dick but that the best way to earn money. Stock market is full of scams and even if you make stuff you might get screwed on taxes

[full fossil]

and losses

[north wraith]

^

[twilit tulip]

oh

[full fossil]

youtube is actually probably a bad idea too

maybe some books

[north wraith]

When you have a job they will help you take care of more of the tax crap and you might get nice things like healthcare and stuff

[twilit tulip]

lmao i rlly dont know abt investing and stock market that much so i actually thought investing and stock market can get me money while sitting

[twilit tulip]

its hard to find a job when your 15

[north wraith]

You can but you need a lot of starting money

[storm coral]

Saved 900 USD with my brother,now my parents tell us that we can't buy anything with it and that they will take it "to save it for us since we are irresponsible" is this even legal lmfao

[full fossil]

it can but you need money

[twilit tulip]

or turning 15 to be specific

[full fossil]

to start so like your already out

[full fossil]

depends

[young bloom]

get job buy shack rent shack out

[full fossil]

how is it ur money and if it is legitamately ur money why did your parents have access to it

[north wraith]

Standard disclaimer: this is not a legal advice

[storm coral]

It's birthday and eid money we been saving since 3 years,and it's cash in a wallet in the closet,they just took it lmao

[winter spindle]

Just eat the money

[north wraith]

Yeah that a tricky time for sure. Their might still be some work out there if you know where to look.

[winter spindle]

More money more problems

[young bloom]

politician behavior

[full fossil]

you shouldnt leave money laying around

[twilit tulip]

Im turning 15 idek they hire someone 15 years old on a job like mcdonalds

[winter spindle]

“Mo money mo problems”
-Notorious B.I.G.

[north wraith]

Life lesson

[storm coral]

Where would I put it at 13

[full fossil]

i dont know or care im just telling you the reality

[young bloom]

then check and it doesnt have to be a corporation, small businesses might hire as well

[storm coral]

True,it's gone now so too late :/

[full fossil]

indeed

[twilit tulip]

i could search for one rn but ill have more problems because i have to think of how to work while doing school

[north wraith]

Hey at least you got mugged by your parents, better then some random stranger

[twilit tulip]

but thats life ig you have to do more than 1 thing

[storm coral]

There goes my 4 days of research

[young bloom]

you work saturday and friday

assuming you are in america

[storm coral]

I wont carry 900 usd soo

[north wraith]

You could always say “if you don’t give it back I’m going to make sure you end up in crappy nursing home in the future 😬”

(Don’t really say that)

[young bloom]

900 usd is the salary of ~5 months for the average egyptian

[storm coral]

I'm Jordanian

[north wraith]

(I think they mean in cash)

[young bloom]

that changes the entire story

[full fossil]

Is 4x8GB (32 GB RAM) considered dual channel or quad channel?

[young bloom]

listen to your parents or they hit you with shoe

[storm coral]

I'm not a horrible human being

[formal dew]

Thankies!!

Thank you!!

[storm coral]

Lmao

Is it only my parents? Apperently 96.9 in school isn't enough of a grade

[north wraith]

Yeah it was mostly a joke. Apart from this though are your parent mostly chill to deal with?

[storm coral]

Fuck no

[formal dew]

Sounds like some overbearing parents. Considering school is a load of crock (if you live in the US)

[young bloom]

no arab parent is chill, from my personal experience

[north wraith]

Ahh

Chill might not have been the right word

[storm coral]

I assume you meant us,trust me Jordanian school system is so shit,it's so memory dependant,nothing is understanding, not even math

[young bloom]

same in egypt

[formal dew]

Sorry, yes I did mean US. And yeah, that is how our schools are here too. They teach you to memorize not to learn.

[twilit tulip]

What is it called againwhen you can only work before school or after school?

[formal dew]

Work study?

[north wraith]

Part time?

[twilit tulip]

dont think thats the one

[storm coral]

This shit unfortunately won't change in our times

Knowing my luck the second I finish school it'll happen

[twilit tulip]

i think?

[small zephyr]

okay halo can piss off...

i tried to install 4 times already and it always only partly downloads it says its reading and im in infite loading screen

[north wraith]

Rip

[formal dew]

I have a lot of thoughts on how schools should be ran. But I have a feeling that crosses into Rule 4.

[north wraith]

Is that why they call it halo infinite?

[twilit tulip]

So a part time job is where you can work before going to school or after going to school?

[small zephyr]

its supposed to be halo masterchief collection tho

[storm coral]

I don't think it woild tbh

[north wraith]

Probably,

You might also see if there are jobs opportunities at your school too. There were a few when I was in HS but that was like 10 years ago so 😬

[storm coral]

Where was that video of Andrew tate where he explains money is useless if you" save" it

[formal dew]

Step one would be a much larger work force in the public school industry. I know for sure there are places the US could cut money from to get the funding from that. Such as the Defense Budget. And I bet that other nations have places they are over spending where they could better use the money for their education system. I support smaller class sizes, 2 teaches per class, and much more hands on learning. They would spend FAR less time at their desk under my system.

[winter spindle]

Halo 2 best halo

Infinite > reach

Infinite > 4,5

[north wraith]

Oh for future money hiding. I recommend getting a old book you don’t care about and gluing the pages together. Let it dry then cut out a section to store the cash.

[small zephyr]

infinite sucks

[winter spindle]

I’m tired of pretending halo infinite isn’t good

[small zephyr]

it make sno fucking sense in terms of story

[formal dew]

Hey, anyone here know their PSUs or should I take that over to Tech Chat?

[storm coral]

Agree with everything so far

[winter spindle]

I have over 100 hours on that game

[north wraith]

Probs tech chat

[winter spindle]

It’s so fun

[small zephyr]

you have the ending of halo 5 and then comes infinite

[winter spindle]

I never played 5

[formal dew]

Thankies!

[winter spindle]

I’ve seen gameplay and I know the plot

[small zephyr]

yeah but how did that happen did they come to the arc? and why did halo main story of halo now a kind of? continiuation of halo wars 2 story

it feels like they build halo infinite to make it free to play to be able to sell fucking battle passes

[winter spindle]

Mid take

[runic lagoon]

Ms trying to get that fort night money. 😂

[winter spindle]

It is a continuation of halo wars 2

[north wraith]

Well good luck with the job hunt Aikira, and sorry you parents mugged you HSB hopefully they add it to your college funds or something 😬

[storm coral]

Nice joke honestly

[small zephyr]

but even then tere a huuge hole with tf happen between wars 2 and infinite

[storm coral]

It's gone for bad

[small zephyr]

what happens to team lock etc

[winter spindle]

Idk

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ just too much missing

[winter spindle]

I guess

But it’s still fun game and I liked the story

[small zephyr]

its as confusing as first filming star wars 4 5 and 6 and then 1 2 and 3

[storm coral]

Hey,thank you atleast

[winter spindle]

No it’s not

[small zephyr]

star wars 4 is from 77 and 1 from 97

[winter spindle]

That’s the chronological order

[winter spindle]

I know

Just tell people to watch 4 5 6 first

That’s what I do

[small zephyr]

nah it makes no sense to start with em

[wise tundra]

We have 12 computers with specific software running on them. I was wondering what would be the best screen capture software that we could have share the screens of all the machines to one computer connected to a TV.

[storm coral]

My goal is to be this rich

[small zephyr]

because many things just wont make sense if you didnt watch 1,2 and 3 first

[winter spindle]

I watched 1 2 3 first but I rewatched og first then prequel

And it was better

[wise tundra]

Could OBS be handy for this?

[small zephyr]

i just watched 4,5 and 6 yesterday

and i still like 1, 2 and 3 more since they make more sense

[winter spindle]

5 is my favorite movie

[small zephyr]

i mean they have the weird movie end and new movie starts years after but not as bad in the og ones

i like 2 the most

[winter spindle]

💀

[small zephyr]

fuck storm troopers clone tropper were way cooler

[winter spindle]

It has amazing parts but it has amazingly shitty parts as well

[small zephyr]

and they didnt hit their heads on doors

[winter spindle]

I liked count dooku, jango parts and the clones

The rest was 💩

[small zephyr]

nah it explained what tf is going on with star wars

welp and translation was kinda issue in the og movies

[winter spindle]

Translation?

Oh well I guess thats an important issue for foreigners

[small zephyr]

yeah they called the light saber lichtschwert for example in 4 in 4 they called it laser schwert (word for sword(

or luke calls obi wan in 4 and 5 ben and in 6 suddenly obi wan

[winter spindle]

Oh

[small zephyr]

they werent as thought out in some cases and you can feel it

1,2 and 3 fit together better

[winter spindle]

Boba fett is the best character

Too bad his show is mid

[small zephyr]

how is boba fett the best he like got one or 2 lines almost never an screen and when you finaly see some of his action he instanly dies

never understood that hype i could understand jango fett but not boba

[winter spindle]

Because he’s cool

And menacing

[long briar]

Yesn't. It's more complicated than that

[full fossil]

ye

[small zephyr]

🤔 okay my hdd doesnt like to donwload while i want to play games xD

that makes the game go like 20frames per minute

[ember maple]

So if I nitrogen cool my pc since the temps will be lower and produce no heat on my components does that mean it will use less power even if overclocked but at negative Celsius ?

[small zephyr]

nitrogen cooling is not realy sustainable

it burns out realy fast

[mild elm]

How much money do you have

[ember maple]

If you put it upside it will use only gas ?

[ember maple]

€300 for nitrogen but I thought it will last for a long time

[crisp sedge]

What the heck happened to my tech support post?

[mild elm]

It won’t

Just get a regular cooler

[small zephyr]

it will last you like a couple days at max

[teal estuary]

Technically yes, but not a significant amount.

[small zephyr]

for one run of cinnebench you take around 1 liter

[ember maple]

Ok

Will the nitrogen evaporate

Even if I use nitrogen gas ?

[teal estuary]

Less power at the same settings

Because lower resistance

That said, bad idea for reasons besides cost

[ember maple]

Ok but if I overclock the hell out of my components and use nitrogen it will have a better performance?

[mild elm]

Yes but why

[small zephyr]

🤨 uninstaller that force redirect to their websites should be illegal

you dont uninstall for no reason

[ember maple]

For fun

[ember maple]

How big of a difference in performance?

[gilded plinth]

Depends

[ember maple]

Better performance?

[ember maple]

Gpu and cpu bound games

[mild elm]

Depends on what you do to it

[night heron]

ln2 is very short lived

[mild elm]

But don’t

[small zephyr]

🤨 go watch the ltt oveclock video

[ember maple]

I have

[small zephyr]

then you should basicly know

[teal estuary]

Again, yes, but not significant enough to warrant it unless you are doing overclocking that will kill your components sooner rather than later

[graceful burrow]

If you aren't overclocking, cooling better it won't inherently make it perform faster, since it likely isn't thermal throttling already

[ember maple]

These will be overclocked

[graceful burrow]

If you are overclocking, then you'll have to actually do it to see how much performance you can get out of it, we can't know, every chip is different

[ember maple]

Ok

[mild elm]

Adonis is just better at explaining everything

[ember maple]

Lol

[small zephyr]

nitrogen overclocking is basicly just for the hardware not to burn down since the clocks they get overclocked to would prob litterally set em on fire if not for sub zero

[ember maple]

But since they are low temps they will last longer ?

[small zephyr]

no

[graceful burrow]

No

[ember maple]

Even if OC to the last

[mild elm]

No

[ember maple]

Ok I guess

[small zephyr]

i think sub zero em would actually make em last less long i think

[ember maple]

Alr

[small zephyr]

its usually not good for electronics to have sub zero temps

they didnt smear vasiline over the board for nothing\

[oak bolt]

Smash isnt a fighting game its a survival game

[graceful burrow]

It's a hunting game if you're good enough

[small zephyr]

urgh i dont know if its ea or xbox app fault but its a fucking nightmare to download ea play games with gamepass on pc

and why do i need to dowanload the whole stupid massefect install just to play 1 and 2

[winter spindle]

Yeah it’s so bad

I tried downloading crysis

[small zephyr]

guess i fishing my disks out

[winter spindle]

The only way to run it is to set the compatibility to vista and run the exe every time

EA sucks

[full fossil]

guys what is the best mouse?

for fps games

[small zephyr]

cant say

[graceful burrow]

G502

[small zephyr]

everyone has their own preferences

[full fossil]

waht about the g903

[graceful burrow]

Gross.

[full fossil]

why?

[small zephyr]

dont bullshit one cant say this or that mouse is the best

[graceful burrow]

Hur dur bigger number better
G502 >

[small zephyr]

everyone should try mice emself and see if they like it or not

[thick fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-HKYkWlvw&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

[mild elm]

Wrong

[small zephyr]

an mouse doesnt impact your gaming skill

[full fossil]

i dont care about the price

[mild elm]

Depends

[full fossil]

whats the best performing mice,

[mild elm]

I would do Pulsar X2 Mini

[graceful burrow]

It's the g502

[mild elm]

No it’s not

[graceful burrow]

It is

Sorry

[mild elm]

I hate the shape

[full fossil]

g502 is just the popular one, but does it outperform the gprowireless?#

[mild elm]

But that’s for bbc to decide

[graceful burrow]

It performs the same as the gpro
I think they have the same sensor and wireless tech

[mild elm]

Pulsar X2 Mini is $95, usbc, 52 grams

[full fossil]

i have a offbrand mouse that's the same shape as the g502

like the widebody shape, and a few days ago i tried another mouse with a more narrow shape

[deft folio]

https://youtu.be/qpMvS1Q1sos this song is like million years old but still is relatable to this day

[thick fjord]

I have the g502 lightspeed which is pretty amazing.

[full fossil]

i liked the narrow one better,

[small zephyr]

i swear i hate ea so much right now

[granite meteor]

hey guys

[small zephyr]

i try to login cant password wrong i change it try to loggin again

[granite meteor]

is there any motion sensor input device for PC games?

[small zephyr]

i set my password to fuckyouea it works....

[granite meteor]

i know there's kinect

its only for xbox right

[full fossil]

is there a performance difference between the g502 and the g903 (apart from the shape)

[deft folio]

What's your login?

[granite meteor]

should i really buy vr just for that?

[deft folio]

There's ways to use it with pc

[small zephyr]

its only a secondary gamepass account but i wont give it lmao im not dumb

[deft folio]

You can even play Gmod with it

[granite meteor]

hmm do u think vr better or a kinect is better? I hate the idea sticking screen to my face..

[deft folio]

I was kidding

[small zephyr]

and its fucking wrong again tf ea

[graceful burrow]

What are you even using it for man

[granite meteor]

just gaming

[graceful burrow]

In what games

[granite meteor]

waanna keep fit

idk yet.. haven't buy any of them

[graceful burrow]

Idk any game on windows that natively supports a kinect

[granite meteor]

i wish to have motion sensing game that would be nice like kinect

[graceful burrow]

I know many that support a generic vr headset

[thick fjord]

I believe it's pretty much the same but the g903 is not wireless and doesn't come with a snipe button which sets the dpi to 400 very handy for long range shooting which the g502 has.

[full fossil]

i dont need the snipe button and the g903 is wireless

[thick fjord]

Wait I'm wrong the g903 is wireless

[granite meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hLmf_ND-SA

[thick fjord]

Yes sorry your riight but otherwise it's similar according to this website I'm looking at now.
https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/logitech-g903-lightspeed-vs-logitech-g502-lightspeed/1613/1804?usage=8876&threshold=0.10

[granite meteor]

ohh this guy did exactly what i want

[novel geyser]

Good mouse

[full fossil]

i play csgo so i dont think the g502 is gonna be better

[graceful burrow]

L decision tbh
You'll regret it

[granite meteor]

kinect can play vr games! wow!

[full fossil]

nobody uses a g502 tho

nobody uses it for csgo***

[ember maple]

Which would perform better with performance and latency?
All components below in a basement cooled with a wall of fans at 6k rpm or hydrogen cooling (Idc about how long the components life will be as it’s a test) all OC to the max even fans
4090
3.825GHz
13900k
9GHZ
Trident Z5
8,705MHz

[full fossil]

g pro wireless all the way but i wanna konw if g903 is any better or worse

[graceful burrow]

Everyone who plays csgo got weak forearms confirmed

[full fossil]

HAHA, i have weak forearms

[night heron]

me when my mouse weighs 1/6 of a g502

[full fossil]

can i program on of the buttons to spam

like on my current mouse, i have this button when i click once and it acts like i clicked 3 times

so im the best at cookieclicker

It's everywhere.

Don't take it personally.

is full of them too.

They commited severe admin abuse too already.

The owner of the server is even a compared to me.

[graceful burrow]

Homie I appreciate the effort but can you take your discount ARG somewhere else

[full fossil]

🤨

[dire roost]

would a 240mm AIO be enough for ryzen 5700x?

[graceful burrow]

Yeah

[full fossil]

Dude, even air cooled is plenty enough.

Unless you plan on doing very serious gaming, computations, mining, or otherwise.

[dire roost]

im trynna keep it as cool as possible, i do a lot of heavy rendering with blender

[full fossil]

The 240 is plenty.

[dire roost]

aight bet, thanks

[full fossil]

ok i bought the g903 for £80

I have a 360MM with a push~pull 6 fan setup for the radiator alone.

[dire roost]

jesus

[trim ore]

Guys, I bought a new optiplex 9020 sff but when I power it on it beeps

1, 3, 2 then the power light blinks orange. Anyone able to help?

[full fossil]

@graceful burrow 1v1 me when my mouse arrives

[graceful burrow]

The manual is able to help

[trim ore]

Don't have it

[graceful burrow]

Sure, quake 1 deathmatch

[dire roost]

but its new

[graceful burrow]

you're on the internet

[trim ore]

Mobile

[graceful burrow]

find it

[jaunty basin]

damn

[full fossil]

why not cs

[gilded plinth]

quake is better

[graceful burrow]

If you wanna death match we go OG

[full fossil]

never heard of quake in my life

[jaunty basin]

haven't seen a more "mobile" excuse

[full fossil]

Three monitors attached, an RTX 2080, Ryzen 7 5700G, 32 GB of 3200 MHZ DDR4 RAM. Yeah....

[graceful burrow]

Without quake, counter strike wouldn't exist

I don't even say that as a meme, source engine is an extension of the quake engine

[dire roost]

a series of tubes

this is the first time im getting new pc parts to futureproof for a game its pretty exciting

[ember maple]

Which would perform better with performance and latency?
All components below in a basement cooled with a wall of fans at 6k rpm or hydrogen cooling (Idc about how long the components life will be as it’s a test) all OC to the max even fans
4090
3.825GHz
13900k
9GHZ
Trident Z5
8,705MHz

Anyone able to estimate ?

[jaunty basin]

i'm too stupid so i'll just say the 13900k

[ember maple]

What?? That’s not even the question…

[dire roost]

im guessing the 4090 but im stupid too

[ember maple]

Not the question again

Yes , fans or nitrogen

[jaunty basin]

oh dude

[dire roost]

hyrdogen im guessing

[gilded plinth]

explodes

[jaunty basin]

nitrogen

[dire roost]

yes that

as mention before, im stupid

[jaunty basin]

friends in stupidity 🤝

[dire roost]

🤝

[mild elm]

Return it

It’s not great lol

[full fossil]

why?

[mild elm]

It’s heavy, big, impractical

All the things you don’t want in an fps shooter mouse

[dire roost]

i prefer heavier mouses

[full fossil]

this

[full fossil]

g903 is big?

yall where saying g502 is better lmao

[mild elm]

Check this out! https://a.co/d/6422ykX

Or just get a g pro x supalite

[jaunty basin]

damn 56g

[long briar]

liquid oxygen obv

[mild elm]

52

[jaunty basin]

im rocking the same dell office mouse from 8 years

[long briar]

but srsly ln2 is as close to ready to reach 0k as we have

[stable birch]

Anyone watch this dumpster fire of a video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSp0bm_g1e4

[jaunty basin]

this shit has been with me since windows 8.1

[dire roost]

ive got a cheap ass trust gaming mouse, but it started to double click sometimes and its all greasy so i bought the newer version, didnt like it as much so i just cleaned the old one

[mild elm]

You want to get 9ghz on a 13900k?

[ember maple]

I will make the question more clear sorry for the misunderstanding ;

Which would perform better with performance and latency while all components below are in a basement cooled with :

a wall of fans at 6k rpm
or
hydrogen cooling
(Idc about how long the components life will be as it’s a test)
all OC to the max even case fans to 4k rpm

Specs after OC
4090
3.825GHz
13900k
9GHZ
Trident Z5
8,705MHz

[mild elm]

You still won’t get 9ghz

[graceful burrow]

Hydrogen now can you stop asking

[gilded plinth]

hydrogen cooling?
this is hydrogen cooling

[ember maple]

Alr

[dire roost]

thats hydrogen booming

[ember maple]

It is possible because it has been done

Asus did it

[mild elm]

If you think some fans will do better than hydrogen cooling, you won’t get very far

But good luck!

[ember maple]

I didn’t

[mild elm]

With your non-binned cpu

[white fractal]

You don't want to use hydrogen. Also, if this setup is supposed to be used for any useful period of time, the liquid nitrogen route won't work because you will need a ridiculous amount of it (since it is the phase change from liquid to gas that is doing all the cooling).

[dire roost]

what is even the point really you already have the pinnacle set of components why go balls to the walls OC

[jaunty basin]

destroy your electricity bill

[ember maple]

Or nitrogen

[white fractal]

You can't cool down to those extreme temps with just nitrogen or hydrogen gas... that's not how it works

In fact, nitrogen and hydrogen gas will be /worse/ at absorbing heat because they are less dense gases

[ember maple]

But I will burn them

[gilded plinth]

Don't?

[ember maple]

Remember LTT vid of burning it at the end

[white fractal]

Did.... you understand how the propane cooled the system?

[ember maple]

Yeah it’s flipped upside so it uses gasses

Nitrogen gas

[white fractal]

I think you need to re-watch that video

[ember maple]

Alr but I understand the main point , it uses gas then it needs to be burned out ect

[gilded plinth]

Are you like
considering doing that?

[ember maple]

No

[white fractal]

no.. it doesn't use gas. It uses the liquid propane,which undergoes a phase change that removes heat as the liquid is changed to a gas, and the gas is burned away for a visual effect

Like, /literally/ how LN2 cooling works.