public-chat

[wanton glade]

one of them was like "when I become president I will force every single arab person to change names to a more "French" name" the motherfucker was Algerian himself 💀

[balmy lotus]

💀what

[wanton glade]

fucking whack

I swear to God bro, there is no joke nor exaggeration. Go check on "Eric Zemour"

Zemour in Algerian arabic means olive tree

and then there's that gal, marine lepen, racist who won't hide it. And some other weirdos. 💀 💀 💀

Goofy ahh country, this shit be looking worse than Ohio

[balmy lotus]

What about gasly and ocon family from f1

[wanton glade]

idk bro

Alr enough politics, back to talking about tech. I'll be getting a asus rog g15 when I graduate, good laptop :D

[balmy lotus]

Nice

[wanton glade]

damn I got oneshot by some deer on Horizon

[full fossil]

fun fact, my gpu is out of date. Bye.

[thorny helm]

Falafel tooo

[wanton glade]

oh shit, I just realised something.

I'm burned out.

took me long enough 😅 💀

[wanton glade]

F

[sonic barn]

I need a tablet for mainly math (as a notebook sort of). I have these options:

• Lenovo thinkpad x1 tablet gen 2 231$ cad (5hrs around battery life)
• Surface go 2 (10 hours)
• Samsung tablet S6 Lite (7.5 hours)
• Lenovo P11 Pro 2021 (8 hours)

[full fossil]

A base ipad

[vapid smelt]

But they want a bad tablet not a good one

[sterile sonnet]

elo

[full fossil]

Ngl the only good player in the midrange tablet space is apple, everything else is trash

[sonic barn]

that's treason

then I need to get the ipad pencil which is expensive

200$

[full fossil]

The pencil is $99 tops

Why do you need a stylus

[sonic barn]

math

[fast elm]

I got the Surface Go 2, I like it. I put Linux on it so I could have fun by achieving nothing trying to get it to work with marginally supported hardware it wasnt designed for.

but other than that, its a cool tablet, good battery life

[sonic barn]

does drawing work on it

[fast elm]

yeah I belive so, its got stylus support and all that

[sonic barn]

no latency

[full fossil]

Lol

That’s funny

[fast elm]

tbh mine didnt come with a stylus , I got it off ebay, so I havnt tested it, but I know its got a magnetic holder for one and the surface app built into it mentions stylus stuff

[full fossil]

You’re a funny guy

[sonic barn]

its a question

[full fossil]

i finally got unlazy enough to fill my loop on my gpu since playing anything was making it gurggle
it was so empty :kek:

The only tablet with non noticeable stylus latency is the ipad pro

that looks... good

everything is going to be noticeable

[sonic barn]

but apple is dumb

I used ios before and hated it

hate the ux/ui

[full fossil]

Sounds like a you problem

[sonic barn]

hate the appstore

hate having no files

[full fossil]

In the high end tablet space yeah there’s load of good options
Midrange? Android tablets suck major ass

[sonic barn]

onedrive sucks in ios

[full fossil]

Then get a device with windows

[fast elm]

I mean, if all your using it for is drawing and math, its not as if Ios will get in your way

its only when you want to get into the weeds that Apple becomes the fun police

[full fossil]

(To be fair file management is trash on ios ngl)

[sonic barn]

yes

the x1 tablet is my main choice however its old

[full fossil]

But it’s not much better on android gonna be honest

[sonic barn]

I could replace everything though

[fast elm]

idk if thinkpad tablets have the same rep as their laptops, because they have the reputation for being indestructible

[lament willow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984244618046636033/1066459813174845510/015EB829-0D08-4A4A-AABC-40B868BEAE18.jpg

[graceful burrow]

epic embed fail

[lament willow]

bruh

[graceful burrow]

anti-canadian bot

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984244618046636033/1066459813174845510/015EB829-0D08-4A4A-AABC-40B868BEAE18.jpg

[lament willow]

sad

BRUH

[vapid smelt]

Fake flags

[fossil frost]

had powertoys installed for a while, but didnt know about "Run"... now one of my favourite things about power toys 😄

[graceful burrow]

hey guys look at the flags i made

[lament willow]

heck I ordered it on the government website

[graceful burrow]

cant you get a free picture of the queen if you live in canada or something

[vapid smelt]

But it's a fake place

[full fossil]

Hello human people

I’m the creeper. Catch me if you can

[fast elm]

thats quite the assumption

[wind pulsar]

Why do that if you can just mail a Canadian embassy in country xy and ask for a flag and the chance they actually give it to you is relatively high, lol

[full fossil]

Am I incorrect?

[lament willow]

100 year wait

[fast elm]

well im human, but I cant speak for others here 😛

[graceful burrow]

slightly yeah

am i human if i have a battery powering me

[lament willow]

for the parliament hill flag

[full fossil]

What sets a human on a keyboard appart from a machine?

[fast elm]

cyborg

[full fossil]

Cause your in ICU dawg

[lament willow]

$15 shipping

[graceful burrow]

im sitting at my desk right now very comfortably

[full fossil]

Rip

[wind pulsar]

Aldo is cyborg, yes yes

[full fossil]

I flew a plane into a swamp today

[winter spindle]

That better be in a game

[full fossil]

Pog

[fast elm]

msfs?

[full fossil]

flight sim

[jaunty compass]

3d scan guy came through

Kinda

It was too small for him to get a proper scan but the one he did get should be usable

LWC on printables, you rock

[graceful burrow]

what were you 3d scanning

[jaunty compass]

Part of the steam deck's trigger mechanism

I want to make a custom dual stage trigger mod for the deck that adds a tactile click at the end

So I can have basically perfect GameCube emulation

And because I really like buttons with tactile clicks

The ps Vita dpad is my favorite dpad just for that

[slate tulip]

according to Doctor Who, it's your emotions and imagination that make you human ;)

[graceful burrow]

that's not rad and cool tho

[slate tulip]

ah, well fair

[graceful burrow]

does it at least make me a cyborg on a technicality

[slate tulip]

sure! Why not?

[graceful burrow]

[slate tulip]

as in D&D - rule of cool

[sour silo]

I got tracking info around 5 days ago and it doesn’t seem USPS got the package, is this normal? For screwdriver.

[jaunty compass]

https://media.printables.com/media/conversations/6c/d0e315-2c43-41bb-bf2e-fcb4f3f6119b/thumbs/cover/240x240/png/triggerbase.webp

it's this piece i got a 3d scan of

the scan however
doesn't have any depth really

[graceful burrow]

it's a good start if you've got calipers then

[jaunty compass]

In theory, i might not even need calipers
my original plan was to make a replacement piece that i'd swap out

however, what i can do is make an adapter piece

it would require less modification to the deck

[sour silo]

There might be a public model of it

[jaunty compass]

nope

trust me, I checked

that's why i reached out to this guy; because i knew he

1. had a steam deck
2. had a 3d scanner
3. was willing to take apart the deck and scan it

because he was the one who 3d scanned a trigger button to make custom ones

so i reached out to this guy on the printables forum

this guy has done quite a few models including the "cyberdeck"

https://media.printables.com/media/prints/272974/images/2427817_c1bab87d-6a7b-42ad-b0e8-264194027c5b/thumbs/cover/640x480/jpg/img_20220907_214443.webp

https://media.printables.com/media/prints/272974/images/2456582_9eccbfe1-f025-447d-b414-c067d5e46c44/thumbs/cover/640x480/jpg/img_20220915_180220.webp

[graceful burrow]

the only cad model of it is one of like, the entire unit, no internals or anything :(

[molten drift]

I wish I could find a case similar to the s frame. No luck sadly.

[fossil frost]

is that the fireplace one you shared yesterday?

[molten drift]

No the sframe is more majestic and expensive

It's by inwin and almost a decade old

Ild post an image of the case but no img perms.

[molten drift]

https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/S-Frame

[fossil frost]

looks pretty cool. looks very form over function, or at least, form came first and function was pushed onto it later

[molten drift]

It's designed as a water-cooling build from what I noticed and for 4x 2.5 inch ssd's it shows it's age ...

[slate tulip]

@fossil frost @molten drift how goes today?

[molten drift]

Working...

[slate tulip]

on a weekend? What do you do?

[molten drift]

Medicare customer service

[slate tulip]

Ah, fun times

[molten drift]

And yes we're open 7 days a week

[plush quarry]

Hello everyone

[slate tulip]

[plush quarry]

What are some tech videos you are interested in

[full fossil]

hi

[slate tulip]

I don't watch any, so idk

[fast elm]

I like deep dives into niche topics that alienate 99% of people because they are so boring.

[slate tulip]

are you looking to learn something in particular? I'm a big fan of

1. reading the manuals/wikis/documentation
2. doing - I have a homelab with 10Gb/s network and a couple racks full of gear. Virtualize stuff and learn how to use it

[fast elm]

like, the history of RAM chips used on a Commodore 64 or something

[keen shore]

Angry LCD noises

So much screen and so little fun

[slate tulip]

ugh, this is so tempting. I really shouldn't spend so much... but it's such a good deal Competing 24-port 10GbE switches are twice that, or more.
https://www.streakwave.com/mikrotik-crs326-24s-2q-rm-cloud-router-switch-2x40gb-24x10gb

[keen shore]

A technical person! A technical person...
Can I ask to ask... about :
What is the best solution on Linux for a low level disk copy or partition copy.
I would like to clone two small partitions exactly as they are sitting

I'm currently looking at DD but I've seen that it doesn't pick up absolutely everything

[slate tulip]

$600 gets you 12 SFP+ ports from Ubiquiti, and they have less features

low level disk copy
dd is the linux tool for this

but I've seen that it doesn't pick up absolutely everything
never ran into that

[plush quarry]

i want to create some computer shit

like videos for my youtube channel

[fast elm]

professionally, to make money? to get loads of views? or just for fun

because I suspect theres a venn where they meet thats hard to achieve

[slate tulip]

as I mentioned here before - anyone can create random videos on technical shit. I can do that. The real skills are in editing the videos so that people enjoy them and find them easy to watch, marketing them so people know they exist, getting people to want to watch them after they know they exist, etc.

that's the sort of thing that no amount of technical skill will teach you how to do effectively

[fast elm]

only the mystical greybeards of clickbait mountain have the forbidden knowledge

[keen shore]

I am now tracing my fingers through the subculture of data forensics so that I may perform the backup / Imaging process that serves my needs best. ( not to imply that my needs are well defined, 'simply best/ lowest copy' is of course arbitrary)

[keen shore]

Did anyone else misread this as Mountain love instead of mountain have

[slate tulip]

🎶 Mountain Love, driving me mad. Driving me crazy!

[fast elm]

you can love the greybeards on the mountain if you want, theres no rule against it 😛

[hollow pulsar]

Clonezilla

[plush quarry]

i personally edit videos for clients

[slate tulip]

Would cost a pretty penny, but I'm considering just replacing all my network switches, etc. with MikroTik - looks like it would come out to about $900. There's something nice about heterogenity, but also, knowing how to manage an environment with HP, Extreme, Brocade, Cisco, etc. is useful from a business perspective

[slate tulip]

well that's a great start :)

I didn't mean to discourage you, only to lend perspective - a lot of people think "oh, so and so makes technical videos, I know tech stuff!" but they only see the content of the videos, not the work that goes on behind the scenes to make them sucessful

[barren galleon]

yo can ik why phones still come with non uninstallable radios?

[slate tulip]

because wifi and cell phone service operate via radio waves

[barren galleon]

im referring to the app

[slate tulip]

oh, no clue

[fossil frost]

because there has never been any reason to remove it... it works, enough people use it to make it worth being there

[barren galleon]

but why is it not uninstallable

[fossil frost]

ask your phone manufacturer

[slate tulip]

I mean - that probably depends on the phone and the provider. I wouldn't assume ALL radio apps are uninstallable

[barren galleon]

there's no reason for it to not be uninstallable

im on Samsung

[fossil frost]

good for you

[barren galleon]

why

im literally selling my phone rn to buy pixel 7

[fossil frost]

which will also have a radio app on it, that you cant remove, because the phone manufacturer put it in the vendor directory

[barren galleon]

It won't

i checked

also I've only noticed it on phones with a headphone jack because it needs wired headphones to work

[eager venture]

How do I uninstall all my graphics drivers and reinstall them

[barren galleon]

Ddu

[fossil frost]

why does it bother you?

[plush quarry]

thanks

i know what you meant, ik its hard to make a good tech youtube channel

[barren galleon]

it bothers me because it's an unwanted app that I can't use

waste of storage and screen space

[fossil frost]

yet you bought a samsung, and that describes most of the apps

[plush quarry]

considering that none of the big tech companies sponser any of my videos

[fossil frost]

yep, all 50-60kb of it

[barren galleon]

yes i need that

[barren galleon]

not like i had much of a choice

[fossil frost]

if you are buying a pixel 7, you had something comparable to that before... so no.. no you didnt need that

[barren galleon]

i have a Samsung a72

[fossil frost]

128gb of storage... and you are complaining about 1 app that takes up less than 100kb...

[barren galleon]

mainly the fact it's there and that i can't make my app screen the way i want is bothering me

[fossil frost]

0.00007813% of your storage...

[barren galleon]

though I just remembered i can use adb to force uninstall it

[fossil frost]

you could also mark it as disabled

[barren galleon]

im using 40gb out of 128gb

[fossil frost]

so... far less than its capacity? where the 100kb means absolutely nothing, and you probably have more than 100kb used up to store your search history locally

[barren galleon]

lmao fair

it's still gonna bother me for some reason

tbh it's been bothering me since Samsung Galaxy s2

[fossil frost]

the point is... just ignore it, it doesnt matter and isnt worth even thinking about

[night heron]

thats not how a linux/android user's brain works

[fossil frost]

yep.. "lets force remove this thing thats been marked as unable to be removed, without knowing why its been marked that way, and hopefully it wont be a package that hosts some core functionality"

[night heron]

there must be no bloat

there must be as little ram usage as possible

[manic torrent]

"more things on storage == slower computerer"

[fossil frost]

why? i paid for that ram, i want to use it

[night heron]

i agree

im just saying that's not how some extreme user's brains work

[manic torrent]

ram? why would it be running

[night heron]

theyll have 32gb of ram and be mad that theyre using 600mb at idle instead of 400mb

the install must be as absolutely minimal as possible even if there's no perceivable performance difference

[fossil frost]

on a real, big boy computer... i couldnt give any less of a shit 🙂 ... but that is literally what i did on my pi zero 2 the other day. installed ubuntu server, and even though its already quite minimal, removed a bunch of stuff i give zero fucks about

[night heron]

yeah im the same way

i dont ever think about how much ram im using or how many processes are running in the background on my main pc

within reason of course

[fossil frost]

yeah, was gonna say... zero fucks until something feels fishy... then i get my fishing rod out 😄

[night heron]

if i can tell something is wrong i get pissed but im never gonna lose sleep over 100mb of ram

ill have to steal your fishing rod next time that happens

[fossil frost]

what i do is, if i see something fishy... i figure out how fishy it is... and if it ends up being a fish that needs removing... i get my fishing rod and... smack the shit out of the fish with the big end of the rod 😄

my most recent fish was... i started getting packet drops and connection drops in online games, and losing packets in streams too... been trying for weeks to figure out what it was... THEN... my fiance started getting similar issues when logged into her work VPN on the laptop... and my oldest son was getting similar issues when playing online.... so realised it wasnt an individual machine having the issue.... took me just over 2 weeks to remember i installed a new router, and that router was utter shite

[wind pulsar]

[fossil frost]

swapped the router today... immediately got a much lower ping in games, and getting more of my bandwidth available to me too, and had zero drops since

[fossil frost]

what? isnt that how you catch fish?

[slate tulip]

Nice! what router?

[fossil frost]

replaced a cheapo tenda router with a new-old-stock dlink dir2660 as a stopgap until i see a decent one that can handle 2.5gbit

[polar fern]

Mhm.

[slate tulip]

Nice. Have you messed with MikroTik yet? Been pleased with them. Running them for my 10Gb network and no issues (that weren't user error)

[sonic barn]

my cat likes taking up the mouse space, I need help

[fossil frost]

you need a fishing rod

[polar fern]

Replaced the headlight in my girlfriend’s car today. Stopped by a stuck screw in a recessed area.

[sonic barn]

or it just sleeps on the keyboard

[polar fern]

Still in the process of putting the screws back in the bumper

[wind pulsar]

I usually forgive my cat because she just sits there and sleeps, being cute as fuck

[fossil frost]

whole unit, or bulbs?

[polar fern]

Whole thing

About to chuck the bumper into a creek but it’s coming along. Probably another 2 hours of fumbling in the dark

[fossil frost]

ah ok... had to do that with mine a few months ago, and yeah what a pain in the anus it was when i found out that i had to remove the bumper to do it...

[polar fern]

Stuck screw ate up all my daylight

Yes

Very straightforward however a bunch of stuff is broken/very corroded etc so it’s an ordeal

[fossil frost]

mine is ford, so it wasnt even screws, it was those stupid pop clips that are a pain to remove without snapping

[polar fern]

Had to employ heavy duty zip ties to secure the one side of the front top frame thing

Oh those are almost all broken

[fossil frost]

had 3 other fords, engines have all lasted well beyond 250k

[polar fern]

I’m gonna have the mechanic swap/replace the fasteners when I take it in for inspection soo

[fossil frost]

like any car, they last as long as you look after them

[polar fern]

Mhm

Except like daewoo or layland from the 1980’s

And a few specific specimens

[fossil frost]

they arent cars though, they are a box of parts that look like a car

[polar fern]

CSO

car shaped object

New headlight was like $230 but it came with -everything- assembled

BRB

[full fossil]

imagine if Linus made AM4 CPU plushy

[fossil frost]

i did imagine it, and i also imagined that nobody cared

[polar fern]

Y’all need to lay on some grass

[dreamy rose]

fake keyboard.

[clear creek]

Straight jamming to mc music rn

seagrass

[manic torrent]

Maybe hangout in a kelp forest.

[manic torrent]

I have a huge box full of various clips

[dreamy rose]

show us your funny clips

[ripe patrol]

Where? I kinda want one for the kids bathroom now 🤣

[full fossil]

I see you guys are having fun.

[timid meadow]

Could say it's full of shits and giggles over here

[full fossil]

I see...

[shy isle]

Thanks SignalRGB, you messed up the RGB to my 3070Ti even after I followed your steps

[dreamy rose]

this why we dont bother with RGB

[shy isle]

fair

[twilit olive]

for some reason my 3080 ftw3 is working with signalrgb

i could not change any rgb on any other software.

[shy isle]

for me, it makes the lights stutter

like an epileptic seizure

[twilit olive]

wow lol

i had abunch of rgb fans but it has a connecter to conect to eachother but never seem to work

idk if i needed a rgb hub or something

[wary summit]

itd be helpful if someone can send me powertoys dld link

[glacial ibex]

Double it and give it to the next person

[wary summit]

no, becuase im in china

[shy isle]

my only issue now is that my RGB is gonna look off

[wary summit]

i don't want the chinese version

[polar fern]

Power… toys? 🧐

[shy isle]

but thats really cosmetic

[wary summit]

transit, can u send it?

[shy isle]

ill probably just get used to it

[polar fern]

What am I sending?

[wary summit]

PowerToys download link

dms are open if you prefer

[polar fern]

Not sure what that is

[wary summit]

google it

Windows PowerToys

[leaden gale]

https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/releases/download/v0.66.0/PowerToysSetup-0.66.0-x64.exe

[polar fern]

This? https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/releases/tag/v0.66.0

Did I do the thing?

[wary summit]

yes thanks

[polar fern]

👍

[wary summit]

pog github dosen't load

[polar fern]

Heat pump ductless dryers

[shy isle]

haha i fixed it anyway

haha suck it SignalRGB

[polar fern]

Linus should test out a ductless dryer, but only if Yvonne approves it 🤣

[dreamy rose]

imagine needing to download such a tool. when you can have it all at your fingertips from install

[polar fern]

Hm?

[dreamy rose]

KDE Plasma

[polar fern]

Imagine a deHavilland comet but composite & high bypass wing root engines

BRB

[vestal needle]

how to buy linus body pillow

[manic torrent]

Imagine needing to install stuff. I never do. Everything I ever needed was pre installed

[full fossil]

Linux :)

[surreal axle]

Hahahah LTT is at the top of the CPU benchmark scores everywhere.
https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V10/display.php?id=502801245223

It doesn't say who uploaded it, but the date and Ubuntu installation checks out with the video date.

[pine goblet]

Does DMing a link to a server comment to the Warship bot actually get the attention of the Mods?

[surreal axle]

Linus, can I please borrow that Dual CPU server to recover my locked zip file I don't remember my password for? 😂

[pine goblet]

I saw someone use GPTchat to help bruteforce his mom's forgotten password.

To be fair he had a good idea about what it was just needed a list of variations. So it's not as scary as it sounds.

[unkempt widget]

that would help me so much

my password is usually variants of the same one

[vapid smelt]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/340307-rtx-4090-sets-new-records-in-password-cracking-benchmarks

[unkempt widget]

no way, the 4090 is better than the 3090???

shocking news

[pine goblet]

At least publicly known records. 🫣

[wary summit]

guys

someone tell me if these are fake

[graceful burrow]

I be waiting

[wary summit]

Attachments:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928812891967193158/1066555643617615892/20230122_111108.jpg

[graceful burrow]

We can't tell you if a bill is fake over the internet

[vapid smelt]

hold them up to the light you should see a face on the left or right

[graceful burrow]

Take it to a store and ask if they can mark it with an anti-counterfeit marker

[wary summit]

ok

[wary summit]

I'm in china

[graceful burrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vapid smelt]

face would be here

[wary summit]

there's this like creep on the right side

yea that thing creep

[vapid smelt]

then it should be real

[wary summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928812891967193158/1066556563004858448/IMG_20230122_111444.jpg

creep

[vapid smelt]

thats it

[vapid smelt]

guess it has this too

didnt know this was a thing

[pine goblet]

Could also be a counterfeit "super note". But likely a US traveler just dropped them.

[eager venture]

What’s some good cheap rgb stuff to put on my walls

[wary summit]

is the blue stripe that fuckin bright and reflective

[wary summit]

AliExpress

[vapid smelt]

time to put my stash of 100s away

[pine goblet]

Really, I remember in highschool kids learning how to tear a $20 to pull the security thread out. $20 is or was the lowest denomination they added them into.

[wary summit]

and then put them in 100s?

that's $80 profit

that's $80 profit

[vapid smelt]

the ribbon would read 20

[wary summit]

fuck true

[pine goblet]

Lol no the thread has the amount written on it.

[wary summit]

forgot Americans aren't that stupid

what's the point of it then?

ripping the ribbon out

[pine goblet]

Kids being stupid

[vapid smelt]

some people dont think our $2 bills are real

words are hard

[wary summit]

i- I think china

copied us bills

[pine goblet]

I've seen multiple stories over the years about cashier's calling the cops over someone using a $2 bill, half the time the cops think it's fake too.

[wary summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928812891967193158/1066558074917236876/20230122_112048.jpg

[wary summit]

wait why

[vapid smelt]

when my mom worked at Costco food court she had a co worker exchange her own money for 2$ bills when ever they got them

[wary summit]

blame American education or just stupid people

[wary summit]

aren't they disconnected

[vapid smelt]

not to my knowledge

[pine goblet]

Uneducated. Also most people save any $2 bill because they seem rare so you rarely see them in public.

[wary summit]

lmao

[vapid smelt]

a few years ago my grandpa when to like 3 banks to get 2$ bills to put in our Easter eggs

[wary summit]

💯

[pine goblet]

Yeah I didn't get mine. Thanks Gpa

[wary summit]

is it $2 > $5

[vapid smelt]

we have 1$ bill and coin

[wary summit]

ok that's a bit dumb

1 dollars should be coins

since you guys have stupid quarters and pennies

[vapid smelt]

the coins are kinda big and heavy

[wary summit]

how big

[pine goblet]

Also again no one really uses the $1 coin. Mostly just collected for some reason.

[vapid smelt]

my local rec center had dollar coins in the vending machine

[pine goblet]

That's cool

[vapid smelt]

it was very cool for 8 year old me

[pine goblet]

Your chart left out the half dollar coin. Not sure if they still make them though.

[vapid smelt]

those are comically large

[full fossil]

half dollars are beeg

[pine goblet]

Indeed my mom used to have a ton of them with JFK on them.

[full fossil]

rip jfk

[cinder elbow]

theyre still made

or minted technically

[pine goblet]

Have a hunch most go to those silver coated collector set dealers 😆

[cinder elbow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I havent collected coins in a long time so idk

[full fossil]

i used to collect coins

[cinder elbow]

same, i think i stopped back in 2014?

[pine goblet]

Me either I had one of those hard plastic cases with like a wheat penny & buffalo nickel in it when I was a kid.

[cinder elbow]

i still have all my coins but theyre at my parents house

[full fossil]

physical material collection hobbies are fun but requires like.... space that i dont have

[cinder elbow]

now i collect keyboards and keyswitches

[full fossil]

not that i dont want space id love to have more space

gib beeg house and land plox

and money so i can fill it with stupid things

[cinder elbow]

mood

i wish my apartment rent wasnt stupid expensive

[full fossil]

same and i wish i didnt live in an apartment

[cinder elbow]

I used to rent a house but i had to move for my job so rip my cheap rent for a bigger place than im in now

I went from 1.2k for a 3 bed 2 bath house to 1.7k for a 2 bed 2 bath apartment ;-;

but i have a much bigger office which is nice

[wispy marsh]

Hey hey

Metallica's just dropped a new song

[surreal lodge]

Who's excited to see what Google unveils at Google I/O '23

[graceful burrow]

Not me

What new way can they harvest data

[surreal lodge]

Don't want to hear about their rumored airtag competitor?

[pine goblet]

They typically only show that behind the scenes.

[surreal lodge]

At least they tell you when/what they harvest, most of the time, compared to Apple who tracks you even when they ask and you say no

[timid meadow]

As long as they dont call it the spot like the one rumor i heard

[surreal lodge]

Oh yeah, lol

Google Spot, aka. Gspot

[timid meadow]

Millions of "gigachads" around the world suddenly find it. Could be a good thing

[surreal lodge]

never lose your stuff again

You'll always have people looking out for it

[cinder elbow]

I know people in a keyboard server I'm in was talking about using airtags in their boards since someone stole one from a meetup I went to

[surreal lodge]

rip

[graceful burrow]

You can fit an air tag in the body of a steam deck

[cinder elbow]

Luckily a bunch of vendors got together and basically gifted the exact same board and build to the guy who was stolen from

[surreal lodge]

damn, that's nice of them

[cinder elbow]

Yea

[cosmic coyote]

The perfect grift

Man has 2 keyboards now

[surreal lodge]

I mean, I also have two. Why wouldn't you

[cosmic coyote]

One for each hand

Like a true gamer

[cinder elbow]

I have like 40 boards

Or more if you count the ones I haven't built yet

[surreal lodge]

dang

All I have is a membrane Logitech MX Keys and a custom mechanical for gaming

[cosmic coyote]

Nice

[surreal lodge]

Why 40 boards?

[cinder elbow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[surreal lodge]

reasonable

[cinder elbow]

https://www.notion.so/a82aac8937a940208baf0d649a26d09e?v=1188b273837643fb9b0815c88b1cb77b i think im waiting on like 3 boards to be made/shipped but thats what i have

[wispy marsh]

What about actually good keyboards?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931960199911206945/1050304188854325378/6B4675B2-D319-465B-B3E1-9911ECFE06C6.jpg

[cinder elbow]

I actually have the pcb for that

[wispy marsh]

Which one? JJ50 or Preonic?

[cosmic coyote]

What’s with the random colour key caps

[wispy marsh]

You're about the fifteen thousandth person to ask this. It's to make my life slightly easier by noting where my function keys are.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931960199911206945/982567760976572436/unknown.png

[surreal lodge]

wtf

[cosmic coyote]

Oh ok

[manic torrent]

I do not understand those supercompact keyboards.

[surreal lodge]

How does one use a keyboard that small

[manic torrent]

like I get how they WORK, I just don't get the appeal

[surreal lodge]

I can barely type on my Fold's keyboard

[cosmic coyote]

Pretty

That’s the reason

[manic torrent]

I understand pretty - I'm talking about the size, not the colour

[cosmic coyote]

The size

[wispy marsh]

Ortholinear

[cosmic coyote]

Is cute

[wispy marsh]

When I use that keyboard, i do not have to move my hands away from the primary typing cluster of keys

That includes function keys, numpad, navkeys

[surreal lodge]

this is what I use. has RGB as well

I can barely type on that thing

[surreal lodge]

So, faster typing?

[wispy marsh]

Yeah. I hate using regular keyboards now due to this fact

Everything is non-layered except the fancy keys

Plus, they're staggered keyboards

[cinder elbow]

i dont have image perms rn but ill post my board in #peripherals

[surreal lodge]

oh lol, I didn't know there was that channel

[cinder elbow]

lol

[surreal lodge]

you have a pretty cool KB

It's a nice design and the colours

[dim steppe]

anyone here do archery

[surreal lodge]

no

[neon mesa]

45% keyboard userd are masochists

[cinder elbow]

thanks, rip my wallet though

[surreal lodge]

oh I bet

[wispy marsh]

I was a fantastic archer

Until I stopped playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance

[surreal lodge]

I got mine at a huge discount because I bought it from a friend. Gotta re-lube, though

[wispy marsh]

50% keyboard is the sweet spot

55%~65% for gaming

[lavish drift]

Get a v4n for gaming

V4n gud

[cinder elbow]

nah 40rimie

[karmic wedge]

gave my desktop a wipe down today for dust and a bloody hunter spider spider crawled out of the psu intake filter

[surreal lodge]

rip

[neon mesa]

Numpad, no less, you'll appreciate it on some games

[karmic wedge]

ok all of these emotes don't suit so just imagine I was startled

[surreal lodge]

I don't understand how people use keyboards without function keys, it baffles me

[neon mesa]

Numpad is literally free 10+ keys macro

[surreal lodge]

I have an Azio numpad

[neon mesa]

I will never get a ten key less

Full 104 all day

[karmic wedge]

yeah, need my numpad

[surreal lodge]

https://www.aziocorp.com/collections/izo-keyboard-collection/products/izo-numpad-calculator-blue-switch?variant=40664185307302 this is my number pad that I use with my mechanical KB

[wispy marsh]

$69

[past egret]

if you need macros just get a macropad

[neon mesa]

At that point just use a 104 💀

Cheaper too than a macro keyboard which are overpriced

[surreal lodge]

I didn't buy my num pad, it was given to me

[wispy marsh]

We can afford it

[surreal lodge]

they really are

[lavish drift]

I’m curious

How much do you think macropads go for

[neon mesa]

Well I'm guessing over 15

[wispy marsh]

There are a few good ones at $10

[surreal lodge]

Not when you spend money on servers for storage and running VMs

[wispy marsh]

The really good ones start at $50

Because those are all mechanical

[neon mesa]

Yeah that's literally the price of some decent keyboard

Just get a 104 and you get a lot of macro

Oh comhined with numlock basically 20 keys

[surreal lodge]

that's a lot of keys

[wispy marsh]

I get it, you are either fking cheap or you don't think of our hobby as a valid one

Either reasons are acceptable

Mr. Lafreniere is also known for being extremely financially-conscious

You're never alone for the feelings alike

[lavish drift]

My embed failed

Pain

These takes are refreshing

[wispy marsh]

You need a subscription role to embed in here - floatplant, booster etc

[lavish drift]

Too lazy for all that

[neon mesa]

Being cheap is not wanting to spend 50 bucks on something 104 keyboard already got? 💀

[rose cipher]

Almost like people value modularity

[wispy marsh]

Somewhere along those lines

[neon mesa]

Aesthetics are valid
But don't try to argue functionality

[neon mesa]

It's called being more responsible with money

[wispy marsh]

You're more likely to have FOSS firmware for $50 macropads

[neon mesa]

Who needs that when numpad does the job when combined with powertoys

[wispy marsh]

I hear other people's monologues whenever I see this line

[neon mesa]

What's with the obsession with FOSS

When it doesn't function any better

[wispy marsh]

Either foss or freeware, they both allow me to flash the firmware for more keys

arguing against a hobby

[neon mesa]

Like i said aesthetics and preferences are valid but functionality nah

[wispy marsh]

I know where you're coming from

[neon mesa]

Let's back pedal to hobby when you're losing*

[wispy marsh]

It's the same with Apple before the M1 MBPs

No hdmi, no sd card slot, no audio jack

[lavish drift]

What’s foss

And why foss when vial

[neon mesa]

Open source

[lavish drift]

So is qmk

[wispy marsh]

Alright then, let's say that I value money less than you

I have a fully OEM limited-edition ducky 108 keyboard

I replaced it with a 60-key, and if I want to, I could get a macropad

[neon mesa]

If you're getting it for a hobby and for aesthetic it's valid

[wispy marsh]

Dopamine is one helluva drug

[neon mesa]

But god damn it's not any better functionally

[wispy marsh]

That's what I'm getting at

[neon mesa]

Nor is it money wise

[wispy marsh]

Functionality per cost, I am on the losing end considering all factors

[neon mesa]

That's my whole point the whole time

[lavish drift]

I’m in the hobby for quality not functionality

[wispy marsh]

But, I do prefer

[lavish drift]

Ion think anyone is in it for functionality

[wispy marsh]

???

Hello, freeware & foss is functionality

Not functionality-per-cost, but functionality

[lavish drift]

True ig

[neon mesa]

You don't need foss when i can use like powertoy to make numpad a full macropad

[lavish drift]

Some people are in there for ergonomics

[wispy marsh]

Via, merlin, qmk

I get where you're coming from

I also daily drive linux

[neon mesa]

Not surprised

[wispy marsh]

It's free, lets me vpn back home, lets me block domains, host my files

I can use hardware from previous builds to host it

[neon mesa]

You can do those with windows

[wispy marsh]

Nope, not without windows server

Many of the functionality is locked behind expensive windows server licenses

[worn lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846328975570763806/1066515257293537310/image.png

Fairly certain these people are in it for the functionality 😛

[neon mesa]

Regular keyboard would finish 100 essays before whoever has this learns how to remotely type at 80wpm

[worn lynx]

lol okay

it's really not that hard

[wispy marsh]

Fiona's not wrong

But it is akin to frog-in-the-well

[slate tulip]

@worn lynx I can't help but think - why don't you change your name to "Jordana Banana"?

[worn lynx]

these are people designing boards to specifically fit their hand shape and they can usually type insanely fast thanks to chording

[neon mesa]

A mess, there is that chorder keyboard that's shaped like a regular keyboard, best of both

[slate tulip]

case in point: Stenographers

[wispy marsh]

Stenos

They have the most fked up keeb i've ever seen

[neon mesa]

A piano

[wispy marsh]

But it works to them

[worn lynx]

all I'm saying is do not underestimate others, they are out there and they are crazy

[wispy marsh]

Once you have a hobby like cycling or car modification that spans a wide range of prices, you'll know

[neon mesa]

Hobbies are valid but the moment someone say "ohhh I'm in thiss because it's more useful" it's cap.

[wispy marsh]

We would pay the price for an experience

Also

[manic torrent]

I mean it may be.

but... that's not why you did it 🙂

[neon mesa]

Well yeah some are quite useful

Why 3080 12G kinda disappeared

[wispy marsh]

Take intercourse protection as an example

There are so many flavours with varying prices

As well as the things inside the closet and the cabinet

[slate tulip]

as a hobby? I'm confuse

[wispy marsh]

Dark secrets

That's why you have the evga classified motherboard

[slate tulip]

oh, well that's banned too

[wispy marsh]

Yep

[slate tulip]

god-forbid you try to have any conversation in this server

[wispy marsh]

It's for public safety

Voyeurs not allowed too

[unkempt widget]

hi everyone

[wraith thistle]

Correct

[blissful zinc]

How come slow mode is always on

[dreamy rose]

why would you have Slowmode in the first place?

[blissful zinc]

Hmm

[dreamy rose]

why would a server enable slow mode in the first place?

[blissful zinc]

To annoy people

[indigo plume]

witcher 3 next gen update keeps crashing for me

only way around is using dx11 it seems but that version is capped at 60 fps I think

[dreamy rose]

in a big server?

[marsh relic]

any good air compressors i can buy to clean my pc?

[blissful zinc]

Lol I’m in bigger servers with no slow mode

[wise goblet]

what software do y'all recommend to keep track of fps, average fps, 1% lows, temperature, usage etc like in those comparison videos

[unkempt widget]

rivatuner, it comes with msi afterburner

[hollow pulsar]

Slowmode is amazingly helpful. It cuts down on spam and forces folks to think a bit before just spewing the first thing on their mind in rapid succession.

[bright silo]

x-power something on amazon

[wise goblet]

thank you

[dreamy rose]

doesnt stop me asking for Predictions on how big GTA 6is gonna be when GTA 5 is 105GB to download.

[unkempt widget]

gta5 is 105gb???

[dreamy rose]

105.6 to be exact. and on drive its 108.5

[steep matrix]

Hi

[neon mesa]

Well it's because of like 9 years of online updates?

Story is closer to 50

[fluid ridge]

GTA is a dead horse rockstar kept beating but the horse wasnt really dead and it was actually alive and well because people were riding it but it was still a dead horse because it's so old, but it wasnt a dead horse because it wasnt that old but it was still old but not that old

[wise goblet]

is it normal for a cpu core to be at 37 while another is at 25? does that mean only one of those cores is being used or is that a sign of poor thermal paste application?

[unkempt widget]

idk

[graceful burrow]

It's normal
Temps will spike momentarily as they crunch a bit of info

[cosmic coyote]

Skyrim

[fluid ridge]

GTA6 better be revolutionary

raytraced AR gameplay at 16k 1400fps OLED XDR 110% dci-p3 coverage

[past egret]

nah

[wise goblet]

GTA6 online better let me carry over my GTA5 online progress

I'll glitch it all back anyway

[unkempt widget]

wait wasn't gta6 already leaked

[near nymph]

Mhmm Skyrizi seems to be pushed alot in the USA

[dreamy rose]

2019 builds

[tender geyser]

Yea but it won’t look anything like the leaks probably

[dreamy rose]

again. last Decades build

[wind pulsar]

Very, very early game assets of it, yeah

Virtually pointless as a leak

But it was extremely good PR for Rockstar, albeit unsolicited. A lot of people straight up gave up on Rockstar releasing GTA VI

[unkempt widget]

damn

[marsh relic]

imma get one from ITduster compucleaner i believe i saw the same one jayztwocents had

[full fossil]

You again!

[unkempt widget]

hi OwO

[full fossil]

:[

[unkempt widget]

why are you sad :(

[full fossil]

I'm always sad lol, 🫂

[small anvil]

Anyone have a recommendation to scan for malware?

[unkempt widget]

windows defender scan

[unkempt widget]

:(

do a full scan

if you already know there's a virus, and it's serious, factory reset

i found out i've been using my mouse at 800dpi this entire time

i always thought i was using 1600 but it turns out i set my mouse settings to 5 because i had an unadjustable mouse earlier

[tender glade]

howdy

[manic torrent]

I made a thing!

[tender glade]

a cross?

[graceful burrow]

Ah yes
Monitor crucifixion mount

[unkempt widget]

hi momo

[graceful burrow]

Classic choice

[tender glade]

https://tenor.com/view/áldás-cross-raining-sunset-gif-17655038

hi

im going insane

[timid meadow]

Welcome to the club

Have a huggy jacket

[manic torrent]

motorized monitor crucifixion mount.

[graceful burrow]

New fangled crucifixions

[full fossil]

Hello bob.

[manic torrent]

Hello

[full fossil]

how is you bob

[manic torrent]

Tired. Did construction today. Changed around my son's swing set, fixed the gate so it could be locked, built my monitor... Thing

[low rain]

Goodnight people

[slate tulip]

I heard they just happened to find it laying about on an unsecured system

[slate tulip]

Busy busy

I spent way too long trying to troubleshoot this extreme switch thing, still haven’t figured it out

Going to grab a tftp Server next and wireshark some packet captures sigh

[hidden phoenix]

do i need another display port cable for PG27AQN monitor? it supports 360hz at 2k resolution my cable supports 2k@240hz. cant find any 360hz cables tho

[slate tulip]

I doubt this

[manic torrent]

Does it work?

[hidden phoenix]

monitor hasnt arrived yet

reviews don't mention anything about the cable

[manic torrent]

I suspect that it needs dsc for 360hz

[polar fern]

What do you call a harbour full of dioramas?

A display port. -_-

Ugh

Mad respect for motor vehicle mechanics

[kindred coral]

Welcome in my club

[polar fern]

Momo has a one way ticket.

[small anvil]

Clicked a link in an email to unsubscribe, then realized the link was fishy

[tender glade]

ehhh???

[polar fern]

🤣

[unkempt widget]

scan

full scan, and pray nothing happened

[small anvil]

Did, several times, offline, nothing so far

[unkempt widget]

not a quick scan, a full scan

did anything get downloaded

[small anvil]

Offline scan

[polar fern]

You only need one way ticket to go insane

[small anvil]

No

[unkempt widget]

also momo

[tender glade]

hmmm?

[unkempt widget]

nvm i'm not allowed to ask it

but i did report against lighting lin

[tender glade]

huh

[unkempt widget]

did yall at least check what i reported

[polar fern]

Don’t type in any passwords etc till you’re sure there’s no sus going on

[tender glade]

where

who

what

[slate tulip]

Ohai @tender glade we have mutual friends :)

[kindred coral]

??

[polar fern]

It’s a loop

Going loopy.. going insane? 🤦‍♂️

[unkempt widget]

it has been deleted

[tender glade]

oki

[kindred coral]

Yk nobody cares about your trouble unless it's necessary right?

[unkempt widget]

idk i think it was against the rules

[polar fern]

🤔

[kindred coral]

And I got warned what else you want?

[unkempt widget]

anyways let's stop

[wind pulsar]

I also dmed you something what was bothering me, was just hard to come across with a single mod tag

[unkempt widget]

oh ok i think discussing punishments are banned, shit rule but still

[slate tulip]

I asked for help with a networking issue earlier today - have you all become network SMEs since then so you can solve all my problems?

[tender glade]

.-.

please

not here

[wind pulsar]

[tender glade]

i totally havent been gathering for 4 hours and 30 minutes straight :)

[wind pulsar]

Cute banner btw Momo c:

[slate tulip]

Gathering?

[tender glade]

ty

calm calm calm

noboodys angry

you dont need to get angry

[polar fern]

Is it copper or aluminium that radiates heat better? I can’t brain right now

[unkempt widget]

copper

don't mix them, they corrode

[slate tulip]

If I had no boody, i might be angry too

[wind pulsar]

Bears some truth to it though, that guy brings it up every single time. No clue if he just tries to be annoying, but eh.

[polar fern]

One is better at conducting

[tender glade]

copper is better at conducting

aluminum is better at radiating

[polar fern]

👍

[unkempt widget]

what there's a difference?

[small anvil]

Your better at conducting, my heart

[tender glade]

want an easy way to remember it?

[wind pulsar]

Copper is better, the only metal that is better at conducting heat than copper is silver, which financially doesn't make sense to implement into cooling solutions

[unkempt widget]

i always thought it was just how conductive it was

[tender glade]

intel stock heaters

[polar fern]

O yeah

[slate tulip]

Intel is the best

[tender glade]

the part thats in contact with the cpu is copper

the part that shoos the heat away is aluminum

[polar fern]

😲

[unkempt widget]

silver also tarnishes no?

[wind pulsar]

So does copper

[unkempt widget]

i thought you weren't suppose to mix them

[unkempt widget]

ah ok

[tender glade]

in water loops

yes

[unkempt widget]

oh ok

[polar fern]

Galvanic action

[tender glade]

you also use copper heat pipes in aluminum fin stacks

[unkempt widget]

anyways how are you guys doing

[tender glade]

galvanic action isnt that big of a deal in dry applications

[slate tulip]

It’s 1:30am and I’m just laying in bed. I should sleep or do something.

[unkempt widget]

yeah you should

[slate tulip]

Also extreme sucks - is such a generic word it’s hard to google things for

[timid meadow]

Good enough. Chilling at work all alone

[slate tulip]

What do you do @timid meadow?

[polar fern]

Then there’s like magnesium vs zinc for ship hull anodes

Fresh vs salt water

[timid meadow]

3rd shift security. Half the time the factory is empty aside from me.

[slate tulip]

Ah. Not too bad

[polar fern]

Sounds like the making of an action movie

[timid meadow]

Especially since their weekend is right in the middle of my week

Almost like 2 extra paid days off sometimes

[slate tulip]

That’s cool!

Do you enjoy your job?

[timid meadow]

Nope. But someones gotta do it, and its easy.

[slate tulip]

Also, what’s “3rd shift”? My work uses those too but they are never relevant to me so I always forget

[slate tulip]

Fair enough

[timid meadow]

I usually work 2300-0700

[slate tulip]

Ah, okay

[tender glade]

in english please?

[timid meadow]

11pm to 7am

[slate tulip]

Subtract 12 😛

[tender glade]

cool

[polar fern]

Overnight security be like 360 nominal shifts & 5 you remember for the rest of your life

[timid meadow]

Tru

Dont do anything for months on end then 1 week i write 2 reports a day

[slate tulip]

My work is nice - as long as the work gets done and i attend meetings, my work time is flexible

[kindred coral]

If you haven't deleted that I'm telling someone who has problem with me to DM me so it won't be here, then yeah

[polar fern]

My dad used to do custodial work overnight but he also was charged with security.

[slate tulip]

Sometimes i wake up early and start at 7am, sometimes i wake up at 9:30am lol.

[hot loom]

How much do y'all wanna bet that AMD is going to come out with a DLSS 3.0 equivalent that will run on every GPU and then Nvidia will "develop" the ability to use DLSS 3.0 on other cards in response?

[polar fern]

🤷‍♂️

Cannot afford anything at the moment.

[hot loom]

Considering that some bloke got DLSS 3 to work in Cyberpunk on a 2070, it seems to me that DLSS 3 is being locked to 40 series purely because there's not much real performance uplift other than the 4090

[slate tulip]

I’m just hoping we stay in the video card business, everyone wins

[polar fern]

Oh that’s right you work for Intel

[hot loom]

I want Intel Battlemage to succeed

The duopoly should be broken up

[slate tulip]

Even if it’s not everyone’s preferred videocard, i think more competition is great for everyone

As consumers, we all win

[polar fern]

I think we saw what happened with soundblaster, and I don’t think we want to repeat that

[hot loom]

Until corporate Intel steps in and starts practicing the same shady practices as AMD and Nvidia

[full fossil]

what happened with soundblaster?

i mean intel has done some stuff

[tender glade]

good built in motherboard audio

[slate tulip]

I hope not, but we’ll see

[polar fern]

They kinda bough everything

Bought

[slate tulip]

Monopolies really only benefit stakeholders

[full fossil]

ah you mean basically requiring a sound card back in the day to now not?

[tender glade]

yep

[slate tulip]

The best is when we get open standards and multiple companies releasing compatible products

[polar fern]

Yeah & they had 98% of the market

[full fossil]

all those old sound blaster pcbs just laying around rip

[hot loom]

I dream of a world where the technicians and engineers working at Intel, ARM, Nvidia, etc. stop having trademarked secrets and were allowed to freely share knowledge and manufacturing technology with each other.

Because in the end, that would objectively produce the best outcomes for technological development. But because corporations develop these things purely for profit, it will never happen

[polar fern]

Creative labs my foot

[full fossil]

would definitely stimmie innovation

[slate tulip]

Yup. And there’s lots of contracts too. Like, how they own anything you develop on or around their company, it’s pretty dumb. You can make them billions and they can give you an employee of the month award and nothing else

[hot loom]

Most of the major innovations of the modern day: The microchip, touch screens, the internet, etc. were all developed by government and university funded research projects which had no "budget limits" and were not manufacutring towards profit seeking. But rather towards solving problems.

[polar fern]

But yeah. Competition can be good, but real innovation isn’t always profitable or even popular within a company’s internal culture

[slate tulip]

But i read there’s legislation in the works to ban non-competes

[polar fern]

That would be nuts

[slate tulip]

That’s why there’s so many reboots in entertainment

[timid meadow]

Do all the work at home-> take all the systems and patents when you leave->sue for unpaid labor->profit???

[full fossil]

yes

[hot loom]

Doubt it will pass given that bribery is fully legal in western countries so long as you call it lobbying

[slate tulip]

Yeah. We definitely have a lot of issues :(

[polar fern]

well

The doe needed something to calculate stuff that didn’t occupy a city block

And just by the nature of physics calculations you’ve created a scientific tool

[hot loom]

Patents should not exist. Intellectual property should not exist. Knowledge should be freely shared between all people, and not in exchange for a payment. Because no one should be able to profit off knowledge via simply owning a piece of paper which says you own that knowledge

[polar fern]

In a world where people don’t skip corners to make money that might work

[hot loom]

That world can exist, it is up to us to make it though

[slate tulip]

The problem it was meant to fix is that you could invent something awesome, and then something else could be better looking / more convincing / have more starting money / etc and make all the money off of your invention leaving you broke

[polar fern]

I mean someone is always going to strip down a thing to make it as profitable as possible.

That too

[hot loom]

Best step to start is unionising workplaces and then eventually making a larger union organisation for an entire industry. Imagine if all of the big brained people at Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and Arm all had the power to veto stupid corporate decisions.

We wouldn't have the RTX 4060ti being the equivalent of a 3070 for the same price.

[stray apex]

patents exist so that there's a financial incentive for people to actually invent new things

[polar fern]

It’s almost like currency was invented to hold us back from innovating

[stray apex]

...currency was invented to simplify barter

[polar fern]

Same idea tho

[slate tulip]

Eh, not really

I can’t exactly trade farmer joe for eggs with my ability to run a datacenter

Oops, wrong reply, sorry

[hot loom]

We could give the people that invent such innovations a finnacial incentive in other ways. Such as guranteeing that everyone that works a 40 hour workweek is fully entitled to home ownership, high quality healthcare, and the ability to democratically control their workplace.

[kindred coral]

Sometimes that's for better

[stray apex]

and this will pay for people to invent things how?

[kindred coral]

That's... Not how it works...

[stray apex]

this is like a baby's first economics discource

[polar fern]

Farmer Joe is a multimillionaire & too busy going fishing to worry about your datacentre

[timid meadow]

Its not an incentive if its the standard

[hot loom]

Because when you're not constantly worried about being homeless, starving to death, or being in cripling debt for illnesses and such, you tend to have a lot more freetime to do productive things.

The guy that invented the Smallpox vaccine spent 30 years of his life dedicated to developing it when his mother passed from it. And he refused to patent it because "You cannot patent the sun."

Humans do great things other than for the seeking of personal gain

[polar fern]

Imagine only knowing this type of house

[full fossil]

imagine knowing a house lol, get in the vat thats feeds off your body heat

[timid meadow]

Imo big difference between a humanity changing invention and what would qualify for a patent

[polar fern]

Then seeing a stick built McMansion subdivision

[stray apex]

he was also, y'know, probably a fairly well-off guy

scientific breakthroughs are dominated by the wealthy

[hot loom]

I don't see it as such, because a great many of small innovations can have big results. In the span of 20 years, the development in computer technology has allowed for such things as South Korean doctors developing an AI which calculates the best arrangement and physical therapy for people who lost their limbs. And the researchers were only using like a 3090 I believe.

[stray apex]

because they're the only people who could actually afford to do science

[slate tulip]

Tbf, it’s really comes down to two different beliefs:

• human beings are inherently lazy and won’t produce or do anything if not incentivized with the looming threat of homelessness and discomfort

and

• humans would naturally contribute to the greater good of humanity if they had all of their needs met

[polar fern]

I should really try to get some sleep. I have a grocery order and an Amazon delivery coming later today & this is making my brain gears spin when I should be getting rest

[timid meadow]

I think people would, i just dont think itd happen as fast. Thus the point of some form of encouragement

[hot loom]

Yeah, and if there wasn't 1% of the population controlling 50% of the wealth, there'd be a lot more people that could live comfortably and have the time to dedicate themselves to such pursuits.

How many Einsteins have been lost by the 9 million people that starve to death every year in a world which produces enough food to feed 2 billion more people than live on it?

[slate tulip]

I’m in the second camp, but a lot of people aren’t

When I get time to myself, i game for the first few days straight, do nothing. After that, i feel a need to stop being lazy and do something

[polar fern]

I will say that I don’t find it problematic that people would want to benefit from developing or creating something. What I do get bothered by is if someone else comes and takes that idea and cheapens it & makes it less of a thing and makes also money off of it.

[timid meadow]

Those who want more then needs would contribute. If your okay with the bare minimum few tv channels, heat, and 2000 calories a day then fine. Most people want alot more and would go earn it

[stray apex]

yes, and these are all very obvious things that people have thought of

[polar fern]

2000 calories a day. Yikes. I need like 4500

[stray apex]

economics is actually a fairly complex topic that humans have been working on for all of recorded history

[timid meadow]

Because of your habits. Humans only need like 2k if that for survival

[wind pulsar]

I gain weight at like 1,500, lol

[hot loom]

That's exactly what corporations do. Because it is not the CEOs and shareholders developing that technology or manufacturing it. It is their employees. Without their employees, they would be absolutely nothing.

Because humans can only be productive when they act in coordination with a vast web of other individuals. Everyone mutually depends upon each other in some way.

[polar fern]

😲

Yeah. It’s a messy thing

[wind pulsar]

Not even that, lol

Humans can easily go for a month without eating, the more bodyfat you have the easier it is

[polar fern]

No, I just am a huge guy with a pretty enthusiastic metabolism

[timid meadow]

Ehhh corporations to an extent have to exist. Theres definitely benefit to a hierarchy and management structure

[polar fern]

No. We all have corner offices.

Factory is a waste of time. 🤣

[rigid drift]

6700xt or 3060ti???

someoine help

[manic torrent]

And if you don't work, you are garbage and you get nothing!

[hot loom]

Do they though? Why couldn't it be that rather than an unelected group of wealthy individuals that get to have dictatorial control of everything that happens in an enterprise, why not have the people that actually do the work of enterprise be able to vote in who gets to be in managerial positions?

The workplace should be democratically ran; every aspect of society should be democratically ran

[wind pulsar]

It's virtually pointless determine whose role is more important, everybody contributes to their company in a major way, be it bottom of the barrel employee or board of directors

[manic torrent]

Because a productive job is the only way to be useful

[timid meadow]

Oh yea i cant handle factory work. Ill watch over the place, but i cant stand in one spot and make the same part 20k times a day for 300 days then get laid off at Christmas like its some kind of benefit to me

[polar fern]

Erm. I’m disabled & can’t work breh.

you don’t want to see a very hungry version of me.

It would also be a very angry version

[stray apex]

because democracies are inherently slow, which makes them unsuited for things that require

[manic torrent]

Democracy is ... Not very good tbh.

[hot loom]

I disagree, because the board of directors adds no value to the economy whatsoever. Their profit margins come from the fact that they own pieces of paper which say they have dictatorial control over everything that goes on within a company. They get to decide what you produce, how fast you produce it, what you pay is, when you can go to the bathroom, what you can say, how you can behvave, etc.

[manic torrent]

Yes, capitalism. Those with the capital make the rules.

[timid meadow]

Im sorry but not everyones opinion matters. Opinions are like a-holes, we all got em, and plenty of em stink.

[full fossil]

i have one

youre welcome for letting you know

[hot loom]

I disagree; Democracies have historically been very rapidly acting when they were not impeded. You can take Athens' under the leadership of Pericles and then Cleon as the primary example where the Athenian assembly was turning out hundreds of decisions a day

[polar fern]

opinions are only as good as the informedness of someone’s experiences and knowledge

[timid meadow]

My biggest issue with just straight democracy

[stray apex]

no, democracies are the slowest form of government to react

[polar fern]

And with that I am going to bed you all good night

[full fossil]

night

[polar fern]

Be good ❤️

[timid meadow]

Gn

[full fossil]

have good drems

[manic torrent]

Let's say I'm doing a new design for a system to be deployed in the cloud. I am making 10s Or hundreds of decisions... Should those all go to a vote? Of who?

The reality is that most people wouldn't even know what I was talking about. Let alone be able to make a decision.

[stray apex]

also, tf you mean "not impeded"

literally the point of a democracy is to impede decision making

[full fossil]

democracy works when its not waiting on votes

[slate tulip]

And yet, our legislators do that every day

[wind pulsar]

Calling a senate full of rich people that make a decision for people that have no say whatsoever while they got bought in voted into the senate can barely be called a democracy, truthfully

[stray apex]

the purpose of representing everyone is that not everyone has the same ideas

if everyone in your democracy agrees on everything, it's not a democracy

[full fossil]

calling america the only democracy is also

uhh something i dunno english hard

[hot loom]

The benefit that we have over the Athenian democracy is that we have a vast amount of knowledge as compared to then and we have the ability to gather information far more rapidly than they did.

Before the coup in 1973 in Chile, the Chilean government, as it was undersiege from Right Wing military rebellion and embargo from all of the major western countries, it was able to develop a project called Cybersyn which took imputs directly from workers at various factories, and kept the Chilean economy afloat before the government was eventually couped.

[full fossil]

darth getting boring

[wind pulsar]

America is statistically known not to be a full democracy, shit happens

[stray apex]

isn't america technically a republic or something

[timid meadow]

Isnt America a democratic republic

[full fossil]

yea but talking about a rich senate is doing a disgrace to democracy as a principle

oh

[manic torrent]

America is a third world country wearing a Gucci belt.

[timid meadow]

Tru

[full fossil]

i didnt finish your sentence akira, sorry, carry on

[sweet jetty]

hihi

[wind pulsar]

Nah, whatever xD

[full fossil]

you said exactly what i was saying

[pine bolt]

hello all

[wind pulsar]

Yeah. xD

[full fossil]

im just a drunk butt head

[hot loom]

That is a myth set up by the United States. The United States is not a democracy, it is a corporate plutocracy.

The vast majority of everyone's lives is controlled by a small handful of private individuals. You are under dictatorial control while you are at work. Democracy is more than filling out a piece of paper every few years.

[stray apex]

meanwhile people without access to clean water or food

[hot loom]

The US is not a Democracy

[full fossil]

is sad

[stray apex]

nah, the government very much does try to do it's best to avoid pissing people off

[timid meadow]

Okay fine, gucci purse. Theres lint in the bottom

[full fossil]

most of the time

[full fossil]

can we eat it?

[stray apex]

the government might not necessarily make the best decisions, but every politician knows that if they fail to represent the people too hard, they're out

[sweet jetty]

expensive meal tho

[hot loom]

Democracy means that the people rule society. The people make all decisions pertaining to foreign policy, domestic policy, and most importantly economy.

[stray apex]

yes, which is hilariously impractical, which is why nobody does that

instead people vote for other people to make decisions, and hope that they largely do what they say they will

[full fossil]

people also eat tide pods and plank on canyon ledges

[hot loom]

Except various countries have employed it to great effect; like Cuba and Chile before the coup

[stray apex]

chile did in fact have a president

[timid meadow]

Why would you want a say in war or major decisions like that? Let the smart people do it how am i supposed to know which nuke is better???