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cosmic coyote
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Oh no

manic torrent
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(that pains me to say, but js can be extremely fast in 2023)

native crag
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Eats through CPU cycles

hollow pulsar
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At least part of the reason JS is so terrible is that it is often used for obfuscation. So the way it is written is to jump through hoops and be needlessly complex.

manic torrent
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... which are for entirely different purposes

native crag
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It's a rocket rider

manic torrent
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saying "omg js is slow" because you're comparing it to C .... well.. yeah. no shit.

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and I can also get to work on a mine cart

native crag
cosmic coyote
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Imagine using C for everything. I would jump off a bridge

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that’s fair haha

hollow pulsar
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C
C dos
C dos run

manic torrent
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I don't disagree, but that isn't what you said

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the vast majority of development does not and SHOULD not involve C or similar

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nobody cares

native crag
manic torrent
sonic barn
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99.9% of jobs don't use rust

manic torrent
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The requirement for code is greater than could be supplied.

native crag
manic torrent
sonic barn
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if you are going for open source, go ahead but c++ is still the king

manic torrent
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have you ever employed developers?

sonic barn
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99.9%

manic torrent
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JFC

cosmic coyote
sonic barn
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check stackoverflow and github they released 2022 stats

native crag
sonic barn
manic torrent
cosmic coyote
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Yea that’s why I had to learn this

manic torrent
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and yet, micropython exists.

cosmic coyote
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python is great

sonic barn
manic torrent
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... yes.

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ok, I don't care...

cosmic coyote
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What does BBC stand for and don’t be rude guys

manic torrent
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also, running C/C++ to compile microcontroller stuff .. yes. that is a good use case

native crag
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Only Gods among men code in ASM

cosmic coyote
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BBC micro controller I mean

manic torrent
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The commercial realities escape you

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businesses, for the most part, need code to do stuff.

vapid smelt
cosmic coyote
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Oh ok

manic torrent
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Wholesale Esp32 Esp32s Esp32 Devkit V1 Wireless Wifi Development Board Usb Dual Core. $1.24-$1.68 / piece

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... all tech companies

cosmic coyote
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Should I learn rust

manic torrent
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they don't need fast and effecient code

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they need functional and supportable code.

native crag
cosmic coyote
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Wtf is golang

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Oh so similar to C I’ve done a bit of C

manic torrent
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Backends that are written in C/rust/golang/etc support the much larger codebase of js/python/etc that does business thigns.

cosmic coyote
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I see

manic torrent
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you live in a magical dreamland of technology that doesn't have people

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FOSS projects run the gamut.

cosmic coyote
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No money though.

manic torrent
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I can write C/C++

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so who is going to do the development?

cosmic coyote
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Lmao

manic torrent
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exactly.

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although I don't know wtf twitter has to do with anything

native crag
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"Learn to code" LOL

cosmic coyote
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so cool so I can become a really shit dev and still get paid that gives me hope

manic torrent
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most devs are shit because most people are shit

native crag
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Race to the bottom of a garbage heap more like it

cosmic coyote
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Haha

native crag
cosmic coyote
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it’s great commissioning a written essay from Fiverr from a guy who supposedly has a PhD in psychology but can’t string 2 sentences together

native crag
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When a SQL dev request Domain Admin access, you know you're in for fun times.
It get's more interesting when the on-site IT Manager grants said access.

gaunt hawk
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Its so sad that my steam account is 30 times more worth than my bank account

manic torrent
cosmic coyote
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I’ve decided I’m going high as possible I don’t want to go anywhere near c again

manic torrent
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If you are developing stuff in SQL you've likely taken a terrible turn.

cosmic coyote
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Gimme all the trash languages

full fossil
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I manage my schools website

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Just got promoted but I’m working part time so

vapid smelt
native crag
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I know a few DB devs, but yeah, it' s a siloed craft

gaunt hawk
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Yup

full fossil
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I got my wage increased to

sonic barn
native crag
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Too, or to...what?

sonic barn
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my college uses oracle db

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so we have to learn oracle

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postgres is most often used in entreprise though and its free

native crag
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I'm sorry

manic torrent
sonic barn
manic torrent
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It's very old school.

sonic barn
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its cursed

frail osprey
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can someone help in tech chat 1

frail osprey
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cmon man…. not cool

vapid smelt
frail osprey
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my bad my lil honey

native crag
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Next time don't browse naughty images

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Won't get a virus that way

frail osprey
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couldn’t help myself

cosmic coyote
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is this server advertised as a tech support server

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Because I see people come here solely for that

vapid smelt
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it dose feel that way

cosmic coyote
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I guess it’s a mix

native crag
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Well, yeah. See the channels listed

graceful burrow
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If they did we wouldn't have people spam the same question in 4 different channels at once

native crag
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Right. Apparently not. It's like asking people RTFM before posting on tech-chat

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God forbid anyone download a PDF file. 🙄

graceful burrow
native crag
graceful burrow
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Somehow
With the myriad of tools i had
Google Chrome is still the best fuckin pdf reader ever lmao

native crag
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I mean, they containerize vector graphics well.

graceful burrow
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You know what else does

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An svg lmao

native crag
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PDF is now an open standard if I recall. Patent ran out?

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Same for MP3. It's now open and royalty free.

eager venture
summer folio
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Make patents great again

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70 year after inventor deaths

native crag
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Walt Disney would be proud

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Oh, that's Copyright. Nevermind

summer folio
native crag
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The house of mouse

summer folio
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Both Copyright & patents garbage

native crag
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I'm just glad Ogg Vorbis isn't a thing anymore. It's FLAC or bust

summer folio
native crag
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And vinyl is for the hipster wannabe audiophile

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I'll take 16bit PCM with a good DAC any day.

native crag
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Not that anyone could hear the difference. But, for preserving bit for bit, FLAC is the way to go

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Storage is cheap, so, why not.

cosmic coyote
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I dunno if you cant hear the difference why not just save space

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More for streaming rather than storage i mean

native crag
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Because I care. 🙂

manic torrent
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I store all my 4k movies in lossless formats, because mah pixels

cosmic coyote
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yea same

native crag
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Every pixel perfect, every pixel precious...

cosmic coyote
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I have 2 copies one 4k bluray and one encoded because I cant transcode

native crag
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Handbrake is your friend

cosmic coyote
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that is disgusting

manic torrent
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eyyyy just bought an elgato low profile mic arm

native crag
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I could have welded up one of them

cosmic coyote
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fancy

summer folio
native crag
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Redneck style

manic torrent
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or work as well

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If I wanted jank, I already had a shitty mic arm 🙂

vapid smelt
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i just use a mod mic

native crag
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No, but functional 🙂 But it would be fixed in place 🤣

summer folio
native crag
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I've got a old cable spool for a desk

manic torrent
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I am after aesthetics, and flexibility. Also good "feel"

vapid smelt
native crag
summer folio
manic torrent
native crag
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I mean, could rig a real nice one up with a cheap articulating lamp

manic torrent
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"real nice"

stray apex
native crag
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Tig weld that bad boy up, and angle grinder, and a few coats of spray paint. But if you want to go all fancy, you do powder coat

stray apex
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ah yes

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y'know what's cheaper than a mic arm

eager venture
stray apex
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an entire machine shop

native crag
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You just gotta know people with the right equipment

manic torrent
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I bought it with my work christmas voucher 🙂

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So it's like free real estate

cosmic coyote
native crag
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Not if it was a Christmas bonus

cosmic coyote
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a bonus from being employed

native crag
manic torrent
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but it was a good opportunity to buy something nice I had already considered buying.

eager venture
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is it allowed to pay for someones help here?

manic torrent
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it is actually essential

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(disclaimer: I did not check the rules for this, and I am not a mod, I am not a lawyer, and I make no warrantee either explicit or implied, to the amount permissible by law)

vapid smelt
cosmic coyote
full fossil
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Holy shot coopa you’re old

cosmic coyote
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i am sorry to hear that man

vapid smelt
full fossil
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Coopa has 64000 messages lmao

full fossil
vapid smelt
full fossil
vapid smelt
eager venture
full fossil
vapid smelt
full fossil
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I see your grammar hasn’t improved whatsoever

vapid smelt
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im dyslexic

native crag
full fossil
eager venture
cosmic coyote
vapid smelt
eager venture
full fossil
vapid smelt
native crag
# eager venture 13600k

Just run the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool several times. If it crashes with no error or is random in nature, you're probably underfeeding it power, overheating it, or a RAM issue.

full fossil
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That’s my dads laptop and my moms lotion lmao

cosmic coyote
eager venture
cosmic coyote
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your issues

full fossil
native crag
eager venture
full fossil
cosmic coyote
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how do we go from gaving no gpu to the most expensive gpus

full fossil
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Sometimes the 4070ti loses lmao

cosmic coyote
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what is the logic

eager venture
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i could just buy a a770

full fossil
cosmic coyote
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I mean do you want more issues

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trying to solve an issue you have

eager venture
cosmic coyote
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can literally get any low end gpu to replace that igpu

full fossil
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3090ti ez

cosmic coyote
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and functionally it will be the same as before

frail musk
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gg

eager venture
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if i wait till the summer ill have 2.5k to upgrade my setup tho

tepid bolt
cosmic coyote
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I mean its up to you if you dont want to play csgo until summer

eager venture
tepid bolt
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ue5 works perfectly on Radeon cards

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If anything the extra vram is really going to help

cosmic coyote
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i dont understand whats going on rn

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what is the context for all this

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is this a second rig that you have or something

eager venture
tepid bolt
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That's kinda how it goes right now

cosmic coyote
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but i mean work. you said ue5

tepid bolt
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Unless you got 4090 money It's AMD or AMD

cosmic coyote
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what does that mean

tepid bolt
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Unreal engine 5

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Aka game dev

eager venture
cosmic coyote
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but how do you not have a single gpu but is a game dev

tepid bolt
cosmic coyote
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how does that make any sense

vapid smelt
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if the gpu makes you money a 4090 is worth it

eager venture
cosmic coyote
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so you dont work as a game dev?

eager venture
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no lol

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trying to be one

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or a software engineer

cosmic coyote
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ok cool

tepid bolt
eager venture
cosmic coyote
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thats just insane that people here just ignore details lmao

tepid bolt
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Another reason I'd go Radeon is because all their GPU technologies are open source

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Where as Nvidia's are proprietary

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The only workloads that Nvidia has a huge advantage are 3d rendering and AI/ML

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If you don't do any of those and don't have 4090 money then buy AMD

cosmic coyote
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please keep it in tech support

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for my sanity

eager venture
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i forgot

cosmic coyote
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easiest solution is often the best. just get a cheap second hand gpu and its done.

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worry about gamedev rigs and software rigs later

hasty needle
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Can anyone at LTT use the cable tester to test this USB C cablet from cablecreations?

vapid smelt
cosmic coyote
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an absolute bargain

manic torrent
heady flicker
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or just get something from ugreen

unique needle
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hey, just tryin to get some ideas here, people with custom loops, what are your gpu/cpu temps ?

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can you specify the speed at which you are runnin your pump, the amount of rads and the thickness of the rad, the rpm of the fans too

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wither you have a reservoi or not and the type of coolant is not important

manic torrent
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I have 2x360 rads, one thick, one normal

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I use fancontrol to change the pump speed and fan speed, and do it based on a combination of CPU and GPU temperature.

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I also have an override that runs the exhaust fans higher if the chipset gets hot

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The 3080ti certainly tests it a lot more than the 3070 did 😄

unique needle
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you are ocing it right ?

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can you give me a rough estimates about the temps ?

manic torrent
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to what end? it doesn't really mean much

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you also need to know overclocks, ambient temp, exact specs, case layout, amount of fans, blah blah blah

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that's the "custom" in custom loop

unique needle
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yeah ik

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tho i dont have time to ask you all of this + youll find me annoying

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i am assuming that you have an ambient tmep of like 23c at worst

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case layout is not important as long as reservoir is besides or up the pump and fas are getting enough air

manic torrent
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I mean, while gaming I think the temps are like... 50-60 on the CPU and 60-70 on the GPU?

unique needle
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alright thx

cosmic coyote
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Mine is about the same

full fossil
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Just took a 45 minute shower woohoo

crystal mirage
full fossil
crystal mirage
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cool

cosmic coyote
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What were you doing in the shower

solemn sapphire
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I hope you were at a hotel

unique needle
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from now on this conversation can onl take two very different directions

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as in were you gaming in your shower linus-style or simply showering like a simple peasant ?

cosmic coyote
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Wait there is a Linus gaming shower

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I know there is a bathtub one

unique needle
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ah i am sure he has one

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waiting for asus to sponsor it again lol

lament willow
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where does linus live anyways

eager venture
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do lmg staff even drop by and say hi?

lament willow
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I know bc but where

eager venture
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at this point this server is a linus fan club

unique needle
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in the direction of linus's home

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boiii

cosmic coyote
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Almost dropped my phone into tea

unique needle
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englidh phone what a nice luxury

cosmic coyote
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My god bro

lament willow
unique needle
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would you like searching on google sir i am all ready

cosmic coyote
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The English would hate me I use mugs for tea

lament willow
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wish i could go to the ltx expo

unique needle
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yeah could be fun

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how much are the tickets ?

lament willow
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but theres no way im flying from toronto to bc

eager venture
cosmic coyote
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Yea same

lament willow
echo ridge
cosmic coyote
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The amount of Linus talk on here very small

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Only the most ridiculous pc troubleshooting questions

unique needle
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wait a sec i just found out there is twitch subs too, floatplane aint enough haha

eager venture
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has linus even said a thing in 2022?

lament willow
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can I mail him lol

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think i got a stamp somewhere lying atound

cosmic coyote
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Is there a mkbhd server

eager venture
full fossil
crystal mirage
cosmic coyote
full fossil
unique needle
lament willow
crystal mirage
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what no

lament willow
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im not paying international postage

cosmic coyote
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I’m surprised Linus hasn’t burnt out

eager venture
cosmic coyote
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actually insane what he does

unreal thorn
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Nobody needs to know where Linus lives

cosmic coyote
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I guess it’s how he makes his living

unreal thorn
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Out of respect you shouldn't even look it up

lament willow
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ill just mail linus media group xd

unique needle
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a pigeon with a letter might have more chance of getting an answer lol

cosmic coyote
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Did Linus ever do fan unboxings

lament willow
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oh yeah why does linus sell jerryrig knives

manic torrent
unique needle
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cause he makes some money through them

lament willow
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huh

unique needle
lament willow
eager venture
unique needle
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and cause he is preparing the platform to becoming a reseller buisness

snow latch
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First time I join on this server and this is what I witness

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Interesting...

gilded plinth
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Welcome

unique needle
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prepare yourself

cosmic coyote
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Didn’t markaplier go nude

lament willow
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linus crackhead

lament willow
eager venture
snow latch
cosmic coyote
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Ludwig’s nutsack leaks

unique needle
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but ofc welcome and have a great time here

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enjoy !

lament willow
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jerryrig knife arrives wednesday :D

cosmic coyote
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Nice

lament willow
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had to pay $18 cad shipping which was scammy

cosmic coyote
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How much is the knife itself

heady flicker
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shipping is expensive

lament willow
cosmic coyote
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Oh haha

snow latch
unique needle
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wait you did get it. I find it hard to accept to buy anything from the lmg site cause of us pricing, its straight out ripping cad consummers though ik why its the case

lament willow
cosmic coyote
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Yea I think $18 international sounds normal

opaque mantle
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I need some help with Andrioid. It's related to targeting, just need to find out how to turn it off.

vapid smelt
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@wraith sonnet my only noctua fan in my pc

cosmic coyote
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Targeting bro like an assassin

lament willow
opaque mantle
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Ads are off. But it's picking up conversations and displays "news" based on them

lament willow
wraith sonnet
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I never thought about doing a chipset mod

cosmic coyote
wraith sonnet
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Coop you're giving me bad ideas

vapid smelt
lament willow
wraith sonnet
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I'm going to ruin a 300 dollar B550 mobo aren't I

unique needle
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then you proceed to get a 50x times more expensive fan haha

lament willow
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my house to niagara falls is already 2.5 hours

crystal mirage
cosmic coyote
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Use $200 in petrol for $15 knife KEKW

lament willow
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heck i saved shipping

cosmic coyote
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Exactly haha

full fossil
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@cosmic coyote dongus

unique needle
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not if you drive 🌩️

vapid smelt
cosmic coyote
wraith sonnet
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You do understand that you could just buy the adapter

vapid smelt
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No that's too much work

wraith sonnet
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Printing the rocket launcher rn

opaque mantle
unique needle
wraith sonnet
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Any guesses who's autograph that is?

lament willow
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letsgo my package estimate is tomorrow

lament willow
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monoprice mini gang

vapid smelt
lament willow
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got two of those babys

wraith sonnet
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Best printer by FAR

lament willow
lament willow
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lcd works fine but the esp brokie

unique needle
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use it old fashion like caveman used too no screen

wraith sonnet
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Get replacement parts?

lament willow
wraith sonnet
cosmic coyote
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Octopi

lament willow
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Usb port broken

cosmic coyote
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rip

wraith sonnet
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Wait that's what the USB port is for?

cosmic coyote
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Yea

lament willow
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so i ripped the screen off my other one and it used to use octopi

wraith sonnet
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I'll be honest I've had no clue wtf the USB port is for on my select mini v2

lament willow
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had to use the pi for something else and one machine is useless now

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Quite sad

unique needle
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cant you diy it ?

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are there any schematics avaiblable online ?

wraith sonnet
lament willow
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i dont feel like spending $40 for a new board

unique needle
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i see

lament willow
unique needle
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crap

lament willow
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technically i could solder a few wires and reflash the chip but too lazy to do tha

unique needle
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x570 boards truly have LOTS of pci-e lanes

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was watching the diagram coop posted

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put to shame my b450 haha

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by the way you saw what Samsung is tryin to do. If they are succesful they could do the worst harm in i believe history of phone repairs

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US lawmakers and organisations supposed to fight monopolistic behaviour should'nt let that slip in

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thing is this goes way beyond phones in generals its about all amoled screens which is insane. Granted its for amoled screens from smasung siplays but who is supplying those screens other than them anyways

vapid smelt
fierce moth
wraith sonnet
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I meant the gamers Nexus thing but okay?

unique needle
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thing is, i believe hardly anyone would actually be happy having a wonderful screen replaced with a low cost one that could have wayy worse input latency and even dismiss some nice-to-have like high refresh rate. the thing is that if this is succesful it will mean very bad things for other types of repairs. And also, atleast with a low cost screen you can still use the device if only the basics are important

full fossil
vapid smelt
fierce moth
unique needle
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wait a noctua screwdriver, does it come wth the fan ?

vapid smelt
full fossil
crystal mirage
full fossil
unique needle
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from tthe picture it sure dosent have any ratcheting mecanism tho but meh, its an addon product

vapid smelt
crystal mirage
fierce moth
crystal mirage
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and also statistically it is expensive to have children

full fossil
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ill take that as a compliment

crystal mirage
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sure take it which ever way you want

unique needle
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that twist thats a nice comedy trick

full fossil
fierce moth
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Ayo

crystal mirage
unique needle
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air cooling entire body

full fossil
fierce moth
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Also education is important

full fossil
fierce moth
full fossil
pine goblet
crystal mirage
full fossil
pine goblet
fierce moth
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There's gotta be some loopholes with genies

unique needle
pine goblet
full fossil
crystal mirage
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so that is better than nothing

fierce moth
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Like, you know how Midas was like dying cause of his gold stuff, he could of said "I wish to make everything I touch turn to gold in the interest that it would benifit me"

pine goblet
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Genies and their clever loopholes.

mild elm
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His gloves would become gold

fierce moth
full fossil
fierce moth
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Cause as soon as the food touched his lips it turned to gold

mild elm
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Fair point

dull granite
dull granite
unique needle
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if only a genie could come and make my pc shut up, that noise is destroying me each day a little bit

mild elm
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His gloves would be very heavy

fierce moth
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Good way to make weapons tho

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Just make a cardboard sword

pine goblet
fierce moth
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And get Midas to touch it

full fossil
fierce moth
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You gotta think of those loopholes

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"wish lawyers, double check your wish so it doesn't fuck you up"

dusty rune
fierce moth
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Don't have to get expensive iron

echo ridge
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But I want one

full fossil
jaunty compass
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I managed to convert the model I was using for use with my amd gpu

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It's not particularly fast but it runs

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This stuff is built for ckpt and using with a cuda thingy but I obviously can't do that so I had to convert it to something else

vapid smelt
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it works!

fervent prairie
echo ridge
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What does

jaunty compass
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I assume it's for chipset cooling

vapid smelt
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like all x570 mbos mine started to die

neon mesa
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boom earth go die

full fossil
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@fierce moth actually gold is pretty soft, wouldn’t make a good weapon

fierce moth
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better than nothing

fierce moth
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just make battle hammers

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get midas to touch it

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and the sheer force will solve the problem

simple quail
stark rune
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when a streamer has one pc for gaming and another for streaming how does that work?

full fossil
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Does Midas turn each atom into gold, or does he break down every atom and rearrange the electrons and protons and neutrons to make gold

fierce moth
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idk

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ask the person who gave him the wish

full fossil
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Pick one

fierce moth
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id assume it would turn each atom to gold

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cause apparently midas turned his daughter to gold

full fossil
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Okay

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That just means it’d be really heavy

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If it reconstructed each atom into gold it’d be really bad

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@fierce moth watch the video by kurzgesagt on Midas

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It’s really interesting

fierce moth
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if midas had a keyboard back then

full fossil
fierce moth
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wouldnt his keycaps become gold

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or the entire board

full fossil
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fish shell is so much better TwT

past egret
fierce moth
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but its fun to read into it too much

past egret
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then you have an unsatisfiable hypothesis

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does air count?

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how much does midas power really count

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is he technically in contact of himself?

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how much of a particle is considered an object

full fossil
#

oh no, my company lost a bunch of money again

small zephyr
#

the anycubic kobra go worth getting as first 3d printer?

jaunty compass
past egret
#

what about semi solid

jaunty compass
#

Idk

past egret
#

fairy tales are dumb

fierce moth
#

Does your shit become gold?

past egret
#

probably

full fossil
#

Pls LTT do review on 13900ks

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6.0ghz!

small zephyr
#

should i go for an anycubic kobra go or ender 3?

vapid smelt
full fossil
small zephyr
#

🤔 yeah i get the ender 3 its 15bucks less and gives me 1kg filament

jaunty compass
wanton glade
#

'sup

jaunty compass
#

No, wait I'm thinking of someone else

wanton glade
#

you're probably thinking of cpubenchmark 💀

jaunty compass
#

Who?

wanton glade
#

asked it's a shitty website with biased benchmarks

jaunty compass
#

You mean userbenchmark

wanton glade
#

yeah my bad

jaunty compass
#

Goofy ass

wanton glade
#

that thing is garbage

wanton glade
jaunty compass
#

I think I was thinking of him, maybe

wanton glade
#

@jaunty compass you like beat saber ?

jaunty compass
#

Congratulations on reading my bio

wanton glade
#

yes

full fossil
vapid smelt
#

look at them thermals

wanton glade
#

damn

full fossil
wanton glade
#

💀

jaunty compass
#

Now that's a lot of watts and degrees

Fire hazard PC with 13900KS and 4090 when

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Gotta use the AliExpress power supply

wanton glade
#

nah that's the tutorial to create a custom bomb

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shit gonna boom your house

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if you play warzone with that pc, ingame grenades will explode irl

jaunty compass
#

The problem here is that you're playing warzone

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Idk man
All of these online battle Royale games really aren't doing it for me
They're all not very good

wanton glade
#

yeah saem

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mid asf, never played warzone

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I used to play fortnite and apex

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and then, I discovered triple a titles (check my bio)

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now I play spiderman, say what you want but this be the best game in da worl

jaunty compass
#

Eh
I didn't play it

wanton glade
#

very gud

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it's a short game tho, but you can still chill and swing around if you're bored, so it's fine

#

Horizon zero dawn is another of my favorites

jaunty compass
#

I've been meaning to play it on deck, I'll probably get around to it when local network steam downloads work

south stone
#

Why is no one reviewing the vetroo u6 😮

@quiet gazelle how is it performing for you? 😮

wide copper
viscid pond
#

bro guys guess whatg

wanton glade
#

ye

viscid pond
#

The "XFX Speedster SWFT210 Radeon RX 6650XT" Is out of stock

wanton glade
#

skill issue, get a job

viscid pond
#

The the lowest price in any store is $544

wanton glade
#

💀

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6700xt is cheaper i bet

viscid pond
#

I got one b4 it went out of stock

wanton glade
#

gg

viscid pond
#

when it only costed $300

wanton glade
#

now sell it for double the price

viscid pond
#

bet

wanton glade
#

lmao

neon mesa
#

smh intel

wanton glade
full fossil
#

Reports say the 13900ks can hit 200+ watts

wide copper
#

Easily

full fossil
#

Wtf

wide copper
#

its just a better binned 13900K

full fossil
#

Ik

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AMD should make better binned 7950X

wide copper
#

everything you'd expect from the 13900k behaviour wise, you can apply to the KS, just at even higher of a power draw

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

Although I don't get why Intel markets this towards the average consumer

full fossil
wide copper
#

this shit only interests the Overclockers

tepid bolt
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because how else can they compete

full fossil
#

I wouldn’t oc to 6ghz

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I’d stick with a 5.8

tepid bolt
#

at the low end intel is best but as you put up the dollars their value propositon crumbles

wide copper
#

I'll wait until Zen 4 X3D has reviews before I upgrade from the 11700k

full fossil
#

Ehh

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I’m on a 5800X chillin

wide copper
#

My concern is only one CCD has 3d cache

full fossil
#

Fr?

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

yep

wide copper
full fossil
#

💀

wide copper
#

where some of these issues rear their ugly head

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

15% uplift?

tepid bolt
#

on average

wide copper
#

while that'd be quite nice, I doubt it

tepid bolt
#

your results will vary

#

from no change to like a 25% improvement

wide copper
#

Zen 4 is a lot less staved for bandwidth than Zen 3 was

full fossil
#

Next upgrade for me

#

I’m going intel next upgrade

tepid bolt
#

for 14th gen

#

?

full fossil
#

Maybe

wide copper
#

I'd love to finally go Ryzen, but nothing has quite interested me atm

full fossil
#

I’ll wait a few years

#

I just upgraded my rig like last year

wide copper
#

Granted I got my 8600k for free, and my 10600k I got off a mate working at Intel's Fab 14

wide copper
#

Intel employees get an employee discount of 50% off for I think 3 purchases a year

full fossil
#

Sheesh

wide copper
#

so yeah half price 10600k was rather nice

wanton glade
#

intel pov : let's make mid shit that consumes too much power and can't be overclocked, and dream to compete with amd :D

wide copper
#

then I swapped to a 11700k as the price of my board dropped to less than half price

wide copper
#

was one of the major issues from alder lake it fixed

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(also I've yet to see Zen 4 do DDR5-7000, let alone DDR5-8000 on air)

tepid bolt
#

That because of FCLK limitations

#

Wait until the APUs drop

wanton glade
tepid bolt
#

They'll do ddr5 8000 no problem

wide copper
tepid bolt
#

All zen 4 boards are overkill lol

#

Even the cheap shit ds3h is better than most b550s

wide copper
#

Yeah but not in the area's that count

tepid bolt
#

Vrms is what counts

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Vrms and pcie lanes

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Every else are niches

wide copper
#

I'd say memory topology and UEFI count more these days

tepid bolt
#

Those are very much niches

wide copper
#

Like ignoring the complete lack of OC boards for the platform, even the 2DPC boards are mid

tepid bolt
#

For what you want them sure

wide copper
#

Not to mention AMD has still yet to fix their safe boot implementation

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which makes RAM OC fucking painful

tepid bolt
#

Ryzen was never good for RAM overclocking

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Well the APUs are

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But regular skus nah

#

Also 98% of people aren't going to spend 7 hours overclocking and verifying ram

wide copper
#

for the average user, who fucking cares right, you just pick whatever is the best performance for your budget

#

but for me, I give a shit about this

tepid bolt
#

It's not surprising Intel uses more power, they're on an inferior node and architecture. If anything it's impressive they're not farther behind.

wide copper
#

Node isn't everything

tepid bolt
#

It helps a ton with efficiency

wide copper
#

Not to mention using node as a quantifier for anything is misleading

#

especially as there is no standard way of measuring transistor density

#

with 10nm enhanced superfin being the same transistor size as TMSC 7nm for instance

tepid bolt
#

Intel's 10nm node is comparable to tsmc 8nm

wide copper
#

(hence Intel's rebranding of that node as Intel 7)

tepid bolt
#

Intel won't be competitive with tsmc 5nm until their next iteration

#

20A I think it is

oak pebble
#

Kekses ka veikiat

wide copper
#

at the end of the day, all I care for is performance and OC headroom

#

currently Intel holds that crown for now

tepid bolt
#

Performance crown goes to AMD, OC headroom intel is definitely there.

wide copper
#

Granted I'm exciting to see how 3d cache will make up for a lot of Zen 4's current shortcomings

tepid bolt
#

Like every

wide copper
#

outside of anything AVX512, the 7950x loses to the 13900k

tepid bolt
#

The 13900k barely manages to match the 7950x at double the wattage

#

And when power constrained the 7950x barely loses any performance

wanton glade
tepid bolt
#

OC headroom is just dying gen after gen

wanton glade
#

unless they're cheaper, and I wanna argue about that

wanton glade
tepid bolt
#

Binning between models is more consistent too

#

It's why the Silicon Lottery store shutdown

wanton glade
#

what's binning

tepid bolt
#

It's wasn't worth their time to do binning and resale

tepid bolt
#

Same goes for GPUs

wide copper
#

Wins in the following
CB r23 (both single and multi)
Blender
Corona
Keyshot
UE5 development
VS C++ compile
Tensorflow
COMSOL
NAMD
Genome Analysis
Photoshop
After Effects
MySQL
NoSQL
OpenJDK
ASP .NET
WinRAR compression
7zip Compression
RPCS3
Ryujinx
AV1 encoding
Wins in TPU's Gaming benchmarks (Geometric mean)

@tepid bolt what performance crown?

wanton glade
#

💀

tepid bolt
#

Takes 5 clicks in bios

wide copper
#

we can do this all fucking day mate

tepid bolt
#

But one won't trip your psu

#

And won't require watercooling

wide copper
#

My 6950xt trips my PSU thanks

tepid bolt
#

It's the 11700k that does

wide copper
#

actually chews more power than an OC'd 13900k too

tepid bolt
#

Mine can pull like 440w

wide copper
#

MPT is a hell of a drug

tepid bolt
#

And OC'd 13900k is 300w+

wide copper
#

and?

#

I have the PSU now to deal with it

tepid bolt
#

That's not less than 240w

wide copper
#

so again I'll ask

#

what performance crown

#

you've as yet posted benchmarks proving your claims

tepid bolt
#

I'm not wasting my time when it's a google search away

wide copper
#

well if its a google search away, surely you've shared it by now?

#

so again, what performance crown

tepid bolt
#

The one that the 7950x has

wide copper
#

which performance crown

tepid bolt
#

The Zen 4 one

wide copper
#

which performance crown?

tepid bolt
#

The single thread and efficiency one

wide copper
#

what performance crown?

tepid bolt
wide copper
tepid bolt
#

Google ryzen 7000 CO -30

wide copper
#

I have a nice bourbon, I can do this all night

wide copper
tepid bolt
wide copper
# tepid bolt ^

already showed the 13900k beating the 7950x in single threaded

#

so what performance crown?

tepid bolt
#

Under stock operation sure

wide copper
#

what performance crown

tepid bolt
#

But it's like buying a new ram kit and not enabling xmp

wide copper
#

what performance crown

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

so you've not posted proof and you want me to take you seriously?

#

kek man people here can be rather braindead huh

wanton glade
wanton glade
wide copper
#

I'm still waiting

wanton glade
#

you asked 8 times KEKW

full fossil
#

Humanity will end

wide copper
wide copper
wanton glade
wanton glade
#

middle school brats be dealing drugs nowadays

kind tinsel
plain flower
#

Burden of proof!

supple lotus
plain flower
#

How dare you ask which sources I got my information from

tepid bolt
kind tinsel
#

Look Intel & AMD both win okay..

tepid bolt
supple lotus
#

NO

wanton glade
#

bruh istg schoo ain't a place safe anymore

supple lotus
wanton glade
#

you don't learn shit in there

tepid bolt
wanton glade
#

i live in France, it's fucked up

wide copper
supple lotus
#

i live on turkey lmao

wide copper
#

from 19000 to 20000 r23

wanton glade
#

bruh, primary school kids know what intercourse is

wide copper
#

wow

tepid bolt
#

You're welcome

wide copper
#

still loses to the 13900k tho

tepid bolt
#

Sure bud

wide copper
#

so what performance crown?

supple lotus
#

i want to explode intels headquarters

wanton glade
#

and that's not the worst

tepid bolt
#

Aren't you like 17...

#

That's very fucked up thing to say

wide copper
#

actually that isn't fair, that video was of the 7700x, which loses to the 13600k in MT

tepid bolt
#

Yes intel crushes the low end

wide copper
#

So I ask again, what performance crown

wanton glade
young bluff
#

There is an x3d variant coming

supple lotus
#

why S0 sleep exists

plain flower
wanton glade
#

now u do

tepid bolt
plain flower
#

No, I still wish I didn't know that

tepid bolt
#

Moneke have bornana

wide copper
plain flower
# tepid bolt Moneke have bornana

Chimpanzees aren't monkeys, first of all. I see your lack of skill when it comes to finding information doesn't just apply to computer hardware

Shame

tepid bolt
#

I'm too good for this server

south stone
#

I'd rather have both companies trading blows with each other, that brings innovation. Who wins? Whoever gets the cheapest so my wallet can afford it.

plain flower
#

You keep telling yourself that

tepid bolt
#

I don't have to dw

plain flower
#

Eventually, you'll believe it too

wide copper
south stone
#

Well aren't you guys arguing over intel vs amd?

supple lotus
#

oh intel and amd

wanton glade
south stone
#

13900xksxsx vs x7950xfxxx

wide copper
#

I've made my point already

supple lotus
#

well are u a gamer or a coder

plain flower
wide copper
tepid bolt
supple lotus
tepid bolt
#

And there's blatantly biased people who are fun to make fun of too

south stone
#

Well is there room to improve the new cpus? They all seem to come factory super overclocked already 😛 (I M O)

tepid bolt
#

Not really no

south stone
#

More like "lets get 95% the performance at 1/3 the power consumption" is the trend nowadays xD

wide copper
#

is it worth the effort, probably not
is there still performance to be found, yes

wanton glade
plain flower
tepid bolt
#

Overclocking is a dying trend with new boosting algorithms

plain flower
wide copper
#

for 95~99% of people here, CPU overclocking might as well be dead

south stone
#

But I love the idea of new tweaks to keep people entertained.

supple lotus
young bluff
wide copper
#

hell GPU overclocking now might as well be dead too

south stone
#

The whole undervolt + slight overclock to get same performance at reduced power consumption is appealing. 😛

#

And europeans would probably love the efficiency of the 7900 (non x) (for example)

wide copper
south stone
plain flower
supple lotus
tepid bolt
#

The only thing is that the 7900 is power limited stock

wide copper
#

It just annoys me when people sprout fucking bullshit while clearly not knowing what they're talking about

supple lotus
#

i did overclock it to 1.6 ghz

fierce moth
#

sure sucks that the US is on 120v

#

and everyone else uses 240v

tepid bolt
#

115v on most households

wide copper
supple lotus
#

i didnt even need to increase the voltage

young bluff
fierce moth
tepid bolt
#

It's just a byproduct of having unlocked CPUs regardless of chipset

wide copper
#

also god Gigabyte's site sucks

wide copper
supple lotus
tepid bolt
#

Gigabyte sucks on a lot of fronts

plain flower
#

Every board manufacturer's website is ass, to be fair

wide copper
#

EVGA is probs the best by far

#

probs because it has nearly zero bullshit animations

tepid bolt
#

EVGA and Sapphire for sure

plain flower
#

Finding any useful information on them is often a challenge

wide copper
#

Sapphire doesn't make boards anymore kek

tepid bolt
#

EVGA doesn't make GPUs anymore OMEGALUL

wide copper
#

I kinda want them to do so again, some of their old boards were kinda neat

#

yeah big oof, was looking forward to a 4090 kingpin

#

this 6950xt is pissing me off

#

the only thing it does well is overclock

plain flower
#

Do it

supple lotus
#

do it

tepid bolt
#

Dew it

#

(What is he doing?)

supple lotus
#

i am forced to buy a RX 6400 becuz of my cpu lol

plain flower
#

@wide copper consoom

young bluff
supple lotus
#

but i wanted RX 6600

tepid bolt
#

Why 6400?

supple lotus
tepid bolt
#

I don't understand

#

Why not used rx 580

wide copper
supple lotus
#

i codunlt find it

wide copper
#

3k aud is still rather a hard pill to swallow

supple lotus
#

on newegg

tepid bolt
plain flower
wide copper
#

I'm tempted to just get a 4080 and get it over and done with

supple lotus
#

like a gpu that someone peed on t

young bluff
plain flower
full fossil
plain flower
wide copper
#

If I suffer another driver timeout, I'm taking a fat shit on Lisa Su's desk

supple lotus
#

some RX 580 comes with modified bios + mined 10 years on it

tepid bolt
#

You sure your OC is stable

wide copper
#

and it happens even with no load, so I doubt its clocks

plain flower
#

Good thing 580's aren't your only option in the used market

wide copper
#

I'm not the only one suffering either

tepid bolt
#

I haven't used Nvidia since Maxwell and ever since I swapped I haven't had driver issues

supple lotus
wide copper
#

I know another guy with a bone stock 6900xt suffering from it too

supple lotus
#

they sell a rtx 3060 like 1 grand

#
  • it was used
wide copper
#

and I can't revert earlier than 22.9.1 due to MW2

tepid bolt
plain flower
#

That sucks

wide copper
tepid bolt
#

I'm on 22.11.2

wide copper
#

the only thing I can think of is my multi monitor setup

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

4k 144hz
4k 60hz
1080p 280hz

supple lotus
#

amds open source vulkan linux driver is awesome

wide copper
tepid bolt
#

So it's just random

wide copper
#

yep

tepid bolt
#

Lmao

wide copper
#

that's what's pissing me off the most

#

if it wasn't random I could do more to fix it

#

or at the very least work around it

#

at the moment the work around is "buy an Nvidia card"

#

granted 22.11.1 has dropped the frequency down

tepid bolt
wide copper
#

so fingers crossed it might eventually fix itself

tepid bolt
#

It's just Nvidia whose linux drivers make them lose 20% performance for no reason

wide copper
#

I can't even boot linux, so running off to linux isn't even an option

supple lotus
tepid bolt
#

Pretty embarrassing considering just Nvidia software team is bigger than the entirety of Radeon

supple lotus
#

and amd is kicking intel and nvidia

#

that why radeon team is smaller than nvidias teeam

tepid bolt
#

No it's because they have less funding

supple lotus
#

yeah

#

but they need to fund the CPU side too

tepid bolt
#

Also a bunch of the Radeon technologies team went to work for Intel

#

Raja koduri who is the lead engineer of the Arc GPUs also made the Polaris and helped develop Vega

supple lotus
#

the main problem is the drivers on amd gpus

tepid bolt
#

Drivers are fine

supple lotus
#

well on linux side they are better than nvidia

#

and also amd prorender isnt well supported on linux

#

the main problems looks like cuz of opencl packages

slim mirage
#

With adverts and all restrictions on the content available sounds like a good deal to me

golden spoke
#

Any recommendations on a "gaming" laptop?
I have already gotten 2 defective Rog zephyrus G15's, and i don't want a third

slim mirage
warm elk
#

A Linux distro i use has modern NVIDIA graphics available actually

fierce moth
#

uh almost every distro does?

manic torrent
#

The concept... It is proven!

full fossil
green locust
#

minions rise of gru is on Netflix finally

#

I know I’m probably to old to watch it, but I have to shrug

green locust
#

neverrrrr

full fossil
#

lol