public-chat

[pliant karma]

Actually crossed Canadian border last night they just ask if what your taking. Me camera gear…go ahead no further questions asked

[rugged bridge]

Did yall hear apparently HP got hacked?

[slate agate]

you can't mine ETH anymore anyways ;p

[ruby venture]

So 40 series Is good for mining

[sterile rivet]

No

[kindred coral]

Nicee

[pliant karma]

I have my drone with me which I never said but time to see if I can even fly that thing in cold weather

[wraith sonnet]

yeah but I still would be looking like a crazy mf not cooling this system somewhat properly

[sonic barn]

you know there's cameras everywhere

[pliant karma]

Oh yea cameras everywhere I know

[sonic barn]

yeah and rcmp are dumb dumb

the horses are cool

but they should switch back to polar bears

[pliant karma]

👀

[summer folio]

I just linked a song to a deaf person

again

[pliant karma]

Lol remoted into my headless pc last night 2200 miles from home to dump go pro footage to the cloud

[wraith sonnet]

the original candidates for my ltx build(s?) were -modern high end with green pcb's, -ratted out modern cooling on a TJ09 with the ability to have an external heat exchanger using quick connects, -the ammo can build, -the spite build, -fuck you builds entirely intel based system

[rugged bridge]

My internet would be too slow to do that kind of stuff lol

[pliant karma]

Lol my home wifi is 15 up/down no joke but when I’m on vacation that’s when I just peg the network

[rugged bridge]

Fair

[chilly hare]

should I go for a 3070 or wait for the 4070? Do we have any idea when that's coming out?

[rugged bridge]

Ok then not too bad

My up is about 15 as well

[pliant karma]

My grandparents don’t use wifi much. We have a guest over atm so I’m like pray you can even use WiFi

[normal imp]

why does an entirely intel based system sound like a nightmare wrapped in blue plastic wrap

[wraith sonnet]

optane, intel ssd, a770 etc

oh and that weird cooling thing they did for 10th/11th gen

[normal imp]

please enlighten me on this "cooling system"

[wraith sonnet]

intel cry cooling, it was a weird tek cooling thing

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml360-sub-zero/ here's a cooler master one

[pliant karma]

Ahhh yes the one Colton almost had but he bought an h510

[wraith sonnet]

when I said all intel I meant all intel

[pliant karma]

Lol

[wraith sonnet]

except for the ram because they don't do that anymore

[pliant karma]

Intel sticker and call it a day.

[wraith sonnet]

probably even see if I could get an intel mobo off someone from xidax

although those totally don't exist

[lean bay]

why are these computers so damm expensive. IT's to much.
You could used to buy a nice computer for a bit more then $1000.
Im here spending $3600. on this pc. Damm component broke on me. Had it replaced. whatever. Then only thinking how much it will be in a couple years for upgrade or another one.
Why. Cyberpunk with the 3070ti i got doesn't play on max setting 120fps. more like 40 fps if im lucky. Im lowering stuff alot.
Meh pc games always more demanding then provided hardware. Remember crysis.
Sorry I barly make a income. whatever

[wraith sonnet]

anyone know of an intel case?

[mental oxide]

4K gaming is more expensive than VR gaming

[wraith sonnet]

unless you use an a770

[normal imp]

look, if you have a 3070ti, you don't have much to complain about
you can also just lower the graphics settings

[stray apex]

How tf you spending 3k on a 3070ti

Is this aud or something

[mental oxide]

Interesting

[lean bay]

I know.
You would think computers would have funding. More support.
It's a necessity.
I should be able to get a pc for dirt cheep, a top end one as well. For the common people.

[mental oxide]

I spent $1280 on 4090 no gift cards

[fluid ridge]

a 3070ti is a pretty mid range card

especially after the release of the new 40 series

[normal imp]

have you ever thought about the price of the equipment, labor, and raw materials that go into making the parts of a pc?

[wraith sonnet]

I had an a770 benchmark higher on 4k than 1080p using superposition

[graceful burrow]

Why would you think corporations care about giving people what they want or what should be when it's easier and more profitable to squeeze as much cash as possible
You live in lala land my guy

[stray apex]

Yeah, so how the cursed hell is a 3070ti in a $3600 build

[lean bay]

I understand. Why isn't it more funded then. By government and rich people.

[fluid ridge]

because it's not profitable

[normal imp]

why would people with power want to give away power for no gain to themselves?

[graceful burrow]

The government and rich people don't fucking care?

[lean bay]

I only see the highest quialty materals if I tell you the truth. Lots of gold and ect.
Most smartest people probably designed it as well on planet earth.

[fluid ridge]

the only reason why anything exists is because someone somewhere started a company or a product in order to capitalize on it

[wraith sonnet]

because consumer and enterprise are seperate development paths?

[normal imp]

my brother in christ, stop complaining, save for a pc, and build the one of your dreams when you have the money

[mental oxide]

He spent $1.2k on gigabytes asinine claims on the z690 tachyon aorus and then bought 8000 Mhz ram and a 13900KS, with direct die and tek cooling

[stray apex]

Lmaooo

So that's their target audience

[normal imp]

correct me if i'm wrong, but is direct die cooling literally applying the heatsink/waterblock directly to the silicon?

[wraith sonnet]

the only direct die cooling you even want right now is the original r7kX procs

[stray apex]

Yeah, you skip the heatspreader

[low vessel]

will a 3080 ti be better then a 4070 ti?

[wraith sonnet]

for fucks sake DO NOT ENCOURAGE NVIDIA DON'T BUY 40 SERIES

[normal imp]

is amd better or are all corporations pretty much the same

[sonic barn]

found the fanboy

[wraith sonnet]

it's people that spend that much goddamned money that bring us to this position where we're spending 1K+ on high tier

[lean bay]

Im already saving for a better card.
By the time ill get a new one it will be a 6080 or whatever the best card is out.
I hope the cost is down.
Sacrifices and lots of job hours i guess.
To game and do stuff on the net

[full fossil]

Is a rx 7900 xt a mid range card

[wraith sonnet]

I literally have a dedicated physX card my guy

[mental oxide]

Yea the kit is $340, tek cooling is $550

[full fossil]

All corporations are the same

You just pick what bs you wanna deal with as they all give different bs

[spring summit]

people will buy it anyway, you wont change anything by not buying it

[wraith sonnet]

in what world is spending 900 USD on any gpu mid range

[sonic barn]

the arc cards have broken drivers still and its a gamble with whether the future support will remain as intel is just now asking for more money and pausing some fabs since their debt load is too high

don't neglect different markets

[full fossil]

What would the card be considered? High end?

[low vessel]

so is the 3080 ti a high end card?

[stray apex]

Yes

[sonic barn]

buy whatever card you want

[fluid ridge]

relative to what you compare it to

[stray apex]

Nah

[lean bay]

every year they keep upgrading.
Every year they have a breakthru of more computer power.
It's kinda weird if you think about it.

[stray apex]

It costs nearly $1k

[wraith sonnet]

I never said buy arc, I would buy arc but I purely want all three manufacturers in my system because it's cool

[fluid ridge]

the 3070 was intended as a mid range card

[mental oxide]

A 3090 is $700 so 3080 Ti is mid-range

[fluid ridge]

and?

[stray apex]

And what?

[fluid ridge]

a 3090ti was almost 2000 dollars

[wraith sonnet]

the 3070 was supposed to cost 400 USD

[fluid ridge]

mid range card, mid range price yes

[wraith sonnet]

and that costs 1.2 k now

[fluid ridge]

people seem to not understand how nvidias naming convention works

[normal imp]

you don't NEED the top end card to do literally anything
you can play a lot of games on a 3070 and do a lot of things

[stray apex]

Nvidia's naming convention doesn't mean shit

[spring summit]

where did you get that from

[fluid ridge]

🤷

[mental oxide]

👔

[stray apex]

4080 12gb is hardly a midrange card

[wraith sonnet]

whoops 500 usd but what the fuck ever

[fluid ridge]

what are you comparing it to

when we say things like "midrange" what is the "range" in the "midrange" we are looking at

[lean bay]

I know.
I mostly play cs and UT 3.
But time to time i buy a new game.
Really new card today is for games 2 years back. new games sacrifices

[fluid ridge]

i feel like there's a discrepancy in what you are looking at and what i am looking at

[stray apex]

In the modern market, obviously

[mental oxide]

There is nothing mid range about 4k 120fps gaming

[graceful burrow]

4k 120fps in what

[stray apex]

So?

[wraith sonnet]

the used market is a thing that exists

[graceful burrow]

Doom 1 from 1993

[mental oxide]

The TV alone are $900+

[sonic barn]

same I mainly play cs

I have a 2070 super got in 2019

[wraith sonnet]

instead of wasting 30% on a new in box, pocket the money and ask if they have the receipt

[fluid ridge]

great, so im comparing the 3070 to both the lower end of nvidias product stack (the 3050s, 3060s, 2070s, etc.) against the higher end of their stack right now (the 3090s, the 4080s, 4090s, etc.)

we can thus deduce that the 3070 is a perfectly adequate, but midrange card

[wraith sonnet]

like god damn you don't need NIB

[normal imp]

you know game developers will actually tailor their lowest graphics settings to the most common graphics card used, which according to steam is the 1650
which means you can DEFINITELY play most of the games you want to play, maybe not on high settings, but certainly you can play them

[lean bay]

i upgraded from a gtx680 to a 3070ti. I should of put more money into a 3080. I bought it when it was low stock. I just wanted something then and didn't want to wait any longer. lucky i got that card

[stray apex]

By that metric, we can compare the 3050 to every Nvidia GPU ever made and conclude that the 3050 is a super high end card

[mental oxide]

People dont seem to remember that AIBs were charging $800 for 3070s

[full fossil]

Modern gpus out rn

[fluid ridge]

you just said "in the modern market"

[wraith sonnet]

also Iheuzio, I don't own a arc card. I have a 6600 and a 710 in my system.

[normal imp]

humans always want the next thing that they can get

[fluid ridge]

if you want to do that too, you could do that

but the reality is nobody uses nvidias first or second GPU

[normal imp]

and we never contemplate what we have and how good we have it

[stray apex]

Yes, you actually use things like price and performance expected, not just compare the gpus

[fluid ridge]

i dont even know what nvidias first GPU was

[wraith sonnet]

I may be an intel fanboy but it's because they actually put out cool shit like thunderbolt

[fluid ridge]

thats how you determine value, not how you determine where the product sits on the lineup lol

[stray apex]

3070 is $500-600 USD, which is either very high midrange or low high end pricing

[wraith sonnet]

I don't even own a modern intel cpu

[fluid ridge]

if you want to determine where the product sits on the lineup, you compare it against other cards in the lineup

🫡 this seems relatively like common sense

[stray apex]

Why the fuck should I care what Nvidia's lineup is?

[wraith sonnet]

the newest intel cpu I own is a 750k

[sonic barn]

I'm just saying that if you recommend arc without knowing its issues then you're making someone else buy a card thinking its better

[stray apex]

All that matters is price and performance

[fluid ridge]

... because you are trying to figure out what is midrange, high range, low range

[fluid ridge]

that has nothing to do with range

[fluid ridge]

and i agree with this

[sonic barn]

its like a preorder, it could get better or it could not and you're stuck with a broken card

[stray apex]

That has everything to do with it

[wraith sonnet]

I say it with experience working on it from a retail perspective. I literally troubleshoot computers for a living

[mental oxide]

If people want 4k gaming they should buy QD-OLED and get GeForce Now their games will look way better and they won't have any envy or regret, but people who wanna make the unplayable playable should get PCs

[stray apex]

If you let Nvidia define what midrange is, then the 4070ti is a high midrange card

It's not

[fluid ridge]

you conflate value with the position of the card on the nvidia hierarchy

[sonic barn]

have you ever played games or used its software

[wraith sonnet]

I wouldn't encourage buying arc if you play CSGO but if you are only trying to play cyberpunk or halo infinite go with ARC

[full fossil]

Oled is a huge regret. Burn in 6 months later and no warranty

[fluid ridge]

they are different things

[full fossil]

I hate oled.

[wraith sonnet]

yes?

[fluid ridge]

i completely agree with you btw, value is the most important part of a GPU

[mental oxide]

My monitor is 3 years from Alienware bro

[full fossil]

Good for you. I hate oled

[fluid ridge]

but calling a 3070 high end is balls to the walls nuts

[stray apex]

I don't give half a shit about what Nvidia thinks is midrange
Nvidia thinks that $1k is a good price for a midrange card

[wraith sonnet]

3070 SHOULD BE HIGH END THOUGH

[fluid ridge]

its not what nvidia thinks is midrange, it's a comparison of the numbers on paper

[sonic barn]

https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-ARC-Graphics/bd-p/arc-graphics

[fluid ridge]

the 4090 is not faster than a 3070 because nvidia thinks it is, it's faster because it is fucking faster

and a lot faster

[sonic barn]

https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-ARC-Graphics/Halo-Infinite-low-FPS-Rendering-wrong/td-p/1437834
2 days ago

[fluid ridge]

maybe if we went back 6 years

[stray apex]

And yet, not significantly meaningfully faster
The 4090 can do 4k better, which is only a real concern for the highest end

[mental oxide]

Laptop gpus are faster than a 3070 or as fast, this is like saying a 1660 super is mid range

[fluid ridge]

again, i own a 3070, it's a great value card

[graceful burrow]

Value and 3070 shouldn't be in the same sentence lmao

Just as well get a 6700xt for less

[sonic barn]

used 3070 is cheap

[fluid ridge]

well for me it was, i got mine under msrp during the shortage new lol

[mental oxide]

Just like walmarts great value, 3060 Ti was the real value

[stray apex]

Wdym paying 6800xt prices for a 3070 is bad value

[wraith sonnet]

value is a 6600 you bought for under 200 and still have a warranty for

[sonic barn]

its like 450$ cad for a 3070 used

[fluid ridge]

i picked mine up for 590 CAD

brand new

[mental oxide]

Get GeForce now the subscription

[fluid ridge]

my point is range is relative, not absolute

if we compare the lamborghini huracan against the rest of lamborghini's lineup, it's a relatively docile car despite being 250k

[sonic barn]

also you only need to buy it once and its good for x years, my 2070super was bought back in 2019 and I still use it

[wraith sonnet]

I am by no means saying arc is perfect, hell I would encourage anyone that is a "gamer" to buy a second GPU if they want ARC in the first place

[sonic barn]

4 yrs for a gpu that was like 1k

[fluid ridge]

on it's own, it's a lot, but against the rest of the lamborghini stack, it's on the lower end of things

[graceful burrow]

I want an a380 bad

[sonic barn]

you know ryzen supports av1

[summer folio]

What do Intel call their CrossFire Tech btw?

[wraith sonnet]

low profile 1650+A770 is a good combo IMO

[stray apex]

Why tf did you pay $1k for a 2070

[sonic barn]

the arc cards aren't worth it

[wraith sonnet]

they don't

[sonic barn]

2070 super

[summer folio]

When you combine multiple Arc GPUs for higher FPS

[stray apex]

That card regularly sold for like $500 usd

[summer folio]

of course they do

[wraith sonnet]

they don't have that?

[graceful burrow]

I never said I wanted it for av1 don't assume

[summer folio]

everyone need CrossFire

[mental oxide]

Cards arent worth it, sub to GeForce Now

[sonic barn]

quebec tax is 15%

[stray apex]

So?

[sonic barn]

1k cad

[wraith sonnet]

crossfire and SLI are pointless and bad

[summer folio]

Stadia

[stray apex]

Canadian prices are higher
I don't think they're that much higher

[summer folio]

Playstation Now

[mental oxide]

Lmao, stadia is dead

[sonic barn]

it was like 875$ or something

basically 1k

[mental oxide]

Ps5 is only worth it for VR

[wraith sonnet]

if you're thinking about that thing where ARC will utilize the IGPU on a intel cpu for productivity that's different

[stray apex]

Ah
That sounds less unreasonable for an aib card

[sonic barn]

msi card with rgb

[pliant karma]

Does arc still have a problem using it purely as an encoder while you mainly use your main gpu?

[sonic barn]

afaik it doesn't support it

[pliant karma]

I can fit an a770 in my system just need a gen 3 riser cable and some way to jank side mount it

[full fossil]

1000$ for a 2070 S You realize there worth 250 tops

[mental oxide]

Double tape it

[sonic barn]

4years though

[pliant karma]

That’s what i did to my hdd when I lost the hdd cage for my case

I’m plouffe

[full fossil]

4 years what

[stray apex]

Just leave it on the bottom of the case

[sonic barn]

its like 350$ cad used

[full fossil]

There 250 all over ebay

[sonic barn]

show me

[full fossil]

Some are 200

[sonic barn]

you're 100% looking at auctions

5 day auctions

[full fossil]

Look it up yourself

[pliant karma]

Oh trust me I’ll make it fit with some carnage to my case in the way. I have some collateral damage to my h510 forcing something that didn’t fit in it

[summer folio]

There is PlayStation Now VR?

[sonic barn]

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=2070+super&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=3070&_osacat=0

[summer folio]

[wraith sonnet]

you understand that arc actually uses gen 4 right?

[sonic barn]

you're blind

[summer folio]

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/139/images/Image_03.jpg

[mental oxide]

I literally use a 2080 super as a paper weight

[stray apex]

Does that case even fit 2 gpus?
I don't remember it being that big

[pliant karma]

the bottom pcie a lot on my mobo is gen 3

[sonic barn]

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=2070+super&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

[mental oxide]

Bought it and never touched it really

[sonic barn]

avg is 350$

[pliant karma]

Oh my case can fit 2 but the second one has to be a single slot card

[wraith sonnet]

then put in a 710 for physX

kekw

[wise goblet]

buying even used cards in Canada is somewhat expensive

[full fossil]

I’m referring to USD

Not CAD

[wise goblet]

especially in Quebec people pay more because of tax and pass that onto the next person

[sonic barn]

still 200$ usd is 265$ cad

which is not true

[full fossil]

It is true i’m looking at it rn

[pliant karma]

@stray apex my board you see the problem already with that bottom pcie a lot

[sonic barn]

show me then

[summer folio]

Well of course? Taxx is included in total price

[wise goblet]

besides the original topic was Canadian prices you started talking about usd prices for whatever reason

[sonic barn]

if you're so keen on the idea

[full fossil]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=rtx+2070+super&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

[summer folio]

it's illegal to even show prices without taxx included in Sweden. Thats a scam.

[stray apex]

At least you have a lot of m.2 slots

[wise goblet]

I'm saying because taxes are higher in Quebec, the used market in Quebec is also slightly more expensive than in other provinces like Alberta

[full fossil]

In my local area there 250 as well

[sonic barn]

cheapest one there is 250$ usd

[full fossil]

Cheapest one is 216

[sonic barn]

parts only?

💀

[full fossil]

Idk lemme double check

[wise goblet]

$335 CAD plus shipping and likely to pay import fees because Canada is so awesome

😭

[summer folio]

[sonic barn]

you can dodge import fees and customs

I did it before when I sold and buy

[full fossil]

Nah it ain’t parts

[wise goblet]

I bought a new 6700XT last week and paid $655.50 CAD after taxes, free shipping

it's expensive out here man

[pliant karma]

At the cost of losing some pcie lanes. Using the bottom nvme I loose access to the bottom gen 3 slot. Using the middle 2 I will loose access to the x4 slot and or 6 sata ports

[full fossil]

How much is CAD to USD

[sonic barn]

you just need to send it as a parcel under canada post outside of ebay. Then when the package arrives you switch to domestic transit

[wise goblet]

1 to 1.34

well USD to CAD

[sonic barn]

domestic transit = no customs since its within the region

[full fossil]

That’s a pretty average price lmao

[stray apex]

I mean
Most people probably only use the top x16 anyways

[sonic barn]

you ship to one location then to another

[pliant karma]

Tru

[sonic barn]

0 customs

[full fossil]

480 for a brand new 6700xt ain’t the worst

[wise goblet]

if I lived in Alberta it would have been $598.50

[full fossil]

You fucked up buying a 3 year old card brand new

[wise goblet]

no I didn't when the alternative is a $1300 card

[full fossil]

What are you talking about

[wise goblet]

my friend said no used cards so the best choice for him was a 6700XT

[full fossil]

Oh no used cards

[wise goblet]

you're pointing out the card is previous gen, I'm saying a new Gen card is $1300 minimum

[sonic barn]

cards here in canada computers are super cheap

[full fossil]

Or just a better card in general

[sonic barn]

6700xt is 600$ cad

[wise goblet]

what card brand new would beat the price to performance ratio of a 6700XT? enlighten me

[full fossil]

I’m pointing out the fact that you bought an old model brand new, it’s msrp is from 3 years ago. U should have bought it used

[wise goblet]

the cheapest 6700XT is $529.99

[sonic barn]

usd or cad

[full fossil]

Used? Or brand new

[summer folio]

what about 6650XT for 400$?

[wise goblet]

and I'm telling you the person paying for it didn't want used parts so saying I should buy used is irrelevant

it's new and CAD

[full fossil]

Brand new

?

[summer folio]

Yeah, Sweden

[sonic barn]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=213453

[full fossil]

That’s petty high

But mfs in europe don’t got much of a selection so if it’s all u can find just buy it

[wise goblet]

the cheapest new gen card I can get in Canada right now is the 4070ti and that's $1229 CAD before tax

[summer folio]

proceeds to buy the whole stock

[full fossil]

Nah what

[sonic barn]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/search/results_details.php?language=en&keywords=4070ti

[wise goblet]

yeah on Newegg they have it for $529.99

[summer folio]

Anyone looking for a 6650XT?
Only 500$, just 4 u

[sonic barn]

1119

[full fossil]

Buy used

Buy my 3080 ti lmao

[summer folio]

[sonic barn]

yeah I see it

[wise goblet]

for myself I might buy used

[summer folio]

Just buy an old card & play on medium

[wise goblet]

but I'm not working with my own money so if he says no used then that means no used

[sonic barn]

2070 super for csgo at all low 1920x1080 144fps

[wise goblet]

I'd have bought a used 6800XT for the price of the 6700XT

[summer folio]

lol, cs 1.6 like super old,
should run on a potato.

ATI x1950pro maybe

[wise goblet]

csgo and cs1.6 are slightly different but yes

even an older card should run it no problem

[full fossil]

How much are 3070s

[summer folio]

What? They didn't make the games inter-operable? Lame.

[sonic barn]

cs1.6 wasn't even source

[full fossil]

I’m Canada

In

[summer folio]

Nobody played source

1.6 only

[sonic barn]

source engine

[fossil frost]

1.6 was a half life mod originally

[wise goblet]

there's one for $685

[sonic barn]

800$ cad

[wise goblet]

but it's chinese

[full fossil]

Yeesh

[wise goblet]

the others are upwards of 800-1000

[full fossil]

I feel bad for you bro seriously

[summer folio]

It was when I played too
You clicked on "Switch Game" in half-life menu to start CS.

Never played half-life tho

[full fossil]

I would lose my mind fighting prices like that

[wise goblet]

is the US that much better

the killer really is that wages aren't going up fast enough to make up for the insane inflation

[sonic barn]

https://ccimg.canadacomputers.com/Products/105x105/230/522/198875/71162.jpg cheapest one I found

[fossil frost]

i hated half life, and half life 2 too.. it was a terrible game, with a terrible story, and terrible mechanics, and looked like turd too, even for the time... i never got why it had so much hype

[wise goblet]

shit doubled in price in the last 3 years but salaries have gone up by at most 10-12%

[full fossil]

Msrp not that much better, but local used prices are crazy

[wise goblet]

ah I see

[sonic barn]

just short stonks

not financial advice

[full fossil]

And just the fact that u don’t have to worry about absurd shipping

[summer folio]

Battlefield 1942 didnt release untill 4 years later/after Half-Life 1.

Even Quake III Arena didnt launch until 1 year post half-life.

Gamers had not much choice ig

[fossil frost]

thats why star wars was originally popular... it wasnt popular because it was good... it got popular because it was the only thing of its type at the time... same for the Beatles... their music sucks nuts... but its lauded because they were the first

star wars and the beatles are popular now, because they are popular... self fulfilling cycle now

same with half life

and thats why valve will never do HL3, its never gonna happen, because they make too much money from steam, and HL3 released now would have to compete with everything else that exists today, and unless valve come up with something extra special that nobody else is doing, and making it a game changer... HL3 will get both lauded for being HL3, and slammed for not being as good as anything else at the time

[sonic barn]

no its because of source 2

its been delayed for a long long time for csgo

rn valve is working with kde on a linux distro though

[dusty rune]

i mean isnt hl3 practically alyx?

[sonic barn]

hdr is coming soon

[sonic barn]

it was more of a tech demo of source 2 imo

I played it and its good

[dusty rune]

still a half life game

[sonic barn]

yeah

[dusty rune]

and its suposedly good, so we know theyre capable of making a good game

[sonic barn]

I'm pretty sure csgo will have to be rewritten to fit source 2

so no more csgo, then you got the problem with skins

[dusty rune]

theres no point to remake csgo imo

[sonic barn]

1 mill people

[dusty rune]

its a competitive game that already has decent graphics

[sonic barn]

and 64 tick servers 🤢

[dusty rune]

thats off the point

[sonic barn]

csgo should go for dx12 support with source 2

support newer hardware

it'll help with easing driver support for things like arc and integrated gpus

[dusty rune]

and then fuck over everyone who uses low end hardware?

[sonic barn]

if you're not using a dx11 card or supported apu then you're in 2012s

[dusty rune]

like how fortnite is doing?

[wise goblet]

skill issue clearly

[sonic barn]

even 2012 I think there's dx11 cards

[fossil frost]

dx12 was supported on the hd7800 series....

[sonic barn]

dx9 is very old

[wise goblet]

Rocket League is being ported to UE5 as well

[dusty rune]

woulnt a lower dx be faster than newer ones

[fossil frost]

dx12 is too now...

[sonic barn]

epic games ruined rocket league for me

I had like 1k crates worth 500$ cad and they turned them all into blueprints

[wise goblet]

it's mostly on Psyonix for not giving the game enough love, Epic if anything gave them the funding to improve the game they just fumbled it

[sonic barn]

I had an octane worth 350$ too

[wise goblet]

ah I see that actually sucks

I never traded but I have a TW octane too and it dipped in value

[sonic barn]

I was grand champ during my last season

[wise goblet]

it doesn't bother me to be honest

[sonic barn]

still have the og grand champ skin

[wise goblet]

but the bp prices are crazy

oh that's epic

[sonic barn]

sucks

[wise goblet]

I only got GC the first time hmm Season 5 after F2P?

[sonic barn]

before decrypters were the norm and you got them from events

[wise goblet]

when the game went f2p I was plat I think

[sonic barn]

I was gc back in 2018 or something

[wise goblet]

nah that's madness I didn't even play back then

[sonic barn]

gc in 2s 3s and champ in 1s

I was a god at aerials

[wise goblet]

nowadays plats regularly air dribble it's insane

[sonic barn]

I knew how to air dribble and all that

and do the musky flick

[wise goblet]

I'm not even GC2 and I can consistently reset breezi double, and like I'm not even a freestyle focused player I just have "basic" mechs and can triple stall reset

[sonic barn]

Believe it or not I was in a match with keemstar once when I was gold 3

[wise goblet]

oh the keemstomp! lmao that clip is too good

[fossil frost]

so... DX API 11_0 and 11_1 (Officially named DirectX 12) have nee around since the GForce 400 series and the AMD HD7000 series, and 12_0 has been around since the RX200 and Gforce 900 series... so... yeah DX12 is 10-12 years old right now...

[sonic barn]

I don't think he was streaming, he was vc in game chat and playing with a random while cursing at his teammate

I checked his steam profile afterwards and it was him

[wise goblet]

sounds like him

[sonic barn]

That was long ago though

[wise goblet]

I run into some CRL and RLCS players every now and then

not in ranked of course, I'm too low for that

but I 1v1d Th0 in casual twice he annihilated me

[sonic barn]

I used to play with this fur e player that was a coach for some rocket league team

he was very good

I might actually play it again but I don't really enjoy it now since all my progress is basically null

used to be very good for trading before f2p

now everyone can get x item

[summer folio]

They should just drop 1 new DirectX every Windows version instead

[sonic barn]

no rng for titanium white octane

[summer folio]

Windows 13, DirektX 13

[fossil frost]

that was originally the plan when DX was tightly coupled into windows... now... you can technically run windows without it, and technically run DX outside of windows (not that anyone has done it beyond wine making their own implementation of it)

[wise goblet]

nah like

if you were GC in 2018 your gamesense is likely still very good

you'd just have to adapt to speed of play and mechanics

[summer folio]

Ikr? That was why you 'had to" leave Windows XP

[full fossil]

What are nas's used for? Movies and stuff?

[summer folio]

"Impossible" to get DirectX 10 on WinXP

[manic torrent]

storage.

[fossil frost]

it was impossible, until some nice internet people pulled it out of vista and modded it so it ran fine on XP 🙂

[manic torrent]

impossible == too expensive and/or not what they want to do

[fossil frost]

should have a /cba on the end of that too

[summer folio]

[fossil frost]

just like it was impossible to run win11 on anything older than 10th gen, and was impossible to run without a tpm, then ms pulled it back to 8th gen and some 7th gen and tpm became sortof-maybe-probably a requirement but not actually optional or required

[sonic barn]

uhh

[sonic spruce]

What’s better i5-7500 or i7 3700?

[fossil frost]

7500

[sonic barn]

you could've loaded a custom iso where it was disabled for the check

[summer folio]

Wasnt it also the reverse?
Like Skylake didnt support Windows 7

[sonic barn]

you didn't need tpm to install windows 11

[fossil frost]

yep, well aware of it... read the whole conversation

[full fossil]

What do you use for movies

[fossil frost]

MS said it was impossible.. but what they meant by impossible was that they didnt want you to do that, rather than it actually being impossible

[manic torrent]

netflix, D+

[sonic spruce]

I5-7500 or i7-4770?

[manic torrent]

almost nothing in computing is impossible, but it might be really expensive or stupid

[full fossil]

No like to copy from your bluray to be able to watch without streaming or disk swapping

[fossil frost]

a lot of stuff is stupid 😄

[manic torrent]

I don't use physical media anymore

[full fossil]

Ok but i do

[fossil frost]

google is a thing... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2910vs1907/Intel-i5-7500-vs-Intel-i7-4770

[fossil frost]

what you do is... download it from a pirate site... and if you want to feel good about yourself, buy the bluray too and just put the bluray on a shelf somewhere never to be touched again

[sonic spruce]

According to this the 4770 is better?

[full fossil]

Lmao

[fossil frost]

i gave you a spoon... feel free to feed yourself with it

[sonic spruce]

I want to make sure I understand it is the thing

[fossil frost]

i want to make sure you understand that im not spoon feeding you the info that you can read for yourself 🙂

[sonic spruce]

Ok

[slate tulip]

Man, I’m just waiting for the i9-13900k to get in stock in the employee store - desperately need to rebuild my PC

[sonic barn]

If you're in system engineering for intel can't you just take it out for testing purposes?

[cerulean canopy]

engineering sample

[sonic barn]

exactly

[slate tulip]

Nah. I manage datacenters and infrastructure - my team doesn’t have access to anything like that

[cerulean canopy]

he prolly cant take it out from intel labs

its intel property

[sonic barn]

just be best friends with whoever is the project leader

[cerulean canopy]

smh no staff discount

[slate tulip]

There is - in the employee store, which i stated I’m waiting for it to get in stock in 😛

It’s almost 50% off

[cerulean canopy]

ah

nice then

[slate tulip]

If it ever becomes available before we release the next gen, yes, lol

[keen hazel]

does anyone know why I'm not getting spotify ads despite listening for hours?
It lets me choose any song I want and also I haven't gotten a single ad in the past few days

[slate tulip]

The 13th gen i5 and i7 are in stock now - not the i9 :(

[sonic barn]

just use spotx

[keen hazel]

nah I'm perfectly happy with spotify it's just really weird why I'm not getting ads

[sonic barn]

https://github.com/SpotX-CLI/SpotX-Win

it basically modifies 1 file

[keen hazel]

I'm good thanks

[cerulean canopy]

does staff store also have motherboards and server stuff

?

[sonic barn]

engineering sample pc

[slate tulip]

Nah. Outside consumer CPUs, it doesn’t have a lot

[sonic barn]

imagine

[slate tulip]

Nope. Only retail hardware at discount.

[cerulean canopy]

ye i am not talking about es, but i know intel makes some mobos

[sonic barn]

do you have access to the big intel 660p ssd stuff

like the 2tb drives

[slate tulip]

It’s almost all desktop hardware, and except for CPUs, not really worth it. Like, i was looking at some DDR5 in the employee store - it was like, $2 cheaper than the same RAM on Amazon

For a while SSDs were slightly cheaper but we gout out of the SSD business

[sonic barn]

https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/products/details/memory-storage/consumer-ssds/optane-ssd-9-series.html
these stuff

[stable reef]

When you spend thousands on a computer store and only earn $10 in points lol

[sonic barn]

optane ssd

[slate tulip]

Optane? Yes, but not nearly enough discount that I can justify them

[sonic barn]

Endurance Rating (Lifetime Writes)
27.37 PB Written

they are insane

[slate tulip]

Just not running anything on my desktop that optane is going to perform noticeably better than the latest NVMe

[slate tulip]

Yes, but on a single-user desktop, i haven’t worn out my normal nvme

[sonic barn]

I've seen them on ebay for cheap but its hard to find them now

regular nvme are like 150tbw

the optane stuff is 5000tbw

at least the big modules

[full fossil]

How much storage is needed to store your feet pic collection

[sonic barn]

0 because I sadly don't have one

[manic torrent]

Pb

[cerulean canopy]

1.21 petabytes

[full fossil]

Whats a petabyte

[sonic barn]

1000tb

[unreal thorn]

Does anyone know of a braided usb-c cable that won't get fuzzy?

They always get fuzzy and it pisses me off

[long briar]

why would you want braided though

[unreal thorn]

They are stronger

[kindred coral]

Find different job, you destroy everything you own 💀

[unreal thorn]

What no

I just use one that's not very good

[quiet jackal]

do anyone know when the nzxt h9 elite case comes in stores?

[unreal thorn]

I use a DeWalt cable. Its longevity is unmatched but it always gets fuzzy

[spark rampart]

yo can anyone tell me if ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 has bluetooth built in? (literally joined just to ask this)

[full fossil]

DeWalt now just rebrands OEM stuff

[sterile haven]

my samsung cable has held on for more than 6 months so im happy lmao

[unreal thorn]

That makes sense. They're a power tool company not an electronics company

[sterile haven]

all my cables i usually use just die

[full fossil]

My tech tip is that everyone needs a 10 foot long USB c cable

[unreal thorn]

How about one that won't get fuzzy??

[full fossil]

Wdym fuzzy

[unreal thorn]

Like

The braid gets fuzzy

[full fossil]

Never happened to me lol

[unreal thorn]

What brand do you use

[full fossil]

That only on SUPER CHEAP cables

[unreal thorn]

Yeah so

What brand

[full fossil]

Any one really

[unreal thorn]

Name one

[full fossil]

I buy what fits the specs I need

[sage canyon]

any good 4070 with 13700H laptop suggestions?

[unreal thorn]

Ah

[fossil frost]

i have some ultra cheap chinese XGMATT braided cables from amazon... best cables i have ever bought 😄

[full fossil]

uni USB C to USB C Cable 100W 10ft Long USB Type C 5A Fast Charging Nylon Braided Cord Compatible with MacBook Pro 2021/2020/2019, iPad Pro 2021, Dell XPS 15/13 and More https://a.co/d/ep8pTCC

[pale grove]

Hi

[fossil frost]

only ones that actually lock into any device i have

[full fossil]

I have the 15 ft version and it's held up admirably

[ruby venture]

Wait can someone help

[unreal thorn]

Ty

[full fossil]

Hope they might serve you well

Having a 10 or 15 ft cable is legitimately useful especially if you're traveling cuz Lord knows hotels have chargers in the stupidest spots

[full fossil]

Not only does the lord know but I know 💀

Lol

[ruby venture]

Does pcbuilder take measurements into consideration?

[unreal thorn]

10 feet seems way too long so I'll just buy one and then buy a shorter one

From uni

[ruby venture]

I think I bought a gpu 7mm to big to fit my aio

[full fossil]

Get a 15 then a shorter one

[unreal thorn]

Hell no

My chair will roll all over it

[full fossil]

15ft ftw

Anyway yea get a long cable

It really has made life easier

[unreal thorn]

Do you know of one that has an LED on the end

I've never owned one but it seems nice to not have to look for it in the dark

[full fossil]

10ft probably not

Oh

Not the wattage display just an led

[unreal thorn]

Yes just an LED

[fossil frost]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-bender-bend-doblador-gif-20053760

bend it

[unreal thorn]

The aio submits to the gpu, not the other way around

[fossil frost]

gpus bend quite a bit anyway.... 7mm more isnt gonna hurt it

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn USB C to USB C Cable 3m/10ft, Syntech USB C Fast Charging Cable with LED Indicator, Compatible with iPad Mini 2021, MacBook Pro 2020/2019, iPad Pro 2020, iPad Air 4, Samsung Galaxy S20/S10, Switch https://a.co/d/6VC8mQD

I use this as my bedside cable rn

[fossil frost]

unless it does hurt it, then it will hurt it

[full fossil]

It has a led

It does not help but if you want it there you go

[ruby venture]

So do I have to change case?

[manic torrent]

This is why you go custom loop. No more super-long-coolers problem

[unreal thorn]

If the gpus doesn't fit the case, you should change the case and not the GPU

[unreal thorn]

It says currently unavailable. Should I just find one and then tag you so you can tell me if it's good

[ruby venture]

On pcpart picker it says no issue but when I add them up it’s over

[full fossil]

Sure, most should be fine but ping me

[ruby venture]

Why are 40 series gpus so big

I have to spend extra 🥲🥲🥲

[ripe patrol]

they decided to switch to lb/$ rationale 🤣

[scarlet needle]

cpu temp too high, why?

5950X with the Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix

already checked paste

[unreal thorn]

why are you buying a 40 series gpu

[vapid smelt]

people still buy corsair aios?

[scarlet needle]

this was 2 years ago

[pliant karma]

Fortunately yes

While I’m trying to kill mines

[molten drift]

Just cleared the snow off my and my mom's car. And my nose is now running like an avalanche coming down the mountain how are the rest of you?

[vapid smelt]

global warming hates Utah so we have no snow right now

[molten drift]

Well it's been snowing for 12 hours here

[manic torrent]

It doens't snow ever here

[pliant karma]

It snowed the day before I got to Toronto.

I slipped on ice 3 times today already

[ruby venture]

Why wouldn’t I

[ripe patrol]

And I went for a rip on the motorcycle... in canada lol

[pliant karma]

Lol

[polar fern]

My face is like 👀

[unreal thorn]

extremely expensive

are you a 3d modeler?

[polar fern]

Need to find a good price on bulk silver solder

No, it’s for like repairing stuff

[ruby venture]

1200 for the 4080

[vapid smelt]

the msrp of the 3080 was 699

[simple turtle]

dose some one have a isa 16 bit gpu that they can donate? my 486 is missing one

[fossil frost]

ebay

[simple turtle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155349904473?hash=item242b936c59:g:YqcAAOSwx1NjvCJg found this but sweden is aperntly worng conetry for this it cost more then 5000 sek

[fossil frost]

they are about £30 on uk ebay

[polar fern]

@simple turtle maybe reach out to LGR or ADB or 8 bit guy?

[fossil frost]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324713279888?hash=item4b9a6b7190:g:fBcAAOSws0Ng7cWm

[simple turtle]

hmm

my 486 is green have the numbers 586

[naive valve]

Seeing thorum.com being promoted as a sponsor on the DIY Xbox video immediately set off my spidey senses. Having looked into the claims of meteorite and dinosaur bone for these sorts commodity jewelry merchants in the past has revealed a lot of false claims with the materials involved. I wouldn't have an issue with it if the makers used wording that indicated that these materials are an imitation of the look of meteorite etc... but they're intentionally misleading. Might be worth looking into.

[fossil frost]

would be better posting this on the forum, or emailing LMG directly with your concerns

[naive valve]

Okay noted, thanks for the breadcrumbs!

[polar fern]

Yeah I was like “um there are no dinosaur bones, just fossils & who’s gonna destroy fossils en masse?!”

And meteorites can contain radium & other spices

[fossil frost]

places in moroco and mongolia sell them en masse, wouldnt put it past the same places to grind them down and sell them

[polar fern]

Yikes

Real dino bone fossil & real meteorite would also be $$$$$

[fossil frost]

no not really... i bought a Spinosaurus tooth "fragment" (about the end 2 inches of the tooth) for about £70. had it checked by the natural history museum in manchester to, and its legit

[unreal thorn]

exactly

[polar fern]

Right but this has to fit a ring

[fossil frost]

or... it can be ground down, and embedded in resin which is used to fill a groove in a ring, which is what the dino bone ones are

that way, you can get 10s or 100s of rings from 1 specimen

[naive valve]

That would still be pretty misleading though, especially when being represented as being a display piece for the material in question

[fossil frost]

depends on the wording.. "made with" and "made from" are subtly different... made with.. means it has some of that material in it, made from, suggests the bulk of the item is that material

[naive valve]

Yes absolutely, agreed

[fossil frost]

tbh, im getting married in november... and that site being advertised lead me to know that tungsten carbide rings are a thing... and ive been researching those for most of today and where i can buy them in the uk... and it turns out that you can only really get them from independent places that specialise in that.. and my fiance thinks that us both getting an "unbreakable" ring as our wedding ring, would be a great symbolic choice for us

[polar fern]

I should warn you about those types of rings

If it ever gets caught in something, it will pull your finger apart

[fossil frost]

my previous wedding ring was hardened and oxidised titanium

would also rip my finger off

[polar fern]

Titanium is far more flexible than tungsten carbide

[fossil frost]

when its a loop wrapped around your finger.. its still harder than the skin and muscle and tendon that holds your finger on

[polar fern]

There is a reason why people who work with their hands buy those $9 rubber wedding bands & it’s not to protect the ring

[fossil frost]

there is little chance of me getting my hands caught in a machine while sat at my desk, writing software 😄

and tbh, whenever i went out on the bike when i was previously married, i left the ring at home, 1. because it irritated me when riding the bike, 2. didnt wanna lose it. 3. i catch my hands on parts of the bike anyway, dont want anything catching onto the ring

[polar fern]

For example, if you have titanium or gold or sterling silver or even steel, it could catch on something and then you pull it and it might gouge it but with tungsten carbide it won’t gouge it’ll just stay stuck fast.

it really isn’t a good material to be worn as a ring

[fossil frost]

i gouged my titanium ring on my ex-wifes diamond ring once

[polar fern]

Yep

Tungsten carbide would do the same thing

[fossil frost]

yeah, diamond will gouge anything if it has a point on it

[sonic barn]

help my cat is sleeping on my laptops exhaust

[polar fern]

Hotcat

[sonic barn]

cat heat transfer

[fossil frost]

i would say to run a benchmark to make it too warm for the cat.. but my cat has literally fallen asleep on the radiator, while it was on, and stayed there

[sonic barn]

I just lowered power settings however I cant hit backspace

[polar fern]

Depending on the location of the radiator & if it was steam or hot water, definitely not a great idea 🤣

[sonic barn]

cpu at 47c

[fossil frost]

hot water, by the window, window was covered with thermal blinds... so the heat was well and truely contained within the room... cat was an idiot

[polar fern]

Eek

[fossil frost]

no, he was called oscar, not eek... eek was a cartoon 😄

[polar fern]

I would be more concerned with steam radiators, especially if they were closer to the boiler with a short pipe.

[fossil frost]

my boiler temp for the heating is 80c

[polar fern]

Water radiators are usually way lower temp.

[fossil frost]

my boiler has a dial that lets me run it anywhere from 35c all the way to 85c

for the radiator output that is... not the boiler internal

[polar fern]

Mhm

Just install a tiny little pressurised water reactor and never have to worry about your heating bill ever again

[fossil frost]

im building an extension on the house next year, and with that project, im switching the heating to a heat pump

[polar fern]

Ooo

[fossil frost]

because... fuck paying for gas... its fucking expensive in the uk

[polar fern]

Also, it’s bad for multiple things

[unreal thorn]

@full fossil https://a.co/d/eg172ls

How's that one

[fossil frost]

boiler is the only thing in my house that runs on gas, and my gas bill is STILL higher than my electricity bill

[full fossil]

Might cause a fire no

[unreal thorn]

There aren't many options. Where should I look other than Amazon?

[unreal thorn]

Okay. Deleted

[polar fern]

Some smarty pants off grid cabin guy has his tankless hot water heater vented to the inside of the cabin, and he claims that it’s no big deal because people run their gas ranges all the time indoors

[unreal thorn]

I just want like an oval led on either side, this shouldn't be so hard

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn you want a c to c probably and those types of led rainbow cables completely break the USB c specifications

[polar fern]

What he may not even realise, is that, even if the exhaust was completely safe, you are using up oxygen in the room

[fossil frost]

which consume fucking LOADS less gas, burn the gas FAAAR more effectively, and run at a very low pressure to reduce the likelyhood of unburned gas

[polar fern]

Mhm

[unreal thorn]

Ah, thanks for telling me

[polar fern]

Still, though you are reducing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide in an enclosed living space

[unreal thorn]

Do you know of one like I described? 6 feet is fine if 10 feet doesn't exist

[full fossil]

You also want at least 100w and USB 3, don't cheap out on cables

[fossil frost]

mostly monoxide that comes from the natural gas burning process, still not great, but its not dioxide 😄

[polar fern]

Yes it’s carbon dioxide & water

[unreal thorn]

Is this the kind of idea I just need to discard?

[full fossil]

No, a little LED dot is perfectly fine

Just get a good nice USB c cable

[unreal thorn]

Yes but I feel like I'm not going to find anything

[polar fern]

Purely efficient combustion of most hydrocarbons results in carbon dioxide and water vapour.

[fossil frost]

sorry, yes, its dioxide, its one of the others that produce monoxide... also, it produces methine and nitrus oxide too

[polar fern]

that is why you can sometimes see water dripping from an exhaust system, and it is also why you san see vehicle exhaust when it is cold out - it puts out a huge amount of water vapour along with the carbon dioxide

Yeah, so the Offgrid cabin guy is basically filling his cutsie little cabin with carbon dioxide

[fossil frost]

so.. hes built himself a gas chamber

[polar fern]

Pretty much

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn the USB people are called the USB IF and you can search a brand or cable on it, don't worry bout that tho just send me anything

[polar fern]

Now that I am talking about this or typing about it, I think I may leave a comment so he can go and fix that so he doesn’t off himself accidentally

Bbl

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn https://a.co/d/emiaqK3
Slow data but if it's a charging cable it's pretty good 😊👍

[unreal thorn]

How much slower?

[full fossil]

If you want the biggest dick cable
Wiredge 10FT USB C to USB C Cable 5A PD 100W LED Display Cable QC5.0 PPS Super Fast Charging Type-C Phone Nylon Braided Charger Cord 480Mbps Data Compatible with iPad MacBook Samsung Galaxy Pixel PS5 https://a.co/d/4matGwG

[full fossil]

It's USB 2

480 mbps

[unreal thorn]

But this one is fast?

[full fossil]

Nope

[vapid smelt]

blue> purple

[unreal thorn]

Flip

What's the difference between the two

[full fossil]

Most charging cables have USB 2 data because they are just charging cables

[full fossil]

10ft vs 2 6.6ft

[unreal thorn]

I'd love to find one that's both fast and powerful even if it means have to pay double the price

I mean, One charging cable lasts at least 6 months so

But you know, with LED

It's not so much that I need it so badly, more like logically I feel like they should have an LED

It just feels stupid to not have one at the end of a charging cable

[full fossil]

https://a.co/d/iZOCYGu
This is the sexiest cable imo

So clean

[abstract sluice]

Opinions on eBay value build?
CPU: i5 13600K $320
GPU: XFX Speedster 6800 XT $450
Cooler: Peerless Assassin 120 SE $36
Mobo: Unknown
RAM: 32GB Trident Z5 $165
Storage: T-Force Cardea 2TB $87
Case: Montech X3 Mesh $72
PSU: Enermax Revolution DF 850W $90
Monitor: Acer Predator XB3 27” 1440p $250
Keyboard: Razer Huntsman Mini $35
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder V2 $17
Headphones: HyperX Cloud II $53 AND Razer BlackShark V2
Total: $1628
Budget: $1900
I have $272 to spend on a mobo, which should I do

[unreal thorn]

It's too clean. I like the uni cable

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn the issue is that past about 8 feet you are only getting USB 2 unless you are getting an active cable

Cuz of data loss

[unreal thorn]

Okay what about a fast cable with an LED at 6 ft

Do you think I should just not worry about it

I don't even use it to transfer data, I just want to get something that logically makes sense

It's about logic for me

[full fossil]

If it's a charging cable you don't really need stupid fast data but I would also dedicate some money to shorter but fully featured cables

[unreal thorn]

I agree. Do you know of one that has an LED and is fast? Doesn't have to transfer a lot of power. It will be focused on data

I love USB-C so much

[full fossil]

Cable Matters [USB-IF Certified] USB4 Cable/USB 4 Cable 3.3 ft with 40Gbps Data, 8K Video & 240W Charging, Compatible with Thunderbolt 4 Thunderbolt 3, USB C for MacBook, XPS, Surface Pro and More https://a.co/d/bpx26mY

These are full featured cables

Pd 240w and 40gbps

[unreal thorn]

Thanks. I'll get both

[full fossil]

Sure, I haven't used either personally but they all seem FINE@unreal thorn

[unreal thorn]

It's a beautiful table, I really hope it doesn't get fuzzy

[full fossil]

That black one is actually like an art piece

It looks so sleek

[unreal thorn]

It's too sleek for me, the uni cable looks better because it looks like a tank

[full fossil]

Lol

[unreal thorn]

different philosophies

I appreciate strength more than elegance

not that the sleek one is weak.

[full fossil]

This one is also good because it's 6.6 feet
https://a.co/d/89AbRWA

[unreal thorn]

It's not braided, dealbreaker

[full fossil]

Lol

[unreal thorn]

I only like to buy things that can be abused

[full fossil]

I'd actually object and say that braided doesn't mean more durable

[unreal thorn]

you're right

but the shell is

[full fossil]

Many braided c cables are on braids on top of plastics BTW

[unreal thorn]

it's less likely to stretch/get cut open

[full fossil]

I guess

[unreal thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561291724165611535/1064342366162534410/image.png

[full fossil]

Btw USB c 240w is SO new no charger can do over 140w over a single cable

[unreal thorn]

I don't even use more than 25 watts

[full fossil]

Lol but yea

[unreal thorn]

I hate laptops. I'm only going to buy one begrudgingly

[full fossil]

I can't WAIT till gaming laptops get rid of special chargers

That's going to be absolutely incredible

[unreal thorn]

Special chargers are still necessary if you want more than a couple hundred watts

It annoys me that Apple still uses lightning instead of USB-C. I don't use anything apple, but it's illogical and knowing that these dumbass illogical phones are out there is irritating

[full fossil]

Yea but imagine, you could power most GPUs with literally 2 type c 240w cables and since they can each do pcie 8 Lane you can do video as well

[unreal thorn]

It also annoys me because sometimes people need power but then I don't have the Apple charger so then they can't have power

I like to help people and that's why it pisses me off

But I'm not just going to carry in an adapter around for once in a blue moon

[full fossil]

SlimQ 240W Charging USB C to USB C Cable, for Type C Laptop, Hub, Docking, USB 4 Cable 5.9 ft, Supports 8K HD Display, 40 Gbps Data Transfer, and More https://a.co/d/eZLEfRz

I can also send some of the best chargers

[unreal thorn]

I have a Samsung 25 watt

[full fossil]

Ew

Something like this is quite excellent https://a.co/d/6B6jqX3

[unreal thorn]

What ew, heck you lol

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Cyg2MobUcZ7XK5uN7

Utterly useless for me, but beautiful

The thing you sent*

[full fossil]

I have Samsung chargers but people really shouldn't be stuck with 25w chargers

[unreal thorn]

25 watts is the max for my phone

[full fossil]

For me since I do all the technology for everyone in my life they will end up with at least 45w and 2 ports

And many are cheaper than oems

[unreal thorn]

Yeah well sure but that's bigger than it needs to be for my use case which is to charge one phone at 25 watts

[full fossil]

I guess but I buy 1 charger for multiple uses, USB a would probably be for watch while on the go etc

Personal choice

[unreal thorn]

My phone is my most powerful usb-c device

[full fossil]

Also just like power supplies I like to overspec

[hollow pulsar]

Pretty sure Apple doesn’t tow the USB-C line because it’s probably harder or impossible to charge licensing.

[unreal thorn]

I like to overspec cables

[unreal thorn]

I doubt it's for a reason other than to fuck you

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MFRxv3

[spark nimbus]

Is Logitech LIGHTSPEED known for causing massive amounts of interference for bluetooth connections? Trying to have my LIGHTSPEED mouse + keyboard while also having headphones over bluetooth but I'm hearing .5 seconds of audio through my headphones. Does not happen with non LIGHTSPEED mouse + keyboard connected (wired mouse + keyboard)

[hollow pulsar]

… that’s probably not how Apple became a trillion dollar company.

[unreal thorn]

No, it's not, but it's how they stay that way, apparently

Have you not heard of the right to repair lawsuits or how overpriced their devices are

[hollow pulsar]

What does that have to do with anything?

[unreal thorn]

People buy Apple because they want to be special or because they have to in work scenarios

They don't care that Apple rips them off intentionally, they just want Apple

It's the same reason people buy stupid brands like Gucci

[hollow pulsar]

You can stop right there. You are making way too many assumptions and I can’t keep up.

[unreal thorn]

Lol

Maybe, but it's how I view that company

[hollow pulsar]

That’s fine. It’s when you started speaking for others that I couldn’t keep up.

[manic torrent]

I see you don't understand psychology

[unreal thorn]

Why would I understand psychology

[manic torrent]

bluetooth is a poop.

[unreal thorn]

Yes, that's how I see them

[manic torrent]

I mean, I have forgotten more about computers than you know, but I've owned a mac laptop, and I bought an M1 for my wife.

[full fossil]

Ive shockingly had pretty good luck with Bluetooth!
When I worked in a busy Costco I could go 60+ feet and still get music

[manic torrent]

oh, it's fine, until it isn't 🙂

[hollow pulsar]

That is surprisingly good.

[full fossil]

No I mean ive never really had issues

[spark nimbus]

ok so here's my problem with going wired headphones: mic doesn't pic up voice (when LIGHTSPEED is on and working) and audio has the same issue. My NC700s work perfectly fine when PC is turned off and connected to my Macbook and iPhones

[manic torrent]

yes, that is typical

[unreal thorn]

Do you use a DAC and amp or what

[manic torrent]

a dac and amp for bluetooth....

[unreal thorn]

No lol

I mean did he try when he was using wired

[spark nimbus]

I simply plug in the headphone cable to the headphone jack on my case

[unreal thorn]

Idk. Dumb question

Yeah that should have been my first guess

[spark nimbus]

not sure on how to fix/work around this issue

[manic torrent]

a) get a non bluetooth wireless headset

[tawdry fable]

Is your 'headphone jack' a 3-pole one?

meaning: does it support a microphone?

[unreal thorn]

That

[manic torrent]

b) use it wired (maybe get an extension)

c) plug in your mouse

[unreal thorn]

That or just use a desk mic

[spark nimbus]

@manic torrent

[tawdry fable]

there's a high chance that your headphone jack is 2-pole and that means it won't support a microphone

[spark nimbus]

This issue happens when wired as well

[manic torrent]

hangon, when wired?

oh your shit is all weird.

[spark nimbus]

and bluetooth yes

[manic torrent]

replace everything, burn it down

also, are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that a) your'e using wired, and b) that the mic works at all when wired

[pliant karma]

Windows Bluetooth 🙂 I hate it to an extent unless it’s a Microsoft product then well it’s not a problem

[spark nimbus]

yes i have the wire in my headphone and in the jack. PC is recognizing the headphones when connected

[unreal thorn]

What do you mean lightspeed

What is lightspeed

[spark nimbus]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/innovation/lightspeed.html

[unreal thorn]

I've had a lot of audio issues in the past and I fixed them, so I'm hoping maybe I can help but I don't understand the issue

[spark nimbus]

Its Logitech's wireless connection system

[pliant karma]

Using their lightspeed on my g305. Been awesome

[unreal thorn]

Wait why would you be using a wireless connection system when you're trying to use the headphones wired

Do you have a different device that uses lightspeed and not just the headphones

[manic torrent]

lightspeed is for the mouse

[full fossil]

Windows Bluetooth fucking sucks

[spark nimbus]

Read what i said. Trying to have:
LIGHTSPEED keyboard
LIGHTSPEED mouse
bluetooth connected headphones

all at the same time. Lightspeed works great, but audio and vocals not being picked up by headphones connected to bluetooth. So i tried using the headphones wired. Bluetooth headphones work properly when PC and LIGHTSPEED is turned off on my Macbook and iPhones

[unreal thorn]

My windows Bluetooth has been fine

[manic torrent]

the only bluetooth controllers I've had which didn't suck in windows were in microsoft surface, or intel bt.

[unreal thorn]

But I also have a big antenna hanging near my ceiling

[spark nimbus]

and keyboard

[vapid smelt]

you and windows Bluetooth have allot in common then 😛

[manic torrent]

yeah but not audio

[spark nimbus]

Correct. audio does not come to/from a keyboard

[manic torrent]

It could though.

[full fossil]

Fuck off coop

[spark nimbus]

My Logitech keyboard is LIGHTSPEED as well as my mouse

[unreal thorn]

Does anyone know the real reason apple still uses lightning on their phones? Is it really licensing?

A big company like apple struggling with licensing? Really?

[vapid smelt]

$$$$

[manic torrent]

Because they want to.

[vapid smelt]

every time a third party makes a lighting connector for a charger or cable they have to give apple monies

[manic torrent]

lightning is a better connector for the purpose of PHONE CHARGING. And a worse connector in basically every other way

[manic torrent]

and it makes apple feel special and different

[unreal thorn]

So to fuck you

Ffs

I'm sorry for going so hard on apple users earlier. I just get super irritated at this bs

[manic torrent]

basically all companies do this, to more or less of an extent

[vapid smelt]

all adult toy manufacturers do it

[manic torrent]

and for various reasons - there's rarely one reason.

[spark nimbus]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[vapid smelt]

you have super dark mode for ios?

[manic torrent]

and I can sleep soundly knowning that I use a computer.

[unreal thorn]

It's ironic because it drives people away. But they probably make more money off of licensing than they lose on people who hate proprietary bullshit

[vapid smelt]

https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/02/07/apple-lowers-mfi-lightening-licensing-fees-paving-way-for-more-affordable-ios-accessories-

[spark nimbus]

does this help in explaining what issue I'm experiencing? @unreal thorn

[vapid smelt]

Over time, Apple reportedly reduced the cost to between 1.5% and 8% of the total retail price of an item before ultimately settling on a flat $4 per connector fee, with a "Pass-through" connector commanding two of those $4 licensing fees.

[unreal thorn]

I think I get it but it's so beyond me

I just don't see how those could interfere

[cosmic coyote]

No its not I can’t join nsfw servers from iOS even though I’m a grown adult.

[vapid smelt]

people use safari?

[unreal thorn]

Samsung browser lol

I just use chrome

[manic torrent]

of course you do

[unreal thorn]

Edge on windows because the lack of side panel tabs is a deal breaker for me. I like to view my tabs in list form because I keep a lot open

[full fossil]

(it has them)

Oh wait

[vapid smelt]

imagine needing to do extra steps for a simple function

[cosmic coyote]

There’s no Aliucord on iOS either

[unreal thorn]

I tried looking it up and found nothing

[manic torrent]

is that some ios thing?

[cosmic coyote]

Ikr haha

[full fossil]

It got them like a year ago :)

[cosmic coyote]

That’s fair

[unreal thorn]

Can you send me the relevant tutorial

I found nothing

[cosmic coyote]

Does discord actually drain on android?

[hollow pulsar]

Don’t all apps?

[manic torrent]

.... then what the hell are you talking about

[full fossil]

@unreal thorn https://www.howtogeek.com/697986/how-to-enable-and-use-vertical-tabs-in-microsoft-edge/

[unreal thorn]

I use them in edge

[full fossil]

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-enable-vertical-tabs-on-microsoft-edge/

[unreal thorn]

I couldn't in chrome

[full fossil]

Oh

[full fossil]

Edge is better chrome and chrome doesn't have them

I thought you said edge didn't have them 😔

[unreal thorn]

Local dog explodes

[cosmic coyote]

I dunno I’ve never heard of this problem from other people

[hollow pulsar]

Oh that’s a significant drain.

[full fossil]

Electron still is FUNDAMENTALLY broken on Android

[cosmic coyote]

Is this an anime server

[full fossil]

Y'all need to downgrade to 126.21

Discord electron is SO BAD

holy shit

[unreal thorn]

yes

[hollow pulsar]

Who makes electron?

[full fossil]

It's like so bad

Discord electron is optimized less than my asshole

Y'all use 126.21

And stop updates in play store

[hollow pulsar]

Electron is a web wrapper?

[full fossil]

It works 10x better

Discord on Android via browser is miles better than the app LMAO

It works on my phone at least

Can't say that for the app

[hollow pulsar]

Discord took 2 minutes to open today on my PC. I was kind of wondering why… maybe this is part of why.

[full fossil]

All of you need to downgrade to 126.21 on Android

It's like so much better

[hollow pulsar]

Steam runs waaaaaay better.

[spark nimbus]

is there an audio channel i can test this out? Maybe its just me that cant hear

[cosmic coyote]

Is there anything you don’t hate in life

[hollow pulsar]

Not here there isn’t. Community here kept abusing it to the point the mods would just sit there waiting for someone to grossly break multiple rules in 1 sentence.

[cosmic coyote]

Can’t really censor audio channels

[full fossil]

126.21

[cosmic coyote]

Maybe don’t use a Chinese phone

[full fossil]

I'm using 126.21 as we speak huh

[pliant karma]

so I’m in luck my board has a damn intel WiFi/bt chip

[full fossil]

No it's called casual xenophobia

126.21 is perfect besides dms not having the invitation system

[cosmic coyote]

ccp backdoor drains a lot of battery sir

[pliant karma]

Prob why Bluetooth has never been a problem for me

[gilded quest]

That's a theory all right

[full fossil]

It's like wine, statements with an earthy tone of casual xenophobia

[hollow pulsar]

Lol reddit- the site that punishes you if you use their website on mobile.

[gilded quest]

The only Bluetooth I've had issue with is USB Bluetooth dongles. PCIe/integrated ones have been great for me

Official Reddit client for Android is one of the buggiest apps I've used

[pliant karma]

Do you prefer shark like antenna or the 2 antennas?

[native crag]

MS Teams is even worse. It's also an Electron app.

[gilded quest]

Hmm. The ones that stick out the back are easier to deal with, but all the wifi cards I've had were the puck on a cable

[cosmic coyote]

MS teams is cancer

[full fossil]

I had some issues with it but it actually worked on my phone

[native crag]

Who knows, MS and their fucking infinite wisdom will probably code all apps as Elecron to replace their defunct Silverlight

[spark nimbus]

need to do the following for 1 minute of bluetooth connectivity:
Remove Dongles for both LIGHTSPEED mouse+ keyboard
completely reboot the system
re plugin LIGHTSPEED mouse dongle
connect headphones via bluetooth
re plugin LIGHTSPEED keyboard

within 15 seconds of last step being completed, audio starts to crackle. 45 seconds after last step audio begins to stop. 60-75 seconds after last step bluetooth headphones no longer produce audio, crackling continues

[native crag]

Electron is dogshit slow

[cosmic coyote]

What is the advantage of Electron is it easier to deploy on different platforms or something

[hollow pulsar]

Winforms hasn’t let me down yet. Wish they would allow for better… defaults.

[native crag]

Yes, easy to code for.

The new Windows 11 task manager is also hot garbage. Slow to respond clicking on different items.

Contrasting borders is faint.

[hollow pulsar]

Everyone seems to have this new task manager - I don’t. Y’all running on the beta channel or something?

[cosmic coyote]

Vista/windows 8 > Windows 11

[full fossil]

Windows 11 is the best version

[gilded quest]

In the newest W11 releases

[native crag]

Right. Maybe Win12 will get it right, but I bet they will double-down on more stupidity

[hollow pulsar]

I have the latest as of this past week Tuesday.

[full fossil]

Nah I've actually legitimately really enjoyed windows 11

[native crag]

Can't stand the UI of Win11. Hurts my eyes

[cosmic coyote]

Windows 11 probably is the only one I legitimately hate for a valid reason.

[hollow pulsar]

Windows has always been a horse by committee. Lol

[gilded quest]

I think it should just be enabled by default. I don't recall having to do anything special to enable it. Hmm

[native crag]

JS is shit too

[vapid smelt]

love it

[manic torrent]

actually... it really isn't.