public-chat

[graceful burrow]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[sonic barn]

Are you an expert in temple os

[jagged juniper]

@lapis bronzeWhat's your problem?

[lapis bronze]

somehow my HDD's reallocated sector count after a s.m.a.r.t test shows a threshold of 50

i know what are bad sectors

but i don't know how it's still alive

[jagged juniper]

Bad sectors does not mean instant death

[lapis bronze]

yeah but it's indicating a failing hard drive

[jagged juniper]

Yeah. And you should start working to reallocate the data to a known good drive

[lapis bronze]

not to forget it's also throwing a UltraDMA CRC Errors

[jagged juniper]

So what is your question? Why is it still functional?

[lapis bronze]

which is even more worrying

yeah

[graceful burrow]

Because it isn't dead yet

[jagged juniper]

Because it's not dead yet

[graceful burrow]

Next question kek

[lapis bronze]

most probably it's related to software maybe those bad sectors aren't really failed

[graceful burrow]

A decent ssd is hand over fist better

[jagged juniper]

@full fossilHow much faster is a Porche to a bicycle?

[lapis bronze]

because the values seem very unbelievable to me

it's like overdosing on fentanyl but somehow you aren't dead yet

[graceful burrow]

So don't believe them and when your hdd fails it was chance and not indicated

[jagged juniper]

Drive is failing, Replace it and stop worrying about it

[graceful burrow]

^

You have all the pertinent info and already know what to do
What's there to discuss

[jagged juniper]

My god have you never seen benchmarks or are you messing with us?

[lapis bronze]

it's not an issue to me since that drive has only old games and useless stuff even if it dies i have already uploaded it to a cloud

[graceful burrow]

Nah I believe him

[jagged juniper]

Get the SSD... almost any SSD and ditch the mechanical for main storage @full fossil

M.2... Sata.. dont matter. Pick what fits your system

[regal forum]

Yeah i just freaking hope it gets delivered or i might loose a lot of money

$715

[jagged juniper]

@regal forumDo you have insurance on the package?

[regal forum]

No

[jagged juniper]

Thats what insurance is for

[regal forum]

No, because the package itself is not worth basically anything

[jagged juniper]

You said it's worth $715

[regal forum]

No i didnt

I said ill loose $715

[jagged juniper]

PolskiGopnik — Today at 12:20 PM
Yeah i just freaking hope it gets delivered or i might loose a lot of money
$715

[regal forum]

Yeah

[jagged juniper]

Thats how much the package is worth

How ever much your at risk to loose is how much its worth to you

[regal forum]

If the package dissapears nothing happens

So no its worth neaely nothing

[jagged juniper]

So then how are you at risk of loosing $715?

A different package?

[regal forum]

Because i returned something to a seller but forgot to put in a inexpensive part to it its worth a few dollars

Seller didnt want to refund me

Escalated it with paypal

Paypal said id got a refund offer to get the money back

If i return the bit i forgot to put back

[night heron]

3-4 orders of magnitude

[regal forum]

I need to provide tracking showing the parcel got delivered by the 14th

If not then they can close the case

[jagged juniper]

You bought something and it was broken/wrong so you returned it?

[cerulean canopy]

and infinity in latency

[regal forum]

And i dont get any money back

[night heron]

the latency and random performance is what i mean by the 3-4 orders of magnitude

[regal forum]

Yeah

[jagged juniper]

@regal forum How is the item you sent back which I assume is the original now costing you MORE than you paid for it?

[regal forum]

What are you talking about

[jagged juniper]

You said it cost you $715 right?

[regal forum]

Yeah originally the item

[jagged juniper]

And you sent it back

[regal forum]

Yeah

[jagged juniper]

SO THE ITEM... is worth $715

[regal forum]

No because this is a different package

This package is the bit i forgot to put back

Thats wortha. Few bucks

[jagged juniper]

It's still WORTH $715

[regal forum]

How is it worth 715

[jagged juniper]

Because if they dont get it. its going to cost you $715

Hence to YOU... its worth $715

[regal forum]

If i ship a different package and it gets delivered with the inexpensive bit inside ill still get the money back

I think i know what you are trying to get at though

[jagged juniper]

Reguardless of what the actual monitary value of the item is from anywhere else. This item has the risk of costing you $715. Hence its value

[regal forum]

But its pointless getting insurance since insurance is only for whats in the package, not what monetary loss it may cause if not delivered

I cant claim 715 from dhl because they didnt deliver on time and it costed me that much

Unless i sue them

[jagged juniper]

Because you didnt pay for the insurance to cover that ammount

[pliant karma]

@gilded plinth cable hell ya say lol I just stuffed my ssds in the hdd cage

One thing I hate about this case is the small area I have to work with

[jagged juniper]

@regal forum Let me put it another way

[regal forum]

There is no way dhl would payout because them having a late package caused me to loose 715

[cloud tangle]

Even if he paid for the insurance, lets say it was a screw that was missing. The company is holding the refund until they recieve the screw back. Just because he insures a box with a screw for 715 doesnt mean the insurance company will pay him 715 for losing a box with a screw

[regal forum]

Its not their problem

[gilded plinth]

I'd rather not share my pic in a public server

It's that bad

[regal forum]

Exactly my point

[cloud tangle]

yeah, I understand what you mean

[regal forum]

750w?

[jagged juniper]

If I am shipping you an SSD that I paid $50 for from the store but then loaded up with $5,000,000 worth of financial records that is worth every penny.. I pay for insurance on the $5,000,000 worth of records on that drive when shipping it

[regal forum]

Because its on that disk. Loose the disk, data gone. If this package is lost, i can just resend another

Only a few bucks lost

[cloud tangle]

you might have an argument that there is value in that box, but this guy is saying his box is worth very little in terms of goods, but he will get a large refund for completing a transaction

[pliant karma]

Yep

[regal forum]

Same as me lol

[jagged juniper]

So then why are you worried about the $715 if you can just send another? lol

[regal forum]

Yes exactly this

[regal forum]

Because i have to provide the tracking by the 14th

That shows 'delivered'

[jagged juniper]

So then the cost of the item is irrelevent

Your getting tied up on how much that item actually costs you in money to buy and ship. Not the risks of if its not delivered

[regal forum]

Yeah i guess, but thats nit what dhl insurance would cover anyways im sure

[cloud tangle]

sure, but insurance companies won't pay for the risk of somethign not getting delivered

[jagged juniper]

Thats EXACTLY why you pay for insurance on the value of the risks

[cloud tangle]

you could ship someone a note saying you agree to a deal. Just because not getting that deal done would cost you 100M, the insurance company isnt paying 100M if you insure it that high

[full fossil]

Does anyone here know how to troubleshoot webcams? It flickers green every few minutes or so on Discord. Haven't noticed it on other apps. Tried turning Hardware Acceleration off, still doesn't work.

[cloud tangle]

theyre only covering the goods in the box replacement cost

[regal forum]

Yeah i think daveop is correct here

[cloud tangle]

I used to work for UPS and dealt with these claims a lot. Insurance is for the goods lost, not opportunity costs

[jagged juniper]

If a $10 part will risk me loosing a shit load of money.. I insure it for that shit load of money

[cloud tangle]

I bet the shipping companies love you, because they would never honor that 😛

but they'll happily take your money for the insurance

[jagged juniper]

Thats stupid

[full fossil]

So...I guess nobody here knows how to troubleshoot webcams on Discord? Okay then...

[jagged juniper]

@full fossilMAYBE... go to the Tech-Support channel

<----

[regal forum]

Listen guys, the only reason i came is because of this:

Royal mail has a service that you can track online where is shows when it was sent, and then updare when it was delivered.

It also has a service where it basically shows every step of the way.

I just wanted to know at what point do they update/scan next. When it gets to country? When it passes customes? Etc.
@cloud tangle

[full fossil]

Tried asking questions there before but it's hard to attract urgent attention.

[jagged juniper]

@full fossilSo.. you come to other channels hoping someone notices

[graceful burrow]

it isnt urgent to us kek

[jagged juniper]

If someone wants to offer support they would be looking at tech support

[graceful burrow]

^

[full fossil]

....

[graceful burrow]

if we wanted to be there we'd be there

[jagged juniper]

I dont ask Merch questions on how long my screwdriver is going to take in here... I would go to the merch channel

[graceful burrow]

spittin tbh

[full fossil]

But it is urgent to me.

I have another video chat session coming up soon and I need this webcam to work.

[jagged juniper]

@cloud tangleI legit never even noticed your comments on the discussion I was just narrow focused and would have seen what you were saying and seen the logic.

@full fossil If its URGENT there are services you can pay to get help right away

[full fossil]

....

[jagged juniper]

This is public domain with people volunteering their time. Dont think we owe you our time

[full fossil]

Problem is, NOBODY has responded to my threads before.

[graceful burrow]

many such cases

[full fossil]

If it was a delayed response sure. But if nobody responds to the inquiries, then HOW DO I SOLVE THE FREAKING ISSUE?!

[graceful burrow]

you are not owed help
and we are not obligated to help

[primal ledge]

Has anyone here done a fed ex signature release form?

[jagged juniper]

Just because its an emergency to you, does not mean its an emergency for us

[gilded quest]

i've signed for fedex deliveries

[full fossil]

...

[jagged juniper]

You want prompt service you gotta pay for it or hope someone is willing to help for free

[graceful burrow]

gonna need a lot of hope

<@&750150305383186585> ??

everyone has been cordial until that kek

[jagged juniper]

Aww...did I upset you? @primal ledge Hit you with a bit of truth you cant handle?

And there it is

Knew that was coming. Low quality low effort low talent garbage

[primal ledge]

Your matter of being is more of a roast then anything you can say to me

[jagged juniper]

I like how you deleted the comment right away 😄

[primal ledge]

I didnt

[gilded quest]

poof

[eager venture]

Wtf is this chat these days

[graceful burrow]

cringe most of the time

[eager venture]

Ah. Also how do I get a blue “name”

[remote talon]

I just got my LTT store order and i have to pay 30€ taxes, i thought i already paid for them

[gilded quest]

sub 2 floatplane

[gilded quest]

https://floatplane.com/

[gilded quest]

send support a ticket

[full fossil]

How much?

[gilded quest]

if you go back in time, $3/month

now its $5/month

[jagged juniper]

I love the trolls who hate on people

[full fossil]

Remind me what floatplane does? xD

[eager venture]

Ah I’ll have to pay some money then

Hmmm

What content do u get on floatplane

[full fossil]

exclusive

[gilded quest]

Exclusive behind the scenes
No ads or sponsor spots
higher bitrate than youtube (video and audio)*
downloads available*
direct support of LTT

*should apply to ALL creators on floatplane

[robust fjord]

exclusive videos, exclusive discord chat, direct payment to LMG without youtube in between(which tends to get hackzored by scam copywrite strikers)

[graceful burrow]

Access to secret floatplane chat and voice channel with blue name in the discord server

[remote talon]

Just read that they don't include customs fees

[jagged juniper]

@cloud tangleThanks for the other side for the chats, just finished reading them and yeah I see your point on the insurance

[gilded quest]

did you already pay customs fees when you placed the order?

Im in america so its not something I am familiar with

[remote talon]

Nope but taxes

[gilded quest]

rip europe

[eager venture]

direct support of ltt

Elaborate pls

[sonic barn]

yes

[gilded quest]

all money goes to LTT/Floatplane instead of youtube taking half of ad revenue

[remote talon]

Germany is a greedy bisch

[pale cairn]

So 2 of my friends are playing the same games as me with 0~4% gpu usage while i get 80% (i have 3060, they have integrated graphics)...how .. why

[full fossil]

So it's like YouTube? I thought it was some streaming thing xD

[eager venture]

They’re taxes are like 40%

[remote talon]

*19%

[gilded quest]

its sort of patreon but for video/livestream?

[eager venture]

Oh

[remote talon]

Customs takes ur money so they get payed to look through your stuff

[full fossil]

I see xP

[full fossil]

And pay for tanks

[jagged juniper]

Damn spam callers trying to impersonate one of my banks

[gilded quest]

what if its actually your banker and they just want to make some friends

[jagged juniper]

No.. indian women calling from a fake number labeled T-Mobile Money saying someone "found my debit card"

Huh... thats weird... since I have the only debit card I have gotten from that bank in my hand right now

[full fossil]

Tell her to get a job

[full fossil]

thats when u buy wares (not all)

From my payslip i only get payed 58%
The 42% money goes away as taxes and Insurance

But that heavily depends on how much you earn, are you married and so stuff "Steuerklasse" in german. Translated in Englisch "Taxclass"

[sonic barn]

just tell them to name a random place near your bank

[full fossil]

Floof

[sonic barn]

awoo

[past egret]

get a room you 2

[full fossil]

Awooooo

[full fossil]

You get a room

[past egret]

i do have a room

[full fossil]

How?

[past egret]

im in it?

[full fossil]

Good, stay there

[past egret]

ok

ill go to sleep then

[full fossil]

Me too

[pliant karma]

Lol finally deep cleaned the system. the gpu cables trigger me but I don’t want to risk using cable extensions. Cable mod is a safer option but nah

[full fossil]

Looks good, hoist the sails, let's go!

[fervent prairie]

cable mod extensions? ive used them for years without issue

[pliant karma]

Cable mod should be fine. I just had issues with Asia horse extensions that caused my system to well crash

But realistically cable mod extensions would make managing more hell so I’d just buy the cables straight from the psu

[fervent prairie]

modmesh extension kits are nice. not too expensive 🦆

[pliant karma]

Yeah currently if my system is working we don’t screw with the cables lol stock psu cables are fine

[fervent prairie]

yes but that costs al lot. a lot more

[pliant karma]

A lot more I’m willing to spend if it ever comes to that but I’m happy so far

[idle skiff]

If 4070 roughly equals 3080, what do you guys expect pricepoint to be?

[arctic summit]

suiiii

this is pretty poggers

[slim creek]

$800-900

[gilded quest]

$729

[idle skiff]

The 4070ti is """""$799"""""

[fervent prairie]

if we arent huffing hopium and jensen needs more jackets. id expect like 4070 700$, 4060 500$ and like the 4050 at 350$

[night heron]

the same performance at the same price you were supposed to pay two years ago

that's the nvidia value promise 😎

[idle skiff]

I could see this

[slim creek]

why is it much much cheaper

[idle skiff]

The new bargain card will continue to climb down their lineup until the 9000 is the bargain card

[slim creek]

what would you do with 1000 fps?

[idle skiff]

I'm saying the 4070ti costs "$799" why would the 4070 base cost 800-900

[gilded quest]

start using the term kilofps instead of 1000 fps

[slim creek]

yeah but its nvidia they would have put it for 1000-1100

[gilded quest]

shit, how do I convert FPS to imperial?

[idle skiff]

We prefer images per moment

[gilded quest]

pixels per week

[idle skiff]

I think we are on two different pages

[slim creek]

slides per tick

[idle skiff]

this game has 5 movies per month worth of performance

[split radish]

What are the most fun couchparty games you know of?

[idle skiff]

Jackbox

[night heron]

mario kart

[idle skiff]

Their games are so much better in the same room

[slim creek]

scribble gartic phone

[idle skiff]

Mario kart if you have less than 5 people

[night heron]

wii sports

[slim creek]

jackbox is good when you get a fun round

[idle skiff]

Smash is fun until one person is way too good

[night heron]

uno

[slim creek]

fps chess on steam for free

[idle skiff]

Any of the drawing/word prompt games work great for Jackbox, tee-KO is my favorite

[slim creek]

best games to play is pve with friends so

[stark vine]

I Have a Zatac RTX 2060 and want to swap the two stock coolers with two LianLi SL120 fans, I already have 3 Of them in my front of my case, as well as the LianLi controller, now just to be shure: I would want to put the lianli rgb cable into the controller and the power cable on the Grapics card right ? this way i can set the color pattern in L-connect but the fan speed is still controlled by my Graphics card correct?

[gilded plinth]

Jackbox for sure, Factorio or Civ can be also fun tho

[full fossil]

What's the best game to play without friends?

[idle skiff]

Minecraft modded

Too many hours sunk

[full fossil]

Oh fuck, that's my favorite 😭

[slim creek]

solo games probably ones that are grindy and take time and patience to complete. I played shadow of the tomb raider when my friends were not around so try to play filler story games that require time.

[sonic spruce]

How do you take a Intel cpu fan out

[gilded quest]

carefully

[sonic spruce]

With the black hole ins and stuff?

[idle skiff]

The pack AllTheMods 6 is good, but ATM8 8 is on the most recent version

[sonic spruce]

I would but it’s hard as

[gilded plinth]

In my opinion, Factorio or Rimworld

[idle skiff]

You hit em in the back of the head when they least expect it

[wise flame]

hm

[full fossil]

My first ever YouTube channel I subscribed to was direwolf20 like in 2012 or something lol

[idle skiff]

And then show them the 7x3D performance

[wise flame]

im considering getting second hand fans

[idle skiff]

Nice lol

[split radish]

Factorio, Outer Wilds, Minecraft, Graveyard Keeper is fun too
Beat Saber/Alyx for VR

[idle skiff]

Look into Arctic and Thermalright fans before you do

[wise flame]

blade and sorcery for vr also!

[full fossil]

I should finish uncharted xP I like the story

[wise flame]

tons of fun and psychotic thoughts :D

me bonking the enemies corpses together in blade and sorcery

[slim creek]

get the free games from epic games they are mostly solo story games I got good ones like control and death stranding

[wise flame]

ill look, i think my case fans are the loud part of my pc

[full fossil]

Last time I played RimWorld, my pet rat exploded

[gilded plinth]

That happens

[wise flame]

i tried this db measuring app (probably everything but accurate) and it told me like 60-65db playing apex

which is annoying even w headphones

[echo ridge]

How to ksp

[gilded plinth]

Consider visiting the KSP wiki, it's a great resource

[full fossil]

I will need to google some of those games xD not familiar with them

[wise flame]

ive considered noctua, and i actually really want noctua fans and a cooler, but i hate how theyd look in my case

also awoofy if you've never played thru valve games

they're fantastic solo experiences

[echo ridge]

I keep on failing getting out of earths orbit

[slim creek]

I bought terraria to play solo and ended up starting a world with my friends

[echo ridge]

Why is it so hard its not like its rocket science

[full fossil]

Tbh, I'm more of a XD I need money for food

[wise flame]

arctic p12 pmw pst rgb any good?

[echo ridge]

Yes

[wise flame]

ill try finding them second hand, spending 45€on three fans is rough imo

[full fossil]

Oh fuck I love terraria, it's so amazing

[slim creek]

the website that shows you local jobs near you:

[sonic spruce]

Trying to

[slim creek]

far cry 6 felt short for some reason

[idle skiff]

I've basically gone all thermalright (+ 2 noctua) for mine, and it's super quiet

I didn't realize how loud my other ones were till I installed these

[wise flame]

idk might be my psu

but theres no real way to check

[full fossil]

Welcome to Europe xD

[idle skiff]

But I'll be getting two Arctic P14 when they come out with white argb

[wise flame]

i guess i could unplug them but thats too much effort lol

yk what ill do it after dinner actually fuck it

[idle skiff]

That's where I was too. Download FanControl and go through turning each one off until it's quiet

[wise flame]

thats a thing

[sonic spruce]

My cpu cooler is so hard to take out wtf

[idle skiff]

FanControl can basically "unplug" them through software by turning them off

[wise flame]

i may be stupid

can you turn off the psu one lmao

[idle skiff]

Yaya FanControl is great for fan curves

No PSU fan is controlled internally by PSU*

[wise flame]

acc not sure how youd do that yeah

ill try it ty

[idle skiff]

I'll be at work for the next ~6 hours but if you need any help you can shoot me a DM I'll help ya

[wise flame]

ight thanks

[idle skiff]

I've been in the fan rabbithole looking for good 140s lol

[wise flame]

its testing out the fans right now

[idle skiff]

👍

[pliant karma]

goddamit I accidentally had one of my drives unplugged so now spotify is redownloading all the offline songs

[full fossil]

Unlucky

[winter spindle]

I have like 3 50+ song playlists downloaded

[pliant karma]

and this is why I should secure down my ssds. but nah they're dangling in there like nothing

[graceful burrow]

Luck had nothin to do with a drive being unplugged
That one's a skill issue

[winter spindle]

[full fossil]

I think I seen your build on one of the Intel extreme upgrade videos xD

[pliant karma]

nope never submitted anything to ltt

[full fossil]

I was joking 😭

[pliant karma]

anyways I out masking tape around the sata connections so it is never coming off now

[onyx heath]

Anyone have the link to that video where people were going against Linus in video games for the verified gamer program

[full fossil]

Never heard of that OwO

[onyx heath]

https://youtu.be/pLky4FVnDeM

Has to do with that

[gilded quest]

i miss him

[full fossil]

Who is that?

[fossil frost]

colin

[onyx heath]

Anyone?

[gilded quest]

colin

[full fossil]

I miss Teran, his goodbye video was so sad

[fossil frost]

teran was the type if weird where i was 100% certain that he was faking it for the show

[full fossil]

I'm not sure what you mean xD I liked him

[vapid smelt]

The toilet paper bandit

[full fossil]

Lol

[fossil frost]

the big bang theory... sheldon... a really hammed up character designed to draw people in... not the way anybody would actually act in real life.... teran was exactly that character

[vapid smelt]

#Bidet

[fossil frost]

there are ones in japan that are like a pressure washer that have a soap cycle and then a rinse cycle

[vapid smelt]

But everyone wears bus pants

[full fossil]

I haven't noticed that xD

[gilded quest]

bus pants?

[fossil frost]

if you dont get the reference, then explaining it to you wont help

[gilded quest]

aight

[full fossil]

I'm so cold

Shaking

[fossil frost]

yep, winter does that

[full fossil]

I think i just killed my motherboard

I heard a short then everything turned off. Pc doesn't turn on anymore

[fossil frost]

you probably want to avoid doing that in future

[full fossil]

Renting cheap apartment wasn't my brightest idea xD

Pls dont kill my gpu pls dont kill my gpu pls dont kill my gpu

[full fossil]

Did you use 20eur psu?

[sonic barn]

uwu

[fossil frost]

fully power everything off, at the wall too... leave it for a little while... 5-10 minutes. then go in to the case and look for anything obvious... you will know it if you see it... if there is nothing obvious, turn it back on with the side of the case off so you can see if you see anything happening

[full fossil]

UwU

[fossil frost]

watch for lights, and/or sparks... any more sparks... turn it off.. if you see lights, remember which lights, where and in what order, will help you diagnose what is and is not dead

[full fossil]

I feel bad for him

[fossil frost]

FYI, if it is dead and its taken out anything thats expensive with it (unlikely, but possible) if you have home insurance, stuff like that is USUALLY covered under the contents part of the policy

[fossil frost]

shit happens... nothing you can do about it... nothing they could do about it... just have to deal with it when its your own problem, and not give a shit when its somebody elses problem.. i.e. i genuinely couldnt give a shit if it is dead or not, because its not my problem, but, i will help them diagnose whats wrong if it isnt completely dead

[sonic barn]

do you have a surge protector

if so there's good news if its apc

[wise flame]

ok, figured it out im pretty sure its my cpu

thanks again

[full fossil]

If my pc died, I would lose 50% of my wealth xD

[idle skiff]

Not a problem. I know thermal rate makes some good CPU coolers that are pretty cheap too

Thermal right Sorry I'm using voice to text

[sonic barn]

if a surge killed mine, apc will give me the cost of the computer since I got one of their surge protectors

[wise flame]

i'll look into it, definitely need something different than stock

[fossil frost]

if my pc died, it would piss me off and it would suck balls to have to replace it, but, i could replace it, and, i have slightly less powerful laptop that i use for work

[fossil frost]

same here, except for its a belkin surge protector 🙂

[full fossil]

Oh 🤔

[full fossil]

I'm 90 percent sure it's the motherboard. But i dont like my psu wither

[sonic barn]

it also has a lifetime warranty too

[wise flame]

i'm pretty sure i heard gamers nexus talk about the assassin 120

aaand its on sale right now

[fossil frost]

any branded surge protector guarantees their product for around 10 grand usd/gbp/eur

[idle skiff]

That's what I have. Peerless assassin 120 white RGB

[full fossil]

A pissed off lama is no joke xD

[gilded quest]

llama

[full fossil]

I should get one OwO

[idle skiff]

Top tier noctua performance for a fraction of the price

[full fossil]

My psu won't protect anything?

[graceful burrow]

Or you could just get an Ak620 and match an Nh-d15 wholly kek

[wise flame]

actually this is the assassin x 120

is that any different or are they close enough

[sonic barn]

however don't trust cheap surge protectors

mine is like 70 cad

[fossil frost]

a surge protector is usually rated up to about 1 million volts, and several thousand amps (at a lower voltage level), either of which would melt your psu, and everything connected to it

[full fossil]

That would be surge generators xD

[full fossil]

I see lol

Good thing lightning storms are not common here

[fossil frost]

they are generally designed to protect your stuff from lightning hitting the power cables or phone cables

[sonic barn]

most of the good companies honor lifetime warranties so you basically only need to buy it once

just keep the receipt or if you bought online, the record with bank

[full fossil]

flashbacks to filmora

[sonic barn]

they're gonna get sued

easy court case

[fossil frost]

except that 1. the contractual agreement is on the outside of the box, and by buying it, both parties agree to a written agreement... 2. filmora are gonna get sued right up the butt hole

[full fossil]

I see lol

Can't wait

[fossil frost]

surge protector is one of those things that you buy, knowing you will never need it... but... you should have it because of what happens if you dont have it and you DO need it

[full fossil]

Indeed xP better be safe

[idle skiff]

Looks like the X only had one finstack vs the two stack

[sonic barn]

it doesn't cover other damage if a fire takes it out first from another outlet though

[fossil frost]

its the only reason i have cctv on the outside of my house.... anybody looking to break in at night, can clearly see the IR emitters on the cameras, so will know that my house, and next door, are always watching... so they will decide to move up the street and go to somebody elses house

[wise flame]

they have a bunch of different ones on the same amazon page lmao

[idle skiff]

I have the 2 stack and it's basically overkill for me, I think the X would have worked for me

[wise flame]

the peerless is 40

[full fossil]

I would get red lasers around my house xD

[idle skiff]

Normal ones Thermalright cover at the top, the Special Edition SE has the little peaks on the end that's up to preference

https://a.co/d/5ITbE2p

This is the one I have, works incredibly

[wise flame]

yeah the se is about €42

[idle skiff]

What's your CPU?

[wise flame]

r5 3600

stock is fine but its a bit loud for me so

[gilded quest]

the wraith spire?

or stealth, or whatever they call it

[idle skiff]

I think even the X if it's cheaper should work fine

[wise flame]

yeah the wraith uhh i think this is stealth

[graceful burrow]

It's the stealth

[idle skiff]

But you'll basically never have to upgrade your cooler unless you go with an AOI with the thermalright one

(plus white and RGB if you want it)

[wise flame]

ill probably grab the black one but yeah rgb is always a nice touch

actually

i might not have enough rgb connectors

yeah ill just grab a normal one dont wanna bother with a hub just to get a few more headers

[idle skiff]

The fans have daisy chain on them too

[dusty rune]

pa120 is great value

[idle skiff]

You can run them through each other, and then another signal, on one port

[idle skiff]

I'm off to work now if you need anything else give me a ping or a DM glad to help 👍

[wise flame]

ya thanks

[wise flame]

i would need another cable for rgb though no?

unless i'm stupid

[full fossil]

It is Wednesday

[idle skiff]

No there is an input and output plug on each fan they all connect in a line

[wise flame]

huh

still i think this board only has 2 rgb headers and im using both so

yeah no nvm this mobo doesnt have 5v argb

thats alright

[small dagger]

had the MSI liquid extreme in my cart for MSRP and it sold out...imma be crying in the back room if neone need me

[near nymph]

Mhmm... I haven't received my pop up replacement driver

[full fossil]

I saw Canada

⛄

[fair schooner]

What the heck

I joined the wrong server

[fair schooner]

oopsie

[near nymph]

Yeah... I went thru this yesterday. It's fucky

Lol I assume these are the top nations coming in

I wish we can go back to the paper card

[wide copper]

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_core_i5_13400_review/1

13400 review

[fossil frost]

https://tenor.com/view/pb-and-jeff-spacehamster-peanutbuttergamer-look-at-all-the-fucks-i-give-zero-fucks-gif-13646945

[wide copper]

lmao

[ebon otter]

What is your guy’s opinion on the Pop air case?

[wind pulsar]

Solid cute case

[analog shuttle]

adorable!!!

[mild elm]

Garbage

[orchid kestrel]

your putting a H610 with a 12900KF?
get Z chipset so you can overclock

[mild elm]

Garbage

Ok

I would have helped but you’re just gonna be a little prick

[orchid kestrel]

so ummm, 1st thing is that you dont need all those caps
2nd thing is dont get a H chipset, like come on

[neon igloo]

INTEL i9-12900KF
ASUS PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4
CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 2x16GB DDR4 3200MHz
RTX 3070 8GB
SAMSUNG 870 EVO 1TB SATA3
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 1TB
Be quiet! MC1 M.2 SSD COOLER
CORSAIR RM1000X 80 PLUS GOLD 1000W
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 280X MICRO ATX
iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU COOLER
LGA1700 RETROFIT KIT

[mild elm]

<@&750150305383186585> spamming

👍

[gilded quest]

You beat me to it

[mild elm]

Sorry

[gilded quest]

:(

[mild elm]

Banned for ghost pinging mods

[orchid kestrel]

Im starting to think your a bot

[gilded quest]

Shhhh

[neon igloo]

u guys are dumb, the discord bots would automatically mute me for spamming

[orchid kestrel]

you are dumb for not taking our advice

[neon igloo]

literally not my specs

[orchid kestrel]

then whose specs?

[neon igloo]

some guy's at a battlestation

[orchid kestrel]

why didnt you clarify this?

[mild elm]

Still spamming

[neon igloo]

bro straight up said garbage

[mild elm]

Thought you were asking for help

I was writing something until you posted it again

Then I gave up

[desert pike]

We’re is the best place to buy a windows key at

[mild elm]

Stop crossposting

[gilded quest]

a single keycap?

[desert pike]

Windows security key

[orchid kestrel]

padlock + keycap
you would assume that it would be microsoft

[fossil frost]

microsoft

[orchid kestrel]

or atleast i think microsoft owns windows 🤔

[mild elm]

No

Apple does

[full fossil]

"Nah McDonald's does"

[orchid kestrel]

nah
i do

[mild elm]

Stop with the misinformation smh

[orchid kestrel]

i own windows
yet i dont use windows

[spare narwhal]

Is my hdd on the way out, if I’m playing warzone and other games it takes forever for the textures to load in also the game is extremely laggy while this happens plus the hard drive is pegged at 100% utilisation it’s a 5 year old 5400rpm drive

[manic torrent]

your hard drive was on the way out the day you bought it. SSDs have been a thing for over a decade my friend.

[hollow pulsar]

Is this new behavior?

[vapid smelt]

Hdds for gaming in 2023?!

[spare narwhal]

Thanks I do use a ssd for my boot drive and windows just hard drives for games

[hollow pulsar]

It’s possible the game was updated and optimized for faster drives, such as SSD’s.

[spare narwhal]

It’s quite new behaviour

[manic torrent]

not just HDDs, 5400rpm

[full fossil]

lol

[full fossil]

I still use a hdd for windows

[full fossil]

lol

[manic torrent]

find all the pennies in your couch and buy an SSD

[vapid smelt]

1tb nvme SSD cost $53

[spare narwhal]

I plan to buy a Samsung 1tb ssd when I get paid in a week

[full fossil]

ok then do it

using an hdd is dum

[vapid smelt]

B

[manic torrent]

the best time to buy an ssd was 5 years ago. The second best time is now

[full fossil]

Hdd on my old pc and ssd on my main pc

[full fossil]

ok?

[hollow pulsar]

An excellent plan. Make it so, number one.

[full fossil]

ok

[manic torrent]

I haven't used spinning rust on an interactive machine (ie not server) in a very, very, very long time

[full fossil]

It's shit. It took 25 minutes to load in windows

[spare narwhal]

Yea I’m gonna get a m.2 one I think will it affect the bandwidth to the gpu

[full fossil]

we know, everyone knows

[hollow pulsar]

I thought I was the only one who used that term. Lol

[full fossil]

🤔

dude my poor braincells its way to early

[manic torrent]

m.2 has to share lanes with pcie 1? .... colour me skeptical.

[fossil frost]

more polite than my reply was going to be

[full fossil]

hardwareboob id like to share lane

[spare narwhal]

I’m not sure what I’m on about too behind I thought it share lanes which affects gpu performance

[gilded quest]

idk.....i wouldn't put it past motherboard makers to do some stupid shit

[gilded quest]

what motherboard model

[full fossil]

so stop sharing lanes

[manic torrent]

tldr: no

[spare narwhal]

Gigabyte b660

[gilded quest]

they make a million b660

[full fossil]

you can go look up your mobo specs yourself

[gilded quest]

which gigglebyte model

[full fossil]

gigabyte turned to sht after covid ngl

[vapid smelt]

Dude has a modern 12/13th gen Intel rig with a hdd for games

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[spare narwhal]

B660m ds3h

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[kindred coral]

I use HDD for games too

[full fossil]

ill keep embed failing untill i get embed perms

and im not worried if i dont get them

[kindred coral]

SSDs are expensive af

[full fossil]

but also fail indeed

[manic torrent]

I used to. The reason I stopped was simply the noise. Particularly when steam would update a game and I was doing something else.

[full fossil]

what's wrong with using a hdd for games

[full fossil]

its dum

[manic torrent]

a 5400rpm hdd?

[spare narwhal]

I have a i7 12700f and rtx 3080

[full fossil]

:((

[kindred coral]

Ohhh it was that laud? I can't hear my HDD

[full fossil]

and ur using a mechanical hd

[manic torrent]

My noise floor is very low and the rest of my system at moderate use is (literally) whisper quiet

[gilded quest]

it doesn't share bandwidth from what i can tell

[full fossil]

i like to walk
puts a cast on their entire leg

[full fossil]

7200

[spare narwhal]

Oh good thanks

[manic torrent]

yeah this dude is running a 5400

[kindred coral]

Actually no

It works same good just slower loading, but tbh, I don't have any problems to wait a second or two more.

And I won't buy 500GB ssd for 100$ if I can buy 3TB for the same price

[full fossil]

ehh

[spare narwhal]

Who needs rgb on a ssd

[manic torrent]

all the RGB, all the time

[analog shuttle]

nobody needs an ssd to begin with

[kindred coral]

Ohhh, that makes sense then, I hear it only when I'm putting pc on, even tho I'm having system on my ssd.

[gilded quest]

the board doesn't have enough expansion to warrant PCIe switching lol

[manic torrent]

nobody needs to do anything to begin with. Go into the forest and let the moss reclaim you

[spare narwhal]

Oh good my boot drive is a sata ssd

[analog shuttle]

yesss i wish!!!

[kindred coral]

Actually for at least loading Windows it's much than appreciated, for anything else? Nah

[vapid smelt]

1tb SSD is $53 and curb stomps hdds

[manic torrent]

I'mma order breakfast delivery, because I'm worth it

[vapid smelt]

Loading times random lags loading in big parts of maps

[kindred coral]

50$ 1tb
Please god, move me to that country 💀

[kindred coral]

Never happened to me

[vapid smelt]

You have to deal with terrible health care

[spare narwhal]

my hdd has had 136 days of being powered on

[kindred coral]

Oh true, we've got excellent one here

[manic torrent]

AUD

[full fossil]

i literally wipe my butt with hundos just buy it

[full fossil]

no point buying some rn when I have hdds sitting around not being used

[kindred coral]

Mine is almost 2 years and literally no problem at all... No lagging games, no slow loading maps, everything smooth

[full fossil]

im literally blocking i cant

[manic torrent]

.... I am building a PC winch mount. estimated cost about $500

[full fossil]

nice

ill literally wipe my butt with a hundo

[gilded quest]

take the HDDs to a shooting range

[full fossil]

I do that with my dead ones

[manic torrent]

and then just wash it?

[full fossil]

burn it, i dont care

[spare narwhal]

No it stores all that good fun material

[full fossil]

and then ill buy the nvme

[manic torrent]

Also nobody uses cash anymore

[kindred coral]

Wow, congratulations, wanna price for that or what? Attention seeker

[gilded quest]

in Aus?

Cash is still common in the states

[full fossil]

i printed the hundo out into a bitcoin address on toilet paper

cash is very common

[hearty spear]

https://vimeo.com/28968265

[manic torrent]

yeah massive uptake of tap here, I don't even carry a wallet anymore

[gilded quest]

a vimeo link?!?!?!

[full fossil]

[fossil frost]

one of the many ass-backwards things that the USA does

[full fossil]

rip vimeo

[hearty spear]

ya huh

[gilded quest]

People don't trust banks lol

[spare narwhal]

I have all my cv’s and important documents on my hdd

[full fossil]

good for you?

[hearty spear]

clicky clicky. Audio's dumb, but the content is awesome
(Can skip ahead to about 1:02 for the real part)

[full fossil]

hopefully you have back ups

[kindred coral]

💀 it's on back of your card, why would you...

Nevermind

[spare narwhal]

I wish I did

[full fossil]

.... ima also block

[kindred coral]

Oh wait

[full fossil]

my desire to talk this dum is just zero today

[kindred coral]

I read it wrong lmao

[spare narwhal]

My hitachi hdd is the best thing in the world

[kindred coral]

Who the hell cares?

[vapid smelt]

Why do you say dum not dumb

[kindred coral]

Because he himself is dumb

[full fossil]

my b is broken

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

itch

😏

[kindred coral]

^^ that's good you're happy with it

[vapid smelt]

itcoin

[mild elm]

Lie

[vapid smelt]

I ditched all spinning rust in like 2017ish

[gilded quest]

phrasing

[full fossil]

Opinion on hdds?

[vapid smelt]

Idfk why it autocorrected to fucked lmao

[full fossil]

ban

[full fossil]

this?

[vapid smelt]

If you need over 6tb if storage get a hdd

[gilded quest]

because it knows what you do

[spare narwhal]

https://www.box.co.uk/HDWU105UZSVA-Toshiba-V300-500GB-3.5-SATA-6Gbs-Video_2344301.html

[full fossil]

I mostly just use them for games

[full fossil]

dont do*

[spare narwhal]

£100 for a 1tb ssd 💀

[gilded quest]

lmao

you don't wanna know what I paid for my first ssd

[spare narwhal]

lol few hunderd

[gilded quest]

$180 for 500GB SATA III (850 EVO)

[spare narwhal]

ouch

[gilded quest]

it was pretty decent pricing when i got it

i've had it for 7 and a half years now; still going strong

[vapid smelt]

I paid $110 for a 1tb MX 500 for my first

[hearty spear]

Navy, did you look at the link? lol

[gilded quest]

i got a 480GB drive a year later for $75

[fossil frost]

£51 for a 1tb gen4 https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-kingston-nv2-ssd-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-ssd-3d-tlc-3500mb-s-read-2100mb-s-write

[hearty spear]

My first ssd was a.... 120gb that was... 150 or 200$?

[gilded quest]

the hdds? yeah
Slow Mo guys need to remake it lol

[hearty spear]

That'd be awesome

[vapid smelt]

with gen 3 speeds

[hybrid shell]

^^

[fossil frost]

yeah, but compared to his HDD...

[kindred coral]

My first SSD was 1tb sata Kingston and for 83€

[manic torrent]

oh nos ... nobody will ever know

[gilded quest]

lol @ gen 3 vs 4 speeds mattering

[hearty spear]

was probably SATA 2? Or at least my board was SATA 2 lol

[vapid smelt]

Once I get my 10 Gbps internet it will!

[hearty spear]

nope

😛

1GB/s is still way slower than gen 3

[gilded quest]

my LAN is 2.5GbE but my WAN is only gigabit

[vapid smelt]

Anyone want to rewire my house for cat 6 and pay me $180 a month so I can have 10Gbps internet

It's a great deal

[gilded quest]

you can get 10Gbps from ISP?

[full fossil]

can i wear a maid dress while i do it?

[vapid smelt]

Yup symmetrical uncapped

[gilded quest]

holy fucking fuck comcast

[vapid smelt]

Uptopia fiber OP

[spare narwhal]

That’s good a have a 250gb Samsung sata evo 860 for my main boot drive and important stuff the hdd is for mass game storage

[vapid smelt]

https://www.utopiafiber.com/10-gbps-info/

[hearty spear]

My Desktop has 4 SSDs:
2 NVME, 2 SATA
2 are 1TB, 2 are 2TB

So yeah, I have 6TB of internal SSDs

[vapid smelt]

I just use a single 2tb gen 4 nvme

[full fossil]

ive prolly got like 20tbs of nvmes

[gilded quest]

500GB 850 EVO
500GB 860 EVO
480GB MP510
960GB MP510
1TB 660p
1TB P31 Gold

I'd like to switch the P31 gold with another 660p and run the 660p in raid 0

[vapid smelt]

Old school drives

[gilded quest]

yes i've collected drives over the years

i buy them when pricing is good and I need more storage

or just find them in my apartment for some reason

[vapid smelt]

Respawning ssds

[wanton glade]

yo guys can one of you recognize the game briefly shown at this moment of the video ?

https://youtu.be/dnbb5pcaSr4?t=713

[vapid smelt]

No

[wanton glade]

:(

[wanton glade]

tf

[full fossil]

[slate tulip]

how much? My ISP will offer me up to 5Gb/s but it's over $200/month

I'm currently paying for 2Gb/s, it's about $120/month, but work reimburses a portion of it

[vapid smelt]

$180 + 20 so technically $200 for symmetrical uncapped 10Gbps

[slate tulip]

dang. That's definitely a lot. What are you using internally for your network? I have an OpnSense DEC2750 for my router and then mikrotik switches with SFP+

[wise flame]

which one lol

[wise goblet]

I pay $100+ for 165Mbps

[wise flame]

i'm debating on getting either a 750w or a 650w tbh

[vapid smelt]

750

[wise flame]

shits expensive

[wise goblet]

if the difference in price isn't great I'd just go for slightly more W than I need

[wise flame]

i found a cx750m 2024 for 75€ but that seems weird

[vapid smelt]

Yeah it's $99 for a good 750 unit

[wise flame]

im just really trying to get something cheap and decent

[stray lintel]

Anyone know the difference between a Shelly smart relay and a Philips hue wall switch module?

[brisk mortar]

Hey gamers i got a question... is a 3060 good for high settings in rocket league

[gilded quest]

rocket league runs fine on a steam deck, so im gonna assume yes

[wise flame]

how's the cx750m tho

[vapid smelt]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[wise flame]

yeah ive checked

[brisk mortar]

?

[wise flame]

but they dont mention it lol, at least not the 2021 ver

[vapid smelt]

O fuck wrong tag sorry

[wise flame]

a 1060 will do the job no problem

[brisk mortar]

Ok ty

[vapid smelt]

I suck at tagging in mobile

[wise flame]

its really not a demanding game

[sonic spruce]

What about 960?

[wise flame]

honestly 960 could work

[sonic spruce]

With i7 3770?

[wise flame]

eh yeah i dont see why not

rleague can basically run on anything

[sonic spruce]

Ok

[slate tulip]

@vapid smelt

[sonic spruce]

Anyone know where I can get those plastic fan things to mount fans on my case?

Amazon only

[pliant karma]

like hiding easter eggs

[full fossil]

you mean a fan grill?

[slate tulip]

I don't think those are plastic usually?

[full fossil]

I mean u can probably get plastic ones

[slate tulip]

huh. I guess? Never seen them

[winged basin]

What's a good motherboard for a R7 5800x?

[gilded quest]

x570 godlike

[full fossil]

Same tbh

[winged basin]

Budget friendly....

I blew my budget with the cpu and gpu

[dusty rune]

should have gotten a 5700x

[gilded quest]

bro you HAVE to give us requirements and a budget

or else i will always recommend stupid shit

[spare narwhal]

i5 3570 with a 4090

[gilded quest]

ask good question, get good answer

[winged basin]

It's not stupid shit, It's a another good choice if I plan to save up for it if I can tho.

[full fossil]

Maybe tell us your budget so we know what to tell you...

[kindred coral]

Not 2 duo with 4090 and 400W psu?

[gilded quest]

no the godlike is actually stupid lol

[pliant karma]

how is it? lol panda totally not looking to randomly upgrade his motherboard all of a sudden

[gilded quest]

godlikes are over a thousand dollars or something

[kindred coral]

You answered basically yourself

[gilded quest]

maybe not the X570, but the current ones are

basically a meme motherboard

[winged basin]

I just seen the price and yes, that is kinda overkill on the price XD

[pliant karma]

I spent way too much on my current b550 board so there is that. only reason I would prob buy an x570 now is to put my 5900x to and move my 5800x from my older b450 to my 550

then sell my b450 to my cousin so when he comes i can just put my 2700x in it and give it to him

[winged basin]

Not kinda but it is truly overkill XD

[fossil frost]

ive got my 5950x in a b550... x570 was completely unneeded

[winged basin]

What's your b550?

[pliant karma]

but also an excuse to go itx 👀

[fossil frost]

msi mag mortar b550m (matx)

[pliant karma]

x570 itx boards have more usb ports iirc? then b550

[gilded quest]

if you don't need the additional expansion, no reason for X570

[winged basin]

Looks clean and with a good price.

[pliant karma]

I do kinda so ehhh x570 is technically worth it for me those extra pcie lanes and usb ports cause I am a usb hoarder

[fossil frost]

one of the best VRM setups in the 5xx series boards too

[winged basin]

No rgbs right?

[gilded quest]

yeah same reason I got X470

[fossil frost]

it has headers, but no lights on the board no

[winged basin]

I like it

[fossil frost]

i have 2 usb devices plugged in

[pliant karma]

I got 9 🙂

[gilded quest]

lol

[fossil frost]

lightspeed receiver for my keyboard... lightspeed receiver for my mouse.. 😄

[pliant karma]

adding a 10th one later

[dusty rune]

i have 5 or 6 plugged in i think

[winged basin]

damn

[dusty rune]

got a gigabyte z690 ud

[fossil frost]

i will SOMETIMES.... have a 3rd device plugged in... and thats my phone, when im live-testing an android app im writing

[pliant karma]

when you start simming the amount of gear joystick, rudder pedals, throttle, maybe a control panel etc gets out of hand

[fossil frost]

everything i have that has a usb port, mainly has it for charging, and thats it... so i have a set of high power usb plugs in the kitchen, and everything gets charged up in there... sat on a granite worktop, which acts as a HUGE heatsink, so nothing ever gets out of hand when charging

[pliant karma]

though I did move some items to my monitor usb hub

mostly the 2 mouse recievers, keyboard, and charging cable for my mx master 3

[winged basin]

is gigabyte B550 aorus elite any good too?

[pliant karma]

blame plouffe for getting me into coiled keyboard cables.

[fossil frost]

similar class to the mortar, vrm wise

[pliant karma]

I got the msi b550 meg unify. practical no, but it was a last minute replacement foe something that happened to my last board

[molten drift]

I can't wait for the HDMI switch navy recommended that should be arriving tomorrow

[full fossil]

If my 3080ti is dead I'm kms

God damn shady psus

[pliant karma]

were you using the gigabomb?

[full fossil]

No a cooler master 800w i got from a hp prebuilt

[dusty rune]

hp prebuilt, that said enough

[full fossil]

Which is weird. Cus i was trying to undervolt my cpu and that sent a spark somewhere

[fossil frost]

sure you didnt accidentally massively over volt?

[dusty rune]

ship it to me ill tell you if its broken

[full fossil]

I sure hope not. Unless it was. I think it was amd override and something else

[fossil frost]

a HUGE overvolt could explain the sparks you said you saw

[full fossil]

All evidence points to a psu fault tho.

Heard btw

[fossil frost]

and if you did... your gpu should be ok, but your motherboard and cpu will be toast

if you heard rather than saw, that does point more towards the psu

[full fossil]

See that's where tomfoolery turns to tom-fu**ery

I think cpu and mb survived. But the moment i plug in my gpu it doesn't wanna boot

[fossil frost]

so what have you tried? booting without gpu? and it appears to boot?

[full fossil]

How do i know this? First off i reseted the cmos. Pc restarted.

Ez debug light only switched on for the vga light

[fossil frost]

what cpu do you have in the board?

[full fossil]

5800x

Sadly no output

[fossil frost]

ah. so no APU you can test it with...

you dont happen to have a multimeter do you?

[full fossil]

0 spare parts. It worked flawlessly before

[cerulean saffron]

does android 11 support Vo5G (or VoNR)?

[full fossil]

I do

[fossil frost]

if you know what you are doing, i would suggest checking your GPU power cables that are coming from the PSU, to make sure you are seeing 12v

[full fossil]

Check tech chat quickly

2 8pins are plugged in and the rgb is cycling

But plug it into the mb. It shuts off

[fossil frost]

ahh... so.. lights up when not plugged into the board?

[full fossil]

Yep

[fossil frost]

you have a short on your 12v line on your motherboard

[full fossil]

Specifically when cmos is reseted too

[fossil frost]

your motherboard is fucked

[full fossil]

Only the motherboard? Phew

[fossil frost]

if its lighting up without being plugged into the board.... but then immediately shutting off when you plug it into the motherboard... it very much sounds like there is a short on the motherboard that is pulling all 12v directly to ground

have a look at your VRMs on your motherboard.. does any one of them look different to the others

[full fossil]

Hidden behind a heatsink

Msi b550tomahawk

[fossil frost]

have a smell down near the vrms :D, see if anything smells... burn-y 😄

[full fossil]

Smelled my gpu thankfully. No burns

Let's smell

[pliant karma]

that's good

I had the gigabomb psu take out my dell optiplex+boot drive and hdd

luckily gpu lived

[full fossil]

Nothing in particular tbh but it smells just a bit funky

[polar fern]

Sigh 😔

[fossil frost]

tbh, if the GPU had blown anything and created a short to ground, the RGB wouldnt light up

[full fossil]

My thought exactly

My diagnosis was either a psu or mb issue

[polar fern]

Smells funky how?

[fossil frost]

acrid?

[polar fern]

Did it smell like more like electrical smelling or a smell like burnt food?

[full fossil]

Can't put my ginger on it

[fossil frost]

dont put anything ginger on it, it will catch ginger 🙂

when the gpu isnt plugged in at all... and you try and boot the system with no gpu at all.. what happens then?

[full fossil]

It starts

Cycles. Turns on the keyboard

Ez debug light gives a no vga error.

Boots normally basically

[polar fern]

What is the closest thing you can say that it smells like?

Sweet, sour, bitter

[fossil frost]

give the PSU a sniff while you are at it

[polar fern]

Does it smell stale?

[full fossil]

Ok psu smells funky

[polar fern]

Like it was wet?

[full fossil]

Stale yeah

[fossil frost]

partly to see if it smells different, and partly because its funny to keep making you smell stuff

[full fossil]

Smell fetish

[fossil frost]

im leaning back towards an iffy psu

[polar fern]

👃

I’m wondering if one of the big capacitors let go

[fossil frost]

totally thought that was a weird banana until i overed over it for the tooltip

[polar fern]

That’s what she said

[full fossil]

I think im on the right track of it being either a mb or a psu issue at least

[gilded quest]

Bruh

[full fossil]

So damn happy it aint the gpu

Let's smell the gpu btw

[gilded quest]

Someone ping me when chat gets nuked

[fossil frost]

connecting his gpu to the motherboard creates a short... so im thinking something died in the psu now, and connecting the gpu to the board, with the power connected to the gpu too... is shorting the PSU to ground, via the GPU

[polar fern]

If it smells kind of musty or stale, it’s possible the thing was submerged in water

Even just a quarter of an inch of water can completely ruin a computer, especially if the power supply is at the bottom of the case

[fossil frost]

could even have just been splashed, or gotten damp with it being cold, thats enough to kill a psu

[polar fern]

Mhm

[full fossil]

Aha. I tried connecting the gpu to the board without pcie power as well. Same results

Ie it shuts down

[polar fern]

That’s why on a lot of electrical components and equipment you will see that specifies non-condensing with humidity

[pliant karma]

so plugging in the power for your gpu before you slot it into the motherboard can potentially kill the board? well that is you kept the psu on the entire time

[sonic spruce]

Rubber I mean

[manic torrent]

that's an extremely weird circumstance though

[full fossil]

rubber mounts?

[full fossil]

No that's not real. It will run its just that it won't be recognized until next boot up

[fossil frost]

its possible, especially if you plug it in wonkey and bridge some connections on your way in... but... it would be your own fault for doing that because you would really have to be trying hard to do it

[pliant karma]

trying to remember what the hell I did to kill my optiplex but that was as close as I can remember doing with my 2060 lol

[fossil frost]

pcie slots draw power from the 24pin... so whichever 12v line on the 24pin gives power to your slot, may be dead.. or... a trace somewhere between that line and the slot

[pliant karma]

also on accident that time so thank god it was not something I saw sentiment to. Mostly free geek pc

[full fossil]

So i guess we all agree. Test a new psu st first if it works the n dead psu of it don't then a dead mb

[fossil frost]

just to be sure, if you have access to another PC, test your gpu in another pc, just to eliminate that as causing the short... only because its the easiest part to swap into another system

[polar fern]

Are there any spots on any board or any paintwork anywhere That looks discoloured?

[fossil frost]

especially around the 24pin socket

[full fossil]

My thoughts too. Trying to get a hold of a test bench hopefully tommorow morning so I can try it

[polar fern]

How long have you had this and where did you get it from?

[full fossil]

The gpu?

[fossil frost]

that was gonna be my next comment... how old is the gpu, and did you buy it new

[fast parrot]

I should probably install Gentoo on my dual core laptop with 4gb ram

[polar fern]

I mean, is there any rust anywhere or any weird residue?

[fossil frost]

installed gentoo on a raspi 2b+ :), was less than fun 😄

[fast parrot]

I would be using my desktop as a binhost

[fossil frost]

i didnt, i did the lot on the pi

[full fossil]

Traded in my 3060 plus cash for it. The guy who owned it didn't game at 4k anymore so he stepped down.

No residue. No rust. And apart from my k5pro bu**ke nothing else is wrong with it

[polar fern]

Hmmm

[full fossil]

Turboed all the way to 80°

[fast parrot]

like seriously, compiling all the packages on two cores?

[fossil frost]

yep, took 3 days

[fast parrot]

I already spend quite a while compiling them on my desktop

[polar fern]

All I’ve had to eat in the last 16 hours is a bowl of yoghurt and a mug of oatmeal early this morning

[fast parrot]

a system update takes me around 3 non-consecutive days

[fossil frost]

full stage1 build of gentoo on my desktop takes about 30-40 minutes 😄

[polar fern]

Some food I ordered via Amazon arrived a few days ago and I was going to try it out and end up spoiled and I had to throw it all away

That was going to be my lunch

[fast parrot]

don't only devs have access to stage1

or something like that

[fossil frost]

noope, anyone can do stage1, but they dont get released as a release to download, you have to have an existing bootstrap system to build your own

[fossil frost]

you just reminded me that i put some extra chicken in the oven before when i was cooking, and i forgot about it 😄

need to go and transfer whatever is left of it, to the fridge 😄

[polar fern]

Don’t mind me, I am just on the verge of having a low blood sugar issue because there’s nothing I can really eat in the house

[fossil frost]

and by before... i mean about 6 hours ago

[fast parrot]

I don't update my system much because it's not worth updating every day

I rather do it all at once

[polar fern]

Yeah, this was in cans and the sell by date was 2025

A bunch of the lids were leaking and puffy

[fast parrot]

Unless I am, for example, switching init systems then I could update the packages and not just rebuild them

[fossil frost]

amazon fresh? just refund it, they wont want it back, they will just issue the refund and tell you to throw it away

[polar fern]

No.0

[fossil frost]

doesnt fix the problem now... but it at least means you are not paying for whatever shite they sent you

[polar fern]

they already refunded it - wasn’t a grocery order though

It was tuna in what were supposed to be pull tab cans but it was the wrong cans. the picture on the listing on Amazon, looks basically the same as what I normally order.

[fossil frost]

i still cant eat tuna after an incident 2 years ago

[polar fern]

Yeah, I have had food incidents of various types in my life and the only thing I don’t really eat. I actually started eating small amounts of the last few years.

[dusty rune]

man i love tuna sandwhiches

[fossil frost]

had some tuna in a tin in the fridge... decided to open it and make a tuna mayo sandwich with it... ate it.... seemed... not right, but still edible... was only after i finished the lot and was cleaning up, that i noticed that the tuna i was eating in 2020... expired in 2017...

what came in the hours following... was deeply unpleasant

[dusty rune]

how do u have a can of tuna for that long

[polar fern]

I just mix it all up with mayo in a bowl and add a whole ton of seasonings. Now the jar of mayonnaise is taunting me because I can’t have any tuna and it’s literally the only reason I got the mayonnaise

[gilded quest]

It's the best

[fossil frost]

it was just in the back of the fridge, and it was lockdown, so couldnt stock up as much... and i just noticed it there, assumed it was somewhat recent and ate it

[polar fern]

Oh no!

[gilded quest]

Tuna/chicken salad is honestly my default sandwich order

[polar fern]

When, in doubt throw it out

[fossil frost]

just the smell of tuna now, makes me feel like im going to shit myself

[gilded quest]

I'm a fan of canned smoked fish

[dusty rune]

i should pack a tuna sandwhich to school sometime

[fossil frost]

there was no doubt, because... why would i have tuna that expired 3 years prior, still in the fridge... because who does that.. 😄

[gilded quest]

My roommates says the odor makes our place uninhabitable

[dusty rune]

actually i shouldnt cause then ill need 5 more

[polar fern]

sounds like you had some listeria poisoning

[fossil frost]

i almost shat out my own skeleton

[gilded quest]

So if I want some kippered herring, I have to eat it outside

[polar fern]

Yep.

[gilded quest]

I did a lot growing up

[polar fern]

Just make sure you include a cold pack with it, so it stays fresh

[gilded quest]

I think there was a year or two that my mom made me roast beef sandwiches every day; same with PB&J at one point
I can't stand either now

[polar fern]

and I used to eat jelly with my peanut butter growing up, but I can’t stand jelly I prefer jam or preserves

[gilded quest]

I'd rather have PB or jam on toast

[dusty rune]

i had a chocolate and milk allergy at one point, worst time of my life

[polar fern]

The only food I don’t like is just because it tastes and smells like an air freshener

[gilded quest]

Or a slightly frozen uncrustable is a good time in the summer

[polar fern]

The food sanitation and safety part of me can never accept partially frozen food. It is massively actually dangerous.

[gilded quest]

Wat

Uncrustable comes frozen and it's supposed to thaw before you eat it

Eating it straight from the freezer is safe

[polar fern]

Certain bacteria and fungus actually go dormant when they are frozen or refrigerated. When it thaws out, they start to multiply very quickly to the point where the food can become dangerous, even if it was safe to eat previously.

Anything with sugars in it

[fossil frost]

we seem to be somewhat opposite on that... i will literally eat a sandwich right after handling raw chicken without washing my hands.. maybe i will get the chicken juice off by wiping it on my jeans.. but thats the limit

[tepid bolt]

Slightly frozen hotpocket is the best summer snack

[gilded quest]

What in the actual fuck

[vapid smelt]

Pretty sure one of my old stomach hernias reopened today 🙃

[gilded quest]

This but uncrustable

[polar fern]

I can’t eat any of those super processed foods

[gilded quest]

Wait. Like not microwaved long enough, or do you simply thaw and eat...

[tepid bolt]

Not microwaved long enough

[gilded quest]

hmmmm maybe

[tepid bolt]

It's amazing so many people missing out

[fossil frost]

ive never been a germaphobe.. been that sort of person forever... also... i only ever get ill, once a year, a get a mild cold just before xmas... but when everyone else is dying from flu, or crippled with full colds... or getting whatever other illness is going round, im sat here eating sometimes not very cooked food, and am completely fine

[gilded quest]

Isn't is a salmonella risk?

[tepid bolt]

This mans immune system eats salmonella for breakfast

[fossil frost]

not if it knows whats good for it

[vapid smelt]

That should be illegal

[gilded quest]

What about slightly frozen uncrustable

[fossil frost]

i have had salmonella poisoning once... from OVERCOOKED lamb, in a restaurant, in egypt

[vapid smelt]

My high school religiously served those

[tepid bolt]

Uncrustables are mid, just make a pbj

[gilded quest]

If I'm gonna make a sandwich I'd rather make a good sandwich