public-chat

[summer folio]

DC++

[kindred coral]

Aren't they just fixing issues?

[full fossil]

yes

yes they are

[iron iron]

I was only joking, I thought that was pretty clear based off the crossed out text, my bad if it wasn’t

[full fossil]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/north/north/charcoal-black-tg-dark/

The wood on the front is just chefs kiss

honestly if they keep doing this it might be worth buying one as much as i hate it

[kindred coral]

So... I guess i feel about it that they fix their mess

[fossil frost]

they are "just fixing issues" but some of those issues are that the drivers are just that shitty and terrible

[full fossil]

Do I need a monitor to use an egpu on a laptop

Intel GPU lol

[mild elm]

Fractal case is so vague

[full fossil]

waiting for full intel setup

[kindred coral]

No?

[indigo plume]

well most I saw were 200+

cad

[mild elm]

Not true

[full fossil]

Linus gives me indigestion

[pliant karma]

If they do end up releasing an itx version oh yea it’s gonna be bought in a heartbeat

[indigo plume]

corsair one was cheaper than any fractal case I saw

[wanton glade]

Well don't eat him, you cannibal

[full fossil]

I wish it was a bit bigger with more GPU clearance on the front but I can make it work

[mild elm]

Cheapest fractal case is 62 cad

[full fossil]

Both Corsair and fractal make a lot of dif cases so yeah it depends

[wanton glade]

How much usdollar is that

[mild elm]

Google

[full fossil]

Don't Canadians use the Looney or something

[pliant karma]

If there is a way there is will. It’s called force fitting.

[full fossil]

Very true

[indigo plume]

cheapest I see on pc part picker is 124

[full fossil]

Is also cool because you can slot fans on the side? Which I haven't seen in a case in many years

[mild elm]

Blind mf

[pliant karma]

Can’t fit a 280mm aio in the front of case no problem self tap screw into the aio. That’s how I fit it in an h510 for shits and giggles

[indigo plume]

im litterly looking rn and sorted by price

[kindred coral]

I randomly wonder if gamer girls has own server at least i wouldn't feel so alone... Or would be eaten up by others, who knows...

[mild elm]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KPw323/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl

But 120 still proves you wrong

[summer folio]

I found the original Fractal Design Refine 1 at a flee market for 5$

[leaden gale]

The way I see it though, a gamer girl is honorarily one of the boys

And the boys look out for their own

[indigo plume]

that case didnt show up on my search

[mild elm]

You have an ATX mobo selected

The Corsair 4000D airflow was the better choice

But stop telling people about how a fractal case is so expensive

Since fractal makes tons of cases

[full fossil]

Hello

[mild elm]

And you’re misinforming people

[summer folio]

They are expensive.

[indigo plume]

well at very least more expensive than corsiar

[full fossil]

Is the arozzi arena a good desk?

[summer folio]

It must be because you guys have to "import" them?

Fractal is from my country, Sweden. Used to be cheap atleast.

[mild elm]

Again, so vague

[summer folio]

50$ for Refine series & C at sales

Just get with solid side panel

Glass looks disgusting, no rgb allowed.

[indigo plume]

how does glass look disgusting lol

[warm glacier]

Nah computer are better than women

[soft musk]

What psu would you guys recommend for a 3900x + rx6800 + rtx2070super ?

[summer folio]

You can still crossfire Nvidia+AMD Cards?

[leaden gale]

Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W

[mild elm]

Why 2 gpus

[summer folio]

Crossfire superior performance duh

[mild elm]

Enermax Revolution D.F. 850W

[indigo plume]

I thought dual gpus was dead

[full fossil]

Imagine a language where you choose what your dice will roll xP that's the kind of language i really wanna focus on making when I quit my shit Job xD

should i get linux or windows

[mild elm]

Windows

[soft musk]

No, its for 2 vms

So something 850w or better

[full fossil]

For what?

gaiming

[full fossil]

Are you committed to hours of troubleshooting?

why should i do that

Do not use Linux unless you're a programmer/cyber sec of some sort. Period

[wanton glade]

That's called basic programming lmao, even 17yo me who only knows python can do that 💀

[full fossil]

Then Linux is not ready for you xD sry

[soft musk]

Also not being able to play some games (valorant)

[leaden gale]

That's a horrible generalization, but okay

[full fossil]

i make games

Or unless you want to seem more intelligent than you are and brag about using Linux like a dbag

[full fossil]

valorant suck anyways why should i play that

Idk just in my experience Linux users are obnoxious but I'm sure I'm wrong

[summer folio]

Slackware

[full fossil]

tf is that

As much as I hate to say it Windows is best for compatibility

[full fossil]

I haven't used windows in 2 years xD

If you want shit to "just work" and not have to fiddle with your OS , don't use anything else

[kindred coral]

I see

[full fossil]

Don't get me wrong Linux is great if you know what you're doing, like actually know

It's better for privacy/security for sure

And less bloat

[summer folio]

Just get Windows XP, no bloat

[full fossil]

idk what bloat means but k

[kindred coral]

Just virus

[full fossil]

But I'm a moron and DON'T know what I'm doing, so I don't use it lmao

I'd say if you make games you don't need it

ok

[summer folio]

widgets
weather
time
clock
taskbar

stuff u dont need

[full fossil]

Use visual studio for code and whatever engine you need, it's all gonna be compatible on windows

[full fossil]

i need all of that lol

[full fossil]

That ain't even bloat imo, windows bloat is more Skype, Teams, fking Disney+

[warm glacier]

Im talking from my new laptop now!!!! Im so happy rn

[full fossil]

Like why the hell is that all preinstalled

[full fossil]

Congrats!

[warm glacier]

Thank you1

[summer folio]

:clueless

[warm glacier]

The keyboard is gonna take some getting used to though its alot different than how my chromebook was

[full fossil]

wait i have do go my brother died

Weather and news I'll give you, those are pretty useless to a lot of people

[full fossil]

Rip?

[summer folio]

Not Qwerty?

DVORAK

[warm glacier]

no it was my chromebook was just rly small and this comeputer is a 14 inch

[leaden gale]

I'm sorry, what

[full fossil]

Does anyone else take issue with how Redux literally does not put DDR5 in their PCs? Like with every other part all new but they don't have that

I was looking into them as a possible option but like what even is that

I was interested because Linus was shilling it but that's kinda strange imo

[full fossil]

mhm sadly my parents called hospital

[fossil frost]

DDR5 at current latency and speeds, doesnt make much difference over the more mature ddr4, especially not at the prices DDR5 is going for

[full fossil]

I mean I guess but it's going to phased out soon I'm sure

[fossil frost]

ddr4 will be around for a while yet, ddr5 will start to mature within the next 18 to 24 months, and be what ddr4 is now to what ddr3 is now

because you still find "last gen" systems that run on ddr3, and its.. ok... just not great...

[summer folio]

What, Bet they have higher latency than CL4 also.

[leaden gale]

I'm sorry for your loss man, that's terrible

[full fossil]

yeah

[summer folio]

Corsair Dominator DDR2 Master Race #tech-chat-1

[hearty creek]

cortana

+windows update sucking back more ram than chrome even when i asked it not to update

[full fossil]

The most useless piece of software

Is the rx 7900 xt worth it coming from a gtx 980?

[leaden gale]

That's a massive jump

[wind pulsar]

That'd be a massive upgrade

Enough to consider getting an entirely new system, truthfully

[eager venture]

Massive is a understatement lol

[full fossil]

Oh i am. Im waiting for 7950x3d quite literally as my last part rn

I already have xfx speedster merc310 rx 7900 xt, wd sn850x 4tb ssd, asus x670e extreme mobo, evga t2 1600w psu, 64gb ddr5 6000cl30 ram, fractal torrent case, noctua nhd15 cooler. Literally just waiting for the 7950x3d to launch and using my old pc until then ;p

Im on i7 6700k and gtx 980 rn

I would have gotten the 7900 xtx but i didnt find it feasible to spend $1400+ on the card because of scalpers so i spent $770 for the rx 7900 xt instead

[wind pulsar]

I mean that's fair, but $770 isn't a price you should be able to get a 7900 XT for, lol

[kindred coral]

Yup, it'll be high jump like from 970 to 3060

[leaden gale]

$770 7900 XT? Where?

[full fossil]

It was priced that way on amazon for a single day then went back up to $920, the prices have been fluctuating on amazon lol

Shipped and sold by amazon

[wind pulsar]

I guess lucky? But that still doesn't make sense, considering the asking price at launch is $900

[full fossil]

🤷‍♂️ my guess is amd just wants to move more product because they aren't selling at the current msrp and amazon updated the price too soon and i got lucky

[kindred coral]

That's good as long as you're happy

[full fossil]

I will be happier when the 7950x3d launches xd

Do you think itll be gone to scalpers on launch or think ill have a chance to get the 7950x3d?

[kindred coral]

I think there's always a chance but I'm an optimist so

[idle skiff]

Nvidia gonna hit us with the "new entry level card" with a 4040 that has the same performance as a 3050 for $400

[full fossil]

Were cpu's wiped by scalpers before?

[normal knoll]

Every time i hear Laszlo Supernova i have a random urge to drop Graphics Card

I have urge to make a short video of Linus dropping RTX3090 and legit after the drop LTT intro start

[full fossil]

Linus felt a disturbance in the force

Whatsup with everyone in other servers saying the rx 7900 xt and xtx is bad lol

[echo ridge]

Gigantic

[full fossil]

Gigantic what?

[echo ridge]

About 5-6x faster

[full fossil]

Oh i didnt know the rx 7900 xt is between the 3090 ti and 4080 in terms of performance

😮 thats intense!

[echo ridge]

Graph is a little inaccurate at the high end

[full fossil]

Oh?

[echo ridge]

But it should be closer to the 4080 btw

[south harbor]

Random q, yk how intel have been using E and P cores for their 12th gen and 13th gen cpus, what is the official name that intel use for this tech

[full fossil]

So for $770 thats a hell of a card compared to the 4080 costing what. $1400-1700 rn?

[echo ridge]

Your getting a 7900xt for 770

What the fuck.

[ocean narwhal]

Hybrid architecture I guess?

[full fossil]

LOL amazon had the xfx speedster merc 910 black listed at that price for a short while the other day

My order went through. Shipped and sold by amazon.

Its listed at $920 rn though

Just lucky timing, same day i got paid

[south harbor]

oh right, i thought there was a fancier name for it 😭

tysm

[ocean narwhal]

ARM calls theirs 'big.LITTLE' architecture

[snow herald]

CES 2023 is very soon, I'm hoping to see decent working 7680x2160 ultrawide monitors

[full fossil]

@echo ridge do you know when the 7950x3d will be purchaseable?

I haven't ever been around for new hardware launch right at release date so idk how his works

[echo ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-magic-crystal-ball-doing-magic-gif-21616194

[leaden gale]

The Rothschilds magically manipulating GPU pricing so I can never get a worthwhile upgrade from my $400 1080 Ti around the same price

[full fossil]

Inflation

[full fossil]

Not that kind of dice cute stuff xD

[hearty spear]

When did you get a 1080TI for 400$?

I got a steal on my 1080 for 380 in the 2 weeks between the TI launch, and when mining and scalping blew up pricing again

[full fossil]

Should i wait for 7950x3d or just buy 7950x and enjoy my new build?

[unique trout]

hmm guys i think about getting this guy here
https://www.amazon.de/GLOTRENDS-unterstützt-Bifurcation-Motherboard-erforderlich/dp/B0BHWN7WKD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3D95HF37OOR2M&keywords=asus+hyper+m.2+x16+gen+4+card&qid=1672773349&sprefix=ASUS+Hyper+M.2+X16+Card%2Caps%2C119&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1&smid=A1NC51ORMQANC2

bcs i only have one m.2 slot on my motherboard

is that a good thing or any ideas what i have to look out for

or this guy here https://www.amazon.de/Asus-Hyper-m-2-X16-Card/dp/B07PCKTL1J/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=asus+hyper+m.2+x16+gen+4+card&qid=1672773522&sr=8-3

[full fossil]

If you use a pcie m2 nvme slot it drops your gpu down to x8 from x16

[unique trout]

eeeh

why that? wouldnt that depend on my cpu?

[polar fern]

Uh

Yeah that’s not how that works

They don’t share lanes

[full fossil]

If its in a pcie slot it is how it works lol read the mobo manual

[unique trout]

lol, pretty sure it doesnt drop by default to 8

[polar fern]

Typically no unless it’s some jank board with lane sharing or something.

[unique trout]

it was... msi .... x99... or so

err

[full fossil]

I cant post pics so i dm'd you a screenshot from the manual transitbiker

[polar fern]

You don’t need more than a 1x for nvme

[full fossil]

Thats not what im saying

Im saying it drops your gpu's pcie lane to x8 if you use that second pcie slot

[polar fern]

For most boards that’s not how it works

[unique trout]

x99 sli plus

msi

[full fossil]

sigh for the new intel and amd boards thats exactly how it works. I've looked at them all

[unique trout]

that would be incredible dumb.

[polar fern]

So you’re stating that all these new systems can only have one PCIe card?

[full fossil]

NO do you not know how to read?

[polar fern]

Even with newer chips having up to 4 PCIe x16 capability?

[full fossil]

I literally said it now for a third time. Using both pcie slots drops them both to x8 speeds. Using the single pcie slot runs at x16 speed

[full fossil]

I'm still learning xP

I even sent you a pic from the manual for asus's highest end flagship mobo rn

I dont know how you are not understanding

[polar fern]

These are “gaming” boards?

[full fossil]

Yes

[unique trout]

@full fossil that makes no sense. there hase to be some sort of spec defining this

[polar fern]

Ah, there’s your problem

See I don’t own a share of that market & neither do many others. Your blanket statement missing multiple qualifiers

[full fossil]

The duck has spoken

Is it bad to unplug PC if it's off but I didn't switch the PSU off?

[polar fern]

Neither of my computers use these bling boards.

No.

[full fossil]

What do they use?

[indigo plume]

so I got a refund from newegg cuz gpu was lost in shipping and now It just showed up on my front door so i just got a spare gpu now lol

[full fossil]

Based, what did you get

[polar fern]

That’s how it goes sometimes

[indigo plume]

7900xt

[full fossil]

Very nice

Don't tell them

[indigo plume]

wonder if they will charge back

[polar fern]

That’s theft but yeah

[indigo plume]

cuz it says delivered on newegg site now

[full fossil]

Not theft if it's their mistake

[polar fern]

It’s theft

[full fossil]

Its still theft lol

[polar fern]

Or wire fraud

[full fossil]

Free money

[polar fern]

Gotta send it back

[young silo]

you ate yet today?

[full fossil]

Nooooo

It's a free GPU that happened to show up on my doorstep as far as I'm concerned

Oh bother, now how did this get here

[polar fern]

They have shipment tracking

[winter spindle]

Just don’t tell anyone

[winter spindle]

🤓

[full fossil]

Newegg can track my nuts

They can lose a few bucks here and there

[polar fern]

Yeah the carrier also in on the secret

[full fossil]

Remember, it is always morally correct to scam big companies

[winter spindle]

7900xt is 7900xt

[unique trout]

iv read a bit about this but i dont think my gpu would drop...
my cpu has 40 lanes
my gpu takes 16
especially bcs i ended up with a SLI motherboard...

[hearty spear]

Suddenly you're not bitching about newegg, eh?
😛

[hearty spear]

What CPU has 40 lanes?

[polar fern]

If they see “refund issued” then “delivered” you got about 30 days to return before they contact you.

[full fossil]

I only buy my GPUs from Wish

[unique trout]

nvm 28

still enough

[full fossil]

Or AliExpress

Can't beat the quality

[hearty spear]

Also @indigo plume remember how I said, sometimes Customs can just take a week (or longer?)
Guess I was right, huh?

[full fossil]

What reason did you choose for refund?

[full fossil]

It was AMD

[polar fern]

That it wasn’t delivered

[full fossil]

Lol

[hearty spear]

He contacted Newegg and they decided it was lost in customs

[polar fern]

Lost in Yonkers

[spice arrow]

Hey where do i share a video from my drone when i crashed it 25 min in to 2023

[polar fern]

YouTube?

[full fossil]

7000 series amd and x670/x670e mobo's

[full fossil]

https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/

[hearty spear]

Is there a good reason to share it?

[spice arrow]

i dont know

you can see the fireworks from above

[full fossil]

What i wanna know is why people think its a good idea to share stuff like that that has happened

[hearty spear]

then it's probably not intended for this server

[full fossil]

If it didn't take out a kids eye or something probably not

Only takes a tiny bit of info to trace shit down to you xd

[full fossil]

Interesting, i guess they decided wrong and there is no reason to return it xD

Now that's entertaining

[hearty spear]

were it me? I'd hold onto it for a while, in box, etc. And if they don't contact me after a month or two? Well... free GPU

[polar fern]

How much was this card?

[full fossil]

Yeah I'd just wait to see if they reach out

[hearty spear]

7900XT, so like 1K

[full fossil]

If they don't contact you like that's actually on them

[polar fern]

Yeah return it.

[full fossil]

Nah don't spend your own money on shipping and stuff, wasn't your goof

[full fossil]

What if they operate at the pace of the irs so they dont collect the money until 3 years later

[hearty spear]

for things like that, there are very limited time windows they can do it.
Also: They're not the fed, so laws are not nearly as on their side.

[polar fern]

Hot merch sitting around not a good look

[full fossil]

True

[full fossil]

Good idea xP

[indigo plume]

im sending it back

[polar fern]

👍

[full fossil]

Irs is a scam company anyways lol they take so much from us

You should have donated it to the salvation army

[indigo plume]

if I keep it thats stealing

[hearty spear]

no, they're a shit organization

[indigo plume]

and will get in trouble

[full fossil]

I'm sure a homeless person could use a GPU

[polar fern]

They should be able to email you an RMA label

[full fossil]

Just contact them and pay if you need it

It's AMD, maybe they could start a fire with it

[polar fern]

To print out

[full fossil]

I like amd more than intel/nvidia these days tbh.

[polar fern]

Now if they refund you again that’s on them

[full fossil]

Lmao

[polar fern]

🤷‍♂️

[full fossil]

Money printing glitch

[hearty spear]

They're all shitty.
Corporations don't like people. People are just sources of income to them.

[full fossil]

I know they dont

But amd has better drivers than nvidia as of lately it seems

[stoic beacon]

Don't like/dislike a company, like/dislike their products

[polar fern]

🚣

[full fossil]

And i feel weird with an intel cpu and amd gpu

[stoic beacon]

That...I would massively disagree with lol.

[full fossil]

People are sources of blood on my Skyrim

[full fossil]

Nvidia drivers have been constantly crashing on me lately no matter what i do unless i roll back to 4xx.xx drivers

[polar fern]

Mobile blood storage

[full fossil]

Bad drivers

[bronze glacier]

does anyone know in what video had the graph plotting high end GPUs against inflation adjusted MSRP and die size?

[stoic beacon]

Odd.

[winter spindle]

Pc drama

[indigo plume]

nvidia drivers have been shit recentlyt

[polar fern]

Die size?

[full fossil]

Sounds like windows problem to me xP

[full fossil]

Not odd just nvidia has bad drivers xD

[stoic beacon]

True, all it takes is one dude walking in here and saying the PS5 is so much better than the PS4 that there's no point in buying a PC

And all of a sudden, all PC users are banding together

[bronze glacier]

yeah, the size of the chip in the GPU

[stoic beacon]

Nah, I'm going to guess user error on this one. I have to test on multiple PCs, and their drivers haven't ever been an issue for anyone on our team

[full fossil]

Best answer is to have a ps5, xbox series x, switch, and pc.

[full fossil]

Fair enough they do have better value I'll give you that

Now no one can tell you whats bad or great if you habe them all

[full fossil]

🔪

I only play on my Leapfrog these days, I OCd it

[bronze glacier]

i cant seem to find the video anymore, i'm pretty sure it was by LTT

[full fossil]

You must not play a variety of different games

[polar fern]

@bronze glacier

[hearty spear]

to be fair, the PS5 is a LOOOOT more powerful than a PS4

[winter spindle]

I have have that but with ps4 and Xbox one

[stoic beacon]

I develop bits and pieces on thousands of them, but sure, I don't know what I'm talking about

[winter spindle]

I’m selling xbox one

[full fossil]

Nvidia drivers are fine, if they have conflicts with software, the software is shit

[full fossil]

Proof?

[indigo plume]

Ive hard issues with nvidia drivers too mate

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, it was a massive jump. I just thought it was funny that the introduction of the SSD is what made them suddenly think it was something that had never been seen before

[full fossil]

Anyone can claim anything on the internet

[stoic beacon]

"Look look! I can fast travel and it only takes 9 seconds!"

[full fossil]

All im saying is my experience with nvidia drivers has been poor lately no matter what i do

[full fossil]

I'm the prime minister of Estonia

[full fossil]

You have a team?

[stoic beacon]

No, I'm a part of a team, I don't "have" the team

[full fossil]

They do tend to throw out new updates too often

[winter spindle]

Xbox one is so slow, takes like 5 minutes to get into halo infinite, then it runs like a Gt 1030 that got shot

[full fossil]

Like for every big game release. Just not necessary imo

[full fossil]

What kind of team?

[stoic beacon]

The PS5 is definitely the first console that has ever caught my eye though, especially with the current state of PC component pricing

[full fossil]

This is true. Its annoying having to update all the time with the process of ddu and restarting etc etc

[hearty spear]

I just use fast-travel in skyrim to power-level spellcasting

[stoic beacon]

An outsourcing company for game producers

[full fossil]

Bro why are you using DDU every time

[winter spindle]

I got a 3060 laptop for $1000 and I’m content

[full fossil]

I thought I was OCD with my tech

[stoic beacon]

When a game dev company bites off more than they can chew, they toss the technical stuff at us so they can focus on the actual design of the games

[polar fern]

🤔 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/wireless-charging-coils/75

[indigo plume]

last year or so nvida drivers have been poor

[stoic beacon]

Does this make Skyrim pay to win then?...

[vernal osprey]

Hey guys

[full fossil]

[hearty spear]

isn't fast travel free in skyrim?

[polar fern]

@vernal osprey coming in here like some YouTube intro

[full fossil]

Remember to like and subscribe

[winter spindle]

What’s up

[full fossil]

So im not the only one with issues with nvidia drivers lately?

[polar fern]

“Hey whatsup guys”

[stoic beacon]

Oh, I was referring to fast travel on last gen consoles taking a longer time than a PS5 or an expensive PC

[full fossil]

Any big clients yet?

[stoic beacon]

We've worked for big clients for a long time, it's not a new company

[full fossil]

That's just a difference between drive speeds I'm guessing

[polar fern]

Stop body shaming @full fossil

[full fossil]

Does PS5 use Pcie gen 4?

[full fossil]

Lol

Or whatever the console board equivalent would be

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, that's what this conversation has been about...the shock and awe of the PS5 being a magical device that has never before been seen on this earth comes down to a $90 SSD

[full fossil]

So you claim to work for a game dev company?

[hearty spear]

skyrim has a bug with channeled spells:
If you're channeling a spell when you initiate fast travel? The game counts it as you casting the spell for the /ENTIRETY/ of your trip across the map.

[full fossil]

Lol yeah I missed the rest of that

[analog wren]

is floatplane worth it?

[full fossil]

Do you write any code? OwO

[polar fern]

Ps5 uses unicorns & rainbows 🌈

[stoic beacon]

Not anymore, nearly everybody that doesn't use a proprietary engine is switching to Unreal, which uses Blueprinting instead of traditional code

[full fossil]

Transitbiker or bikertransit

I'm a Sony fanboy myself but I still don't have a PS5 and don't see a reason for it

All the exclusives are slowly coming to PC, what's the point

[stoic beacon]

Since there's no need for retopology or baked lighting in UE5, it saves them a lot of time and money

[analog wren]

[hearty spear]

cuz it's a great console?

[full fossil]

I'm not gonna buy a console for like 2 games

[analog wren]

[full fossil]

Silent hill 2 remake and silent hill games were the only thing that was gonna make me get a ps5 but since they are all coming to pc i see no point. Now if the rumored mgs remake is a ps5 exclusive that would make me get a ps5. Unless thats pc also

[full fossil]

Yey, finally someone who doesn't use unity xD

I guess if ALL you do is game and nothing else then it's probably a good buy though

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, the timing was just bad. PC prices have never been higher, PS5 is finally a lightning fast console that can support good graphics, and then....

The PS5 is out of stock for ages and exclusives start coming to PC right when prices start coming back down

[full fossil]

But if you make any kind of content or do work then a PC is better

[polar fern]

@full fossil

[stoic beacon]

Unity is the worst game engine I've used besides Cryengine. It just got lucky with its marketing.

[full fossil]

Ideally yeah but I just don't want to drop the cash on something for a handful of exclusives

[full fossil]

But you can't do everything in blueprints as far as ik, some code is required xP

[polar fern]

Wha?

[full fossil]

I'm also going to be dead in the ground before I pay 70 dollars for a damn video game

[polar fern]

Oh wrong tag

[full fossil]

60 dollars was already too much

[full fossil]

Lol

[stoic beacon]

Eh...so far there have been VERY few instances where blueprints haven't sufficed. And when they don't suffice, you can use C++ to make a custom blueprint node, and then Epic usually implements your custom nodes into the next engine updates

[polar fern]

$60 jus tew much

[full fossil]

Especially when a lot of the time nothing is even on the disk, you have to download shit after the fact

[stoic beacon]

It's almost like...you're not buying a physical product....

[full fossil]

Well yeah but there's just a markup on console stuff that shouldnt be there

[polar fern]

Crypto bros be like

[full fossil]

That's my point

The same game is 60 bucks on PC

Why does nvidia even exist at this point

https://youtu.be/OCJYDJXDRHw

I mean sure 10 bucks ain't much but it's just irritating

[stoic beacon]

Ah, yeah, games should probably cost the same across the board. Though, developing for multiple consoles is more expensive, but it should be 70 on both PC and console

[full fossil]

Gosh I wish I had time to learn game dev 😭

The other thing with PC is that I have more fun on some 20 dollar indie game than I do on 70 dollar AAA titles

[stoic beacon]

It doesn't make much sense to be 70 on console and 60 on PC, but the publishers know console players are statistically more likely to pay a higher price, the same way Apple has determined their users are more likely to pay a higher price for digital stuff as well

[stoic beacon]

If it's any consolation, it's about 400x easier now than it was 35 years ago

[full fossil]

The smart phone for dumb people ™️

[stoic beacon]

UE5 removing the need for retopology in the past two years removed about 20% of the work you have to do, which is just insane

[full fossil]

They need to charge more for games, cuz they make consoles cheap af :V it's how they make their money back

[stoic beacon]

Before, you had to choose between "medium poly modeling" or the high/low poly method. Now you can just go high

[stoic beacon]

That's fair, assuming it's Sony forcing the developers to set the prices they do...if Sony takes a larger cut of sales compared to Steam, then yeah, the console price would be higher

[full fossil]

Unreal is becoming truly unreal xP

[stoic beacon]

But I just looked it up, Sony takes 30%, just like Steam, Xbox, and seemingly everybody else

Except for Epic, which only takes 12% from devs

[full fossil]

My gtx 980 idles at 29.6c with a hotspot temp of 43.7c at idle does that sound right?

[stoic beacon]

Because they subsidize everything from Fortnite

[full fossil]

Lol

[polar fern]

Forknife

🍴

[dull granite]

Is RX 7900 XT actually worth getting? (if you cant find a good GPU besides it)

[full fossil]

I have the 7900 xt

Id say yes. Considering the price of everything else

In a normal market with everything at msrp and in stock. No. In the current market. Yes its the most sensible gpu

[stoic beacon]

Unless other prices change, yes. Though I would recommend waiting to see what happens with the 4070 and other GPU releases that are coming up

[full fossil]

4070 ti looks to be slower than the 7900 xt while only being $100 less

[stoic beacon]

If you're in a hurry though, it's a good call

And if you don't need raytracing/CUDA

[full fossil]

7900 xt does ray tracing just fine xD

[stoic beacon]

Otherwise, wait for the 4070 to see what happens

[full fossil]

New drivers will make it even better

[dull granite]

what the huang happened to RTX 3080 prices :C

[full fossil]

Ethan who are you

[polar fern]

Who’s this ray person everyone trying to find?

[stoic beacon]

Still hopefully going to fall over the next couple months

I guess we'll see though

[polar fern]

Wait, if you’re trying to trace someone named ray, why do you need a graphics card??

[dull granite]

also in my regional stores half of RDNA2 GPUs are gone :C

also like 1/3 of ampere

[stoic beacon]

I guess technically, you could use the processing power to run simulations and blast through databases to accelerate your tracking of ray

[polar fern]

@dull granite works at the pronoun factory. 👍

Ah yes. I see the wisdom now

[full fossil]

Anyone buy from beach camera before?

[stoic beacon]

Have you considered buying used? eBay is pretty good for GPUs at this point, and lots of people are upgrading to 4090s and 4080s so they can run Minecraft at 700FPS

[full fossil]

LOL bruh

That has me rolling

[polar fern]

700 fps but monitor only 120 hz

[manic turtle]

I think I have an idea to help nvidia stabilize the rtx4090 HOWEVER we need to test it somehow on an undamaged 4090

[stoic beacon]

700 FPS but monitor only 60hz*

[polar fern]

Oh my

[full fossil]

700 fps but physics are tied to 30fps

[polar fern]

There are a lot of monitors that I’ve used that actually can dip down to 50 hz

[stoic beacon]

It's wild how of the 40 or so people I know that have a 4090, I'd say only 15 of them use it properly, as in, playing games that need it/have a monitor that can output the frames

[full fossil]

I have a crt monitor thats 1440p at 180hz lol the old school thicc one

[manic turtle]

Anthony is it possible to get Linus on board with a test water cooled 4090rtx?

[stoic beacon]

The people that are super into Minecraft and Terraria with $3,500 PCs crack me up

[manic turtle]

🤬

I guess secondlife users also crack you up too? HMMM?!?

[dull granite]

????

[stoic beacon]

Secondlife takes an absurd amount of CPU power, so not as much

Still don't need a 4090 for it

But a 13900 wouldn't blow my mind

[full fossil]

$8000 pc but plays only old school runescape

[polar fern]

@full fossil

[full fossil]

And farmville on Facebook

[full fossil]

The one i have is viewsonic

1440p 180hz

[polar fern]

Oh interesting

[dull granite]

wdym by this

[polar fern]

“All the pronouns”

[manic turtle]

Ethan take your words back on minecraft. You just lit 2 kegs

[dull granite]

what it does to do with any factory

[polar fern]

well, clearly you have to have a pretty good supply?

[dull granite]

oh yea

[compact canopy]

But…but what if I wanna go to shader hell with a ridiculous render distance

[full fossil]

💀

[stoic beacon]

What? I love Minecraft and think it's a brilliant game. I think it's funny that people play vanilla Minecraft with 4090s

[polar fern]

Shaders yukk

[stoic beacon]

I guess that's the time you'd need a 4090, if you're into that sort of thing

[compact canopy]

Sadly it’s the closest you can get to actual ray tracing in java

[polar fern]

Kerbal space program tho

[stoic beacon]

Threadripper time

[manic turtle]

I use shaders transit. Nothing wrong with them unless you get the horribly done ones

[polar fern]

Yis

[stoic beacon]

Which shader? I'm curious if you use one of the bad ones

[polar fern]

Naw. They’re all eye bleach level irritating

[stoic beacon]

What genres do you like?

[compact canopy]

Honestly I’m not even sure a 4090 is needed then but still

Wow fighting words from transit

[polar fern]

🍞

[dull granite]

indie games

[manic turtle]

Basically what I’m talking about is one’s made by amatuers

[fossil frost]

kerbal space program

[stoic beacon]

Multiplayer or Singleplayer?

Battle royale, or not?

[manic turtle]

One of mine for example is parallax

[dull granite]

all these "gamers arent fun anymore" bro/sis youre playing Warzone 24h a day 7 days in a week what do you except

[stoic beacon]

A man of culture, I like it. Do you care about progression a ton, or do you value gameplay over progression?

[polar fern]

Kerbal on a dual threadripper board with 4 tb ram

[river wigeon]

the guy in the nvidia announcement looks kinda mad in the beginning

[polar fern]

@river wigeon 👀

[river wigeon]

and suuper disinterested

[river wigeon]

👀

[dull granite]

play older games, why play new shitty game if you havent played mario galaxy or metal gear solid (the old ones) or donkey kong country

[stoic beacon]

Halo Infinite is fun, MWII is fun (assuming you aren't obsessed with camo grinding shipment), Titanfall 2 is probably the best multiplayer FPS I've ever played, but you need to use the Northstar servers, as the official servers are no longer officially supported

Quake Champions is fun and fast paced

[dull granite]

the last of us 1 recently re-released on PC

[stoic beacon]

Insurgency Sandstorm is great, if you like slower paced, more tactical shooters

[fossil frost]

fall guys is a decent casual multiplayer... my 10yo loves it

[polar fern]

I play very few games. Minecraft, KSP, cities skylines, sinking simulator & a few of the diepio type browser games

[summer folio]

Quake III Arena is fun & fast-paced

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, good luck. Battle royale ruined the FPS genre for me, and it's sad how many developers feel the need to shoehorn the BR mechanics into every game they make now

[fossil frost]

and older than most people in here too 😄

[dull granite]

you can make battle royale good

if you make it unique

thats why Warzone 2 DMZ is fun

[fossil frost]

call of duty ruined FPS... every game became COD with a different skin once COD MW (first oine) came out

[stoic beacon]

You can, but I don't like the genre in general. Period. That's why I don't like that everyone feels the need to do it

[dull granite]

i mean

tetris 99 is a good battle royale

[stoic beacon]

You really think so? I always felt that titanfall and halo were great examples of deviating from the COD norm

[full fossil]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck4Z534urQX/?igshid=Yzg5MTU1MDY=

This never gets old

[dull granite]

no RNG, and youre actually playing the game all the time

[polar fern]

Power washer sim

[stoic beacon]

There's also Rainbow Six Siege, which doesn't feel like COD

[dull granite]

thats what you get for cooler master AIO

[stoic beacon]

I do think that COD ruined Red Faction though, which is sad

[polar fern]

I wonder if there’s an RSS RSS.. 🤣

[summer folio]

bethesda.net/en/game/quake

[full fossil]

Lmfao its not me

[dull granite]

also how this even happened

[full fossil]

Crunchy ram though

[dull granite]

i know?

[summer folio]

@stoic beacon How about above? any good?

[fossil frost]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_(video_game) 1996 🙂

[stoic beacon]

I enjoyed Quake Champions for a time...arena shooters have always been my favorite, up until Titanfall 2 came out

The original Quake was brilliant, but I never got the chance to play it myself

Wasn't as much of an industry changer as Doom was, naturally

[summer folio]

I guess, only played Quake III Arena from 1999 myself.

[fossil frost]

quake and doom between them, changed gaming as a whole... not just FPS

[polar fern]

The original quake on max settings was brutal on that gen of pc hardware

[dull granite]

gotta make this Celeron 300A sweat

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, it was made during an awkward time period where the 3D capabilities were much too far ahead of the PCs that were running the engines...you could make good stuff in 3D, but there was no chance of it running

[polar fern]

Textured polygons per second

[dull granite]

and geforce 256 jraphics card B)

[stoic beacon]

Now, we're on the opposite end of things, where it's difficult to make assets so good they outstrip a PC

[fossil frost]

i was 11 when quake came out, and 14 when quake 3 came out 😄

[deft lake]

yo anyone have recomadations for a headset under 80 CAD

[stoic beacon]

How much do the HyperX Cloud 2s cost in CAD?

[summer folio]

#audio-tech Maybe

[deft lake]

150ish

[stoic beacon]

Ah, they're $120, I found them...yikes, that's rough

You could also look into Sennheiser EPOS, if you can tolerate the overpowering bass

Otherwise, I'd recommend saving more, since with audio, you really do get what you pay for...why buy e-waste now when you could buy a permanent headset in a few months?

[deft lake]

i also found these on amazon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07MDPCQTZ/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1

[polar fern]

I have a GeForce 4 ti 4600 on my old powermac.

[compact canopy]

this is honestly p hype

[stoic beacon]

They're very good quality headphones, but they aren't going to sound super amazing on the sound end or the mic end

They'll work though, if that's what you need

[dull granite]

dammnnn

its pretty fast

[dull granite]

yoo

[polar fern]

Yeah it was a beast.

[dull granite]

128mb of vram

[deft lake]

honestly yea cuse the ones im using are prob older than me

[polar fern]

Yepppp

[dull granite]

freaking fast 800mhz

[dull granite]

this is how PCI pins look like?

[polar fern]

AGP

[dull granite]

AGP

yo

accelerated graphics port

[full fossil]

"The way it's meant to be played"

[polar fern]

And the tab near the bracket is for power

I was able to buy this brand-new in 2001. It was by far the most powerful computer out of most of the people I knew had.

Gig of ram too

It currently has 1.5 gigs.

Was very fortunate to be able to buy that thing

10 years later, it was still going strong. The only thing that really stopped it was macOS updates.

[full fossil]

Has a gpu ever sagged so much it broke the pcb?

[fossil frost]

i remember having boards where AGP was a feature on the box... where normal boards had PCI slots and ISA ports... then ISA slots started to be removed, and you would get 3-4 PCI slots and 1 AGP slot... then you started getting boards around 2005 where you would get an AGP AND a single PCI-E slot, with 3-4 PCI slots... and then gradually the AGP slot was dropped and the PCI slots were gradually replaced with PCI-E slots to where we are now

[polar fern]

@fossil frost yep. That’s pretty much how it went with middle tier+ stuff. Lower end stuff still had the pci for a while

[fossil frost]

and now... PCI-E 7, 1x slots will have as much bandwidth as a 3.0 x16 slot

[polar fern]

I got these out of storage to use temporarily back in 2020

Hence no desk

[fossil frost]

all my old stuff is at my uncles house, in the garage, buried under a mountain of other crap 😄

[polar fern]

My girlfriend needed her computer to do remote work while everything was closed, so I opted to grab these out of storage so I had something to use

The Power Mac G4 is back in its hiding spot

The Mac Pro is a cat bed stand at the moment

980 watt psu was kinda pushing it on hot days - the heat output plus the power draw with everyone running AC. No bueno

[stoic beacon]

Seeing some of the old tech stuff here is fun. I've always wished I had a use for old laptops and desktops, but nothing I've ever done has been capable of running on hardware beyond 7 years or so

The exception being the NAS I'm throwing together

[polar fern]

Fortunately, I do have a ton of software for all of these different computers, still on the computer. I had a ThinkPad for a few years, but unfortunately I ended up forgetting my password and I lost a ton of stuff

Thinkpad has been disassembled

It’s hdd is now the thonkpad in external enclosure

[dull granite]

is there any hope for me to get a nvme drive with only a x1 PCIe 3.0 slot left

no m.2 :C

[fossil frost]

yeah, you can buy pci-e to m.2 cards, you wont get the full x4 bandwidth obviously, but the cards do exist

[manic turtle]

Thing of what I want to do is I want to help those who still want a 4090 but their scared of the issue plaguing the cards. It’s why I wanted to know if watercooling could negate the fire hazzard

[dull granite]

hmm

thats kinda sucks :C

[polar fern]

@dull granite absolutely

[dull granite]

so what should i except from a 1x lets say

SS570 from WD Blue?

They say it's 3500 gb/s

should i just divide it by four?

[polar fern]

You can get one of those PCIe adapter cards with an nvme mount point on it

[fossil frost]

that will give you a rough approximation yes

[manic turtle]

And if it does offer the suggestion to the team green asshats

[dull granite]

985 MB/s

:C

[polar fern]

That’s not that bad

[dull granite]

thats twice as fast as my SATA drive would do max

[manic turtle]

amd #1 nvidia SUCKS

[dull granite]

lmao get those fanboy multi billion megacorporations wars off #public-chat

[fossil frost]

its not just about the raw speed.... latency will be better over pci-e too. so it will "feel" better

[polar fern]

Company 1 good, company 2 bad.

Neither pay taxes & both do unethical stuff 🤷‍♂️

[dull granite]

if you want to be a fuckin clown you may as well head to #crypto-currency and try to promote your NFTs there

[stoic beacon]

Rename the channel Red vs Blue and see how many people are confused

[fossil frost]

neither are your friend, both do whatever it is to maximise returns for shareholders, which is what they are legally obliged to do, they only care about consumers to a point, and that point is "we need you to buy stuff from us, and we are going to make sure we extract every penny we can from you"

[dull granite]

big part of why i would need/want a NVMe is fast speed, i usually work with large files

[manic turtle]

Now I do have a pc with a team blue gpu and it is ok

[mild elm]

Why arc

[manic turtle]

Cheapest offered by yech dell

[polar fern]

Definitely all the same brand & model. Mhm.

[dull granite]

110°, 150W idle power usage, still paying 1000$

[fossil frost]

then on top of that, you want an SLC drive, rather than TLC or QLC... because on T/Q LC drives, your dynamic cache is gonna run out pretty quick, and you will be down to SATA speeds anyway

[manic turtle]

Yea 110 that tells the story

[polar fern]

110°C?!

[mild elm]

SLC drive?

[manic turtle]

The plugs are melting

[wanton glade]

Damn

Well that's 40 series for y

[dull granite]

SLC?

[fossil frost]

single level cell flash

[polar fern]

They must have a tiny nuclear reactor in there?

[manic turtle]

So yea the 4090 will benefit from watercooling

[full fossil]

Hey got a question

[wanton glade]

Dude, do not buy 4090

[polar fern]

More like molten sodium cooling

[wanton glade]

Shits got 12 pins dont risk it

[stoic beacon]

*Only buy 4090 if you are going to actually use it

[full fossil]

Should I run a NAS on a windows machine or a Linux machine

[manic turtle]

Left 4 dead 2

[stoic beacon]

Linux

[dull granite]

nah i aint paying that much, also its unavailable in any regional/local store lmao

[polar fern]

4090 is a PCIE space heater

[full fossil]

Why?

[dull granite]

if i had money for it i would go with better motherboard, not fukin H410 HDV

[manic turtle]

On ADVANCED

[sharp depot]

yo

[mild elm]

yo

[dull granite]

yo

[wanton glade]

yo

[manic turtle]

NO aim assist

[polar fern]

Breh

[wanton glade]

Man, don't buy 40 series. Unless the new 4070ti doesn't have 12pins, don't even think about buying it

[sharp depot]

can sm1 help me

[mild elm]

Can you stfu

[wanton glade]

That do be fax tho

[mild elm]

What is this misinformation

It’s not fax

[stoic beacon]

Spreading misinformation on LTT Discord always ends badly for the person doing it.

[mild elm]

Not even close to fax

[wanton glade]

Alr

[dull granite]

RTX 4090 is acutally not 'that' bad if you have power and money for it

[manic turtle]

Nick the 4090 was overheating

[stoic beacon]

Well, if you're going to run something other than Synology, it'll probably be something like TrueNAS, which as far as I know, is Linux based as well

[wanton glade]

But ever since they had this genius idea, gpus been melting

Just saying

[stoic beacon]

You are aware that that is user error, correct?...

[dull granite]

uhhh

[wanton glade]

Is it?

[mild elm]

User error

[dull granite]

not fully but its easy to make the error

[wanton glade]

Alr

[polar fern]

I have a solution

[full fossil]

Are there like tutorials from LTT on setting this up?
I was looking for some but did not find them

[wanton glade]

Lmfao

[dull granite]

oh yea, anthony hosted a one guide for this

[polar fern]

Just buy Summit from the DoE & use that to game on

[full fossil]

May i please have the link

[dull granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPmqbtKwtgw

[stoic beacon]

Anthony has some NAS stuff, but TrueNAS has amazing documentation. Just follow it. If you go Synology, it's braindead simple anyways

[dull granite]

no embed?

[stoic beacon]

Public chat

[wanton glade]

What's the performance difference between the 4090 and the 3090, in 3d modelling?

[stoic beacon]

None, since 3D modeling is almost exclusively CPU bound

Unless you are rendering while you're modeling, for whatever reason

[fossil frost]

almost fuck all, since i can put together some pretty complex models and my 6600xt keeps up just fine

and yes, as ethan said... RENDERING those models to quality renders... then yeah... a lot

[manic turtle]

All I’m saying though is if cards are getting hot and I have a friend who when mesh first hit secondlife it MELTED his gpu through his laptop nvidia gpu btw so the overheats do happen

[stoic beacon]

In a game engine or if you are rendering, the 4090 will utterly flatten the 3090, and it's not even close

[stoic beacon]

It melted his GPU right through his laptop, eh?

[manic turtle]

Yea

[full fossil]

Idk what are is the difference between them. Heard of the nas today I got an old pc so I thought I could run it on there

[polar fern]

I kinda want this

[fossil frost]

so, before throttling back, and thermal limits were a thing? because second life is old as fuck

[manic turtle]

His was one of the asus rog edition gaming laptops with either vista or 7 so around the time they were gearing up to bring mesh to secondlife

[fossil frost]

also, that was when laptop cases were mostly made from metal too... so it must have gotten pretty hot to melt metal

[polar fern]

Vista 🤦‍♂️

[manic turtle]

He might have had so idk he HATED vista

[quick aurora]

Hello everybody, did anyone see THIS one yet? https://civitai.com/models/3787/linus-sebastian

[fossil frost]

🐂💩

[manic turtle]

I forgot the model but it was back when asus was good

[polar fern]

A much better Vista

[dark trail]

how do ebay sellers expect me to react when they lower 10 dollars on a 80000$ item no one is gonna afford

[dull granite]

looks shit

sorry

it's AI generated, ofc it will look shit

[quick aurora]

not mine, just throwing it here

[dull granite]

for a second i was stared i could insult someone's artistic skills but i remembered that it's AI """"""art""""""

[wanton glade]

wow sick

[manic turtle]

I think his was an rog g55

[wanton glade]

might get one for work then (by the time I need one for work 50 series will be out)

[manic turtle]

But he had a yellow laptop.

I however had a different issue with my a4. Mine would get hot and the screen would randomly shut off

So yea do NOT get an Hp g5 amd laptop with windows 7 if you can help it. The a4 will overheat

[sonic barn]

Stable diffusion makes good stuff

[quick aurora]

This one is based on sd 1.5 but was probably trained on old yt thumbnails

[full fossil]

Is the samsung 990 pro worth it

[dull granite]

No

[full fossil]

uh msi wtf

https://twitter.com/msiusa/status/1610081857324068864?s=46&t=cjCTmtqDEo1lnM_YdFkKVA

[dull granite]

have you ever looked at fingers

[dull granite]

based MSI

[full fossil]

weird way to advertise electronic

[full fossil]

Msi is weird

[dull granite]

if it works then it aint stupid

[full fossil]

did not work on me

[mild elm]

I love msi

[dull granite]

probably if you're editing 4K video etc, otherwise no diffrence

[bold sleet]

Hi can i open a ticket with a moderator of this discord please

[full fossil]

lol

[mild elm]

No

[dull granite]

ping mods

[stoic beacon]

Pretty sure somebody just forgot to switch their accounts on twitter lol

[stoic beacon]

Depends on what the issue is

[full fossil]

No difference compared to ?

[mild elm]

A cheap drive

[dull granite]

PCIe 4.0 and (sometimes) 3.0 Drives

[bold sleet]

Its to report something

[full fossil]

just go with 980 990 is around the same

[mild elm]

But if you want fast and good kc3000

[stoic beacon]

Reply to the comment with an @ mod and they'll take care of it

[full fossil]

I have two 4tb sn850x's already

[mild elm]

Kc3000 is a very good value drive

[full fossil]

theres like such a small percentage in the difference for real world use

dont fall for buy latest product

[dull granite]

if you're buying a threadripper 5995x then you could get it ig

[full fossil]

You could just give direct answers too instead of adding comments that wasnt asked of

[dull granite]

but if you go with Ryzen 5 4100 4-core then it's redundant

[stoic beacon]

The answer is, don't get a 990 Pro

[dull granite]

if you dont need it then no reason to get it

all products have thier own targeted buyers

[fossil frost]

the only place ive noticed any real difference on gen3 vs gen4 nvme, is when im building AOSP, because it takes quite some time. and every bit of latency and speed and extra-ness that can be grabbed... is worth it... but.. playing games... day to day usage... my gen4 is no different to my gen3

[full fossil]

did this offend you my bad its just obvious to not early adopt but you do you

[full fossil]

No no im just irritated at something else and my irritation came out im sorry

all good honestly im just throwing out my personal belives as well some people just like bleeding edge and thats fine

[fossil frost]

the straight answer is... if you are doing something that needs a gen4 drive, you already know you are doing something that needs a gen4 drive and all the reasoning behind it... if you dont KNOW you need a gen4 drive, then gen3 will perform exactly the same

[full fossil]

I do but im not in the mood on to go into details as to why i need one. I just wanted to know if the 990 pro is worth it

[fossil frost]

the even straighter answer is... its your money... do whatever the fuck you want with it 🙂

[full fossil]

The best answer

[stoic beacon]

970 and 980 are perfectly fine for gaming, 990 is for if you need it or for fun

[full fossil]

What about sn850x

Is it good too

[fossil frost]

i bought one, and was sent the green, then sent it back for replacement, and then was sent the blue... and then sent it back for a refund because i was pissed off with amazon at that point.. and went and bought an MP600 instead

[full fossil]

LMAO just amazon things

These things happen when you have low pay workers that get treated like crap and are tired of dealing with the general publics crap and tired of dealing with the upper a holes at work too and just want a paycheck and stop caring about their work quality

Its almost like treating your employees well would benefit you in the long run

[fossil frost]

yep... but then how would you be able to buy a company that builds dick shaped rockets for you if you did that?

[full fossil]

You still could just not as soon as you wanted if you prioritized your funding more towards employee happiness

[fossil frost]

could easily do both... but... bezos wants more dick rockets

[full fossil]

Ive always wanted to be a manager so i can show them how a true manager should treat their employees but i always get pushed aside and some other dummy gets chosen that runs the business into the ground

Always cracks me up

[fossil frost]

its almost like bezos was the typical nerd, who found himself in the role-reversal situation where he became the one in power... and is now taking revenge on all the knuckle draggers like the people who bullied him in school

except its now spilled over and his revenge is being taken against everyone

and, bezos was so rich and was the 2nd richest person in the world... he got divorced, his wife took half his money... and he was STILL the 2nd richest person in the world

[full fossil]

Idk i wouldnt say that, i just think the whole general population these days are selfish in its entirety and it spreads like the plague in terms of selfishness

@fossil frost i think you are going over the top buddy

[fossil frost]

noope, all billionaires are evil and all billionaires should be taxed at 100% on anything over $1bn... creates a wealth ceiling, and also makes a lot of tax money for countries...

[full fossil]

I agree but i think you are going over the top

[fossil frost]

if you knew me, personally.. you would know that this is me being quite reserved and well behaved 🙂

[stoic beacon]

It's a delicate balance...outrageous amounts of money is a good motivator for new things being created/invented, but it hurts a lot of people. And nobody needs those outrageous amounts of money

I like the idea of people not getting over 1bn a year, but I certainly don't trust the government to do anything better with it

[full fossil]

Ethan has the right mindset

Theres always the healthy balance, when things get too one sided everything becomes messed up

[summer folio]

Guys guys

Remember when you had CD-Sony-Walkman?
Just walking around with a CD-player in your pocket,
Don't jump around tho or the CD will lag.

[fossil frost]

yeah, but its 1 sided in the wrong direction right now... the balance needs to be tipped back the other way a bit

[manic torrent]

doesn't matter. Still better than one person deciding

[indigo plume]

so gotta send this gpu back

since it was refunded cuz lost in shipping and some how showed up at my house a week later

when ups didnt even know where it was

[manic torrent]

This is an american cultural thing though

[indigo plume]

I think its more than america lol

[full fossil]

I live in america and i agree. I just think he went a bit extremist about it xD

[plain pecan]

hello 🫡

[full fossil]

My boss is a dick and he worries more about making money and his bonuses than his employee happiness

[indigo plume]

like in canada ppl get prety selfish

[coarse comet]

Capitalisms rough

[full fossil]

Ay bud lets go out for a rip ay?

[manic torrent]

Yes, it's capitalism.

[full fossil]

Mhm

I just wish we had a good overall balance of respect and honesty

[coarse comet]

It's all about that bag

[full fossil]

Not all this yelling and fighting and treating each other like poop

I hate it and im mentally tired

[coarse comet]

Why don't you train to work in an industry you like

[manic torrent]

it's alright to want less fighting, but "both sides are the problem" is garbage

[indigo plume]

I just think westernerns in general are more selfish

[full fossil]

Jobs are scarce here without driving 2+ hours one way each day

And with gas being $7 something a gallon i cant do that unless i get paid a lot per hour

[coarse comet]

Move then

[small zephyr]

lol there is an wireless charging kit for the NDSi

[full fossil]

Wanna pay me so i can afford to?

[small zephyr]

sadly not realy for the DSi xl tho

[full fossil]

I am 28 now ive been saving to do so but living paycheck to paycheck makes it impossible especially when i have to dip into my savings to get by sometimes

And then i have hobbies to enjoy to keep me from going insane and that costs money too

Its tough

[coarse comet]

Just having a job isn't good

[agile lake]

me in this chat like "you guys have savings?"

[coarse comet]

You need a side hustle

[coarse comet]

I put 100% of my earnings into them lol

[full fossil]

Meaning?

Im all ears for suggestions to benefit my every day life

[coarse comet]

Money not from your job

[fossil frost]

my savings are spread amongst various things... to avoid any one of them being shat away

[full fossil]

So onlybans?

[agile lake]

what he's saying is

[coarse comet]

Like starting a small buisness or doing crypto

[agile lake]

be dumb, that's what he said.

[manic torrent]

yeah but not the second one

[indigo plume]

crypto lmfao

[agile lake]

small business though is a good way if you're um

in trades / framing / electrician

[indigo plume]

and not everyone has the skills to start a small business

[agile lake]

father has been a carpenter for 40 years and has been working with my uncle / their friend and my brother under a contractors crew

[coarse comet]

You don't need skill to start a business

[agile lake]

and just said "why don't we just cut the middle man and start a business"

[manic torrent]

I had a side hustle selling car audio harnesses and kits, but it was more stress than it was worth

[agile lake]

in canada it doesn't cost very much to register / start up a business

it's having enough starting cash for the expenses / taxes for payroll. (ontop of first months payroll)

[coarse comet]

I fabricate custom car parts for those shitty riced up honda civics they sell like hell

Find something you know alot about and make something from it

[agile lake]

i'm good at spending cash

somehow i can't earn anything

[full fossil]

Wow ltt has been going for 10 years

[agile lake]

they're in strong as a company now, just need to build capital and not going all in on products >.>

[manic torrent]

I'm so good at this

[coarse comet]

I'm 15 so I'm putting it all into savings as I'm moving out at 16 I make about 5k a year and I've been saving for 2 so I have 10k saved

[agile lake]

oh boy, when you need to get a proper job through paying taxes.

government gonna be like 10-30% of dat is mine

[fossil frost]

ive literally been spending this evening, figuring out where all my money goes... i have about... £600/mo of disposable income on paper.... but about 3 days before the end of every month, i always look at my bank and say "where the fuck is my money"

turns out i just waste a bunch of money on shit i dont need

[coarse comet]

I wish my parents make alot of money and it's based off household so I pay 50% tax

[manic torrent]

ehhhh, "shit you don't need" is relative.

[stoic beacon]

YNAB is nice, is you want something to track it with and don't want to deal with Excel

[agile lake]

yep, the odd 10-15$ purchase every day or second day, can easily do that in fast food or errands.

[coarse comet]

My country's tax is insane I'm sick of it

[fossil frost]

exactly... thats what it mostly goes to "ill grab a coffee while im out"... even though im gonna be home in 2 minutes... and i could just make one when i got back

[manic torrent]

Or.... life is shit and having a coffee made for you makes you feel good

[agile lake]

problem is home made coffee is hard to enjoy when you get used

to a chain's coffee flavor

[manic torrent]

chain coffee? lol. I live in melbourne, EVERYWHERE sells proper coffee.

[indigo plume]

everyone does that

[agile lake]

tim hortons / mcdonalds / starbucks

[fossil frost]

im well aware of it, but i waste a LOT of money...

[agile lake]

the trio in canada

[indigo plume]

tim hortans is shit

[full fossil]

Is amazon always slow at shipping stuff out?

[manic torrent]

no

[coarse comet]

I get a vanilla latte or the iced version depending on the temperature outside from Starbucks

[indigo plume]

tim hortans hasnt been good in like 10 years

[agile lake]

@indigo plume agree, i think their coffee switched

[full fossil]

I ordered my gpu from them shipped and sold by amazon on the 31st and it hasnt shipped yet still

Its annoying

[indigo plume]

I dont even know why ppl still go

[agile lake]

breakfast

very limited shops like that in canada, feels like you always have more choices in the usa / europe

[fossil frost]

im subbed to prime, so... everything ships the same day and arrives the next day

[muted relic]

I've been subbed since the Impact Font thumbnail days, and I do not remember any of the videos covered in today's video

[coarse comet]

I'm with prime becuase of the location it still takes about a month

[agile lake]

amazon prime here only offers 2 day shipping, and only on certain items that are in the fulfillment centers.

[full fossil]

Im subbed to prime too and it said it has prime shipping and customer service told me "its still on time" and thats all

Im like it's been 3 days now and still hasnt sent out

[manic torrent]

I have ordered stuff and got it less than 12 hours later

[full fossil]

How is that "on time"

[coarse comet]

Amazon prime where I am emailed me personally and said I won't get the delivery benefits becuase of my location

[muted relic]

Ok nvm

I remember the Anti-RGB pc

[agile lake]

also you ordered right on the holidays

so shit gonna be hella late regardless of benefits

[coarse comet]

My shipping from amazon prime takes about 2 weeks to 3 months

[agile lake]

https://i.imgur.com/gLg84Rs.png

the math doesn't addup

[stoic beacon]

All their shipping is behind right now. The "2-day" is the default that will always be there, and the green text is what will actually happen

[agile lake]

huh, learned something today

[muted relic]

The gold xbox controller was not "A bad Idea"

I will defend that shit so hard. Yeah, it's non-functional, but damn is it amazing

[agile lake]

i can't believe he still has it lol, although i imagine it wouldn't really lose value.

only real cost was to make it / upkeep i'd think

[muted relic]

They also milked it had

[fossil frost]

the gold xbox controller was a stupid idea... but not a bad idea... and really... it should be on display... it should be visible in office shots

[muted relic]

I think the thing hd like 4-5 videos dedicated to it?

[agile lake]

he has it on display, but idr if it was on a set, or in his house now.

[muted relic]

I think that was the problem. LTT really needed to condense that series

[fossil frost]

they NEEDED to milk it... because gold is super expensive

[agile lake]

gold holds it's value lol

ultimately they could melt it down and sell it for nearly the inital cost in metal

but the cost to manufacture it ? lost

[fossil frost]

probably get more money back... gold has increased in value since then

but then wheres the fun in that...

[muted relic]

The Idea was amazing, but it was how much they ran it into the ground that ruined it

[agile lake]

i wonder though what his numbers are on the videos for it now

earnings i mean

[fossil frost]

yvonne is still married to him, so i imagine they at least made their money back and made it worth doing

[agile lake]

oh btw, if anyone uses corsair keyboards with icue, their mural stuff is kind of neat.

can mirror images / desktop on the rgb

[fossil frost]

i bought my logitech g613 specifically because it DOESNT have RGB 🙂

[agile lake]

i can turn it off :c

[fossil frost]

its also a full sized keyboard, with the correct uk layout, and has mechanical key switches

[agile lake]

although for mouse, g604 is my personal favorite for mmos.

[fossil frost]

i have huge hands... so your small keyboards and slim keys... fuck that...

[full fossil]

I stopped buying corsair products. Last keyboard i got from them had an issue where it wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwould do that and have a mind of its own at random occasions and it wwwwwwwas aaaaaannoying during games

[agile lake]

dirty contacts in the keys

[full fossil]

Brand new keyboards

[agile lake]

it's almost impossible to properly clean

[full fossil]

I thought the same so i cleaned them but it happened to all three keyboards even warranty replacement ones

Right out the box theyd do it

[agile lake]

hm

[full fossil]

You can google it too its a very common issue with corsair keyboards

[agile lake]

my corsair k70 is the rapidfire one

with the silvers, going on 5 years now

[full fossil]

Theres no fix other than to not buy their stuff

[spare narwhal]

Will a i7 12700f be able to fully utilise the 3080 eg the 3080 being at 100%

[full fossil]

It started on 2019 production stuff

And hasnt been fixed as of yet

[agile lake]

oh in that case

ye, my next keyboard is likely g915

the bluetooth feature is very nice for tv

[full fossil]

Im a big leopold fan

[stoic beacon]

The G915 is really nice. It's not the keyboard I have personally, but I've used one, and it was exceptional

No keybed = easy to clean as well

[agile lake]

i just don't like the issues with flex

not common

but has happened to some, like i'm curious to know how much it can tolerate.

[full fossil]

Wdym flex

Like flex in the keyboard?

[agile lake]

skinny board with aluminum frame, you can put a bend in it over time

but i would think not so much in colder rooms

like in warmer climates, 30+

[stoic beacon]

My GMMK hasn't run into that so far, and I've put a lot of hours on it

[agile lake]

i've yet to own it and run it so yeah, i can't say for sure :p

just demos in bestbuy's / etc have almost all been bent

[hearty spear]

you realize that for metal the difference between 10c and 40c is absolutely nothing, right?

[stoic beacon]

Maybe his local Best Buy is 400

[agile lake]

you don't know about how the strength breaks down as it gets warmer?

especially for thinner aluminum

[hearty spear]

sure it does, but not at 40c

[agile lake]

i'm saying deck flex is likely more to stay

[hearty spear]

the melting point of aluminum is over 650c. 40c ain't shit.

[agile lake]

-shrugs- maybe every demo unit was abused the same way

idk

[hearty spear]

keyboard usage / abuse is so much more likely to be a cause of deck flex than 40c ever will be