public-chat

[lyric plinth]

Yes

[raw plover]

it should be

[graceful burrow]

Yeah they're m2 screws kek

[raw plover]

M2 or M3

[full fossil]

Alright I'll just order some with it then

It's m2

[lyric plinth]

My p5 plus came with one

[cerulean canopy]

yea they are

btw if you dont have a standoff you also need that

[ripe patrol]

gah, amazon shipping is killing me today... Why sending the 1 9$ item while the other 2 are sitting in the same warehouse but those aren't coming till thursday/friday?

[lyric plinth]

Didn't need it because my motherboard has the fancy plastic clips

[full fossil]

The drive that was in this thing from it's previous owner was running a single 3TB wd red NAS drive lol

Like for windows and everything

So I'm trying to upgrade it as best I can

[raw plover]

oof

[full fossil]

UwU

I was genuinely surprised to see it even had m2 support

It's an Asus z170 board

[lyric plinth]

That was around the time they became a thing

[full fossil]

What's top speed on gen 3? Like 3500 read or so?

I don't want to buy him a crap drive

Also, is crucial reliable? I usually only buy WD but crucial has a really good deal on one from Amazon

[lyric plinth]

My p5 plus is pretty good

It go fast

It's gen 4 though and you ain't getting that on a z170

[full fossil]

There's a P3 500GB for 35 bucks on Amazon (it's only for his OS)

3500mb/s

[lyric plinth]

You really don't need a high end gen 3 drive

[full fossil]

Almost sounds too good to be true

[lyric plinth]

The mp33 1tb is 50

[ripe patrol]

those samsung 970's on amazon are pretty well loved too

[lyric plinth]

Samsung drives are expensive

[full fossil]

Well that board only has one m2 slot so I was gonna get him a small one to run the OS and then a SATA for his games and stuff

[lyric plinth]

They're great if they have a good sale

[lyric plinth]

You don't need to split drives

[ripe patrol]

last week they were having good sales 🙂

[full fossil]

Don't need to sure but it helps

[lyric plinth]

980 pro 1tb was 100 two weeks ago

[ripe patrol]

I was crying that the wd black 2tb was half off last week... after I literally bought a 1tb at christmas

[full fossil]

I was just gonna get him a small m2 for the OS and then a 1-2 TB SATA for games

I'm trying not to put too much money into it, just needs to last him another year or so until his next build

[lyric plinth]

Sata drives cost more than nvme drives now

[full fossil]

Really? That's wild

[lyric plinth]

You can get a 2tb nvme cheaper than a 2tb SATA drive

[full fossil]

I'd get him 2 m2s but it only has the one slot

Maybe I will just get one big one idk

[lyric plinth]

Then get one 2tb m.2

[full fossil]

He was running on a single HDD before this so anything really is an improvement

[ripe patrol]

what was the strange "offbrand" ltt put in a few pc's last summer?

[graceful burrow]

?

[jaunty compass]

What are you talking about?

[ripe patrol]

he did a pc build in the summer and used some brand I don't remember saying they were cheap / good; used it on a few builds...

[lyric plinth]

Off brand what

[ripe patrol]

nvme ssd

[frosty basin]

sabrent?

[ripe patrol]

I don't remember; it wasn't one familiar to me so I don't think it's sabrent... Considered going back to look once - then saw how many videos that was lol

[frosty basin]

lmao fair

[jaunty compass]

You talking the Intel SSD or like a WD green?

The fatty dove?

[frosty basin]

fattydove lmao

[glad merlin]

why is it so tough to find a 4090 msi

[wanton glade]

Skull issue

[jaunty compass]

Did you mean Adata?

[glad merlin]

everyone is selling it for like 30k

jeez

[wanton glade]

Because its one of the only nice designs 💀

[jaunty compass]

@ripe patrol are you talking adata?

[wanton glade]

Bro just look at the asus rog one, shit looks like 🧱

[glad merlin]

the pny xlr8 4090 is trash

[wanton glade]

Is it tho

[ripe patrol]

dont think so - adata i'd have remembered; just remember the aside sadly.

[glad merlin]

preform worse than the reg 4090 fe

[wanton glade]

Damn

[jaunty compass]

What do you remember about it?

[wanton glade]

Well I say, don't buy 40 series it's ewaste, buy a 7900xtx whenever you can

[glad merlin]

bottomed out power limit

[ripe patrol]

just something about it "before you go off about it it's cheap, it's reliable and its well tested"

[glad merlin]

450w limit

the velocity software for it is terrible

been using msi instead its wayy better

velcoity doesnt even start with windows

[wanton glade]

Bruh

Tbh tho, no one needs a 4090

[glad merlin]

have to open app every time to apply ocs and cooling

[wanton glade]

Except for work

[glad merlin]

i need 1 red dead aint ez to run on max settings

[wanton glade]

Just get a 3080, or a 7900xtx, good value

[glad merlin]

ew

no thanks the 30 fps haha

[ripe patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556206492710338560/1059497143364243486/image.png

[glad merlin]

i also have a 32:9 so its take more power to run tho

[dusty rune]

GAMING.

[ripe patrol]

unless you have that 57" lmao

[glad merlin]

i have a 49'

[wanton glade]

Oh shit I just remembered that stuff exists, and people like it

[glad merlin]

3840x1080

[wanton glade]

BRO, IS IT NOT ENOUGH ? to play in 1440p/4k in ultra? DO YOU NEED MORR ?

Damn

[glad merlin]

nope

[jaunty compass]

I game at 1440p on a 6600 XT and it runs fine lol

Maybe I'm just built different but these super high end GPUs feel like a waste when in like a year there will be an even faster GPU

[ripe patrol]

7680x2160... lol

[dusty rune]

idle power draw of a 7900xtx on an ultrawide is crazy

[glad merlin]

4090 is okay good price/pref

anything under is not worth

[wanton glade]

Bro ultrawide gaming is mid asf, fight me

[dusty rune]

immersive

[jaunty compass]

4090 is the only Ada Lovelace card with good price/perf

[dusty rune]

and crazy efficient as well

[jaunty compass]

Not great mind you, but it's not totally outlandish

[wanton glade]

Who tf cares bro, at this point just get an oculus

[sharp bobcat]

I have returned

[jaunty compass]

Buy a pimax headset for the dummy wide fov

[dusty rune]

some people dont like wearing heavy goggles on their head for hours at a time

[wanton glade]

Mf be paying 10 grands for gaming 💀 way to go damn

[wanton glade]

That do be fax

Meh whatever, let's not fight over this

[jaunty compass]

My whole gaming setup including VR headset is less than the cost of a 4090

And my setup isn't ultra budget

[dusty rune]

yeah but is it as huge of a flex and performance as a 4090

[wanton glade]

My mind won't change tho, spending 10 grands on gaming is mid

[jaunty compass]

If you're flexing with a graphics card, get a life tbh

[wanton glade]

Fr bruh

[dusty rune]

gotta get the e-hoes

[wanton glade]

As soon as you buy them nitro, you gonna get that big L shoved down your ass

[jaunty compass]

That flex you spent $1600 or $2000 will be last gen tech and selling on eBay for like half of the price in like a year or so

[wanton glade]

And then 50 series release

💀

[frosty basin]

some games i play 1440p fine with my 6600 but yea

[wanton glade]

Nah man for real, don't buy 40 series

[sharp bobcat]

me watching this chat with 2GB GD5 quadro mobile M600M

[wanton glade]

If the mfs even cheaped out on the power connectors, it's not worth it 🇱

[jaunty compass]

Ultra top end stuff is almost always a waste of money honestly unless you need it for like 3d modelling or something

[winter spindle]

My friend uses blender on a 5500u

[jaunty compass]

Like professionally

[wanton glade]

Unfortunately, I do... Still won't buy a 40 series tho, its trash

[winter spindle]

Oh yeah ofc

[wanton glade]

Bro I use blender on a 960

[frosty basin]

i used to use blender on a 1050 2gb 😭

[jaunty compass]

40 series is pretty trash, yeah

[wanton glade]

Actually it's always better than a laptop igpu

[winter spindle]

You still on a 960? Get a 6600

[wanton glade]

I can't

[winter spindle]

5500u is like a 1050

[wanton glade]

My pc can't upgrade

[winter spindle]

?

[wanton glade]

1050 vs 960 ?

[dense coral]

How

[wanton glade]

Look up "asus rog g20"

💀

[frosty basin]

bruh

[wanton glade]

The gpu is a 90°

[winter spindle]

Oh bruh

Goofy ahh pc

[wanton glade]

Ong

It's good tho, I'm grateful, its always better than my celeron n2350

4gb ram

[dense coral]

Zamn an n2350

[sharp bobcat]

you thought rendering on blender with 1050 2gb or 5500u (I assume it's ryzen and not that intel core i5 mobile) is bad
I was at my campus cafe aight, and I saw someone using an AMD E2 7110 + single 4GB RAM laptop for UE4 editor

[winter spindle]

It’s ryzen

[wanton glade]

Oh damn

[winter spindle]

Oh hell naw

[sharp bobcat]

AMD E2

[jaunty compass]

What? You can upgrade with that

[wanton glade]

Man I'm looking forward to get a new pc

[sharp bobcat]

and he used it for UE4 editor
let that sink in

[jaunty compass]

Looking at it right now you could definitely do it with a smaller 6600 or something

[winter spindle]

I use a Lenovo legion 5

[wanton glade]

But I need to work hard at high school damnit

Fuck high school, we going back again tomorrow, goddamnit

[winter spindle]

Yeah bruh I hate school

[sharp bobcat]

I even almost got to the point where I really want to let him use my laptop while I'm looking for food

[wanton glade]

4 months left, and I'm out of this shit

[winter spindle]

Is a 6650xt a lot better than a 3060 mobile

[wanton glade]

Course it is

[sharp bobcat]

because holy shit imagine using a failed cpu with failed architecture to use UE4 editor

[jaunty compass]

Yeah

[winter spindle]

Like a lot a lot

[wanton glade]

[jaunty compass]

6650 XT and 6600 XT are barely different though lol

[wanton glade]

Idk bruh, most likely. Mobile gpu = -30% perf

[jaunty compass]

I'm pretty sure it was single digit performance improvement

[winter spindle]

Because I want to build a pc because I never had a desktop, but is it worth $1000

[jaunty compass]

What?

[wanton glade]

Wut wut

[jaunty compass]

Okay here's a tip, get a used GPU

[wanton glade]

Yeah do that

[winter spindle]

I meant The pc

Not the gpu alone

[wanton glade]

Go to ebay or Newegg, look for a 6800xt they be cheap af

[jaunty compass]

A 6600 XT is like $230 on eBay

[winter spindle]

Yeah ok

[wanton glade]

Specs ?

[keen charm]

Any chance LTT will check out the Nokia Streaming Box 8000 or 8010?

[winter spindle]

I want to build 12400f, 6650xt, and 16gb

Will it be that much better than 3060 5800h laptop

[jaunty compass]

The 5800h has 8 cores

[wanton glade]

Yeah I think

[sharp bobcat]

hmmm
would you pick a 5700XT second hand today if you were in a really tight budget

[wanton glade]

Actually idk

[jaunty compass]

5700 XT? Yeah. They're a really good value rn

[winter spindle]

Is it better than 12400f

[wanton glade]

Always better than a 960, smash

[jaunty compass]

A 5700 XT is like $160 on eBay rn and it performs almost the same as a 6600 XT

[wanton glade]

Siiiick

[jaunty compass]

So if I were on a tight budget I would absolutely pick one up

[wanton glade]

Too bad I'm better off with a 3060

[jaunty compass]

It's still pretty good for 1440p

[sharp bobcat]

uhhhh
are you recommending laptop

[jaunty compass]

No

[sharp bobcat]

because 5800h

[winter spindle]

So would it make sense to build that pc if I already have the laptop

6650xt and 12400f vs 5800h and 3060

[jaunty compass]

I'm saying that the 12400f only has six but the 5800h has eight cores, they already have the laptop; I'm recommending they choose a different hardware config

Because while games will be faster if they go with the 12400f, tasks that utilize a bunch of cores might run worse

[sharp bobcat]

ah
what about 13500 then

[winter spindle]

That exists

[sharp bobcat]

assuming you live in region where it's already available

[jaunty compass]

So, because of power limits things will probably run better on the 12400f anyway even in multicore workloads

[winter spindle]

I live in US

[jaunty compass]

Because laptop CPUs throttle clock speeds a ton when you use a bunch of cores

That's how they get such high boost clocks for single and dual core workloads

And don't explode when you use more cores

[sharp bobcat]

we have it here in Indonesia. It even already have short review from one OCer here

for some reason Intel released non K CPUs in Asia first idk why

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cmh6D1qSVPh/ no nitro and no embed

[jaunty compass]

the 5700 xt is a great used option rn, on the used market it has a super competitive price

if i were upgrading from like a 1060 or 1650 or something i'd go with one 100%

it doesn't have raytracing support, but i have literally never turned RT on in any game

It's a feature I couldn't care less about at all

[sharp bobcat]

I mean you can just have a game that somehow supports RT for every gpu

quake for example
or minecraft

like, java ones, not bedrock version

[jaunty compass]

it's a feature I just don't give a shit about

I never turn it on even though my system can do it

[sharp bobcat]

I'm turning it on for curiosity sake sometimes

[jaunty compass]

it's like motion blur, that bitch stays off

[sharp bobcat]

well at least there might be a reason you'd want it enabled

but yea fuck motion blur it can go to hell

[fossil frost]

my 10 year old has never watched an LTT video, and hes had his FIRST pc and first pc gaming experience at xmas, and even he is saying "how do i turn off motion blur, motion blur sucks" 😄

[sharp bobcat]

W kid

yoooooooo finally linus have a video about that GTX 460

[jaunty compass]

motion blur is universally bad

i have a 144hz monitor, I don't want blur

why are you trying to make my games look worse

[keen charm]

Why does motion blur even exist? Everyone just turn it off 🤔

[muted blade]

fr

[winter spindle]

Halo infinite ran shit

But then I switched fps from 165 to 82

And it’s good 👍

[muted blade]

maybe vsync isnt on, if it is then its just messed up

[winter spindle]

Idk

I vsync and no vsync and it was the same

[muted blade]

oh then its just messed up

[jaunty compass]

if you're running at low framerates it can help the game look smoother

but only at low framerates like 30 fps

[quartz fable]

Linus Did This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzkl-KfKxwU

I tried 20 Gamer drinks, here are the best… and the worst

[ornate inlet]

Guys maybe it s me not using youtube desktop for a while, but what happened to the subscription page? i just want to see my channel subscriptions but i cant, yt is just bombarding me with new channels to subscribe to, how do i set it the old way?

[fossil frost]

thats just youtube now, it doesnt give a shit what you have already sub-ed to.. they want you to sub to new stuff

[ornate inlet]

i can still do it on mobile though

[fossil frost]

if i watch a single video outside of my normal viewing habbits... i get bombed with 100s of different channels on that subject, and it completely drowns out any new videos from any channels ive subscribed to

[ornate inlet]

yes but the thing is i literally cannot see the list of the channels im subscripted to, how long has been like this?

[winter spindle]

It should be on the side

[nova hamlet]

Question, does LTT still have the water cooled red camera?

[ripe patrol]

at 10 layers of tape on the xmas tree box - is it time to update? lmao

[jaunty compass]

I assume so

[vapid smelt]

would be hard to sell a water cooled red cam

[nova hamlet]

they said in a wan a while ago what cameras they had and reds weren't included

[manic torrent]

I'm currently using one 27" monitor... it's terrible! how do people live like this

[leaden gale]

I think I know which WAN show you're talking about, and they do have at least a couple of RED cameras on hand, but I don't think they're actively using them anymore

[finite cloud]

yeah i dont know..i get questioned for using 2 but having one sucks

[polar steeple]

Counterpoint...I have a 32" and a 27" and I almost NEVER use the 27 for anything

[manic torrent]

I'm in the middle of moving my entire setup around, and I'm coming from 48,24,32,27

[polar steeple]

Yeah see I'd be struggling to find anything for the other 3 monitors..I don't multitask that hard I guess

[manic torrent]

I'm currently on discord, reading an article, watching a video, and I still want space to see my email

[vapid smelt]

everyone should have a minimum of 2 monitors

[polar steeple]

FancyZones is your friend bob

[manic torrent]

no, it isn't 🙂

moving my 48"oled from where it currently is, is my friend

[finite cloud]

having more than 1 allows me to work easier, manager my windows easier, and have multiple apps on my screen at once

[vapid smelt]

hell my 50 year old parents have a dual monitor setup 😛

[polar steeple]

FancyZones is even more your friend with the 48

[manic torrent]

soooo it does what I can do already with displayfusion?

[vapid smelt]

we should pas a world wide law banning plastic clips for car body panels

[manic torrent]

plastic clips for body panels are both light, and designed to break.

[polar steeple]

I've only ever heard of displayfusion in reference to stretching one output over multiple displays which is not what fancyzones does, no

Also fancyzones is free

[manic torrent]

displayfusion has many things it can do - I have it logged in to digitalblasphemy and it rotates my wallpaper from any in DB every hour

[vapid smelt]

my pops car bumper hit a small snow bank, he was able to pop the plastic dent back out with a heat gun but the shitty clips broke off so i used the right fucking body panel tool on the other side to take the clips out to see what ones we needed and it broke the clip

[polar steeple]

FancyZones is pretty much exactly what it says it is-it allows you to designate virtual zones of available screen space so that you can snap windows to each zone

[manic torrent]

yeah the clips are cheap and easily available.

[polar steeple]

So let's say you wanted to split the 48 into 4 zones and the 27 into 2, you can do that. And you can create unlimited zone layouts and change them on the fly

[vapid smelt]

yeah i have a small case of them, we where able to find one that works

[full fossil]

Is a 3080 still a good card? I'm looking to upgrade from a 2060 build and this Starforge prebuilt looks pretty good

[polar steeple]

Lol yeah, the 3080 is still a good card

I mean what resolution and frame rate are you shooting for

[opal socket]

Yes, a 3080 is still a good graphics card. It is a powerful card that can handle most modern games at high settings. If you are looking to upgrade from a 2060, the 3080 will be a significant improvement.

[vapid smelt]

the dick and ball company ?

[full fossil]

1080p but with a 360hz monitor

[manic torrent]

I have a 3080ti and I'm super happy

[full fossil]

Will be streaming on it too with NVENC

[full fossil]

Yes lol

[leaden gale]

I remember comparing their pricing to the closest to exact components on retail and it was pretty damn close

[polar steeple]

Yeah you'll rip through 1080p

[full fossil]

I'm not sure I can build this for cheaper tbh

https://starforgesystems.com/products/horizon-ii-elite-pc

Especially when you factor in the warranty and all the cabling is done for me

And it's tested before shipping

[vapid smelt]

every pc part has a warranty

[full fossil]

Like they have damn good pricing compared to most

[polar steeple]

If you play esports, which I assume because of the 360hz monitor, you'll be bumping up against the monitors refresh rate

[full fossil]

Correct but it's way easier to deal with warranties and tech support from a single entity

[opal socket]

You are correct that it can be easier to deal with warranties and tech support from a single entity. However, building your own PC can also be a rewarding experience, and it allows you to tailor the components to your specific needs and budget. It's important to weigh the pros and cons and decide what is best for you.

[full fossil]

I can already get 360 sometimes on OW at low settings but it dips in big fights

[full fossil]

I've already built two I'm kinda over it

[polar steeple]

Warranties maybe but I wouldn't count on a system integrator for tech support

[full fossil]

The "rewarding experience" is more of a headache to me these days, I've already had the experience and now I just want it to turn on be ready to go

I especially do not want to deal with cable management anymore

[polar steeple]

Also if I had to guess if you have to warranty one part in a pre built they're going to want you to ship the entire thing back

[opal socket]

If you've already built two PCs and you're "kinda over it," then perhaps purchasing a prebuilt PC is the better option for you. Prebuilt PCs can be a convenient and hassle-free choice for those who don't want to spend the time and effort on building their own. It's important to consider your priorities and decide what is best for you.

[vapid smelt]

holy fuck they use the worst ram possible

[full fossil]

How so

[polar steeple]

Jesus christ that PC is an abomination

[full fossil]

I feel like the difference between 5200 and 6000 cannot be noticeable

Well how, what's wrong with it

[polar steeple]

Decorative front panel in front of your main intake

[vapid smelt]

cl40 first word latency of 15.358ns , 5600 cl 30 is not much more and has a first word latency of 10.714ns

[polar steeple]

Also who makes the RAM lol

They give brands for everything except the RAM

Also they love them some deep cool. I don't have any particular experience with deep cool but if you copied that build 1:1 you could certainly build it cheaper

That's not a $2300 unit lol

[full fossil]

I see

Well the problem seems to be the 30 series GPU, since they aren't actively being made apparently the prices are bad

I can't find anything remotely close to MSRP

At least thats what someone in the NVIDIA server told me

[lilac sage]

3060ti is 410USD in the US

msrp was 400

[polar steeple]

Where lol

[full fossil]

I'm not getting a 3060 ti though, the 3080/3090 is my game, otherwise I'm getting a 40 series

[lilac sage]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9m3gXL/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-gaming-twin-edge-oc-video-card-zt-a30610h-10mlhr

[full fossil]

Jumping from a 2060 to 3060/ti would be dumb

[lilac sage]

isnt the 3090 consistently below msrp?

[winter spindle]

Everywhere

[vapid smelt]

and the gen 4 nvme has gen 3 speeds fo 3500/3000

[lilac sage]

lmao guess not anymore

[winter spindle]

Newegg, micro center, etc

[lilac sage]

remember when 1200 USD 3090s were commonplace

[polar steeple]

You mean one ZOTAC card on Newegg? Because it's absolutely not $410 "everywhere"

[polar steeple]

I'm not trying to be rude here but it seems like you're looking for an excuse to set money on fire

[full fossil]

How so

[opal socket]

I gotta admit, this 2,300$ pc doesnt look worth it

[winter spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/yaburnt-joker-burn-burnward-calltheburnunit-gif-5274995

Embed fail

[polar steeple]

You have a 360hz monitor and you admit you approach that refresh rate you want to upgrade your GPU because of "dips"

You don't need a 3080 and you certainly don't need 40 series, you're gonna spend more on the card and spend more on electricity to generate frames you aren't using

[full fossil]

I need something that can consistently run 240-360hz at 1080p on eSports titles while streaming on OBS, and play/stream other games at max settings at like at least 144

[full fossil]

Not necessarily, I'm upgrading the monitor in the near future and it'll be used for VR as well

I don't exclusively play eSports titles

Will be upgrading to an ultra wide fairly soon and using it for triple A stuff as well

[lilac sage]

get a 5900X and cpu encode

[winter spindle]

Jesus

[full fossil]

I'm not using AMD

I will be dead in the ground before I put anything from amd in my rig

[lilac sage]

get a 12600K and cpu encode lmao

[polar steeple]

You're the one that said your target resolution was 1080 and your FPS at 240...your 2060 can do that lol

[lilac sage]

correct

[full fossil]

It clearly cannot, not on the stuff I'm playing

[lilac sage]

esports

LoL Valo CSGO Overwatch typically are those along with apex and fortnite

[full fossil]

I have overwatch cranked all the way down and dip well below 240 in fights

[polar steeple]

If you wanted an upgrade path a 3060ti/3070/3070ti would be more than enough

[full fossil]

Apex is even more demanding than OW

[lilac sage]

ye I hit 90FPS with a 1650

[polar steeple]

You said this

[lilac sage]

in apex

[full fossil]

Right, I need something that DOES NOT DIP

[polar steeple]

You're not dipping from 300+ to below 240

[full fossil]

Otherwise what's the point, only playing in the training range?

[lilac sage]

just buy a used 3080 or something

[full fossil]

I promise you that I am

[polar steeple]

Bruh moment

[full fossil]

Idk man do you use my PC?

[polar steeple]

Do you think you have the only PC or something

[glad meteor]

Hello, im looking to buy a pre built pc for around 1300 dollars. Any suggestions?

[lilac sage]

ABS, Skytech, or Starforge should have good pricing

[full fossil]

No but I ask for help in servers and people talk to me like I'm a moron or they don't believe me

[lilac sage]

well if you want some good advice

[polar steeple]

I dunno why you asked for help either when you're going to disagree with the options presented to you

[lilac sage]

buy a 3080 stick the 2060 in the 3080 box. return it.

on amazon of course

[full fossil]

I'm disagreeing because YOU are telling ME what frames I'm getting

Like what?

[novel geyser]

That’s fraud

[glad meteor]

Do you think this is a good deal? Or could I find something better for the price range? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-12700f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-1tb-hdd-500gb-ssd-black/6500511.p?skuId=6500511&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=276&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA76-dBhByEiwAA0_s9d8lduaTcGgxx14nODm5g4-9y5cN3xS62WLJh31CF_tBzPaKJlPayxoCTRMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[full fossil]

Not everybody is running the same programs and stuff

[polar steeple]

Because dips of over 120fps are unbelievable and wouldn't have anything to do with your GPU

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FNw778 $88 more for a 4080 with better parts such as , higher end ram,ssd and case

[full fossil]

Hey something actually helpful

Thanks

[polar steeple]

Like I said, bro just looking for an excuse to set money on fire lol

[lilac sage]

ill check but that looks okay o nthe surface

[polar steeple]

You'd be better served buying an Intel NUC to use as a second streaming PC. You'd spend less money and get the same result

Or hell

[vapid smelt]

o and the 4080 is in stock too

[lilac sage]

ye Id say thats a good deal prebuilt wise

[polar steeple]

Just run an Intel gpu as a second gpu for hardware encoding

[full fossil]

Intel GPU lol

[glad meteor]

do you think there are any better options for a lower prcie with similar specs?

im looking at this one as well https://skytechgaming.com/product/0320-11700f-3060ti-16g/

[polar steeple]

I mean. What you're looking to do is offload encoding from your GPU to something else

[lilac sage]

https://www.newegg.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gm60900/p/N82E16883230646R?Description=Prebuilt 3060ti&cm_re=Prebuilt_3060ti-_-83-230-646R-_-Product this one maybe

but its open box

[full fossil]

Well yeah that's why I'm going to continue using this PC with a capture card

[lilac sage]

offload the gpu onto the cpu

[full fossil]

Like I said I don't only play eSports titles. I'm trying to get a relatively future proof build that can run higher res stuff when I buy a new monitor

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ws7vtn $2018 for a 7900xt still blows the 3080 out of the water even in ray tracing

[full fossil]

I'm not using 1080 forever

Getting a Neo G9 or something comparable, a 3060 ain't driving that lmao

[polar steeple]

I have a feeling that your desires and "future proof" are incompatible concepts

[full fossil]

Ok guy

I appreciate the people actually sending me builds tho

[lilac sage]

future proofing is a fallacy. if ur doing the same esports i can see that but we're already seeing warzone 2 basically hit 3080s and 3090s pretty hard

[polar steeple]

Just trying to save your parents some money bro

[lilac sage]

lol

I do that too

[full fossil]

I live alone with a full time job but aight

I say relatively future proof because my last build was bottom line as far as that series GPU goes

[lilac sage]

oh if ur doing a new PC build cant you use ur old pc just for streaming?

[full fossil]

That's exactly what I'm doing yes

I just need something for the new one that can run what I need to run and that's why I came here for help

[kindred coral]

Okay guys I committed hell of crime... I did build whole iPhone from a begining.

Ik nobody cares but for me... It's totally amazing thing.

I mean putting the whole phone together from components you buy... It's kinda hard but yeah

[full fossil]

But I'm getting like really snarky shit from some people for no reason lol

People telling ME what my current PC does or doesn't do

[lilac sage]

Im guessing battery, screen, chassis, logic board?

[polar steeple]

Bro get out of your feelings lol

[lilac sage]

your current PC cant run cyberpunk 4k 120FPS

[vapid smelt]

fx 8350 was a future proof cpu "8core" cpu in 2012! hell most gamers still only have 6 cores in 2023!

[lilac sage]

high settings

[polar steeple]

You asked for opinions you're going to get a variety of them including those you don't like

[full fossil]

Get out of a 4th floor window

[jaunty compass]

8 "core"

[lilac sage]

"8 core" works too

[jaunty compass]

(it wasn't actually 8 core)

[polar steeple]

This is how I know your parents pay for your shit lol

Bro got that full on teenage angst

[jaunty compass]

it was basically a quad core in a trenchcoat

[lilac sage]

no they just play esports that isnt an issue of parentage

[full fossil]

Lol yeah they def do

[kindred coral]

You need also speakers, vibrator thingie, home button, buttons itself cameras...

[vapid smelt]

indeed thats why i did "8core"

[manic torrent]

logic board? spot the apple user

[full fossil]

That’s impressive bro! Well done

[kindred coral]

I'm missing few parts still tho... But it's working and I'm happy most of my stuff work

[lilac sage]

k, thought the buttons would come with the chassis but ye i forgot about the speakers. as for the home button im guessing its an iphone 8 or less

[kindred coral]

Thank you!

[polar steeple]

He just said he built an iPhone lll

[jaunty compass]

the idea of futureproofing is kinda dumb

PCs are not the kind of thing that you can futureproof

[kindred coral]

More like apple builder... I tried to build my own iphone SE 2020

[jaunty compass]

because instruction sets lose support and new apis get adopted

[full fossil]

I replaced the battery of an iPhone 4 and lost nearly all screws

[eager venture]

Can I plug a pc to a laptop display?

[full fossil]

Yeah but the idea is to have it last longer than 4 years

[lilac sage]

nope

[full fossil]

That's why I'm spending more.money this time

[manic torrent]

Simple answer: no. Long answer: it's possible if you remove it and get a driver and blah blah blah.

[full fossil]

You can with janky ribbon cables

[lilac sage]

yes thats true

but no HDMI magic

[full fossil]

It’s not possible to the sane person

[manic torrent]

that's... not how computers work. 5 years is about when it's done

[kindred coral]

SE 2020, sadly buttons come but not the cable and buttons like buttons itself... I could not make them work and I've been raging about them a lot, I'll find my way tho

[full fossil]

Not really lol

[manic torrent]

yes, really

[full fossil]

My computer lasted 6 months mm

[kindred coral]

I'm not that good

[lilac sage]

Future proofing is about ur standards not the parts you get imo

[manic torrent]

I mean, I've worked in the industry for 25 years

[full fossil]

If I had bought a 3080/3090 in 2019 when I built this I would not be having a discussion about upgrading right now

[kindred coral]

Ouch, not losing them is hard tho

[lilac sage]

well the 3090 came out in 2020

so you def. wouldnt

[polar steeple]

Don't bother with him Bob he's just soliciting bids on how to swipe Dads credit card

[manic torrent]

.... 2019? pre-pandemic, pre-release of 30 series?

[full fossil]

Whatever it was at the time, 2080 idk

[lilac sage]

2080ti

[full fossil]

Try jailbreaking it if it has a lower chip than iPhone XR - I can’t remember the number

[lilac sage]

equivalent to a 3070

so ye you would prob still be having the convo

[full fossil]

Sure whatever, my point is if I had bought a higher end 20 series or something I'd be going longer without needing anything

[vapid smelt]

i would rather buy a i5/r5 for $300 than a R7/9 for $500+ for the sake of future proofing

[manic torrent]

... I bought a 3080ti this year for $500 USD. I sold my 3070 EKWB card for $300 USD (that I paid $1100USD for)

[eager venture]

What?

[kindred coral]

Why jailbreak if I can log in? I mean if I jailbreak I could lose some features

[manic torrent]

wayyyyy better value than buying a new 3080

[polar steeple]

Not really, you'd still be complaining about frame drops below 300fps

[lilac sage]

cydia sucks so much nowadays

[kindred coral]

Nevermind I probably wrongly understood

[vapid smelt]

only 300?

[manic torrent]

I could have got more, but I got the 3080ti so low idgaf

[polar steeple]

5600x is less than $200 now

[full fossil]

I would be ecstatic if I could find a 3080ti for that price

[manic torrent]

second hand, obviously

[full fossil]

You built the phone, heh. You wouldn’t lose anything since you own all the hardware and jailbreaking gives you complete control

Ah yeah

[lilac sage]

I think 3080 12GB were around 700 during black friday retail

basically identical to a 3080ti imo

[full fossil]

I refuse buying stuff second hand, I know it's silly but I just don't fw it

Software locks can be bypassed via jailbreak

Afaik

[polar steeple]

[full fossil]

Electronics are the one thing I don't like buying used, anything else is cool. Furniture, clothes, whatever

[manic torrent]

and I upgraded to a 5700x from a 3700x. Cost me $300 AUD I think? cheap AF

[lilac sage]

buying a gpu now sucks

[kindred coral]

I mean... I want the phone being normally working and having normal working SE2020

[manic torrent]

and ironically, the least affected by being used.

[full fossil]

1650 all the way

[full fossil]

Because I see how other people that aren't me treat their stuff sometimes

[lilac sage]

ye linus dropped a xeon.

[polar steeple]

Bro a full on crash dummy with these takes lol

[full fossil]

I see too many people that don't maintain or respect their hardware, I'd rather not buy something like that

[lilac sage]

some ppl have no idea how to handle electronics

[manic torrent]

upgrading to the mid-high end of the previous generation is A+++ value for money. and I can keep doing it forever.

[kindred coral]

Reasonable, but still... Wanting the high end and expecting to last for long if you're high end hungry? Naive

[full fossil]

Tell me how i broke my socket

[full fossil]

I will eat my shoe if a 4080/90 is underperforming in 5 years

[manic torrent]

a computer isn't a single purchase asset. You need to look at it as money over time, and optimise for that.

[kindred coral]

Triangle on wrong place?

[lilac sage]

yep. did you get anything in august/september 2020 when 2080S was going for like 300-400 bucks?

crazy times

[manic torrent]

Because 3k now is worse in 5 years than 1.5k now and 1.5k in 2.5 years

[full fossil]

Fucking AMD adhesive pulled my cpu out at an angle

[full fossil]

Not really when specs keep changing. I can't upgrade my ram for example without buying a whole new motherboard, in which case I'd also need a new CPU

[manic torrent]

I was stupidly waiting 😄

[kindred coral]

[lilac sage]

oof

[manic torrent]

.... cry me a river, it still applies.

[kindred coral]

Well good night everyone! And good luck with new pc, try to buy something reasonable

[manic torrent]

specs ALWAYS change. All it means is that your cadence alters slightly

[full fossil]

I mean I'm not saying you're wrong dude I'm just telling you where I'm at

Sometimes you can just upgrade one part

[polar steeple]

Bro mind is gonna be blown when RTX 6080 is doing 8k120

[full fossil]

If I'm upgrading like 3 or 4 things at once it might as well be a new build

[manic torrent]

spending $500? Might as well spend $1500

[lilac sage]

only thing i believe in future proofing is the PSU

since those things can last a decade easy

[sage quiver]

ATX 12VO has entered the chat

[lilac sage]

muh seasonic 12 year warranty

[full fossil]

Lol not right now, ATX 3.0 is a thing

[manic torrent]

also case is a good option to futureproof, unless you're like me and decide you want a new case because purty

[lilac sage]

ATX 3.0 sucks so much

[polar steeple]

Like I said earlier, dude is just looking for an excuse to set money on fire

[full fossil]

How

[manic torrent]

wrong

[full fossil]

Yeah like what

[lilac sage]

it sucks now

[full fossil]

You can actually monitor voltage and temps from the OS how does that suck

[manic torrent]

12V is king. I have a desk area 12V power supply.

[lilac sage]

basically we're in a transition period where the main reason for ATX 3.0 isnt even being utilized

which is the sense pins

[manic torrent]

.... what is the main reason

incorrect.

[full fossil]

Yeah you'd need a board that supports it but that's kinda new to me, outside my knowledge

[lilac sage]

I was pretty sure the main reason for the change were the transient spikes

[manic torrent]

It's because ATX has a bunch of useless shitty pins that are no longer relevant, and everything that matters is 12V

[lilac sage]

and the sense pins that communicated to the PSU about voltage requirements were made to prevent that

are we talking about ATX12VO or ATX 3.0?

imo 12VO is the real game changer

3.0 is pretty meh

[full fossil]

Yeah

[lilac sage]

cool beans

this is a server ran by a canadian :P

[edgy moss]

Wait. Did I type that in the wrong server

I did lmaoooooo

Sorry guys

[full fossil]

[edgy moss]

The button for this server and the other are right next to each other

[manic torrent]

ah, my bad, I had conflated the two

[manic torrent]

you suck!

... The buttons are right next to each other 😉

[halcyon ermine]

https://youtu.be/ivO0LOnmhJw

[tepid bolt]

How many gens before ATX 3.0 is a dead standard?

[lilac sage]

gpu gens? prob like 4

including this current gen RTX 40

so 8 years

oh nvm you said dead standard.

Id say 8 years before an ATX revision

maybe 12 before ATX 3.0 dead

[manic torrent]

All standards are dead standards

[edgy moss]

ATX 3.0?

Are you referring to PCIE Gen 3?

I’m confused

[tepid bolt]

You think it's gonna take that long?
AMD and Intel aren't supporting it, and ATX12VO doesn't have the 12VHPWR connector.

[full fossil]

No, there's a new ATX PSU standard

[edgy moss]

Oh cool

I think ATX12VO should be the new standard

[full fossil]

There's only a handful of models that are even made with it so far

MSI being one of them

Who I didn't know even made power supplies until now

[lilac sage]

ye 12VO is still incredibly niche

I see way more 3.0 PSUs than 12VO PSUs

plus 12VO requires a new MB as well

[manic torrent]

every major OEM workplace desktop will be 12VO

[lilac sage]

I wish it would be adopted

by enthusiasts but its not gonna happen for sometime

[edgy moss]

Same. It just makes sense from an efficiency standpoint

[lilac sage]

they could prob make adapters like they did for the 12VHPWR connectors

[jaunty compass]

as bad as the new gpu market is

the used market is doing ok

[lilac sage]

like they stop making normal ATX mobos

[spare narwhal]

£550 for a rtx3080 good?

[lilac sage]

make 12VO Mobos

then make an adapter so that ur old psu can still work

[edgy moss]

The last time I bought a firsthand GPU was when the rx 400 series came out

[jaunty compass]

the last brand new gpu i got was a gt 1030 in like 2017

[edgy moss]

The used market is just fine and I don’t really get why people waste money on a brand new GPU

[spare narwhal]

Pretty much same here

[jaunty compass]

i needed a low profile card on short notice tbh

[edgy moss]

I currently own 3 graphics cards

None being bought new

[simple quail]

I kinda wish I could power my PC off 12 volts, so backup power wouldn't have to be wasted on converting to mains voltage only to be converted back to 12 V internally

[jaunty compass]

some people are allergic to buying anything from anywhere but a store

[edgy moss]

Too bad for them!

[jaunty compass]

and some people think any listing below retail is a scam and that every used market card will kill their family or something

[manic torrent]

I have three... two I bought new, 6600XT and the P400. Made more sense than s/h during the shortage

[simple quail]

on that note, I wish DC circuits in homes would become more of a thing, as backup, solar, etc. are so much more efficient to pull off with DC, and backup power would also be so much simpler to do

[manic torrent]

transmission loss.

I mean, don't get me wrong I'm not opposed to it

a 96V house DC bus would be great.

but the thing is... you'd need converters anyway, so you aren't really winning

[simple quail]

quite minimal within the home, like you'd have a giant rectifier for the mains voltage coming in, converting it to smth like 24, 48, 96 V, whilst keeping the power lines outside the home AC

would be kinda cool if we could send really high power through USB-C, so one cable could handle all the power, networking and all that (though it would probably be a technical nightmare to pull off without completely new standards)

[graceful burrow]

We can good news

[manic torrent]

yeah you really need to understand more about electrical signals 🙂

^^ 22.5% voltage drop. Not exactly great

[edgy moss]

Yeah I have a 6750xt in my main rig, a 1650 super in my secondary rig (it’s a media/Minecraft server right now) and a Radeon Pro WX 3100 laying around

[graceful burrow]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/new-usb-c-type-2-1-standard-offers-up-to-240-w-power-delivery/

[full fossil]

Anyone have suggestions on prebuilt companies that aren't a complete rip? Since I guess Starforge uses kinda crap parts

[edgy moss]

Ruin your phone battery even faster!

[full fossil]

Fire hazard type beat

[edgy moss]

Seriously, this is good for high power devices like gaming laptops

[graceful burrow]

Since it's usb pd it's made for it
And will shut off when it reaches full charge

[jaunty compass]

My internet just went out, back

So I was going to say.
I technically bought a new 6600 XT on ebay back in April at less than MSRP, but it was really sus. The card was super clean but I'm pretty sure it was stolen from microcenter or something

They had a really weird story that didn't make sense

[simple quail]

I'm talking even higher, like desktop PC style power consumption, which would indeed be hard to pull off in any reasonably thin cable if you wanted data alongside it

[jaunty compass]

But the card was brand new in box and had micro center stickers on it

[lilac sage]

im guessing you saw their prebuilts had AMD parts

[full fossil]

No? I was told directly by people here that their parts are not good

No less than 30 minutes ago lmao

[manic torrent]

which is exactly the point

[jaunty compass]

I just wouldn't go for a prebuilt tbh

[lilac sage]

you can you send me a parts list of soem of their stuff?

it honestly seems fine

[full fossil]

I'm just on the fence with it. Idk if the extra price is worth the headache of setting stuff up to me

[lilac sage]

like stuff we would usually recommend here

[manic torrent]

the thing is you're talking about USB C - USB C is just a connector. USB power delivery is a seperate spec.

[full fossil]

I was told the ram is crap

And all together the build was not worth 2300

[manic torrent]

USB C supports thunderbolt 3/4 and USB4, but only at distances up to 2M for copper cables.

[lilac sage]

is this ddr5 or ddr4?

[manic torrent]

same with DP over USB C.

[jaunty compass]

I just like building PCs and don't really trust some underpaid technician to do it for me 💀

[full fossil]

Ddr5 CL40 5200

[full fossil]

That's understandable

[simple quail]

it has its limits with the pins so close to each other

[lilac sage]

yes thats bad

[manic torrent]

I don't trust anyone to fuck up my PC. I want to fuck it up myself

[lilac sage]

as in low

[jaunty compass]

Based

[manic torrent]

That isn't the problem though.

[full fossil]

I don't know enough about DDR5 to know what I'm looking for as far as timing and latency etc

[jaunty compass]

At least if I fuck it up myself I know what is probably fucked up

[manic torrent]

TB5 will be 120gb/s in one direction, or 80gb/s bidir

[jaunty compass]

Me when single direction cable

[lilac sage]

everything else is fine it seems

[jaunty compass]

You're not allowed to send data the other way, that's illegal

[manic torrent]

this isn't based on cable, it's negotiated.

[lilac sage]

RAM is easy enough to change out so if its financially viable to sell the RAM and buy better newer ones that may still work out

[jaunty compass]

I know I'm just trying to make a joke 💀

[full fossil]

Yeah I could do that

[simple quail]

was talking about shovelling more power through it, but I agree with data transfer

[full fossil]

I just like that it's a small company and they actually test them all before shipping them out, they benchmark on timespy or something

Small compared to like, iBuyPower or something

It's not even the "owned by streamers" aspect, IDC about that

[coarse comet]

Are custom photo mousepads really bad I was gonna buy one?

[graceful burrow]

They're generally pretty low quality usually kek

[jaunty compass]

Wide Linus mousepad when

[lilac sage]

Most benchmarks dont really leverage memory speed

[coarse comet]

Oh ok

[tepid bolt]

How do I clean this steelseries mousepad there's a bunch of cat hair stuck to it

[lilac sage]

so slow memory is like one of the few things that ur famous benchmarks dont notice

[graceful burrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coarse comet]

They sell that on ltt store

[jaunty compass]

Bro. This chat moderation bot is gonna make me blow a gasket I can't even reference the video because-

[lilac sage]

at least stuff like cinebench, and timespy, and uniengine, etc.

[graceful burrow]

Skill issue

[lilac sage]

you cant even refrence soem countries here so thats the least of ur worries

[jaunty compass]

It was in reference to a certain website in a certain recent April fools video

And Linus from that video on a mousepad

[coarse comet]

I want a portal 2 mousepad but there either like terrible wish ones or there £100 so I was gonna get a custom photo one

[jaunty compass]

They seriously need to adjust the censorship bot a little so it isn't so overly aggressive

[graceful burrow]

No it's fine the way it is

[jaunty compass]

I disagree, but whatever

[coarse comet]

There is kids on here so it has to be strict

[jaunty compass]

It's just the weirdest most random things that seem to be on the list

Ever time I've tripped the censor, it was during normal conversation with ordinary words and topics

💀

[lilac sage]

sometimes i accidentally say ppl without the l and the bot oofs me

[full fossil]

Literally 1984

[jaunty compass]

h

[full fossil]

Anybody here have knowledge on cameras

[manic torrent]

ask your damn question

[full fossil]

This discord man I swear. I'm looking to see if the Sony ZV-e10 is a decent camlink camera, trying to upgrade from a webcam

Just not sure if anyone has one or used one

https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/aps-c/p/ilczve10-b

[manic torrent]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[manic torrent]

what are you trying to achieve with the upgrade

[full fossil]

Just better picture quality, I'm using a C920. And something that can actually run at 60 frames

At 1080*

[manic torrent]

Plenty of actual 1080p webcams, you don't need to go up to a full camera for that

Hell the logitech streamcam will do it

[full fossil]

Fair. I was just trying to get a DSLR/mirror less so I can take it off the tripod and use it for photography/filming elsewhere

Kind of a do-everything camera

[manic torrent]

yeah - I mean if that suits your use case, awesome. I really prefer my desktop gear to be fixed, because it always ends up being lost or disconnected or whatever

And you go to join a meeting with your boss and you have no video or audio, and you look A+++

[sage quiver]

I doubt C920 to StreamCam would bring a significant upgrade in image quality

[manic torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tpw6V7vYII&t=220s

[sage quiver]

Webcams in general have barely improved over the last decade

[manic torrent]

the streamcam is a camera

[full fossil]

I mean ideally yeah I'd get two DSLRs but then I'd be "burning money" or whatever Mr. insufferable was talking about earlier

[manic torrent]

the C920 is a webcam.

[sage quiver]

The in-between upgrade would be to use your smartphone. If it’s at least somewhat recent, it’ll blow any webcam out of the water.

[full fossil]

Can't be blowing my parents money that I don't talk to I guess

[manic torrent]

I'm thinking about moving away from my heavy DSLR as a default webcam

[lilac sage]

Go Pro Camera

[full fossil]

Go pro isn't even a bad idea tbh

They have good quality for what they are

[full fossil]

I looked into doing this at some point and couldn't figure it out in a way that didn't look like ass

I have a One Plus 10 pro so the camera is phenomenal

[sage quiver]

Hmm

[warm jay]

agreed, using phone camera is 10x better than any webcam

[full fossil]

Granted this was years ago maybe there's a new program or something that wasn't around

[warm jay]

or mobile camera

only thing better than using it cost wayyy more

[sage quiver]

If it was pre-pandemic, I’d re-explore the space

[full fossil]

Like if I could just get clean HDMI output from phone to PC like I would with a camlink/DSLR that would be great I just don't know how

But then I wouldn't be able to use my phone at all during stream which would kinda suck

[sage quiver]

Yeah that’s a fair point

[warm jay]

just buy another phone, skill issue

[full fossil]

But that Sony camera I posted seems good for the cost, it's relatively new

[sage quiver]

If you’re actually looking to pursue photography, I’d say go for a proper camera you can dual-purpose.

[polar steeple]

True until the insta link 360 came to market

[full fossil]

Yeah I'd like to do both, honestly filmmaking more than photography so the video capabilities matter more to me

I'm very good at photography but I like film and editing more

I guess I'll do some more research

[sage quiver]

Good luck!

[warm jay]

you can go miles with just a phone camera but it does limit you at some step

[full fossil]

Thanks I appreciate it

[polar steeple]

You can add your phone as a virtual camera in OBS pretty easily

[full fossil]

Really? How

[sage quiver]

My understanding is there was a lot of development in that space over the last few years due to the rise of WFH

[full fossil]

That would be cool to at least try

Yeah like I said I haven't looked into it in a few years

[polar steeple]

There's some way to do it where you can create a link that can be sent and accessed via browser

[full fossil]

Oh damn ok

[polar steeple]

I saw it on a channel called Tech Notice

[full fossil]

I'll look into that

[polar steeple]

Within like the last 6 months

[full fossil]

Definitely not my permanent solution but it could be cool to try

Would be better than my c920 for sure

[manic torrent]

yes, and it's all local, doesn't use the intertrons.

[full fossil]

The what

[polar steeple]

There are ways to do it over a wired connection but it would require another piece of software

[manic torrent]

the arpatubes

[full fossil]

Rick and Morty ass words

Lol

[manic torrent]

dude. My shittalking predates rick and morty by many many years.

The internet is a series of tubes, don't you know.

invented by al gore.

[sage quiver]

I thought it was carrier pigeons

[full fossil]

George bush type beat

[manic torrent]

tanks, with 0 or 1 painted on them 🙂

[polar steeple]

Also look into your phones specs for display out over USB c

Could be that the phone itself supports it but only at ahitty resolution

[full fossil]

At least I thought bush said that

I'm probably wrong

[polar steeple]

AL Gore

[manic torrent]

Ted Stevens: It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes.

[polar steeple]

He ran against George Bush I'm the 2000 election

[manic torrent]

no, al gore INVENTED the internet

[full fossil]

That's it yeah

I was hearing the audio in my head and it sounded like Georgie

[manic torrent]

close enough

[full fossil]

Lol

[polar steeple]

I'd be surprised if George Bush ever referenced the internet during his term lol

[twin bane]

Hello!

[polar steeple]

He mostly spoke in folksy catch phrases like "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, don't get fooled again"

[full fossil]

Bro knew about electricity that was about it

[manic torrent]

protip: if you're going to wedge your finger in a door, make sure it's the one with nerve damage, (from earlier slicing it open with a knife accidentally), so it doesn't really hurt

[full fossil]

Oof

[full fossil]

I just really like monkeys

[twin bane]

Who doesnt

[manic torrent]

was moving an antique sewing machine cabinet (with sewing machine built in) and had to open the door to hold it. Got it wedged on another bit of furniture coming around a corner, and had to keep going, because if I dropped it, it would be worse, and I could not have got it out.

[polar steeple]

Chimps are apes

[manic torrent]

.... no

[full fossil]

Anybody here have a favorite sweet tea brand

Like bottled stuff

[polar steeple]

Yeah, they are lol

[manic torrent]

We are putting our charging station, printer, and associated guff on the vintage sewing machine. Classing up the joint

[full fossil]

Vintage and antique stuff is awesome

I like collecting random crap from thrift stores for my apartment

[manic torrent]

oh this is from my wifes grandmother (and possibly more before that)

[full fossil]

Oh wow

[coarse comet]

My parents decorate my room I hate it I can't wait to leave

[manic torrent]

How old are you?

[coarse comet]

15

[manic torrent]

That's ... odd.

[full fossil]

Moving out was the best mental health boost I ain't gonna lie, you got a while tho

[coarse comet]

I'm leaving at 18

[full fossil]

I moved out at, maybe 20? 19? Something like that

Your parents decorating your room is definitely strange tho

[coarse comet]

Or 17 depends becuase I have an apprenticeship in Edinburgh which Is about 3 hours away from me

[coarse comet]

They say its their house and it will look how they want it too

[full fossil]

Bruh what

I'm sorry but your parents sound a little toxic

[manic torrent]

I mean, we decorated my soons room ... he's 5. But we are changing the decor to his tastes more. We have to keep it simple because he's ... not gentle 🙂

[full fossil]

My mom was the "it's my house my rules" type but that's more with staying out late and shit

Not with decorating my own room

[manic torrent]

You absolutely need your own space.

[coarse comet]

My parents don't like me that much they like my sister so they just want me to move out

[full fossil]

Now I get to run wild with my eastern decor, or anything worldly really

I love stuff from Africa and anything Asian

[coarse comet]

I really want some vintage motorsport stuff and make a cool aesthetic

[full fossil]

My friends mom's fiance gave me this antique Japanese wood block painting that is super cool, I love stuff like that

I wish I had a photo

Ah I don't have perms anyways

[manic torrent]

Inside the middle bit is a fold up sewing machine, driven by a pedal

[full fossil]

That's super cool

[manic torrent]

It weighs about a jillion kg

[full fossil]

Anything old like that tends to yeah, they built stuff really solid back in the day

Now it's all veneer particle board

[manic torrent]

It's a bit of a contrast to my ultra modern dark vibe

[coarse comet]

I love Japan I would like to move there but it's so hard

[full fossil]

I love Japan and would like to visit at least but they're a lot more xenophobic over there than people realize

Which sucks because otherwise it's a really cool place from what I can tell

Flights to JP are insane expensive too unfortunately

At least from where I'm at in the US

[coarse comet]

Yeah I know the cost isn't a problem for me becuase when I finish my apprenticeship I'll be on a very high wage

[full fossil]

Like those are the biggest downsides is they really don't like foreigners, and the work/life balance is absolutely awful

[manic torrent]

money is not important ..... if you have enough of it

[full fossil]

Salary workers like actually falling asleep on the sidewalk

It's crazy

[manic torrent]

haha, go to china, you will be fighting off people who want to take your photo

[full fossil]

A lot of eastern countries really like tourists yeah, JP just doesn't unfortunately

[manic torrent]

I want to go, but I have a feeling it will be a long while before that happens.

[coarse comet]

Sorry I should probably explain what an apprenticeship is as your probably not from my country

[full fossil]

The place I'd like to go most actually is Myanmar, used to be Burma

Absolutely beautiful country

[coarse comet]

An apprenticeship is a paid job where the employee learns and gains valuable experiences. Alongside on-the-job training, apprentices spend at least 20% of their working hours completing classroom-based learning with a college, university or training provider which leads to a nationally recognised qualification.

[manic torrent]

My son is chinese, his parents immigrated here. We'd love to visit where they are from

[full fossil]

They really like tourists there from what I read

[edgy moss]

Gonna unsub from Linus he said “Milwaukee” wrong

Source: I’m from Wisconsin

[full fossil]

That would be awesome

Lots of natural beauty over there and the older architecture is incredible

[coarse comet]

I've been to China it looks amazing but the food wasn't for me

[manic torrent]

also lol, pre-pandemic we were at the CNY festival here in the city, and it was us (super white) and our son when he was little, and every chinese grandmother was fawning over us

[full fossil]

Lot easier now that travel restrictions are letting up from COVID, just flights are real expensive

But hey money is money, imo you can't put a price on seeing the world

[manic torrent]

travel restrictions are letting up, but covid isn't

[full fossil]

That's the first thing I'm doing when I've got extra to burn

[manic torrent]

you clearly can 🙂

[full fossil]

Yeah no not at all. I work at a hospital and our cases are going up and up

[coarse comet]

I hope covid doesn't mutate I am a high risk person and I can't have the vaccine

[manic torrent]

I just stay home and build my battlestation, build my RC stuff, build build build.

[manic torrent]

I mean it is, constantly.

[full fossil]

I'm a shut in personally but I'd like to change that eventually

[manic torrent]

My son is high risk, and I'm not exactly low risk.

[coarse comet]

I had it once and I was in hospital for 3 months and nobody visited it was very boring

[manic torrent]

So we don't go out, and if we do, we are wearing these: https://flomask.com/

[full fossil]

I got all my vaccines luckily, it's not completely foolproof but it helps

If not for myself then for others

[manic torrent]

Do recommend. It's a mask that says "what if we made one that didn't totally suck ass to wear?"

[full fossil]

My great grandparents are still with us in their 90s, they definitely would not make it if they caught that shit

So I got all mine before I visited FL last time

[coarse comet]

I can't have the vaccine it's hella annoying becuase here we have the covid passports so I can't go to the shops if they make the passports compulsory

[full fossil]

Ah that sucks yeah

[manic torrent]

We don't go to the shops anymore anyway. we get 95% of stuff delivered.

[full fossil]

I've sent my vaccine card through the wash by accident, it's still legible but I don't carry it around anymore because I'm worried it'll get worse

[manic torrent]

ah, here we have it on an app

[full fossil]

I just keep it with my passport

[full fossil]

I didn't even know that was a thing

I need to look into that

[manic torrent]

we have an app for medicare, so it's part of that

[full fossil]

I mean worst case I can pull my records from the pharmacy that gave it to me with a simple phone call

I got it at retail pharmacy that I used to work at so they know me and will fax it, I've needed that before for some other vaccines

So not too much trouble

[full fossil]

This reminds me I need to start thinking about insurance

[coarse comet]

I haven't had any vaccines since I was 2 so I've missed alot of them like cancer and polio so I always need to be careful when I'm out

[full fossil]

The one thing I do still mooch off my parents is their health insurance, but I'm about to be 26 and can't be anymore

My works plans are God awful

[coarse comet]

Where I live it's free healthcare

[manic torrent]

I'm up to date on tetanus 😄 - I tend to injure myself often

[full fossil]

USA moment, I wish

[coarse comet]

Haha

[vapid smelt]

taxes= free

[coarse comet]

I've missed like all of mine lol

[manic torrent]

also lots of bruises, but that's partly from having a 5yo that thinks dad is a climbing pole or a wrestling partner

[twin bane]

lol

[full fossil]

I mean yeah you do pay for it but it's just an easier system

[coarse comet]

Yeah I know I pay 50%

[manic torrent]

single payer.

[vapid smelt]

true

[full fossil]

Christ on a bike you pay 50 percent in taxes over there

[manic torrent]

US healthcare costs more and gets you less. (at a country level)

[coarse comet]

Only becuase I'm in a high income household for most people it's 20%

[full fossil]

Especially for someone like me that doesn't get serviced on the regular

I might go to any form of doctor once or twice in a year

So with how high my deductible is I'd be paying cash regardless, what's the point in shelling out every month

[coarse comet]

20% for less than 50k a year income 40% for less than 120k a year income and 50% for 120k+

[full fossil]

I don't have any conditions or take any meds

[manic torrent]

well la de dah! 😛

[full fossil]

That's not a bad breakdown then

[coarse comet]

I take alot becuase my immune system is broken

[full fossil]

Lol trust me I know how lucky I am

It'll catch up to me I'm still young

Something will break on me eventually

[manic torrent]

I just have meds for my asthma, anxiety, and ADHD.

[coarse comet]

I've took 4 pills and had inhalers since I can remember

[full fossil]

I really, REALLY should be taking psych meds for a few things but I just don't go get seen

[manic torrent]

anxiety is awesome. "What's wrong? YES!"

[full fossil]

The side effects outweigh the benefits for me, I've tried before

[coarse comet]

Twice a day I have 4 pills and every morning and night inhalers

I have 1 for acute lung failure
1 for I forgot the word but mild scitzophrenia
1 for my stomach acid
And one for my heart stability and the inhalers are for asthma

[full fossil]

Damn you're falling apart man

If I had to guess, the first thing that's going out on me is my heart. Really bad caffeine and nicotine addiction will catch up to me

[coarse comet]

Haha I got a severe carbon dioxide poisoning when I was 2 or 3 I was in the hospital for about 5 years it destroyed my immune system and lungs

[full fossil]

My numbers are all good last time I checked though

[full fossil]

That's wild

[coarse comet]

I was ment to be dead like 4 years ago so I have no clue lol

Probably my lungs

[full fossil]

Glad you're still among the living though, that's great

[coarse comet]

Yeah I'm lucky to be alive the doctors were amazed I was ever able to leave the hospital

[full fossil]

Yeah for sure

[coarse comet]

It did cause my family to fall apart though so the next few years after were tough it had been many years it was like a new life

That's why my parents don't like me becuase they blame me for tearing the family apart

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/new-tech-smell-linus-linus-tech-tips-ltt-storage-gif-24924838

[quick ferry]

I feel like I sent to the wrong support email lol

[full fossil]

Hey so, I'm fixing up an older PC for a friend right

I7, 7th gen (don't remember the actual model) on an single fan air cooling with heatsink. After I repasted we're at 27c while idle in BIOS, is that decent

I know it's not a real test until we run a game or something but

[coarse comet]

Tiny bit high you probably want it at about 20 at idle but it's pretty good

[sage quiver]

I wouldn’t call that high

[graceful burrow]

That's not high at all kek

[sage quiver]

20 might even be sub ambient

[graceful burrow]

High at idle is like 50 kek

27 at idle is ideal

[full fossil]

Keep in mind this is air not AIO

Single fan

I thought it was good just wanted to check with some others

Previous owner bent the damn heatsink on the corner too lol

[sage quiver]

Happens.

Them fins be thin

[prime night]

uhhhhmmmm

[vapid smelt]

i idle in the 30s

[prime night]

MW2 turned into rainbow road for me

[full fossil]

I'm gonna put HWinfo on it and watch the GPU temps, that's what I'm worried about. It's an old 1070. Really trying to avoid repasting that or replacing thermal pads

[full fossil]

I don't think it needs to last him long before he gets a new rig but

I will die on the Kryonaut paste hill, that stuff is great

Best thing that isn't liquid metal afaik

[leaden gale]

Common Activision L tbh

[full fossil]

I'm afraid to use that stuff lmao

[manic torrent]

MW2 is literally the most unreliable piece of software I have used in many years.

[full fossil]

I have a 9900k on my rig, my two fan Corsair AIO had me idling at 16c the other day

[prime night]

Go look in #tech-chat-1

[full fossil]

Pretty amazing

Granted I keep my apartment like an ice chest

[trail sigil]

will there be any problems on my pc if i use 2 memory sticks that come from the same manufacturer with different mhz and one is udimm while the other is dimm

[full fossil]

Don't do this

Ram sticks generally should be same speed/timing

[trail sigil]

oh ok 🫂

[full fossil]

Worst case you won't even boot I don't think, otherwise you'll have bad instability

[warm snow]

Damn. Christmas break ends today 😭😭😭

[vapid smelt]

damn your still a child

[full fossil]

Oof

I need to take a Christmas break

I ain't had more than two days in a row off in a while

Coopa your pfp cracks me up every time

[coarse comet]

Tommorow is my last day

[shut jewel]

I got curious to see where galaxytech.com would redirect to on the LTT vid, and it goes to their Outlook Web App login screen for their Microsoft Exchange 😂

[vapid smelt]

ty Disney made it

[full fossil]

Lol

[manic torrent]

Wtf

[full fossil]

What

I just haven't taken any actual vacation in a bit

Just my weekends

Trying to save up a meaningful amount of PTO so I can take a long trip down to FL and visit family

Haven't been at this job for too long

[vapid smelt]

last vacation i took was to Hawaii just before Thanksgiving