public-chat

[polar steeple]

Sony and Apple are not competitors in the phone market. Not in anything but name at least

[jagged juniper]

Thats it.. its the Flex not the ideapad

Flips all the way around

[summer folio]

How can you even sleep, knowing you have to look at that blurry mess of pixels on your phone the next day?

[fossil frost]

sony make android phones, sony make flagship android phones, sony make professional looking flagship android phones... that cost over a grand... i would say that while not acknowledged competitors, they are competitors

[jagged juniper]

@summer folio I wake up just like everyone else.. one bloody boot at a time... then my pants then my boxers in that order

[polar steeple]

Phones are such a miniscule part of sony's business model though and a huge part of Apple's

[summer folio]

Sleep in cloths, save valueable seconds

[polar steeple]

Of you're listing Sony competitors in the phone market you're talking about Redmi and Huawei not Apple

[jagged juniper]

I'm not a savage

[fossil frost]

doesnt matter, if sony wants to stay in the business of selling phones, they have to follow the market

[jagged juniper]

Even if its stupid

[polar steeple]

Sony absolutely does not want to be in the business of selling phones lol

I think they only do it to market their camera sensors to other OEMs

[ember maple]

Is READ ONLY MEMORY and example of HDD and ssd ?

[jagged juniper]

Another day at the office where I didnt do anything productive...

[polar steeple]

If Sony had a real go to market strategy for phones they would do well, but they don't

[fossil frost]

then why do they keep making them, and putting a lot of time and money into their own ROM and their own hardware?

[fossil frost]

no

[ember maple]

Oh what is it then

[hearty creek]

Even FHD+ is good enough

[jagged juniper]

@ember maple Lol what do you think Read Only means?

[polar steeple]

It's a good question that people have been asking for years

[ember maple]

Storage

[jagged juniper]

What kind?

[fossil frost]

ive answered your question. if you want me to do your homework for you, it will cost you $50 plus the name and address of your school

[hearty creek]

Bruh

[jagged juniper]

@ember maple Read Only Memory is... Read Only. Not writable. You cant put anything on it

[full fossil]

hello

[polar steeple]

Wait

[jagged juniper]

Its in the name lol

[polar steeple]

Are ROMs called ROMs because they are Read Only Memory

[jagged juniper]

yes

[ember maple]

Oh ok

[fossil frost]

yes, thats exactly what ROM stands for

and... RAM... stands for Random Access Memory

[ember maple]

An example is a Xbox disk?

[jagged juniper]

No

[polar steeple]

Okay so how do people make changes to ROMs if they are read only? I'm talking about like when people "enhance" old games like they've done with NES games and the like

[fossil frost]

use google to do your homework, not discord

[hearty creek]

And RW is read & write

Though that term became dead after dvds died

[fossil frost]

EPROM = Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory, EEPROM = Electronically Erasable Read Only Memory

[ember maple]

Ssds are both

[fossil frost]

what media is an xbox disc?

[jagged juniper]

a ROM is a specific chip on a board that the manufacturer installed a specific set of code that is not something the user can change

The scratchable kind

[polar steeple]

Or I guess a better question is

[ember maple]

It’s not homework I just never understood ROM

[polar steeple]

Why are the files you use to play emulated games with called ROMs

[fossil frost]

im not stupid, its homework, i know a homework question when i see one

[ember maple]

I forgot

[hearty creek]

An example is cpu instructions in the L1 cache or not?

[fossil frost]

L1 cache is RAM

[ember maple]

I think you are because it’s not homework 😃

[polar steeple]

No, YOURE a towel Stan

[jagged juniper]

@polar steepleBecause its read only

[fossil frost]

a ROM is something like a DVD-ROM where its write once... read many... once a DVD-ROM has been written to, you can never write to it again

[hearty creek]

I know that its rewriteable but the instructions cant be overwritten probably

[fossil frost]

no, L1 cache is RAM on the cpu die

[hearty creek]

Ik💀

And ram is rewritable as well as cache

[fossil frost]

you can have flash-rom too... which are chips that can store your BIOS or other stuff that you never change

[jagged juniper]

@polar steepleWhen you play a ROM of some game your not altering the data inside that rom. Your reading it as if it was a cartridge/cd/dvd

[ember maple]

Yes that what I said about the Xbox disk being ROM

[jagged juniper]

Well an Xbox also has a hard disk storage or SSD for long term storage

[polar steeple]

But can you copy the data contained within that ROM?

[ember maple]

Yes

[vapid smelt]

if it only reads how would it hold storage?

[fossil frost]

this... its named ROM because the long name for a "ROM" in this case, where its a game from a console, is "ROM Dump", as in, the dumped image from a ROM media, such as a cartridge or a DVD or a CD. Theoretically, you can overwrite a ROM stored on a HDD

[jagged juniper]

Yes... you can READ the data and copy it somewhere else

[hearty creek]

If you can read it you can copy it most likely

[ember maple]

Reads from the data it’s given I meant

[fossil frost]

ROM's can be read, that's their point you can read them as much as you want and copy stuff to where ever you want... but you cant write back to the rom

[ember maple]

Ok ty

[polar steeple]

Thank you

[jagged juniper]

@fossil frostCould you imagine if we went down the path of writing save data back to the disks instead of going the memory card route?

[polar steeple]

I've done a fair bit of emulating going back many years and never understood the term ROM

[fossil frost]

we did on some cartridges, they had onboard flash as well as rom, or an EEPROM

i feel so old now, that there are people who see ROM and think "emulated game" but dont actually understand where ROM comes from or that games came on cartridges or CDs at some point in the past

and that i do understand all that, because i lived through it all, and actively performed it all myself too 😄

[polar steeple]

I mean I'm 31 I'm very familiar with carts and CDs but LTT wasn't around in the mid 90s to explain the nuances

[jagged juniper]

@fossil frostYeah I remember those days on the Super Nintendo

[fossil frost]

was never gonna happen on CD/DVD though, because having a write capable laser on a console would bump the price super high, and, any game that ever got any sort of scratch on it... the burn laser would immediately be blamed and the console maker would have to warranty the disc

[jagged juniper]

It was like magic how Super Mario World saved your progress

[fossil frost]

LTT wasnt around in the 90s when i was growing up too, but there were still forums, and IRC, and plenty of other places to find all this stuff out

im only a year to 18 months older than linus :S

[jagged juniper]

$10 say's my screwdriver arrives after I get home tonight

[polar steeple]

Sure, if you wanted to, but that's not where interests fell at that age

At least for me personally

[urban acorn]

y'all think an RX 6600 would bottleneck a Ryzen 5 2600x?

[polar steeple]

No

[fossil frost]

no

im so fucking sick of the word bottleneck

[jagged juniper]

same

[polar steeple]

Lolol

[jagged juniper]

@urban acornTake the term Bottleneck and stop using it. They dont exist like you think

[polar steeple]

What terms would you two prefer? CPU Bound and GPU Bound?

[jagged juniper]

It depends on what your doing honestly

[urban acorn]

I'm trying to not bottleneck my processor

[jagged juniper]

Lol what

[urban acorn]

:)

[jagged juniper]

How do you think it works?

[fossil frost]

you dont understand what the term means, so you arent going to run into the limitations of that term

[polar steeple]

I have a 5600x and 6700XT and I'm displaybound because I only have a 75hz monitor

[jagged juniper]

Your CPU isnt going to suddenly perform worse

[fossil frost]

"performance in X is limited by Y", needs to be that specific... ie. "performance in Crysis 3 is limited by the CPU when i have this particular cpu and gpu"... or "Performance in photoshop is limited by the GPU when i have this particular gpu and cpu, BECAUSE of reason .... "

[polar steeple]

Ain't nobody got time for that

[fossil frost]

"will X bottleneck y" is a stupid question, because it has zero context and the two are not comparable, so there is no point comparing them

[jagged juniper]

That term needs to die

[polar steeple]

12900K for everybody

ALLLLLL THE FRAMES

[jagged juniper]

@urban acorn Will a 710 GT bottleneck my Ryzen 5 3600X?

[fossil frost]

tbh, places like LTT and GN are to blame for it, they needed a single word to encapsulate a lot of context, for stupid people to understand what it was they were saying

[jagged juniper]

The answer is no

Because it's being used as a truenas server and I only need it for basic video out

[fossil frost]

anyway, time to kick my son and nephews arses on fortnite 🙂

[polar steeple]

If Nas had to build a nas what sort of nas would he use

[jagged juniper]

Synology

[polar steeple]

Definitely

Nas seems like a plug and play guy

[jagged juniper]

Nas is tired of building nas at work and just wants something that works

[polar steeple]

I love watching videos about networking but I have no idea what half of it means

[jagged juniper]

@polar steepleI really started to learn when I built my pfsense router and wanted to do more advanced stuff

[pliant karma]

when your forget to bring the charger for your dell xps lol

[jagged juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hiddleson-onejob-one-job-you-gif-12206874

[pliant karma]

At least I have a 100w charger that’ll work even though the laptop will complain it’s low wattage

[polar steeple]

Yeah I could probably configure pfsense at this point but that's about the extent of it

[pliant karma]

100w on the bottom 2, 20w on the top and that usb does 18w

[fossil frost]

its pretty shocking and irritating that 6th/7th gen intel motherboards are still quite expensive, even second hand

[pliant karma]

Ngl that power plug is not bad. I use to bring quite a few of them when I travel overseas but now this and adapter and some cables. Lightens my load

Downside it doesn’t work on plane outlets

[polar steeple]

You're splitting off some of the wattage available to the 100w port by having other stuff plugged into the 20W

[pliant karma]

Yea I mainly use the 100w ports half the time. Mostly phone charging or my go pro batteries

[fossil frost]

not always... some PSUs claim 100w total.. some claim 100w to the 100w port, plus 20 to each 20 port, but advertise as 100w

[pliant karma]

when the charger for your canon LP-E6 batteries is usb and not usbc

[jagged juniper]

Woot package arrived

[polar steeple]

I'd love to see one that actually puts out 100, 20, and 20. I've never seen one

[pliant karma]

But I brought like 10 batteries so I can last like 4 days off them if I don’t hemorrhage through 3 batteries in one day of travel like I did today

[fossil frost]

my lenovo one can put 240w to the laptop, plus 100w to the usb-c, and 20w to each of the standard type-a ports 😄

[polar steeple]

Not in that form factor at least

[fossil frost]

it did cost £600 though

[polar steeple]

Yeahhhhhhh lol

[wraith sonnet]

does anyone remember that russian based horror game that's basically vaporware?

[polar steeple]

Rust

[wraith sonnet]

Can't remember the name of it

there was an xbox based trailer for it?

[vapid smelt]

Russia bad

[wraith sonnet]

also it's not released

kinda saw-esque

[fossil frost]

broken veil? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYnkWyU4FVc

[polar steeple]

Splatterhouse

So speaking of Russians and games

[wraith sonnet]

not broken veil

[polar steeple]

I want to get into modding GTA 4 and was surprised to learn how prevalent support for Russian is for all the mod tools

Apparently our Russian friends are still out there banging GTA 4 hard

[fossil frost]

a lot of modding came from Russia and Russian speaking countries, in general, not just for GTA

[wraith sonnet]

ATOMIC HEART

[polar steeple]

Interesting. How come?

[fossil frost]

no idea, just seems to be a big thing there

[polar steeple]

I would have figured it'd be lead by users in Asia but I'll be honest I have no idea what it's like to be Russian and I wonder about it all the time

[muted relic]

I live in a part of Canada without an Ikea near me. Why is it so hard to find a computer desk with drawers?

[fossil frost]

build your own

[polar steeple]

You can order from ikea online

[muted relic]

Not here I can't

I'm near St. Johns

[fossil frost]

so by "a part of canada" do you mean the scientific outpost on the arctic ice sheet? 🙂

[muted relic]

They don't deliver off the main land it seems

I mean Newfoundland

[polar steeple]

I don't understand

Can you get packages at all there?

[fluid ridge]

openIV is russian no?

[polar steeple]

Ya along with a lot of other tools

[muted relic]

I can get Packages, but Ikea itself doesn't deliver here

[polar steeple]

I mean

[muted relic]

The closest store is in Halifax

[polar steeple]

It comes in a box

[fossil frost]

may be that its too expensive for them to send to there with their standard carrier, or, their standard carrier doesnt ship large parcels to there

[fluid ridge]

holy shit

you guys have wifi out there?

[muted relic]

Literally everything on their site says https://i.imgur.com/oQnvKOG.png

Currently unavailable

[fossil frost]

do you know anybody on the mainland that you can get it shipped to, and then have them forward it on to you

[muted relic]

Nope

[polar steeple]

That's wild. I'm gonna say if ikea can't ship there no one will ship there

[glass sphinx]

what slows down how fast i can use sftp to transfer files

[polar steeple]

Does Amazon?

[glass sphinx]

what does that depend on

[muted relic]

Amazon does, but there is no desks with drawers on their site

All i want is the two Alex + table top

That simple

[polar steeple]

Buy 2 matching sets of drawers and put a table top on it

The table top is probably the kicker but I feel likenyou can source that locally

[glass sphinx]

what does sftp speeds depend on

[polar steeple]

Deez

[glass sphinx]

cause i got 27k files to transfer to a server

[polar steeple]

Why do you need it to be fast

[glass sphinx]

im on a deadline

[fossil frost]

sftp is a fancy name for file transfer over ssh, if you SSH into a server, and use something like rsync, it should be able to saturate your connection

[glass sphinx]

i only got sftp for the server

no ssh sadly

[fossil frost]

best bet, if you can... tar.gz all the files... send the lot as 1 big file, and have them extracted at the other end

removes all the overhead of lots of little files

[glass sphinx]

the server surprisingly wont let me unzip files on it

[fossil frost]

then you are boned, and will have to suffer the overhead of transferring a bunch of small files 😄

[glass sphinx]

i just wanna use my discord bot

and get it online

[fossil frost]

so... there is no real deadline, you can get it up and running whenever you feel like

[glass sphinx]

there is a partial deadline

the devs need it on the server in 2 hours

[polar steeple]

Lol

[fossil frost]

best get started then

[glass sphinx]

im on 26k files left

i started 2 hours ago lol

and only 1/3 of the files are uploaded

[fossil frost]

im gonna do some quick back of the napkin maths... and say that you are probably going to miss that 2hr deadline

[glass sphinx]

plus it took an hour for the server to let me connect

[fossil frost]

probably best to not watch the files transferring, its common knowledge that if you watch a set of files being transferred, it goes slower

[polar steeple]

Watched pot never boils

What sort of discord bot has 50k assets lol

[polar fern]

Files get transfer shy when you watch the progress bar

[polar steeple]

Her: The files are so...big

The files: don't watch me undress

Google Maps just boomed me

[fluid ridge]

did you know all of google's code is apparently in one giant repository

[glass sphinx]

wait what

[jagged juniper]

This screwdriver kicks my Husky's butt

[fluid ridge]

yeah, however many billion lines it is

"How does Google maintain its codebase?
Ninety-five percent of Google's software developers worldwide work on a shared, monolithic codebase maintained through a centralized source control system, using a trunk-based development model."

im going to assume monolithic means single here

[fossil frost]

odd, since android is in its own set of repositories, different repo per project within the solution. chromium, and the chrome layer on top of that, also different repos

[fluid ridge]

interesting

[manic torrent]

Hogwash

[fluid ridge]

its what the web says

[manic torrent]

Google as in the search engine? Sure, I believe it.

[fluid ridge]

maybe that then

[manic torrent]

And chromeOS, and etc etc

[fossil frost]

was gonna say the same, i would believe that search+image search+news search+other search stuff, would be in a giant repo, but all other apps would be in their own app repo

[fluid ridge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monorepo

[manic torrent]

Monolithic is the opposite to modular

[fluid ridge]

apparently a lot of big tech companies use monorepos

[indigo plume]

my 7900xt has been stuck in customs for 4 days

was planning on finishing build this week

[fossil frost]

microsoft is listed there, and microsoft have individual repos for individual dlls in windows... nevermind individual PARTS of windows

[fluid ridge]

https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/7/204032-why-google-stores-billions-of-lines-of-code-in-a-single-repository/fulltext?mobile=t this goes a bit more in depth in it

[fluid ridge]

maybe it's referring to something else then

[indigo plume]

wrong linl

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8wsFg My new build have all the parts but the gpu

[manic torrent]

Oh, it's possibly a master codebase, and releases/betas/etc are pushed

[indigo plume]

and case

[manic torrent]

There are a lot of ways to store, manage, and release software and its dependancies.

[fossil frost]

so rather than a PR to main/master, you "pr" to the main repo (instead of branch). and all release work is done from there?

[manic torrent]

Yeah, it makes sense.

[fossil frost]

git without the branches (or maybe with the branches too) because technically, thats what git does... you fork a repo, make changes, create a PR to a master repo

so rather than "google is special for doing this" it should say "google does the same thing as everyone else, but just has fuck loads more code"

[manic torrent]

Yeah exactly. But to do it otherwise in one repo requires fine grained permissions, which is a huge pain

[manic torrent]

Yeah. As a rule, there is no magic.

[full fossil]

@stoic beacon I am mudding a 12ft tall wall rn

[vapid smelt]

smh child labor

[fossil frost]

So, the day after getting TKO'ed by a 19 year old Swedish girl, Andrew Tate decided he would get back, up and TKO himself with his piss poor come back... and then... on top of that... get arrested in Romania for child s-- trafficking offences.. BECAUSE.... he revealed his location on twitter and that allowed the Romanian authorities found out he was in the country when he shouldn't be

[vapid smelt]

pizza box

[fossil frost]

thats probably the best part... somebody probably scrolling through looking for stuff. then suddenly did a double take "wtf... THATS WHERE I GET MY PIZZA FROM TOO?!"

[median geyser]

I actually qualify for the job as Customer Service Representative (Temporary Contract, 3 months). However, I dont have a drivers licence... what do you guys think?

[fossil frost]

doesnt matter what we think. you just apply and find out

worst that can happen is you waste half a hour filling out an application to be told no

[dusky patrol]

So that minivan vid is pretty cool

[manic torrent]

Perfect

[dusty rune]

romanian authorities do something good for once

and not just abuse their power

[fossil frost]

can remove the word "romanian" there and it will still be accurate

[dusty rune]

i cant speak for other countries

[full fossil]

I’m getting paid in ice cream

You know I’m getting a large

[opaque mantle]

Oh, the best way, hope they don't cheap out and get you an Aldi home brand one.

If someone was to pay me in Aldi frozen stuff give me the French cheese cake

[small zephyr]

red dead online worth buying standalone?

[full fossil]

We’re going out

[small zephyr]

aldi homebrand stuff is great be it hardware or foods

foods are just rebranded brand products while their medion stuff is always great as well

[finite cloud]

The whole game is available for $20 on steam until January

So you might as well buy that. It’s a good game

[small zephyr]

i still have 7bucks on ps store and dont wanna spen more as 3 bucks on top already spend to much on games xD

if the whole game was 10bucks cheaper i would go for it

[finite cloud]

Oh you’re on PlayStation. Well in that case not sure

[small zephyr]

its 20 on sale as well tho

but welp yes spend to much money on my ps4 already i mean i needed to buy a new hdd as well

[finite cloud]

I haven’t played online just the story

[small zephyr]

🤨 im still confused i got gta v on psn

i swore to never buy anything from rockstar again to be true their customer support sucks and they are dicks

my gta account on pc got stolen that dick hacked and got me baned wrote to support and their answer was basicly: haha

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-point-homer-simpson-simpsons-nelson-muntz-gif-16163203

like they just laughed at me and did nothing rockstar doesnt unban ppl from gta online

and if there 1. a whole game basicly gone and 2. hundreds of hours of progres gone.... ooof just my is rockstar so unser unfriendly

[frozen helm]

FOR ANYONE THAT GOES TO SCHOOL use this https://swamp-mocha.vercel.app/ to bypass GoGaurdian and Securly

[small zephyr]

ooof i done with school for around 7-8years now

[dusty rune]

i go to school and dont use those

[frozen helm]

dam

[full fossil]

why would you want to bypass it

[vapid smelt]

damn* dam is for rivers

im cooper

[fluid ridge]

kind of your fault

[small zephyr]

nope i had 2fa with my email wich got 2fa with my phone

[fluid ridge]

nice, you got your email compromised too

and your phone number

[small zephyr]

nope without my phone you cant come into my email, cuz if i someone tries to login i get a sms

and im 100% sure my email didnt got compromised\

[vapid smelt]

should have used todays sponsor password manger shit or something

[small zephyr]

dude i got the worst memory ever like i cant even remember what i ate an hour ago i use password manager

rockstar just had some security hole or something cuz im 100% sure my email is clean

seing how rockstar got hacked and data about gta stolen seems possible

i mean didnt they even stole the source code for gta6?

[crystal mirage]

well if you had 2fa there should've been no chance of someone signing in without accessing your email

[small zephyr]

thats why im all so more angry about it cuz its for sure not my fault in this point

[crystal mirage]

unless rockstar themselves went on your social club account (very unlikely) it either didn't happen or ur email got/has been compromised

[full fossil]

Wait your name is cooper?

That makes so much sense how did I not think of that

[vapid smelt]

YEAH

[full fossil]

[vapid smelt]

why do you think i misspelled koopa

[full fossil]

Cooper is not the kind of guy that could date my mother

[hollow pulsar]

What

[full fossil]

Cooper is what you name the kid when you hate him

[full fossil]

Date*

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-again-someday-loki-tom-hiddleston-db-cooper-gif-22022648

[hollow pulsar]

I mean, nice save? Lol

[full fossil]

I hope not :)

[vapid smelt]

for being land locked she.... 🐟

[full fossil]

Yo mamas land locked

[dapper lintel]

any opinion on those standing desks by flexi?

[vapid smelt]

brb making a dam at the southern utah border to block water accesses to Arizona

[full fossil]

You won’t

[crystal mirage]

I would like to remind you that water access is a basic universal human right

[hollow pulsar]

You would think that would be the case…

[crystal mirage]

that was quick

[full fossil]

damn girl

[hollow pulsar]

Thats a really river-looking lake

[full fossil]

You asshole

[old crag]

Two cpus and two motherboards later pc still ain’t booting 🔥🔥

[crystal mirage]

that's cool

do you have a power supply to go with all of that?

[old crag]

Yes

I think that’s what needs to be replaced

[vapid smelt]

have you tried installing it correctly

[old crag]

I’ve tried probably everything I’ve seen on the internet heard from people in other servers

[vapid smelt]

maybe something was doa

[old crag]

Yeah my friend is giving me a psu to try

[vapid smelt]

what mbo and cpu?

[old crag]

First combo I used was asus prime b560 a with i5 11400, then I tried the new mobo I got today which is the msi msg z590, then I tried the z590 with a i5 10400

[vapid smelt]

Strang combos

[old crag]

Meh

[vapid smelt]

with the 10400 build is that the one not posting?

[old crag]

None have been posting but yes that’s what I currently have in

[vapid smelt]

wait the 11400 pc isnt working too?

[old crag]

Correct

That’s why I’m guessing it’s the psu

The fans spin for a second then stop

I doubt it the cpu, just replaced mobo, and I don’t think it would be ram

[vapid smelt]

i find a blood sacrifice works

[fervent oracle]

anyone know why people are selling off their Asus pg35vq monitors for cheap now?

3440x1440 200hz, i dont see anywhere about anytihng similar being released anytime soon

[vapid smelt]

ew va

not even ips

for 2 grand

[fervent oracle]

ips cant do the specs thats why

idk did a quick google and it says va panel is better at contrast than ips

so what do u mean ew va

[vapid smelt]

VA isnt bad, i just see it more in cheaper or mid rang monitors not ones that cost 2,000

[fervent oracle]

well ok anyways

its for sale rn for like 700$

and im thinking if i want it

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PrBG3C/alienware-aw3423dw-342-3440-x-1440-175-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dw to go oled probably

[manic torrent]

Yeah get that instead

[fervent oracle]

idk that 1 is just worse and more expensive

mainly looking at hz , and its like 1k$ minimum

[vapid smelt]

then go 1080p 360hz 😛

[fervent oracle]

no im staying to 1440p

i dont need higher than 200hz but i dont want lower than 200hz

i have the samsung g9 5120x1440 240hz monitor but kinda have been looking at the pg35vq as a side monitor with better colors etc hopefully from the specs i read about

[vapid smelt]

a side monitor that you wont use for gaming?!

[fervent oracle]

its more a productivity monitor

so yeah sure i wont use it for gaming i guess

i just need screen space at high hz and something with better colors

[vapid smelt]

wtf do you need 200hz?!

[fervent oracle]

cos mouse movement feels sluggish af at anything below 165hz

165hz is okay for side monitor but for main i need 200hz+

[vapid smelt]

if you can feel and see a difference of refresh rate over 165hz you should become a professional gamer

[fervent oracle]

been there done that no thanks XD

idk im just considering changing out my asus pg279q for the pg35vq

i also have a 100hz pg348q which is just on my server cos its way too low hz

[warm glacier]

hello

[fervent oracle]

its possible i can sell the pg348q for 250$ making the pg35vq essentially only cost 350$. so theres that but im not sure still

[runic lagoon]

Honestly it’s like 4k. You don’t notice it till you have it.

[manic torrent]

Hz is not Hz. You need to understand how these things work

[fervent oracle]

i understand how these things work lol

[manic torrent]

Yeah I don't think so

[fervent oracle]

i have 7 monitors of different variety i use for 3 different pcs and servers

so yes i think so XD

[manic torrent]

Yeah nah

[fervent oracle]

ok you tell me then what i supposedly dont understand

[manic torrent]

Refresh rate is how many times a second it updates, but response time is how quickly it updates

[fervent oracle]

im aware of that

[runic lagoon]

That new oled with .01 ms. I’m curious if it’s better then 360 hz. Just because less smearing.

[vapid smelt]

Qd oled pixel response time is 0.1mz VA is about 5ms

[manic torrent]

You can have lower Hz and a better UFO test result

[fervent oracle]

i had a garbage 120hz monitor with garbage response time i sold cos my 100hz monitor was faster some 8 years ago

[manic torrent]

So my 4k120 OLED is more responsive than a higher refresh VA

[severe otter]

anyone use openrgb? is it safe?

[manic torrent]

Openrgb killed my brother

[severe otter]

i am serious this gigabyte rgbfusion software is the worst

[fervent oracle]

my monitor samsung g9 used to only be able to run on 120hz due to firmware something something with specific gpus.
i hated it
and its still the same response time to the 240hz update

so i know how it works

[vapid smelt]

isnt ghosting more of a problem on VA too

[manic torrent]

Openrgb is fine. Signalrgb is also an option

[manic torrent]

Yeah, hence UFO test

[severe otter]

signalrgb doesnt support most of my stuff

im stuck to openrgb or rgbfusion

[manic torrent]

... you hated 120hz and couldn't deal with it.

[fervent oracle]

yes? i cant deal with anything below 165hz and 165hz is only for side monitors

atleast for when on my productivity / gaming pcs

[vapid smelt]

my side monitors are 60hz

[fervent oracle]

i would die

XD

[manic torrent]

According to every blind study, you're an absolute freak

[fervent oracle]

wat

[manic torrent]

Most people couldn't tell the difference

[fervent oracle]

yeah "most people" meaning not eveyrone

[vapid smelt]

for web browsing and media consumption i dont give a fuck if its 60 or 240hz

[manic torrent]

Yes, hence freak

[fervent oracle]

i seen a couple ltt videos about it where the sample size is 10 to 15 people and 1 to 2 could noticed a difference

Thats 10%. thats huge

[manic torrent]

I have never met or even heard of anyone who insisted on 165 for productivity

[hollow pulsar]

Were they squinting and unsure?

[manic torrent]

Notice the difference while fps gaming, and saying 165hz minimum is very different

[fervent oracle]

litteraly just moving the mouse on the desktop feels weird as if something is wrong if below 165hz.

[manic torrent]

I mean I prefer higher, but 60hz is fine for random desktop stuff.

[fervent oracle]

it works sure but it feels like something is wrong

[vapid smelt]

its not like your going to get motion sickness using google at 60hz

[fervent oracle]

not so sure about that coopa XD

[somber minnow]

using chrome at 360hz>60hz

[manic torrent]

Also given that 10 years ago, it was 60hz or.... 60hz

[fervent oracle]

you had no choice at that time, no one knew better or had tried anything different

[manic torrent]

Not true 🙂

[fervent oracle]

10 years ago is not long enough ago so yeah true

[manic torrent]

No I am talking about CRT

[vapid smelt]

25 years ago it was 85hz or what ever your crt could reach 😦

[manic torrent]

Yep.

[fervent oracle]

oh im aware crt is way different
im talking different flat screen tech

[vapid smelt]

down grading monitors for slimness and weight

[fervent oracle]

well people didnt know any better when doing that either

"its new tech it has to be better" is peoples mentality

[hollow pulsar]

It's not that they "didn't know any better". It's more that the "need" wasn't popular enough to justify the costs of manufacturing.

Not currently running an 8K monitor/TV? They exist. I guess we just don't know any better.

[fervent oracle]

wat

idk what ur trying to say

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HrK2FT/samsung-odyssey-g9-c49g97t-488-5120x1440-240-hz-monitor-lc49g97tssnxdc 48.8" 5120 x 1440 240 Hz 😛

[hollow pulsar]

It's a matter of perspective. Now vs. Future.

[fervent oracle]

thats my monitor right there coopa

[vapid smelt]

i hate ultra wide

[hollow pulsar]

You're here in yesterday's future saying folks just didn't know any better back then. I shifted that perspective to a future person looking back to today.

[manic torrent]

Spoken like someone who hasn't been to a LAN with two CRTs

[fervent oracle]

the general population have no idea whats good or not now or before

people upgraded away from crt before to flat screens not knowing that crts were still better at something
just because the new screens were flat

[manic torrent]

.... Dude CRTs were flat.

[vapid smelt]

they just had a thicc ass

[hollow pulsar]

uhh... could you link to a flat CRT? All the ones I've ever known were convex.

[fervent oracle]

i have never seen a crt that werent a giant box

[manic torrent]

.... That's flat at the front.

[fervent oracle]

people dont care about that tho.... they care that their new non crt screen takes up less space and ignores specs because the new flat screen is new

we are talking about the majority of the population, not tech knowledgeable people

[round flare]

The classic crt

A chunky boi

[runic lagoon]

CRT are huge with the vintage game crowd. ❤️

[hollow pulsar]

I'm a tech-knowledgable person and have been for the past 20 years. Can't say I've ever encountered a flat CRT and the article I read hints they started appearing around 2005, which is also when LCD's started to become popular.

[fervent oracle]

same

[vapid smelt]

early 2000 gamers going to 85-120hz "0ms" crts to 60hz 20ms+ flatscreens lcds

[manic torrent]

Flat screen

Because earlier CRTs were curved. Because physics and glass

A CRT cannot be thin, because it works with a scanning electron gun. It needs power and space to work.

[fervent oracle]

yes finaly excactly

[vapid smelt]

same with Americans we cant be thin because of our guns too

[manic torrent]

Yes, but CRTs in their final years were "flatscreen" in that the glass and picture was flat.

[fervent oracle]

"flat screen" means different things here to different people
for me it means that the entire monitor is thin compared to crt being a big square

[full fossil]

w

[manic torrent]

Yes, because you don't have historical context

[hollow pulsar]

For the record, when I said "flat CRT", I was referring to the screen - not the depth of the monitor. lol. Sorry if I miscommunicated that.

[manic torrent]

You did not - kids these days.

[fervent oracle]

? ? ?

[manic torrent]

Lol depth 13" - only because of the stand.

[fervent oracle]

let people correct themselves and leave it at that. assume people talk their truth

[full fossil]

remember: if a kid upsets you and talks about CRTs badly, tell them to touch the flyback transformer

we do a little trolling

[manic torrent]

Just find a nice big cap

[hollow pulsar]

Always fun to turn off a CRT TV/Monitor, swipe your hand across the screen, then touch a sibling.

[full fossil]

oh even better, steal the cap from a microwave and make sure its fully charged

[lament junco]

They will be shocked

[full fossil]

indeed

[runic lagoon]

Those hurt 💀 talking as some one who got shocked a couple times by them.

[hollow pulsar]

Doesn't the magnetron discharge after being powered off?

[lament junco]

how are you still alive

[runic lagoon]

Shortest path to ground.

[full fossil]

the magnetron is the tube that generates microwaves, the only part retaining a charge would be the capacitor

[manic torrent]

The best monitors had degaussing built in - either on turn on only, or with a button. Great way to troll noobs is to stick a magnet next to the screen, run the degaussing, then move the magnet

[lament junco]

Luckily not through the heart

[full fossil]

if it had a discharge resistor it would discharge

[lament junco]

Is it true you can discharge a cap fast by shorting the 2 ends?

[vapid smelt]

clearly he doesn't have one that's how he lived 😛

[full fossil]

yes but its not good for it

[hollow pulsar]

I thought the magnetron was functioning as a capacitor. Just watched a video on this the other day. Though, who knows if my source of authority is correct - I'm not an Electrical Engineer, and especially not one well-versed in Microwave technology for heating food.

[lament junco]

[full fossil]

yeah a magnetron is basically just a vacuum tube that generates microwaves

i haven't really looked into how it works, microwaves are black magic

[lament junco]

I remember our crt tv was flat, but it was still thick

[full fossil]

sure i have my technician's license but i'm still an idiot lol

[lament junco]

I remember it was a Sony

[full fossil]

i wonder if i should get on the local repeater sometime

i haven't gotten on in over a year

lost interest

[full fossil]

i think we had a flatscreen crt when i grew up

we didn't get an actual LCD until about 2009

[lament junco]

We only got rid of it in like 2016

[runic lagoon]

It’s been a while but: flyback transformer, high voltage wire, anode, anode aperture, there more. 😂

[lament junco]

And have been using a Samsung “smart” tv

[full fossil]

i never understood smart tvs

[lament junco]

We have a chromecast attached to it

Cuz it’s a old smart tv

Can’t even install YouTube

[runic lagoon]

I don’t think they’re that smart.

[lament junco]

So chromecast was the solution

[full fossil]

if i wanna watch tv i'll just hook a yagi up and point the antenna towards civilization

[lament junco]

Works great

[lament junco]

Paper clip

[full fossil]

even my really old samsung smart TV had youtube

[full fossil]

very poor antenna, yagi has alot more gain

it also had 3D 💀

[runic lagoon]

Starlink 🚀

[full fossil]

i made my own yagi, it has about 9dBi of gain

[lament junco]

😳

[indigo plume]

this might be a hot take but imo amd is just as anti consumer as nvidia

[full fossil]

ew satellite TV

[lament junco]

Ew cable tv

[full fossil]

Ew cable TV as well

[full fossil]

i actually wanna get an FTA box and try pointing at galaxy 19 with a Ku LNB and see what channels i get

I don't like live TV

[lament junco]

Just watch Linus tech tips

[full fossil]

fr

[lament junco]

100 times better than real tv

[full fossil]

i have a linear and circular LNB, both work but i can only mount the circular one on my dish unfortunately

floatplen supremacy

[lament junco]

.com tho

[full fossil]

i basically never watch tv

[full fossil]

try making a SDR

[indigo plume]

I used to trust amd till 7000 gpu release

[lament junco]

YouTube

[runic lagoon]

🤘🏻

[full fossil]

already did that with what was a crystal radio i built, a tuneable AM antenna and a 2n2222a

I watch with piracy and subscription services , No real TV

i got a canadian AM station in 655 miles away

[lament junco]

W

[full fossil]

poggers

[lament junco]

A 222 what

[full fossil]

haven't had real TV in 6 years

it was an accidental regenerative receiver

[full fossil]

common npn transistor

loll

[lament junco]

What

[runic lagoon]

That seems common. People just using smartphones.

[full fossil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor

[full fossil]

no i have a TV and projector , just not live TV

[lament junco]

Considering it costs 100 bucks or more each month for like 100 channels but you only watch 5 of them

[full fossil]

imagine not being able to choose what to watch and when and paying more anyways

[full fossil]

bipolar transistors are quite common and the 2n2222a is cheap and works for alot of things

i wanna try making a radio with a mosfet though to see if it would work

I wanna make a pirate radio

[full fossil]

imagine paying for tv

[full fossil]

enjoy 10,000 usd fine

[full fossil]

not in the US

if the power's low though and it only goes a few hundred feet i doubt anyone would give a shit

[full fossil]

exactly

I'll use raspberry pi without any amplification

if the pi can even output those frequencies you're gonna need an antenna that has a really low SWR to get anything out with mere milliwatts

[full fossil]

with a normal wire of 10cm ish I can get about 10-15 feet

[lament junco]

Use paper clip

[full fossil]

that's not resonant at 60MHz

[lament junco]

English please

[full fossil]

intellect please

[lament junco]

Brains off rn

[full fossil]

try turning it off and on again

[full fossil]

the antenna would need to be about 4 feet long for a 1/4 wave at 60MHz

[lament junco]

Lemme look up the def

[lament junco]

(of sound) deep, clear, and continuing to sound or ring?

[full fossil]

I want 93.5mhz

a paperclip would only really have gain at like 800MHz probably

[full fossil]

what country are you in?

🇮🇳

ah, yeah i'm not sure what your channel layouts are like but if that's the case you could prolly find a 1/4 wave FM antenna easily

does india use OIRT FM or something weird?

in most countries 93 is in the lower half of the FM broadcast band

[full fossil]

don't see why india would as they weren't part of the USSR

[full fossil]

it's 88-108 here I think

yeah then it wouldn't make sense for tv unless you're trying it on fm first?

[full fossil]

I mean FM radio

like just sound , not TV

ah

yeah you can easily find FM antennas around or if not, make an 80cm long wire

ye lemme find a wire

what about a half wave antenna?

1/4 for this would be better

if you also need a ground radial i'd just make a dipole tbh

alriight

time to rickroll

https://k5hh.com/dipole-calculator/

[full fossil]

prolly can't get very far tho , the station I'll try overlapping has a 10kw antenna

ah yeah

you'll be lucky to get across the room

[full fossil]

I'll try an emptry freq then , can I just tape the wires to my wall btw 💀

as long as its not metal yes

also as long as there aren't pipes or wiring in the wall bc the antenna could capacitively couple

[full fossil]

there is one 220v wire

all my walls have wires

concrete walls tho

[full fossil]

if there's rebar that could present issues

[gritty forge]

Anyone got any suggestions for a 3D printer?

[full fossil]

[full fossil]

take a regular printer and add 2 more for the y and z axis, use magic and it'll print in a 3d way

[gritty forge]

Thats, wow uhm okay.

[full fossil]

you have to use magic though, if you don't use magic it'll just print 3 pieces of paper

the printers might also fall over

[gritty forge]

I'm trying to get a different one since my Ender 3 isn't properly working and their support sucks

[full fossil]

ah

i dont really have experience with them so i can't do much

[vapid smelt]

is black magic allowed?

[full fossil]

yes

human sacrifices if needed but its not preferrable

it may have unforseen consequences

[manic torrent]

haha, pointed my aircon at the PC, the 3080ti is idling at 26 degrees 🙂

[red hearth]

whos ready for ces 2023

its just gettin closer and closer

[runic lagoon]

I hope it’s better then 2022

[red hearth]

for asus it shud be

they did wayy too good in 2022

alienware dissapointed me

[runic lagoon]

Asus makes good gpus

[red hearth]

yea that true

[vapid smelt]

no

[runic lagoon]

#1027757333117415424

[vapid smelt]

Apple Sauce Apple Pie

[full fossil]

fr

[vapid smelt]

That took you way to long to type out

just use your pc then

[fluid ridge]

have you tried buying a new computer

it fixes 100% of the issues you will have

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[fluid ridge]

you're welcome

there's no need to thank me

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/jar-jar-binks-how-rude-rude-star-wars-pissed-gif-17565387

[graceful burrow]

ill thank him

[manic torrent]

you're not wrong

[vapid smelt]

sounds like you spent too much on rgb

if i wanted a bad laptop i would go to the landfill to get one for free

[graceful burrow]

help with what

[vapid smelt]

we charge $20 per question

[vapid smelt]

upfront

[remote whale]

Damn you charge more than twitter blue

[vapid smelt]

well i cant collect and sell user data :\

[neon mesa]

Is deepcool pf450 a bomb or good enough

My little brother got scrapyard RX 570 system and the current psu can't handle the card

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/atf2-gif-19111110

[remote whale]

What's the cpu?

[neon mesa]

I'd get a decent PSU if it's my own system lel

I3-3220

[remote whale]

It should be fine

150W + 65W

[vapid smelt]

@neon mesa https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ tier E aka bomb

[remote whale]

Oh

[neon mesa]

Problem is because my brother is only 13 and his PC is already dirt cheap
Can't get much budget for PSU

His savings already dead from buying the RX 570

[vapid smelt]

I3-3220 with a 570

now that a bottle neck

[neon mesa]

It's not a custom build

It's an old prebuilt

Can always upgrade to i7-3770 when possible

[vapid smelt]

did he already have alike a dell 2 core i3 and slapped a rx 570 in it?

[fluid ridge]

have you tried buying a new computer

[fluid ridge]

whats the point of keeping such old systems?

[neon mesa]

He got a prebuilt from a relative
Slapped 128GB SSD in it and Rx 570

[fluid ridge]

may as well buy a rasberry pi

[neon mesa]

Because it's free?

[fluid ridge]

it would fix your problem

[neon mesa]

What's your solution here...
For a 13 year old to whip out $1000 out of thin air?

Well because i won't pay for his shit for sure

[fluid ridge]

you're 13?

[neon mesa]

Not me my brother

[vapid smelt]

sell his plasma

[fluid ridge]

oh

well i didnt mean to diss you by any means i was just curious what the point to having a computer with ddr2 ram and 300mb of storage

[neon mesa]

i3-3220 is DDR3

[vapid smelt]

2 core 4 threads

[fluid ridge]

i guess that's an improvement

[neon mesa]

And it got 8GB

Of RAM

[fluid ridge]

im pretty sure the raspberry pis have the same 😟

[neon mesa]

Except the Pi is more useless

It's ARM

[fluid ridge]

arm can go hard if done right

apple's M series for example

[neon mesa]

And the pi isn't one

[fluid ridge]

but the pi is also like 60 bucks

[neon mesa]

And can't be upgraded

And my brother got the prebuilt for free

And can't run proper windows

[fluid ridge]

free is always better than not free

[neon mesa]

There's a reason linus $69 gaming PC isn't just a pi

Because pi is ass

[vapid smelt]

my steam deck would stomp your little bros pc

[neon mesa]

At 5x price

[vapid smelt]

[neon mesa]

If only his little dumbass don't get affected by modern microtransaction

Dude spends his bank on mobile legens skin, valorant skins, and robux

[south stone]

Why are the ceiling fan blades not the shape of 'airflow' coolers?

[fluid ridge]

based brother

[vapid smelt]

your parents allowed him to?!

[fluid ridge]

when i was his age i was gambling all my money away on csgo cases

[neon mesa]

It's his own cash

[tepid bolt]

Get the cheapest C tier psu you can find.

[vapid smelt]

buying pretty pixels

[south stone]

Adata xpg 850w gold is tier S

[leaden gale]

Obligatory reminder that the Switch runs on an ARM chip

[south stone]

iirc.

[neon mesa]

It feels wrong when my 3060 cost more than his whole build

[south stone]

this nintendo elon musk putting chips on arms... 😦

[fluid ridge]

i said if done right

[leaden gale]

I know, that's why I said it

[neon mesa]

Obligatory reminder that switch is shit

[steel marsh]

didnt nivadia try and buy arm but it got blocked

[fluid ridge]

truly a tragedy

[steel marsh]

ye

[runic lagoon]

🧠 chips plus explain a lot…

[steel marsh]

also all of the animals

[leaden gale]

Your opinion is meaningless in the grand scheme of things

[steel marsh]

switch is competely fine

[neon mesa]

Latest pokemon would like a word

[vapid smelt]

the switch is so damn old

[neon mesa]

Even a shit laptop beats the shitty tegra

[steel marsh]

it is

[tepid bolt]

steam deck exists so switch is outclassed

[runic lagoon]

Every conversation could be about Nihilism

[steel marsh]

but the thing you buy a switch for is nintendo games

[fluid ridge]

imagine starting a company and building it up for years and making a name for yourself just so when you're about to reap the rewards and sell, some bureaucratic agency from some country that your not from says "wait a minute you cant do that!"

cockblocked from billions

[tepid bolt]

Steam deck can emulate them too

[leaden gale]

Steam Deck didn't exist until 5 years into the Switch's lifecycle though.

[steel marsh]

but some people dont bother with that

[leaden gale]

He speaks only truth

[fluid ridge]

i believe that's against nintendo TOS

[steel marsh]

all you wanna do play smash with your buddies

[tepid bolt]

What isn't against Nintendo TOS

[vapid smelt]

switch

[steel marsh]

or mario p[arty

[leaden gale]

With all due respect, Nintendo's ToS can kiss my ass

[runic lagoon]

The early switch was just a gaming pc. 😂 like at the gaming expos. Showing off Zelda.

[leaden gale]

It's my hardware, and I'll do whatever the fuck I want with it

[tepid bolt]

Making your own fan-game (with completely custom assets and non-profit) is against Nintendo ToS

[steel marsh]

i mean all you want is nintendo games

[fluid ridge]

yeah but it's not your software

[steel marsh]

well latest ones

[fluid ridge]

👀

[runic lagoon]

That’s so stupid. Like no Indy games for them.

[fluid ridge]

that's like saying "i own the car so ill drive wherever i want"

[leaden gale]

Tough shit, their problem

[fluid ridge]

[neon mesa]

Emulating a switch requires dumping an existing cartridge

[tepid bolt]

Say that to the people who got a cease and desist from Nintendo for trying to make a fan game of a 30 year old game.

[steel marsh]

there some indy games on the switch

[neon mesa]

Soooo it is technically using your copy of the software which you own

[leaden gale]

AM2R moment

[fluid ridge]

the average "I don't want to be sued so I'm going to follow the rules" guy vs the gigachad "fuck you im playing smash" sigma

[leaden gale]

Yeah, I homebrewed my Wii to play Project M. Problem?

[neon mesa]

90% of a PC are heatsinks

[steel marsh]

wha

[neon mesa]

Think about it for a moment

[leaden gale]

That's not quite how the math works out

[tepid bolt]

Clearly you haven't seen the inside of an average gaming laptop

[leaden gale]

At least half of it is a battery

[tepid bolt]

Shit is 50% battery, 40% plastic and 10% heatsink

[leaden gale]

95C moment

[gilded quest]

Lies

[tepid bolt]

Atleast is portable amirite 🔥

[gilded quest]

My ROG laptop only goes to 94C

[echo ridge]

oh god

[leaden gale]

Goated with the swaus

[tepid bolt]

Tell him to buy a gtx 9800 to go with it.

[gilded quest]

This server?

[leaden gale]

You know what? Fuck that guy, I hope he plugs his EPS connector in sideways.

[neon mesa]

50% battery, 40% plastic, 8% fans, 2% heatsink

[echo ridge]

no

[gilded quest]

Rip

Tell them their logic is sound

[steel marsh]

eh

maybe dont be an ass

to a newbie

[tepid bolt]

But big number better

[gilded quest]

This goes against everything I believe in

[steel marsh]

thats not a good way to try educate and get people into the hobby

[neon mesa]

Samsung and them going all the way to S20: this logic is perfect

[fluid ridge]

i mean hes not wrong

generally bigger number and cheaper = better

[tepid bolt]

Imagine when he realizes windows 2000 exists

[leaden gale]

What server

[gilded quest]

Have they figured out it's because the 6600k is half a decade older?

[echo ridge]

bapo

[tepid bolt]

Y'all mfs on Win 11 when win 98 is already out 💀💀💀

[neon mesa]

Win 2000 users

[fluid ridge]

why did microsoft name their operating systems after years for so long and just decide "fuck it we going chronologically now"

[vapid smelt]

Bring a Proud Oyster

[fluid ridge]

where is windows 22

[modern terrace]

2032

[neon mesa]

They only named it after years for a few times

[leaden gale]

Board a Protestant Orbiter

[neon mesa]

95, 98, ME, 2000

[tepid bolt]

Eyo where GTX 11xx-19xx at

[neon mesa]

Then it becomes XP and Vista.. then suddenly 7

[fluid ridge]

was windows 7 not named after 2007?

[neon mesa]

Win 7 is 2009

It's windows 7 because it's the 7th major release technically

[leaden gale]

Yes

[neon mesa]

1, 3(2), 95(3), 98(4), XP(5), Vista (6), 7

[tepid bolt]

Don't let this distract you from the fact the Titan V exists.

The forgotten Titan card

[neon mesa]

A titanic failure

[steel marsh]

the volta

also the Titan XP and the Titan Xp

[tepid bolt]

Titan X(P) and Titan Xp are Pascal

[vapid smelt]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2892-nvidia-titan-xp-review-vs-1080-ti-benchmark?showall=1 xp was shit

[steel marsh]

i know but its still confusing naming them the same thing

[leaden gale]

You mean the Titan X Pascal and Titan Xp

[leaden gale]

They didn't. The first one was literally just named Titan X, just like its predecessor.

Which is even more confusing.

[tepid bolt]

Titan X(M) owners when they draw a p on their GPU

[steel marsh]

titan v owners putting an extra II

[leaden gale]

Then NVIDIA did a fucky wucky with the 1080 Ti pricing, then put out the Titan Xp to save face, and made some cool Star Wars blower cards to capitalize.

[steel marsh]

so titan VII

[leaden gale]

The NVIDIA Radeon Titan VII

[velvet marsh]

I bought a 1080 and a 1080ti on launch for the same price at each launch lol

[echo ridge]

windows xp?

[steel marsh]

titan xp

[echo ridge]

xps 13?

xp points?

[gilded quest]

Realistically my 1080ti will probably be fine till 50-series/rdna4

[leaden gale]

"The 1080 Ti, a mistake NVIDIA will never make again."

• Steve Burke, Gamers Nexus

[tepid bolt]

Nvidia Radeon RTX GeForce RX
7090XTXTi

[leaden gale]

nVidia Radeon RTX 7990 XTX Ti SUPER

Looks like a board partner model name

[tepid bolt]

It was an anomaly card, the only one beforehand being back in 2006 with the 8800 gtx.

[leaden gale]

And we are forever blessed to have seen it.

[vapid smelt]

a card that could only be out done by the 2080ti or 2080 super

[tepid bolt]

What makes me sad is that with the release of RDNA2 and RDNA3 we've seen that AMD can only match Nvidia's last gen raytracing performance and unless they have a breakthrough it'll be that way till the end of time.

[leaden gale]

Which weren't well priced at all

[tepid bolt]

On the other hand though, if Nvidia can't figure out chiplet soon AMD is gonna make them eat dust with their raster perf.

[manic torrent]

mind you, ray tracing is still little more than a cool party trick.

[velvet marsh]

They said the same thing about tessellation

[vapid smelt]

$999 2080ti was a terrific deal wdym 😛

[manic torrent]

I'm not saying it will be forever.

[leaden gale]

Didn't the 2080 Ti launch at $1100

[tepid bolt]

20 series was Nvidia's raytracing beta testing gen.
RDNA3 is AMD's chiplet beta testing gen.
We may see Nvidia fall behind in raster in the same way AMD fell behind in raytracing.

[steel marsh]

525 for a used 2080 and sold it for 440

[manic torrent]

$500 for a used 3080ti

after paying $1100 for a new 3070

[steel marsh]

742 for msrp 3080 10gb

[leaden gale]

Where the fuck did you find that

[tepid bolt]

Gonna take a looong time until AAA releases are fully path traced

[vapid smelt]

a crack house

[neon mesa]

Problem is raster is getting to a point of diminishing return

Who the fuck needs 8k

4k don't even count as mainstream as per steam survey

[tepid bolt]

I think you're confusing raster with resolution

[vapid smelt]

old people with bad eyesight

[neon mesa]

No it's on point

Raster increase of performance only makes sense on high resolution

We don't need 1000 Fps on 1080p

[leaden gale]

And real-time RT isn't worth the 50% performance drop as it stands now, and won't be for quite a few years

[neon mesa]

And if AMD still keeps the "only useful for gaming" reputation it can't stay forever

[leaden gale]

You know what we do need? The same framerates with lower power draw. That only comes with increased raster perf.

[neon mesa]

Like i personall sold my 6600xt for 3060 because AMD can't give two fuck about productivity, or nvidia cuda simply monopolized

[velvet marsh]

Yeah the 3060 outperforms the 6900xt in a lot of productivity tasks

[tepid bolt]

Steam deck has the same performance as an i7 7700hq + 1050ti all on a 15w package. Imagine what gains extra raster performance can give.

[leaden gale]

NVIDIA did kinda monopolize with CUDA, though I believe Intel is gunning to shatter that state of affairs with OneAPI

[neon mesa]

Even people who mainly game still needs non gaming stuff once in a while. Simply making nvidia the only desirable option

[leaden gale]

It's literally a 15W Xbox One that actually outperforms the Xbox One.

[leaden gale]

Proud 1080 Ti owner, not once used a piece of software that benefited significantly from CUDA.

Most folks don't have workloads that benefit significantly from CUDA and that's a fact.

[neon mesa]

3d modelers and video editors

And damn seeing those productivity benchmark
AMD just pathetic on this

[tepid bolt]

RX 7900xtx beats 4090 in blender evee and Adobe premiere pro davinci resolve

[neon mesa]

Even if it's not CUDA AMD still sucked at it

[leaden gale]

Please tell me you're not saying this is representative of "most people"

[vapid smelt]

imagine getting a 3060 to generate anime people

[neon mesa]

Most people in this case is relevant
Most people only use pc for spreadsheets

[velvet marsh]

?

[neon mesa]

And browsing the web

[tepid bolt]

Resolve sorry not premiere pro

[neon mesa]

Okay? Next gen 1000$ card beaten by last gen x80 card

Not beaten, but close enough

But beaten hard in value for certain

[indigo plume]

why ppl praising amd when they both priced shitty

and amd cards havin issues

[vapid smelt]

both sides are

[indigo plume]

with overheating and drivers

and overlocking

[dense coral]

But not most people with a discreet GPU

That's what matters here

[neon mesa]

Overheating is more of an nvidia thing

[vapid smelt]

burning cards < software issues

[tepid bolt]

Don't buy reference ez

[velvet marsh]

The 4090 seems to have an issue with red/braw atm

[indigo plume]

110 degree hot spots

[tepid bolt]

.

[vapid smelt]

if thats junction temp thats ok

[indigo plume]

not when theres a big difference between edge temps

[tepid bolt]

The problem is that core temp is like 65c while Junction is 100c which means cooler isn't making proper contact.

[indigo plume]

I just think amd and nivida both did bad job this gen

[tepid bolt]

Powercolor models seem to be the ones affected more commonly, but it can happen to any reference model.

[indigo plume]

and should braise either

praise*

[vapid smelt]

fuck team green making a $1200 **80 card

[indigo plume]

1000 dollar card isnt much better from amd

[tepid bolt]

$800 xx70 card incoming btw

[indigo plume]

407o ti gunna be 799

4070ti

[tepid bolt]

Still an xx70

[echo ridge]

looks at my 3060 which is having multiple driver issues

[spiral zodiac]

any recommended psu brands?

[lament junco]

Evga

[echo ridge]

don't shop by brand

[tepid bolt]

Model > Brand

[indigo plume]

I just dont think giving amd credit just cuz they arent as bad as nivida makes sense whey they are both poorly priced

[spiral zodiac]

well i'm already looking at a 500-650w psu, so its more just picking which brand/model

i'm not going high end components anymore, so i dont need "ZOMG 1500W!"

[echo ridge]

what country

[spiral zodiac]

usa lol

[indigo plume]

I got the white 850 psu from corsair

for my build Im getting

[spiral zodiac]

yeah but i dont need 850w lol

even under load, i doubt i'll draw more than 450w

[lament junco]

https://a.co/d/5dYBDcw

[echo ridge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rfqBD3/thermaltake-smart-bm2-750-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0750mnfabu-1
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxvdnQ/nzxt-c-2022-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-pa-6g1bb-us

[spiral zodiac]

6700/6800xt, or if i go 7000 series, 7600/7700xt. nothing more.

[vapid smelt]

Same price as last gen 6900xt was 1k, unlike novideo

[spiral zodiac]

cpu, i'll be going with a 5800x3d most likely, so not even high end.

140w and like 200w combined for the two.

[echo ridge]

ehh you would want 750w for a 6800xt

[spiral zodiac]

thats if i went 6800xt, which i probably wont tbh lol

[full fossil]

Hi can someone help me with a simple wifi problem or is there a tech support thing

[echo ridge]

5800x3d not high end

[spiral zodiac]

not unless they drop below 400usd.

its still a massive upgrade over a 1070 non-ti lol

if not, i wait til the 7600 or 7700 comes out, and those are reported to be ~200w.

[echo ridge]

i would not put a 500w psu and 6700xt

[spiral zodiac]

6700xt is ~200w

[echo ridge]

traniests

[spiral zodiac]

transients? they're not nvidia level

[full fossil]

thanks.

[echo ridge]

they still exist

[spiral zodiac]

and a quality psu with decent caps will handle it fine.

[echo ridge]

ehhh

[spiral zodiac]

seems the 6700xt transients go up to 320w, so even that isnt that high. a 500w is enough for my build lol

if that wasnt true, then no psu could handle the 3080/3090 transient spikes.

[echo ridge]

a 850w can a handle

[spiral zodiac]

yeah but those transient spikes are something above 1kw if i recall

[echo ridge]

no

[full fossil]

Hola

[echo ridge]

and a x3d can pull 210 w

`

[spiral zodiac]

thats total system use

[spiral zodiac]

they even say that on their site

thats board, drives, psu efficiency, everything.

[inner crater]

yo guys wassup

[spiral zodiac]

https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph17337/128769.png

anandtech shows it at ~140w

well, for the non cache version.

[indigo plume]

wasnt 6900xt poorly priced on launch iirc

[echo ridge]

coopa would you use a 500w psu on a 6700xt and a 5800x3d

[vapid smelt]

650

[spiral zodiac]

so ~140w for cpu, and 320w for gpu. still 460w in the worst case scenario.

650w is even still overkill by a healthy margin

[echo ridge]

theres zero headroom for pbo

or upgrades

[spiral zodiac]

i'm going to be removing all hdd's from the system as well

since i'm going with a NAS that should give me a good 30-40tb of space lol.

[vapid smelt]

nah

[spiral zodiac]

i'll need one nvme, and thats it lol.

[tepid bolt]

Let the man buy a 500w psu lol, as long as it's an A or B tier it'll be fine.

[spiral zodiac]

30w for fans, 10w for nvme.

[echo ridge]

but it's basically the same price for a 650w

[spiral zodiac]

a better "tier" psu will also last longer with better components.

[spiral zodiac]

i was eyeing a nice seasonic 650w as an option.

[tepid bolt]

Seasonic is never nice

[spiral zodiac]

lol they always over rate psu's