public-chat

[little hollow]

I suppose it might be possible to offload the non-windows files onto a temporary drive, install windows on a newer, larger drive, then just plop the old files down in it

[hearty spear]

Why is everyone so afraid of reinstalling windows?!

[unkempt widget]

i don't want to

[little hollow]

honestly! its not a bad thing to do

[gilded plinth]

Reinstalling Windows is great (imo)

[hearty spear]

it's easy to do, and makes your computer run better

[vapid dove]

I was thinking about getting a Dell Latitude 5175, Intel Core M5-6Y57@1.10Ghz, 8GBram, 128GB SSD for a small compact laptop. Yes or No I Could get a chromebook for the same money.

[hearty spear]

considering how cheap chromebooks can get, you probably can, but honestly that sounds like a really painful laptop anyways

[vapid dove]

Why, whats Wrong

with it

[hearty spear]

very slow 2c processor, and 8gb ram

[vapid dove]

Most Chromebooks have 4gb thougth

[hearty spear]

is the 5175 a chromebook?

or is it running windows

[autumn moss]

yo i need best buget m.2

[vapid dove]

The one im buying has no os so i could get any os

I could go linux even

[hearty spear]

you want a lighter os, because that CPU is slow

so the less overhead the better

[vapid dove]

Ubuntu?

Windows 10

WINDOWS ME?

👿

[ripe patrol]

windows 95 ftw 😉

[little hollow]

back to the installing windows thing (had to take a work phone call). I had a hell of a time trying to install it on my machine (its finnicky). My Disk drive was busted, and the only other windows computer was a school laptop that didnt allow me to run any iso burners, I was stuck for like a month trying to find someone to burn me a copy of windows 🤣

[vapid dove]

Microsoft basic obvs

[ripe patrol]

wait wait - i shoulda said 3.11 wfwg lol

[vapid dove]

Anyway Should i get that or a chromebook

[hearty spear]

you'd have to pick based on what you want to do.
But it doesn't sound like you even know what you want it to do yet

[vapid dove]

Emails Youtube basic stuff tbh

word

[vapid dove]

Like opening 3 chrome tabs

[hearty spear]

then pretty much any OS will work, if all you want is a browser

[vapid dove]

Chromebook or Dell?

[jagged juniper]

Good Morning Nerds 🙂

[junior forge]

anyone from sweden? I'm in my holiday for 2 weeks in here and I need to get a nice cheap gaming monitor, any ideas of shops i can go at and get some good deals

[arctic depot]

I'm fed up of seeing gamertechtoronto on my YT feed no matter how often I say "stop" they keep coming back

The customer had an issue so we replaced every part or just built a new one like

[patent iris]

Buy second hand

[cedar crypt]

Jo i just found a perk of laptop gaming

In the winter your hands dont get cold

[full fossil]

My computer is so fucked rn lol

[gilded plinth]

What's up?

[full fossil]

yooo finally got a new gpu

just a minute ago i picked up a 1660 super

[gilded plinth]

Nice, have fun

[full fossil]

thanks

[dense coral]

Congrats

[gilded plinth]

What did you upgrade from?

[stiff shore]

inb4 1660

[prime meadow]

Mihhahahahahahhahahahahha bow to meeee I have the 4090 founders nowwwwww

🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[full fossil]

[golden atlas]

4way gtx 1080 ti

[thorny stratus]

would y'all buy a pair of shoes, a record player, or a gaming monitor

[golden atlas]

shoes

[dense coral]

A monitor

Just buy a $30 pair of shoes it'll do you fine

Those things do not all cost the same so it's not that difficult to choose

[jagged juniper]

Take your broke self to walmart and buy a pair of shoes heh

[dense coral]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't get why shoes are such a big deal to people

they are shoes

[hearty spear]

GoG Worms Giveaway! 😄
https://www.gog.com/en/game/worms_revolution

[jagged juniper]

This thing needs to hurry up and get here heh

[meager harness]

Building a PC for the first time in a few days. Hopefully everything goes good.

[bright cove]

Hey, I need some help with dbrand. I just tried to order, but one thing is that it didn't accept my card and now a hour later I got an SMS that it literally blocked my card. Anyone else ever had such issue with dbrand? (from Europe)

[wraith sonnet]

@graceful burrow @hearty spear rq do either of you remember the name of the am4 stx board we found?

[hearty spear]

negative

[patent mantle]

Seems that your card declined bud

[graceful burrow]

It was an asrock board

It was used in the deskmeet I think?
Or deskmini

[wraith sonnet]

holy shit that was it, x300m deskmeet

[bright cove]

Yeah but what could be the reason ? Also why did it staright up get blocked and when I called the bank they told me it's not a trustworthy site to buy from

[hearty spear]

is paypal or other purchase type an option?

[hearty spear]

what payment processor is dbrand using?

[graceful burrow]

Good luck finding one at anything approaching a reasonable price

[bright cove]

tried paypal as well, but it still didn't go through

[bright cove]

seems to be their own ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty spear]

credit card on PP or bank?

[bright cove]

cc

[hearty spear]

try it with bank payment

[bright cove]

not an option, mainly since after calling my bank it seems like they literally block dbrand in their system

[teal thorn]

I thought amazon had that reputation of being able to return something if you dont want it

[graceful burrow]

I haven't heard that kek

[full fossil]

but its used and it doesnt sound like it came broken

[surreal cargo]

Second hand arctis nova pro wireless (1 month old) vs brand new arctis pro wireless?

[runic lagoon]

New. Because they’re made out of plastic. And stress on the joins can cause them to completely fail.

[surreal cargo]

You mean the Arctis Pro, right?

Alright, thanks

[runic lagoon]

Yes. I have them. They’re very nice as far as feature. Though the pair time is like 40 seconds every time you turn them on.

[surreal cargo]

I was confused cause of its made in 2018

But if you say so, then will go for it

[runic lagoon]

They sound a little flat without the eq is my biggest gripe.

[surreal cargo]

I experienced that on wired nova pro, yeah

[runic lagoon]

There the old model and the new model. Both can suffer failure at the joints.

[surreal cargo]

I returned that last week cause of its broken

[surreal cargo]

Can you use Steelseries GG Sonar on Arctis Pro?

[runic lagoon]

You can use them without the sonar app. But you really need the app to get everything out of the headphones. Plus the app handles the hardware updates. (At least with the current gen. Can’t speak for the old model. )

[surreal cargo]

Oh i dont get it

So we cant use sonar on old one?

[runic lagoon]

No clue

One the new one. It’s what you use to set create and set eq. To set mic gate or noise canceling. To create audio devices. That you can then use to mix at different levels and with different eq.

[surreal cargo]

Checked

And i see we can use sonar on arctis pro too

[runic lagoon]

Some reason they disable cloud syncing atm. I hope they fix that soon. Registering the app. So you can sign in and use it is buggy.

[surreal cargo]

Are you using engine?

[runic lagoon]

I have SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless pc version. https://steelseries.com/gaming-headsets/arctis-nova-pro-wireless

[runic lagoon]

Engine is part of the app. For the headset. That’s where you go to set most of the Ajido setttings. It is kind of clunky. Like it be nice if you could just go directly to engine for the headset. Instead of having to click on engine. And then the headset.

The covers on the sides are magnetic. Twisting them causes them to fall off. Making it annoying but easy to swap the battery or plug the headset in to charge via usb.

[vapid smelt]

Magnets are black magic

[graceful burrow]

Spittin tbh

[runic lagoon]

They’re very weak magnets. Like nothing has just fallen off. But I would be worried about it if I was traveling. And they’re just thin plastic.

[surreal cargo]

Oh

I thought you are using Arctis Pro Wireless

[meager marsh]

Is it normal for vrm to be really hot when idle ive had it on bios screen for about 7hrs

[vapid smelt]

Define really hot

[limpid hamlet]

Hi

[runic lagoon]

It is an Arctic pro. It’s just the nova version.

[coarse comet]

How do you get into the bios

I see lots of videos but mine isn't the same

[graceful burrow]

Check your motherboard/laptop manual

[coarse comet]

I don't have one

[graceful burrow]

It's not standardized

[graceful burrow]

Google it
The manufacturers absolutely put them online

[coarse comet]

Ok

[surreal cargo]

Nova version is 2022 model

[jaunty moat]

Is it a good idea to mix ram brands ? I’ve got two sticks in and other two sticks out rn. They have the same specs

[graceful burrow]

No.

But if they have the same specs that's the best case scenario

[jagged juniper]

Is it a good idea? Generally no. Will it hurt anything besides possibly performance? No... will you notice the performance difference? Maybe

Its a real problem when you only have a single dimm slot in your laptop with the other half soldered down.

[safe siren]

For any people who have ea origin app for pc does anyone know if uninstalling and reinstalling a game keep its progress (fifa 23)

[jagged juniper]

I believe the saves are saved in the cloud

[cloud iris]

i ran mismatched sticks with my 4770k and overclocked the hell out of them

[ember maple]

In Linuses latest video how does his servers make video editing faster ?

[jagged juniper]

Yeah its not the end of the world thing a lot of people think it is

[ember maple]

No

[severe otter]

is pubg any good right now

[full fossil]

its never been good

[jaunty moat]

Okay so can grainy graphics be caused by different ram brands ?

One has higher voltage by 0.15V

[slender jetty]

something going on with my new monitor, theres a pic in #tech-chat-1

[fluid ridge]

[unborn nexus]

what did i do 💀

oh wait this isnt tech chat

[half elm]

hello pipol

where should i ask questions?

[twin raptor]

Depends on the question

Most likely #1027757333117415424

[shy bone]

What's the question

[half elm]

i asked you earlier

thanks :D

[nova ingot]

Linus now in the 35-44 Age bracket.
☠️

Jokes about middle age

[full fossil]

Does anyone know if Corsair tests/tunes their prebuilts before they ship them out

I'm strongly considering pulling the trigger on their 4080 one, $3k sounds good to me for what you get

[fossil frost]

ive been in that age bracket for a few years... worst thing about it is how long it takes you to scroll when you have to fill in your DOB 😄

[dark trail]

cant i use a pci adapter m.2 on an old pc or a server motherboard

[fossil frost]

best thing about being a mid 30s white guy in the "western world" though... is that literally the entire world's economy is geared towards you as a demographic

[graceful burrow]

Nobody makes pci to m.2

[runic lagoon]

They do for laptops.

[fossil frost]

pci is not pci express

[graceful burrow]

Pci
Not pcie
Pci

[modern storm]

GOOD MORNING VIETNAM

[runic lagoon]

Ltt made a video. 😂

[graceful burrow]

Link it

[fossil frost]

from old-school pci? or from pci express?

[fair sage]

PCI to USB3 to NVMe M.2 😄

[graceful burrow]

Nobody makes pci to usb3 either kek

You could probably find a pci to usb 2 tho

[runic lagoon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225101887317 Aldonist didn’t specify pciE

[fossil frost]

he did specify pci, which is a different standard to pcie

[fair sage]

https://asset.conrad.com/media10/isa/160267/c1/-/sk/986823_LB_00_FB/image.jpg?x=&y=

[graceful burrow]

I didn't specify pcie because i wasn't specifying pcie
I was specifying pci

They're completely different

[fair sage]

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Port-SuperSpeed-Adapter-Power/dp/B00AWP9LMG?th=1 on amazon 😄

[graceful burrow]

That's surprising I won't lie kek

[modern storm]

honestly i thought pci and pcie are the same 💀

[graceful burrow]

They're so very different

[fossil frost]

"supports full pci 3.2 gen 1x1"... im sure it does... over the 1.3gbit link that it shares with literally everything else on the board

[fair sage]

to be fair, on modern boards PCI is literally sitting alone 🙂

cause there is no other PCI slot

[fossil frost]

1.3 is still less than 10 or 20 though

[modern storm]

lol i still have a hdd 😭

[fair sage]

there is also this horrifying thing https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/dp/B0037ECAM2

[graceful burrow]

Can't click because UK and I'm on my phone

[fossil frost]

startech make some really out-there stuff, and a lot of it just doesnt work

[fair sage]

https://www.startech.com/en-eu/cards-adapters/pci1pex1

"PCI to PCI Express Adapter Card"

[graceful burrow]

Bruh my usb goes faster

Pci deserved to die

[fossil frost]

im pretty sure people can write stuff down on paper, and read it back with their eyes, faster than regular old pci

[fair sage]

and then there is Silverstone. Also in Europe we got Delock. If you think Startech makes weird adapters, you never seen Delock https://www.delock.com/produkte/index.html

https://www.delock.com/produkt/62949/merkmale.html?g=2456 example 😄

[runic lagoon]

Yah but you could then covert the pciE to pci with an adapter.

[graceful burrow]

And you'd be an idiot for it

I said what I said and I am correct

There exists no pci to m.2 adapter

[fair sage]

yeah, in the end for old systems you just use SATA and call it a day

[graceful burrow]

You'd have to do multiple

[fair sage]

or SATA to IDE adapter and limited to 150MB/s

[fossil frost]

if you are scrounging around for such adapters.. its time to let that system die

[runic lagoon]

It’s like arguing there no road from NY to SF because it requires more then one road. 😂

[fair sage]

then there is a middle ground of Sandy Bridge to pre-Haswell systems, where if it has UEFI BIOS, there is a chance to mod it to support NVMe boot

[graceful burrow]

And you'd be right if you made such a claim
That's all that matters kek

[fair sage]

like the Z87 board i got for 10 euros, has no official NVMe support, but there is this https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/offer-various-mod-ga-z87x-ud3h-bioses-incl-nvme-microcode/32423#msg68784

[modern storm]

modding the bios? last time I did that to my pc I had to motherboard swap

[fair sage]

well others tested it already, not like i need it, the use case for that system is where even the current decade old 64GB SATA SSD is an overkill for boot drive 🙂

to be fair, getting ASUS P8Z77-I DELUXE/WD for 20 euros beats that 10 euro Z87 board deal 🙂

[full fossil]

@vapid smelt I fucking love it when my dad hits me and throws things at me because I can’t fucking read his mind on what he wants me to do

[fossil frost]

as a dad myself, if i saw your dad hit you for any reason, i would beat the shit out of him

[vapid smelt]

Like a playfully slap or a real hit?

[full fossil]

Like kicking me in my shins and throwing hits

Because I make a mistake doing something

[full fossil]

Come on over :D

[vapid smelt]

... soooo when will you give me your personal details so I can call the cops/ child services

[full fossil]

Also twisted my skin with a drill (Philips bit but it still fucking hurt)

[full fossil]

That seems like it’d make it worse

[valid siren]

Can’t tell if edgy or you need help

[vapid smelt]

Having an abusive parent out of your life makes things worse?

[fossil frost]

im not joking, if i spotted any adult doing that to any child, anywhere, i would kick the shit out of him and brake his hands, so that any future attacking of the child, would hurt the adult more than the child... and what is that adult going to do? report me? get the police involved and have them come looking at THEIR family life? no... not a chance...

[vapid smelt]

..... Dude that's not fucking normal please call CS or 911, even if you tough it out till your 18 your siblings will be next

[fossil frost]

and by "not normal" coopa means, sociopathic and abusive and toxic

[vapid smelt]

I was watching American sniper last night and a guy named the butcher did that to people (with a real drill bit) but still

[river vector]

has someone used a phone as flash drive to update bios ?

[fossil frost]

tried it, doesnt work

[vapid smelt]

Flash drives are $3

[river vector]

damn... new cpu is comming in few days and i need bios update 😄

[full fossil]

He apologized :/ but then tried to justify what he did

[fossil frost]

amazon. order the cheapest flash drive you can find

[full fossil]

Well he said “sorry I love you”

Then gave me a fake hug

[fossil frost]

doesnt matter if he apologised or how he said it... he still did those things and will still do them again

and even if 911/CS do nothing about it, you need to tell them, because the next time, when its something worse, they have this report on record

they wont go after somebody for a single report, but, when a pattern emerges, they will

[full fossil]

Oh shit I have a story that’s pretty important

[vapid smelt]

He abuses you biggie , if it wasnt child predatory I would drive down and kidnap you

[polar fern]

Um.

[fossil frost]

yeah, tbh, you would probably end up being the bad guy by trying to be the good guy 😄

[vapid smelt]

Ikr!!

[full fossil]

A little over a year ago I had a drinking problem cuz it was my coping mechanism and started sneaking out and smoking weed with my friends, and then when he started hitting me and throwing me across the room I fucking ran out and sprinted like four blocks away and called the cops, but considering all the cops know my dad, nothing happened to him

[fossil frost]

report this... they can ignore 1, they can ignore 2, they cant ignore "many"

and if they do, and get found out for it, they will be well and truely fucked

[full fossil]

The cops brought me home

[river vector]

wich country we talking about?

[full fossil]

Just handed me back to them, the guy who choked me out against the wall and threw me across the room

[full fossil]

United States

[fossil frost]

yeah, they will do, because first time they hear from you, you are a child that ran away and is over reacting.. 2nd time... maybe the same... maybe not... 3rd time... well, this is becoming a pattern

[polar fern]

TF I walk into here

[graceful burrow]

Something that should probably be taken to dm's because, while it sucks and I'm not trying to dimish the situation, isn't appropriate for here

[polar fern]

I have personal experience with such things, but I did not expect to walk into it here.

That spoiler sensor thing should probably be use for sensitive topics

[modern storm]

true

[graceful burrow]

Better yet
Not in the public channel of a tech server

At all

[modern storm]

vent channel anyone?

[vapid smelt]

@full fossil it just takes one bad hit to end up in the respawn menu

[full fossil]

@fossil frost you don’t understand I can’t call the cops

Do you have any idea how bad that would make life for me?

[polar fern]

Do you have somewhere else you can go?

[graceful burrow]

This

[vapid smelt]

As bad as the 3060 8gb model

[graceful burrow]

There's an 8gb 3060?

[polar fern]

Gtfo of there

[graceful burrow]

What's the point

[vapid smelt]

Yup 🙃

[fossil frost]

as bad as being the punching bag for somebody who is supposed to protect you?

[graceful burrow]

For real you should probably take it to dm's or a personal server before mods get called for inappropriate topics

[fair token]

hi guys, here's a prime gaming code for Dishonored 2 on GOG... good luck! 🙂 NNEK2C82AC2B1F01Czero (change the word zero to an actual 0, trying to avoid bots)

[graceful burrow]

Based

[full fossil]

Aight I’ll just go to a diff server ig

[echo ridge]

it's a 3050ti basically

[graceful burrow]

Literal L card

[echo ridge]

for the same price as the 12gb

[polar fern]

CPS is better equipped to handle such situations. There’s other options too in most places like nonprofits etc

Get out. You are not an object you’re a person & deserve to be treated properly

Their actions are on them

It’s not your responsibility to protect this person it’s your responsibility to protect yourself

[full fossil]

Well I’m an object until I’m 18

[graceful burrow]

For real?
What the hell

[polar fern]

No you’re not.

[full fossil]

They do own me

[fossil frost]

incorrect

[polar fern]

Nope.

[echo ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPbIsxIQb8M&t=527s

[polar fern]

Do whatever you can to get out and don’t go back.

Trust me - I know what I’m talking about.

[fossil frost]

you think that, because thats what your abuser has made you think... but it isnt true

[echo ridge]

i would take it but ill know ill never play it

[jaunty compass]

Typical Nvidia tbh

[echo ridge]

can we hack biggie so we can call cps on his family

[full fossil]

@fossil frost can I dm you later? I don’t wanna get banned by talking about this here

I can’t rn cuz I’m about to do chores

[jaunty compass]

All I will say is seriously call CPS. Abusive families are no joke, it's not okay and there is help out there

[fossil frost]

im about to go to bed now, its 1am here. but yes. 100% if you need to do. and im sure that anybody else involved in this convo tonight would be happy to speak to you in DMs too

[full fossil]

Coopa is dming me rn

I may have went outside and started crying, weird feeling, I never do this

[vapid smelt]

Damn biggie ruining my reputation of being an asshole

[full fossil]

I should head back inside though before my mom starts asking questions

[polar fern]

Cry = good

[echo ridge]

i got u

coopa is a asshole

[full fossil]

I thought you had me blocked :/

[fossil frost]

im willing to put my reputation/defence mechanism of being an arsehole to one side sometimes, when its needed...

[polar fern]

Pfff Coopa biggest jerk on internet what y’all talking bout

🤷‍♂️

[echo ridge]

probably never blocked you

[polar fern]

Oh I did.

[full fossil]

Eh

[echo ridge]

or unblocked to see why people were talking about cps

[full fossil]

Doesn’t matter anyways

[full fossil]

coopa is ok

Fuck my eyes are red as hell

[polar fern]

As soon as I figured out that you were in trouble, I unblocked you because that’s bullshit what are you dealing with.

[echo ridge]

you missed the context

[full fossil]

prolly

i block a lot of people

[echo ridge]

basically biggie is abused by is family

coopa is not being a asshole

[full fossil]

not my problem not trying to be rude but 15 year old kids on discord claiming family abuse are usually fishing

[polar fern]

🤣

[full fossil]

just take me in senpai

[polar fern]

I cleared my block list few minutes ago. Y’all best behave. No fash tech bro bs.

[full fossil]

fmaily abuse
goes to ltt discord

nice

lemme see how big my block list it

[polar fern]

🤔

[full fossil]

we at 1756 boy

[echo ridge]

meanwhile:

[full fossil]

I have 0

[polar fern]

Shiny, happy people.

Eating Marshmello pies

where do you go Mr blue sky

That’s me in the corner

Comfortably numb

You should all try to make poems using lyrics from different songs.

Happiness is a warm scone

Plasticine porters with looking glass ties?

[full fossil]

[polar fern]

Go ahead & try! poetry is fun and makes your brain feel wiggly

[full fossil]

... nah im good

[echo ridge]

no

[polar fern]

Power supply

Electrons flew

I am using technology

To communicate with you

I prefer free verse, trying to rhyme words feels cutesy and a shortcut to a finished product

[fossil frost]

Can you write me a rhyming poem about computer power supplies

Sure, here is a poem about computer power supplies:

A computer's power supply is a vital part
Without it, the machine just falls apart
It converts AC to DC with ease
Providing power for the computer to please

It helps to run all the hardware inside
The processor, the RAM, the graphics card, it's all supplied
The power supply unit, or PSU for short
Keeps the computer running, that's its resort

It comes in different sizes and wattages too
So you can choose the one that's best for you
Just make sure it fits in the case
And provides enough power, in any race

So the next time you build a computer, don't forget
The power supply, it's a crucial asset
It may not be the most glamorous part
But it's essential to keep the machine's heart

[polar fern]

Nice

[fossil frost]

Chat gpt's attempt ^^^ 😁

[polar fern]

Oh so that’s what was wrong with it

[jaunty compass]

Mfw we have AI writing poetry and making art instead of doing the mundane office tasks

[polar fern]

It does have a few problems.

For example proper poetry writing you do a lot more searching for words that fit properly in the thematic picture. That and imagery would be a higher priority.

wow, that speech to text didn’t work at all

[fossil frost]

It's a generalized function for generating life-like responses to questions. It isn't intelligent or creative in any way. It's very impressive in what it does, still not intelligent though, so will never really get it right

[polar fern]

The poem that it created makes grammatical sense, but from the point of actual poetry, I have to be honest, it sounds like an 11th grade football player trying to sound passable in literature class.

Basically it didn’t try to fix the problems because I didn’t know that they were problems.

[fossil frost]

A computer's power supply is its life source
Without it, the machine just becomes a resourceless force
It converts AC to DC, day and night
Providing power to the computer's every need, with all its might

It helps to run all the hardware inside
The processor, the RAM, the graphics card, it's all supplied
The power supply unit, or PSU for short
Keeps the computer running, it's the main resort

A reliable power supply is key
To keep the computer running smoothly, you'll see
It comes in different sizes and wattages too
So you can choose the one that's best for you

Just make sure it fits in the case
And provides enough power, in any race
A faulty power supply can cause the computer to crash
So it's important to invest in a good one, don't be rash

So the next time you build a computer, don't neglect
The power supply, it's a crucial aspect
It may not be the most glamorous part
But it's essential to keep the machine's heart

Second and final attempt after asking "can you make it more thematic" 😁

[polar fern]

It’s very clunky

[fossil frost]

Second and final attempt after asking "can you make it more thematic"

[polar fern]

I’m going, to be honest, I don’t like it, I would’ve chose different words and different imagery

[fossil frost]

I think if I asked it the right questions and gave it the right prompts, it could fix the issues, but at that point, I may as well ask the initial question, and use the response as my starting point and fix it myself

[polar fern]

Most of these AI things, including lane departure sensors, and such are extremely low resolution in context

Using it as a starting point could work if you were interested in the imagery that it initially put out

You could use it as a rough starting point for sure though

[sterile haven]

i had a literal dream about the days i had a Geforce 210 as a graphics card

[modern storm]

do you mean nightmare

[sterile haven]

yes

actual shittest card

[modern storm]

💀

[sterile haven]

like it was in a pre-built i got as a present cuz i wanted to get into PC gaming

you could guess that not a lot of gaming happened until i upgraded

the pre-built also had this sketchy 250 watt power supply

i think it was a total scam

[polar fern]

Mm that was some good chillie

[vapid smelt]

Damn you didn't share any

[modern storm]

[jagged dune]

lol

[indigo plume]

Heard that amd just brushed off the hotspot issue say that its "fine"

[steel marsh]

yeaaa

powercolour will offer rmas

cause they are investigating the problems

[indigo plume]

kinda crazy they arent addressing problem with a 1000$ dollar gpu

[mint yacht]

What's the hotspot issue? Hotspots hitting 110C or something?

[full fossil]

247C

[mint yacht]

Huh

That feels more like a sensor malfunction than an actual reading lmao

[indigo plume]

heard ppl are returning xtx for 4080 cuz of issue

amd seems to have really dropped the ball with 7900's

might return my 7900xt

[mint yacht]

You already have it and it's working fine, why would you?

[indigo plume]

cuz of issues the card seems to have

[mint yacht]

Is your card experiencing those issues?

[indigo plume]

ill just return for nivida card

less likely to have issues

[mint yacht]

Give it to me :)

[indigo plume]

was a mistake to give amd a chance

[heady flicker]

classic amd releasing unfinished drivers

[slate agate]

that's digital river? or whatever company amd is using to sell their stuff. FYI nvidia uses them as well, or used to at anyrate

lots of companies do, they are ass for customer service

[indigo plume]

if amd had good release they could have competeted with nivida

but they took another L

[mint yacht]

Eh, give it a few drivet updates and people will care again lol

[indigo plume]

I dont think drivers are only issue

[mint yacht]

247 is a sensor malfunction that AMD will probably fix with a BIOS update 🤷

[indigo plume]

pretty sure ppl were saying it was cuz they didnt put enough paste on the cards or some shit

[mint yacht]

And also, the card would auto shutdown if any sensor reported a temp that high
Or at least, you'd hope
And concerning paste, they have a machine to apply paste to the cards in exact quantities, I wonder if there was just a bad batch

[slate agate]

der8auer took a look at a reference card that had the 110c junction temp. once he took it apart and repasted it the temp was normal.

he wasn't sure if it was the paste or if something perhaps wasn't screwed down tight enough or what

[mint yacht]

I wonder if GN will do a video on this

[slate agate]

he thought the stock paste looked fine and had a good application

[vapid smelt]

NVidia's hot spot problem

[slate agate]

it's possible the factory used bad paste or got a bad batch

[indigo plume]

atleast nivida adressed it amd is just brushing it off

[vapid smelt]

it took nvidia a while to address it

[indigo plume]

amd is basiclly saying there is no problem

[slate agate]

digital river is saying there is no problem, the company that sells the cards and handles CS

[mint yacht]

^^ I don't think AMD themselves have made a comment just yet

[indigo plume]

So im returning 7900 card when it arrives

[slate agate]

I wish they'd switch to in house sales or at least a more reputable company

[indigo plume]

for 4080 less issues

[vapid smelt]

https://www.techpowerup.com/258228/110-c-hotspot-temps-expected-and-within-spec-amd-on-rx-5700-series-thermals

amd always allowed a high temps for stuff like junction temperature

[slate agate]

nvidia's gdd6x running at 110c "this is normal" both companies do it

[indigo plume]

well im gunna exchange it anyway

to much sus shit going with these new gpus

[slate agate]

people had to mod their 3000 series cards with better thermal pads to get those vram temps down

[vapid smelt]

and copper shims

[slate agate]

yea

[mint yacht]

And many people cracked the ICs installing these wrong

[vapid smelt]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/copper-plate-mod-rtx-3080 some companies even made dedicated copper plates to drop the gddr6x temps by 25C

[full fossil]

if neuralink launches will bad actors in the gaming industry be more anonymous if they use aimbot?

[regal sun]

The motherload

[indigo plume]

also heard overclock on the 7000 gpus is having issues

[silk mirage]

Help

I need linus himself

[vapid smelt]

well he aint here soooo

[ocean narwhal]

If their brains don't fry maybe

[full fossil]

blood/spinal fluid cooling + Canada

is it possible?

they would probably die

that fat in their brains would probably melt

or get smaller

[eager notch]

I just put less garbage thermal pads on my 3090 and it improved the temps significantly, somewhere in the neighborhood of like 20°C

https://a.co/d/dtMvoo3

[silk mirage]

My pc wont load into windows

[vapid smelt]

good for oyu

[silk mirage]

You suck

[odd nebula]

Anybody remember the image of the Nvidia themed PC, hard tubing, Nvidia logo all over it, SLI'd GPUs

[vapid smelt]

so do you

[silk mirage]

I already did that

[eager notch]

Ligma

[silk mirage]

This whole pc thing is rigged

[graceful burrow]

What pc thing

[odd nebula]

sai tip: if u cut the pcb it makes vents for the heat to get out

[steel marsh]

just gotta pressure amd to address the issue

[eager notch]

Tf u talkin bout?

[steel marsh]

atleast powercolour is doing something about it

name and shame amd for the 110c issue

same way as nivadia should be the 4090 adapter issue

[full fossil]

me

[eager notch]

Did Nvidia use less garbage thermal pads on the 40 series than the 30 series?

[steel marsh]

both cases are unacceptable on high end consumer products

[slate agate]

remember cap gate or whatever at the launch with the 3000 series as well

[steel marsh]

yup

i remember that too

[slate agate]

evga saying in testing they found something like "this particular configuration is not stable so we redid the ftw3 and it was delayed"

while other AIB's used that or even lesser setups

[steel marsh]

weren't the tuf ones fine

[slate agate]

I just remember some cards ended up with new designs for it

[steel marsh]

ye

before i buy a tuf oc 4080 gunna look at reviews and tear downs

[graceful burrow]

That's why evga was goated

[slate agate]

I think it was ultimately drivers that fixed it? as in nvidia limited how exactly 3000 series cards would boost clocks

[steel marsh]

yea

[vapid hound]

Logan paul got himself into some shiiiiiit

[vapid smelt]

did he go in the forest again?

[vapid hound]

No

[vapid hound]

Crypto

Scam

[vapid smelt]

all crypto is a scam

[vapid hound]

No

[vapid hound]

Wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the near future

[graceful burrow]

What's not to understand

[gilded quest]

Paid delivery is slower than free delivery

[vapid smelt]

whats wrong with that

you still got a ps5

[signal dagger]

atleast you have one

most people dont get to experience that

[nova ingot]

I miss having to lie about my age on forms.

[vapid smelt]

i still forget my real bday is legal for most sites and still default to a random 1980s bday

[full fossil]

Hey can someone explain to me the ideology to me behind bottom mounted fans, like the bottom of the case? Are they intake/outtake

Because if they're intake it seems like that would conflict with the GPU fans unless it's vertical mount

[vapid smelt]

gpus like fresh cold air

[full fossil]

Yeah but do the GPU fans not blow downwards

Or am I just stupid

[hollow pulsar]

No conflict. Just brings in cooler air to components mid way and lower in the motherboard

[full fossil]

No I keep my PC on the desk I'm not a caveman

[hollow pulsar]

They usually blow toward the heatsink.

[full fossil]

I just kinda figured that the two fans blowing air at each other didn't make sense

Would it be more beneficial for thermals to mount the GPU vertical? I was kinda thinking of doing that in next build

[hollow pulsar]

They would blow in the same direction, not opposing one another in a normal configuration.

[full fossil]

I'm worried about VRMS on these new 40 series cards

So I'm trying to get the best setup possible here WITHOUT having to place my own thermal strips

I don't feel like doing card surgery again

I feel like mounting it vertical would be good since the bottom fans would blow more directly on the heat sink

[hollow pulsar]

Ive never had any problems with a normal build. No special GPU orientation… just bog standard.

[full fossil]

I see

Also vertical might be good with how heavy these new cards are

Won't have to worry about sag

I'm using a dual fan 2060 so it's never been an issue for me lol

[hollow pulsar]

I believe folks sell vertical shafts to help with weight. Dunno how well they work because I’ve not had a card heavy enough.

[full fossil]

Yeah I've heard of those

I've also seen some people literally holding it up with a pencil lmao

Would a water block actually affect VRAM temps? Or just the actual chip die

I've never water cooled a GPU before so I don't know

[hollow pulsar]

Anyway, all this to say that I see a ton of people come through here worried about thermals and air flow and bottlenecking and… it really just comes down to following standard modern PC layout design. Engineers far more qualified than us have figured this stuff out and have designed and published standards that other engineers design and build for.

[nova violet]

Should I replace my whole pc if it always fail to start when plugging in too many devices?
Or should I waste time debugging it

[nova violet]

Not looking for tech support

[hollow pulsar]

So yea, you can eek out some extra performance for say, $100 more and doing some extra engineering work on your part. Or you can save that for a future PC build.

[full fossil]

Well the performance is not the issue I just don't want my 2 thousand dollar card to degrade from bad thermals

[full fossil]

That's more of a personal question depending on your current PC, is it worth fixing to you? Or is it old

[hollow pulsar]

Be sure to have positive air pressure in your case and fresh air flowing to your GPU somehow. The card will be fine.

[full fossil]

Gotcha

I just feel like we're reaching a tipping point on these cards where air just isn't enough almost

The fact that I still see people air cooling 12th and 13th gen Intel chips is mind boggling

[hollow pulsar]

That’s a good thing. Forces engineers to try to be efficient and not just ramp up the power requirements for more performance, which is exactly what they have been doing lately and believe me, you are paying for that.

[full fossil]

That's true

I guess I just haven't been in the shoes of a low budget builder for a long time

[nova violet]

It's only 4 years old, but I know that you get swap parts in a custom pc

[nova violet]

I think it is 5 or sth

[full fossil]

Like water cooling has just been so affordable for a long time I just default to it

At least on the cpu

[full fossil]

Is this one not custom/upgradeable?

I'd say if you were wanting to upgrade anyways then yeah go for it, but if you don't have the money then try to fix it

The thing now is that stuff from 4 to 5 years ago is not really upgradeable because the standards have all changed

DDR5 ram is the norm, but that means you need a new board, which means you need a new CPU

Just kind of a bad time frame for swapping parts. I'm in the same place myself

DDR5 is going to stay for a long time but I'm also hoping they keep the same CPU sockets for a while

[hollow pulsar]

I’m waiting for at least the 2nd gen on this new AMD platform. Learning from my old mistakes. 🙂

[full fossil]

I built my stuff in 2019, so there's not much I can really upgrade without just building a whole new PC

[nova violet]

custom build

My specs:
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME A320M-K
CPU / GPU / RAM : R5 2600 / 1060 / 16gb DDR4

Are these incompatible with today's standards

Or maybe do I get to keep my gpu or sth

Damn I haven't touched pc stuffs for like years and now I feel kinda dumb

What's the newest graphics card

[full kelp]

hey think a 12100f and a 1060 3gb is a good match together? i can get a 1060 for $50 as my place holder till I can get a better gpu

[vapid hound]

Ywah

[vapid hound]

Still solid

[vapid hound]

Rx 7900 xtx

[polar fern]

🤔

[nova violet]

The thing is, it occasionally doesn't start unless I unplug all usb devices. Sometimes that doesn't work as well

[fluid ridge]

40 series or 7000 series

or if you hate FPS you can buy an intel arc

[nova violet]

One day it BSOD and shut down twice suddenly while I'm studying

So I'm not sure if my pc is stil reliable or not

[nova violet]

Is it still expensive

[fluid ridge]

you said you had a 2600 and a 1060

if we are going by those standards, yes

yes very very expensive

but you can probably find a nice and cheap 30 series card for 400-700

[nova violet]

I heard them going above 1000 before

Nice to see some normal prices

[sonic barn]

2020 was 3 years ago

[graceful burrow]

No it wasnt

[sonic barn]

In like 3 days yes

My PC will be 4 yrs old

[ivory swift]

https://youtu.be/g16heGLKlTA

RIP

[neon mesa]

My evga 3060 coming in today

[fluid ridge]

the 4090 is probably 14x faster than a 3060

[neon mesa]

Just 3x actually

In raster

[fluid ridge]

thats still an insane amount

[neon mesa]

And 4090 is effectively 10x the price

[fluid ridge]

it is what it is

[manic torrent]

I chop and change my PC all the time. It's the best ax I've ever had.

[manic torrent]

It was 10 years ago

Pandemic time is at least 3.3x

[steel bronze]

Damn i just set up my own self-hosted passwordmanager and it is really convinient

And I havent even migrated stuff over yet

[wild knoll]

What kind of encryption algo are you using ?

[zinc kayak]

boom

[steel bronze]

Its bitwarden I didnt go out abd write my own password manager lmao
I could but just really not interested lol

Iirc its aes256

Which i uave no clue what means

[wild knoll]

Ahhh, i see

[steel bronze]

But its supposed to be good i think

[vapid smelt]

bang

[wild knoll]

yeah it is good

[steel bronze]

According to quick google searches its basically the standard for encryption like passwords

Also while i may not write the pw manager I will write my own backup script so i dont get locked out of my accounts and I should and phone recovery to my email juuuust in case

Add*

[wild knoll]

if you are familiar with python or go lang try to ecode it with zutto dekiru and encrypt it and use the reverse of the script's logic to retrieve the passwords

[wild knoll]

hmm, interesting

[steel bronze]

Oh yeah i program all the time
I wanna figure out how to make money from it but I cant really get a programming or computer job because im 16 so noone wants to hire me afaik lmao

[wild knoll]

oh , you can try applying for internships

[steel bronze]

Btw what is "zutto dekiru"
Sounds like japanese encoding algorithm :^)))

[wild knoll]

I'm 15 and I work as a data scientist and I free lance pentesting , so you never know , anything might work out

[wild knoll]

It is an encoding algorithm

[wild knoll]

https://www.rapid7.com/db/modules/encoder/x64/zutto_dekiru/

[steel bronze]

Yeah i also want to try doing work on some freelancing website but I look at all the jobs listed and I always feel "damn i cant do that surely"

[wild knoll]

it might be worth giving a try

[steel bronze]

I figured as much when you said to try encrypting something with it :^)

[wild knoll]

encoding and encrypting it , cuz it is never a good choice to pass the passwords as plain text

[steel bronze]

When would I be passing plaintext passwords?

I checked wireshark and all the interactions look encrypted to me

[wild knoll]

if thats the case it is great , I mentiond it to implement it when you code your own password manager

[steel bronze]

*if

[wild knoll]

IG creating your own password manager is an interesting project

[steel bronze]

I have a habit of starting projects and then losing interest quickly and forgetting about them (i think i have 1-10gb of unfinished projects laying around on just one of my machines)

[wild knoll]

try completing those when you are free IG, adds to your portfolio

[steel bronze]

For example I started working on my own OS kernel in like 2017 or 2018 and I got stuck on a memory bug in like 2020 and have veen touching it every so ofteb since then

[steel bronze]

The portfolio that i dont have because ive been bothered to try to do professional stuff just hobby projects lol

Programming is fun

[wild knoll]

can you elaborate

[steel bronze]

Also this is very epic

[steel bronze]

Where

[wild knoll]

Thanks

[wild knoll]

DM

[steel bronze]

No i mean like what do i elaborate on lol

Also sure

[wild knoll]

the bug you got stuck on

[steel bronze]

Oh I have no clue what it was

[wild knoll]

then how did you figure it was related to memory 😅

[steel bronze]

But I changed a bunch of stuff in the code and now I have a different bug pinned down instead which is just a race condition in my vfs

[steel bronze]

Idk probably the fact that the whole of the page tables were getting wiped and allocated memory was somehow getting freed by code that wasnt even using the address lol
Im not sure what it was but since there were other smaller bugs it was probably just related to them and they united to make a seemingly massive problem

Because especially in kernels, small broken code in one place can present as a massive seemingly unrelated issue

[wild knoll]

what is the target architecture of the OS

[steel bronze]

x86_64 because i have like 5 or 6 different devices that use it

[wild knoll]

try using a prebuilt linux kernel first

[steel bronze]

??? Wdym
Why would my kernel be linux compatible

[echo ridge]

what

[steel bronze]

boom

[echo ridge]

jake just typed boom and left

[steel bronze]

boom

[echo ridge]

why

[steel bronze]

boom

[cerulean canopy]

why not

[wild knoll]

I mean experient the functionalities on a linux kernel and building a similar kernel , because when you try designing an os for the first time you can mess up a lot of stuff , so experimenting on a known kernel would come in handy

[echo ridge]

why

[wild knoll]

there would be some key differences with thread synchronization and process handling but if have the time for it , why not give it a try , it might save you some time compared to stuck with a single bug for a long time

[steel bronze]

"because when you try to design an OS for the first time you can mess up a lot of stuff" trust me I know lmao
Like I said ive been working on this project since 2017 or 2018 and I started with literally 0 C knowledge so you bet I messed shit up but I learned and now im here with my own almost functioning kernel that can run userspace programs and has like 60% readable code

[steel bronze]

No its just a bug in my code when im implementing a feature of the kernel
Basically im trying to say it wouldnt really make sense to isolated the code and stuff into a linux kernel

Plus I find it much easier to test with my codebase since I actually know what is going on

[wild knoll]

well if that's the case my suggestion is useless lol

[steel bronze]

In terms of the code structure etc

[fluid ridge]

why would you write your own operating system

sounds like the biggest waste of time besides writing your own operating system

[wild knoll]

why boom?

[steel bronze]

Idk i learned python for 1 year and then had a strange obsession with figuring out how OS works and then I was just like "huh ill just make my own surely its easy" and then also because its REALLY fun for me 🙂

[fluid ridge]

took you a long ass time to learn python my guy

but fair enough and good for you

[wild knoll]

1 year for python , why ?

[steel bronze]

I was like 10 lmao

[wild knoll]

oh makes sense lol

[manic torrent]

Yeah... Don't do this. Use an actual existing product

[steel bronze]

I knew nothing about programming

[wild knoll]

I recommended this , if he is designing his own password manager

[steel bronze]

So my dad handed me a book that teached me the basics of programming and i learned from it

[steel bronze]

For fun project*****

[manic torrent]

Don't design your own password manager

[wild knoll]

and this would be the pipeline for communicating with the DB storing the password

[manic torrent]

It's good blanket advice, because if you know enough to know what you're doing, you know it doesn't apply.

[wild knoll]

that is true lol

[manic torrent]

Don't write encryption code either. Use the full abstraction of the library

[steel bronze]

Fair yep

[manic torrent]

I mean, generally you want to write as little code as possible.

[steel bronze]

HardwareBob teaching the basic concepts of using libraries pog :^)

[wild knoll]

That is true , but I think very few people maintain the libraries and the rest dont , which means it has a lot of vulns in the dependencies it uses (if any that is ).

[steel bronze]

Oh yeah that reminds me

[fluid ridge]

honestly coding is tedious and boring as hell and i truly believe it is one of those jobs that will eventually be replaced by automation

it's like the factory worker on the assembly line

[steel bronze]

Rust and node both look scary because if you import one package it has 12 dependencies lmao

[steel bronze]

This is an opinion

I like prgrammimg

[fluid ridge]

the rise of AI and things like chatGPT have already demonstrated the capability of these said programs

[wild knoll]

not for people who finds programming interesting IG

[steel bronze]

Yes

[fluid ridge]

oh yeah for sure, other people have different hobbies and interests

[wild knoll]

That is true

[fluid ridge]

but the latter half of what i said still stands

[full fossil]

replacing coding is complete nonsense xD
you need to be human to code, so unless u replace humans lol, then sure

[steel bronze]

Anyways even if something like chatgpt takes over there still has to be someone who understands how to prompt it etc

[fluid ridge]

yeah im sure the car assembly line workers 80 years ago thought the same

[steel bronze]

Chatgpt is really cool

[full fossil]

i can tell you dont know what code is xD
its not repetitive work, its creativity, like writing or painting,
car assembly is literally the most repetitive work that can easily be automated

[fluid ridge]

jobs that requir(ed - past tense) a human are now predominantly shifting outwards towards machines - cashiers, factory workers, package sorters, drivers (self driving cars), even entire grocery stores

[manic torrent]

.... That's... Garbage

[wild knoll]

well chatGPT cannot be entirely used to write code , because it will contain a lot of bugs and it doesn't think like humans to apply logic , it just relys out on the data it is trained on

[wild knoll]

why?

[manic torrent]

Tell me you don't know shit about fuck

[fluid ridge]

oh please

[manic torrent]

Your code will not be better.

[manic torrent]

I mean, what would I know, right?

[fluid ridge]

unless you have the time stone and can see into the future, what do any of us know right?

[steel bronze]

Hm i guess hindsight is 20/20 but it seems like assembly line automation is a somewhat simple problem at an abstract level like just make the machines more precise or whatever i dont claim to know anything about it really
How would AI take over coding?

[wild knoll]

It won't be , that's why previously I agreed on you saying to use services which are already available

[fluid ridge]

the same way AI takes over artists, customer support agents, etc.

[manic torrent]

You are somewhat correct that there's a lot of code that will be eliminated by making it more accessible. It's already happening.

[graceful burrow]

Ai hasn't and will never take over artists kek

[full fossil]

who do u think will code them xD

[manic torrent]

None of that has happened

[fluid ridge]

process of happening

soon will have happened

[manic torrent]

Again, you don't know shit about fuck

[graceful burrow]

Im huge huge huge into stable diffusion and the ai art scene
It will never happen
Real artists will never "get taken over"

[steel bronze]

This guy (triage) is a supporter of the ai uprising

Real

[manic torrent]

Oh, I am a big fan of the singularity, but that will happen so quickly you won't be able to pontificate on it.

[fluid ridge]

surely that is why the artists are protesting on mass, why art platforms are banning AI art, and why these tools generate an insane amount of attention

[steel bronze]

Triage is an AI confirmed???

[fluid ridge]

this is literally copium

this is like taxi drivers saying self driving isn't a threat to them

[manic torrent]

.... "AI" art is using actual art as input.

[graceful burrow]

Homie really only sees the surface level of it lmao

[steel bronze]

I agree you are copium :^)))

[fluid ridge]

has to be trained on something, no?

[graceful burrow]

Why look any deeper than surface level tbf
That would require work and thought

And that's boring

[full fossil]

ikr, if anything, AI will automate repetitive non-creative work, and literally let humans focus on art/science and advance human race 1000x faster xP

[manic torrent]

..... Yes. Exactly.

[manic torrent]

Ideally. Capitalism fucks it up for everyone

[wild knoll]

nope it will not happen any time soon, because for an AI to be fully dependent on itself the devs have to follow reinforcement learning where the AI relies on the feed back of it's response to a certain task , and that method is still not fully developed, and while we develop chatbots we follow some points to go through which keeps the bot from uttering inappropriate language or any useless responses

[graceful burrow]

Triage is truly an imbecile
I'm seepy
Gn

[steel bronze]

I mean if you arent interested sure yeah but then dont pretend you know everything about it lol

[steel bronze]

Gn!

[fluid ridge]

i am looking at what is most obvious and drawing the most rational conclusion through examples in the past and applying them to the examples in the present

[polar fern]

AI in its current sate is extremely rudimentary. I’d argue that it’s not really even AI.

[full fossil]

Capitalism will go bye bye xP cuz that system wont work anymore,

[fluid ridge]

like i said earlier, none of us can look in the future so this is really all just speculative

but i can draw parallels to these things that have happened already and compare them to the things that are happening now

[graceful burrow]

The obvious is nothing of note
You don't know what's actually happening, what's actually going on
You see one thing and jump on a bandwagon without doing any real research
You're useless.

[fluid ridge]

🤷‍♂️

[graceful burrow]

A useless being spewing nonsense as if it were fact

A machine made for lies

[steel bronze]

Using what you know which is only very basic things....

[graceful burrow]

Lies isn't the right word but I thought it sounded neat

[fluid ridge]

only time will tell

[steel bronze]

I also only know very basic things

[steel bronze]

True i guess yep

[manic torrent]

Triage, I literally could not tell if you were replaced with a dumb as shit AI.

[graceful burrow]

[polar fern]

😲

[steel bronze]

Real

[fluid ridge]

you seem to have a real problem with people who do not share your viewpoints or perspectives

[steel bronze]

@graceful burrow what is that about me lol

[fluid ridge]

i don't know how i engage someone like that

[vapid smelt]

they still have like 15 years

[polar fern]

The problem is not with the person the problem is with the ideas.

[fluid ridge]

yeah but the point is it's going to happen

aldonist over here coping that his drawings will survive the growth of artificial image generation

[vapid smelt]

but then again it might not, since the company would be responsible for any crash or death

[fluid ridge]

i said this too

none of us have a time stone so only time will tell

but looking at history allows an extrapolation of the line

[steel bronze]

I mean that is a valid criticism yeah

[polar fern]

Ideas are just like software. They can be good or bad or somewhere in between. The people with the ideas are good. People themselves are not ideas.

[fluid ridge]

but it's a very common trait amongst modern society

moral grandstanding, the "i am the supreme arbiter of all ideas and everything i oppose must be incorrect"

but it is what it is

[graceful burrow]

Good news
You've pinned me supremely incorrect
I don't draw
I can't draw
I am no artist
My profile picture is ai generated
The fact that you can't even decipher a basic argument is proof enough you don't know shit about what you're talking about

[polar fern]

🤔

[steel bronze]

The only problem I have with triage is it just read like he was trying to worship AI as a god coming to automate every task humanity knows lol

[manic torrent]

I am merely pointing out that your future predictions mean that your entire existence right now is meaningless. You cannot provide analysis better than that of a poorly trained AI.

[graceful burrow]

What about you

[fluid ridge]

and you can? again none of us have a time stone

[manic torrent]

I can, and do. It's literally my job.

[fluid ridge]

apparently bob can look into the future

all hail i guess?

[polar fern]

Can confirm. Bob has mystic objects.

[fluid ridge]

impressive

[steel bronze]

And with being so confident with being right about something while apparently knowing very little

[steel bronze]

Don't look into it too much.

[graceful burrow]

I won't don't worry

[fluid ridge]

im not worshipping AI by any means

[manic torrent]

I mean, I'm talking about analysis of existing systems, but sure.

[polar fern]

@fluid ridge how do you feel about the Elon?

[fluid ridge]

you just said you had a time stone

[graceful burrow]

You're a walking talking example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, no more, no less

[steel bronze]

Sorry idk thats just how it read to me lol

[manic torrent]

The replacement of people by automation is happening gradually, and people like myself will be last on the list.

[steel bronze]

👍

[fluid ridge]

but you are on the list

[neon mesa]

format disk

[manic torrent]

It can and will happen.

[vapid smelt]

i wish i was born into money like elon 😦 then i could go to fancy schools

[fluid ridge]

fuck? glad we agree then

[manic torrent]

Everyone is.

[fluid ridge]

glad we agree then

[polar fern]

@neon mesa you broke it

[fluid ridge]

i guess i spent the last 20 minutes going in a giant circle

[manic torrent]

Smarter than human AI is possible, therefore it will happen. The only caveat is if the human race survives long enough to do it.

[steel bronze]

Actually in June 2087 every human will be wiped out by ai so yeah we are on the list to be replaced

[manic torrent]

Where you are deluded is your timeframe and impression of the current state of events.

[fluid ridge]

my main point was that it will happen - i dont even think i provided a timeframe

[polar fern]

We can’t even decide what diapers to use on our babies & you think we gonna last long enough to create skynet?!

[fluid ridge]

i just said it will happen

[fluid ridge]

and if you're still here, are you familiar with Malkiel's Monkey?

[polar fern]

I think you’re over-estimating the human species ability to stay stable in a long-term timeframe

[graceful burrow]

No I'm asleep

[steel bronze]

I think you provided a sense of a timeframe and a pace you were expecting in the way you wrote your messages

Ofc you didnt just goand say "programmers are eliminated on July 24th 2057"

[fluid ridge]

im not an artist, neither do i make AI, but the point is time will tell - there is no "expertise" on speculation like this unless you're dr. strange

[fluid ridge]

if i did, so be it, the main point was that it will happen

[polar fern]

So what you’re really saying, is you don’t know.

[fluid ridge]

im saying nobody knows, and ive been saying this from the beginning

[wraith sonnet]

God damnit almost all the people I dmd are all active?

[graceful burrow]

You dm'd me?

[polar fern]

But you’ve also said it will happen

[steel bronze]

You can have expertise in the case of knowing what is reasonable to expect

[fluid ridge]

that is my opinion yes

[fluid ridge]

malkiel's monkey

malkiel's monkey is actually a term used in stocks

[steel bronze]

I am a monkey

[fluid ridge]

but you can extrapolate the meaning over to this subject

[wraith sonnet]

Yeah, trying to gauge the consensus on what my build should be if I build a showcase for LTX

[graceful burrow]

You won't get my email that easily

[wraith sonnet]

Oh shit I forgot people use it for that

[graceful burrow]

It's not shared kek dw

[manic torrent]

I mean, there literally is, but go off.

[wraith sonnet]

Is there an alternate tool that doesn't have that functionality?

[graceful burrow]

I was making a funny
I filled out the form and then ignored the dm btfo lmao gotte.

[fluid ridge]

malkiel's monkey

this is like the 9th time ive said this

[polar fern]

The racist & antisemite businessman known as Henry Ford once stated that it was preposterous to replace mechanical brakes with hydraulic, even though at that point, pneumatic brakes were becoming normalised in the railroad industry.

[fluid ridge]

people have been coping for all of human history

[indigo plume]

returning my 7900 when it arrives cuz of all the issues they are having

[red spindle]

coping and seething

[polar fern]

Coping?

[fluid ridge]

whether it be factory workers and henry ford or the car execs who thought electric cars would fail

[indigo plume]

just gunna get 4080

[fluid ridge]

coping is kind of like denying a reality to make yourself feel better

it's difficult to explain

[steel bronze]

Michael Reeves's Fish ****

[polar fern]

Electric cars were already established in the 1800s along with the first steam cars.

[vapid smelt]

lets hope it doesn't burn your house down

[fluid ridge]

imagine a taxi driver seeing a self driving car and then thinking "hah! that thing would never take my job"

[indigo plume]

why would it burn my house down

[fluid ridge]

that would be coping

[steel bronze]

If you plug it in wrong

[wraith sonnet]

Green PCBs in a TJ09 Aldo?

[graceful burrow]

:)

[indigo plume]

isnt that only 4090

[fluid ridge]

or a human artist who looks at a picture of ai generated art and thinks "hah! nobody would want drawings from a machine over drawings from me"

[vapid smelt]

same connector

[steel bronze]

Nah its the plug in general

[wraith sonnet]

I'll wait for Bob and Tk to respond too ig

[neon mesa]

[indigo plume]

I wont plug it in wrong

[steel bronze]

Then you wont catch on fire.

[indigo plume]

Id take user error vs amd issues

[polar fern]

It’s not difficult to explain he was right for a while because air systems and hydraulic systems at the time we are fine for use in the railroad, but automobile quality control standards meant that some hydraulic brake systems had fatal flaws. Ford’s problem was that he thought that his model T was the perfect automobile and refused to move forward.

[manic torrent]

... that's not what is being said.

[fluid ridge]

i am explaining the concept of coping, entirely different

[wraith sonnet]

I imagine coop also would vote for a green PCB in a tj09

[steel bronze]

Cope

[polar fern]

When people say AI can make poetry and music and art, what they are really trying to say is there an algorithm created by people is able to create things with words and images. It’s not poetry and it’s not art. Its product.

[indigo plume]

saw some videos where amd gpus lost performace from overclocking

[graceful burrow]

Do you plan to overclock

[indigo plume]

how does that make sense

[steel bronze]

Yes that is because vram clocks are pushed down to stop power draw going over the limit

[polar fern]

You don’t need to explain what coping is breh

[manic torrent]

Actually no, the algorithm is created with an algorithm. We literally have no idea how the algorithm works.

[polar fern]

Yes, it’s basically like pachinko

[neon mesa]

humans are just organic algorithms

[fluid ridge]

but it eventually happened right?

[indigo plume]

eventually I will yeah

[fluid ridge]

he was right at that time, sure

[graceful burrow]

Answer me

[polar fern]

Actually, parking brakes are still mechanical. 🤣

[wraith sonnet]

Chiplet GPUs are not a mature enough platform for good overclocks to be done

[manic torrent]

Basically if you get an ML system and feed it garbage, you could end up with a chatbot smarter than triage, today.

[indigo plume]

was the chiplet design a mistake

[neon mesa]

like humans make responses based on inputs + learned information

[fluid ridge]

my car has an electric parking brake 😎

[manic torrent]

But we would at least know why it was so stupid.

[graceful burrow]

Are you planning on overclocking yes or no

[polar fern]

Electric?

[steel bronze]

I just explained partially why based on what i saw in a jayztwocents vid

[fluid ridge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_parking_brake

[indigo plume]

I already answered

[manic torrent]

It has an electrically actuated mechanical brake

[steel bronze]

Vram clock goes down to meet power budget

[indigo plume]

I said eventually yes

rright away prob not

[polar fern]

I think you may mean electrically actuated mechanical

[fluid ridge]

but it's not fully mechanical

[polar fern]

A part moves interlocking with another part that means it’s mechanical

[fluid ridge]

well if you break it down that far, sure

[graceful burrow]

Gonna electromechanically get cozy in bed

[polar fern]

Break it down that far? Breh

Enjoy

[wraith sonnet]

Look it's just not mature enough yet, just like how for some dumbass reason ddr5 6000 was a thing DAY 0 for z690

[steel bronze]

You know what else is mechincal
Probably Triage's brain

[fluid ridge]

if you look at everything close enough it's just atoms my guy

[modern storm]

finally i boosted now I HAVE IMAGE PERRMS!

[vapid smelt]

wait your stillup?

[vapid smelt]

they removed that

[wraith sonnet]

Yes I'm closing this week

[modern storm]

i do have image persm

[polar fern]

That’s actually not true, if you look close enough, everything is vibrating strings of particles which are actually the nexes of series of intersecting dimensions

[vapid smelt]

[graceful burrow]

Prove it then

[modern storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/879148255777263666/1015342817972846623/fly.gif

[wraith sonnet]

Fucking got me

[polar fern]

This conversation looks like this

[manic torrent]

Not even

[neon mesa]

you were saying?

[fluid ridge]

[polar fern]

I want self tapping wood screws in my mouse too

[vapid smelt]

clearly yall are posting stickers and not imgs

[manic torrent]

That is you, triage

[indigo plume]

I know 4080 isnt great value but ill take that over the new gpu 7900s

[modern storm]

roblox

[polar fern]

I’m not gonna lie - we should probably be moving toward more sustainable materials such as bamboo for computer component housing etc

[manic torrent]

You would take a smack in the face if Nvidia sold it

[wraith sonnet]

Bob is not going to respond to my poll methinks

[polar fern]

Is that a series port mouse?

[neon mesa]

ask chatgpt

[echo ridge]

Apparently the h510 on nzxts website went free for a hour today because someone at nzxt forgot to make the 250 dollar free case code check if the cart has 250 dollars

[manic torrent]

Oh, something something showcase ltx?

[polar fern]

Oop

[indigo plume]

no I was planning on getting amd gpu till all these issues came out

[manic torrent]

You should sponsor my winch mounted PC

[modern storm]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-cry-tears-king-crown-gif-5302586

[wraith sonnet]

Yeah there's a few minor details I want to get your opinion on

[indigo plume]

i was looking forward to amd gpus

[modern storm]

fr? im gonna get a nzxt case bro..

[indigo plume]

but they dropped the ball

[wraith sonnet]

I'm not with Xidax anymore

[indigo plume]

I was told nzxt cases were bad

and had bad airflow

[graceful burrow]

You were told right

[modern storm]

but it looks good B)

[polar fern]

Water cooled using radiator & pump from a 1978 Peterbuilt

[echo ridge]

Probably oos by now

[indigo plume]

so do some other cases

[modern storm]

im just running a gtx 1050

no need for fancy cooling, my current case has only 1 fan

[wraith sonnet]

Can't beat the HAFXB when it comes to airflow

[echo ridge]

And its oos

[polar fern]

@manic torrent is this the pc case you’re using?

[modern storm]

Tf is oos

[modern storm]

💀

[graceful burrow]

Out of stock

[echo ridge]

Out of stock

[graceful burrow]

Slow

[manic torrent]

I'm in the middle of putting Christmas in my storage unit right now, and discording from my phone, hit me up in a few hours

[echo ridge]

Man I was checking if the flow works

[polar fern]

Man, I wish I had a storage unit.

[manic torrent]

Nah will be starting with my O11D

[wraith sonnet]

Alright, thank you

[manic torrent]

It's easy you just have to pay them $165/month

[modern storm]

Whats out of stock

Are you talking about the case im getting

[polar fern]

011d the one with the aquarium look to it?

[echo ridge]

The broken nzxt code thing

[modern storm]

rip

What was the code lol

[graceful burrow]

2022FREECASE

[modern storm]

What was the case

[graceful burrow]

Homie

[polar fern]

😲

[modern storm]

what

[polar fern]

Cheeky usb ports on the bottom for keyboard & mouse - nice

[modern storm]

Apple design

[echo ridge]

H510,h510i,h510 elite

[modern storm]

they messed up bad

[manic torrent]

Yep, but with four mounts on the top, stainless steel wire, and basically a crane above to lift/move it into place. Then for service it comes down

[modern storm]

That guy is going to get fired

[polar fern]

I see

[echo ridge]

Why not the flow

[polar fern]

Or gal or nonbinary person

[modern storm]

Thats what im gonna get

[echo ridge]

Why didn't they fuck up with the flow

Why

[graceful burrow]

Actual L tbh

Like actual unironic L I'm not even making a joke

[modern storm]

the 4000d is out of stock agh

[graceful burrow]

Many other great cases exist

[echo ridge]

There's more then the flow and the 4000d

[modern storm]

darkflash

[graceful burrow]

Everyone should endeavor to give as little money to nzxt as humanly possible

We can't be buds if you gave nzxt money
Simple as

[modern storm]

Well im not buying it directly from nzxt

And also im getting it on sale on 2.2

[full fossil]

new nickname for my wow char :V

[graceful burrow]

That's irrelevant
They received money from someone

[modern storm]

probably