public-chat

[cloud forum]

There's a reason I'm not a UI designer

[fluid ridge]

that's like a million people who build different apps that do different things who have different senses of what is good and bad

you cannot mash that together into one perfect mold

[manic torrent]

also, your ignorance of this, shows you don't understand that UI design is to achieve certain goals. EG: fortnite dark pattersn

[fluid ridge]

it's common sense

[stray apex]

Epic wasn't fined 250mil for misleading UI because the FTC director thought that the UI looked bad

Also, calling back to earlier this kind of thing is a lot harder to find on Reddit than twitter

[cloud forum]

Wasn't Epic fined for having hired psychologists to make Fortnite more addicting?

[fluid ridge]

can you please provide the objectively good UI standard you claim exists

[stray apex]

Really dumb posts are usually hidden, so it's hard to have long arguments with dumb people so you can improve your self-esteem

[fluid ridge]

i need to take a look at this golden threshold im apparently missing out on

[manic torrent]

yes, that's what I'm talking about

[cloud forum]

Aaaaa

[fluid ridge]

[manic torrent]

ahhh, to be an ignorant entitled man.

[cloud forum]

Me when Makima

[fluid ridge]

if you're going to make an insane claim, you better provide proof

the aliens paradox

"aliens exist"
"cool, can i get some proof"
*ignored and called arrogant, ignorant and entitled

[stray apex]

How can you prove something to someone who cannot think the same way that you do?

[fluid ridge]

so there's no objective standard then?

[stray apex]

If you operate on fundementally different logic than other people, than it's very hard for them to communicate with you

[fluid ridge]

glad we agree

[fossil frost]

you still havnt tried to answer the question though

[manic torrent]

Everything you talk about is extremes - all or nothing. It's fundamentally broken, and the reason you're ignore is because it's stupid

[stray apex]

What, that UI is a field with many objective elements?

[fluid ridge]

i asked for evidence on a subject that he claimed was objective, he has yet to provide me that evidence

i see no evidence of extremity whatsoever

[stray apex]

A back button that's easy to press in an app where you need to go back a lot is objectively better than one that's in the top left corner apple

[manic torrent]

❤️

[fluid ridge]

what makes you say this? what if i like apple's back button on the top left?

[echo ridge]

What have I missed

[stray apex]

Then you are objectively incorrect

[fluid ridge]

what is the objective standard that says apple's back button placement is objectively bad?

i am simply asking for the standard here

[stray apex]

The standard that says that UI should be easy to use

[fluid ridge]

who says apple's UI is harder to use?

is that why they represent the gold standard of mobile phones?

[stray apex]

Generally speaking, actions that the user will perform more often should be easier to perform

[fossil frost]

you didnt say that... you also didnt say "there isnt one defined standard way of doing things, UI can be quite subjective, and what works for one demographic may not work for another, but they will share patterns of HOW the design works, and those patterns are universal in human psychology and can be weaponised and used against people to trick them into doing things they otherwise wouldnt do, in the same way that a lot of people can be tricked by regular human sales people"...

[fluid ridge]

all of this is completely unobjective

[stray apex]

UI is absolutely not subjective

[manic torrent]

yeah but it started with Triage saying it was ENTIRELY opinion

[cloud forum]

Does anyone else want popcorn?

[stray apex]

Putting the back button in the corner farthest from where most people can reach in apps where the user will want to go back frequently is objectively dumb and bad

[fluid ridge]

because it is?

[manic torrent]

There we go 😄

[fluid ridge]

what looks good and bad will be different to different people, what functions are needed will be different from person to person etc.

[fossil frost]

unless your objective is to make sure they dont use it, and to push them to use something else...

[fluid ridge]

this feels like common sense...

[fossil frost]

thus, there are 2 different ways of looking at the same thing... so... subjective

[stray apex]

Lmao did apple monetize their settings menus

Is apple trying to use dark patterns so I'll pay them to switch sim cards

No
It's just shit design

[fluid ridge]

(in your opinion)

[stray apex]

objectively

Programmer UI is a thing for a reason

And that reason is that programmers are by and large garbage at designing UI, because there are correct and incorrect ways to do things

[cloud forum]

Look at Windows with it's center taskbar

Absolutely horrid design

[fluid ridge]

objectivity: gravity has a rate of acceleration on earth of 9.81 meters per second squared (provable, scientific fact that does not change regardless of who you ask, because it's reality)

subjectivity: "i find twitter easier to navigate, compared to something like say reddit or discord"
"Really? i actually think it's the other way around but that's cool"

subjectivity: "my favorite flavor of soda is actually cherry coke"
"ewww, no way, cherry coke sucks! i prefer vanilla"

[stray apex]

Of course if your goals for UI are "lmao who knows" then there can be no objective truths because you have no objective whatsoever

[fossil frost]

didnt google force android phones to ditch the 3 hardware buttons over the course of a few generations? and they added a bunch of stuff into android that you could only do via the exact same screen buttons, and not via the hardware buttons, to trick people into using the screen buttons more than the hardware buttons, so they could justify making manufacturers get rid of the hardware buttons.... now... hardware buttons were a very good thing for people who want to use a phone with some tactile feedback... but having the buttons be software buttons, lets you do a lot more with them... so... objectively good, and objectively bad, depending on who you are and how you look at the exact same decision... you said that Triage was being closed minded and incapable of looking at things from your POV, you seem like you are unable to look at any other POV other than your own

[manic torrent]

hey Triage, why does google have an "I'm feeling lucky" button

[stray apex]

No, people just prefer phones with more screen real estate

[fluid ridge]

ask google

i didnt put it there

[stray apex]

It's a market thing, not a Google forcing manufacturers thing

[manic torrent]

I don't need to, I already know

[cloud forum]

Now I wanna know

[fossil frost]

again, very closed minded view of things. what about the huge kickoff at the time from partially sighted people who rely on the hardware buttons for tactile feedback?

[fluid ridge]

i dont know what it does because ive never clicked on it before so i cant answer your question

[polar fern]

The friendly keyboard? https://a.co/d/cMjG1dd

[fossil frost]

for them, it was an entirely terrible thing to do

[stray apex]

They were too small a demographic to affect market trends

[fluid ridge]

but if you would like to look into google design i suggest contacting someone over there at google lol

[stray apex]

Do you not understand how mass manufacturing and scale works?

[manic torrent]

in fact, barely anyone does, and yet it remains

[polar fern]

Huge phones are terrible.

[fluid ridge]

statistically you would probably be very correct yes

[manic torrent]

I know I am correct.

[fossil frost]

we are not discussing market trends, we are discussing whether or not design is subjective (i.e. the same thing can be viewed different ways by different people, or whether it is inherently 1 way or the other no matter who you are)... stop deflecting...

[fluid ridge]

i said probably because im not sure but making an educated guess here

so where is this going bob?

[stray apex]

Why are you bringing up decisions made due to market trends then?

[polar fern]

What I even walk into here.

[cloud forum]

I'm lost at this point but it's funny

[polar fern]

🤔

[stray apex]

We're talking about the objectivity of UI design, but you're bringing up decisions that were made to sell more phones

[fossil frost]

it was a design decision, where 1 group of people thought it was good, and one group of people thought it was bad... but its the same decision, if that design decision was purely objectively good, OR objectively bad... why do we have 2 different groups of people who are split over the design decision?

again, you are failing to see anything from any other viewpoint than your own

[fluid ridge]

can we agree that what people find useful and what people find visually appealing will change from person to person @stray apex

a simple yes or no will suffice

[stray apex]

More people preferred larger screens with no hardware buttons than smaller screens with larger bezels

[manic torrent]

it exists to make people happy. It brings balance to the force.

[stray apex]

Therefore, manufacturers elected to adopt software buttons to sell more phones

[manic torrent]

it OBJECTIVELY improves the site.

[stray apex]

It's not hard

[polar fern]

Gimme a home button any day

[cloud forum]

Doesn't the removal of the buttons remove a possible point of failure aswell?

[fluid ridge]

huh?

[velvet marsh]

as well as ingress

[stray apex]

Yeah, probably makes the devices cheaper

[fossil frost]

ffs... somebody else trying their hardest to miss the point

[cloud forum]

So no buttons = better

[stray apex]

Your point has big Twitter energy

[manic torrent]

also, what people find appealing is a combination of personal, cultural, as well as deep structures. The way people work is generally within a spectrum and you can get it right for most people most of the time if you do it well.

[fossil frost]

i honestly dont care anymore... im sick of trying to speak to people about things they clearly have already made up their mind on and are 100% unwilling to see any other POV

[polar fern]

The home button is solid state not a clicky one

[fluid ridge]

so... it's subjective?

[manic torrent]

dude, again, the world is not a black and white place

[stray apex]

It's not subjective, because you don't design UIs for aliens that you know nothing about

[fluid ridge]

unless you're going to make the claim that personal, cultural and "deep structures" are the same or very similar in every person

[stray apex]

You design UIs for your target audience

[fluid ridge]

of course

[stray apex]

A user interface is designed with specific goals in mind

[polar fern]

I guess blocking that person weeks ago was a good idea.

[fluid ridge]

right but thats not what im arguing

[stray apex]

There are objectively correct and incorrect ways to achieve goals with user design

[fluid ridge]

#public-chat message

[stray apex]

And there are objectively correct goals in user design

[fossil frost]

if there is a specific black and white right and wrong way of doing something... its objective... there is no black and white right and wrong way of doing design.... there are black and white right and wrong ways of doing certain elements of design, but not any given entire design...

[fluid ridge]

if you would please give an answer

[polar fern]

Mmm so tasty.

[stray apex]

Are you so daft that you genuinely have not understood that UX is more than visual appeal?

[stray apex]

Also, visual appeal has a great many objective elements as well

[fossil frost]

you are on about design, not experience

[fluid ridge]

if it makes you sleep better at night ill add in function to that question

[fossil frost]

dont change the subject yet again

[stray apex]

User interface is almost all of user experience

[runic lagoon]

Yah, but you can track analytics to see what’s effective for conversion rates. That’s why patron takes you to a sells page. Explains the perks, instead of a blank page to create an account.

[fluid ridge]

wait i already did!

can we agree that what people find useful, what features people will use, and what people find visually appealing will change from person to person @stray apex

[fossil frost]

my UI and UX teams at work would completely disagree with you

[fluid ridge]

there we go, i added some details that dont change the main point

yes or no

[stray apex]

Yes, and there are elements that enough of your userbase will desire to be objective goals

[fluid ridge]

taking quite a long time to type a 2-3 letter word

[manic torrent]

yes, but the variations are on a bell curve, which makes it possible to have objectively better and worse.

[stray apex]

Again
Putting the back button in a menu that people may have to dig around in is objectively bad

[fluid ridge]

this is good enough for me

[polar fern]

Man this whole conversation is past my ability to be silly. 😬

[fluid ridge]

i think this is the furthest we will go today

[manic torrent]

it's ok at this point to say "actually I'm an idiot and I don't understand bell curves and I refuse to research or learn anything"

[fluid ridge]

projecting quite far bob

[stray apex]

No no, everything is subjective and objectivity only exists in pure math

[manic torrent]

oh, my brother in christ.

[polar fern]

Bell curves, sounds pretty but also a graph

[cloud forum]

Sounds like math

[manic torrent]

you want to do science... going to come with some math

[stray apex]

Anyways
UI is objective

[hot bobcat]

im back after a long time lol

[stray apex]

And apple putting the back button in the top left is super dumb

[full fossil]

I really like my Christmas presents :)

[cloud forum]

I always disliked math, was kinda easy though and never had science lessons

[polar fern]

Science is a method of discovering properties & dispelling incorrectness.

[stray apex]

Yeah, but that's not what science class is

[manic torrent]

You didn't.. have ... science. What the fuck? What sort of fucked up cult did you grow up in

[polar fern]

Mhm

[hot bobcat]

i got a small quetion why is virtual desktop better for vr then occulus link ? even with my ryzen 5 i get poor performance with link

[stray apex]

Virtual desktop has better wireless stuff iirc?

[cloud forum]

The Netherlands. Not every college gives science lessons in a lab

[hot bobcat]

then i spent 50 on a 10ft cable for nothing

[manic torrent]

You don't get science lessons in a lab, you get science as a compulsory subject all the way through schooling

[stray apex]

You could have just bought a decent router for that much

[cloud forum]

Not over here apparently

[hot bobcat]

internet where i am isnt great like 50mbps download speed

[stray apex]

So you never learned about chemistry or biology or physics or anything like that in school?

[stray apex]

Internet is totally irrelevant for oculus link

[cloud forum]

I meam we did have biology but other than that not really no

[stray apex]

All that matters is your hardware

[stray apex]

Biology is science though...?

[hot bobcat]

well i do have a ryzen 5 and a 1050ti thats like minamum for vr

[cloud forum]

When you said "science" I thought of flasks and lab coats

[stray apex]

Oh
Yeah
I'd worry more about upgrading your gpu

[cloud forum]

Maybe it's my 2 AM brain

[hot bobcat]

i do plan on getting a 2080 this summer

[vapid smelt]

you living in 2008?

[hot bobcat]

nah i live in the country and where i live in particuler there isnt many providers

[manic torrent]

anyway, long story short, Triage is objectively an idiot

And now, I am buying parts for my crane mounted PC

[stray apex]

But from their perspective, they're not an idiot, so isn't it subjective?
What even is reality?

[manic torrent]

See now you're into Dunning-Kruger

[stray apex]

Idk what that is but it sounds dumb

[full fossil]

you know what else sounds dumb?

[stray apex]

This message from our sponsor?

[vapid smelt]

I cant believe Santa isn't real

[full fossil]

i was going to say your voice when it echoes off a mountain but not specifically your voice just anyones voice they hear come back at them

[full fossil]

dude wtf spoilers

[runic lagoon]

Is it ridge wallet?

[stray apex]

How is ridge still in business, anyways?

I can't imagine that there are that many people who would want a ridge wallet that don't already own one

[vapid smelt]

they make like $80 per wallet

[stray apex]

I guess two small sheets of metal and some elastic can't cost much

[manic torrent]

I haven't carried a wallet for years

[vapid smelt]

and they make at least $80 on this knife, same steel used in $25-50 knifes

[stray apex]

eh, D2 is still pretty solid

[modern storm]

what gen

[stray apex]

with knives over like $50, you're really paying for machining quality and design

I mean, assuming it's not like magnacut or something

[hot bobcat]

3, i have the 5600g

[modern storm]

nice

[vapid smelt]

i agree

[modern storm]

planning to buy 5600x soon

[hot bobcat]

nice, its better then the g so i heard lol

though i like the fact the base clock of the g is 3.9ghz

[stray apex]

yeah, functionally there's no real difference, but (I assume) that ridge spends more on machining and whatnot

ridge probably doesn't have the economies of scale that kershaw gets with knives, either

[modern storm]

well i dont need the g version since g means apu

[vapid smelt]

or more in advertisements

[modern storm]

i have a gtx 1050 ti lol

[stray apex]

"brand value"

[vapid smelt]

true

[stray apex]

I'm probably also biased because pocket knives is a stupid expensive hobby that makes no sense

[vapid smelt]

i have too many knifes... every year in boy scout camp i bought knives

[hot bobcat]

yeah

[modern storm]

briish

[modern storm]

and also the 5600x can overclock

but idk if my motherboard can handle it lol

[stray apex]

why overclock when you can press the pbo button

[modern storm]

lo

have no idea what a pbo button is

im a intel user

[graceful burrow]

Precision boost overdrive

Think of it like a boost unlocker

[hot bobcat]

pbo is new to me 2

[modern storm]

okay ill research about it

[wary summit]

why can I access Google with roaming?

[stray apex]

pbo basically tells the cpu to boost harderer
the computer is better at making the cpu boost higher than you are

[graceful burrow]

Pbo rules

[wary summit]

is that normal

Precision Boost Overdrive on a laptop

[modern storm]

the motherboard is b450 b450m a ii

can it handle it

[runic lagoon]

That’s why most hobbies are hobbies.

[full fossil]

hoobie

[neon mesa]

Celery

AMTel RynomCore i57 X4 Cellery Inside

[gilded quest]

I want the celery sticker lmao

[ruby bloom]

Intel Celery inside, Yummy.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Intel-Celery-by-callumpy/14338559.EJUG5 $5

[green monolith]

I’m surprised in today’s Christmas vid that it was MSI that sponsored and not the usual SeaSonic “Merry Christmas” one.

[graceful burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChIs72whgZI9w6d6FhwGGHA/community?lb=Ugkx1ufm36Crhz1EpUDpcrFe2IFEp0LEsUNg
shoutouts to arctic btw

[vapid smelt]

you mean the bestbuy video that came out 2 days ago

[winter spindle]

Floatplane?

[green monolith]

Oh on my vid it says 7 hours ago lol, but last year it was also on the Christmas one

[polar fern]

That’s a floatplane thing

[vapid smelt]

ofc

[polar fern]

Laughs in poverty

[winter spindle]

You have to pay for floatplane?

[green monolith]

Ya

[golden lily]

bro

[graceful burrow]

ye

[winter spindle]

L

[warm rivet]

Yo

Is it normal for some membrane keyboard to sound mechanical

[neon mesa]

Just print at your local print shop
Probably 2$ and no shit shipping

[graceful burrow]

some of them advertise mechanical feel and sound

[warm rivet]

A Logitech k120 🤣

Cuz mine sounds mechanical

[graceful burrow]

idk
it doesnt really matter

[manic torrent]

at that point... buy a mechanical?

[polar fern]

Feel?

[neon mesa]

Logitech k120 is the best budget keyboard

[warm rivet]

True

[graceful burrow]

that's literally what im saying

[neon mesa]

Nothing at $8 price point beats it

[warm rivet]

It sounds really clicky

[polar fern]

Mechanical feel for her pleasure? 🤔

[graceful burrow]

transit shut up

[neon mesa]

Price

[manic torrent]

$8 pricepoint? The only thing I want at an $8 pricepoint is like... a burger.

[graceful burrow]

he spittin

[neon mesa]

The K120 is really good tho

[warm rivet]

It feels good

[neon mesa]

And a keyboard is kinda useless going overkill unlike a mouse where you need it for aiming

[warm rivet]

And sounds alright

[warm rivet]

True

[neon mesa]

Unless you type a lot

It's just WASD Shift Space

[warm rivet]

Yup

[neon mesa]

The same regardless what you use

[warm rivet]

If you play rhythm you need mechanical tho

I use membrane and response suck

[polar fern]

Quality https://a.co/d/fxijiSW

[manic torrent]

If you don't type a lot, you're using a computer wrong....

We're literally typing right now

[warm rivet]

I'm on phone

[neon mesa]

Even for productivity a lot of jobs don't need much typing

[neon mesa]

Discord don't require 2000 words does it

[warm rivet]

Lol

When I listened to the recording I took from the k120 I was mindmixed

[manic torrent]

I mean, I feel like more than $8 isn't a tough ask for something you use for hours every day, and is a touch interface

[neon mesa]

It's diminishing return beyond that

[manic torrent]

Well yeah

[neon mesa]

At that point I'm just paying for brand and puke lights

[graceful burrow]

Have you ever actually held a desk/office job

[manic torrent]

Because $8 is offensively low. It's not possible to make a product that cheap without some serious negative externalities

A keyboard should not cost $8

[golden lily]

how

[neon mesa]

Try a logitech k120 and feel yourself

[golden lily]

r u all doing this thing with your pfp

[graceful burrow]

Nitro

[manic torrent]

Being awesome

[graceful burrow]

Paying 10 bucks*

[polar fern]

I feel like $8 is sus tier for most tech things

[neon mesa]

And the nearest upgrade is like $40

[golden lily]

ffs ofc my nitro runs out when this shit is added

[neon mesa]

You'd be surprised
The logitech k120 is simply that good for the price

[austere valve]

do u think price and specs are goof for this laptop https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/computers/laptops/lenovo-legion-5-15.6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen5-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-rtx-3050-ti-4gb-graphics-82jw00hwau.html

[warm rivet]

I used this k210 for 5 years now and it lasted longer then some mechanical keyboards that coated 30x the price.

[neon mesa]

My k120 lasted 4 years before my dog bit off the cable

[manic torrent]

That's not what I am saying.

[warm rivet]

So $8 is enough to last

[polar fern]

The K120 is $16

[manic torrent]

I used a das keyboard at work for literally 10 years

[warm rivet]

8 here

[neon mesa]

8 here

Yours simply overpriced

[warm rivet]

True

[neon mesa]

Not used or some offbrand store
Literally from Logitech official ecomm shop here

The k120 is like a default office keyboard

[warm rivet]

They don't wear that much since it's rubber being contained not bad.

[neon mesa]

It's mass produced so hard the price tanked

[manic torrent]

Ok, so how do you manufacturer the keyboard for $8? How does the BOM, transport, and profit for manufacturer and retailer factor into that

[neon mesa]

Idk ask logitech and the power of mass production

[golden lily]

slavery

[warm rivet]

The keyboard costs like $1.20 to make

[manic torrent]

Someone skipped to the end of the book 😉

[manic torrent]

Does it?

[warm rivet]

Probably

[neon mesa]

Slavery or simply mass production at a large scale using automated robots making the price low

[solar needle]

Anyone good at monitor stands? lol

[manic torrent]

Oh! My specialty

[neon mesa]

The logitech k120 is so simple and easily mass produced

$999 monitor stand from apple

[manic torrent]

You are missing my point

[golden lily]

Finally you are useful for once 😘

[neon mesa]

You're trying to call it slavery when it's just large scale production

Using robots probably

[solar needle]

Ok I sent you a DM

[golden lily]

robots r slaves

[neon mesa]

Tools

[winter spindle]

They’re robots

[manic torrent]

I didn't read it, that's not how this works

[winter spindle]

They can’t be slaves because they’re robots

[solar needle]

?

[golden lily]

r they getting paid?

[manic torrent]

You can just talk to me here. I don't DM randos

[solar needle]

Will this monitor stand https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/gorilla-arms-single-gas-spring-powered-monitor-mount-black/32111835?rrec=true fit on this monitor https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MONAOC62702

[warm rivet]

Apple's ass gets beaten by a keyboard 10 euro's and more functional then a 1000 euro stand

[winter spindle]

Do they need to get paid? Do they have families? No.

[golden lily]

Yeah because they r slaves

[winter spindle]

They’re robots for gingus sake

[warm rivet]

Also the k120 does not get produced anymore I think

[graceful burrow]

Good

[polar fern]

🤔

[golden lily]

yk ima stop arguing with you cuz its going nowhere 😄

[warm rivet]

There is no ,

[golden lily]

delivery?

[polar fern]

$24 usd

[manic torrent]

Two things:

1. You asked the question well and provided links. Awesome
2. You didn't need to ask if anyone knows about monitor stands because this is an easy question.

The answer is : yes

[warm rivet]

25 lol

[winter spindle]

Gaming console lol

[polar fern]

🤣

Yes only the best

[solar needle]

Thank you hardware bob

[neon mesa]

Still does

[graceful burrow]

Shame

[neon mesa]

K120 is simply supply and demand in play

In this case supply is shit ton

[polar fern]

There we go!!! https://a.co/d/7HhVEkm

[golden lily]

i reckon my "robots" could make that for cheaper

[inner lichen]

I drank alot of wine to clap for longer, and i am gonna celebrate Christmas by clapping , who understood?😝

[golden lily]

christmas over tho

[inner lichen]

It’s 6.15 pm, December 25th here

[golden lily]

oh

[inner lichen]

Where did tht ‘hv fun’ message go ?

[jagged dune]

time zones

[polar fern]

https://a.co/d/3a7WMt0

[jagged dune]

I've found wired mouses to be better then wireless

[inner lichen]

Why , how, how u tested, explain in details

[jagged dune]

tbf i didnt test much, every wiresless I've gotten sucked

it always was "laggy" ig? idk how to explain it

I've has about 7-8 wireless, all sorts of brands and they all did the same thing.. Now i have some weird offbrand wired and i've had no problems

(the wireless didnt work no matter what I used, PC, Xbox, Laptop.. none of it.)

[polar fern]

Wireless has lag always

[jagged dune]

well its AWFUL for fps games

[indigo plume]

most valorant pro players I follow use wireless lol

[polar fern]

It’s bad for gaming in general

Productivity it’s fine

[jagged dune]

Normal usage i had no problems but when i needed to game and be quick with movements, it just didnt work.

[polar fern]

Audio is worse tho wireless.

[jagged dune]

I've gotten a wired and i dont think i'll ever buy wireless again

[polar fern]

Yeah

[indigo plume]

like the grpo wirless has like a 1ms input delay

[graceful burrow]

logitech's wireless mice beat wired mice kek

[indigo plume]

logitech wirless mice has next to no lag

[jagged dune]

except for prolly a laptop or smth considering i dont use my laptop for anything other then simple work

[graceful burrow]

i use a wireless g502 and wont ever use anything else it's fucking

elite

[indigo plume]

its a trasformer

[polar fern]

No peppa. Batteries are bad mmmkay

[jagged dune]

lol

[indigo plume]

and has double click problem

[graceful burrow]

idk what you mean by that i wont lie

[indigo plume]

Design it over the top and unnecessary

Also to heavy

[jagged dune]

RGB is useless

[polar fern]

Woah. These had a huge price cut https://a.co/d/8Q33xAb

[austere bloom]

is there a channel for mouses?

im trying to get a mouse for myself thats affordable and thought this would be a great place to get advice for

[golden lily]

what are you gonna be using it for

gaming? work?

[graceful burrow]

wired g502 was 30 bucks like three days ago might look into that

[golden lily]

i got my razer viper for $40 and its lasted me a year and a bit

[jagged dune]

There should be
i dont think there is, But there should be

#peripherals has a channel

[austere bloom]

yeah, gaming

[austere bloom]

aud or usd? if its usd thats 50$ aud... im looking for up to 30 aud, and currently the best ones i see are g203 wired and steelseries rival 3

[golden lily]

r ur hands big or smoll

[inner lichen]

Ok
I will use wired mouse then

I am too drunk to notice lag😂

[austere bloom]

normal teenage hands

[graceful burrow]

30 usd

[austere bloom]

yeah then nah no can do my friend

[golden lily]

https://www.amazon.com.au/Razer-Viper-Ultralight-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B084RPZD6T/ref=asc_df_B084RPZD6T/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341792422718&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6564969805724684248&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071657&hvtargid=pla-892197139331&psc=1 this is the one that ive got and its lasted me a long time

its very good quality

[austere bloom]

same one as this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084RPZD6T?tag=vc000-20

[golden lily]

yes

[austere bloom]

this ones 30 aud, but ive heard alot of complaints about razer for mouses in general so

[golden lily]

you do you

for me its worked really well

ngl i feel like ive most likely clicked my mouse buttons a few million times

[full fossil]

Yo can anyone check out my tech support thread

[austere bloom]

how would you say it performs on games such as csgo or valorant?

[modern storm]

id rather buy pulsefire haste from hyperx

im using it rn, it's a very good mouse

[vapid smelt]

pay me $20 then i will

[full fossil]

20$ if u fix it

deadass

[vapid smelt]

i charge $20 for inspections

[full fossil]

Got 20 sitting in my cashapp

Aight then you losing an easy 20 lmao

[modern storm]

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Pulsefire-Haste-Ultra-Lightweight-Programmable/dp/B08NSJFNSS?th=1

[vapid smelt]

EW a HP mouse

https://esportsinsider.com/2021/06/hp-hyperx

[modern storm]

didnt have to do me like that man..

[austere bloom]

ive narrowed down my choices to 3 mice

[modern storm]

i'm using it rn and its good

its better than model o and viper mini

[austere bloom]

https://www.amazon.com.au/Logitech-G203-Hero-Lightsync-Black/dp/B07YN82X3B?tag=georiot-au-default-22&ascsubtag=tomsguide-au-1392018134716502500-22&geniuslink=true&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08176SM7C?tag=vc000-20&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084RPZD6T?tag=vc000-20&th=1

[viral sentinel]

Uhhh guysss
Technoblade uploaded!?

[austere bloom]

which one is the best?

[modern storm]

didn't he die

[viral sentinel]

He did…

It was technodad

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8C6qqs/logitech-g-pro-hero-wired-optical-mouse-910-005439

[modern storm]

techno deez nu

[modern storm]

it was made before hp got hyperx

[austere bloom]

2 options from 55$

[full fossil]

𝕳𝖔𝖜 𝖉𝖔𝖊𝖘 𝖔𝖓𝖊 𝖚𝖓-𝕱𝖚*𝖐 𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖊 𝖋𝖔𝖓𝖙 𝖔𝖓 𝖕𝖈

[austere bloom]

way way outta budget

[vapid smelt]

only $3 more than the shitty razer mouse you posted

[modern storm]

razer

[austere bloom]

look above that message, amazon is saying 55$

[modern storm]

im literally sharting and crying because its so overrated

[austere bloom]

i posted 3 mouses, razer was one of them and i only did it because some guy here said it was good.. i aint say razer was good

[austere bloom]

i cant send images here but it is saying here that its 55

[vapid smelt]

are you in the US?

[austere bloom]

nope

[vapid smelt]

then why post USA links......

[austere bloom]

hold on let me check something real quick

[austere bloom]

those where us links>?

[vapid smelt]

the bottom two are so the majority

[austere bloom]

mustve been links from others then, i thought amazon automatically changes region currency?

[vapid smelt]

how many emu dollars is your budget

[austere bloom]

30 emu dollars

[modern storm]

jesus are you broke

[vapid smelt]

so are you

[austere bloom]

thanks sherlock holmes

[modern storm]

my mouse is at least 50 upside down dobloons

[manic torrent]

get more money

[vapid smelt]

i vote on the logitech

[austere bloom]

the g203?

[vapid smelt]

[austere bloom]

thanks

[full fossil]

What’s up

[spare lintel]

7000 Games (Playable and Verified) on the Steam Deck!

[red breach]

merry chrysler everyone

[vapid smelt]

what if people celebrate Hyundai

[red breach]

happy honda days

[candid kelp]

What games can I run on a intel core duo and 6 gb ram

[graceful burrow]

half-life 1

[dense coral]

Minecraft

Roblox

On medium settings for best frames

[full fossil]

@vapid smelt tight fit

[vapid smelt]

now its blocking most of the fans :/

[round flare]

That's what

[full fossil]

I have a 240 to stick up top, and there’s actually little to no restriction

This is just to make sure it fits with the gpu in place

[vapid smelt]

seems to me half the res is blocking the front intake for the cooler

[full fossil]

It does, by about half a milimeter

[full fossil]

It’ll be water cooled

And the res is far back enough that it does block

[polar fern]

That’s a compelling price if you want that big sound for your tv or pc

Oops thought I sent that earlier

[heady flicker]

hm?

[polar fern]

This https://a.co/d/8Q33xAb

[heady flicker]

was it like a message you wrote a long time ago and then discord was like, "nope. not until a time as passed"

logitech and all their confusing naming schemes

[polar fern]

Mhm

[red spindle]

linus and tech and tip

hi ltt people

[polar fern]

No

[graceful burrow]

transit there's no need to be rude

did your driver come in

[polar fern]

Cat yoga now. Go!

[vapid smelt]

10/10 thumbnail

[polar fern]

Rude? Wat?

[graceful burrow]

did you get your driver tho

[full fossil]

Any meta quest power users in here that could answer a network question for me

[polar fern]

This mouse makes no sense:

[manic torrent]

gorillas.bas

[polar fern]

Unreal tournament 2k4

[wary summit]

how's the snow Americans

[polar fern]

Snow?

No snow just dangerous freezing ass cold

[vapid smelt]

battery+ wood= good

[polar fern]

Bamboo but yeah

MDF bottom piece on the keyboard

[solid hatch]

Hello, I have a problem.

I bought a used 6600xt and tested it on GTA V and Marvel Spiderman.

In gta v the speed is 75 frames per second and in marvel spider man 60 frames per second.

In the test of YouTubers, I saw that it is 120 or 130 fps in gta v and 100 or 90 fps in spider man.

Is there a problem with the graphics card?

[graceful burrow]

what cpu do you have

[polar fern]

What processor?

[graceful burrow]

and were you running at the same resolution as the benchmarkers?

[vapid smelt]

is sam enable

[polar fern]

And ram

Cold.

[strange crane]

damn

[polar fern]

Mhm

[vapid smelt]

it tropical over here Freedom units

[solid hatch]

i5 10400

[polar fern]

And the one they used?

[manic torrent]

And is your card using x16 pcie?

[strange crane]

probably the resolution ig `

[manic torrent]

Is your setup thermal throttling?

Have you the brain worms?

[solid hatch]

yes the benchmarkers is on 1080p and i test it on 1080p

[vapid smelt]

most youtubers use the fastest cpu so the only bottle neck could be the gpu

[polar fern]

@solid hatch and their processor?

[solid hatch]

yes only graphics card

[polar fern]

…

[solid hatch]

same mine , 10400

[vapid smelt]

is your ram in dual channel

[polar fern]

I5?

[solid hatch]

yes , 16gb 3200

[solid hatch]

yes

[vapid smelt]

the ram is in slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 4?

[polar fern]

Thermals while playing?

[solid hatch]

yes

[manic torrent]

Did you check with GPU-Z

[polar fern]

Card identical?

[solid hatch]

on CPU ? yes the CPU temp is 33 in ide and while playing is 60

[polar fern]

Hm

[heady flicker]

have you installed the latest drivers for the rx 6600 xt yet

[solid hatch]

yes

[solid hatch]

the GPU Specifications?

[polar fern]

Is it the same graphics card sku?

[vapid smelt]

@solid hatch what video are you referring to that you compered to

a rx 6600xt is a 6600xt unless its factory overclocked out the ass it will perform the same

[solid hatch]

no i think in tests they used MSI and Mine is Sapphire pules

[polar fern]

Ahh that might be it

[vapid smelt]

^

all gpu models perform nearly identically

[strange crane]

maybe they used FSR or something

[vapid smelt]

is this on?.

[solid hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJqoDRLYUQ

[solid hatch]

i don't think so,

[manic torrent]

GPU z reports the actual pcie speed. I had a riser which was broken and limiting my pcie speed to 2x which was a problem.

[heady flicker]

is smart access memory even worth enabling

[manic torrent]

No we are talking about it for shits and giggles

And all the benchmarking people did on it is just for laughs

It's a good thing you didn't bother to Google for it.

[vapid smelt]

only if you like a extra 20%+ performance

[heady flicker]

that's generalized

I guess it doesn't hurt to enable it

except I'd have to reformat my entire drive

this is like the only time I regret only having 1 drive

[vapid smelt]

?

[heady flicker]

for whatever reason I can't enable SAM

b550, ryzen 5600, rx 6600

and i should be able to

[vapid smelt]

you going into your mbo bios enable like 2 settings, boot into windows open adrenalin and enable it

[full fossil]

Hey i got a pc and rally wanted to know what i should upgrade first

CPU -Intel Core i7 5960x
GPU -Nvidia Geforce RTX 2060 12gb zotac gaming
Motherboard -Asus x99 Deluxe
32gb RAM ( 4x8 )
120gb ssd + 1TB HDD
Evga 600 wats power suply
Water cooling e Air cooled

the cpu may be old but its a X version and still kicks new ones asses

[heady flicker]

I'm aware I have to go into bios

it just won't allow me to enable SAM without getting black-screened

to which I have to remove the cmos battery and reset bios

[vapid smelt]

cpu is old af

[full fossil]

yeah but its like a special version and powerfull af

[heady flicker]

do you have a reason to upgrade?

[strange crane]

ssd probably

[heady flicker]

oh btw, it's not as powerful as you thing

[vapid smelt]

here is a $100 4 core i3

[full fossil]

yeah i wanted some shop to clone it for me

cs of windows

[strange crane]

you can go it yourself ig

[full fossil]

more fps thats why

[heady flicker]

might want to upgrade your cpu then

[full fossil]

yeah now that i think abt it ....

[heady flicker]

if it's gaming, single core performance matters the most in general because yes there are exceptions to everything

_ _

[strange crane]

but your build is a good one

[vapid smelt]

you cant compare clock speeds when factoring in different architecture

[heady flicker]

true

[full fossil]

yeah im gonna get a cpu upgrade then , but idk how it still runs gta and forza horizon 5 on ultra whit rtx 100+ fps, prob bcs of all the ram help and the somewhat good gpu

• temp never goes above 50

[cold jacinth]

What is the us/canadas hourly rate for working, in New Zealand it’s $21 an hour

[vapid smelt]

us federal minimum wage is 7.25

some states have 15 as the min

[heady flicker]

yes and 7.25/h sucks

esp since food is damn expensive now

might as well grow my own food at this point

[cold jacinth]

So it would convert to $13 a hour I think, I have no clue how some people live off of that considering everything is so expensive atm

[heady flicker]

I'd have to work 1 hour to get a head of lettuce

[cold jacinth]

Dam

It good but annoying , the nz government implemented a new law saying that cage free eggs are banned and farmers can only have free range eggs , so egg prices have doubled

[vapid smelt]

DAMN* dam is for rivers

[heady flicker]

it might as well be a dam

stopping everything in its tracks

[cold jacinth]

Lol fr

[strange crane]

☠️

[heady flicker]

I think our government even said 7.25 is not a liveable wage

[vapid smelt]

how often do you eat eggs and how much is chicken feed

[cold jacinth]

It’s the eggs that go in the shelf’s at the grocery store , so I have no clue how much they get feed but I personally don’t eat them but it’s still annoying to bake things

[vapid smelt]

could just raise your own birds

[heady flicker]

sounds like a pain

[cold jacinth]

My cat would eat them all 🤣

[full fossil]

coopa... this is gonna fucking suck

[vapid smelt]

chickens eat each other too, you can throw them scraps of your old chicken and they will eat it

[vapid smelt]

buy a new case thats meant for water cooling ez

[full fossil]

nah

@vapid smelt cases cost money

[vapid smelt]

mount your pc too your wall

[full fossil]

no

[vapid smelt]

get a job

[full fossil]

ok

[vapid smelt]

i really need to go to the bank i have over $1,300 in cash now from selling drugs from years of saving cash from holidays and birth days

[full fossil]

nice

i am officially stumped

[wispy marsh]

Good evening, it's tuesday tomorrow

[graceful burrow]

Can you sell me drugs lend me some money

[silver cradle]

Heyo

[polar fern]

@heady flicker $22.50 usd in 2019

[heady flicker]

can you highlight the message for which the context of that message is in

[polar fern]

No

It’s WAY overdue for update

[heady flicker]

I'm trying very hard to put the pieces together

are you trying to say, 7.25/h is stupid in 2022

to which, I can say I agree

[polar fern]

It’s slave wages.

[heady flicker]

it's dreadful

[sullen wasp]

You want to talk about slave wages. You must come work in South Africa my friend🤣 .

[polar fern]

Well I don’t live there and thus have no say.

Plus my point was the minimum wage here needs updating.

[vapid smelt]

maybe it will get updated after the next world war

[polar fern]

Minimum wage and other issues affect the purchasing power of individuals & therefore everything else

Just like many aspects of civilisation we could be doing better.

[vapid smelt]

i just want gas to be $2.25 my medicine to be 75% cheaper and a 2 bedroom house to cost 125k

[eager notch]

If anyone was wondering, my blender spins at 13,500 rpm

[neon mesa]

PPP is an interesting metric

[vapid smelt]

seen hdds spin faster

[neon mesa]

A country can have 1/2 the GDP per capita but if the PPP multiplier is 4 it's effectively double the living standard

[vapid smelt]

pink panthers pooping?

[neon mesa]

Purchasing Power Parity

[eager notch]

15000 rpm drives are limited to mainly SAS drives

[neon mesa]

Basically fixes the misleading factor of nominal GDP

[eager notch]

Just go back to 2016 then

[neon mesa]

Move country

Plenty has below $2 gasoline and cheap healthcare

And bandages that don't cost $100

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kfw7YJ/seagate-enterprise-performance-900-gb-25-15000rpm-internal-hard-drive-st900mp0006 speed!

[neon mesa]

Gets fucked by budget ssd

In every way

[eager notch]

That's not SATA

[vapid smelt]

but 15k big number

[neon mesa]

OP interface and can't even saturate SATA 2

[eager notch]

It's only a 2.5 inch drive

Very smol pp

[neon mesa]

Same size as SSDs
But louder slower and pricier and will die faster

[vapid smelt]

try to do this with your fancy ssd

[jagged dune]

Tf

Now I'm curious

[vapid smelt]

why buy a $69 sandpaper grinder when you can use a free or $5 hdd

[jagged dune]

You have a point

Maybe I should look into this

Perhaps I will later

[eager notch]

Because they have no torque?

[vapid smelt]

get that logic out of here

[jagged dune]

Lol.

[polar fern]

Beachpaper

[livid tiger]

Can you still buy a 12 month xbl subscription?

Or is it only through old gift cards now

[vapid smelt]

lmao paying to have online access

[livid tiger]

No cus I want to know

[polar fern]

AOL says hello

[livid tiger]

My parents might get me a ps5. And if they are I'm most likely going to cancel xbl so I can get psn

But we are currently on 12month plan which is 50% off the monthly plan. And I've heard Microsoft deleted the 12 month plan from being purchased

Unless I have a gift card for it already

[modern storm]

yeah bro "might"

wait till they get you one then think about it

[livid tiger]

The issue is finding one lol.

They're going to stop trying after January comes

Cus they have been trying since beginning of december

To get one

[modern storm]

lol.. just get a pc

ez W

[crystal mirage]

wait changing from xbox to ps5 what is the point wouldn't you lose progress in games

and lose games

[livid tiger]

Most of my games are from xbl

[livid tiger]

I only have 3 actual games I bought

On xbox one

[hushed pasture]

bros living in the 1990s

[livid tiger]

The rest I've gotten for free for having xbox live

[hushed pasture]

he forgot to turn off the time machine

[modern storm]

america online lol

it was painful

[polar fern]

Not really.

[livid tiger]

I have a computer. But I don't want to Bring it with me every time I want to play on the TV in the living room

Like I have a 21 in monitor ._.

[solid hatch]

I turned off v sync and in spiderman it's fixed.
On Valhalla its get 89 or 95 fps.
But in gta v i still get 90fps to far from 130fps
And something else, i get passmark test the 12 dirtx get 34fps but in internet , i see they get 65fps.
On 3dmark
My card score get 9676
But other people get 10600 score

[livid tiger]

And I'd rather be playing on a 65in TV in the living room lol.

[modern storm]

goofy

[livid tiger]

Also it's a lot easier to play with friends on a console

Cus like most games on pc don't have split screen

[modern storm]

funny thing is im gonna get a 24 inch soon
https://store.acer.com/en-sg/ka-series-ka242ya

[modern storm]

i mean eh why dont you just go xbox

[livid tiger]

I have no clue how much that I'd as I don't live in Singapore

[livid tiger]

Cus. I've never had play station

[modern storm]

but all of your data is in xbox

[livid tiger]

Yeah

But the same could be said for my computer

[modern storm]

💀

[livid tiger]

All my data for steam is on my computer but yet here I am using an xbox

Idk how to describe it. It's not the same

On a computer I will always want to play a game but end up opening a tab and going on a whole search about the most random thing. But that doesn't happen on a console cus 1. Typing is annoying af, and 2 like I have to use my brain to get off task and then I realize what I'm doing and can actual go go playing my game

Cus it's a lot harder to do stuff like web search on console

Plus as I said earlier splitscreen multiplayer

[modern storm]

idk

you better pray you get it on time lol

also you arent paying for it

so who knows if they are gonna buy it or not

[full fossil]

12700k is dumb nowadays

[livid tiger]

Well besides a gift card with money and a speaker this year, I haven't really gotten anything so I'm hoping they can get it

[modern storm]

this year i only got a mouse, mousepad and a controller

[modern storm]

lol fr fr just get a 12600kf

[vapid smelt]

ppppft get the upcoming 13400

[solid hatch]

Is 3dmark result accurate?
I mean That is, if I take a test and the score of my graphic card differs greatly from the new scores of the site, for example a thousand points, does this mean that my card has a problem?

[vapid smelt]

most people on 3dmark OC the shit out of the cards

[solid hatch]

I took the test My graphics score was 9676. And I searched in the results section of the site and with my same CPU and my same card they had scored 10600. So these scores are due to overclocking the graphics card?

[graceful burrow]

Could be

[full fossil]

people who fawn over synthetic benchmark numbers are really.... uhhh... just go play some games dude

[normal bobcat]

hi

[solid hatch]

I just want to make sure the graphic card is okay

[full fossil]

ok

[wind pulsar]

Could be overclocking, could be because they had a card with better silicon (no card or CPU is created equal), but it's close enough to not worry about it

[midnight ember]

Can anyone help me my monitors have no signal after I enabled resizable bar in bios

[past egret]

then turn off resizable bar

[acoustic pond]

So I been waiting for over a month for this domain to go out of redemption and be deleted so I can register it I finally did it yesterday

I was wondered other people were going to snatch it too before I did but I got it ❤️

I wont put the tld here to avoid breaking the rules but it is christechtips

can't believe I got it

[midnight ember]

How when there’s no signal?

[manic torrent]

Reboot...

[brisk panther]

Can someone help me i can only plug in 3 fans and I have a total of 5 how do I plug in all five and will I be ok if I only use the aio fans

[midnight ember]

I’ve tried 6 times

[manic torrent]

Get a fan hub/splitter

[brisk panther]

Ok

[midnight ember]

I get no power for my keyboard and mouse only for my capture card

[brisk panther]

Will I be fine for now by just using my aio fans for now

[manic torrent]

I have my fans setup on splitters in groups of three

[manic torrent]

Yeah should be fine. Certainly for setup

[brisk panther]

Alright thanks for the help

[silver cradle]

Damn i got work in 7 hours

[manic torrent]

I got work in a week

[silver cradle]

I sleep long periods of time

[silver cradle]

Oh W

[zenith monolith]

Does anyone have experience with asus mobos? How to find or force a device to boot into?

[slender sapphire]

Why won't you ask that in tech chat?

[zenith monolith]

My bad i clicked wrong

[full fossil]

Let's strike, we won't work until they pay double!

[odd haven]

anybody got a site for phone cases that don't cost 50$?

(for a pixel 7 pro)

[woeful crater]

so my pc been crashing alot, can i get some help?

[zenith monolith]

Why?

I mean why does it crash

[woeful crater]

im not sure why, but it just froze up and crash, keybored mouse every led stay on everything still on, but nothing.

[inland oracle]

go down to your local mall and there will be a million stalls and stores that sell $5 phone cases

[inland oracle]

what led up to it crashing.

[woeful crater]

anything really, ive once turn it on did nothing and it crashed again. also sometimes when i start it up it i get no signal, then i have to restart it over and over to get it to start up right.

[inland oracle]

are all your components seated correctly?

don’t say yes go check them

[woeful crater]

i get your point of telling me to check but, i've already done that. ive taken everything out and re put them todathere

my pc doesnt crash when im in safe mode does that mean anything?

[woeful crater]

more then once the whole day yesterday

[sharp leaf]

Has anyone checked out the new Raid and DMZ modes in MW2. Trying to find a good video that explains both. Basically a dumb question in the COD discord servers

[latent geyser]

https://www.amazon.ae/dp/B09JQGH9WL?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_1R2Y1TK6ATEM9KJDGFHJ does anyone know if this set of ram will work on am AM5 motherboard? I only see "INTEL XMP" and apparently some DDR5 ram can only be run on certain "brands" (like one kit can only run on intel chipsets but i might be wrong)

i'm planning on upgrading to a 7600x and i got this kit of ram on christmas

[odd haven]

Ight understandable :))

[full fossil]

my dad is manhandling my cpu

[bright heron]

I today played league
Midgame i remembered very important rule
No fun for ADC players
I killed enemy ADC 19 times (3kills got stolen by lux)

[silk wolf]

Huh. I'm positively surprised by the prices of 7900 XTX I see on ebay. A lot of them are spot-on on the MSRP, or super close to it.

[full fossil]

I hope the 4080 taught them

[silk wolf]

Please excuse me as I have a refreshing cup of scalper tears

[full fossil]

[silk wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sipping-tea-andre3000-be-cool-drinking-tea-looking-over-shoulder-gif-20944451

Oh. Gifs are blocked?

[full fossil]

You cant post pictures here, so yes. Blocked

[silk wolf]

Ah well.

Can't wait to build my new machine next year

I think I'll go Team Red this time

[manic torrent]

Eh, I'm happy with what I make 🙂 honestly I don't want the responsibility.

[manic torrent]

Greens can't embed

[full fossil]

oh god, i didnt expect to get presents, but i did TwT and i dont have any for anyone

[manic torrent]

I bought my own present

[full fossil]

ill buy you a present bob

[silk wolf]

Pls do something with this one loose cable

It triggers my OCD

Really nice otherwise

[full fossil]

oh damm, i could marry that pc :V

ulala

boba sho

[latent geyser]

That looks really hot

[full fossil]

uwu

[kind reef]

[snow steppe]

My dad unironically got me the ltt screwdriver for Christmas

W dad

👏

[manic torrent]

The exhaust air is hot, certainly!

[manic torrent]

That was actually while I was testing it. The RGB isn't cable managed and set up for the new video card

You better believe that I don't allow those sort of loose cable shenanigans.

[silk wolf]

nice, nice!

I can't waaaaaaait to build my new rig. I'm jelly.

[jaunty moat]

Fuck my life... My parents bought me a prebuild from acer and don't want to listen that pc that you build yourself are much much better💀

[silk wolf]

I mean

if they bought it, they bought it, that's really nice of them

you can always upgrade it yourself

[jaunty moat]

For that price I could get myself rx 7900 xtx with r5 7600X, and this crap got i7-12700f with rtx 3070 on top of 500w psu💀

[silk wolf]

Alternatively, if they have the receipt

you could maybe discuss this with them and see if you could return it and use the same money to build your own rig.

It's the thought that counts

[jaunty moat]

can't do, they're stubborn and they think they know better lmao

[silk wolf]

well I mean

[jaunty moat]

nope, proprietary psu and mobo

[silk wolf]

i7-12700F and RTX 3070 is still decent rig

[snow steppe]

-Gets brand new PC from parents that's worth over a thousand dollars
-Complains that it's not the best option

[jaunty moat]

it is, but for 10k pln that kinda...

[snow steppe]

💀

2200€ for that, yeah, okay

I kind of get the frustration

But still

[silk wolf]

I understand the frustration, but you know

they meant well

And you still have a very good rig

[snow steppe]

That'll run anything on high at 1440 144hz minimum, just saying

[silk wolf]

I'd be grateful.

[junior tide]

what do you mean "still"
its very close to the best 1440p rig you can get

i swear to god the way people call shit old when its one generation old frustrates me

[silk wolf]

I never called it old

[junior tide]

i used a lga775 system until 2020

[silk wolf]

I just meant that yeah, for this money, one can make a better build

[snow steppe]

I don't wanna be that guy... buuuuuut
This new generation of kids is getting less and less grateful as time goes by

[silk wolf]

but that doesn't mean this build is bad

[jaunty moat]

I wnet from laptop with 3rd gen intel and equivalent of gt650

[junior tide]

yes it was a very beefed up lga 775 system but it worked

[jaunty moat]

so it's understandable I want to max out everything with the budget i get

[junior tide]

yeah value is one thing

[snow steppe]

How about this

[silk wolf]

It is understandable, but you also should be an adult when approaching the parents about this. Show them you're grateful

[jaunty moat]

What frustrates me more they think I know nothing

[snow steppe]

Be thankful, drive the rig for 5 years, then get summer job money to build your own

[junior tide]

all parents ever

[silk wolf]

This

This rig will serve you well

[junior tide]

they never believe you know shit

[jaunty moat]

I'm practically 18yrs old, they should know I know better about this topic

[snow steppe]

This isn't the tone of a 17yo, just saying

[silk wolf]

yeah.

[junior tide]

this will never change, i am 24 and an engineer, i built a massive 2200 ton factory, steel construction, they still dont think i know my shit

[jaunty moat]

Ok, I admitt I'm frustrated...

[snow steppe]

My dad got me an i5 4600 with 16gb of RAM and an ssd three years ago and I was really happy that he did that

[silk wolf]

I'm with Falcon on this. If I got a rig for 2200 euros from my parents, and it was able to run on high pretty much anything I want, I'd kiss them both and thank them

[snow steppe]

The gesture is what counts

[manic torrent]

I'm 41, I am married, have a son, career, etc .. yeah same deal 😄

[junior tide]

and do all the chores
for some time

[silk wolf]

^ this

[snow steppe]

^

[silk wolf]

Then just pick up a summer job

set some money aside.

[jaunty moat]

wait wait wait

[silk wolf]

and build your own rig in a bit

[snow steppe]

I got my current 2080, 32gb ram and 12100f with savings :/

[junior tide]

and never let games get in front of your responsibilities
you can pay them back in good grades and well manners

[jaunty moat]

Can I return the pc after let's say half a year and get a refund ?

[junior tide]

trust me thats all they want

[silk wolf]

usually refunds only go for a month

[junior tide]

no but you can sell it in used market

[snow steppe]

Nope, generally there's a two week window

[jaunty moat]

ah

[manic torrent]

Living well is the best revenge

[silk wolf]

or two weeks yea

[snow steppe]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jaunty moat]

well, it is what it is

[silk wolf]

Depends on the country

[junior tide]

i love you bob

[silk wolf]

They did a very thoughtful gesture, they meant the best and spent a fair bit of money on you

[junior tide]

yeah man you should be happy your parents treat you like this

[snow steppe]

Instead of looking at it as a missed opportunity to get you the best possible PC, look at it as an incredible machine that cost your parents a whole paycheck because they wanted to give you a special present

Because that's what it is

[jaunty moat]

I'm still salty about prebuilt but this is the biggest upgrade I ever experienced

[junior tide]

this chat is so positive its almost g-nevermind

[silk wolf]

If you want them to believe in you and your capabilities, prove it to them

Be an adult

[snow steppe]

Go thank them, say sorry if you didn't have the best attitude when unpacking it, and try to act your age so they don't use that as a reason to tell you "do you have gift money?" next year

[jaunty moat]

I presented them a build that's 1k PLN more and would blow my new Orion 3000 out of water but they didn't listen

I suppose I'm at fault tbh

[snow steppe]

You won't even think about the PC you could've gotten once you'll be running your games. Why be mad about that?

[silk wolf]

1k PLN is a lot of money. I'm saying that as someone who is from Poland :D

[junior tide]

yeah man, apologize and thank them for the comput

[junior tide]

čo kurwa 😠

[snow steppe]

Bro really out there saying he showed them a 2400€ machine

[jaunty moat]

Mógłbym się dołożyć, nie byłoby problemu, ale temat zamknięty\

[snow steppe]

I'm thankful I got a shirt, bedside lamp and screwdriver for Christmas

[junior tide]

its the only thing i know in polish

[pulsar hemlock]

i got that in my wallet, it's like 200gbp

[junior tide]

we dont even have christmas man

[snow steppe]

I'm close to being 21 but still

[jaunty moat]

Chat is right, I'll go and apologize to them

[silk wolf]

I know how much it is

Good on you, bro!

[junior tide]

i also know the lyrics to a cypis song

[pulsar hemlock]

lmao

[silk wolf]

Appreciate you taking the high ground

[snow steppe]

That's better. Go enjoy your new PC and thank your parents :)

[jaunty moat]

Yeah, my asperger's telling me to minmax everything I get, so that's on me

thank yall, and I mean it

[silk wolf]

No problem, sometimes we all get frustrated about decisions people make if we disagree

[junior tide]

blast spinning cow song while you thank them

[jaunty moat]

[silk wolf]

I love good endings

[jaunty moat]

Now everyone's happy

[silk wolf]

As for parents and believing in their children - I wish my parents thought I'm not capable... xD

My mom often overestimates how capable I am.

What I do for living: professionally googles IT issues to fix them for people
What my mom thinks I'm doing: "I am literally the GOD of anything that uses electricity"

[latent radish]

stackoverflow = my knowledge

[silk wolf]

oh yeah I don't even try to dabble in coding.

That's way out of my comfort zone.

[latent radish]

we all felt powerful coding print("Hello World!")

[dusky oyster]

can someone dm me to help root my phone

[silk wolf]

eeeehhh. I used to play around with android rooting and system flashing but that was ages ago and I don't remember any of it, so I'll pass here

[dusky oyster]

alright

[silk wolf]

Don't want to be responsible for bricking your phone xD

[dusky oyster]

problem seems to be with my pc
phone looks fine
but its ok

[silk wolf]

Why don't you drop the question in tech chat/tech support?

You'll have more people glance over it

some of us people here are bound to know what they talk about

...I think.

[summer folio]

Where is #AnimeChat?
You can't be a real computer nerd without being into japanese cartoon.

[full fossil]

can anyone help me? https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1056956893731491911

[fair estuary]

This is the kind of thing I like about chat gpt. Cause I kinda suck at writing. I just write something how I'd write it then ask chatgpt to write it better and it does

Dear Mark

It's Dylan [**Redacted**]. from indeed. Just messaging you regarding the in-person/phone interview for [**Redacted**], incase you didint recieve the mesaage on indeed. I'm free after the 3rd for either option but would prefer phone interview. But whatever is easier on your end.

Kidn regards
Dylan

This is what chat gpt rewrote

Dear Mark,

This is Dylan [**Redacted**]. from Indeed. I am writing to follow up about the in-person or phone interview for [**Redacted**]. I hope you received the message on Indeed. I am available after the 3rd of January to do either an in-person or phone interview. I would prefer a phone interview, but I am open to whatever is more convenient for you.

Please let me know what works best for you and I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,
Dylan

[summer folio]

Have you tried switching the GPU fans to Noctua fans & controlling them with Speedfan?

[hollow plaza]

I have a question i9 9900k using rtx 4090 is bottleneck?

[arctic depot]

try

#tech#

tech chat 1/2 or tech-support

or build a pc

[full fossil]

Not smart

[summer folio]

Super Pi will run just fine:
The graphic card won't hold back your i9 9900K performance, no worries.

[little zenith]

Not sure if this is the best place but don't know if any floatplane specific chat.

Is anyone else having issues with the mobile app? I can load up in the browser just fine but if I try to use the app it's giving error messages. It shows that I'm subscribed on the LTT page but all of the videos show locked.