public-chat

[red spindle]

Depends on how they are being raised, but generally yeah

[tiny moss]

anyone that has done ops will tell you they f****d up big time

[polar steeple]

Till they go to school and use windows and don't know what the hell is going on

[hollow zealot]

What's really weird is gen-z is worse with problem solving on computers

[manic torrent]

children are inexperienced humans and need appropriate boundaries and supervision

[unreal thorn]

I meant 8 year olds

[stoic beacon]

*Children should be taught how to use technology with proper safeguards in place, just like every other dangerous tool in the world.

FTFY.

[unreal thorn]

that's fair

[polar steeple]

Yeah, 8 year Olds use computers in schools these daysn

[manic torrent]

oh no, how will they ever work out how to use windows. It will be so hard.

[unreal thorn]

Really? Damn.

[stoic beacon]

I definitely had my son messing around on a Windows CE laptop when he was 4, and it was good

[tiny moss]

• children people

[polar steeple]

Okay, now put yourself in the shoes of an 8 year old

[hollow zealot]

My first computer was a Chromebook

[red spindle]

Parents hand their kids their phones and they hand them back with 5 new ad filled games on them and all the accessibility features enabled, like talkback and stuff lmao

[hollow zealot]

And I'm 20

[tiny moss]

people in general need tech literacy, to realize the computer is not just a magic hat you pull rabbits out of

[stoic beacon]

Don't ever hand your kids your phone. That's very different from giving them a PC playground to experiment with.

[red spindle]

Just wait 20 years

MOST of the tech illiterate will be dead

I'd assume, I'm probably wrong

[polar steeple]

Thats their point, they won't

[stoic beacon]

No, the new generation is also tech illiterate, as well as the old generations...Linus talked about this a while back. Newer kids can't even use keyboards, word processors, email, etc.

[polar steeple]

The youngest generation is actually less tech literate, is the point they were making

[tiny moss]

I've seen people in their 20s who have doctorates and still don't completely understand how their computers work

[hollow zealot]

Which is kinda scary

[tiny moss]

"seen" as in I've witnessed them try to do dumb shit on our systems

[red spindle]

I'm 17 and I love computer stuff so that honestly sucks

[polar steeple]

How could you not know how to use a keyboard though

[stoic beacon]

Have you never witnessed people chicken peck?

[polar steeple]

Like, by definition, it's self explanatory

[red spindle]

Yeah, what do you mean by that though? Typing the "right" way, or using it in general?

[sterile haven]

we have a subject in school over here that basically teaches you excel, word, powerpoint and access, along with some things like what WiFi is and how LAN works and things

The kids are so tech illiterate that they do not know how a keyboard works, and flunk the exams with like 20%

[polar steeple]

That is...not... what "don't know how to use a keyboard" means

[fossil frost]

you are looking at it through the eyes of somebody who already knows how to do it... its like saying "how can you not speak english.. its easy" or "how can you not walk" or "how can you not swim"

[hollow zealot]

How many of y'all took a typing class

[stoic beacon]

I see people having to search for the tab key, not understanding what Enter does, not knowing that they have to hold the Shift key, etc.

[sterile haven]

was mandatory for 8th and 9th grade for us

also reading

[stoic beacon]

The difference between being able to type properly and not knowing how to type properly can actually mean the difference between failure and success.

[hollow zealot]

Mine was 6th grade

[red spindle]

I don't type the proper way because I was put in a cyber school program at a young age and never really caught on to type "correctly" because I'm not used to it. I type my way and I was still faster than most of my computer apps when I was in 7th grade

[sterile haven]

kids in my country are usually very very behind because the country is very very behind

[polar steeple]

But if you are literate in the language the keyboard caps are in its literally self explanatory

[stoic beacon]

Why would somebody hire somebody for a technical job who takes 3 hours to type virtually anything when there are people who can type a novel in seconds, giving more information, more accurate information, etc?

[polar steeple]

Because not everything is done on a keyboard? Jesus Christ what a take

[red spindle]

I type fast and I use like 3-4 fingers sometimes

[stoic beacon]

I've seen people take 20 minutes to read "Green Eggs and Ham" and they are "literate" in English, but I do not consider them literate if they cannot read it quickly

[red spindle]

I never touch right shift lol

[hollow zealot]

I had a buddy who got a job because he could type 100+ wpm

[stoic beacon]

Most things are, and to deny that is almost as stupid as the other stuff you were saying earlier

[polar steeple]

Why would anyone ever do anything when AI can do it faster?

[neon mesa]

this is pretty sick

[gilded quest]

Guess I'll just stop breathing

[hollow zealot]

What's that

[stoic beacon]

Of all the bad takes...somebody didn't watch WAN show

[polar steeple]

I mean this in the kindest way possible...but go touch grass. For real

[fossil frost]

you would be surprised about how many people press 1 key, look at the screen to check its there, then look back at the keyboard to press the next letter... yes... putting information into the keyboard and into the screen can be done by anybody. but being able to actually use a keyboard properly takes time and practice and a certain amount of dexterity, same as any skill

[neon mesa]

AI Generated

[gilded quest]

lmk when AI can drink water for me

[hollow zealot]

I thought it was arc lol

[stoic beacon]

I mean, I could tell you to get a job, or to go out into the real world as well, but I don't think that would change what you believe to be reality

I don't understand how "touching grass" would make me believe that people that can't use keyboards are suddenly super good at jobs in the tech industry.

[polar steeple]

Lmao coming from the guy who just said "most things are done on a keyboard" doesn't mean much

[stoic beacon]

What do people use the most in the tech industry then? Surely you aren't talking about the mouse, are you?

How do you interact with your computer? Are you arguing your bad takes in Discord by using text to speech?

[polar steeple]

I've been up since 3:30 AM and didn't touch a keyboard until I got home at 5. Can't explain that

[hollow zealot]

In my industry, our version of IT doesn't use a keyboard much

[fossil frost]

also... there are different types of keyboard.. my 6yo can smash out whatever he needs to write on an ipad keyboard on the touch screen... when i put him in front of an actual physical keyboard... he has fuck all clue

[manic torrent]

wtf

[polar steeple]

Bro thinks every job is a tech job or something lol

[graceful burrow]

what industry

[polar steeple]

Bro thinks if you watch LTT you must be in IT or something

Lmfao

[red spindle]

Saying lmao and lmfao after everything isn't going to make you sound any smarter

[stoic beacon]

This is a tech discord, and I would argue that a LARGE percentage of jobs in the world in general use keyboards no matter what. Accounting, IT, human resources, data extraction, research, writing, journalism, etc.

[manic torrent]

idiot mouse pushers inc

[hollow zealot]

HVAC controls technicians
You just need to be able to read information

[polar steeple]

I couldn't give less of a fuck if people on discord think I'm smart bruh

[stoic beacon]

Is that IT at that point, or is it just a trade?

[stoic beacon]

That's certainly a relief

[hollow zealot]

It's a pretty neat mix of the two
There's on site and off site techs

[manic torrent]

plenty of people in actual IT jobs that can't type for shit.

it's infuriating to watch.

[sterile haven]

i can type but not 100 wpm

[polar steeple]

Do you think this is some hard hitting blast or something? Like I said, touch grass my dude

[stoic beacon]

I'd believe that as well...my comment was for general computer literacy, but the kid decided to hyperfixate on the keyboard comment

[manic torrent]

people comment on my typing speed, but I'm hardly exceptional.

[stoic beacon]

What's your WPM? I'll judge you based on what you say.

[fossil frost]

my line manager at work, has been a developer for 30+ years... still types with 1 finger on each hand. doesnt know how to use multiple fingers to type quickly

[graceful burrow]

alright then drop the monkeytype pr

[fossil frost]

its so frustrating to watch

[hollow zealot]

At what point does a job become "IT"

[red spindle]

I think what melbawl is trying to say is there's plenty of blue collar jobs and stuff, but they seem to be too rude to give an actual example. I'm not saying I completely agree with them but I'm just curious as to why they haven't said anything like that

[manic torrent]

I would have to check

[stoic beacon]

163

[graceful burrow]

[polar steeple]

"The kid" lmfao my dude over here literally a keyboard warrior

I can't breathe I'm laughing so hard

[stoic beacon]

I'll be right back lol. This isn't the first time my WPM virtue has been challenged in LTT discord

@graceful burrow What settings do you want me to enable in monkeytype? All default, or do you want punctuation, etc?

[polar steeple]

"While you were out drinking I was studying the board"

[red spindle]

I use 1 finger on each hand and my thumb to hold left shift when needed and I can type quite fast but idk, I think if I did it the right way I could get a higher WPM but until my peers can type faster than me I probably have no reason to bother

[graceful burrow]

all default

[sterile haven]

my wpm ranges from 60-90

[hollow zealot]

I sit at about 80

[polar steeple]

"Honing my WPM, scouring the sacred Unix. And now you have the audacity to come to ME for help?"

[hollow zealot]

Bruh why are you being such a bad sport

[stoic beacon]

@graceful burrow Go check out #screenshots

[unreal thorn]

explains why they're qualified to help "The audacity to ask ME for help!"

[red spindle]

wpm
90
acc
96%
^ This is what I got on monkeytype

[sterile haven]

out of 103 monkeytype tests my average is apparently like 77

seems about right

[polar steeple]

Talk to EthanD bruh fuck outta here with this shit jumping in after the fact

[graceful burrow]

i still dont believe you kek

michael's was like 136

my highest ever was 132 but i average around 100

[hollow zealot]

I've been here all day

[stoic beacon]

I think Michael was one of the people who raced me one time

[polar steeple]

Then go back and read or shut your mouth idc

[stoic beacon]

So far, I haven't found somebody who can beat me, but that's what decades of typing practice and work will do

[manic torrent]

My typing is only around 80wpm or so

[hollow zealot]

Bruh calm your cheeks

[graceful burrow]

homie calm down dont get antagonistic

[red spindle]

Why are you so angry

[stoic beacon]

What more do you need as evidence lol?

[neon mesa]

not bad at all

[graceful burrow]

livestream it

[neon mesa]

rather small

[hollow zealot]

Video

[graceful burrow]

amd for sure

[polar steeple]

Plenty calm, yall are getting back the energy you put out into the world and complaining about it

[neon mesa]

believe it or not the base image is a 4090

[stoic beacon]

Is there any way to do that in the LTT discord?

[manic torrent]

oh, I'll put out some energy

[graceful burrow]

that matters way less than you'd think

[graceful burrow]

if you're floatplane kek

[neon mesa]

yeah because i cranked denois all the way to 100%

[stoic beacon]

Ah, unfortunate

[neon mesa]

the funny part is AMD card from nvidia base

[unreal thorn]

Yes.

[graceful burrow]

eh not bad

[polar steeple]

Oh look another mf asking for smoke just to get the panties twisted when they get it

Go on somewhere lmao

[stoic beacon]

110 is pretty good

[manic torrent]

All of this is bullshit noise - the most important thing is that my video card is stuck in another state

[hollow zealot]

Who hurt you

[red spindle]

fr

[unreal thorn]

I just wanted to see how you would react

[graceful burrow]

the average is like
66
i'm way above kek

[stoic beacon]

Especially given that the average WPM is 40

[red spindle]

Is 90 wpm good for the way I type? Should I try to do the proper way?

[graceful burrow]

90 is already fine dont worry

[polar steeple]

So literally exactly what I said. Nice.

[manic torrent]

there is no proper way

[red spindle]

I feel like it might take a while to get used to and then I'd be stuck with forcing myself to type slow for a year or two

[stoic beacon]

My method isn't exactly "proper" either, 2-3 of the keys I press are not with the "correct" finger

[unreal thorn]

It doesn't matter what way you type if you're hitting 90 lol

[manic torrent]

there is only typing, and WRONG ways

[hollow zealot]

Ethan do you use qwerty?

[unreal thorn]

Unless you're going to give yourself carpal tunnel

[stoic beacon]

But me hitting 158 WPM was because I use something similar to the "proper" way

[stoic beacon]

Yes, I use QWERTY

[fossil frost]

92 when typing random english words... wonder what my wpm would be if i took one of these tests where it judged how quickly i was typing code 🙂

[red spindle]

My typing teacher hated me and when they put the paper over our hands it was better cuz I was 2 fingering without looking and still getting decent

[hollow zealot]

That's impressive

[unreal thorn]

What did you say?

[manic torrent]

https://hackertyper.net/

[sterile haven]

idek what the proper way of typing is, they tried teaching me when i was 5 and 6 but i couldnt understand that hand layout

[stoic beacon]

Honestly, a large portion of it is probably because games didn't use to have voice chat

[graceful burrow]

homerow

[stoic beacon]

So you had to type every last thing, like "move there's a big fireball"

[hollow zealot]

That's honestly a really cool reason

[unreal thorn]

Move, there's a really small fireball!

[stoic beacon]

It's hard to learn homerow at that age without a special keyboard that is a bit smaller....a 5 year old's hands aren't quite big enough to hit the T and Y keys with the ease they should

[fossil frost]

100% gonna have that up in starbucks at the weekend... gonna freak some people out 😄

[manic torrent]

I have fat hamhock hands

[unreal thorn]

That's what staples are for

[sterile haven]

damn cause i just learned on my own way

[polar steeple]

I was curious what my WPM would be and it's 54

[sterile haven]

so i kinda shift my hands around and only really use my middle fingers to type

[graceful burrow]

good for swatting aussie spiders ye

[hollow zealot]

I just use the homerow way but only left shift

[sterile haven]

i just never learned homerow and i dont think i need to honestly

[unreal thorn]

Who actually uses right shift

[manic torrent]

?

[unreal thorn]

the key

[hollow zealot]

People that don't want bad arthritis

[manic torrent]

yes, ?. The key 😛

[unreal thorn]

am I supposed to explain my question?

[sterile haven]

i just got used to using left shift from games honestly

[unreal thorn]

I don't think I've ever intentionally pressed right shift

[fallen flame]

I use it when im typing while I eat food and use only one hand

[stoic beacon]

I just tried typing again, and I exclusively use right shift I think

[manic torrent]

If you use left shift for {}:"<>? then you are insane

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I can't get my brain to use left shift

[hollow zealot]

Does anyone swipe type on mobile?

[polar steeple]

I don't consciously think about how I'm typing

[stoic beacon]

For any letter

[unreal thorn]

I use left shift for everything

[finite cloud]

yes but it sucks

[unreal thorn]

Guess I'm insane

[hollow zealot]

I've been using it this whole time

[polar steeple]

Like I could use left shift, I could use right, I'm not really sure

[sterile haven]

sane people do not swipe on mobile

[manic torrent]

correct

[unreal thorn]

I also use my pinky to press enter

[fallen flame]

When using two hand i usually use left shift all the time id have to get used to right shift

[stoic beacon]

I swipe type because my thumbs are a little big for tap typing

[polar steeple]

Swipe just feels weird for words that have the same letter repeated

[manic torrent]

that's correct though

[unreal thorn]

Oh, good

[neon mesa]

most cursed one yet

[stoic beacon]

Huh...I wonder why I never use left shift, that's super weird

[unreal thorn]

I wouldn't want to be incorrect

[unreal thorn]

because you're

[sterile haven]

i actually dont know if i use my pinky to press enter

[polar steeple]

Look at all those PCIE lanes tho

[sterile haven]

turns out not, i use my ring finger sometimes

[hollow zealot]

Probably the same reason you don't use both thumbs on the space bar

[stoic beacon]

I don't consciously think about how I'm typing

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I just didn't realize I didn't hit it for anything

[polar steeple]

This mf

[stoic beacon]

I figured maybe I alternated depending on which hand was typing the capital letter, but not even for that

[hollow zealot]

What thumb do you use for space?

[stoic beacon]

Right thumb

It's easier to use my left thumb for space though than it is for me to use left shift...don't have to think about it as intensely

[hollow zealot]

Are you left or right mouse

[stoic beacon]

Right

[hollow zealot]

Odd

[manic torrent]

Should I get a 502x plus, or a hyte y60

[stoic beacon]

I guess my left hand just chills out over there not doing much work

[polar steeple]

Do you type with one hand on the keyboard and one hand on the mouse or something?

[manic torrent]

one hand on my .....

[polar steeple]

Well I wasn't gonna go there

[stoic beacon]

Are you trying to decide between a mouse and a case?

[polar steeple]

The Hyte y60 does look pretty cool though

[manic torrent]

yep

[unreal thorn]

My typing speed is in tech chat

[hollow zealot]

No, I just have more left hand dominance on the keyboard

[graceful burrow]

monkeytype is fun
even if there's not a way to measure your average typing speed, just your max

[unreal thorn]

It's harder to type when I'm typing what someone else told me to type

[stoic beacon]

I'd say go for the mouse, but that's mostly because ever since I bought a fractal torrent, it's hard to recommend anything else

[stoic beacon]

Take lots of tests then

[manic torrent]

I currently have an O11 dynamic

[stoic beacon]

Monkeytype or gtfo, honestly

[polar steeple]

The fractal torrent is a great case so there's 1 thing we actually agree on

[red spindle]

I do sometimes

[unreal thorn]

ok I'll redo it

[hollow zealot]

I have a cooler master h500
Help me

[stoic beacon]

Nevermind, turns out the fractal torrent sucks

[red spindle]

🥹

😂

[unreal thorn]

Ok I did monkey type

[stoic beacon]

Nice, 100 WPM isn't bad

[full fossil]

lol?

[dreamy rose]

you say humans are monkeys. i say they are 2000 years of constant evolution to create hairless fucking coconuts

[full fossil]

coconuts fuck?

[manic torrent]

I mean, no. Humans are apes. but hey.

also 2000 years? I think you have your orders of magnitude all wrong

[polar steeple]

Literally couldn't come up with a more childish response if I was paid to write it. Smh

[stoic beacon]

wooooosh

[manic torrent]

The torrent doesn't meet my aesthetic requirements - it's a good case, but I am watercooling for maximum a e s t h e t i c

[stoic beacon]

Ah, then that case you posted would look pretty cool

[dreamy rose]

https://youtu.be/SSxN1fohgps

[manic torrent]

it would... but the O11 already looks pretty cool, and it's a lot of work

[polar steeple]

Ligma

[manic torrent]

ok that's a very very very very niche reference

[full fossil]

that blows

[dreamy rose]

yes

[gray hawk]

LOL AGP8x

LOL DISCORD CHANNEL UPDATE LAG

[manic torrent]

.... thanks guy

[full fossil]

ok

[graceful burrow]

ok

[gray hawk]

I thought I was replying to the weird AI graphics card thing up above

[full fossil]

you were

[gray hawk]

then as soon as I posted, DIscord filled in the last however many minutes of chat

[full fossil]

faslse

[manic torrent]

Yeah discord scrolling is weird

[vapid smelt]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tesla-1tb-ssd-storage-games-sentry-mode just saw this in another discord

[graceful burrow]

did they really advertise it as vibration resistant

[vapid smelt]

Yup

[graceful burrow]

[gray hawk]

Devils advocate, it could have a high compliance socket to avoid it being knocked loose during travel or something.

BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT IT

[graceful burrow]

most ssd's are held in by screws

[gray hawk]

Most SSDs arent installed in your fucking car. Think about how low the IQ of the average Tesla owner is

[graceful burrow]

cute enclosure mind if i open it

and see what literal consumer ssd you're using

[gray hawk]

$5 says its a WD Blue tier SATA SSD

[vapid smelt]

It's sad for $350 you only get a sata ssd

[polar steeple]

I don't understand what would be stored on the SSD that you would need in the car

[gray hawk]

they add steam to certain tesla cars

[polar steeple]

Lolwut

[gray hawk]

apparently some Teslas literally run AMD Ryzens

[polar steeple]

I had no idea

[gray hawk]

so they ported Proton to the cars

Right. The Tesla Deck when

[vapid smelt]

Games and dash cam footage (they come with a thumb drive stock apparently for that)

[polar steeple]

Oh yeah they have a ton of cameras on them and shit

[vapid smelt]

From the Article they have 16gb of ram

[polar steeple]

I feel like there's a EULA for that SSD and it includes Elon sleeping in your bed

[molten drift]

Im so crushed finding a blu-ray of the doom star requium in my region is like neigh impossible

And just seasons 1-4 of metaloclypse are like 110$

[gray hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-torrenting-torrents-linux-isos-movie-downloads-gif-16017699

[graceful burrow]

epic embed fail

[hollow zealot]

I can't wait for an episode of undercover boss with Linus in the lab

[gray hawk]

LOL How tf would that even work

[hollow zealot]

No clue lol

[vapid smelt]

He would need plastic surgery and a height surgery

[manic torrent]

elon banned the account tracking his plane.... after specifically saying he wouldn't because freeze peach

[graceful burrow]

wow
elon not keeping his word?
who could have seen this coming!

[polar steeple]

Metalocalypse goes hard

[vapid smelt]

Then mindless Elon fans saying that elonjet was black mailing him and shit

[manic torrent]

he is a cartoon villian. He's rich enough to be batman, but decided to be the joker

[gray hawk]

The common man wont be saved by a hero from the top. Wish people would stop trying to form parasocial relationships with the elites. They are all scumbag that sooner or later society is going to have to strip of their wealth and status in order to redistrobute it fairly

No such thing as an ethical rich person

[vapid smelt]

Elon:I will give you 5k to delete the account
ElonJet: make it 50k and it's a deal
Then he gets ghosted

[gray hawk]

The 50k and a tesla thing sounds like a joke lol

[graceful burrow]

Mark Cuban is the closest i can think

[manic torrent]

thing is, it's not possible.

[gray hawk]

Regardless you cannot commit wrong against a oliogarch. Its morally impossible. Any action against them is automatically justified by the level of evil they inflict on the world.

[rustic crown]

the elon jet bot uses public faa information

[vapid smelt]

The owner is a 19 year old college student he negotiated 50k and saying he could possibly buy a Tesla with it after paying off college debt

[graceful burrow]

homie opened a pharmaceutical company specifically to sell prescription stuff for way less

[manic torrent]

I know right.

[rustic crown]

literally anyone can request the data

I did and got it

His jets name is falcon landing

[vapid smelt]

And some math to determine the destination of the flight

[rustic crown]

flight route is published

[manic torrent]

Thing is, there's a difference between being able to get it if you know how, and having it easily accessible and coming up on your twitter feed.

[rustic crown]

Required by the faa

[vapid smelt]

https://www.protocol.com/elon-musk-flight-tracker

[manic torrent]

know your worth, king 😄

[gray hawk]

Besides what does Elon ACTUALLY think is going to happen to him? Is he afraid somebody is going to fire a SAM at his plane? (Im sure he has somebody whos job it is to make sure he doesn't fly over places that might happen) or is he afraid hes going to get murdered by somebody? (Again, I guarantee he has multiple someones whos entire job is ensuring his safety)

[rustic crown]

The faa has a public api for getting data

[manic torrent]

I am well aware, I'm just pointing out that it being available is not the same thing as it being curated

[rustic crown]

You literally can have your smart alarm clock read it

[manic torrent]

dude. I know.

[vapid smelt]

If Elon was really scared for his safety he would've bought the account for 50k months ago

[manic torrent]

When I hear a helo around here I check to see what it is and where they are going.

[rustic crown]

Elon is trying to kill twitter so he can write if off

He said something he didn't want to

[vapid smelt]

Elon could just buy decoy jets too

[rustic crown]

He has

All the tail ids are known tho

[manic torrent]

haha, trying to ascribe motives to elon at this point is pointless. He's just reacting. He has no idea what he's doing.

[dreamy rose]

5k to delete a twitter account wouldn't tempt me either tbh. i'd want at least 10K. not because i'd value twitter. becase i'd want to get some more moolah

[arctic depot]

Dude it's elon 50k and a car is a low ball offer

I'd milk that shit

[rustic crown]

What would stop me from just opening the faa site and seeing his published flight plans and tweeting them

[manic torrent]

nothing 🙂

but you would have to get followers etc etc.

[rustic crown]

not hard saying the bots now dead

I could mix in other aviation posts

[manic torrent]

if it's so trivial, do it.

[rustic crown]

Would mean id need to make a twitter

[manic torrent]

I could do a billion things. Nothing you could do matters particularly, only things you DID do.

[gray hawk]

Elon only bought Twitter because it seemed like he might actually face consequences for manipulating its stock price otherwise

and nothing scare as oliogarch more than consequences

[graceful burrow]

elon bought twitter because he would have gotten fined if he didnt

[gray hawk]

The rich literally have a mental disorder from being so divorced from normalcy

[rustic crown]

The fine was like 250m

Vs 40b

[graceful burrow]

4b

iirc
could be wrong

[gray hawk]

No, he comitted enough SEC violations he might actually have went to jail for a minute

[rustic crown]

It was a lot less

[gray hawk]

this was like the 3rd or 4th time he did that shit

[graceful burrow]

i dont keep up on rich people or twitter
let alone rich people and twitter

who care lets be honest

[rustic crown]

I will let elon fly to mars

And he can be mar's issue

[manic torrent]

This is not entirely correct, but they also don't get help when they have a breakdown, because their life doesn't fall apart until it's too late.

[rustic crown]

he's said he wants to die on mars and he's rich enough to do it

[manic torrent]

This has happened numerous times in recent history - mcaffee, Ian Murdock, kanye, etc.

particularly in middle age. It seems to be a trend. I haven't looked in a little while, but I'd like to see some research on it.

[vapid smelt]

He's taking too long

[manic torrent]

yeah he can die on mars right now.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gorongosa-national-park-restoration-60-minutes-2022-12-04/ or Elon could spend his billions on saving our planet like Greg Carr

[dreamy rose]

thats why 10k would be my minimum

hard floor

[arctic depot]

I don't even think 250 mil is the floor here, that level of wealth is just cartoon lunacy

Someday we'll be startrekking it and none of the small pieces of green paper will matter

I'm one of the people who thinks leaving the trees had been a big mistake

If I could swim I'd probably prefer returning to the ocean, but alas I cannot.

[manic torrent]

one day many years ago, a fish climbed out of the ocean, and now I have to pay rent. THANKS OJAMA

[dreamy rose]

on the other hand. a fish climbed out the ocean and now Virtua Racing turned 30 this year

[vapid smelt]

If the current fish climbed out of the ocean we wouldn't need to worry about polluting it

[dreamy rose]

if the fish climbed out of the ocean it would send America into a Frenzy. either Christians would be screaming because Evolution is real or they would be prasing god for giving another species a way to walk.

[graceful burrow]

north or south america

[dreamy rose]

north

[vapid smelt]

Or mid America

[graceful burrow]

true

big true
middle america kinda lit

[dreamy rose]

canadians are american too you know

[vapid smelt]

Nahhhh

Canadians are fake

[supple topaz]

I’m in Canada, I hate it here

[vapid smelt]

Every video you see of Canada is made in a studio like the moon landing

[dreamy rose]

lies

unless you hate bagged milk

[vapid smelt]

Name every moose if you're really Canadian

[manic torrent]

same for australia

[manic torrent]

how fucking awesome is bagged milk

[supple topaz]

Isn’t there only one moose?

[manic torrent]

and they use it for the moose test

[dreamy rose]

canadias mooseses gooseses

[supple topaz]

Is Canada actually the Truman show?

Except worse because nothing good happens

[dreamy rose]

no its as they say it is in south park

[rustic crown]

we get both bottled and bag here

[manic torrent]

oh look, it's celine dion!

[supple topaz]

We have lots of bagged milk but no children’s medicine because priorities

[manic torrent]

global shortage.

[dreamy rose]

demoman has crates of scrumpy, but never eaten food. hes got priorities

[manic torrent]

literally, global shortage of antibiotics, and many other medical basics.

[dreamy rose]

too bad. there's a virus going around that turns you into imposter. the antidotes are Antibiotics and many other medical basics. good luck

[vapid smelt]

What type of milk?

[supple topaz]

Well there is a global shortage, but it makes it harder when you don’t manufacture things and your whole economy relies on importing. We saw that quite a lot during the pandemic, big pushes for Canada to manufacture more goods.

[supple topaz]

Moo

[vapid smelt]

Oil,maple and...

Maple wood

Can't think of any other Canadian goods

[supple topaz]

We manufacture a lot of bad drivers here, but I’m sure that’s everywhere 😂

[vapid smelt]

So does Intel

[supple topaz]

Loooooool

I would have said amd but I don’t want to squabble here

[ocean pawn]

[supple topaz]

Not to change the topic (as I change the topic), but how do people like floatplane?

I’d love to support uncle luke but YouTube premium is so expensive I haven’t pulled the trigger on FP

[jaunty compass]

let me introduce you to revanced tbh

💀

[ocean pawn]

Why do you even use YouTube premium

[supple topaz]

Background playback and no ads

[ocean pawn]

On mobile ?

Are you using android?

[supple topaz]

Yeah on mobile. iOS

[ocean pawn]

Ah. Pretty sure there are unethical ways to get YouTube premium for free

[jaunty compass]

ios is 💀

[ocean pawn]

That way you can give money to LMG instead of YouTube

[jaunty compass]

as an android user, I just use REvanced

[ocean pawn]

Just download a apk of YouTube premium

[supple topaz]

I’m sure there is

[manic torrent]

if it's only shafting google it's not unethical

[ocean pawn]

For education purposes only

[ocean pawn]

Dang Google has the monopole on a shit ton of things

[jaunty compass]

gonna be honest, I don't even use sponsorblock

it kept skipping actual content in videos so i just turned it off

[ocean pawn]

I mean when I hear Linus say "sponsored" I skip 15 secondes ahead

It gets me right in the video

[jaunty compass]

most of the time I sit through the sponsors

[ocean pawn]

Really? Why

[jaunty compass]

i usually listen to ltt videos in the car

or it's not that big of a deal and i just sit through them

[arctic depot]

The sponsor segments aren't even bad

[ocean pawn]

Just the audio?

[jaunty compass]

in the car yeah
but even on desktop i just watch the videos

and don't skip it

[arctic depot]

The segue to a sponsor is the best part of the vid

[ocean pawn]

I mean they implement them nicely I just don't really care for any sponsored content

[manic torrent]

I generally watch them, sometimes I skip them, particularly if it's for a VPN

[arctic depot]

VPN sponsors are the ones I dislike the most

[ocean pawn]

Like I understand they have to pay bills

[manic torrent]

VPNs are inherenly dishonest in their advertising, so it's problematic

[jaunty compass]

linus has to afford his in floor heating 💀

[ocean pawn]

Would using a proxy or socks5 be better than using a VPN?

[manic torrent]

it would be the same. more or less.

[ocean pawn]

So then what the fuck can I do?

[manic torrent]

but the reality is that normies suck at opsec so bad it doesn't matter.

I mean, even people who need opsec suck at opsec, so what hope does anyone have

[manic torrent]

don't do stupid shit.

[ocean pawn]

That's not very useful

[manic torrent]

99% of the comms you're doing in 2022 are already encrypted

[arctic depot]

That's pretty much the only requirement for modern security

[ocean pawn]

Hmmm

[manic torrent]

I've literally worked in national cyber security

[ocean pawn]

So how the hell do VPN companies make money

[arctic depot]

Nobody really just gets hacked or breaches data without someone being a dumb ass

[ocean pawn]

For people that don't know better.

[arctic depot]

Because the people buying into it are clueless

[ocean pawn]

[manic torrent]

incorrect

breaches generally don't require someone to be stupid

[ocean pawn]

Interesting

[manic torrent]

but as a user, there's SFA you can do

other than use multiple emails, multiple credit cards, and seperate passwords.

emails/credit cards is harder and optional, seperate passwords are essential

[arctic depot]

I was generalising but recent ones I've read about involve people giving out their 2FA because IT messaged them on WhatsApp 😂

Hello it is me, systems administrator please be giving me the two factor authentication code you are receiving

[manic torrent]

oh yeah, that's users, what I mean is a breach on the other end.

[ocean pawn]

The biggest national security breaches were made by interns?

Or what's the biggest reason for breaches

[arctic depot]

Usually a lack of training and/or common sense for my opinion

On a user end anyway

[ocean pawn]

I like using Snowden example

[manic torrent]

bad management

[ocean pawn]

Because it was such a public stunt

[manic torrent]

almost all breaches are due to a fundamental failure to focus on security and develop and use best practise

[arctic depot]

Oh true, you really don't care about bosses that are assholes or a work that doesn't look after you

[manic torrent]

that isn't an IT breach though.

[arctic depot]

Insider threats OP

[manic torrent]

You also have to trust your people, and as Pear said, if you treat your employees like shit, they won't care.

[ocean pawn]

That's true

So what exactly did he leak?

I briefly saw the movie

[manic torrent]

The thing is - the TECHNICAL reason for the breach will be super detailed, but the reality is that in almost every case, it was fundamental bad practise across the org.

Breaches are basically luck

[arctic depot]

He leaked classified documents iirc

[ocean pawn]

Hmm NSA...

[arctic depot]

NSA national surveillance stuff

[manic torrent]

The more up to date your infrastructure, the better your security posture and processes, the better you fare, but you can always be unlucky

[ocean pawn]

How come we don't hear about the CIA and more close organizations like them

[manic torrent]

The key is reducing attack surface, increasing depth of defense, and being able to detect attacks as they happen

[manic torrent]

.... because their entire business is to be secret.

[ocean pawn]

Yeah lmao

You make it sound so elementary

[manic torrent]

also if you talk about it you go to jail.

[arctic depot]

But yeah the big exposè for the public was the illegal NSA surveillance

[ocean pawn]

Ah I see

[manic torrent]

I mean, it is elementary (if you know what you're doing). It's just that it costs a lot of money and it's hard work.

[ocean pawn]

I mean for all I know when I take a shit in my toilet and bring my phone, who says that the NSA isn't spying me?

[manic torrent]

... plus I've been doing it for 20 years, so I better know what I'm talkjing about

[manic torrent]

Nobody. Best to assume they are.

[ocean pawn]

[arctic depot]

I imagine what happens when you cross the secret services are those stories where the guy kills himself by drowning inside a suitcase in the bathtub with gunshot wounds

[manic torrent]

Not you PERSONALLY, but likely in agregate.

[manic torrent]

nope, you just go to jail. it's super boring

[ocean pawn]

Hmmm

[arctic depot]

[manic torrent]

secret squrriel stuff is basically ... the same shit as everywhere else, but secret.

so you just have a layer of opsec and bullshit over everything

[arctic depot]

I live down the road from our secret squirrel nest in the UK

[ocean pawn]

Interesting conversation

Thanks for the inputs

[manic torrent]

I did not enjoy doing secret stuff

[arctic depot]

Might end up working there, I'd prefer to go private sector though where the money is

[manic torrent]

I want to talk about stuff constantly

[arctic depot]

I just want to know stuff constantly, my fomo gets set off

[manic torrent]

once you get older you can teach yourself not to give a fuck 🙂

[arctic depot]

I had a family member on the ex wife's side that operated within GCHQ

Most boring fella ever wouldn't spill any beans

[ocean pawn]

I name my wifi FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN

[arctic depot]

That's boring 😴

[manic torrent]

yeah he probably doesn't want to go to jail

or be debreifed for like a fuckin week

nothx

99% of secret stuff is boring as shit.

[arctic depot]

I get that but still

[manic torrent]

the conspiracies you want are right in front of you

[arctic depot]

Only thing I'd be interested in is seeing how deep their vetting processes go

[manic torrent]

that is relatively public.

[dense coral]

Quite an original move...

[arctic depot]

Can't say I've ever just like googled it tbh

[manic torrent]

It's about working out how deep your ties are to the community, and if you have any secrets that can be used against you, etc etc

again - it's actually pretty boring most of the time 🙂

[ocean pawn]

Yall think some of the leaked documents on the deepweb are valid?

[arctic depot]

Ah right so the bits I knew, I was under the impression there was a vetting of other history too

Online activity w/e

[manic torrent]

yeah that too.

[arctic depot]

Like I know they probably have absolutely massive lakes of metadata on my day to day

But how far back would be realistically possible for them 🤔

[full fossil]

how many braincells do you own?

[arctic depot]

Who knows?

The best way to make people not believe its real is just to let it be there

[full fossil]

... what

what is this garbage conversation

[arctic depot]

Nobody would leave top secret documents out and about

[manic torrent]

hahahahahhaha

[arctic depot]

There are other channels Funk

Nobody asked you to join in

[full fossil]

ok 👋🏾

i can take care of seeing that real easy

[ocean pawn]

1 and a half

[full fossil]

more than a lot of discord

[arctic depot]

To be quite honest 90% of the discord share 20% of the braincells

[full fossil]

ur like the 1% of braincell owners on discord

[ocean pawn]

Sensational

[full fossil]

im going to go look at ai generated lewds

[arctic depot]

God you're boring

Coming up on 3AM, gotta be up for 0745 and I'm not sure I'm gonna get to sleep any time soon

Do I just make a fat pot of coffee, find the cookies and write off the sleep?

[ocean pawn]

Dang I'm taking a walk

[arctic depot]

Walking good but it's almost -10 outside I think

[ocean pawn]

It's like 1 c

Not cold enough to make my hands cold but a nice weather

[arctic depot]

-7 here, now that I checked

[ocean pawn]

Well take it easy Pear

[arctic depot]

You too! Have a nice walk

[ocean pawn]

🤠

[arctic depot]

I'm gonna try for the sub5hr sleep, if I'm still awake at 4am I shower make coffee and just wait for death

[manic torrent]

4 hours of sleep is still a full cycle. Not ideal, but 100% worth it

[tardy remnant]

Hello :]

[marble egret]

Howdy 👋

[inner lichen]

Hello 👋

970 EvoPlus nvme m.2 500 gb(used)
For $25
Worth it?

[whole lake]

I can't afford a LTT scewdriver

:dies:

I also cannot aford discord nitro

[median temple]

Hi

[past egret]

sounds like a skill issue

[hollow zealot]

I've had my pc for a long while
And today is the first day I've touched the gpu while it is under load

[past egret]

toasty

[hollow zealot]

62 C is a lot hotter than I thought

I don't know why this is so crazy to me

[graceful burrow]

62 is good for pc

[finite cloud]

Its much warmer in Celsius

[full fossil]

Bought new earphones
Haven’t had an upgrade in ~4 years

[hollow zealot]

My cpu sits at 56, is that good for 12700k?

[full fossil]

Forced to bc my device has no headphone Jack and I don’t wanna buy replacement parts for blue tooth ear peices

[manic torrent]

FORCED! OH NO

[manic torrent]

I literally bought one of those at a petrol station after I picked up my new phone.

[vapid smelt]

and you can tape, heat shrink, or glue the adapter directly to the male 3.5mm so you never lose it

[full fossil]

Those cost a fortune here

[vapid smelt]

the $5 adapter thats sold in bulk on aliexpress for less than $1?

[full fossil]

I hate explaining this bc it takes forever and people don’t believe you
In New Zealand tech is either a really cheap item or really expensive
Nothing ships anywhere near me so you have to buy it locally

The gas station has one of those adapters but it cost as much as this set of earphones so I bought these instead

[finite cloud]

Can also get one of these Bluetooth headphone adapters

[full fossil]

I checked the kinda dollar store, the gas station, and the market, cheapest adapter for sale was 20 bucks - Dont ask why, it’s fkn stupid idk

[past egret]

couldve got on the interwebz

[woeful minnow]

jbhifi had a nice braided one for $14.95 aud

[full fossil]

I can buy a modern server for 600 dollars in perfect condition, with really good specs, but not audio devices

[full fossil]

Aus expensive too?

[woeful minnow]

yes

[full fossil]

Like I said in my big long message, nothing ships to my location

[indigo plume]

might have to downgrade from 1440p when my gpu starts performing worse

[woeful minnow]

for these kinds of items

[indigo plume]

to 1080p

[full fossil]

Exactly

[indigo plume]

cuz building pc is too expensive these days

[full fossil]

Pb tech is the cheapest for pc parts anywhere near me, and a gigabyte 3090 was going for 3 grand

I coulda got it trade price but even then just no

[jaunty compass]

I need to actually finish the original deus ex

[manic torrent]

yeah I paid $15 at the servo. I paid it and moved on with my life

[full fossil]

I didn’t wanna explain

But people ask

[indigo plume]

i miss when building pc was affordable

[full fossil]

I started to make it faster

[manic torrent]

... it is

[indigo plume]

no its not

[manic torrent]

... it is just as affordable as it has ever been.

[full fossil]

Same
I miss when prebuilt pc’s were good quality without costing a fortune…

[indigo plume]

atleast at 1440p

[manic torrent]

oh so now you're getting picky about specific performance?

[vapid smelt]

tf

[woeful minnow]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004657234057.html

[indigo plume]

I dont recall gpus costing 1k+ before

[manic torrent]

LTT did an actual video on this not long ago, building for various price points

..... you don't need a 1k GPU

and CERTIANLY not for 1440p.

[full fossil]

Oh my goodness the earpeices are goin down to 10hz with audible volume, as in like beats at that freq are audible

Ive got songs I cant listen to now, bc the headphones are actually playing the lows

[indigo plume]

and nothing sells for msrp anymore

[manic torrent]

dude are you living 6-12 months ago?

[hollow pulsar]

Nice!

[indigo plume]

like was on looking at 3080s they going for 2000 cad

or even 3070 is overpriced

[manic torrent]

... I bought a 3080 ti for $700 AUD. Admittedly that's a huge bargain, but you are being ridiculous

[full fossil]

I play minecraft java 1.19 on a 1440p 177hz monitor at 120fps max quality on a 1030 gt kek

[indigo plume]

mate I legit looked yesterday

[manic torrent]

exactly. and a 1030 is worthless garbage

[indigo plume]

3080s all atleast 2000

[full fossil]

Expensive worthless garbage *

[indigo plume]

cad

[full fossil]

I got a 1030gt when I didn’t know what the fk a gpu was XD

[jaunty compass]

used hardware exists, that's why it's affordable

[manic torrent]

... WTF are you in like nunavut or something

[cerulean canopy]

thats why you have to use 3 of them in sli so you get 3090

[indigo plume]

no

i went on pc part picker and all the listings wer 2000

I live in ontario

[manic torrent]

the problem there is you are specifically limiting your search to a single part.

it is highly likely that you can get something a bit lower or similar for far far less

[jaunty compass]

i see some 3080s on canadian ebay for around 800 cad

which isn't amazing but that's like
less than 600 usd

[indigo plume]

3070 is still like 1200

[manic torrent]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=196742 is it?

[indigo plume]

from what i see on pc part picker

[jaunty compass]

i see some 3070s for around 500 cad on canadian ebay\

[indigo plume]

thats prob used

[jaunty compass]

...obviously

[indigo plume]

I dont buy used

used is too sus

[jaunty compass]

if you have something against used hardware, don't complain about prices being bad

[full fossil]

Guess who’s back… back again…

[jaunty compass]

and not being able to find anything reasonable

[manic torrent]

My link is a 3070 for 769 brand new

[indigo plume]

could buy a card that barely works

[cerulean canopy]

i buy almost exlusivly used

[jaunty compass]

at least for ampere 💀

[manic torrent]

and I assume "canada computers" is in canada

[west sentinel]

lololol

[manic torrent]

so "building a computer isn't affordable" means "This specfic video card I want and am too lazy to search for is too expensive where it is currently available"

[jaunty compass]

apparently

[indigo plume]

thats still more money than ive ever spend on gpu

[full fossil]

#off-topic message these look so uncomfortable XD

Literally got speaker mess on it

[manic torrent]

ok great, cry me a river, but it's also faster than any GPU you've ever had

[jaunty compass]

listen, I understand that you don't want to spend a ton on a gpu, but when you won't even consider used hardware there's not really anything anyone can do to help other than laugh at you

[west sentinel]

just get a fucking RTX 3060Ti

[jaunty compass]

if you want something good and cheap, a used 6600 xt would probably be your best bet

[full fossil]

Here I can spend months searching (I can search don’t say I cant) and wont find a good deal on anything, but yeah pretty much on this scenario

[west sentinel]

how much money does this user have

[full fossil]

Perfect mining card :D

[indigo plume]

im just saying market was way more consumer friendly like 10 years ago when i first got into pc building

[full fossil]

no one say 3080

[west sentinel]

how much money does this user have

[west sentinel]

he doesn't deserve 3080

[jaunty compass]

the prices are worse for the 3060 ti in canada

like 500 usd over there for them iirc

[indigo plume]

building a highish end pc was never as hard as it is now

[jaunty compass]

it's weird

[west sentinel]

now I can afford that shit

[full fossil]

Bets price I’ve ever seen for a 60 ti

[jaunty compass]

the cheapest one i see on canada computers is a 600 cad 3060 ti

[cerulean canopy]

lmfao they are under 400$ here (used)

for 3070

[indigo plume]

before u could get most cards at a great price

[jaunty compass]

they are allergic to used hardware lol

[full fossil]

Oh nvm it’s actually cheaper here

[indigo plume]

Im not buying something that is used

[full fossil]

Noice

[full fossil]

Here is why you are poor

[west sentinel]

then stop asking so desperately for cheaper high end GPU

[indigo plume]

so ur saying have gpus inflated as they are is acceptable

[full fossil]

Want smthng expensive new but cant afford it
Get used
Don’t want used?
Get money
Don’t wanna get money?
That’s a you problem

[west sentinel]

"ohhh I can't buy high end GPU that I can afford rn because I wanted to save money and continue my horrible life"

[manic torrent]

how much was your video card 10 years ago and what was it. we can do a direct comparison

[cerulean canopy]

dont have money?
lower your standards and take what you can get

[full fossil]

We’re saying that doesn’t change

[indigo plume]

i never said it would change

[jaunty compass]

the inflated gpu prices aren't okay, but that's not relevant to the discussion

[west sentinel]

saving money is awful for anyone who thinks money can't buy happiness

[jaunty compass]

i can get a used rtx 3090 for 750 on ebay, or a rx 6900 xt for 700 on ebay

[full fossil]

Obv you want it to, as you are complaining it’s expensive
Complaining doesn’t get anyone anywhere

[jaunty compass]

realistically I should just wait for more amd next gen cards

because those look like they're going to be reasonably priced

[indigo plume]

doubt ful

[full fossil]

3090 = $3k here XD

[indigo plume]

they gunna keep increasing prices

[full fossil]

Very funny

[indigo plume]

cuz ppl keep buying them

[manic torrent]

dude that's literally how markets work

[full fossil]

And say not to buy the second hand miners cards so the inflation continues! :D

[jaunty compass]

a rx 6700 xt is $330 on ebay

[indigo plume]

im aware

[jaunty compass]

gonna be real with you

if you're building a pc on a budget and you aren't buying a used gpu, you're kinda a goofball

[manic torrent]

and is great for 1440p

[full fossil]

^^^^^

[indigo plume]

not buying a used card that could just have issues

[jaunty compass]

i have a 6600 xt and it's way better for 1440p than you'd think

[indigo plume]

then end up wasting money

[jaunty compass]

which is pretty pog

[full fossil]

Then buy a new one
Cant get a new one?
Deal with it then

[manic torrent]

I use one for 4k

.... with FSR on performance 😄

[jaunty compass]

the performance of the 6600 xt has only gotten better over time

[west sentinel]

and if you can't save money and asking for cheaper GPU, just get a job

[jaunty compass]

In opengl the performance literally doubled because of a driver rewrite

[full fossil]

Ima go back to playing games at 30 fps 720p XD

[indigo plume]

yes cuz buying a new one after the used one performs poorly is really saving money

[west sentinel]

just get a job

[indigo plume]

I have a job

[jaunty compass]

I think you need to touch grass or somethin

[indigo plume]

I work 60 hrs a week

[manic torrent]

I don't understand how you think the used one is going to somehow lose performance

[jaunty compass]

ebay has pretty good buyer protection, dude

[full fossil]

Then go do that
Don’t continue to complain to us about the price, we get it now, it’s expensive

[jaunty compass]

he probably saw the propaganda from zotac

[full fossil]

XD

[west sentinel]

you have enough money to buy a better NEW GPU

[indigo plume]

that was sarcasm

[jaunty compass]

was it zotac that said mining cards lose 10% performance a year or something

[indigo plume]

no I dont

[jaunty compass]

i know one company said that and got clowned on

[full fossil]

It may have been overclocked and burned out ohhhh noooooo

🤦‍♀️

[manic torrent]

as a rule, it either works, or it doesn't.

[golden talon]

not buying used GPUs doesnt make sense

its great for you and its good for the environment

its also good for whoever is selling that gpu

its a win for everyone

[jaunty compass]

it's basically this

[full fossil]

Mainly, run a stress test, check the memory, if the mem is even slightly declined there will be immediately noticeable issues in a stress test too

[jaunty compass]

it either works or it very doesn't work

[indigo plume]

im not buying something that isnt guaranteed to work

[manic torrent]

I bought a brand new 3070 EKWB in march 2021 for $1500. I sold it the other day for $500, and bought a 3080 ti for $700

[west sentinel]

then save money and buy the new one

[jaunty compass]

I bought this 6600 xt back in may open box on ebay for $325 (it was a good price back then)

[full fossil]

If the memory is in tact, it’s clean, and it’s performing within ~8% of the manufactures average benchmark stats
Good to go

[jaunty compass]

and it has had absolutely no issues even though I have it overclocked

[indigo plume]

Used is way too sus

[manic torrent]

again, what did you buy 10 years ago and for how much

[full fossil]

Spend lots on new and increase the inflation
K done
Moving on

[full fossil]

How heavily overvolted

[jaunty compass]

I actually didn't change the voltage at all, I just increased the power limit and clock/mem speed and it gained a good bit of performance

[indigo plume]

well my first pc had 1060 and yeah maybe not 10 years ago more like 6 years I thibnk

[jaunty compass]

bro

[full fossil]

Mainly if it’s cooled well and not too heavy on the voltage should be perfectly fine
If it gets too high it’ll be unstable anyways, you’d notice

[indigo plume]

I bought it for like 300

[jaunty compass]

💀

[indigo plume]

my pc alltogether was like 900

[jaunty compass]

I'm aware, It's not my first time overclocking lol

[full fossil]

Nice

[jaunty compass]

We don't need to talk about my first time overclocking hardware

[manic torrent]

The GeForce GTX 1060 Founders Edition board -- designed and built by NVIDIA -- will be available starting July 19 for $299 at www.nvidia.com ...

[jaunty compass]

I broke a world record on a super obscure piece of hardware and everyone was wondering how I even got it running to play games on

[indigo plume]

inflastion is gunna increase regarless of what I do

[jaunty compass]

and possibly had hearing damage done because i cooled it with a 12k rpm fan

[manic torrent]

$1 in 2016 is worth $1.24 today

[jaunty compass]

and then put an AIO on to spare my ears

[manic torrent]

so $372

[full fossil]

More an example of how if done correctly it’s safe, to someone scared of buying second hand
The main fears are it was unclean and damaged, or overheated, which is actually quite difficult to do

[full fossil]

Nooooo

[manic torrent]

Its price at launch was 379 US Dollars.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Specs - GPU Database

[full fossil]

Ouch

[indigo plume]

thats amd

[jaunty compass]

inb4 amd hate train

[manic torrent]

oh noooooooo

[jaunty compass]

[full fossil]

Same

[indigo plume]

we were talking about nvida cards no amd

[full fossil]

My friends are saving up for Intel arc
Go

[manic torrent]

3060 MSRP: $329

which is ... the same as the 1060

[jaunty compass]

I found it

A tesla m40 12 gig

[manic torrent]

3060 is about 80% faster.

[indigo plume]

3060 sis 300 msp in usa

[manic torrent]

So basically: you are completely wrong.

[jaunty compass]

i ordered it September 15 of 2021 and overclocked the hell out of it

[manic torrent]

all these prices are US, because it's all relative.

[indigo plume]

not in canada

[jaunty compass]

and everyone was confused how i was gaming on it

[manic torrent]

based on MSRP in USD at release.

[indigo plume]

I bought 1060 300 cad

[vapid smelt]

gtx 960 msrp was $199 😢

[jaunty compass]

we are going to send you to nunavut

[manic torrent]

.. on clearance? because that's not MSRP 😛 - also you're talking about an 80 series card vs a 60 series.

You're wanting caviar on a fish egg budget

[indigo plume]

?

im not asking for much just for 3080 to be under 1500 dollars

[manic torrent]

they absolutely are

[jaunty compass]

they are though

[indigo plume]

not from what ive seen

they all 1800+

I looked on part picker past few days

[full fossil]

ur looking in either dumb places or you live in some weird country

[indigo plume]

and they all expensive af

[manic torrent]

I literally googled 'buy 3080 canada'

[jaunty compass]

on canadian pc part picker i see a pny 3080 for 1100 cad

[full fossil]

amd doesnt give incentive to maple syrup people? kek

[indigo plume]

im on part picker

[jaunty compass]

which is about 800 usd

[indigo plume]

and its all expensive

[manic torrent]

is it possible that you have brain worms?

like, I'm literally looking at the first page on the first hit of google.

[indigo plume]

ight im just leave ur being toxic

[manic torrent]

... I'm being toxic by showing you that you can get what you want by basic googling?

[full fossil]

bob ur so toxic

like my brainworms

[manic torrent]

you keep saying "3080 is $1500+". I conclusively proved it isn't.

[full fossil]

I mean technically if you buy/visit from a Canadian ip, they might put the price up

[jaunty compass]

and i also pointed out there's 3080s for reasonable prices on pc part picker you're just blind 💀

[indigo plume]

not the 12 gb version

[manic torrent]

oh, possibly, but I saw it over several sites

[jaunty compass]

it is the 12 gig version...

[indigo plume]

only cheap ones i see are 10gb

[jaunty compass]

it's the
PNY XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB
12 gigs of vram

[full fossil]

vpns into canada
looks at pcpartpicker just to prove someone wrong

[manic torrent]

.... so now we're getting even more picky?

[full fossil]

lets go

[indigo plume]

why would I buy the worse version

[manic torrent]

because it's cheaper?

[jaunty compass]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dRhFf7/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-xlr8-gaming-revel-epic-x-rgb-video-card-vcg308012ltfxppb

[manic torrent]

like that's literally how things work

[half summit]

Linus is right

The s20 is terrible

[indigo plume]

no its not

I have it

its great

whats so wrong with it

[manic torrent]

oh no that's exactly what he wants for the price he said didn't exist, you're so toxic

[half summit]

Its not charging and I have done everything under the sun

[manic torrent]

maybe go inside?

[half summit]

Now it only supports the non versatile wireless charging

[jaunty compass]

i still use a pixel 3 lol

it still works so i haven't gotten a new phone

[manic torrent]

I still use a pixel 6

[indigo plume]

ive never had an issue with charging

ill just wait for prices to normalize

hopfully

or im just gunna be going to 1080p

[manic torrent]

prices have normalised.

you're just insane.

[indigo plume]

no they havent

like a month ago 3080 were like 1300 dollars

for even the higher end stuff

with a asus card

[manic torrent]

.... and it's $1100, as posted here.

[indigo plume]

that is from company ive never even heard of there prob reason its so cheap

[manic torrent]

... amazon?

[jaunty compass]

you've never heard of pny?

[full fossil]

i wont buy anything high priced off amazon

[indigo plume]

no

[full fossil]

pny is rather well known

[indigo plume]

never heard of the m

[jaunty compass]

they're the ones who make all of the nvidia quadro cards

[manic torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNY_Technologies this company?

[jaunty compass]

and they make some gaming cards too

[manic torrent]

I wont buy anything from anywhere.

[jaunty compass]

damocles rn

[indigo plume]

no I just want card from more well know brand like asus msi evga ect

[vapid smelt]

my first ever pny product was a flash drive that was doa

[full fossil]

99% of manufacturers wont honor a warranty from amazon is all

[jaunty compass]

have fun getting evga cards for a reasonable price

[indigo plume]

cuz i dont know how good the warranty and shit is

yes im aware evga isnt really a option anymore

[vapid smelt]

i had a 1060 6gb pny card it was pretty good sold it when i got the 5700xt

[golden talon]

you can get them at a reasonable price they havent appreciably gone up in price or anything

[full fossil]

That usb doh

[indigo plume]

like a few weeks ago the asus tuf was like 1200 dollars for 3080 now its 2200

[golden talon]

USD?

[manic torrent]

So your issue is now even more narrowed down, "this exact model of card I want by these specific list of manufacturers isn't available CURRENTLY for the price I want"

[jaunty compass]

cad

[indigo plume]

cad

[golden talon]

dont buy the asus tuf then

[manic torrent]

and your conclusion is "it's impossible to build a PC these days"

[vapid smelt]

3000 card are not being made any more "maybe not he 3060 8gb"

[golden talon]

buy another 3080 it doesnt really matter as long as its not a dual fan MSI card

[full fossil]

ngl im pretty tired of reading damos stuff

[jaunty compass]

the more they talk the more asinine their argument is 💀

[indigo plume]

i just want 3080 from a brand I trust

[golden talon]

so buy it

[indigo plume]

I dont trust pny or whatever

[golden talon]

so dont buy it

[manic torrent]

prices are TEMPORARILY UP, probably because christmas, wait another few weeks.

[full fossil]

Oh my god wait no, that hits hard

[manic torrent]

it's ok they had a years+ supply when 40 series came out 😄

[indigo plume]

i wont

[golden talon]

so stop complaining

[indigo plume]

I was told 3000 series cards were over stocked why are they so expensive

[golden talon]

because supply will never keep up with demand

[indigo plume]

shouldnt they be less vs more if there is so much stock

[golden talon]

stock means nothing if demand is high

[full fossil]

Still hits hard…

Man when people start selling 30 series cheap, im buying them all up, and ima hand those artefacts down my cousins family line (I’m not having a family myself)

[vast yarrow]

will a cx750m 2017 work with an b660m bazooka? its missing one 4 pin atx power connecter? im planning to run a 1080 but also an i7 12700k

[indigo plume]

at at the price of the 3080 rn id be better off getting a 4080

[jaunty compass]

"I don't trust pny, the company that makes the Quadro line, the most reliable Nvidia GPUs"

💀

[past egret]

it doesnt get anymore cheaper than msrp here so just buy as you can

[full fossil]

Do that then

[jaunty compass]

It's your money, do what you want with it

[manic torrent]

because life is not that simple

stock in a warehouse of the distributor is not stock for retail

[indigo plume]

nah aint spending that much money on a gpu

[full fossil]

Boutta be me:

https://open.spotify.com/track/30uCmqegKQnH5AbOE51gPD?si=1LTxsp1TSFaKnfNVx4PnYQ&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A02Dib95qXvTej4DkuR4z0S

[indigo plume]

also wy amd lie about 7900xtx performace

[vapid smelt]

?

[indigo plume]

they said 70% increase in performace

[full fossil]

Then get the 3080, we don’t care

[indigo plume]

50-70%

when most reviews ive seen show 35-40

[manic torrent]

.... you say "lie"

[indigo plume]

they did lie u cant say they didnt

[full fossil]

I gotta a song filled, with shit for the strong willed…

[manic torrent]

AMD's performance claims for the Radeon RX 7900 XTX put the card at anywhere between 50% to 70% faster than the company's current flagship, the RX 6950 XT, when tested at 4K UHD resolution.

[indigo plume]

they said up to 70%

[full fossil]

Up to

That means from < 0 to 70

[indigo plume]

yes and mutiple reviewers have showed only like 37% increase

[vapid smelt]

?

[manic torrent]

that's per watt

[indigo plume]

did u not see slide where it said 1.7x faster

[manic torrent]

get the exact claim. back it up with facts.

[manic torrent]

also if you think that a product announcement isn't hyperbole, you're insane

[echo ridge]

and cherry picked

[indigo plume]

its straight up lying

[manic torrent]

I think that 1.7x is with ray tracing on, and it went from a slideshow to POSSIBLY PLAYABLE

[indigo plume]

and being dishonest to the customers

not very consumer friendly