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Silly check the simple words in your DM 😂
Well for fighting we have some rules never use always. Since it’s clear things don’t happen always.
“You always does this and that” is not constructive
Okay most of the time
a lot of the time
I say no cussing while I'm listening to N.W.A.
And try to look for a solution so this happen most of the time. How can I be better?
It isn’t my fault I was born in wedlock, and that my mom found out she was pregnant when her and my dad were broken up
I was born
Regrettably
I was
HOW COULD YOU
Real
Oh boy the CO2 you are making!
You are part of the problem of global warming 😂
My parents were married for ~6 years when I was born
I produce nitrogen, I’m better than all of you
Might even be worse
I should’ve been aborted
Nah
Relatable
I’m the superior life form
Dead life forms? Is that not in some way AI? Zombie like?
It might be as simple as a dirty fan, it might be a failed component and the laptop is gone. I suggested a few places to start looking.
Its a laptop
I’m better, I’m stronger, I’m smarter, I’m the fucking #1 baby
Laptops have fans?
I am #4 for both my parents .... both had 2 Kids before meeting the other
last one
yes? Most
What is the age range
Yeah, but not all have. Bust must
Yea, I know. That was a response to him responding to me suggesting to check the fans by saying it's a laptop. I knew it was a laptop.
i am 26 
Oldest is ~40
Context is a magical thing

-s
(and no, i didnt meant Bust mut)
Honestly I really wanna go up to both of my parents and just ask: “so when are you guys getting divorced”
ah yeah. Havent understood that. 
Oh nice
I dont know whats nice about that but thanks 
You are old man
yes
I love the whole stitch thing you got going on
Ohana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind :D

i got SO many emotes
Are they gonna buy you a sorry PC if they get divorced or something lol
I already have a kickass pc that I paid for
2 Times Christmas Presents 
Better ask them fast, so it works this year 
It needs a lot of improving tho kek
Too bad SLI is dead, could ask for two GPUs.
So when are you guys going to get relation ship counciling? Alcohol is also an option offers beer
2 7900xtx in crossfire
I doubt you alrady got one. And if you have, PLEASE TELL ME HOW
@full fossil
I don’t, I have a 1660ti
are you mathew
At the moment i am Building an ITX Build and it will get an 7900 XT i guess
Get me one too :D
/s
Didn't AMD dump crossfire too?
Yep
Only game that scaled perfectly with multi gpus was gta5
I never had a crossfire setup.
ahhhhhh no.
I already got myself 2 Ryzen 9 7900X
Cause maybe. JUST MAYBE!!! i destroyed it. JUST MAYBE!
When I get a 7900xtx I’m using my 1660ti for encoding / compute
Haha
I can fully max everything in GTA 5 now, asides from the option to make it internally render at like 32k. It's cool.
ha. ha.
Yeah....i was not so happy :/
But yeah, i was dumb and it was my fault. At least it was my fault and not someone i could get angry about
What happened?
wait i search for the picture
Y'all out here breaking parts I can't even afford
The only pet I’ve had die on me was a lga1151 motherboard
Parents are fighting, again. Fucking hell
Sucks
I was doing a budget build for a friend and he went with a mining 3070 on eBay, we ended up having to return it because it crashed in multiple systems while gaming.
So instead I sold him my 3070 and got a 3090ti
same
I can't get a job anywhere
Yeah same
I live in the middle of nowhere and don't have a ride
and I don't have a bank account or anywhere to accept online payments
Discord App wont let me upload pictures 
I tried to (dont know the englisch word) Köpfen the CPU and it didnt work that well 
German.
You don't have image permissions in this channel
Remove the Heatspreader
Ah....That tbh makes sense :D
Delid
Delid
Yeah. Much to expensive
Mhm
And now Cheese doesnt accept DMs therefore i cant send him the picture directly 
The picture still hurts 
✅
That's not what the how was in response to
The link wouldn’t embed if he wasn’t a nitro booster
That poor 7900x
ahh....Yeah.
Cut the silicon with a cutter and a little to strong wiggle and ripped everything off
Not enough heat, too much force
Only if they had their own channel so they didn't post here
No heat, too much force (wiggle)
yes.
The second (still working) CPU got into the oven without wiggeling before
Kek
You should use a heat gun you know that right?
Oven worked prefectly. And i had a dead CPU to test it
Ofc i didnt set it to 300... i slowly increased it. Didn't want a second paperweight 
300° Balls 
My index finger hurts any medical advice?
We can still over the profile....if i only would have spotify
Did you just promote self harm?
Hit your other Fingers, then u will only feel them
hOw DaRe YoU
Gonna cancel you for hurting my feelings
Medical advice? See a doctor. Do not trust people on the internet.
i'm gonna cancel your feelings 
What you gonna do now?
Is that a death threat?

Remember karma Niko 👍🏻

I'd rather die in pain than hear a 3 hours lecture from my family for being on the computer 14 hours a day
That only leaves 7 hours to sleep 😨
Why did this make me laugh
so 5h of sleep and 2h of "homework" 
Sadly single and forever alone 
You had me question my maths for a second, I get 8-9 hours of sleep every day
With my doggo 😌
Well why are you that long behind the pc? Just wondering 🤔
same.... since many years
Could be I don’t know his situation
r
GOOD IDEA! I will plant some grass near my pc so i can play PC AND touch grass 
To avoid talking to people and i'm a bit addicted too
Why are you addicted?
Well, im mostly addicted not talking to people is just another reason
I mean like in person I don't even speak in VC
lemme call you real quick 
Do you got something to add to this conversation?
Well you don’t know anybody to speak to. 🤷♂️ are you lonely sometimes?
🤷🏾♀️
I do have friends we play together too I just don't like talking, When I was around 3rd grade the teachers used to get angry when the whole class starts talking so I just still have a fear deep inside that I can't get rid of
hey I wanted to ask
in old YouTube videos they were in mostly white text with a blue background (idk how to properly describe it) but they looked like a slideshow with its effects
could yall name the program used for making such videos (not powerpoint or some other presentation software)
it looked something like this
I can't send images here f
it looked something like this but the background is mostly blue
?
thats a lotta messages
god damn

you can try, but it would be ill-advised
Wanting to slide into his dms 😏
🗿
bored at school. what should i do?
pay attention
dig for gold
Dig for gold and share it with the teacher as soon as their back is turned
ight let me go get a bucket
yall know where the deals channel went?
oughta grind some Miner VGA for the next World Series
Y'all know how people complain that in schools they don't teach important stuff like how to pay taxes, etc.?
I mean, there's a lot of vagaries in that question, but go on.
We had two courses and two tests related to taxes alone
what type of school are you in?
Well we had those in primary school
Also what country, and what location, and what demographic, and etc etc etc
Now I'm in Lukio and vocational school
Finland, but y'all don't seem to get my point
you don't seem to get my point.
As I didn't get the chance to explain the entire thing
ah, doing both simultaneously?
Yup
ok, please, go on.
the point is. nobody cares
do go on :)
people live in finland?
yeah, about 6 people
So, it's pretty nice how here we actually study stuff that's important and we had teachers who made us actually question things and to make us think about solutions ourselves
Is your point that the rich and powerful do not like education because an educated populace is much harder to control? and it's easier to get them to undermine their own schools to keep their children in the same level of darkness they are in? Because... yeah.
And that the current trend of anti-intellectualism, particularly in america is extremely worrisome.
and that you have massive privelege being born and living in a country where you have good education etc etc
❤️
You know what, fuck you. I was just thinking about how happy I'm for having a functional education system and ya came to be mean about it
ANYWAY, so how about them computers
ltt only always nsfw content
tbh, the quality of education in Finland has gone down because of budget cuts
It's 1:30 anyways
not at all. It's awesome that you have that.
It has but it still works
I'm just encouraging.... perspective
Also the new extended education law is really nice
Anyway, so I think I'm going to get a 3080ti or a 3090 to replace my 3070
Because it's not quite there at 4k, and now with the 5700X it runs much better, so time for a new graphics card.
comprehensive education seems to be mostly alright still, but vocational is dismal
I can get them for about $1100-1200 AUD, which is v nice, but need water cooling block
3070 is not 'high end' I mean, I paid a high end price for it, but hey
didnt you spend that on your 3070 
3070 is mid-high end
more 🙂
upper mid end
I'm studying data networking at the vocational school. We have good teachers and most the tools we use are open source tools anyways so I don't see any problems in my daily life
it'll only make things worse with the low budget :/
it sure is a lot better than what most people have
oh, absolutely. It's amazing in that perspective, it's just what you're measuring against.
True but when your both parents have very low income, it helps alot
I'm in my third year, the teachers didn't even teach anything this autumn
we literally went there, sat on shitty chairs for a few hours, and went home, having done nothing
My dad got retired when he was 45 cause of health issues and my mom's been working as that helper teacher thingie, don't remember the term
teachers aide
Oh well that sucks
"Koulunkäynnin ohjaaja" is the Finnish term
does anybody know how to capture just the game audio in streamlabs? currently i can capture the game audio baked into "desktop" audio where it captures ALL the system sounds.
Calling a 3080 mid tier sounds crazy
yeah I don't disagree
3080 10gb is mid tier
you could use voicemeeter potato, set the game output to use the secondary or third virtual input and route it seperately
I'm glad I got an internship because being forced to attend school where you end up doing nothing, really gets to you
can it do 4k60 with dlss and w/o rtx? if yes, high end on my book
ah yes i was trying to remember what it was called. thx!
a rx 6700xt can do that with no dlss
do you mind if i message you in case i screw up?
Technically I'm in 3 schools so I have plenty to do 😂 (two Lukios)
just @ me here
aye, thx a lot!
But hey, it's free education. Why not take all the advantage out of it?
I disagree with that — 3060 is mid and 3080 ti is extreme IMO
My phone has seen better days
than what is the 3090ti
Also extreme
also extreme
super ultra mega extreme
Why does extreme end need to be just one card?
3090 / ti =~ titan
it looks completely buggered
I mean... it still runs 🙂
gonna daily drive that?
haha, no that picture was taken on my new pixel 6
Why not? I've seen people daily drive phones with black screens
They managed to activate the accessibility option ment for blind people
i made this in 3d paint a year ago its very official and cant be changed
oh you don't wnat that. My gods are horrible.
a working display is alleged to have benefits when it comes to getting things done
True, but do you need it?
No, bless you, not me.
yeah I do. Also because I'm not poor.
Understandable, have a great day
life is too short
Also, the gods I believe in are corporeal, so there's that
well, in my case specifically, yes, because I'm hard of hearing and would have trouble navigating my phone with audio only
Fair enough
I have it the opposite, my right eye doesn't work proprietary
Properly*
I can't see shit without glasses either lol
My eye is proprietary confirmed
I'll swing by tomorrow and we'll jailbreak it
That'd be great as the eye doctor said they don't feel like doing anything to it
So getting it to work would be nice
wait a card that is just a hair faster than the $215 rx 6600 is mid in your opinion 
I've always thought about 60 class cards as mid and 50 (and below) as low end
well they're still 400+ € cards
if we had a 3050ti i would agree
Well, I wouldn't say price determines the tier
it's a factor, but not the only one
like, the GTX 1060 is still usable, but it's definitely low-end
hey i need a good mouse i have big hands
g502
is that a logitech mouse?

in today's terms, it's low-end — at the time it was released, it was absolutely a midrange card
i hate logitech so mucg
Yes
For one thing, we're alright with daily driving the g502 because it'a not a highly recommended mouse for nothing
why do you hate good mice
For another, we cannot feel your hate and we don't want to know why

Prolly the same reason why other brands get hate, Asus Razer Tecware CoolerMaster etc.
lmao this
i dont hate those brands just every logitech product i got suck
bad luck doesn't happen everytime
You need more base stats, and better 20-sided dies
I never had issues with my Logitech stuff
after having switched to the Magic Trackpad, I haven't really looked back tbh
Desktop* or
I've yet to game on it, but for everything else it's so good
yeah, for desktop use
I don't really use macs
they're brilliant for creative work
Even so, the trackpad is so tempting
all of pro first person shooter gamers use Logitech shroud even did a deal to get a "shroud mouse" https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g303-shroud-wireless-mouse.910-006103.html
the only downside for me is that the port is at the back (the wireless sucks because of all the interference), and that it's Lightning
I use lightning on my 3 daily devices 
My bluetooth JBL headphones starts to lag and drop connection when i turn on my water faucet in my kitchen, headphones are connected to my pc via BT, which is located at the other side of house, this also happens with earbuds. Non of these headphones and earbuds have active noise cancelling, nor do i have a waterheater, or one those sink shredder thingys you americans have, i live in Finland and its just a normal looking faucet connected to main cold and warm waterlines. I've been suffering from this for years now and today was a first day i found someone on Reddit was having almost exactly same problem:
I use an iPhone as my work phone, it's so annoying to have to have a separate charger and cable for Lightning though
I miss the bliss of only having a USB-C charger with me, maybe two in case I needed to charge multiple devices
The only usb-c devices I use are the work laptops
iPad, iPhone, Airpods
All lightning
my phone, iPad, MacBook and work laptop are all USB-C
Not an iPhone, right? 
I've mostly gone USB-C, but I still have a couple of printer cables and Mini-USB cables with me (musical equipment uses printer cables, and my ancient 500 GB Samsung HDD is serving me well)
my personal phone's a Sony Xperia 5 III
so much wasted money and waste on useless ports
if only there were USB-C to USB-B cables so I could stop carrying so many dongles
Which is why, when xmas comes I might switch over to a usb-c ipad
... that uses usb 2.0

well lighting is 2.0 
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MXLY2AM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable-1-m?f $19 for a 1 meter usb 2.0 lighting cable 
The only mass-produced Apple device with Lightning usb 3.0
Yep
why is this 18 € for a USB 2.0 cable :(
They quickly realised that if they bring 3.0 to "lower margin" products, it'll cut into their iCloud storage subscriptions. That's why the iPad Pro remains one of the only devices to use TB on USB-C
So, F500 shareholder expectations. Fuck your shareholder expectations.
there was a similar cable, 1 m, for 10 € but it was USB 3 so couldn't use that
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832BL1HC?tag=synack-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1 any idea why this drive is so cheap? I'm looking for NAS drives (just for media), and this one is way cheaper than the rest. Is there something wrong with it?
USB 3 isn't a connector spec.
that dang renewed one getting my hopes up
So it's just not a great deal? I'm a bit confused.
it doesn't seem stupid cheap, it's just reasonably priced
because its made by Toshiba
a USB-B 3.0 cable won't fit into a USB-B 2.0 slot
understandable tbh
Er, yes it can?
ahh. there's just SFA devices that actually use a USB 3 B
nah it has an extra bit
There can be, but the usb-a end is still compatible
yeah but the B end isn't
so hangon, what devices did we actually want to connect?
yeah, but I was looking at USB-C–USB-B cables
But… why usb-b?
what devices are you connecting
you pay more for that LED
musical equipment, like keyboards, sound cards, etc.
connecting to what? If there's multiple, just use a C-> A hub.
I'd like to carry less dongles (or less bulky ones at least) than what I currently do
to my laptop
So you carry a laptop, but you plug it in to random equipment that typically uses USB B ?
yeah, and the MacBook only has USB-C ports
best solution - then you can use a USB C cable, same as you can use for charging etc
ah right, I forgot to look at something like that, thanks for pointing it out!
I am the master of cables and adapters - I have so many of the damn things.
I am constantly changing and fixing and modifying and adapting cables.
this is just some of the connections
here, battlestations, build-a-pc, many choices
I strongly recommend wall mounted monitors.
unfortunately my local retailer doesn't have such adapters, and shipping from smth like Amazon is gonna be super expensive for smth like that, probably :/
it was like $5 with free shipping on ebay from china
Lightning is better for shareholder expectations
I might as well get the whole cable tbh, if I'm trying to eliminate unnecessary dongles and stuff from my bag
lightning is a better PHONE CHARGING plug. Because it is more resiliant, and has nice big connectors and is easy. it's absolutely fucking shit at anything else
But it stays in better!
I can hang my MacBook off a USB-C cable, so not sure how valid that point is lol
Wait till you require 70% of optional USB-C specifications in order for it to work with 2024< apple products
I already live in USB C world, so eh.
If you're plugging and unplugging that often just get one of those magnetic connection cables
my laptop I'm using to talk to you literally has two thunderbolt devices plugged in
There will be an outrage against Apple because most people can't use their $1 cables and $5 chargers for the new usb-c iPhones

cooler master... something? I think
Looks like a msi/cm case
THERMALTAKE H550 TEMPERED GLASS ARGB MID-TOWER CASE
I've stopped buying USB-A hardware, but still use some on my desktop and at work (namely keyboard), though some equipment simply does not come with USB-C (*cough* my MIDI controller)
I mean, you could buy a heap of those converters and leave them in the devices.
yo
I suppose, but I'd like a more permanent solution (if I'm buying stuff after all), so I'll make do with the USB-C to USB-B cables from the store
what in usbnation
Tar = usb
does anyone have a solid gaming mouse pad for like 20 bucks they can send me? preferably amazon
amazon probably has one they can send you for 20 bucks
Quick question, how legal is YouTube to mp3?
Depends if you're downloading some copyrighted audio with it or not
probably against youtube TOS, but would entirely depend on the licensing of the media
I’m just using it to put some videos I like into the radio of a game
Oh it's definitely against YouTube tos
but nobody cares 😄
you can get round it by using another format. i.e. ogg
Nop
wtf?
that has nothing to do with anything
That definitely doesn't make it not illegal
you could be using .aiff
The LTT Northern Lights desk pad features a dynamic and colorful design on the left, and a clear mousing area on the right. Care instructions: We recommend spot-cleaning our desk pads with a damp cloth and a mild soap/detergent (if needed). If the pad is especially dirty it can machine-washed cold on the delicate cycl
yes but the question posed was strictly constrained to a particular format
... which is irrelevant to the issue
there's dozens of those
oh, lttstore.com you say?
Little tip, use it on an old laptop you don’t like and just put the mp3 files onto a flash drive since the one from converting will be spammed with notifications
thats a nice looking deskpad
Either way it doesn't matter
If you download copyrighted audio without the proper licenses it's piracy and illegal
and the pirate police will shoot you on sight
Yeah we wouldn't want that
Ima sound dumb as hell
But doesn’t it fall under private use? Or is this not covered by it
that's ok we are used to that here
Different situation
no - that's if you own the media and are transcoding it. you do not own it.
and just cus you own it doesnt mean you get to resdsitrubte it
Yeah, hence private use. You using it for yourself only. If you own it and are just transcoding to a different format for yourself
home taping is killing the music industry
I know I have some cassettes with radio recordings
Thanks for helping teach me
Shit, I bet that’s what makes my old laptop slow
I’ll dig through it later and se what could help it
i can't send pictures
i can
I can
I’ll definitely get my my Irish cd on there
must be a skill issue then
boopahoopa
bloatflane
penguin played Learn to Fly
guys how do i use nvidia broadcast for discord
i have it selected but no1 can hear me
you need a mic
prolly
i have one
turn it on
it is on
plug it in
alr bud
select the proper input device
been did that
oh well its broke
i can hear myself when i test my audio
through discord?
but when im in a call they cant hear me
it doesnt look like im talking either
make sure the call is using the input device
yes
it is
maybe theyre trolling you
no
my green aura dont move either
any1 else can help?
SinkPlane
nvm i fixed up
enalptaolf
guys can someone help... I keep getting WHEA UNCONTROLLABLE ERROR BSOD, I tried sfc /scannow, DISM command, and did DDU and installed drivers which worked for sometime then started again... I have no idea what to do now.
My specs: Asus TUF F15 laptop
Core i5 10300H
8gb RAM
gtx 1650ti
Windows 11
The issue started after i set spiderman remastered settings to very high
why do so many people us this chat as #1027757333117415424

Good question there
sorry will post it there
common sense isnt as common as you think
@full fossil So what kind of cheese are you?
colby jack
Bland
wrong
I like colby jack but I'm more of a Sharp Cheddar or White Cheddar person myself
Or a Pepperjack cheese
i just got a ad for a russian alienware knock off called thunderobot
Funnily enough I actually don't like provolone
Should i get a rtx 3070 zotac twin edge or rtx 3070 thunderbolt
it does not matter
tldr
Tldr: he used a similar system complained about Wi-Fi interference, which was the topic of todays video
ty
I just saw one of the bendy/flip screen phones and they're dope
Actually had me wishing I had one. The form factor when it's open is just perfect
yeah I have had many of the same experiences. If it's something you CAN wire, as a rule, you should.
Words to live by
Fold or Flip?
fold is a bit of a hit and miss, flip -
"flip" Very nice meme
hey everyone
whenever i power off my pc and turn the plug off and then reboot it the bios and time resets and this error shows up
it takes 2 tries to boot when this occurs
Asus tech support just tried to tell me to ask an anime studio for my RMA, because it's the Evangelion motherboard
i tried to replace the CMOS battery but that did not help
I think you need to ask #1027757333117415424
I was just...trying to share a support goblin being comical
why are you turning the plug off.
uhh at night
ur supposed to
so a fucking thunderstorm doesent fry the damn thing
thats what $20 surge protectors are for
Not going to lie, if I know a thunderstorm is coming, I shut down and unplug all equipment except for networking. (“Minimal networking mode”). Network equipment is easily replaced. Other things, not so much.
Other than that, I leave everything plugged in.
Howdy
Just get a cheap-ass power strip with a surge protector on it
Unplugging your computer when not in use isn't how the systems are made to be operated, and it's not too surprising you're having weird issues with the time when doing it.
The CMOS battery specifically keeps the clock going, so the fact that the time keeps getting reset even after changing the battery is… very odd.
Maybe the battery was installed upside down?
It's not that odd, he probably just has a shoddy motherboard.
I have a UPS in my closet with a battery that doesn't work and it makes funny screeching noises when I plug it into the wall
I'd replace the battery, get a new UPS, or get a $20 power strip.
They do have finite lives
You have to be pretty oblivious to still use Kaspersky in 2022.
whys that
testing shows kaspersky is time and time again the best antivirus solution
They're heavily partnered with the Russian government, they're a Russian product, and there's been evidence that Kaspersky has been used for espionage.
They're like half FSB at this point, which is the successor to the KGB.
there is nothing wrong with being a russian product and they have said they have no affiliations with the russians
politics shouldnt matter when it comes to how good software is
This is 2022 man
I have to agree with Netham on this one, which is why I do not trust any Chinese software.
american companies mine your data too
"I posted a meme about an agency that operates as an intelligence wing of Russia, how did this ever turn political?!"
it's just how the internet works
it's 2022
There's a huge difference between mining data and actively scanning peoples' computers for interesting material during scans
do you have any proof behind these claims
There's a Wikipedia article on Kaspersky's issues along with tons of other articles about governments shunning them. You really should do a half-second of Googling before you run your mouth about how Russian government spyware is safe.
The Russians don’t want your vbucks
wikipedia article
😱
So you're too stupid to figure it out on your own and are insisting that you're going to keep spreading a literal tool of Russian warfare because you're too stubborn to consider that you might be wrong.
Lol
Whining about sources also isn't how you have a constructive debate. It's how you seem like a whiny kid on the internet.
have you not considered that you have your head shoved so far up your ass that you lap up any wikipedia article as fact and now go around saying that one of the most trusted anti-virus solutions in the world is spyware?
I mean, they found stockpiles of land mines, hand Grenades, dynamite- not exactly ordinary
Dude, seriously, go spend fucking 10 seconds looking into it.
the wikipedia article in question:
Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties
"lol wikipedia not good source" shoves Russian FSB up his ass

Question: Would you trust a Chinese Antivirus solution?
Yea, because no shit Kaspersky denied it
yes i would
Have you ever heard about anything Russia has done?
denying something does not make it an allegation my friend, an allegation is a claim made with no proof
Well that puts this whole conversation in a new light for me.
That's not what an allegation means. At all.
al·le·ga·tion
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noun
noun: allegation; plural noun: allegations
a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
"after leaving he made allegations of corruption against the company"```
this guy is a fucking dumbass
typically does not mean always
oh my god here comes the semantics
LOL
if you dont use software solely because of country of origin i believe the term for that is xenophobia
Here’s why you don’t trust Chinese software: ALL Chinese companies operate at the will of the Chinese government. Don’t cooperate with whatever they want? Your company gets shut down. And that’s literally the best result. Other results include disappearing and jail time.
Are you for real, Triage? Because you're saying some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
i will use north korean software because i judge based on quality of the product, not where the product's creators birthplace is
No. It means you are completely ignorant how China’s government operates
"Edgy teenager ignores the state of global affairs because he thinks it looks nice on the internet"
So when the Chinese government says “spy and steal or you lose social credits” you do it or your life is ruined
but these people are saying not to use russian software for the sake of it being russian
Companies will allow execs to go to china - and when they return, the phones are destroyed. Why? Spyware concerns
these same people probably let big data in silicon valley know every minute, intimate detail in their lives
You clearly didn't read or comprehend anything that was said.
you have no fucking proof
the wikipedia article you keep citing has no proof
this entire thing is speculation
No, I'm just not doing your googling for you because you're too fucking lazy.
i literally did the googling and every subheading is denoted by the word "allegedly"
There’s no citations for the claims?
"WAAAH I don't like wikipedia as a source" is NOT an argument.
i literally did the googling and every subheading is denoted by the word "allegedly"
Yea, and you got the definition of allegedly wrong and fucking argued when I pointed it out
can you define allegedly for me then? i provided the definition
Yea, the definition you provided that you then proceeded to misread
Then argued about when I pointed out you misread it
Goddamn, you're an idiot.
GO FUCKING LOOK I ALREADY TOLD YOU
here you go, this definition from cambridge does not have the typically in it
what are you going to fuss over now?
Just downloaded kaspersky and theres Russians at my door
😱
run the FSB bout to cap yo ass 🤣
You do realize that there's multiple definitions on those pages, right? right?
Please tell me you know how to use a dictionary
we are using the most common definition
LOL
you are the most disingenuous person i have ever seen
That's not how English works.
"There's this one way this word might mean what I want, THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHT WAY!!!!"
"Sorry we're going to use the definition of the word a total of 13 people in Scotland use to fit my narrative rather than the definition provided as the most common usage"
What is a claim WITH proof called?
Triage, my god, man. Just go back to school.
this is literally what you are doing
this guy went through 3 links to find one with multiple definitions
What? Every link has multiple definitions.
I typically see “allegations” used in the context of “not yet proven” as opposed to “without proof”.
Did you even click them before posting them?
Okay, so you looked through 4 links to find the one that fit what you wanted.
allegations are basically "you broke into my house" without signs of forced entry
Fuck off.
or something like "you shot me 32 times" without having one wound on your body
“The suspect allegedly broke into the house”.
that would be an allegation
an allegation is an oftentimes legal term to denote the fact that something is not proven
allegedly generally means until proven in court in a lot of contexts, it means without proof in others, it means unprovable in others.
There no burden of proof in my example. It’s simply a claim of wrongdoing. Proof isn’t part of the claim.
you can claim wrongdoing with no proof but nobody will care lmao
Honestly, if the definition of allegedly is what's keeping you using Russian software there's something wrong with you.
i can say you hit my car but with no damage to my car i look like a clown
Correct. It’s still an allegation until proven.
if what is stopping you from using good software is a speculative wikipedia article you should probably take the tinfoil hat off
You do know that Wikipedia articles have sources you can go look at, right?
which have no proof either
a summary of speculative sources is still speculation 🤣
But the summary isn't the source how can you trust it?~!?!?!?!?!?
(the wikipedia article)
i dont trust it, which is why im here arguing with you
LOL
"I don't trust this wikipedia article." "Well, then trust the sources." "I read the wikipedia article based off of the sources and I don't trust the sources."
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why “fact checkers” for social media is one of the biggest quack-schemes ever.
because the wikipedia article is a regurgitation of the sources? thus if the wikipedia article is wrong, the sources are wrong?
Shut up, kid.
LOL
You're clearly not capable of contributing anything meaningful.
“It’s a fact”. “I don’t trust your sources, so it’s rumor and conjecture- you’re gone. Bye”
this guy got nothing else to say
Jesus Christ what does this madness has turn into
actual monkey straight out the zoo
Yea, I don't know how to get through to someone as stubborn and thick as you.
skill issue
You're literally just making up how the world works.
i dont read an allegation on wikipedia and then live by it as a fact
it is what it is man
i hope nobody alleges you do anything bad to them because im sure you wont be able to forgive yourself
You have a serious lacking of critical thinking abilities.
you lack critical thinking
surely this speculative wikipedia article cannot be wrong

Hold up. This is literally how most judicial systems work.
right, but in most judicial systems these allegations only hold water when they are proven, at which point they no longer are accusations
again, i can accuse you of shooting me, but with no bullet wound on my body there is nothing of substance here
Pay more attention in English class, kid.
Okay, in your example it's clear that the accusation is false. Where's the proof the FSB allegations for Kaspersky are false?
because it's fucking speculation?
Hold up. An allegation does NOT mean the proof contradicts the allegation.
this is the same thing as
Ah, you didn't think that through.
"Meta is an American company so it backdoors to the CIA"
Speculations aren't all false.
"Google is an NSA asset due to it's geographical jurisdiction
Google is an NSA asset due to PRISM
of course not, if the proof is on your side at that point that allegation becomes guilt
Do I need to provide you sources on PRISM too?
you are now guilty
Allegations, speculations, and claims are all in the category of “not yet proven”. The “proof” can go either way, in which case it becomes a valid or invalid claim, speculation, or allegation
but an allegation (like in this case) with no definitive proof is jargon
if i say you shot me, and i have a bullet hole in my chest, and you are caught on video doing it, you become guilty
Your assertion of "no definitive proof" is asinine.
There's direct proof that Kaspersky-connected agents were doing things like breaking into home computers in America. It's clear as day in that article you "read"
your own source denotes itself by saying "Hey before we begin, we don't have any actual concrete proof of this happening" in the subheadings
the preface is literally "hey we dont know if this is really true or not but the dots line up!"
I’m just saying an allegation is a claim that hasn’t been validated.
yes
you are entirely correct
back to the you shooting me example
if i claim you shot me with no injuries to myself, i would probably be laughed at
"The dots line up" literally means there's some proof, lol. It's just not concrete.
That’s an allegation that has been proven to be false. It is an invalid claim.
It’s a bit beyond the allegation stage
Yea, but if I claim you shot at me and missed it would be investigated and they'd at least get you away from me if you were nearby.
circumstantial evidence alone has never been enough to prove guilt
This isn't a court of law
I don't need a legal decree that I can't use Kaspersky to stop using it
of course, that is your volition
If you alleged that I shot you and there was a bullet wound, we’d move to the investigation stage. Attempting to build a case to prove the allegation.

however you are going around saying shit like "kaspersky is basically russian intelligence" with absolutely nothing backing it besides a few breadcrumbs
Alleging something is divorced from proving it.
And when you can't build a case because the building the shooting happened in burned down you don't just say, "Whelp, clearly nothing happened because we can't see it."
no because you would look at your body for bullet wounds
"a few breadcrumbs" is underselling it significantly. Again, go read the full Wikipedia page.
You clearly didn't read it and you admitted you didn't read it. Shut up and go read it.
Quit typing and go read it.
Nothing you've said is valid until you familiarize yourself with the topic you're trying to discuss.
i have stated multiple times that i have no interest in reading an article that may or may not be true because that's like saying aliens may or may not exist
it fucking means nothing
Cool, if you haven't read the article being discussed then stop trying to discuss it.
"I KNOW NOTHING AND I MUST LET EVERYONE KNOW" - Triage
It’s why politicians are so… political. Anything they say or do can and will be used against them and everyone else at random.
look in the mirror bud
Wikipedia: Aliens might exist
Netham: It's free real estate
Lol. You're the only person here who doesn't get what I'm trying to say.
You are completely alone in that regard.
we are the only ones engaging in this debate?
your house is built upon a foundation that is not concrete thus it may or may not collapse
No? You're proving your mastery over reading again.
who else is arguing about this besides me and you
You're impressively oblivious.
name names?
Yep. Though I’m kind of interested in:
A) Is it real?
B) What triggered the block? “Crabs”?
… in case you have any background info on the meme
corewyyn has not been arguing with either of us
niko is shitposting
wunka is posting emojis
mythical is complaining about us arguing
I'm not going to rope other people back into this, but if you scroll up you can clearly see people disagreeing with you.
If you can't, then get your eyes checked.
aka i cant name names
make a claim, unable to back it, "i wont rope other people into this"
Oh, look, more whining about sources instead of scrolling the fucking page up a few lines and looking
i did, i literally namedropped everyone who was here in the past 30 minutes
You wouldn't even believe it if I told you who was involved.
i scrolled to the beginning of our conversation
this guy is incredibly disingenuous and in bad faith
Just frustrated at trying to teach someone with the mental capacity of a marshmallow.
And the stubbornness of an ass.
if you are unable to provide proof and sources for your arguments to even a marshmallow i can see why you would struggle
rofl
I provided proof, you decided you didn't like it like some sort of fucking Trumper or something and disregarded it all.
Good God, man.
kaspersky is definitely doing xyz - claim
kaspersky might be doing xyz - source
guys
this boils it down at the end of the day
one of my laptop's screw is stuck, how do i remove it?
its in a tilted way
Just hanging out because I took a nap earlier today and I’m not as tired as I should be at this time.
Triage, until you read the wikipedia article you're trying to decry you're just making an ass out of yourself.
but your wikipedia article shatters as soon as the word "allegedly" comes into play
You can't whine about sources then whine that you don't like sources you haven't even reviewed.
the word "allegedly" overshadows anything that follows
No, you just don't fucking grasp the concept of "allegedly"
Basic English alludes you.
we spent the last 30 minutes talking about what allegedly meant
Yea, and you were still wrong.
you insisted on choosing the definition 13 people used
in what way?
im literally using cambridge dictionary definitions
Because you posted fucking 3 sites that said I was right before cherry-picking the one definition that almost means what you meant.
merriam webster definitions too
cherry-picking isnt really cherry-picking when it's literally the most common and agreed upon definitions
English words have multiple definitions
Actually, you have a point here. However, due to Wikipedia also serving as a kind of community log, one might have to read further to see if the allegations were proven, unproven, or still disputed.
cherry picking is "let me skip the definition of the word the VAST MAJORITY of the population interpret this to be just so my narrative will fit"
"most common and agreed upon definition" isn't how English works.
which is what you are doing
you see how the definitions are tiered in a number hierarchy?
Prove that that's what the vast majority of the population uses.
Anyway, triage is an idiot
What's your source for that? I want citations.
We all know this
the number hierarchy the definitions are provided in
1
: accused but not proven or convicted
an alleged burglar
2
: asserted to be true or to exist
an alleged miracle
an alleged conspiracy
3
: questionably true or of a specified kind : supposed, so-called
bought an alleged antique vase
allegedly
ə-ˈle-jəd-lē
adverb```
That doesn't mean vast majority
But I don't see what you're arguing about and I'm guessing it's really really stupid
this 1, 2, 3, 4
Do you even know what majority means?
I don’t.
it denotes the most common definition of the term
You should
Literally just pointing out that Kaspersky shouldn't be trusted and he's hung up claiming that Kaspersky is fine because a source saying "allegedly". He didn't even get past the first paragraph of the page I sent him.
And somehow I'm a xenophobe now because I don't trust them.
no, you said Kaspersky was an FSB asset and a wing of Russian intelligence
Trust no1
based on a wikipedia article that literally denotes itself with "hey we dont really know if this is true or not"
Copy and paste the validation to the allegation. I’ll admit I haven’t read the article either, but I do t have a dog in this fight.
Yea, then I posted a page full of sources for that claim that you immediately ignored.
And continue to ignore.
but your wikipedia article shatters as soon as the word "allegedly" comes into play
Triage — Today at 10:50 PM
the word "allegedly" overshadows anything that follows
Yea, that's wrong.
Salutations
the validation is purely speculative as well
Salvations
when you build a house upon an unstable foundation the home is inherently unstable
We went over that. Your piss-poor cherry-picked definitions of allegedly that ignore any and all context are not valid. This has been pointed out over and over again. You seem to think that the top definition in the dictionary is the only possible definition.
Actually
we went over this cherry picking thing
cherry-picking isnt really cherry-picking when it's literally the most common and agreed upon definitions
cherry picking is "let me skip the definition of the word the VAST MAJORITY of the population interpret this to be just so my narrative will fit"
Why do they make salutation sound so much like salvation and salivation?
Sounds like the allegations are still in dispute.
it's literally the most common and agreed upon definitions
[Citation Needed]
yep, which is why they are not to be taken as fact
You admittedly didn't read the page or any of the sources, how could you possibly say that?
hierarchy of the order of definitions
Do you assume you know everything from a news article from the headline and never look any deeper, too?
Those don't mean anything significant. I already pointed this out.
because the word allegedly shatters the entire article below it
How can you know that if you haven't even read it?
but they do because they denote most common usage
ok netham let me set up an example
most common usage doesn't mean anything.
It might mean that 3/10 people use it that way
Which means it's wrong 70% of the time
To a point. For example, due to corruption or bias, it’s very possible the fact-checkers may dispute a fact. Trying to keep it from being seen as a fact.
when i see that in an argument about fact, i automatically disregard
I'm really curious what circumstantial evidence for a unicorn would be.
there is no need to continue forwards
And how a Unicorn is at all similar to kaspersky
it was an example
It was a bad example.
replace unicorn with whatever you want
It was a horrible example.
replace unicorn then, the example still works
With what? If I replace unicorn with Kaspersky it sure doesn't work.
you are reading a wikipedia article about the existence of life on mars
this article has troves of information, lots of circumstantial evidence, logic, etc. the whole 9 yards
but this article has subheadings beginning with "Hey before you start reading we don't know if any of this is true, this is just us putting 2 and 2 together"
when i see that in an argument about fact, i automatically disregard
is this better
No, you need to choose something that has significant circumstantial evidence, and it falls apart if you do.
of course, but we established earlier that circumstantial evidence isn't actually proof
We also established this isn't a court
ie. you were in the bakery the morning it exploded, based on this we can assume you bombed the bakery
That's not even circumstantial evidence.
it is?
No, that's a fallacy at best.
Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—such as a fingerprint at the scene of a crime.
we can infer, since you were at the scene earlier, that you bombed the bakery
it's entirely plausible you are the bomber
but it's also entirely plausible you aren't
how would you make a valid inference
so what would be the circumstantial evidence in this analogy
perhaps the man has to go to the bathroom for an oddly long time?
Being seen at the bakery at 4 AM dressed in all black with a flashlight?
that works too
Yea, someone doing that should be treated differently, no?
Or should the cops just roll past and ignore him?
it's entirely plausible you planted that bomb, but it's also entirely plausible you were staking the place out
Because that person would be Kaspersky.
the point i am attempting to get across is taking a very convincing non-fact and saying it as fact does not make it a fact
Works pretty well for that Rufo guy.
I don't disagree, but not what anybody was discussing.
I'm pointing out that if there's strong evidence that an organization is doing something malicious you should probably avoid them.
And you called me a xenophobe for that.
And refuted all the evidence because a Wikipedia article said allegedly.
but is that not what you were doing? you took a very convincing article with plenty of information and circumstantial evidence, but this article denotes itself by saying "we are just putting 2 and 2 together, we have not actually proved it" and straight up said that kaspersky worked for russian intelligence as fact
no, i said if you refuse to use software because of country of origin and country of origin alone, you are xenophobic
Yea, because I've actually followed the topic for a while and I'm not stupid enough to think a Wikipedia article saying allegedly is the end-all.
That's why I kept telling you to go look into it.
What is even goin on here lmao
But you refused entirely.
right but i am attempting to explain why i refuse to do so
Trying to get this idiot to quit recommending Kaspersky.
Just use windows defender ezpz
back to the house analogy, when you build a house on an unstable foundation, the house is unstable too no matter how well you built it
windows defender is amazing
Yea, and you keep making egregious and blatant mistakes in your logic and instead of reviewing where the mistake was you double-down.
Shoutouts to windows defender
Your house metaphor, like the rest of your metaphors, is fucking awful.
this message sums why up perfectly
Lol
I just see two green people fighting and I want to get popcorn
i was gonna post kermit the frog battle
i have no interest in continuing this hour long giant circle, i hope you have a good night bud
im out for the night
maybe tomorrow we should hop on a voice chat and sort this shit out
Nah, I don't want to waste more time on an idiot who clearly has no intention of listening.
Booo
same could be said about you, but it is what it is
Fight fight fight fight
You didn't read the information provided then continued on your asinine assertions. You have no intention of listening.
You didn't listen when the issue with your dictionary definition claims was pointed out, you didn't listen when you continued your shitty analogy.
You keep linking that like it's not complete nonsense.
I don't normally continue with idiots that long but what he was claiming was straight up dangerous.
Yeah someone could have DIED
IKR! He was telling people Kaspersky was fine and that it was the best AV.
And he got way too hung up on a single Wikipedia page saying allegedly.
Yeah someone could have DIED
Huh, Kaspersky died skydiving a few years back.
I'm curious now, what antivirus y all use nowadays ? Personally I have just windows defender when I'm on windows
Windows defender with malwarebytes as a sanity check program
I run the ESET and Hitman Pro offline scanners every month or two and run everything I download that's not off of Steam or something through virustotal.
Plus I have an older laptop I use for stuff like banking that I don't do anything else on.
An old 6200u thinkpad
Windows Defender always seemed fine, I was just never that fond of active scanning.
Would it cause an issue if I'd coil up my SATA cable?
I don't have shorter than 30cm SATA cables and it gotta fit in a very tight space
is the steelseries rival 310 good?
I've just used Windows Defender for a long time now, it's not too bad now.
Used to have AVG on all my machines, they got WAY to resource heavy for my liking so I gave up with them
I had Avast, then Kaspersky then Avira then Kaspersky again to just stop using antiviruses
But I don't know what to recommend in general when it's for others around me, i do trust enough myself but solutions like Kaspersky and others are like automated scans and stuff so might be easier for the less tech savy persons ?
built in windows defender is fine on its own now
they all use the same definitions and share their databases
probably not
as long as you don't bend it so harshly you break the cable
I hope I can find a shorter cable but haven't been able to find yet
if particles move faster when hotter then why PCs are slowing down when hot?
like electrons ect
more resistance within the silicone
because the silicone moves in the way of the electrons more
i believe atleast
Accidentally got a pro windows license and not a home so reinstalling windows🥲
Aka I was annoyed by the water mark
f's
isnt there some free software that gets rid of it?
Oh probably
💀
But this just resolves the remove suggestions from the windows menu
just crack windows bro (jk)
||and it is not expensive if you’re willing to go sketchy||
but for some reason, when I reinstalled it, I didn't get asked for a license, weird
also linux is an option 💀







