public-chat

[stark sluice]

hes aged amazingly

Honestly it's probably the beard that makes him look so great

[twilit pawn]

im installing amd adrenaline software, so, there is this option here in the right side which makes me choose between a 20.5.1 and a 20.10.3 and idk what to choose, cause the .5 says recommended and the other says optional as if it was heavier but better or smth

[lilac sage]

made 1 for myself. 1 for a friend. 1 for another friend. did a step by step walkthrough with one over the phone. and dismantled and cleaned and reassembled my current one

[modern terrace]

hell yeah, im so surprised it looks so good on him

[modern terrace]

linus went from the boy to the boy she told you not to worry about

[stark sluice]

A beard is makeup for men

[modern terrace]

unfortunately im not gonna have a good beard for a while

[indigo remnant]

ok

[livid dirge]

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B089GN2KBT?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image
how do i get the software for this keyboard?

cant seem to download it for some reason

[full fossil]

is qled better than oled?

is there motherboards smaller then m-itx?

[valid siren]

Yes, just not standard.

[split kindle]

can i get some help getting my MW2 running?

its probably something im overlooking, but ive been trying to get this game to work for 4 hours now

[unique needle]

what's your problem ?

[split kindle]

i click play on steam and it will load for about 15 seconds then quit

[unique needle]

well thats a crash, can i know your specs ?

[split kindle]

ive updated drivers, cleared old drivers, uninstalled and reinstalled, verified the game. nothing seems to work. i have a 5700xt graphics card

[unique needle]

i means cpu too

cause on some cpu the game just dosent work

[split kindle]

ryzen 7 3700x

[unique needle]

ah so no problem here

can you go to event observer and then see if the crash is registered here ?

[split kindle]

dumb question, how do i get to the event observer?

[unique needle]

type event on your search bar

then when you are in it head to windows journals (or it would be called logs) and then click on applications

watch for a a red sign and error text. when you see one click and see if one says call of duty modern warfare 2

my bad its called event viewer in english

you can also enter by writing eventvwr

[split kindle]

i dont see any errors for it in there

[unique needle]

ok

dumb question but have you verify the integrity of the game files ?

[split kindle]

yes. ive done that like 20 times today. also uninstalled and reinstalled the game 4 times

[unique needle]

ah i see

what process do you have open ?

running on your pc so to speak

[split kindle]

steam, discord, and wave link for my mic

[unique needle]

also do you have problems in other game s as well ?

[split kindle]

all other games run fine

[unique needle]

ik cod can crash if there's realatek process

[sonic spruce]

I got a blu ray player that plays blu ray and dvds, because of dvd play back, can it play cds?

[split kindle]

i dont see any realatek processes

[unique needle]

it should be able to play cd's. most of them are able to do it but not all

[unique needle]

strange, let me think

lots of people seem to have the same issue

[split kindle]

thats what ive been reading

[unique needle]

its prolly not your system but imma keep thinking for a possible solution

are they any logs left by the game

in the game's folder ?

[split kindle]

i dont see any

[unique needle]

uhm you did install the 22.10.3 yea ?

[split kindle]

i had it installed, then talked to someone else and they said theirs worked with 22.10.1 so i switched to that

[unique needle]

cause on the notes it says is the driver that support mw2

so you might wanna give it a shot

[split kindle]

i did. that was the first driver i tried

[unique needle]

ah ok

[livid dirge]

bro i cant download the rk61 software for some reason

[indigo remnant]

where do i buy keycaps in australia

[unique needle]

if i have any thoughts i'll put them here, sorry for this. you can refund the game easier on steam tho so i guess thats good

[cedar oak]

have you try running the game from exe

right from "B:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common"

[split kindle]

its all good. i appreciate the help

i have. i tried running it from the .exe and running it as admin

[unique needle]

i mean thats really scratching the bottom of the barrel but did you try to launch the game without the steam interface ?

but well thats very not likely to be the isuue

[split kindle]

i didnt know you could run the games without the interface

[cedar oak]

try closing everything but steam and run game

meaning discord / other overlays

[unique needle]

sorry i meant overlay

if you really want to get in deep troubleshooting you could start windows without any unecessary porcess and play the game

like remove all processes and hit use only required windows processes

but i dont think its an issue at all

[split kindle]

from what ive been reading on the internet, it seems like it might be a game issue rather than a system issue

[unique needle]

yeah thats why i am saying it might not be an issue

i am reading too and this game might need an update

very quickly

[split kindle]

ive seen people refunding and buying it on battle.net or uninstalling steam and reinstalling it or updating their bios... all without any luck

[unique needle]

yeah.. i am a cod war player and there was rough times

now its better tho very few crashes

but there was times where you could crash 30 minutes in every flippin time

and sometimes without even getting on the first menu screen

[split kindle]

for sure. they have their problems. but its mostly fine. just hope they come up with some kind of fix for this

[unique needle]

they will, it'll just take time and you can always refund the game if you want and grab it later for cheaper

assuming you did pay full price

but anyways thats up to you, hope you good luck with that

[split kindle]

thanks for the help

[unique needle]

no problems

[dreamy rose]

our internet always has these fucking issues where it doesn't work.

wouldn't be suprised if my parents are neglecting to pay for the internet.

[timber vault]

what if it was

linux tech tips

[full fossil]

When starlink satellite hits my house

[unique needle]

than it would how to burn down your pc software tech tips

[unique needle]

free internet lets go, who needs a house anyways

[dreamy rose]

what?

[unique needle]

linux just keeps not working with linus or should i say linus is dumb dumb dont know how to set up linux

he keeps bricking linux installs

[dreamy rose]

that was PopOS, majority of the fault was on Pop being buggy in the first place. anybody new woulda done that.

[unique needle]

he says it linux always not working for him but pop os yea not the best

i find that even manjaroo is better than pop

[dreamy rose]

yeah linux can be problematic at times. if you have no idea its worse

[unique needle]

oh crap pop so is on debian

didnt knew that

[dreamy rose]

Manjaro is better than anything Ubuntu based

[unique needle]

sure thing arch for the win

[dreamy rose]

Arch is really good yea but its got its problems.

[unique needle]

sure its got its problems but thats cause its on the edge of linux

its getting all the cool features beels and whistle and support first

so i'd say arch any day over debian

but for 100% stability than debian is the good choice

[full fossil]

What about steam os I'm very interested

[unique needle]

thats running on arch

its great and very good

[dreamy rose]

no desktop image yet. it is arch based with the best desktop for most so

[unique needle]

there is a way to gte working on desktop tho

[full fossil]

I saw a video where they moded steam os to get it on a desktop pc

[unique needle]

if you are willing to fiddle a little bit

[dreamy rose]

well there is HoloISO but thats no official

[full fossil]

https://youtu.be/fzBCR_C26QE

[unique needle]

its coming

yea thats true

[full fossil]

Cool can't wait to ditch windows

[unique needle]

uh such big words

[full fossil]

Dual boot plan

[unique needle]

you are not be able to fully ditch windows if you game on ALL game lauchers

[full fossil]

Games on steam os work on windows

[unique needle]

ah ok yes yeah

i am dual bootign manjaro and windows

thats the best plan i think

[dreamy rose]

the world would be better if the only launcher we had was Steam.

[full fossil]

Gamering on one and sitting on the other fornit to update

[unique needle]

so much better

[dreamy rose]

they have been dominant for nearly 20 years

[unique needle]

for the most part tho i haven't experienced that dominance so 😦

[full fossil]

And the cool thing is they can't really be a monopoly

So MORE STEAM

[unique needle]

blizzard re putting cod on steam is great

[dreamy rose]

i say Fuck EGS

[unique needle]

m$ putting their games on steam too

[gilded obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao1wgU3Idn0

[dreamy rose]

Sony too

[unique needle]

even sony wow thats good for now

[gilded obsidian]

sing it with me you dirty W's

[full fossil]

Sony being the dirtbag company along Nintendo

Wait nvm

[indigo remnant]

are these compatible with the RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK61
https://www.amazon.com.au/MOLGRIA-Keycaps-Keyboard-Sublimation-Japanese/dp/B09MK4N4FN/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=112QMMMHVUTLW&keywords=60%25%2Bkeycaps&qid=1667098514&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0LjkxIiwicXNhIjoiMy44NiIsInFzcCI6IjIuMzIifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=60%2Bkeycap%2Caps%2C229&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRkk2Mkg0VUo5TlRSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDUwNzg3M0JSSE1VUUhYOFhQNyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExU1oyMjhaSEdXWExGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

[gilded obsidian]

shh, listen

Check chip set..

[dreamy rose]

i wish everything came to PC so PlayStation really has no reason to exist.

[gilded obsidian]

Heyyyy

[full fossil]

Sony got sued for 6 billion recently forgot about what doe

[dreamy rose]

being a monopoly on Playstation store

[full fossil]

Ahh yes ty

[unique needle]

i don't think it will have no reason to exist, but with prices now. Yeah consoles (other than steamdeck) are not in a good shape in any way

[gilded obsidian]

wait a GD min.. I am longitme PC player.. im talking upgrading your ram gateway bro... I still love me some 3rd person PS5

[full fossil]

Sony rn

[dreamy rose]

i want sony to loose 6 billion dollars. so their PlayStation branch suffers a huge hit.

[unique needle]

i love pc star wars jedi fallen order runs like shit in d3d11 cause of ue4

[gilded obsidian]

FPS has no business in anything but PC, but COD players (children) say otherwise

[unique needle]

but with dxvk async its soooo goooood

love pc form the bottom of my heart

[dreamy rose]

PlayStation is a Shit platform with no reason to exist. it needs to go.

[unique needle]

and with ue4 cheat engine you can diseable motion blur form the character animations too

[gilded obsidian]

Build your rig like a man/woman and you will never look back...

[unique needle]

well what about xbox then ?

[gilded obsidian]

Console is console..

[unique needle]

m$ is doing so much harm with their series s

[full fossil]

I can't see building a pc manly/womanly but that the spirit

[dreamy rose]

Xbox is for those who don't want a PC but wanna play games

[gilded obsidian]

lol its 2022 young man

[unique needle]

dafuq so is ps i dont get it

[turbid canopy]

Kinda true for me

[unique needle]

you mean exclusivity

well m$ will make cod exclusive soo yeah (in a few years ik theres still some time)

theres that and all their exclusives too

[dreamy rose]

PS isn't better than Xbox, nor matching.

[full fossil]

So Sony can burn

[gilded obsidian]

Don't get me wrong I'll run around this bitch with the trump flag ~ 😉

[full fossil]

Breaking news: Microsoft bought Sony

[unique needle]

i mean nobody here talking about how horrible series s is for game dev

consumer standpoint i see but game dev its impacting everyone

[full fossil]

That's different

[unique needle]

even pc

[unique needle]

breaking news: m$ bought a planet called Earth

[dreamy rose]

it hurts no more than a low end pc does

[unique needle]

no it hurts much more consoles have stable hardware for game dev so they can make good optimised game with best ossible graphics

now having another WAYYY weaker console

its harming pc and overall consoles experiences

games by extension

[full fossil]

Intel Core i7-12700K vs i5 13600K, whatchyall think?

[unique needle]

for gaming i5 every day

[dreamy rose]

AMD is better

[full fossil]

I5

[vapid smelt]

what you smoking?

[unique needle]

i am gonna diseagree on that

[full fossil]

im intel either way, so no worries about anything AMD

[indigo remnant]

weed

[full fossil]

Intel smashed it with this release ngl

[dreamy rose]

not a 650Watt Power Supply

[unique needle]

very very true

• its a platform people already have

[vapid smelt]

i5 > R7

[full fossil]

13600K is cheaper, and seemingly faster than the 12700K

Do dislike the fact it's ddr5 only unless I forgot

[dreamy rose]

what else to expect from intel? slightly higher performance and even higher Power draw.

[full fossil]

Price point?

[unique needle]

more cores

[vapid smelt]

both amd and intel use dumb amount of power now get over it

[unique needle]

and better tasks distribution between thise cores

makes a big diff

but amd is not bad

[dreamy rose]

the E Cores serve to put better numbers on the box

[slate wing]

Something to note is that usually with more threads comes higher ram consumption.

[unique needle]

you seem to miss the point here

[vapid smelt]

and to murder the r7 7700x with a cheaper i5

[dreamy rose]

AMD is more sensible,

[unique needle]

e cores are useful for low impact tasks so p cores can focus on your game

[slate wing]

E cores are actually more efficient per die space and are fairly power efficient when powered limited, its just they are allowed to boost past their good efficiency range

[unique needle]

multitasking in the real world is better

[full fossil]

Wow

[unique needle]

no pont in arguing

[slate wing]

Only in tasks that scale really well.

[dreamy rose]

7000X3D. Murdered your case with one product.

[unique needle]

true but its still a new tech wait some time

[full fossil]

I was gonna day amd is acting big so they raised the price a bit

[vapid smelt]

the product thats not out yet

[unique needle]

ah yes dreams of products being real ones now

[slate wing]

Zen4 already has a large amount of cache even on the 7600x and throwing cache at the problem only helps in some tasks and is usually indicative of shit software

[dreamy rose]

doesn't matter. 3D V Cache kills any lead intel has.

[full fossil]

im surprised the i5 13600k is faster than the i7 12700k

6 p cores vs 8 p cores, i wonder if that'll even matter

[unique needle]

becuase for gaming you are looking for faster cores not more

[full fossil]

but 8 ecores vs 4 ecores

[unique needle]

does not matter much

[full fossil]

it isnt strictly for gaming

[dreamy rose]

point is what matters here is the higher numbers. only reason people like intel.

[full fossil]

i also do a lot of CAD work

[unique needle]

ah what will you do ?

[slate wing]

For gaymes it's pretty much gonna exclusively run on p cores

[full fossil]

but most CAD softwares care about core frequency

so whichever one clocks the highest is my best bet

[slate wing]

point is what matters here is the higher performance. only reason people like intel.

FIFY

[vapid smelt]

also in just power efficiency the i5 13600k beats the R5 7600x and R7 7700x while costing the same or less

[unique needle]

if you think so i5 but for cad i'd recommend more cores actually

[slate wing]

Their "power efficiency" tests are pretty bullshit

They don't normalize performance

[full fossil]

what CAD software actually utilizes those extra cores?

[unique needle]

true power effiencey aint the best thing about intel

[full fossil]

i dont think solidworks or autodesk inventor do, those are the softwares I use

[unique needle]

those softwarers i have no experience in

cant say

but freecad does use more cores if available

[slate wing]

And even if they normalized performance, if a chip was just plain our rated for lower base clocks it's going to have to boost harder and therefore harm it's efficiency more.

Measuring "efficiency" when parts are so close together is super fucking hard

[dreamy rose]

ok then how does a 13900K compare to the 7950X at 170 watts?

[slate wing]

So don't even mention it

[unique needle]

i guess we should say threads but ughh who cares about names

[unique needle]

i remember seeing a reviwer that locked the 13900k at 170 watts and got pretty similat results prolly like a mear 2% slower but dont quote me on that i forgr honestly

but search youtube there should be a video about it

[slate wing]

None of them scale well in perf per watt past around 60% of the "max power draw"

[vapid smelt]

not sure since at stock settings neither of them hit 170

[unique needle]

people fear the 300w results make me a little laugh cause common you will not see that 95% of the time

5% is benchmarking or rendering a very high bitrate video (even then gpu's can be used so yeeaah)

but i am NOT defending the power hikes tho that's bad on all levels starting with environment

[slate wing]

Pretty much the only thing you can gleam from those test is what cpu on what motherboard boosts the hardest.

AMD has the advantage in lower boost clocks and power draw due to a thicker IHS. Intel however can read line at higher power draw.

[wispy marsh]

Is there a way to hide/remove the combined system tray icon on w11?

[unique needle]

natively i dont think so

you'll need other apps

[wispy marsh]

I don't care about how I do it

I just want it gone, explorerpatcher doesn't have this option

[slate wing]

Is winaero tweaker still being updated? Maybe it has it

[unique needle]

i rmeeber some apps that were very good for taskbar customization but cant recall their names sorry

[wispy marsh]

Haven't played with winaero in a while

[full fossil]

Intel core 2 duo is the best cpu period

[wispy marsh]

Have you gotten issue 89 of senko?

[slate wing]

I've not actually read or watched senko at all, I just like fox girls.

[wispy marsh]

... Nope, winaero doesn't hide it

... huh

[slate wing]

Pentium D or GTFO

[wispy marsh]

Right.

Go read it

[dreamy rose]

its Athlon or nothing

[slate wing]

I will I just don't have free time rn, or the will to invest rn.

[quaint summit]

hey!

[wispy marsh]

🤔

[slate wing]

Athlon was actually good tho, so was bulldozer and piledriver to a limited degree

[wispy marsh]

This is blasphemy of the highest order. Mimicking senko without knowing anything about her smh. I'm gonna gatekeep you the hell out of this

[slate wing]

Listen I've seen enough doujinshi manga clips to have a rough idea

[dreamy rose]

Athlon 64 X2.

[wraith sonnet]

defending bulldozer.
Look I am an AMD fanboy but bulldozer was just BAD BAD BAD

[wispy marsh]

This is wholesome to the likes of classic kyoani animations

You cannot compare it to smut smh

[wraith sonnet]

First proc, got it when I was 10 for a system I built with my dad.

[dreamy rose]

nice

[wraith sonnet]

Fuck I think I have it somewhere still

[slate wing]

Bulldozer had decent int and FP math, it wasn't as good as Intel's offerings but it was still relatively better then fucking pentium d and netburst

[wispy marsh]

Hey, if you do like fox girls, there is another one I can recommend

Emilia from CrossCode. It is a fantastic game, Linus and his kids loves it too

[wraith sonnet]

Unfortunately it wasn't competitive in spaces that mattered at the time.

[wispy marsh]

I remember him mentioning the game because it is the only pixel jrpg that he has even remotely touched in the recent years (that is not for a video)

[slate wing]

Great another game to skin 900 hours into

[unique needle]

it was an offence to humanity type bad lol

[wispy marsh]

More like 90

[slate wing]

No, not at all.

[wispy marsh]

I spent 250h+ into monster hunter rise already

[slate wing]

Maybe you could say that about atom cores but not bulldozer.

[unique needle]

come on you couldn't get less l3 cahce

with bulldozer gen

[wispy marsh]

Hot take: atom cores are just lower-tier binned E cores

[unique needle]

it was horribly slow

[wraith sonnet]

It performed worse than the previous architecture and was a new architecture to begin with. AMD has far too many growing pains with generational updates let alone architecture.

[slate wing]

> binned when they are monolithic dies

[dreamy rose]

wasn't bulldozer just Mediocre and didn't live up to hype instead of being the worst thing on the planet?

[unique needle]

yep pretty much

[wispy marsh]

🤔

You're right

[wraith sonnet]

X670 still has absolutely FUCKED bios and My original X370 board only recently got a bios update that fixed the USB bullshit from the beginning of Zen

[vapid smelt]

200Watts fx 9590

[wispy marsh]

What would the public do if AMD went the big.little route and put e-cores inside the disabled ccx on cpus like 7600x?

[unique needle]

okay listen everyone its prolly not the worst ever thing i am sorry if i offended any bulldozer fans but it was bad bad like real bad

[wispy marsh]

I got the update last year on my x570 board

[dreamy rose]

it may not be as bad as people say it was then, but that does not excuse it from nearly killing AMD.

[wraith sonnet]

X570 having usb issues in the first place was inexcusable.

[unique needle]

true it wasent the only thing that got amd in trouble but it was vastly responsible

[wispy marsh]

It also had the hot southbridge issue, which I think it was mentioned to be a ryzen i/o die

[wraith sonnet]

Again, I am definitely an AMD fanboy. Hell I own AMD stock, but AMD is notorious for growing pains.

[slate agate]

actually not that hot running, we have had past chipsets that ran hotter and used passive cooling with no fans, in fact the X570S is still the exact same chipset, the motherboard makers just bothered to actually put real heatsinks on them that time around so they didn't need the fan

[wraith sonnet]

Genuinely I have never built an Intel system for myself or my family.

[slate wing]

Big little is.... Ehhh in the first place. Either go full performance with a few cores or go massive e core core counts.

[unique needle]

well how is it going now for your stocks ? i guess not that good but it will get better with the x3d's

[wraith sonnet]

I put money in before the 5800x3d and it soared, now that the 7950x performs worse than it in a lot of ways it's plummeted.

[dreamy rose]

it will get better with RDNA 3 if the best happens

[slate wing]

I would kill for a near 48 e core Ryzen desktop CPU if ram wasn't a issue.

[unique needle]

i am prety sure it will get much better

amd gonna nail that gen

nvidia is the one that opened the doors

haha

[wraith sonnet]

Before anyone asks, I DID NOT have access to 58x3d performance before any of you.

[vapid smelt]

2009 cpu vs 2012

[wraith sonnet]

I may have held one before Linus but I did not get to see it in action.

[wispy marsh]

Imagine amd's big.little cpu requiring so much bandwidth like the vega dies that you need horrible timings for it to perform decently

[unique needle]

but really ? so you own a lot of stocks at amd

[slate wing]

Didnt athlon FX have a shared FPU? would probably be a fair bit better if you don't Include FP math

[wraith sonnet]

Fuck no I own less than one share of anything

[slate agate]

amd has had numerous leads over intel in the past before bulldozer. they still were the underdogs. (manily due to intel's underhanded tactics like bribing/blackmailing companies not to carry amd)

[wispy marsh]

It'd really feel like we'll be back on Apple's M1/M2 devices

[unique needle]

so they do investors meetings for all stock owners ?

[lilac sage]

have you ever heard of the leaked architecture called Zen 4C?

[wraith sonnet]

No no no I work at an SI, that's how I got my hands on it earlyish

[unique needle]

without considering their size and value

[unique needle]

ah ok thanks for your answer

[slate wing]

Bandwidth isn't a huge issue on zen3/4

[wispy marsh]

No, not really.

[slate wing]

Infact it brings almost no uplift at all

[lilac sage]

basically little cores except not as small

[wispy marsh]

I've seen leaks of 7000X3D's

[wraith sonnet]

Also I never saw it powered on before the end of embargo.

I do want to again cast my opinion that they should be written as R7K

[lilac sage]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/model-numbering-updates-zen-4-epyc

basically AMD's equivalent of e cores

[slate wing]

A bigger issue with zen is the massive latency penalties talking between cores. Its worse intra ccx then intels cores and it's massively worse inter ccx.

[lilac sage]

atm zen4c is gonna be server space only

if its successful enough maybe AMD will make a new line of them

[dull violet]

Wubadubadabud is that true?

[wraith sonnet]

Can't wait for THOSE growing pains

[unique needle]

i imagine people want to get their hands on some meta stocks ?/s

[wraith sonnet]

[unique needle]

whose first ?

[lilac sage]

y tho

facebook is literally digging itself a hole

[slate wing]

I can't believe they didn't already go full little core on server considering how well everything "threads"

[unique needle]

i was kidding

[wraith sonnet]

Holding stock in companies I'm in NDA for is a pain in the ass

Probably going to sell explicitly for that reason

[slate wing]

I prefer shungite.

[unique needle]

but honestly it could be an investment possiblity if the stocks price drops buy lets say a mear 40%

cause they are going back up it will just take time

[wraith sonnet]

Rdna 3 should be interesting. For once I know nothing.

[wispy marsh]

Mate, too many words. Got a table or something?

[slate agate]

stock advice, don't try and catch a falling knife

it rarely ends well

[lilac sage]

no because I cant embed shit in here

[unique needle]

it should be indeed

[unique needle]

3 november its almost here, make your bets haha

[slate wing]

AMD already has good hardware, their library's are lacking.

Their AMDPro drivers which are the only way to get some features are plain worse then let's say the foss mesa driver's for some shit, sometimes but upward of 30%.

Their compute libs are also lacking and or sometimes don't even have support for recent hardware.

[wispy marsh]

I feel like verbal-vomit articles without clear, concise points and illustrations are a crime

[slate agate]

amd has the best linux support

compared to nvidia

[unique needle]

amd and linux is like linus and luke

perfect combination

[slate wing]

Intel in my experience has better Linux support.

[wispy marsh]

I would say intel has the best linux support

After all, AMD doesn't have a linux flavor like Clear Linux

[lilac sage]

from rumors zen4c=Siena. its gonna be Zen4 with half the L3 cache because that uses alot of die space. 2, 8 core ccxs for a 16 core ccd. its gonna peak at 64 cores from the looks of it.

[slate wing]

Like half of intels drivers are apart of the kernel lol

[unique needle]

community is here to rescue the day

[full fossil]

now stuck on 13700k vs 13600k

[wraith sonnet]

More excited for November 1, the raijintek cooler has me hyped

[full fossil]

wish there were some other benchmark tests using programs

but feels like im mincing percentages at this point

[wispy marsh]

We back to zen 2 bois

[lilac sage]

yep

[unique needle]

cant you ask for your store if you can try the programs ? on test rigs ofc

[lilac sage]

no wonder consoles and the steam deck uses zen 2

[wispy marsh]

But Clear Linux

[full fossil]

maybe, but i doubt they have CAD software for demo.

they're like $10k programs

[wispy marsh]

Nah, steam deck is hella cheap, that's why they don't use the latest-and-greatest

[unique needle]

its still worth a try

[wispy marsh]

The other Deck competitors are using 5000 and 6000 series apu's

[full fossil]

eh its fine.

[unique needle]

you could end up pleasingly surprised

[full fossil]

its a $100 difference, might as well just get the i7 13700k

[unique needle]

if money is no issue than all in

[full fossil]

yep

gonna be paired with a 4090 down the line

i'll keep my 1080 ti a bit longer

[unique needle]

wow thats a wonderful beast you will have

[wraith sonnet]

The deck is rdna 2, the APUs are still on vega

[unique needle]

yeah still strong even now

[full fossil]

really want to do a custom loop, but not sure if its even worth it vs an AIO.

[unique needle]

1080ti always feels like a mistake

like an nvidia oopsie

[slate wing]

Being on vega tho means they can be pretty good for light compute still

[gilded quest]

No it's great

[wispy marsh]

That feels like the laptop 4000 and 5000 series ngl

[gilded quest]

Oh that kind of a mistake

Yeah Nvidia fucked up lol

[unique needle]

laptop being called same as desktop is shady at the very least

[full fossil]

even nicer because i got the 1080 ti from work for free lol.

[lilac sage]

tbh at that low an FPS, you need GPU perf first.

[unique needle]

thats litteraly false

[full fossil]

My pc is frustrating me so much right now

we were upgrading the PC and it was a leftover part.

[unique needle]

awesome

[full fossil]

EVGA FTW3 card

[unique needle]

what a kind working environment

[full fossil]

has been a beast of a card

its bottlenecked with my 6700k, so atleast the new CPU will open tihngs up.

[full fossil]

engineering

[unique needle]

in what if you dont mind ?

[full fossil]

machine design in the pharmaceutical industry

[unique needle]

that sounds so interesting

so you designe new medecine machines

[full fossil]

but i recently switched roles with a new company, so im back in a manufacturing environment that produces high precision tubes for various industries.

we hold better tolerances than any other manufacturers in the US.

might be globally, not sure.

[unique needle]

so at the precison of a femto

or higher ?

[full fossil]

not to that degree, the tolerancing is relative to what the rest of the industry accomplishes, but we have better processes and technology that gives us an edge.

[unique needle]

i see

[full fossil]

0.0005 type precision.

which is very accurate for the industry

[unique needle]

thats pretty insane honestly

femto was a stretch ik haha

i was just curious to see if you could go that precise

[full fossil]

its a pretty cool process to see, it starts with a strip of metal, then its slowly formed into a tube using various stages, and simultaneously welded and then formed further.

we also have a process where we embed the tube with a particular fiber or electrical line.

[unique needle]

i guess the simple fact of witnessing that machinery working is by itself a pure dose of pleasure

[full fossil]

particularly difficulty because you cant damage the fiber/wire during the welding process, so lots of control for that aspect.

my gig at the pharmaceutical company was a lot more dynamic and varied a bit more than my current work, but the position i took in manufacturing offered $30k more than my last position.

[unique needle]

i see, do you control in real time the machine ? (i am a noobie in this sorry for my dumb questiosn)

[full fossil]

we actually did packaging machines for the moderna vaccine, lots of fun.

[unique needle]

or is it pre programmed

and you do the calculations before

[full fossil]

certain stages require manual modification, but for the most parts its hands off.

but it is a programmed machine with variables at every stage, they require modification contingent on the type of tubing, tolerances, client requirements, etc.

they use PLC ladder logic, im actually trying to modernize the programming foundation at the company because its a bit dated.

thats a huge hurdle because the machines run 24/7 basically.

so any implementations need to be seamless.

[unique needle]

i see, is the environment you are working in dangerous for the respiratory system ?

do you have any masks ?

[full fossil]

a little bit, mostly near certain stages of the process.

but it is a massive facility with tons of ventilation.

the operators probably should, but it isnt required.

not that volatile.

[unique needle]

yeah not as bad as clothing fibers that are way smaller

thanks for all those infos

its been very great talking to you

[full fossil]

no worries, glad you're interested.

[sonic spruce]

Ok thx

[unique needle]

i would like it if mods could consider opening a dedicated channel for 3d printing or truly anything related to cnc machinery

[lilac sage]

creative

[unique needle]

ah thank you very much

ah well thats the thing its not just cnc

[lilac sage]

man ive never been i nthere. it actually sucks

just posting pics

[unique needle]

yeah

i want pure cnc

so if the mods could consider that i'd be great

creative is not a bad channel just way too large

[lilac sage]

theres also the forums

[pliant karma]

👀 I do be lurking in random chats once in a while lol

[unique needle]

ah stop looking in here im tryin to get some privacy

[lilac sage]

I dont touch any channel below Other

except maybe off topic sometimes

[unique needle]

thats up to you do as you like

[pliant karma]

anyways went car shopping with my mom today. don't know how I feel about this color

[ocean narwhal]

dont like the weird sky blue gray color

[unique needle]

wait i cant see well is it white or a slight grey tone ?

[pliant karma]

lunar rock color as Toyota calls it

[unique needle]

i am very intested indeed anything new related (to tech - not necessarily) i am ready to hear about thanks again

[unique needle]

wow what a way to reference the moon/space

[wispy marsh]

Looks like someone took moss mixed with cement, and buffed it to a shine

Shiny avocado

[unique needle]

i am not fan of it

did you finalise the payments ?

[pliant karma]

nah we're still looking

[wispy marsh]

The color also makes me feel like I'm drinking olive oil

[unique needle]

oh and how can i say somethings to mods like a suggestion ?

[pliant karma]

Gonna make the decision in a month then we call up one of the dealerships to see what they have being shipped and reserve it

[unique needle]

okay, personally i am not liking the color and it might be that a majority of us too so what about you ?

[wispy marsh]

Merch messages on wan show next week

[vapid smelt]

ive already tried for a 3d printing channel

[unique needle]

they refused ?

[vapid smelt]

[unique needle]

ah so gotta spend tha monney

no way around that huh

[wispy marsh]

Nah, I just gave you the shortest way to get the CEO's attention

[unique needle]

ah ok well thanks for giving me a shortcut

[vapid smelt]

Even way back when, when it was a small server

[unique needle]

ah why tho they have content around cnc on their channels themselves ?

well i guess you don't know the answers

haha

anyways its their server their rules so gotta cope with that i guess

[wispy marsh]

Have you tried Shotcut? Shotcut is good stuff

[unique needle]

you are talking about the video editing software ? no never

i use premier cause i am luck to have for free but how does it compare ?

[lilac sage]

ngl I have never seen linus mention the discord server

he mentions the forums tho ever WAN or every other WAN show and it sometimes even appears in videos

[unique needle]

is he in the server to begin to ?

[wispy marsh]

It's just basic, and it works

[lilac sage]

yes he is

[unique needle]

ok thx

[lilac sage]

#public-chat message

[unique needle]

he big advantage is the fact of it being open source

so they have that going for them

[lilac sage]

btw if you ping him ur getting banned most likely

[unique needle]

i never intended to do so but thank you for the warning

[lilac sage]

nick heavy(NickLight) is the only LTT staff here that comes in semi often and he holds no real power. like he doesnt have mod powers

[unique needle]

yeah i find that strange that ltt staff never seem to roam here

[lilac sage]

prob the fact that its disorganized af

and like there are so many other ways to contact them

like forums, email, YT comments, merch messages, etc.

floatplane

[unique needle]

yeah

thats nice more open than most of the companies out here

and not forgetting the ltt reddit

[vapid smelt]

reddit is almost as bad as twitter

[unique needle]

elon where are you

[vapid smelt]

NICHOLAS CALLANAN*

[unique needle]

oh sorry i meant twi- yeah cant say that here i guess (username of elon on twitch)

[lilac sage]

lol ye i forgot twitter

most of Linus's controversies pop up on twitter

[dreamy rose]

i've seen this. it kinda reminds me of one of the Warthogs they gave out in Forza Horizon 3

[vapid smelt]

our nick heavy

[lilac sage]

shoot I never knew

[unique needle]

wait there is a max caps level

what

[dreamy rose]

for some reason they made a Warthog that was more pale in color,

[lilac sage]

theres a special CAPS PASS

[unique needle]

the twitter pass you say ?

[full fossil]

anyone here into cars and modifying cars?

[lilac sage]

pretty unique last name tbh. most ppl have Callahan not Callanan

[unique needle]

what cars ?

[full fossil]

pretty much anything

[lilac sage]

yes i modify my cars everytime i change the oil filter. :P

[full fossil]

sports car territory i suppose

[vapid smelt]

the people in #cars are

[full fossil]

oh didnt realize that was a channel here

[lilac sage]

Sometimes I even change the brake pads

[dreamy rose]

i like cars but hate JDM builds because they bloody ugly as hell.

[lilac sage]

ever compressed a caliper? those things SUCK

[full fossil]

i have an audi s7 tuned to about 650hp

[unique needle]

i only enjoy messing with little ev driveable thingies

oh yeah not my caliber at all sprot vehicules

[dreamy rose]

Gee Wiz?

[full fossil]

easy work with the right tool!

[lilac sage]

sure but im using a pipe wrench

[full fossil]

loool

tappy tap tap

[vapid smelt]

[unique needle]

?

what does it mean ?

[unique needle]

and with this segway form our sponsor

[dreamy rose]

those silly little EVs everyone hates

[vapid smelt]

whats a segway

[lilac sage]

Gee Wiz translates to Good Wizard obviously

Segway to our sponsor, segway

[dreamy rose]

G-Wiz or whatever, same shit

[lilac sage]

One Wheel?

[unique needle]

ah i see what you mean

yeah already got my hand on one

not very good i must say

really its the worst buying decison you can make if you want an ev

but for fiddling around they are precious

[full fossil]

Can I get a RIP for my computer?

[dreamy rose]

no. the G-Wiz. a stupid little Electric car nobody likes, its kinda like a Nissan Juke in Ugliness

[inland zinc]

hah. this place has no voice rooms. I wonder why

[dreamy rose]

what did you do?

[unique needle]

juke was not bad when looking at it but inside

it was not good the least i can say

[inland zinc]

oh you need floatplane vip?

[full fossil]

Motherboard shorted out cuz defective power supply

I was planning on going 13th Gen, buying a new motherboard soon

[unique needle]

still on warranty ?

[dreamy rose]

Gigabyte PSU?

[full fossil]

Nope, a rating on cultist tier list

Toughpower gf1 850w

[vapid smelt]

Tough to power on

[full fossil]

I hate you

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

and this time it is not over a picture of cheese

[full fossil]

Who wants to buy a 1660ti? 40 bucks

(I’m kidding)

(pls don’t kill me mods)

[dreamy rose]

Steel

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

mmm. yummy cake

[vapid smelt]

cheese cake the best kind

[full fossil]

I feel like he saved a bunch of those just to fuck with me

[vapid smelt]

i just google yummy X food

[full fossil]

Eluhma

[vapid smelt]

im ashamed of my self for not sending more picture during your fast

[full fossil]

Eloohma

[full fossil]

I’m never telling you when I’m fasting again

I’m still doing it, you just won’t know

[vapid smelt]

ill just text and ask your mum

[unique needle]

You shouldnt restrain abd keep private public info

Just a head up

[full fossil]

[unique needle]

The fast going to hide

[full fossil]

I have a lead for selling my cpu already

[dreamy rose]

anyone want my Stinky Celeron? 15 bucks

[full fossil]

If it’s a g5900 then sure

I’ll buy it

[unique needle]

Id take the stincky without the celeron please

[full fossil]

He'll yeah ez mc server

[dreamy rose]

N2940

[full fossil]

Honestly? Make it 5 bucks and I’d buy it

[dreamy rose]

comes in broken laptop, No HDD Included, (not a real ad)

[unique needle]

Gottcha my friend add the transportation price

[full fossil]

How do you package a cpu for long distance shipping?

If I made an eBay listing would I be allowed to post it here? Or would that be advertising?

[dreamy rose]

my friend gets one of those SD Card holders and files plastic bits off so it fits. he stores them not ships though

[unique needle]

No you cant

See rules

[full fossil]

Alright

I don’t even know if I’ll be able to sell my 9700f

It isn’t exactly in high demand

[unique needle]

Oh sure you will

[full fossil]

What should I price it at?

[unique needle]

Depends on price

[full fossil]

I’m thinking like 100

[unique needle]

Euh id say 100 to 12

120*

[unique needle]

Wow we got the same price crazy haha

[full fossil]

Well it’s reasonable

True

Might just set it as a bid tbh

[unique needle]

Yeah thats a golden advice

[unique needle]

Why not

But he can stop the bid no ?

[full fossil]

Yeah someone could swoop in and only pay 20$

[unique needle]

So you cant refuse to sell afterwards ?

[full fossil]

I don’t think so

I think you’d have to sell it

How does eBay pay you? PayPal?

[unique needle]

Ah thats very risky then not worth it

[unique needle]

Idk i never used ebay

[full fossil]

I’ll just do a buy-it-now

[unique needle]

Safest bet yep

[full fossil]

Motherboard is broken

[vapid smelt]

selling on ebay is too much work

[full fossil]

What do I do then? Hoard it?

It’s 4 generations old, I’m just gonna upgrade

[vapid smelt]

sell it local or send it to a e waste place

[full fossil]

Don’t have one yet

I have about 180$, gonna get a motherboard

[dreamy rose]

they already know they want 13th gen so theres no need to Intel Shill here

[neon mesa]

Local selling is kinda pain

[full fossil]

Probably gonna try and go 13600K, christmas is coming up

I wish I could go 13900K for productivity, it’s just out of my price range

[vapid smelt]

13700k as the same amount of P core as the 13900k

[neon mesa]

To be honest, if the work really require the minor time saving you'd be able to afford the 13900k

Don't waste money on it even if you can to be honest

[full fossil]

True

[lilac sage]

but the clock speed and extra cache :P

[full fossil]

Honestly probably what I’ll do, get a motherboard, and while I’m saving for a i7/i9, get an alder lake celeron, just to get it up and running

[dreamy rose]

you read it

[full fossil]

Is this a bad idea?

I need a pc, is this a good way to go about it?

[vapid smelt]

You shill amd so hard even when they perform worse over 50 watts

[dreamy rose]

probably

[full fossil]

I mean

I don’t have a pc rn

I need a pc

I can afford a motherboard, and it won’t take much more to be able to afford a celeron

[dreamy rose]

hmm. idk about Desktop Celerons and Pentiums. but ik mobile is around

[full fossil]

Have a 1660ti, planning on 3070, or 3080

[dreamy rose]

AMD is intresting, not Intel

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

13900K would be amazing, but like I’ve said, money

Doesn’t look like good value as of right now

[dreamy rose]

joe mama asked

[full fossil]

Yup

But still, I guarantee the 4080 will be like 1000$

Can’t spend that much

[vapid smelt]

1199*

[full fossil]

God damn

[dreamy rose]

i'd only buy a 7900 for 1000 dollars.

[full fossil]

Let’s hope Radeon has good value

[dreamy rose]

likely what they have this gen

[full fossil]

A 6900 is crazy value rn too

Might get one

[dreamy rose]

not true.

[full fossil]

Also arc gpus are workstation monsters

[full fossil]

Very true

[dreamy rose]

not in the GPU Space

[full fossil]

True

ARC is insane value for the silicon, just shitty drivers

[dreamy rose]

yes you are.

[vapid smelt]

in games intel card works well in it kills amd in value

[full fossil]

13600K crushes the 7600x in p2p

How many cores does 13700k have?

[vapid smelt]

and 7700x

[full fossil]

I forget

I’m genuinely thinking about am5 currently though

Not current am5, like zen4c

[dreamy rose]

its best as an Encoding coprocessor for Radeon systems. its perfect for that because its cheap

[vapid smelt]

its value is in the toilet

[full fossil]

Future am5

How far is am5 supposed to go, like zen5c I believe?

[dreamy rose]

not when you can use smaller PSUs.

[vapid smelt]

its fucking 50 watts or less

[full fossil]

I’m not thinking only about current value, I m also thinking of longevity

4 grand? where are you seeing that

[dreamy rose]

that means you can use a Cheaper PSU. don't be stupid about it.

[dreamy rose]

Suprim i guess

[full fossil]

im seeing $1700-$2000

[vapid smelt]

if you need a new psu because you cant handle 50-20 more watts your cutting it to short anyway

[full fossil]

If I go Intel I’m most likely going for high end ddr5 anyways

If I’m upgrading might as well go allout

[dreamy rose]

what so if the competition can run the same GPU just fine on a 650 watt PSU while yours requires a 750 at minimum its cutting everything too short?

[full fossil]

i gotta find my old 480 rad, chucked that thing somewhere. gonna be perfect for the new 13700k

I’m already convinced on Intel dude

I’m worried about power

what power scenario?

trying to use an existing PSU or new one?

[vapid smelt]

but we are talking about lower wattage cpus a 13900k can run a 400watt psu so can a 7950x

[full fossil]

I bought a new psu but it turned out defective

Not that all out

what the hell did you buy that it costs 7k lol

got some unicorn parts over there

that aint 7 grand lol

[dreamy rose]

i'm talking with a 4090

[full fossil]

yeah i could see the RAM being a big sink, but geez

what the hell do you do with that monster

[dreamy rose]

still' if you kitted each system out with the same 750 watt PSU the Ryzen would be a better choice for adding any extra bits.

[vapid smelt]

but with a 4090 money is not a problem so the $10 saving from going to a 750-850 watt pus is pointless

[full fossil]

i wonder how many frames you average on minecraft

My workflow is going to be heavy programming and CAD

1000 FPS or some shit lol

The cad is a hobby though

ayyy another CAD guy

[lilac sage]

CAD some bishes?

[full fossil]

im also in that boat, im settling for a 13700k

[full fossil]

3d print some hoes

computer aided design

softwares like solidworks, autodesk inventor, creo

[dreamy rose]

the point is you can still run a Ryzen/4090 system on a lesser Equipped PSU.

[full fossil]

A lot of them are crazy expensive

[full fossil]

pirate it if you're doing hobby work

[dreamy rose]

you get more headroom if you use that same PSU to add all your extra things

[full fossil]

Last time I did that I ended up downloading an egg mjner

i have them licensed via work, but i like my own standalone copy on my home PC

[vapid smelt]

$10 your over $10 psu upgrade and 50-20 watts you realize that right?

[full fossil]

well if you want solidworks DM me and I can get you the files

just be ready for a 10-20gb download

i have 2020, 2021, and 2022

various service packs

[dreamy rose]

i don't give a Shit about the price increase. nor is it related to the point of what i'm saying.

[full fossil]

Might have to

solidsquad is the team, maybe you've heard of em

[vapid smelt]

your point is that "intel uses to much power" and " you need a bigger psu"

[dreamy rose]

i may be a clown but you are the entire circus

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

thats a lot coming from that Berry Big Circus everyone hated so much

[full fossil]

Both of you are clowns for arguing over something so stupid

[dreamy rose]

i know right, Ryzen is better at Efficiency. deal with it. no more intel Copium.

[full fossil]

How much does it fucking matter

[vapid smelt]

o goly it uses a whole 50-20watts less what a chad move amd

[dreamy rose]

it does matter, when your Electricity isn't super cheap.

[vapid smelt]

a whole 3$ a year more in power my god

[dreamy rose]

on what Rate?

[full fossil]

sir it's actually $8.57.

;P

When you have solar

So you pay like 10$a month

I used to do that

[dreamy rose]

i don't spread Propaganda. propaganda is for politics.

[full fossil]

Then my parents decided to move

i just hook up my computer to my hamster mill where theyre generating electricity for me via snacks

👍

[vapid smelt]

if you pay a 13900k do you really think they are hurt on cash that they cant afford the extra $3-15 more a year for that 50watt increase?

[full fossil]

Exactly!

[dreamy rose]

nobody is caring for that part. the part is that AMD is more efficient. intel is a Space Heater in comparison.

[full fossil]

Could’ve gone way more expensive

[vapid smelt]

50-20 watts

[full fossil]

jesus, i feel like some of those parts are expensive to be expensive

1000$ motherboard

im sure another $500 z790 motherboard could do the same

[dreamy rose]

its still more Efficient. regardless if that looks small.

[full fossil]

I know a guy that uses a 700$ motherboard

what exactly does that $1k motherboard allow for that the $500 board couldnt do

[dreamy rose]

and you're not? coming all in my DMs like "YAAAA INTEL WINNNSSS!!!!!1!!" and what not

[full fossil]

i mean yeah, kinda curious

[dreamy rose]

no. you were the reason you got muted. don't pin your actions on me.

[vapid smelt]

$90 cheaper and faster massive L amd and intel is only using 13 watts more

[merry hound]

When do the arc a770 and a750 come out?

[vapid smelt]

months ago

[merry hound]

We’re can i buy one?

[dreamy rose]

i wasn't calling you names nor refusing to prove my point. you can pretend to play victim or you can own up to your mistakes.

[vapid smelt]

newegg

[full fossil]

How does the alder lake celeron’s p cores compare to the p cores from an i5/i7/i9?

[dreamy rose]

by your logic if they are buying something high end nobody cares for the small price.

[vapid smelt]

your point is intel uses 50-13watts more, the same as a light bulb!

[vapid smelt]

90$ and a mid range i5

[merry hound]

Are there any legit websites that are selling the Rx 6700 xt under $400

[dreamy rose]

you remind me of this kid in my class from 2 years ago who thought they were the top shit and told everyone that they were racist for no reason. absolute child.

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6rPPhk, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bVsTNc 109 when including a mbo

[dreamy rose]

there is no propaganda. believe what you want but it doesn't make you correct.

[full fossil]

I’ve done that already

[vapid smelt]

Amd really needs to lower their ryzen 7000 cpus to be competitive

[dreamy rose]

maybe you need to. not only do you play Victim you also tried to pin the blame of your actions on me. please dude, Grow up.

[full fossil]

lol

[dreamy rose]

yes you are. you are right now. you're just digging a Hole for yourself. just stop and go elsewhere for a Minute. you're clearly angry over nothing here

[full fossil]

[vapid smelt]

Would you guys rather buy a $309 13600kf or $399 r7 7700x (note the 13600kf uses 13 more watts but out performs the 7700x)

[crystal mirage]

amd just because of personal preference

[dreamy rose]

and i am. you're just pushing this Further. if you were refusing to talk you wouldn't be replying. now enough of this stupid Pissing contest.

[full fossil]

But the one that performs worse yet cost more and has a higher platform price

13600k

its ok guys

[dreamy rose]

7700X, because contributing to Competition is cool

[vapid smelt]

even when its $90 less?

[dreamy rose]

they never were loosing.

[crystal mirage]

well I like amd as a company more than intel that is the only reason

[dreamy rose]

tbf AMD is a better Company so.

[full fossil]

we should change topics here

lets move to 3d printers

anyone got one?

[crystal mirage]

not me

[dreamy rose]

don't start this again.

[full fossil]

what good horror games are there

havent played a horror game in ages

[dreamy rose]

unless you wanna provide proof this time

[full fossil]

sonic.eyx looks like an acid trip

yeah fuck that lol

[dreamy rose]

they Reverse Engineered ONE CPU.

[vapid smelt]

... was more then one

[dreamy rose]

intel flat out paid to take AMD out of SIs.

intel makes you PAY EXTRA for overclocking

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_Sg3CbSBo

[full fossil]

Why are we still arguing about amd vs Intel

[dreamy rose]

AMD made x86-64.

its why its called AMD64

AMD's technology is also not limited to their own products or windows.

is that a lie? look at linux ISOs. they say i386 or AMD64

[vapid smelt]

you cant talk sense into someone that wont listen

[full fossil]

What’s a good b660 motherboard for 160$?

[crystal mirage]

why are any of you arguing wont it be easier to let everyone have their own opinion

[full fossil]

Or less

[vapid smelt]

could get a z690

[vapid smelt]

ddr4 or 5?

[full fossil]

True

[dreamy rose]

ban me? what for? having Knowledge?

[full fossil]

Ddr5

[dreamy rose]

its DDR5 or nothing

[full fossil]

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8mhFf7/msi-pro-b660m-a-wifi-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-wifi ah for ddr5 $160 best you can do is get this b660 (but it can support a i9 12900k without throttling its performs due to bad vrams!)

[wanton glade]

Bruh yall fighting about and vs intel fr ?

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qnwypg/msi-pro-z690-a-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a 180

[gleaming cape]

is a lenovo g32qc for $200 good? or should i wait till blackfriday

[dreamy rose]

all of those are Lies. get out of here if you think anyone is taking you seriously here.

[dreamy rose]

no. this guy just can't listen to the facts

[vapid smelt]

mostly about boinic not getting over intel needing 13-50watts more vs slower ryzen 7000

[dreamy rose]

**you

[full fossil]

Hmmmm

[vapid smelt]

$20 more for z690

[full fossil]

I’ll do some research of my own, that seems promising though

[dreamy rose]

exactly what i just said. you can't listen to the facts. stop trying to sound correct wen you're obviously not.

[wanton glade]

Oh that weirdo again lol

[full fossil]

I have to account for tax and such

[wanton glade]

Bro, let's be honest, who the fuck uses 100% of the 12900ks

Why would you do that

Except if you're attempting to burn your pc

[crystal mirage]

well if you are cold and if you want to use a lot of electricity

[full fossil]

Space heater

[vapid smelt]

12900k outdated the 13700k has the same amount of P and E cores and they are better cores

[wanton glade]

Fr

Tbh amd is more than enough, plus it's cheap, and have lower power consumption, as well as lower Temps. Whatcho asking for

[full fossil]

I think I might actually go ddr4, put that money into something else

[dreamy rose]

my booting up my 12900KS system in Antarctica so my blood doesn't freeze over

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nGRYcf/msi-pro-z690-p-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-p-ddr4 160

[wanton glade]

Yeah man ddr5 ain't worth it, you can buy some much stuff with that money

[crystal mirage]

yes depending on which amd cpu you pick

[wanton glade]

Ofc

Wait, you aiming at threadripper or ?

We talking about ryzen 5000 series here

[crystal mirage]

oh ok

I thought you were talking also about the 7000 series

[full fossil]

Nice

[wanton glade]

Nah they ain't worth it

[crystal mirage]

yeah not atm at least

[wanton glade]

5000 series and 30 series are right about enough for you to run anything

Imma buy a 3070 5950x soon, for 3d modeling and graphics design

I dont need nothing more dude

[crystal mirage]

yeah that's probably smart

[wanton glade]

And cheap

[dawn fulcrum]

nice

[wanton glade]

Yeh

[dawn fulcrum]

i wana get a macbook for game design and coding

[crystal mirage]

but I'm am patiently waiting for rdna 3 even tho I probably wont be able to afford it

[dawn fulcrum]

lol

[full fossil]

You have to be joking

[dreamy rose]

old Connector

[full fossil]

It’s a shitty old connector that is still used for some reason

[upper hollow]

just gonna drop this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgBFTYdm0MM&ab_channel=DZMigo

not self promo btw

[vapid smelt]

you dropped this

[sonic spruce]

What do y’all think is the best gpu I can get for $55 usd or less that’ll work with my psu?

I think 1660 super? But idk

[cyan vapor]

For $55 someone might steal a gpu for you, but that's about it.

[random jolt]

I mean if ur willing to wait for another year or two I'll probs sell some of the old 1080tis for 55

[cyan vapor]

Actually, ebay is listing 1060 3GB for under $55

[polar fern]

People with all this new high wattage hardware are going to need these to keep their electric bills down:

Maybe an apiary for the wax too.

RGB candles

[sonic spruce]

Won’t work with my psu, power wattage is too high

[sonic spruce]

What about 6 gb?

[glacial basin]

probably more around $65-$75

[tardy stump]

Anyone Here use glasses?? I'm betting there is.
If you don't use your glasses while gaming do you experience eye strain and headaches on the side if your head ??

[echo ridge]

I used too wear glasses and no eye strain but I couldn't see much of anything

[molten flare]

Any projects that I can use waste heat from computer to heat my apartment?

[tired glade]

you can hock your water cooling system to big radiator

[full fossil]

Well Do you need liquid cooling? Even on max usage? GPUs already have large coolers, all is needed one large horn for the CPU

[tired glade]

air isn't great conductor

[wispy talon]

Use a custom loop and make a custom solution that will distribute heat to your apartment

[tired glade]

but you know, PC isn't space heater

[wispy talon]

Yeah it’s barely gonna heat up your room let alone your apartment

[tired glade]

maybe if its rendering non top and it's high end components

[full fossil]

Can someone please rate my into

Intro

I am starting a channel with pcs

[full fossil]

well how do we just, more air?

I have not seen double bladed fans to get huge static pressures.

[wispy talon]

Threadripper 3990x with 2 Titan RTX's computing AI stuff 24/7 😂

[tired glade]

that enough for apartment

[wispy talon]

A small one

[full fossil]

Isn't that hardware already underperforming, you can try companies to auction there server stuff.

[tired glade]

3990x is way hotter than Epyc version

[wispy talon]

We were talking about how to heat up an apartment and ended up here

[tired glade]

titan rtx is just 350w

yea, not that hot like 800w version in data centers

[full fossil]

you can just lit the carpets. it heats the flooring more.

[wispy talon]

Let’s swap it with 2 4090's then

[tired glade]

not really

[tired glade]

there are way hotter gpus there

[full fossil]

4090 Ti on the way. hold pattern.

[wispy talon]

500 watts x 2 = 1000 watts. That’s gonna be a lot of heat coming from it

[tired glade]

that not thermal energy

that consumsion

[wispy talon]

Nvidia seriously wants people's house to burn down

[full fossil]

you can just, steal a plug from apartment use and run heater on it.

[tired glade]

and it will be cheaper

[full fossil]

nah, they are goin dirty, gloves are off now.

[wispy talon]

But there would still be extreme amounts of heat coming from the GPU

[full fossil]

run it under the carpets and people will think it maybe some temporary maintenance.

[tired glade]

it's still not 1 to 1 exchange

[full fossil]

if you just want heaters, you can just get most watt/$, but I think that will be way older sockets due to way cheaper/decomissioned CPUs and there are ways to make it heat electrically (you may not even need to run things.)

[tired glade]

if you really want to safe, convert your apartment in to passive house and get heating floors

[full fossil]

PSU produce power for components and so does not produce that much heat. the reason we never though to cool our PSUs.

[full fossil]

how about you ask your lower and upper neighbour, you can sue them, since this heat will reach them too.

[tired glade]

still efficiency on space heater is higher

[tired glade]

why you need that?

[mighty grotto]

lol what

PSU cooling is important, that's why they have fans and passive PSUs are rare

And there is plenty to care about with how psu cooling is implemented, cybernetics has a noise rating for PSUs in addition to an efficiency rating

[thin fjord]

any good word on some black friday deals?

or is it still too early to tell