public-chat

[hollow pulsar]

….not tied to a Microsoft account either.

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, because motherboard

[manic torrent]

My dell came with win10 pro, but I use it for work, so it got upgraded to enterprise

[frosty kettle]

i feel like its because microsoft wants as many people to have windows

[wispy marsh]

You activate your license either by phone, motherboard or ms account

[manic torrent]

You're not wrong

[wispy marsh]

so now you have two licenses for the same laptop

[manic torrent]

yep.

[night heron]

windows keys bind to the hardwareid of your motherboard and they also provide you with a reusable key for if you change hardware

oem keys only bind to the motherboard and are not reusable

[manic torrent]

but the one upgrading it is the enterprise corporate key, so meh.

[wispy marsh]

A retail key is like the pp that unlocks most locks, unlike an oem key that only unlocks one lock

[manic torrent]

The worst thing about egpus is they break bitlocker.

[full fossil]

oh ok. so im just browsing on pcpartpicker, what win11 version should i get?

[wispy marsh]

But you can only use the pp 1,000 times

[night heron]

none you dont need to pay for windows

[full fossil]

also i dont understand why its a dvd, u cant put it in ur computer

[hollow pulsar]

Seriously? How?

[vapid smelt]

yes

[night heron]

you can just download windows install media to a flash drive and use it completely legally for free

[manic torrent]

bitlocker hwid uses pcie devices, if you boot with the egpu in, bitlocker can't decrypt your hard drive

[night heron]

and there's ways to activate it for free illegally if you choose to do so

[wispy marsh]

wtf?

[hollow pulsar]

Wow. That sounds terrible.

[full fossil]

yeah but you need another computer for that lmao

[wispy marsh]

Did you submit this feedback?

[wispy marsh]

you can use the same computer

[night heron]

do you not have access to any other computer at all

[manic torrent]

I mean.. this is a known thing, it sucks but what are you going to do. I just unplug, reboot, plug in again

[full fossil]

not if it doesnt have windows installed on it 💀

[wispy marsh]

What does it have installed on it?

[full fossil]

im making a new pc lmao

[hollow pulsar]

Wait. We change GPU’s every so often and bitlocker doesn’t hiccup at all.

[full fossil]

idk how to install windows on it

[hollow pulsar]

Wonder if it’s an encryption setting? I dunno, haven’t really messed with bitlocker.

[wispy marsh]

I see

Borrow a laptop or rent a $2 pc cafe

[vapid smelt]

use your phone

[wispy marsh]

Then you can use this to selectively debloat win11

https://github.com/bmrf/tron

[night heron]

you can download a windows iso file and create a bootable usb on linux

[wispy marsh]

Pretty sure his phone doesn't allow him to make a win iso

[vapid smelt]

https://www.makeuseof.com/install-windows-10-from-android/

[wispy marsh]

Imagine if he's using an iPhone

[hybrid shell]

wait what

[wispy marsh]

[full fossil]

jesus christ I DONT HAVE ANOTHER COMPUTER to do it. nor am i going to install club penguin clown OS

[vapid smelt]

https://www.makeuseof.com/install-windows-10-from-android/

[night heron]

just let him pay $150 for windows

[wispy marsh]

$2 an hour pc cafe

[night heron]

just point and laugh it's his money

[full fossil]

android sucks

[delicate solstice]

$150 for windows...

I pay like $3

[night heron]

i have never paid for windows

[full fossil]

from sketchy websites? good for you

[vapid smelt]

use a library or school pc

[delicate solstice]

Bought 40 keys, never had an issue

[hollow pulsar]

Nice Eve Pic

[delicate solstice]

Thank you ^.^

[wispy marsh]

To be fair, I bought a 80E windows pro retail key from pcworld a couple of years back

[manic torrent]

oh man, I played eve seriously for like... a year? But then I decided I already had one job, I didn't need two.

[wispy marsh]

It works, it's legit, but I don't recommend it unless you know who you are buying from and what they are selling

[delicate solstice]

Yea it can be like that if you really wanna immerse yourself. I have 12 characters XD

[hollow pulsar]

I’m almost a 15 year vet.

[full fossil]

is 1440p 240hz or 4k 144hz better

[wispy marsh]

What screen size and gpu?

[full fossil]

27 or 28 inch

[wispy marsh]

What are you going to use it for?

[full fossil]

3080ti or 3090

[night heron]

only you can decide this, it's subjective

[full fossil]

gaming and school

[wispy marsh]

Competitive shooters, regular rpg

[manic torrent]

I think it was more than a year, but we had lots of fun roleplaying environmental activists and killing miners saying that mining is murder

[wispy marsh]

What kind of gaming?

[hollow pulsar]

Lllolol

[delicate solstice]

The game is very different these days. I started in 2007

[full fossil]

some cyberpunk, casual shooters, warzone n shit

[delicate solstice]

They keep overhauling a bunch of things and it's interesting

[wispy marsh]

I see

[night heron]

personally i prefer having a higher framerate on all games, not only competitive games

[hollow pulsar]

❤️ Triglavians

[full fossil]

im trash at valorant but yes that too

[wispy marsh]

1440p 144hz with hdr on a 27". Your wallet will thank me later.

[delicate solstice]

Pochven is really fun space

[night heron]

there are no 1440p 144hz monitors capable of actual hdr

[delicate solstice]

Trig space, best space

[wispy marsh]

There are if you're talking "windows hdr"

[manic torrent]

I have this (no hdr) for my lounge monitor

[hollow pulsar]

I was in the fleet that conquered the first system for the Trigs.

[delicate solstice]

Nice!

[wispy marsh]

This is enough for most use cases, especially 8bit or 8bit with frc

[delicate solstice]

My alliance is part of RC who helped shaped pochven into what it is today

[manic torrent]

yeah it's 8+FRC. it's a nice IPS panel

[full fossil]

what specific monitor would u recommend

[hollow pulsar]

Nice. Nice to see a fellow Eve enthusiast.

[delicate solstice]

and now there's a faction warfare event, there's basically another invasion happening but with the main factions. So it's going to stir up high sec like crazy

[full fossil]

im looking at the samsung odyssey g7 rn

[night heron]

im using an odyssey g7 right now

[manic torrent]

my main gaming rig has the 48" 120hz

[vapid smelt]

some call that tv

[full fossil]

48"? holy shit bro

[wispy marsh]

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/display-finder

[manic torrent]

I just realised I am an idiot and I don't have to accept garbage sound, I have a spare USB DAC

[wispy marsh]

Read up the reviews on multiple sites for each monitor

[full fossil]

i honestly feel like getting a 32" 144hz+ 1440p monitor

[wispy marsh]

That's what I have

two 32" 1440p 144hz stacked on top of each other

[vapid smelt]

32inch 1440p is trash

[wispy marsh]

It's the same ppi as 1080p 24"

[fluid ridge]

youtube dark mode is dark dark now

[wispy marsh]

It's acceptable

[night heron]

32" 1440p is the very definition of meh

[wispy marsh]

I came from a 1080p 27" 240hz, I know what trash ppi is

[night heron]

it's the default expected ppi for windows

[manic torrent]

32" 4k is good for working, but it's a shit size for gaming - you either want bigger 4k, or a 27 1440

or an ultrawide.

[night heron]

32" 4k is great for gaming as well

[wispy marsh]

Besides, without a high-end gpu with good enough raytracing (6000 series is not one of these), you will have major issues running cp2077 with lowest settings of RT switched on

[manic torrent]

disagree - wasted pixels. You're getting very poor bang for your space/buck

[full fossil]

gulp

[full fossil]

its the same ppi as 1080p 24"... so u basically said 1080p 24" is trash when its the standard

[night heron]

it's not even close to retina so it can't be wasted pixels

[full fossil]

i think ill get the Samsung Odyssey G7 LC32G75TQSNXZA
its just the g7 but with 31.5"

for only 20 bucks more

[wispy marsh]

I can get ~100fps on cp2077 high, but with raytracing on amd6000 it's 30fps

[manic torrent]

retina is for working, not for gaming

[vapid smelt]

if im paying that much money i wont want a 1080p level ppi

[full fossil]

good point

[wispy marsh]

I got my 32" 1440p for roughly $300 kek

[night heron]

aliasing artifacting on fine objects in games is extremely noticeable with a 100ish ppi monitor

[manic torrent]

yes but with a 1440p you can turn the antialiasing up to a million

[night heron]

27" 1440p with antialiasing still looks like ass

it very noticeably destroys the sharpness of the image

[manic torrent]

I mean, look, it depends on what games you play

[full fossil]

anti alisaing is ass in general lets keep it at that

[manic torrent]

If you're playing anno, you 100000% want a 32" 4k

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, sorry for having bad eyesight

[night heron]

i would love a 24" 4k 240hz rgb-oled monitor, that would be absolutely sublime

but i dont think that will exist for at minimum a decade

[manic torrent]

and would be $texas

[full fossil]

dont oled's burn-in?

[night heron]

yeah

[wispy marsh]

Not if properly calibrated

[manic torrent]

yes, but it's not the world ending issue some seem to think it is

[wispy marsh]

Just return it for burn-in within the warranty period

[night heron]

oled will always have the potential for image retention and burnin because it uses an organic compound to create the light in the pixels

[manic torrent]

Not to mention that newer monitors are using white oleds for pixel backlighting, not rgb oleds.

[night heron]

yeah but i dont want a woled

[wispy marsh]

Unless the warranty specifically states that you can't return it for burn-in, in which case you should avoid that brand

[night heron]

the alienware aw3423dw has a 3 year burnin warranty i believe

[full fossil]

oh i just found a really good deal
MSI Optix MAG321CQR 31.5" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor
for 319 bucks

[night heron]

and the lg g2 has a 5 year warranty

[night heron]

if youre in the US this is a bad deal

[full fossil]

how lol

[night heron]

it's not a good enough monitor to justify that price

[wispy marsh]

Is that VA?

[full fossil]

whats va ????

[wispy marsh]

Oh shif

[full fossil]

speak in dumbass terms for me pls

[vapid smelt]

Virgin Alert

[wispy marsh]

I uh

[night heron]

va is as basic as he can describe it

[wispy marsh]

I gotta go

[night heron]

va is a type of LCD panel

there's many different ways that lcd panels can be made

[dreamy rose]

ok ok no need to flex your fancy Gaming TV.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/ips-vs-va-vs-tn#:~:text=IPS is the clear winner,color accuracy at moderate angles.

[full fossil]

virgin alert is a monitor type? lmao

[vapid smelt]

drugs

[dreamy rose]

yea man. its 86 inch 8K 240Hz

[full fossil]

Hello@vapid smelt

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

nahhh catch me with that CRT monitor 😎

[full fossil]

Grogu

[wraith sonnet]

I had to reset all of these

[full fossil]

I like that texture

On the lenovo speakers

[full fossil]

you're shitting out words faster than my tiny brain can absorb

[night heron]

their structure determines how well they can filter light (contrast ratio), how fast they can respond and transition between pixel values (pixel response time), their viewing angles (how far off center you can be before the image starts to deteriorate), their color gamut (the range of colors it can display), and any more aspects of their specs

[full fossil]

yall heard they bringing back OG xbox online? this group called "insignia"

[wraith sonnet]

Best version for a bedroom

[full fossil]

Depends on the person :P

Hi bob

[manic torrent]

I manage my monitor so I don't get burn in - it's not hard, but if you're a huge idiot, maybe oled is not for you

[night heron]

if you use modest brightness levels and make sure to not leave static images up unnecessarily long then getting burnin takes a long time

[manic torrent]

yo yo, how's tricks

[full fossil]

hardware bob moment

I noticed there's image retention on e ink too

[night heron]

new panels also use techniques like pixel shifting and uniformity testing cycles which delay the burn-in as well

youre probably using an oled phone in your daily life

and we leave static images up on those for a considerable amount of time

[full fossil]

Good wbu

[versed panther]

if you’re in the US at least, Best Buy is the only retailer with Burn-In Coverage on OLED TV’s.

so you can be an idiot and be covered.

[manic torrent]

although they are SUCH high ppi, that you can do massive pixel shifting/cycling

[night heron]

the ppi is glorious

[manic torrent]

yeah the US is strong on your right to be a huge idiot

[night heron]

i cant wait to see the day that a 500ppi computer monitor is commonplace

[versed panther]

only if you have money, though

[manic torrent]

look I don't disagree about having awesome PPI, but the fundamental way in which we address monitors like that has to change.

basically your monitor needs to have a level of interpolation etc.

[full fossil]

Lmaoooooo

[manic torrent]

but if that's done in conjunction with the computer, much like DLSS (in general concept), it will be awesome.

[night heron]

gaming at high resolutions being difficult doesn't mean that high ppi monitors aren't worth buying

[versed panther]

but yeah, my LG C1 I got on sale for $700 has a $230 warranty for 5 years that covers burn-in

[night heron]

but i agree that ppi isn't everything

you need to take into account contrast ratio, color gamut, pixel response time, refresh rate

[manic torrent]

no, but in terms of BFYB

[full fossil]

The cheapest 48 inch oled here costs like 900 bucks

[versed panther]

I’m actually hoping to get burn in after like 3 or 4 years, because of the “comparable model or refund” clause in the warranty

[manic torrent]

mine was $2.2k

[night heron]

and many more aspects of a display

[full fossil]

Urs isnt the cheapest, I'm talking previous gen entry level

[manic torrent]

this is previous gen, and they dropped to $1600 like .. 3-4 weeks later 😦

[versed panther]

when the 48” C1 isn’t available they’ll have to either bump me to an equal tier LG OLED (e.g a 48” c4/c5) or provide me the original sale price of the TV.

[night heron]

the lg c2 42" has been steadily dropping in price over and over

[dreamy rose]

really nice and smooth TV Wall

[night heron]

it's inched down to its current $1000 price

[pliant karma]

techii hi

[night heron]

$996.99 actually

[versed panther]

by then QD-OLED might have hit it’s stride and that makes it all the more worthwhile to me lol

[vapid smelt]

i will take 20

[full fossil]

Pandaaa

Hi

[night heron]

samsung did an uhoh and left the brightness of the s95b unlocked to its full 1500nits in SDR and later released a firmware update that locks it to around 500nits

[full fossil]

im getting the 31.5" odyssey g7 then

[night heron]

they probably realized shit we're gonna have so many burnin complaints if we leave sdr uncapped

because sdr is 99% of what you consume

[manic torrent]

and burned eyeballs

[full fossil]

I'd honestly get a 75 inch qled than a 55 inch oled

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[full fossil]

No matter the room size

[pliant karma]

vibing in flight sim hehe

[full fossil]

Pog

[night heron]

im not part of the bigger is better bandwagon anymore

[full fossil]

I am 💀

[manic torrent]

dude msfs on a 4090? That shit is off the fucking chain.

[night heron]

after a certain point youre just making it harder to see everything and making the image softer

it needs to be a reasonable distance:size ratio

[manic torrent]

for some years now that hasn't been true - it's not even a cost thing anymore, it's simply about what works best.

[pliant karma]

IKR but haha me GL trying to get a 4090 in itx, waterblocking is the only option

[full fossil]

I use an 80 inch projected screen from 11 feet , it's far enough

[dreamy rose]

who cares? not fun unless my entire wall can play the game

[night heron]

well yeah 11 feet is pretty far away from a display

my living room couch is maybe 6 feet away from the tv

[full fossil]

My living room viewing distance is 16 feet , so I def need 75 inches , already have 55 qled but need bigger , can't fit 75 inch oled in our budget

[night heron]

80" would be obnoxious and fatiguing to watch every day

yeah at 16 feet you need a huge tv

[full fossil]

Maybe we'll just get a projector

[pliant karma]

lol project is my friend used it on a couple of film projects to display fake backgrounds

[full fossil]

After about 10 feet i don't notice the quality jump from 1080p to 4k on the 55"

[manic torrent]

11ft is pretty normal for a lot of lounges I would think

[full fossil]

It's in a bedroom kek

[night heron]

that doesnt mean it's not pretty far away from a display

75 is perfectly reasonable at 11feet but would be pretty humongous at 6feet

[manic torrent]

hah, we don't have any TV in the bedroom

[vapid smelt]

they do other things for fun in the bedroom 😏

[full fossil]

It's in a spare bedroom

[manic torrent]

The reality is that for most of the time my consumption of the TV is random shit and I'm also doing other stuff. On the odd occasion we watch a movie properly, it's good enough. (also because we have a 5yo)

[full fossil]

Yeah it's too close at 6 feet

[pliant karma]

I haven't used the TV in my bedroom for a long time lol

but it's just there for htpc crap if I ever hook one up

[full fossil]

We use the projector frequently, i just use it to watch YouTube most of the time

[night heron]

the only time i watch tv in bed is if im putting something on for background noise to fall asleep to

im too tired when i get in bed to want to actively watch something

[full fossil]

I just play music and set a sleep timer

sony been releasing playstation games on pc finally but....... 2 fucking YEARS later than ps release like wtfffffffff

[pliant karma]

lol just hit cruise altitude and now we are descending shortly.

[full fossil]

Why so soon

[hollow pulsar]

Only 2? That’s not too bad.

[full fossil]

@pliant karma fly to my airport

[pliant karma]

short hop back home

[manic torrent]

We have a nest hub by the side of the bed, connected to a set of bookshelf speakers, so we have decent audio for stuff to fall asleep to/podcasts/etc

[full fossil]

bruh

it gotta be instantaneous for da MASTER RACE

[vapid smelt]

*or to set the mood 😉

[hollow pulsar]

Considering console exclusives are a thing, where the game will basically never come to the console of your choice (PC)

[pliant karma]

oh yea we don't talk about the default airports for India in FS, they're pretty bad soo I will wait till there is a world update for that area

[manic torrent]

lol, I still haven't got around to installing the rgb underglow to the bedroom

[full fossil]

Oof :(

[full fossil]

all xbox games have been on PC same day lately

cause microsoft is W

i piss in your mouth at night

[manic torrent]

have you ever met humans prior to today?

[full fossil]

I just connect my phone to the studio monitors with Bluetooth, my desk is exactly in front of the bed so that's convenient

hmmmm maybe because we dont wanna spend an extra $500 on a PS5 alongside having a pc

Lmao what

u having a pissing contest of who gets out more often 💀

[vapid smelt]

just leave if you dont like it

[hollow pulsar]

Are we making a mountain out of a molehill here?

[manic torrent]

See I find that interesting, because you are breaking boundaries (socially normal ones) and I'm calling you out on it, and you are calling me rude for it.

[full fossil]

monarch.... for someone who "gets out often" and has a lot of friends u seem pretty angry at people on the INTERNET lmaoo

[manic torrent]

aspergers? The [censored] scientist? yeah that's not how it goes my friend.

[vapid smelt]

why use autistic as a insult?

[manic torrent]

ooh man. You really really need some therapy.

[hollow pulsar]

I know I’m not all-knowing, but have you had a single constructive conversation on this server today?

[manic torrent]

I get therapy regularly 😄

[full fossil]

Momo

[manic torrent]

therapy isn't an insult, therapy is a necessary thing to get past your trauma and bullshit

[full fossil]

facts

weed is my therapy 💯

[manic torrent]

and deal with your issues, rather than repressing them, and then going online and spouting random shit at strangers

[vapid smelt]

cats > therapy

[full fossil]

I have neither , i need both

[night heron]

i think i’ll put the giveaway pc stream vod on to fall asleep to

either that or a dopeasusual podcast

[hollow pulsar]

I think cat therapy is actually a thing

[manic torrent]

ahhh, edgyman is gone. All edge and no point.

[full fossil]

@manic torrent think they got

and thats what us gamers call a "rip bozo" moment

plus ratio plus L plus cope plus ez

[manic torrent]

I mean, it's hilarious, because "omg you're autistic" ... yes. That is a fact.

[vapid smelt]

using autistic as a insult like that guy was is very

[full fossil]

"haha i give funny insult"
literally backfires

and then people say i have anger issues to try and make me even more angry but jokes on them it is a fact

i punched my 1440p 165hz monitor cause my mom pissed me off

now i just buy new one ez

good thing it wasnt her... cant buy a new mom yk

@full fossil bruh punch a pillow or smth

Why break tech

that doesnt hurt enough

listen i have good reason

doctor said that self harm is a coping method for teens because physical pain covers emotional pain... and it ltierally works

[vapid smelt]

exersize do release your anger do hit things

[full fossil]

tech hurts my knuckles so it supresses my anger

just dont cut wrists because u can actually die from that... u wanna break your knuckles or something because u cant die from it

they just heal back together in like a day

[hollow pulsar]

Where does your username stem from?

[full fossil]

broken knuckles = no cast needed like other bones need

im goofy and im skinny

goofbones

[hollow pulsar]

Gotchya.

[vapid smelt]

Now when you get old you'll have finger/knuckle pain

[manic torrent]

not just teens... people. but yeah.

also releases endorphins blah blah blah

[hollow pulsar]

Speaking of which. Time to sleep.

[night heron]

goodnight

[modest sierra]

apple reducded iphone 13 pro battery in ios 16 vs 15

damn... bro

[vapid smelt]

they did that with the iphone 6 too

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/22/16807056/apple-slow-iphone-batteries wait nvm they slowed it to "make the battery last longer"

[wispy marsh]

Uh...

It is a software workaround for a hardware limitation

Also, the battery % is recalibrated each time you do a major iOS update

[vapid smelt]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/09/27/apple-ios-16-iphone-battery-drain-battery-life/?sh=376e722f5583

[wispy marsh]

Too bad my phone can't run iOS15

[vapid smelt]

android phones would never have this problem massive L for apple

[wispy marsh]

Yep

Because android phones drop their software support much much sooner into the life of the phone

That's why responsibility for battery swaps and longevity is instead pushed to the user

Imagine getting flak for pushing out a solution to overcome hardware limitations on behalf of the user

The flak was spot-on in that they made Apple allow users to disable the slowdown, though

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfM0GqsIB6c andoird battery increase in size unlike apple

[wispy marsh]

Because there is no company that does android phones at the same level of vertical control and integration that Apple does

Androids nowadays cannot run with 4gb of ram for a good user experience

Meanwhile, the 4gb iPhone 12 is still thriving today

[vapid smelt]

and apple cant make phones with out using screens from android manufactures

[wispy marsh]

Obviously

It's what the company does with the hardware that makes them special

It's not the hardware

Let's say we're twins. You become a rock star and I become a state-sponsored blue hat

We technically have the same hardware, and you get my point

[vapid smelt]

my hardware is bigger

[wispy marsh]

[vapid smelt]

im missing hardware to i have no appendix

[wispy marsh]

I have no wisdom teeth

[vapid smelt]

same

[wispy marsh]

It's friday

Time for the wan show

[vapid smelt]

hacks its still thursday

[fluid ridge]

there is probably truth to the "saving battery" claim but there's definitely planned obsolescence too

[tawny thicket]

$162 for a single HDMI cable

[fluid ridge]

still using hdmi when DP exists

[sonic spruce]

So me and my dad are trying to watch tv together with headphones on cuz mom no like nosie

How can 2 sound devices play at once?

[tawny thicket]

my projector doesn't take DP

[wispy marsh]

one-to-two splitter for audio. NOT TRRS splitter.

[sonic spruce]

Link pls

eBay or Amazon

[sonic spruce]

One is Bluetooth the other is wired btw

So me and my dad are trying to watch tv together with headphones on cuz mom no like nosie.
How can 1 Bluetooth and 1 wired device play audio at once?

[tawny thicket]

Give bluetooth heaphones to your mom, have her use ANC, problem solved.

[sonic spruce]

She doesn’t want to

She also doesn’t want to go to a different room

[dreamy rose]

grab a Bluetooth DAC for Wired headphones

[tawny thicket]

Tell her she's throwing off your groove then have her thrown out the window

[sonic spruce]

Can 2 Bluetooth devices play audio at same time?

[tawny thicket]

They are both receiving, not playing.

[dreamy rose]

yes

[manic torrent]

you can play audio on an effectively infinite amount of devices

[dreamy rose]

they are just bluetooth speakers

[sonic spruce]

Well how can you do 1 Bluetooth and 1 wired?

Or not possible

[tawny thicket]

get a BT receiver https://www.amazon.com/mpow-bluetooth-receiver/s?k=mpow+bluetooth+receiver

[sonic spruce]

I have one

[full fossil]

where do i find the discount codes for the "promo discounts" on pcpartpicker??

also what is "mail-in rebates"

[finite cloud]

what about a splitter cable?

[finite cloud]

if your TV supports that sure

[manic torrent]

what it says on the tin. is your google broken?

[modest sierra]

*meant to say brightness

[finite cloud]

Mine has a picture of a tree on it so maybe

[full fossil]

where do i find the "coupon"

i think your google tweaking 😂

[wispy marsh]

I see

[timber vault]

220,000 gamers playin cod on steam rn

despite not having dedicated servers XD XD XD

[dreamy rose]

which one?

[timber vault]

the... the one that just came out XD

[dreamy rose]

🤷‍♂️

[vapid smelt]

didnt they have one last year?

[dreamy rose]

there was already a Modern Warfare 2 in 2009 why the fuck is there another one?

[kindred tangle]

if i connect wireless card into one of the gpu slots? Will that hit my gpu performance wise? my gpu blocks my x1 for wireless card

[lilac sage]

nostalgia

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-panoots-reddit-cartoon-so-much-nostalgia-gif-18298628

[lilac sage]

whats ur motherboard name?

some motherboards it will affect it. some motherboards it wont

most likely it wont affect it

[kindred tangle]

x570s edge max wifi

[sonic spruce]

LIAR

[sonic spruce]

LIAR

[lilac sage]

lmao

[lilac sage]

I would use the very bottom slot. the one that has no metal on it

[candid magnet]

https://vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter/

[dreamy rose]

thats not what hes looking for

[candid magnet]

it lets you play one audio on multiple devices

[dreamy rose]

not on a TV it doesn't

[candid magnet]

rip

unless you can do tv -> pc -> headphones

[lilac sage]

you use a 3.5mm jack splitter

1 goes to PC where bluetooth is

1 goes to wired

[candid magnet]

but calling people liars because their advice didn't work is funny

[lilac sage]

he does that alot

[dreamy rose]

thing is it does, multiple speakers can be connected

[manic torrent]

I mean, YOU might not be able to. But I can.

[vapid smelt]

its should be mandatory for everyhouse hold to have a cat

[stuck stratus]

that was intentional, iOS 16 draining more battery just means apple is still working out the kinks (also the new wallpapers are probably quite heavy)

[fluid ridge]

you ever just spend 780 thousand US dollars on 2 CSGO skins

[vapid smelt]

no

[fluid ridge]

https://twitter.com/KiritoTrade/status/1406229630915330050

[dreamy rose]

imagine spending money on Skins

[vapid smelt]

pixels

[fluid ridge]

apparently the most expensive is a karambit blue gem, the owner was offered 1.4 million BTC for it but he declined saying it was too low

i smell monee launder

big monee launder

[dreamy rose]

i woulda said so too if i could make Major bank off of the dreams of Discord moderators and Russian Kids alike.

[vapid smelt]

i only smell you go take a shower 👃

[fluid ridge]

shut the up you bozo.

also elon just bought twitter

elon more like ewon

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585841080431321088?cxt=HHwWgICl1e-DhYIsAAAA

[dreamy rose]

he did?

[fluid ridge]

yep deal closed

[dreamy rose]

hopefully he removes the shit telling guest users to make an account then.

[tight rivet]

Sooo... Guessing we got jebaited on the $1 PC? > _>

[vapid smelt]

did you give a rando 1$

[fluid ridge]

i hope he open sources and adds E2E encryption

[tight rivet]

No. lmao

[full fossil]

no, they just couldn't come to a consensus today on what to do

check the LTT twitter/community page tomorrow, maybe they will have an update

[fluid ridge]

why not :C

[tight rivet]

Figured they'd of done it like right after stream ended or smthn lol.

/shrug I guess I'll just leave my PC on and refreshing LTTStore and ebay constantly

[fluid ridge]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

[stuck stratus]

well if anything he'll paywall twitter even more tbh

[fluid ridge]

elon also immediately fired the CEO, CFO and head of legal, trust and safety

[stuck stratus]

twitter is gonna be a complete shitshow

[dreamy rose]

we dont need it dead. we wanna keep the morons there

[fluid ridge]

twitter is already beyond a shitshow

that shit is a rock bottom echo chamber

hopefully ewon will come in and open source a few things + E2E encryption maybe and less of a focus on datalogging

[stuck stratus]

im sure that'll happen after 70% of employees are fired

granted twitter's R&D is actually stupid

[fluid ridge]

paving the way for open source

less developers = need for contributors = open source

[stuck stratus]

they spend billions a year so they can invent a fuckin edit button

[fluid ridge]

open source = e2e encryption

[stuck stratus]

not how that works

[fluid ridge]

idrc about an edit button

but i do hope twitter is more privacy friendly

[stuck stratus]

open source requires maintainers, and maintainers require paychecks

[fluid ridge]

i know im kidding

[fluid ridge]

community contributions?

• 30% of twitter's employees is still a staggering amount of people

[stuck stratus]

fair

but the community isn't going to build twitter's software for them, just help fix issues

[fluid ridge]

that is true

but hopefully they will stop implementing features nobody asked for

such as twitter topics

[stuck stratus]

twitter's R&D in a nutshell:
https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ

[fluid ridge]

fuck elon should have bought discord

[stuck stratus]

god no

[fluid ridge]

twitter is actually such a useless platform now that im looking back at it

[stuck stratus]

elon can have twitter, I don't care

[fluid ridge]

save his ass 30 billion

[stuck stratus]

I actually like discord

[fluid ridge]

yeah i like discord too which is why ewon buy discord = discord better

[stuck stratus]

flawless strategy

[fluid ridge]

could you imagine if discord was E2E and didnt sell your data

actual OP platform

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-logging-on-twitter-hop-on-twitter-log-in-log-in-twitter-gif-25007881

[dreamy rose]

wouldn't be here

[long kraken]

/afk ?

Nope

[tight rivet]

Woah, Woah, Woah. Don;t insult fire pits like that

Logging into twitter is like getting kicked in the nuts with steel toe boots and giving childbirth mixed all into one

[full fossil]

and kidney stone

[tight rivet]

Even the devil wouldn't force people onto twitter as a torture

[manic torrent]

hahahaha, stupid crap audio devices. Just got my USB DAC out of where I'd stored it and I'm using it instead of the output on my HP thunderbolt dock, and it's night and day.

[opaque mantle]

The only thing that i found twitter was for was OF ads - i uninstalled the app

maybe i was following tail instead of people?

[manic torrent]

.... and you had to pay for it

[opaque mantle]

/joke

[fluid ridge]

well true

they need to stay afloat somehow

[manic torrent]

twitter is fine. people who bitch about it usually have failed in some way

[austere jolt]

3080 worth ?

[vapid smelt]

its worth 759 new

[tender glade]

they dont sell your data though..?

[dreamy rose]

yeah they do, they also use Nitro to make money

[tender glade]

"‍No sale of personal information: The CCPA sets forth certain obligations for businesses that sell personal information. We do not sell the personal information of our users. We do share information as outlined in the “How we share your information” section above and you can make choices with respect to your information as outlined in this policy."

[fluid ridge]

they say they dont but in the same privacy policy they reserve the right to share your data with third party partners

maybe they arent selling it which makes me feel even worse

[tender glade]

they arent

they arent doing anything with your data

when you delete a message its deleted forever unless its reported.

even images are deleted forever

[fluid ridge]

I don't mean data in the text images and videos context, because obviously those are needed to be kept in order to serve them to other people

[candid magnet]

does it count as shared with third party if you use a cloud provider?

[fluid ridge]

i mean like telementary data, location data, advertisement data

emails, phone numbers

[tender glade]

they keep those for police

[dreamy rose]

https://youtu.be/uJ3X4h7Aojw based Video

[tender glade]

if people are doing illegal stuff on their platform they are legally bound to report it if found

[fluid ridge]

if you look into discords founder, jason citron he had a social messaging platform in the 2010s, which was found to have been illegally selling things like GPS and email data

[tender glade]

thats no current basis for anything

[fluid ridge]

i am saying there is a history of doing so, which makes it more logical to conclude they or their third party partners are misusing your information

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenFeint

[dawn crown]

If you install an older version of the Discord app you can still buy Nitro Classic for yourself or to gift. For now.

[fluid ridge]

id imagine discord is very very expensive to run

i doubt 20% of discord users have nitro

if a service is free, you are the product

[dawn crown]

I wouldn't mind the $3 basic replacing the $5 classic if it were gift-able.

But I am not spending $10 on random people just to be nice

[fluid ridge]

3 dollars is epic

why would you want a more expensive version of nitro

[finite cloud]

dont you already do that?

[dawn crown]

The more you pay the more features you get

[dawn crown]

No I gift classic

Full Nitro is too expensive to randomly hand out

[finite cloud]

O. think you gave me full once so thats my only experience

[manic torrent]

I pay for nitro because I subscribed and it's too hard to undo it

[dawn crown]

Maybe

I only provide nitro, full Nitro, to myself and my full time staff. 500 MB file limit with unlimited storage for files is so worth $100/year. It's way cheaper and easier than using Google Drive or Dropbox, etc.

[tender glade]

you gave me full nitro once and i felt so bad haha

[dawn crown]

We probably have about 6 TB of stuff hosted on Discord

I occasionally give people full Nitro

It's usually classic

[slate wagon]

i didn't know discord had a storage platform associated with nitro

[dreamy rose]

if anyone gave me any form of nitro i'd feel like ass.

[full fossil]

On the other hand, I'd happily take it 😂

[candid magnet]

is there a way to get the stuff off of discord in case of some unforseen circumstances

[dawn crown]

Discord doesn't market itself as a storage provider but there is no hard limit to how many files you can send per day, I've had artists send me +50 GB of stuff in one day

[finite cloud]

i sometimes wonder how discord especially can afford/has the server space to hold terabytes of data

[dawn crown]

Save the files locally

[candid magnet]

like it isn't 6tb of ephemerally important stuff is it?

[dreamy rose]

yeah well, now i have reason to believe you're not the kinda poor i am.

[slate wagon]

@finite cloud lol you aren't wrong that's a good question

[dreamy rose]

didn't linus mention this once?

[finite cloud]

dont remember

[dreamy rose]

pretty sure he did

[slate wagon]

no that was linking like 6 or so google drives together which didn't work

was basically attempting to exploit the free 5GB associated with google drive

[dawn crown]

Most of it is source files, sketches, etc. Strictly speaking I only need the final product, the artist has the source on their side if we need to make future changes, and losing sketches and WIP from finished work sucks because that stuff can be reused for behind the scenes later on, but none of it is mission critical should the CDN ever fail.

[dreamy rose]

get a child with a School google account if you want Explots

[candid magnet]

on the slowest access tier of AWS S3, a petabyte costs 1000$ per month

[slate wagon]

what O.o 50GB or somethin?

[candid magnet]

which I don't think is that expensive?

but is not usable for a chat application like discord

[dreamy rose]

normally unlimited. my school accounts drive is unlimited

[slate wagon]

lmao bet

[finite cloud]

my school gave me a 30 gig limit

[candid magnet]

the standard tier is about 20k/petabyte/month

[dawn crown]

I send myself stuff from work all the time over Discord, I only need it there to download once at home but knowing it's actually going to be there for as long as Discord exists is nice

[candid magnet]

and they can move it into lower storage tiers for cheaper storage

[slate wagon]

ya know, im happy with my 4TB hdd 2TB ssd and 1TB nvme in my desktop...

[candid magnet]

I wonder if you can make a bot that automates uploading and downloading from discord

while breaking large files down below any limits

[dawn crown]

I'm sure you could but that probably violates the ToS

[slate wagon]

bah, who reads ToS?

[finite cloud]

well, i dont think a petabyte is even enough considering they keep everything. and now with the 500mb limit, theres gigs of just images and files going around. plus the probably over a million people with years of chats saved on their servers

[slate wagon]

true

[candid magnet]

a petabyte is just a large unit I chose for an example

[slate wagon]

22TB hard drives do exist...
https://www.simplynas.com/products/wd-wuh722222ale6l4-ultrastar-dc-hc570-22tb-7-2k-sata-6gbps?variant=39917849083966

[finite cloud]

indeed. they are expensive tho

[slate wagon]

only need like 46 of em to get 1PB

only $545 😂 not bad imo since a 4TB costed me ~$160

[finite cloud]

thats $23k give or take

[slate wagon]

that's still not a lot compared to other storage alternatives

[candid magnet]

about the cost of standard cloud storage surprisingly

well

[slate wagon]

^

[candid magnet]

standard cloud storage for a month lol

but it would be much more secure than 46 drives

[slate wagon]

yeah because this isn't accounting for redundancy

[candid magnet]

there's also the computer you'd have to put it in

[slate wagon]

shhhh we don't talk specifics 😂

just use a whole bunch of PCIe cards 😂

[manic torrent]

.... and system administration

cooling

[candid magnet]

paying a for a person to keep an eye on and maintain the drives

[manic torrent]

This is why it doesn't make sense to run your own stuff unless you are at the very least big, if not huge

[candid magnet]

not to mention allowing for consistent access from europe, asia, and america

[manic torrent]

(I've worked in IT infrastructure for 20 years)

[finite cloud]

so they're either paying someone to host all this or they have a very impressive data center

[candid magnet]

almost definitely large cloud provider

[wispy marsh]

Hmm

I have found the thing I need to clean up my system on a daily basis

[slate wagon]

(i work at a small server hosting place- nocix & wholesaleinternet)

[wispy marsh]

set-executionpolicy -scope process bypass ;; winget upgrade --all ;; cleanmgr /sagerun:1 ;; sfc /scannow;; dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth;; set-executionpolicy -scope process restricted

[finite cloud]

what does that do

[candid magnet]

https://www.cloudflare.com/case-studies/discord/ at least 6 yr old source says google cloud

[slate wagon]

ewwww windows command line

[wispy marsh]

...

[wispy marsh]

sudo rm -rf /

[slate wagon]

😂

[wispy marsh]

Your system is clean now

[slate wagon]

it was far easier for me to learn linux commands vs still trying to grasp how windows commands are ran

ipconfig just doesn't feel as nice as ip link // ip route etc.

[candid magnet]

I know how to use linux commands better but I spend more time on a windows computer

[slate wagon]

well ipconfig is more like ip a...

[slate wagon]

same boat, only reason i run windows here at work is because it's just more natural feeling going from window to window for me

[manic torrent]

windows command line is awful. power shell makes me want to self terminate

[slate wagon]

man i was messing with hyper-v at home on my desktop to how a minecraft server for my niece... proxmox is soooooo much nicer and was doing something a while ago for changing from windows 11 home to pro / enterprise with slmgr commands and it was just painful

[tender glade]

So howve you been sugar?

[manic torrent]

my new job is wayyyyy more windows but it is also wayyyyy less stress and more chill

it's basically like taking a hiatus. for my mental health

[slate wagon]

oh we're unmanaged but going through getting our colocation setup and linking the 2 buildings, moving the tech stations around so slightly annoying right now at work but super manageable so mental health for me at least is pretty good

by colocation setup i mean finishing touches here n there we already have 1 pod up and running

[pliant karma]

Oh hey sugar wassup

[misty scarab]

It's down to 1c rn, I wish it would go fown further

It's not cold enough

[pliant karma]

Lol 16c where I’m at still not cold enough. Typical panda in short sleeve and jeans

I also have my ac on

[slate wagon]

... 50f

imperial system ftw

[pliant karma]

Technically I should be using that I just choose not too to an extent

[slate wagon]

lol i only understand celcius when it comes to touching heatsinks

i've learned not to touch our dual E5 heatsinks.... 80c doesn't feel nice on the hands...

[pliant karma]

lol when you die in Phasmophobia, you become the eyes and ears for the team when ghost starts hunting/evidence

[slate wagon]

sadly the chassis fans don't spin faster which is why they're so hot, also they're a pull config instead of a push so 1 CPU runs 10c hotter... just horrible planning on super micros part

[candid magnet]

Does a 10gig network need a 10gig router to achieve 10gig performance between computers or does a 10gig switch work with a 2.5/1gig router somewhere on the network?

[graceful burrow]

your network speed will be limited by your weakest link

if you hook a 10 gig network up toa 2.5gig switch/router, you're only getting 2.5

[slate wagon]

yep and you'll most likely need a 10gig network card attached to the pc / server as most don't come with native support for that (mainly talking pc on that last part)

[sonic spruce]

Does anyone know a device that can transmit audio from the tv output to my headphones?

[slate wagon]

...

[candid magnet]

like the router, and pc's are all connected to the 10gig switch

[dreamy rose]

wdym 16 Cores are plenty?

[candid magnet]

but the router is only 2.5gig

[sonic spruce]

Does anyone know a transmitter or not?

[zenith burrow]

Hi everyone. I am currently in a pickle. I have the opportunity to get an efga ftw ultra 3090ti for 1300€ or a 3080ti FE for 1100€. I am afraid that I'm biased towards the 3090ti because of the rather large discount but I wanted to know your opinions. I play on my 4k tv occasionally but I mostly play on 1440p even though i plan on upgrading my display to a 21:9. I live in Italy and prices are higher than US' if that matters

[candid magnet]

pc's are all 10gig capable

[zenith burrow]

Sorry if this is not the right channel to ask in

[slate wagon]

you can try this...
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Portable-Rechargeable/dp/B083J98ZFX/ref=asc_df_B083J98ZFX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416694489735&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13972964905859269683&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023228&hvtargid=pla-897788346448&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94693386915&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416694489735&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13972964905859269683&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023228&hvtargid=pla-897788346448

[candid magnet]

I'm gonna put a diagram in tech chat

[dreamy rose]

get the 3090Ti, no regrets going with more power

[manic torrent]

evga cards >>>>>>>>>>

[sonic spruce]

That’s a transmitter and receiver or the headphones got to be Bluetooth also?

[slate wagon]

if you have enough ports on the router just put all of the pcs on it, or get a 10Gb/s switch

[dreamy rose]

thats exactly what i feckin told em before. get a Bluetooth DAC

[sonic spruce]

What you talking about

Your ideas were bad and didn’t work

[manic torrent]

I'm shocked

[sonic spruce]

Wtf is a Bluetooth dac anyways?

[slate wagon]

that device just takes aux input and sends it out as a bluetooth signal so you will need bluetooth compatible headphones

literally what i posted a few ago...

[sonic spruce]

I see

[slate wagon]

we aren't talking Direct Attach Cables ya know

[sonic spruce]

You got a cheaper one?

[slate wagon]

ooph

[sonic spruce]

I got a bt aux receiver if that counts?

[slate wagon]

let me google that for you is blocked by warship

[candid magnet]

Like with the 10g switch, will the LAN be slowed by the router only supporting 2.5g? (diagram in tech-chat-1)

[sonic spruce]

Dm the link you tried sending it

[slate wagon]

sent

[dreamy rose]

something like the Fiio BTR5. its bluetooth then you plug your headphones into it to listen

[sonic spruce]

You sure?

[zenith burrow]

The only real doubt is about the power draw, I could undervolt it a bit but then the performance would take a hit if I want to tame its consumption. Is 100w worth it for the performance advantage the 90ti has over the other, in your opinion?

[slate wagon]

check your message requests...

[sonic spruce]

Sure let me just rob a bank so I can afford it first

[dreamy rose]

i never said to get it i said to look for something like it

[sonic spruce]

I just send you a friend request so you can dm me

[slate wagon]

the message delivered so not accepting.

[pearl blaze]

so where do i buy this $1 PC?

[sonic spruce]

I found one on eBay

[slate wagon]

https://www.amazon.com/PDP-Afterglow-Wireless-Headset-Xbox-One/dp/B016K122XU

[sonic spruce]

You look around the side walk and try to find one

[slate wagon]

or just go with something like this that has a usb transmitter

[sonic spruce]

Found a transmitter for 9 usd

[slate wagon]

lol good luck

[pearl blaze]

I guess none of you watched the live stream which i fell asleep to last night

or you want less competition

[dreamy rose]

i had a wired Xbox controller from those guys. it was cool untill the wire went cack and stopped working completely

[sonic spruce]

@slate wagon like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124884996680?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cQ3PsLOhTpu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=-ie92xqqthi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[queen heath]

Question does anyone know how to get an evga card to work through asus arua?

[manic torrent]

signalrgb

[dawn crown]

Good! I'mma start building my Kiosk project with my PBX and Windows XP machine in the garage next month.

[dreamy rose]

i just wanna play NFS Hot Pursuit without my FPS tanking the Controls.

[manic torrent]

maybe get a computer

[dreamy rose]

would be doable if the family didn't struggle to eat half the time

[west shoal]

I miss old tech support channel ☹️

[full fossil]

Just get pentium G4560 + 1050Ti

[dreamy rose]

yeah wtf is with this new fake ass forum BS?

[dreamy rose]

i don't do Desktop. plus the 1050 cards are pretty done at this point.

[west shoal]

I used to get replied faster with the old one

[full fossil]

G4560 + GT 730/710

[full fossil]

Well atleast this is more organised

[dreamy rose]

i don't do Desktop Computers. the 1050 cards are obsolete (almost just gotta wait for AMD to release new Integrated Graphics)

[full fossil]

Right I do see iGPUs in AMD to use faster ram to improve performance.

Did we really need that GDDR6? Does GDDR5 does it even today?

[dawn crown]

When I finish my new XP build I will share it btw

[dreamy rose]

DDR5 isn't even a bottleneck for iGPUs yet

basic sticks gonna do just fine

[full fossil]

RAM is getting expensive someone should try soldering the older GDDR5 VRAM on some 3060 if pins match

[dreamy rose]

why?

[full fossil]

So we can learn the greed of nvidia slamming unnecessary expensive memory, making cards expensive.

[dreamy rose]

let them be greedy, it'll be better when AMD finally bites their ass off and they gotta Panic to make their products look Reasonably priced.

after all thats what Competition is about

[full fossil]

IDK, I don't even care performance per watt. I care performance/$. Where all the graphics card stands?

[dreamy rose]

i never said anything about Performance Per Watt, i said general Competition

[full fossil]

well where is this competition leading? for 1200$ price people, not for <800$

[dreamy rose]

nvidia is greedy but you can't speak for AMD yet

[full fossil]

Why not? I see PS5, <600$, I can expect a <800$

[dreamy rose]

yes there will be cards under 800, but they wont charge 1600 like Nvidia does for their 7950XT.

[full fossil]

I mean whole PCs price point not GPUs

Also we still know quad core CPUs still OP for gamin/multitasking, 3300X was last thing I know from AMD

I like to see a 4-Core every time, even if it some mobile CPU mounted on substrates.

[dreamy rose]

yeah well expecting a console experience from a PC in the Similar price range is kinda just Stupid. they are purpose built for gaming unlike a PC so they are obviously gonna be cheaper and faster.

[full fossil]

intel do Pentium but they are out of price points by now.

[full fossil]

By todays standards and future gamin growths an 700-800$ PC should survive 1080p +60hz for atleast 2 years.

Cn see current trend with this hardwares?

[dreamy rose]

well yeah gaming with a Budget is gonna get better with AMD's Integrated Graphics but still. not a good idea to have going into PC Gaming now

and you do have to remember consoles have moved well into 4K now.

[full fossil]

Well can I run windows in consoles? since I like to do other stuff like light streaming?

don't tell me linux, that is way cursed by now.

[dreamy rose]

i fail to see how this relates to the point of gaming being more intensive.

[manic torrent]

Hahahhahahahhahahaha

[manic torrent]

gee I don't know

[sonic spruce]

Which one?

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GT-1030/2187vsm283726

[tired glade]

Oh, my, userbenchmarks

https://youtu.be/tROAG-jPNrs

750 ti

[torpid rock]

I made this as a joke about $1200+ gpu In a phone but it's to funny not to share

https://i.imgur.com/mLVH7yj.jpg

[autumn ferry]

Someone should ask them what's going on with Mac address on today's wan show

[wind pulsar]

The 12100 and 12300 both have 4 cores and beat most 9th gen CPUs and the 10 and 11400F, lol

[vale cairn]

just found out that youtube stream dashboard doesnt support ms edge vertical tabs

you had to minimize those tabs in order to be able to reach edit button.

[dreamy rose]

who the fuck uses vertical tabs?

[vale cairn]

whoever has more than enough tabs to open

[livid belfry]

All i have to say Linus talking about adhd in the latest roll the dice video was awesome

stayed up watched the whole thing way past sleep time curse you yesterdays extreme close up video

dont ask what that is if you know of the extreme closeup video or been through said medical procedure ++

not guess

[wind pulsar]

I do

[dreamy rose]

Why

[wind pulsar]

Because the horizontal ones aren't with as much information, often just the website name

[dreamy rose]

what more info does it need to display?

[wind pulsar]

What the page has included, since I use a lot of FF14 mods, I often have a lot of pages open lmao

[neon mesa]

be trying to sell my 1050ti so i can get an RX 6600 (not an offer for legal reasons. incase mods)

it be hard

this GPU is meh slow now

time really flies

[dreamy rose]

there is nothing legally stopping you from Advertising your sale here, but it is against the server rules, so don't

[neon mesa]

exactly why the disclaimer

and "for legal reasons" is not literally for legal reasons

[wind pulsar]

It's totally fine to say 'legal reasons' for rules

[dreamy rose]

normally what the name says but OK.

[dreamy rose]

people are dumb and might think it is genuinely illegal to do it.

[neon mesa]

selling this piece of shit is the final step to getting an actually decent gaming experience

[dreamy rose]

people genuinely have a Horrible undstanding of law you know

[wind pulsar]

You sure about that?

[neon mesa]

edge tab preview supremacy

[dreamy rose]

i never said it didn't apply to rules i just said people wouldn't take it into that context.

[wind pulsar]

I never said you did?

[wind pulsar]

Horizontal

Vertical

Although I had to censor it because the site shares quite a lot of NSFW mods. x')

[dreamy rose]

i fail to see how they are any different except for the Vertical bar looking A wrong and B pointless

[wind pulsar]

Horizontal only includes the logo, vertical displays everything

[dreamy rose]

all i'm seeing in he Vertical bars are logos.

[neon mesa]

You won't need vertical if you're not a maniac with 20 tabs /j

[dreamy rose]

oh right i see whats going on here

[wind pulsar]

Because I censored it bozo, can't you read the literal message right below it?

[dreamy rose]

yeah that's a total waste of screen space,

[wind pulsar]

My god, you're more stubborn than Eliott

[neon mesa]

I never keep more than 3 tabs

If there comes a time when many tabs are needed i just use another window

[dreamy rose]

What? i would hate having 33% of my screen taken up by Text.

Especially if i'm trying to watch youtube

[wind pulsar]

It's not always taken up though

[full fossil]

197 tabs?

[dreamy rose]

Still using an extra Click to get to em.

[wind pulsar]

No, I just get a lot of messages for reasons you don't need to know

[full fossil]

okay? a bit rude tbh..

[wind pulsar]

That's still far better than clicking several times looking for a tab I need

[dreamy rose]

you can stop that by not having 50 unessasary tabs open.

[wind pulsar]

That's not for you to decide if these tabs are unnecessary or not

These new tabs are just an example, but I do have these many tabs open from time to time

[neon mesa]

i question how you send embed without floatplane

[wind pulsar]

You don't need floatplante or twitch sub to embed

[wind pulsar]

Nitro Booster works as well

[neon mesa]

didn't work few months ago, guess they changed it

lemme just do something rq

now i can embed

[wind pulsar]

Lmao

[dreamy rose]

pretty sure 50+ Final Fantasy mods are extremely unessasary tabs.

[wind pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[neon mesa]

you'd be surprised when you need a lot of mods

i'm the type of person to only have 3 tabs at a time at best
but when i'm let's say stuffing GTA 5 with mods it gets hectic real quick

though in my case, i'm also limited by CPU for tab spamming

[dreamy rose]

ok so how much RAM is your browser wasting?

[slate wing]

I wouldn't definitely call one better due to their wildly different behavior.

It seems QSV blocks more then NVENC does at low bitrate, however this can translate to better high fidelity performance.

[wind pulsar]

Do I look like someone that gives a fuck about that?

[dreamy rose]

Arc does Encoding stuff better than Radeon but Arc sucks for gaming so. they have their places in harmony.

[neon mesa]

my 2200G dies before my ram can get filled from tabs

[wind pulsar]

The system I currently use will probably die earlier from playing Pixelmon instead of 50 tabs, lol

[neon mesa]

if only selling is as easy as buying this shit smh smh

[wind pulsar]

[slate wing]

We've not seen RDNA 3 encoder yet but yes historically they have the worse HW encoder.

ARC isnt actually bad for gaming... at all really. The issue is the lack of DX9-11 drivers.... which you can just use DXVK.

[dreamy rose]

someone will bite.

[neon mesa]

Arc is good for DX12 gaming

[slate wing]

Tldr it's a Windows issue lul

[neon mesa]

which will be less of an issue going to the future

[slate wing]

As well as vulkan and opengl.

[neon mesa]

let's be real, who actually uses opengl for AAA game

[slate wing]

Minecraft uses opengl.

[wind pulsar]

Since when is Minecraft a AAA game

[dreamy rose]

which means it still Sucks for gaming. its use is gonna be for Radeon owners to get Good Editing and Streaming Ability mainly.

[neon mesa]

at that point get nvidia

Radeon + Arc is gonna be more expensive

[dreamy rose]

Since it came to consoles i guess.

[dreamy rose]

not if you already own a Radeon.

[slate wing]

It does not suck for gaming literally all you have to do is either place a few files in your games directory in Windows or just use Linux.

[wind pulsar]

Probably rather since Microsoft bought Mojang? Since before that some bearded guy made this game in sonewhat of a basement

[dreamy rose]

isn't the linux support all fucked up?

[slate wing]

It's not a AAA but it's a good example of why opengl performance is still important

[full fossil]

microsoft is trying to make it a AAA game. now

[neon mesa]

minecraft is unoptimized af

you literally need mod renderer to fix it

[slate wing]

Linux support is better then Windows. Also Linus was wrong about them only supporting Linux 6+. Intel already submitted patched for older versions of Linux when they posted that fucking video.

[dreamy rose]

wdym they have the Minecoins and the Crossplay and the Skin shop.

[slate wing]

Royal fuck up on of the LTT team.

[neon mesa]

oh you mean bedrock

[wind pulsar]

To be fair, some videos take literal weeks to make, so..

[neon mesa]

unoptimized is a java thing

[dreamy rose]

they are the same shit really.

[neon mesa]

same on the front-end

[wind pulsar]

Not.. really

[neon mesa]

the back-end is literally an entirely different language

[wind pulsar]

Bedrock is way better from an optimization standpoint, lol

[slate wing]

I'm not sure what GC java uses but it somehow manages to be one of the worse despite being one of the oldest and mature lanagues.

[neon mesa]

C++ is just superior

[slate wing]

C++ has to many fucking features for me. The spec itself is like 1.6k pages

[night heron]

c++

grown man coding language

[dreamy rose]

one lets you play with people on different platforms and has a Store to waste money in while the other lets you play with people on different OSes.

[slate wing]

I'll just keep using c in other languages thanks.

[neon mesa]

servers nowadays have java bedrock crossplay so it doesn't even matter

[night heron]

i’m just not going to use bedrock

java is minecraft to me

[neon mesa]

bedrock is the inferior one at this case from gameplay standpoint

the UI is ass with microtransaction shoved on it

[slate wing]

I'll just play a better game like terraria

[neon mesa]

but yes bedrock is faster in perf

[dreamy rose]

thats what you're stuck with as a console gamer.

[dreamy rose]

2d minecraft

[neon mesa]

i play java because chad

[slate wing]

[dreamy rose]

ngl i havent had my Xbox One in quite a while and if i did and it was possible i would havr just chucked linux on it and used it as a PC.

[neon mesa]

waiting for AMD to drop RDNA 3 to finally make a console killer to shut everyone up

[slate wing]

Oh also the ARC GPUs have better video then rtx 4k iirc. If you wanna do 8k60 get a arc gpu as well as a 4090 lol.

[dreamy rose]

i'm waiting for the iGPUs.

[slate wing]

PC is already better then console. It's almost like people keep forgetting games cost twice as much on console and you have to pay for online.

[slate wing]

You ain't getting one for a while.

[neon mesa]

they never see that

i want to see equivalent priced pc to finally beat a ps5

[night heron]

the consoles were absolutely amazing unbeatable value on release

[dreamy rose]

yeah no shit. i'm waiting for Mobile parts because i need a laptop. plus AMD rules the laptop space anyway

[night heron]

like it was just not possible to match their value ever whatsoever

[slate wing]

Not really, especially if you are into VR as they won't be supporting the gen1 headsets on the PS5.

[neon mesa]

console value becomes shit at their mid-lifecycle

console cycle last like 7 years?

[night heron]

a decade sometimes

[dreamy rose]

now Crypto mining is dead and Arc is here i see noobies picking it up

[night heron]

but i think like 7 years from the one to the series

[neon mesa]

3-4 years after launch console killers are already possible

[night heron]

4 years is a long time for computer hardware so that’s not surprising

[neon mesa]

tho even at launch it might be possible if gpu shortage didn't fuck shit up

[night heron]

that’s 4 generations of processors and two generations of gpus AFTER the consoles release

[night heron]

even at msrp it wasn’t even close to possible

[neon mesa]

2 years

[night heron]

the latest consoles were absolutely tremendous value at release

[neon mesa]

one gen of GPU, then it's possible

without the shortage

[dreamy rose]

i'm glad it happened. finally AMD has the chance to kick the shit out of Nvidia's greedy ass.

[neon mesa]

welll tbf they sell consoles at a lost iirc

[slate wing]

They can't that's illegal in the us.

[neon mesa]

they rip you off with 70$ games and paid online

[dreamy rose]

1600 for a GPU get that shit out of my face

[night heron]

they probably break even

[neon mesa]

ps has always sold at some lost, literally every generation

with ps3 being one of the severe ones

[night heron]

3700x, rx 5700xt, 1tb 4.0 nvme, 16gb of gddr6 for ram and vram, $500 in 2020

you just could not match a series X in value

[neon mesa]

now you can

[night heron]

maybe, i haven’t tried

[neon mesa]

RX 6600 only like 200 bucks

[night heron]

but keep in mind console games are much more well optimized so a superior desktop gpu can very easily give you an inferior experience

[dreamy rose]

wheres the system wide VRAM though.

[night heron]

you’re not playing at 4k60 with a 5700xt but on a console it’s fine

[slate wing]

Usually they are lower quality instead of "optimized".

[night heron]

both

they use a mixture of settings that fits well but the games are also just more optimized dramatically

[slate wing]

Inb4 -march=xbox

[neon mesa]

the "optimization" on console came with compromises

and people really forgot the value of being able to do more than game

[night heron]

you do realize not everyone is a pc enthusiast right

[neon mesa]

because you need a laptop/desktop anyway

[night heron]

99% of people don’t even know what a gpu is and never open the settings menu on their products

[neon mesa]

if you see a kid with an xbox they probably also got a chromebook

[slate wing]

It made fucking headlines when one game was released with the bare minimum support of x86-64-v2. I wish game devs would grow balls and build with v3 already.

[night heron]

and consoles are designed to let them game, they’re not supposed to replace computers

the console hate bandwagon is just cringe

[neon mesa]

they're good value until you get ripped off in the game store

[dreamy rose]

good thing is that good integrated Graphics isn't gonna be that rare anymore with Mendocino. Chromebooks will get them too.

just need to pull out the Intel bias, this might do it.

[neon mesa]

the point is, why an xbox plus a shit laptop
when you can have one good laptop

[slate wing]

Or a good server and a thin client laptop.

[neon mesa]

desktop works but you want the portability of the shit laptop

[dreamy rose]

exactly there is no point

[neon mesa]

doesn't work without proper network infrastructure and good isp

you can't game on them without those

god forbid rhythm games

[slate wing]

Osu runs on a potato.

[neon mesa]

the delay

[dreamy rose]

yeah good luck without an LTE laptop, or if you live in Australia

Fuck me, the mobile data here. could go on for ages.

[slate wing]

Y'all get out a lot more then me apparently.

Nor do I care to be locked down by a laptop at all.

[dreamy rose]

only reason i have to go out is school.

[neon mesa]

i have a shit pc and a shit laptop

i'd want one good laptop but that kills upgradability

one good desktop, well... i need laptop for school

[dreamy rose]

i just have a Shit laptop that throws a Hissyfit if it moves a MM

[neon mesa]

diy remote desktop gaming on a budget is only possible at a time where isp isn't shit and doesn't give shit stock-router

basically never

[dreamy rose]

yeah a no go in Australia then

i tried the beta for GeForce NOW in australia. based on that its unplayable

[neon mesa]

even if you somehow got good one
it's never gonna be good enough like direct for competitive and rhythm

you'll be dogshit in comp and rhythm games are unplayable

you can't just remove processing delay and the speed of light being the limit

[dreamy rose]

literally took a whole second for my charicter to move in portal 2

i tried war thunder aswell.

only got 2 kills out of luck

[slate wing]

Here is some benchmarks on Linux, good price to performance.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-a750-a770-arc-linux/3

[dreamy rose]

at least its cheap. yeah so much for high end intel graphics.

[tired glade]

How much their 6600xt was?

[dreamy rose]

wait how does the 750 compare to the 6400?

[tired glade]

6400 should be way lower

Oh,their 6600xt is 329

[slate wing]

The 6400 is a meme of a gpu. You can get the 380 for 130 usd with proper pcie3 support and a better media engine

[tired glade]

1630 in same category

[dreamy rose]

not even as good as the Mobile Radeon parts

[slate wing]

Damn even the 6600xt has 2x the performance of a rx580 in fp64

[tired glade]

Yes,rdna2 and such

[slate wing]

Oh lmao RDNA2 destroys ampere in fp64.

[dreamy rose]

i wonder if the spacing between the 610M and 660M iGPU leaves more room for more stuff in the middle

[slate wing]

200gflops on the 3060 vs 660 on the 6600xt.

[dreamy rose]

they are meaningless though

[slate wing]

They are pretty fucking indicative of performance for compute

Especially when it's that bad

[tired glade]

Vega still kicking in that department

[dreamy rose]

i mean yes higher = better but nobody uses Flops

[tired glade]

Just, you know, cuda is everywhere

[slate wing]

Even Lovelace keep ups amperes 1:64 ratio for fp64.

[slate wing]

There are no bother bottlenecks for fp64 so we can use theoretical max. For context a 3060 fp32 performance is above 10tflops.

[mighty grotto]

geforce is artifically FP64-capped more heavily than radeon, big news

[tired glade]

AMD making GPUs faster in math, breaking news

[slate wing]

To be fair vega was a compute arch rebranded for gamers.