public-chat

[vapid smelt]

not many

[scenic lily]

strange

[hearty spear]

I played both before you were born lolol

Very few do

[manic torrent]

it's a bit more complex than that, plus computers can do more than one thing at a time 🙂

[scenic lily]

not in light mode so

[wind pulsar]

BeamNG.Drive is so CPU bound it will genuinely kiss you for having more cores, it's great

[full fossil]

I was leaning towards the i7 since its base clocks are in general higher than the i9 so my understanding is that it would be better for applications that primarily depend on core frequency

[haughty mango]

anybody know a good way to download youtube videos without premium or sketchy websites?

[manic torrent]

streamdeck plus signalrgb plus discord, plus a bunch of browser windows/tabs

[hearty spear]

Sure, but most engines have a thread limit

[full fossil]

Yeah but trying to justify the need for the extra cores, or if the i7 would be the better choice for my workload.

[wind pulsar]

Sweetie, do me a favor, go into your settings and press around 5 to 10 times on the 'dark mode' button

[manic torrent]

there's several apps

[dreamy rose]

there's many things many people (including myself) played that existed before i was born.

[scenic lily]

I know of the AMOLED dark mode, I used it for a while but I don't care for it

[full fossil]

Like I do a lot of CAD modeling, and i know those CAD softwares primarily care about core frequency vs extra cores.

[manic torrent]

it probably is

[full fossil]

SInce they dont really use the extra cores.

[wind pulsar]

Blasphemy

[manic torrent]

indeed.

[graceful jackal]

@hearty spear nothing in the sleep menu

[full fossil]

I also noticed that the i9 boosts to 5.8 ghz while the i7 boosts to 5.5-5.6ghz

[manic torrent]

also nobody says 'i7' - that's just naming garbage that isn't meaningful

[scenic lily]

there's a amoled mode for PC, lemme find it

[graceful jackal]

powercfg /a said that S3 sleep state is not supported by the system firm ware

[dreamy rose]

there is?

[scenic lily]

https://discord.com/__development/link?s=Z7XEywE8rsgTvI0MR9P4OknzH4LtPi9j9%2Br8Hwzrohg%3D.eyJ0YXJnZXRCdWlsZE92ZXJyaWRlIjp7ImRpc2NvcmRfd2ViIjp7InR5cGUiOiJicmFuY2giLCJpZCI6ImFubmllL2RhcmsifX0sInJlbGVhc2VDaGFubmVsIjpudWxsLCJ2YWxpZEZvclVzZXJJZHMiOltdLCJhbGxvd0xvZ2dlZE91dCI6ZmFsc2UsImV4cGlyZXNBdCI6IlN1biwgMjggSmFuIDIwMjQgMDE6NTU6MDcgR01UIn0%3D

[haughty mango]

u know any names?

[hearty spear]

Lots of people do! And it's useless!

[full fossil]

i7 and i9 in the context of the 13th gen CPUs

im stuck between the i9 vs th eu7

[manic torrent]

nobody in the tech world

[full fossil]

for CAD workloads, mild gaming.

[manic torrent]

yes, use the cpu names, 12600 vs 12900

[wind pulsar]

If you ask yourself if you need the i9, you don't need the i9

[manic torrent]

uhhh 13 even

[full fossil]

13700 vs 13900 in my case

[wind pulsar]

If you need the i9, you know that you need the i9

[full fossil]

its more a question of whether it'll actually benefit from the extra cores.

[wind pulsar]

Or you're an idiot that just wants the i9

[manic torrent]

also basically nobody needs the i9

[dreamy rose]

hmm. seems to not work on Web client. oh well

[full fossil]

does the i9 consistently clock higher than the i7?

[vapid smelt]

no

[scenic lily]

yeah as far as I know build overrides only work on the desktop app

[manic torrent]

Also it's a furnace

[indigo remnant]

does linus acctually have discord

[vapid smelt]

yes

[full fossil]

ill have a custom loop so heat isnt really a concern thankfully.

[dreamy rose]

hes just not here

[indigo remnant]

why

[indigo remnant]

its a bit mean

[dreamy rose]

harassment iirc.

[full fossil]

i havent made a build since skylake so whichever CPU I go with i want to make sure im actually using what im paying for

[dreamy rose]

just a flood of messages and pings

[lilac sage]

build since skylake was 2020

:P

[dreamy rose]

i7 i9 who gives a shit. R7 and R9 are cooler products.

[full fossil]

does anyone here have an i9 and actually use it for the workload its rated for?

[velvet marsh]

I have a cpu faster than an i9 and do

[full fossil]

and is the i9 a better CPU over the i7 in all aspects? (13700k vs 13900k)

[full fossil]

What type of work if you dont mind me asking?

[velvet marsh]

raw video editing

[full fossil]

makes sense.

[dreamy rose]

this is ltt server everyone does

[scenic lily]

me over here with an i5-6500

[dreamy rose]

me with the i5 2450M

[scenic lily]

ooooooof

[ebon otter]

Is the 4090 4x8pin to 12pin adapter bad?

[dreamy rose]

"4090" and "Cable" don't go together.

[full fossil]

so overarchingly, the i9 is a better chip than the i7 in all respects?

[glacial basin]

too vague of a statement

you can modify it to say like i9-13900K and i7-950

[ebon otter]

A 13700 is way better than a 9900

[glacial basin]

or i9-7900x and i7-13700K

[full fossil]

13900k vs 13700k

[ebon otter]

I9 > i7

[cyan vapor]

define better, start from that

usually it comes to, better for what

[full fossil]

i know the higher core counts usually come at the cost of some frequency

When you have the perfect pc build but you have no electricity

base clock for the i7 vs i9: 3.40 GHz 3.00 GHz

from the base clock perspective will the i9 perform slower with an application that is driven by frequency rather than core count?

[glacial basin]

"in all respects/aspects"

[cyan vapor]

the base clocks are essentially meaningless since the cores will boost for as long as necessary

[full fossil]

gottcha so assuming thermal throttling isnt in effect itll be boosting?

[cyan vapor]

yep

[full fossil]

gottcha so i9 is the choice then

since it boosts to 5.8ghz vs the 5.4ghz of the i7

[cyan vapor]

with the i9, like you said, more cores means less thermal headroom if they're all in use, but for let's say 4 P cores, they'll both boost similarly

get some beefy cooling to go with it so you can use it at max boost, if that's your goal

[manic torrent]

ehhhhh it will also boost for a while then throttle down

depending on workload, yadda yadda

[full fossil]

yeah ill be doing a decked out custom loop so cooling shouldnt be a concern.

[manic torrent]

custom loop is the only way to go!

[full fossil]

but yeah that scenario is accurate to what im asking about

4P cores will they boost and clock similarly.

[manic torrent]

yes. excellent BFYB

[full fossil]

since i imagine most of the work i do will be in that range

i was just concerned about the base clock being low on the i9 and potentially not being as strong as the i7

since most of the time i wont be using the i9s full potential, just under specific circumstances.

[manic torrent]

that's more or less irrelevant

[full fossil]

has the water cooling game changed much in terms of pumps?

seems like the D5s are still the defacto.

[manic torrent]

yeah same/same.

I went with a d5, 2x360 rads, 9 120 fans, and a bunch of other crap and RGB

[full fossil]

my current skylake has a thick 360, i have a spare thick 480 from a build from years ago.

thinking about going for a 480 + 360 looped together

go complete overkill on everything.

[vapid smelt]

with todays 600watt builds it might not be overkill

[velvet marsh]

My dual 360 is barely enough for my TR and 3090

[full fossil]

yeah seems like the power game has changed.

good excuse for me to go all out

https://www.modsrigs.com/UploadImages/741968/28003/49bb5a900594.jpg

old behemoth from 2011

[velvet marsh]

oh mods rigs, miss that site

[full fossil]

see im stuck, because i have a crazy budget to work with this time around

i really want to make a decked out ITX build or microATX

but with the case offerings its gonna be tough to stuff thick rads without going for an external amount

[wraith sonnet]

better than my rig

[cyan vapor]

That does sound way too cheap

Ryder 5 eh, nice

I'd stay away from that

[full fossil]

damn there really arent too many microATX boards out there for z790

[wraith sonnet]

MATX is more often used for B chipsets

[full fossil]

might go the other end of the extreme scale and go for a 1000D

[cyan vapor]

The 6600 XT alone is like $350, so help me understand why someone would sell their whole pc for less than half the value of one component.

[wraith sonnet]

also this platform is BRAND new

[full fossil]

pay homage to my original 750D

[full fossil]

yeah i figure the offerings wont be that robust this early in

[vapid smelt]

290 now

[full fossil]

there is just something so appealing having a beast of a PC in a small form factor

[cyan vapor]

Where do colleges start in November..

[vapid smelt]

why would a college student not a need a pc?>

[wraith sonnet]

student moving across country to start during winter semester?

[vapid smelt]

why go out of state for college that just cost more

[wraith sonnet]

idk

[sonic spruce]

What’s the cheapest 2.5 ssd with dram from a good brand?
240 gbs or higher

[vapid smelt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094442NL5 fit all the big boy radiators

[supple topaz]

Price kind of depends if you want pcie 3 or pcie 4

Oh you said 2.5 lmao… sorry derp moment

[vapid smelt]

Crucial MX500

[full fossil]

480 up front and then a 360 up top.

that would be my plan

[vapid smelt]

would be supported

[full fossil]

i noticed other brands offering water cooling pumps, are most just rebrands or is there a pump that sets itself apart from the competition?

[sonic spruce]

Not nvme

[sonic spruce]

How much?

[vapid smelt]

idk

[sonic spruce]

That’s $40

[manic torrent]

haha, fuck yeah. got my laptop dock all plugged into my reciever, so now it can work with my laptop/work setup, my desktop, or the nest hub via bluetooth.

I have a home assistant automation that kicks in when the hub is being cast to that changes the input of the stereo, and changes it back when it is done

[sonic spruce]

Does PNY CS900 have dram?

[vapid smelt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4

https://imgur.com/NCbpauj

[full fossil]

Fans for case are so confusing

its gonna be exhaust or cooler

[vapid smelt]

person above me is cringe

[full fossil]

proof 🤨

[quasi root]

does this temperature seem alright to you guys? https://i.imgur.com/TTWW3jm.png

[vapid smelt]

uses the 💀 emote

[full fossil]

Ip tracker 🤨

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

1 blocked message

[quasi root]

RTX 3080 hotspot temp max 100C. is this too high?

[glacial basin]

sauce?

[full fossil]

@vapid smelt the fast starts soon

[hearty spear]

absolutely yes

[quasi root]

gpu only goes to 76 max, but hot spot is 100

[full fossil]

high tier DDR4 RAM vs mid tier DDR5 ram? thoughts?

[vapid smelt]

ddr5 better

[full fossil]

its that much more considerable?

[hearty spear]

depends on what you're doing, but for most gaming, it's not that big a difference

But for future use: DDR4 is a dead end

[quasi root]

do you know where the hot spot is?

[full fossil]

siracha

i dont mind paying extra for the ddr5, just wanted to know if it was actually a considerable jump.

getting a 64 gb package so its $220 vs $550 for the ddr5

this is fixing to be a 3k-4k build

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Z7G3C/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-5600-cl30-memory-f5-5600j3036d32gx2-tz5rk 400

[hearty spear]

unless this build is literally making you money, you're probably spending a fair bit you don't need to

[full fossil]

it inadvertently does

[lucid echo]

@hearty spear @quasi root I think that temp might be okay actually. The hotspot/Tjunction is the absolute hottest temp prob in the silicon, and both AMD and Nvidia spec it to reach ~110. This is a very different reading than your normal GPU temperature, which is an average over several probes.

[full fossil]

i build once every 4-6 years

[lucid echo]

The "where" changes for the hotspot/Tjunc

[full fossil]

this year actually marks year 7, so i always go a little overkill

[quasi root]

https://i.imgur.com/TTWW3jm.png

[full fossil]

but I do CAD for a living.

[lucid echo]

Yeah that's fine. Ignore the hotspot temp

[quasi root]

thanks 🙂

[full fossil]

but trying to make an all around comp for everything under the sun

[vapid smelt]

get 2x16 now then upgrade with another kit down the line if needed

[full fossil]

gaming, CAD, et

[hearty spear]

But you could build a more reasonable box that's still very powerful for ~2K, and build a NEW PC that'd stomp on your 4K$ build in 3 ish years, and still have only spent ~4K overall

[full fossil]

too much work.

[quasi root]

thanks it was fine until i started playing MW2

[full fossil]

id rather go all in on an i9 vs mincing the finances

[hearty spear]

building PCs is fun, not work!

[waxen stream]

honestly i'd build my freind a pc for free

as long as theyre willing to pay for the parts

[full fossil]

it is fun, but when i build i go all out with a custom loop and the whole nine yards.

[waxen stream]

im not fucking rich

[lucid echo]

Some people don't have the time/motivation. I don't blame them

[full fossil]

so the build is a bit more involved and i dont plan on making one like that every few years.

[quasi root]

some people also call house cleaning fun

[lucid echo]

Same reason you pay extra for takeout/delivery even if you find cooking yourself to be fun. That's time you coulda spent doing something else.

[full fossil]

13th gen seems like a nice time to upgrade finally.

[vapid smelt]

the i7 13700k and i9 13900k both have 8P normal cores

[hearty spear]

I also call them nuts

[full fossil]

im on a 6700k at 4.7 Ghz atm

[lucid echo]

Housecleaning does wonders for a cluttered mind

[full fossil]

it does

[hearty spear]

agreed, but that doesn't make it "fun" lol

[lucid echo]

If you're high and listening to some good music, I would be inclined to disagree

[quasi root]

or like doing a jigsaw puzzle. i would pay not to do a puzzle

[full fossil]

or maybe I go hybrid for this build and use some parts from the skylake system

[lucid echo]

tkitch I don't think I've contradicted you this much ever wtf is going on

[manic torrent]

Having a clean house is amazing. If only I didn't need to clean to get there

[full fossil]

but i kinda like the idea of having another main PC and use the old one as a server or something.

[full fossil]

Bob!

[hearty spear]

Everyone's got opinions 😉

[full fossil]

Hello

[hearty spear]

And this is a case where it's actually opinions we can disagree on

[lucid echo]

I have no opinions. Only facts. I am never wrong.

[manic torrent]

yo yo, today is most auspicious. I unplugged my gaming PC and setup my laptop with the thunderbolt dock (under the desk) so I can not be tempted and get some work done

[quasi root]

can you link me to a website saying this? just curious

inquiring minds want to know

[full fossil]

still on the fence about the i9 vs the i7 tbhwy

[manic torrent]

I bought a stupidly cheap HP G2 dock, which I updated the firmware on, but it still wouldn't work with my screen.... but it did today, So I'm taking the win 😄

although I want to get a video card for my other egpu

[full fossil]

anyone here use quick disconnects in their custom loop?

[manic torrent]

no, I just have a drain valve

[full fossil]

the offerings for watercooling is crazy now.

i remember back in 2010 there was nothing

had to order from shady sites to get some good stuff.

my OG koolance block from 2010 is still kicking.

[full fossil]

thats the other thing im excited to do, hard tubing.

[manic torrent]

See the 90 degree and the large thing there? That flips out, and the large thing is a tap.

so I screw in a tube that is going to a bucket/whatever, and can drain it cleanly

and push the vent to allow air to get ... or just open the fill hole at the top

[hollow citrus]

man i love gigabit internet (i know it’s 500mbps but i’m over wifi)

it’s beautiful

[primal cairn]

Do you guys have any recommendations for earbuds

[full fossil]

Linux

[misty scarab]

has anyone ever heard of Replace Power RP-ATX-1000W-BLU 1000W ATX Power Supply Blue LED

[glacial basin]

who the fuck is replace power

[hollow citrus]

honestly i love my apple airpods and they work great with other bluetooth devices

get the pros if you get them

[glacial basin]

I feel like I got COVID but then I test negative

[primal cairn]

Nah I tried apple, they are not good at all

[full fossil]

https://i.imgur.com/9fUQQsw.png gigabit gang

[lucid echo]

If you're up to date on vaccines, it's possible to suppress the virus enough to test negative even if you're sick. Source - gf is epidemiologist

[hearty spear]

Esp on at home antigen tests

[sonic spruce]

I made a pc for my dad
It has 4 gbs of ram, it says there 3.2 gbs a available, why?

[hearty spear]

iGPU using some RAM?

[manic torrent]

I had to go through like a bazillion photos to get those 🙂

[sonic spruce]

There’s a gpu in it

[hearty spear]

what CPU?

[sonic spruce]

Old quad core cpu

[hearty spear]

intel Core2Quad?

[sonic spruce]

Similar to the first budget pc Linus made

[sonic spruce]

Maybe?

[manic torrent]

basically.... there's no garauntees. Our son has weird immune/blood issues so we stay home and wear N99 level comfortable masks anywhere, and just live in a bubble, it's super fun

[sonic spruce]

Sounds about right

[hearty spear]

check the BIOS, you can probably adjust down the amount of RAM the iGPU gets.

[manic torrent]

@full fossil

[sonic spruce]

What about dedicated to the os?

[full fossil]

drain?

[hearty spear]

there is no such thing, the OS just uses RAM that's there

[manic torrent]

.... that's everything that's left

[sonic spruce]

Wdym?

[manic torrent]

drain, and fill point on the top. super low profile so the top goes on (above that pic)

[full fossil]

thats a nice setup

[hearty spear]

the iGPU is the only thing that gets "dedicated memory"
Everything else shares the rest of the RAM, including the OS

[full fossil]

people who dont put a drain port make their lives so much harder

drain and fill ports are a must

[hearty spear]

I just put in a long straw and drink it

[full fossil]

overclocked water

[full fossil]

Mm tasty

[manic torrent]

I mean... why do you think I learned and put a drain port in 😄

[full fossil]

That’s just ek cryofluid

[hearty spear]

extra minerals and everything!

[full fossil]

EK makes their cryofluid from the blood of virgin gamers

[hearty spear]

So they'll never run out of sacrifices?

[full fossil]

Never.

[manic torrent]

The actual PC in full unicorn vomit mode

[full fossil]

Not enough flow meters.

[wraith sonnet]

My USB hub bullshit worked for this board

[full fossil]

You need at least 3 flow meters

[full fossil]

another good thing to keep in mind, depending on your reservoir is leaving a port for air so that when you're filling you dont get air bubbles preventing you from filling

[manic torrent]

it has one, but it's digital

[manic torrent]

you can't see the air vent in that pic, but it's there 🙂

[full fossil]

You need at least two more

[full fossil]

thats the way to go, nice.

[manic torrent]

I love it. HAX

[full fossil]

im used to building back when RGB wasnt on every single PC component

[wraith sonnet]

When the keyboard I want doesn't exist I'll make the damn keyboard myself

[full fossil]

its crazy the light show you can produce with some of these parts now.

[manic torrent]

my RGB setup is a lot of custom stuff and work 🙂

[full fossil]

is there a defacto fan that is above the competition now-a-days?

back in the day scythe gentletyphoon was the go to for water cooled setups.

[wraith sonnet]

Still the NFa12

[full fossil]

seems like manufacturers have upp'd their game

[full fossil]

damn really?!

[wind pulsar]

Oh, I can upload files in public chat too, I knew boosting the server had some benefit

[full fossil]

oh NF

[wraith sonnet]

you get what you payfor

[full fossil]

noctua

i thought you were referring to another one

[wind pulsar]

The Phanteks T30

[wraith sonnet]

https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x25-pwm

[wind pulsar]

Except the T30 beats it in pretty much every way possible

Except the P12 PST PWM beats it

[full fossil]

it has a very similar design to my gentle typhoons

i purchased the fans back then during the tsunami that hit japan

$25-$30 a fan at its peak.

[hearty spear]

the T30 is a beast of a fan, if you can deal with the extra thickness

[full fossil]

but damn noctuas going for $30 still, crazy

[wind pulsar]

Yup, and they won't stop doing that

If you want to pay less, P12 PST PWMs

They cost a third and perform literally the same

[hearty spear]

They sell at 30? So they charge 30

[full fossil]

is that arctic brand?

[wraith sonnet]

This is the exception to the rule but I still feel justified

[full fossil]

is there an RGB variant for these fans?

[wind pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YwmmP6/phanteks-ph-f120t30-67-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-ph-f120t30_bg_3p

Currently the best fan you can get on the market right now, although also expensive

[full fossil]

i want all the colors

[wind pulsar]

That.. doesn't say anything

That's a noise chart

[wind pulsar]

Yes, the P12 PST PWM A-RGB fans

[wraith sonnet]

when my qualifications are this arbitrary it will benefit me and me alone

[wind pulsar]

C-Cool

[wind pulsar]

Yes

[wraith sonnet]

I applaud phanteks for taking the crown but I still prefer the silence (and aesthetic because I'm that guy)

[hearty spear]

Phanteks fans look way better than noctua

[wraith sonnet]

agreed, counterpoint. My usecase

[wind pulsar]

It is literally a difference you won't notice

Especially with these two fans

Noise charts don't say anything about noise pitch, either

[wraith sonnet]

the pitch that the noctua fans I own basically hide it under ambience, the loudest parts of my setup is my keyboard and UPS

[manic torrent]

This is what a true enthusiasts RGB looks like

[wraith sonnet]

well and the steam controller is LOUD

[hearty spear]

ohhh, T30 pull up to 0.36A at full tilt

how does your UPS make noise?

[manic torrent]

It does have the other half of the case on the top now, which makes it safe and secure, but you can't see the arduinos and wiring

[wraith sonnet]

I still have very young ears, I can hear 21Khz still

[manic torrent]

me2, I hate it

[wraith sonnet]

despite having worked in construction

using jackhammers

[hearty spear]

whereas I can't hear shit. I'm deaf to ranges that humans can sing in.

[wind pulsar]

Me too, that's why I hate when people bring their chargers for their drills and stuff, because I can clearly hear them doing their shit

[wraith sonnet]

although it does come with the perk of being able to identify winy gpu's

[manic torrent]

it's part of the reason I have an ATX PSU under my desk for additional power - you don't roll the dice on 20 noisy wall warts

[wraith sonnet]

have you checked to see if GaN is noisy?

[wind pulsar]

The doctor expects me to have that kind of hearing until 30 too- although I don't personally believe in it, if that were the case, I'd have enough reason to cry in a corner for another eight years

[manic torrent]

I'm 41

[manic torrent]

I have a gan on my desk and have never heard it, and the noise floor in here is super low

[wind pulsar]

Oh, you're in the black void of not being old but definitely not being young, either

[wraith sonnet]

should I call the police I don't think aussies are supposed to have those kekw

[lilac sage]

damn

[wind pulsar]

Sounds fun, my old guild in FF14 unironically calls me a granny for some reason

[manic torrent]

you tell that to my creaky-ass body 🙂

[lilac sage]

if you played the OG FFs when they came out, you are prob older than the average gamer

[wind pulsar]

@hearty spear You have no right to put an KEKW on there, you old ass man

[fluid ridge]

there are a lot of over 18 year old folks in this server

what is this, a nursing home

[manic torrent]

most people are over 18

[hearty spear]

I'ma join your guild and be like "I was playing Final Fantasy before most of you were born. Fuck, I was SELLING FF7 before most of you were fucking born!"

[wraith sonnet]

you tagged tk and I'm the one that typed kekw...

[lilac sage]

I mean we're younger than the average Jays2Centz viewer

[fluid ridge]

i am also over 18

[manic torrent]

I didn't say you weren't

[hearty spear]

Half of my life ago? I was still over 18 😛

[wraith sonnet]

winter is coming, I'm gonna be 24... kill me

[wind pulsar]

I didn't.. mean you though?

[hearty spear]

I also reacted with it 😛

[wind pulsar]

You typed kekw, tkitch put kekw as a reaction on my message

[lilac sage]

20s=30s, If Children=False

[wraith sonnet]

I am incredibly unobservant

[woven saddle]

5800x3d at $340 right now
Is this across most stores?

[fluid ridge]

you guys realize 2020 is basically 3 years ago at this point

[hearty spear]

Akira also like giving me shit for being the ancient geezer that I am. >.<

[wraith sonnet]

can I have this formatted in c#?

I actually can't tell what it's supposed to mean

[lilac sage]

yes i remember buying a 5600X for 300USd now the freaking 5800X3D is that price :'(

[wind pulsar]

I still get asked for my ID at pretty much every store, because women with no creases at 4'10 height are regarded age 14 apparently

[lilac sage]

easy way to fix that

mom clothing

[dull violet]

Can you use a ryzen 5 3600 to play Minecraft without a gpu

[lilac sage]

no

[dull violet]

I thought Minecraft was cpu dependent

[hearty spear]

Around Tokyo the adults weren't really phased by me walking around, but frequently there were little kids who would stare mouths agape like.... "People get THAT big?!"

[wraith sonnet]

I am very tempted to react with the anime that's making me think of

[hearty spear]

a 3600 has no graphics card
you can't put anything on a screen without one

[lilac sage]

you need a gpu to display any sort of thing

[wind pulsar]

You don't stand out in Tokyo as much, since it's a tourist hub, lol

[wraith sonnet]

4'10", mom clothing.... looks like a child...

[dull violet]

My dad said it had basic graphics my motherboard has hdmi and vga slots

[wind pulsar]

Go into a random ass village in Japan and you'll get stared at period

[manic torrent]

4'10, ouch!

[hearty spear]

If you had a Ryzen G? Yes. Not not a 3600.

[lilac sage]

your dad lived in the past where motherboards had integrated graphics on it

[wraith sonnet]

well I'm Irish so I already would be stared at.

[lilac sage]

just cuz it has display ports doesnt mean it can display

[dull violet]

No he said the cpu had basic graphics that would mean i could still boot

[manic torrent]

I'm 41, and I have one 5yo son, who is chinese. My wife is also white af

[wind pulsar]

Ireland doesn't exi-

[hearty spear]

Ryzen does not have that.

[manic torrent]

if it is as you describe, it does NOT

[dull violet]

Fuck

[lilac sage]

your dad was misinformed

[dull violet]

Better pray for no gpu failure

[wind pulsar]

[manic torrent]

sorry to say your dad does not know what he's talking about

[lilac sage]

return/sell the 3600

[dull violet]

But i have a vega 3 processor

[wraith sonnet]

I'm American... I am mostly irish though.

[lilac sage]

what vega 3 processor?

[cursive tree]

hm

[dull violet]

So if my gpu fails i can use the vega 3 processor so i can boot

[hearty spear]

You can get a dirt-cheap add-on GPU used, like a gtx 750 or something.

[manic torrent]

what is the EXACT model of your CPU

[dull violet]

Amd athlon 200ge

[dull violet]

6 core? Idk what u mean by that

[lilac sage]

well ur just gonna have to use that

[hearty spear]

that chip HAS built in graphics.
A Ryzen 3600 does not.

[lilac sage]

the 200GE has a gpu inside it as well as the cpu. the 3600 only has a cpu

[dull violet]

Ill use my vega 3 processor if worse comes to worst

[manic torrent]

yeah exactly.

[wraith sonnet]

if it did have built in graphics I wouldn't have spend 150 on my 6600

[wind pulsar]

Anyway, gonna go shower and sing how tk is proud of him being like 65 or something

[lilac sage]

notice the G in 200GE. that stands for GRAPHICS

[manic torrent]

it's not a vega 3 processor, it's a 200GE

[manic torrent]

and the E for, EWWWWWWWWWWWW

[wraith sonnet]

what did E actually stand for?

[lilac sage]

E for EcoMode by default you lazy ass ppl

[dull violet]

The athlon 200ge js a piece of shit btw

[manic torrent]

I know 🙂

I mean, I didn't 5 minutes ago

[dull violet]

Speaking from experience but thanks to miners i had to use vega 3 and a garbage processor for 3 years

[wind pulsar]

I mean.. It's an Athlon

[lilac sage]

sell the 3600 while you can still get money for it or buy a GPU like at least a GT1030 or RX 6400 to compliment the 3600

[manic torrent]

but I have this amazing thing in front of me that can access more or less the complete amount of human knowledge

[candid magnet]

not bad, just low budget

[dull violet]

A athlon 200ge can go for 80$

But i wanna keep it for years

[full fossil]

any defacto water pumps or are they all sorta similar offerings?

[manic torrent]

and in discord you can literally double click it, right click, search in google, boom, question answered.

[dull violet]

For nostalgic purposes

[manic torrent]

variations on a theme.

[wind pulsar]

I'd probably rather buy an old X4 880k with that money

[manic torrent]

I'd rather buy more RGB

[full fossil]

not sure what you mean

[wind pulsar]

RGB IHS when?

RGB heatsinks when?

[manic torrent]

I mean there is little core difference, but they come in many packages

[wind pulsar]

RGB coldplates when?

[dull violet]

If you think people are dumb for buying a athlon 200ge for 80$ just know that some people buy gt 730's for 150$

[wind pulsar]

RGB heatpipes, hello?

[full fossil]

ahh kk, there isnt some pump on steroids out there?

[fluid ridge]

cloud gaming is actually a really nice idea

i dont know why it hasnt taken off yet

[dull violet]

With the money for a gt 730 u can get a used 1060

[manic torrent]

not really. I run my pump at a looooow duty cycle most of the time due to noise

[full fossil]

i still have my swiftech MCP655

with some EK mod for flow

[dull violet]

Going from vega 3 to a gtx 1060 was life changing i never had a gpu before that

[full fossil]

been going 24/7 for like 12 years so far

very surprised it hasnt died.

[dull violet]

Before that it was always intergraded gpus

[manic torrent]

I bought a second hand DDC pump, piece of crap burned out.

[wraith sonnet]

I went from no graphics to a gt1030...

[lilac sage]

why arent you using the gtx 1060?

[fluid ridge]

i went from really shitty laptop igpus to a 3070 and a 12600k

[dull violet]

I am

[full fossil]

yeah its tough to assess the pumps health especially second hand

[manic torrent]

Replaced it with the upgraded circuit from ... wherever the people are that make those things. been going since in my server

[fluid ridge]

i would not call it life changing but i can now play games

[full fossil]

never know if they were run dry

[lilac sage]

why do you care if the 3600 doesnt have graphics then?

[dull violet]

I love it i was dancing when mu dad surprised me with it

[dull violet]

Gpu failure what if my gpu fails

[lilac sage]

what if ur cpu fails

[manic torrent]

that ... isn't that common

[dull violet]

Then i got to put the athlon back in

[candid magnet]

now you know why the 150$ gt1030 exists

[lilac sage]

then you put the athlon back

[wraith sonnet]

get a 5600g then? or failing that a 3200g?

[dull violet]

I already got the cpu

[hearty spear]

A 1660 goes for 150 or less used now, and is 3x a 1030

[dull violet]

Im hopefully getting a 3050 for my birthday next year

[lilac sage]

I wouldnt get it

[candid magnet]

you can return the 1030 when you're done with it

[manic torrent]

next year a 3050 will be junk

[full fossil]

https://www.amazon.com/Alphacool-29131-Eiskoffer-Professional-Measuring/dp/B076Q3VL93

kinda want to get this, but that price

[candid magnet]

it's also not a given that wherever you live has easily accessible used hardware

[full fossil]

300, holy, for 100 sold. but thats a tough number to swallo

[hearty spear]

Most places do tho

[dull violet]

Well 3080s are already down to 500 dollars i might be able yo get one of those

[manic torrent]

I got a bunch of crap but in the end a good eyeball is generally way easier/better.

[manic torrent]

lol, 3050 vs 3080 is a WORLD of difference

[full fossil]

any recommendations on a decent bending kit?

[lilac sage]

the 3050 is equivalent to a 1070 or 1070ti which is like at most 20% faster than a 1060 6GB. I would ask for money instead and keep ur cash until the 1060 dies or you have enough funds to get something really good like a 3070

[manic torrent]

you're going from medium detail 1080p, to 4k ultra

[dull violet]

I hate miner and the fact that there power washing there gpus is funny asf dont buy there used gpus they dont deserve it

[dull violet]

I have 1060 3gb bro

[wraith sonnet]

heatpipes? or just water cooling

[lilac sage]

ok. then its like 30%

still not a big upgrade

[manic torrent]

I just got a cheap one. was fine.

[full fossil]

got heatpipes covered, got other tools for that.

[hearty spear]

Then what's the issue with the 3600?

[full fossil]

just the hard plastic tubes

[lilac sage]

he's worried his gpu breaks

[dull violet]

My dad could have gotten a gtx 1080 because they were being sold for 200 dollars but honestly i dont mind as long as i got a gpu im grateful i love my dad so much

[full fossil]

i imagine patience and a steady hand goes a long way with ensuring the quality of the bend

damn

1080 for 200?!

[lilac sage]

just skip the 3050 tbh. a 6600 is practically the same price and performs closer to the 3060 than the 3050

[manic torrent]

yeah that is market price atm

[dull violet]

And i have an amd cpu so ill get the most out of a 6600

[manic torrent]

all the GPUs are falling, and falling fast. still high vs what they WOULD have been, but it's normalising

[manic torrent]

it really doesn't make much difference

[lilac sage]

the 3050 was created to make nvidia mad stacks off desperate ppl during the silicon shortage

[dull violet]

What kinda mf would get an intel arc and then use it with an amd cpu or get an amd gpu and put it with an intel cpu

[manic torrent]

this isn't entirely correct... but the bit that is correct is nvidia making mad stacks 😄

[manic torrent]

lots of people, all the time. As I said, it doesn't matter.

[dull violet]

Aka the reason i had to use vega 3

[full fossil]

great time to pick up a GPU soon

i have a 1080 ti, i guess a 3080 or 3090 is in order.

or 3080 ti?

[wind pulsar]

Do you feel that you need it?

[dull violet]

https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6500-xt-gv-r65xtgaming-oc-4gd-version-1-0/p/N82E16814932491?item=N82E16814932491&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwordsca-mobile

Holy crap that is cheap

[manic torrent]

6950xt

[manic torrent]

6500xt is pure garbage

[dull violet]

Oh

[wind pulsar]

That is not cheap lmao

[full fossil]

probably not tbh

dont have too many games i like to play besides destiny 2

although would be nice to have destiny 2 run 144 FPS

[lilac sage]

worse performance than a 3050 dont let the name fool you.

[full fossil]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-34GK950F-B-34-21-Ultragear/dp/B0798Q8KG4 got this bad boy

[lilac sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459389584980049940/974390896139333692/benchmarks.png heres a nice chart

oh shit this channel dont got embed

[full fossil]

oo that is a nice chart, thanks

[lilac sage]

I forgot

[full fossil]

yeah no embed which sucks

[lilac sage]

oldie but goodie.

I dont have the upgraded graph that includes ARC

[dull violet]

False alarm guys rtx 3080 still over priced at 1k dollars

[wind pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7H7YJ/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6500-xt-4-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r65xtgaming-oc-4gd THAT is a cheap 6500 XT

[lilac sage]

in the US i dont think so

[wind pulsar]

But still, not worth it

[lilac sage]

those guys are 750ish

[lilac sage]

wait wtf they made a 3 fan 6500XT?

[bright silo]

still $170 too much

[lilac sage]

gigabyte is actually high

[wind pulsar]

You can pick one up for $700, so no

[bright silo]

you can get used 3080s for really cheap

[dull violet]

Thats because amazon makes you pay double the money in canada

[lilac sage]

wasnt sure you were canadian

[dull violet]

Even tho the usd version would not even exchange for yhe amount of money

[wind pulsar]

Not really, for a card that's roughly a 1650 G6, that's probably around the cheapest you can get it to, truthfully. That's already well under MSRP

[woven saddle]

$740 brand new 3080: https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30800J-10PLHR/dp/B099ZCG8T5/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3KHSFQDGSIIU6&keywords=3080+trinity&qid=1666751900&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjk2IiwicXNhIjoiMS43NCIsInFzcCI6IjAuOTIifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3080+trinity%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-2

[wind pulsar]

That is not how money conversion works

[full fossil]

is there a brand of fittings that is generally the go to for quality? I know EK is up there, koolance.

[dull violet]

Something could be 300 dollars in the us and out of nowhere like 800 dollars in vanada

[full fossil]

but not sure about the new offerings

[bright silo]

not when you consider you can get a used GPU with more VRAM, more performance, and actual encoding engines for the same or less

[lilac sage]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-dual-radeon-rx-6600-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15956792?irclickid=3j4wDW1jixyNTBbVQLwX40NvUkDV%3AOVuIzsDyM0&ref=affiliate&utm_content=79301&utm_source=IR&acmp=PCPartPicker&utm_term=898179&irgwc=1 best card I would consider for around the 3050's price

[wind pulsar]

Y-Yeah, because the USD is worth 1.3 times what the Canadian dollar is

[manic torrent]

I actually ended up with a lot of bykski and barrow stuff - particularly because it was more available/in stock. I also have EK stuff, and others

[vapid smelt]

rtx 3050 is cringe

[lilac sage]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/mr/canadacomputers/Fr8bt6 and if ur willing to spend 30USD more than a 3050's lowest price you get this beast which beats the 3060 consistently

[full fossil]

alphacool is up there too from what I remember?

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, but for what he just listed and called 'cheap' he could've gotten a 3050 for like $20 more

[woven saddle]

Anyone know why Zotac's Firestorm is getting flagged by windows defender?

[manic torrent]

yeah I have al alphacool rad. tbh some of my stuff is very specific brands, because they have the exact kind of fitting I needed to fit in X spot.

[dull violet]

Let me send my example to a chat i can send images

Tech chat 1

[full fossil]

totally feel you on that, some brands just have what ya need

i have bitspower fittings all around for mine

[full fossil]

false positive?

[sonic spruce]

Is it possible to see if a 1650 super works with a 235 watt psu just to see if it works, not to game

[violet jay]

Try the Squintoskweef Injection

[manic torrent]

yes should be fine

[sonic spruce]

Sarcasm?

[manic torrent]

no, if you're not doing 3d stuff it will draw SFA

[woven saddle]

It must be, it's just weird that a company like zotac isn't recognized as a publisher by windows

[manic torrent]

hahahha, this happens all the time.

[full fossil]

I think youd be fine, but depends on the rest of the system too

[full fossil]

windows in general isnt all that thorough imo

[violet jay]

It will fry your router don't even try

[full fossil]

its overly trigger happy

[sonic spruce]

Router?

[violet jay]

I think OstBefo knows more about it than me

[full fossil]

fried router, im curious too

[sonic spruce]

I’m so confused?

[violet jay]

Are you a newgen?

[full fossil]

Ost knows more

[sonic spruce]

You mean newegg?

[violet jay]

No

new-gen

[sonic spruce]

Look is it possible or not?

[full fossil]

Probably not

[violet jay]

Ask Ost he knows more

[full fossil]

Not worth a shot

[sonic spruce]

235 watts to see if a 1650 super works

[violet jay]

The probability that it works is not even worth it

[full fossil]

Stick with a lower wattage

Try to find something lower

[sonic spruce]

Fuck, ok then I’ll put it in my main pc

[full fossil]

Yeah that's smarter

[sonic spruce]

Wdym?

[full fossil]

Bro What

[sonic spruce]

Didn’t Linus put a gtx 650 in a 235 watt pc?

[full fossil]

Well yeah that's Linus

[violet jay]

No that was CarterPCS

[sonic spruce]

First budget pc

[full fossil]

He said in that very video

That it isn't the smartest thing to do; also, it was for a video so

Don't trust everything you see online

[vapid smelt]

but you said that on the internet should we trust that?

[full fossil]

but you said that on the internet should we trust that?

[cedar pebble]

😳

[full fossil]

hi

[wind pulsar]

[full fossil]

please stay on topic

[vapid smelt]

eat my ups

[full fossil]

ong

[full fossil]

Cope

Flander McWallice wouldn't agree

[misty scarab]

Steam game ive been waiting a long rime for it to launch has finally released a demo, and it crashes within less than a minute of my opening it

[full fossil]

lmao

[wind pulsar]

Glad we've talked about this

[full fossil]

Mate what

[lilac sage]

damn

[hollow citrus]

my honest reaction to that information:

[misty scarab]

imagine

[dreamy rose]

[misty scarab]

people still play fortnite?

[dreamy rose]

only little children

[wispy marsh]

Apple Arcade is a the best place for games when you're using portable consoles

[lilac sage]

but uh.... goku.

[dreamy rose]

Mario shilling for a Apple? Hes a nintendo charicter!

[violet jay]

You're going to freak out once you see what im playing

[dreamy rose]

Silence child

[full fossil]

What's this guy on aboyut

[violet jay]

What are you talking about

Your mind is low maintenance

[full fossil]

Hannah Montanah's Kitchen Cabinet

[violet jay]

Sam & Cat's Catastrophic Babysitting Failure

[wind pulsar]

Good thing I'm not a guy then

[dreamy rose]

hey now he's talking. the Pinnacle of Desktop use.

[full fossil]

What's this They/Them on about*

[violet jay]

Sorry They

[wind pulsar]

N-No I'm simply a woman

I know, hard to believe, but they exist too

[violet jay]

How is that hard to believe

[dreamy rose]

one one they seen is they Mums.

[wind pulsar]

You'd be genuinely surprised

[wind pulsar]

[manic torrent]

women? on my internet?

[wind pulsar]

It's not the internet, it's the interman after all, unbelievable!

[violet jay]

Damien told me that it's impossible to extract that

[full fossil]

Don't try

unless u have the Oskafine plugin

[violet jay]

Not even planning on it

[ripe patrol]

bites tongue and doesn't make OF comment

[violet jay]

Na i live in Oregon so there is no point

[dreamy rose]

ikr? they Deserve nothing but a good time here right?

[manic torrent]

maybe they don't WANT a good time. Perhaps all people want is basic respect.

[wind pulsar]

I was about to say, the way it was worded sounded extremely deliberate

[vapid smelt]

state of the drugs

[manic torrent]

there's no way to know with BSS, we keep him around for his hilariously bad takes.

[dreamy rose]

who doesn't like having some fun times with other people?

[full fossil]

You can't really drop it unless it's in your pocket and when it's that hard to get then just don't even try

[dreamy rose]

say whaaa?

[violet jay]

Sometimes u just gotta take Risks

[full fossil]

WTF is this guy on about?

[dreamy rose]

what? women cant have fun on the internet? they cant go browse all the games and look at funny cats and dogs like guys can? NONSENSE I SAY, NONSENSE! everyone can go look at things and play what they like.

[full fossil]

this they/them thing of this generation is truly some mind numbing stuff

[full fossil]

Facts LoL

[wind pulsar]

It's more hilarious to me how like 90% of people who say that are men

[full fossil]

"i identify as a bottle nose dolphin"

[dreamy rose]

linus got under fire for a similar joke being in the Credits of a video before. the classic one.

[manic torrent]

transphobes have one joke

[full fossil]

how fragile do you have to be to take offense to that kind of stuff.

[manic torrent]

to take offense to people not having basic respect for what you would prefer to be called?

[wind pulsar]

You should be very careful with that, actually

Trans people often went through literal emotional hell in order to be even remotely recognized as so and I don't find it remotely fun if people crack jokes about it

[full fossil]

i mean in the sense of taking offense if someone misidentifies whatever it is.

[manic torrent]

it?

[full fossil]

yeah whatever it is you like to be called

[manic torrent]

yeah you're making up stuff and getting annoyed by it

[full fossil]

?

[manic torrent]

"taking offense" isn't the point\

[vapid smelt]

[manic torrent]

saying "I identify as an apache helicopter" is disrespecting the entire CONCEPT of self identification.

[full fossil]

bottle nose dolphin*

[manic torrent]

yeah, same shit, I don't care.

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

[wind pulsar]

Sadly, people don't give a shit, since internet means no repercussions

IRL it would often be a fist to the face

[full fossil]

irl id go with the most logic of the choices, he/her

[primal cairn]

What happened to the 4080

[fathom pebble]

i do enjoy how this is like the second new person comee in here today and start this shit

[wind pulsar]

Anyway, as Momo has stated before, such kinds of topics really don't belong here, so moving on

[full fossil]

yeah lets shift gears

[dreamy rose]

4080 12 was taken away. probably the 4070 now

[wind pulsar]

The 4080 16 GB isn't released yet

[vapid smelt]

4080 12gb going to become the rtx 4090ti

[wind pulsar]

4080 12GB got cancelled

[dreamy rose]

we wish.

[full fossil]

i wonder why they cancelled em

is something going to replace it or is the 4080 going to be a void

[dreamy rose]

its a Cut down card from the 4080.

[wind pulsar]

Because it was at best a 4070-class card with the name 4080 on it, which is what people would call a 'cash grab'

[wind pulsar]

No, there's still a 4080

[dreamy rose]

*4060Ti

[fathom pebble]

the 4080 16gb is still a cash grab

[wind pulsar]

'at best a 4070-class [...]'

[dreamy rose]

every card from Nvidia this gen is really gonna be a Cashgrab

[vapid smelt]

remember when the best card was $699

[wind pulsar]

The Apple virus is spreading, I suppose

Once they found out people pay over a $1,000 for stuff they don't need, they milk it as much as possible

[dreamy rose]

when AMD has a spot to slot their best cards at 1K. its hard to deny that Nvidia has likely opened themselves to some competition here.

[fathom pebble]

tbh not really

[full fossil]

GPU prices are bonkers

[manic torrent]

The problem is that nvidia designed lovelace without regard for cost or power consumption

[dreamy rose]

you wouldn't save 600 dollars on a high end GPU?

[fathom pebble]

amd barely applies to the market that buys 1000 + GPUs

i literally cannot. i have to use cuda

[manic torrent]

not really, You can get a 6650XT very affordably, and play everything happily

[full fossil]

well theyve normalized a bit now

but just saying in general the last few months

[manic torrent]

a bit!?

In March 2021, I paid $1500 AUD for a 3070

[full fossil]

god damn

[dreamy rose]

poor blokes sold his soul to Corporate schoolyard bullies.

[full fossil]

happy i havent had much need to upgrade from the 1080 ti

[wind pulsar]

I paid $2,000 each for my 3090s back then btw

[manic torrent]

JFC you have no idea how the world really worjks, do you

[fathom pebble]

not even sold my soul, its literally just every prograrm that does actual work using a gpu is cuda

and people doing actual work are most of the people buying 4090s

[dreamy rose]

JFC you never understand a joke.

[manic torrent]

same reason I have a T400 in my server

[manic torrent]

except it's not funny?

[wind pulsar]

This is WITHOUT crippling shortages that lead to high prices btw

[full fossil]

shudders

[wind pulsar]

A joke would have to be funny though

[dreamy rose]

yeah well, Jokes are Subjective. i shouldn't need to apologise for your lack of humor.

[manic torrent]

how exactly is it a joke - what is the juxtaposition or comparison or situation that makes it unexpected and amusing?

[wind pulsar]

There are definitely jokes that you could've found funny and are insensitive enough that you should apologize for it

Satire isn't a green card to say anything you want

[manic torrent]

Two fish in a tank, one turns to the other and says "mate, do you know how to drive this fuckin thing?!"

Funny because fish live in water, and in tanks, but not in military tanks. and don't talk.

[dreamy rose]

do i need to apologize because a man has to use CUDA?

or is it that we need better competition

[wind pulsar]

I obviously wasn't referring to your particular example, but to your 'lack of humor thing'

[fathom pebble]

yes its a terrible ailment and fatal (to my wallet)

[manic torrent]

lol it was just a prank bro

[dreamy rose]

Sorry for your fallen Wallet dude

[wind pulsar]

Sike, there are fish that can survive on land

[manic torrent]

one day, a fish climbed out of the water and now I have to pay rent.

[wind pulsar]

Better teach em how to drive tanks now

[fathom pebble]

im just glad amd spooked nvidia into the 3060 12gb, made my life much easieer

didnt have to go to the 3080ti for 12 gb

[wind pulsar]

[fathom pebble]

stupid nvidia and vram seegmeenting

[manic torrent]

yeah, a card that's hilariously useless for gaming, but perfect for larger datasets

[manic torrent]

the 3070 8gb was so stupid.

[fathom pebble]

3080 10gb was so stupid

600 dollar card with 10 gb what a joke

[dreamy rose]

we just need Nvidia to drop their crown and have Radeon be on top for a while. then hopefully Radeon's support and drivers can be better.

[fathom pebble]

radeon needs to bee on top for like half a decade

one generation just isnt enough to seriously matter

[wind pulsar]

The H510 Flow is a good case

[dreamy rose]

its not happening in our lifetimes but it is vital enough that they do.

[vapid smelt]

radeon is out power bottom

[full fossil]

when do you think the nukes are gonna drop

[fathom pebble]

i am really banking on MI250x and cdna 3 being such compute monsters that we see more amd adoption on the science end

[dreamy rose]

when the US government gets hands on the 5090 and makes fun of their rival for having Tsar Bomba instead

[fathom pebble]

and that'll trickle on into applications as time goes on

[full fossil]

a 5090 will use a combustion engine to power it that'll just use nukes in the chamber

[fathom pebble]

thee best hope is that amd comes up with a cuda translation layer. that would be an insanee game changer

[lilac sage]

isnt HIP basically that?

but like suckier?

[fathom pebble]

HIP can implement cuda and amd's hipcc or whatever, but does not actually translate existing cuda implementations

[dreamy rose]

what AMD likely has the Advantage in this gen is Laptops. ik i'd buy regardless. i need an upgrade anyways

[fathom pebble]

it basically acts as a place that a dev can easily write for both cuda and hipcc without any major conflicts

amd is so far ahead in laptops its kinda insane

[lilac sage]

AMD's strong suit is efficiency yes. so its very good in server and laptops

prob good in cars as well

[fathom pebble]

navi 23 is in teslas yes

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 3 is gonna be amazing, and i'm not talking about dGPUs

[lilac sage]

damn. remember when sapphire rapids was gonna come out?

still hasnt

[fathom pebble]

yeah intel eating shit real hard right now

[lilac sage]

AMD has released like 3 product lines since saphirre rapids was supposed to be released

[fathom pebble]

yep, and spr will still be seriously behind milan when it launches, not to eveen mention genoa

[lilac sage]

they released Milan, Milan-X, and ye Genoa is coming now

[fathom pebble]

genoa comees ouut nov 10th, wonder when we will see bergamo

genoa-x too

[lilac sage]

supposedly Siena is a thing?

is that zen4c?

[fathom pebble]

siena is the smaller socket i believe

theere will bee SP5 for the full 96 core genoa and 128 core bergamo, and then sp6 (siena) which will support lower core counts on a cheaper platform

zeen4c is bergamo

[lilac sage]

oh. ok

[wraith sonnet]

Still early stages for the hub wiring but I spent most of my time getting the massive jacket off the splitter itself and making the c port flush

[vapid smelt]

is that a plastic keyboard?

[wraith sonnet]

The bottom is, the top is metal

[vapid smelt]

smh

[wraith sonnet]

Bruh I bought the board from NPS for 5 USD

[vapid smelt]

get some class go all brass

[wraith sonnet]

It had a volume wheel and blues for 5 USD what else could I want other than what I'm modding in for 25 usd

[lilac sage]

use lead

[candid magnet]

uranium keyboard keeps me warm

[wraith sonnet]

The PLUMBing theme isn't until later but that will be a whole ass computer

[lilac sage]

Radium keyboard makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

[dreamy rose]

do this instead of RGB

[vapid smelt]

radium butter

[wraith sonnet]

Didn't they turn into cache valley?

[dreamy rose]

what a cursed emote

[lilac sage]

any1 ever watch that documentary about the women who painted radium onto clock hands and had their jaws basically fall off?

cool beans

[dreamy rose]

i think i saw something similar

horrifying what shit can do to you

[wraith sonnet]

I'm still considering getting the face sandblasted

[vapid smelt]

a guy DRANK radium "energery drink" radium water

lost his jaw and died

[dreamy rose]

the Father of Monster

[wraith sonnet]

I'm trying to find where I put the volume wheel and I still need to add the holes for the three type A ports

Then for the Noctua caps

Probably going to print a replacement for that hexagonal button too

[vapid smelt]

wood board with Noctua caps

[wraith sonnet]

I'm allergic to most woods that would be used for this purpose

[fluid ridge]

noctua color scheme is ass

[wraith sonnet]

Although it may be the bark I'm allergic to

[dreamy rose]

so you cant use Chopping boards?

[wraith sonnet]

PTFE chopping boards

[wraith sonnet]

I literally have a noctua themed sleeper

[dreamy rose]

wdym? Noctua looks nice

[vapid smelt]

get some "noctua" headphones

[wraith sonnet]

Chromax does, tan and brown has to be worked towards

[fluid ridge]

some noctua executive out there thought that shit brown and coffee tan would make a good color scheme for their fans

[wraith sonnet]

Oh my good God how much

[fluid ridge]

they intentionally made the color scheme dogshit so they could sell chromax versions for more expensive

[dreamy rose]

these look like they come with your Rolls Royce.

[fluid ridge]

the classic create a problem and sell a solution

[vapid smelt]

169

[vapid smelt]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-599-Open-Headphone/dp/B01L1IICR2 130****

[wraith sonnet]

Literally not what happened

Look at their historical data, the color used to be worse, they just went for the plastics that made the best frame and fan, which coincidentally made it look like that.

The brown rubber is just to match though

[vapid smelt]

i thought it was tan sine it was perceived as premium

[dreamy rose]

unrelated tangent, but you know the Original 3DS?

[wraith sonnet]

Tan ABS has some very weird mechanical properties

[dreamy rose]

this thing blows. the other designs are fine. this ones flawed as fuck.

[delicate stirrup]

I heard that they picked the ugliest colors on god's green earth to stand out and they sure fucking did

[manic torrent]

you're showing your (young) age

[vapid smelt]

yellow is the ugliest color

[fluid ridge]

i will take that as a compliment

i take pride in my spry youthfulness

[candid magnet]

yellow has cyberpunk vibes

[delicate stirrup]

they have that 70s vibe to it

[manic torrent]

I had UV reactive clear fans and UV CCFL in my build back in the day, it was bitchin

I also remember buying a Lian Li PC-60b, because it was the first case that was aluminium and not steel

[vapid smelt]

what pet dino did you have bob?

[manic torrent]

labradino

[dreamy rose]

isn't that case used in LGR's Megaluminum monster?

[manic torrent]

yes! it was a fucking epic case for the time - even now, with the removable tray and stuff it's pretty good. Most cases at the time were utter utter shit

[dreamy rose]

anyone with an alienware knows what its like living with such cases

[manic torrent]

yeah that's pretty much correct

[dreamy rose]

gut one and make a Windows 98 PC. then you just have a Tacky looking retro system.

i wanna see someone do that

[manic torrent]

weird shitty fascias, shitall airflow, bizarre design decisions, cheap garbage internally, fans that don't work for various reasons, shitty fans.

[delicate stirrup]

guys I need some tech tips

[vapid smelt]

im selling them at $25 per

[dreamy rose]

you get one

[full fossil]

just ordered an ak620

[dreamy rose]

big gun

[full fossil]

ill buy 5

[delicate stirrup]

What is your best tech tip

[full fossil]

yes

[dreamy rose]

don't cheap out on Power supply

[full fossil]

i hate you

[vapid smelt]

w

[delicate stirrup]

oh thanks I appreciate your tech tip

[dreamy rose]

thank you for reminding me.

[full fossil]

NOOO

[delicate stirrup]

looks good can I hav some

[full fossil]

YOU FUCKER

[vapid smelt]

mac n cheese sounds good rn

[dreamy rose]

this does not compare to the mighty Halal Snack Pack

[full fossil]

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-cheese-sandwich-cheesy-cheese-food-gif-23868674

[glacial basin]

I feel like I'm paralyzed in the head and my body

[full fossil]

I hope you take a shower and get out and go to bed and get your pillow wet

[dreamy rose]

are you that hungry?

[glacial basin]

yes and no

[vapid smelt]

hows your fasting going biggie?

[full fossil]

I hate you

[glacial basin]

y'know what I'm going back to sleeping

[full fossil]

I'm so hungry now

[dreamy rose]

then don't fast

[west sentinel]

Hi so hungry now, I'm @west sentinel

[full fossil]

ITS FOR HEALTH REASONS

[full fossil]

._.

[vapid smelt]

ill drive down to arizonia tomorrow and makea bbq outside your window

[full fossil]

coopa are you just gonna torture me for the next 48 hours?

[west sentinel]

I will bring a macroni salad like everyone would do

[vapid smelt]

[dreamy rose]

Who cares! ZINGER BOXES FOR EVERYONE

[glacial basin]

fuck yeah

[full fossil]

Ima hit you with the

try me

[delicate stirrup]

I just realized that 4090 is a downgrade in terms of VRAM

[full fossil]

all caps

[delicate stirrup]

pretty big downgrade too

cuz you can't nvlink it

[west sentinel]

SOMEBODY, bring me on the line with the MR PRESIDENT

[full fossil]

no

[glacial basin]

why the fuck you wanna NVLINK it

[delicate stirrup]

to get 48GB of VRAM

[glacial basin]

workstations have their own solution

[dreamy rose]

[full fossil]

consumers need sli 4090's DUH

[glacial basin]

plus games totally run fine with dual GPUSls

[delicate stirrup]

professional gpus are in another price range

[dreamy rose]

4090 is a Professional GPU.

[delicate stirrup]

he's referring to the quadros and stuff

[candid magnet]

4090 is cheap vs professional gpus

[delicate stirrup]

which do have nvlink but i'm just saying they're very expensive

[glacial basin]

or you can do inhumane methods of what miners do + software and boom you got 4090s

quadros too work

[violet wagon]

Medium rare

[glacial basin]

I feel like my brain is multung every decond

[violet wagon]

Ayo

[dreamy rose]

Fermi 2.0

[full fossil]

fuck you i was going to say that

[glacial basin]

it feels like I got COVID and yet negative tests

[delicate stirrup]

did you use pcr

[violet wagon]

Oi, no! No need for all the swearing

[glacial basin]

only saliva

[violet wagon]

In both messages u sent

[full fossil]

heck

[vapid smelt]

i have covid wanna kiss?

[glacial basin]

mwa

[full fossil]

when do i get a coopa kiss

[vapid smelt]

when you turn 18

[full fossil]

big oof

so in 17 years got it

oh dearie me

time to listen to funkytown at 100% and vibrate my walls

[delicate stirrup]

I hate playing video games so I'm going to put my computer to work by watching some anime

[full fossil]

👀

@vapid smelt

https://preview.redd.it/o6kkg9ncuzv91.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4d7fa3d5dd69c9616e55e7b10c6af5b15fc020ba

[full fossil]

fuck

no embeds L

[vapid smelt]

ltt jono makes some good bbq

[full fossil]

you're a terrible person

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

I hope someone slams the door open in turn ripping the toenails off

basically I hope your toenails get torn off

[vapid smelt]

i wear steeltoe shoes

[full fossil]

barefoot

bearfeet

bearfooted just means you're wearing bear slippers

[lean palm]

absolutely exhausted writing my first resume for an IT administrator job -_-

[vapid smelt]

just write a script to make one for you

[lean palm]

genius

[full fossil]

my hair is long enough to effectively headbang now (clap now)

[lean palm]

somehow found a local job that starts at 20 hours a week, works around school schedules, doesn’t require any official qualifications, has a bus route, and is starting at $25 an hour so I really don’t want to bomb this

[vapid smelt]

Panda Express pays 22 near me

@full fossil what are you having for breakfast

[full fossil]

nothing