public-chat

[elfin python]

:/

[ashen zodiac]

yes, that's similar to removing the battery

[full fossil]

yems

[elfin python]

#off-topic

[scarlet lion]

Random question do I need any program to use floppy disks? Besides the floppy disk drive it self

[dreamy rose]

no

[ashen zodiac]

Windows has native support, so if you use that then no

[scarlet lion]

Okay just checking

[full fossil]

windows bad

[dreamy rose]

just about the only storage media you cant use in modern windows is Cassette

[ashen zodiac]

11 yes, 10 no

[dreamy rose]

10 isn't bad anymore its just Mediocre

[ashen zodiac]

10 is fine honestly. i still prefer Mac over it by a long way but it's nowhere near as bad as it was on release

[elfin python]

I probably need a new gpu soon…
Maybe I’ll buy a rx 6650xt

[elfin python]

Still black screening problems while I try to use my pc

😢

How to enable safe mode

Jesus Christ I am getting seizure lights from my monitor

[ashen zodiac]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234

[elfin python]

My computer seems more stable after running DDU

Also it’s Deepavali today

This is tiring though
Now I can’t do my studying

[scarlet lion]

Guys I just found a Pentium cpu

The first one

i think

[spare frigate]

photo please

let us see

[scarlet lion]

Where should I post it?

[spare frigate]

here only dude

[scarlet lion]

Which channel tho cause I can’t in public

[carmine merlin]

you need fp or twitch sub

[scarlet lion]

Well it’s not letting me

[spare frigate]

tech chat 1

[scarlet lion]

Okay

[full fossil]

question, if the flash ran with milk, would the milk spoil faster because it's interacting with the speedforce or no

[dreamy rose]

is flash just fast or is he manipulating time?

[full fossil]

he's not just fast, he's got this weird speedforce thing which does all sorts of weirdness

meaning he can time travel and stuff, not sure exactly how the flash's super speed works

but i DO think it's just moving really fast

[dreamy rose]

lost me, i've never cared for superhero movies

[full fossil]

as he does require more calories canonically

so i believe it's just moving really fast

[dreamy rose]

would he die if he got on a pair of really tall stilts?

[full fossil]

elaborate

like when he smashes his face into the ground when he inevitably trips? orr

[dreamy rose]

mmhm

[full fossil]

no

the flash is very durable and has accelerated healing

[dreamy rose]

they really gave this man plot armor huh

[full fossil]

they are a superhero

what do you think

[dreamy rose]

i think no human should survive having their head explode like a watermelon after falling from a pair of stilts 5 stories tall or some shit tall.

[full fossil]

you think correctly but also not with much foresight

[hearty raven]

If my teacher is mad at me. Should I buy her a new pc?

[full fossil]

no

[dreamy rose]

why?

[full fossil]

say sorry and behave better

🤷

that's the meta strat

[hearty raven]

Lol I saved money from that.

[zinc brook]

what

do you happen to be the son of elon musk or what

[hearty raven]

No i am a son of a parent that gives me celeron laptops

[dreamy rose]

we have XAEA-12 in the server

[full fossil]

you dare butcher X Æ A-12's name

feel so bad for that kid

their school life is going to be disastrous all because elon wanted to pull a publicity stunt

[dreamy rose]

wasn't it pronounced Kyle or some shit?

[lucid echo]

Idk man, and I really don’t care, take it up with the person who was trying to defend it

[full fossil]

no

X Ash A Twelve

[lucid echo]

I shared that to show how damn pointless y’all’s bickering was

[elfin python]

Well I really need a job now so I have money to buy a new gpu
At least my exams are ending soon and I could start work in mid November

But for now I might jerry rig a solution to use the igpu

[full fossil]

great for me :)

i always get a video im interested in :)

[zinc brook]

oh

celeron

[dreamy rose]

they must hate you if they are giving you the most bottom of the barrel systems.

[full fossil]

or they're just ignorant

[carmine merlin]

My advice to get a gaming setup?

1. Be absolutely determined.
2. Do a side job (for me that's selling noodles) like mowing other people's lawn
   And for those who think of giving up, I have worked on this setup for 2 years and honestly, it's worth it.

[dreamy rose]

hey! we have Guy Eldoon in the server!

[carmine merlin]

I don't know who's that

[dreamy rose]

dude that sells noodles in Ace Attorney

[night heron]

can you serve me some ramen

[carmine merlin]

sure (I have to see if I still have stock tho)

[lament gust]

Ayooo

[dreamy rose]

eat the bowl thats on his head. he wears a noodle bowl on his head

[lament gust]

Happy diwali

🧨

[empty wadi]

ayo
i was looking through LTT's old videos and found this video with the ogs but riley too. Is this from when linus was still doing contract work for ncix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN3yL6Geni0

[small zephyr]

🤔 f i killed my kezboard by accident

well just ordered some wormir k61 as replacement

🤔 48€ for an kezboard with hotswap switches

[lethal wren]

the new ones are alright for basic tasks especially with linux

i have a n3160 chromebook and its enough for youtube and basic applications but nothing beyond that

good luck gaming on one

[dreamy rose]

they do that okay at best. your best off using Athlon instead.

[lethal wren]

yeah the gpu is going to be a lot better on an AMD

[night heron]

at that low budget you’re better off going used

with an older intel i7 and nvidia gpu

[lethal wren]

or get a used thinkpad

for a bit more than a celeron laptop you can get a t480 here

[dreamy rose]

what if you want something small that can still game? hey RDNA 2 is here may as well use it right.

[night heron]

yeah nobody is having a good gaming experience on a $250 brand new athlon laptop

[lethal wren]

those basic laptops are passively cooled though so they run silent

[night heron]

i wanted a m1 macbook air for a little while but decided against it

[lethal wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiPCMMv7JBo

they seem ok for older games/emulation

[dreamy rose]

i never said High Refresh rate 4K Spiderman. manage your expectations and you'll have a decent time.

[lethal wren]

they should be enough for minecraft or roblox

i used to play mario kart double dash on my a4-6210 all in one

ran at about 45fps so i used the pal version as its limited to 50fps instead of 60

[night heron]

it’s just a bad recommendation

[dreamy rose]

that's not an Athlon but yeah it works. still waiting to see the Athlon 7220U in the real world.

[night heron]

i would never recommend anyone buy a celeron/pentium/athlon machine because they’re practically e waste straight out of the factory

at the lower budgets going used is so much better

[lethal wren]

my parents dont like buying used electronics what about in that situation

used can get you a really good deal but i can see why these cheap laptops exist

[dreamy rose]

never recommended them to anyone, just that they are decent now RDNA 2 has been slapped on. gaming Chromebook anyone?

[lethal wren]

they are enough for what they are made for (basic tasks, office)

[dreamy rose]

my dolphin always runs slower than that yet i'm on an i5 2450M and a GT540M.

[night heron]

hardware from the dark ages

[dreamy rose]

does it really make sense? no. but does it based on my experiences? yes

[dreamy rose]

"you guys wanna go back to the Dungeons And Dragons days?"-Joel

[full fossil]

we do not speak of those times

[slate wing]

Chromebook gaming is a joke.
Just get a renewed thin and light and put Linux on it.

[dreamy rose]

its the same thing really

[slate wing]

It's not. Debian sucks.

[dreamy rose]

ChromeOS is Gentoo

[slate wing]

Wut

[dreamy rose]

i thought we all knew this. ChromeOS is built on Gentoo

[slate wing]

Chrome os is Gentoo based but the environment you can install is debian unless they changed it to full gentoo

Which is kinda dumb

[dreamy rose]

yeah ironically the most usable distro is the most advanced

[slate wing]

Gentoo isn't unstable and neither is arch. I wish people would stop saying so

[dreamy rose]

Jesus, i love linux and Admit its not 100% perfect.

[lucid echo]

Arch is stable until it's not

[dreamy rose]

*Stable until user downloads a million Desktop tweaks

[junior tide]

me:
xorg breaks
💀

i can fix any problem im having but when xorg breaks i just redo the installation

because fuck fixing xorg

[dreamy rose]

All these Docks and floating panels. top bars and High refresh rate Animated backgrounds, yeah bound to be a bit fuckin unstable don't ya think?

[junior tide]

oh, there is also the fact that i cant use my type c displayport of my laptop because its connected directly to the dgpu which is nvidia

[dreamy rose]

a lot of cobbled together crap pmuch

[junior tide]

what animation

shits flat as it gets

well they did fix nvidia issue but type c port still fucky wucky

im not typing all this to shit on linux, i love it but there are minor inconveniences

[dreamy rose]

not talking about yours, talking about the average Arch desktop. frick if i know what it looks like

[junior tide]

ah, average ricer b like

[dreamy rose]

NGL if you like Docks, then get out. they just suck. the entire idea is to take up more screen, wtf

[junior tide]

dock bad

i like my screen space so thank you

[green coyote]

how do i close minecraft

[junior tide]

i use windows with nothing on my desktop, everything is tucked away into the start menu

[dreamy rose]

set your taskbar to 40 pixels and you are fine.

[junior tide]

desktop is for when im doing actual work

[lucid echo]

Hidden docks are a thing

The biggest issue is they default to the bottom, which ends up taking more screen space than if they were on the sides, cuz 16:9

[slate wing]

Sounds like a skill issue imo. The only issue I've ever had is grub updates which can be fixed by a hook or just switch to systemd boot if that's your init system

[full fossil]

hey, can anybody who knows their way around blender help me out a lil

[lucid echo]

Aha! You've activated my 'skill issue' trap card!

Technically no OS is unstable if you're experienced enough to mitigate it

[hearty spear]

Sanic, how are some people so good at answering questions with USELESS responses when asking for support?
I'd almost say it was on purpose some of the time.....

[slate wing]

I've tired to figure out another reason. Generally it's someone doing something they shouldn't or a "cursed" system which happens on all OS

Like, I have 3 arch systems, one of them is more then a year old at this point and they are all fine. Ones a fucking raspberry pi for christ sake

[hearty spear]

If "one year" is a benchmark for stability? Then windows is also generally really stable.

[lucid echo]

Where you're very experienced in something, it's easy to become blind to the difficulties of average users. Not just computers, but anything

[lucid echo]

It's a marvel, really

[limpid needle]

I can sit down in front of any KDE Plasma desktop and crash it within 15 minutes just by fiddling with desktop customization settings. Anyone who says it's stable just isn't trying to break it hard enough. 😉

[lucid echo]

God forbid if you tried to install it in a machine with a windows drive present

[small zephyr]

🤔 how are outemu switches?

[lucid echo]

I wish I could say the same

[hearty spear]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1463046-gpu-fans-stopped-spinning-after-installing-an-ssd-and-formatting-windows/#comment-15620825
This guy... I have no more fucking words.

[lucid echo]

That's the shiniest 1050 I've ever seen

Something about other EFI partitions being present during install, even if it's another drive entirely

After windows ran some updates my linux EFI just kicks me back to the BIOS. I can fix it, but it's just a pain

Same

I believe the trick is to have the windows drive physically removed

Maybe I reinstalled windows fresh after that? I can't remember

Regardless, "stable" is not a word I'd use to describe it

I'm so damn close to never touching it again. Once I get a working Star Citizen install & setup my cuda environment properly, I'm golden

[finite wigeon]

Hello

[echo ridge]

Skill issue

[full fossil]

i wonder if anyone else has overpowerd psus for their system

[full fossil]

never gonna happen

im on my 3rd character reset this year

[lucid echo]

Oh yeah? I haven't reset in years (aside from the server wipes of course)

There are plenty of linux players. There's an entire org of them. I just haven't gotten around to the necessary config changes to do it

[full fossil]

every time its happend i logged out in my ships bed and tried to log back in and i would get insta kick

[lucid echo]

I was gonna ask if you're bed logging lol

[full fossil]

so now all ships with beds are useless

[lucid echo]

They always were :P

Well, if you bed log in deep space, it works fine. Most of the issues come when you do it near stations/planets

[full fossil]

id like them to work so i dont have to spend 30 mins minm getting out of hurstons fkn atmosphere

[lucid echo]

I usually QT and stop mid-flight, cut engines and bed log. Done that dozens of times with no issues (a couple times I spawned at a station but never needed a reset)

[lucid echo]

Lmao every server wipe I fly my lightest ship to everus and just claim any big ships there

Though I really enjoy the slow parts, like long QT and atmo exits

[full fossil]

but i hate how long it takes

[lucid echo]

I love it :P

Adds to the scale and realism

[full fossil]

execpt the sheer amount of volumetric clouds there makes the frames go way down

[lucid echo]

Turn those off silly goose

[full fossil]

no, it adds to the scale and realism

[small zephyr]

🤔 well lets hope the 13$ outemu greens are better as generic red switches

[lucid echo]

Facts, that's why I tolerate it :)

[small zephyr]

i hate red mechanical switches lol

[lucid echo]

I've heard good things

[full fossil]

tbh 25fps in sc is alot smother than other games

[small zephyr]

doesnt matter what brand but reds alwazs feels so mushy

[lucid echo]

It's a sim, the MSFS2020 fans can attest to not needing many frames

[full fossil]

msfs is totally playable at 30

[small zephyr]

🤔 well i gues my purple wormir k61 with green switches will be nice well needa wait an monrth tho aliexpress lmao

[full fossil]

#peripherals !!!!

[lucid echo]

I'm just glad they're not bothering to optimize these systems that will soon be replaced anyways

[full fossil]

it is funni tho that the 5800x3d beats the 13900k and every new ryzen in sc

[lucid echo]

Cache do be like that

[small zephyr]

🤨 why is the german/european pc hardware and periphals market so bad sometimes

[lucid echo]

That's the case for quite a few games

[full fossil]

yeah sc does love its l3 cache

[lucid echo]

Are you in any SC orgs? I'm looking for a new one as my old one was.... toxic af

[full fossil]

not at the moment

rn im just exploring every system

i bought the game during invictus week

[lucid echo]

This year? Nice!

[full fossil]

ive done a few free flys before that

[lucid echo]

I got it in 2017... have more ships than I'd care to admit.. and not many ppl to crew them

Every org has like 15 carraks and 10 hammerheads so it's not even worth the trouble lmao

[full fossil]

hammerheads are over rated

they get 1'd by any ships that has a torpedo

[lucid echo]

Especially once the ship component damage comes into play, those things are gonna be sooo hard to maintain

[full fossil]

Is Java even worth keeping on the system anymore, or should I uninstall it?

[lucid echo]

Do you use it?

[full fossil]

Very rarely? I never notice it.

[lucid echo]

Ditch it, not like it's hard to get back

[full fossil]

Alright

[full fossil]

average based maple pfp take

[hearty spear]

OMG Sanic, the dude managed to fuck up pictures of the card AGAIN
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1463046-gpu-fans-stopped-spinning-after-installing-an-ssd-and-formatting-windows/#comment-15620828

[slate wing]

Windows would have given me at least a few BSOD at this point. Opening the Nvidia control panel alone should do the trick.

[gilded quest]

this was painful to read

[limpid needle]

Every time I'd had BSOD it's been a hardware or driver issue. Windows hasn't really done it "just because" for some time now.

I'd say probably from Vista onwards they really have been an indicator of "something is seriously wrong."

[slate wing]

But yet most of this information it commonly available, people just refuse to use it. I in one instance gave a person a link to a short arch wiki page that should have fixed their issues but they instead use stack exchange.

I've also asked users why they were using x before and got "non answers".

More then 30% of the BSOD on vista were Nvidia drivers and major of them were drivers in general.
All OS are surprisingly stable it just so happens all the shitty drivers are on windows.

Why? Because most of them are baked into the kernel on Mac and Linux and or are FOSS.

[limpid needle]

Coming back to Linux after a decade, the information was readily available, but I had no idea what anything I needed to look up was actually called anymore. And that's with a years of experience with Mandrake/Red Hat/Debian back in the day.

[slate wing]

The only real issues with vista was security issues which was mostly a non issue and needing admin for everything

[limpid needle]

Nowadays Windows just reboots the display subsystem with a graphics driver crashes. It can happen during games, and all that happens is that the display blinks for a second. It's an incredible bit of engineering.

[slate wing]

That's only for user land stuff right?

[lucid echo]

I think you may be confusing "Refuse to use it" and "Have more important things to do with their time"

Most people just want a system that works without tinkering, and would rather do something other than read wiki's and learn CLI

[slate wing]

Use Mac then I guess

[lucid echo]

It's almost like every OS has pros and cons, and the best choice for any user depends on their needs and wants

[hollow zealot]

Imo no singular OS is a catch-all

[cobalt aurora]

Oh god, TempleOS lol

Given a QHD monitor and an RX470, what preset would peeps here suggest running FO3 on? And/or maybe specific shit that needs to get turned off? (just grabbed it finally where it was free on the Epic store) nvm, fixed the screen tearing I was getting just dropping down to 1 screen

[lucid echo]

TempleOS is objectively the most stable and user-friendly system. There is no reason to use anything else.

[mighty grotto]

windows is templeOS but nobody realizes it

powershell is holyC but with a funky syntax

[tired glade]

Don't touch that curse os

[lucid echo]

BSOD's are actually divine interventions from god

[median idol]

TempleOS is God's OS

[hollow zealot]

I personally prefer Windows Me

[lucid echo]

I take pride in knowing I'm the reason Linus got subjected to TempleOS

[mighty grotto]

oh you can't post images here lame

[hollow zealot]

If you go to LTX I hope you plan on bringing a device running it

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

Go get floatplane, you get embed :)

[slate wing]

I'll just use embed hacks to get av1 embeds thanks.

[leaden gale]

Bruh

[mighty grotto]

C:\> [System.DateTime]::Now
Monday, 24 October 2022 18:59:19
C:\> ([System.DateTime]::new(2022,12,24) - [System.DateTime]::Today).TotalDays
61

no i mean that powershell in windows literally does all the holyc stuff

you can just create classes and objects and run any code in the same terminal you use to browse files

[marsh mortar]

if I typed something in custom status will ppl know that im using spotify?

[mighty grotto]

it even exposes the registry as if it were a file system

[lucid echo]

I gave Anthony the idea via Floatplane

[lucid echo]

Gosh you're so cool

[leaden gale]

Yes and no. It'll continue to display your custom status message, but it'll show the Discord Rich Presence icon next to it, so if people open your profile, it'll then show what you're listening to on Spotify

[marsh mortar]

i mean it doesnt show "Lestining to Spotify" , so ppl will know?

[leaden gale]

People will only know if they choose to look at your Discord profile directly

[lucid echo]

You could just disconnect spotify

[marsh mortar]

usually ppl click on profile a lot ?

[leaden gale]

Not unless they're looking at your bio for something they can use to insult you with

[lucid echo]

I look at people's profiles to make sure they're not complete idiots before engaging

[leaden gale]

@marsh mortar Here's my question then: do you or do you not want people to know you're actively using Spotify?

[night heron]

yeah i want you to know that i’m listening to spotify

[marsh mortar]

i want them to know my activity that i am using spotify

[leaden gale]

Then just don't use a custom status message, so it'll always show Listening to Spotify when you're using it

[marsh mortar]

but i want to use custom status thats the problem

[leaden gale]

If you do use a custom status, the only indication that you're doing an activity of sorts is the Rich Presence icon, which looks like this:

[leaden gale]

Then too bad

What exactly is it that you want people to know: the fact that you're listening to Spotify, or the song you're listening to?

Because people always have to click on your profile to see what song you're listening to anyway

[marsh mortar]

that fact that im listening to spotify

[leaden gale]

Then don't use a custom status message

[marsh mortar]

ill think about it

thanks

[lilac sage]

remove spotify integration...

like unlink it from ur account

[lilac sage]

I wish I could embed stuff but go to the connections tab of ur settings in discord and look where it says spotify

[grim zodiac]

S n o w o n t h e b e a c h

[muted flame]

hello

why r there no emojiz

[leaden gale]

My brother in Christ, the individual WANTS people to see they're listening to Spotify, not the other way around

Which is why he's complaining that a custom status overrides Rich Presence statuses

[hollow zealot]

[leaden gale]

what

[muted flame]

emojis

server emojis

[hearty spear]

you don't have priviledges to send them in public.

[full fossil]

[muted flame]

where do i get the privilege?

how

[hollow zealot]

[obtuse spindle]

Hello, does anyone here also watch NetworkChuck?

[misty scarab]

SponsorBlock extension server's are offline for matinence so nobody could submit the segments for the new LTT video

I was forced to listen to origin pc

[misty scarab]

yeah why

[obtuse spindle]

What about Mosh?

[misty scarab]

nop

[fossil frost]

i feel that way about most people in general

[fluid ridge]

i just spam right arrow

sponsorblock seems nice but it's an overkill fix for a pretty trivial problem tbh

adblock + right arrow

[full fossil]

Trying to decide between the i9 and i7 for these new 13th gen CPUs, I noticed the base clocks on the i7 was higher than the i9. Generally speaking is the i7 a better purchase for single core speed performance?

[fossil frost]

buy an i7 unless you have a specific use case for the i9

[slate wing]

Half the time I'm not close enough to my PC and or phone and or I have something like wet hands.

It's also a set and forget. I personally don't feel bad doing it because I'm broke as fuck.

[hearty spear]

boo hoo?

[full fossil]

[lucid echo]

It's quite pleasant not having to deal with that right arrow, especially when I have picture-in-picture on firefox and am doing something else entirely

I have no guilt for using it, cuz Premium user

[tender glade]

wooo

finally discord has profile colors out

check mine out!

its pretty ehehehe

[fluid ridge]

how do you set those

[mighty grotto]

i can't save mine after changing

[fluid ridge]

do you need nitro 🗿

[mighty grotto]

tried browser and desktop

[tender glade]

of course you do

[mighty grotto]

did you manage to do it somehow? and on what platform

[visual fern]

[mighty grotto]

because my profile is brown now

[gilded quest]

is the color grey?

[mighty grotto]

but i can't change it away from brown

[gilded quest]

or is dark mode broken

[mighty grotto]

nah it's dark grey on light mode

[steep fox]

Does anyone play overwatch 2 often?

[gilded quest]

yes

[misty scarab]

adblock + sponsorblock is my setup lol

[cloud smelt]

ayo is ltt gonna review the 13700k? anybody knows?

[hollow citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zcCX7yyiz4&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

oh nvm you said the 13700

[steep fox]

What are your PC specifications?

[cloud smelt]

yea, seen this one but i'm surprised 13700 is not out yet

[hollow citrus]

yeah

ill probs upgrade my pc to it tho

im getting a shit ton of crashes right now so hopefully if i just keep throwing money at the problem it will solve itself

[gilded quest]

Desktop: 1080ti / 12700K
Laptop: 2060 Max Q / R9 4900HS

[steep fox]

Have you considered a 3060ti, 6700XT, 40 series cards for your desktop?

[gilded quest]

naw

[hollow citrus]

$1,500 in pc upgrades just so i can stop crashing

[gilded quest]

RX 7000 series (RDNA3) is likely my next upgrade

[steep fox]

If it works it works right

[steep fox]

Ah, I plan to benchmark those cards when they are released on my YT channel

[gilded quest]

but realistically, I can still max out my monitor in OW2 at native res high/epic details, so i'm technically good for another year or so

[hollow citrus]

A770 or 3060 ti

[gilded quest]

so i guess q3 2023 is probably when I'll look to upgrade

[steep fox]

Never even heard of the A770 bud lol

[hollow citrus]

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/intel-arc-a770-gpu

[steep fox]

If you ever need a performance review for those cards, feel free to follow my channel

[steep fox]

explains why I've never heard of it lol

[gilded quest]

yeah since I don't really play DX12 or RT games; there hasn't been a ton of need for me to upgrade

[steep fox]

Intel's marketing has been so poor for their GPU lineup

[wispy marsh]

I want a soft, warm, squishy, bouncy stress ball

Something that goes boing boing

[night heron]

there’s reviews for it

[gilded quest]

13700K wasn't part of the initial review embargo

[cloud smelt]

but not from ltt correct?

[hearty spear]

I don't think intel's after a huge user base this generration.
They're trying to work out issues now, and gen 2 will likely be significantly less buggy

[night heron]

yeah not from ltt

ltt doesn’t do the most thorough reviews anyway though

[hearty spear]

(And honestly, LTTs tech reviews on chips and stuff are okay at best.)

[night heron]

hardwareunboxed has a video on it

[hearty spear]

GN, HWUnboxed and some others do much better actual tech hardware reviews

I watch GN for actual information.
I watch LTT And J2C cuz they're fun.

[cloud smelt]

Oh, good to know thanks, i saw a few video titles like 13700k is the "better choice" hinting at 13900k so i thought ltt will jump on that in a similiar fashion

Time to watch those reviews then

[hearty spear]

The never-ending "Quest for More Subs" will invariably make a Tech Channel dumber.

[hearty spear]

The 900 series is (almost) NEVER a "smart" buy

The primary audience for the 12900KS / 13900K are idiots who want to brag about their hardware numbers on places like this.

We had a guy in here recently who swore up and down that he needed a "13900K and a 4090" so he could play "Microsoft Flight Sim"

[steep fox]

If they already have the minimum requirement for monetization I agree. After that point its just a pursuit for vanity

[hearty spear]

Small channels it doesn't apply to, it's the bigger ones.
Like GN has 2.Something Million subs, but he's not actively shilling for more subs, because he knows that most people won't listen to him spend 30 minutes talking about detailed hardware specs.

LTT is doing something weird, and it may work out for them with Labs.
Because the main channel is the "income" channel, and "Labs" will be the detail oriented one, with many fewer subs.

[night heron]

or someone who makes enough money to where the cost is nothing to them

[hearty spear]

But they're not the ones on discord asking if it's the right buy

[cloud smelt]

Well to be honest i was thinking of getting either the 7900 or 13900k before any was announced just for the fps boosts but after i saw the the temps i changed my mind

[night heron]

you can run the lower core count chips at a higher frequency and get the same fps

[cloud smelt]

Also i only bought the 3080 so 13700k will probably be a better fit anyway

[night heron]

if you’re willing to wait until early 2023 the ryzen 7800x3d will hold the gaming crown but it won’t be cheap

[hearty spear]

For gaming? The difference between a 7800x and a 7900x is minimal.

[night heron]

most likely $450 for just 8 cores

[hearty spear]

for a pretty penny, it ought to be baller

[night heron]

i’m debating buying one when it comes out

[full fossil]

7000$ 7800x3d

[hearty spear]

I'm not upgrading for a few years, as my 10850k is plenty fast for anything I'm doing still.
(I got it on a heavy discoutn from Microcenter, after 11th gen came out.)

Also, if you can wait a month or so, Ryzen 7000 is likely getting a price cut to be more competative with intel.

[full fossil]

Definitely

[cloud smelt]

I would but i'm kinda tired of waiting, and now cpus come out like every few months and each is a tiny bit better, i know x3d is gonna be nice but the who knows about the price + ddr5 + am5

[full fossil]

If amd price cuts enough, I’ll consider going amd

[cloud smelt]

Unless it goes down by 200€ i don't see it being a better buy

[tulip river]

yo i want like a 30in TV or monitor that i can power with 12v car power, is that a thing?

[cloud smelt]

What month do you recon 7...x3d will come out?

[night heron]

if you’re wanting to buy one right now the i5 13600k is fantastic

with a cheap b660 board and some ddr4

like $550 for a total platform with a 14 core cpu and 32gb of ram

[hearty spear]

TVs don't' take a ton of wattage, you should be able to run one off an inverter

but why do you want a 30" TV in a car?

[night heron]

i mean a tv might pull 120w which is 10a at 12v

[cloud smelt]

I already picked something like 13700k + asus z790a d4 + 32gb + 3080 is that a good combo?

[hearty spear]

(But realistically TVs made for campers / RVs exist, but they're probably more expensive due to what they're made for.)

[hearty spear]

unless you're planning on a lot of overcvlocking, Z790 is a waste of money

[night heron]

i would suggest a 13600k + b660 + 3090 over that combo

or a 3080Ti

[cloud smelt]

I already got a 3080 separately right when the msrp prices hit back a few months ago for a relatively good price so i didn't hesitate

[cloud smelt]

It's the D4 so a little bit cheaper but maybe i'll go for the same but Z690

[hearty spear]

Are you overclocking?

[cloud smelt]

No not really, at least up until now, i know Z is not the best pick unless OCing, but does it make sense to OC on a new 13700?

[hearty spear]

Opposite: Z690 is the only board that DOES allow overclocking.
So if you're not: Buy a cheaper chipset.

[cloud smelt]

the rest is same? like power delivery, vrms, features etc?

[hearty spear]

it varies board to board.
But realistically the more expensive boards have features that almost nobody needs most of

[cloud smelt]

It looks like asus maximus is like that f.e.

[hearty oyster]

In my experience, most real world uses of 900 series since they launched, are profession cinema production. Whenever I see active film sets in my city, fairly often through spring/summer, i try to chat up the av guys to see what they're using for their field gear. It's usually threadrippers or 900s

its rare i've found someone who uses one just for flexing. But that's my own anecdotes on that subject

[dry trellis]

Would anyone have any android discord clients they’d recommend

[gilded quest]

the official discord beta

[hearty oyster]

anything that isn't official is against discord's TOS iirc. Likely won't find any of that on play store.

[gilded quest]

android beta = all the bugs all the time

[dry trellis]

Frankly discords mobile client sucks ass

[gilded quest]

it does

[slate wing]

It's far worse on Android. God I remember the initial switch to react native.

[dry trellis]

Zenfone 9 just arrived today so will work on moving to it from my iPhone 12 mini

[slate wing]

I wish JS didn't exist because people keep putting it where it does not belong

[gilded quest]

react native can go get improved and less resource heavy plz

its gotten better since the initial switch, but its still buggy compared to the old android client

[dry trellis]

It’s fairly buggy on iPhone as well

[hearty oyster]

if it wasnt' JS and react, it would be some other megalithic library that allows degree mill "computer scientists" jump into a company's project without causing major issue

[dry trellis]

But it just feels like there’s missing features

[slate wing]

Or wasm.

[dry trellis]

Like favoriting gifs isn’t possible

[gilded quest]

i just want them to fix all the channels disappearing when i open the sidebar

or my cursor disappearing as i type

[dry trellis]

I have a lot of transparent images I share that end up not transparent after sharing. Though that could be the iPhone itself

[gilded quest]

sometimes the image selector is 5-wide and sometimes its 3-wide

on the same phone in portrait

[hearty oyster]

wasm will get it's own mega libraries like react before it see's widespread use. Degree mills can't train people on webasm as well, since that requires actual 1on1 instruction for passable students. They prefer mega libraries that are easily tested towards with open book rules. Passing grades are marketable

[dry trellis]

Bout to revance this when I get home it’ll be nice

[hearty oyster]

developers that are good at wasm won't be common

[slate wing]

Wasm is a magnitude faster so Frankly I don't care

[hearty oyster]

faster bugs are still bugs

[slate wing]

I don't care if there are bugs it's it's so slow I can't fucking use it

[hearty oyster]

rust development will likely be what takes the stage tbh

[slate wing]

rust is nice but it ain't replacing things like c for a while if ever

[hearty oyster]

tell that to linux 6.0 lol

rust compiled to wasm is where it will really shine. and drivers

[slate wing]

Rust replaces nothing in 6+. It's only a rewrite of existing c libs.

[hearty oyster]

You're going to see an acceleration of replacement as the foundations are cured out

[slate wing]

rust is a c++ replacment not c.

[tired glade]

let's way for that, before jumping on it

[rigid shadow]

40oz bottle worth it? I feel like based on dinensions its "just" too big to be comfy in like cup holders etc/unwieldy. Im deciding between the 40 and 21.

[tired glade]

do you drink 2L of water everyday?

[rigid shadow]

I have a roughly 24oz cup i refil throughout the day

[tired glade]

40 will take you like 2 day, give to take

so,maybe, you know it's like 2kg everywhere with you vs 1kg

[night heron]

dang i drink way more than that

i can easily drink 1-2 gallons if i have access to bottled water

[tired glade]

isn't that like 16L?

[night heron]

4.5-9 L

[lucid echo]

I have both the 40 and 21oz, and I use the 40oz way more often

[tired glade]

7,5, lol

a day?!

[night heron]

yah

i pee clear my man

[tired glade]

poor kidneys

[night heron]

eh theyll be ight

i usually have a bottle of water when i first wake up, one when i get to work, one while im working before lunch, one during lunch, and i sip one or two after lunch before i go home

not including any i have after i get home

each bottle is 0.5L

[tired glade]

I barely drink at all, just have wet food with every meal

[full fossil]

huh? it is

[cloud smelt]

The review for 13700, from LTT

[full fossil]

ohh ya I don't get why no one does reviews of it

I guess it is the middle child lmao

[cloud smelt]

The few titles i saw were praising it so double surprised there 😄

[tired glade]

yea, i7 isn't really popular

[slate wing]

I own a i7

[full fossil]

would a 13700kf bottlenck a 4090 ?

I mean ofc it would but how much

[night heron]

depends what resolution and frame rate you’re trying to get

[full fossil]

240hz 1440p

[slate wing]

Depends on what resolution and settings. If you are going 4k then even a 13600 is fine

[tired glade]

are you sure you want to play at 1080p with 4090?

[cloud smelt]

nah it wont?

[night heron]

yeah you’ll be cpu bottlenecked in some games but there’s no better cpu options just yet so it is what it is

most games you’ll be able to hit 240 though

[full fossil]

all*

i dont really wanna go all out on the cpu nd buy a 13900

[tired glade]

all AAA games or indi games?

[night heron]

wrong

[full fossil]

sorry, all of the ones I play

[tired glade]

don't worry, cs will hit 240fps

[night heron]

if you already knew you’d be fine with the games you play then why ask

purchase validation?

i play at 1440p240hz as well and i’m waiting for the 7800x3d

[tired glade]

so, what's games?

[full fossil]

I just wonder how bad the bottleneck is

[cloud smelt]

OT 14th chips will get a new socket?

[full fossil]

idk some competitive stuff not really the main reason im buying this pc though

[night heron]

it’s rumored that there will be several models with extra cache so maybe

[full fossil]

yes

[night heron]

yeah new socket, they’re moving from 10nm (equivalent to tsmc 7nm) to tsmc equivalent 5nm+

[tired glade]

you know, most e-sport games works on igpu with 100+ fps?

[night heron]

with 14th gen

15th gen is supposed to be equivalent to 3nm and uses the same socket as 14th

[tired glade]

14 is second half of 2023

[full fossil]

not really the main reason im buying this pc though

[slate wing]

huge l3 is nice but i would like to see bigger l2 and l1.

[tired glade]

Love lake Quadra should be in a month

wait, is it Love lake or Lovelake?

oh, it's Lovelace

[cloud smelt]

a month?

[tired glade]

if Nvidia will do it like with Ampere

[dry trellis]

I want to see someone make a game of life clone that uses as much resources as possible. Trying to be as unoptimized as possible

Will only run on 4090 unoptimized

[tired glade]

so, how much that game would sell if people hate Star citizens model?

[dry trellis]

But make everything it does actually important. Not useless functions

[night heron]

id rather see someone make a game that’s well optimized but hard to run

[slate wing]

int main() {
    for (;;) {
        malloc(99999);
    }
    return 0;
}

so factorio/doom?

[tired glade]

you can short it

[slate wing]

its c i could make it one line if i damn well pleased.

[tired glade]

haha

[lucid echo]

At work we get PRs declined if we oneline anything

[tired glade]

how many threads factory use?

[slate wing]

I mean yeah not everything needs to be one line but sometimes its better.

[tired glade]

if it works, it's works

[slate wing]

factorio used to be like 2-4 threads but it might be diffrent now

[lucid echo]

In prod environments, makes error reporting 10x more opaque

Our company's custom linter also has some rudimentary oneline checks to stop it from even committing to the branch

[tired glade]

still limited to 4

[lucid echo]

Open the same 100GB file to memory on X number of threads

[slate wing]

they could probably make it use more but it for sure would increase source complexity, require a rework, and hurt performance per instruction.
Scaling over servers is much more efficent lol

[tired glade]

oh,right, 7000 is way faster in factorio

[slate wing]

bigger cache and better clocks helps it a lot yes

[tired glade]

game still limited to 4 cores

[slate wing]

altho the average person wont get to the megabase sizes required to start droping ups

[tired glade]

I guess, game doesn't know what's e-core

[slate wing]

Its complicated

[rigid shadow]

Okay then, for those that have 40oz bottle. Do you have any issues fitting it places? Like backpack pouch, cup holders etc? And is it too big to carry around?

[tired glade]

it's way worse than complicated

[slate wing]

wdym?

[tired glade]

Hybrid design can make way too much problems to table and need consistent work

[slate wing]

for the schedule and kernel devs yeah but you dont need to design your software around it at all as a developer

either your application threads or it does not.

You could do meta optimizations like avoding context switching and the like i guess but there are more important opts you could make first

[indigo ibex]

kek

[full fossil]

So I noticed the 13th gen i9 boosts to 5.8 while the i7 boosts to 5.4 ghz, but the base clocks are higher with the i7. For workloads that prioritize base clock speeds the i7 is the better bet or the i9 with the boost that it can reach?

[tired glade]

i9 use better silicon

[slate wing]

For workloads that prioritize base clock speeds
What does this mean. base clock is a arbitrary number that your cpu is guarenteed to run at.

[full fossil]

where the core speeds is more important than core counts.

particularly with CAD and things of that nature

[tired glade]

hope that load not cache depended

[full fossil]

not the rendering side of things

[slate wing]

your cpu is almost never going to be running at base clock while you are running something like cad
Its irrelevant

[full fossil]

thats why i was wondering if the boost in the i9 would make it the ideal choice

[tired glade]

isn't 7000 boosted pretty high even with cad?

[full fossil]

im essentially just stuck between the i9 vs the i7.

might just say whatever and go all in with the i9, only 200 bucks more

[tired glade]

i9 is 300-350w cpu,don't forget

you will need to upgrade cooling over i7

[slate wing]

you can limit current a bit and still get pretty damn good performance. Most mobos just redline them stock

[full fossil]

ill be doing a custom loop

[tired glade]

oh, cooling not a problem

[full fossil]

i havent done a proper build since skylake, i figure 13th gen is the ideal time to upgrade.

[tired glade]

yea, go with i9

[full fossil]

gonna go all out on everything.

[slate wing]

if this is a new build.... i wouldnt go intel
its a dead platform

[tired glade]

is 13 gen endlessly boosts?

[full fossil]

but i am juggling the idea of doing a micro ATX or mini ITX build.

which is going to be tough to stuff a custom loop into a case like that.

but i kinda like the challenge.

[tired glade]

7950x under custom loop should be faster than13900

[cloud smelt]

i'm contemplating building a 13700k Z690/Z790 + 3080 now or waiting for new socket but new stuff will keep coming out anyway and 4k 144hz is gonna take a while to go mainstream to go all out on the build

[tired glade]

oc board?

[cloud smelt]

bad choice?

[tired glade]

pointless choice for 4k

but if you want put pc together and forget, it's just best choice

[cloud smelt]

nah i have 2k 144hz so that's what i'm aiming for, for 4k 144hz i'd need to go for 3090 or 4090 no?

[tired glade]

3090 is like 2-3times cheaper for about 50% less frames

it's your money situation

[night heron]

3080/6900xt at minimum for 4k 144 in brand new not-esport games

i say this as someone who used a 6900xt for 4k before i went back to 1440p

it all depends on what you play though

[cloud smelt]

i'm not gonna upgrade regularly, i usually do a whole new setup that's why im thinking of going 13700k + z690 + ddr4 route since i already have a 3080 (i got one once they restocked at msrp for a while) and next upgrade is gonna be a new socket anyway = new build

[tired glade]

3080 to 3090 not big jump

[cloud smelt]

i got 2x 2k 144hz monitors some time ago since 4k 144hz was non existent basically and now it's still expensive

[tired glade]

wait for AMD released and guess if there will be 4090 ti

[cloud smelt]

if i have 3080 bought, what would you build around it?

[night heron]

13600k+b660+ddr4

[tired glade]

13gen best for buck, 5800x3d best for last gen

[ocean pawn]

I've got a 3060 Ti and I'm running 2k on games. Works fine. Paired with a 5600x

[tired glade]

7000 for support until 2026

[cloud smelt]

i dont even wanna go 4090 route cause it's too expensive, i feel like i won't play 4k 144hz new games so feels like a waste

[vapid smelt]

1080p is closer to "2k" then 1440p

[ocean pawn]

I've had that debate with aldonist

[tired glade]

don't upgrade now then

[ocean pawn]

Still don't know what the difference really is

[cloud smelt]

singleplayer, some fps, nothing crazy fps bound like cs go or such

[tired glade]

3080 can handle that at 4k

[cloud smelt]

I'm building a new PC, not upgrading.. actually i have intel 2500k now 🙂 so need to build a new pc to be able to play anything

[tired glade]

13 gen for best for$, 7000 for support until 2026

[cloud smelt]

so if i stick with 3080 for a few years, its enough to go with 13700k and b660 and ddr4?

[tired glade]

yes

[cloud smelt]

i don't think i'll update sooner than 4 years anyway so intel is fine and then i can go ryzen 10000 or intel 20000 😄

[tired glade]

that will be ddr6 platform anyway

[cloud smelt]

yea, that's crazy

[tired glade]

AMD is good now, not like it was in 2500k era

[cloud smelt]

2k 144hz even?

[cloud smelt]

yea of course, the 7000 was my first choice before 13th gen reviews and prices, i was almost sure i will go amd

[tired glade]

7000 isn't bad, let's say it like that

and 3d refresh already on horizen if you want to just have plug and play

[dawn crown]

Windows Dev Kit 2023 looks cool.

32 GB RAM, strong CPU, Win 11 pro included... for $600. Only thing it's missing is 5G.

[tired glade]

and -100w too

[tired glade]

that like 6 hours old news

and you forgot - it's arm

[dawn crown]

You mean the undisputed future of computing?

Talk about future proofing

[ocean pawn]

My monitor is actually 165hz

[tired glade]

RISC-V still there

[dawn crown]

ARM for the win

[tired glade]

and there are sights that Intel and AMD will jump to it

[dawn crown]

Windows 11 from my phone when

[tired glade]

ask Google that

and I am not about search engine

[dawn crown]

Screw Samsung DeX let's put a hypervisor on the premium flagships like my S22 Ultra and have full Windows 11 when you dock

[tired glade]

Samsung will be so sad

[dawn crown]

Would be extra nice if you had the option to let it run in the bg on the go, sure battery life will suffer but your work on the PC OS can keep churning

[cloud smelt]

Hear me out, windows os on phones

They should jump on that asap

[charred dragon]

can someone help me with BSoD?

[tired glade]

good old 2009

[vapid smelt]

we have a #1027757333117415424

[charred dragon]

Thanks but no one seems to be able to help there. Thank u though

[cloud smelt]

Dumb question but did you google the error code?

[dawn crown]

Did you try LTT Forums?

[charred dragon]

Yeah

[charred dragon]

Yep

[dawn crown]

Reddit

[charred dragon]

Reddit too. No Anwers

I just get this BSoD for no reason

[dawn crown]

Discord server just for the type of thing you're doing

[charred dragon]

Sometimes i can game for hours and sometimes the PC crashes on Boot

[cloud smelt]

And what's the code?

[dawn crown]

Idk what BSoD is but like, right now I'm setting up a home PBX. I would not ask for help here. I joined a PBX server.

[charred dragon]

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

[charred dragon]

This is the code

[vapid smelt]

this isnt #1027757333117415424

[charred dragon]

Tech support says we can't have discusssion there?

[dawn crown]

Oh, well your PFN is corrupted

[charred dragon]

Yeah, no i Formatted Both SSD and HDD

[cloud smelt]

Are you on the latest windows updates?

[dawn crown]

Maybe you are getting an error because of something else and it just doesn't have a message for the real error

[charred dragon]

Yep

[dawn crown]

It's also possible you pissed off a tech nerd spirit and it's haunting you now

[charred dragon]

It started happening since I upgraded from 1650 to 3060

[charred dragon]

Not helping here🥹

I spent my first ever Paycheck for that GPU only to meet this

[dawn crown]

First ever paycheck

What did you do to earn it?

[charred dragon]

HR Executive

[dawn crown]

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHByReaiJ4o some of the ltt staff have nasty setups

[charred dragon]

Yes I watched this🤣I loved how there worst setups are better than my best🥹

[dawn crown]

They better not see any of mine then

[charred dragon]

Memtest gave errors in Test 13...what is that

[cloud smelt]

Idk but did you try swaping rams?

[vapid smelt]

i think with all the monitors in the video combined they have as many as you

[dawn crown]

Maybe. But that's my main PC, I have other set ups around the house.

[charred dragon]

Don't have more than 2

[vapid smelt]

soon sugar will have this setup

[cloud smelt]

Well one of them may be faulty, so try with 1 and run memtest, how often do you get the bsod?

[charred dragon]

1-2 times a day

[vapid smelt]

rx 580

[tired glade]

How much 5500 right now?

[vapid smelt]

140 ish

[tired glade]

Still terrible deal

[vapid smelt]

rx 590 are also around 140

[lusty kiln]

The roasting employee set ups video is the perfect case of “don’t meet your heroes” at least for me

[limpid needle]

One of the previous roast videos had Linus going off on how awful it was that a setup had a single visible umbilical cord coming off it. The setup in question was a standing desk. Our heroes are definitely not perfect. 😆

[dusky patrol]

So has anyone bought the backpack?

[finite cloud]

A few thousand people have

[vapid smelt]

what backpack?

[dusky patrol]

Can someone tell me if it's worth it? Would they except suggestions?

[queen stone]

Linus can't count to 5

Look in off-topic for clarification

[vapid smelt]

lies, fake news,defamation

[proud stump]

Does anyone knows how to fix fortnite crashing after 20 minuets every time I've reinstalled windows updated my drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled it any one know how to fix it?

[vapid smelt]

if you dont play the bad game it will never crash

[proud stump]

lol but seriously anyone know how to fix it

[vapid smelt]

idk this isnt #1027757333117415424

[fossil frost]

spent a full evening trying to work out why my WS2812B addressable RGB LEDs... dont do anything other than display green, all the time... never thought to think that the seller on aliexpress sent me the wrong thing... yes still rgb LEDs, but not addressable... they have individual R, G and B pins, with no muxing... and about 10% of the price.... fuckers...

[vapid smelt]

just dont buy rgb and not have that problem ez

[fossil frost]

its not PC rgb... its through hole LEDs for soldering to a PCB

[polar fern]

i can recomend this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PNL5STG?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

worked really great

best part is the paw is the charge level indicator

[finite cloud]

That alone is worth it

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp7pXJoQNoA wtf

[jovial depot]

bro. Last year in 10th grade, My English teacher was Pakistani and she told us that she was married too her cousin and has 2 kids 💀 💀 💀
they even have grandchildren 💀

[vapid smelt]

cool

[violet wagon]

💀💀

[spice haven]

guys i just bought a new graphics card

[violet wagon]

Which one?

[spice haven]

i got an rx 470

i traded it for a gtx 960 plus 30 bucks

[sonic spruce]

@spice haven can I buy your 1650 super?

[spice haven]

what?

but ya i thought i got myself a good deal now that the gpu market has cooled down

[full fossil]

Buildin' 1000 dollar pc

[night heron]

[full fossil]

I mean its alright

Its good for gaming

[near nebula]

and infra-red on some models too, as in proper remote usage from an old phone!

[plain spruce]

Guys

Be very careful installing msi afterburner for gpus

i almost just installed a fraud one oml

Gave me a heart attack when i realized i had just seen a tiktok warning me abt that

[near nebula]

only get it from the official MSI site. anywhere else and ...yeah might be asking for it

should bundle with RivaTuna if it's official

[plain spruce]

Yea

I got the right one then

[molten drift]

Only on YouTube... Can you watch a Florida man fuel a car using a bucket of brake.clean... and run it on a Dyno.

[near nebula]

Sounds like some "life hack" on Tiktok as well

[molten drift]

Cleetus McFarland on YouTube

[ripe patrol]

Anyone good at arguing warranty with logitech?

mouse's scroll wheel has gone fucky... Issue is - they're saying I'll have to wait for the mid-grey replacement (I paid more to not have the black on black plain version). All they have "stock" of - is the black on black. Yet they're still listing the other colors for sale new in their own amazon web store...

? Kinda the principle argument; paid more to not have the melted black plastic look. Now you're saying if I want it replaced I have to take the cheap version...

[vapid smelt]

first world problems

[ripe patrol]

yep - no argument but why charge for non-black if you're not going to send only black as replacements?

Frick i'd just be happy if they sent a new scroll wheel

[lucid cove]

me holding the urge not to send the 13gb 4k morbius fit inside a discord embed

[slate wing]

I was gonna do that but aparently thats "piracy" and "illegal"

I just wanna morb man

[lucid cove]

this is the same server where an informaous dude said adblockers are piracy, literally 1984 😔

[near nebula]

...hmm, grey area...

[lucid cove]

no the grey areas are those 50mb discord movies

[near nebula]

I mean it's better than putting the entire Shrek movie on bootup of the SteamDeck

[slate wing]

Na, your name looks pretty damn good even at 50MB. Unless you use a hardware encoder

oh yeah someone should redo 8MB shrek, its almost watchable now

[vapid smelt]

just use dlss

[slate wing]

why when upscaling is built into the av1 spec?

[vapid smelt]

nerd

[slate wing]

It's useless anyways, less then a 1% efficiency gain.

[south stone]

So out of curiosity, why is there no 16 pin connectors?

Like we went from 6 to 8, why not a 16 pin connector?

So you can 16 pin + 8 , or 1 x 16 pin.

(Coming out of 2x8 from the psu, clearly)

[austere jolt]

anyone hear about 4090 connector melting ?

💀

[south stone]

Im watching j2c video right now, and was wondering about that shitty pin

[slate wing]

Ive posted buildzoids comentary on it already and people talked about it in other channels.
there is no real way to fix it without a new card revision.

[south stone]

For the record, didn't say "go F-word", i said "F-word nvidia".

[austere jolt]

so it is true ? holy

[south stone]

They are saying the weight of the horizontal mount weight

(remember, cable THEY supplied....) put some strain on the connector and forced less contact between pins.

[slate wing]

https://nitter.qwik.space/Buildzoid1/status/1584474938131369984

Nvidia is just sweeping power draw issues under the rug it seems.
According to them we are "using it wrong".

[slate wing]

because you can just have 2 8 pins beside each other. there is no point in making a dedicated plug for it as it limits your options for power pins.

[south stone]

Fair

[austere jolt]

i assume this is going to spread around

when did this news come about ?

[south stone]

Like wildfire for sure.

It popped all over youtube today.

[austere jolt]

Nvidia is fk'd xD

[slate wing]

This was already a issue with rtx 3k.
it just wasnt this bad.

[austere jolt]

and whoever approved that connector style = doom.

[south stone]

I have a very silly question

Why did they made the 12 pin cable SO SHORT

Why not manufacture something that hooks to the card, but goes all the way to the power supply, THEN splits?

[austere jolt]

Probably inspired by Apple

[south stone]

I don't think they really want to save some cents on the copper....

[slate wing]

Aesthetics. it serves no pratical use.

[south stone]

What i mean is

You have 4 8 pin connectors that are HEAVY, putting strain on the connector on the card.

Refrain to #tech-chat-1

[vapid smelt]

well you dont need all 4

[austere jolt]

why tech > ? still related to PC

[south stone]

Posted a pic, sorry 😛

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-sebastian-ltt-twch-tips-gif-20475951

[austere jolt]

Mutahar is gonna go ham on this

https://tenor.com/view/mutahar-smile-gif-17943084

[copper lake]

Do yall think amd is going to drop their prices on their cpus in response to kind of getting crushed by intel this gen?

[vapid smelt]

would be nice to see a $180 r5 7600x

[south stone]

It's the boards that need a price cut, not the cpus

[vapid smelt]

cpus are way expenisve

[vapid smelt]

the $309 i5 13600k beats the $399 r7 7700x and it kills the $299 r5 7600x for just $9 more

[slate wing]

Cinebench can flex the extra e cores on the 13600k. dont expect it to scale to all apps.
the 13600k is a 14 core cpu

[south stone]

Doesn't it chew like 120w more?

[vapid smelt]

not much more then a r7 7700x

13watts

[near nebula]

in between the 7700X and 7900X

[slate wing]

if intel replaced the 6 p cores in the 13600k with another what 12 e cores it would be a monster of a compute cpu.

[near nebula]

which they could with Gen 14

[slate wing]

they could do it this generation

e cores are more efficent ratio of die space to compute and they do have the IPC advantage rn iirc. they could easily make up the clock difference

[south stone]

I mean, its valid

[slate wing]

POV ur compiling gentoo on a 20 e core intel cpu you bought for 250 usd

[south stone]

But if I ask you: Back then, knowing how the platform (am4) behaved. Would you have bought a 9700k, or a 2700x with a b450 motherboard?

[slate wing]

the 9700k because a large chunk of b450 mobo either didnt get the micro code update or just died

you can not have zen 1-3 support on the same mobo either, only zen1/2 or zen2/3 at the same time

[south stone]

I dont remember the high end 450 chipset name

Was it x450?

[vapid smelt]

x470

[south stone]

Oh sorry, alright.

In some sick way, motherboard manufacturers are right in charging premium

You probably won't change motherboards till the end of the line.

We're getting... 3 generations on am5 right? 7x00, 8x00, 9x00.

[vapid smelt]

amd would have to offer am4 level of cpu support and a huge discount on ryzen 7000 for me to even think about buying into it over 13th gen

[slate wing]

That's if you already own the platform. 13th gen is on a dead platform.

[vapid smelt]

im still happy with my 5600x

[amber quest]

I3-12100f or ryzen 5 5600x

[vapid smelt]

why not a i5 12400f?

[amber quest]

Sure, that is fine as well

[slate wing]

Probably cant find a setup with avx-512 now which is sad.

[lilac sage]

from what I heard Intel's AVX 512 implementation sucked anyway

[slate wing]

AVX512 is impractical on modern CPUs in the first place.

Iirc AMD does not have a "real" implementation. They instead run it in two clock cycles. You still get a speed up tho because of the instructions added in avx512.

[granite finch]

can someone help me with my powerA XBOX controller not being reconized on my pc

[slate wing]

For example, 512 adds support for bfloat16 which is not only one of the few cases of x86 supporting float16 but speeds up ML significantly

[vapid smelt]

we charge $25 per hour for #1027757333117415424 related questions inside #public-chat

[granite finch]

lol

[hearty spear]

So I've determined that at the next LTT LAN party? They need to hands-down have everyone turn their mousepads vertically just to piss off Linus.

[granite finch]

ur funyy

[hearty spear]

(I can only imagine the meltdown when someone turns a LTT Deskpad vertically for the memes at the LAN and he sees it)

[vapid smelt]

do you want to get kicked out ? 😛

[hearty spear]

I make LUKE look short, nevermind the little guy!

[vapid smelt]

but your tall and skinny right?

[hearty spear]

I haven't been skinny in nearly 20 years

I'm a bit over 2M Tall (6'7") and a good bit past 300lbs

[woven saddle]

Will lttstore ever make things like fans in the future?

[hearty spear]

Linus would be, like, the size of my right leg or something

[hearty spear]

I doubt it. It's not a market worth the fight, when they can just partner with /good/ existing brands they like working with.

[woven saddle]

Thanks for the answer, I would assume it's hard to compete with established brands and the cheap Chinese ones

[hearty spear]

At high-end, people will pay for Lian Li and Noctua.
At the bargain end, a 5 pack of Arctic P120's are fucking amazing for 25$ (per 5 pack)

[woven saddle]

Any recommendations for budget rgb fans? I found some that are $50 for a 6 pack by a company called "EZDIY" but I'm not sure if they're that reliable.

[vapid smelt]

budget and rgb dont go together

[hearty spear]

They're better than you'd expect for the pricetag, but they're not "ARGB" they use a custom controller and a remote.

[woven saddle]

The ones I found are aurasync compatible with my motherboard

[hearty spear]

Arctic P12 ARGB are not that expensive, and are pretty good.
But... yeah, RGB Fans for controlled fans are pricey.

[hearty spear]

link?

[woven saddle]

https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Moonlight-10-Port-Motherboard-Computer/dp/B07XBSKTY6?ref_=ast_sto_dp

[hearty spear]

that's a new set, I haven't seen, so IDK

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-RGB-Pack/dp/B08Y8N5J89
These are the arctic RGB fans, they're solid, and very reasonably priced for most RGB fans.

[woven saddle]

I might buy those, not sure yet

[hearty spear]

check on YT for the EZDIY fans, they may have been reviewed

[woven saddle]

Alright 👍

[wraith sonnet]

Someone ordered it

[vapid smelt]

seems pretty small

[woven saddle]

Where is that? I'm curious

[wraith sonnet]

Itx + 4090

[vapid smelt]

ew ryzen 7000

[hearty spear]

so it's going in an MATX case? lolol

[wraith sonnet]

Worse

[hearty spear]

That'd be an matx case, bruh

[wraith sonnet]

It's going in a case that can have ITX on the very top

[vapid smelt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C2FB7D2?

[wraith sonnet]

ATX, but it can also support ATX+ITX in the same chassis

[granite finch]

can someone help me with my powerA controller not being reconized on my pc

[vapid smelt]

$25

[hearty spear]

that's ATX? jesus shit that card's insane

[vapid smelt]

why are they upsdiedown

[wraith sonnet]

It's also the smallest 4090 we carry

[granite finch]

WHERE DO I PAY

[vapid smelt]

floatplane.com or lttstore.com

[wraith sonnet]

I don't know the whole thing was built before I started working here

[wraith sonnet]

Windows store has the driver iirc

I used a powerA controller very briefly for Isaac before I got my series controller

[granite finch]

ISAAC?

[wraith sonnet]

Before anyone chimes in about that, I still PREFER the Steam controller, some games don't work with it.

[wraith sonnet]

The binding of

[vapid smelt]

wait you share abuilding with pc laptops corpate offices

[granite finch]

microsoft store?

[wraith sonnet]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/xbox-one-powera-controller-driver-fail-solved/5556e9ab-4d7b-4525-9dd9-c8803ba352e3

[wraith sonnet]

dm me

[wraith sonnet]

it used to be there I guess the app got pulled

[elfin python]

well my computer runs fine for now...
idk what was the trouble with black screens last night

oh well

[woven saddle]

With those cheap fans I'm seeing an alarming amount of reviews saying that the controller caught fire so I'm just not gonna deal with that

[vapid smelt]

fire is extra rgb

[woven saddle]

We get the color orange for free😲 🤯 🔥 💯 WE UP! ☝️

[wraith sonnet]

technically not incorrect, but rgb LED's fail to truly capture that spectrum fully

[tiny compass]

quite loud

[hearty spear]

huh? Arctic fans are quiet

[tiny compass]

i have the non rgb version

[wraith sonnet]

Noctua+Phanteks Halo's

[tiny compass]

its quite loud

[hearty spear]

then you either don't have PWM, or you have them configured wrong

[tiny compass]

they are the pwm ones but I probably dont have them configured right

[hearty spear]

I have 5 of them sitting at elbow''s distance from my chair, and I can barely hear them

[wraith sonnet]

speaking of my 6600's fans keep going berserk

[hearty spear]

Are they plugged into your mobo's fan headers, or into SATA adapters?

[vapid smelt]

nocuta mod them

[wraith sonnet]

not yet

[hearty spear]

I'd say Arctic Mod, but same difference 😉

[wraith sonnet]

that's blasphemy in my sleeper

okay for some reason it keeps switching to the default preset in adrenalin rather than the quiet preset

[hearty spear]

Apparently Raijintek is releasing a new Morpheus, which will be compatible with current-gen GPUs

[wraith sonnet]

and now my UPS is the loudest part of my setup

[wraith sonnet]

tf does that mean

[hearty spear]

it means ur a scrub lol

[wraith sonnet]

oh shit this thing

[hearty spear]

https://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=46

that's the old edition, they're releasing a new one

[wraith sonnet]

yeah I'm just gonna add to cart

[hearty spear]

Don't buy the morpheus 2: There's no guartantee it works on a 6600

the 3 isn't out yet, but should be soon

[wraith sonnet]

Yeah I'll wait then

but I can't get this in my hands fast enough

I forgot they're these guys

pump in the hose

[hearty spear]

Check out their Eris Evo case.
More watercooling than even an overclocked 13900K and 4090 needs!

[vapid smelt]

blame asetek patent

[silent mist]

Is pairing a celeron g5920 with rtx 3090 ti and gigabyte 750w power supply good idea?

I seriously have no idea guys pls help

[vapid smelt]

gpu is not strong enough

[silent mist]

Oh do I need 4090

[vapid smelt]

yup

[silent mist]

Oh so celeron g5920 with rtx 4090

Is a good combination am I right?

[hearty spear]

cool, keep trolling.

[lilac sage]

i'd wait for the 5090. its faster than the 4090.

[silent mist]

Oh ok so pair the rtx 5090 with celeron g5920?

[vapid smelt]

5090ti*

[lilac sage]

ye. come back in 2024 when ur ready to buy

[silent mist]

With the gigabyte 750w v1 right the one that has explosive performance

[lilac sage]

well if it explodes get the PC insured

[woven saddle]

Wait for 2026 and 5090 will be cheap 🤯

[lilac sage]

true. but in 2027 the 6070 will release by then and be cheaper than a 5090

[woven saddle]

ok but let's talk about the future, 2028 is going to be the year

[lilac sage]

im not interested in the 7090. 16K gaming is a bit meh

[vapid smelt]

we will be alive in 2027?

[dreamy rose]

should come with its own PSU

[lilac sage]

damn I certainly hope so.

[vapid smelt]

well im getting close

[dreamy rose]

its An Inteleon Spy hired by intel to nuke AMD.

[silent mist]

Can't wait for the rtx 69420 super omega giga ti

[lilac sage]

ill be dead by then

[wraith sonnet]

hey I don't really want to drum this up again but doesn't lightning put mechanical strain on the device rather than the cable?

[dreamy rose]

who cares? they suck regardless of what they do

[wraith sonnet]

I don't really care enough as long as they ditch it

[dreamy rose]

they should have once USB C rolled around.

[wraith sonnet]

the money that MFi brings in is insane though

60b notably is what I believe would be the problem...

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

[dreamy rose]

they said it stops innovation, yeah bullshit. what stops innovation is no competition. like what Nvidia is doing.

[wind pulsar]

Lightning isn't even worth talking about, it's USB 2

[wraith sonnet]

honestly I prefer that usb c cables break this way

[vapid smelt]

never had a type c break on me

[wraith sonnet]

it's meant to break still

it has a finite life so that it doesn't break the port just the cable

meanwhile the lightning cable if you never put strain on anything other than the connector the phone would break first

[wind pulsar]

Yeah.. So are like 70% of other cable types

Just how it is, durability doesn't excuse shitty overall performance at extraordinarily high cost

[full fossil]

god this song is amazing

you're only allowed to listen to this if you blast it

80% or more only

[full fossil]

hi bronze

[wraith sonnet]

hello cheese

[full fossil]

[wraith sonnet]

https://open.spotify.com/album/5JhbhG3q21piSl2UIIlj86?si=S00OTloETXqfTaCRRISMQg here listen to the commentary track so you understand the significance of the main track.

[full fossil]

https://preview.redd.it/w987hra92sv91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f3fe98f430c1b81948c80c0c0cc357ed3af6848e "msi aio liquid after 7 months"

[wraith sonnet]

MSI aio's are trash and I keep bringing it up every time I get an order for a system with it.

[full fossil]

what do you mean order?

are you an aib?

[wraith sonnet]

I work for an SI

[full fossil]

ah okay

https://external-preview.redd.it/THCrx6JGQDEQwleGIqsROJiPINiXpuP_vZTWTZC9liA.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a6800b11c5420caf9559ac21db9e91d7f1f0b176

[wraith sonnet]

but since we have a lifetime warranty I don't feel too bad about it

[graceful jackal]

guys how do i disable modern standby in windows 11
ideapad flex 5

[vapid smelt]

Soda Inventer

[wraith sonnet]

fuck if I know, I just do WIN+R followed by "shutdown -s -t 0"