public-chat

[fossil frost]

leaving the EU all together was mainly down to racism too

[tired glade]

Yea, it's little bit more complicated than that

[slow thorn]

Membrain keyboards are fucking great for thinking once they are lubed

Like omg

[tired glade]

And EU or Europe?

[vapid smelt]

[fossil frost]

i live here, i experienced it all... it was racism.. weaponised racism...

[slow thorn]

Was that bad timing

[fossil frost]

EU, we can leave the union, we cant leave the continent, but i imagine there are some super-racists that are working on that

[tired glade]

I am off of this conversation

[vapid smelt]

im sure if you use enough boats and tnt you can move the island

[fossil frost]

wouldnt surprise me if boris johnson is trying to find dick dastardly right now to try and execute such a plan

[vapid smelt]

move your island to where its sunny

[tired glade]

Haha

[fossil frost]

we wouldnt like that

[tired glade]

But it not in Eu

[vapid smelt]

do you guess really like the cold damp depressing rain?

[fossil frost]

it would suck... the whole of the country is set up for weather than can be described as "meh"... if its any noticable amount either side of "meh", then we cant take it, because we arent set up for it being too cold, and we arent set up for it being too warm

[tired glade]

Is UK really that bad to continental Europe?

[fossil frost]

no not really, our weather patterns are very similar to northern France, and any other country on our latitude. its just that we have a small island, that is very hilly, so clouds dont have to travel very far to get pushed up by a natural barrier and become rain

cold-gloomy-shitty-uk-weather is a meme and it isnt really as bad as it gets described

[vapid smelt]

isnt most of the Uks beaches full of rocks and clifs?

[fossil frost]

no

[unborn flare]

yo

[fossil frost]

thats just a few small places, usually the places that end up on tv, or the famous places

[unborn flare]

sup chat

[tired glade]

There are houses in between, I guess

[fossil frost]

there are many many miles of sandy beaches all around the uk

[tired glade]

Evening

[unborn flare]

evening good sir

[fossil frost]

some beaches better than others.. and some... are designed in a way where they will just kill you

[unborn flare]

how have you been

[fossil frost]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morecambe_Bay_cockling_disaster like this place, less than a hour away from my house, less than 10 minutes away from my 2nd house

[tired glade]

Stressful,but productive, sir

[fossil frost]

whole beach/bay is a death trap... but its also just a public beach where you can walk your dog or your kids can play

[tired glade]

I need to visit the UK when it comes back to the EU

[fossil frost]

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2012/feb/24/tides-michael-marten-photography ffs... cant embed... but these tides are usually only a few hours apart from each other... 1 picture usually showing ground, and the other, death water and rocks

[hoary furnace]

heh

your best bet is scotland

[fossil frost]

theres no way that england, and the government, mainly based in england, is going to let scotland leave GB

[hoary furnace]

there's also no way we're going to rejoin the eu

[fossil frost]

noope

not unless you murder everyone over 45, and then re-run the whole brexit campaign again

i see other problems with that solution though

like where do i put all those bodies

[manic torrent]

The UK voted to destroy itself for the sake of nationalism/racism.

[fossil frost]

RACISTS in the uk voted to destroy the uk, for the sake of nationalism/racism

[hoary furnace]

not the first time or the last time

[unborn flare]

oh well average day for hardworkers

[hoary furnace]

there was a good caller into LBC recently who explained fairly well why the tory party wouldnt vote for rishi

[fossil frost]

given the list of very soft and stupid words that are banned by the LMG bot... im surprised racist and racism isnt on the list

[hoary furnace]

spoilers: || its because hes not white ||

[fossil frost]

thats why he didnt get voted in last time... they would rather an incompetent unqualified Instagram obsessed woman who would practically destroy the economy in just a few weeks... than somebody who isnt white

[hoary furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPYdzIt7p7s

[tired glade]

I know

[fossil frost]

johnson has ruled himself out btw... which im shocked at... im guessing he was voluntold to pull out (the only time hes ever pulled out of anything)

[manic torrent]

I mean, at least you're not italy and voted in a literal actual fascist

[hoary furnace]

Oh nice, i hadnt seen the news, i imagine he didnt get the 100

[fossil frost]

he got the 100, easily... but still pulled out

[tired glade]

It is not even at bold lvl

It will be funny next few years in EU

[fossil frost]

there is that, but italy do have a history of doing that... and they also have several... organisations... that have an interest in having certain people in power

[hoary furnace]

oh yeah, he got 102

[unborn flare]

political chat

[hoary furnace]

ye

[slow thorn]

So I lubed a keyboard with dish soap

And surprise surprise it no longer works

[full fossil]

yeah true, lmg bot is a bit of a pain in the ass

[slow thorn]

Any advice on how to fix?

[vapid smelt]

soap is used to strip things of grease/lube

[full fossil]

i remember trying to use the funny big northern country in a sentence

[full fossil]

my god

[ashen zodiac]

on what kind of planet does soap lube? soap removes lube and grease

no wonder it's broken

[full fossil]

[ashen zodiac]

you know when you scrub a greasy plate with soap, all the grease goes away? that's what you did to your keyboard

[slow thorn]

Listen

I did it for lols

did it on my MAIN FUCKING KEYBOARD

What the hell was I thinking

[ashen zodiac]

i don't understand that sentence

[full fossil]

before doing something, google it

[ashen zodiac]

what are you trying to say?

[full fossil]

there is always a dumbass who tried it before you

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n25ebE26e8 did you not see the commerical where dove uses dish soap to remove oil from ducks

[slow thorn]

I knew it would break

[full fossil]

ducc

[slow thorn]

I just wanted to do it to do it

[ashen zodiac]

then why do it? why intentionally break stuff?

kids these days i swear to god

[slow thorn]

Idk

I just did

[full fossil]

the irresistable urge to put fucking soap in my keyboard

[vapid smelt]

becuase the world needs more ewaste

[slow thorn]

Yes

But on the bright side

It thocks now

[full fossil]

true

[ashen zodiac]

[full fossil]

omw to launch a pollution movement

we will throw car batteries into seas to recharge the eels

[ashen zodiac]

you can be reasonable, and for example take the keycaps off a board and use soap to clean those, but @slow thorn did you actually put soap on the board and switches etc?

[vapid smelt]

wish.com is already doing it

[full fossil]

apple as well

[ashen zodiac]

oh here we go again, must apple be mentioned every 10 minutes? god

[sonic barn]

I hope apple dies

this decade

[full fossil]

we have to keep the hate up

because fuck apple, microsoft and nvidia

[sonic barn]

nah others are good

[ashen zodiac]

i'm sitting in front of a 10 year old macbook that still runs very smoothly, with decent battery life even tho the battery is original, you can say what you want about Apple but their products last literally decades. i have Mac's from the late 90's and early 2000's that still work just fine

[full fossil]

oh old ones are good

[ashen zodiac]

hell, i have an original 2006 MacBook that still works

battery and all

[full fossil]

new apple products are a middle finger to third party repair, privacy, ewaste reduction, security, and general freedom with devices

[ashen zodiac]

it's literally the most profitable company on earth

[full fossil]

old apple products were quality and cutting edge

[ashen zodiac]

except they aren't, and even the things that are bad that they do are similar levels of bad compared to the competition. try to fix a samsung fold, good luck with it

[vapid smelt]

apples soc is amazing

[ashen zodiac]

and they aren't now? the M1 and M2 cpu's are insane

[full fossil]

never said that others were good

and yet i cant even fix a non folding apple phone 💀

[full fossil]

and what was the price for those again?

[ashen zodiac]

skill issue then, that's not apple's fault

[manic torrent]

.... and it was capitalism all along

[full fossil]

not being able to fix a fold is also a skill issue then

[manic torrent]

apple is just doing capitalism "better"

[ashen zodiac]

the M1? like $800? i don't remember the M1 Mini launch price

[fossil frost]

this is the typical response to "this particular product or company does this thing wrong"... "ermm.. what? no... other companies do it too"... very typical politics style reply... no actual comment on the problem, just deflection onto somebody else

[full fossil]

too much for the performance tbh

apple also sucks with compatibility, but thats another topic

oh and using ARM instead of x86

[ashen zodiac]

bro... sure, you can outperform it quite easily. but not at the power consumption. which kinda matters for the earth

[manic torrent]

the perf-per-watt is quite literally unparalleled. Most people are not concerned about outright performance

[ashen zodiac]

this

[full fossil]

ill give apple that, good performance for power

but one question

why cant i use third party repair? why do they actively try to kill it?

[fossil frost]

thats not really apple's doing though is it? its the ARM architectures doing... with a bit of apple spit and polish on it

[ashen zodiac]

you were complaining about Apple polluting, they release an insanely efficient cpu, and then you complain it's not powerful enough. how can your demands ever be met?

[manic torrent]

because they are assholes, no question.

[full fossil]

i paid for the full gadget, why cant i own it?

[ashen zodiac]

you can?

[manic torrent]

it's not even close to that simple

[ashen zodiac]

if that's the case why can't anyone else make an M1 or M2 competitior?

[full fossil]

tfw fingerprints and faceid stop working after part replacement that isnt done by apple themselves

[full fossil]

because no one uses arm

[ashen zodiac]

GOOD, those are critical security features!

[full fossil]

its my device ffs

[fossil frost]

isnt it only apple that are a main stream desktop OS, who also fully control the hardware that OS runs on?

[full fossil]

i own it, and i get to choose what happens to it.

[fossil frost]

that might have something to do with it...

[full fossil]

not apple, not their officials

[ashen zodiac]

what if someone steals it? you'll likely be very happy that they can't just slap a tampered with id sensor on to bypass the lock

[full fossil]

me

[full fossil]

id rather have that instead of no third party repair

[manic torrent]

I love how all of these are simple issues for you

[ashen zodiac]

no, Microsoft makes hardware, and has an ARM version of Windows.

[manic torrent]

not at all nuanced, and there's no bigger picture

[full fossil]

dont tread on my right to repair ffs

[ashen zodiac]

you are in the vast minority. my phone has basically my life on it, keeping that secure is very important to me

[full fossil]

tfw apple calls 911 on a man in a rollercoaster because the phone thought its a car crash

[fossil frost]

if somebody steals my phone, or my laptop, or anything else, the basic pincode i have, and the encrypted storage, which comes with android by default, is plenty, and my ability remotely disable and wipe the phone... also plenty.. .and the IEMI will get added to a blocklist on all UK based network providers by the police too... so that phone turns into a worthless paperweight

[full fossil]

like dude, i dont need to be babysitted, i know my shit

[ashen zodiac]

again, good. wouldn't you rather it false positive on a fucking rollercoaster than not go off in an actual crash?

[manic torrent]

it really sounds like apple isn't for you

[fossil frost]

and apple/the cpu/anything at all, has nothing to do with that

[manic torrent]

now, I'm not defending them as such

[full fossil]

and i dont want apple having control over my device

[manic torrent]

but what you want isn't their thing

[ashen zodiac]

i'm not a dude

[full fossil]

dude is gender neutral

but sure

[manic torrent]

DUUUUUUDE

[full fossil]

what do i call you?

[fossil frost]

dude doesnt mean boy, its neutral, and synonymous for "friend"

[manic torrent]

haha no it isn't

[manic torrent]

like in australia, "mate" can mean anything

[fossil frost]

ok, CAN BE synonymous

[ashen zodiac]

girl? is that so difficult?

[full fossil]

eh, sure

[manic torrent]

old mate (who is neither old, nor your mate), your mate (who is not your mate), mate (who is your mate), mate (who is absolutely NOT your mate)

[full fossil]

i might say dude from habit, so pardon me if that happens

back to topic

apple babysits users

and violates privacy while doing that

thats an issue.

apple is a large contributor to ewaste

due to their policies on third party repair

[manic torrent]

all of these things are true

what is the root cause?

[sonic barn]

how many genders are there

[fossil frost]

people are stupid and believe anything they are spoon fed by advertisers?

[ashen zodiac]

sure. but you can't deny iPhones are more serious about security.

[manic torrent]

think bigger picture

[ashen zodiac]

i usually default to they/them if i'm not sure, which is most of the time online because everone has aliases

[sonic barn]

thing is android is open source and has different versions

[ashen zodiac]

source?

[manic torrent]

87% by variant or by numbers of phones in use? - Not that it isn't a big issue

[sonic barn]

so one phone can be different from another

[fossil frost]

insecure in what way? random number % with no substance behind it doesnt say anything

[ashen zodiac]

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/insecure-android-devices/10296/

[ashen zodiac]

article above ^

[sonic barn]

kapersky 🤮

[fossil frost]

look... ill do the same 100% of iPhone are insecure because there is no way to verify the alleged security

[manic torrent]

"analyzing over 20,000 smartphones by various vendors to discover that 87.7% of Android devices are susceptible to at least one critical vulnerability."

[sonic barn]

its their advertising

[vapid smelt]

xy xx

[ashen zodiac]

read the fucking article

[manic torrent]

so, basically that's useless garbage - I mean it's interesting, but it isn't representative of the real world

now, that said I absolutely agree that an iphone is generally more secure than a random android.

[ashen zodiac]

that's biological s.. not gender

[full fossil]

im back

sorry, phone died

[manic torrent]

and even then it's a bit iffy

[fossil frost]

"What is a bit unsettling about the research is the deliberate exclusion of Huawei, Lenovo, and Xiaomi smartphones, although these brands, according to IDC analytics, occupy the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th positions in the global best-selling rating for Android-smartphones."... results 100% invalid, if you exclude massive amounts of the best selling phones

[ashen zodiac]

do you have android? check what security patch it's on

[sonic barn]

android isn't secure because the user has access to the entire device, whereas for ios you have to jailbreak it else you are locked to the appstore

[fossil frost]

i can make all iphones look shit if i only include iphone 4's in my survey

[sonic barn]

there's certificates but they get revoked

[manic torrent]

I literally worked in cyber sec, and yes, my phone has the latest sec updates.

[vapid smelt]

if your device has facebook on it its not secure change my mind

[ashen zodiac]

do you have android? check if it's on the latest patch. 90% change it's not

[manic torrent]

wrong.

[sonic barn]

meanwhile me with a pixel

[ashen zodiac]

what brand is it?

[manic torrent]

motorola

[dreamy rose]

Hi back, yeah i have a Question. why do you hate printers? do they scare you or do they make you angry with how bad it is to print?

[ashen zodiac]

ah yea they are good with updates. they are a minority though

[full fossil]

fixing them is hell

[manic torrent]

do you NOT hate printers?!

[ashen zodiac]

let's also not forget that Apple supports iPhones for far longer than android makers support @manic torrent

[full fossil]

the day apple makes a printer i start a crusade

[dreamy rose]

i rarely ever have to print

[manic torrent]

oh, absolutely - the long support of iphones is excellent.

[fossil frost]

android 12, security update september 2022... october security update doesnt exist yet... so yes... latest

[manic torrent]

irrelevant

[ashen zodiac]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Dot_Matrix_Printer

[manic torrent]

oh, and that article about android security is from 2015.

[dreamy rose]

the majority of the issues are Paper Jams are they not?

[ashen zodiac]

that's a modern phone, not representative of the entire market

[manic torrent]

So as much as yes, it's a concern, lots of things have changed since 2015

[full fossil]

forgiving whoever made this is up to god

to arrange the meeting is up to me

[fossil frost]

and completely irrelevant, because they excluded 3 of the major manufacturers

[ashen zodiac]

android phones went from getting 6 months of updates at best to 1 or 2 years. sure it's better but not great

[full fossil]

all im asking for is apple to stop babysitting me

[vapid smelt]

Pixel 5a

[sonic barn]

my pixel was getting 1 update a month and 3 security updates

[manic torrent]

again, I'm not saying everything is perfect, but your data is old AND wrong.

[fossil frost]

you cant change your generalisation from "it wont have the latest patch" to "your phone is too new to support my stupid argument"

[sonic barn]

now I just get security updates

[ashen zodiac]

considering it came out in '82 the designer is either very elderly or already no longer with us

[sonic barn]

android 12

[dreamy rose]

would you rather write a security patch for a Brick?

[full fossil]

like i had to move to linux just to escape proprietariness in operating systems

[manic torrent]

... honestly, if your problem is apple is babysitting YOU particularly..... don't buy it.

[full fossil]

my problem is that what they do is even legal

[manic torrent]

because it's literally part of their brand

[ashen zodiac]

huh? i daily a 3 year old phone, it's fine lol

[manic torrent]

so then it's not an apple problem, is it.

[dreamy rose]

there we go, Linux came up on the topic of Printing. much easier printing on Linux isn't it

[lilac sage]

Apple devices are great for old ppl specifically because its not flexible.

[manic torrent]

printing on linux is a nightmaredisaster. Much like on windows 😉

[dreamy rose]

sure.

[full fossil]

omw to write the entire text document myself(printers are bloat)

[sonic barn]

just use libre office

[opal citrus]

Thank you!

[sonic barn]

or print off firefox

[ashen zodiac]

https://brew.sh https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst AHEM

[sonic barn]

easy

[ashen zodiac]

you can tweak the crap out of macOS

[manic torrent]

I am not talking from a pure desktop perspective, I mean for business stuff

[full fossil]

THERES ONLY THESE WHILE THERES A TON MORE ON LINUX

[sonic barn]

like spreadsheets

[dreamy rose]

ah yes. when getting stuff on your computer is Equal to Homebrew and hacks on a Console.

[full fossil]

look, does apple allow me to change my bootloader

[ashen zodiac]

and? that's not the point. the point is you can do it. also macports is a thing too

[vapid smelt]

having one company control your whole phone is kinda cringe

[ashen zodiac]

yes, i literally have a Mac with a custom bootloader. 1 sec lemme boot it up

[full fossil]

exactly

[full fossil]

where grub

[manic torrent]

I had a mac for ages... I ran macos. it was fine. before that I had ubuntu on a laptop. also fine. Now I have an XPS13 with win11. Also fine.

[full fossil]

go for two

[fossil frost]

ill settle this.. .you like apple and iphones and macs, and other people dont... realistically, nobody gives a fuck, and you defending apple and making broad sweeping arguments that dont stand up, just feed into the mac hate... your best bet is to just do what everyone else does. and quietly not give a shit about what other people choose to do, you do what you want to do, and let others do what they choose to do

[dreamy rose]

if you are not going Bi Billy and getting monitored by Google, Samsung and Aperture Science all at once your phone aint good

[full fossil]

aperture?

[dreamy rose]

Science

[manic torrent]

TLDR: Everything sucks, and capitalism is bad. Sometimes the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep. (RIP Kenny Rogers)

[dreamy rose]

that looks like the MacOS bootloader to me

[ashen zodiac]

it isn't. holy shit you're daft. https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/

[full fossil]

tldr: apple sucks, proprietariness sucks, and capitalism is good, but should have its limits.

[sonic barn]

capitalism is just pushing people to work and spend for nothing

[manic torrent]

EVERYTHING sucks. being a linux zealot in 2022 is super cringe

[full fossil]

politics are a no no

[sonic barn]

every civilization that had it died out

[full fossil]

i dual boot win 10 kek

[manic torrent]

~~ that had it~~

[sonic barn]

thats what I wrote

[full fossil]

exclusively to play ultrakill

[vapid smelt]

Android is the EU of phones

[full fossil]

pfft

[sonic barn]

if u believe capitalism is good look at commodity prices right now then tell me it isn't broken

[dreamy rose]

it isn't grub if its skinned like MacOS bootloader or Windows. its either a Bare list prompt or its a Full Screen Vomit of Rainbow or plain unnecessarily bright colors

[full fossil]

better than commies i tell you

[fossil frost]

every civilization has died out... so far... not just ones that have had capitalism... in fact... the only one that HASNT died out so far... is the one that DOES have capitalism

[ashen zodiac]

it's not grub, it's it's own thing!!! holy shit

[manic torrent]

oh no! unnecessary bright colours! whatever will we do. I am going to make everything rainbow now.

[ashen zodiac]

you can install grub on a Mac if you want, it'll run it, but won't boot macOS because reasons. if you want to be able to boot macOS still rEFInd is better

[full fossil]

alright enough of this before half the chat gets George Orwell'd

[manic torrent]

also personally I use LILO

[full fossil]

how did apple go to bootloaders and politics

[sonic barn]

wait until we nuke each other or release some virus like covid but engineered to kill or some other chemical warfare

[ashen zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38xNqZvBJI

[manic torrent]

... really? It's a pretty easy straight line

[full fossil]

literally 1985

[manic torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-by-one_error

[dreamy rose]

mmm isn't that lovely, you can't use good things on a System because of Apple stuff. thats a pain

[full fossil]

LITERALLY 1985

[sonic barn]

if we get an engineered outbreak where it spreads like covid we already know most countries won't care about containment

[ashen zodiac]

no, grub doesn't support macOS. macOS came first, it's up to grub to implement support, not the other way around

[sonic barn]

then humanity is no more

[ashen zodiac]

clicking the link is so difficult isn't it

[vapid smelt]

yes

[fossil frost]

i went to watch BFS in april, but missed the whole show because my gf and i got super drunk, and were removed from the venue

[full fossil]

very

[manic torrent]

IF 1985 came out now, It would be about 1998 - the year I graduated high school :/

[dreamy rose]

Apple is a Politically Incorrect company, and they make awful bootloaders.

[ashen zodiac]

that's stupid

[manic torrent]

wow, you seem to care a LOT about the apple boot loader.

[fossil frost]

ive also seen them about 6 times previously...

[sonic barn]

do you watch helluva boss

[manic torrent]

uhhhh it really didn't.

[vapid smelt]

i graduated in 2018

[ashen zodiac]

System 1 came out in 1984. was grub first?

[manic torrent]

System 1 has nothing to do with modern MacOS

[vapid smelt]

Remember when microsoft saved apple

[ashen zodiac]

what would be your line for "modern macOS"? OS9? 8? system 7?

[dreamy rose]

Loud Purr.

[lucid echo]

macOS dates back to 2001

[manic torrent]

I mean... probably OS X? You know, since they more or less started again....

[ashen zodiac]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_1

[ashen zodiac]

that would be the year 2000

[manic torrent]

grub

[fossil frost]

isnt system 1 just darwin, where apple did a search and replace on "darwin" with "mac operating system" ?

[manic torrent]

Initial release 1995; 27 years ago

[lucid echo]

If you wanna edit the Wikipedia entry, be my guest
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS

[manic torrent]

like - I don't care about your actual argument, but once again, your "facts" are incorrect.

[carmine merlin]

"Guys, help me. My r7 7700x doesn't come with any pins. What should I do?" -someone somewhere out there

[manic torrent]

solder them on

[fossil frost]

MacOS: Initial release: March 24, 2001; 21 years ago

[dreamy rose]

what? you gotta be confused https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

[fossil frost]

no, macos is based on darwin

[dreamy rose]

oh you said the wrong OS, right

[lucid echo]

I sense a changing of the goalposts incoming..

[ashen zodiac]

no the wiki is correct, it's just a weird line to draw

[fossil frost]

aaannnd there they go... shifted 😄

[manic torrent]

it really isn't a weird line to draw at all, they are entirely different code bases and pieces of software that share a name

[dreamy rose]

what counts as "Classic MacOS?"

[dreamy rose]

are they talkig about System?

[ashen zodiac]

System 1 to MacOS 9.2.2

[fossil frost]

its a similar line to windows 9x and windows nt based OS's... windows now is an entirely different codebase to what was in windows 98 or me... because t hey deleted that codebase

in the same way that OSX was essentially a delete and rewrite

[manic torrent]

They didn't "delete the codebase", but ... yes, sort of.

[dreamy rose]

you can still get DOS though

[ashen zodiac]

even classic macOS needs a line then, since they moved architecture and completely changed the kernel

[fossil frost]

no, you can get a command prompt window that sort of acts like dos, but isnt dos, and doesnt run dos programs

[lucid echo]

You should complain to the grub devs that they don’t support System 1, it’s criminal really

[dreamy rose]

forgot about FreeDOS

[manic torrent]

porting architectures is not new software.

[fossil frost]

ok, they stopped working on it... but they should have thrown it in the bin

[sonic barn]

boomer tech

[fossil frost]

dont be a dismissive arsehole

[manic torrent]

I'm not entirely against your line of thinkign then - but so what. It doesn't change the logical seperation between modern MacOS and old - even apple makes the distinction

[dreamy rose]

people do love those old keyboards you gotta admit

[fossil frost]

your world literally wouldnt exist without it...

[ashen zodiac]

they literally say "new"

[manic torrent]

new KERNEL

[dreamy rose]

it would but it would be pretty different.

[sonic barn]

well now keyboards are mostly cheaply made

if they make one keyboard then no one will keep buying the new ones because the old one is good

[dreamy rose]

imagine a world where Amiga Workbench was the one to make it instead of Windows

[fossil frost]

no, the world as we know it now... wouldnt exist in the way it does now... "being different" still means that this particular world... wouldnt exist...

[ashen zodiac]

you're in the LTT discord what do you expect

[manic torrent]

lol, absolutely wrong. looks at keyboard pile

[fossil frost]

you are doing the same thing about everything not apple

[sonic barn]

make a christmas tree out of them

[lucid echo]

[sonic barn]

tape them together

[ashen zodiac]

i literally own a bunch of android phones and like 5 pc's

[dreamy rose]

its the LTT servers. gotta deal with it some ppl have a natural Bias.

ah fuck ya discord

[manic torrent]

wtf natural? I think you just mean 'bias' because there's all sorts of bias

[fossil frost]

and you are also saying those android phones are all shit and claiming that using bad data from a report that was specifically designed to sell a data security product, by a company who sells data security products

[ashen zodiac]

it's a fact that android phones are supported for half the time iPhones get support. @manic torrent agreed with that even

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-U4Yr9UNBo

[ashen zodiac]

and no support = security risk

[manic torrent]

and yet, everything @fossil frost said was correct 😄

[ashen zodiac]

[fossil frost]

that wasnt your argument, you made a blanket statement that "all android phones are insecure" and "your phone will not have the latest patch"... both of which you were wrong about... and yet you continued on with trying to prove your invalid point

[dreamy rose]

if Android was and is really shit then why did my Galaxy S4 have a feature that only came to iOS recently?

[ashen zodiac]

which feature might that be?

[manic torrent]

oh god, could you be less relevant

[dreamy rose]

Widgets

[ashen zodiac]

i consider that clutter, not a feature, but you do you. homescreen is for icons

[dreamy rose]

i don't like them either but i assumed they were there from the beginning ngl

[ocean narwhal]

You were never forced to have widgets lmao

[lucid echo]

It’s almost like different OS’s have their own pros and cons

Wild

[dreamy rose]

i was suprised when the update dropped and everyone went into a Frenzy using such an old feature for the first time ever.

[ashen zodiac]

I didn’t, don’t have room

[lucid echo]

People liking features of a new update? How dare they!

[lucid echo]

Folders exist they’re quite nice

[vapid smelt]

apple made the first folding phone with the iphone 6 plus samsung is so far behind

[ashen zodiac]

i find em slow anything that isn't here i swipe down and use spotlight to launch

[dreamy rose]

true. they really innovated with that one. so much they didn't even try to perfect it any more

[vapid smelt]

then samsung made the first weponized phone with the note

[lucid echo]

Does Android have native video chat yet?

[fossil frost]

i dont care that competitors take ideas from each other... there should be a word for it... something like innovation... or a phrase like... healthy competition.... or something along those lines.... not sure those sorts of things would catch on though.... what i do care about is that when a company implements something a competitor initially came up with 10 years ago, and that nobody cares about anymore, but label it as something new and claim they invented it and convince their customers that the other company ripped them off

[ashen zodiac]

@lucid echo the only other apps besides those on the main screen i actually use are a guitar tuning app and banking apps... that's it really so why bother with folders

[lucid echo]

I’m fucking with you, silly goose

[fossil frost]

no, but does IOS? or does IOS have an app that does it, where that app comes preloaded onto the phone?

[vapid smelt]

google duo count?

[ashen zodiac]

[lucid echo]

Yeah, facetime, for like 10 years

It’s built into the phone and contacts app

[dreamy rose]

idk if this is a thing nobody saw but there was this concept for a Phone that would flex and bend like a worm having a panic attack when the alarm would go off. i never liked that.

[peak sable]

Oxford comma! I seen that edit

[fossil frost]

is it native, or is it just a bundled app, made by apple

[ashen zodiac]

Facetime, since 2010.

[ashen zodiac]

native, it integrates with the OS

[fossil frost]

its not "native support in the OS"... its just another app

[lucid echo]

It’s super native, fully integrated into all relevant apps

It’s another app in the sense that the phone and contacts are another app

[dreamy rose]

oh so basically the two apps you ever need in China but for small things?

[ashen zodiac]

even cross platform. if someone facetimes me both my iPhone and MacBook ring, and i can answer on whatever device i'm on at the moment

[fossil frost]

like whatsapp is able to do with android? or google duo is able to do?

[fossil frost]

yep, whatsapp does that with me

[ashen zodiac]

whatsapp is "just another app" that happens to run in the background so it can do that. it's not integrated into the OS in any way

[dreamy rose]

thats gotta be annoying. someone calls you when you're working on your iBook and then it blares loudly through your iPhone

[lucid echo]

You don’t need to setup some third party account to use it, unlike those

[ashen zodiac]

huh?

[lucid echo]

Very easy to turn off, it’s optional

[fossil frost]

have fun using facetime with just a simcard and no apple account

[lucid echo]

It uses wifi silly goose

[ashen zodiac]

have fun using whatsapp without a phone number

[vapid smelt]

https://thehackernews.com/2019/01/apple-facetime-privacy-hack.html i loved this bug

[fossil frost]

my kids do that right now on their android tablets

[dreamy rose]

Sim cards? what is this 2007? plebians use Simcards, we use Esim!

[lucid echo]

It’s almost like each OS has its own pros and cons and trying to claim one is objectively better is just cringe

[ashen zodiac]

bullshit. you cannot install whatsapp on a tablet first of all, second you need a phone number to activate it

[fossil frost]

no OS is objectively better than the other, but people in here like to claim they are... and i like to point out that they are wrong, and sometimes i use the other OS and its features to back up the argument

[ashen zodiac]

unless you're outside of murica

[vapid smelt]

android tabelts 🤮

[lucid echo]

You’re not doing a great job at appearing neutral, you might wanna work on that

[fossil frost]

ah ok... ill tell my kids they can stop using it then. even though they use it every day on their tablets, and used it this morning to call me from their mums house

[ashen zodiac]

you're literally providing false information

[dreamy rose]

this is just like saying "On windows you can do whatever you want but you HAVE to be affraid of Viruses or you could use MacOS which has a Stinky Desktop, Limited with what you can do and what you can run on or you can use one with the Benefits of both and more of its own."

[fossil frost]

ive said several times, i dont give a fuck what people use, and that competition is good... and people should just use what they want and not give a shit about what other people do or like or enjoy, because what other people do for themselves has no effect on you or what you like or what you enjoy... maybe you missed those messages

[silent cloud]

Happy Diwali everyone

[ashen zodiac]

Ah. Is Xorg crashing frequently with multiple displays a feature?

[lucid echo]

Wtf are you on

[dreamy rose]

thats a Bug. unlike MacOS where every bug is a Feature, to give it more personality

[ashen zodiac]

Xorg has had that bug for 30 years lol

[dreamy rose]

Simple fix. Wayland.

[fossil frost]

its not globally, or even widely available in any country, at all... whatsapp did a trial a year or so ago to let people install whatsapp on devices without a sim/phone number, and i installed it on my kids tablets at that point, and they have some sort of fake-phone-number associated with the whatsapp account... never heard much about it since, i assume the experiment was a shit show and they just never bothered to roll it out properly, and those few people who managed to get it, are still on it... but... yeah, its possible, just not easily available

[dreamy rose]

you arent limited to X you know

[ashen zodiac]

Which does not support screen record or screen share. Great alternative bruh

[dreamy rose]

unless you buy Nvidia. frankly if you are trying to Use Nvidia and Linux you don't know what you are doing.

[ashen zodiac]

[fossil frost]

though as i said, still cant use facetime without an apple id, or a phone number... which was the argument against whatsapp, you need a phone number and an account.... you need the same things for both...

[ashen zodiac]

You can use it without phone number, it’s linked to ID

All you need is an Apple ID for it

[fossil frost]

you also cant use facetime if you break your screen and get your phone repaired and dont pay apples prices for it

[ashen zodiac]

Source?

[vapid smelt]

only boomers use facetime change my mind

[lucid echo]

It’s almost like each OS has pros and cons and the “best” one depends on your specific needs

[dreamy rose]

@ashen zodiac is your Mind Changer

[vapid smelt]

but muh os is more better

[fossil frost]

check out lewis rosmans channel on youtube, he has a lot of videos about it, LTT did a video about it too... screen is serialised to the device in a way that bricks the ability to use certain features... facetime being one of them

[ashen zodiac]

Friend of mine who is a year younger than me uses it.

[lucid echo]

Does WhatsApp come default with 100% of android installs? Like is it a feature of vanilla android?

[halcyon ocean]

are we bitching about whos glass slab made by X mega corporation is better again

[lucid echo]

Genuine question

[dreamy rose]

Mind destroyed, total olbiteration, DOUBLE KILL

[lucid echo]

It never ends, it’s so cringe

[halcyon ocean]

it really is

[ashen zodiac]

Is there an article? I can’t stand Louie and ltt is impossible to find due to clickbait titles

[vapid smelt]

mine is glass and plastic!

[fossil frost]

do you mean, do google use their size and power to force the install of whatsapp on all android phones... like apple use their size and power to force you to use only their app? no.. they dont

https://repair.eu/news/the-new-iphone-13-comes-with-bad-news-for-third-party-repairs/

[lucid echo]

“Only” is not true. You can use whatever video chat you want. Don’t lie silly goose

[fossil frost]

sorry, it was face id, not facetime, but still

[lucid echo]

But still what?

[fossil frost]

apple bricking features out of the device because you dared to repair something you own

[halcyon ocean]

didnt they "fix" that with a software update

[lucid echo]

Sounds like the answer is no, it’s not a native video chat app

[ashen zodiac]

I skimmed it and I didn’t see FaceTime mentioned, only faceID, aka face unlock

[fossil frost]

as i said... "sorry, it was face id, not facetime, but still"

[dreamy rose]

mmmm. sounds like a Lawsuit that should have happened ages ago

[ashen zodiac]

In outside smoking rn so on phone, don’t see everything

[fossil frost]

it does, but it will never happen, because apple can afford very expensive lawyers and very expensive politicians

[wet mantle]

just updated my bios on my b450 tomahawk and now it wont boot off my main ssd
it recognizes it but i cant switch to it as boot option #1 any ideas?

[ashen zodiac]

Also I get faceID, if that gets cracked an attacker has access to everything including payments

[fossil frost]

what does that have to do with me repairing my screen if i broke it?

they have to also steal my face when they steal my phone

[ashen zodiac]

It’s part of the screen, the sensors are in it.

[dreamy rose]

Apple likes to keep a vault of faces in their HQs. their products will soon become Face things. like Facephone or Facebook, FaceOS

[lucid echo]

Y’all are so goofy

[ashen zodiac]

If they can insert a fraudulent sensor that bypasses things, they wouldn’t need to. That’s why only apple can replace it

[dreamy rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbnyaJAbP1U

[fossil frost]

so... the camera... and IR sensor... that feed that data back to the cpu, the cpu that does the actual processing, and the other hidden ICs that are not in the screen... that store the biometric data...

the sensor is just that... a sensor... it doesnt process

[lucid echo]

This is why I rarely visit #public-chat

[ashen zodiac]

It’s not a camera it’s a dot projector, very different

[fossil frost]

ffs... what do you think reads those dots?

[full fossil]

Apple should have updated the IOS to fix that

[fossil frost]

a wizard that hides inside the phone?

[ashen zodiac]

A sensor, which sends it to a coprocessor

[fossil frost]

so.. not the sensor its self?

a processor... not part of the screen...

and then a simple software change was able to undo the need for that bricking of the feature?.... sounds like the screen replacement had nothing at all to do with it, other than apple forcing you to not do it yourself

[ashen zodiac]

If I have a lock and someone makes a fraudulent key to unlock it it’s still compromised even though they key does not do the unlocking part or verifying it’s the correct key

[dreamy rose]

Coprocessor? Like Arc is to Radeon?

[fossil frost]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[ashen zodiac]

Yes, apple uses a coprocessor for security features, not the main cpu

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec59b0b31ff/web

[dreamy rose]

like the fact there's a small ARM Processor in the GPU in the Wii that handles the Booting of the system.

[fossil frost]

yes, and that processor has nothing to do with the sensor, or the screen.... the sensor sends data to that processor, and the processor decides what to do with it... so replacing a screen, with the sensor as part of that... doesnt replace the coprocessor... or any of the biometric data

so the device is just as secure as it was before.... just that apple wanted to use some scare mongering to sell their own repairs

[ashen zodiac]

It can send fraudulent data

[fossil frost]

and if the security coprocessor takes that without processing and verifying it... not much of a security coprocessor is it?

[lucid echo]

Apple does a LOT of shitty profiteering but this is a valid reason for the behavior here

[dreamy rose]

the part that came with could also send Fraudulent Data.

[fossil frost]

sounds like apple have bigger security problems if a simple IR camera and laser emitter with no validation at all, is all they use to verify you are you

[ashen zodiac]

@fossil frost think of it like this. if anyone could attach a sensor, they could also attach a computer, and use that to try every single combination of data until they get the magic number that unlocks it so to speak

[lucid echo]

“No validation at all” complains about their validation system

[fossil frost]

so the coprocessor doesnt do basic security measures like knowing its under a brute force attack?

[noble quiver]

Hello will a Noctua nh-l9i cool a i5 12400?

[dreamy rose]

i'd call that Recovery

[ashen zodiac]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208108#:~:text=The technology that enables Face,infrared image of your face.

it's a bit more advanced than that

[ashen zodiac]

it does, which is why it only works with validated sensors. that's how it remains secure.

[ashen zodiac]

that should be listed on noctua's website

[fossil frost]

i know.. thats my point... you can replace the IR sensor with whatever you want... if apple have a good security coprocessor... it doesnt matter... the processor wont validate the data being sent to it and reject it... so it doesnt matter which IR camera you use, the data spat out of that sensor is the same data in the same format, and the security coprocessor checks it, properly, with very complicated maths... and says yes or no...

so... no... replacing the simple/dumb part of the equasion, doesnt reduce security

[noble quiver]

Oh I didn’t think that was a thing thank you

[ashen zodiac]

but you could attach a fake sensor that just tries any combination of data until it gets it right

[lucid echo]

You should work for apple, clearly you thought of something none of their engineers anticipated

[fossil frost]

you could, you could do the same thing with the pin number

or their password

[vapid smelt]

like you could for a normal pin pad password?

[fossil frost]

would be much quicker and much more efficient

[manic torrent]

within what address space? and how long between each retry?

[ashen zodiac]

which is why 2FA etc exists, because passwords and pins alone aren't secure

[fossil frost]

sounds like you are saying your face isnt secure

[ashen zodiac]

it is, if it's a safe sensor. which is why you can't just chuck in whatever you want

[ashen zodiac]

yes, that's why just pin codes are insecure, and iphones block you if you enter the code in wrong too many times

[fossil frost]

im not going to try and change your mind, you have clearly bought into apples bullshit on this particular thing

[lucid echo]

It’s a pretty simple concept I’m amazed it’s this hard to grasp

[fossil frost]

why cant they do that when your face is wrong so many times?

[lucid echo]

They do

[fossil frost]

so... why would you be able to brute force it with a "dodgy sensor"

[ashen zodiac]

they do, but that's not a perfect system. it just times out after a while giving you more tries

[fossil frost]

it would lock you out... so... why would they block you from using another sensor?

[lucid echo]

It’s almost like there’s multiple layers of failsafes

Like they’re trying to make it secure or something

[fossil frost]

its almost like... apple are trying to force you to use their repairs... that make them money, to control their ecosystem... to keep the wizard behind the curtain

[ashen zodiac]

ugh

[fossil frost]

anyway, going to bed, its far to late for this now

[lucid echo]

Of course you are bud, sleep tight

Love you

[lucid echo]

FWIW they’re allowing third party screen replacements to work with FaceID, as long as you use a validated screen.

https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/face-id-not-working-after-screen-replacement-solution/

A whole ass argument for absolutely no reason, never change #public-chat

[ashen zodiac]

i actually didn't know they changed that

my iPhone doesn't have it so i don't really look into it

[vapid smelt]

but apple still locks thier repair program parts down to the id of the phone you gave them

[lucid echo]

Every corporation is only seeking profit at the end of the day. Apple is no different than the rest, aside from being really good at that goal

[dusty rune]

no corporation is your friend

[vapid smelt]

lttstore.com is

[ashen zodiac]

💸

[vapid smelt]

might get the chungas bottle in the summer

[echo ridge]

Why is it all blue

[wraith sonnet]

I might get it sooner

[wraith sonnet]

for now

[ashen zodiac]

i cancelled FP so i won't be for much longer

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-the-cat-shock-scared-gif-15003103

[tired glade]

F

[ashen zodiac]

i have YT premium so there's no point

also FP doesn't remember where you were which is so annoying

[wooden cedar]

Hey

[tired glade]

Oh, there is app?

[dreamy rose]

Linus Shill XD

[tired glade]

Hey

[vapid smelt]

hay

[twin verge]

Not sure where to post this but I have a 2 year old Laptop with a 4 year extended warranty, the plastic housing is cracked where the hinges are, I am basically holding it on with duct tape, would that be covered under the warranty?

[vapid smelt]

idk as your laptops customers support

[tired glade]

Depends on warranty

[wooden cedar]

What's the best crypto miner to use on a mid grade laptop

[tired glade]

Non

[proud stump]

i got a sound board

[tired glade]

Congrats

[vapid smelt]

i got a sound long board

[dreamy rose]

ask whoever made it we aren't Customer Service. but what i can tell you is that as someone whos got more damage to their laptop case than that is that you are lucky

[full fossil]

Good evening

[dreamy rose]

what is a Bloodthursty Cheeseburger? is it a Bull?

[full fossil]

It's a cheeseburger with a lust for blood

[dreamy rose]

so a Bull right?

[full fossil]

eh - more like a tactical tank

[dreamy rose]

all these can describe a Bull

[full fossil]

Funny enough - my old boss used to call me "El Toro" - aka - the bull

[dreamy rose]

you a big dude?

[full fossil]

eh

[manic torrent]

I'm 'uge

[full fossil]

5' 10 and 200 pounds ish

[dreamy rose]

a little short, but it makes sense he'd call you El Toro.

[full fossil]

yup

[dreamy rose]

i'd like to be Decently tall.

not 7ft but tall enough

[vapid smelt]

they have surgery for that

[dreamy rose]

how the hell do they even do it?

[manic torrent]

never seen gattaca?

[vapid smelt]

cut your leg inhalf and space it out a few inches so the bone grows back

[near nebula]

Think TV was something like Polaroid

in ASDAs in the UK

took me a moment to recall where I saw them, but yeah, Polaroid does some products for ASDA and their HDTVs and even budget 4K models are those

might be different depending on area however.

[hollow citrus]

i remembered why i stopped playing satisfactory

my pc just crashes

[full fossil]

Woooah that's freaky

High temps?

[vapid smelt]

buy a new pc then

[hollow citrus]

nah i have an aio and my temps never get above 50 degrees

[hollow citrus]

when i sell the lawn mower i have

[full fossil]

What GPU do you have?

[hollow citrus]

1060 6gb lmao

its old

and i have no money

[full fossil]

that shouldn't be an issue

[dreamy rose]

wouldn't it just be easier to Amputate and get Prosthetics that are slightly taller? you don't have to deal with cut up skin and what not.

[hollow citrus]

i5 10600k with a 0.1 ghz overclock

[dreamy rose]

maxium Power

[hollow citrus]

it could be the overclock but

[manic torrent]

lol. dude. amputating limbs is not something you do on a whim

[vapid smelt]

[dreamy rose]

if you cant grow but really wanna be taller you'd do anything right?

[hollow citrus]

wdym i did it just yesterday

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmCFKhprdhg

[hollow citrus]

holy cow

[manic torrent]

The loss of mobility, as well as a host of other issues... a million people who had their limbs amputated are lining up to punch you rn

[dreamy rose]

bruh, jokes exist.

[manic torrent]

jokes that don't shit on disabled people exist.

[hearty spear]

can they do the reverse and make me shorter?

[hollow citrus]

id hate for all those cameras to be all in my face when i get out of surgery lmao

[dreamy rose]

but i haven't done that???

[hollow citrus]

uh oh

[vapid smelt]

doesnt look like it

[hearty spear]

booooo

[vapid smelt]

youll have to keep paying for cali king beds

[dreamy rose]

i don't know what that would look like. Spine Recompression every Thursday?

[wraith sonnet]

get hit by a train that worked for me

[dreamy rose]

Average player in Kalimari Desert

[wraith sonnet]

I love how the steam controller can very rarely just break mid game

thanks corsair for making it so that no further development goes into this damn thing

[vapid smelt]

are you and corsair dating?

[wraith sonnet]

you damn well know how much I hate corsair

[vapid smelt]

they make nice cases and power supplies

[old cairn]

Can I get some help with my Xbox series S?

[vapid smelt]

this is a pc server

[noble quiver]

What he said ☝️

[leaden gale]

They also killed the Steam Controller so

[hybrid shell]

indeed

[tawdry birch]

my pc will turn on but then the monitor wont show anything and the gpu fans stop

[analog night]

bro microcenter is stupid

[vapid smelt]

#1027757333117415424 is a thing

[leaden gale]

Care to explain

[lucid echo]

No u

[lament oracle]

Is there anyone that really knows computers well?

[worldly kayak]

what happens if i boost the server?

[mighty hornet]

I want to start a radio station really bad

Also whats up @lament oracle

[plain spruce]

lmao

[lament oracle]

Dms

Actually. Can u vc

[plain spruce]

sorry

💀

[vapid smelt]

no your not

[plain spruce]

💀

[analog night]

they lied to me about a warranty

[drifting topaz]

how so?

[junior ridge]

https://rave.dj/LSd6TUdtBFX32g

check out this sexy remix of linus's intro

[primal cairn]

Is it true that intel is better for workstation?

[long kraken]

[slate wing]

Like always it depends on what you are doing.

[long kraken]

What about being broke? What’s better for that?

[slate wing]

eBay.

[primal cairn]

Wish

[long kraken]

True but wish

Wish is terrible

[manic torrent]

money

[slate wing]

Just find certified refurbished stuff lol. Can usually get laptops 1/2 or 1/3 MSRP in my experience.

[long kraken]

[long kraken]

Facts. I’m just sad that my pc I built in like 2017 is slowing down

[slate wing]

2017 should be fine.

[long kraken]

Felt like 2 years ago ngl

[lilac sage]

2017 would be zen1 or intel 7th gen

[long kraken]

It’s getting to the point where it’s really noticeable

[slate wing]

Yeah, I use 7th gen still and it's fine.

[lilac sage]

as well as Pascal

[lucid cove]

make your own

[long kraken]

Core i7 8700 8th gen I think

[long kraken]

[lilac sage]

well that would be from 2018 iirc

ill check

nvm 8th gen released in oct. 2017

still. not bad

[slate wing]

Pascel is also fine as well as long as you don't need extreme memory bandwidth or FP16 performance.

[long kraken]

Yea built it in Q4

Got 32gb 3200 ram in there it’s just the cpu crapping out on me

[primal cairn]

Why are people considering building high end pc when they can't afford a car

[slate wing]

It's still a 6c 4.6ghz coffelake CPU, unless you are pushing 120+ or have a lot of bloat on your PC it should be fine.

[long kraken]

[lilac sage]

they spend more time at home gaming than outside

im not justifying it but that would be an explanation

[long kraken]

Bloat central up in here. Also like I mainly run fusion 360 which it pretty cpu intensive

[primal cairn]

Well I mean, afford

Nvm

[slate wing]

Ah rip yeah fusion will destroy it.

[long kraken]

Every update for auto desk it just gets slower and slower

[slate wing]

Man I sure do love modern software. Who cares about optimized software, just get a faster CPU.

[long kraken]

[primal cairn]

Should I install windows on my fastest drive?

[slate wing]

By fastest drive you mean SSD, yes.

Windows is a piece of shit and does a ton of random IO

[primal cairn]

But why is unreal keep using it!? I thought I changed the directory

[dapper stratus]

Like 8Tb from Sabernet

[long kraken]

[dapper stratus]

?

[long kraken]

Serious question, what do you guys think of this?

[slate wing]

China dog or slowmode?

[long kraken]

China dog

[slate wing]

2/10

[long kraken]

Why tho

[slate wing]

better emotes exist imo

[long kraken]

But it’s my dog

I’ll show you in #pets

[vapid smelt]

weeb emote

[long kraken]

[slate wing]

Weebs have developed pretty much all modern software you use. Especially on Linux.

X26*? Weebs. Dxvk? Weebs. Linux kernel? Weebs.

[vapid smelt]

[long kraken]

?ban 235559938578055177

[vapid smelt]

< unbanable

[long kraken]

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/true-its-true-tho-its-true-truth-gif-4494843

[vapid smelt]

see unbanable

[long kraken]

[vapid smelt]

im the golden child

i can never do no wrong

[slate wing]

You don't like weebs and therefore hate computers. You did everything wrong.

[spice valve]

Not true.
That's actually a somewhat interesting partial myth.

[manic torrent]

lol, no

[slate wing]

Wdym?

[spice valve]

x264 in particular was developed with help from video enthusiasts and developers from all around the world 😄

[slate wing]

Yes but the lead dev was a weeb. There was literally a touhou tune at one point.

[slate wing]

Cite previous example.
Dxvk was started by a degen who wanted to look at 2b on Linux.
We literally had a vtuber write a Mac driver in rust for Linux.

[manic torrent]

I didn't say weebs never did anything

"Weebs have developed pretty much all modern software you use"

[proud stump]

i hate warzone so goddam much now

[amber zenith]

This is a random question, but for windows you can use %appdata% and %localappdata% to access Appdata/Roaming and Appdata/Local, does anyone know if there is a %x% for accessing Appdata/LocalLow?

[alpine gale]

This information is old so please consume with buckets of salt, but there doesn't appear to be a variable for the AppData\LocalLow folder built into the OS.
https://superuser.com/questions/386415/why-can-i-not-see-locallow-and-local-when-i-type-in-appdata-into-the-windows-7

[amber zenith]

Thanks anyway

[hybrid shell]

fr tho

i agree with you

🤝

[vapid smelt]

@slate wing 2 against 1 we win

[cerulean saffron]

You can make an NTFS junction ( mklink /j) for LocalLow inside either Local or Roaming, then use %appdata%\LocalLowJunction to access it, if nothing else works, this definitely should

[manic torrent]

ok, HP just made the shitlist. HP thunderbolt G2 dock on my Dell XPS13, the monitors don't work (the other stuff does)

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZGmWZyhac hp only sells quality goods

[carmine merlin]

"Ya, high quality" -hp

[potent oxide]

wait so
did we end up finding out why linus was in 2d form on last wan show??

[vapid smelt]

he went on a new diet

[potent oxide]

funni

no but fr

[potent oxide]

like actually tho what happened?

[vapid smelt]

he cut surgar from his diet

[manic torrent]

He got stuck in flatland

[crystal mirage]

how would that affect linus tho

[manic torrent]

he would have less sugar in his diet

I assume he's human, so probably like... in normal human ways

[crystal mirage]

well how does that correlate to him being in 2d form

that was what I meant by my question

[manic torrent]

Let me just check on my 24/7 linus stalker cam

[vapid smelt]

he lost so much weight he became 2d

[crystal mirage]

oooooooh

that 100% makes sense

[random lion]

He probably had a conflict in timing where he had to do it from home as it sounded like a home setup

[random lion]

Highly problematic goods

[vapid smelt]

get that common sense idea out of here

[crystal mirage]

what even is common sense

[random lion]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaving-leave-oops-bye-gif-17519616

[vapid smelt]

CAT

[random lion]

Off to do my last photography session so will leave you with cat.

[vapid smelt]

are you taking pictures of cats 👀

[random lion]

Humans

[vapid smelt]

lame

[crystal mirage]

only cats are cool

[runic seal]

Hello

i got a question for the tech people

should i install zorin os?

its based on linux

[crystal mirage]

well do you want to install zorin os

if you want to install it then install it

[vapid smelt]

i dont know should you

[manic torrent]

templeOS best OS

BeOS second best

[stuck stratus]

ye those hp pavilions are a joke

they unironically sold rx 590s in them for the longest time

[brave nacelle]

https://www.iphonecaseslx.com/products/iphone-14-13-pro-max-case?variant=43664808182051

[warm wharf]

It's fine. Moar RAM, Moar Better.

[full fossil]

the Q in HP stands for quality

[alpine gale]

But there's no "Q" in HP.... OH WAIT, there it is.

[full fossil]

[alpine gale]

On a more serious note, all manufacturers have the capability of making both good and bad products... unfortunately, sometimes they may a series that taints their entire brand for a generation of people for years. 😦 I remember HP's DV6 & DV7 laptops from the late 2000's to early 2010's experienced overheating due to lack of adequate cooling.

[lethal copper]

I have a question about HTML/CSS, iFrame to be precise. I want to make a smart clock where display outputs a kiosk website. Would jt make sense to give different widgets their own web page and add them as iframes to main one?

[fossil frost]

a "validated screen", so a screen apple sold you? or a screen that somebody has paid apple to "validate"... what does "validated screen" mean... and... if it was a hardware issue in the security setup... why did a simple software change make it so it was that all screen changes were locked out, to only unvalidated screens are locked out? its an arbitrary lock by apple to make money. its nothing to do with security at all.

[mighty grotto]

i love my windows xp hp-compaq pizza box

but their 24x monitor is among the worst electronic devices i have ever owned

[stuck stratus]

it's impressive how awful youtube music's suggestions are

[fossil frost]

youtubes suggestions in general are terrible

it cant differentiate between me putting a video on for the children, which is completely outside of what i would normally watch... and the stuff i normally watch... so now.. because i put 1 single video on of this youtuber they like yesterday on the tv to shut them up... all i see today is all the videos surrounding that youtuber and related youtubers.,.. rather than looking at the 100s of videos i watch that are totally unrelated to them and thinking "maybe this view is a one off, or a mistake, and we should discard it"

[fossil frost]

dont use iframes if you can help it

[ashen zodiac]

ikr, i have it but it's so bad, i just use Apple Music

[mighty grotto]

and that's why you have to feed the algorithm selectively and watch a lot in incognito mode and oh wait you can't pay for what you watch in incognito mode

so you can't even buy your way out of ad hell

unless you pay for two whole accounts, but that's ridiculous!

[ashen zodiac]

i don't use recommended on youtube ever, so i don't care

[mighty grotto]

I do

others also seem to do

[ashen zodiac]

but i am in agreement that YT Music sucks, particularly for older music

most of what i listen to is 1960's and 1970's, Apple Music has all that in lossless, YTM doesn't

[fossil frost]

and yeah, needs to be as lossless as possible for music recorded back then, when the original recordings are so poor and empty and tinny in the first place... cant afford to lose any quality at all

[short copper]

60/70s music recording isnt that awful it was just harder to get it sounding good, not impossible

[ashen zodiac]

they aren't poor, i have a lot of music from that era on vinyl, it sounds just fine. the problem is converting the good vinyl sound to good digital, YTM fails miserably, so does spotify to be honest

[ashen zodiac]

it's hard to get a good digital version of the original analog media

[short copper]

most of the music i listen to from the 60's and 70's sounds fine

only example i can think of is the beatles' entire discography being panned hard left and hard right from mono

[fossil frost]

even on vinyl, a lot of 60s and 70s music sounds empty and hollow... and the beatles are a prime example of that

[ashen zodiac]

basically what Apple does is insane. they get the original masters, digitise them and then put them out lossless

[short copper]

on Vinyl the beatles' music still holds up

[ashen zodiac]

i own this exact album on vinyl, and Apple did a great job

[fossil frost]

i disagree... but if it sounds good to you, fair enough, i just think it sounds empty

[short copper]

I'd rather listen to the original recordings than some of the remasters that get done

they feel sortof the same to me as those remastered music videos look

[ashen zodiac]

get yourself a good 1980's turntable, none of that modern trash, you'll see how good vinyl can sound

[fossil frost]

you mean the one that is currently in my attic, with most of MJ's early recordings, and a huge stack of other vinyl's from my ex-father-in-law (i should really give them back)...

got an original release of thriller on vinyl in the attic, original sleeve.

[ashen zodiac]

i have that one too, but in worse condition

most of my records are beat up but that's what you get with used

[mighty grotto]

Nordmende RP 1653 my beloved

[short copper]

ive got a original Giant Steps and used to live with someone who had an original Black Sabbath Self Titled

[fossil frost]

other than the sleeve being dusty, this one is in pretty much brand new condition. my ex-fil looked after his shit.. and the only reason its in my attic is because i asked if i could borrow them all, as well as the deck, so i can hook it up to a decent sound input and attempt to do a 96khz digitisation of them all

mostly just to see if i could

then covid happened, and i got divorced from his daughter...

[ashen zodiac]

[mighty grotto]

i have such a silly home audio setup tbh

[ashen zodiac]

same, just thrown together of cheap used stuff. sounds good tho

[fossil frost]

we are better off apart than together. we both knew it, we both went our own way

[mighty grotto]

old Canton Fonum 2000 speakers, Pioneer SX-S30 as the receiver/amp, that crazy programmable Nordmende RP 1653 Turntable and a real shitty samsung blu ray player for optical discs

one day i will get a reasonably quietly operating thing that plays audio cds, has a digital output, and an on-device display, and a remote

but who knows when that day will come

[fossil frost]

im in the middle of using easyeda and jlcpcb to make my own amp... trying to go as overkill as possible, and as adjustable as possible... while keeping it analogue all the way to the output.... gonna be a lot of soldering when the PCBs turn up

[ashen zodiac]

cool

i want a good guitar amp one day, would be a cool project

[fossil frost]

not hard to design and build

what is hard is.. picking the correct component values to make it sound good

[mighty grotto]

that reminds me i should rip the two really early pink floyd cd releases i inherited from a colleague, might be an interesting version to preserve

[ashen zodiac]

eh i'm looking at used ones anyway, i kinda like janky setups. the insides of my guitar, like the electronics are hand soldered together and held with tape inside

but hey it was a €50 guitar so i can't complain

[short copper]

im probably gonna gut my guitar and buy new hardware for it soon

[ashen zodiac]

i want to but at the same time i want an acoustic, and i have very limited money, so...

[dull granite]

why CPU when I can CUP?

[mighty grotto]

oh interesting the version of the wall that i have is a bit of a misprint https://www.discogs.com/release/1039952-Pink-Floyd-The-Wall, wild

[rough ginkgo]

any aussies here ever bought stuff from dick smith?

just wanna know if you item came in one piece and is legit

tryna buy a mouse rn

[molten thunder]

The dick smith near me closed down years ago, honestly never when there

[lethal copper]

Alright

A person in another server told me to try react so I'm doing that right now

Seems like it'll also allow me to make widgets easily

[full fossil]

is this linux seggs tips official serber?

[pliant leaf]

Bruh the s22 ultra keeps going down in price how am i gonna justify the 14 pro max

😭😭

[full fossil]

its easy
your not
locked down hardware is bad

absolutely prorpietary

[dreamy rose]

don't, buy the S22.

[pliant leaf]

There is literally no winning when buying a phone these days, i swear to god

If i get the pixel 7 pro i get a bargain price but the constant fear of my phone bricking itself because google is incompetent, and i only have access to the worst earbuds and smartwatch ever made

If i get the 14 pro max i have to sell a kidney, i can't repair the fucking thing, i have to say goodbye to my adblockers, but the user experience is the best

The samsung has shit battery life, shit peripherals, shit UI, it will never get significant updates, but i know it works and it has a decent camera

[full fossil]

imagine using earbuds and smartwatches

[zinc brook]

i say build a phone

get raspberry pi and stick it to a battery and screen

[full fossil]

imo just buy the cheapest shit that works xD

[zinc brook]

and get those mini keyboards

[full fossil]

omw to make a laptop out of my rpi 400

[pliant leaf]

Isn't that a laptop

[dreamy rose]

Nah fuck that get Pinephone

[full fossil]

pinephone based

[pliant leaf]

Sure let me bring my sony wh100xm4 at the gym

[full fossil]

or just put postmarket OS on a samsung s5 for the lolz

[full fossil]

why not

[rough ginkgo]

Buy a Motorola lmao

[pliant leaf]

Sweat

[elfin python]

Computer has no display from my gpu but has display from the IGPU

[full fossil]

hm

[rough ginkgo]

They have liek 120hz phones for 200aud

[full fossil]

i mean i went to the gym in cosplay so i dunno lol
use what works for you

[dreamy rose]

rip GPU

[pliant leaf]

Isn't that normal for intel at first boot

Last time i touched a cpu with integrated graphics was in 2015

[full fossil]

haha ur gpu ded lolz xD (unironicaly i feel your pain)

[dreamy rose]

thats normal for intel in general

[pliant leaf]

Good point

[full fossil]

true intel is weird

[dreamy rose]

and greedy

[elfin python]

Nah it was having problems so I took it out of the slot and dusted it

[full fossil]

intel management engine on its way to send your homework folder to the CIA

[elfin python]

And then I put it back but it isn’t working

[full fossil]

lol bricked it

[dreamy rose]

the CIA Can watch your failing grades

[elfin python]

It would not hurt doing it twice

[full fossil]

please make sure to handle gpus carefully and hold the fan while dusting it

[elfin python]

Seriously though I don’t have money for a new gpu

[tender elm]

i would get 5 lifetimes in jail

[rough ginkgo]

Take it out again and put it back it

[full fossil]

#same

[tender elm]

the amount of scams i did

[pliant leaf]

Do the fans spin

What model is it and when did you buy it

[full fossil]

yeah try takeing it out putting it back in plugging and unplugging its power or resetting bios
might have bricked it like i broke my gtx 950 back in the day

[elfin python]

Yes

[full fossil]

always hold the fans guys

and never use mars gaming power supplys

[elfin python]

I think it’s a palit gtx 1060
I bought it second hand two years ago

[pliant leaf]

🗿

[full fossil]

it blew up and killed my 1080

[elfin python]

Holy shit

[full fossil]

now i just have a 1050ti single fan like a noob

[wispy marsh]

How big was the explosion?

[pliant leaf]

Are you building the pc for the first time or are you just normally turning it on

[elfin python]

It displayed from my GPU but I got this instead

I will put it in #off-topic

[wispy marsh]

No, don't turn the pc on

[full fossil]

well it was more like a pop noise then a bit of smoke n shit was fried but you get the point

[wispy marsh]

Switch it on

[elfin python]

Normal usage

[wispy marsh]

I've only ever had fsp, silverstone, coolermaster, delta and seasonic power supplies

[full fossil]

no short protection on 5v rail moment

[wispy marsh]

None of them popped on me

[full fossil]

real china bomber

[full fossil]

these are decent

psus popping is a rare issue nowadays anyway

[wispy marsh]

It is not

[full fossil]

i mean not AS rare

but yea

normaly its not an issue if its a decent brand

[elfin python]

Well I think it works now
Booting normally

[wispy marsh]

Gigabyte p750gm

Decent brand and explodey

[full fossil]

well gg
next time plug in the power

[full fossil]

well ye that was the gigabyte fuck up

[elfin python]

i have an evga PSU, it's 650w 80+ gold but one of the lower tier ones

[full fossil]

meanwhile me who soldered a dual usb board to the back of the case and uses 2 32gb usbs as extra ram

[elfin python]

but it probably doesn't matter for me

[full fossil]

(swap on linux moment)

[elfin python]

as long as it doesn't spark

[full fossil]

i use arch btw

[full fossil]

thars decent

[pliant leaf]

Did you guys see the absolute mad titan who put mac os catalina on his steam deck

[full fossil]

evga good

[elfin python]

Okay now new problem
My computer freaks out sometimes and gives me a black screen

[full fossil]

moment when gpu ded (real)

[elfin python]

And sometimes as in at least once a day

[full fossil]

try resetting bios idfk

[elfin python]

How do I reset the bios

[full fossil]

take out cmos battery

[elfin python]

I installed the latest drivers and stuff

[full fossil]

turn of psu

spam button to turn pc on a few times to drain the stored power

put cmos battery back in
turn power back on
bios is reset

das wat i did to make my pc boot again after failed ram oc

but idk if thatl fix anything for you

[elfin python]

My cmos battery is all the way inside and it’s obstructed by my cooler

But there is a jumper to clear the cmos

Do I use that

[dreamy rose]

put it on. it'd look cute on you