public-chat

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, he's from Canada though, so it might be a bit different

[misty scarab]

No law can violate the Constitution

[full fossil]

🎶 nationwide is on your side 🎶

[hoary furnace]

are they trolling now

[misty scarab]

I'm a resident of the united states therefore i am under the jurisdiction thereof

[full fossil]

why are you giving united states advice to a canadian

[misty scarab]

Because freedom

[stoic beacon]

Okay, well now it's trolling :/

[misty scarab]

Canada is just the 51rst state

[placid turtle]

American citizen try not to be patriotic for 5 minutes challenge

[stoic beacon]

Did you say California?

[misty scarab]

California sucks

[half cargo]

California actually so nice

[stoic beacon]

California has some really good things, and it has some really bad things

[misty scarab]

False

[full fossil]

fourst

[half cargo]

Lived in Texas all my life, visited California and I was just like “damn Texas is trash”

[hoary furnace]

I see a slight misunderstanding on my side, not realising that Tomas was both the original question asker, and the person then talking about laws in America, wheras i thought it was a second person

[full fossil]

fivest

[placid turtle]

Bro is probably from wyoming

[stoic beacon]

Definitely depends on what part of Texas

[misty scarab]

Enjoy your 5.99 per gallon gas in Cali,

[full fossil]

montana is cool as hell

[stoic beacon]

There are some horrendous places in California too

[full fossil]

it's 5.50 per gallon in arizona

[half cargo]

Southcentral Texas

[stoic beacon]

Montana is my favorite state as well

[full fossil]

ahem oakland ahem

[placid turtle]

It’s 6.05 where i am in canada

[misty scarab]

It's like 3.90 im Pennsylvania

[stoic beacon]

I was thinking San Fran, LA, etc.

[misty scarab]

And 3.90 is high for us

[half cargo]

Gas is around 2.95 here in most places

[full fossil]

oh okay, makes sense

[misty scarab]

Normal price is like 2.53

[stoic beacon]

Average gas price in US right now is $3.85

[final glacier]

Sometimes you can't do thst you because some words don't have exact meanings like "bruh" but they are used

[full fossil]

crazy how people raise children in LA, san fran isnt as bad, but you choose to raise your child, in LA?

[stoic beacon]

LA generally promotes a very...selfish lifestyle, parents and kids included

It usually ends up screwing you in the end

[full fossil]

yep

[polar fern]

i think folks in cities raise their kids just fine - its not some mystery

[hoary furnace]

6.9 USD to galon here, yay england

[full fossil]

and there's a good chance you'll just get stabbed or shot

[final glacier]

Which city is better in that case would you say

[placid turtle]

Off topic but is an i3-12100f considered a bad cpu present day

[misty scarab]

You get used to the crime, sirens, helicopters, homeless, and other stuff after living in LA for awhile

[polar fern]

uh good chance?

[stoic beacon]

Well yeah, 99.9% of how a kid turns out is how they're raised. Unfortunately, geography often correlates DIRECTLY to the way that parents raise their kids...

[placid turtle]

Canada ftw 😍🥰🙏

[full fossil]

plus in LA you get the pleasure of some of the worst public schools you'll ever see :D

[misty scarab]

How much is it in America's 51rst state aka Canada

[hoary furnace]

I blame russia though, they wrecked our fuel prices even more than we wrecked them ourselves

[placid turtle]

Anywhere between 6-7 usd per gallon

[polar fern]

yall need to go to a place instead of waxing hypothetical gneralizations

[misty scarab]

Are you in British Columbia

[full fossil]

damn

[stoic beacon]

Average gas price in Canada today is $5.23 per gallon

[misty scarab]

Def not Alberta

[placid turtle]

No manitoba

[stoic beacon]

That is...rough

[misty scarab]

Ah that one

[hoary furnace]

Does Canada use metric or imperial gallons?

[misty scarab]

They use liters

[placid turtle]

We use litres lol

[stoic beacon]

Based on the site I found, it's metric, but it had a conversion to gallons from litres

[full fossil]

just saying, gas prices have skyrocketed during this presidential term

[placid turtle]

It’s cents per litre

[polar fern]

fuel is a limited resource - prices WILL go up. enjoy the current VERY LOW prices.

[misty scarab]

How's the weather in Manitoba

[final glacier]

Omg

[placid turtle]

Awful! Thanks for asking

[stoic beacon]

*During this war between two massive countries that produce oil....please don't make something that's not political into something political.

[hoary furnace]

Fair, litres much better, but it always throws off calculations when the UK uses a different gallon to the US

[polar fern]

biggie please dont

[hoary furnace]

*If not realised

[full fossil]

aight

[misty scarab]

It's 5° in my part of Murica

[final glacier]

I tıught i got banned

[misty scarab]

It was 0 with snow earlier

And later this week it's going to be 22

[placid turtle]

It’s -12 Celsius here

[final glacier]

Do you live in alaska

[misty scarab]

Pennsylvania

[stoic beacon]

Pennsylvania = mainland US's Alaska

[misty scarab]

I wish it was there here 😍

[half cargo]

65f rn. Perfect weather

[full fossil]

so anyways, where do I order those cool sleeved cable extensions

[misty scarab]

Use Celsius or leave

[final glacier]

O got it xd

[polar fern]

folks coming in here hot and heavy with these talking points and no context. like breh.

[placid turtle]

I’m going to leave this hell hole

[full fossil]

it's 70F where im at

[stoic beacon]

I'm genuinely confused, you were just mocking Canada for being Canada, but now you want the US to use celsius?

[hoary furnace]

Celsius is best, but not the most useful SI unit

[half cargo]

Ok mr constitution 🙄

[full fossil]

ima just move to greenland

or montana

[misty scarab]

Yes we should use metric, but also when I say Canada is America's 51rst state it's a joke

[stoic beacon]

Celsius = easier to remember points like freezing/boiling, but less precision

[hoary furnace]

I wish the UK actually finished its migration to SI units, it's been in the middle of migrating for longer than I've been alive

[placid turtle]

A lot of my friends are American and my province is so dependent on the United States that a lot of our measurements are imperial

[polar fern]

brb going to go pull the giant gas price lever that definitely exists under the resolute desk 🙄

[misty scarab]

Wednesday: 4°
Saturday: 22°

[placid turtle]

Like home temperature, water temperature, measurements in inches,

[stoic beacon]

UK is going SI?

[full fossil]

imo fahrenheit is better for judges temperatures for weather, celcius is better for lab use and science

[misty scarab]

Amazing weather we have here

[final glacier]

Guys i needa leave do you need anything

[hoary furnace]

It's been stopped for a long time

[placid turtle]

We have lows of-15 at night rn

[final glacier]

Bru sorry forgot to unping

[hoary furnace]

You buy water in litres, and beer in pints

you get the temperature in celius, and distance in miles

[final glacier]

Wtf is a pint

[stoic beacon]

In the US, I mainly wish that we used units of length like cm, m, km, etc....inches, feet, yards, and miles are wild

Otherwise, I don't really care

[full fossil]

i need to go to the store, can you guys watch my milk while I'm out?

[hoary furnace]

Hello hobbit

[placid turtle]

Over here we all use inches and feet because it’s way easier

[stoic beacon]

Really? What makes it easier?

[full fossil]

0.5 liter = 16.9(nice) fluid ounces

[stoic beacon]

Less decimals maybe for measuring height?

[final glacier]

🗿

[misty scarab]

Wrong

[hoary furnace]

Atleast decimals are constistent

[polar fern]

Celsius is better for like industrial uses, whereas Fahrenheit is better for "how to dress today when i go out", i feel

[hoary furnace]

not trying to remember how many thous are in an inch

[misty scarab]

500mL = 16.9 FL oz

[full fossil]

i remembered it wrong nvm

[stoic beacon]

I mean....1,000 thous are in an inch I'm pretty sure haha

[full fossil]

I just said that exact thing

[placid turtle]

Everything is imported from the states and our main market is the states especially logging etc. all wood and structural measurements are inches and feet on import. Home temperate I’m not sure

[hoary furnace]

You're right! But were you sure?

[polar fern]

cool story

[stoic beacon]

I was until you asked

[misty scarab]

Celsius does the same thing tho

[hoary furnace]

Didn't a NASA mars rover once crash because it was 2.54 ratio off?

[stoic beacon]

2.54.....the number that is burned into the front of my retinas

[hoary furnace]

https://www.simscale.com/blog/nasa-mars-climate-orbiter-metric/

[misty scarab]

Above 0c: nice weather
-20c to 0c: might need a light jacket
And below -20c? Idk just don't go outside

[full fossil]

what about warm temperatures

[polar fern]

i have seen people get confused with mil vs mm. mil is thousandth of an inch or something

[hoary furnace]

Just measure temperature in kelvin

[misty scarab]

No

[stoic beacon]

Gross

[misty scarab]

Anything above 20 is hot and i will melt

[full fossil]

the fuck you mean "no"

dude 20c is like 68f, thats cold for me

[placid turtle]

It gets to -49 here its great

[stoic beacon]

Keep in mind, he's from Pennsylvania, so the down that covers their body (usually passed down on the Pennsylvania father's side) keeps them warmer

[hoary furnace]

Yes, a mil is a thou, or thousands of an inch, but because people pronounce mm as mili-meters, it gets real confusing

[misty scarab]

Nah that's warm/hot

[full fossil]

man actually said anything over 20c (68f) is too hot

[full fossil]

68f is sweater weather for me

[hoary furnace]

20c is pleasant

[misty scarab]

It goes up to 39 here in the summer and like -20 in the winter

[stoic beacon]

I mean, where I'm from, I agree, to a certain point...75f is where I start to sweat, a lot.

[hoary furnace]

it got to 41c here this summer, that was horrible

[misty scarab]

I don't throw on a hoodie until it's like 0 or below

[polar fern]

technically humans do best in temperatures between 68 and 76 Fahrenheit. humidity also plays a factor, though

[full fossil]

I mean, it regularly hits 100f where I live

usually more

[stoic beacon]

We only get that high for about a week out of the year, thankfully

[full fossil]

I'm just used to it

[full fossil]

I get it from may to september

[polar fern]

if its zero relative humidity, we still can cool off va sweating, whereas more humid is more difficult for the sweat to evaporate

[misty scarab]

Try -20c

[full fossil]

it gets really humid where I live too

[full fossil]

that isnt that cold

[misty scarab]

How do I become Canada

[misty scarab]

You said 20c is sweater weather

-20c would murder you

[polar fern]

our humidity ranges between 22 and 100 percent, and temps -10 to 110 F annually

[full fossil]

20c is sweater weather, -20c is also sweater weather

[misty scarab]

Temps here range between -20 to 40

[full fossil]

I've been in -15f

[stoic beacon]

There is a REALLY wide range of sweater weather

[polar fern]

brb lunch

[full fossil]

basically anything under 70f

[stoic beacon]

And for me, it's anything under 40f

[full fossil]

wearing a sweater rn and its 78f

[misty scarab]

For me it's anything around 32f or lower

[stoic beacon]

How are you not sweaty as all hell?

[hoary furnace]

lttstore.com

[full fossil]

I'm used to crazy heat

[ripe patrol]

head up to mcmurray and the first day of spring starts at -40; and you go home at 25-30 above lol

[hearty spear]

We hit -20c (or below) nearly every winter here.
It's chilly, but I've dealt with worse.

[full fossil]

and also my water bottle from lttstoredotcom that has vacuum insulation to keep my water cool

[stoic beacon]

Now THAT sounds like Montana

[misty scarab]

Canada?

[full fossil]

that sounds pleasant

[hearty spear]

Boston

[full fossil]

lmao

[misty scarab]

Sucks

[placid turtle]

Annex

[misty scarab]

Pittsburgh>

(Not biased at all)

[stoic beacon]

That's awesome, Boston has some of the coolest history in it in the entire US

[hearty spear]

Pennsyltucky is just bad

[misty scarab]

False

[full fossil]

I remember seeing a marathon canceled in the uk because of the "blistering heat", it was 20c (70f)....

[misty scarab]

That's hot

[full fossil]

I lived in kentucky for a bit

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, they've been struggling with heat waves of 80f over there

[misty scarab]

Pennsytucky is different

[full fossil]

oh dearie me 80 degrees

[full fossil]

timbers: shivered

hotel: trivago

[stoic beacon]

Keep in mind though, the UK is more humid, and the entire place smells like garbage, so the heat is...actually pretty miserable there.

[hoary furnace]

we had 105f here 😦

[hearty spear]

but you understood exactly what it means

[misty scarab]

I live in it

[hoary furnace]

🤔 not sure about the smelling bit

[misty scarab]

I am pennsytucky

[hoary furnace]

But we don't have aircons much, which makes it super suck

[full fossil]

true, it can get pretty humid

[hearty spear]

the UK's record-setting heat this year was ~105F

(Which is a problem, because almost nobody there has AC, and it's humid AF.)

[misty scarab]

Can we use a real measurement system

[stoic beacon]

Maybe I just had bad luck, but I've been there 6 times in the past 5 years, and the garbage men were on strike every single time. Just mountains of garbage everywhere, piled up super high, running out into the streets, etc.

[hoary furnace]

41C

[misty scarab]

Thank you

[hearty spear]

Same thing for the Pac-NW in the USA. It's not normally that hot, and when that happens it's bad.

[full fossil]

what would you say the uk's humidity % is?

[hoary furnace]

Where abouts? I've only heard of a few strikes

[full fossil]

okay that's just miserable

[misty scarab]

AC

[hoary furnace]

Edinburgh had one recently

[stoic beacon]

It's currently 81%

[misty scarab]

Humidity makes the heat worse here

[hearty spear]

most of the Pac NW doesn't have A/C

[mystic ivy]

All Fans were out of stock when this happened

[stoic beacon]

London, Liverpool, Bristol mainly

[misty scarab]

I do

[stoic beacon]

You are not the PNW lol

[hoary furnace]

I think you've had bad luck, although if you're ever near a bin lorry, they do fucking wrench

[misty scarab]

Wait you mean pacific nw

Not atl ne

[hoary furnace]

Cycling behind bin lorries = worst thing possible

[full fossil]

105F at 81% humidity is supposedly supposed to feel like 181f, I don't think that's accurate

[full fossil]

I redid it, 129F.

that's still miserable

[misty scarab]

5°C, 89% humidity, with winds at 18 km/h

Feels like temperature is 2°

[stoic beacon]

That sounds more accurate

[misty scarab]

Where I'm at

[stoic beacon]

I like how everyone has switched to Fahrenheit to relate better except for the one crackhead from Pennsylvania lmfao

[hearty spear]

okay this is a deal:
1440p 165Hz HDR400 32" Screen

• Mechanical Keyboard (probably crap, but wevs) for 193$ USD
  https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-x32-32-qhd-monitor-hyperx-alloy-origins-60-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-x32-mon-hyperx-kb-kit

[misty scarab]

Celsius is superior

Metric is superior**

[full fossil]

it's superior in some ways, not better in the subject we're talking about rn though

[misty scarab]

How

I can decide what to wear based off Celsius too

[stoic beacon]

Fahrenheit is better for relating temperatures and feel because of the accuracy that it provides

[full fossil]

0 is cold, 100 is hot

[hoary furnace]

sounds pretty good, although a lot of people don't think hdr400 particularly good hdr

[full fossil]

in celsius, 0 is cold, 100 is just literally dead

more accuracy in that range of temperatures

[hoary furnace]

Decimals are hard?

[misty scarab]

Below 0 = it's probably snowing
Above 100 = water boils you will die

50c upper limit of temperatures in like Saudi Arabia or something

See you can easily tell

[stoic beacon]

I don't know anybody that measures temperature with decimals outside of a lab

[short copper]

the best measurement is just the one youre most familiar with

[stoic beacon]

Google "advantage of Fahrenheit" and it'll help explain why

[hearty spear]

it may not be, but 193 for a 32" 1440p 165Hz display alone is pretty damned good

[short copper]

so one you can visualise

[misty scarab]

-20c tells me i should get a light jacket

Simple

[full fossil]

fahrenheit > celsius because america fuck yeah, there

[hoary furnace]

You rarely need that resolution anyway

and temperature varies so much, and by measuring it, eh

[hearty spear]

0f = really fucking cold
100f = really fucking hot

[hoary furnace]

are you really going to care about the difference between 21 and 22 f?

in a non-lab setting

[misty scarab]

0f isnt that cold

[hearty spear]

0c = Water says it's really cold
100c = Water says "OMG KILL ME"

[stoic beacon]

It's pretty cold when it makes air itself dangerous to breathe...

[hoary furnace]

-40 is pretty cold

[short copper]

0F for most of the world is pretty cold

[full fossil]

0f is in the negatives in celsius

[hearty spear]

Totally tolerable, but 0f is a health risk, so yes, 0f is really cold.

[misty scarab]

-20c is colder

[short copper]

no way!!!

[hearty spear]

100 Kelvin is even colder, but that doesn't mean anything about 0F

[short copper]

you mean to tell me that -20 is less than -17!! what an amazing observation

[full fossil]

with celsius, you need to get into the negatives to get the same resolution you could get with 1-100f

[misty scarab]

just cope

[full fossil]

indeed

[stoic beacon]

I'm pretty sure his mother told him that every time he pretends to use C in everyday Pennsylvania life, his dong will grow a micrometer

Or every time he pretends cold temperatures aren't cold

[full fossil]

oh dearie me

[hoary furnace]

or, just use decimals

theyre just number ranges

[misty scarab]

20c = hot
-20c = just a little cold

[full fossil]

decimals aren't used by the everyday person to measure weather

[misty scarab]

easy

[stoic beacon]

https://thevane.gawker.com/fahrenheit-is-a-better-temperature-scale-than-celsius-1691707793#:~:text=Fahrenheit gives you almost double,than Saint Celsius ever could.

[hoary furnace]

that's because temperature varies more than 1c (or 1f) a lot anyway

[full fossil]

it is pure preference to use fahrenheit or celsius, we're literally arguing over preference

[misty scarab]

how tall are you (in centimeters)

I am 167cm tall

[lethal copper]

I have an incredibly stupid and hard DIY project idea and I'm not sure if I should even think about it (especially as first project) but the concept would be useful and interesting

[stoic beacon]

What is it?

[polar fern]

kelvin timeline

[lethal copper]

So you know the sonic screwdriver from Dr who? Basically, an instrument that looks like that but just has a bunch of sensors like temperature, and an NFC card for metro payment

[full fossil]

I'm 183cm tall

which is 6 foot

[hoary furnace]

This just says "People are too dumb for decimals to deal with less than a 2f change in temperature"

[misty scarab]

cm >

[stoic beacon]

Might be hard to fit that in a small form factor like a screw driver without custom parts

[hoary furnace]

If you care about a smaller than 2f change in temperature, then you probably can figure out a decimal

[lethal copper]

It's stupid but it would be really funny to pay for metro pass with a BUZZZZZ

[full fossil]

it's preference

yeah, let me freeze to death while I'm carrying the 2 to figure out how cold it is.

I prefer the imperial system for most things, it doesn't matter

[hoary furnace]

because you'll freeze to death with a 2f difference, or 1f rounding error?

[lethal copper]

I know, I think I would need to 3d print a handle a bit bigger than a normal screwdriver. I'm thinking around 12cm length and a width of a flashlight

[timid plaza]

dumb quick question, for the pc uncharted game, is there a story continuous ? should i play uncharted 4 before lost legacy or does it not matter

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I would plan it out and see what you could come up with. Sounds like a fun project

[lethal copper]

And that for entirety of the instrument, funnily screwdriver would be the one thing it wouldn't be able to be used as

[stoic beacon]

Isn't that more accurate for a sonic screwdriver anyways?

I don't think it's ever been used as a screwdriver a single time, unless I missed it

[keen bough]

Guys I need help for a new phone and tablet should I do Samsung or apple?

[misty scarab]

depends

[stoic beacon]

There are a MILLION factors that influence that decision.

[lethal copper]

I have a rough plan, just need to figure out how big various sensors are and whether I can use a pi pico as computer module

[terse hornet]

play 4 first

[hoary furnace]

I also disagree with the picking and choosing part of it. The reason that people want conformity and everything in SI, is because conversion between units is SIs main benefit, and if you pick some units not to be in that series, then you lose that large benefit

[misty scarab]

Do you like sideloading

do you like a open source os

[full fossil]

are you invested in the Apple ecosystem?

if so, iPhone.. if not, invest in it, then get an iPhone

[timid plaza]

thanks for the quick response

[hoary furnace]

like how 1g of water is 1ml which is 1cm3

[stoic beacon]

iPads are generally the better choice in general for a tablet, but you can get the new Samsung tablets, which are pretty good

[misty scarab]

Samsung Tablets are pretty much the only android tablets worth the money

[keen bough]

I heard Samsung has DeX

[misty scarab]

DeX is cool

[full fossil]

honestly, as much crap as Apple gets (and deserves), if you're getting the devices to actually use and not tinker with, iOS is "better"

[stoic beacon]

Yes, though it's pretty pointless 99% of the time. It's also very laggy and pretty painful to use.

[polar fern]

do they still sell resistive screen tablets?

[short copper]

the thing that people dont understand about a lot of imperial measurements is that nobody needs to convert them, people use miles on their own and dont convert them. same with pints and gallons. And ones that you do convert, have like maybe one conversion that matters, feet - inches, ounce - pounds

[misty scarab]

no

[hoary furnace]

Apple is better by default, worse by configuration

[misty scarab]

its not laggy or painful

[keen bough]

So apple?

[stoic beacon]

Yes it is. Take it from somebody with a Fold and an S8 tablet.

[misty scarab]

againd epends

[stoic beacon]

I would say for your use case, go with Apple

[misty scarab]

I have a samsung too and it works

[lethal copper]

Pi pico can handle a basic pseudo OS, right? Just displaying some menus that can be navigated

[misty scarab]

you dont even know his use case

he hasnt told us

[lethal copper]

What are yall discussing? I heard mention of apple

[misty scarab]

he asked about dex and thats it

[lethal copper]

I personally switched to Samsung from an iPhone a week or 2 back

[stoic beacon]

If you didn't need a tablet, I'd recommend the Samsung, but since you want a tablet and phone, Apple will be the better choice

[keen bough]

Ok I think I will go with the 14

[hoary furnace]

#public-chat message

[stoic beacon]

Nice, enjoy! Keep in mind, the 14 Pro has an additional camera

[hoary furnace]

someone said "apple vs android" and well, the expected happened

[misty scarab]

I switched my iphone XR to Samsung S20 Plus

[lethal copper]

Nice

[misty scarab]

i love the samsung so much more

[lethal copper]

I switched iphone 12 to s22+

[short copper]

there are more brands than samsung and iphone too

[misty scarab]

^ this af

[keen bough]

Wait what I think I've been living under a rock

[misty scarab]

The Redmi 12 Pro comes with a charger in the box

[lethal copper]

I hope this is satire

[misty scarab]

the s22 and iphonr 14 dont

[stoic beacon]

True, but for somebody who does research in Discord as opposed to on Google, I wouldn't recommend anything else

[lethal copper]

I agree

[stoic beacon]

The Redmi also comes with crap build quality in the box

[misty scarab]

Id recomend others

[fluid ridge]

linus' new video stinks

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-a-apple-gunther-dennis-the-menace-gif-16878507

[lethal copper]

Lmao yes, using my iPhone 12's charger which was also bought separately for my s22+

[fluid ridge]

he really went from "adblock piracy" to "pay for 4k justified"

[lethal copper]

What's it about

[hoary furnace]

"YouTube SHOULD charge for 4K. Hear me out." spicy

[fluid ridge]

well i guess he is literally paid by google

[misty scarab]

my s20 plus came with a charger in the box and has micro sd

[fluid ridge]

but even then

[lethal copper]

Cool!

[misty scarab]

the s22 is newer and has less features than my s20 plus, modern phone logic

[lethal copper]

Personally never had a need for an SD card

[fluid ridge]

basically 20 minutes of linus justifying googles decision to potentially charge for 4k

[stoic beacon]

I mean, pay for 4k actually does make sense. 99% of the people I know just switch it to 4k no matter what their resolution is, or even if their screen size is 5 inches. It costs them way too much to justify providing a service to people that don't understand that bigger number =/= better.

[lethal copper]

I got 256gb too because it was cheaper than 128gb thanks to a sale

No idea what I'll use this space for, although with system taking 45gb I guess you'll never know

[misty scarab]

for mw 128gb was cheapest, and because 256 gb option was way more expensive than any SD card, i got a 128gb sd card

[fluid ridge]

if everything else is in a state of ceterus paribus, then bigger number does equal better

[misty scarab]

256 for way cheaper

[lethal copper]

I dlnt think SD cards have full functionality of normal syorage?

[stoic beacon]

They don't

[misty scarab]

it supports up to 1tb of microsd

[lethal copper]

I may be mistaken but last time I used an SD card it was super clunky

[hoary furnace]

not that much, merch is big driver, and they address thati n the video

[lethal copper]

Had to manually move apps there and it couldn't be used for all

[misty scarab]

on older android vers you could install apps to the sd card

now i think its just video n stuff

which my 256 combined is almost full, both of them

[fluid ridge]

not even just in terms of ad revenue, without youtube LMG would not exist

[hoary furnace]

if there was no alternative in its place, sure

[lilac sage]

Yup i had a phone with android 4.4 and installed tons of apps on there

[misty scarab]

I might need a bigger sd card

[fluid ridge]

there is no alternative to youtube

period, full stop

[lilac sage]

Dailymotion

[lethal copper]

I remember installing apps to my old tablet with SD, you can't anymore?!

[fluid ridge]

what the fuck is dailymotion

[misty scarab]

youtube vanced

[short copper]

yeah but if youtube didnt exist then there probably would be an alternative

because yknow, youtube wouldnt be as big as it is if it didnt exist

[lethal copper]

Rutube, VK video and Yandex Dzen are rising in my country

[misty scarab]

maybe? you can store .apks on it so theres that

[fluid ridge]

let me rephrase my statement

[misty scarab]

but i think all apps are installed to inernal now

[fluid ridge]

there is no alternative to youtube - there are other video hosting sites

[misty scarab]

also I use android cause YouTube Vanced

[lethal copper]

Um, maybe?

[fluid ridge]

which are dwarfed in terms of scale and magnitude of content

[hoary furnace]

but if youtube didnt exist, there probably would be.

oh someone said that already

[stoic beacon]

@fluid ridge You and I should go down to the local Wendy's and scream at the employees there for charging extra for more nuggets

[fluid ridge]

if the earth didnt exist there would be no google

[hoary furnace]

true

[fluid ridge]

i agree

sounds like a plan 🤝

fuck them nuggets getting expensive as balls

[muted relic]

Alright. I agree on making 4K paywalled, but only if they put Background playback back for free. That feature literally costs nothing.

[lethal copper]

I got no ads in my country, I wonder if I'll also be able to use 4k for free, or not use it at all

[fluid ridge]

what country

[lethal copper]

Yes!!!

[lethal copper]

Russia

[misty scarab]

Linus's 4k premium video has like 5.2k dislikes

[muted relic]

Background Playback does not increase bandwidth in any way.

[misty scarab]

Background playback is free

just use vanced

[stoic beacon]

This is the truest thing I've ever read on this Discord

[fluid ridge]

well you dont get ads because no company wants the bad publicity of marketing in russia

[full fossil]

my eyes glazed over about 3 minutes into that 4k video.

[muted relic]

Vanced was shut down and will stop working soon.

[fluid ridge]

in any other place it would make no sense to go 0 ads

if they paywall 4k they better not paywall 8k

[misty scarab]

it was set to stop working soon for how long now? and it still works

[stoic beacon]

That makes zero sense lol

[fluid ridge]

i paid for a GPU that can stream 8K i will use the GPU that can stream 8K

[full fossil]

I think he means pay for 4k plus pay more for 8k

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, and now you need to pay for them to stream 8k to you. Why is paying for stuff you use that costs others money such a huge issue for you?

[fluid ridge]

absolutely not

[lethal copper]

Actually no, it's because they literally fear a lawsuit because a lot of "smart" people used it for political ads

Literally had propaganda telling me I was subhuman on random websites

[misty scarab]

also ReVanced exists

[lethal copper]

Thanks google

[stoic beacon]

"We can't give this to you for free, it costs us too much."

"BUT I REALLLY WAAAAAHHHHNNNNT IT!!!!!!!"

-Triage, 2022

[lethal copper]

Now I have free premium

And background play when I use newpipe

[misty scarab]

I have free premium because I have Vanced lol

[lethal copper]

Ah yes, the negotiator

[stoic beacon]

You need to go to another channel for a bit, this conversation is a bit out of your depth, lol

[misty scarab]

and I have an adblocker on PC

[fluid ridge]

hey man, if you like paying 15 dollars a month for youtube premium, more power to you

[misty scarab]

how

its about paying for 4k

[lethal copper]

I don't use it because it requires some background stuff and my battery already isn't the best due to me spending so much screen on time in school

[stoic beacon]

I don't, but I don't demand stuff that costs money for free. What a childish thing to do.

[misty scarab]

i dont notice any battery issues

[fluid ridge]

i unfortunately do not and i will not stop complaining about the fact that they are running longer and longer ads yet shoving premium down your throats

[stoic beacon]

Man, you are cringe.

[fluid ridge]

and nothing is free, you are the product

[misty scarab]

this is true

[lethal copper]

Of course nothing is free

[fluid ridge]

especially with big tech

and especially with google

[stoic beacon]

For Triage, they should change it, so he can stream 4k video without premium, but he gets 20 ads per video to help pay for it

[lethal copper]

Wow welcome to real world happy to know you understand the basics

[lethal copper]

😂

[stoic beacon]

Then he's be satisfied, because it would cover the costs of streaming huge amounts of data to his device

And he wouldn't have to get premium. Problem solved

[misty scarab]

Adblocker

[stoic beacon]

It's funny how the gamer bros make fun of Karens, but then when it comes to tech, they are the biggest Karens on the entire planet

[misty scarab]

I dont complain about premium, I just installed vanced and forgot it existed

[stoic beacon]

I bet you use Celsius too, wtf

[misty scarab]

Whats wrong with an adblocker

[stoic beacon]

The fact that it's irrelevant to this conversation

[wispy marsh]

I use an adblocker, a dns blocker, an element filter and yt premium family

They are separate things that work wel together

[fluid ridge]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121207/youtube-google-alphabet-earnings-revenue-first-time-reveal-q4-2019

expensive sure, but they also make an astronomical amount of profit each year

[short copper]

? it isnt

[misty scarab]

I use adblocker, https filtering and yt vanced, was able to cancel premium

[misty scarab]

it isnt irrelevant at all

[fluid ridge]

of course they would make astronomical amounts of profit, since they sell your data and serve you a shit load of ads

[wispy marsh]

I just use premium because i can

[misty scarab]

were talking about youtube ads, so i suggested an adblocker

[wispy marsh]

It's only like $12 or $13 per family

[misty scarab]

No sense in paying for premium if I have vanced

[wispy marsh]

Cheaper than Apple One, but Apple One is also a suite of apps

[misty scarab]

I had the 9.99 ever since it was called Red, then they let me have premium for 9.99

but then I found vanced and cancelled it

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, but all the things you ever did and paid for is for yourself

[fluid ridge]

i believe disney+ was the catalyst for the premium subscription services

[wispy marsh]

You paid for youtube, I paid for youtube

We are not the same

[fluid ridge]

nobody gave a shit about yt red, twitter blue, etc. until +'s mega success

[lethal copper]

Actually I don't even have a use for 4k youtube

[fluid ridge]

i do

[misty scarab]

i dont

[fluid ridge]

4k looks good 😎

[lethal copper]

Are GPS sensors like an api you can make requests to?

[fluid ridge]

8k looks even better

[ocean narwhal]

I dont even fullscreen my videos on my 1080p screen, let alone 4k i dont even need 1080p

[lethal copper]

Wait, is it even possible to buy a GPS sensor? Is it a product?

[misty scarab]

I watch videos in 1440p

[ocean narwhal]

in what aspect r u talking

[lethal copper]

The sonic not-screwdriver project has fully taken my mind

[wispy marsh]

Well, if I can afford premium for the family easily and I don't mind paying to let my family not have ads, i'll gladly pay

[lethal copper]

Do you just have a thing in code that's like "GPS.get_coordinates()" and it asks satellites for stuff?

[keen bough]

Me to

[lethal copper]

Or you have to use some complicated math

[ocean narwhal]

For a phone or like some embedded project?

[misty scarab]

you do realise, you can create like 50 billion brand accounts under 1 google account

[wispy marsh]

Besides, the whole family is using iOS anyway

[misty scarab]

just create like a brand account for every family member, and put premium on the 1 google account

[lethal copper]

Embedded device, something like a raspberry pi

[misty scarab]

its cheaper that way

or you know, just sideload vanced,. hell even my grandma knows how to sideload apps

[hoary furnace]

GPS clients don't ask satelites 99% of the time

[misty scarab]

there is no vanced on ios btw, so if you are going to get an iphone 14 be aware

[ocean narwhal]

You can buy gps modules that connect to ur rpi to connect to satellites, and then there are software libraries that allow you do essentially just do gpsLibrary.getCoordinates()

[wispy marsh]

Doesn't really matter for most iPhone users

[lethal copper]

Thanks, awesome

[keen bough]

Know any good androids

[wispy marsh]

I've been using iPhones for the last 12 or 13 years

[misty scarab]

Depends

[lethal copper]

Hopefully making it use GLONASS instead is easy too

[misty scarab]

i personally switched my iphone out for Samsung but thats because my family always used samsungs

[hoary furnace]

https://www.amazon.com/microcontroller-compatible-sensitivity-navigation-positioning/dp/b07p8ymvnt $13 for an arduino

[wispy marsh]

Gonna sell my 12 pro max for a 14 because it's way too heavy

[lethal copper]

No Amazon in my country 🤠

Also I was thinking of using a Raspberry pi... pico? For this use maybe

[misty scarab]

every device that runs android is special in its own way, you got to know what you want

[hoary furnace]

just an example, there are lots of modules you can get to go with arduinos (easy hardware to start with)

[sweet grail]

People forgot google selling data 😒 Google knows the ways of the internet marketing. Use the marketing force luke

[hoary furnace]

there will be raspberry pi modules too

[misty scarab]

I might upgrade my s20 to a flip

[lethal copper]

Alright, thanks

[hoary furnace]

arduinos are just dumb raspberry pis, if you dont need the complication of the pi

[lethal copper]

Eh, I personally don't see the appeal compared to trade offs

[wispy marsh]

I'd run grapheneOS if I'd ever move to android

[misty scarab]

every iphone i ever owned I tried to jailbreak

because I wanted to sideload apps n stuff

then I realised what I really wanted was a android phone

[wispy marsh]

I see

[misty scarab]

it looks cool

[wispy marsh]

I don't mind paying for things

So, eh, just pay for it

[misty scarab]

sideloading isnt the same as piracy

sideloading is just installing an app that isnt in the appstore/playstore

[lethal copper]

Thinking back I think a Pi zero would be what could run the project I need, but I doubt I can fit, let alone power it inside a screwdriver

[misty scarab]

🙂

[lethal copper]

It would be more like a sonic fake-bottle!

[wispy marsh]

Well, nintendo doesn't wanna port games to iOS

[lethal copper]

GNSS in a bottle!

[misty scarab]

Why would they

its nintendo

[wispy marsh]

And I lost interest in nintendo games so i'll just use iOS

[misty scarab]

when do they ever do something pro consumer

[ocean narwhal]

Nintendo is shitters

[misty scarab]

Im just happy my phone included a fast charger

[wispy marsh]

Well, MHR on PC is a switch port

[misty scarab]

those things are expensive

[wispy marsh]

What

You mean a 65w charger?

[misty scarab]

people say : Oh you mean to tell me you dont already have a charger. NO I DONT! I SWITCHED PHONES THAT USE DIFFERENT PORTS

[wispy marsh]

Isn't it like only $40?

[misty scarab]

nop, 25w for phones. this isnt xiaomi

the redmi 12 pro comes with a 110w fast charger in the box

[wispy marsh]

Ah

[misty scarab]

the max it supports is like 25 anyway so using the 65w is just extra money

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, the stuff you get when they don't want to let you know they're abusing superuser privileges on your device

Kinda jealous sometimes

[misty scarab]

anyway if im paying 1200 for the phone, why not include the charger

also doesnt the extra plastic and extra box for a seperate charger make more waste for the enviornment

1 box vs 3 boxes

[wispy marsh]

It ain't my part to keep tabs on environmental health

[misty scarab]

the 1,900 dollar Z Fold 4 doesnt include a charger, and you will stil be called broke by apple fans despite your phone almost costing double theirs

[wispy marsh]

If things have to start somewhere, start with the rotten corpos at the top

[misty scarab]

1,900 for the base model btw

the fully decked out z fold 4 costs closer to 2300 iirc

[wispy marsh]

That's just samsung tryna charge you

[sweet grail]

I like the anker charger.

But in sense it does make sense to not have a charger after so many generations otherwise you will end up with 4+ chargers at home

[misty scarab]

1tb model

[wispy marsh]

I always sell the charger with the phone

[misty scarab]

so if I switch my iphone xr that came with a tiny dinky 5w usb a to lightning adapter, fuck me for not having a type c to c fast charger on my new galaxy right?

most people use the excuse you will end up with so many chargers but forget that people switch platforms

[wispy marsh]

I carry around a 20w usb c to lightning adaptwr that's the size of 1/3 my pinky, looped around the case of my airpods pro

[sweet grail]

Most people don't switch 😅

Apple is always a apple and Android is always a Android

[wispy marsh]

I can charge using both usb c and lightning

[misty scarab]

I have a A to C in my car, and a C to C for around the house

most devices use usb c anyway

[wispy marsh]

Nice

[misty scarab]

the ipad and macbook use usb c

why the fuck doesnt the iphone

[wispy marsh]

My ipad uses lightning

[misty scarab]

old

[wispy marsh]

It works, so eh

[vapid smelt]

Chargers are only $5 it's not the end of the world when companies don't include them

[wispy marsh]

Wanna hear something funny?

My 2017 iPad is still getting iOS updates

[vapid smelt]

As long as I get a cable with my phone I'm happy

[misty scarab]

it creates more waste to put the charger block and headphones in seperate boxes from the phones

3 boxes instead of 1

the $34.99 samsung charger came with my phone

[wispy marsh]

So the longevity of software support of iOS more than compensates for Apple's listed flaws

[misty scarab]

does it really tho

[wispy marsh]

Depreciation is also less exponential due to longevity

[misty scarab]

sure its still updated but they slow down your battery

and then tell you to just buy a new one

[wispy marsh]

I've had the battery for five years

Companies are not your friend, but five years for an iPad

[vapid smelt]

only one company sells ios phones that's why they hold value

[misty scarab]

my next phone might me a redmi

they actually include a charger

[wispy marsh]

Only one company devotes software updates of seven years or more to their phones

[vapid smelt]

I have over 8 wall chargers now

[misty scarab]

I have exactly 2 wall chargers that use USB Type C

[wispy marsh]

You're gonna be doctor octopus

[vapid smelt]

Android is slowly getting there think Samsung has 4 years now

[misty scarab]

4 official and then as much as the hardware supports via yourself and your fucking brain

[wispy marsh]

I believe the non-folding devices will reach 5 or more years

I don't see foldables lasting as long as 4 or 5 right now tbh

[misty scarab]

instead of corperate bootlicking and buying a new phone once they stop supporting it, just rom it and install the latest aosp

[wispy marsh]

I have other things to do than fiddle with a phone

Oh shot

[misty scarab]

not really fiddling with it

[wispy marsh]

You just remind me that I wanted to complete an AWS administrator course

[misty scarab]

you ios people really think anything slightly technical is too hard and cba to even think about doing it

[wispy marsh]

That's not design thinking

That's traditional assumption

[misty scarab]

90% of the iphone users i talk to complain when I talk about sideloading, roms, customisation, etc

[wispy marsh]

Nah because i got sick of doing that

If I wanted something fun i'd just go spin up a vm

Not something that i daily drive and rely on

[misty scarab]

no need to a kali laptop

i can run kali linux on my phone

eye us cali linox pls praize me i teh epix haxor man

fear meh

[hollow pulsar]

Thanks for generalizing.

[wispy marsh]

The winner stands alone

It's a good book

If you want me to be genuinely insinuating, I can recommend you this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Adult-Children-Emotionally-Immature-Parents/dp/1626251703

I can only hope you have the capability to change your world view after reading it.

Speaking of which

I really appreciate how Linus speaks of his family on the wan show

Like, he knows the pitfalls and dangers of the open internet and sets his family up on a good ground

There was this wan show where he spoke of how he regulates his children's internet access in a healthy way that incorporates trust between his kids and him

[polar fern]

mhm

[wispy marsh]

I really liked that

[wraith sonnet]

1984 needs to be mandatory

[wispy marsh]

I need to get that sometime soon

[wraith sonnet]

the alchemist needs to be moved to a senior year instead of junior year as well

gatsby needs to actually be read

anne frank needs to be in history class not english

that's my hot takes on required reading

actually the giver shouldn't be read in junior high school at all

swap it for october sky

[gilded quest]

Amateur

[gilded quest]

Rocket Boys is one of the best books I've ever read

[wispy marsh]

Giver is a elementary school read

[wraith sonnet]

I had it in eighth, no one understood it

[wispy marsh]

[wraith sonnet]

either that or the teacher realized that it was too high concept for kids that were just waking up

[wispy marsh]

It's the struggles of having memory of a dying race in a veiled dystopia

[wraith sonnet]

at fuck o clock in the morning there was a reason my eighth grade teacher gave up

I'm not saying it shouldn't be required reading but it shouldn't be until the average student can really comprehend it

so, sophomore year ig

[wispy marsh]

ig

Flour Babies was a sophomore read too

[fluid ridge]

chances are, if you need to sideload an app, the app is ass or malicious

[wispy marsh]

Might've been an emulator

[fluid ridge]

apple manually reviews app code on all apps on the app store, shit that is malicious or looks horrendous is not accepted

[wispy marsh]

Apple has strict takedown rules for emulator apps

[fluid ridge]

dont they offer a windows emulator called bootcamp

[wispy marsh]

They made it

And x86 processors also offers official windows support

So vmware and parallels ran that too ofc

I'm referring to stuff like dslite or ps2 emulation on iOS

Apple don't want that shit on their appstore

Either do a proper port and pay apple the dev money plus 15% cut, or don't put up an app at all

[ocean narwhal]

Moron take

[leaden gale]

Boot Camp isn't an emulator IIRC

[ocean narwhal]

I think bootcamp just helps you install it or smth

Because Mac is so ass you can't just boot into an install media

[fluid ridge]

"apple manually reviews app code on all apps on the app store, shit that is malicious or looks horrendous is not accepted" - me 1 message later

[leaden gale]

Boot Camp is just for partitioning and installation IIRC

[ocean narwhal]

Yeah that automatically means anything not in the store is malicious?

[fluid ridge]

????

[ocean narwhal]

I'm sure everything on fdroid is really the scum of all software

[fluid ridge]

who said anything about that

[night heron]

ya mama

[fossil frost]

epic games store...

neither... just disliked by apple

[hollow pulsar]

They straight-up ignored an App Store rule.

[fluid ridge]

epic games store because epic broke apple tos?

pretty malicious to undercut the platform youre using 🗿

[fossil frost]

that doesnt matter, its neither "ass" nor malicious

[fluid ridge]

when i say ass i mean the app looks bad

apple will reject apps that do not meet a certain visual threshold

[runic lagoon]

Bootcamp is windows drivers, boot picker (because m1 uses iBoot not efi), extra.

[fossil frost]

apple will reject apps that conflict with their business interests, even if that conflict isnt disclaimed against in the TOS, apple will reject apps that the individual reviewer for that app that day, just felt like it. apple will reject apps for no other reason than apple doesnt want that app on their store

apple can and do, reject apps where the app developers political views do not align with apples customer facing political views (their left wing/centre customer facing views do not match their very very right wing practices and right wing group funding)

apple can and do, do whatever they want with a product that a customer bought, and owns... because they know once they ensnare that customer, it doesn't matter, they will keep going back and keep giving apple more money

apple can and do abuse their cult status

[stable snow]

[novel ridge]

What keyboard feels the most like the old unibody/retina MacBook Pro keyboards?

As the moshi Luna is a pain to find, and the only one I know of, aside the flat top iMac keyboards is basically just an rgb iMac keyboard

[patent mantle]

yo wassup

[sweet grail]

I forgot fortnight went to sideload

Because of the 30% cut on apple and Google play store some companies will try to avoid

[fossil frost]

they went to sideload because they already had methods to pay for ingame content that didnt go through the app store, and if you paid for something via their site, and you were able to use it within the iphone version, apple wanted 30% of that... so they essentially wanted 30% of all sales that epic made, for any game that epic published on the iphone

thats the bit that apple dont really talk about... they wanted 30% of all sales... everything... not just appstore sales

and apple played it as "epic are bypassing the appstore"

[mellow acorn]

I wonder if this is LTT approved.

[polar fern]

the radius does not change

[hearty spear]

I'm assuming D-Brand?

seems like their style of trolling

[sweet grail]

I could see it making it more precise in a way, not by a lot though

[mellow acorn]

Yeah that is dBrand

[polar fern]

longer stick = slower travel

[tiny moss]

= more precision

[split fulcrum]

What is this my laptop with fedora suddenly started to TURN ON when i close the lid like wtf

[full fossil]

Hi guys i need help with my Math problem. Here is the problem: there are two coffees 8kg A and 5kg B together they cost 80.50 dollars.
I need to figure out how much 1 kg coffee A and B costs. The cost of 1kg Coffee B is 30% less then 1kg coffee A

[fossil frost]

ask in a "will you do my homework for me" discord, not a tech discord

[full fossil]

😏

[full fossil]

Can u do it?

[polar fern]

that is a lot of coffee

[full fossil]

Yes

[polar fern]

pro tip: percent = out of 100

[full fossil]

👏

But how do i solve it

[fossil frost]

you work it out

and dont ask somebody on the internet to do it for you

[full fossil]

I worked it out but couldnt do it so i ask for help

[polar fern]

use 100 as your guide my friend

[split fulcrum]

use simultaneous equations or whatever it translates to english

[polar fern]

no you use multiples or divisions of 100

[split fulcrum]

is this like primary school math or some shit

[sweet grail]

< terrible at math

[polar fern]

i am legit telling you how to do the thing

[full fossil]

Its for 12th class

[fossil frost]

https://math.stackexchange.com/ post your workings out to here, somebody will help you or validate your work

but nobody is going to do your homework for you

[split fulcrum]

that CAN NOT be 12th grade math bro

what country you in?

[full fossil]

Austria

[polar fern]

wow lets be rude to the person in the discord chat because of a math problem (no dont)

[split fulcrum]

no I'm literally baffled you can have math that easy but yeah

[polar fern]

who are you to judge?

[fossil frost]

feel free to send me the answer with your workings out, and ill validate that this is as easy as you think it is

[rough cipher]

don't they call it maths in Australia?

[sweet grail]

Not everyone is good at math

[fossil frost]

they do, but the guy doesnt live in australia

[sweet grail]

Or depending on what there doing

[split fulcrum]

would this be the math

[fossil frost]

dont post it in chat

[split fulcrum]

oh nvm cant paste

[split fulcrum]

why

[fossil frost]

because you would end up posting the answer that they are looking for, that they would blindly copy, and never learn

[polar fern]

i mean being xenophobic and ableist is one way to go about using ltt discord but i doubt you'll find it how the rules are set up to have it be used

[split fulcrum]

well dont worry they wouldnt if I paste the text form

[fossil frost]

DM me the answer with your workings out, and ill tell you if you are correct

[full fossil]

That means u know the answer?

[rough cipher]

would it be an appropriate tech answer to say https://www.reddit.com/r/mathshelp/

[fossil frost]

it means i worked it out in my head after about 20 seconds of reading the question, yes, but im not going to tell anybody the answer in chat, because then as i said, you will copy it and not learn

[fossil frost]

yep, which is why i suggested the math stackexchange

[full fossil]

I would copy and try to learn how u did it so i can use that in other problems

[split fulcrum]

this is a good way to go IMO

[rough cipher]

sorry... my first day in this discord and i'm trying to figure out how to make it tech-related 😛

[polar fern]

its fine just follow the discord rules (be nice)

[full fossil]

I just want the answer i tried to solve this problem for over 1 hour

And wanna know how to solve it

[split fulcrum]

wish I had paper I could write it out step by step real quick

[fossil frost]

as we have said... reddit mathhelp, or stackexchange math

[polar fern]

ripped

you use the number 100

per cent is per 100

[ripe jacinth]

anyone knows a working discord client/version compatible with android 4.4.2?

[polar fern]

gibberish, neat 😛

[full fossil]

How did u get the 0.7?

[gilded quest]

B is 30% less than A

[fossil frost]

congratulations, you just did their homework for them, so they are gonna copy it verbatim and never learn how the answer was arrived at... you have just had a negative affect on their education

[rugged ferry]

Can you please send all of this to [e-mail]. This will get forwarded to the right person, since I don't really do Front-end stuff.

[sweet grail]

😬 I still don't get it

[gilded quest]

It's just turning words into algebra

[polar fern]

my brain freely associates numbers ie my guesses areusually correct but if i try to "think" the problem it just gets stuck

[fossil frost]

then do what you planned to do all along. copy it in your own hand writing, and hand it in tomorrow, then come back next week with the next problem you are stuck on, and have somebody swoop in and do that for you too, because now you will expect people to do your work for you instead of doing it yourself

[polar fern]

but i am too sleep deprived right now to do any of that x-x

[gilded quest]

did you at least understand how to set up the first equation?

[full fossil]

Bro then i wouldnt learn smth bc i donr kniw how abd now i know how and can use thid information on other problems

[unkempt brook]

Meh. I think that Linus is really missing the biggest downside of paywalling 4K on YouTube: way less channels are going to bother with the added cost and time involved with making and uploaded 4K video if almost nobody can watch them anymore.

[sweet grail]

I only passed algebra with a C 😅

[polar fern]

youtube smart tv app not playing 4k on a 4k tv seems really stupid - why should anyone pay for that? upscalling often looks terrible especially on the larger screens

[fossil frost]

And I think you missed the fact that he said that the number of pixels in a frame doesn't matter at all

He even showed how a 1080p image can shit all over a 4k image

[gilded quest]

it's worthwhile understanding how algebra actually works. It's super fundamental in a lot of math and science that comes after it

[fossil frost]

People who care about 4k only care because they want to justify their terrible purchase decision

[steep fox]

does anyone know why Nvidia cards are given so much credit for subpar performance compared to AMD? my benchmarks clearly show that the 6700XT performs better than the 3060Ti

[polar fern]

so having a 4k tv = terrible decision?

[unkempt brook]

Yes, but we're not going to get higher bitrate for 1080p

[gilded quest]

NVENC and RT

there is still the stigma that AMDs encoders are crap

[unkempt brook]

Also, for lots of the kinds of videos I like, the extra detail IS useful.

[steep fox]

granted I have only benchmarked Ray Tracing for one game on my YT channel, but there was barely any difference between the two cards

[split fulcrum]

I gave the guy an answer because he wanted it (in my opinion I learn good if I get the solution and I can help myself understand if I didn't listen)

[unkempt brook]

Fundamentally, paywalling 4K is bad for everybody, even premium uses.

[steep fox]

Ray tracing also gaurantees less than 60 FPS for most games. I'm really struggling to see what the hype is about

[gilded quest]

what if they paywalled 4k but upped the bitrate?

[split fulcrum]

lmao probably won't up the bitrate too much

[gilded quest]

as a premium subscriber, doesn't really make a difference to me what they do

[unkempt brook]

Except it does.

[polar fern]

"as someone who has the resources to not care - i don't"

[split fulcrum]

The bandwidth costs are really massive, I tried to host Jellyfin on a server and damn the bandwidth went quick with some 4k content

[unkempt brook]

4K Paywall = smaller audience for 4K video = fewer creators bothering to create 4K content

I have premium too.

[split fulcrum]

Also 4k is still the future, like 1080 for phones is fine but I do sometimes see pixels on 1080p phones if I'm close. 4k monitors are also too big for 4k if you don't want to see pixelation

[gilded quest]

4k has been the future for the past decade lol

[unkempt brook]

TV is 4K these days. 4K paywall makes YouTube on TV less good.

[gilded quest]

me_irl

[polar fern]

its not a compliment

[unkempt brook]

Maybe they whitelist TV YouTube clients for 4K.

[split fulcrum]

I mean isn't the TV audience quite small in total

[gilded quest]

If they could reduce the number of ads on the platform by paywalling 4k, it might be a net benefit for the average user

[polar fern]

i dont care about ads

[split fulcrum]

That's ridiculous, why would you ever watch ads before videos

I have ad blockers everywhere for a reason

And I'm so happy

I can barely bother to even watch a video if it has ads nowadays

[fossil frost]

Will be immediately exploited

[split fulcrum]

(Movies with like 15min of ads before isn't a problem cause you can talk with a friend but for videos it's ass)

[carmine copper]

man i need floatplane, they do any 7 day trails lol?

[unkempt brook]

Maybe they could also unlock 4K videos for channel members. That would give channels a reason to use YouTube Membership over Patreon

[fossil frost]

Tbh, the reason I don't sub to floatplane is because you subscribe to individual creators and not the platform

[split fulcrum]

How can anyone stand ads cause they're stupid and I will never watch ads for free services. It's the company's problem and they don't deserve my ad money, if they cost money I'll pay for it but not to remove ads if there is a sufficient free tier

[gilded quest]

Floatplane has sort of ended up being the patreon model

[unkempt brook]

Old-school TV style ads are fine.

YouTube style ads that just sort of insert themselves in the middle of a sentence are garbage.

[carmine copper]

i just wanna watch the bts stuff on ltt

[gilded quest]

Netflix ads are gonna be so bad

most of netflix's originals aren't edited with breaks in mind

[unkempt brook]

I have YT Premium and Floatplane. I subscribe to lots of Patreons. I don't mind paying for content. I just think that paywalling 4K is going to make YouTube worse for me in the long run.

[fossil frost]

Almost like YouTube needs a tool for creators to say "this point is the best point to insert midroll adds". And only do random inserts if a creator didn't do that

[polar fern]

i dont cre about ads and i dont want ad blockers. ive watched tv since the 80's i think i can handle some marking nonsense - my brain basically blocks it all out

[unkempt brook]

On ad-supporyed video platforms like Freevee or Tubi, they don't even put ads in the original ad breaks.

[gilded quest]

I just want youtube to get rid of "videos marketed for kids" if i am on an account that can see non-kid content

[unkempt brook]

They just put them in random places and it's annoying.

[gilded quest]

like why can't kids videos be viewed in miniplayer on mobile?

[split fulcrum]

guess it's gonna be easier to start using qbit again :)

than watch ads unless i can block em

[fossil frost]

Only children complain about ads, children who think everything should be spoon fed to them for free. The same children who can't be arsed to go their own homework

[unkempt brook]

Ads are fine. Ads the way web video platforms do them are terrible

[gilded quest]

i've gotten to the point that for all the TV streamers, i just let the new content build up over a year and then binge each service for a month at a time and cancel

[unkempt brook]

For example, I don't mind Linus Sponsor Segues.

[split fulcrum]

Okay? I'm not demanding it for free but the company has a shitty business model, they don't deserve my money for ads. I can pay if it costs outright, but a free ad funded plan, no ads or no deal thanks

[split fulcrum]

yeah

[unkempt brook]

The cable TV channel or model of "all the ads and you pay big bucks to watch" model is trash.

[gilded quest]

Netflix used to be great when they actually had content

[fossil frost]

I stand by what I said

[gilded quest]

now they charge $20+ for 4k/hdr

[polar fern]

amazon prime has a discount tier for people on public assistance and students. if a behemoth like amazon can figure it out, i think google can.

[unkempt brook]

Netflix with Ads isn't enough cheaper than full Netflix to be worth it.

[split fulcrum]

Lmao there is quite a wide variety of people and you're quite ignorant to call everyone unwilling to watch ads kids

[split fulcrum]

This is a genious business model to get more money

Like small, medium and large popcorn at a theater

[unkempt brook]

As I said. I don't mind ads. On TV, I'll watch them. Back when YT only did prerolls, I didn't even mind them. The way that modern streaming platforms do ads now is just terrible.

[night heron]

tfw movie tickets are like $6 but the large popcorn is like $9

and the popcorn tastes disgusting anyway

[split fulcrum]

What theater are you going to :/

butter popcorn or butter-cheese is amazing

pure salt and butter

[night heron]

it just tastes burnt and overly salty

[unkempt brook]

Popcorn is usually cheap to make you want to buy the overpriced soda.

[night heron]

i can make popcorn out of a bag at home taste 500x better

[night heron]

plus it's room temp by the time the movie starts anyway

[split fulcrum]

If you cook popcorn yourself it's much better that's true

[split fulcrum]

perhaps I'm lucky where I live then

[unkempt brook]

Most movie theater popcorn is better than microwave popcorn

Haven't been to a theater since some time in 2018 or 19, though.

[split fulcrum]

Yeah, but microwave popcorn isn't too bad either if it's one of the good ones

[night heron]

orville redenbacher kettle corn in a microwavable bag is better than any theater corn ive had

[fossil frost]

People who are so ignorant of the world that they believe that they deserve everything for free and exactly the way they want it, are either children, or so immature, they may as well be children

[unkempt brook]

Pop Secret Homestyle

[night heron]

orville>>>>>popsecret

[fossil frost]

I'm not ignorant. I just know how the world works and have spent a lot of time around a lot of different types of people and know how a lot of people work

[balmy zodiac]

anybody from the US in this chat? i'm from europe and i have a friend going to the US, i've wanted an iphone for a while now, do you know if the prices in apple stores are cheaper than the online prices?
the iphone 12 would be 679 dollars which wouldn't really be worth it online

[night heron]

i like how half of chat is talking about popcorn and half of chat is talking about the morality of ads

[unkempt brook]

Also. Why do all microwave popcorn bags say not to use the popcorn button, yet using then popcorn button always works better than following the instructions on the bag.

[split fulcrum]

But I, for example, don't think like that. I don't deserve it, just that they don't deserve my time or money if they have a shit business model. If they have a paid business model, then I pay if I need them, but not if their free tier is sufficient. Thus not the same...

[split fulcrum]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

[night heron]

i would rather they lower the bitrate on 4k for free users than eliminate it altogether

[gilded quest]

The ad tier is still 720p SDR

[willow patrol]

probably online

[night heron]

the horrible upscaling on tvs and monitors makes high bitrate 1080p look way worse than lower bitrate 4k

[willow patrol]

apple stores are like the premium facade so they wont have sales that often

[balmy zodiac]

oh okay

[unkempt brook]

If content has ad breaks built in but your platform is too dumb to use them, that's a no for me.

[balmy zodiac]

what about amazon?

[night heron]

ill take 15megabit 4k over 40megabit 1080p if im using a 4k display

[willow patrol]

look outside of the official apple store if you're comfortable with that

[night heron]

the bad upscaling makes the bitrate worthless

[compact flicker]

Really ? How's that ?

[willow patrol]

yea amazon is a good place

[unkempt brook]

1080p usually looks pretty good on 4K, though.

[fossil frost]

You think it's not ignorant for you to assume you know better than very highly paid very intelligent people who designed that business model?

[night heron]

cap

[split fulcrum]

Also he might have to pay import tax depending on price, right?

[unkempt brook]

If you want bad, try 1080p on a 1440p screen

[willow patrol]

well yea ofc but amazon is also in the UK/Europe

[night heron]

because tvs and monitors have intentionally blurry and inefficient upscaling

[split fulcrum]

I don't know better, I just beat the system because it's easy. They are betting on people not doing what I'm doing too much, but I don't give a single shit :)

[unkempt brook]

I'll bet that 720p literally looks better on some 1440p screens with bad upscaling

[night heron]

because perfect pixel upscaling looks blocky and unnatural, and AI upscaling is too demanding to be performed by a monitor/tv's processor

tvs are dramatically better than monitors though

[compact flicker]

That makes sense, thank you.

[split fulcrum]

They are just providing a vulnerable business model and I'm exploiting it legally :))

[night heron]

at handling low bitrate and low resolution content

[polar fern]

let me ust put it this way: amazon has 4k sreaming on a two tier system full and discount. if google cant figure out how to do full and discount then its not about money its about thy dont care about content or streamlining their delivery backend

[night heron]

a fuzzy image looks more natural than a blocky sharp pixelated one when we're talking about watching media with real people

[fossil frost]

And no, I don't over estimate my abilities or intelligence, I'm will aware that I'm an amateur at psychology

[unkempt brook]

I've never seen a decent 4K TV that makes 1080p look bad.

[night heron]

yeah tvs handle upscaling and bitrate substantially better than monitors do

[unkempt brook]

Maybe some $299 Walmart specials do.

[night heron]

usually high bitrate 1080p bluray movies look totally fine

tvs are also like 50x more powerful than a monitor so

[polar fern]

science/engineering/art videos on a 4k display upscaled from 1080p often garbage

[night heron]

and arent concerned with how long the processing takes

[unkempt brook]

Video cards can often do integer scaling

[night heron]

non-gaming modes on tvs usually have like 50-100ms of input delay

[split fulcrum]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias

[unkempt brook]

Also, even in game mode, most TVs do a pretty great job with 1080 to 2160 upscaling

[night heron]

true that

i wish monitors handled content as well as tvs do

there's so much more noise and fuzz when upscaling on a monitor

[split fulcrum]

If you sit far enough anything will look fine :D

At a normal sitting distance they do a good job though

[unkempt brook]

video cards can do pixel perfect upscaling.

[night heron]

yeah it's a setting you can enable

but when i did nothing changed so

[unkempt brook]

In general 1080 to 2160 is easy mode.

[night heron]

1080p looks horrible on my 43" 4k monitor

even using source quality blu ray

and sitting further away than usual

1080p on a native 1080p panel looks dramatically better

[unkempt brook]

I'll bet it would look great on a C2 or whatever

[night heron]

when i used a 27" 1080p and a 27" 1440p monitor i would watch everything on the 1080p panel

it was monstrous how much better it looked

[unkempt brook]

1080 to 1440 is actually much harder to do well than 1080 to 2160

[night heron]

in theory yeah but i dont think any tvs perform perfect double pixel upscaling for 1080p-4k

[unkempt brook]

There are 4K monitors that can do 1080p well. There are no 1440p ones that can do the same.

[night heron]

when i watch media on my monitor i just view it in original size

instead of forcing fullscreen

[unkempt brook]

1440 is great for native res and using with an outboard upscaler for retro content.

Not so good for 1080p

[night heron]

doesnt the framemeister only go up to 1080p, does the ossc support line multiplying to 1440p?

[unkempt brook]

Retrotink does 1440p

[night heron]

the only analog console i use is a wii

i just use a 480p hdmi converter and let the tv do the upscaling because i use it so infrequently

crank the sharpness and it looks fine enough to play wii tennis

[atomic oxide]

Is 240hz 1440p worth it?

[night heron]

yah

1440p 240hz is a fantastic option for pc gaming at this moment

[atomic oxide]

So it’s worth spending $800+?

[unkempt brook]

Using that with a Retrotink and a 1440p monitor will look better

[night heron]

it doesnt cost that much

you can get 1440p 240hz monitors for $260-450

[atomic oxide]

I’m Canadian, it does

[night heron]

is your market availability that poor

because converted the price doesnt go up to 800

[atomic oxide]

It’s Canada, what do you expect

[night heron]

i just bought a 32" odyssey g7 for $450 renewed this week, it arrives this friday

amazon has 90 day free returns on renewed products so i dont care

[supple topaz]

Hi y’all 😬👋 (interrupts chat)

[night heron]

hi

[atomic oxide]

I also hate curved, and curved is cheaper is what I’ve seen

[polar fern]

chat interruption? how dare!

[eager notch]

Ligma

[atomic oxide]

Balls

[eager notch]

Tennis

[night heron]

1440p 240hz flat ips panels are still only $3-400 in the us

im sorry for you if theyre $800cad that blows

[atomic oxide]

$719 is the cheapest I’ve seen

Especially on Amazon

Plus it’s MSI

[night heron]

eh brand means nothing

gotta look at the performance of individual products

[atomic oxide]

So you’re saying gigabyte monitors are fine?

[unkempt brook]

Yes, usually.

[night heron]

i cant say any brand's monitors are fine

you need to look at reviews for individual products not base things on entire brands

[unkempt brook]

Hardware Unboxed does the best monitor reviews.

[night heron]

every brand has shitty and good products