public-chat

[edgy moss]

https://www.ebay.com/p/15053345155?iid=294905464183

[wraith sonnet]

X570 itx tb3 would like a word with you

[eager swan]

swag

[vapid smelt]

ew asrock

[eager swan]

are the am4 and am5 chips the same/similar dimensions? i havent looked into the actual dimensions much before

[edgy moss]

they are similar

[eager swan]

yeah i think the actual case thing on top is slightly different dimension wise

actual chip size is still 40mm x 40mm

[wraith sonnet]

It's the weirdest x570 mobo I've seen

[edgy moss]

Intel Xeon Phi 7210

a 64 core cpu for 80 dollars

[wraith sonnet]

1.3 ghz

[edgy moss]

true

[wraith sonnet]

Gigahertz means nothing normally but in this case...

[edgy moss]

this boosts up to 3.7ghz

20c40t

[wraith sonnet]

Much better

[edgy moss]

I wonder what I could even use that for

[dreamy rose]

Would that work for VR?

[edgy moss]

uhhh

I would assume so. they are pretty decent cores

its skylake at up to 3.7ghz

[full fossil]

skylake is a W

[edgy moss]

with something like this, you could make a really decent server

oh boy.

[eager swan]

2015 cpu interesting

[edgy moss]

2015?

[eager swan]

is it 2015

[edgy moss]

The intel website says 2018

[eager swan]

skylake was launched 2015 maybe it came out in 2018

yeah its 2018 i am Big Dumb

[wraith sonnet]

God I love hedt but I also hate hedt

[edgy moss]

I should do what linus did and build my dream pc from when i was little

[full fossil]

which was?

[edgy moss]

I guess I'll figure that out

for CPU im thinking 6700k or 5960x

[full fossil]

for me it was a 9900K and 2080ti

I'm not that old

[wraith sonnet]

I basically have my dream PC minus three parts

[edgy moss]

cool

i own a 6700k already

[full fossil]

what parts do you have, and what parts are missing?

[wraith sonnet]

One of them is a fan

[edgy moss]

so i suppose thats economical

[wraith sonnet]

I'm missing the 5800x3d, an nf a14x25 and a 3x hot swap bay painted beige

[full fossil]

nice!

what about the parts that you have

[wraith sonnet]

Alternatively I could go the extra mile and get the nhd15 but

[full fossil]

nhd15 is dumb to buy considering you can get a cooler with the same performance for like 40$

[wraith sonnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NedOfTheNet/saved/2Hw2xr

It's in some weird ATX case from 1999 or some shit

[full fossil]

that's a pretty nice pc

[wraith sonnet]

The vision d is a beautiful board, I just need to find a thunderbolt dock for it

[full fossil]

the gigabyte vision 3070 is also beautiful

[wraith sonnet]

Unironically using 1030 as a PhysX card in 2022

[vapid smelt]

hows Minnesota

[edgy moss]

Minnesota? I dont live there

[wraith sonnet]

I've sworn off buying any new Nvidia parts until they change their behavior

[full fossil]

fair

[vapid smelt]

wisconsin*

[edgy moss]

buy used

[full fossil]

nvidia is being fucking terrible

[edgy moss]

its amazing 😍

[wraith sonnet]

That's why I said new

[full fossil]

is it sketchy to buy used cpu's?

[wraith sonnet]

Yes and no?

[fathom meadow]

whats linus discord

[vapid smelt]

your zip code is in the bottom of the screen shots thats why im saying this

[edgy moss]

depends

[edgy moss]

Hmmm I see

[full fossil]

used 12600k

[wraith sonnet]

I wouldn't buy a 13900k off someone...

Especially when "I have never held a 13900k"

[dreamy rose]

you'd regret saying that, later

[full fossil]

damn lots of people are selling 30 series cards on ebay

[dreamy rose]

what do you expect? Crypto is dead

[full fossil]

plus 40 series, lots of people are selling

[wraith sonnet]

Don't buy them if they look discolored, those 3080s from Pakistan are everywhere and are disgusting

[dreamy rose]

what the fuck discolors a GPU?

[wraith sonnet]

A power washer

[full fossil]

being counterfeit

[dreamy rose]

oh right yeah forgot about that shit

[full fossil]

how hard would it be to theoretically use this in a desktop

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225044264927?epid=26055652424&hash=item3465aef7df%3Ag%3AIYsAAOSwZ~JilsYJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoEXwY5IgSlgGMdAbB0z73sXv8QxqGOWnpXIvz1qIuZFTq34T8ZbL24JpyM4yQZEP4Iu4tYRuAn35Z6Qq9zlaMjYOL2034SJHgaojR01UPR87c89cZk9McnXFojjg4tfMdKvXH2n7a8XS2y54D1AqmZ8zeYhoFy2HNMtxsTk0Sx%2BqUIp6HH5QoUsEZ5Ku7yMsOGYlp2ZMVZ0QDZKNOzN5CYQ%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_Kt7b78YA&LH_BIN=1

[dreamy rose]

as i've said time and time before. the 3000 series is forever gonna be one of the worst generations to look back on in 15-20 years or so when you wanna make an Old build.

[fluid ridge]

a sleeper implies the PC will be fast

[dreamy rose]

throwing shade at the 2070 i see

[fluid ridge]

2070 is not very fast nor is the 3600

[full fossil]

2070 is still a respectable card

[wraith sonnet]

The system literally had a pentium d in it before this is a sleeper compared to that

[fluid ridge]

ah

[wraith sonnet]

Not to mention the 1030 is only for PhysX not gaming

[full fossil]

nice!

[wraith sonnet]

I play way too much borderlands 2

[full fossil]

lmao

Same man, same

[dreamy rose]

is the 1030 OK for Wii/U Emulation

[wraith sonnet]

Is a piece of hardware with 3-1.5x the VRAM of x console okay at emulating these consoles?

Tbh it would be more appropriate to emulate with a Radeon GPU but it should be fine

[dreamy rose]

4K

[wraith sonnet]

Neither console could even get close to 720p let alone 4k

[full fossil]

they could do 1080p

[wraith sonnet]

The Wii could do 1080?

[full fossil]

yes

I played both at 1080p

[wraith sonnet]

What sorcery would allow that?

[full fossil]

that was before my grandpa stole my wii....

[dreamy rose]

1080i

[full fossil]

^

[wraith sonnet]

Oh 1080i makes sense

So wait is the switch entirely a downgrade from the Wii u?

[dreamy rose]

just like the sponsor of todays video!

[full fossil]

I'm watching venom 2 for the first time

[dreamy rose]

more RAM, as of the OLED model More storage too

[full fossil]

pulseway!

[wraith sonnet]

X86 to arm 1080p to 720p?

Genuinely surprised there wasn't some sort of dlss in the switch

[full fossil]

the wiiu had a range limit, the switch is standalone

[dreamy rose]

Wii and Wii U were PowerPC

[wraith sonnet]

Fair enough

[dreamy rose]

Wii U was Tri Core

[wraith sonnet]

So Wii games on the PS3?

[dreamy rose]

maybe with a Recompile

[full fossil]

I'm gonna rewatch the boys and reacher

[dreamy rose]

the 360 though. that would do Wii

[full fossil]

the 360 was PowerPC?

I did not know that

[dreamy rose]

360 was better that gen anyway. it had a pool of 512 MB that it could split. made many games playable there that PS3 Couldn't

[full fossil]

I loved my 360

But I sold it to my uncle for 200 when I was like 9 and wasted it all

[dreamy rose]

360 was the favorite back when i had mine. it went 360, Wii, Vita then PS3

[wraith sonnet]

Why was that generation all power PC anyways?

[dreamy rose]

though i had most of my games on PS3, i found the hardware to be. not interesting.

the Vita has the capability to stream your PS3 and 4 games. like the Wii U Gamepad.

we used it once on each and never could get it to do it again

[full fossil]

damn

[wraith sonnet]

Okay I guess it was because apple jumped ship that it was cheap enough for consoles to use it

[dreamy rose]

that probably would have been something that contributed to it

[wise tundra]

It is but iirc there was some shenanigans that the tri-core design was super sketchy and some issues

I don't remember the details

[dreamy rose]

All i've heard about the Wii U was why it failed and the USB Problem

[wraith sonnet]

Basically you don't use non binomials with anything for computing

The sole exception is big.LITTLE

But even then they're binomial counts

[vapid smelt]

13mil

[full fossil]

holy shit 102million wii's?

[lilac sage]

ye

[vapid smelt]

yup

[full fossil]

holy shit x 2

[dreamy rose]

theres more Switches out there

[vapid smelt]

111

[wraith sonnet]

The switch I'd believe has more active users than the Wii ever did

[dreamy rose]

lets get the switch to 160

[full fossil]

damn

but truth, wii the christmas console, switch the everyones console

[dreamy rose]

basically people with Internet

[vapid smelt]

the switch uses such old hardware it needs to be replaced

[full fossil]

nintendo switch 2

[wraith sonnet]

Steam deck

[wise tundra]

The Switch has a Maxwell GPU 😂

[dreamy rose]

it is, but its selling so well it should get there

[full fossil]

does switch plays nes and snes?

[wraith sonnet]

Subscription

[vapid smelt]

only 7 years old

[wise tundra]

Ikr

[full fossil]

no way

[full fossil]

ew, they should gave up the whole library for free by now.

[full fossil]

imagine new switch bein lovelace.

lovelace switch

[wise tundra]

That's... that's not how a business works

[full fossil]

more like how monopoly works*

[full fossil]

tempss goes to 0 kelvin

[misty scarab]

people actually call Facebook " meta "?? 💀

[dreamy rose]

i don't

[full fossil]

I don't

[misty scarab]

neither do I

[wise tundra]

Nintendo is not a monopoly, it's a tripoly in console development but in game industry there's way more devs around

[dreamy rose]

licensing

[full fossil]

well 2D indie games still in a go. They should relaunch NES with more higher specs for more graphic games.

[wise tundra]

Also Nintendo could be doing what they usually do and say "fuck you" but they give the NES and SNES games with NSO

So I ain't complaining

[full fossil]

bank-switching did give beautiful games.

I have a the strange urge to break something

[dreamy rose]

no Wii nor Gamecube, Gameboy, GBA, DS is weird.

[dreamy rose]

snap a stick

[full fossil]

To blow something up

[dreamy rose]

blow up a Balloon

[wise tundra]

Wii and GameCube games might come as remakes or rerelease, but I doubt they'll ever have a similar system for em as with NES and SNES

DS is difficult cause of dual screen

[dreamy rose]

maybe in 2 gens time

[full fossil]

I'm gonna run ac through a dc device

[wise tundra]

Super Mario Galaxy and Sunshine came to the switch a long time ago and then came Skyward Sword so I think that's how they're gonna release Wii and GC games if they want to release em at all

[full fossil]

:)

[wise tundra]

Depending on what kinda AC, might be fine

[full fossil]

120 volt ac

[wise tundra]

Oh...

[dreamy rose]

lame

[full fossil]

how stupid would it be to use a transformer from a microwave to up the voltage

[dreamy rose]

just get 240 Volt

[full fossil]

I'm in the us

[dreamy rose]

240 Volt exists in the US

[vapid smelt]

every us home has 240 volt

[full fossil]

"Newegg sells 3300X for 579$"

[full fossil]

posted a pic of something sus in tech chat

[vapid smelt]

or hear me out

[dreamy rose]

the good stuff

[full fossil]

👀

I could make that

[hollow pulsar]

Crossover or straight through?

[dreamy rose]

perfect for baths

[full fossil]

I plugged in the thing that I posted in tech chat

[manic torrent]

dude you need a CRT, that will get it nice and spicy

[full fossil]

oh god a crt transformer

nice spicy voltage

also hi bob

[manic torrent]

sup. I am angrily sifting through tonnes of garbage to find a way to get wireless RGB in my keyboard for less than $450 AUD

[wise tundra]

Australian? 👀

[vapid smelt]

you can get G

[manic torrent]

yes, that is where I live, as do many others.

[wise tundra]

Wait what time is it there?

[manic torrent]

15:05

[wise tundra]

Oki

Like 8h ahead of me

[eager swan]

does anyone know if theres any way to find accurate measurements for the actual components on a motherboard

[manic torrent]

in what way

[eager swan]

as in like

if i have a mobo model and i want to make a cad model of it, is there any way to find a diagram that will let me do that

[manic torrent]

TLDR: no

[eager swan]

💀

[manic torrent]

I mean, surely a 3d scan would get you close enough, what are you doing with it

[fathom pebble]

most of the componeents on a motherboard are standard, like 0603 capacitors, etc

[manic torrent]

if your tolerances are that tight, then you're doing something crazy

[eager swan]

throwing it into fusion 360

[eager swan]

they really arent tbf sooo

i just dont have the motherboard on hand so that might be an issue

i could throw it into python and convert the pixels into dimensions because its an matx board and i know the overall dimensions

[manic torrent]

as a rule, an eyeball is good enough. you could get damn close with like... 3-4 overlapping boxes?

[fathom pebble]

see if you can find the boardview files maybe?

[eager swan]

trueee

[eager swan]

this is a good idea

[manic torrent]

https://grabcad.com/library/tag/microatx

https://grabcad.com/library/motherboard-matx-asrock-h310m-hdvm-2-1

[fathom pebble]

that will give you a layout and a what parts where, most of which use standard package sizes

[eager swan]

coolcool, tolerances are definitely not tight enough to the point where i need to go insane

im just trying to get a semi accurate picture of what a build will look like visually before i buy everything

[fathom pebble]

i will warn that most boards are not out there so

mmm got it.

[eager swan]

gracias

[manic torrent]

I find that this sort of design almost alwways ends in tears - because the real world is a pain in the ass 🙂

[eager swan]

gonna import that generic matx model

[eager swan]

i am just the right amount of sleep deprived to power through methinks

[vapid smelt]

ez

[eager swan]

💀

[manic torrent]

cheap!

[eager swan]

i could buy the components and a caliper for that money LMAO

[full fossil]

only 8700$! budget friendly!

[eager swan]

and maybe 2 tanks of gas

[vapid smelt]

found a more budget option

[eager swan]

no way thats crazy

[full fossil]

oh hell yeah thats cheap

[thin fjord]

ordering one as we speak

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diuOMDRtIMI

[eager swan]

i could probably just do some opencv magic in python and figure out the dimensions with a reference image but thats too much work

[full fossil]

linux

[austere flame]

Hey guys i got a question

On iphone

If i turn off cellular data can i still call and receive calls?

[lilac sage]

yes

cellular data is just 4G, 3G, LTE, 5G etc.

[austere flame]

Oh ok

[lilac sage]

it doesnt turn off cell service

[austere flame]

If i have no service I can't make any calls right?

[lilac sage]

well there supposedly exists something called wifi calling

never used it tho

[austere flame]

Oh ok

Thanks

[sonic spruce]

Is this a good mouse?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-basilisk-v3-pro-wireless-optical-gaming-mouse-with-chroma-rgb-lighting-black/6514426.p?skuId=6514426

Asking for a friend they rich

They also got this

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6476680.p?skuId=6476680

[wise tundra]

In fact, the SMPization of the 750 in the Espresso is not perfect. There appears to be a bug that affects load-exclusive and store-exclusive instructions (an explicit cache flush is required), which means that using SMP Linux with them will require patching the kernel and libpthread to work around it (and possibly other software that directly uses these instructions to e.g. implement atomics). They would’ve never shipped such a blatant bug on a general-purpose CPU, but I guess they called it good enough for a game console since they can just work around it in the SDK (which they do: the Cafe OS locking primitives have the workaround).

• marcan, 2014, https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2014/console-hacking-2013-omake/

[misty scarab]

does anyone here live in a country where the public transport actually works

[vapid smelt]

razer sucks

[wispy marsh]

Public transport has worked here for the last 30 years

Linus's wife can attest to that

But she hasn't seem to have been back home for a good while

[misty scarab]

how are the trains

[wispy marsh]

Fantastic. Breaks down only once or twice a year at the most on average*.

[misty scarab]

Small town to Capital, how much would it cost

[wispy marsh]

The entire country/nation is the capital. So all of our public transport is in-capital.

It takes from 2 to 2.5h to travel from one end of the nation to the other end

There is a new metro that will shorten that to 1h, and is slated to complete a dozen years from now

[misty scarab]

what country lol

[wispy marsh]

Asia

[misty scarab]

That is a continent

[wispy marsh]

Singapore

[misty scarab]

Ooo

Singapore airport is hella nice

[wispy marsh]

Which one?

[misty scarab]

WSSS

Changi Airport

[wispy marsh]

Which Changi Airport?

[misty scarab]

Singapore Changi Airport

[wispy marsh]

There are like four terminals and a tourist mall there

[misty scarab]

The whole thing is nice

[wispy marsh]

You're referring to all of it?

Aye, it is nice

[misty scarab]

If I want to take a train from my small town to my nations capital, its about a 200 mile trip, and a coach seat (which is very nice despite its name), costs about 50 bucks

[wispy marsh]

It's less than 100km from one end to another

[misty scarab]

Since its a train that makes stops at a lot of small towns, and only tops out at around 110 km/h, it takes from 07:00 to 13:00 to take the train

[wispy marsh]

Wow, that ain't bad

[misty scarab]

I can take a flight thats 8000 km and still be in the same country

Additionally, we own an island in the pacific, which is about 3 hours by plane from The Philippines

[lilac sage]

Hainan?

or okinawa?

[misty scarab]

Nop

[wispy marsh]

Cebu

[misty scarab]

United runs one I think

Cebu might

if I count this Pacific Island as the country (its just a territory with a lot of autonomy), then I can travel 12,796 km and still be in the same country

[patent iris]

Sounds like russia

[misty scarab]

Nop

Philippine Airlines runs a flight from Antonio B. Won Pat International Airport to Ninoy Aquino International Airport

(i think this gives it away)

[graceful burrow]

@tender owl hate to bug, did you ever get that tesla m40 workin?

[crystal mirage]

ah yes I want a completely useless piece of technology for 23k

seems like a good idea

[lilac sage]

its a relic

i wonder if you can even get a phone plan anymore with that

[runic lagoon]

I still have mine 🤣

the screne feels so tiny, and every thing feels slow in comparison. Tech has come along way.

[wispy marsh]

IIRC it's slow because it wasn't using an Apple soc

They only switched over to A4 in the iPhone 4 and that was where things began to pick up

[ashen wedge]

I have a question about a dedicated 7 days to die server would anyone be able to help

[wispy marsh]

Now even Snapdragon 8 gen 1 is only trading blows with 2yo iPhones

[runic lagoon]

with VR, it might be all about those tiny apple watch CPUs

[fluid ridge]

"now my 2023 car is almost as fast as a 2019 car"

not a good flex

[runic lagoon]

a more accurate metric might he fuel efficency

[wispy marsh]

Sounds like an electric car marketing story

[runic lagoon]

my first car, would probable be like 200 dolalrs by todays prices

[full fossil]

I'm trying on my dad's glasses and it feels way better than having none at all

I think I have bad eyesight

[runic lagoon]

time to see an eye doctor

[full fossil]

the nearest opening that they have is in january

so i guess im waiting

[fluid ridge]

google and microsoft have relatively low bug bounties for very critical security flaws

remote code execution google will pay 31k while microsoft will pay up to 250k but iirc apple goes up to 1 million usd

[median pivot]

I’m looking online there is 2
ASUS Radeon R7 260 for $35. Is this decent?

[vapid smelt]

i would spend $10 more

[median pivot]

Gotcha. I’m just learning what GPUs are worth it lol.

1660super worth $120??

[ionic pebble]

Trying to find the best usb wifi adapter. I am currently staying in a trailer for a haunted house for security (as funny as it may sound) the trailer is acting as a Faraday cage which is dropping my connection to 10mbs. Was hoping to buy a usb wifi adapter to stick onto the roof of the trailer to better my connection

Also would have to run a 20ft or so usb extension cable

[graceful jackal]

Yes

They usually go around like 150 iirc

[mellow crystal]

Heyo

[burnt robin]

Anyone knows his this warranty from AllStates working if lets say you moved/travel/live abroad, outside US? https://www.ebay.com/itm/270826537039

Lets say you travel outside US, they will cover the shipping from you and back to you abroad?

[full fossil]

Is there ways I can steal samples of userbenchmark/passmark/notebookcheck.com? I wanted to make price to performance graphics. Also like to know publically available data

[burnt robin]

https://prnt.sc/Lg3-4oRRTdRp

Ok seems be fair

[vapid smelt]

[graceful burrow]

[vapid smelt]

we did it

[graceful burrow]

If I wanted to be in #1027757333117415424 I'd be there
It is it's own thing kinda for a reason kek

[vapid smelt]

gpus are not big enough imo

[graceful burrow]

I agree

[marsh mortar]

@vapid smeltcan u unblock me ?

[graceful burrow]

Why did he block you

[marsh mortar]

dont know i did nothing, probably because i mentioned him

[graceful burrow]

He's not gonna get that tag kek

[marsh mortar]

what does that mean

[graceful burrow]

You tagged him 5 messages ago
If he has you blocked, the tag won't give him a notification

[marsh mortar]

yes

[marsh mortar]

i hope he see my message

[marsh mortar]

are all u guys from us ?

[edgy jay]

When you say how much your PC costs, do you include taxes or not?

Like “I have a $1500 system”. Is that pre-tax or post-tax?

[fossil frost]

the amount of money you handed over to buy the system.... is how much it cost...

i dont get the american "this is the price... but you also pay tax on top". almost everywhere else on the planet... the price is the price, and if there is tax, its already part of the price

[full fossil]

Hey

[woeful minnow]

Afaik the main reason is that every state has a different tax so websites would have to change based on the state you live in, and the site may not always be able to accurately tell which state you are in

But that could easily be fixed by just setting the rate nationally

[fossil frost]

yep, which is what everywhere else does, even other countries that were formed from a loosely bound set of states

[dreamy rose]

how else is America gonna use Math if they don't need to use it to buy their Takis and Baja Blast?

[white fractal]

Do you include shipping in a computer’s price that you paid? What about insurance (if you paid for either)?

[dreamy rose]

PC Insurance?

[fossil frost]

shipping and insurance are products that you bought that are not the computer, so their price didnt factor into the price of the computer its self

[white fractal]

Think Best Buy or some other place where you are offered an upsell like additional warranty coverage

[dreamy rose]

well that's not really insurance.

[white fractal]

Semantics but fine, I didn’t use the typical word for it

[dreamy rose]

Warranty covers expected problems but Insurance covers unexpected Accidents.

Any interesting Windows XP ISOs? i'm bored and wanna look at old shit in a VM

[robust fjord]

Yes

Actually 130-145

*moving to #tech-chat-1 *

[turbid falcon]

nope, your 'friend' might be rich but clearly has no taste

[dreamy rose]

the rich are Evil and Always have bad taste. it comes with the money

[slim yacht]

thats like saying i have a gun and ill shoot anyone like a crazy dude

[turbid falcon]

you met 'brad' from the office then

[full fossil]

Portugal 🇵🇹

[tender owl]

I just haven't had time to work on it, I can't even remember what I was trying to do. Wasn't it the thing with soldering on display connectors?

[manic torrent]

half of people are below average

[verbal falcon]

is there like a good pros and cons list somewhere for nvidia, amd, intel gpus

[dreamy rose]

don't need a list, Nvidia Fastest, AMD Cheaper but cant do Video editing and Intel is good as a Coprocessor for Video editing on AMD, pretty cheap too

pff, no

we arent talking CPU my guy,

well not today

[verbal falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

damn you imbed

[fathom pebble]

rip embed

[manic torrent]

you are certainly cracked

[fathom pebble]

but that is a correct response lol

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-epic-embed-fail-gif-26146453

[dreamy rose]

no. both fail at Integrated Graphics.

AMD does Integrated Grahpics well

[manic torrent]

they don't, they do exactly what they are meant to do

[dreamy rose]

many people will in future, especially since RDNA has Come to them and provide a good gaming experience for cheap.

you havent even seen RDNA 3 yet

[near nebula]

we got about 2 and a half weeks before we get info regarding that

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 3 is gonna be good

[near nebula]

I'm happy with RDNA1, but, it's upgradable and hopefully when the new gen GPUs are announced, RDNA2 should be more affordable

[fathom pebble]

rdna2 is already superrrrr cheap

[dreamy rose]

good luck saving for your 1600 dollar GPU Then

[near nebula]

still saying around £400 here brand new

(6600/XT, might be 6650/XT or 6700/XT)

[fathom pebble]

ah thats unfortuante then. yeah prices will hopefully go down more then

[near nebula]

plus a stagnating UK£ isn't helping things either so yeah kinda sucks

it's ~$0.9 to £1 right now so yeah it's like penny pinching at this point

[dreamy rose]

and? you're just one whos better off. if that's even true. normal people don't buy massive space heater Graphics cards for 1600 dollars.

[fathom pebble]

yeah its gettin bad sadly. hope you guys are doin alright across the pond

[near nebula]

I'll manage one way or other

[manic torrent]

this. exactly this.

[near nebula]

or have the bottleneck to survive £250/month (or US equivalent)

without heating.

[dreamy rose]

yeah thats right, not everyone can be one of Nvidia's Whales.

[near nebula]

thought about that idea where even single-working people are struggling to make ends meet, or those less-fortunate who can't?

[dreamy rose]

Mind blown, the poor exist

[near nebula]

shocking thought, eh?

[manic torrent]

I'm not even close to struggling to make ends meet, and a 4090 seems damn excessive

[near nebula]

I know, just acting all high-and-mighty when I'm in that situ... really angers me. I got a roof over my head and that, but I'm not sugar-coating it either...

[dreamy rose]

just because well, it is. you can tell if someone's born into Riches or trying to sound like Mr Big when they say its not.

[fathom pebble]

3050 is one of the worst value cards on the market atm

[dreamy rose]

Hardly representative of what AMDs real sbility is

[fathom pebble]

rx 6600 is very cheap, 200 usd if you get luckly. got mine for 230

[dreamy rose]

isn't the Arc less and performs more?

[fathom pebble]

also no, arc pretty bad at more money

[dreamy rose]

so you're saying intel is shit? i've won your little pissing contest then havent i?

[fathom pebble]

no one has to buy it

[near nebula]

the thing Intel has an advantage over right now is DX12 support at higher resolutions (on A750/770) and that encoding people will be eventually moving onto (what was it A1?)

[dreamy rose]

i dont care, i got you to say intel is Crap.

thats a W for me,

[near nebula]

about £260 for a RX 6600, which is on par with a 3060 in most things, and has better relative price-to-performance. and, well... we haven't seen the 4070 6GB yet 🤣

[dreamy rose]

Still said an Intel Product was crap, which you seem to be super Defensive of Intel despite them putting basic shit like Overclocking behind dumb paywalls

[night heron]

intel isn’t crap

bionic is an amd drone all he does is praise amd all day every day in here

[worthy beacon]

why is my amd radeon gpu stuttering ?

[dreamy rose]

because AMD has done good shit.

[fathom pebble]

google stadia was good for a very certain subset of people

[night heron]

this could be any number of things

[dreamy rose]

didn't Stadia have the best Latency or smth?

[night heron]

stadia was pretty cool imo but i never planned on using cloud gaming

[fathom pebble]

not really, it was just useful to some people

[night heron]

eh if it didn’t have issues with old games it’d be a good product especially for a first attempt

[fossil dirge]

Google Stadia is a good service

Too bad Google is killing it

[near nebula]

Geforce Now is, but the new pricing tiers are... kinda bad in a way

[fossil dirge]

Well at least there's Xbox Game Pass via XCloud

[fathom pebble]

GeForce now is even worse tbh

[dreamy rose]

Aside from trying the GeForce NOW Beta in Australia there's nothing it did for me.

[night heron]

we’re so close to the 13th gen launch i can smell it

[dreamy rose]

*AMD iGPU

[fathom pebble]

do we get reviews soon

[near nebula]

the free tier's pretty terrible, and the other ones go up to, I think $20/month for the RTX 30/4090?

[fathom pebble]

people been talking a lot of shit and i havent seen reviews yet

[night heron]

it launches on the 20th iirc so we’ll see something within the next 3 days

[near nebula]

more than likely Mike, yeah. I'll be interested to see how it bridges the gap with the 7k, and how if at all it eclipses the 5k series

[dreamy rose]

they're Objectively the best Integrated Graphics.

*there

[fathom pebble]

intel and amd are comparable

[worthy beacon]

when i run a stress test my whole pc is lagging. Should it happen?

[fathom pebble]

each has their own advantages

[near nebula]

as well as disadvantages

[fathom pebble]

yes that is the point of a stress test

[dreamy rose]

AMD is the best option for Laptops

[fathom pebble]

amd R9 obliterates the current i9, and will probably beat the next one so idk where youre on about

[dreamy rose]

AMD Advantage is better because you know your system is actually gonna be good

[worthy beacon]

should i enable SAM?

[near nebula]

well I think the only one where AMD kinda struggles with is with a few video game engines (Anvil... looking at that, Ubisoft..!)

[dreamy rose]

no. because AMD Advantage Makes laptops better

BRO, YOU CANT HANDLE A SIMPLE FACT. my god man.

[night heron]

intel is going to bless everyone with the 13600k in 3 days

[dreamy rose]

Laptops are PCs? i thought that was obvious

[night heron]

all hail the value king

[near nebula]

unless they're Macs, yeah. (not a dig at apple, just different ecosystem)

[night heron]

14c20t for $330 with equivalent gaming performance to the ryzen 7600x

the 7600x and 7700x will be effectively obsolete in 3 days

[dreamy rose]

Come back when your Integrated Graphics isn't the Dictionary Definition of shit. then we'll talk

[fathom pebble]

i would argue they were obsolote against the 5800x3d

but then again, the every cpu launched this year will also be obsolete vs the 5800x3d so who knows

[night heron]

in the end, 12th gen, ryzen 7000, and the 5800x3d are all more or less equivalent in gaming

[near nebula]

the Ryzen G series is sort of lacking though even if it is a lot better more recently in laptops (and better when paired with its GPU)

[dull tapir]

would anyone know if you can use spotify like youtube same account on separate devices at teh same time without syncing because i am not able to use spotify on my phone if i am using it on pc

[night heron]

so it’ll be interesting to see the 7800x3d take the lead again

he says your integrated graphics as if he works for amd

[fathom pebble]

yeah they left room for the 7800x3d which is nice, no naming confusion

i expect it to obliterate everything, just like its predeccessor

[near nebula]

you know I'm kinda interested if we'll see x3D on 5700 and 7700 as well?

[dreamy rose]

i'm Sorry you have Bad takes man.

[near nebula]

maybe not the former, but the latter? maybe??

[night heron]

in the past 6 years i’ve used:
fx 6300, 750ti
r5 1600, 1050ti
i9 10900f, gtx 1070
i9 10900f, 6900xt

i could not care less what brand i use for cpu or gpu

[dreamy rose]

don't think intel is gonna have 3D Cache for a while

[night heron]

i pick based on value

[fathom pebble]

will never happen! intel does not have the technology

[dreamy rose]

it will. just gonna take a while

[fathom pebble]

6900xt

[near nebula]

mine was Phenom III X4 965 Black + 670 > FX 8320 > 960 > 2600 > 1660s > 5700XT > 5600X (got lucky with the CPU supply it should have been 5600G)

[fathom pebble]

i'll believe it when i see it

[dull tapir]

idk but i am not able to find in settings of spotify to turn off sync

[fathom pebble]

no no they do not

[dreamy rose]

what the fuck are you talking About? you havent even proved if Intel is any better in ANY of these Situations

[dreamy rose]

6900XT is a nice card

[near nebula]

I mean it took a while for Intel to split performance and efficiency and for the most part that worked well in mid-high end 12th Gen. might work well in the 13th as well, but actual numbers matter when it releases and benchmarks are out

[manic torrent]

everything sucks

[near nebula]

water sucks... wait we're talking about Intel?

[dreamy rose]

yeah, don't try to fucking talk to this guy. hes got No idea what he's talking about and Cant back up his claims.

[near nebula]

...cruising for a rule violation, huh...

[dreamy rose]

i just want people to back up their claims.

[near nebula]

mhmm, I know I'm not exactly smart all the time but I read and clarify/rectify it if it goes out of hand. that however...

[graceful jackal]

tf since when bro you are actually tripping

if you say so lets make an example
5600U vs i51135G7

[near nebula]

heck I had to back out of a PC hardware convo when I stepped in at a wrong time instead of making things worse

[dreamy rose]

where is your Evidence that AMD Advantage makes a laptop bad and where's your evidence that Intel has better Integrated Graphics?

[near nebula]

I'm pretty sure Intel Iris Xe are worse than AMD's inbuilt Radeon graphics

[dreamy rose]

yeah, thats pretty obvious,

[near nebula]

and I've had HD 4400, GMA 945...

and an A8 processor

...

[manic torrent]

hahaha, I assure you he doesn't care about his reputation, but it's funny nonetheless

[graceful jackal]

5600U:
more cores
less heat
more efficient
actually cheaper
very good performance
an actually good IGPU

1135G7
a little bit better in terms of single thread performance
4 FUCKING CORES GODDAMMIT
heats up faster
chugs more power causes the battery to die faster
more expensive
iris XE aint that good compared to radeon

hell even a lucienne part will beat the i7 11th gen U series chip

[dreamy rose]

What Reputation of yours am i trying to destory? you just come here with Shitty takes and zero Evidence and Act like i'm the asshole

[fathom pebble]

500 usd at most?

[near nebula]

ehh, sounds like $5-600?

120GB is SSD SATA or NVMe?

[graceful jackal]

sure intel and amd in the desktop space are trading blows, but laptop space? AMD takes the dub for the longest time

[dreamy rose]

when did you ever prove Evidence to back your claims?

[graceful jackal]

you are

[near nebula]

maybe $500-525. at a push, 550.

[dreamy rose]

i'm not fighting i want your proof.

[graceful jackal]

you just came here and said AMD is shit like wtf

typical intel fanboy

[dreamy rose]

hes an Intel Shill that's why

[graceful jackal]

if you wanna say something have proof for it

back up your claims

dont you come say something is shit then argue when people ask for your proof

[dreamy rose]

this is the man that Essentially said poor people don't exist

[night heron]

they are shit value on the cpu front with ryzen 7000 and it’s not an opinion

their sales are very low and it shows

[near nebula]

that's asking for a mod to yeet him.

[graceful jackal]

i mean they are lmao

[night heron]

they’re not shit products they just need a price drop

they can’t compete with the upcoming 13600k

[graceful jackal]

they really do in order to be worth it

[tribal topaz]

people have access to 5G how is the performance i.e ping speed

[fathom pebble]

amd doesnt have to care about competing with intel on desktop

[night heron]

yes they do

[graceful jackal]

not as much as the laptop space

[night heron]

why would they make desktop cpus if they weren’t going to try to compete

[dreamy rose]

i asked a dozen times and all i got was "Karen"

[night heron]

if they don’t compete they have no sales

[fathom pebble]

no, they can just sell their chiplets in server

they will sell every single zen4 core made, even if desktop barely sells anything

[night heron]

but yes the majority of their revenue is from epyc

[dreamy rose]

you know exactly what you said

[near nebula]

and Threadripper for that count as well

[graceful jackal]

how tf the answer is clear bro. each of them have their uses, you want multicore perf you go amd, you want gaming perf you go intel, you have different workloads that means different cpus

[night heron]

but when amd is having a shitty year and the response is “they don’t have to care if they’re doing shitty” it comes off as amd fanboyish imo

[fathom pebble]

not meant to be fanboyish, its an explanation to why they released bad value products

[graceful jackal]

how is it a blowout win for intel

[night heron]

you’ll see when 13th gen benchmarks come out

[fathom pebble]

i wouldnt touch 7600x, 7700x with a 10 foot pole

[night heron]

the value is leaps and bounds ahead of amd

[graceful jackal]

5950X still beat the fuck out of 12900KS in multicore and thats not a joke

[graceful jackal]

to be honest they are really having a shitty year lmao

[dreamy rose]

@full fossil

[night heron]

radeon 7000 is looking promising though

[graceful jackal]

like actually kinda shitty

[night heron]

if 50% performance per watt is true

and the 7800x3d will be nice

[graceful jackal]

hmm how do you know when the fucking embargo for 13900K hasnt even been lifted

[night heron]

but mainline ryzen 7000 sucks

[fathom pebble]

7950x is very very good, its just midrange is bad

[graceful jackal]

unless they drop their price no one gonna buy AMD this year

[night heron]

it’s a good processor yes but it costs too much

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 3 is gonna be lit on Integrated Graphics

[fathom pebble]

i mean its cheaper than the 5950x

[night heron]

yeah but still more expensive than the 13900k

while requiring more expensive ram and more expensive motherboards

[steep fox]

When are the 7000 GPUs launching?

[graceful jackal]

yea no i dont trust no one except LTT, jayztwocentz, hardware unboxed, and gamer nexus

[night heron]

this man is asking the real questions

[hollow pulsar]

This happens with every tech move forward.

[near nebula]

Intel going cross-gen at least for this year was a very wise call, and for AMD to mess that up with AM5 isn't even remotely funny tbh

[graceful jackal]

ima wait for actual official testing

[dreamy rose]

the models arent Announced yet

[graceful jackal]

ima wait for nonbiased testing

[steep fox]

Hardware unboxed are very very sketchy in my opinion

[night heron]

my crystal ball is tingling

[near nebula]

we may get leaks prior to the 3rd but only that keynote will show anything interesting

[steep fox]

then you'd appreciate my channel lol

[night heron]

i5 13600k + radeon 7900xt is gonna be the play for high end builds

[graceful jackal]

i mean the most waited channel for me is LTT

[graceful jackal]

lol promotion gap i see you

[night heron]

i mean if you want to spend less money you can grab a 6900xt

but you don’t need a 13600k for a 6900xt

[dreamy rose]

i smell Copium

[fathom pebble]

im sure it will magically price drop 50 dollars when 13900k comes out and it will be fine

[night heron]

50 isn’t enough

[graceful jackal]

i smell copium honestly

[near nebula]

I mean, we could get a segue to our sponsors if we're being dumb

[dreamy rose]

Favorite Benchmark?

[graceful jackal]

that tests could be biased, could be altered with, could be tempered with who knows

[night heron]

the 7950x needs to be like $500 at max

not $750

[steep fox]

I currently only possess the 6700XT and the 3060Ti with the same hardware components in each PC

[near nebula]

yeah that's not going to happen for about a year or two unless they have a flash sale during black friday or cyber monday

[fathom pebble]

its 600 rn? like its cheap

[night heron]

i remember buying my r5 1600 for $120 brand new when it was the latest ryzen generation

then when i saw the $300-330 5600x release i started laughing

[steep fox]

my favourite game to benchmark has to be Rogue Company

[near nebula]

7950X here is showing £739 so yeah, on top of all the other parts it'd be about £1500 without blinking

[night heron]

eh

we have no information on radeon 7000 just yet

other than amd claiming 50% performance per watt improvement

[fathom pebble]

yeah i got my 3700x for like 260 which was great

[graceful jackal]

lmao nvidia shit so expensive its not even funny

[near nebula]

I got super lucky getting a 5600X for £150 here, which was a jaw-dropper

[night heron]

W

[near nebula]

was only aiming for 5600G but the supply issues meant I got the better one

[slim yacht]

sounds about right

[dreamy rose]

i like GTA 4 Kek. the 3080 will run it with lows over 60. Finally.

[night heron]

if they were smart they’d try to release it before christmas

[dreamy rose]

After 14-15 years it finally runs well

[near nebula]

should be a review somewhere on where I shopped it

[night heron]

gta 4 out here really being harder to run than gta 5

[steep fox]

When GTA 6 launches I'm gonna be ontop of it for benchmarking without a doubt

[fathom pebble]

announcing nov 3 means it probably launches before end of november

[graceful jackal]

ok sure bud but have you checked the price on 4060?

[night heron]

i scored a $450 32” samsung odyssey g7 monitor yesterday

so i’m returning my 43.4” 4k 144hz monitor

just too big

[fathom pebble]

43 inch monitor holy shit

[near nebula]

eh? we don't even know if the 4060 will happen yet, they haven't announced it (oh wait that guy...)

[graceful jackal]

starts at 900USD

[dreamy rose]

wooow, i'm a Stan now? to be Frank with you, i'd need to change my name

[graceful jackal]

its not fixed price it starts there

[night heron]

yeah it’s actually a va panel meant for use in tvs but given monitor firmware and features

[graceful jackal]

its not about my money its about the greed nvidia has

[near nebula]

not too shabby there Mike

[fathom pebble]

ah very nice

[graceful jackal]

4060 for 900USD are you insane

[near nebula]

can't fault the engineering but good lord the prices and huge power draw

[sonic barn]

Looks like TTF and USA nat gas are diving fast

[dreamy rose]

HERE WE GO!

[fathom pebble]

i am still running 3 1080p panels

[sonic barn]

Epic

[graceful jackal]

huge ass power draw, prices are insane

[hollow pulsar]

Let's back off the personal attacks and namecalling.

[graceful jackal]

sure nvidia fanboy

[night heron]

the power draw on the 4090 isn’t an issue at all imo

[graceful jackal]

come back and talk to me when you have the 4090

[night heron]

most of the cards run at like 63c under load

and have respectable junction temp deltas

[near nebula]

...it's pointless Corewynn, I said something and called me a Howard, so...

[hollow pulsar]

Let's all back off.

[night heron]

plus the 4090 will run within 5% of its max potential at 70% power limit if you wanna save some juice

[fathom pebble]

yeah as long as you can evacuate 350-450W from your room its fine

[graceful jackal]

explain then why LTT said 4060 is 900 USD

[sonic barn]

You can't Undervolt it properly though as it runs based on a set power limit

[graceful jackal]

scalpers?

[dreamy rose]

its not as bad as it could have been. that's for sure. but the prices are as nasty as a fresh Turd laid on the Sidewalk.

[night heron]

the price is actually less than the 3090 was at launch

adjusted for inflation the 4090 should’ve been like $1700 or $1800

[graceful jackal]

it hasnt launched yet? tf

[night heron]

but yeah $1600 for a gpu is insane in general

[sonic barn]

3090 was delayed twice though

[night heron]

i got a $600 6900xt like two months ago and i’m happy

[dreamy rose]

they unlaunched the 4080 12GB genius.

[night heron]

the 4080 12gb will still release at a later date just with a different name

[fathom pebble]

[night heron]

likely as a 4070 with a price drop

[graceful jackal]

it was announced by nvida bro

[sonic barn]

4070 super

[night heron]

or that

[dreamy rose]

though its a 4060Ti still

[tender glade]

Why you guys gotta bm each other when your talking about such undisputed stuff lmfao

[graceful jackal]

honestly idk man

[tender glade]

Don't name call, it's bad

[night heron]

frl stop calling eachother stupid over computer hardware

[graceful jackal]

i dont even know at this point

[night heron]

we’re talking about sand that thinks when you give it power let’s keep in mind

[hollow pulsar]

When was the 4060 announced? https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4060-release-date-price-spec-benchmarks

[graceful jackal]

its an oversimplification of a situation but i understand what you mean

[sonic barn]

Lost to Intel?

[tender glade]

it's fine to curse, just don't name call

[sonic barn]

Are you sure

[graceful jackal]

you really wanna go back to that again huh

[night heron]

weren’t the rx 6800/6800xt the best value cards at msrp but they were never available at msrp?

i’m curious how the 7800/7800xt will do

[dreamy rose]

this man. he's got bad takes And just name calls without proving his statements. might wanna watch him

[fathom pebble]

i would assume similarly

[graceful jackal]

i thought we made that clear

[fathom pebble]

amd has to price stuff cheaper

[graceful jackal]

AMD didnt lost to intel

they are literally trading blows

[night heron]

not yet but they will in 3 days

[sonic barn]

Intel literally has lost 150 billion in market valuation, in debt big time. Pat their CEO is literally garbage at running the company

[graceful jackal]

yet is the keyword tho lmao

[dreamy rose]

Before Who deleted what?

[sonic barn]

All when he was CEO, in the span of a year the company became garbage

[graceful jackal]

honestly i love intel and amd but i gotta admit intel has been shit in the laptop space and killing it in the desktop space. AMD will likely lose to intel this gen but not when 5000 series vs 11th gen bro

[sonic barn]

Now there's way too much debt and not enough cash flow

[near nebula]

...Momo, we've had this for a good half-hour

[tender glade]

Calm down calm down @full fossil

[dreamy rose]

i haven't deleted anything.

[night heron]

the two best processors won’t be releasing until early 2023 sadly (the i5 13400f and the ryzen7 7800x3d)

[sonic barn]

I've been talking trash about Intel since it was at 40$

Where is it now

[graceful jackal]

i would love to see a 7950X3D

i cant afford it but i would like to see it

[sonic barn]

Arc will fail the launch with poor drivers

[graceful jackal]

the irony

[night heron]

i don’t think they’ll make one because the cache only really benefits you in games and games play just fine on 6 cores, let alone 8

but if they did make one that’d be cool

[sonic barn]

@full fossil didn't you say yesterday you were buying a 4090?

Then posted a setup from PCPartPicker

[dreamy rose]

Sure

[sonic barn]

You're literally a hypocrite

[near nebula]

er... so the energy suddenly shifted then?

[night heron]

i have a feeling we’re going to see a core count increase with ryzen 9000 though

[fathom pebble]

agreed. they dont want the 7950x3d to eat into their sales of the 8950x when zen5 comes out

[night heron]

the only use case i would see myself picking a 7950x is for a small form factor build because it performs very well at 65w

[sonic barn]

Because you don't know what you're talking about

[fathom pebble]

i would consider 7950x if i continued doing my data work, but id just go to 5950x

doesnt make sense for new platform

[night heron]

the 7800x3d will be a good reason to buy into the expensive am5 platform though because you could theoretically drop a 11800x3d into your board in a handful of years

if they continue making 3d cpus

[dreamy rose]

Make outragous Claim
Name call
make stupid Accusation of trying to destroy Reputation
Refuse to Elaborate
Cry to Chat mod about being corrected
Discussion 1000

[sonic barn]

Nvidia and AMD are good, Intel has fell off big time

[near nebula]

Repeat ad-nauseum, right?

[graceful jackal]

not providing proof for those claims

[fathom pebble]

that is the hope yeah. i am expecting at least 3 generations, hoping for 4

[dreamy rose]

same thing as Refuse to Elaborate

[full fossil]

lmao I did a calculation , at the storage density of a 1tb sd card, a 3.5tb HDD would store 14 PETAbytes

[night heron]

yeah nand flash storage is insanely dense

hard drives are obsolete in all ways except price

[dreamy rose]

Cool, See ya, don't let intel's Overcloking tax hit you on the way out

[near nebula]

Uses a GameBreaker card Well when you and your family can't afford to live and have to go house hunting on low wages... then we'll talk.

[dreamy rose]

you're forgetting about Capacity too

[night heron]

no i’m not

[graceful jackal]

ok bye. btw becareful on that intel chip temperature that is running around out on the streets

[night heron]

it’s easier to get higher density with ssds if price is no object

[dreamy rose]

show me a 20TB SSD

[night heron]

there’s 100tb sata form factor ssds, hard drives top at 22tb

you should do some research

[near nebula]

Servers have them even if it's in multiple @dreamy rose

[dreamy rose]

link me a 20 TB SSD right now

[night heron]

the only factor hard drives are not obsolete because of is their lower price

[full fossil]

ik about those , but SD cards are in their own league in terms of density

[graceful jackal]

oh they died already i buried them 2 years ago

[near nebula]

I can actually show proof of one. NOT cheap though

[dreamy rose]

i'm not the one leaving

[hollow pulsar]

Let's not provoke others to anger.

[dreamy rose]

i genuinely wanna see

[night heron]

bionic look up the 100tb exadrive if youre actually curious

[graceful jackal]

great wording choice

[night heron]

ssds are far more dense than hard drives

[near nebula]

Yeah it was a fake one, let me double check

[full fossil]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J2BJX8V?
15 is the best I could find

[dreamy rose]

i know about that one. yeah that is one Disingenuous Dense MF SSD.

[near nebula]

hmm, fair backing down of that convo. There's HDDs but the closest is ...22tb?

[night heron]

i’m excited for coaxial wiring and hard drives to finally go away forever

[dreamy rose]

i've suffered on Slow Spinning Rust for so long. me too

[near nebula]

hm, okay so we're not quite there yet but apparently Pavilion has 15.36TB NVMe?

[night heron]

we’re walking into a new era of storage and network speed

[near nebula]

"Micron 9300" is the thing to look into

[night heron]

hopefully this leads to higher resolution content as well

[dreamy rose]

Hope that soon PCIE Gen 5 SSDs have a real use case

[night heron]

they do, just not for your average consumer

[near nebula]

yeah it'll make the PS5's load speeds look pretty... uh... bad in comparison

[hollow pulsar]

Rarely is technology successful without a use-case.

[hollow zealot]

I just hope we continue to watch storage get cheaper

[dreamy rose]

Waiting to put the PS5's SSDs and shit to shame

[night heron]

real

storage as a whole is so much cheaper than it was in 2017

both hard drives and ssds

[dreamy rose]

best part for the Consumer

[hollow zealot]

Hard drives are dirt cheap

[near nebula]

same with all PC parts, unless... well GPUs

[night heron]

8tb used hgst hard drives for $90 on ebay, $100 2tb tlc ssds with slc cache brand new

[hollow zealot]

I bought a 5TB hdd the other week for $80

[night heron]

speaking of which i may buy one of the ssds for myself

[dreamy rose]

now you can get a 256GB SSD with SLC Caching for 35AUD

[near nebula]

kinda waiting to get my hands on a dual-bus NVMe myself (1 or 2TB)

or 2x1tb so I can get one into the laptop

[hollow zealot]

Seagate has a 16tb HDD for $200

That's pretty damn crazy imo

[night heron]

i need to expand my nas

[near nebula]

lifespan on those are... not great but should work well nonetheless

[hollow zealot]

This is what raid is for

[near nebula]

then again someone had the HDD on 24/7 for 5 years so, wasn't exactly a smart move

(you know those PVR TVs)

[dreamy rose]

Seagate though

[night heron]

i mean my hard drives don’t get days off

in my nas

they only turn off if i have to upgrade linux packages

[hollow zealot]

Inb4 EVGA moves into ssd space

[near nebula]

I'd be on board with that, assuming they master the fundamentals

[dreamy rose]

ngl i'm thinking i get an 80 dollar 2TB external Hard drive and rip the drive out. maybe not because my GPU is dying and Artifacting now.

[hollow zealot]

That would be more expensive than just buying a normal drive

[dreamy rose]

no

[near nebula]

just have a 4+TB eHDD handy. I got one about a year ago which was a WD 6TB for just over £110 during black friday

[dreamy rose]

2TB internal drives are more here

[hollow zealot]

That doesn't sound right whatsoever

But idk about your location

[near nebula]

UK prices sighs

[dreamy rose]

its an 80 dollar external drive vs a 124 dollar internal one.

[dreamy rose]

Australia

[near nebula]

it's badly inflated and we're closing towards the dollar in exchange rates

[night heron]

the aud is worth so little

how much longer before it’s literally half that of the usd

[hollow zealot]

https://a.co/d/fINO6lQ

[dreamy rose]

Very true

[near nebula]

what kinda makes matters worse here is that none of the big electric outlets even hold PC components anymore, and the one close by to me turned into a business-only company

[dreamy rose]

3.5 inch. not 2

[hollow zealot]

2?

What do you need a 2" for

[dreamy rose]

2.5 inch drive.

[near nebula]

I mean they got prebuilts, monitors and laptops, but none of the component parts like they used to

AKA laptop/slim/SSD SATA

3.5 is the big desktop/NAS ones

[hollow zealot]

Well that's why they're so expensive

2.5" are technically replacement parts

[near nebula]

I'm pretty sure there were some companies trying hybrid 3.5" at one point but it didn't work out then M.2 took the world by storm

[dreamy rose]

for anything under 8TB, 3.5 inch HDDs are a waste of space

[warm tapir]

i am going to sneeze

[near nebula]

nowadays, you're right on that, but in a bind 6(TB) wasn't bad on black friday

[warm tapir]

bless me

[hollow zealot]

Why not just buy an SSD at that point

[full fossil]

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/nimbus-data-squeezes-100tb-into-a-35-inch-ssd/

100tb ssd uwu

[near nebula]

varies. Price point is one thing, even if the performance is immesurable

although £62-85 for SSD SATA or NVMe is actually not bad for 1tb nowadays

[dreamy rose]

1TB RAM gaming PC When?

[near nebula]

.....maybe 5 years when it trickles down to the public?

DDR5 obviously

[dreamy rose]

DDR5 can get us to 1TB max

[near nebula]

-I meant when it's more affordable and mainstream

[dreamy rose]

DDR6 gonna be mad

[near nebula]

though DDR6 might be out by then.

[hollow pulsar]

The more ECC we can get, the better. If that comes with DDR6, then it can't get here soon enough.

[near nebula]

glares at the semiconductor corps for thinking of even starting on DDR7

[dreamy rose]

512 GB Sticks anyone?

[dreamy rose]

AYO 1TB STICKS?

[hollow pulsar]

Intel's "Consumers don't need reliability, let's make their lives harder" stance is getting annoying.

[near nebula]

glares not yet buddy

[hollow zealot]

Pcie ram™️

[near nebula]

ooh! why has nobody thought of this?!

[dreamy rose]

Bottleneck heaven

[near nebula]

PCIe5 could be a good argument for it

[dreamy rose]

RAM Storage?

[near nebula]

as in it connects to the northbridge and adds even more RAM to the system without bottlenecks (except for the board's maximum DT and RAM capacity)

I mean people did laugh when you could get NVMe on PCIe, but that's actually quite an untapped idea

[dreamy rose]

imagine what 1TB of RAM in a Laptop would be like

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[near nebula]

(recent LTT vid shows NVMe working on PCIe 3 after all)

[hollow pulsar]

Kind of useless if the owner of the laptop doesn't make use of it.

Even 32GB of RAM is useless if I don't use it.

[hollow zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[near nebula]

even 16gb

[dreamy rose]

i think at this point we might have too much RAM as a Minimum supported by a DDR Standard.

4 is too little, 8 is minimum, 16 is the sweet spot. i don't see 8 being obsolete as quick as 4 was

[near nebula]

to be honest if next year games push 32GB as a recommendation, we may have to sooner than we think...

[hollow pulsar]

I recommend to everyone to make 16GB the minimum when searching for a computer. I also spec their machines out for ~5 years.

[hollow zealot]

Unless you play Star Citizen, I doubt it

[near nebula]

I saw the minimum and recommended specs for Dead Space 2023 and... it requires as a minimum a RX5700

[dreamy rose]

isnt 32 the Reccomended for VR?

[hollow zealot]

Well it's dead space fancy graphics edition

[near nebula]

Dead Space Frostbite, yeah

er... can't tell you tbh @dreamy rose - though some have managed 16gb at 1080p (60+fps)

32 would be for QHD and 4K for sure

[hollow zealot]

Just a reminder

[near nebula]

double the price for Ti - even second hand

[tired glade]

Userbenchmarks really?

[dreamy rose]

UserBenchMark🤮

[near nebula]

oh, actually, £300??

but it's a few gens backwards and doesn't have Turing/RX 5k capabilities either

a beast for sure but probably not futureproof

[hollow zealot]

It's just an easy way to show a difference

[dreamy rose]

try here instead https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Radeon-RX-5700

[near nebula]

eh true, I jumped from 1660s to 5700 XT myself after all

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Radeon-RX-5700-XT

but unlike that guy earlier I now have seen strengths and weaknesses from both card maker types

[dreamy rose]

no. UserBenchMark is untrsustworthy so use Technical City

[near nebula]

and endured the utter pain of multiple Intel systems

especially laptops.

budget ones. 😬

[tired glade]

What is best cpu on userbenchmarks? Still i3?

[dreamy rose]

lmao. no Threadripper?

[near nebula]

wait, hold on...

[tired glade]

Oh,they not that bad

[near nebula]

what if he means for budget systems

[dreamy rose]

on the site in general

[near nebula]

oh, hmm...

I don't go on the site or forums as I'm a viewer mostly, but possibly? idk?

[hollow zealot]

Well it still got my point across

5700 isn't an absurd minimum card

Not for a game that's focused on fancy graphics

[dreamy rose]

use Technical City from now on. you'll thank me later

[hollow zealot]

Bruh I just can't wait for the labs site

[tired glade]

They are not fully ready

[dreamy rose]

its coming, but use a Good website while you do wait

[hollow zealot]

Well yeah

[near nebula]

true true... it's a solid competitor, I got my GPU for I think £250 for the RX 5700 XT? probably pricey compared to now but not too terrible either

[tired glade]

Is 250 MSRP?

Or it was 300

[near nebula]

second hand it's probs more if it was new, one sec

~$330 new according to this

[final berry]

I wonder if userbenchmark is even useful for 1 generation gaps on the same brand lol

[tired glade]

379 was MSRP and 500 special edition

[near nebula]

so it's gone down by around 40%

it's saying I could get the same card for about £240 secondhand (tested)

[hollow zealot]

Tbh I wish I had bought a 6650 xt

3060 TI cost me 500 USD in June

[near nebula]

same here Lux, I was looking at a 6700 but I had to get food for a few weeks so I went the gen down

and then... EVGAgate.

(Leaving the GPU market after a big fallout with NVIDIA)

that was the same week after the ...well HONK with their (NVIDIA's) 40-series lineup

been a wild month, for sure

[hollow zealot]

But tbh now that it's been a few months and I don't feel the hole in my pocket anymore

3060 Ti is really neat for my first desktop gpu

[near nebula]

well that's good to hear. my first one when I returned to desktops was... a loud and noisy GTX 780. on top of a AM2/3+ board and chipset which I codenamed Banshee

[hollow zealot]

And for the winter I'm excited to have my very own overpriced space heater

[near nebula]

haha! well hope the finances don't bite too horribly, I mean I got to change PSU which I'm hoping I can do this month

go to a modular 650 or 700w (Corsair are supposedly good on those)

[hollow zealot]

I have a rmx850

[near nebula]

I know the CPU and GPU are very cozy when playing something like Monster Hunter but it's not a good sign that I got to pivot a PSU after 8 years use (8-15 hours a day)

and it's not exactly on the PSU tier-list, an AeroCool Integrator 600w

still haven't codenamed this build, maybe Cocoon, as in it's quiet but pretty warm when playing demanding games?

[dull granite]

lmaoooo

yeah

no activity in 48h = probably doesnt care anymore

if someone aint getting responses then they can just self bump it

[hollow pulsar]

That might be a little aggressive. I'd put a hard 30-day delete... and a week-of-no-activity delete.

[near nebula]

like 30 days hard delete, or 2 weeks' inactivity?

not quite sure if that's applicable on Discord but, it might be

[hollow pulsar]

2 weeks of inactivity... you might be on vacation, but in that case, I figured they could re-state the question.
30-day hard delete because... if the community hasn't figured it out by then, you probably need professional help or vendor support.

[near nebula]

heck if they can get wifi somewhere they could ping on discord web at a cafe, I guess (unless it's difficult) or is a Data Roaming area

[severe moon]

🐱

[full fossil]

rgb cats when

@robust fjord the 550 dollar junkyard build is almost done

[robust fjord]

yeep, GPU is 1 week away

[dreamy rose]

please don't embed LED's into the Skin of your animals

[robust fjord]

PCPP reference link is up too, proving its as close to 550 as possible

[hollow pulsar]

CAT = construction vehicles.

[full fossil]

[robust fjord]

its not the actual best since I see aliexpress has undercut me by 5 bucks in the RX game @full fossil

[dreamy rose]

i'm joking lmao

[full fossil]

my cat needs rgb

[robust fjord]

[full fossil]

oof

[hollow pulsar]

So am I. 🙂

[near nebula]

CAT also means big steel boots

...what?

[dreamy rose]

Put lights in its bed. it will never sleep again

[robust fjord]

on gpu at least, but its the best build I can do without relying on the main site

[full fossil]

I'm going to embed rgb leds into the skin of my cat

[robust fjord]

technically lazada is an aliexpress branch, but at least its easier to spot bad stuff from miles away(due to localized reviews), I cant understand what I cant read ofc

[clever raft]

hello

[full fossil]

How do i get youtube on an iphone 6?

i cant update to ios 14

[wraith sonnet]

Anyone know where I can find the exact opposite of this?

Yeah, I want male USB C to female USB 3

[dreamy rose]

ngl the crash tests of cars from the 1930s look fun

Deadliest ones happened because they decided to fold on themselves while parked.

[finite cloud]

You mean one of these?

[wraith sonnet]

No

[finite cloud]

Oh you meant that. Never mind sorry

[wintry dagger]

I have a quick question but its probably not possible