public-chat

[uncut wagon]

You are wasting your money

[white radish]

saving

cause once its on the drive i just cancel the sub

[fossil frost]

in fact, im pretty sure you are lying

[uncut wagon]

I agree with @fossil frost

[white radish]

which part?

[fossil frost]

because anybody smart enough to know how to do that properly... would also be smart enough to know its not worth doing

[uncut wagon]

Exactly

[white radish]

thats why im gonna do it

[fossil frost]

because you are an idiot?

[white radish]

no just special :3

[uncut wagon]

Dude your wasting so much time money and effort

Why would you even do it

[fossil frost]

yeah, you are lying

[uncut wagon]

Yep u probs are lying tbh

[white radish]

im doing it cause everything is either 24, 30 fps

i want butter

[fossil frost]

you arent doing it, you are lying

[uncut wagon]

Dude

You are lying

And anyways there is nothing wrong with 30fps

[white radish]

got the software to upscale and switch to 60 or even 120 fps

[uncut wagon]

Dude you can’t even see 120 fps

[fossil frost]

nobody cares anymore, you are lying, and we know you are lying

[uncut wagon]

Facts

[white radish]

i can feel the difference

[uncut wagon]

Bruh

[white radish]

idk where the perception of fps drops off but still aiming for 120

[uncut wagon]

You can feel the difference?

[vapid smelt]

I've never watched a video in 120fps

[uncut wagon]

Same

You can’t even see 120FPs

The human eye can’t process it

[white radish]

unless if you slowed it down

[uncut wagon]

You are annoying us all now

[white radish]

but still, pretty neat thing to have

[uncut wagon]

Just stop

[vapid smelt]

I can feel 120fps because I'm not sure about only watching

[uncut wagon]

How do you feel it lmao

[golden talon]

120 fps is way more perceptible than 60 fps

[white radish]

but still, is 10 tb good enough for a couple of shows? or do i need about 20tb?

[golden talon]

high fps is statistically shown to improve performance in gaming

[uncut wagon]

We ain’t talking bout gaming

[vapid smelt]

Panning the camera around ingame you can "feel" and know when your not hitting 120+fps

[uncut wagon]

We talking bout how u don’t need 120 fps to watch Netflix

[golden talon]

Nobody does

But it’s perceptible and nice to have

[white radish]

panning the cam in a video has similar stuff

[uncut wagon]

The human eye can’t even see 120FPS

[white radish]

but the motion blur never goes away

[vapid smelt]

But it can

[white radish]

how much can it see then?

[golden talon]

You can perceive 120 fps easily

VERY easily

[uncut wagon]

If you have refresh rate monitor 120 then yes

[golden talon]

just switching between 120 fps and 60 fps on my iphone is leagues of difference

[white radish]

got a 165

[uncut wagon]

I have a 244hz monitor

[golden talon]

then you would understand

even if you cannot physically SEE it, your brain perceived it as a smoother image

[uncut wagon]

Eh

But I cap all my games to 60

[golden talon]

Anecdotal

[white radish]

article says the eye can see flicker rate at up to 60-90

[vapid smelt]

Disgusting

[golden talon]

Statistics show that high fps is perceivable and preferred to content consumption, that’s all there is to it

[white radish]

i guess the more adrenaline the more fps

[uncut wagon]

My pc can’t run 244 fps lol

I play flight sims for god sake

On ultra settings the Microsoft can’t get 244 fps

I cap it to 60

[white radish]

well of coure you cant on that game

[uncut wagon]

It’s a better experience

[uncut wagon]

That’s the only game I play lol

[golden talon]

that’s just an issue you’ve got then

[white radish]

capping does reduce lag spikes, which is why i cap myself at 165

[uncut wagon]

I have no issue

[golden talon]

trying to say there’s no point to 120 fps in media is straight bullshit lol

[vivid torrent]

Oh no please not this argument

[golden talon]

if you prefer 60 fps then you’re statistically part of a small minority that does not prefer high refresh rates

nothing wrong with that

[white radish]

got a big tv and i can see the frames for each clip in family guy

which is why i need more fps

gotta agree with vert

[golden talon]

it still blows my mind that people are claiming that there’s no point to high refresh rate stuff

[white radish]

true

[golden talon]

reminds me of the old days of console gamers trying to say humans can’t see more than 24 fps

[white radish]

the human eye can see from 1-120 fps given a keen eye from 90-120, and on rare occasion for adrenaline rush cases up to 200

[vivid torrent]

I don’t think human engineers would be trying to upgrade technology that isn’t perceivable by humans

[woeful minnow]

Marketing.

[white radish]

some marketing gimmiks but others are pretty useful

[woeful minnow]

People buy stuff because ooh higher number

[golden talon]

marketing is useless without scientific results to back them

[white radish]

^

good thing i alway read the spec sheets

[golden talon]

And the people that do buy stuff like that need to focus on their IQ instead of refresh rate

[white radish]

by the time i got my monitor i burned my eyes cause the monitor was so bright

i look for response rate > refresh > color accuracy and sort by price in that order

everything is decently priced

[woeful minnow]

For me it’s colour accuracy > response rate > refresh

[white radish]

content creation?

[woeful minnow]

Nope

I just couldn’t care less about refresh rate

[white radish]

ah

pretty good then

[woeful minnow]

I see nothing wrong with 60hz for the games I play

Even 30

[white radish]

ye

i only notice it when it hits 24 fps

[full fossil]

I played console for a long time, 30 fps doesn't bother me

[woeful minnow]

Some games I play at 15 fps capped

[white radish]

i remember when i had a 30 hz cap on a laptop

pretty decent for only one game, then i retired from that game

[woeful minnow]

Basically I just don’t want colours to be washed out and I don’t want to notice any input lag

[white radish]

good balance

for some reason when i do hdr on my monitor obs just freezes on hdr until i move my mouse

now i just keep it on till i gotta record

[molten drift]

A commercialy ready monitor burnt your eyes? Sounds hyperbolic

[white radish]

dark room, wanted to try monitor at 100 brightness, results: my room was decently lit and my eyes burned with happiness

didnt try it on hdr

dunno if it would make a difference

[molten drift]

Again hyperbole.. if your eyes were burnt . You would be suing the company for an unsafe product.

[white radish]

oh that

nah i would want another lol

[scarlet timber]

hii

[white radish]

name sounds familiar for some reason

[scarlet timber]

One question, isnt WAN show the fridays?

if yes, why it wasnt streamed at the LTT channel? And why the VOD isnt there either? D:

idk, it felt weird, not falling asleep while hearing the wan show

[grand pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/y4dmm4/oh_no/

[scarlet timber]

oh

thats funny... and sad

[white radish]

susprisingly why not have a blank laptop preloaded with google docs or word

[scarlet timber]

or log in with another user... but I mean, errors can happen

[white radish]

ye ig

[scarlet timber]

my WAN show watching routine is ruined now...

[white radish]

pull an old one and just listen to that

[scarlet timber]

no, because I hear them for sleep, and if I hear something I remember I am like "oh, I remember this" and my brain starts working trying to find out what comes next

[full fossil]

so linus accidentally leaked his address to 16k people?

[white radish]

damn

[vapid smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296492146066849793/1030958101769232464/unknown.png

[full fossil]

bruh

[white radish]

so now we got two unlaunchings, wan show and the 4080

[full fossil]

4080 12 gb?

[white radish]

thx im having a stroke with keyboards this week

[full fossil]

if you have a stroke put me in your will

[knotty hazel]

Does anyone know which graphics card portal rtx will work on?

Is it any rtx gpu with ray tracing or only rtx 4000 because it was made with remix?

[terse lintel]

just came here to ask why i cant find the WAN show VOD. but i guess that explains it

[crystal mirage]

well it should work on any raytracing capable gpu at least I would assume that

it would be weird if it only worked on the 4000 series

[wind pulsar]

Instead of re-releasing the VOD censored or cut out the scene, like every other normal human being would do. x')

[terse lintel]

for a video that long, id honestly think that it would take youtube a day or so to process it even if they did the edit ASAP. since they value work life balance tho, i wouldnt jump to this conclusion until maybe wednesday so theyres time to edit on monday and give YT a few days to do its thing

linus is also probably on hardcore damage control right now considering he has kids

[wind pulsar]

That doesn't really matter even if it did, it's not like they have to do anything additional while YouTube is processing it, besides cutting his address out

[wind pulsar]

Oh yeah, for sure. But he can also do damage control while cutting it out, he's got like 20 people who could do that in about five minutes 🤷‍♀️

[terse lintel]

excet its now the weekend so none of them are in office until monday probably

[dusk widget]

I made my lady mad by putting stickers on her car today while she is away. I don't regret

[wind pulsar]

When it was pulled, it wasn't 🤷‍♀️

Could've been done long ago. Not that I judge, that's his priorities, not mine

[terse lintel]

also was it the new house address that leaked? or the old one? just curious tbh. if its the new one then that would make things even worse, although i guess he at least has (had?) some redundancy with the two houses so worse case they could maybe move back in to the old one???

[wind pulsar]

They're not gonna move back into the old house after selling it and spending half a million dollars in their new house, lmfao

[terse lintel]

oh they already sold it. i assumed they had both concurrently like on a permanent basis (at least until after move in), just didnt know it was already signed away

[terse lintel]

reddit seems to think itll be listed as public again tomorrow (sunday)

[knotty isle]

Interesting

[fleet olive]

WAN show is filmed on Friday night and they don't work weekends so I'd guess a Monday release?

[runic lagoon]

now you can get back to playing siv III, at 20 FPS.

[fleet olive]

Unless Linus and Luke do it themselves I don't think anyone will do it on the weekend. IIRC only their management works weekends.

Kind of sad though as I like slowly absorbing the WAN show over the weekend but meh

[outer pollen]

I was hoping to watch it right after it finished bc I was busy... but oh well

[leaden gale]

Is the WAN VOD not on YT yet

[outer pollen]

nope

[leaden gale]

Ouch

[graceful burrow]

It's on floatplane

[leaden gale]

Feel bad for non-FP subs tho

[graceful burrow]

Sucks ig

[wraith sonnet]

I'm curious how bad the leak was

[dreamy rose]

how bad is it if people have your address?

[graceful burrow]

If you're famous and make videos showing how much cool expensive tech is in your house

About as bad as it gets

[outer pollen]

💀

[dreamy rose]

what?

[hybrid shell]

VERY bad

[dreamy rose]

oh, you think i didn't know

yeah of course i know its really bad, someone was asking

[hybrid shell]

bru

[eager notch]

Considering it's the internet, it's not that hard to figure out where someone is or where they live

[dreamy rose]

i'm not an idiot yo.

i'm just answering someone's question

[terse lintel]

Dan confirmed same day edit and long ass YouTube processing. Should be up Sunday

[fleet olive]

Makes sense Google videos take forever to process

[sinful skiff]

Hello

[granite finch]

lol

[leaden gale]

YT processing is literally the scum of the earth

[fleet olive]

Eh as a dev building a video rendering pipeline for like 500m uploads a day sounds tough

[manic torrent]

not really

as a solution architect it sounds exciting 😄

also really the issues of scale mean that you split it all out and you'd have several layers and redunancies. The main issue is the law of large numbers mean that any possible problem WILL occur.

[hollow knot]

Balls

[hollow pulsar]

I agree. I spend 10% doing something cool and 90% accounting for bumps, hiccups, versions, and other wacky inconsistencies.

[tribal compass]

Is factorio worth it?

[full fossil]

it is, as long as you remember this one phrase

the factory must grow

[manic torrent]

If you want 3d factorio but different, satisfactory

[full fossil]

satisfactory is really cool

[manic torrent]

I have an entire dual line rail network 😄

[full fossil]

I play an rpg where you build tracks and run trains everywhere and I have express lines and dual rails (there and back so four rails hooked up total)

I have one-way lines everywhere so when I play multiplayer there's no risk of collision

Passing tracks everywhere

Shunting yards at every industry

[keen lantern]

hey

[misty scarab]

what socket is 12900ks

[full fossil]

lga 1700

[misty scarab]

thank

[mint abyss]

my pc has been using the same 600w bronze psu for like 9 years, got me thinking if I had spent $50 more and bought a gold/plat rated psu back then, would I have saved money instead?

[viscid sand]

I'm sure this has been asked and answered a bunch but why did the wan show get taken down a 2nd time?

Was 40 mins in had to leave pc for a bit and got back to nothing there

[hearty spear]

probably not

[hearty spear]

KS is a fairly stupid processor in most instances, except for bragging rights.
And given 13th gen is dropping, it's even losing that

[eager notch]

Live

Laugh

[hearty spear]

no

[eager notch]

Liao

[misty scarab]

pc building sim 2 tho

im just making outrageous pcs in freebuild to get a feel for the game and then im going to do carreer mode

[hearty spear]

well, if it's only pretend, that's fine

[misty scarab]

its pretend so I can spraypaint the PC pink and put in 2 sli 3090s or 4 1080tis

they added 3 and 4 way sli in PCBS2

is a 3990x better than a 12900k for some workloads

[rancid cedar]

Yes, for sure

Anything that scales well across multiple cores will finish faster on a 3990X, e.g. 3D rendering. But as a desktop system you'd actually sit at and use, the 12900K will feel way faster

[fluid ridge]

huh

i was under the impression that more cores took precedence over core clock speeds

IE a 5995wx would be faster than a 12900K at everything

[hearty spear]

Neither:

It's a combination of IPC and Clock Speed that matters more.
Core Count only matters if the application can actually use the number of cores.

[fluid ridge]

is there a reason why certain applications are unable to fully utilize all cores?

[hearty spear]

And the number of apps actually capable of utilizing more than 16 threads at once is very very small

[hearty spear]

Simple: Building/Coding an application / engine that can scale to 64 or 128 threads? It's really REALLY fucking hard.

[rancid cedar]

Best analogy I know of is this: You can't get 9 women to give birth to a baby in one month

Some formulas and operations are sequential in nature. You have to do this first, then that second, then this other thing third.

[hearty spear]

0.o ...... huh?

[rancid cedar]

This is true of a ton of things on computers. Especially user interfaces. Which is why good single-thread performance on a CPU will make a computer feel more "snappy"

[granite tinsel]

i really want PC building sim 2 after i saw how much it improved over the first game from the LTT video, but... epic games

[fluid ridge]

if (coreCount > 8 && coreCount < 64) {
runApplication(true);
}```

easy

[rancid cedar]

Think you mean &&, not ||

As written, that if statement will always be true

[fluid ridge]

is || not or?

[hearty spear]

clearly you've solved the issue, now go sell that to everyone doing single threaded world engines

[fluid ridge]

oh i am a pepega i should use and

[hearty spear]

imagine how many threads CSGO can get if it started to utilize 16 threads easily!

[rancid cedar]

@fluid ridge hehe

Life of a software developer

[fluid ridge]

fr

[fluid ridge]

6000fps

[misty scarab]

is there a shitposting channel

[fluid ridge]

yeah #tech-chat-1

[hearty spear]

no

[hearty spear]

shitposting is explicitly in the rules as "no"

[misty scarab]

well idk if this is shitposting or not

its more like a meme

[hearty spear]

memes are also "no"

[misty scarab]

its from a game

its a screenshot of a game

[fluid ridge]

i really really want one of those red 8k cameras

good thing god blessed me with 2 kidneys 💪

[hearty spear]

better make sure it's the correct dream: That trick is only do-able once....

[fluid ridge]

that is true

good thing i have a spleen and a liver too

[full fossil]

it works more than once if you're deadpool

[hearty spear]

And statistically speaking? That guy is not.

[full fossil]

he could be

[fluid ridge]

you ever wonder how some drone footage is shot in 8k?

do they attach one of those heavy ass red film cameras up there and risk a probably very expensive drone with a even more expensive camera

[full fossil]

it's a shame that colin left

colin was really cool

[fluid ridge]

he left?

the dude that kept getting fired?

[full fossil]

yeah he left ltt

[hearty spear]

no that's colton

[full fossil]

no thats colton

[fluid ridge]

oh

[hearty spear]

jinx

[fluid ridge]

i have no idea who colin is then

[full fossil]

you owe me a coke

[fluid ridge]

i know linus, anthony, james, riley and plouffe

[full fossil]

watch the colin extreme tech upgrade

[hearty spear]

DAVID!

[fluid ridge]

i probably butchered ploufes name

david left too iirc

[full fossil]

I know too many names of the people on ltt

[fluid ridge]

david the guy behind the camera right

[full fossil]

i didn't know that

[hearty spear]

wait, what? He's been on recently

No, David's the tall guy who they had doing soldering and shit

[fluid ridge]

im almost sure he left

[full fossil]

why would he leave?

[fluid ridge]

k nvm

[full fossil]

💀

[hearty spear]

Linus is never gonna let Dennis live down the house damage they did

[full fossil]

nope

[fluid ridge]

dennis has been on the crew for many years

[full fossil]

hahaha

[misty scarab]

What GPU would pair best with a 5800X3D

[full fossil]

3080 or 6800xt

[fluid ridge]

wait for ryzen 7000 X3D

[misty scarab]

im either gonna jump the gun and get an 5800x3d or get the 7800

[fluid ridge]

5800X3D isnt good for much else besides gaming IIRC

if you need a god tier gaming and productivity chip 7950X 😎

[hearty spear]

it's still 8c/16t which ain't a slouch, unless you need high-end productivity

[slate agate]

it performs a little slower (like a couple percent in many things) then a regular 5800x

and the regular 5800x is a fine do whatever you need with it cpu

still an 8 core 16 threaded processor

[fluid ridge]

fair

i think the best gaming chip right now is the 12600K

[full fossil]

best VALUE gaming chip

make sure you specify

[fluid ridge]

yeah

best value

• i have one so it's clearly the best

[granite finch]

ahah'/DHF;aDH

^^^ thats how I feel rn

[dreamy rose]

best chip on the planet

apart from Cool Ranch Doritos ofc

[candid sable]

I found something out recently

Never join Greg Salazars discord server it's filled with toxic users

Even the moderators in that server are toxic

[dreamy rose]

whos that

[ocean narwhal]

Science Studio 😎

Or whatever his old user was

[candid sable]

He's similar to LTT where he talks about stuff in the tech world as well as repairs viewers pcs for free if he can film it

[ocean narwhal]

Salazar studio? Man I can't remember

[dreamy rose]

i see

[candid sable]

That's him but he changed the channel name to Greg Salazar

[ocean narwhal]

Yeah yea I just couldn't remember his og name

[candid sable]

So I was trying to get help from that server cuz my windows install is refusing to install and the person was being rude to me and I went to a mod about it and all I got was the mod being toxic as well

And blatantly refused to enforce the rules

I would rather get no help here than people being toxic to me when I ask for help

Well I already get no help from here so

[hollow pulsar]

Did you post in #1027757333117415424 ?

[candid sable]

Twice

One almost 24 hours ago but I fixed that and one 5 hours ago

Which I have an idea on how to fix it but still having trouble trying to do the fix

Honestly I like what they did with that channel

It clears up easily

[granite tinsel]

best if you ask in #1027757333117415424

[versed panther]

Hey, can you make a thread in #1027757333117415424 that describes your issue?

[tribal compass]

Anyone tried factorio on steamdeck in a new game?

[inner merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj1ykZWtPYI

[cosmic dune]

Has anyone seen any 4090 restocks yet?

[hearty spear]

he made a thread asking people to DM him

[nimble jacinth]

Just asking, but does anyone here watch PC Centric?

[hearty spear]

never heard of it

[nimble jacinth]

you know the channel where the host looks like Scott the Woz but he becomes a PC nerd

[hearty spear]

nope

[nimble jacinth]

idk the content on his channel seems like it's full of product shill stuff yet he has like 570k subs

[ripe parcel]

to those of you who have a second monitor or more how bad is a 1366x768 60hz 32" tv

[nimble jacinth]

welp, I forgot I can't post images here, was about to show what his videos on the channel are like

[ripe parcel]

lol

[hearty spear]

absolutely terrible, unless you're planning on low-res games

that's way under 1080. It'll be absolute gross, with pixels you can easy see individually

[ripe parcel]

i just use it to ltt videos cause my laptop only has 4gb of ram

[ripe parcel]

even from like 40 to 60 cm away i can see the pixels in the windows logo

[nimble jacinth]

Oh right I actually used to play PS3 on a 768p 32" tv

[ripe parcel]

than you understand my pain

[nimble jacinth]

It looks okayish for console (old consoles that is) but it looks like an absolute crap with PC

[golden talon]

I cant believe im genuinely considering keeping these AirPods Maxes rn lmfao

$600 and they just sound so good

[ripe parcel]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/toowoomba/monitors/acer-xz350cu-monitor/1256873391 its 1440p 144hz but the screen is damaged and they have cables to test it. do i take the gamble because i can but up my some cracks but not if its propper broken???

[golden talon]

I bought them with the intention of returning them in a week or two but now... i dunno

[ripe parcel]

if you want them i suppose it justified

[golden talon]

Thats the issue

[hearty spear]

it's gonna be busted

[golden talon]

I want them but I cannot justify $600 for them but theyre just so good in a way that other headphones arent

[hearty spear]

nobody is selling that screen for 50$ if it works

[ripe parcel]

ikr.

i mean how much you estimate to repair it

[manic torrent]

Lol no power cable.

[hearty spear]

too much, getting a replacemtn LCD will be $$$

[manic torrent]

That's a lie.

[ripe parcel]

ikr

[manic torrent]

If you can even get parts

[nimble jacinth]

Deal looks really sus

[ripe parcel]

how much would you say

[wispy marsh]

Hey

[nimble jacinth]

not to mention it's a pretty old monitor + niche

[manic torrent]

I wouldn't bother.

[wispy marsh]

Is it viable to block off some vents on my chassis?

[manic torrent]

I just binned my 34" uw with a broken lcd

[manic torrent]

I mean, you can do it, nobody will stop you

[ripe parcel]

i would be buying other monitors at the same time so im considering because in the very unlikely chance it works good enough i get an ultrawide 34" monitor

[hearty spear]

usually a bad idea

[hearty spear]

you'lll blow 50$ on a piece of e-waste

[ripe parcel]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/porepunkah/monitors/dual-gaming-monitors-on-arm-/1302315072 these are the other monitors i want

[ripe parcel]

probably right

[wispy marsh]

Why?

[manic torrent]

I bought an Acer 144hz 27" 1440p IPS flat for $350 off gumtree

[hearty spear]

you want air to go in, and hot air to leave.
Blocking that is rarely good for a PC

[wispy marsh]

But if i block the vents, then hot air will leave and cold air will enter

[manic torrent]

It really depends what PC it is, how the airflow is set up, blah blah blah. Blocking off some holes in a case with a lot of airflow is usually nothing to care about

[ripe parcel]

not quite how it works

[hearty spear]

what

[versed panther]

That makes no sense…

[manic torrent]

magic

[hearty spear]

no, the magic smoke needs to stay in

[wispy marsh]

I have one in and one out, and I want to block off other vents

The case i have is the g1se

[versed panther]

It literally won’t affect airflow to have more holes around your exhaust fan

[wispy marsh]

No, no, i have holes inside the pc between the intake and exhaust sides

[hearty spear]

holy shit, do NOT block any vents on that tiny case

[manic torrent]

Fluid dynamics is hard.

[versed panther]

Oh my god yeah no

It needs every dang hole

[manic torrent]

Basically.... It could be great... It could be terrible

[hearty spear]

that's a super compact ITX case. DO NOT BLOCK ANYTHING

[versed panther]

Holy crap lol

[wispy marsh]

I see, I have top intake and bottom exhaust, so should I make my fans all intake or all exhaust?

[manic torrent]

Pressure, flow, route, Eddies, laminar flow, yadda yadda

[hearty spear]

test and see what works best

[wispy marsh]

I don't need a fixer

[versed panther]

For starters I’d never exhaust down, only back/up

[hearty spear]

.... what?
Are we in Cyberpunk now?

[versed panther]

Intake bottom/front

[wispy marsh]

Eddies are eurodollars, no?

[versed panther]

Uh..not in this context?

[manic torrent]

No.

[wispy marsh]

Hmm

[versed panther]

An eddie is a type of moving body of water

[manic torrent]

It's when air spins around basically cavitating

[wispy marsh]

No, I don't know the context

I should ask around in sffpc

[manic torrent]

Not just water, anything flowong

[versed panther]

Ah, yeah, fair

[wispy marsh]

I don'f have a lot of heat coming out of that case

It's a mid-end gaming system with 16gb, 5600x and 6800xt

[versed panther]

check the core temps

[wispy marsh]

About 90+ and 90+

[versed panther]

Jesus

[hearty spear]

0.o

[manic torrent]

Looooooool

[versed panther]

Buy more fans and turn it off until then

[hearty spear]

what CPU Cooler?

[versed panther]

Lmaooo yikes.

[wispy marsh]

It's a no-name cooler from taobao

[versed panther]

There’s the problem

[hearty spear]

your first mistake

[fluid ridge]

youd get better temps if you fanned it by hand

[manic torrent]

Replace all fans with blowiematrons

[versed panther]

Nah, first mistake was building a sff pc

[wispy marsh]

[versed panther]

[fluid ridge]

i have an sff pc

3070, 12600K thermals are excellent

[hearty spear]

66mm max CPU Cooler height......

[past egret]

i also have one and its completely fine

[versed panther]

We all make mistakes, it’s okay!

[manic torrent]

Building a good sff PC is expensive and difficult

[wispy marsh]

Should I have something like a noctua c12 or something

[past egret]

the ssd gets a little toasty sometimes but its fine

[versed panther]

exactly

[hearty spear]

Check for compatible coolers here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/htmlview?usp=drive_web&ouid=110255226819807575343&pru=AAABhAOIUrM*WLIEvZ6ro7SiLD_MFtsn7A

[wispy marsh]

Hmm

[hearty spear]

66mm or under

[manic torrent]

I was looking at building an sff PC but ended up with an egpu.

[fluid ridge]

mine has 0 thermal issues and i have 1 case fan

[versed panther]

The first indicator of not being the right person to build in a sff case is even contemplating buying from taobao/wish/aliexpress

[past egret]

technically a SFF

[fluid ridge]

i have a Noctua D12L and a 3 fan 3070 + 1 case fan doing exhaust from the top

[wispy marsh]

You what mate

[fluid ridge]

nr200p

[wispy marsh]

[past egret]

im using an AIO thats why

[versed panther]

Yeah but that’s a noctua

[manic torrent]

Oh for sure, but I didn't need to design it

[versed panther]

Noctua’s cpu coolers are great for case fan assists lol

[hearty spear]

my Jonsbo N1 has a Noctua L9i and the default 140mm exhausting out the top

[wispy marsh]

My fans are 3x nidec gentle typhoon 1850's plus one phanteks p12-slim

I also have the built-in fan for the southbridge

[manic torrent]

Nah I would totally buy stuff from anywhere for an sff build..... But I know what I'm looking at and where to spend money.

[fluid ridge]

been playing siege for about an hour, thermals are 57 degrees on the CPU

[wispy marsh]

Should i buy a cooler with a dan

My cooler is currently only the heatsink

[hearty spear]

WHAT?!

NO FAN ?!?!

[wispy marsh]

No fan

[past egret]

you get 57? i barely reach 50

[hearty spear]

yeah, that's a MAJOR problem

[wispy marsh]

I have heatsink only on the gpu and cpu

[fluid ridge]

you have aio not me

:C

[wispy marsh]

I see, I shall order a noctua cooler

[hearty spear]

can you post pics in #tech-chat-1 ?

[versed panther]

Bro a heatsink needs a fan to do crap lol

[dreamy rose]

not exactly. passive cooling is a thing

[hearty spear]

not in a tiny sfx case lol

[versed panther]

Yeah, but as seen by that one giant heatsink shown off in that backwards motherboard video

[dreamy rose]

Passive cooling is pretty shit without Aid but still its an option

[fluid ridge]

rasberry pis 😎

[hearty spear]

it also needs a LOT of surface area

[fluid ridge]

macbook air

[versed panther]

Only for dinky intel processors or ARM stufg

[dreamy rose]

Shitty on the Macbooks

[versed panther]

The MBA is literally an aluminum slab which thermal throttles

It can’t run at its full potential fanless

[hearty spear]

i wonder if it could, if you put the entire case on a chilled pad?

[versed panther]

And that’s with one of the best damn metals for heat spreading next to copper.

Yeah, of course but how do those work? Fans.

[fluid ridge]

you could just put it on a block of dry ice

fan free -360 degree celsius cooling

[wispy marsh]

#tech-chat-1 my cooling situation, there

[full fossil]

watching old valve developer commentary is crazy man. games really aren’t made like they used to be

[plush bone]

not sure which channel is appropriate but right now on the LTT floatplane page (not signed in or a member) it keeps refreshing endlessly without letting me do anything (I can scroll but gets reset on refresh). Is anyone else seeing something like this? I tested on Brave, Brave Private browsing, and Edge and saw it each time

[wispy marsh]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[plush bone]

had to turn on preserve log to get it but here is the console log (in #tech-chat-2)

interestingly if I sign into an account and visit I don't have that issue

even if not sub'd

[outer pollen]

ayeee they posted the VOD 😄😄😄

[vague fern]

I feel bad for linus

[dreamy rose]

finally

[wispy marsh]

Where's the wan show?

[dreamy rose]

up

[outer pollen]

on youtube

[full fossil]

I got this virus / extension on my Chrome called “Ultra” … I probably downloaded something smh … Every time I try and remove it , it closes all tabs and comes back

are low blue light displays just gimmicks or are there some kind of tech behind it? i though this could be accomplished by manually turning down the blue on the RGB. you can even use flux or redshift on linux.

[full fossil]

So I basically only use opera now since chrome is unusable for me 💀

if yall have any tips for me ill gladly hear them out

[past egret]

use firefox

[mellow matrix]

best tip

[slim yacht]

use malwarebytes then lol

it must have been installed by you on device instead of on the browser itself

[wispy marsh]

Yay

It's up!

[manic torrent]

that's true of everything

[honest horizon]

Why are there no phone chargers that both do slow and fast charge with the flick of a button?

Would be nice. In a rush? Use fast charge
Charge while sleeping? Use slow charge and save battery

[stark meadow]

i think some phones can do that in software

but might be wrong abt that

[manic torrent]

I've never seen it - however there are some software driven chargers that can change various things, and there are also a lot of man-in-the-middle devices that allow you to change and limit power.

[barren lagoon]

yeah pretty sure its up to the charging IC in the phone itself that dictates the speed of charging in the moment

[honest horizon]

hah indeed! In Samsung battery settings you can turn fats charge off.

But it's a burried menu

Time to write a sniplet to toggle on home screen 😆

[barren lagoon]

my Pixel 6 Pro slows to like 10 watts overnight, whilst boosting to 20+ in the middle of the day

[manic torrent]

yes, but but the upper limit is defined by the charger.

[barren lagoon]

Yeah, but Panic asked why wasn't there a charger with a button to switch. But there isn't a reason for it when that kinda control is in the phone already

[graceful burrow]

You could pretty easily build one

[manic torrent]

it isn't though. The phone will fast charge all the time if available

[barren lagoon]

Again, Pixel 6 Pro on Android 13, it already limits fast charging when I'm sleeping, and caps itself at 80 percent until about 30ish minutes before my alarm goes off where it will charge to 95. But, if I plug it in in the afternoon, it goes to fast charging immediately.

[honest horizon]

Not neccessarily, Samsung has a setting to deactive it

But I think it would still be handy to have that option on a charger

[manic torrent]

as mentioned, buried

[honest horizon]

easier to flick a switch on the charger, than having to change stuff on the phone (And possibly forget in a hurry)

[manic torrent]

fantastic, I'm happy for you, but it's still a pretty reasonable request

The project I was thinking off was the crosshub - thunderbolt 4 power docking stations, but it's on a site for crowdfunding.

[dreamy rose]

no. Mozilla has gone too downhill to really Compete with Chromium

[past egret]

you replied to a comment an hour ago that wasnt made for you?

[dreamy rose]

just saying Firefox has no chance to compete

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/5CT3VxqSBvw

[manic torrent]

as much as I generally disagree with him, it's a public channel, and that's fair enough 🙂

[vapid smelt]

But you didn't tag anyone in that comment so who were you talking to the wind?

[earnest token]

Does linus still game?

I feel like he probably doesn't have time to play through campaigns with how much he has to manage

[manic torrent]

why do you want 240hz?

[tired glade]

are you pro?

[idle sandal]

whats up guys

[manic torrent]

I mean the 'best' is the Oddyssey Neo G9, but it's not 4k, because it's ultrawide.

[idle sandal]

and like 2 grand

[manic torrent]

.... no shit. he asked for the best.

[idle sandal]

nah lemme just drop the value of my PC on a monitor lol

[tired glade]

he asking best of the best

[idle sandal]

i would like one tho

[manic torrent]

I'm sitting here in front of an Aorus FO48U 4k OLED

[idle sandal]

niice

[tired glade]

aren't oled faster?

[manic torrent]

It is yes.

[idle sandal]

yeah

[manic torrent]

yes, they are faster, but only updates 120hz

but you get those 120hz faster ....

[tired glade]

oh, right

[idle sandal]

an oled tv would be perfect for a console

[manic torrent]

because physics is hard.

[tired glade]

we not at CRT lvls yet

[manic torrent]

yes, but my monitor isn't a TV, and I don't have any consoles at the moment.

[tired glade]

there are oled monitors already

[idle sandal]

yeah too expensive for me tho lol

[tired glade]

price isn't really part of "the best"

[manic torrent]

What size? 4K 240hz is at the top end of what is available, and you're going to be very limited

why do you want 4k?

I just can't see how you're getting value out of 4k at that size for csgo

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love overkill, it's the best kind of kill!

[tired glade]

is CS support variable refresh rate technology in any form?

[manic torrent]

who cares? framerates will be a jillion, it's csgo

[tired glade]

just to slap gsync on it

[manic torrent]

Cool, that makes more sense

[tired glade]

Odyssey Neo G8 is the best

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r4fnTW/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-ls32bg852nnxgo-320-3840x2160-240-hz-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo

[manic torrent]

^^ that is what I would buy

given your requirements as stated

ok, literally everyone ever - take note, this is how you ask for a product recommendation. Give background, answer questions, provide rationale, and requirements.

[tired glade]

and get ignored, because I saw that video that said - maybe it's the best

[vapid smelt]

What connector supports 4k at 240hz?

[tired glade]

HDMI 2, I think is minimum

[vapid smelt]

4090 only has 1.4a if I recall right

[tired glade]

2 is just 4k 60

minimum 2,1 or display 2

HDMI(2), 3x DisplayPort(3)

[vapid smelt]

Looks like it

[tired glade]

Supports 4K 120Hz HDR, 8K 60Hz

hope 4090 ti will have 2,0

2

at least in US, 4090 already 2k in some part of the world

kidney cost around 40k, so we not even close

ok, how much do you use right now?

that 4 tb will last for long

if you need that

at work, I burn 2-3tb a day with all medical data

if you have such work load, yea, that 1,5k doesn't look good

it's not good idea

windows only use about 80gb

can be low as 30

it will take like 10-15 sec now

if you bootloader not full of useles thing

I am on hdd and it take 10-15 sec

jump don't forget to enable dual boot

[vapid smelt]

Wtf

[tired glade]

haha, they just got it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iSAyiicyQY

[vapid smelt]

So it technically can do 4k 240hz

[manic torrent]

4K 240Hz, which requires 55.2Gbit/s of bandwidth

Blowiematron

[vapid smelt]

Works with display port to the dsc (display stream compression) is the secret sauce on the g8 that makes it work at 240hz

[manic torrent]

yeah pretty much

I chose mine primarily based on cost and aesthetics, because with 9 of them, eh.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-003V-003N4 best airflow for a 120mm 4 pin pwm fan

[manic torrent]

needs more fan showdown fans 😄

[vapid smelt]

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420mm

https://youtu.be/xCxqITPtXXA

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B08HLPFXWM

[white monolith]

Hi

[lethal copper]

Worst part of moving away from iPhone ecosystem is having a year old apple watch that already tanked in value

I currently use my old garmin instinct but I think I'll just try using an apple watch without an iPhone :/

[cerulean saffron]

Hibernated last night. Woke up to clean start today. Entire session gone. No idea why...

Windows can be absolute unpredictable garbage at times

[lethal copper]

Honestly only use Windows in case I get some game that isn't on Linux or mac

Apple watch does not work with Android

Thats one of its main (and only) problems

But I would gain nothing

Connecting Apple watch to android literally gives you 0 things

It still won't sync notifications and share exercise data

I don't do either :/

My next watch in a few years will probably be a garmin

I like garmin watches

?

[manic torrent]

meanwhile, here's me, my watch has ... hands.

[lethal copper]

Maybe once fenix.. 8? Or forerunner 965 is out

No, garmin

Probably best smart watch brand I know

Extremely expensive but at least doesn't even need a phone

Yes!

[lethal copper]

Non smart watches are cool

But I have a bit of a trouble getting time on analogue and 12 hour fast

I mean, they look good

Nah I prefer darker colors

Honestly regret picking apple watch 8 over fenix 7

I mean, I certainly couldn't have predicted apple starting to dumb down devices in my country

And forcing me to upgrade like 1-2 years earlier than expected

Bit still, weeks of battery would be cool

What's the point? Doesn't work in my country

🤨

Of course I can

I am currently in the middle of a park on my unlimited LTE

[manic torrent]

I'm old AF so I'm used to clocks

[lethal copper]

It requires e-sim that also works with Apple

We still don't have widely accepted esims

...the thing that makes Apple watch lte work

[random jolt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM

[lethal copper]

🤣

All I want is a garmin with Mir pay tbh

Are some American phones really locked to carriers?

Alright

[manic torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375445009861705728/1031170553802936370/unknown.png

All forza races are 1v1, prove me wrong.

[lethal copper]

Honestly in a lot of games it's like this

In TF2 it's often me and some other enemy having 15-20 point above everyone else in the scoreboard

[manic torrent]

These are AI racers

[lethal copper]

Oh wow

Tbh feels good having a leather case again

[manic torrent]

basically, you need to get in front ASAP, and depending on a few things, if you ram the fast car into a wall or whatever, you're home free

[lethal copper]

Do you really want to learn c++ and java?

wow

[manic torrent]

ehhhhh, all languages are the same after long enough

[lethal copper]

I won't touch Java with a 10 foot stick and only learned c++ for Olympiads

[manic torrent]

I mean, I wouldn't want to do java or C++ as a primary permanent gig for sure.

[lethal copper]

I know Python for general use and C++ for competitive but right now js is growing on me

Oh and Lua, Lua is one of my favourites but rarely has a practical use

[manic torrent]

uhhh, do you mean javaSCRIPT

[lethal copper]

Java is absolutely not the mainstream language for websites

js is main and php with python are doing some things

[manic torrent]

or typescript, or whatever the fuck it's called now

[manic torrent]

nobody uses php anymore

[lethal copper]

Typescript is basically JS but they added some optional stuff

[manic torrent]

well, nobody SHOULD use php anymore

yeah I know.

[lethal copper]

I mean, sure it's a half dead language but it's absolutely used a lot. Wikipedia, moodle, and half a dozen other random things

[manic torrent]

but js, python, databases, and an understanding of how networks work will let you do 99% of everything

[lethal copper]

Yes, I feel like php is language of existing projects but almost never new ones

I had no idea anyone seriously considered Java for web dev

I'm potentially a future web developer so currently learning JS and try not to forget python

[manic torrent]

oh no, HEAPS of stuff is in java. lots of commercial stuff, but java is super fast for web stuff.

[lethal copper]

Alright then, thanks for info!

[manic torrent]

the issue is that generally stuff that's written in java is absolute garbage, same issue as PHP

whenever I read most java or php it makes me want to self-terminate

but it is something I can never do

[lethal copper]

I'm becoming a web developer but my dream thing would probably be writing for something like baseALT or astra Linux or even just for Elbrus cpus, but I'm terrible at low level things

I already had a job in dev as a contractor

Yay first job at 15 mission accomplished

[manic torrent]

I have worked as a sysadmin and solution architect for 20 years...

[lethal copper]

That's how I managed to afford a server and a new phone

Don't forget css

Honestly HTML is basic, it's practically a canvas for CSS

You can learn 80% of html in 15 minutes, but I believe that after 1 year I only scratched the surface of css

[manic torrent]

HTML doesn't really matter - you need to understand the DOM, because it doesn't matter if it's in js or html, it's the same

[lethal copper]

...

[manic torrent]

I would say they are necessarily inextricable in 2022, but they are not the same 🙂

[lethal copper]

Lmao, they work together but they are NOT the same

Well?

Well yes

[manic torrent]

this is technically wrong

the best kind of wrong

[lethal copper]

It's like saying chrome extensions and chrome are the same because one of them cannot be used without other

🤨

What

I kinda want to get a .su domain

[latent carbon]

is there a file transfering program (between different computers) for windows?

[lethal copper]

It's called a USB stick?

Otherwise I can suggest using something like Google drive

I used my nextcloud to move files

[manic torrent]

use kermit

setup a dynamic replicating block device that keeps in sync and copy it to that

[lethal copper]

Wrote 2 tech articles on the web and 0 views after 3 days :'(

What's weird is it says I have been shown in feed and have ctr above 0 🤨

Doesn't that mean I have above 0 views?

Kermit is a file transfer thing

If I remember correctly

Seriously wtf I have CTR of 1-10% and have been shown in feed 300 times

Basic math, I should have received at least 1 view

Ghosts like my channel!

I know

It's hard.

I mean, the basic stuff is decent if you know other languages

And pointers aren't as hard as people say (usually)

But there are so much easier languages out there

Also classes and inheritance are not as good

Inheritance means you need to have an instance of parent class as one of child class's variables

And you can only overwrite cirtual functions

Basically hard to explain, c++ js decent but harder than I would want

[full fossil]

4090 w/ soldered 48GB when?

[tired glade]

Without load,it will be just increase the price tag

Games do not even use 24 gb at 4k

On display 1,4?

[full fossil]

I think the GPU can do 8K 60, but need more memory for just bandwidth

[tired glade]

Had you saw price tag on 8k TV?

[full fossil]

I no millionare to afford, just wanted to see more and more.

[tired glade]

High end 4k monitor just starting drop from 5 digit price point

[full fossil]

I also think, not sure, but all and each memory modules directly wired to GPU

[tired glade]

They just get highest priced part

They don't care how good it is

[full fossil]

ouch

[tired glade]

Most likely they even play at 60hz

[full fossil]

Stop stomping my dreams. Mod he's being bully*.

[night heron]

the theoretical 4090Ti has 48gb

[manic torrent]

The thing is - it's all diminishing returns.

You can game very happily in 1440p on a 27" at 144hz for a medium price.

[full fossil]

well when it will theoritically launches?

[manic torrent]

it's currently on hold

[full fossil]

I guess they will now wait a year, with fall of crypto-mining(I'm wording too aggresively) there will be already lots of RTX 3000 cards

[night heron]

no clue of when itll release

[full fossil]

• we are not the richest but most bang for bucks

[manic torrent]

There's already warehouses full of 30 series cards

It's why only the top end 40 series are available.

[night heron]

once everyone collectively decided to just wait they got fucked

[full fossil]

well nvidia litreally said fuck-you-gamers

[manic torrent]

yeah basically this

[full fossil]

they sold there warehouses for miners and now miners are fuck-you-nvidia-stocks.

probably coming 2-5 years will be very hard on nvidia, they can launch new stuff but board partners will not manufacture anymore before old warehouse ends.

does anyone even buys RTX 2000 or older?

[manic torrent]

They don't make them anymore

[full fossil]

I think bad time is coming for gamers.

manufactures are not intrested in selling even at break-even-point, nvidia does about 20% uplift from each gen setup-up, so even in this year and............

All the burden of costs will comedown to gamers

[manic torrent]

I too, like to eat lead paint chips

[full fossil]

we will see AMD as our new hope.

Hail AMD

Also, would Ryzen 7000 is gonna fall soon? IDK but they did not achieve the same IPC as intell, I suspect they are behind by 20-50% depending on applications. They just boosting buses way higher and using efficency to cram more.

[manic torrent]

oh no that's terrible. Using effeciency to make things faster? That's terrible.

[full fossil]

(Well I will leave this theory to comeback in 2 years and see.)

[thorny helm]

Bruh what the hell guys, every time Linus makes an update on the 69dollar PC he first chooses the GPU that I currently use and then decides to pick something else lmfao

[full fossil]

huh?

[thorny helm]

He started with the GTX 1060 and then switched to the RX580

[full fossil]

:deepfriedlaugh:

[thorny helm]

Happened to me with the last edition too lmao

[full fossil]

enjoy the amd line-of-performance-updates.

Becuz, they work

oof, I just gagged on a cloth pin

Which CPU+GPU combo is best to do 4K+60hz, seeing lot of console-replacement or couch-PCs

[manic torrent]

4k60? anything midrange or higher, more or less.

[full fossil]

nah, I want something that can garentue no just avg 60, but in low 0.1%s

[manic torrent]

5800x3d and a 6800xt/3080 would be fine

[tacit falcon]

How do you know if a nvme is that or just a m.2 ssd or is there a difference

[dreamy rose]

if there's one notch its NVME, if its got two is MSATA

[tacit falcon]

Notch?

[full fossil]

nvme is always b/m(IDK which) key slot, while msata is B+M key slot

google these terms to get more.

[tacit falcon]

Oki doki, just deciding if the storage i have [that a friend swapped with my other laptop] is good vs getting something faster, but i might just leave it in and get a standard ssd

[full fossil]

yeah nvme expensive.

[dreamy rose]

NVME and SATA drives don't work together. keep that in mind.

[tacit falcon]

I might just have to open the laptop up and see, im 100% theres a empty SSD drive and theres some sort of nvme/ m.2 drive put in

[full fossil]

well he cannot by 2 drives tear the packaging and expect one of the 2 returned.

you can try laptop model no. official website might show under replacement parts. that is just to reference whether that m.2-2280/2260 is b/m/b+m key

Also remember NVME is a technology and not rating of speed. People may rip you off claiming a normal ssd claiming NVME.

nah, just do native 8K. Also did anyone moded card for more power?

lowest height-adjustable-desk?

[manic torrent]

wut? that makes no sense.

[full fossil]

yeah it does, I have a full bodylenght/2 person side to side bean bag

I wanted to lower desk so It could be atleast 2 feets

or custom make?

[full fossil]

since monitor's center line is about a feet.

[tacit falcon]

Thank you, sorry im still very much a tech noob so was getting confused with m.2 / nvme / ssd / sata etc

[sonic barn]

Bruh
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/y55tiz/chinas_entire_semiconductor_industry_came_to_a

Looks like pc parts are gonna get insanely expensive again

[wraith sonnet]

Glad I got my 6600 when I did

[full fossil]

me on a cpu + igpu on lowest speced laptop

[wraith sonnet]

Honest suggestion, find a Ryzen 5000 laptop preferably one with the seven designation

A 5700U got me 100 FPS in MGRR

[full fossil]

I will force my college to remained open whole day+nights. And make an empty room as my guest room

[wraith sonnet]

If you're a student you should be able to acquire one cheaper than normal

I made the horrible decision of buying my laptop without my student discount

Granted it may have been a wash up anyways because I got an employee discount instead

[full fossil]

My school management is horrendous and donot oblige to signup any student rewards.

college*

[wraith sonnet]

All you really need to do is verify like Lenovo or Dell or whoever else that you are a student, at least I assume you are in the United States

[sonic barn]

Just buy used

[wraith sonnet]

And have a Pell Grant

[full fossil]

Indian states*

[sonic barn]

I got a x13 thinkpad Ryzen 4650u 16gb for 500 cad back in 2020

Thing was selling for 2500$ cad

Call up banks or finance firms

Ask if they are selling laptops

Or liquidating

Broken or whatever

[full fossil]

dude damn, thanks for tip, I will now scavenge bank systems. They can still upgrade being old.

[sonic barn]

Mine had new ones just broken keyboards

But it's still on warranty

Mine ended back in February

[full fossil]

starting job in bank soon. I will ask if I can buy scrap.

[sonic barn]

They'll give you one most likely as a work laptop

[full fossil]

I need 7700K. I'm not gamer but something that can do CAD and MATLAB

[full fossil]

not allowed to do other work.

[sonic barn]

Bruh

Here there's two banks I know that supply laptops to people

[full fossil]

well have to live with there microsoft edge

just microsoft edge*

[sonic barn]

Granted it's hybrid work

[full fossil]

Well u see licenses expensive, I have to use ||Piracy||

[sonic barn]

There's also one firm that does for only it's call support

[mild elm]

Live on the edge

[full fossil]

yeah that is called PCIE drives

[sonic barn]

I'm talking about the work laptops

Read

Lost cause

[full fossil]

I will die, but not edge, I will login with microsoft ecosystem but not that browser.................

Just kidding edge is now good.

[sonic barn]

I don't know, maybe above this message?

[mild elm]

It’s decent now but chrome is simply better

[full fossil]

me a brave person

[sonic barn]

Chromium sucks chrome sucks

Firefox is the only good one

[full fossil]

earlier now that ublock origin developers support well on edge, it is good.

[mild elm]

What’s wrong with chrome

[sonic barn]

Just like your mother

[full fossil]

chrome with 4Gb ram alptops, which i can possible get

[mild elm]

???

Engrish

[sonic barn]

Those are like 30$ on ebay

[full fossil]

@mild elm see, you live in world where you can get easily 8GB or more memory, and we 3rd world people under your exchange rates.

[mild elm]

I’m saying that your sentence made no sense

Not that you’re lying or something

[next finch]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/1karuu1/saved/Q6hcxr thoughts on my upcoming build ?

[full fossil]

well if you talk in US and USDs I guess they will give me 500$(which will increase to 1000$ since companies scam eachoterhs)

[sonic barn]

You're gonna need more than 800w psu

Probably 1000 is good

[full fossil]

my bank won't allow me for upgrades, for the time it is companies property and not mine.

[next finch]

4090's running fine with 850w ...

[mild elm]

I’d do a 950 to 1000w psu

[next finch]

but ig i can bump it up

[sonic barn]

7700x is 270w

[next finch]

damn

[full fossil]

well one question is your 4090 gettin all the power it needs?

[next finch]

4080*

[mild elm]

I understand what you mean now. It’s just, your first sentence made no sense.

Private

[full fossil]

when we will get motherboard backplates/waterblocks

[sonic barn]

Or it's 170watts. Gamer nexus did a video on it

[full fossil]

They will clearly exceed the 500watt CPU mark withiing 2 gens, or probably now if threadripper/desktop level epyc

[mild elm]

You need 64 gb of ram?

[full fossil]

yes, I need more than 1TB ram for my college reasearch

[sonic barn]

Just don't upgrade and wait longer for your projects. If the bank wants things faster than just ask for an upgrade

[mild elm]

Not talking to you???

[full fossil]

my life is litreally jail time for me. even passing days looks long to me.

[full fossil]

I was being funny.

yes some lenovo with dual xeons, 20+20 cores and 80 threads

[mild elm]

You getting that?

Sheesh

Why 128 gb of ram

[full fossil]

to open lots of tabs

yeah, ram is one dark side of computer industry, it's price never go down.

[sonic barn]

.... Try eBay

[full fossil]

what you mean?

[sonic barn]

You can get 64gb for under 100$

[mild elm]

540 usd for ram

[next finch]

wait for atx 3.0 psu's

[sonic barn]

New

[mild elm]

350 for some fast ram

[full fossil]

secondhand or 2 2-DIMM kits?

[sonic barn]

Why do you need that speed?

Servers can run off 1600mhz

[next finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGHyDuPG1ks&t=155s

[sonic barn]

Stupid

🤓

[mild elm]

Get a lower latency kit

Cl40 is quite slow for such a high end build

[sonic barn]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/115465522247

128gb for 100$

[full fossil]

ddr4 is needed.

[sonic barn]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/165714297152

[dreamy rose]

dot put an M.2 Sata drive in an NVME Slot, doesnt work.

[tacit falcon]

The ssd ribbon connectors, are they universal or do you need to buy a model specific one

[mild elm]

Yes

It’s not must mhz

[full fossil]

welll this is like 128GB DDR4 for 200$

[mild elm]

You want low cas latency (cl)

[dreamy rose]

well that wasn't it

[mild elm]

That’s why 3200cl16 is the same as 3600cl18

[sonic barn]

140$ USD for 128gb ddr4 at that price

[mild elm]

Sounds expensive but it’s good

[sonic barn]

70gbp is 78$ usd

[full fossil]

make it (160+imports)$

[sonic barn]

There's no import fees on small items like that

🤓

[full fossil]

United states

[sonic barn]

Shipping fees are only what you pay

[full fossil]

of India*

[sonic barn]

I order from china all the time, Russia, Belarus, etc... Never paid import fees and I'm in Canada

Or taxes on those purchases

[mild elm]

Just find a middle ground like 5600 cl36

[full fossil]

we got imports here. India ||+ courruptions||

[mild elm]

And please, save some money

[sonic barn]

We got import fees here as well

[mild elm]

Don’t get 128 gb of ram

Nobody needs that

[sonic barn]

But I never had to pay them

[full fossil]

LMG should make videos on Memory (mhz, timing, ranks)

[sonic barn]

Gamer nexus did

[full fossil]

well I guess games most affect on mhz so cl timings are useless

[mild elm]

Cl timings are not useless

[sonic barn]

It's mainly only good for servers that need that speed 24/7 otherwise no one needs that speed

[full fossil]

it does, but either it gets out of price range or amount, some people nowadays just buying 32GB.

[sonic barn]

Like if you load a ton of data in memory for some database off Amazon and then need to make a sale

[mild elm]

Anyway, what are you gonna do with that pc

[full fossil]

XD @full fossil

[sonic barn]

You can do it faster than with some ddr3 kit

[sonic barn]

It's a kid

A fetus

[full fossil]

you? @sonic barn

[sonic barn]

Him

[mild elm]

Coal rock?

[full fossil]

what you are @sonic barn ?

[full fossil]

yes?

[sonic barn]

A white privileged male

[mild elm]

Imma go

Never skimp on ram

[full fossil]

CYA but you need to say something.

[mild elm]

And don’t get 128 gb of ram

That’s just ridiculous

Don’t run 16k

It won’t help you ever

[full fossil]

I need for my AI needs the picture library is gigantic. And my college only let me use HDD not SSDS

[mild elm]

Try 8k

[sonic barn]

That's insanely stupid

[full fossil]

honoured!

[mild elm]

16k will be 20 fps

Less

[sonic barn]

Also if it's ai generated pictures/ generated content it'll require video memory unless threaded on the CPU which is way slower

[mild elm]

Do you happen to have a 16 monitor

[full fossil]

I cannot do college says no to more SSDs

[mild elm]

Oml ur rich

But 128 gb isn’t even worth it for that

[full fossil]

yeah, but I want over all throughput, which you are correct and I thought of that before to reach this conclusion.

[sonic barn]

Even the optane modules?

[mild elm]

Although it is funny so go ahead if you really want to

[full fossil]

• they can use it else where when I leave college

[sonic barn]

Those are good for 3000+ tbw

[mild elm]

Bet

[sonic barn]

There's alternatives to them for like 2x the price of a regular SSD but it lasts around 100x as long

[mild elm]

Dm me when it comes out