public-chat

[graceful burrow]

used to be ten seconds so be happy

[small zephyr]

5minutes felt like 5 hours to me and thats hell

[weak fox]

ngl i felt the same way, because of the pandemic in germany we got locked down and it just took a part of my soul out of me like i just wasnt me after it, day after day turned to weeks turned to months so i just tried getting out of germany because i thought it made me sad, ive noticed the enviorment your in inspires how you feel, think, and do stuff.

[sonic barn]

I'm in Canada and our support sucks for all that

Work or be broke and homeless

[unkempt coral]

Oh wow haha. I missed that part then

[small zephyr]

well i dont think its the lockdown and stuffs fault

[ocean terrace]

Or in americas case, work to still be broke

[weak fox]

its the peoples fault after the lockdown.

[sonic barn]

I hope Powell kills big companies

[small zephyr]

its the fault of how the ppl reacted to it and how they go around and hold mass partys and stuff as soon as theres a bit of leeway

[weak fox]

even my fault

lockdown just makes you mentally insane

[ocean terrace]

I hope my job starts picking up soon or I’m gonna be out on workshare

[small zephyr]

like if one wears his mask in the bus or train where its mandatory and have it under you nose its no wonder ppl get sick

[sonic barn]

That's the other issue however you get EI

I'm a student

[weak fox]

yeah like the u-bahn. everyone just had a blank stare looking into nothingness while riding the train

[sonic barn]

I can get bursaries and loans from gov

[ocean terrace]

Im supposed to run 6 machines every day, for the past month it’s mainly been 3

[small zephyr]

or when ppl basicly kiss your ass while shopping even through they should hold 1,5-2meters distance yeah just live with the consequences then

[sonic barn]

Like 5k a year

[weak fox]

the great depression sequel

[sonic barn]

I work summers @ 14.25 cad for 30hrs

A week

[ocean terrace]

My job paying 20.50/hour 40 hours a week

[sonic barn]

System is fucked up

[weak fox]

people have become corrupt

[small zephyr]

i get like 300bucks to live an month after all bills and stuff are paid

[ocean terrace]

That’s $28 and some change cad

[weak fox]

even in america

[ocean terrace]

Ya don’t say lol

[small zephyr]

im happy my dorm pays the electricty bills tho xD it would be astronomical high for me

[weak fox]

lol

[ocean terrace]

That’s actually cool tho

[weak fox]

thats good. if your happy thats good.

[small zephyr]

🤔 i think my pc is already runing 5 weeks straight without being turned off

[sonic barn]

I'm gonna be able to intern at a local bank this summer though so I'll be getting 18$ cad as junior it role. If my bank is still around

I'm in computer science

[small zephyr]

i should at least stop runing cookie clicker when im on vacation visiting my sister for a week or 2 tho

[sonic barn]

Then in early 2024 I'll be working a programming internship

As per my final semester requirements

[ocean terrace]

That’s not bad

[sonic barn]

Problem is stock market rn

[ocean terrace]

I went right to the factory my dad was at for almost 30 years to start work, I’ve been there since January

[sonic barn]

70% of my money is in indexes

I could take out but it's on margin

[small zephyr]

i dont like stock markets it safer to just go play some black jack or something lol

[sonic barn]

I'm good for max 40% more loss

[small zephyr]

it just needs one tweet of ppl like elon musk and you can be fucked

[weak fox]

i would take a break from the internet for a little time.

[sonic barn]

Margin is 33.3 per 100%

[weak fox]

give me your money and i will double it lmao

[ocean terrace]

Funny you mention Elon, we were making wire for spacex a couple weeks back

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jaS_FZcjI

[sonic barn]

So 3x Lev basically and I'm positive rn as there's puts, bonds and shares in a bunch of tech & resource companies

[small zephyr]

🤨 i dont get why ppl like him and teslas so much teslas are safety hazzards where all your cars funktion can stop cuz you used quick charge to load your car..... due to overheating of the electronics

[stoic iris]

hey can i get a laptop recommendation pls

[ocean terrace]

Yeah, what you gonna be doing with it?

[weak fox]

and it has cameras to keep a good eye over you. i would just get facebook

[sonic barn]

I however get like 13k per year on total from bursaries, work and such but this year is so stressful

[ocean terrace]

Also, budget

[small zephyr]

if you just want an laptop for basicly tasks gte an ibm thinkpad they are indestructable

[ocean terrace]

Best laptop

[sonic barn]

That can run star citizen 360fps

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ my thinkpad t60 is already runing for 15 years

[stoic iris]

basically im gonna be gaming and doing really high performance things that require alot of power like video editing and also graphic designs.

and idk what the budget is in usd

[small zephyr]

and i didnt even needed to replace the cmos battery yet

[ocean terrace]

What’s your budget in your currency

I can convert

[stoic iris]

like $2,500 NZD

[small zephyr]

while the hp whatever convertible from my bother in laws cmos battery died after 1 year

[stoic iris]

i thinks thats like $1,500 usd or something

my only requirement is 1tb ssd

[ocean terrace]

Yeah

[stoic iris]

and also high performance

[ocean terrace]

I can look some up, one moment

[stoic iris]

but mainly i need storage space and performance

[weak fox]

you could get a good pc for that price

[small zephyr]

well 1500 get an gaming laptop or something since work related laptops are mostly like 1000bucks for integrated graphics xD

[weak fox]

you would need a good cpu because video editing and rendering needs a good cpu

[ocean terrace]

I found one for $1450

[weak fox]

ew igpu

[stoic iris]

im looking for a laptop specifically, I'm going to be taking it places

[weak fox]

oh alright

[stoic iris]

but like not plaaces where i need a bunch of battery

[ocean terrace]

Ryzen 7 6800h
16gb ram
3060 gpu
1tb ssd

[stoic iris]

yeah, taking it to friends places and other places and stuff.

[weak fox]

you could just get a powerbank or plug it in

[small zephyr]

yeah but gaming devices got good cpus and rock good graphic cards instead of intel iris xe

[stoic iris]

yeah but i dont need battery

im just gonna be moving it around

[stoic iris]

yeah basically what im looking for

[weak fox]

ye

[small zephyr]

nowadays you find stupid wall plugs everywhere

[ocean terrace]

It’s the asus rog r7

[weak fox]

looks good

[stoic iris]

i currently have a ROG zephyrus g14, but i use it for school and shit and they block a lot of my stuff i do personally

[small zephyr]

heck i even spoted some wallplugs in public toilets

[stoic iris]

oo thanks

[ocean terrace]

Np

[weak fox]

gn you guys

[stoic iris]

yeah, are there any others?

[stoic iris]

good night

[small zephyr]

🤔 would be rude to game while taking an dumb in an public toilet tho xD

[weak fox]

ears are bleeding out from listening to hardcore music

[stoic iris]

ty

[small zephyr]

i only hear vocaloid songs atm

[stoic iris]

ty

[weak fox]

drift phonk

and skrillex

[small zephyr]

i just love the songs from hatsune miku project diva games

[weak fox]

but thats my hype playlist for montages or just super hype songs

[stoic iris]

just saying this again, i need a fairly high performance laptop for gaming and graphic designs and video editing and the only specific requirement is 1tb ssd

[small zephyr]

i only play dubstep and electro while playing cod

[stoic iris]

budget like $2,250 usd or someth

[small zephyr]

well as long you dont get an alienware 2,2k usd get you realy good stuff

[weak fox]

nzd 2500 to usd is 1436.12

[stoic iris]

yeah thats what i mean

[weak fox]

the one he sent you is good

[stoic iris]

roughly that price, not 2250 nzd thats me being stupid

[stoic iris]

yah it is but are there any other options or

[weak fox]

there are but im not the type to give pc advice im the type to intake advice

[stoic iris]

ah fair enough

[small zephyr]

how bout an strix g17 it got na r9 600hx and an 3070ti

its around 2,3€

so in usd is prob like 2,2k hardware is somehow always cheaper in the us

[weak fox]

just wait here someone will help you soon. you could also msg in #build-a-pc to make it faster

[stoic iris]

thats uh too much, i mistyped price

[valid siren]

and a MUX switch, too. That makes it so that it's actually useful as a laptop

[weak fox]

you could get a laptop with a crappy igpu then plug in a gpu into it to get it cheaper, but you will have a laptop with a gpu hanging out of it, you could tape it to the back of the laptop screen

[small zephyr]

well but then it would need to be an intel based laptop since amd aint got thunderbold

[weak fox]

true

[valid siren]

really hoping ryzen 7000 ends up having USB4 for laptops, at least

[stoic iris]

there was a specific laptop i saw, it was msi but i cant remeber the exact details i was thinking of getting that then just removing the ssd and upgrading it

[small zephyr]

acer nitro 5 in the ryzen 7 5800h with an 3070 140€ which should be prob 1200-1500usd

[weak fox]

gn

[small zephyr]

n8

[stoic iris]

thats a pretty good price

[small zephyr]

and you can get gigabyte g5 with an i5 and an 3050ti for like 700bucks

[stoic iris]

i was thinking this

wait its not sending

we cant send pics

its msi bravo and its got good specs, i was just thinking i could upgrade the ssd

[small zephyr]

somehow in laptops larger ssds take like 5times the amount of price they usulay costs so mostly its better in general to buy the laptop and an bigger ssd after market

[stoic iris]

yeah

[small zephyr]

i bet you pay like 600bucks for alienware 2tb or something

[stoic iris]

ill just get one with a worse ssd and then just get a better ssd

[valid siren]

if you're in the us, p31 time

[small zephyr]

😂 i just tested the alieware ssd price from 512gb ssd to 2 tb is 400€

2tb pcie 3.0 nvme ssd is like 140bucks

and 1tb ssds are under 100bucks

[keen vapor]

Does anyone use parsec?

[small zephyr]

a margin the 4tb ssd update on the alienware x14 is just a cheap measly 1000bucks

[keen vapor]

I'm trying it but it looks like absolute shit

can't paste images...

[valid siren]

can get a p41 for less than that

[small zephyr]

mkay the maxed x17 from alienware is like 6k and i bet they force like 1k worth of extra waranty and support on it lmao

[valid siren]

dell moment

[small zephyr]

you can prob build an ryzen 9 5950x build with dual 3090tis in it

[valid siren]

or one 3090ti which will get the same (and probably more consistent) performance

[ocean terrace]

It’s not even worth putting dual gpus in nowadays is it?

[valid siren]

For gaming, no.

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ just flexing at that point

[valid siren]

for things like blender, it can be

[ocean terrace]

i didnt think dual gpus were even supported anymore, thats why i ask

[graceful burrow]

depends on the program

[valid siren]

It's not

As in NVIDIA is no longer actively developing it

[ocean terrace]

ahh, i see

[manic torrent]

the short version is no

[lucid echo]

SLI in gaming, no. For CUDA and other workstation tasks? Definitely still are

[valid siren]

Blender can scale with multiple processors just fine, as can many other programs. But it's not like SLI where there was a marketed feature that developers implemented

is NVLink dead?

[manic torrent]

for SLI it is

[lucid echo]

And even then it was never truly Nvlink

[median idol]

Based on the looks of it from the AIB cards for the 4090, it seems so

[manic torrent]

... they announced that ages ago.

[lucid echo]

Quadro's still have it

[manic torrent]

nvlink is a datacenter tech.

[slim yacht]

i like how intel boys are heavily defending their 12th gen chip despite ryzen 5800x3D and its 7000 series lineup being superior

even after given benchmarks that is

[valid siren]

Issue is price

[slim yacht]

yeah definitely, but to say 12th gen is still better than amd in anything else is uh.......

[lucid echo]

13th gen will take the crown, amd fanboys will cope, rinse and repeat with the 7kX3D chips later on

[valid siren]

idk man seems like a strawman to me

[slim yacht]

i dont want a chip i cant cool with ordinary heatsink definitely

[valid siren]

I think you're underestimating the ak620, and overestimating what a stock 12900k pulls

[slim yacht]

amd is already hot, 13th gen is gonna be worse

[slim yacht]

im talking 13th gen here instead of 12th

[valid siren]

But yes the 12900K is ridiculous power draw-wise

[valid siren]

We will see

[lucid echo]

Did you even watch the reviews? 7000 series is hot af

[valid siren]

The 7000 series will yoink as much thermal headroom as you can give it

[slim yacht]

like i said, the 7000 series is already bad, what more to say 13th lol

[valid siren]

it's why there's so much discrepancy between benchmarks

[slim yacht]

although from gamersnexus the thermal is actually fine
ltt ones are alittle bit hotter

[small zephyr]

🤨 yeah okay an i9 12900ks with an 3090ti with expensive mobo and 4x 16gb ram and 1200w psu and an 4k display is still like 1 3090ti cheaper as an maxed out alienware

[valid siren]

and why the 7950X did better on GN's than on Linus'; cooling capacity of a proper 360mm AIO versus an NH-D15 which, knowing noctua, probably costs just as much

[small zephyr]

i dunno if you want an aircooler withe the capabilitys of an 360 aio you wil prob more as the aio anyways

[slim yacht]

this isnt even talking 13900k leaks with 350-450w fully unlocked
imagine how youre gonna cool that one

if you think amd is bad already that is

[valid siren]

there isn't an air cooler with the capabilities of an AIO, and the NH-D15 is no different

[valid siren]

12900K already matches that

[small zephyr]

to be true fuck intel get amd its cheaper 🤷‍♂️ in real life you dont even need an i9 mostly an i7 or even i5 is enough

[ocean terrace]

a hope and a prayer

[valid siren]

fully unlocked? my brother in christ the 12900KS ends up drawing 450

[slim yacht]

not really, the leaks shows them thermal throttling instead of sustaining
12900k still sustains performance while staying away from throttling

[lucid echo]

fuck intel get amd its cheaper

[tribal compass]

Ordered the 512 steamdeck today!

[lucid echo]

As if they don't jack up the price as soon as they're on top, just like any other company

[small zephyr]

but amd is better to cool since they have better efficiency as intel

[valid siren]

I really don't think Intel is going to intentionally nuke their own thermal design by somehow making the chip hotter with the same power draw

[median idol]

Intel vs AMD turf war

[lucid echo]

It's always the same

[slim yacht]

we'd have to see tomorrow iirc?
tomorrow is the official release yes?

[tribal compass]

We should be happy and is even competing because imagine prices if intel had a monopoly

[lucid echo]

I've been in this long enough to see the same exact conversations over and over

[valid siren]

We can talk about leaks based off of people trying to cool engineering samples with underpowered air coolers all we want, but there's nothing official yet

[slim yacht]

amd is getting hotter, intel is already hot from the get go

now 95c is fine lol

idk how did they think thats fine

[lucid echo]

I too saw the GN thumbnail and based my entire opinion on that

[small zephyr]

ryzen 9 5950x tdp 105w i9 12990k 125-241 depending if k or kf chip

[lucid echo]

Every. Single. Generation. It never stops.

[full fossil]

I need help with my Razer Kraken kitty edition headphones… My microphone works on synapses 3 but everything else on windows 10 doesn’t pick up the microphone it sounds loud and quiet at the same time, I tested it out on my PS5 and it sounds perfect but whenever I use the microphone on my computer nobody can hear my voice and it sounds like I’m really far away

[valid siren]

Both are multi-billion dollar fortune 500 companies with a legal obligation to maximize profits, except that now there's actual competition between them. I think we should be thankful for that fact instead of naively believing that one company cares about you more than another

[slim yacht]

lower power draw =/= thermal output

at least not that simple

5800x are harder to cool than 5900x mind you

[valid siren]

On the same die, it kind of is

[small zephyr]

its prob just razer synapse being a dick again my nari ultimate is misbehaving all the time too

[full fossil]

[small zephyr]

well synapse still works better as icue for me tho

[valid siren]

Yes, because of the layout of the chiplets. Intel CPUs are monolithic.

[lucid echo]

Have you ever heard of conservation of energy

[slim yacht]

of course i do
which is why i said not that simple

[dawn crown]

Apparently upgrading my Windows XP machine to SP2 can't be done by just running an .exe or similar. I have to actually burn an .iso to a disc.

Good thing I have those.

[valid siren]

use the unofficial service pack 4

[small zephyr]

higher energy cunsomtion produces more heat

[full fossil]

But I turned off Razer synapses and it still doesn’t work on discord

[lucid echo]

Commodity fetishism doing its job a little too well here

[small zephyr]

okay maybe its discord being a dick again

[valid siren]

You can push heat and you can change heat, but that shit's not going anywhere
- Sir Isaac Newton or someone idk

[full fossil]

[small zephyr]

when i go to voice with friends on discord i always need to disconect and reconnect all the time or i wound hear my friends

[dawn crown]

I want to keep things stable... is SP4 stable?

[small zephyr]

discord maybe buggy af but still worlds above teamspeak lmao

[slim yacht]

well tldr if you want anything i9 / r9 then thats 360mm aio minimum for you

[valid siren]

ig it doesn't matter too much if you're not networking.

If you are, with hardware that old you should seriously consider linux

[full fossil]

But I tested out my microphone on the settings on windows 10 and it sounds really bad @small zephyr

[small zephyr]

well if you can afford em you should consider an custom loop tho

[full fossil]

Like far away

[valid siren]

As the mics built into headphones often are, unfortunately

[small zephyr]

cant you fine tune it in synapse

[lucid echo]

Never do custom loops. I speak from experience

[slim yacht]

yeah why not
its fine to go whichever you feel comfortable with

[full fossil]

It’s 100% on synapses

[dawn crown]

I need XP for the project I wanna do, but I don't know yet if I'll connect it to the internet.

[small zephyr]

yeah but custom loop if you get an fancy monoblock looks mostly more badass

[lucid echo]

It's a massive waste of money

[valid siren]

XP with networking is sketchy no matter how you put it. SP4 at least introduces support for some stuff

[slim yacht]

honestly id just slap 360mm aio and forget it
dont have to do routine maintenance that comes with custom loop

[small zephyr]

well i mostly dont like most gpu plates tho

[dawn crown]

IF I use it online it would only be online as needed, like to download drivers instead of what I'm doing now, downloading them to my phone and then transferring them to the computer with a USB stick.

[small zephyr]

🤔 the part where the die is placed looks good but everything else where you see the bare pcb looks bad

[lucid echo]

Custom watercooling is literally never "worth" it. You only do it for looks and for the hobby itself

[valid siren]

cnc an aluminium backplate, then

cheaper than a monoblock

[full fossil]

I want to get an anime themed GPU

[small zephyr]

motherboard pcb looks good but gpu pcb's just look messy af

[small zephyr]

move to china

[full fossil]

I saw them online for sale

[small zephyr]

they have the maxsun i craft 3000 gpus

[valid siren]

https://www.newegg.com/yeston-rx6800-16gd6-ya/p/27N-0042-000B8?

[small zephyr]

never found em online only news of em

[median idol]

Even as someone who does custom loops, this TBH. I tell people this all the time if you want a CLC system, you better be prepared for doing maintenance work other than that..... Get either like a LF II AIO or a Noctua cooler or something

[full fossil]

https://www.newegg.com/yeston-rx6800-16gd6-ya/p/27N-0042-000B8?

[small zephyr]

if they make fucking news outside china for them why dont sell em outside china......

[full fossil]

They do sell them

[valid siren]

noctua = cringe.
This post was made by the AK620 gang

[full fossil]

You just have to look

[small zephyr]

yeah overpriced af if you consider shiping customs etc

[full fossil]

But at least you’ll have the sickest looking GPU in your town

[lucid echo]

Custom looper here too, can confirm. I could afford a 4090 with all the hidden costs of CWC

[valid siren]

Weebs will pay for anything that has a scantily clad woman with spaghetti hair and unnaturally large eyes and a katana on it

[full fossil]

Lmao 🤣

[small zephyr]

http://www.maxsun.com.cn/2022/0506/5711.html

😭 i want one

i always find dead aliexpress links

[full fossil]

I found one…

[full fossil]

US $624.76 40％ Off | MAXSUN New GeForce RTX 3070 iCraft OC 8G Special Edition Graphics Card GDDR6 Game Card 256bit DP*3 HDMI2.1-compatible NVIDIA GPU
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m06yl9I

[cloud ivy]

when can we expect new ryzen and motherboards on amazon ?

[small zephyr]

🤨 mkay aliexpress yeah rtx 3070m for 66bucks

[full fossil]

lmao 🤣

[small zephyr]

prob no scam

[ocean terrace]

sounds legit

[small zephyr]

region lock

[full fossil]

$624

[tepid bolt]

There's this PC case that displays a hologram of an anime girl and it's 10k usd msrp

[full fossil]

Region lock?

[valid siren]

🗿

[small zephyr]

not available in your region

[full fossil]

I know…

[full fossil]

you should get Nord VPN, wait are they still a LTT Sponsor?

[small zephyr]

still wont let you buy and ship it to you an vpn wont change no shiping to your region

[tepid bolt]

Real OGs remember tunnelbear vpn

[small zephyr]

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004611707938.html?_randl_currency=EUR&_randl_shipto=DE&src=google&aff_fcid=8d11b79b7e6e48d3a92b61339b1ecf91-1664253599312-06988-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=8d11b79b7e6e48d3a92b61339b1ecf91-1664253599312-06988-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=138d90ef54754dd19e6d0b15f3e645fc&afSmartRedirect=y i found one....

1200€ for an 3070 no way in hell lmao

[full fossil]

That’s $1156.48

[tepid bolt]

Get the yeston 6800xt

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/yeston-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx6800xt/p/27N-0042-000C8

[small zephyr]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/B450M Steel Legend(M1)_pink.png i need that motherboard lmao

[full fossil]

Can you send the link to buy it? Please

[small zephyr]

i only find supicios indonesian ones

[full fossil]

dm me it please

[elfin python]

is a computer a good room heater

[midnight bear]

yes

i had to buy a fan for my room bc it got too hot lmao

[elfin python]

mine crypto and heat at the same time

save money on heating and earn money

[midnight bear]

😎

[elfin python]

unfortunately i live in a tropical country

😭

[midnight bear]

F

[elfin python]

but it does get cold when it rains a lot

[midnight bear]

I live in a place where one day its summer the next its snowing, and the next its a huge rainstorm

so inconsistent

[mental zodiac]

Chromebooks have lowercase keycaps as opposed to other laptops' keycaps. You cannot unsee it.

[dawn crown]

I tried connecting my XP machine to the internet just to check for updates, while I can get google.com to load so it is online, the programs like GeForce Experience or Windows Update claim there is no internet.

[wintry dagger]

ltt waterbottle is way cooler than I expected because normally the product images always look better than the actual product, but its actually the other way around

only complaint is that its not dishwasher safe

[wind wind]

Anyone here awake

[valid siren]

nah mate I'm asleep

[wind wind]

Can we chat

Im having a panic attack and I’m driving home from work. I pulled over but when I have these talking to someone helps them go away. Sorry for bothering you

[wintry dagger]

im ur sleep paralysis demon

[wintry dagger]

why are you having a panic attack

[wind wind]

Idk man. I’ve been having them intermittently since 8th grade. I’m 29 now

It suck’s

[full fossil]

Im sorry to hear

[wind wind]

Thanks. I’ve learned talking to people gets my mind off it and all my friends are asleep, No pressure to talk though

[wintry dagger]

yk a fight is fucking amazing when the theme song starts playing

[karmic wedge]

the best 7000 series AMD APU is the 5800X3D

[wind wind]

Did anyone watch the new Rick and morty

[tawny thicket]

ah that's out need to go watch

[wintry dagger]

thats not 7000 series

thats 5000 series

[karmic wedge]

exactly

[wind wind]

Idk if I want to get the ddr5 upgrade. I just bought a 5800x early this year

Will the upgrade be massive?

[wintry dagger]

oh wait does the 7000 series not have an igpu?

[wind wind]

No

[wintry dagger]

wierd

[karmic wedge]

nah it's got some RDNA2 iGPU built in

[wind wind]

Oh really

[karmic wedge]

But according to benchmark 5800X3D actually has faster performance in games than the 7000 lineup

3D v-cache coming in clutch
If only it didn't cost nearly NZD$800

[serene stone]

so that means 7800x3D will be more awesome?

kek

[wind wind]

What about ddr5 tho

[cloud ivy]

Not everyone just games on their machine

[karmic wedge]

for sure

[serene stone]

I think 13900KS will go up against the 7800x3D.

6 jiggawatts clock speed

[wind wind]

You can’t oc the 3d right

[cloud ivy]

5800X3D does not have integrated graphics

[wind wind]

How thick is the actual cpu chip ?

[tawny thicket]

Not very

[wind wind]

Blows my mind how much power and work such a tiny thing can do

[karmic wedge]

And you aren't bringing along your own dedicated graphics card?

[cloud ivy]

you said APU

[wind wind]

So If your mobo runs off 12v that’s a lot of amps juicing thru your oc

[wintry dagger]

if I didnt need more than 8 cores I'd get one but even my 12 on my 3900x is barely enough

im the only person who actually uses 12 cores while gaming lmao

[cloud ivy]

7950x is a great deal tbh

[wind wind]

Why ? Bc you have a igpu?

[wintry dagger]

im just gonna get a 5950x when they drop

[upbeat ridge]

This

[cloud ivy]

hopefully they do

[upbeat ridge]

Or 5900X

Or 5800X, or whatever

[vapid smelt]

but why

[wintry dagger]

I need more than 12 cores

beamng is a cpu and memory hog

[cloud ivy]

because am5 adoption is not cheap

[wintry dagger]

because I'd rather not buy a new mobo, and ram along with a new cpu

[cloud ivy]

+1

[vapid smelt]

why not the r7 5800x3d

[valid siren]

kinda doubt beamng is going to scale with cores that far

[wintry dagger]

.

[cloud ivy]

No igpu is not a good option in 2022

[wintry dagger]

it stuggles on my 12

[valid siren]

more to do with the speed of the cores rather than the number of them

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vytssL only $750 😛

[valid siren]

only™️

[wintry dagger]

"only" I can get a 5950x for 450

[median idol]

Yeah I'm not a fan of early adoption. I prefer to wait till it's more widespread TBH

[valid siren]

for a six-core smh

[wintry dagger]

when a new gen comes out I buy the prev gen

[valid siren]

Good chip, but the value proposition is rough there

[vapid smelt]

you dont need more then 6/8 cores for gaming

[wintry dagger]

much cheaper

[cloud ivy]

awesome wow

[wintry dagger]

they havent updated the requirements since the 970 was the hottest gpu around

[cloud ivy]

waiting for the AM5 mb price release

[valid siren]

because that's when the game came out

[wintry dagger]

no the game came out in 2013

they update it every so often

[valid siren]

cool, still doubt it's going to scale beyond 4-6 cores

[wintry dagger]

plus they have new texures, new lighting, new pbr materials, better physics, and basically way better graphically

[wintry dagger]

with ai cars it does tbh

[valid siren]

ok that makes sense then

[wintry dagger]

yeah I like to run at 10 ai cars but it hits my cpu hard my cpu is pegged at 100% and so is my ram

but they released a new update fixing the ai cars and stuff last week and I havent played the new one

[vapid smelt]

i would still get a 5800x3d over a 5950x

[valid siren]

cache money

[wintry dagger]

yeah because it varies between use cases

also I need a new cpu anyways because my gpu never goes above 45% in any game except for fh5

[valid siren]

it's a 2013 game which will run on iGPUs

so that's kind of expected

oh fh5

what resolution is your monitor?

[wintry dagger]

1080p

[valid siren]

what GPU?

[wintry dagger]

165hz

[wintry dagger]

3070

[valid siren]

well there's your problem.

I'd invest in a higher resolution monitor before an upgrade to your already high end CPU

[wintry dagger]

the main reason is bc a2 and b2 memory slots are wierd and cause the pc to force reboot

[cloud ivy]

100 %

[valid siren]

if it's a CPU issue your 3900X has a three-year warranty from AMD

[cloud ivy]

after upgrading to 4k@144 I cant go back now

absolute bliss

[vapid smelt]

imagine getting a R9 for gaming

[valid siren]

also it's a 3070, 1080p not taking advantage of what it's able to do is nothing unexpected

Less pixels to render means less work for the GPU

[median idol]

Which 4K144 monitor did you get?

[cloud ivy]

LG ultragear27GN950

[wintry dagger]

I got it used

[cloud ivy]

there is a better one but that is not available in my country , LG 27GP950-B if anyone wondering

[median idol]

Ayyy we have the same monitor

[wintry dagger]

when was it released?

[valid siren]

July 2019

[cloud ivy]

[wintry dagger]

oh shit I can maybe get a replacement

idk the serial number though bc it came without a box

jesus roblox has become way bigger than I thought

LMAO ROBLOX RUNS AT 30FPS ON A 3070

https://web.roblox.com/games/7208091524/Beyond-the-Dark-Vistech-Showcase

I mean they said it was used for benchmarks so ig

[cloud ivy]

[wintry dagger]

my gpu does go to 100% utilization and apparently it brings a 3090 ti to 60fps on 1080p

[cloud ivy]

jesust

[wintry dagger]

yeah

apparently it uses ray tracing

[cloud ivy]

cant wait for portal 2 with ray tracing

[upbeat ridge]

I left my laptop at home…

It’s a 2 hour return trip

[wintry dagger]

imagine

[upbeat ridge]

We’re getting new window frames so that’s my excuse

So I took everything that doesn’t like water out of my room (other than my bed and me)

[wintry dagger]

nice! I want a new window since mine is only single pane... and that isnt ideal when its 115 outside

[dusky patrol]

Yo shop lttstore.com lol

[wintry dagger]

my mom cant figure out what design she wants so I cant

[upbeat ridge]

Whut we have triple by default

[wintry dagger]

well our house is built in the 70s

my grandpa built it in his 20s and died in it so

[upbeat ridge]

It expensive tho so I’ll stick with my McDonald’s water bottle that was free

[wintry dagger]

we're the second owners

[upbeat ridge]

Built in the 50s✌🏻

[wintry dagger]

wtf do you live in mt everest??

[dusky patrol]

I like the fact it's used for hot liquids too

[upbeat ridge]

No

Netherlands

[wintry dagger]

either you live in a 50s mansion or its just not standard in the us

[upbeat ridge]

But tbf the triple glass was installed in 04?

[wintry dagger]

OH that makes alot of sense

ours are original

[upbeat ridge]

But now the wood is going dead

[ivory wolf]

Rip

[upbeat ridge]

So we’re getting some sort of plastic

[wintry dagger]

nice just dont get white.. white sucks ass

white looks dirty after 2 days

[ivory wolf]

We moved in to our current house not even a year ago

[wintry dagger]

ours is brown

[wintry dagger]

oh I also pressure wash it every month too

[upbeat ridge]

We won’t

[ivory wolf]

Something got deleted

I saw it

[wintry dagger]

?

what got deleted?

[ivory wolf]

A message

[upbeat ridge]

Things that do annoy me about this McDonald’s water bottle is the fact that the graphic cuts off

[wintry dagger]

I thought the bot would delete it LMAO I had to delete it myself

im not gonna say balls again since thats not censored

[ivory wolf]

My house will be put through the most it's ever been this week

[wintry dagger]

https://lttstore.com

[ivory wolf]

Can the LTT water bottle get me through a hurricane

[wintry dagger]

mine arrived today its really nice the only thing that I absolutely hate is the fact that you cant throw it in the dishwasher

[ivory wolf]

I didn't ask that

[wintry dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-anyway-gif-19022587

[ivory wolf]

[dusky patrol]

Or the fridge lol

[upbeat ridge]

cries in europe

[ivory wolf]

Skill issue

[wintry dagger]

WAIT I could get free stickers????

[upbeat ridge]

Yes

[dusky patrol]

20 bucks for shipping? That seems a little high for a water bottle

[wintry dagger]

I got the 32oz and it was 80 bucks for 2 of them first one was the "hero" color and the second is the blue and black one

[wintry dagger]

its also across the pond

for intl shipping thats nothing tbh

[dusky patrol]

@wintry dagger I'm in canada

[wintry dagger]

mine was 10 and I live in cali

[dusky patrol]

@wintry dagger also I have issues with measurements lol

[wintry dagger]

or 13.65 cad

[dusky patrol]

I'd have to throw more milk in my hot chocolate then my usual

[wintry dagger]

I cant imagine you being farther away than me

[dusky patrol]

So it's like do I double the amount triple ect lol

[desert dagger]

think you are confusing freezer with fridge

[wintry dagger]

no mine says freezer and fridge

[desert dagger]

wat

[wintry dagger]

on the ticket thing inside

I only bought 2 for me and my dad bc we're doing a it class together

techy

[desert dagger]

I believe you, Think I tossed that somewhere, the box say freezer though so went with that :P

[wintry dagger]

legit only water bottle box I will keep lmao

[lucid echo]

That is indeed how gas insulated bottles work

[wintry dagger]

oh its insulated by gas?

I thought it was just styrofoam with cotton or something

[lucid echo]

It’s usually either a vacuum or some noble gas

The heat from dishwashers can break the seal at the bottom of the bottle

[wintry dagger]

its still inconvenient

im not gonna complain tho

[lucid echo]

It’s a tradeoff. Ice can last for days

[wintry dagger]

a bit overpriced, sure but its all metal and feels nice while having amazing quality

[lucid echo]

Just don’t put non-water in it and a regular rinse is all you need to do

[wintry dagger]

I was gonna use it for coffee and juices...

im assuming I cant chuck that into it

[lucid echo]

You can, but it’s made for water. It’s just gonna be harder to clean. If you stick with water, the non-dishwashable aspect isn’t really an issue

[lucid echo]

Any namebrand vacuum insulated bottle is gonna be upwards of $30

[wintry dagger]

OMG THE BIG BOI AND THE SMALL ONE ARE THE SAME PRICEEeeeeeeeeee

[lucid echo]

Yep, I love the 40oz

[wintry dagger]

I should have gotten the big boi

I thought the big one was more expensive

[lucid echo]

It doesn’t fit in cup holders, but other than that, far superior

[lucid echo]

The 64oz is more expensive

But the 24 and 40 are the same

[wintry dagger]

oh that really is a bummer

[wintry dagger]

no? here its 29.99 for the 64 and 29.99 for the 21

[lucid echo]

Oh weird

I coulda sworn they were different & that’s why it’s a separate page, nvm

[lucid echo]

IIRC Linus talked on wan show about non-water usage. He said you shouldn’t do it, only because it’s a pain to keep clean, not because it’ll do damage

[wintry dagger]

ah nvm then

[lucid echo]

Yeah I already had the pages up lol

[wintry dagger]

"is not designed for long term storage of liquids" ill probably forget water in there for 6 months because I lost it and then find it again

the 21oz also has more colors

I can tell madison works there https://www.lttstore.com/collections/accessories/products/sad-linus-desk-pad

that is such a madison product I stg

[gaunt hawk]

When will radeon 7000 be released

?

[cloud ivy]

nov

[gaunt hawk]

Thanks

[small zephyr]

ooof i finaly found an cheap usb argb controller lol

i hate to only have 12v rgb header on my mother board

[wanton glade]

💀

[small zephyr]

🤔 just some plain old cooler master rgb controller thingy

[wanton glade]

noice

[small zephyr]

and it seems to be supported by signal rgb

[wanton glade]

buy an argb mobo next time lmao

[small zephyr]

🤔 dumb question but can i use an 4pole rgb cable to conect 2 3 poles? or is the wiring inside diferent as well

[small zephyr]

i brought the cheapest still reasunable motherboard

[valid siren]

no

[small zephyr]

and i tought it had it since it claims msi mystic light and shit but its only single color 12v

stupid msi b450m pro vdh max

[wanton glade]

oh ok

[small zephyr]

i though all b450 motherboards habe have 5v rgb

[valid siren]

4-pin RGB runs on a different voltage to 3 pin ARGB. You really don't want to send 12V to 5V devices

[small zephyr]

🤔 yeah tought so oof i hope theres an extra 3 pol to 3 pol cable in either the controller or the fans

[valid siren]

Compatible with the same software though

[valid siren]

like a splitter or an extension cord? because if it's an extension you can use just regular breadboard jumper cable

[small zephyr]

if i go rainbow puke i wanna sync it with my gpu rgb

i have for my old rgb strips an 4 pole splitter so i could use 3 strips

but some of the led in the stribs basicly died well not realy but like 3-4 per strip always glowed red instead of the colers i set em to be

its such a hassle to buy an single 3 pol to pol cable lmao i swear saphire couldnt they just include it....

[polar fern]

I have a bad feeling about this hurricane down in Florida. That part of the coast hasn’t taken a direct landfall from a hurricane in a very long time

[wanton glade]

sup transitbiker how you doin bro

[wanton glade]

dang fr ?

[slim yacht]

borgor

[manic torrent]

I might do my RGB tonight - entire room RGB sync

[manic torrent]

and is completely different!

[wind wind]

Hurricane Ian about to fucc

Anyone living in Florida don’t try and ride anything out

[valid siren]

God is very angry that florida continues to exist

[small zephyr]

seems like no one likes florida

in my opinion texas is worse tho

[polar fern]

I’m ok.

Yeah don’t be a hero. Hurricanes are not to be toyed with.

Especially on barrier islands & low laying coasts.

Shima, that you?

[small zephyr]

im gonna go full pink withn rainbow puke

pink is the manliest colour there is

[polar fern]

Pink is cool.

[small zephyr]

weirdly enough the only pink case i found was from aerocool for 40bucks and 60 with rgb fans

[polar fern]

🤣

[small zephyr]

i saved the 20 bucks and ordered 5 uphere argb fans for 19bucks

paired with pink/light blue cables

and since my stupid mobo only got 12v rgb and calls it ARGB i got myself an cooler master argb controller small

[polar fern]

It’s funny both of my computers are basically black

[small zephyr]

7fans in an matx case seems sturdy

i hope theese fans have enough presure for my radiator

[polar fern]

David Bowie and Freddie Mercury enter the chat

[small zephyr]

🤔 if i have an pink mesh and rgb fans it would be a waste to put black fans on it

well i hope it will fit 2 3,5 inch hdds and 2 2,5 drives

[valid siren]

uphere ones are spinny LED strips. Wouldn't rely on them for performance figures.

[small zephyr]

well its an 240mm aio for an ryzen 5 1600af so yeah that already is overkill

[static stag]

Didn't dennis get the UpHere fans and they died in like a matter of weeks?

[valid siren]

el cheapo™️ sleeve bearing fans. Par for the course.

It's the risk you take. I would have invested in a non-group regulated PSU first though

[static stag]

buy once cry once imo

[small zephyr]

https://www.amazon.de/upHere-Gehäuselüfter-Lüfter-Packung-PF1207-5/dp/B07VTPDKC7 🤷‍♂️ i paid 40bucks for my case i aint gonna get 200bucks worth of corsair or lian li fans lmao

[valid siren]

corsair and lian li fans cost way too much anyway

especially corsair

[small zephyr]

well the unifans infity look fucking awesome tho

[valid siren]

p12 a-rgbs or enermax hf120s are reasonable options

[static stag]

Then I guess you wanna buy fans repeatedly ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[valid siren]

Water under the bridge

[small zephyr]

doesnt matter if they will be replaced somewhere i gonna change the whole build sometime in the future

and i go most likely o11 with the uni fans

[valid siren]

harvest the rgb fan from your psu when you replace it

[small zephyr]

nah its an crappy loud 12v rgb fan

[static stag]

https://tenor.com/view/daring-today-are-we-spongebob-squidward-gif-22508233

[valid siren]

on a crappy loud 12V 13V PSU

...ok I'll stop

[small zephyr]

well 43€ thermaltake rgb psu what do you expect? xD

[valid siren]

To actually pass the ATX spec, for starters

[small zephyr]

well till now exepct from the noise lvl i never had problems with my 5500xt

[wintry dagger]

I’d go for the mini tbh

I have the mini and it has the same features and can fit the same amount of stuff while being like half of the size

[small zephyr]

Nah don't wanna pay the SFX premium for the psu

[wintry dagger]

It fits atx

[upbeat ridge]

McServer

[small zephyr]

Nope

[upbeat ridge]

/ networking

[wintry dagger]

Yeah it does

[small zephyr]

PSU on the mini is sfx

[wintry dagger]

Just a sec lemme get a link

[small zephyr]

Mainboard ATX yes but PSU sfx

[wintry dagger]

You take out the bottom drive bays and put the psu in there for atx

I may have been using a atx psu for a period of time

[small zephyr]

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-mini/?cn-reloaded=1

Sfx or sfx l

And I need the drives space for drives

[wintry dagger]

It can fit atx

[wintry dagger]

It’s only hdd bays the ssds go onto the side panel slot thingy

It has the der baur thing

[wintry dagger]

Oh also you can put the drive bays where the sfx psu would be

Refer to this picture

[small zephyr]

I have 2 3,5 and 2 2,5 drives

And I gonna keep it that way

I only need one m.2 but the rest gets throw on mechanical drives

[wintry dagger]

You can still fit those into the drive bays all you’d do it just swap it to where the sfx psu would go

[alpine gale]

That's the O11 Air Mini; the O11 Dynamic Mini appears to only support SFX and SFX-L PSU's... unless Lian Li's site is wrong. 😄 I'm partly paying attention because The O11 Air Mini is on my shortlist of cases for my new build.

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-air-mini/
PSU SUPPORT ATX (Max. 200 mm)

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-mini/
PSU SFX/ SFX-L

[wintry dagger]

The site is wrong idk why but you def can fit one in there because the air mini and the mini are the exact same things except for the front mesh

[small zephyr]

If I get an o11 I wanna put figures as deko in it so mesh is bad

[wintry dagger]

Yeah idk why dumbass over here is saying that you can’t because I literally used an atx psu in my mini

I only switched to a sfx psu bevause my old one died

More room for cable management

[small zephyr]

Duh why am I a dumbass when I read the supported PSU list on the case?

[wintry dagger]

The site is wrong

[alpine gale]

Let's take 'er down about 5-10% there with the rudeness level. I was merely going off the manufacturer's website, so I appreciate being informed that the site may be incorrect. Just don't want myself or anyone else to end up buying a case that won't fit their PSU, or missing out on a case that would fit their PSU.

[small zephyr]

If it say sfx and sfx l it is.

[wintry dagger]

Do you really want me to show you a picture

Atx psu

[small zephyr]

Don't need to but if the manufacturer says sfx and sfx l why should I risk it if someone says otherwise?

[wintry dagger]

The manufacturer also says that the same chassis does

They contradict themselves

The air and the mini are literally the same the only difference is that the air comes with a mesh front panel instead of glass

The air and the mini are built on the same assembly line

[small zephyr]

maybe but why does it make me a dumbass? just because read the spec lists for psu and stuff and the o11 dynamic mini and the and the o11 air mini are not the same size

[wintry dagger]

🤦‍♂️

Idc anymore

Ur such a troll

[small zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5887bvDMvS8

https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2021/09/pvs21_026_lianlio11dminivsairflowmini_v3.00_04_26_02.still011-100902184-large.jpg?auto=webp&auto=webp&quality=85,70 you can literally see the size difference

[wintry dagger]

They still both fit atx

[small zephyr]

no, if you look you see that sfx psu are not as wide as atx psu

https://pcper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/sfx-vs-atx-psu-1.jpg

[valid siren]

ah yes, the o11 mini, the $110 ATX-sized case that still requires an SFX PSU and a bunch of extra fans to work properly. In a word, expensive

[wintry dagger]

Atx slot

If comes with an adapter in the box

[alpine gale]

Uhhhh... that's not an ATX PSU slot. That's where the 2x 3.5" HDD's would go.

[wintry dagger]

You can take them out for a psu slot

If you still want ur drive bays you can put them in the sfx slot

[manic torrent]

pay to play

[small zephyr]

you literally see in that picture that it is not wide enough

you may fit atx psu inside it if you dont close the side panel...

[wintry dagger]

I got it to work and it fits so idk

I used a 450w antec psu or something with an a

[manic torrent]

You can fit anything anywhere with enough effort.

[wintry dagger]

Ayo

📸🤨

Utis suck I stg I’ve been needing to use the bathroom every 5 mins

[small zephyr]

https://external-preview.redd.it/4hjujQFmLiwUG435wDFtCggMCUJ9aV6GM9VDOKkKxeY.jpg?auto=webp&s=5217254d7b91b931e192be448b4c888b1a7e0a6a

yeah i gues you can count that as atx psu fits

if you dont want to close your panels that is

the o11 air mini is wider

[alpine gale]

Yep, can confirm. Lian-Li's website is correct. I forgot the publish the CAD files on their site. Solves that mystery. Now I can sleep knowing the O11 Dynamic Mini indeed won't "officially" fit an ATX PSU without a hacksaw.

[elfin python]

Sad

i use corsair carbide 275Q
it has padding to reduce noise and a free fan hub which i liked because my OEM motherboard only has one fan header for case fans

but once i upgrade to a new cpu and motherboard i could remove the fan hub

[full fossil]

I just ate two scorpions…

[elfin python]

are they poisonous

[cloud ivy]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-13th-gen-core-raptor-lake-cpu-pricing-leaked-by-newegg-i9-13900k-for-660-i7-13700k-450-i5-13600k-at-330

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=raptor+lake

[tired glade]

Oh, my 13 gen is worse than zen4

[cloud ivy]

how so ?

[tired glade]

If they slashing prices so low

[cloud ivy]

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores

[tired glade]

Just 13600 will be better

Waiting for reviews

[cloud ivy]

i9 13900K has 8 more cores and cheaper than 7950x

[tired glade]

Those are e-cores

[slim yacht]

damn they had to compete with prices now ay

good thing is its a price slash

more consumer friendly in terms of cash

[tired glade]

Yea,that good thing

[cloud ivy]

hopefully they wont be hot like 95 ffs

[tired glade]

Hope it won't be just 7800x3d and everything else

Oh, right,95c thing

[slim yacht]

13900k will be
other in the lineup probably will do just fine

[tired glade]

13900k will downclock,7950x won't

[slim yacht]

amd : throttling who ?

[tired glade]

And there is 65w mode too...

[cloud ivy]

understandable but still I dont want sustained 95c temps for 5-6 hours during training

[tired glade]

Imagen 7950x at 65w in ultrabook and it's not throttling

[slim yacht]

its basically a proof of concept of i paid for everything ill use everything with amd shit

[tired glade]

It can endlessly be at 95

[cloud ivy]

ye I know

[tired glade]

It's made for 95c,it won't degrade

[cloud ivy]

but still worrisome

[tired glade]

Servers all the time at that, it's finally arrived to desktop

[slim yacht]

my dudes, just get a 12400 and be done

[tired glade]

5800x3d still there

[full fossil]

apparently my Threadripper 5975WX isnt compatible with windows 11

[tepid bolt]

Why is it though

It knows what it can take.

[full fossil]

also the RTX 3070 is apparently a CPU now acording to windows 11

[cloud ivy]

I am worried about my case temps and aio cooler

[tepid bolt]

Why would you worry about it?

You do realize the water inside the aio and the air coming off the heatsink won't be 95c right?

[cloud ivy]

I dont think it will be able to handle high temps for long time

yeah

[tepid bolt]

Then don't buy shit

Literally lol

If you have an average case and not-trash cooler you're all set

Even if the chips are running at 95c. Power consumption (which is what heats up the environment and things around it) is still much lower than Intel's.

The only CPU that matched the power consumption of the 12900k was a 7950x on one of the best coolers in the market while at 100% fan speed

[tired glade]

It's laggy on 11, best is still Linux

[livid shore]

Is tech-support the right channel to go to for help on hardware stuff as well? Have a question about cutting GPU fan cables.

[full fossil]

linux is mid

unix supremacy

[full fossil]

11 is smooth as fuck with the 5975WX wtf you mean

it was laggy in 10

but thats cause 10 dosent know what more then 6 cores is

[oblique smelt]

i Asked alexa : I failed my test Cheer me up
Alexa: You know whats the difference in you and your grandma
Also alexa: Your grandma has passed.

[slim yacht]

well alexa is basically right in a perspective

[tired glade]

Oh, it's coin toss how it will work

[rustic crown]

Windows 10 has no idea on how to use 4 amd fx cores and its fun to watch

(8 core dies x4 for 32 total)

[fossil frost]

looking at picking up a i7-6700 dell optiplex for my kids (because they are cheap), and torn on what GPU to put in it... it needs to run fortnite at 1080p (medium-ish settings will be fine) and other esports style titles... anybody any ideas on a cheapo gpu that will be good enough to go in that sort of system?

[rustic crown]

rx6400?

Or hp oem rx460

These systems are basically hard locked to 75w gpus

[fossil frost]

hmmn, rx460 4gb, £50... not bad

[rustic crown]

Forkknife runs on a potato

1080p low yields a locked 60 fps

On a i7 2600

In dx11 mode

in dx 12 id expect 60 fps med

[fossil frost]

im torn between a 5500U laptop for £500, or, this 6th gen i7 with a rx460 or 1060 (depending on price/availability)

£500 vs £200 total

[rustic crown]

The thing about the 460 is its super low power use

5500u intel will not play fortnight

[fossil frost]

5500U == amd ryzen

[rustic crown]

intel has a 5500u as well

[atomic coral]

<@&750150305383186585> Could someone DM me at their convenience. TIA

[rustic crown]

Bc naming

The dell has the pro of better cooling and upgrades

[fossil frost]

the dell has the pro of it being cheaper and me not caring as much if he ruins it 🙂

[rustic crown]

Being a desktop made for office use its ment for 24/7 use

Also to kill a optiplex is like trying to kill a dinosaur with a fork

[fossil frost]

the only reason im thinking about the dell, is that if something dies, i can still transfer the cpu, gpu and/or ram out of it, into another motherboard... (because the dell motherboard is never going in another box)

[slim yacht]

bro literally pinged mod

[rustic crown]

They may have a scam to report

If its related to the server it could be a valid ping

[atomic coral]

I'm after info regarding the company is all.

[slim yacht]

5500U ryzen is the chad ryzen

[atomic coral]

But will delete if needed 🙂

[slim yacht]

not really chad actually, but its efficient enough

[rustic crown]

The issue with laptops is they arnt made for long usage

[slim yacht]

since you pinged nvm it

they'll probably contact u

[rustic crown]

Most laptops have a sub 70% duty cycle rating

Only some gaming and workstation machines have 100% cycle ratings

[slim yacht]

i milked my old laptop for about 8 years
man still going strong now. they can hold if you take care of them enough

[rustic crown]

Vs the desktop that has a 100% duty cycle

[atomic coral]

Adding an ssd isaved mine.

[rustic crown]

Also desktop would be more servicable

[fossil frost]

i wonder if the dell is one of the rare dells that i could transplant the motherboard into another case, and just swap out their dogshit PSU for a real PSU

[rustic crown]

Also irl I should apply for a associates role as I do work with a refurb group

Dell doesn't cheap on the psus for optiplex

[fossil frost]

i know its not cheap, but its still not an atx psu that will go in a normal person case

[rustic crown]

They are gold and platinum rated fsp and delta units

They arnt high wattage to keep efficiency up

Also they don't need to deal with 450w+ transient loads, looking at you

If dell used unreliable psu's they wouldn't be in offices everywhere

[fossil frost]

again, im not arsed about its reliability, im arsed about putting the system in a different case

[atomic coral]

IMVHO they way things move It's kind of a misnomer these days to say that you can upgrade a PC. To upgrade now its really MB memory and CPU and likely cooling solution as well. Case PSU and GPU are the only thing that's serviceable, unless there's a new connector for the 4090's. But 1600 corsair not long bought I'm sticking with 3090's.

[rustic crown]

you missed the point by the distance linus drops stuff

A fan swap on a optiplex is a 5 minute job, a fan swap on a lenovo idea pad is a 30+ minute job

[fossil frost]

balls, found a picture of the motherboard... front-io is built into the motherboard, and the only power connectors to the motherboard are an 8pin and a 4 pin... so unlikely to be transplantable to a new case :S

[rustic crown]

ya post haswell they have io built in

[fossil frost]

so, gonna need a low profile capable GPU

[rustic crown]

tba a i3 12100 and a h610 with ddr4 and rx460

Probably could get that as a system for 500£

[hoary furnace]

or external gpu enclosure

[fossil frost]

noope, not at all an option. this is for a child

[hoary furnace]

oh i see

how old?

[fossil frost]

10

[hoary furnace]

Get them to build a budget/second hand parts pc, good education

[rustic crown]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6hFyyK

Add 50 for a rx 460

Its like 430£

[hoary furnace]

700w?

[wise tundra]

EU shipping be like: LTT screw driver would cost me 109.10$

[rustic crown]

its an example

You could optimize it more

[hoary furnace]

I'm here with the wera competitor screwdriver and ifixit kit, looking at the ltt screwdriver... i have absolutely no justification or need for it

but it looks nice

Also I have 4 fine backpacks i barely use on a shelf

[rustic crown]

Also that i3 murders the i7

Its not even a fair fight

Crylake aged like dirt. Esp after the 3300 hit the market and the 12100 was the last nail

A am4 with a b450 and 3300 would be amds equivalent

[sonic barn]

Thank your importing fees

[forest wedge]

I need help

I don't why my PC is just not opening, even my headphones don't light up when I press power button

Was working fine last night, there is a green light in between the ram slots

Which makes me think psu is fine and it's getting power

Maybe motherboard cell thing

[fossil frost]

is your reset button stuck down? is your power button actually working properly?

[forest wedge]

Could be power button

[fossil frost]

your motherboard could also be in a state where its not responding to the power button. so power it off at the wall.. to make sure the motherboard is in a state where its clean

also, before that, is your monitor switched on

[forest wedge]

Is there any indicator to know if it is?

This feels like power button problem

[fossil frost]

are any fans spinning inside the pc?

[forest wedge]

Nope

[fossil frost]

probably not the monitor then. pc is off there, or in a c state...

[forest wedge]

Yeah

[fossil frost]

power off at the wall... wait... power back on at the wall... then try and turn it on as normal

ive had issues in the past where the motherboard got stuck in sleep, and wouldnt come out of sleep until i power cycled at the plug

[forest wedge]

Took the plugs out to

Putting em back in

Still working

😦

Could it be that cell in mobo

[fossil frost]

no, it would still power on, it just wouldnt know what time it was

[forest wedge]

Ah, the light on mobo is working when Its getting power, so I guess it's power button issue

[fossil frost]

if you know what you are doing, you can take the side panel off, find the jumper header where your power button connects, remove the power button connector from the motherboard... then use a screwdriver or a fork or a knife to touch both of the terminals that the power button was connected to

that will mimic a power button press

[forest wedge]

Let me check on yt which connector is that

[fossil frost]

check the manual for your motherboard

[manic torrent]

just short random pins on your motherboard, WCGW

[fossil frost]

hence the prefix... if you know what you are doing

[fossil frost]

obviously... dont do it if you are not sure... you could burn something out

[manic torrent]

I know what I'm doing, but I ruin shit all the time 😄

[forest wedge]

Oh, is that bad?

[manic torrent]

I picked up my new 27" 1440p IPS 144hz monitor. Aww yeah.

new to me, anyway

[fossil frost]

i scared the shit out of my GF last night because of exactly that... 😄 ... testing some stuff out with this rpi pico... accidentally plugged a red LED between +5v and gnd coming directly from usb, tiny bit of smoke immediately followed by a very loud pop 😄

[wary marlin]

I'm curious why Dell products are actually so expensive compared to similar products from other brands? Is it just the name?

[manic torrent]

haha, I shorted 3 cells of lipo down a tiny wire for ground and that was a glorious amount of smoke.

[fossil frost]

bet that smelled fantastic... 😄

[manic torrent]

sometimes it's because they are good, sometimes it's the name. Generally it's because you can just buy them and it's very low stress

[hoary furnace]

Also remember to press the power button inbetween unplugging and plugging it back in, helps discharge the caps

[manic torrent]

like as a business, you just order it, and if it blows up, you get dell to send you another one.

[wary marlin]

yeah i can see why businesses use them ig

[manic torrent]

not as good as the time an ESC actually caught fire 😄

[fossil frost]

if there is an LED that is on, that will already do that for you

[hoary furnace]

yeah just slower

[wary marlin]

is Dell known for being pretty fair with their replacements?

[hoary furnace]

and might not drain all rails

[forest wedge]

Uhhh need to send a pic

Someone check tech chat

[manic torrent]

ehhh, it varies, but you can get a next-day replacement warranty relatively cheaply

particularly if you're buying lots of dells

[hoary furnace]

from my (work) experience, yes, but expensive and sometimes they make you do 1000 redudant things first

[fossil frost]

ah nice... only thing like that ive ruined is a tmc 2209 driver... turns out that the stepper drivers in a 3d printer board are not hotswappable, and catch fire if you try 😄

[hoary furnace]

"The server says a dimm has failed" "Can you update your HDD firmware to latest first?"

[manic torrent]

also if you connect them off-by-one 😄

[night heron]

i kind of want to revert ios versions

i’ve been having bugs on ios 16

[hoary furnace]

you'll make tim cook sad

[manic torrent]

Tim Apple will come to your house and smash your phone

[forest wedge]

Anyone know in that pic which ones might be connectors

I mean power button connectors

This is a HP mobo

[manic torrent]

motherboard manual.

[hoary furnace]

^ also #tech-support

[forest wedge]

Don't have the manual, been like 6 years with this pc 😦

[hoary furnace]

They're online

[forest wedge]

Thanks

[manic torrent]

have you heard of the internet?

[fossil frost]

they are all PDFs online now

[manic torrent]

what sort of insane person uses a meatspace manual

manuals are for recycling. You never read the instructions.

A good product should be obvious how to use 😄

[hoary furnace]

to be fair, i do use them when building, because getting another device is a pita

[manic torrent]

"getting" ?

[hoary furnace]

from another room or something idk

im lazy

[manic torrent]

I'm sitting here with my phone and my PC and my laptop and my server

[fossil frost]

even if somebody doesnt have a laptop and a server as well as their pc... everyone has a phone now, its very very rare that there isnt a 2nd device for web access in a house now

[manic torrent]

and I got rid of them, but I did have two spare chromebooks as well 🙂

[past egret]

apparently if you google nasas dart, you can get slammed by the dart itself

[hoary furnace]

if you can sit in the same room as your server, its not a real server. #gatekeeping

i wish i could have a rack, but no

[manic torrent]

My server is just an old system - I do server stuff for real, and I haven't touched a physical server in many many years.

[white fractal]

The one manual you want is the one for your router (assuming it isn’t pfsense or some home brew one)

[hoary furnace]

yee same

[manic torrent]

hell, I haven't been in a datacenter or even a server room for a long long time

[hoary furnace]

well, that's a lie, sometimes i go to DCs

[fossil frost]

a server, by definition, is a computer that serves something... so... its a real server

[hoary furnace]

I was just being silly

[manic torrent]

I also hgave an ec2 instance 🙂

[past egret]

from who

[hoary furnace]

...aws?

[slim yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrkWRTMu64
those temps jeez man

360mm cant handle this shit

[manic torrent]

I mean.. yeah. it's over 200W

[past egret]

google has ec2, too dont they

[fossil frost]

no, ec2 is amazon's branding for its compute nodes

[past egret]

the equivalent

[manic torrent]

yes, but it isn't called ec2

when you say ec2, it means aws.

[past egret]

fair

[slim yacht]

time to vapor chamber

[fossil frost]

thats like saying "i have coca cola" and saying "from who? pepsi do that too"... no. pepsi make their version of cola, but they dont make coca cola

[past egret]

good metaphor

[fossil frost]

on about pepsi, i still think its great that at one point, pepsi had the 6th largest navy in the world

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48343589

[past egret]

yes ive heard of that

yet to see them mobilize

[fossil frost]

they "sold them for scrap" and 100% do not act as a mercenary force against coke 😄

[past egret]

wouldve been a good show

[sonic barn]

Coca cola cartel

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jul/24/marketingandpr.colombia

[fossil frost]

coke are about as evil as nestle, ideally, nobody should buy any coke or nestle products

[manic torrent]

Nobody should buy anything. No ethical consumption under capitalism

[sonic barn]

Buy food and pc hardware

Pay bills

[forest wedge]

Ok, so far, doesn't seem to be working when I try to jump start

I used a screwdriver but didn't know which one is for power button

[past egret]

we should all start living in the wild, farming and cultivate on our own

[manic torrent]

That is in some ways worse 🙂

Laws of thermodynamics will get you every time

[past egret]

its better than, child labour or something

whatever companies do nowdays

[manic torrent]

Indeed, but it's nowhere near as effecient, and it isn't scalable for basically anyone. It makes no effective difference.

[past egret]

how about robbing and thievery

maybe more

we can really make the companies take a hit from it

[autumn fable]

Can you just post the pc on battle stations or does it have to be the whole setup?

[manic torrent]

yes

[autumn fable]

Alr Im just gonna post the pc thanks

[past egret]

can i post a setup that isnt mine

probably not

[harsh lodge]

slow browser fix ?

it only happens when ethernet is plugged in

when it is wifi it is usable

[hoary furnace]

#tech-support

[fossil frost]

crap cable? badly configured network? badly configured network port on your pc... could be many things