public-chat

[tender sentinel]

yes it was mutual agreement, Texas brought the oil and the US brought the goods.

[wraith sonnet]

the only thing even close to x86's backwards compatibility is powerpc

[slim yacht]

anything CISC can do i guess?
theres a reason why theres a separate windows for arm

[tender sentinel]

aaa the twitching is back

[wraith sonnet]

arm emulation for x86 is still very lackluster

[tender sentinel]

I really need to get this twitching mess checked out.

[slim yacht]

RISC was build for mobile, iot or sorts of products that doesnt have the complexity CISC needed to run

[wraith sonnet]

ARM was built for power efficiency

[slim yacht]

yes it is, arm built them for low power products

[wraith sonnet]

quick, what arm processor is the most popular without checking google

[slim yacht]

apple m1

[upbeat ridge]

Card to tap in

[slim yacht]

the reason why apple uses arm nowadays is because its much more power efficient
but they sacrifice not being able to emulate anything that x86 can do without them being optimized for mac system first

[wraith sonnet]

it would be the ARM946

[upbeat ridge]

Yes

[wraith sonnet]

the 946 literally was the nintendo ds' proc

[median idol]

Okay but still I was mostly referring to how the 4080 launch MSRP was compared to its predecessor the 3080. The reason why NVIDIA is getting this flak is that they try to dub what could have been the 4070 a "4080 12GB" as if we don't notice when most people can see through the BS anyway.

[upbeat ridge]

Flirt

[wraith sonnet]

@vapid smelt .

[vapid smelt]

i dont use trax

[wraith sonnet]

jesus why not

[upbeat ridge]

Arriva is also blue here

[slim yacht]

amd and intel can always push for better compact layer because systems that are built with their systems are mostly on windows
they literally have that monopoly. they just dont because arm RISC is inferior to X86 CISC lol

[vapid smelt]

i have a car and the trax doesn't go where i need to go

[slim yacht]

theyre different product segment entirely

[wraith sonnet]

if I can derail for a minute

[frozen zenith]

Accidentally overclocked my vacuum cleaner and now i own a blackhole

[wraith sonnet]

the lenovo 4090 is TOO DAMN NICE

[upbeat ridge]

But we have Blauwnet which is a combination of Arriva (branch of DB, German national operator) and Keolis (branch of SNCF, French national operator)

Yeah it depends on the region

[slim yacht]

give me one thing arm can do similar to x86
go

[wraith sonnet]

run mac os

[slim yacht]

oh shit i forgot about that

[upbeat ridge]

In the north they used to be red, but now are light blue, here it’s Blauwnet with that livery, and in the south Arriva is dark blue

[median idol]

You sure about that, azizi? The launch price for the 3080 was $700 when it was announced..... So that's a $500 increase compared to the 4080 16GB and the 3080. In fact the launch for the 16GB 4080 is the same as the 3080 Ti when it was announced $1200

[wraith sonnet]

To be clear, our consensus is that we're not happy about the pricing either

[slim yacht]

i can guarantee you right now what arm can achieve with lower power chip can be easily achieveable with x86
for example power consumption and performance efficiency
but there is no way arm can reach performance spectrum x86 can offer

[wraith sonnet]

thunderbolt

[slim yacht]

arm is low power chip
what are u even doubting ?

amd x86 chip gets the same efficiency as m1 with their 5800U

[wraith sonnet]

comparing architecture is objectively wrong, it's like comparing apples to oranges but you're allergic to bananas

[slim yacht]

its correct, you'd have to change to CISC to reach the same performance gap
theyre both different product and target entirely

[wraith sonnet]

in the end you're reinventing tribalism for no reason

just because you have less instructions doesn't make it better

[slim yacht]

theres a reason why phones uses arm instead of x86 you know

[wraith sonnet]

to win in a street race would you use a uhaul? would you move house with a motorcycle?

[slim yacht]

exactly lol
and x86 was made to run much more complicated shit

risc is 'reduced'

i dont see the point of adopting risc to modern systems when CISC are very well leveraged in modern system

[ocean narwhal]

It's about as fast as a 3090 without dlss3

[slim yacht]

https://www.educba.com/arm-vs-x86/#:~:text=ARM uses more memory to,more registers to achieve it.

have a read lol

theyre different product segments entirely

[wraith sonnet]

does dlss3 even run on the 3090?

[ocean narwhal]

No

That's why they're "2x faster"

If you look at the nvidia charts in games that don't have dlss, 3090 is a fast as 4080 12gb

[wraith sonnet]

it almost seems like the 2080ti is the best option, dlss 2.0 AND less power?

[ocean narwhal]

It's only faster in games where you get to use frame interpolation with dlss3

[dreamy rose]

RISC V sounds cool

[ocean narwhal]

Architecture itself is such a complicated thing

You need toolchains, compilers, operating systems, all to leverage a new ISA

[lilac sage]

its funny because theres a techlinked that showcases that it wasnt even 2x faster

[median idol]

Well yes compared to the 12GB 4080 and 3080. Though what really makes me raise an eyebrow is looking at the specs it has and TBH it feels more like a successor to the 3070 more as opposed to the 3080. That's my main issue with the 4080 12GB more than anything. It just feels like an upcharged 4070. As for the 4090 I guess that's a nice improvement (though the 4x better RT performance is a bit of a bold claim there as we'll have to let the benchmarks do the talking) and that's probably the only one in the current lineup that feels like a true successor to its class. I'll admit that the RTX Remix is pretty cool NGL

[ocean narwhal]

That, and the implementation needs to be matured

[ocean narwhal]

That's hilarious

[slim yacht]

Transistors used for storing
complex instructions - cisc

Spends more transistors
on memory registers - risc

yeah i learned this in engineering, still dont change my mind how risc can replace x86 cisc when its a two different architecture and product segment entirely

[ocean narwhal]

I hate how they blatantly lie or at best mislead

[lilac sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VacJ7rHNAw&t=318s&ab_channel=TechLinked

[slim yacht]

i dont want to have 128gb of ram just because i wanna move to arm
thats ridiculous

adding more cache to chip as well just to lower process latency

[ocean narwhal]

I feel like it's still a lot more complicated

Especially with the gazillion of extensions x86 has

How many generations of improvement each component of a chip has gotten

[slim yacht]

having simpler instruction sets in exchange of much lower support and implementation, more use of transistors and memory, and CISC itself being advantegous in computer world. sounds like a bad sacrifice to me

X86 can do what RISC arm can do pretty easily as CISC are quite versatile in it itself

[slim yacht]

also this as well*

[ocean narwhal]

Wtf r u on about

3080 is not 2x faster than 3070

[lilac sage]

it was never even advertised as such

I think the only 2x faster advertisement was 3080 vs 2080

25ish

to 30% ye

I found the graph

that shows 3080 is 2x 2080 according to nvidia

[lilac sage]

#tech-chat-2 message

it says up to as well

[echo ridge]

I always thought it was 2x 2080ti

[slim yacht]

arm was always a mobile chip to begin with, thus using risc makes much more sense
intel has already done big.Little tech which arm was having an advantage on.
unless amd/intel suddenly wants to use RISC for whatever reason then x86 will stay revelant especially with how well established it is now in computer world

[ocean narwhal]

Technically that's not what the chart says

2080ti = 4x 980
3080 = 5x 980

I can't do that math rn but they were obviously trying to trick ppl

Let me ask why we should even look at the nvidia graphs

Literally wait for reviews

[slim yacht]

they tryna do apple presentation about performance thing
its really misleading and informative somehow at the same time

[echo ridge]

It's a 980 faster

[ocean narwhal]

Yeah it's 1 980 faster lmao

Can I install an extra 980 and turn my 2080 into a 3080

[median idol]

I'm not taking DLSS 3 into account but rather RT performance. Now if it was just left at x2 then okay I can believe that..... What I'm saying is that we have to let the performance of said product do the talking as opposed to the supposed claims from Nvidia. Who knows maybe DLSS 3 might bring a shit ton of uplift compared to 2 but if anything I just find the 4X faster claim to be a bit questionable is all.

[ocean narwhal]

No, that's a 3040

Comparing anything with dlss3 is just moronic

Just compare every card with rtx off. And then separately compare the same card with rtx on and rtx off

[slim yacht]

nvidia primarily advertising their card with dlss 3.0 in the performance graphs might also suggest its not that big of a jump in performance as they just rely more on upscaling

[ocean narwhal]

But obviously they don't want to do that. Because even tho dlss3 and 2 ate completely different
It let's them say "gpu comparison with dlss" and get 4x improvements on unproven software tricks

[ocean narwhal]

100%

If you look at some of their charts I can't find rn. You'll see games that don't have dlss aren't nearly as much faster

Nvidia is damn near a software company at this point

Because it does not fairly show how fast the actual card is

Moreover, dlss3 is a completely unproven technology

What

"It's fast enuf trust me bro"

[slim yacht]

relying on software upscaling while claiming the card itself is 2x more powerful is lying to your consumer lol

and consumer gets charged crazy money for their cards

[ocean narwhal]

We don't know if the software has drawbacks

I'm pretty sure we actually know it does.

It's unproven tech used to defend an unproven speed boost

[dreamy rose]

half of that was the bad timing of Finalization in the midst of the shortage, but yes.

[rustic crown]

Nvidia, scamming consumers sense 1993

[ocean narwhal]

Also, it's still unfair, assuming every game has dlss3 makes no sense

[slim yacht]

bro not every game have dlss support

some of them just have amd fsr entirely or none

[dreamy rose]

that would become a Scandal if they said nothing

[ocean narwhal]

If the sold me a card with hardwired input lag causing ai software I would not buy it

Because gen1 looked like fucking ass

[rustic crown]

If I was a game dev, id pick amds solution, it works on windows linux, xbox and ps, and is open source, nvidia wants strict control on how its api is used

And only runs on nv hw

????

xbox, play station

Windows,

[ocean narwhal]

Who doesn't play a game because it doesn't have dlss lmao

[dreamy rose]

people with sharp eyes would notice that its not native.

[rustic crown]

you forgot amds solution runs on intel and nvidia

And even qcom

[slim yacht]

i still dont get how will people stop playing games without the appearance of dlss
majority of games still dont have them

[dreamy rose]

Snapdragon too

[rustic crown]

a tool exists to add fsr to any game

[dreamy rose]

the XR2 has it for VR and its neat

[upbeat ridge]

Although the one in the pic is actually Keolis and not Arriva

[slim yacht]

wait till gamers nexus benchmarks the card and prove to you that without dlss its practically a scam

[ocean narwhal]

I don't understand what that means

[upbeat ridge]

Cameo of a FP Exclusive 🙂

[ocean narwhal]

People would know if the bios is just rendering at half res

[rustic crown]

professional cards have display scaling as is, I have used it a few times

[dreamy rose]

the only nice thing to come from this is RTX Remix.

[rustic crown]

hw rt isn't new

[upbeat ridge]

This is great design thank you

[dreamy rose]

literally any other card playing the same game

[rustic crown]

SGI made rt cards for its hardware in the 90s

[slim yacht]

man this shi useful

[upbeat ridge]

Indeed

Also time sensitive so it is being read through my AirPods

Through my music

[rustic crown]

Nvidia is anti competive and anti consumer

[dreamy rose]

DLSS Will NEVER Be perfect. theres no reason a Trained eye would not pick it up.

[slim yacht]

that doesnt matter when they still rely on upscaling with dlss 3.0

[rustic crown]

They have proven this a few times

[dreamy rose]

📠

[ocean narwhal]

So the original argument was that only making comparisons with dlss3 is ridiculous. I think that's been established

Dlss3 can not be left on and make fair benchmark comparisons

Because it has downsides that haven't been fully investigated dood

[slim yacht]

if i rely on software which they claim is a hardware performance improvement, thats a scam lol

[rustic crown]

Bridges nvidia has burned, Microsoft(xbox og), apple(8600m), sony(7800gtx in ps3), xfx (not giving them high end dies), evga (under cutting them)

[slim yacht]

it would never
many games dont even support dlss

dlss cant run without native game support

[ocean narwhal]

What do you mean by this, if every software in the world supported dlss3 and was forced to be on?

[dreamy rose]

don't forget they burned SLI

[rustic crown]

Hw display scaling exists, amd has had it as of Hawaii, nvidia has locked it to quadro

[ocean narwhal]

The os would know if the entire gpu was trying to masquerade as half res or smth

But display to the screen in full

[rustic crown]

Also nvidia has put a iron fist on what cards can be made, you dont see dumb gpus like the gigabyte soc anymore bc of it

[ocean narwhal]

Ok, fair. But we don't know if dlss3 is actually good.

[rustic crown]

we can see you have a post of jenson on your wall like any fanboy would have

[ocean narwhal]

Or if all games on the planet have dls3

[median idol]

This. I will admit that feature is pretty cool. For those in the market for the 4090 for example that want to do game development or do some intensive mods okay I can see the appeal. Though the rest of the Nvidia conference is a massive bruh moment if I say so myself

[ocean narwhal]

So yes, across the tech stack. They somehow raise 4x fps. I don't care how they do it. But if I only get a 4x increase in fps in specific games, AND it causes input lag. That's no good.

[rustic crown]

I probably could fill this chat on the stuff nvidia has done that's shady and dumb

Discord is dumb

Ment to hit atom

[upbeat ridge]

i am too close to the german border now

this track im on continues on to germany

[ocean narwhal]

Which card is 2x faster than which?

[rustic crown]

Atom should join their intel brothern in forgetting how to execute instructions out of order

[echo ridge]

I mean it's one benchmark

[slim yacht]

raise to the aristocratic way of germany hail

[rustic crown]

what stops nvidia saying it gets 69420 jenson marks while amd only gets 10

[echo ridge]

And 2 benchmarks that one doesn't exist yet and the other is there own tech demo

[ocean narwhal]

There's no way to trust anything they say is the whole point

[upbeat ridge]

Lmao

[echo ridge]

Because he wants to split a atom

[ocean narwhal]

Nobody can say it's 2x faster

[slim yacht]

• plays ussr anthem *

[rustic crown]

the real performance of a card should be measured by it's polygons per second and flops if numbers are needed

[ocean narwhal]

No I mean

It's more nuanced than that of course

The only meaningful data is the data that actually applies to how you use the card

[rustic crown]

They are repeatable and consistent, dlss being ai isn't consistent for hw to hw

[echo ridge]

I have said 3 messages

[dreamy rose]

i have to say that if RTX Remix works on literally anything i would like to see GTA 4 look even more Depressing and Realistic.

[upbeat ridge]

No but really

[ocean narwhal]

Polygons per sec is hard because I mean fuck you can write bad code that does worse for the exact same scene on different hardware

[echo ridge]

And 2 of which was talking about the benchmark

[sharp bobcat]

and portal rtx

[dreamy rose]

don't get me wrong. the way GTA 4 looks is already pretty damn good for a game that old. but the RTX Treatment will probably make it better

[rustic crown]

if you run the same code on 2 card's it should be mostly consistent across the 2

[ocean narwhal]

Not at all

[rustic crown]

And they have testing standards

[ocean narwhal]

That's why different cards have different dx level performance

[sharp bobcat]

conclusion of this year's GTC is just portal RTX and Morrowind Remix. They're only there to announce Portal RTX and Morrowind Remix and you can't convince me otherwise

[echo ridge]

I'm fine with the 90 class cards

I have a problem with the 80 class

[rustic crown]

god this chat is too low iq to get any of high level benchmarks information

[ocean narwhal]

Things like instruction reordering too, it's more nuanced

[rustic crown]

@full fossil no just no, you are trying to say pro processing should be included in raw performance values

[echo ridge]

My iq is 2

[ocean narwhal]

If I only play csgo. That's the only benchmark I should care about

And if I never play dlss games. I don't care what the fuck dlss3 does

[rustic crown]

Go look at a real gpu review and see the points they break down

[ocean narwhal]

Yeah no, the best gpu review is one that tests the games u care about

Not the FLOPS on a super specific piece of code

[rustic crown]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review

They talk about the per component parts of the rendering

They have tessellation as a benchmark

[ocean narwhal]

The software does matter

[nocturne tide]

guys why are there little brown file box looking things on my desktop icons

[ocean narwhal]

Dlss3.0 is completely unproven. I've said this over and over again

[upbeat ridge]

A cycle highway

[rustic crown]

If you want advice, take everything jenson, lisa, and raja say on stage as a pile of bs

[ocean narwhal]

It is misleading though

Overall, the card is not 4x faster for things I use

[rustic crown]

imagine not knowing whom those 3 are

[latent plank]

what in the hell are you arguing ?

[ocean narwhal]

No, it is misleading. Deliberately using dlss3 vs 2 and hiding it in the gray small font description is bad

[echo ridge]

Yes.

[rustic crown]

Yes

[echo ridge]

Also hi nick

[latent plank]

yo

[analog snow]

Does anyone here play r6 siege and can explain why my CPU is at 90+ percent usage and GPU usage is at 1percent
32gb ram
3070
RYzen 3600
1440P 21:9 ratio

[merry gull]

Hallo nickkk!

[median idol]

Basically about the 40 series announcement in a nutshell

[latent plank]

its an announcement. ZERO benchmarks available

[rustic crown]

If you take dlss numbers into the percent speed difference I say yes

[latent plank]

move on

lol

[rustic crown]

Its post processing and can change with time

[ocean narwhal]

DONT DO
3090 dlss2 vs 4090 dlss3

DO
3090 vs 4090 no dlss AND
4090 no dlss vs 4090 dlss3

[echo ridge]

I've stayed out of it after I said 2 messages about the figures and got told to stop insulting someone

[rustic crown]

Real question for atom, what's a faster gpu, 780ti or 290x

[latent plank]

smart

[rustic crown]

On launch day it was the 780ti, now its the 290x

[ocean narwhal]

Lmao

[latent plank]

thats a reach

[ocean narwhal]

Yes.. I agree lol

[merry gull]

fr

[rustic crown]

another fun one is, what direct x version does intel hd 4600 support

[echo ridge]

More like a regional war

[ocean narwhal]

I'm very interested how dog dlss3 is for anything that isn't cinematic

[echo ridge]

11_1

[rotund temple]

[echo ridge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/hd-graphics-4600.c1953

[latent plank]

DLSS is great for bumping up to a higher res with lower end hardware

[rustic crown]

Both dx 11_1 and 12 based on drivers

[ocean narwhal]

Yea but dlss3 either extrapolates or interpolates frames (not sure which one) so it either will jitter or have some input latency

[analog snow]

no one 😦

[rustic crown]

It has issues

[latent plank]

everything has drawbacks

[rustic crown]

I can't use dlss 2 on my main display bc of color data issues with 10bit

When testing my 2080s

[ocean narwhal]

There must be a reason the 40fps dlss3 video was from an on rails cinematic and not someone wildly flailing the cursor around

[rotund temple]

Theres always gonna be limits on what a technology like DLSS can do

[rustic crown]

I need to drop to 8bit color to use dlss2

[echo ridge]

Also when is 7000 launch

[ocean narwhal]

It isn't free fps

[echo ridge]

Cpu

[median idol]

November IIRC

[rustic crown]

Also game devs need to support dlss

Unlike amd were tools exist to add it to any game

[echo ridge]

That's the gpus

[ocean narwhal]

I think nvidia has something the works in every game technically

NVS I think

[rustic crown]

29th if I remember for am5 public

[ocean narwhal]

I'm p sure it's bad tho

[rustic crown]

For a while it was quadro only as well

[echo ridge]

No

Your on the internet

[latent plank]

didnt you start this?

[ocean narwhal]

I ain't calling it garbage 100% but it has one of 2 drawbacks and I wonder how it deals with them

[full fossil]

Because your cpu kinda sucks and you are at a few that is still pretty cpu bound. Gpu usage at 1 percent still weirdly low tho idk. And r6 is more cpu bound.

[rustic crown]

Just don't let this lead to godwins law

[echo ridge]

3600 does not suck

He is on 1440p too

[full fossil]

27th

[ocean narwhal]

3600 kinda pooper

[echo ridge]

Me and my 1700x

[ocean narwhal]

I was cpu bound in elden ringy on my 3600

[median idol]

TBH if anything I was calling out the marketing BS that Nvidia was trying to pull. I don't hate Nvidia's GPUs as I have a 3090 myself. It's really the 4080 12GB that was quite the eyebrow riser for me really

[full fossil]

It's not great especially with a 3070 lol

[full fossil]

Yeah

[echo ridge]

Its fine at 1440p

[rustic crown]

amd posted 2 days, one for reviews and one for buying

[analog snow]

D: ... LTT should do video is 3600 still comp with 30 series

[ocean narwhal]

Ok I go to bed

[full fossil]

Yeah no

[rustic crown]

Rg hd can do that

Ltt can let linus drop stuff

Or let raja drop stuff

He dropped a rx 480 when talking to linus

[analog snow]

idk seems controversial perfect for ltt tbh

[upbeat ridge]

Good app design thank you

[rustic crown]

And watch dlss 3 see no adaptation after amd updates fsr again

If ms wanted to they could just add fsr to dx

You have been through this debate for this long and forgot fsr exists

You are relying on devs to pick nvidias closed api over amds basically equivalent open api

And amds api is one and done and works on, windows pcs with intel, amd nvidia. consoles. Xbone and ps, phones and tablets, qcom

You can run fsr without support

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/magpie-run-amd-fsr-on-any-game

Also adding it is a lot easier as a dev than dlss

think a game dev from a dead studio will add support to a game from 2007

[latent plank]

so?

[rustic crown]

Also fsr is open so making replacement dlls for games is super easy

Think cyberpunk has a replacement dll for fsr already

[echo ridge]

Whats the problem with that

[rustic crown]

Rdr2 has it as well

[echo ridge]

Embed failure. Laugh at this user

[rustic crown]

Devs have reported adding fsr takes a hour or 2 vs days for dlss

As fsr doesn't require hooking into the 3D Rendering engine like dlss

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[echo ridge]

Not sketch

[rustic crown]

That app is literatally open source

[latent plank]

boy oh boy

[median idol]

Me too, Nick.. me too xD

[rustic crown]

And is on github

https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie/

[latent plank]

open source is ultimately better for ppl in the long run

[rustic crown]

Nvidia used to pay people to shill on forums

[analog snow]

CPU upgrade then for me 3070 (engineer so includes cad, renderings, coding etc.)

[latent plank]

nvidia is and has been against consumers for some time

[rustic crown]

Nvidia cripples some workstation stuff on geforce cards

[echo ridge]

You just described 99 percent of companies

[latent plank]

shh

[echo ridge]

Seasonic

[rustic crown]

including ltt

Beats elons payed army of shills

[echo ridge]

Nick how much cheaper is stuff from the office?

[uncut axle]

Way more expensive, definitely

[rustic crown]

I have a mobo and cpu I'm nda'd from letting ltt review

[latent plank]

its used ebay pricing for used stuff, msrp for new stuff

[rustic crown]

I can talk about it but can't send it to ltt its great

[uncut axle]

Lol

[rustic crown]

It's unrealsed via hardware

[latent plank]

interesting

[rustic crown]

Lga 2011 16nm 8 cores

[uncut axle]

💀💀

[rustic crown]

Its called centaur halls

[echo ridge]

I'm pretty sure one of the people in here that oc have a z490 amd board

[rustic crown]

that's fzr don't die

I also have a 2080 super laptop desktop engineering card

[latent plank]

my stuff is pretty modest

[uncut axle]

I have something that’s not even in the idea of being released, lga 1366

[echo ridge]

Probably not when you get the intel extreme tech upgrade

[latent plank]

what does that have to do with me?

[rustic crown]

https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/03/23/via-part-4-a-deep-dive-into-centaurs-last-cpu-core-cns/

[latent plank]

also we dont own it

[uncut axle]

And I’m 1mil usd in debt, lol

[echo ridge]

Do you think mans lieus sus tips

[latent plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hxr9k5Vdc4 this thing?

[echo ridge]

So do the people that make help make super cars

[latent plank]

lol that is borrowed

[rustic crown]

id love a signed x79 deluxe from linus

[echo ridge]

Yes.

[sharp yoke]

mmm yum.. all that money

[latent plank]

sent to make cool videos and mess with

[vapid smelt]

until it gets "lost" in shipping

[rustic crown]

Form when they had the ogl editing systems

[uncut axle]

Tbh my dad probably worked on rigs that is over 1 million dollars, or around there, since he is in the oil industry (kinda)

[echo ridge]

Should I watch it

[latent plank]

it is going bye bye soon

[sharp yoke]

[rustic crown]

I have worked on a 2.3m usd ibm power system

[uncut axle]

Give it to me

[uncut axle]

Lol

[latent plank]

smart companies that like cool videos

[echo ridge]

So there warehouse

[uncut axle]

He worked on some oil rigs but rn he does coding for the oil rigs

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-gif-23756243

[uncut axle]

💀💀💀

[echo ridge]

I'll pay 2 cents

[vapid smelt]

steal the computer and retire

[median idol]

Tree fidy

[uncut axle]

I will pay $5 and a Big Mac

[echo ridge]

6.90

[uncut axle]

Or maybe even the 3000 rounds of .22 we have i think

[latent plank]

this makes it obvious that you dont know how servers work

[echo ridge]

America

Laughs in raid

[uncut axle]

I believe we have 1500 rounds of 9mm and 3000 rounds of .22 or 1500 rounds of some rifle round and 3000 rounds of 9mm

[uncut axle]

My dad got it when he was in his prepper phase

We also had like 50 pounds of beans and rice at that time as well

[uncut axle]

He also has like 9 rifles and 5 pistols, at least we are definitely protected against anyone trying to attack us

[echo ridge]

Tree fidy

[echo ridge]

Guys I think we have a American

[uncut axle]

Lol

[latent plank]

ummm

[rustic crown]

I'm an American and only have a 22lr lo

[uncut axle]

Not enough

[latent plank]

the gpus are 90% of the compute power

[uncut axle]

Lol

[echo ridge]

Also come on its linus tech tips they don't drop things

Oh wait...

[uncut axle]

I mean some may not be fully legal (some of them he didn’t have to do a background check or anything💀💀), although they are older than 10 years old so it’s fine I believe

[echo ridge]

Gun shows

Private sales

[latent plank]

thats the box for the GPUs

[uncut axle]

Yeah, I’m surprised they don’t need the background check or gun license

[uncut axle]

With a gun license you can skip the whole background check thing since it’s already done

[manic torrent]

More than you can afford pal

[teal estuary]

expensive to very expensive

[manic torrent]

The cost of hardware is not particularly meaningful in an enterprise context - you also need someone to administer it, backups, UPS, yadda yadda yadda.

[vapid smelt]

you

[manic torrent]

I mean, admittedly, it's an older reference, but wow.

[teal estuary]

those JBODs that Linus showed off have a "retail" price of about $9k iirc

[median idol]

[teal estuary]

thats w/o drives, w/o head

[vapid smelt]

50 20tb drives cost $21,000 alone

[teal estuary]

dont forget about the $5k in slots for those drives

[uncut axle]

I kinda didn’t expect it to be like that tbh, at least it’s most things are allowed in the main chat channel in most servers

[median idol]

Basically enough to buy a new car?

[teal estuary]

and the head server to run them, RAM isn't cheap

[latent plank]

40-60k for a basic build

[teal estuary]

and then some, yes

[echo ridge]

Less then I expected

Is that usd or cad

[uncut axle]

Don’t they normally use ddr3 or something? I was reading something about that

[latent plank]

USD and thats BASIC

[vapid smelt]

a ssd petabyte server on the other hand

[teal estuary]

what do you define as "basic build"?

[latent plank]

lowest end cpu and minimum ram.

[manic torrent]

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7ff72bc0-9381-4d91-8778-55d25b1aded0

[echo ridge]

Cheap

[teal estuary]

servers have used DDR4 since Haswell (2014), and next gen CPUs are moving to DDR5, all ECC ofc

[uncut axle]

I can buy like 5 of those a day🥱🥱

[teal estuary]

with asterisks on there, because some things used DDR3

[uncut axle]

Definitely

[vapid smelt]

a petabyte of ssds is $190,014 for basic consumer 15tb ones

[teal estuary]

im mostly talking about E5 and EPYC cpus

[echo ridge]

So how many petabyte servers does ltt have

Green

Embed failure. Laugh at this user.

[uncut axle]

Pocket change for me

[echo ridge]

Why doesn't star wars use guns

[uncut axle]

I haven’t used one yet (surprisingly)

[uncut axle]

Anyways idk if it’s allowed to talk about it tbh

[echo ridge]

Like if the bullet hits the laser it doesn't bounce back

[uncut axle]

Maybe in off topic it is

[south knot]

Hey guys can anyone help me with some audio issues

[vapid smelt]

[manic torrent]

maybe if you tell us what they are

[south knot]

It's in audio tech

[uncut axle]

Idk tbh, it might go through

[echo ridge]

#tech-support

[south knot]

Ight

[mortal pier]

Energy blasters are cost effective

[vapid smelt]

you need oxygen to shoot a bullet and some of them fight in space space

[uncut axle]

If we are gonna keep on this topic it’s probably best to move to #off-topic, so we don’t get in any trouble

[echo ridge]

Bet

[teal estuary]

no you dont, guns will shoot just fine in space

[manic torrent]

"just fine" as far as the gun is concerned, sure. It may not feed nicely, but eh - it doesn't matter because you will be pushed back with the same force the bullet is shot out at

so the moral of the story is you want two guns, perfectly aligned, that you shoot at the same time, so you maintain 0 kinetic energy change.

[teal estuary]

im looking only at the gun itself, which will feed, fire, and eject just fine

[vapid smelt]

yeah just realized look at some articles

[teal estuary]

even with gravity, the shell is ejected and a new round fed fast enough that gravity basically doesnt matter

[mortal pier]

And that is almost nothing bcz of size diff

[manic torrent]

nope. and in space, there is nothing to stop you. Without an opposing force you will continue in that direction forever

[echo ridge]

There is some gravity

[mortal pier]

Depends if you have something ur anchored to, and if ur shooting in space, ur probably well prepared

[mortal pier]

Yes

[manic torrent]

Gravity isn't a force, and possibly, but it doesn't really matter in this scenario

[vapid smelt]

not sure if the gas pressure would cycle a semi or full auto gun

[echo ridge]

Bolt would def

[manic torrent]

exactly. It might work, it might not. because there's no air pressure. It would depend on the tolerances.

[teal estuary]

yes, it would

[vapid smelt]

oh

[echo ridge]

I mean if your sitting down

[manic torrent]

.... how do you "sit down" in space?

[teal estuary]

while that isn't wrong, it is worth noting that if you are still tied to your spacecraft, its fine.
bullets are really slow in terms of space travel, the difference in orbit from firing a gun is pretty negligible.
a .22LR muzzle velocity is 370-530m/s-ish, LEO oribital velocity is about 30,000m/s

oh ffs google, giving wrong numbers because i cant remember exactly what it is

its about 30000km/h, or 7800m/s

still relatively slow, and a tiny amount of mass

[manic torrent]

depends on where "in space" is.

[teal estuary]

im looking at LEO, most common place in space for people to be

[manic torrent]

most of space is empty blackness

[uncut axle]

If I have a question about some editing software, where should I go?

[wanton glade]

Hey guys, I get to buy a secret lab omega soon, should I get mesh, or non mesh one ?

[frozen zenith]

Can you build a wireless PC ?
Like each hardware component connects to each other wirelessly
And even monitor connectors to the tower wirelessly

Or maybe atleast the monitor connects to the pc wirelessly

[wanton glade]

DAmn this guy got some serious answers here, I like it

[wanton glade]

For the monitor, it's possible. For the components, no way

[full fossil]

Guys, C10H15N

[rustic crown]

A wireless gpu exists for displays

[wanton glade]

Their placement was calculated precisely to be next to the cpu, and stuff, so that calculations take the least time possible

WIreless = latency

With today's technology, it's getting better and better, but then expensive, so better gowired

[rustic crown]

@serene mantle has that wireless gpu

[wanton glade]

Or buy project stealth from msi lol

No "apparent" wieres

Aorus, not msi, my bad

[rustic crown]

Also some servers have no wires internally

Using only back planes for everything

[frozen zenith]

Can you send link where to download ram ? I need about 200 tb more for this game I'm trying to play

[wanton glade]

lmfao

what the wha ?

[frozen zenith]

Here are the Tetris Effect System Requirements (Minimum)
CPU: Intel i3-4340
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 204TB RAM
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti equivalent or greater
PIXEL SHADER: 5.0
VERTEX SHADER: 5.0
SOUND CARD: DirectX 11 Compatible
FREE DISK SPACE: 5 GB available space
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 1024 MB

[slim yacht]

rtx 30 series is hopefully coming down in price

go upgrade when you have moni
i certainly went broke after i spent too much on sport pants lol

currect

[frozen zenith]

Bro just buy money if you are broke

[slim yacht]

fake money printing syndicate 101

[frozen zenith]

https://www.counterfeitmoneys.com/

[sharp bobcat]

[frozen zenith]

Lol I must be under FBI watch list after opening that site

Btw can you overclock a clock ? Cause my clock runs too slow

The fastest hand only does like 60 ticks per minute

[slim yacht]

yo what the hell this is actually legitt

currently on interpol red watch list lmao after clicking that

[frozen zenith]

It's really cheap tho

Like $5 for $ 100

[slim yacht]

you can tinker with the world gravity
that can automatically overclock your clock

[frozen zenith]

Do the lmg staff ever talk in chat ?

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[manic torrent]

some, occasionally

[frozen zenith]

Anthony has never spoken

[vapid smelt]

you know the mods have logs right

[median idol]

They do it from time to time. From what I've seen, Nick is the most active one of them all

[slim yacht]

usually nickheavy comes around every now and then

[vapid smelt]

every message and edit they can see

[manic torrent]

yeah you're so smooth dude.

are you a pizza cutter? all edge and no point

I mean... I've been married 15 yearsand have a 5yo son

but go off

excellent.

[slim yacht]

my guy is gone

[frozen zenith]

Banned ?

[slim yacht]

kicked maybe

[median idol]

What an absolute twat

[frozen zenith]

But massage delated

[slim yacht]

now im the dominating capybara

[frozen zenith]

Bro you must old

Like linus level old

[dreamy rose]

Yo, Wireless CPU

[manic torrent]

correct, old AF. 41

[dreamy rose]

yall want a Wireless CPU?

[slim yacht]

why would i want that

[frozen zenith]

Linus is 36

[dreamy rose]

All wireless PC.

[frozen zenith]

Without the wires, you have more space for rgb light

[hot loom]

I'm going to be a loser and buy the 4090

[dreamy rose]

spread your PC across the house

[slim yacht]

go for it

[frozen zenith]

Or that too

[hot loom]

Sad thing is I already bought a 3080ti

[slim yacht]

more space for ahem nvm

[manic torrent]

I'll buy it for pennies on the diollar

[slim yacht]

bro your card can last you another 5 years man
dont worry about it

[dreamy rose]

Go for it. we cant tell you what to do, just offer advice.

[frozen zenith]

I'll probably just put the gpu and the cpu on the roof, good air coolin

[dreamy rose]

have fun when the rain shorts your GPU

[frozen zenith]

Wrap it in plastic duh

[slim yacht]

you can have the most powerful gpu right now and it'll still be shit for pubg

[dreamy rose]

there is no cooling if you do that.

[hot loom]

I know, but it gives me an excuse to build a computer for kids at the orphanage I used to work at. But my wallet will scream at me.

[frozen zenith]

Water cooling

[dreamy rose]

i wonder how many PCIE Risers will stop a GPU From working

[hot loom]

When I see double the performance of 3090ti I was just like "ZOO WEE MAMA", you know what I mean?

[frozen zenith]

That's why I never keep my money in a wallet

[slim yacht]

you got scammed dont worry

just stick with your card now

make the kids on the orphanage use 12600k + 3070

[dreamy rose]

hell Nah thats nasty

[hot loom]

I gave them my old i9 9900k and 2070 non super.

I have the 12600k and RTX 3080ti rn

[slim yacht]

thats like the best 1440p setup

apart from 5800x3D of course

[dreamy rose]

Inchell

[hot loom]

My main goal is to have a GPU CPU combo that can run Minecraft shaders with a 512x512 resource pack at 1440p, 165hz

[dreamy rose]

i want GTA 4 at 4K 165Hz

[median idol]

The 3070 is definitely a great 1440p card. Got it for my younger brother to pair it with his 5600X.

[frozen zenith]

I don't know if this is a joke or no but that orphanage has a really good pc

[slim yacht]

[dreamy rose]

imagine Orphanage children on Quest VR Chat.

[wanton glade]

wa

[frozen zenith]

Poor kids would be roasted so hard all day online

[dreamy rose]

the Constant Fatherless Child insults would drive em mad

[hot loom]

It was pretty much just the components of an ibuypower prebuilt I paid like 1600 dollars for. I bought them some Corsair case and put the parts in there because I didn't want them to suffer that shit ass case.

So I kept it and just removed the side panel, and put my new shit in there.

[slim yacht]

and then theyll answer 'yall punk ass be calling me fatherless i didn even have to pay child support'

[wanton glade]

Yeah man, mfs gonna get slapped all day with parents related insults "yo mama is..."

[wanton glade]

aye nice one

[hot loom]

Don't we all?

[frozen zenith]

I want GTA 6 at atleast 240p

[hot loom]

I'd take it a fucking 120P if they'd actually release it already

[frozen zenith]

60p

[median idol]

30p

[frozen zenith]

15p

[wanton glade]

7,5p

[frozen zenith]

3.75p

[wanton glade]

1.875p

0.9375p

lmfao

[frozen zenith]

0.46875p

0.234375p

0.1171875p

0.05859375p

0.029296875p

0.0146484375p

[wanton glade]

Yeah that's a great quality

[full fossil]

hello everyone

[wanton glade]

Much better than 8K gaming 💀

[frozen zenith]

Its better than 0p

[wanton glade]

sup boi

[full fossil]

🤪

[wanton glade]

true

[full fossil]

😐

[wanton glade]

what ?

[full fossil]

😐

[wanton glade]

:(

[full fossil]

nah man all jokes you good

[frozen zenith]

Everyone i meet says I'm very smart

So let me shock you with my smartness

⅛ > 0

[full fossil]

you there bro i was just kidding im sorry

[full fossil]

cool

[wanton glade]

:)

[full fossil]

wait go in tech chat 1 send me your setup i want to rate

[wanton glade]

0,000000000...infinity...0001 > 0

facts

[wanton glade]

aight sure

[serene mantle]

i have a GTX 460 WHDI, https://youtu.be/OVqoEm7VyZs?t=4207 heres me demostrating it

its timestamped to it running a benchmark but this VOD was me tearing down and doing practical demonstrations of some of my rarer GPUs in my collection

i collect rare and obscure tech along with being an extreme overclocker

[frozen zenith]

Yt Boxing
Linus vs MKBHD
how does it sound ?

[full talon]

Does anyone understand ublock . I have been trying to use has text is there away to add exception words so it doesnt block it. Ive tried everything

for example say i wanted it to block egg but not eggs

[main bridge]

Sorry, I don't know what Ublock is.

However, why are computer parts and software so unreliable?

Despite doing a fuck-ton of research on PC parts I bought before I got them, I still had a lot of trouble setting it up.

[slim yacht]

unreliable as in how?

[slim yacht]

im guessing difficulty with building your first pc or?

[main bridge]

A few days ago, it wasn't booting at all because of being stuck in the GPU process of booting.

[main bridge]

Yesterday, I found out that restarting the PC several times worked for some people but for me it required leaving it on overnight and restarting it in the morning..

[sharp bobcat]

is that gb superclocked and also 480 lightning??

[main bridge]

Despite it finally working though, the TV I'm using as a monitor kept randomly disconnecting every few minutes just because of using Gigabyte App Centre to install drivers.

Though, I eventually formatted an SSD that had shit I didn't need to install a fresh copy of Windows 10 on that and we're trying to find a USB with it.

[main bridge]

Look above and that's how my current PC (likely motherboard software) was extremely unreliable.

[serene mantle]

its a 7970 SOC only 200 were made

and yeah 480 lightning

[sharp bobcat]

[serene mantle]

the WHDI was never made in large numbers and is a hard find

and the fish was sold only mostly in china

i am a massive tech collector and these were just some of my pics from my collection

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660489048405704704/980290689613037588/IMG_3594.jpg

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660489048405704704/980290689235562576/IMG_3595.jpg

most of my collection

[sharp bobcat]

u have 780ti lightning?

[serene mantle]

only 780

780ti lightning was never officially public

[sharp bobcat]

yeah

[serene mantle]

and the ones i know where to get are all dead atm

[sharp bobcat]

so far only rginhd who have it

[serene mantle]

i know 2-3 other people who have them

[sharp bobcat]

and o!tech

[serene mantle]

but like i said they are fellow collectors and overclockers and most have died

[sharp bobcat]

yea

I know Lucky_N00b have one too

o!tech have the MOA version, even

[serene mantle]

MOA is more common than the standard variant

MOA had ~30 made only 12 normal ones exist

[sharp bobcat]

28

MOA 28, but yep normal ones 12

[serene mantle]

i recently made a deal for a very ES 1030

[sharp bobcat]

tf
even a card like 1030 have ES?

[serene mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660489048405704704/1007740218343968898/IMG_9522.png?width=489&height=904

to my knowledge its dead, but $30 i cant argue

[sharp bobcat]

[serene mantle]

this was super early ES

[sharp bobcat]

that die lmao

[serene mantle]

my next big want for an ES GPU is one with a hot swap core

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960940043952861244/1020221697342832640/IMG_0170.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960940043952861244/1020222189053681725/IMG_0173.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960940043952861244/1020222189313724486/IMG_0172.png

something like this

[sharp bobcat]

lemme guess it's similar thing like that intel engineering board that linus showed in the intel tour video, but for testing different gpu chip?

also for what generation of chip it was intended for

wait there's GK on it

[serene mantle]

yeah

[sharp bobcat]

kepler board?

[serene mantle]

this one was for kepler

gtx 660

i really like collecting ES stuff for fun

ive got 2 ES motherboards atm

amd z490 and intel z590

and a legitimate handful of ES CPUs

although my ES CPU collection took quite the hit in may when i traded all my sandy bridge 2500k ES cpus when i sold the mobo

[full fossil]

should i have a black keyboard and a white mouse>

or does that look undecorated and sort of bad

[slim yacht]

it wont fit the theme

especially if everything else is muted in color

[full fossil]

thats what i was thinking but the black keyboard is wayyyy better than my current one

[slim yacht]

its fine if your desk is more lively, it depends on your atmosphere

[main bridge]

@slim yacht you gonna read this or?

[slim yacht]

i did read

[slim yacht]

its okay if you already have one
you can match the aesthetic by maybe getting grey mousepad

[glacial basin]

it's all personal preference

[full fossil]

i have a black mousepad

if that fits

[main bridge]

So, what do you think of it? Are computer issues as serious as that common?

[slim yacht]

normally your parts would work out of box, thats why its recommended to test it outside the build first before fully building your system
in your case here seem you got unlucky

[slim yacht]

it should be fine
so long that you who is looking at it wont mind

[main bridge]

Well I can disassemble it quite easily despite being in the case. Though, how can I 100% make sure I don't get a part with issues for so many people next time?

Because for this motherboard, I found out that so many others are having the same issue as me but I never seen that shit when I researched it before buying it..

I checked so many reviews but didn't see that :/

[slim yacht]

you just have to test it out first
theres virtually no way for you to know unless you physically go to a store/ get it in your hand and run it

[main bridge]

Fuck..

Is it possible to refund Gigabyte motherboards because of it being unsatisfactory?

[slim yacht]

you can rma it from the store you bought it from

[main bridge]

Isn't that just getting that replaced?

*getting that replaced

[slim yacht]

either refund from the store (if available) or warranty claim to gigabyte and get it replaced
if it happens again you can probably get a refund

[main bridge]

Oof, I hope I can get a refund if its fucked again.

Though, I don't understand how a company as big as Gigabyte can be so incompetent. What the fuck man.

I wish there was just as much quality control regulation on computers as there are with cars, they can get away with so much shit.

[slim yacht]

you just got unlucky, their product is decent generally
but that doesnt mean qc is perfect to any company

[main bridge]

But they should test every motherboard at least a bit though.. Jesus.

[main bridge]

I forgot to mention this, but the monitor is STILL shutting down after a few minutes so I can't even fucking reinstall Windows..

I'm fucked likely.

[past egret]

wtf is up with the 40 series card brand names

goofy ahh names

[slim yacht]

https://www.zotac.com/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-4090-trinity-oc

them card is thicc sheesh

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4090-GAMING-X-TRIO-24G

these are just ridiculously thicc now lmao

4 slot cards inevitable

[past egret]

SFF guys can only go for the FE ones now

or go all custom loop

[slim yacht]

if evga is still in the game they can go for evga's small form factor gpu's at the top end
but they left

[unreal narwhal]

what

[full fossil]

Soup

[unreal narwhal]

d*d chat lol

[full fossil]

Nope

[unreal narwhal]

gas gas gas

[feral vortex]

mmm

[median idol]

IDK it feels like I'm visiting the circus for GPUs. Especially the Strix card looks in the words of chyrosran22: Hhhhhidddeous

[near nebula]

Probably 5 slot cards with 4090 Ti ba dum tssh!

[past egret]

they all look like offbrand knock offs of each other

[near nebula]

Race to the bottom I guess?

[tired glade]

Lol, 5 slots

[dusky patrol]

I'm with linus partial sponsorships are silly

[median idol]

I think the Aorus Master 4090 is five slots (at least by the looks of it)

[unreal narwhal]

8 messages after 15 mins?

bro

[carmine merlin]

I thought 4 slot cards are for very special cases where you need to overclock the living hell out of your card. But now, it seems to be pretty normal to have a 4 slot card for the 40 series

[tired glade]

They were

[near nebula]

you're probably going to need a MASSIVE, I mean absolutely massive PC tower case to use a 5090

...and I sadly don't think I'm joking on this...

[full fossil]

hello everyone

how is everyone doing today

[tired glade]

5090 can be new Furyx situation

Only liquid cooling

[dreamy rose]

Fuck the ATX formfactor - Nvidia

[near nebula]

~ Probably a year ago.

doing well, Just sighing and pitying those going for a 40 series card as in right this moment

if they need it for productivity, I'm okay with - but it's those who immediately jump on the bandwagon that I'm more concerned of

[carmine merlin]

6090 will just be LN2. anywhere below that, it will overheat

[dreamy rose]

just Wishing i could play some Mario Kart wii on Dolphin emulator

[full fossil]

ok

[dreamy rose]

i actually lost all my Dophin files when my boot drive died

[full fossil]

goodnight everyone

[dreamy rose]

night

[glacial basin]

if the FE is 5 slot I think it's still going to be fine

PCIe x1 wifi cards and sound cards are probably going to die out though

[near nebula]

well, sure, but those trying minimalist FFs will be struggling though

[glacial basin]

yeah

[near nebula]

be sticking out like a sore thumb, AND would risk tearing the slot out of the board

[glacial basin]

styrofoam packaging

[near nebula]

and I highly doubt the bracket would help either

[tired glade]

6090 will be chiller included

[median idol]

Might as well be a full on push/pull design for future RTX cards since one of the AIBs are somewhat already their with it's quad fan gpu

[dreamy rose]

i'm an idiot what does that look like again?

[median idol]

Aight let me post in #screenshots

[fossil dirge]

I want to get the new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080

[past egret]

the poor people version or the middle-class version?

[dreamy rose]

what one? the 4070 or the 4080?

[fossil dirge]

The 4080

[past egret]

so middle class one

[dreamy rose]

there Are Two, Ones literally a 4070, its cut down so it literally is, and the other is a 4080

[fossil dirge]

Yeah

The graphics card I want to go with is the 4080

[dreamy rose]

probably not worth it as much with the untrustworthy numbers they gave us

[past egret]

GN probably have a field day with it

when they get one that is

[dreamy rose]

i think Nvidia probably has some right to be Sued here or smth.

[past egret]

havent released the product yet

[dreamy rose]

idk. they should be at least feeling something negative from it.

[past egret]

they will, when no one buys their cards

[fossil dirge]

I wonder if people are going to price scalp the new NVIDIA graphics cards

[wispy marsh]

I see that 250% transient spike means you will need a 1125w allocated to JUST the 4090 alone.

[dreamy rose]

Alienware buyers are gonna eat this shit up.

[past egret]

AW fucking sucks unless you live under a rock

[fossil dirge]

Alienware is Dell

[wispy marsh]

We don't shame boomers that way.

Which... make up the majority of corporate and young children's purchases

[dreamy rose]

that's the point if me saying such a thing. Alienware Buyers are uneducated fools with poor taste.

[wispy marsh]

I believe that's why dell's rubbish is like a gemstone to the computer illiterate

[fossil dirge]

Dell makes crappy computers

[dreamy rose]

Dell is a Shitcorp

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[wispy marsh]

But to give dell credit, at least you have an extended warranty that comes along with a crappy computer.

[tired glade]

They are making bare minimum computers

[fossil dirge]

I prefer Lenovo computers over Dell

[wispy marsh]

You get nothing back if you get scammed by a 'nigerian prince'

[fossil dirge]

Exactly

[dreamy rose]

more like pay 200 dollars more to swap out a fuckin drive.

[cobalt bloom]

Hi, i would like your guys opinion on whether it would be better to buy the 64gb steam deck and upgrade it or buy the 512gb one

[wispy marsh]

A 4tb nvme will, uh, run you $3999

[tired glade]

512

[fossil dirge]

Get the 512GB one

[dreamy rose]

i'm talking to REPLACE the drive alone

[wispy marsh]

Get the 512GB one

[dreamy rose]

512

[wispy marsh]

At least they're keeping shareholder value high that way

[sonic barn]

64gb then upgrade

[fossil dirge]

I want to get the Steam Deck BTW

[dreamy rose]

only thing it keeps up is the shitty reputation.

[cobalt bloom]

What's the downside of upgrading?

[tired glade]

Isn't high end Steam deck comes with something special?

[dreamy rose]

i think it was an Anti glare display and a Keyboard skin or smth like that

[fossil dirge]

Yes it does

[cobalt bloom]

Yea

[fossil dirge]

Exactly

[past egret]

you also get a cool steam profile theme thing

[sonic barn]

512 is 130$ more than the 64gb and you can definitely get a 500gb Samsung Evo plus for 80$

[tired glade]

Oh,anti glare, that can be handy

[cobalt bloom]

Can't you get anti glare screen protectors?

[tired glade]

Yep

[dreamy rose]

idk though could be wrong

[sonic barn]

Save the 50$ and give me at least 25$

😳

[cobalt bloom]

So you'd essentially save 50 bucks

At that amount of money i think I'd rather just buy the 512

[dreamy rose]

Fastest storage
Premium anti-glare etched glass
Exclusive carrying case
Exclusive Steam Community profile bundle
Exclusive virtual keyboard theme

[tired glade]

Isn't 64gb sd storages?

[sonic barn]

That's one year of discord nitro

[true sigil]

Hey guys random question, does anyone remember which service LTT were sponsored by to manage personal data, a guy from work is asking

sorry to add this out of knowwhere not sure where to ask that

[sonic barn]

Oracle

[tired glade]

Privet something access

[wispy marsh]

I'd like to see you fit a 500gb samsung evo plus into the steam deck

[cobalt bloom]

Its not a regular ssd

It needs a special one

[sonic barn]

Dw I'll cut it

[cobalt bloom]

I found them for 50 quid

[dreamy rose]

pretty sure 64GB is EMMC and expandable VIA SD Card. idk though i heard there was an M.2 slot thats in there.

[wispy marsh]

Heh

[true sigil]

Private internet access? @tired glade

[sonic barn]

Snip snip

[wispy marsh]

Snip snip

[true sigil]

And @sonic barn I'll check that

[tired glade]

Yea,that one

[sonic barn]

Well it's for database which may or may not be ur needs

[tired glade]

So 64 is sd card

[true sigil]

yeah these aren't the ones I was thinking about i'll do some digging, it's a service which shows you which companies have your info and what they have and can delete it for you etc,

[wispy marsh]

Hmm

[true sigil]

Cheers though guys if you do find it I'd appreciate it

[wispy marsh]

I don't remember something like that

Maybe you'd do better on the LTT forums

[true sigil]

Yeah i only saw it maybe once or twice on their vids,

Watch me be wrong and it be a totally different channel lol

[tired glade]

There was video about manipulating person information for buy a ticket

[past egret]

is there a service where it cleans your digital footprint on the internet

[tired glade]

There was about blocking ads on tv

[true sigil]

I'll try find it no worries guys, thanks for the help though

[sonic barn]

Yes it's called faking ur death

Or name change

[sharp bobcat]

backblaze?

also wdym by manage personal data? Is it cloud storage/ backup, something privacy related or something?

[wispy marsh]

Backblaze is data recovery

[sharp bobcat]

I was also thinking about Mine

[wispy marsh]

He means a service to see which company have your personally identifiable data that they use to track you

[sharp bobcat]

Mine

[wispy marsh]

And submit a request to those companies to remove it

What's the link for that?

[sharp bobcat]

brb

https://www.saymine.com/new-home

[wispy marsh]

Is this paid?

[vocal galleon]

Are any of you an expert on PCs.

[manic torrent]

no

[vocal galleon]

🫤

Fr? No joke.

[manic torrent]

OMFG I just found out you can get Qi chargers with a 20mm range. That is absolutely fantastic. This means I can mount them under my desk and have completely wireless mouse and kb

[manic torrent]

I mean... maybe if you had a question, you could just ... ask it.

[vocal galleon]

It feels somewhat unsafe that my computer frees space.

Without any specifications being enabled.

[manic torrent]

I'm sorry you're going to need to be a bit more specific

[vocal galleon]

My disk drive gets space out of nowhere.

Never even made an effort on clean-up.

[carmine merlin]

I mean, some of us are but the vast majority of us aren't. More like we know lots about it but not enough to be considered an expert (I think)

[manic torrent]

I would probably be considered an expert, but I also don't want to be bombarded with questions or set expectations of results

[past egret]

i just spew bullshit until im right

except keyboards, i only know keyboards

[vocal galleon]

So basically, my computer gains memory space.

[dusty rune]

thats so great

[fossil frost]

wouldnt that be incredibly wasteful on power loss?

[vocal galleon]

No clean-ups were made over the past 11 years.

[past egret]

half of the problems featured on this server can be fixed with google in your hands

[manic torrent]

oh no! my power!

[near nebula]

-wait. Zotac literally are pushing out a 5-slot 4090??

[vocal galleon]

Google spews dumb solutions.

[past egret]

if you suck at googling

[manic torrent]

a) what is your computer b) what OS, c) how much space, how often, etc

[vocal galleon]

Apparently, I do. 😰

[past egret]

maybe

[sonic barn]

Fur e

[vocal galleon]

Are you asking me to search like that?

[manic torrent]

..... I'm asking you those questions

[past egret]

like this problem, you said your disk gets free space, now you say your memory gets free space, so which is it?

[vocal galleon]

The former.

[past egret]

no i cant help you with that

[sonic barn]

O w O

U w U

[past egret]

im taking no part of this

[dreamy rose]

wheres the Charging Efficiency tho

[sonic barn]

Knock knock

[manic torrent]

oh no! My mouse and keyboard charging! The effeciencyyyyyyyyy

[dreamy rose]

i'm the one who knocks, not you, Stand down from the door.

[sonic barn]

Answer the joke

I must be cringe

[past egret]

yes

[dreamy rose]

no

[sonic barn]

Knock knock

[past egret]

no

[vocal galleon]

Either my humour's broken or I am too lowdown to understand y'all.

[sonic barn]

Yes

[carmine merlin]

"who cares about efficiency when you can plop your phone on a certain part of the desk and have it charge at 10W" -HardwareBob (maybe)

[dreamy rose]

i will not warn you again, Stand down from the Door.

[sonic barn]

knock knock

[manic torrent]

not phone - mouse and keyboard. It means I will be truly wire free.

[dreamy rose]

thats it Compact Shotguns the shit out of you

[carmine merlin]

how are you gonna power the wireless charger?

[past egret]

arent there like wireless charging desk mats

[vocal galleon]

Be more specific, there are many types of compact shotguns.

[dreamy rose]

Wire free? how are you gonna power the charger then?

[manic torrent]

Hurrrrr. Wire free on the top of the desk where you can SEE it, obviously.

[upbeat ridge]

With ✨magic✨

[carmine merlin]

use a wireless charger to charge the wireless charger

[upbeat ridge]

Duh

[sonic barn]

Can someone answer the joke

[dreamy rose]

Wireless outlet

[manic torrent]

wireless chargers all the way down

[sonic barn]

[past egret]

"wireless mouse"
opens up inside of the mouse
wireful

[vocal galleon]

You are making this more confusing.

[sonic barn]

MOwOUwUse

[upbeat ridge]

nah just avada kedavra that shit

[night heron]

wireless chargers are lit

[vocal galleon]

A wireless mouse has wires.

[manic torrent]

Anyway, I like to have a nicely managed and setup battlestation - and wires for kb/mouse ruin the aesthetic as far as I'm concerned

[night heron]

the only place i have a wired charger is at my bedside table

[past egret]

but it shouldnt

[dreamy rose]

Cringe Alert! he said Battlestation!

[vocal galleon]

Exactly, so who should we blame?

[manic torrent]

...

[night heron]

i use a wireless mouse but i’m not charging a keyboard

[upbeat ridge]

Imagine managing your cables

this post was made by “temporary” gang

[past egret]

its creator

[night heron]

looks like my cable management

[manic torrent]

dude you might be povo AF, but some of us have jobs and stuff and buy things and build stufgf we like

[night heron]

i really need to work on that

[upbeat ridge]

Same

But this is “temporary”

[night heron]

i agree with this comment but it seems pretty random and i don’t think bionic was talking about your income

[dreamy rose]

oh really? so you won't take your Roland on the Go?

[manic torrent]

Bionic is using a computer from the dark ages

[upbeat ridge]

Aka I “will” return my desktop to my room when they’ve replaced the window frames

[night heron]

bionic doesn’t know very much about computers

[dreamy rose]

Correction, the Triassic Period.

[upbeat ridge]

(Probably not, I have more screen space and more internet and less complaints here)

[upbeat ridge]

Damn that looks sick

[night heron]

id love to have a secondary portrait monitor to go alongside my 43” primary

[past egret]

glass desk really?

[night heron]

i just don’t think i have anywhere it’d fit though

[manic torrent]

yes, really

[past egret]

okay

[upbeat ridge]

I mean why not, as long as you’re using a mouse mat with it it’s fine

[night heron]

i’m gonna have bookshelf speakers on either side of the main display instead

[dreamy rose]

smells like "i dropped my side pannel" posts

[manic torrent]

what is your issue with glass desks?

[carmine merlin]

or you're using one of those mice that can track on glass

[fossil frost]

its a desk, it doesnt matter what its made from

[past egret]

not really when youre using a big desk mat, besides it looks a bit old(imo)

[manic torrent]

I mean, it IS old 🙂