public-chat

[hollow zealot]

It's nice when work gives you a car to use

[polar fern]

It’s funny you say that. Around here Amazon has actually purchased vehicles for some of their employees to use to get to their local distribution centres. Some of them work at the distribution centres in the building and some of them are delivery vehicle drivers

[lucid echo]

Uber/Lyft will give you a car in some cities and you pay for the lease by forgoing payment on the first 10 rides each week, regardless of how much you would've been paid. Repairs are free too.

[hollow zealot]

My office is a van
And tbh with how prices are going rn I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes more common
Both working from home and company provided transportation

[polar fern]

it is really interesting how folks see some vans only as a skilled trades utility thing when you can actually make a full mobile office in something such as a sprinter.

You can also go round and look for retired delivery vehicles and convert them into mobile office space.

It’s basically like making them into a camper or RV but instead of sleeping in them you’re just holding meetings and filing reports

[hollow zealot]

I am a tradesman, but I 100% agree. My local tech shop uses an old SUV as a "company" vehicle but I explained to her that an old econline or something would work super well

[polar fern]

Mhm

I mean hey if you can have a mobile pet grooming service you sure as heck can have a desk that you can park places and have some peace and quiet. Not even mentioning the whole pandemic safety thing which is a massive bonus

[hollow zealot]

I've seen mobile offices in vans before too, they're common for construction
Complete with desk and rolly chair

[granite tinsel]

remind me again; when it comes to DIMM slots, do you want to put two sticks into A1 and B1 or A1 and A2?

[polar fern]

I think it depends on the board

[lucid echo]

Start with the slot closest to the CPU, then skip a slot for the next one

Is the general rule of thumb, but transit is right. Read the holy texts

[granite tinsel]

how about an ASrock? asking for a friend 'cause i'm gonna be helping them build a PC

[lucid echo]

Read the holy texts

[granite tinsel]

...ah wait the diagram shows that it's 1-3 and 2-4

[lucid echo]

Can be different even among the same brand

[polar fern]

Usually skipping a slot works regardless, but you could have a board with alternating channels which means you don’t want to skip a slot

[granite tinsel]

yeah that's what i was trying to figure out

[polar fern]

I would just look at the specs for the board usually there is a diagram that you can follow to figure out the slot assignment for the channels

If there are slots on either side of the processor socket then you use the closest one on each side

If it’s all on one side then you should look at the diagram

[proud stump]

I got one!!!!!!! I got a 3090!!! For $700!!!!!

[heady orchid]

no shot

[proud stump]

Uh uh it's in transit

[heady orchid]

from where

[proud stump]

Ebay

[heady orchid]

good luck

[ocean narwhal]

$500 3080 WEN

[proud stump]

I can't wait I'm finally gonna have a custom I got the ryzen 7 Rog motherboard and the case

[heady orchid]

is 750w enough for a 5800x + 3080 ?

[ocean narwhal]

yes (?)

[proud stump]

Probably

[heady orchid]

thanks newegg https://i.imgur.com/f3lm838.png

[polar fern]

You got it from eBay? Is it from a mining rig?

[proud stump]

As long as your not overclocking

[proud stump]

Yeah but whatever

[polar fern]

When you get it don’t use it right away you’re going to want to clean the dust out and check the fans. Make sure you clean the dust out in a vented area or outside

[proud stump]

They had a titan v but I wanted the 3090

[proud stump]

Noted

[heady orchid]

i mean 5800x is already high performance out of the box already so i dont think ill OC it

[polar fern]

Basically you’re going to want to clean it and treat it with suspicion until it has been running for a few weeks with no problems. If the thermal paste has an issue or the fans are worn out you can re-paste the heat sink and you can also replace the fans.

[wintry dagger]

ordered my water bottle for my tech class damn ltt waterbottles are expensive

42 bucks after shipping

[polar fern]

Actually no they’re not. You can easily buy a more expensive water bottle & it not be as good

[wintry dagger]

well im used to 10 dollar walmart special ones

is it all metal?

I needed a waterbottle and I liked the colors so I bought one

[polar fern]

Yeah it’s all metal

[echo ridge]

Depends

[wintry dagger]

actually not bad for 40 bucks nvm if its all metal

[dusky patrol]

Are they gonna post the Dennis linus fight on yt or make it a floatplane exclusive?

[polar fern]

From what I can see the vacuum is also pretty good so there’s not a lot of thermal loss

[wintry dagger]

I mean I use a 3900x with a 3070 both overclocked to the point just before artifacts appear

[proud stump]

Should I go water cooling on it or stick with air because my old computer had a 2060 and it was running 78 degrees in bf5

[wintry dagger]

air is more reliable

[echo ridge]

Wasn't it 2 and 4 rule of thumb

[wintry dagger]

air for function over form, aio for prettyness

[ocean narwhal]

How tf do people sell broken 3080ti for $400. Can some people actually somehow revive these cards into functioning things

[polar fern]

As long as the case is properly vented and there is proper flow you can air cool all day long

[wintry dagger]

yeah somehow

people fix them up and sell them

[heady orchid]

explain

[echo ridge]

A bad unit that can't handle the spikes will just die

[ocean narwhal]

Like ive seen some videos of some maniacs with expensive hot air stations and other equipment replacing entire gpu dies but i cant believe there's that many people out there that know how to do it to justify $400

[echo ridge]

Lot of the seasonic couldnt

[lucid echo]

Depends on if the die is cracked or a VRM needs replacement

[wintry dagger]

but if you do fix it thats 350 dollar profit

[polar fern]

Well if you invest in that stuff and then you repair and sell 10 of those cards you’ve made your money back

[lilac sage]

depends whats broken. If its something on the GPU die itself its DoA, however, there are many cases where its a VRM or power delivery issue which can be easily solved

[polar fern]

And honestly I think it’s very cool that people are willing to keep those cards out of the landfill

[wintry dagger]

I use a 750w lian li one and it works fine. I once had my friends 3080 in there to see (id like to upgrade to a 3080 once 4000 series is out) and it handled it fine

[ocean narwhal]

Right so the risk vs reward and supply of busted cards vs demand from repairpeople somehow ends up at $400, crazy to me

[echo ridge]

If one half is fixable iyou can make profits

[proud stump]

Then is my noctua equped heatsync gonna be enough for a ryzen7 and a 3090 with out a mesh front panel or should I get a different case

[wintry dagger]

itll be fine

I use a 3900x with a hyper212 I cant imagine for a hyper212 to be better than noctuas offering

[polar fern]

You’re gonna want a case with mesh or open grill on at least three sides

[rustic crown]

the h212 isnt great on zen 2+ chips

bc the offset heat output

[wintry dagger]

75 degrees full load is pretty good imo

thats after a heavy overclock too

[rustic crown]

vs the 56 i get one my chips

[ocean narwhal]

hyper 212 is so fucking old

[proud stump]

I kinda wanna make my own case I'm a welder how hard could it be

[rustic crown]

bc 2 dies

[wintry dagger]

I got it for 20 bucks bc I want an aio but im saving

[ocean narwhal]

fair

[wintry dagger]

my cpu came used so it didnt come with a cooler

[ocean narwhal]

Eventually i want to make a custom itx case out of 3d printed parts and wood primarily

[wintry dagger]

I mean you could but dont expect it to be pretty

cases are complex

[proud stump]

Well il see I might just cut the front off my old cooler master and make a tiki face with a opening in the eyes and mouth

For air

But then I'd have to evict my nas

[wintry dagger]

doesnt sound great for airflow but it'd look cool

[proud stump]

Well il see I gotta wait still for my ram power supply and fans I got 6 noctua 120mm fans coming from Amazon

[rustic crown]

So i got a i5 9400 for free, is it worth getting a board for it?

[proud stump]

If you see one for a good price do it

[rustic crown]

think its like 55 usd

for some b365

[proud stump]

What ru useing?

Right now

[rustic crown]

something way better

2950x

[wintry dagger]

2950x is way better

I'd take it and then sell it

[rustic crown]

i just got the cpu for free so idk

[wintry dagger]

plex server or something?

[rustic crown]

i dont know if it works,i have a 9100 as well

[proud stump]

I don't know anything about intel I'm a amd guy

[rustic crown]

i also have a 2600x

[wintry dagger]

ive been intel the whole time until I got my 3900x

better value for money

[rustic crown]

the intel tax was real when i built, i payed the same as a 9900k for my 2950x

[wintry dagger]

9900k is still good but 2950x is way better

doesnt the 2950x have 16 cores?

because dont all 950 amd chips have 16?

[proud stump]

I got a 5300 in a pre-built and I'm more than happy with it as my daily

[rustic crown]

its 16/32

[wintry dagger]

ah

[rustic crown]

made up of 8/16(x2)

[wintry dagger]

I wanna get a 5950x once prices drop bc im at a cpu bottleneck atm

[proud stump]

I got a ryzen 7 5000 series that's going into the custom

[wintry dagger]

nice

[granite tinsel]

so jayz just said that the "4080 12GB" is actually AD104

[rustic crown]

its a scam

simple as that, it should be a 4070ti

[granite tinsel]

not even; this is a 4070

[placid crest]

Ada Lovelace going to be interesting.

[wintry dagger]

wtf https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad104.g1013 are the 4060 and the 4070 even announced yet?

[rustic crown]

nvidia is going to have a fun time with this

[granite tinsel]

lovelace is going to go down in history with the likes of fermi, bulldozer, and rocket lake

[rustic crown]

bulldoazer has one redeaming factor

[proud stump]

You don't even need more than 8gb in gameing it's a rendering graphics card that's reused for gameing

[wintry dagger]

im gonna get a 4070 if I ever get 40 series although I might just get a 3090 bc im assuming the 3090s price will tank

[rustic crown]

it will literally clock to the moon

[granite tinsel]

there's a use case for it if you're playing 1440p high settings or especially 4K

[wintry dagger]

I use 8gb at 1080

[rustic crown]

i hit 12gb at 1600p all the time

[proud stump]

Well I got my 3090 for $700

[wintry dagger]

tf kind of resolution is that

[rustic crown]

2560x1600

[proud stump]

So prices are droping

[wintry dagger]

ah

[granite tinsel]

ah, so 16:10 aspect

[wintry dagger]

thats it?

[rustic crown]

yep

[wintry dagger]

I got my 3070 for 550

[proud stump]

Yhea

[rustic crown]

i got my 2080 super for 400 shipped

[granite tinsel]

i got my 6800XT for MSRP back in february 2021

[proud stump]

It's a 3090ti

[rustic crown]

my 150w 2080 super

[wintry dagger]

I should have got a 2080 but I run raytracing alot so

[granite tinsel]

which was $1070 CAD... i think that's about $700 USD--it was an AIB model

[rustic crown]

its just a laptop gpu glued to a desktop board

[hearty spear]

there's a 6700XT on amazon right now for 369$

[granite tinsel]

yeah the 6700XT is fucking killing it with the value proposition

[proud stump]

Considering they were $2000 for sometime I'd say $700 for a cuting edge gpu is dam good

[granite tinsel]

$370 3070 with worse raytracing and no DLSS

[rustic crown]

dlss is dead

[granite tinsel]

i think DLSS 2.0 will be it yeah

[rustic crown]

nvidia messed up by not making it open for everyone

[granite tinsel]

DLSS 3.0 is gonna be DOA being stuck on these awful GPUs that everyone's shitting on

[wintry dagger]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165683711570?hash=item269384ce52%3Ag%3ANMIAAOSwapljKKIp&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoPyWkLS%2BpCtMi8cwZOmEgO4hfXxqC7IHNL0Tb9wsav4R0M4Q%2FjWorCOGXYFU%2FpX8%2F1nhR0pSJKVXakg%2FFM5nO18kchrscr7dr7fHjI2o2SluJ1igq%2BOjZqp51m7eCcGr3Jtwzk28cW%2BntSMdlr%2FTEr7GF0vyvQXLr8t29MoBWexT87gMhhkSdmhqutYm1vEgfjzIWyD1jS6mCHI%2FvMJ4DiQ%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4iH_Z_sYA&LH_BIN=1 damn only 700

[proud stump]

Yeah that's what I got

[rustic crown]

amd won by supporting the Xbone and paystation

[wintry dagger]

I like dlss because it looks the same but with like 20% better perf

xbone

[proud stump]

But mines a 3090ti

[wintry dagger]

WHY

[proud stump]

Because

[rustic crown]

also amd supports intle and nvidia with its api

[wintry dagger]

a 3090ti is like a 3090 but with like 5% better perf

for like 400 bucks more

[proud stump]

It was the same price

[rustic crown]

also kicks out more heat

[proud stump]

$735 with shipping

[rustic crown]

idk how ppl can take 400w gpus

[wintry dagger]

I refuse to go amd because I have history with them

[granite tinsel]

and they only got that contract because they were the only company that could make a powerful enough CPU and GPU on the same substrate

[rustic crown]

nvidia picked a fight with ms and sony

[granite tinsel]

they still are; at least until intel gets arc's shit together

[rustic crown]

and lost both

[granite tinsel]

that too

[proud stump]

I love amd cheap reliable good performance

[granite tinsel]

it's not really a coincidence that nvidia has worked with every major console maker once and only once

[rustic crown]

i keep hearing that nintendo may go amd + samsung

[granite tinsel]

microsoft with the original xbox, sony with the PS3, and i bet it's gonna happen to nintendo with the switch

[rustic crown]

nvidia only won the contract bc no one wanted its pos tegra chips

[granite tinsel]

what kinda history?

[proud stump]

I was ether going 3090 or dual radeon I want 200fps in gta

[rustic crown]

for the og bone they kept under supplying MS

[ocean narwhal]

6900xt or 3080 for $500 wen

[granite tinsel]

well that and also nintendo tends to make peculiar choices hardware-wise

[fluid ridge]

well yeah considering its less than half the performance of the 4090, its priced less than half

[granite tinsel]

Wii U Momento

[proud stump]

3080

[ocean narwhal]

not quite there yet

[rustic crown]

they were selling the chips so cheap that nintendo couldnt say no

[granite tinsel]

aaaaaaah makes sense

nintendo cares a lot about production costs

[ocean narwhal]

if 6900xt ever drops down to $500 imma scoop one up real quick

one that fits in my case, that is

[proud stump]

Intel will fall once zen 6 comes out

[fluid ridge]

LOL

amd will fall when intel gen 27 comes out

i predict the 27900K will clap zen 12 mark my words

[proud stump]

Doubt they have all the major contracts

The US military will use amd

Xbox Playstation probably Nintendo evga

[fluid ridge]

huffing the copium

[granite tinsel]

lol remember how apple just fucking cut nvidia out of their entire ecosystem in one fell swoop

just took away all of the nvidia drivers

[proud stump]

dude face it intel is the bellow amd right now

[granite tinsel]

intel's still on the back foot but they're working to get it together again

12th-gen was good

[proud stump]

unless they give microsoft i9's for the next xbox for a dime a dozen there dead

the last time I've seen a intel in a server was before epic came out

[granite tinsel]

i wouldn't call them done for just yet but i can see where you're coming from

[proud stump]

nah its hard to kill a major brand but they will be in my predictions less than 45% of the market by 2030

[granite tinsel]

probably

i think both intel and nvidia are going to be hurting for vertical integration when squaring off against apple and AMD

at least until arc gets its shit together

[proud stump]

doesnt appel use intel?

[granite tinsel]

...if it gets its shit together

[rustic crown]

the government uses IBM atm

[granite tinsel]

not since 2020; they've scaled up their mobile SoCs for desktops and laptops to surprisingly great effect

[rustic crown]

POWER 10

[granite tinsel]

also yeah if intel arc gets its shit together because i heard a rumour that they're actually killing off the line

[ocean narwhal]

intel is p much vertically de-integrating

[proud stump]

ima laugh if intel losses apple

[ocean narwhal]

reaching out to other fabs

[granite tinsel]

no they have already

[proud stump]

rilly?????

[granite tinsel]

it's over already; apple has made a hard break from x86 entirely

[proud stump]

damm

[ocean narwhal]

u never heard of M1 macbook?

[granite tinsel]

there's still some intel-powered macs from before 2020 being sold but they'll be gone in due time

every new mac is powered by apple silicon

every last one of them

[rustic crown]

intel just kept pushing clocks to make up for lost node

[proud stump]

they made there own cpu?

[granite tinsel]

their own system-on-chip

[ocean narwhal]

licensed from arm, but customized heavily

[rustic crown]

ya its made by TSMC and designed by apple

[granite tinsel]

so that's CPU/GPU/RAM/etc/etc/etc

[proud stump]

ok i see

[rustic crown]

irl Zen is a SOC

[granite tinsel]

the apple M series; look it up

i've got an ipad powered by one LOL

[proud stump]

il have to

[granite tinsel]

the performance of it is incredible too

[rustic crown]

if you want fun, amd K12

[proud stump]

is it good?

[granite tinsel]

actually yes, very good

[rustic crown]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_K12

[granite tinsel]

though only in specific tasks

[ocean narwhal]

As a laptop chip, it is absolutely nuts

[proud stump]

dang i might have to get a iphone to try it

[ocean narwhal]

I honestly prob would have gone mac if they launched it before i got my laptop

[proud stump]

i havent owned one sence 2017

[granite tinsel]

iphones don't have them

you'll need an ipad air or better

[proud stump]

ok

[granite tinsel]

all the macbooks have them btw

[proud stump]

i just got a Alienware laptop so il get one eventually

[granite tinsel]

lemme quickly run down each of apple's desktop chips and where you'll find 'em

[rustic crown]

i woudlnt have gotten a mac bc the keyboards just suck

[proud stump]

god i accedently opened pics on my desktop now my nas is on all i hear is hardrives

[rustic crown]

yall have nas's?

[proud stump]

id move it down stairs but I don't have long enough cords

[robust fossil]

For the Odessy g9 are you able to split it into 3 screens?

[granite tinsel]

M1: imac 24", mac mini, ipad air, ipad pro, macbook air (2020), macbook pro (13-inch 2020)
M1 pro (M1 with more GPU cores): macbook pro (14-inch, 16-inch)
M1 max (M1 with even more GPU cores): macbook pro (14-inch, 16-inch), mac studio
M1 ultra (two M1 maxes fused together): mac studio
M2: macbook air (2022), macbook pro (13-inch 2022)

[proud stump]

i need to so i can sync my cad files for work

[granite tinsel]

that's apple's current SoC lineup

[proud stump]

thanks

[granite tinsel]

np!

[rustic crown]

i just host VAULT on my server and that only needs like 80gb

[granite tinsel]

i might've made a mistake or two i'm not too sure about the 2020 air and 13-inch pro

[rustic crown]

my laptop was in a dumpster

dell e5550, i5 5300u, 16gb ddr3l, 240gb ssd

[proud stump]

all my data is stored on it mostly cad files and old vedo recordings from a youtube channel that didnt work out

[proud stump]

currently in useing a ryzen 5 3600 with a rtx3080 with corsair domminator ram and a rog motherboard and an 1000w sesonic powersupply for work

[rustic crown]

this is my school laptop, your comparing a truck to a motor bike

[proud stump]

for home a amd 5300 apu with a radeon 5500xt corsair vengance 16 gig kit and a 500w sesonic power supply

[granite tinsel]

my "laptop" is a 5th-gen ipad pro with an M1, 16GB RAM, and 2TB internal storage

[rustic crown]

my desktop is a 2950x 32gb ddr4 3200, vega FE 2tb nvme 500gb sata ssd, 12tb hdd

[proud stump]

wich im upgradeing to a ryzen7 5000 serires with 32 gigs or corsair vengance ram 1500w sesonic power supply and 3090ti from msi and a asus mother board

[rustic crown]

i had to suffer with a ipad pro 9,7 for hs

[granite tinsel]

my desktop is a 5900X, 64GB 3200MHz, 6800XT, and with four drives i don't feel like listing out exhaustively; just know i have 4.5TB total

[proud stump]

i have 100tb total includeing my nas

[rustic crown]

idk how you would use that much

[proud stump]

cad files at high res

each one is like 10 gigs

[rustic crown]

my cad files dont contain image data so they are super small

[proud stump]

its dumb

[rustic crown]

they are math based so they just list point data for the structure

[proud stump]

mine are immage files work payed for it so thats what i got lol

[rustic crown]

inventor is just different

powered by pixie dust

[proud stump]

i cant go into detail for
"legal resons" but yhe it uses a lot of storage files

[rustic crown]

a robot (fully working) is about 13gb

with everything needed for it

[proud stump]

i need to keep 3 coppys for redundancey 2 to the nas one to the computer

its just policy i dont make it i just follow it

[rustic crown]

we keep 1 local one server one backup

[proud stump]

yhe same basicly its only like 20% full wich is still 20tb so

but ive worked there for 3 years

[rustic crown]

4 years of projects put it at 79gb

[proud stump]

do you compress the files ?

[rustic crown]

nope

[proud stump]

hmm well idk

[rustic crown]

bc its data not models it doesnt compress

think of it as a 3d vector

[proud stump]

ok i get you

[rustic crown]

any texture data just gets made into a simpled texture map

[digital crest]

Why 40 series so expensive

[stoic beacon]

Same price as 30 series

[digital crest]

Not really

[stoic beacon]

Cheaper, actually

[vapid smelt]

Wdym 1600 cheap af

[digital crest]

30 was miners and what not raising the price, the msrp is off this year

[stoic beacon]

Go check launch price of 30 series.

[rustic crown]

bc jenson needs a new coat every day

[digital crest]

Checked, 4090 is more expensive

[stoic beacon]

How do you figure?

[digital crest]

Haha probably

[vapid smelt]

Including inflation

[digital crest]

Because 1599 > 1499

[stoic beacon]

Now go find an inflation calculator

[rustic crown]

also anything past 650 usd is a scam

[stoic beacon]

Run the numbers again

[digital crest]

Na not playing those games

[rustic crown]

based on the 9700 pro

[stoic beacon]

Go elsewhere for your echo chamber needs.

[glacial mesa]

any vpn users who download movies here need recommendations

[digital crest]

If you play them games it should be cheaper every year when they keep price same

[stoic beacon]

Not sure if you don't understand basic economics or basic math. Either way. Geez, you are cringy as hell.

The price did go down this year.

[digital crest]

Yea right...

[vapid smelt]

You don't need a VPN to download movies from Amazon prime video

[digital crest]

You're straight up intolerable

[glacial mesa]

🏴‍☠️ i meant pirate

[stoic beacon]

Mad because I called you out on your incorrect statements, sounds about right 👍

[rustic crown]

if the card is more than 650 its past the price of a 9700

[vapid smelt]

The thing that's against the rules to talk about in here

[rustic crown]

a card that allmost bankrupted nvidia

[digital crest]

Na I'm not mad. You're triggered dude

[amber spindle]

Are these any good? I know the company is usually good I think but idk about specific models
Sennheiser G4ME ONE Open, Acoustic PC Gaming Headset, Black https://a.co/d/cjHaca8

[rustic crown]

we have a dumb fight

[echo ridge]

I still disagree with the pricing of the 4080

[digital crest]

Yea this guy is being all financial advisor over here

[echo ridge]

I'm not mad your mad

But banana your fucking stupid

[night heron]

[amber spindle]

You're

[rustic crown]

i wouldnt spend 1/4 the cost of my car on a gpu

[vapid smelt]

I disagree with the 4080 12gb, the 4080 16gb should cost the same as the 4090 12gb

[digital crest]

People getting excited because the 40 series is more expensive

[stoic beacon]

I'm excited because it's less expensive.

[vapid smelt]

Technically it's cheaper

[rustic crown]

for me the max id go to is the cost of a 9700 pro ajusted

399 in 2002

or 650 usd as of 2022

[night heron]

my max would just depend on however much money i made

[rustic crown]

that 650 would get me a 6800 xt

[digital crest]

That's why the inflation calculator is just trying to justify the ceos new jacket

[stoic beacon]

The inflation calculator is just pointing out that it's cheaper.

[digital crest]

🍿

[echo ridge]

Honestly imo the 4080 should be a 4070 and the 4080 16gb should take the pricing of the 12gb or a bit more

[echo ridge]

Losing a jacket

[rustic crown]

i wish raja would get x^E out the door

[vapid smelt]

Back in the day you could buy a candy bar for 5 cents I guess that means today's candy bars are over priced

[stoic beacon]

Yup, I should never have to pay more than 5 cents for a candy bar

[rustic crown]

id link the nvidia price over time chart

[stoic beacon]

Where's my raise to $45 an hour at?

[rustic crown]

but i cant post images here

[echo ridge]

A house should be 10k take it or leave it

[night heron]

that would be nice

[stoic beacon]

Anybody paying more than 10k for a house is just buying real estate agents new jackets.

[manic torrent]

Affordable housing is 3x the gross yearly wage.

[echo ridge]

Only

Meanwhile in vancouver

The cheapest house is 1.5mil

[manic torrent]

I live in Melbourne, you don't need to tell me about ridiculous real estate prices

[vapid smelt]

2 bedroom house is 450k usd here in my area

That Same house was 120k in 2016

[echo ridge]

Ok boberawdrah

[digital crest]

Ironic

[vapid smelt]

It's like most Aussie live in the south east of the island 😅

[echo ridge]

Did you know most Canadians live south of the 49th parallel

[digital crest]

Where is thanos when you need him

[manic torrent]

Australia is very large.... But yeah, population is very condensed 🙂

[heady orchid]

https://i.imgur.com/yPWRLcd.png which one should i buy

modmesh or modflex cablemod cables

theyre the same price on amazon

[manic torrent]

Yes

[tribal compass]

Anyone else at 91% to steamdeck purchase?

[molten drift]

Nope I'm at 0%

[night heron]

-1%

[vapid smelt]

I got mine last week

[hearty spear]

I'm on the 50/50 to get one at some point.

but right now, finances aren't there to drop 600 bucks

[vapid smelt]

I got a sick steam deck setup, a new case that can hold a foldable keyboard and slim bt mouse

[hearty spear]

the vast majority of Canuckistanians live within like 50 or 75 Miles of the US Border

[full fossil]

good morning everyone

[night heron]

gm

[slim yacht]

morning

[molten drift]

Stop putting on productions of rocky horror then lol

[fossil dirge]

Nice

I want to get the Steam Deck

Hopefully I get it for Christmas

[vapid smelt]

2023 Christmas

[fossil dirge]

Really

That’s a way long time

[vapid smelt]

Unless you already ordered it all shipments are by the end of this year

[placid glacier]

Remember that time you called your teacher mom by accident? Boy, was that embarrassing

[vapid smelt]

5th grade Ms seamans class

[placid glacier]

I already own a decent desktop and a Switch myself, I don't really see much of a point in a Deck

Whatever I might want to do with a Deck, I can kinda already do

[vapid smelt]

Import all you switch games to the steam deck

[placid glacier]

I can't play online though, can I?

[vapid smelt]

Then you can play PC and Nintendo games in the go

[ocean narwhal]

lmao paying for nintendo online service

[vapid smelt]

Forgot Nintendo had online games ngl

[placid glacier]

The Deck is kinda nice, but it's squeezed between two circles in my mental Venn diagram

[heady orchid]

I didnt get a definite answer earlier so is 750w enough to run 5800X + 3080?

[modest sierra]

how many games actually support the steam deck?

[vapid smelt]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/steam-deck-verified-games/?amp

[vapid smelt]

Few hundred

[placid glacier]

I should think so, I recently ran a much more powerful build through a PSU calculator, the TDP of those two together don't even reach 500W

[modest sierra]

why is that website so zoomed in or is it just me

[graceful burrow]

Most
Even if they're listed as unsupported there's likely ways to get them to work

[placid glacier]

Now you do want more than 500W for your other components plus headroom, but 750W should be plenty

[graceful burrow]

They might just work fine out the box kek
Only one game I tried on mine didn't work
Sonic all stars racing is a subpar experience even on regular pc so

Not to mention
You can run other game stores too with a smidge of work

[placid glacier]

If it runs on Linux it probably runs on Deck, except maybe for the most demanding games (and even some of those will run well enough)

[ocean narwhal]

proton

[graceful burrow]

Cyberpunk runs at native res 30fps

[placid glacier]

Proton is really good nowadays

[graceful burrow]

Pretty well actually

You kinda gotta search for games that outright don't run nowadays

[rare yacht]

my fortnite runs at 30 fps and i have a 1050 ti

[vapid smelt]

Parsec works on the steam deck so you can remote into your PC and play anything

[placid glacier]

And those that won't usually have kernel-space anti-cheat, which can be easily enabled for Proton by the developer but not everyone does that

[graceful burrow]

Just steam remote play them

You can remote play non-steam games easily

[placid glacier]

A game not being playable on Linux is basically a choice, and not even a financial choice since Valve and Co made it just that easy

[vapid smelt]

I was surprised how easy dolphin emulator was on the steam deck

[placid glacier]

I used Heroic to install Kingdom Hearts 3 and then Steam remote played it on my Android TV

[graceful burrow]

Since when do you own a deck

[vapid smelt]

Since last week

[placid glacier]

KITTY!

[vapid smelt]

Luna likes it to

[placid glacier]

Play Stray on it with your cat!

[graceful burrow]

How do you find it's performance for being a 400 dollar handheld

[vapid smelt]

Have a slim folding keyboard and slim mouse and a new carrying case for it

[vapid smelt]

Fucking amazing

[graceful burrow]

I categorize it as "exceeds all expectations extremely easily"

[vapid smelt]

It's not even loud too

[fossil dirge]

I heard that the Steam Deck is a very good handheld

[graceful burrow]

Nope
Speakers are way better than I expected them to be too
That's the fist thing that jumped out at me, how great the speakers are

[placid glacier]

400 dollars is what I expect a disposable laptop that barely runs Word to cost

[graceful burrow]

Price to performance and usability it's unbeatable

[weak fox]

depends to what volume settings you use 😎

[fossil dirge]

I want to get one

[weak fox]

ok, do it 😎

[manic torrent]

I want to get one too. I have no real use case for it, but it's cool 🙂

[vapid smelt]

My at work gaming setup

[graceful burrow]

Aus tho rip

[fluid ridge]

*breaks steam deck
*throws cat outside

[weak fox]

looks good 😎

[fluid ridge]

i think a gaming laptop would be better than a steam deck

[graceful burrow]

And would cost well over twice the price

[fluid ridge]

that is true

[placid glacier]

Try thrice if not more

[graceful burrow]

You cannot beat this price to performance

[weak fox]

my laptop sucks

😎

[fluid ridge]

parsec into gaming desktop

[vapid smelt]

This folding keyboard was a great purchase

[placid glacier]

This is the price of a shitty laptop that dies as soon as you turn it on

[fluid ridge]

boom, 3000 dollar gaming computer

[weak fox]

true 😎

[graceful burrow]

You should 3d print a charger holder that slips into the back of the case

[weak fox]

i dont even bother with portables 😎

[vapid smelt]

I only use the steam controller when I play super Mario sunshine

[weak fox]

i got a rtx 3060 ti 😎

[fluid ridge]

i got a 4090

[vapid smelt]

I just bought a jsaux $27 carrying case with a basement compartment that holds the mouse keyboard and charger

[weak fox]

i got a 69420 😎

[fluid ridge]

weak sauce compared to chad nvidia

[graceful burrow]

Wouldn't mind their dock tbh

[vapid smelt]

I have the dock to but it's too big to carry along, Every day for work

[weak fox]

your lucky you dont have autocorrect 😎

[placid glacier]

Speaking of controllers and GameCube games, I'm of half a mind to create a GameCube style DualShock 4 controller, I could probably do it

[graceful burrow]

You're*

[placid glacier]

But then again I don't own a PS4, I just use PlayStation Plus and only for 1 or 2 games for now

[weak fox]

your 😎

[ocean narwhal]

give the cat the deck

now

[weak fox]

ayo 😎

[vapid smelt]

Once I get my slim 30watt Anker charger I will have the ultimate deck setup, only con is the LG fast charger I have now is too weak

[fluid ridge]

apparently sony got sued for secretly giving facebook crunchyroll user data

[weak fox]

you could root a ps4 to get linux on it. then you could get win 10. 😎

[fluid ridge]

i would not trust sony

[weak fox]

y 😎

[fluid ridge]

read above

[ocean narwhal]

who doesn't

[graceful burrow]

30w isn't on par with what it comes with
That being said iirc max whole system draw at full tilt is 30w so it should be able to keep up, but charging would be slow

[weak fox]

cool. good thing i aint a weeb 😎

[ocean narwhal]

every company is sharing ur data left and right to different companies

[fluid ridge]

well i am

good thing i am more than willing to give my personal information and money away for anime

lucky for sony

[placid glacier]

That comment was in regards to my controller idea, the idea isn't really worth it when I would only play 1 or 2 games with it

If I ever get a PS4 or PS5 I think I will make a GameCube style controller for it

[vapid smelt]

Yeah 40watt is the stock one if I recall right but 30watts should up my 2 hour battery life

[weak fox]

and either way if you use google or iphone your data is ours. i would get kaly linux its a linux phone 😎

[graceful burrow]

45w*

[fluid ridge]

only safe linux distro is ubuntu

[weak fox]

you could switch between ps4 and desktop 😎

[fluid ridge]

only one with secureboot support

the rest are sus

[ocean narwhal]

ur trolling right

[weak fox]

it is ubuntu i think 😎

[fluid ridge]

no

[tribal compass]

I wish our god Linus would show his glorious face in here 🙂

[placid glacier]

Maybe I should do a small Indygogo for that controller idea to at least make it worth it financially, just for a couple of controllers and a 3D printer, and then open source my CAD files and instructions and stuff

[weak fox]

no 😎

[ocean narwhal]

What makes ubuntu better than any open source distro

[fluid ridge]

because it has secureboot support

[tribal compass]

Anyone watching better call Saul in here?

[fluid ridge]

its not a sus imposter unlike stuff like mint and popOS

[tribal compass]

I’m on season 2

[fluid ridge]

better call eren yeager

[weak fox]

oh and btw kaly phone is open source 😎

[vapid smelt]

Ankers 45w charger is .75inch thick the 30w is 0.63inches thick. If only the case was a bit deeper

[fluid ridge]

open source doesnt mean its secure

[slim yacht]

i mean any distro is safe by nature
having secure boot does not make it any better

[fluid ridge]

only secureboot means its secure

[weak fox]

yeah but it means you can check through the source if its secure 😎

[fluid ridge]

i aint reading 3.8 million lines of code

[slim yacht]

so basically youre a simpleton so secure boot is your best bet

[weak fox]

well people probably already did this phone is widely known. 😎

[sonic barn]

crypto died

[fluid ridge]

no i just dont use sus opersting systems

[weak fox]

lets goooo 😎

[fluid ridge]

i am not the imposter

[slim yacht]

does that mean you dont use a phone?

[weak fox]

its all in your head 😎

[fluid ridge]

my phone uses secureboot

[weak fox]

its a linux phone 😎

[fluid ridge]

it is ios after all, the most secure OS out there

[slim yacht]

if youre on ios, its not even linux to begin with

[fluid ridge]

yeah which makes it not sus

[ocean narwhal]

To say that your iphone is not sus

[slim yacht]

youre on an operating system connected to a network
anything of that nature is sus

[ocean narwhal]

what the hell are you on

ios is literally the most glowing irradiated software you can get

[fluid ridge]

my phone is space gray, not red

it cant be sus by definition

[slim yacht]

this time sus is space gray

[fluid ridge]

wrong

[ocean narwhal]

the only thing that glows more than ios is standing inside the pentagon

[fluid ridge]

at least i have secureboot

[weak fox]

you could also use GrapheneOS it blocks everything google related 😎

[fluid ridge]

graphene no secureboot os

[slim yacht]

tesla ditched it long ago and we know why

[ocean narwhal]

at least you have a direct pipe to give tim apple your location and literally all activity to

all hail tim apple

[weak fox]

kaliOS blocks google trackers but you can still use youtube. 😎

[ebon otter]

Is this stupid? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ColinPC565556/saved/#view=shnBqs

[ocean narwhal]

looks like you just sorted by high price

[ebon otter]

That’s Corsair tax at its finest

[slim yacht]

i can argue that kali is much more safer than secure boot enabled os since you actually can monitor and control network traffic

and the system itself as well

[weak fox]

yeah its cool 😎

i give up with the sunglasses emoji

this has gone too far 😎

[heady orchid]

Newegg said 700-799w

So im tryna make sure i can run it

[sonic barn]

elon was cool before crypto

then he made people lose money with dogecoin and such

kept promoting it long after too

[manic torrent]

elon was never cool

[median idol]

I always saw Elon as sort of a tool TBH. His Twitter reeks of "how do you do, fellow kids"

[manic torrent]

certainly, regardless of what/who he was/has done before, he's currently ... unhinged.

[weak fox]

i wonder why people dont use vr for multiple monitors without paying for multiple monitors. like you can have as many virtual screens as you want in vr.

and then you could get a LG keyboard that supports vr then you can also type in vr

like imagen in vr you have all of this 3d space to use for anything and people are wasting actual space with multiple monitors instead of getting the same or even more monitors but in vr

[slim yacht]

people be dreaming crypto will become an actual exchange currency while it will be near impossible to do so

[weak fox]

the only reason i see crypto as good is because it is untracable. but everything else crypto sucks

[manic torrent]

wrong. Some crypto is untraceable, but bitcoin for example is psuedonymous

[weak fox]

define psudonymous

[manic torrent]

because it doesn't work

[manic torrent]

ask the googles

[weak fox]

no u

[manic torrent]

I already know what it means

[weak fox]

just use simpler words its not a spelling competition

[manic torrent]

... that is the correct word

[weak fox]

simplify it

[slim yacht]

open and traceable generally

[weak fox]

thanks

[manic torrent]

you big wrong

[weak fox]

i get you

[weak fox]

it does

virtual desktop

[manic torrent]

I have many monitors, I've used a lot of VR. It doesn't work.

[weak fox]

https://youtu.be/FGR1A9LHf68

[stray apex]

Not well

We don't have the resolution yet

[manic torrent]

but even if we did.....

[weak fox]

check the video

[stray apex]

There's no reason it wouldn't work if the visual fidelity was good enough

[manic torrent]

I'm well aware there is no technology limitation

[weak fox]

if you have a higher end pc it would look good

[manic torrent]

I'm saying it doesn't work because people don't work that way.

[weak fox]

but computers do

[stray apex]

It has nothing to do with the PC
The display and lenses aren't good enough

[manic torrent]

... so?

[weak fox]

people should try it.

[stray apex]

That's what Facebook is trying to make

[manic torrent]

they have.

[weak fox]

there are vr headsets with full fov

[manic torrent]

I have.

[stray apex]

Not on a release level

I'm sure they've gotten something adequate in a lab somewhere

[manic torrent]

because it's a solid meh in terms of user experience

ever tried to drink a coffee with a vr headset on?

[golden talon]

the fundamental issue:

Do a 180 degree turn to look at the monitor behind you... the keyboard is now behind you

[stray apex]

Yes
Reusable straws are cheap

[weak fox]

its called the pimax 8KX

[weak fox]

why would you turn behind you

lol

[golden talon]

to look at the monitor behind you

[weak fox]

then screw a desk to your chair

[manic torrent]

what I'm saying is yes, it's cool tech, and yes there are absolutely applications, but it ignores everything about ho people exist and percieve in the real world

[weak fox]

like one of those baby chairs

lmao

[golden talon]

now you gotta rotate yourself, your desk, your chair, and possibly your PC

just to look at a "monitor" behind you?

[stray apex]

Why would you bother rotating yourself

[manic torrent]

I'm guessing you're what 15? never worked fulltime?

[golden talon]

to look at your monitor in VR

[stray apex]

Why would there be a monitor behind you?

[weak fox]

but why have a monitor behind you when you can have 4 monitors infront of you and 2 on each sides

[golden talon]

even a 90 degree turn would be a real pain

[weak fox]

turn your head

[manic torrent]

why have virtual monitors at all

[golden talon]

turn your head 90 degrees and work like that

[stray apex]

Realistically you would only bother with 3 monitors

[weak fox]

you wouldnt have to buy mutliple monitors

[golden talon]

i'd rather get an ultrawide or 3 monitors

[weak fox]

yeah

[weak fox]

you could do that in vortual desktop

change the wideness

[manic torrent]

.... no, I mean why bother with virtual monitors. why not just have your entire workspace

[weak fox]

you could. but why

[stray apex]

In theory, it'll eventually be cheaper to use virtual monitors

[manic torrent]

.... why not

[golden talon]

and then you'd need the graphical horsepower to run a virtual desktop

[manic torrent]

also monitors are not expensive

[golden talon]

you can run 3 monitors off a GT 710

[weak fox]

how many monitors is your entire workspace

[stray apex]

They're still hundreds of dollars

[manic torrent]

like... 6? I think

[sonic barn]

y

what do you do

[weak fox]

2 monitors infornt of you 2 above that and 2 on each sided

[manic torrent]

plus a 24" in portrait I just added

[weak fox]

i mean you could just have multiple vr tracked keyboards

[manic torrent]

lol. "just". dude no.

[stray apex]

At some point, it'll be cheaper to use virtual displays than actual monitors
Until then it's not gonna be a thing

[golden talon]

more money for a virtual desktop

would rather just get normal monitors

[weak fox]

it already is

[manic torrent]

VR is not the way. AR? Possibly.

[manic torrent]

looooool

[stray apex]

No
Virtual monitors aren't even practical at all

[weak fox]

300$-1000$ for one vr. virtual desktop costs 20

[stray apex]

Let alone cost-effective

[weak fox]

virtual desktop is a program

[stray apex]

You can get a 24" 1080p IPS display for under $100

[weak fox]

wait fr?! how much fps

[stray apex]

And that's perfectly fine for basic office work

[manic torrent]

..... most people physically cannot use VR for that long

[stray apex]

A nicer 27" can be had for like $150-300 depending on refresh rate and resolution

[weak fox]

every monitor is going to be the same fps

[weak fox]

why?

[weak fox]

but you could have multiple in vr all the same refresh rate and framerate for the same price.

[golden talon]

gotta get the software, gotta get the GPU capable of it, gotta get the "VR tracked keyboard and mouse", and a VR headset,

[manic torrent]

jfc dude, you're shilling VR and you don't know anything about it

[golden talon]

meanwhile i can run 3 monitors off a GT 710 for less than $150

[stray apex]

Sure?
And eventually once AR becomes ubiquitous it'll probably make sense

But right now VR costs too much for too little

[weak fox]

true pc parts cost allot

[stray apex]

I'm sure in 2030 or whenever apple will release the iAR or something for $1000 and it'll simulate 3 4k displays for your imac

[weak fox]

explain why they cant

i never had that problem

[stray apex]

But for now the quest isn't nearly good enough

[manic torrent]

sample set of 1? perfection

[weak fox]

explain

i do not speak george washington

[manic torrent]

... you have heard of science yeah?

[stray apex]

The quest 2 doesn't have proper ipd adjustment
So I would really prefer not to use it for more than a couple hours

The resolution of consumer VR headsets also isn't great

[weak fox]

true, games with allot of moving will be annoying.

[weak fox]

resolution depends on your pc

everything costs allot.

[stray apex]

Uh
No

[weak fox]

wait a sec im gonna send a pic

[stray apex]

That slider does not actually make the display in your headset change resolution

The hardware is the limit

[manic torrent]

@weak fox are you an actual duck?

[weak fox]

oh didnt know that. but if you get a kojac cable that can charge your vr headset while being plugged in you could achieve some good resolution

[weak fox]

yeah, im tap dancing on my keyboard.

[stray apex]

No
It's literally just not enough pixels on the display

[manic torrent]

wut?

[weak fox]

wait lemme send you the kojac cable name

[weak fox]

and foveated rendering could also help

[stray apex]

You could have a thunderbolt 5 cable running off of an rtx 6090 and it would not matter

The display cannot show more pixels than it has

[weak fox]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972697886053761024/1022326704422801408/nameless.jpg

[weak fox]

then get a better headset

sell your current one

[stray apex]

Headsets with appropriate resolution to actually practically simulate multiple displays are not available at consumer level

[modern stream]

Headsets have resolution?

[compact ridge]

Yes!

[weak fox]

they are available

[weak fox]

per eye

per lense

[modern stream]

I just buy whatever is cheapest at Walmart

[weak fox]

a google cardboard

[compact ridge]

Oh are you talking about those ones

[weak fox]

its a joke

[stray apex]

I'm pretty sure 60ppd headsets exist only in labs

[weak fox]

but for me i can really see a change in pixels

[weak fox]

look at the pimax 8kx

[modern stream]

How tf do you see audio 💀

[stray apex]

20ppd

[weak fox]

droogas

[compact ridge]

With your eyes!

[weak fox]

really good vr headset

[compact ridge]

You can’t see with ears

[modern stream]

Ohhhhhh yall talking abt vr

[weak fox]

the closer the screen is to your head the more eye damage you get the more blind you get the more blind you get the more relaxed you get

vr makes you relaxed

[modern stream]

When you said headset i though yall were talking abt headphones

[weak fox]

both go on your head

[weak fox]

put the monitors closer to your face

but i see your point

now all we have to do is to find a way to fix it

[modern stream]

I just use ocuĺus

[weak fox]

thats good

[modern stream]

Nothing abt vr is relaxing

[weak fox]

no. the more blind you are the more relaxed you are.

vr eye damage lmao

[modern stream]

Idk bout that super hot is not relaxing at all

[weak fox]

@stray apex i agree with you. i just hope in the future they will utilize vr for more things like monitors.

currently what i do in vr is play shooter games

[manic torrent]

ok, so jack. why is literally nobody doing what you suggest

[modern stream]

Cuz nobody rlly paying attention

[manic torrent]

I can afford VR. cost is not the issue.

[weak fox]

back in the 90s computers were a joke. now vr is a joke.

history repeats itself

[slim yacht]

u tryna experience nuclear bomb in vr or sumthing

[manic torrent]

lololol. dude I was there. you're wrong

[weak fox]

that sounds like fun. i wanna get the same radiation

[manic torrent]

VR isn't a joke, it's a tool. it has great applications, and stuff it isn't suited to.

[modern stream]

Idk bout yall but I just wanna play apex in vr

[weak fox]

yeah and currently it isnt the best for things like using it for multiple monitors. whst im trying to get across is more companys more people should look at vr and try it. its really fun.

i havent played a flatscreen game in 1 year because my pc broke. ive been playing so many vr games.

and sorry if my english isnt good. im not english or american.

[manic torrent]

... you know most people work all day, not playing games

[manic torrent]

neither am I

[weak fox]

yeah people could use it for work. the new meta headset is not going to be for gaming its going to be for work

[manic torrent]

... do you work?

[weak fox]

i do 3d art, i do video editing, i do photo editing.

i cant wait to get back into doing all of those things again, having a broke pc doesnt really help.

[fluid ridge]

adobe?

[weak fox]

yeah

photoshop, premiere pro, after effects, blender, substance 3d painter.

[gritty wave]

Do you know any good ways to practice editing without a video to edit

[weak fox]

i try too. i just edit random things

its good practice.

[gritty wave]

Yeah i wanna know because i like editing and wanna become better but idk what to edit to practise

[manic torrent]

... VR headsets are colour calibrated now?

[weak fox]

yeah.

the new pico 4 and the meta quest pro is also going to be color calibrated

its going to have color cameras

[weak fox]

i used to edit clips of me playing video games as practice.

didnt upload them.

because i was scared of people thinking it was bad.

[gritty wave]

ah i do the same

but i upload em because idc

[weak fox]

thats good.

[gritty wave]

idk if i can send links

[weak fox]

dms

[slim yacht]

its a good way to exercise actually

gotta run to rumble you know

apparently celeron and pentium line will cease to exist soon

core i3 everywhere ay

[weak fox]

a game like rainbow six siege is coming to vr. its called breachers

trailer: https://youtu.be/MlFI6vA5kGA

[ocean narwhal]

why vr always haev bad graphics

[weak fox]

because it has to render 2 pictures at once. like you have 2 eyes.

[ocean narwhal]

mfw devs dev on a 1660ti

[slim yacht]

i mean if they do it on A8000 you'd need 3090 to play

[weak fox]

and the graphics are with the quest 2 standalone. if you connect it to pc its going to look better

look at vail for example. really good shooter with graphics.

[ocean narwhal]

what resolution are modern vr googles?

[manic torrent]

800x600

[weak fox]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972697886053761024/1022325613178130463/nameless.jpg

[ocean narwhal]

i guess quest 2 is 1920p so almost 4k, so what u need graphics that ur card would be able to render like 400fps at 4k i guess

[weak fox]

you can change it

[lilac sage]

if that was true everyone would be vomiting

[weak fox]

true lmao

[ocean narwhal]

well yeah u can change it but theres always a native on headsets

If that one is 3000p i guess shitty graphics makes sense

you guys are the ones who really need dlss jeez

[weak fox]

check this pic

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[weak fox]

The Quest 2 uses a 1920 x 1832 resolution, but you can change it with side quest to make it look better or worse natively.

[ocean narwhal]

lmao so just whats the native resolution

that screenshot suggests 3092p

which yeah thats gonna need some bare freakin bones graphics to run at an effective 180fps on a single screen

[weak fox]

the quest 2 has a max framerate of 120fps

[ocean narwhal]

so 240fps 3092p for an effective single eye

and then theres some overhead because 2 eyes probably idk

[weak fox]

120 fps for every eye

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[weak fox]

even your 89th eye

[ocean narwhal]

combined thats 240 frames

[weak fox]

yeah

[ocean narwhal]

u need some fuckin beefcake cpu too eh?

[wraith sonnet]

I just lost the game

[weak fox]

but with foveated rendering and eye tracking it can increase how good it looks.

[ocean narwhal]

do we actually have that yet

[weak fox]

look at the psvr 2 it has eye tracking and foveated rendering to achieve this cool game

https://youtu.be/ATR0vlhDK1E

[weak fox]

yeah

[weak fox]

and yes 90% of this is gameplay because some youtubers tested the psvr 2 lately and they showed the gameplay.

[ocean narwhal]

thats p cool

[manic torrent]

Yes, per eye for a total of 3092

[weak fox]

yeah but with foveated rendering and eye tracking it can make where your looking full resolution and everything around low rez to make it look realistic without it costing a kidney.

[ocean narwhal]

nvm ok

it makes sense why vr games look like garbage

[weak fox]

yeah. but with foveated rendering you cant notice a difference.

[ocean narwhal]

market is already teeny tiny for VR

[weak fox]

true

[ocean narwhal]

gotta appeal to that bottom denominator of hardware

result is something thats gotta run on anything

[weak fox]

the quest 2 runs on a phone lol

looks garbage

connect it to a pc and you got yourself some good stuff

[ocean narwhal]

ye

[weak fox]

heres a vid where this youtuber tried it. https://youtu.be/A874oOdhyDs

there are allot of these ebcause people got to try it recently

[ocean narwhal]

psvr is probably going to slightly boost vr

people can design around a decent rdna2 gpu as a hardware target

[weak fox]

lmao

[ocean narwhal]

why is the chat filter so aggro jesus

[weak fox]

i saw that last part

[ocean narwhal]

thats just goofy

[weak fox]

and then basically say ok if ur gpu is worse than the ps5 go f--- yourself lol

[ocean narwhal]

yea devs can make minimum hardware effectively a ps5

[weak fox]

yeah.

[near nebula]

Or maybe Series X as recommended

But that doesn't do VR

[full fossil]

I switched to insider dev channel

wish me luck kekw

[near nebula]

I wonder if the next SKUs might use a modified BigNavi APU for the Series X and PS5?

[uncut axle]

Idk where to ask this but what’s the best video/picture editing software? For cheap, if possible

I was gonna ask in tech channel one but this isn’t really related to tech anyways

[upbeat ridge]

Its dark

Why is it dark, why am I awake

[vapid smelt]

turn on the lights then

[upbeat ridge]

Yeah I forgot where the light switch is

I do know that it’s cold af here

And this Red Cross fleece jacket doesn’t have a thing that goes over my head to not make my ears cold

(I’m gonna be watching over stabbed people lol)

[vapid smelt]

a hood

[tender sentinel]

Quick question, Would a computer with a high end processor and 64gb of ram have issues running GTA V if that computer had Intel Integrated graphics?

[upbeat ridge]

Yes

[upbeat ridge]

This one

[uncut axle]

High end cpu and high amount of ram with integrated graphics…. Idk if you can’t afford a gpu but i think if you can get one, it’s best

Unless it’s a laptop or something

[upbeat ridge]

My fancy red clothing

[tender sentinel]

Okay cause I just entered one of Intels' random giveaways, it's for a Nuc 12 Extreme (i9-12900, 64gb ddr4-3200 sodimm ram, 3 M.2 NVMe SSDs and Intel UHD graphics)

[upbeat ridge]

I mean, it can’t hurt to try?

[tender sentinel]

99.9% chance of winning but still figured I'd ask that question

[sonic barn]

Red cross?

[upbeat ridge]

Yep

[uncut axle]

If it’s a giveaway than it doesn’t seem terrible actually, although a gpu should be something to get, idk how well Intel integrated graphics are tbh

[sonic barn]

Noice

[uncut axle]

I don’t have much of red clothing tbh

Maybe a few shirts and a dark red hoodie

[upbeat ridge]

I have a red school hoodie

[uncut axle]

Light hoodie, here we don’t really use hoodies much

I mean in the summer it’s like mid 80s to 90s(f) on average

And maybe 60-70f in the fall

[upbeat ridge]

Also a Griffindore t shirt

[tender sentinel]

I have 11th gen uhd graphics in my current gateway laptop. It actually performs pretty well, even when it comes to casual ganing

[uncut axle]

Yeah

[upbeat ridge]

What’s that in normal units😂

[uncut axle]

Let me check

[upbeat ridge]

Because right now it’s 2 degrees Celsius here

Oh yeah i know, but that’s not really normal is it

[uncut axle]

15-21c In the fall

[lone crater]

God im pissed at Nvidia right now

[upbeat ridge]

Ah damn

[lone crater]

holy crap

[upbeat ridge]

That’s a pleasant temp

[uncut axle]

And 26-32c in the summer average

[upbeat ridge]

Here I am where in just two days we went from 30 C to 2 C

[uncut axle]

Around there

[upbeat ridge]

That’s similar here

Canadian, you are

Die, you must

[uncut axle]

Sometimes it gets into 100f (maybe like 40c)

[upbeat ridge]

(/s lmao)

We had 40c last summer

[lone crater]

so get this, the RTX4080 16gb is $1200 and the RTX4080 12gb is $900

[upbeat ridge]

It uh, was Not Fun™️

[uncut axle]

37c

[median idol]

I can see why, I mean that 4080 12GB thing was ridiculous.

[uncut axle]

We had a few weeks of it here

[upbeat ridge]

Everything burned, McDonald’s closed, it was chaos

[lone crater]

so you might think " oh wow why do i pay $300 more to get 4gb"

[uncut axle]

Over the summer, not at once

[slim yacht]

and also different specs rtx 4080 entirely with the card named the same

[uncut axle]

We were fine, it’s pretty common tbh

[lone crater]

here's where Nvidia is fucking you up, the RTX4080 12gb has less cores than the 16gb version, 2600 less cores

[upbeat ridge]

(My McDonald’s closed because we were working without AC, and that’s not really work safe and someone fainted, when measured with a calibrated thermometer the temp was 53 C inside lmao)

[lone crater]

like bro thats like missleading

[uncut axle]

I mean we are in southern us, it gets hot in the summer

[lone crater]

exactly why im pissed at them

[uncut axle]

Oof

[upbeat ridge]

Okay but also, air humidity does something

I work there😂

[uncut axle]

That’s pretty bad here as well

[slim yacht]

nvidia : i make more moni by giving bullshit hehe boi

[upbeat ridge]

so I didn’t really mind, I got paid for not working

[lone crater]

thats my point

[tender sentinel]

Like, I'll be straight up honest here. I have Fallout 4. With a little bit of tweaking of the .ini settings and a performance mod or two I can get 45-60fps out of that 11th gen intel UHD graphics chip. 4fps is mostly in downtown Boston area though

[lone crater]

its a rebranden 4070

[tender sentinel]

Sorry it took so long to type

[uncut axle]

Not terrible I wouldn’t think

[upbeat ridge]

But do you have buildings that are designed to keep heat in

[lone crater]

i really really wish that AMD got something up their sleves or ARC giving its full potential

[tender sentinel]

Lmao no not at all it's impressive for that Intel card

[uncut axle]

I mean you get what you get with built in graphics

[tender sentinel]

Yes

[uncut axle]

I actually don’t know tbh

[median idol]

As much as I prefer Nvidia GPUs, I will definitely say that holy shit was that scummy on Nvidia's part. Even all the tech personalities are calling them out on this

[slim yacht]

time for all amd

[vapid smelt]

what the fuck dude you cant say F***ed in here

[lone crater]

btw i have a question, why does my headphones pop when my pc is under load like 50% load, by "pop" i mean it creates a sound like when you jack in an electric guitar, like a big pop

[upbeat ridge]

Like, southern Italy and Spain, that’s fine to be there with temps, they are built for it. We on the other hand are built for the cold

[tender sentinel]

Weather here in North Carolina is THE WORST

[uncut axle]

Our power grid isn’t very well tbh, although the company we use-uses the Louisiana power grid

[lone crater]

its a B550

asrock

[slim yacht]

nvidia could surely made their card cheaper or at least have significant power draw improvement with tsmc and yet here we are with them giving bullshit

[uncut axle]

Because ofc Texas has to use a different power grid than the other states

[lone crater]

and sometimes it jumps to 100% volumes

[tender sentinel]

It is so bipolar it will literally switch from "sky fell out" raining to sunny as hell in under a few minutes

[wraith sonnet]

texas is MASSIVE

[uncut axle]

It is

[lone crater]

$100 difference

[slim yacht]

x86 is still relevant, thats why

[wraith sonnet]

Texas needs three powergrids to function... it can't share other states power grid

[upbeat ridge]

The superior way of paying for public transport

[wraith sonnet]

and socketed procs

[uncut axle]

I could see that, I believe the power company we use, has the Louisiana power grid for power

[tender sentinel]

Y'know the one thing about Texas I don't understand is, yeah they might be the biggest state, but why do the people have to act like Texas is better than every other state ?

[uncut axle]

Idk

[slim yacht]

no, because arm by nature was made for mobile products due to RISC
x86 was build on CISC, both different platform and featureset, coupled with different target devices entirely

[tender sentinel]

it honestly gets annoying

[wraith sonnet]

It functionally is better, it was an independent country. and if it left the union it can provide food water and shelter and govern all by itself

[median idol]

Whilst yeah I guess that's not terrible compared to how the 4080s were in terms of price increase over the predecessors of their class, but not everyone can justify paying over a grand for a GPU unless the workload they do requires such specs

[uncut axle]

Texans are just proud to be Texans i guess

[vapid smelt]

i have bad news

[wraith sonnet]

having the ability to swap processors rather than being soldered only

[uncut axle]

Oh wait

[uncut axle]

Wrong message

[vapid smelt]

they have no SLI or nvlink ports at all

[uncut axle]

Texans are proud to be Texans i guess

[wraith sonnet]

find me a relevant non soldered non x86 cpu

[uncut axle]

I mean I even have a Texas patch on my backpack tbh, although it isn’t all in your face

[slim yacht]

people just dont use risc-v for whatever reason
x86 still and will always be relevant

[tender sentinel]

It was its own country for 10 years, if we're being honest, and it was because they couldn't stand mexico, and the US was too controlling. Once they got halfway to the 11th year, they needed the us so they asked to come back

[wraith sonnet]

x86 has almost 50 years of legacy compatibility

[wraith sonnet]

oil.

[slim yacht]

no. its because RISC requires more instruction sets to run same task as CISC which it was built for
its not rocket science