public-chat

[granite tinsel]

thing is... i'm planning to switch to a mac for everything but gaming 🗿

[sonic barn]

just use linux

[digital fern]

mac + console

[granite tinsel]

i tried; i hated it

[sonic barn]

mac is very anti consumer

[granite tinsel]

tho it's good on my steam deck

[hearty spear]

nvenc is h.264 not 265

[granite tinsel]

you say that as if i don't know

[sonic barn]

at least get a thinkpad intel and then run macos on it

[manic torrent]

I could agree with you if I also wanted to be wrong

[sonic barn]

some versions are fully supported

[granite tinsel]

...actually where does the M1 stack up on there?

[sonic barn]

but macos sucks since its restrictive like ios on what can run and be downloaded

[granite tinsel]

i don't mind if it means i don't have headaches when i try to do basic tasks

[velvet marsh]

highly dependent on what kind of footage you're using

[sonic barn]

I like installing stuff whenever and not having certificates revoke because apple needs to make money off everything

[hearty spear]

https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk
Encoding: h.264
Decoding: Both 264 and 265 (but decoding is way easier)

[granite tinsel]

makes sense since they have those specialized render cores

[manic torrent]

https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new

[velvet marsh]

prores, really high, anything else, not great

[granite tinsel]

time to become a final cut snob

[sonic barn]

loseless

kill ssd

[granite tinsel]

oh right shadowplay can't use RAM as a buffer

[sonic barn]

it uses vram as a buffer afaik

[velvet marsh]

I'll just use my ssd, it's faster than most ram

[granite tinsel]

it also will kill your SSD faster

[velvet marsh]

Not anymore than I do already lol

[sonic barn]

with mac you can't replace the ssd

[granite tinsel]

i'm aware

[sonic barn]

they did a microsoft surface move

[granite tinsel]

but the pros outweigh the cons in my use case imo

[hearty spear]

apple can replace your SSD lol

[sonic barn]

its actually easy to replace if you can get the chips and have a soldering iron

[hearty spear]

just pay the apple tax a second time

[sonic barn]

same price as a new mac

[velvet marsh]

I love my mac, until I have to do anything that uses the CPU and it slows to a crawl

[sonic barn]

but u can boot off an external ssd through tb3

[granite tinsel]

which is why i wouldn't move completely away from my PC; i'd keep it around

mainly for gaming tho because

apple silicon gaming

[sonic barn]

no...

apple silicon is actually good for some games

[hearty spear]

Firewire had that 20+ years ago

[sonic barn]

like fortnite

[unique needle]

its their fkn api

[hearty spear]

(well, not SSDs, since they didn't exist at the time)

[manic torrent]

so you can see how you were wrong?

[unique needle]

come on guys support vulkan

[sonic barn]

its a joke

[sonic barn]

they left vulkan same time they stopped supporting steam vr

[gilded quest]

Doesn't matter if apple silicon is good at some games, if the games you wanna play don't run on macos

[unique needle]

bunch of anti consumer idiots

[granite tinsel]

what i was flabbergasted to learn recently was that apparently genshin can't be played on macs even though it's literally just the same apple silicon that the game runs on with iphones and ipads

[sonic barn]

then they moved to metal and whatever they want to name

[unique needle]

oh noooo you forgor its metal 2.0

[velvet marsh]

Metal is terrible

[unique needle]

LOL

[granite tinsel]

metal could be the greatest API in existence and still no game dev would give a shit for a platform with 10% market share that's infamous for lack of gaming capability

[dreamy rose]

you loose access to the PC Master Race

[manic torrent]

lol if that flabberghasts you then you don't know much about the history of software licensing or apple

[granite tinsel]

i do not know that much about software licensing on macs; i do know a decent amount about iOS licensing because of the studio i work for

[unique needle]

guys dont you find it weird that litteraly the new ipads are m1 machines

come on mac os on ipad goddamnit

[granite tinsel]

yes but i have one and it's quite cool

...but yes you can feel how much it's being held back by iPadOS

[hearty spear]

apparently so. always be learning new stuff.

[manic torrent]

yeah I mean more widely - software licensing has more or less always been whacked.

[dreamy rose]

no. they're trying to make a Tablet into a Fuckin laptop. pointless!

[unique needle]

monnnnneyyyyy

[granite tinsel]

sidenote the way genshin runs on my ipad pro is hilarious

[manic torrent]

... yeah ok

[granite tinsel]

this is one of two platforms in existence that's allowed to run the game at 120FPS and it can only feasibly do so at low settings

on medium it gets mad frame drops

[unique needle]

tab s8 ultra (12gb ram) isnt much better on this game

[hearty spear]

ipad Pro's are pretty damned competent convertables.

[unique needle]

its demanding

[dreamy rose]

not only do they already have their own Laptops. but now they are competing against eachother.

[granite tinsel]

after having a few months with this pro as my only portable computer i honestly see apple's vision

i really like how lightweight and portable it is

[manic torrent]

what is your actual problem? more consumer choice? oh no!

[granite tinsel]

i feel a lot more comfortable whipping it out whenever i'm not moving around very much than i ever did with any laptop i've ever used

[unique needle]

we apple think differently lol

[velvet marsh]

We had the courage

[sonic barn]

Vulkan is open sourced and OpenGL

[granite tinsel]

fear of self-cannibalizing sales is why ipads still run iPadOS and macbooks still don't have touchscreens

[dreamy rose]

can say the same thing about a Thin and light Windows PC. especially with AMD where you get Crazy good battery life and good graphics on die compared to intel.

[unique needle]

opengl can rest in peace let it die for god's sake

[sonic barn]

No

[manic torrent]

apple is about appealing to a wide wide base, and making it really smooth and nice for those people.

[sonic barn]

We'll get openGL 2

[granite tinsel]

and i like that, even as a power user

[unique needle]

and ripping them off too

[manic torrent]

... you can't, because x86 sucks horribly compared to arm

[unique needle]

sweet sweet dreams

[manic torrent]

dude, that's literally every company.

[unique needle]

ik

but apple is a special breed

look

[manic torrent]

You need to take several chill pills

[dreamy rose]

ok now thats just Stupid talk. we're talking about Formfactor not Efficiency here

[unique needle]

remember the unremovable monitor cable that actually was removable

[dreamy rose]

thats their main priority.

[unique needle]

yeah thats apple

[manic torrent]

and it's not related AT ALL ...

I should know better, this is on me. @dreamy rose is a nutbag and I know this.

[dreamy rose]

Physical Size of a laptop in no way Correlates to what kind of Architecture a Processor uses.

[granite tinsel]

for my use case with the ipad pro, it basically boils down to this:

1. i have a steam deck so i don't need it to be compatible with every game under the sun
2. battery life is important
3. outside of digital art, i just need it to do some light work like spreadsheets, document writing, using chat apps, and watching videos
4. and then i want really good and polished stylus integration for drawing and art because i was sick of weird driver bullshit on my XP-pen display
5. being lightweight and easy to take out anywhere is a big plus

[unique needle]

but then what about samsung tablets ?

[granite tinsel]

android tablets

[dreamy rose]

Android tablets are ass.

[unique needle]

personnaly i have a tab s8 ultra and with dex is wonderful

[dreamy rose]

by Extention so are ipads. but they suck less

[unique needle]

note taking, office, light coding

its incredible

and linux too hehe

[granite tinsel]

oh yeah
6. i'm planning to switch to an iphone so the vertical integration and synergy there would be great

[gilded quest]

Honestly android tablets are fine

[dreamy rose]

they have actually gotten better. which is cool. they just need to be more than an Android ipad

[hollow zealot]

As someone who uses a tablet in a work environment, android is a bit too clunky imo
As much as I love my android phone, apple works better to provide a smooth experience

[granite tinsel]

oh also long-term support

[gilded quest]

Apps have gotten better at utilizing the big screens since phones are now massive

[slim yacht]

not really, samsungs tab are quite good for what they do

[granite tinsel]

my mom's fuckin first-gen ipad pro is still getting software updates

[dreamy rose]

Sure. but its the exact opposite for Phones.

[manic torrent]

everything sucks

[unique needle]

today's final hottake lol

[granite tinsel]

nothing's perfect

[dreamy rose]

facts.

[manic torrent]

pick your poison.

[granite tinsel]

that's a hot take?????

[hollow zealot]

I have an s22, and work provided an iphone SE
Both are good for different use cases

[unique needle]

yep

[manic torrent]

There's lots more time for awful hot takes, and I garauntee you that won't be the worst

[dreamy rose]

if it were still around i'd be using Amiga Workbench.

[hollow zealot]

I don't understand why people feel the need to have such horrible and negative brand loyalty when everything does something different well

Just use whatever works for you

[unique needle]

no its cause 10 minutes itll be tomorow

[granite tinsel]

i mean yea i'm not denying you've had a good experience with samsung tablets

it's just that's not what i've seen for myself

[manic torrent]

For you maybe, some of us are in better timezones 🙂

[unique needle]

oh shit

mbd

[granite tinsel]

pacific gang

[dreamy rose]

Laughs in 2PM

[unique needle]

dumb me is dying to sleep

[hollow zealot]

Samsung tablets are fine for what they're made for
Being a phone with a bigger screen oriented towards media consumption

[manic torrent]

My new screen arm just arrived... pretty sure the arm weighs more than the screen

[unique needle]

yeah at the end of the day everything has a usecase if used properly

[hollow zealot]

Some people find that useful, some people don't

[granite tinsel]

yep, and everyone has their own use cases

[hollow zealot]

Mood
What's the size

[granite tinsel]

i elaborated on why the ipad pro was ideal for my use case

[unique needle]

800 words without mistakes please

[slim yacht]

usability wise samsung tabs overwhelms apple's tab with the existence of dex
but to be honest many dont even need dex to begin with

thus going apple make sense

[unique needle]

flippin school

[hollow zealot]

Okay tbh Dex is pretty neat, though I never use it

[dreamy rose]

but do you really need an iPhone?

[hollow zealot]

They need whatever tf they want to need

[granite tinsel]

nah but again in terms of use case and what i want out of a phone, the iphone falls closest to that

[slim yacht]

the real question is which he finds most comfortable with rather than what they need

[manic torrent]

need? that is a strong word. I don't need 6 screens. But I have them.

[unique needle]

nonono

you neeed them

[dreamy rose]

Android serves everyone just fine.

[unique needle]

stop lying to yourself lol

[hollow zealot]

Pls tell me your background is matrix code

[manic torrent]

nobody needs android. Everyone is going to use a greenscreen linux terminal

[granite tinsel]

it took android phonemakers up until last year to pledge up to 5 years software support

and i know what you're gonna say: lineageOS

[dreamy rose]

Speak for yourself but Android lets you do whatever the fuck ya want unlike iOS.

[unique needle]

sudo apt-get autohomework

lol

[slim yacht]

i myself who used android and have been absorbed into apple ecosystem before, i will say that the neat system they create is so damn convenient when you shift to other devices under the same umbrella
thats the main reason why people stick with apple products mostly

[hollow zealot]

Bruh Linux gives me a power trip
I never felt so in control when using windows

[granite tinsel]

but the fact apple provides software support to iphones for 7 years or even more is a virtue compared to having to extend an android phone's life manually

[hollow zealot]

I was beyond tempted to run Linux on my main machine

Ubuntu 💪

[manic torrent]

ehhhh, I did this in like 2004.

[unique needle]

well it also was a nightmare

[dreamy rose]

linux is for people who don't abuse Computers.

[hollow zealot]

Probably would be more usable now that it's 2022 lol

[granite tinsel]

also every single android phone i've used has suffered from the camera just getting painfully slow after about a year

[unique needle]

remember the perofrmance and battery throttling

[hollow zealot]

???

[manic torrent]

I mean I've been using it for nearly 30 years and I abuse the heck out of computers.

[granite tinsel]

and i've stuck to the relatively stock, bloat-free phones

[dreamy rose]

you become one with your system. you understand them.

[granite tinsel]

nexus 5 > galaxy S8 > essential phone > oneplus 7T pro

[hollow zealot]

My Linux machine sits on the floor

[slim yacht]

well seems we have different experience but its understandable how frustrating this was

[hollow zealot]

If that's not abuse idk what is

[granite tinsel]

like minus the galaxy S8 those were all very purist android phones

[unique needle]

linux good until adobe comes in

[hollow zealot]

I have an s22 and it's the first phone I own that can open the camera in under 15 seconds

[granite tinsel]

and they still slowed down

[sonic barn]

Just roll back updates

[dreamy rose]

Sure, thats bad. but putting an Insufferable operating system is just the worst thing to do

[granite tinsel]

y'know what phone line doesn't require me to be stuck on an older version of the OS just to have the camera be responsive?

[manic torrent]

lol

[hollow zealot]

"just get rid of vuln patches"

[gilded quest]

Sounds like you need a steam deck

[dreamy rose]

Fuck Adobe. Adobe needs to fucking die.

[hollow zealot]

I've been trying to convince myself to buy one

[sonic barn]

Get lineage then

[dreamy rose]

Gimp is way better

[gilded quest]

Tru
I like Lightroom ♥️♥️♥️

[granite tinsel]

good god YES

[hollow zealot]

Krita user here

[granite tinsel]

i wish adobe a very go bankrupt

CSP user here

[sonic barn]

I have a 'legitimate adobe suite' and now they're making figma possibly paid which is heresy

[dreamy rose]

love it. eats all my RAM too

[slim yacht]

i mean people still mains windows, theres no reason for adobe to optimize linux when user base does not reach their target minimum

[velvet marsh]

Linux is great until you need to do graphic design or video editing

[unique needle]

crack it you can and its simple

[manic torrent]

lol. adobe sucking a bit pays a part of my salary right now

[granite tinsel]

yep LMAO

[hollow zealot]

One time I did a piece of art in 4k x 4k
Never again

[gilded quest]

Maybe the government will block the figma acquisition

[sonic barn]

How do you think I got all the apps

[granite tinsel]

when i tried dailying linux i realized the only drawing programs available to me were fucking GIMP and drawpile

so out of all the paint and drawing programs i used on windows, only one made it through

[unique needle]

beautiful work

[hollow zealot]

Gimp feels like watered down krita

I hate the logo too

[sonic barn]

You just run it in offline basically with an unlimited trial

[dreamy rose]

it does everything you want it to. sometimes not perfectly. but it actually does it.

[velvet marsh]

No it doesn't

[sonic barn]

It can't verify or check the days passed

[unique needle]

yep

[hollow zealot]

Steam OS is fixing the one thing that scared me about linux

[manic torrent]

this is garbage

[gilded quest]

Davinci resolve is great and free

And cross platform

[granite tinsel]

same

[manic torrent]

use the right tool for the right problem.

[unique needle]

i heard about it how does it compare ?

to premier pro ofc

[manic torrent]

it's a full featured editor...

[gilded quest]

Never used premiere lol

[dreamy rose]

yes, Linux can and Will. the Adobe suite is shit and better open source Alternatives Exist. gaming might not be perfect but it works really well.

[sonic barn]

I think Davinci only has 1080p free

[granite tinsel]

up to 1080p free

[gilded quest]

I've used FCP7 and Resolve

[velvet marsh]

Davinci is fantastic for color grading, it's getting better for editing now

[sonic barn]

You could run adobe stuff in wine

[unique needle]

ik lol i am not dumb last time i checked

[slim yacht]

premiere is really nice, until you use a linux

[dreamy rose]

Web Browsing is done perfectly by linux

[gilded quest]

I heard premiere is very crashy

[manic torrent]

Check again maybe? 😉

[unique needle]

that's a standart ?

[unique needle]

fuk, leme see

[velvet marsh]

There's a reason Adobe is pretty much the industry standard

[sonic barn]

You could get anything working if u got the time

[granite tinsel]

yeah that's the big if with linux

[slim yacht]

so far its fine, last few iteration was buggy

[granite tinsel]

if you've got the time

and well the patience too

i've got the former but not the latter

[unique needle]

asking the question is answering the question

[sonic barn]

Otherwise just have a windows PC and a Linux laptop and remote in whenever you need windows spps

[dreamy rose]

yes, Web Browsing done perfectly fine is a Standard in Computing. point is itss not some scary bullcrap.

[granite tinsel]

i did end up installing ubuntu on my dell XPS 15 because the lack of driver updates made the thing chug like it was 10 years old when it was only 3

[unique needle]

yeah linux is just so much easier on the cpu

so barebones

[granite tinsel]

but imma keep it real with you chief, that doesn't mean i should've stuck with it because linux is a worse OS for doing what i want to do than iPadOS is

[sonic barn]

Usually dell is really good with drivers though

[granite tinsel]

and... wow now that i've said it that's fuckin damning

[sonic barn]

I had a Dell G7 7588 and it ran really smoothly

[dreamy rose]

i may be really biased against Windows because my system is 10 years old running Windows 10. But yes i feel it all when Windows does things.

[granite tinsel]

right i remember now

that's the thing about linux; if you're a digital artist it is awful

[manic torrent]

lol. You might be!?

[unique needle]

yeah no windows aint that bad when you got a good pc

[granite tinsel]

just because of how few art programs have linux ports

[dreamy rose]

idk. i though the job of windows was to Support as much hardware as possible yet Linux does it way better.

[unique needle]

funny how its because of this problem that there is not a lot art programs in linux

[manic torrent]

... not really, no.

[granite tinsel]

yeah it's a chicken-and-egg problem

[sonic barn]

Windows once messed up my pc and it would shut off randomly due to a registry broken thing for startup process and would blue screen 9 times out of 10 during the early insider builds. Had to reinstall windows a ton of times on insider builds and regular ones

[granite tinsel]

there are too few art programs for linux so artists don't use it
few artists use linux so developers of art programs don't make linux versions

[unique needle]

oh yeah i feel ya already happened to me

[dreamy rose]

can't say it for Specialised peripheral hardware but the point stands.

[sonic barn]

Krita gimp

For music there's reaper

[unique needle]

not close to the windows library

[granite tinsel]

even the macOS library

most art programs you'll find have macOS ports

[dreamy rose]

though Mac is Mac.

[granite tinsel]

yeah

[unique needle]

cause *dumb * people buy macs jsut kidding guys just kidding

[granite tinsel]

but macOS does have a captive audience with creative types in general, i've noticed

[sonic barn]

At least with Linux and Mac you got Rosetta and wine

[unique needle]

ahhh stop shush i was kidding

[manic torrent]

It really doesn't. Microsoft are not making products for you. They don't care, you are poor.

[dreamy rose]

i still don't understand why people even Defend MacOS. its just a Shitty operating system.

[sonic barn]

Microsoft is very anti consumer in their stuff

[granite tinsel]

the tighter integration of hardware and software makes macOS more useful to video editors, photographers, and other people who need good colour accuracy and an OS that handles different colour gamuts well

[manic torrent]

microsoft is a huge company with all sorts of things going on.

[unique needle]

objectively speaking yes, cant deny reality

[sonic barn]

Should just make it open sourced it's bsd

[lucid echo]

LTT's video on macOS makes some good points

[manic torrent]

it's BSD in the same way that a car is a bosch.

[dreamy rose]

ngl it just feels like a Shitty Backwards version of a Knockoff GNOME Distro

[granite tinsel]

actually digital artists too; at least the ones who are really particular about colour

[unique needle]

itunes says it all, come on i just want to copy a mp3

[sonic barn]

My kde neon setup looks way better

[lucid echo]

Before you get triggered, they did this for Linux & Windows too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsMJeghxWnQ

[dreamy rose]

KDE is a Beautiful Desktop

[sonic barn]

Yes

[granite tinsel]

also i see macOS used by music producers a lot too

[sonic barn]

And it's stable,

[manic torrent]

what is your obsession with Capitals.

[granite tinsel]

not 100% on the reasons for that tho; music production isn't my strong suit

[unique needle]

codex is a rippoff cant build apps on play store without a mac

[dreamy rose]

it becomes anything you want

[lucid echo]

Yeah, Logic X is a fantastic program

[unique needle]

what the flippin duck on fire apple

[granite tinsel]

iirc i think it's the same thing of "macOS handles audio output better"

[sonic barn]

You could do that in Ubuntu as well but time is time

[lucid echo]

And the audio drivers work out of the box, even for legacy hardware

[dreamy rose]

Fuck If I Know Mate'

[sonic barn]

Kde is easier to set up pre configured stuff

And customize it how you want individually

[lucid echo]

Yep, I got hardware from the early 2000's that's a pain to run in windows or linux but works out of the box in macOS

[dreamy rose]

KDE is a Desktop. Ubuntu is a Distro.

[granite tinsel]

windows honestly has the worst fuckin time connecting with other devices

i never had driver issues anywhere near as bad on macOS or linux

[dreamy rose]

Windows doesn't work with my bloody bluetooth but linux does just fine.

[granite tinsel]

in fact i was absolutely floored at how effortlessly i was able to connect to this extremely fussy shitty 2013 samsung printer on linux compared to windows

[sonic barn]

but yeah Ubuntu stock can look better than Kubuntu too

[unique needle]

windows needs a little code refresh not just esthetic

[sonic barn]

C# is a mistake

[unique needle]

not at that degree tho haha

[sonic barn]

Proprietary language

[dreamy rose]

hell yes. Windows made it super hard for no fuckin reason and it makes everyone angry.

[lucid echo]

software developers too - It's UNIX-like just like linux, and can run a lot of software eng tools natively instead of a vm like WSL. While also being supported by a company with warranties/support systems

[unique needle]

but very easy to use tho...

[sonic barn]

Yeah it's like java a bit

Syntax wise

[unique needle]

yep c++ is a chore

[sonic barn]

Carbon is kinda hot ngl

[lucid echo]

Objective-C supremacy

[granite tinsel]

i hypothesize that if you were to make a chart of number of OS users vs level of computer proficiency, macOS's chart would be an inverse bell curve

[sonic barn]

And rust

[unique needle]

i am sweting writing without intellisense

[sonic barn]

Copilot

:)

[unique needle]

i heard about it, i should try it

[dreamy rose]

Fuck the C Languages, all my homies use Fortran.

[lucid echo]

Absolutely. The ppl I know who daily drive macOS either don't know how to copy/paste or are deploying terraform instances to a production server on AWS

[sonic barn]

It's a bit dumb sometimes but it can complete snippets and fill out certain operations very fast

Rather than typing it out

[unique needle]

yeah i need no more

[granite tinsel]

my parents use macs; they were a bit surprised to learn i was thinking of switching myself

[unique needle]

syntax is killing me xd

[granite tinsel]

they thought that after i got a windows 7 laptop from my school that i wouldn't want to deal with macOS again LMAO

[lucid echo]

Which makes it great for companies who want to deploy the same computers to both their engineers and salespeople

[sonic barn]

You won't need to memorize any math functions and operations with copilot

[lucid echo]

Costs moneys now

[sonic barn]

[unique needle]

crap

[lavish drift]

'ello

[sonic barn]

Free for students

[unique needle]

good to know ty

[sonic barn]

Also intellij is making their own I think

[lucid echo]

Copilot is useful but also kinda ass depending on what you're doing

[sonic barn]

Same with a vscode thing

[lucid echo]

It can get very confused with your syntax

[sonic barn]

You have to guide it when it's like that

It can be stupid

[lucid echo]

Which is often more time-consuming than just typing it out, if you're proficient

[unique needle]

ah np i will just stop it when its like that

and i will go full manual mode lol

[dreamy rose]

Intel and Nvidia Are objectively fuckin boring.

[lucid echo]

It's just suggestions, you hit tab to accept its suggestion

So you could just ignore it forever

[unique needle]

oh that's neat

[sonic barn]

Intel might die in 2 yrs if their chips factory doesn't go as planned. Already basically lost mobileye ipo

[lucid echo]

Your strong opinions are very entertaining, I remember being this naive

[sonic barn]

They have debt buildings very fast over 30 billion and cash flow dropping insanely fast from last quarter

[unique needle]

such a legacy company wont die as easily they surely have a backup plan

[sonic barn]

First time earnings died in like 20 yrs

[dreamy rose]

hey hey, don't get out your pitchforks just yet theres a reason

[sonic barn]

Paying the ceo 174 million a year and dividends at .365 isn't helping

[unique needle]

oh wow there you go that's a plan

[sonic barn]

R&d will kill them if they aren't careful

[lucid echo]

I knew you would think I was defending Intel/Nvidia, that's adorable

[dreamy rose]

it only gets intresting when AMD is competitive with BOTH,

[unique needle]

sorry i will go now

[granite tinsel]

i like the funny lisa su company,,,,,,

[sonic barn]

Intel is just pushing too fast for new stuff

[unique needle]

have a great rest of your day/night everyone !

[dreamy rose]

Lisa Su is a Literal Godess.

[granite tinsel]

not necessarily; foundries are fucking expensive and even a company as big as intel could bankrupt themselves if they really fuck it up

[lucid echo]

Worshipping millionaires who don't give a shit about you, that always goes well

[dreamy rose]

i mean. she did bring AMD from Ruin to Competitive.

[granite tinsel]

chip foundries are possibly the biggest industrial money sink of the 21st century

[sonic barn]

A rebrand will most likely happen if anything and be bought out by Nvidia

[granite tinsel]

that would be fucking terrifying dear god no

[misty scarab]

Is it normal for 1080p video to look bad on a 1440 monitor?
I have a 16:9 60fps 1920x1080 video feed into my PC and it looks terrible

[granite tinsel]

to be clear i was just saying "funny lisa su company" as a very stupid synonym for AMD and not specifically saying i like her

[dreamy rose]

i'm not worshipping, just glad the Company still exists because of her. shes a God for not giving intel Monopoly.

[granite tinsel]

but i think she's done a great job with the company

[lucid echo]

There is no way in hell this would ever be allowed to happen, to think otherwise is childish

[median idol]

The 4080 12GB is a certified bruh moment. It might as well be a 4070

[granite tinsel]

according to the prior leaks it was going to be LMAO

[dreamy rose]

it is a 4070. just being upsold.

[median idol]

Damn kekw

[lucid echo]

https://tenor.com/view/that-not-how-it-works-thats-not-how-any-of-this-works-gif-15098334

[sonic barn]

Well Intel is worth ~100 billion USD rn in terms of their market cap

[dreamy rose]

normally the one opposing you isn't meant to have a point, but here I am

[median idol]

Though then again it's Nvidia being Nvidia

[sonic barn]

Nvidia is at 328 billion

If Intel drops to 60 billion they can be bought to help with debt

Because almost half of intels market cap rn is liabilities

[lucid echo]

I love how confident y'all are, this is hilarious

[dreamy rose]

fat chance of that

[lucid echo]

Regulators would never ever allow that to happen ever, no matter how much cash nvidia had

The ARM deal barely went through

[dreamy rose]

even if they had lost a lot of it, fools are Still buying Intel Laptops

[sonic barn]

Well Intels market is trying to go external all at once. Either everything goes right or it all collapses

[lucid echo]

Brand loyalty/hatred is so cringe

[sonic barn]

Going off incentives for chip production in different countries

[lucid echo]

They're all soulless corpos that just want your money. To play teams is playing into their ruse

[sonic barn]

That's what's keeping Intel afloat

[hollow zealot]

Only brand I'm loyal to is LTT 😎

[lucid echo]

I feel like pledging loyalty or mindlessly shitting on a company is a massive self-report that your brain hasn't fully developed

[tepid bolt]

But rtx good

[gilded quest]

[stray apex]

Isn't that being blocked?

[gilded quest]

nvidia backed out

[lucid echo]

I haven't really been following it

[median idol]

The way I look at it, IDC what brand it is (Intel, AMD, or Nvidia) whatever performs best for what I'm doing... that's what is going in the build

[gilded quest]

since it wasn't gonna go through

[hollow zealot]

I just think it's neat that ARM is something that's happening

[sonic barn]

I follow Intels news a lot because I invested in them before

[lucid echo]

That's too reasonable of a take

[dreamy rose]

i don't even have an AMD Processor. i just look at What's best.

[sonic barn]

I want them to succeed but also I believe they're gonna fail

[lucid echo]

Completely missing the point, congrats

[dreamy rose]

and well. its AMD

[hollow zealot]

Investment != Consumption

[tepid bolt]

Consumer market makes for such a small amount of the work these companies do.
Where Intel is really hurting is in the server and data center.

They got absolutely nothing on Epyc

[sonic barn]

Well sales are relative to a companies value like Intel, however consumers only make up a very small amount. It's mostly Intel's database stuff and services that they get their 20 bill revenue each quarter

[dreamy rose]

Facts.

[lucid echo]

We are not the customers. The datacenters are. We are the monkeys fighting in the basement

[sonic barn]

AMD for instance makes 4 bullion per quarter in revenue

And is higher than Intel's valuation

[hollow zealot]

Diy computers is a niche market, despite what we want to believe

[sonic barn]

40x pe ratio

Intel is 6 pe

[dreamy rose]

i thought sales of Desktops were going down drastically

[lucid echo]

I'm definitely gonna trust a child on insightful stock analysis

[sonic barn]

Intel's balance sheet though is terrible though

[tepid bolt]

PC gaming has never been more popular. But that's because gaming as a whole is a booming industry.

[sonic barn]

Well you can check for yourself and you'll see

[lucid echo]

Vinyl records are on the come-up too lol

[lucid echo]

No, I trust you implicitly

[dreamy rose]

yeah but what i mean is that more are building themselves and Prebuilt sales are Dying since that. Building isn't a Niche Anymore

[hollow zealot]

Sanic knows who can and can't Google

[sonic barn]

Also I haven't followed amd stock since june

[gilded quest]

Vinyl seems fun, but Spotify/apple/YouTube music is sooooo much cheaper

[lucid echo]

Culturally it's not that niche, but in terms of their overall revenue, it's a tiny sliver

[hollow zealot]

Family plan Spotify is so cheap

[dreamy rose]

fuck Streaming Services. MP3s are the best

[lucid echo]

You mean FLACs?

[hollow zealot]

I wish I could even hear the difference

[lucid echo]

Haven't heard someone repping MP3s in like 20 years

[sonic barn]

Problem is we came out of COVID work from home where sales were extremely high and it was bound to drop off.

[gilded quest]

The value they provide is discovery

[dreamy rose]

Too much space. MP3 does it just fine. i like high Quality music and all but good luck fitting them on 32GB of Storage.

[lucid echo]

This 100%, my favorite bands were stumbled upon in radios/mixes on spotify and tidal

[sonic barn]

Now we're back to a normal sale period where there's a large backorder due to people not buying like in 2021 and 2020

[lucid echo]

Are you stuck in 2012? Even my smallest microSDs are quadruple that size

[gilded quest]

Vinyl would be nice for some all time favs

[median idol]

I haven't used an mp3 since fucking middle school.... And that was a decade ago

[dreamy rose]

yes, i am Stuck in 2012. and i don't want to be stuck with old shit. but here i am

[gilded quest]

But I always use algorithmic mixes when I listen to music

[dreamy rose]

how about MIDI?

[gilded quest]

Bring back the headphone jack tho

[lucid echo]

It's good for the ritual, appreciation, and supporting the artist. Vinyl has the highest margins for the actual artist.
Quality isn't superior except in extreme cases, but that's not really what it's about.

[median idol]

MIDI.... Let's see 🤔

The last time was when I still had my XP pc

[full fossil]

Not lossless

[hollow zealot]

I listen to .wav music

[dreamy rose]

should never have become a trend in the first place. Apple should have been Shamed and Ridiculed for Removing the headphone jack. not followed

[lucid echo]

Tidal Hifi - Lossless and Streaming

[gilded quest]

Now if only podcasts would move to vinyl...

[full fossil]

Midi definetly still has it's role and is very widely used in music production

[sonic barn]

You can use Spotify, load the playlist onto Deezer and download it for free and u got an offline playlist at 128 mp3 stuff

[lucid echo]

I have a podcast on vinyl actually lmao

[manic torrent]

I download mp3 and cut it to vinyl for the best experience

[full fossil]

Not lossless

[hollow zealot]

Wan show vinyl

[gilded quest]

HI

[dreamy rose]

C: Windows/Media/Onestop.mid

[gilded quest]

The Vinyl Episode

[lucid echo]

It's an interview with Jack White & Conan o' Brien for Conan's podcast

[sonic barn]

There's no other option to download 1.5k songs or however big ur library is

[gilded quest]

Oh dam

[lucid echo]

Pressed at Jack's studio

[twin raptor]

I listen to music in every way listed. I trust my brain to fill in missing detail, except for pitch cutoffs. Those are unacceptable.

[gilded quest]

Hello internet also has a vinyl episode

Had*

Rip that show

[sonic barn]

Music is subjective

But quality isn't

[manic torrent]

ehhhhhh, at the lower end it is. at the higher end it absolutely is

[full fossil]

audio is an objective hobby

[dreamy rose]

i find the best music is Hidden in old Games.

[lucid echo]

8bit music covers beg to differ

[full fossil]

Pov: original Doom soundtrack enjoyer

[sonic barn]

If you use a eq these impulses are very good for your eq

[dreamy rose]

Yall ever heard the music for Fuckin BallBlazer?

[finite cloud]

Subjective mostly

[sonic barn]

https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq

[full fossil]

Far from it actually.

[finite cloud]

Why

[full fossil]

There are subjective parts but it's way less the everyone says

[full fossil]

Wdym why

[finite cloud]

Why is it far from subjective

[full fossil]

I am talking about audio not music. There are such things as correct sound reproduction

[stray apex]

Something something measurement objectivity

[finite cloud]

Yeah I’m talking about audio too

[dreamy rose]

the OG Doom IS LITERALLY the best soundtrack. don't care if the new songs are played by the king of Rock and on the Guitair made of a million Ghast Tears and gold. nothing beats E1M1 being belted out on a fucking dot matrix printer.

[full fossil]

Yes

[finite cloud]

Audio

[full fossil]

Just making sure

[full fossil]

Moondrop Chu

[graceful burrow]

Visual, technically

[finite cloud]

Well, yes

[lucid echo]

Reality is subjective yo

[stray apex]

Real audiophiles listen to jpegs and visualize the image in their mind

[full fossil]

Ear wax on the one to the left

[dreamy rose]

and honestly if you seriously have never heard the theme of BallBlazer then you need to hear it. ]

[finite cloud]

I’ve cleaned them since that picture

[lucid echo]

We're all hallucinating everything always, reality is just the hallucinations we agree on

[full fossil]

Good

[full fossil]

I don't want to get in actual objective facts if nobody's taking it seriously

[dreamy rose]

are you saying we've Deep Dived into a Virtual Reality thats different for everyone?

[lucid echo]

no

[sonic barn]

What created the universe if we all started from nothing

[dreamy rose]

the new AMD, Athlon processor!

[sonic barn]

Wrong it's the LTT store water bottle

[dreamy rose]

Wrong, its the Big Chungus LTT Water Bottle

[sonic barn]

It was so insulated that when it was opened it created gravity

And we're actually pouring out of the bottle which is making everything move

[sonic barn]

Limited edition

[dreamy rose]

i want a large Insulated water bottle like that honestly.

[mild bloom]

big chungus is still relevant?

[graceful burrow]

Hasn't been for a while

[full fossil]

Big chungus is the engineer behind 4090

[visual hatch]

Lol. it seems that on the latest video that Alex is trying to justify some of the things that nvidia is doing, yet while everybody else is saying otherwise

[dreamy rose]

nope. its just a Nickname we use now

[polar fern]

The older of my two power banks seems fine. 6600 mah.

[worn scaffold]

Iphone 6 and 6s are the 2 best Iphones of all time

[dreamy rose]

ipod was better though.

[vapid smelt]

your chocolate is gross and waxy

[worn scaffold]

I agree lmfao

[dreamy rose]

Sauce is better

[worn scaffold]

Hershey is carried by reeses

[polar fern]

Hershey is carried by -redacted-

As a Pennsylvanian, I know these things.

I bought this the same month it was manufactured. 👀

October 2015

Also wow I can’t believe the device info stickers came out in such clarity - especially with the flash on

[dreamy rose]

has the KFConsole came out?

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[visual hatch]

leather jacket drama

[dreamy rose]

KFC Chips

[visual hatch]

nah

leather jacket guy is pissin people off lately

jensen

no 😂

[dreamy rose]

no

how TF were we supposed to make sense of that without any context?

explains why you is laughing at a power bank

fun fact: DDR4-3200Mhz is just as fast as GDDR3.

[fluid ridge]

are lossless headsets good for gaming

[dreamy rose]

how much bass?

[fluid ridge]

does bass matter for playing games?

[dreamy rose]

shooters yes

[fluid ridge]

idk then

maybe like dolby atmos with csgo

[dreamy rose]

if your headphones don't have stinky bass then you're best using those for Music.

[slim yacht]

lossless that uses bluetooth, no

lossless that uses 2.4ghz then yes

which is usually the case with buying a gaming headset

some may prefer studio headphones to play as they have flat sounding audio
many just get decent gaming headset with virtual surround like dolby atmos, thx, dts

[vapid smelt]

gaming headphones suck

[dreamy rose]

no. not all

[slim yacht]

theyre okay, the emulate surround in games in much better way in terms of gaming compared to studio headphones

that is considering the game itself many times sucks in terms of sound stage

[dreamy rose]

my HyperX Cloud IIs are really good for games and okay for music.

[slim yacht]

altho you can get open backs studio headphones that can do well with games

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/atg-capa-stucapa-studiocapa-pandu-gif-24944581

[slim yacht]

im assuming you never had tried any studio headphones, some decent ones can destroy arctis pro's which in it itself have dedicated physical dac

some cost even less as well

[visual hatch]

i hated my cloud 2s

f you hp

the arctis nova pro wireless has much better bass/eq. thats what i upgraded to

hyperx doesnt even have a custom eq

[dreamy rose]

huh? does Dingus trigger warship?

wtf?

it just flagged me for saying the C word wtf.

[slim yacht]

currently the best you can get from gaming headsets are those from steelseries arctis 7 and above
but that doesnt even come close to studio grade headphone with some decent source
altho i have to say steelseries does decently well in terms of getting sound right

[visual hatch]

steelseries has a good first impression for me tbh

love the hot swapable batteries

and the retractable mic... ❤️

[dreamy rose]

as i was saying, Aussie Dingus Man said these were fine, i got them on sale and never regretted it. best i've ever owned

[rare solstice]

Anybody want to join my rocket league server i just created?

[visual hatch]

only issue i have with steelseries rn is... the ear cups

[echo ridge]

Pc37x>all

[visual hatch]

i can feel whatever the hell is under the foam

[dreamy rose]

Rocket League was killed by Epic

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[slim yacht]

one of the many reason why i stick with steelseries for gaming
i have hd650 lying around to actually hear good sound

[rare solstice]

i take that as a no?

[dreamy rose]

no as in no advertising

[echo ridge]

<@&750150305383186585> rule 5

[rare solstice]

okay

[slim yacht]

also voice feedback

you can hear yourself talking instead of feeling muted of your own word

[visual hatch]

ye

one of the few software issues i had thought with SteelSeries is discord

mic kept cutting out

disabled the ai noise cancelling for discord, and people could hear me breathing from miles away

had to do the steelseries ai noise cancelling

[slim yacht]

i never had that problem so im fine for the most part
i was using arctis 7 and then moved to pro

[visual hatch]

nova pro or just arctis pro?

[slim yacht]

just the pro with dac

[visual hatch]

ah

[slim yacht]

shit was expensive not gonna lie

[visual hatch]

how much were yours?

[slim yacht]

like 400?

[static stag]

lmao

[visual hatch]

oof

[slim yacht]

same price could get some good nice sennheiser open backs but nvm

[visual hatch]

before tax mine were $350 usd 😂

[static stag]

$400 headphones? Yall wild.

[slim yacht]

i spend 650 on a gpu, so why not

[visual hatch]

every other headset i've bought was $150 or less

if these last more than a year... i can justify them

[slim yacht]

good shit cost alot of money
life is pain

[red breach]

there's always a point of diminishing returns

[static stag]

Spent like $150 on my Xonar DX and Hesh 2s and scored the same on audiophile testing as these fools with $350 headphones and the Schitt Stack.

[visual hatch]

meh

these have bluetooth

[static stag]

So yea, audiophile stuff is mostly snake oil

[red breach]

and for GPUs that's anything beyond a 6600. Every dollar you spend until that point is worth WAY more than those after

[visual hatch]

it's buy a gaming headset with bluetooth as an added feature, or spend $150 on headsets that are 2.4 only just to spend $300 on Bose QC 45

[full fossil]

Lossless headset is only a problem with wireless headsets. And also it's lossless for nothing if the frequency response is garbage. And as all headphones are flawed by design working as minimal phase only until 2-3khz then phasing issues and such happen this why the treble quality on headphones is inferior to iems and speakers. One example of a phase cancellation would be the 9khz dip you see on most headphones wich is quite audible. And as most of the frequency range people care about in shooters is in the treble your pretty fucked.

[static stag]

BT quality still is mediocre. Maybe that will change with the new LE stuff but

[slim yacht]

i mean, my gaming headset have done well in assisting me with gayming
in my book it is payed

[red breach]

all wired headphones are "lossless". and BT headphones are shit for gaming

if you want a cheap wireless solution that works well check out the xbox wireless set. >$100 and runs off the same xbox for windows adapter the controller does

[static stag]

No no, I want to charge my gaming headset and have it die while im gaming

[red breach]

I mean, there IS a convenience factor especially if you're couch gaming

[slim yacht]

damn that battery life do be sucks

[red breach]

but at a desk, yeah I've been using the same pair of Bose for 15 years and that's not going to change

[slim yacht]

mine lasted about 25 hours before dying

[visual hatch]

man

[full fossil]

Yes all

[visual hatch]

how much are y'alls mouses?

[red breach]

the G305 lightspeed is the king of $/performance

[visual hatch]

people spend $150 on a g pro wireless

[static stag]

Xbox controller has a 3.5mm out, if I actually care. But if I'm playing on my couch it's on the big speakers, 7.1 setup.

[red breach]

but I have a G903 which is ~$100

[visual hatch]

im chillin with my g604 lightspeed

[full fossil]

learn to read a frequency response graph and understand my pain

[visual hatch]

no rgb

batter lasts 1+ months

[slim yacht]

was just 40 dollars
basilisk v3
i have steelseries aerox 3 wireless that was 150*

[visual hatch]

it turns on seconds after no input

[polar fern]

Audio science is insane.

[dreamy rose]

Logitech G300S. Was around 50 bucks on sale with same day shipping.

[visual hatch]

razer is horrible quality from my experience. everything breaks in a year

[dreamy rose]

AUD

[slim yacht]

i do read them graphs actually. but sometimes with open back my conscience disturbs me more than the game itself lol

[red breach]

razer shit is literal garbage

[visual hatch]

my audio keys on the black widow broke less than a year after purchase

on 2 different kb's

[full fossil]

Iems(say a eq'd TinHifi T3+)>pc37x

[dreamy rose]

I hear their Peripherals are okay but their laptops are shit.

[visual hatch]

i had that storm trooper razer mouse, the pads came off after a year

[slim yacht]

so far theyve been better, i still dont like them for how their product are so reliant to razer synapse

[red breach]

did I just have a stroke

[polar fern]

I think it’s amusing that aus & Canada have a dollar but they’re ruled by the folks with pounds sterling.

[red breach]

I've heard the opposite about the periphs. Bad switches in their mice, etc

[slim yacht]

yo their stock switches is not that good either
i can say romer g by logitech is far better, and thats not saying alot

[dreamy rose]

I've never used anything like that so i can't speak about them.

[full fossil]

Man you make me laugh.

[polar fern]

Depends on use & budget

[full fossil]

Scored the same on audiophile testing ? Tf you mean

[visual hatch]

man, i have to say that logitech kb is a nightmare also

ive rma'd this board 3 times

[polar fern]

Which model?

[visual hatch]

all within 6 months of receiving the new one

[full fossil]

because people are dumb and trying to say everything is subjective

[visual hatch]

it's the one linus has, but the wired version

[echo ridge]

Not Really ruled we just share a queen

[visual hatch]

the g815

[echo ridge]

*king

[slim yacht]

constitutional monarcy things

[polar fern]

I don’t know what model Linus has

[visual hatch]

he has the same one

[full fossil]

Bluetooth cans are pretty bad for everything

[polar fern]

@echo ridge I know.

[visual hatch]

at home, just the g815 lightspeed wireless

[full fossil]

Bruh Bose ? Bose ?

[dreamy rose]

Shes on our money, but thats about it. Hell even look up "Dirty Queenie 5 dollar note" you'll see what people do for fun with bills.

[visual hatch]

Only good thing i have from razer is this wrist rest, logitech cant be bothered to make one. these G keys on the left that are actually binded to f 1-5 piss me off also

[slim yacht]

actually samsungs buds 2 pro and apple airpods pro is quite decent with bluetooth
their loseless shit actually pays for something
(altho it only works if you pair it with their device)

[polar fern]

Bluetooth is best not used for audio unless the software can sync the signal with the delay cancelled out

[static stag]

as in telling various qualities of music, same track encoded at different qualities. There was a thread over on head fi somewhere with users posting their setup and their results and I scored the same as many others using setups many times more expensive. So... either they're deaf, or there really isn't nearly as much difference that the human ear can hear between decent and stupidly overpriced.

[full fossil]

I had bought a model O wireless right when it came out

[full fossil]

No ?

[red breach]

Yep. My gaming room is noisy AF because on the other side of the wall is my house's air conditioner

[visual hatch]

nice delete bro @supple sand

[polar fern]

Yes, it is. All the contours and signal timing & so on. It’s incredibly involved

[visual hatch]

can you take this somewhere else though

[red breach]

my QC15 are the ANC kings of 2008 and I haven't replaced them because they sound... great

[slim yacht]

audiophile things in general are complicated but once you get into it, it gets pretty easy

[visual hatch]

we're having a civilized conversation in here... go troll somewhere else please

[granite tinsel]

the only good razer product i've had so far is this dualsense charging dock and it's literally the same price as the first-party one while charging one less controller

it's a good thing i was looking for a single-controller charging dock that didn't have a hardwired cable and that connected via USB

[polar fern]

Ok I need food. BRB

[granite tinsel]

but like... you can't argue with the fact that it's worse than the first-party charging dock for like 80% of applications

[full fossil]

Razer makes no good products othet than like the viper ultimate and the deathadder v3. Oh yeah also Razer viper mini. Keyboards garbage audio products garbage. Mousepads garbage and pretty much the rest of their products line. Same for Logitech for the most part tbh. They have more nice mice though and like racing wheels.

[slim yacht]

i still remember first time using open backs while playing r6, i literally turned around hearing steps in reality lol

[full fossil]

Why

[polar fern]

Happy birthday momo

[full fossil]

Whats your opinion on 4000 series coming in a few weeks

[dreamy rose]

I like the Bose bose bose bose,
I like the buttahree bishcut bose

[red breach]

logitech 5.1 systems were killer for the price for like, 20 years running until they killed the Z506.

[granite tinsel]

i ran hifiman sundaras for a year before the ear cushions destroyed themselves and the right ear of the stock cable stopped working

[slim yacht]

too much money, dlss 3.0 dependent cards

[granite tinsel]

i could replace both of those but for $300 USD headphones it was just

[red breach]

bought one of those for like $50-60? shit BUMPED in my dorm room lmaooo

[full fossil]

Nah the laptops are good for what they are.

[granite tinsel]

ugh

[granite tinsel]

awful; wait for AMD

[dreamy rose]

Always wait on AMD to deliver

[slim yacht]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648012347583234082/856171779675914290/razer.gif
open this

razer used to blow up until the recent release of their 2021 models

[opaque mantle]

i cant discordcdn is not tructed

[granite tinsel]

also splatoon 3 has fucked up my ability to read 5.1 without thinking of funny sound lasers

[polar fern]

“I’m the pizza man! - I deliver!”

[red breach]

The Z506 was one hell of a set. 25w "sub"woofer, 75w total RMS in a 5.1 setup for like $50. One hell of a set

[dreamy rose]

Smh, fucking Intel

[slim yacht]

thank you, capybara is life

i pulled up long ago, where u been

[granite tinsel]

also the way they're dragging THX's name through the mud with shit like that soundbar

[full fossil]

The airpods or so much and o my of you're locked I to the Apple ecosystem and yeah I kinda agree the buds2pro are great for what they are

[visual hatch]

imagine owning anything apple

[full fossil]

Most audiophile forums are full of crap

[granite tinsel]

i'm gunning for the airpods max because after using various wireless earbuds for about 4 years my ear canals have made it clear to me that they do not like earbuds

[dreamy rose]

ikr, such fanboys

[granite tinsel]

my headphones for use with my PC tho are a pair of v-moda crossfade M-100's that i've had since 2016

[red breach]

I'm typing this from a 16" m1 pro

[slim yacht]

yeah i would not recommend airpods max unless youre gunning good anc and thats about it

[red breach]

legitimately the best computer I've ever used.

[slim yacht]

you can have better time with sony's

[full fossil]

It doesn't get better than Moondrop Varations in reality unless you go with speakers(Genelex coaxials)

[misty scarab]

If anything to the 0 power is = to 1, does that mean 0^0 = 1

[granite tinsel]

well ANC, if your ears hate earbuds, if you're using apple products, and if you want headphones that don't become unusable after like 3 years 🗿

i'm still using a pair of sony WF-1000XM3's in the meantime and the right ear has a battery life of about... 10 minutes

they're less than 3 years old

[full fossil]

Yeah most people think they got it but they haven't actually got it.

[visual hatch]

im typing this from a AMD powered system. Defiantly no NVIDIA gpu in here, imagine having a nvidia gpu

[granite tinsel]

my PC's all team red

[dreamy rose]

I dont bother with Buds. Buds suck

[slim yacht]

0 ^ 0 is always undefined (which means no meaningful value), you artificially state it as 1

[manic torrent]

Assume the answer to "is this bullshit and garbage" is yes, and you're pretty much right

[dreamy rose]

I wish i could say i had AMD Advantage.

[slim yacht]

anything not studio to audiophile basically

[granite tinsel]

i mean the AMD advantage isn't as great on desktop

[manic torrent]

no, EVERYTHING

[granite tinsel]

SAM and... like, what else?

[full fossil]

sighs

[slim yacht]

there is only pain

[visual hatch]

sam isnt much of an amd advantage anymore

[granite tinsel]

also has anyone actually heard of v-moda 🗿

[dreamy rose]

Smart shift has been a desktop thing since forever, right?

[visual hatch]

it's just RE-Bar under a different name

[manic torrent]

You can get very good value for money at the low-mid end of money, especially second hand. Everything else is SEVERELY diminishing to no return.

[granite tinsel]

ya ik but i find it easier to say SAM than re-bar

[slim yacht]

bro, beats by dre with monster cable

[full fossil]

Ear buds are at the bottom of audio quality

[granite tinsel]

ya but it's not all about the quality; it's also about portability

[misty scarab]

"all numbers to the 0 power are equal to 1"
Square root of -1 is i, and i^0 is 1, and e^0 is 1, etc. Therefore 0^0 must equal 1 or this Theroy is false

[dreamy rose]

RE-Bar is a shit name. SAM better

[full fossil]

Sundaras are not worth it.

[granite tinsel]

generally speaking there's room for two pairs of headphones for me to use regularly: one for my PC setup that's stationary, and one to take on the go

[slim yacht]

correct

[granite tinsel]

they weren't but as my first experience with open-backs they were nice

[visual hatch]

smart access memory is a marketing filled name

seriously though... sam for amd is all marketing

[granite tinsel]

thinking of maybe getting HD 6xx's in the future

but for now my crossfade M-100's have served me for 6 years; what's another 2?

[dreamy rose]

Still makes more sense the Resizable Bar? Whats a Bar? Why can it Resize?

[visual hatch]

Whats SAM? Who's sam?

[full fossil]

1TB model ?

[slim yacht]

amd actually made something that show it works to have people pair amd+amd products
altho i dont believe its significant enough for me to shift from team red + green to team red

[granite tinsel]

i mean, "smart access memory" is more intuitive than "resizeable bar" to the uninitated person

[visual hatch]

nvidia gpus support RE-Bar afaik

[misty scarab]

Here's something that will hurt your breain

i is not a real number, but it is real because it exists

[dreamy rose]

UNCLE FUCKING SAM!

[full fossil]

Muddy boi.

[full fossil]

Yes

[granite tinsel]

one neat little vertical integration is that AMD seems to be working on getting both CPU and GPU overclocking into radeon software if you have an AMD CPU

[static stag]

I actually use the v-moda boompro on my headphones, really nice mic + quality for the price.

[slim yacht]

i hate imaginaries lol
because you make a non existent 'i' value to an actual usable value which theoratically exist to solve problem
i hate it, begone thot

[granite tinsel]

same LOL

almost sounds like a $100 mic while costing $30

[slim yacht]

its better than airpods max what can i say
better than getting ripped off man right out man

[misty scarab]

Well i has a value and it exists

[polar fern]

Anyone else have the Z407 speakers?

[static stag]

best part is it stays where you put it.

[misty scarab]

the square root of -1 is equal to i and i^2 is defined as -1, and i^4 is 1

[granite tinsel]

well mine does tend to rotate a bit due to the fact it's literally just attached to the end of the cable

but yeah it's very stable

[slim yacht]

well 'i' actually dont have value at first, but it is included to co create value
by nature imaginary value are made to solve problems

[dreamy rose]

ok Algernon 🤓

[full fossil]

So basicly anything but frequency response, harmonic distortion and objective studies and measurements.

[static stag]

like it rotates at the 3.5mm jack?

[granite tinsel]

ya

[full fossil]

The new g14 is great

[granite tinsel]

not by much tho; doesn't really affect the sound profile

[slim yacht]

well thats amd + nvidia
but yes still great

asus vapor chamber is the shit

[dreamy rose]

i want the G14 But it lacks a second M.2 Slot and isn't 15 inch.

[static stag]

Yea mine does a bit but the mic itself on the boom stays where you aimed it. Till I drop the headphones for the 1000 time anyway....

[manic torrent]

ehhhh even then. I mean, as long as it sounds good to you. My wife can't tell the difference between a tinny piece of crap and a full home theatre setup

[dreamy rose]

false. its AMD Advantage. 15 is

[granite tinsel]

newest G14 iirc has a 6800M

[slim yacht]

zephyrus g14 is not an advantage laptop lol

lemme recheck specsheet

[full fossil]

Just get Moondrop Variations and apple dongle. You don't need more. Everyone is to lazy to actually do research and Just do this and stop listening to everything funny auzie man Danpods has to say.

[dreamy rose]

yes it is. 6900H and 6800s

[slim yacht]

holy shit it is advantage

got them specsheet mixed in lol

strix scar 17 se is still the most powerful in existence right now

and it doesnt thermal throttle

[full fossil]

They're both shit.

[full fossil]

Eh fair Ig

[dreamy rose]

Smart Access Memory makes more sense

[slim yacht]

name is fancy is all i can say about that

[dreamy rose]

the formfactor helps it immensely.

[slow thorn]

I put paper in my keyboard to make it thock

[slim yacht]

titan gp77 is larger than scar 17 se by a ton
scar 17 se is still a normal sized laptop

[dreamy rose]

type up E1M1 and Record it.

E1M1, at Keyboards gate

[slim yacht]

its just that last year after asus received alot of complans about their laptop running on fire, they developed a vapor chamber
that elevates their cooling performance very very immensely

shit can cool an i9 at 80w

[visual hatch]

i have a scar 15

i9, 3070 ti mobile

[red breach]

huh duh six hungos bay bee

[dreamy rose]

nobody really wants an i9 in a laptop tho

[slim yacht]

we have the same laptop lol
but mine is the ryzen 9 version

[red breach]

ol' mate senny

[full fossil]

Yeah fair. And better for android. If you're locked I the Apple ecosystem there is a reason to get the max.

[visual hatch]

o

[slim yacht]

yes if you want the best shit in a laptop you can get while not burning/cooking egg

[dreamy rose]

what we want is Threadripper laptops

[visual hatch]

lmao

[red breach]

airpods max aren't really headphones

[slim yacht]

waste of pci lane basically, nobody wants to do that

[slow thorn]

Got it sounding like a slightly less good orange switch

[dreamy rose]

i do. think of the framerate!

[full fossil]

Uh no lol. I am talking about the 2022 version.

[visual hatch]

yeah i wanna carry around some 10 pound "laptop"

[red breach]

they're... audio fashion accessories. They happen to have decent ANC but nobody cares a lick about how they sound other than "has bass"

[full fossil]

Untrained listener.

[slow thorn]

@dreamy rose #peripherals

[slim yacht]

you know threadripper dont really do better in games right? reports have indicates it performing less than 5700x

its not meant to game

[slim yacht]

yes yes i was wrong

[full fossil]

It also comes in lower species versions

[dreamy rose]

i meant making the song lmao

[red breach]

Apple knew this. They made them sound like $30 headphones because that's.... what they are. $30 headphones with a screenless apple watch on the side acting like an overkill bluetooth receiver so they can do lossless without paying qualcomm's license fees.

[full fossil]

6900HS*

[red breach]

I genuinely think the Koss 60 ohm shit sounds better than airpods max

[full fossil]

Yeah still shit

[dreamy rose]

hey, i don't belong in a CPU, Dont put the snake in it.

[slow thorn]

Nah man

[slim yacht]

even decent much cheaper iem's sounds better than airpods max at this point lol

[slow thorn]

But you gotta admit

The thock sounds pretty decent

[full fossil]

At that point it's stupid. Get a desktop or use a x16 with a external gpu

[red breach]

well cheap IEMs generally sound better than cheap headphones because more money as a percentage of the unit can go to the drivers

[slim yacht]

fam i need that laptop
powerhouse on da move

[dreamy rose]

would be cool to hear. hell ppl made Things like floppy drives and printers play Doom music

[full fossil]

Brhh

[slow thorn]

It's a cheap solution but it works

[slow thorn]

My blues now thock

[full fossil]

ta ta TA ta ta TA

[dreamy rose]

my Soundcard is the Samsung Dot Matrix FX4285 Printer

[full fossil]

They're not that great, I explained why headphones are flawed by design earlier today and the best headphones are the DCA Stealth at 4k with inferior sound quality to many iems. Also the Moondrop Variations are the best iems there are. You may say it's debatable it's not. I'm not going to argue it now but at 500 dolars it's not to high of an asking price.

[full fossil]

You're disgusting, using blues ?!

[past egret]

average audiophile elitist

[full fossil]

x16+external gpu>strix scar 17

[slim yacht]

i mean if you need a dac you can use apple dongle
that is if you have lighting

[full fossil]

No I'm a psychopathic objectivist

[past egret]

same thing then

[full fossil]

The Apple usb c dongle exists

[static stag]

Blues? Pshh, go get some Noble Yellows.

[slim yacht]

also that

[static stag]

Couldn't believe my brother actually asked for those.... the psychopath.

[slim yacht]

you can get justin bieber's iem

[full fossil]

No most "audiophiles" are actually just idiots bumbling ignoring objective facts trying to be subjectivity and throwing money at the problem.

[dreamy rose]

ewww.

[full fossil]

Bruh

What would that be beats ?

[slim yacht]

he uses ultimate ears

[full fossil]

[past egret]

yep

[static stag]

0 gauge power cables though

[full fossil]

Still fisgusting

[slim yacht]

[rough ginkgo]

how do i turn on discord member since

[slim yacht]

its automatic

[rough ginkgo]

how come i dont have it

[slim yacht]

huh thats weir

[slim yacht]

my friends inna nutshell

[dreamy rose]

no linked accounts? it doesn't show up with ppl who don't link accounts i think

[full fossil]

Cable people are stupid. Just get something with low impedance. If you get something past like a Linsoul Euphrosyne you're probably delusional

[slim yacht]

yo 300ohms headphone
gotta get them nice source fam

[full fossil]

That's an understatement btw. And just half a step below there s normies. Normies have somewhat inferior sound quality as they don't just throw the money at the problem because they don't care.

[slow thorn]

Anyone here wanna hear a blue switch thock?

[slender niche]

Hey everyone. I'm new here and looking to build a new PC. I plan to 3D print the case that Linus did the video for, but I don't know where to get things like the hardware threads to put in the case. Does anyone know where I can find a list of the stuff they used?

[full fossil]

Getting higher impedance and sensitivity headphones intentionately is stupid

[static stag]

You're talking actual speaker/headphone wire though right? These rubes buy power cables, like from an outlet to their amp/dac etc that are as fat as a snake to "change the sound"

[slim yacht]

[full fossil]

Yeah a cable isn't fucking supposed to change the sound

You get it for comfort low impedance and decent signal integrity

If you get a 2 dolars cable of course it's going to be shit

Oh yeah also looks I guess.

[static stag]

http://www.audiodrom.net/media/com_element/element_images/elem_718/front-shunyata-research-omega-xc.jpg

[full fossil]

Or your cable got broken

[full fossil]

USELESS

[static stag]

need that fat power cable lmao

[full fossil]

Also toslink is stupid unless it's the only option

[static stag]

it's hilarious cuz it's just going in to your wall cabling which is just plain jane normal 12/2 or worse unless you ran something special.

[full fossil]

Yeah

[past egret]

how is la croix more expensive than fucking ginger ale it just taste like water

[dreamy rose]

the world will never know

[glacial basin]

branding

[granite tinsel]

man i'm looking at comments on various RTX 40 videos and holy fuck i have not seen anyone say a single nice thing about these GPUs

i think AMD's finally poised to break out of their PR rut of people assuming their cards are crap and have bad drivers

that even with all of nvidia's sugarcoating and truth-stretching people are seeing past it all before the cards have even launched

[dreamy rose]

i mean they look like an upgrade. thats the nicest thing i can say.

[granite tinsel]

yep

RTX 40: "Better than the last gen to some extent!"

[dreamy rose]

RTX 4000: "Our cheapest 4080 is a 4070!"

i wonder if a 4070 is then gonna be a 4060 and so and so.

[serene stone]

everyone stoked for the new cards!?

[slim yacht]

theyre doing 4080 2 models like laptops now lol
that sounds like wanting to charge money just because they can

[serene stone]

[dreamy rose]

fuck no. AMD is way more exciting.

[granite tinsel]

i think what really stings for nvidia is that according to MLID the profit margins aren't even that much higher compared to last gen

apparently these cards cost 50% more to produce than last gen

[serene stone]

They created this price point to keep the 3x series alive in sales, that's the only reason unfortunately.

[dreamy rose]

is that really a bad thin

[granite tinsel]

turns out sacrificing everything at the altar of performance included the production costs

[granite tinsel]

not for us but it's the fucking nightmare scenario for them

[serene stone]

why did it cost so much more than last gen?

[slim yacht]

what i am at least thanked for tho is power consumption lol
tsmc saved them some meat for them to stay at 450w max

[granite tinsel]

they're torpedoing their reputation with people assuming they're just raising the prices out of hubris, all while not even being able to pocket that much

[dreamy rose]

the higher ups are gonna go with .5 less cents in wage than last launch, Oh fuckin no!

[granite tinsel]

again

turns out sacrificing everything at the altar of performance included the production costs

[half summit]

Don't you just hate when you're asking for a genuine question, then redditors come in and say that "You're farming for karma"

[granite tinsel]

yeah that is the nightmare scenario for them

also again the bigger deal is the reputational damage this is causing them

[serene stone]

performance jump is not that big outside RTX. "Up to 2x" in regular raster.

which is like 50-75% in most cases prob.

[slim yacht]

i need amd to destroy nvidia now. it wont be easy but they did with ryzen

[granite tinsel]

yeah which tells you that lovelace is actually a much milder architectural improvement that nvidia makes it out to be

[slim yacht]

and threadripper
and epyc

[serene stone]

Terrible investment to go all in at altar of performance for RTX performance only when vast majority of people just care about pure solid FPS.

[granite tinsel]

like it seems that most of the performance improvements just come from them bruteforcing it with the die shrink to TSMC N4

[dreamy rose]

IDC for Nvidia or Intel anymore. AMD is just poking them with a Stick.

[serene stone]

It's great for all new games, 2022 and beyond though, so there's that bet.

[granite tinsel]

honestly this is their opportunity to shine; nvidia has fumbled hard in a way we haven't seen since the turn of the 2010's

[serene stone]

I wonder though, will DLSS 3.0 be in OW2? Diablo 4? All new games I'm assuming will have?

[dreamy rose]

it'd be the perfect blow. like Slicing the arm off an opposing Knight thats locked in battle.

they are stunned, they just need to finish him

[granite tinsel]

according to MLID this might be because lovelace's design was finalized at the height of the global chip shortage; they assumed it wouldn't end for quite a while longer and designed the cards accordingly

[serene stone]

lol

[slim yacht]

also, sli is dead
not surprising but anyway

[dreamy rose]

Crossfire was always superior

[granite tinsel]

these prices wouldn't have mattered in the shortage and whatever performance gains they squeezed out would've tipped the odds in their favour against other similarly-scalper-priced cards

[serene stone]

MLID has good info, good catch.