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full fossil
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I'm currently living at grandma's, my actual "real" home internet speed is 20mbps

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too bad 1mbps up OMEGALUL

rugged dagger
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where are you from if u don't mind sharing?

full fossil
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indonesia

rugged dagger
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oh kk

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Well are there any big providers?

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Idk if they have fiber anywhere

full fossil
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yeaah that's happening rn at my real home neighborhood, construction has been going on for a few months now

rugged dagger
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are they rolling up GPON?

full fossil
rugged dagger
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oh I see

full fossil
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but those smaller ISPs have better deals and speeds, but most importantly fiber

rugged dagger
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let me look em up on BGP tools

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I can't find their ASnum

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Oh

foggy hatch
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Random question
Does iOS 16 break YouTube PIP?

rugged dagger
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They have a single 10gbit port to the wide internet

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Somewhere in Poland

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Wrong flag. Indonesia

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Yeah so first media could theoretically handle 10 customers at 1gbps, 40 at 250 doing full transfers across the globe

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They proabably have more than 40 customers with the 250 plan

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Ah, nevermind, one of their upstreams has a 150gbit port at equinix Singapore

full fossil
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How much does yours mobile data cost in Canada?

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I can get 100gb for £20 in the uk

foggy hatch
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I can’t give you exact numbers due to many factors

rugged dagger
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at Digi I can get unlimited starting at 2 eur/mo

full fossil
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It would cost me £35 for unlimited data with a speed cap

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you get that feeling of trying to chase your childhood high results in insanity?

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Igtg at school

rugged dagger
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Well if you go past 50gb you get capped at 20mbit on 4g and 100 on 5g

foggy hatch
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Also what extras do you get like hotspot or the Disney Bundle

rugged dagger
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Mickey mouse 4G TDD antenna if you get the Disney bundle 😉

foggy hatch
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TDD?

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Show me it

rugged dagger
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It's a type of band

foggy hatch
foggy hatch
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I’m going to bed. It’s almost 4am for me

trim meteor
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is it possible to run a minecraft server off NAS?

graceful burrow
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Ye

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Not one of those all in one nas systems like synology has though

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A nas you build and set up yourself definitely can

trim meteor
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do you have to install java on the nas or do you need a custom firmware

graceful burrow
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Depends on what nas os you choose to go with, if you decide to go with something other than windows

trim meteor
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i mean it would probably be running windows server ye

graceful burrow
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Tons of resources and guides online

trim meteor
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ok ill take a look ty

full fossil
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wait no there's 62GB for $14

manic torrent
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Looool, testing Far cry 6 on my egpu, gets 33 FPS in 4k and 31 FPS in 1080

supple sand
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heyo folks

manic torrent
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like and subscribe, hit the bell!

latent plank
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<@&750150305383186585>

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also this one too

full fossil
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Lmaoo 😭

small flint
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Some do

gilded obsidian
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its the same as the 12..

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That being said I preodered it for my wife because her digitiser is shot

halcyon ocean
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i like how there's a new 48mp sensor but it's not usbc so no

green kernel
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me: knows Pascal perfectly, as it is one of best newbie languages and as in my opinion extremely underrated and has enough stuff for all you want to do
my teacher in uni: Pascal ? what it is ? we learn crapton only, it has that one thing that requires a bit more definition in Pascal but pascal would execute anyway 10 times faster with compiler optimizations and be so much more intuitive

slim yacht
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its a worthwhile upgrade if what youre looking for is 14 pro max battery life
its got alot of things right in that package and is quite an upgrade over older 13 pro max
buying 14/14+ is basically buying 13 in a refreshed package lol

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im still gonna stay on android tho despite all this mesh of features

sonic barn
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iOS sucks compared to android

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Also you'll lack full control over your device

slim yacht
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gestures are complicated for first timers but ios are meant to be super simple to use
androids are somewhat like that but youre free to customize/set anything you'd want ( much more freedom )

sonic barn
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Yeah and apple, only they can use your data

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Android you can install something like lineage and then choose which apps you want to use

slim yacht
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'sucks' is not what i would call it, iphone users tend to like those simplicity
i obviously dont, thus android

sonic barn
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Android is pretty simple though

full fossil
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Hello so i put two noctua fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut on my 2070 S and now idel at 28'c max temp 63'c with a overclock.
2145.0mhz core clock
1962.7mhz memory clock
With this mod would my 2070 s be in 2080 territory but with less cores? or just a super super card now been stable never seen temps over 70'c after mod

slim yacht
sonic barn
slim yacht
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well all operating systems use your data

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surprisingly enough linux too ShanksTroll

woeful minnow
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with linux its almost always opt in

woeful minnow
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if its not theyre usually just taking hardware info

slim yacht
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yeah but generally anything that relates to operating systems will usually have some of your data chunks in store for whatever the reason is

sonic barn
slim yacht
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only difference is with IOS, their users usually have no clue/ or 'safer' apparently lol
and with android we just dont care KEKW

sonic barn
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Same with android if not using stock android

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Iphones can get hacked just as easily as android phones

woeful minnow
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im assuming by "stock" you just mean preinstalled

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not literally stock android

slim yacht
sonic barn
woeful minnow
sonic barn
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Yeah

woeful minnow
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which arent "stock", but they are "stock"

sonic barn
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Basically not how google envisioned

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Aka selling telemetry and user account data

slim yacht
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if youre talking stock android then its just stock android directly from google
other forms you find from oems are called custom ui

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they have different names for each other, but if 'stock', then its just directly google stock android

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no one ever called a samsung oneui a 'stock' samsung before

woeful minnow
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yeah but in the literal sense of the word it is stock for that phone

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its unchanged by the user

sonic barn
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If something runs at a preconfigured version of Android by OEM it's stock

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They are in control

slim yacht
woeful minnow
slim yacht
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thats why theyre call 'ui' at the end of their name instead of just calling it android 'version'

sonic barn
slim yacht
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no? you still have the normal android user control same with stock android
the only difference is the skin and feature set that comes with the skin

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and also some preloaded apps permanently embedded in the skin

sonic barn
slim yacht
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is that not ios tho? normal android phones generally just needs a google account login for google play services

sonic barn
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They collect account data

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Just like apple got busted for with icloud

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Google is tied to your email

slim yacht
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well of course they do. its android with a custom skin

sonic barn
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So you're always using their service based on your account

slim yacht
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even with custom roms you still need an account to run google services

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that is unless you just give a superuser permission to apk sideload app lol

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rooting/flashing custom rom in general does not really make u escape from getting your data collected, youre just free to do shit with android since its linux based system anyway. a 'superuser' can do anything they want

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the fundementals are the same as with desktop system

wary summit
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haven't used discrod for ages

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probably should end my nitro

wary summit
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i did that, its a pain in the ass, but the phone was never connected to WiFi or Cell Tower

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(you never know though unless you take out the fucking celluar module)

sonic barn
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I had a max spec surface pro 5 and it could run a lot of games

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i7 7660u 16gb ram 2tb ssd

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I played the ori games on it. However sold it like a month later

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Because I fixed the thing after it was locked in a boot loop

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Undervolt the cpu

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Use xtu or if the bios allows, lower the voltage the CPU operates at

fossil frost
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laptops overheat.. its just how modern laptops are because of apple making people think that thinner ones are better

sonic barn
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YouTube is your friend

night heron
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undervolting and repasting a laptop can get you a 25c cpu temp reduction sometimes

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it’s pretty huge

carmine merlin
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  1. clean out dust
  2. (if 1 not working) Re-paste
sonic barn
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Undervolting can boost your battery life as well. Had a razer blade 14 and after fixing the DC in thing and stuff I used it for about a year. You could get like -120mv and if configured to run at 0.8mhz max, then you'll end up with 10 hours of straight battery life and the CPU never consumes more than 4watts with the GPU also undervolted as well

slim yacht
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again, no

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didn u say u wanted to get refunds?

sonic barn
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Right now I use a Thinkpad x13 4650u pro and 16gb ram but the thing can't get undervolted

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5 hours of battery life from 80%

slim yacht
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might i remind you that latest mobile chip are locked from uv lol unless your oem allows for unlocking in bios

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surface is just not built for anything gaming bruh

carmine merlin
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could be that when they re-new'd it, they did not bother re-pasting (or at least use a crappy paste). Other than that, I don't really know

sonic barn
slim yacht
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much smaller heatsink (meaning smaller heat spreading area)
much thinner build (theyre meant to be portable)
fans dont kick in unless youre really pushing it (a bad thing, you throttle first before getting cooled, and also surface in it itself does not have the capacity to cool the chip)

they also fit in low power chip for the reason of it being used as a productivity based devices instead of gaming. if it warms up with chrome, you should just return it

sonic barn
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I tried flashing a custom image on a t14s Intel model and it just instantly reverted and cancelled it

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They have chips designed just to stop you from altering it's trash bios

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Helps with security though because you can unlock the device like that

past egret
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lol

slim yacht
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screw it i dont wanna type that agian

sonic barn
slim yacht
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no
same chassis layout and thinness

sonic barn
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What do you plan on using it for

slim yacht
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a normal 15 inch laptop can literally overtake it with passive cooling if you want to game

sonic barn
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Gaming laptops are pointless

slim yacht
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im using one, how so?

sonic barn
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You're better off getting a solid laptop and building a desktop, then streaming from your pc whenever

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If something breaks in a laptop it's better to get a new one unless parts are cheap, however with a pc you can upgrade since it's more modular

slim yacht
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heat degrades hardware much faster

sonic barn
past egret
slim yacht
sonic barn
slim yacht
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in laptops it definitely does

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hardware degrades over time anyway
what you can do is slow it down by not putting more stress on it

past egret
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when pc hot it melty

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that is no good

slim yacht
sonic barn
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It's good as a protogen toaster

slim yacht
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i used one personally right now, had a 2080 super build
Replaced it with 3070 laptop, performance are quite similar lol

golden talon
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Voltage kills electronics and heat speeds up that process

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heat cycling is probably an even bigger killer though

sonic barn
slim yacht
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cooling is also handled well even at full 80w load with temps maxing out at 81 degree c
so yeah gaming laptops are quite reliable now

golden talon
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Gaming laptops are great for a specific kind of people

slim yacht
sonic barn
golden talon
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Being able to take all that horsepower around to LAN and other places is just super useful

slim yacht
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i dont game outside
why do i need to game outside of home lmao

past egret
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floods and house fires

junior kraken
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the same reason you would need to game inside, to kill time lol

past egret
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tornados and earthquakes

slim yacht
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also 5 pounds is not that heavy lol
its pretty weird how many of you are weight sensitive

sonic barn
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I can game stream from my college at my house 26km away with my main pc

past egret
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incidental gas leaks

junior kraken
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well it's very considerable on your lap

golden talon
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thing is I hated my gaming laptop so i replaced it with my desktop and a macbook air for work on the go

junior kraken
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having 5 pounds on your lap over 2 hours would not be comfy

night heron
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if i had a laptop i wouldn’t want it to have a dedicated gpu

slim yacht
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unfortunately im not the kind to play games outside of home lol
the reason i buy gaming laptop in particular is so that i can game with powerful hardware at home and have 12 hours battery outside since i do computer engineering

night heron
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id rather have a lower power apu with a giant battery

sonic barn
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I can even use the Thinkpad perfectly with gloves in the winter

past egret
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who

slim yacht
golden talon
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My macbook air gets 20 hours of battery off a single charge and has enough power to run basically any productive app well

sonic barn
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If it's heavy

golden talon
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it’s also the second thinnest laptop in the world and one of the lightest

junior kraken
fossil frost
slim yacht
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eh my gaming laptop is top heavy instead of bottom
actually helps alot because weight distribution is perfect

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some other gaming laptops weight are designed heavily different to mine

sonic barn
junior kraken
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im not saying that they shouldn't do it, if it works for you, you do you always

golden talon
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gaming laptops are fine (except MSIs they’re garbage)

sonic barn
golden talon
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Yes. MSI is really really bad

past egret
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whats wrong with msi

slim yacht
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new razer blades is okay
i can even say its decent
msi gf lines lmao, avoid at all cost

golden talon
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What ISNT wrong with MSI? Lol

sonic barn
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Do a quick Google search for "razer QC"

fossil frost
sonic barn
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Their laptops are engineered to fail

golden talon
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I made an entire reddit post on how my MSI GS75 just completely fell apart after 3 years

past egret
junior kraken
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tbfair, i think they design their laptops to last such a duration

fossil frost
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for instance, i could quite easily strap on a 20kg backpack and go and run 10k in under a hour with that weight on (or 45 minutes without it)

past egret
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my gp73 died last month after 4 years

slim yacht
sonic barn
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Put the mosfets under the heatsink and let the fan be silent with their vapor chamber pushing all the hot air onto voltage regulators. This is fine....

golden talon
slim yacht
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also programming on macbook is jeezus
about one of the most annoying thing i can experience

golden talon
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??? Programming on mac is hella easy wtf

junior kraken
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battery life on laptops seems to have gone up, i remember my first laptop barely going past 3 hours

fossil frost
sonic barn
golden talon
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I’ve been programming on mac for years now

junior kraken
manic torrent
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programming ON it is fine.

golden talon
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I’m interested in their thought process

sonic barn
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I mean it's Unix so you'll be having the same experience as on wsl or Linux

fossil frost
junior kraken
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if a macbook can run stuff, it's great but sometimes classes require windows only stuff which isn't very fun

sonic barn
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Although Linux lacks a lot of c# and .net compilers

golden talon
slim yacht
golden talon
junior kraken
manic torrent
sonic barn
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There's not much programs for it aside from the paid intellij crider

slim yacht
golden talon
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Yuck powershell

sonic barn
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Vscode can do programs but you'll be pissed off with compilation times

manic torrent
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Powershell is like visual basic and bash had a baby, and it had foetal alcohol syndrome

fossil frost
sonic barn
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Also not proper debugging tools like in intellij stuff or vs

fossil frost
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there are perfectly good debugging tools built into vscode and dotnet for linux. i use them frequently

sonic barn
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Not many for c# on Linux

slim yacht
fossil frost
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rider, vscode, eclipse, monodevelop,

sonic barn
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Vscode is a code editor aka glorified notepad

fossil frost
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thats 4 i can name off the top of my head

sonic barn
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Rider is paid

fossil frost
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you didnt say they had to be free, you said there are no ide's

manic torrent
sonic barn
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Eclipse is good though

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Never heard of monodevelop

slim yacht
fossil frost
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and yes, full fat visual studio is a glorified text editor with some extensions...

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and with the C# and .net extensions in vscode, you can get a lighter, but almost comparable experience

slim yacht
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vs and vsc are probably the best looks tho imo

sonic barn
fossil frost
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you can do that with vscode

sonic barn
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And optimize it

fossil frost
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you can do that with vscode too

sonic barn
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🤢

slim yacht
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vsc extension, theyre amazing lmao
you can just do everything with it

fossil frost
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the fact that you dont like vscode, doesnt make it bad, or not an ide, it makes you closed minded and unwilling to actually try it out

sonic barn
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I have to use it for my college classes

junior kraken
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so there are free ides that can do it, you just don't like them

sonic barn
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Last year I lost like 15% on final project for not using vscode

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Which counts for 30% of final grade

golden talon
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Thats BS lol

sonic barn
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Indeed

slim yacht
fossil frost
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no, you didnt, you lost 15% because you did something wrong... you didnt lose 15% for not using the IDE they asked you to do

golden talon
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fuck kinda college does that

sonic barn
manic torrent
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I use VS code, I use notepad++, I use idea, I use vim, I use the browser..... mehhhhhhhhhhh

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oh also visual studio

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also a bunch of DB tools

junior kraken
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yea there prolly were other reasons, colleges won't do that, not without reminding you a thousand times anyways

fossil frost
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@manic torrent : same as me. using whatever tool is best for the job at the time

sonic barn
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I use the intellij stuff since it's free for me

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However I have stuff like dbeaver and open sourced stuff

manic torrent
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also, often enough I will get told to do something stupid - it's my job to make it clear that it's stupid. If they say do it anyway - not my problem. I'm happy to get paid to do stupid shit

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dbeaver is A+++++++

sonic barn
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Yeah it's cleaner than intellij imo

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Datagrip

slim yacht
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pretty sure your college allows for any ide's / distro to code to your liking
one is not limited to use specific ones. even us computer engineering side is not focused on one ide alone eventho object oriented programming effciently ultilizes turbo c++

fossil frost
sonic barn
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I might drop out though

fossil frost
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teaching java isnt "boomer", and using "boomer" in that incredibly ignorant way, shows that you have a lot to learn

slim yacht
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java is actually a good language to learn, very freaking useful actually

sonic barn
junior kraken
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for a lot of older companies, they still run java 8 on the servers/backend. so there is a chance you need to be able to work with that environment

fossil frost
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java is a C based language, and a C based language your college is already set up to teach. they are teaching you "how to program" and also "how to understand C based syntax" at the same time. they are not teaching you how to rely on modern shortcuts, they are not teaching you how to be lazy, they are teaching you how to think for yourself and solve problems on your own

sonic barn
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Also they spent 3 weeks on for loops 1st semester

sonic barn
golden talon
fossil frost
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so did i, when i was about 13, and at 37, i still understand that when i was 18, at college, doing a delphi course, i had to sit there, and go through it, so i could get the piece of paper that says i know what im doing, because that piece of paper helps you get a job when you are young

sonic barn
slim yacht
fossil frost
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it doesnt matter that i completed the entire 2 year delphi course in a little under 2 weeks... , i still had to turn up

sonic barn
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Idk but college lectures I don't like for learning

junior kraken
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that's how i see my college as well, i am doing it for opportunities and um social skills

sonic barn
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I prefer written stuff

golden talon
sonic barn
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Comes out to around 10 hours

full fossil
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🐮

junior kraken
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i have 4 hours per course per week

sonic barn
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Then I got English, humanities which are pointless and makes me needing to stay at the college from 8 to 6

junior kraken
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like 18 hours overall

sonic barn
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Takes me hour just to go to college

fossil frost
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gonna give you some free advice.... tough... suck it up... you have to do a lot of things that you dont like as a professional developer... there is always somebody above you who is going to ask you to do something you dont want to do... and somebody above them making them do that too... and ultimately, a customer who is paying for it, so there is no choice.... so, learn to deal with having to do stuff you dont like, because you are going to need to be able to deal with it properly

sonic barn
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Did enough of that

full fossil
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nobody does

slim yacht
fossil frost
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then you will have customers, and, you work FOR customers... and customers will ask you to do stupid shit... and they are the ones that pay you

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you always ultimately work FOR someone, because the money comes from somewhere, and that somewhere gets to decide what you do

sonic barn
junior kraken
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your time doesn't mean your decision tho

fossil frost
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no, they are paying you to do a particular job, the way they ask for it, and if its not done the way they want, they wont pay

sonic barn
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Afaik

slim yacht
junior kraken
fossil frost
sonic barn
slim yacht
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its even worse if you actually work with big developer companies

fossil frost
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freelance/contracting, will always come with a contract... and that contract will always stipulate that you do the work they ask you to do, their way, and you get paid at the end, when you have done it

junior kraken
fossil frost
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feels like you have a lot to learn about the world and how it works, and how the world of business works

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and when you do enter the real job market, you are going to have a very rude awakening

sonic barn
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But you don't have an obligation to do anything after your work is done

slim yacht
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thats assuming your job is done

junior kraken
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they decide when your work is done and not you

fossil frost
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the job is done when the customer agrees its done, and they wont pay until they agree its done

slim yacht
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you can take deloittle for example
this people run banking monitoring systems and have alot of outside freelancers working to develop for them
you are given this agreement letter with this pay and this time period to finish it. whats also in that letter is instructions how the job should be done. you dont meet their requirement, you dont get payed

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sometimes after your hard work and time spent and u fail, they wont even pay/reply to you ever again

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simply put, you work on their terms not yours

fossil frost
slim yacht
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they usually just advertise what needs to be done, you take the job and u complete is as per their instruction at a given time period
that means you signed a contract lol

slim yacht
fossil frost
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the legal fees would have cost more than the payment was worth

slim yacht
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ah shit true

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im still wondering how did we move from talking about gaming laptops to programming and then job contracts lol

fossil frost
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the only other time it happened was 2 years ago, the company i was fully employed by, just closed down when the covid furlough, and stopped paying everyone, stopped everything. so i got a new job, but also kept the £2000 laptop i had from them. and the £3000 test server i had from them in my attic too. got a new job about 3 days later, didnt even miss a payday 😄

sonic barn
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Someone mentioned macs and programming on them

slim yacht
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oh that was me lol

slim yacht
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so tldr, coding is fun anywhere you feel comfy doing it
gaming laptop is really good if you chose the right one
some may consider having a desktop and then a laptop to separate work gaming life

sonic barn
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Usually stuff like that is their assets though

fossil frost
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by choice, yes, while also claiming 100's of 1000's in government money

sonic barn
fossil frost
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yes, they are their assets, they owned them. but they fucked me over, so i fucked them over... i still had keys to the building (that didnt have cctv) for about 3 months afterwards... i was almost tempted to go and collect a few more laptops too... but ended up not doing

sonic barn
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I like how the companies were supposed to pay more for their workers but all of them pocketed the money

fossil frost
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now i work from home full time. its in my contract that im a fully remote worker... been here over 2 years now and been to the office for a "fun-day"... twice... and on those 2 days... we got free food and beer all day

sonic barn
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Is remote fun

fossil frost
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you need to be incredibly strict with yourself... my xbox is next to me... my tv is next to me... beer is in the fridge... my running shoes are near the door... its very easy to drift away from working and spend your day "at home" rather than "at work"#

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i do enjoy not having to commute though

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even though my commute used to be 20 minutes each way. and my new commute would be 40 minutes each way at the most... but... its more time back in my own day

sonic barn
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Nice

fossil frost
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i would say that its not for everyone, not everybody would be able to do it... and... i would say that everyone SHOULD work in an office for a few years first, to "get it", and get how business and working life works.. before committing to remote working

sonic barn
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Hmmm

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But do you think jobs that don't need office space will continue for in office workspaces

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Rather than doing everything online

fossil frost
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business people like people in the office, even if they dont NEED the office... its all part of them wanting to be in control of their business... some business people are coming round to "its cheaper to not have an office", but most business people are older people, who think that the world should stay the same as it always has

night heron
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remote working is going to get gradually more common

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certain things it just can’t work for

fossil frost
night heron
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most things it can’t work for

sonic barn
night heron
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basically only jobs done solely on a computer

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can’t replace anything manual labor

sonic barn
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Soon those robot dogs will flip burgers

manic torrent
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I work from home. I go into the office one day a month.

sonic barn
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Healthcare, dentists, etc will always have humans though

night heron
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that’s lit

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i would if i could

manic torrent
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And when I say the office - it's a co working space, so there isn't wasted dedicated space

#

Oh. I worked out my far cry 6 issue on my laptop. My single threaded performance over a few seconds is great, but it is quite low over more time. Multi threaded is perfectly good (low power ultralight laptop). This means that I get 30-33 fps in far cry regardless of settings, but I run 1080p high on Forza and get 80+ fps

bold dew
#

Should I buy a iPhone 13 pro or the new default iPhone 14?

polar fern
#

Omai I’m green

deft kiln
#

Without looking - how many videos do you think LTT has with more views than they currently have subscribers

halcyon ocean
#

13 pro

deft kiln
manic torrent
#

eh, I was close enough on an order of magnitude.

deft kiln
#

Wish.com PC has 22Million views, next most has 14.6M views, channel has 14.8M subs.

Linus wasn't kidding when he said none of their videos has ever gone viral

manic torrent
#

IT's no Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Official Music Video)

#

1,283,960,384 views

deft kiln
#

MrBeast has 40, CGPGrey has 50+

finite wigeon
#

Hello

manic torrent
#

yeah, because it's that way by design - LTT is solid dependable videos. It's a blue chip youtube channel 🙂

latent geyser
#

is it somehow possible to use RAM as VRAM

manic torrent
#

tldr no.

latent geyser
#

:/

graceful jackal
golden talon
full fossil
#

hiiiiiii

neon mesa
#

the "shared gpu memory" is literally your gpu using your ram as vram when its vram is full

neon mesa
#

then there's vega iGPU

manic torrent
#

Yes.

neon mesa
#

which straight out uses the RAM as VRAM

manic torrent
#

The "tldr no" is because if you have an igpu you wouldn't ask the question and it sucks anyway, and if you have a dedicated card, you kinda sorta can, but the reality is you can't.

latent geyser
#

i have 32gigs of ram and im hitting my 8gig vram limit on my gpu on msfs so i'd like to dedicate like 4 gigs of RAM to VRAM if it was possible

golden talon
#

It’s done on PCs with integrated graphics

neon mesa
#

yeahh the gpu uses ram as vram sort of like how windows uses pagefile as a fallback when ram is full

manic torrent
kindred sorrel
#

I need some pictures for my website and stuff, are there places to go to get that done

manic torrent
kindred sorrel
#

?

neon mesa
#

before i got my dgpu, my vega igpu hits like 4GB RAM usage when i touched halo infinite

kindred sorrel
past egret
#

or do you just need more pictures of spiderman

manic torrent
neon mesa
#

i'm gonna intentionally drive up a game's vram workload

manic torrent
#

... and what would that prove?

neon mesa
#

the usage of ram

past egret
#

that his pc sucks

kindred sorrel
manic torrent
#

As I said, it's driven by the game engine, the GPU doesn't page out memory.

neon mesa
#

it's still something used as a fallback when vram is full

past egret
manic torrent
#

GPUs are driven directly, it is nothing like using an OS that pages out

neon mesa
#

doesn't matter what pages it

manic torrent
#

It is not at all analogous to using an OS to manage memory

#

In the example supplied, Microsoft flight simulator simply needs more assets in vram than will fit. There is no resolution to that, other than to add more vram.

#

And given that adding more vram is generally extremely difficult, that means you need a new video card.

neon mesa
#

games don't just refuse to work when it's not enough

#

they just, go to shit performance

manic torrent
#

I see you haven't played AAA games on ultra in 8gb ram.

neon mesa
#

i mean if you got 8gb ram there's probably not even enough ram for the shared gpu memory in the first place

kindred sorrel
fossil frost
#

a gpu will remove stuff from vram, and put new stuff in, but, if you have 8gb of vram... and you need 9gb of assets loaded at any one time. it will 1. crash. 2. refuse to load in the first place. 3. be dogshit slow if the assets are streamed in and out from and to system ram, which is incredibly slow for a gpu to do

kindred sorrel
#

So put camera with facial

fossil frost
#

depends on the engine and how its designed

neon mesa
#

fps will just go dogshit

fossil frost
#

thats an over generalisation

#

1080p doom eternal on nightmare will pull 9gb

#

ultra-nightmare with ray tracing can push 12

manic torrent
#

Most games, especially older ones, simply don't use that much vram, so it doesn't matter

sharp steeple
#

VRAM usage and games is often misunderstood. Used vs. allocated, big difference.

manic torrent
#

But you want HD textures, high detail maps, open world, 4k, ray tracing... It adds up real quick

manic torrent
#

Given that in the context of a game, it's effectively not sharing.

fossil frost
#

yeah, read "allocated" as "reserved by this particular application and nothing else can touch it"

manic torrent
night heron
#

also have to consider vram speed

manic torrent
night heron
#

you can only be using 8/16gb and still be vram speed limited

manic torrent
night heron
#

yeah idk what you’re discussing

#

haven’t read the chat

night heron
#

using dram as vram swap would be kinda buns

#

vram is way faster

graceful burrow
#

Happens automatically for most things iirc

night heron
#

i dunno

latent geyser
night heron
#

i’ve played most of my games with max textures/meshes/models, and medium lighting/shadows

#

without antialiasing

storm rune
#

Was the beat saber modding discord deleted

night heron
storm rune
#

Cause I can’t find a link at all

manic torrent
graceful burrow
#

Shared memory should kick in and use dram for swap/page/whatever you want to call it

#

Hella slow tho

austere belfry
#

do i lose performace since my 1050 TI is running in pcie3 x8?

graceful burrow
#

No kek

austere belfry
#

no wonder half the pins are missing

fossil comet
#

If I Wanted to run a mid to high end PC with a 5800x and a 3060, while also running a few AAA games with lots of extra room for files etc. How many SSD'S shoukd I run and how big?

graceful burrow
#

7 with 128gb each
It'd be funny

fossil comet
#

Ok that would be funny

#

does it

graceful burrow
#

You can't just say "a few AAA games" and get anything resembling a good answer
We don't know what games
AAA games can range form 7gb to 250gb
Look up the games you want
See their sizes
Add them up

fossil comet
#

about 500gb of games

finite cloud
#

A terabyte SDD for games is what id go with and a 500 or 1tb ssd as a boot drive

fossil comet
#

Ok

turbid grove
#

Hi all
will the new x670 or x670e and b650 or b65E will have ddr4 ram support? or they just ddr5 only?

graceful burrow
#

Next gen ryzen will support only ddr5

tired glade
#

No support for ddr4 at all

ebon otter
#

i got the 6900xt for the name tbh

tired glade
#

Congrats

near nymph
#

My ridge look alike wallet seems to be holding up… I dropped it a couple times on concrete and took it swimming in a river.

#

Makes me kinda wanna get a actual Ridge Wallet

#

Since it can take a beating

ebon otter
#

i love you

dusty rune
#

how do you not carry any cash

#

i dont understand

austere belfry
#

cash is dead

dusty rune
#

naw

near nymph
lilac sage
#

cash is lit

near nymph
#

$600 doesn’t fit that nicely in my wallet

lilac sage
#

600 in 1s doesnt fit at all

austere belfry
dusty rune
austere belfry
#

probably would be less wallet bulge with a real wallet

lilac sage
#

thats the Ridge wallet megazord, dont judge

near nymph
#

Yeah… I’m happy with only my cards. I have 1 Card for the Bar, 2 Debit Cards from two banks, and 2 credit cards and a ID

dusty rune
#

jesus

#

more cards than i have money in my wallet

near nymph
#

I’m lazy. Canada is big. I want to be able to get cash anywhere I want without fees

ebon otter
near nymph
tired glade
#

What's tangerine?

near nymph
#

Bank owned by ScotiaBank.

#

I also have a Royal Bank of Canada debit in there

tired glade
#

Oh, one of those

near nymph
#

I use my RBC Avion the most

#

😎

#

I swipe the shit out of it. Maxed it out a couple times. My credit is going up. Pretty nice

#

Used it to get my LTT screwdriver

#

Points :3

#

I don’t carry a balance so it’s basically free money

full fossil
#

Hello guys can someone help me my official college Gmail I'd got hacked by browser hijacker i suppose and it sent mail to nearly 500 people with malicious drive link . What should I do please guide me. Already changed password and added 2 factor auth

near nymph
near nymph
full fossil
#

Please bro i seriously need tips and steps

near nymph
#

Yes… go ask faculty.

#

Report it to the school

full fossil
#

They wouldn't do anything they even don't know how to operate computer

#

On my side what all can i do

near nymph
#

Nothing.

#

You already changed ur password and two factor.

lucid echo
near nymph
#

Just make sure you remove the browser shit

#

If you report it to the IT department. They might be able to delete the emails

full fossil
#

Already reinstalled clear windows deleted all temp file data etc

near nymph
#

I mean nuking your install of windows works…

lucid echo
#

Ofc change the password of any other account that reused the same one

full fossil
#

Just to be on safer side🥺

lucid echo
#

Report it to your school

#

to the IT dept

halcyon ocean
#

if they don't know, what's the worst that will happen?

#

best to atleast try it out

lucid echo
halcyon ocean
#

i was talking about taking a visit to the IT dept

full fossil
#

Y’all seen the new 4090! Beefy as f

fluid ridge
# near nymph

i will now be using my xray vision to look at your RBC debit, BC services, and RBC avion credit card

near nymph
#

lol

fluid ridge
#

i really want an apple card

gilded quest
#

mmmm credit card debt

dusty rune
#

credit card debt

near nymph
fluid ridge
#

hard to get if i too am a canadian living in british columbia

#

apple card is exclusive to the US

near nymph
#

Even an a Canadian

fluid ridge
near nymph
#

Except why get it when the benefits don’t rly work here

fluid ridge
#

because it looks nice

#

and no fees linuth

near nymph
#

Unless you have USD income

#

It doesn’t make sense

fluid ridge
#

my bitcoin is making me gajillions

#

ill just withdraw in usd

near nymph
#

Send in your passport to the IRS.

#

Get a TIN

#

And a friend with a place in the USA

#

You can apply there

#

You’ll probably need to establish credit in the USA doe

#

Canadian credit doesn’t work down there

fluid ridge
#

help me pick a credit card

gilded quest
slim mirage
#

rip flightradar lmao

polar fern
#

Indeed

#

Everyone trying to track the queen’s final flight

slim mirage
#

it flew over me 🙂

polar fern
#

There must’ve been a very interesting moment for you

slim mirage
#

very epic moment indeed

slender willow
#

Hey, does anyone know if the WAN show has its own discord? or just floatplane? im new to discord and im trying to add all my favorite things.

#

nevermind, i think i just found it, im silly

slender willow
lucid echo
#

Just a channel. Floatplane doesn't have its own discord, just its own set of channels on this server

slender willow
#

yeah, i think im starting to understand how it works, so, this is the go to page for ALL LTT stuff?

lucid echo
#

Yep. There's a dedicated LTT Minecraft discord server, but aside from that it's all here

#

No memes. Don't be weird. Use the Principle of Charity. Welcome!

slender willow
polar fern
#

Purple power

lucid echo
polar fern
#

I cannot legally pay for most subscription services as I am on a government fixed disability income.

lucid echo
#

Gotcha

polar fern
#

Things like apple/iTunes and Amazon prime are fine, but most of the rest are not. Many such services will actually refuse payment.

lucid echo
#

Hardcore

polar fern
#

It can be a bit tiresome at times but I am thankful to have the resources regardless.

#

I am also glad that I was able to treat myself to the screwdriver as the other ratcheting screwdriver that I have is almost 70 years old and should probably be treated as an antique and cared for as such

errant vigil
#

Guys, i have to get a new pc and i am currently waiting to get gen 13 intel cpus and series 40 gpus
I am currently checking the leaks and with a budget of 1500 euros i probably wont be able to afford a 13700k and a 4070, any tips?

#

Can i switch the 13700k to a 13600k?

polar fern
#

Definitely make sure if you get a pre-built that it has good memory, I/O & storage

errant vigil
#

Nah im building it

polar fern
#

And the case should have plenty of ventilation

#

And the power supply should definitely be as high quality as you can afford

pine dew
#

what would you say is the "best" headphones for gaming is ? (i know there isnt one that is very best best obviously XD)

errant vigil
#

Never did it and i am going to put a lot of money on the line but idrc

lucid echo
pine dew
errant vigil
pine dew
#

but i feel like i could of gotten better....

gentle slate
#

is reddit scuffed for anybody else

errant vigil
#

They are like 100 bucks but i got them for 50 from amazon

gentle slate
#

The frontpage opens just fine. But posts and subreddits say theyre broken

pine dew
errant vigil
#

Why do you need an upgrade, those look very good

polar fern
#

I use a koss UR20 & Logitech H390. Both are good for games and music. I can’t imagine paying more than $100 for headphones or a headset unless you do audio production stuff.

pine dew
errant vigil
#

Yeah

lucid echo
pine dew
#

i feel like i could have gotten better sounding headphones...but i might have these set up wrong... idk

polar fern
#

?

echo ridge
#

70 year old screwdriver

polar fern
#

I think I was pretty clear… what are you confused about?

echo ridge
#

How what that screwdriver not dead

polar fern
#

My grandfather knew his hand tools.

errant vigil
#

Probably some issue related to the set up, my razer nari essential sound very decent considering i paid 50 bucks, gaming doesnt really require any crazy audio quality

#

If you want good sound then get open back headphones

polar fern
#

Time for lunch

#

Got some shrimp lo mein from a local Asian food restaurant

#

They have the best shrimp lo mein have ever had

lucid echo
kindred sorrel
#

Lol

polar fern
#

Rip Flightradar24

blissful star
#

With a ryzen 5 5600 and a 6600xt and 16 gigs of ram should I be hitting 144 fps on gta

polar fern
#

Depends on your settings

blissful star
#

Ok normal/ high settings

polar fern
#

Honestly anything over about 115 Hz your eyes aren’t going to be able to tell the difference

gilded quest
void gulch
#

26JWF-97964-KR64M-CD7WY-4RR7Z 1 month of pc gamepass

#

please tell me if you use it tho

#

last time i waited months till i found someone who actually uses it

sonic barn
#

intel's stock is dead

#

29.9

quick prairie
sonic barn
#

it got its stuff delayed

#

mobileye ipo

#

which is tech for self driving

lucid echo
sonic barn
latent geyser
#

does someone know if it's possible to make your own streamable? with your own URL and shit

quick prairie
#

if you know what ur doing yes

latent geyser
#

i meant is there some sort of tutorial or something that i could use

#

because starting from "scratch" is not something i can do

latent geyser
unborn flare
#

the video hoster

sonic barn
#

you can host a local server on your network

#

or through the internet through p2p

quick prairie
#

theres some open source software somewhere but i dont remember what it was called

latent geyser
#

i have a VPS with storage and i'd rather use that than pay another 13 dollars a month

#
  • benefits of using my own URL
quick prairie
#

ye a vps would be more ideal

sonic barn
latent geyser
sonic barn
#

bruh

#

what's the problem then

latent geyser
#

i don't want to build a NAS storage array and then self host it and deal with port forwarding

unborn flare
latent geyser
sonic barn
#

with microsoft stuff at school

latent geyser
#

no i do not have azure or similar shit

#

well i abused github pro and wasted the 100 buck credit but that was a while ago

latent geyser
#

i pay for my own subscriptions

sonic barn
#

bruh

latent geyser
#

no longer a student

sonic barn
#

sadge

latent geyser
#

it's like 13 bucks a month lol i dont mind

#

but i do mind spending 13 bucks a month unnecessarily

sonic barn
latent geyser
#

i don't want that

#

i already have a vps with a bunch of storage which is not being used that much whereas i find myself using streamable often but the limits aren't fun

if i can just repurpose that and get something similar for myself, then it sounds p good

sonic barn
unborn flare
#

the key

sonic barn
#

sort of like how you can remote into a computer

latent geyser
sonic barn
sonic barn
latent geyser
#

no, they charge absorbent amounts for them here

unborn flare
sonic barn
#

Yes eat the pie

quick prairie
#

theres literally no raspis in stock anywhere rn

sonic barn
#

delicious

latent geyser
#

i don't want anything to be connected to my home computer or my home wifi

sonic barn
#

bruh

quick prairie
#

wait no

#

80€

latent geyser
# sonic barn bruh

?? it would save me some hassle actually because no need to worry about network issues

sonic barn
#

20$ cad

quick prairie
#

electricity

#

is expensive

sonic barn
latent geyser
#

i am already paying for a vps with a bunch of storage and would much rather reuse that than pay more for a NAS server/pi or similar things

quick prairie
latent geyser
sonic barn
quick prairie
latent geyser
#

which i get at a discounted rate because i pay yearly

#

and i want to use THAT VPS, not do shit on my home computer/network

unborn flare
quick prairie
#

understandable

#

noone wants to do that

latent geyser
#

and now, the main question, do you guys happen to know any OSS software that does this now?

quick prairie
#

im searching

unborn flare
latent geyser
sonic barn
#

then you can open stuff within it

#

move stuff from that to ur computer and whatever

#

it won't use a lot of power even viewing content locally

quick prairie
#

even if its just 20w thats still 50€ a year

sonic barn
#

could prob limit the cpu to like 3w

quick prairie
#

if its running 24/7

sonic barn
unborn flare
sonic barn
#

you can wake up by the network

latent geyser
quick prairie
#

you guys are a bunch of idiots

#

honestly

latent geyser
#

your suggestions are wasteful and they don't make sense at all

sonic barn
teal estuary
latent geyser
#

like i've already said i want to repurpose existing hardware and you folks are going around telling me to buy an old office pc or spend hundreds on a new NAS

latent geyser
sonic barn
latent geyser
#

to setup a p2p connection not linked to your main pc, like you suggested:

  • buy raspberry pi
  • buy office pc
    which i and probably no one else wants to do
quick prairie
#

what if he doesnt want to share his ip with strangers

sonic barn
#

its free

lucid echo
#

networking paranoia is so entertaining to watch

unborn flare
#

indeed is

#

hello sanic

latent geyser
#

and i don't want to run it through my network and have it eat up my 250 mbps bandwidth for some videos

#

i need it, cant be running on like 70 and waiting

sonic barn
#

uses basically no power too

latent geyser
unborn flare
#

breh let him use his vps kek

sonic barn
#

well it negated your point

sonic barn
latent geyser
teal estuary
#

what exactly is it that you want to do?

sonic barn
#

there's this thing called an ethernet cable

teal estuary
unborn flare
latent geyser
lucid echo
#

Iheuzio is the most level headed, open-minded, non-argumentative person on this server, idk what you're talking about

latent geyser
teal estuary
#

i assume this is so you can send friends a video link?

latent geyser
quick prairie
#

bad sarcasm

latent geyser
lucid echo
#

He is none of those things

supple sand
#

i just got the blue screen of death while over clocking

latent geyser
lucid echo
#

Shoulda threw in the /s

teal estuary
#

do you need anyone else to be able to upload videos to it?

latent geyser
#

yes

sonic barn
#

basically they connect to your network to view the stuff

teal estuary
#

welp, there goes my main suggestion of pick a media server and use NFS/SMB over a wireguard tunnel to upload

latent geyser
#

i really just don't want to be bothered with that

sonic barn
#

fair enough but you could always set a relay point on the network

latent geyser
#

also do not want to be bothered with that

#

i'm "ok" at linux stuff and would much rather dump everything on there with no networking issues knowing things like web servers will be accessible for everyone than do it on my computer

#

and then I live in the UAE, restrictions are fun

teal estuary
latent geyser
#

yes!

#

i'm not a big fan of the UI but something like this is what I want

teal estuary
#

i just googled that, i dont endorse that project in any way

latent geyser
#

what did you use to search it? something similar to this is what i want

teal estuary
#

"self hosted streamable"

#

first reddit link has a link to its old github, which then links to that git repo

quick prairie
latent geyser
#

😂 yeah I just found it, thanks

latent geyser
quick prairie
#

this is the one i was talking about earlier, saw it used by someone i know

sonic barn
#

yeah but that program has to be running 24/7 if you leave it as a bot

quick prairie
#

and?

#

its a vps who cares

latent geyser
#

not on my computer so it doesn't matter

quick prairie
#

a vps is made to do this

latent geyser
#

the issue with what you suggested was that I would be the one paying for it

#

or paying extra to get this

quick prairie
sonic barn
#

thought you were hosting it

latent geyser
#

i am on a vps, i already own which is paid for the year

sonic barn
#

so you only pay a service fee to use theirs

latent geyser
#

i'm not sure it's a service fee

quick prairie
#

prolly management and electricity

latent geyser
#

you pay for a virtualized linux machine which has all the networking stuff already sorted out for you (mainly just opening/closing ports and setting up basic firewall rules to protect yourself iirc) and can install whatever you want on it

quick prairie
#
  • some overhead so the provider profits
latent geyser
quick prairie
#

ye

sonic barn
latent geyser
#

yeah, i paid like 80-85 bucks a year for this vps

#

and another 15 on lots of storage

#

and it serves other usages as well, i'm not using this ONLY for video streaming

sonic barn
#

tax evasion

latent geyser
#

????????????

sonic barn
#

if its a personal business you can put it as a tax credit

#

= tax evasion

latent geyser
#

like i mentioned earlier, i live in the UAE, more specifically dubai

#

therefore i do not pay for tax

sonic barn
#

bruh

latent geyser
#

just in case you're wondering, i did not move to the UAE to not pay tax 😂 i've been living here a couple years now

maiden sky
#

Guys im search system for 2 in1 laptop

sonic barn
molten drift
unborn flare
sonic barn
#

anyone following stocks

#

They're bipolar

lucid echo
#

My mental health has improved dramatically since I stopped messing with stocks

quick prairie
#

no its genuinely kinda stressful

#

but i dont care its free moneys

lucid echo
#

That's worth more to me than the gains from any short put

sonic barn
#

reduced to atoms

#

I discovered options

quick prairie
#

mine never existed :>

sonic barn
#

I mean at least its not crypto

#

at least with stocks you'll fall asleep either disappointed or dopamine

#

with crypto the market is open 24/7

quick prairie
#

crypto is a hellhole

sonic barn
#

then people say its a currency

#

when irl they just want number to go up

latent geyser
quick prairie
#

oo cool congrats!

latent geyser
#

it is literally a self hosted streamable copy and i think i'll love it, thanks a lot for your help!

lucid echo
#

people say stocks represent the health of the economy
when irl they just want number to go up

teal estuary
#

huh, i might actually set up one of those myself

quick prairie
latent geyser
#

it's worth it if you don't want to pay for streamables yearly plan, and I don't because that works out to 156 dollars a year (and i dont want to pay upfront)

quick prairie
#

atleast to some degree

sonic barn
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can't imagine being in europe

quick prairie
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:c

latent geyser
lucid echo
junior tide
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what going on

sonic barn
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I only lost like 10k but people are saying we haven't even seen a crash

quick prairie
sonic barn
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but I got my gov loans and bursaries

lucid echo
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It may mean executives are making bank but doesn't reflect the material conditions of working people

gilded quest
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part of it is that a lot of stocks have been overvalued the last few years

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Feels more of a market adjustment rather than market crash

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but i'm no expert blobshrug

sonic barn
gilded quest
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like infinite growth wasn't possible forever people

sonic barn
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we should return to monke

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barter with runescape gp

weak bridge
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not financial advice
I feel like microsoft is gonna make some plays someday

gilded quest
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corporations need to re-evaluate their business models and set realistic expectations for shareholders

sonic barn
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they are basically dead now

lucid echo
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if I had a nickel every time I've heard that

sonic barn
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the same can be said about them, however the situation is terrible

weak bridge
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not financial advice no like microsoft been building they gonna strike bro trust

gilded quest
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ARC might get murdered but Intel is far from dead

sonic barn
gilded quest
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they already killed Optane and SSDs
Seems like intel is trying to refocus on it's core product lines

lucid echo
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If Google has taught us anything, you can kill off half your product history and be perfectly fine

sonic barn
# gilded quest ARC might get murdered but Intel is far from dead

arc is apparently getting cancelled. Mobileye is getting valuation reduced, possibly delayed (maybe both). They have earnings drop for the first time in like 20yrs, their ceo has like 154 million salary payroll and dividends eat up the companies ability to put money into r&d

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at least arc on the consumer side, data centers have a use of their features

gilded quest
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public companies were a mistake

sonic barn
lucid echo
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If I'm gonna get financial insight from anyone, it's gonna be a child on a discord server

sonic barn
gilded quest
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shareholders will always prioritize profits over people
such a shame

sonic barn
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we're moving towards a new economic system

gilded quest
lucid echo
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wild we're all just okay with having a ton of lil' authoritarian monarchies running a third of our lives

sonic barn
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good time to be alive when everything is collapsing, queen dies. Fortnite is the most popular game. Linus tech tips has 15mill subs almost.

gilded quest
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Can't wait for the inevitable Corporate Congress

sonic barn
gilded quest
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lol it wont

lucid echo
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I miss being that naive

sonic barn
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money will get replaced by some social credit stuff

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we'll be china

quick prairie
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the usa will never be communistic

lucid echo
sonic barn
gilded quest
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its just gonna be a slow (painful) shift from the endless consumption based economy to a scarcity based one

white yew
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sanic i got a m3 mac book is it a cop or not

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m2*

gilded quest
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half the news: "Impending recession"
other half: "Businesses shutting down because they can't find any workers"

sonic barn
gilded quest
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COVID saw a huge shift from "experiences" -> "consumption"

gilded quest
lucid echo
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This is derailing very quickly into the "no politics" umbrella

sonic barn
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finance

gilded quest
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yeah i was trying to strictly use economic terms lol

gilded quest
lucid echo
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'we're just talking about history!' - some guy in here fawning over 1930's germany

sonic barn
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there's the standard business cycle and its in the process of entering a black hole

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james webb telescope can't even see it

gilded quest
full fossil
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most wanted 2012, f1 2018, project cars 2, dirt rally or grid 2

sonic barn
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that's why we need to bring it back

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would be cool if we get some asteroid that heads towards us

lucid echo
stoic beacon
lucid echo
median idol
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Oh boy here we go OMEGALUL

lucid echo
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Anyone who says they've figured it out is either a child, delusional, or selling you something

stoic beacon
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Far too many people believe that 99% of questions in life have one answer. Nearly everything is a multistep answer though, and the way the world works is so many steps that overlap on top of each other that it's just a tangled mess.

There is a reason why legal documents are several hundred pages long.

thick willow
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Ay

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Just a quick question

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Are flagship smartphones really worth it ?

ocean narwhal
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not really

lucid echo
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I want a really nice pocketable camera for nature and concerts. So for me, yes it's worth it.

stoic beacon
sonic barn
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No

gilded quest
thick willow
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This year there are a lot of good mid-range smartphones
But most of them are having a big disadvantages

stoic beacon
sonic barn
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There's cheap phones

gilded quest
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well, in the US with carrier deals flagships are super worth it

stoic beacon
thick willow
stoic beacon
lucid echo
stoic beacon
sonic barn
gilded quest
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last year my sister got a Z Flip3 for $200 when she traded in a broken S20FE

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to verizon

stoic beacon
gilded quest
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works for us

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I think verizon did $1000 off a S22U, with upgraded storage, with S9+ trade in

stoic beacon
thick willow
finite cloud
stoic beacon
gilded quest
thick willow
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Aight, I’m thinking about poco f4, galaxy A52s, pixel 6a

stoic beacon
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Though none of those are "gaming phones"

ocean narwhal
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Galaxy A series is short for "Galaxy Planned Obsolescence"

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(the A is silent)

thick willow