public-chat

[atomic latch]

or wait and then get the 3k series

[wary summit]

smart ones*

hlaf od them look bent

[manic torrent]

no that has the stupid coolermaster ports - it will probably work, but uuuugh

[atomic latch]

below 400usd (560aud) is pretty fking hard

[uncut axle]

Idk if i would get any rgb things, I’m not the biggest fan of it

[wary summit]

dremel?

[atomic latch]

they are all in 700+

[polar fern]

You shouldn’t need a $500 graphics card to play a $40 game.

[manic torrent]

yeah it's wonky AF, but hey, it works.

[manic torrent]

that is a garbage take

[wary summit]

i need a cheap one ;-;

[uncut axle]

For my current pc something like a gtx1650 should be fine

Knowing my pc isn’t super great

[polar fern]

I don’t even have a graphics card and I can play whatever game I can download without a captive launcher

[wary summit]

thats like sasying you need a 12 billion dollar computer to launch a 12billion dollar rocket

[atomic latch]

3060 can probably run every AAA at 60+fps?

[wary summit]

[wary summit]

no

on what Ultra settings? or meduim?

what resolution?

[atomic latch]

i dont even play AAA anyway

[wary summit]

DLSS? or FidelityFX, give us the variables

[polar fern]

I’m just saying that my Mac mini for example was $700 and I can play most games pretty decently on it. The fact that someone’s paying slightly less for just a graphics card is pretty nuts

[atomic latch]

3060 is probably enough for me

[uncut axle]

My current gpu has like 1gb vram💀💀 the cpu is probably the best part, while still having a bottleneck

[wary summit]

6600XT

[uncut axle]

I mean it was originally designed for server type stuff, so ofc it isn’t great for gaming

[manic torrent]

So, because your use case is X, everyone elses is the same?

[wary summit]

RX6600+R5 5600 = $600 AUD

[polar fern]

I just don’t think that the expectation should be there anyone would be willing to pay almost $1000 in some cases for a graphics card for playing a video game. I think the market is very inflated and folks should stop paying these prices

[uncut axle]

I’m guessing I will build a pc in a year or two, idk

[manic torrent]

The market WAS very inflated, now it's back to just normal inflated 😛

but people want to play games, clearly.

[polar fern]

It reminds me of the big hype around wheels and tires back in the early 2000s

[wary summit]

yea a kid spent 1.7K aud on a 3060ti at my school

[manic torrent]

wtaf. I spent $1500 aud on my 3070, but it came with EKWB block

[uncut axle]

Whenever I build a pc (depending on the deals) I might go used rtx 2060 or new rx6600, idk yet, it will probably depend on prices and what I can find

[polar fern]

I remember this dude bought a extremely expensive set of rims for his Honda and the way that they were built meant that they hit a pothole and could break they’re not practical they’re just for show

[wary summit]

i go to a private school in Malvern... its normal, i roll up to school on an electric scooter :P

[uncut axle]

Rx6600s are much less used, I would save much money

[polar fern]

Malvern PA?

[uncut axle]

Lol

[wary summit]

RX6600 are decent, since FSR

[manic torrent]

yes, where they use AUD.......

[polar fern]

🤣

Hey I have no idea we have town and city names here from all over the world

[uncut axle]

Yeah, if it’s about the same price than I will probably go rx6600

[wary summit]

newer+ all things in one App

[polar fern]

We have a Camden, a York, a Perth Amboy

[wary summit]

unlike nvidia

[uncut axle]

But idk how the 2000 series prices will be whenever the 4000 series comes out

[wary summit]

will float the same

[uncut axle]

I will look at prices than, but for now the 2060 is cheaper

[wary summit]

RTX2069 now with free 🔞 games in 69K UHD HDR 69+ 69%DCI-P3 420FPS

[uncut axle]

Lol

[uncut axle]

It will probably be in a year or two before I build it, so idk how prices will be

[polar fern]

I run a SFX42069ti with 1 tb vram -nods-

[uncut axle]

lol

Did I say my current gpu have 1gb vram? I have 60tb vram

[wary summit]

69tb*

[uncut axle]

True

[wary summit]

hey, you never know that might* happen

[uncut axle]

I was debating putting it there

[wary summit]

*i will make it happen

[uncut axle]

Lol

Anyways I should go to bed, it’s like 2:31 am rn for me

[polar fern]

My Lenovo is small form factor, so whatever graphics card I end up putting in eventually is not going to be super amazing

[neon mesa]

radeon pro SSG pull up with 2TB VRAM

[uncut axle]

I spent too much time trying to figure out custom icons on windows, for a stupid video

[polar fern]

did you actually figure out how to do the custom icons?

[uncut axle]

Basically finding the Minecraft (Java edition) icon and making sure it would lead to a rickroll, but when I made it go there I couldn’t use the Minecraft icon

With shortcuts and stuff

[neon mesa]

lol meanwhile i just made an entire pack of icons for my desktop

[uncut axle]

I’m using windows 7 rn (I will probably upgrade soon), and idk how to do that

[polar fern]

@manic torrent agree or disagree with my views on things, they are fairly informed and or informed by experience. Any knowledge gaps that I find along the way I am happy to fill with learning.

[uncut axle]

I didn’t wanna spend a ton of time on that

[manic torrent]

dude. Your position is clearly not in sync with reality

[polar fern]

I still stand that graphics cards are overpriced and/or people are willing to pay too much for them.

[manic torrent]

I didn't say that wasn't the case

[uncut axle]

I had to edit the video instead, since I didn’t know how to make custom icons

[manic torrent]

Your contention was that people shouldn't do it and that nobody wants it.

[atomic latch]

whats the best Price Per Frame GPU right now?

[polar fern]

I think that people love with the cards can do as long as they don’t explode and overheat, but the power requirements and the pricing is just a little bonkers in my opinion

[neon mesa]

💀

[rotund prism]

I love how the regulars are still the same here, even half a year later

[neon mesa]

nvidia has them features but definitely no in Price per Perf

[atomic latch]

whats the best price to performance GPU rn?

[polar fern]

@rotund prism hayy

[rotund prism]

Hello!

[polar fern]

I think I’ve been here since late 2018

[slim yacht]

if you dont care about rt and shaders, amd cards are very good
Fsr is also doing well at the moment. its technically a value over nvidia

[polar fern]

I don’t Remember.. Back when I started using discord

[neon mesa]

i mean the 6900XT is 3090 performance at 3080 price
soo that's a good price per perf card

[uncut axle]

I think amd wins in the whole interface area

[atomic latch]

whats FSR?

[neon mesa]

6900XTs goes as low as 700

[slim yacht]

yes and then theres 6950xt which performed better as well

[uncut axle]

I’m guessing you could call it “interface area”, idk

[neon mesa]

6950XT is a ripoff card

it's not big of a difference while being substantially more expensive

[slim yacht]

amd fidelity super resolution
basically an amd version of dlss

[atomic latch]

i prefer nvidia, whats the best price to perf rtx?

[atomic latch]

ahhh thanks

[neon mesa]

the cheapest 6950XT rn is 1000 in PCPP
it's 700 for the 6900XT
yeahhh tell me that 5% perf is worth 42% more price

[atomic latch]

i havent been researching pc things for 5 years, i just need a pc now so idk anythign anymore

[uncut axle]

The 6600 card used and new is about the same price, I guess people really like that card🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[neon mesa]

since when 6600 used go for 1000$

[polar fern]

I guess my point about pricing with graphics cards is that it shouldn’t be like a sports car not everything about a computer should be as expensive as it can be just because you can play a $50 game with good fps.

[slim yacht]

none kekw
if you ask a good priced rtx card then 3070/3080 with 10600k

3060ti is okay too actually

[uncut axle]

I see them going for like $250-300 on eBay (usd)

[neon mesa]

and 6950XT goes for 1000

they're nowhere the same price

[atomic latch]

im looking at building a whole new PC within 2k, i have a PSU already

corsair gold 650w fully mod

rm650x? i think

[polar fern]

If you’re trying to build a new computer within that budget I definitely wouldn’t go for all of the top tier stuff except for the power supply which is an important component

[atomic latch]

i have 2666 ram but i think i need to upgrade that

[polar fern]

A good cooling system is also worth money

[neon mesa]

you can't get much using that 650W PSU

[atomic latch]

16gb corsair 2666 ram

[uncut axle]

I wasn’t comparing the 2 prices of the cards, I was talking about the rx6600 being about the same price new and used, I guess I didn’t make any sense first

[polar fern]

The cooler you keep your components the longer they will last

[neon mesa]

at 2k not including psu you can easily buy top of the line specs but that psu is definitely not gonna hold

[atomic latch]

yeah ik, looking for the 2fan GPUs at least and then maybe AIO but thats subject to change

[crisp isle]

I have a 5600x + 3070ti with a seasonic focus 650w gold and it is holding very well

[slim yacht]

theyre probably trying to sell you faster bandwidth memory
that does alot to non gaming based workloads. if you want to game just get 6900xt. in reality there about 5-10fps different only

[atomic latch]

650 , from what ive seen is enough

[wary summit]

i have a 5600X and a RX6600, with a 450W EVGA BV 💀

[slim yacht]

you need bigger power supply sir

[neon mesa]

not for a 2k$ system

[atomic latch]

i dont need to max out 2k

2k AUD

[neon mesa]

go ahead and run a 3080/RX 6900XT on that

[atomic latch]

not USD

highest ill get is 3070, anything more is too much performancce

[crisp isle]

If you go Ryzen 5/I5 + 3070ti 650w is enough. But if you to go 3080 or above them you need more

[slim yacht]

in that case get a 3060ti and 12600k. save some bucks for good ram and better psu

[wary summit]

thats a i7-12700K (150w) or a R7 5800X3D (105W)

[polar fern]

11th gen core i7, or a ryzen 7 and a 500 gig nvme ssd, 16 gig 2666 mhz ram

[atomic latch]

i dont even really want 3070 because its not really necessary for me

[wary summit]

ew

[neon mesa]

11th gen

[wary summit]

get an Asus Zephyrus G14/15

[atomic latch]

no thanks

i got 14inch MBP

[wary summit]

VIC? SYD? where u from

[atomic latch]

Syd

[polar fern]

Well I’m basically poor so everything I do has to be budget minded. I really don’t have the luxury in sitting back and pondering massively expensive single components

[atomic latch]

do i really need a new PSU?

[uncut axle]

How is the performance on the rx6600? I might think about using one in a future build, I probably shouldn’t start planning but I just like to plan the whole thing out first for whatever reason, even if it’s means planning it out a good bit before I do that thing

[polar fern]

Naw

[wary summit]

guys, there ia s problem with my phone, If its hot (40+deg) the seconds simcard works, but if its cold it says 2nd simcard not working

[atomic latch]

650 isnt that small either, its a gold corsair one as well

[granite shell]

is running deluge/sonarr/radarr/plex on my main server and storing on my unraid server a bad idea?

[slim yacht]

here's what, if you wanna stick with 650w then you can go for 5600x/5700x/5800x3d. those chip are really power efficient. and then you can choose any gpu to your liking

[wary summit]

1000 fps on valorant, 200fps on minecraft, in genral a great 1080p card

[uncut axle]

It should be perfect for what I want than

I would probably be doing 1080p gaming

[atomic latch]

i was planning on sticking with 650w PSU, and ryzen because when i built pc it was cheaper

[slim yacht]

then you can try 5800x3D and 3060ti

[uncut axle]

And my monitor can’t go past 1080p as well

[wary summit]

you'd rather go 6700Xt with that for Infinity cache to save power

[polar fern]

The two biggest factors when figuring your power supply limit is going to be your CPU TDP and your graphics peak load wattage.

[wary summit]

@atomic latch try go AMD + AMD

[slim yacht]

are u in a rush ? you can just wait for 7000 series ?

[uncut axle]

It’s kinda a old monitor, dell e2417h i think, it’s perfectly fine tho

[wary summit]

cuz intel 12th is pwoer hungry af

[atomic latch]

700 for that CPU then 3060ti another 800, 500 for case MB and cooler

[wary summit]

then the normal 5800X

[atomic latch]

not in a rush

[slim yacht]

or 6800xt / 6700xt with 5600x

[polar fern]

Intel 11th gen core i7 trust me you won’t regret

[slim yacht]

no

[atomic latch]

whys that?

[wary summit]

Amd infinty cache / fabric

[atomic latch]

i would run shaders and stuff and at least would liek to try

[polar fern]

@slim yacht I will eat your kitchen

[wary summit]

if you need RT then go nvidia, but intel cpus are power hungry af

[slim yacht]

fam 11th gen intel is probably intel lowest point in silicon
its actually not that great

[polar fern]

So?

[slim yacht]

identically a 10th gen variation

[wary summit]

@atomic latch or

[atomic latch]

i can just use ryzen, its worked well for me since day 1

[atomic latch]

outta budget

[slim yacht]

why would i spend money on last gen when 12600k ?

[atomic latch]

if i add a 3060 in there, its already at 2k

[polar fern]

Because the wattage & thermals don’t work

[wary summit]

and you need an expensive af cooler lmfao

[atomic latch]

AIO for 150 is doable

[slim yacht]

its not 12900ks

[wary summit]

@atomic latch

this is good

[atomic latch]

o thats fine

[slim yacht]

i would definitely pick that bundle tbh

[wary summit]

my 5600X is doing really great, spend more on an AIO and OC that CPU

[polar fern]

Whatever go on spend $2000 and then end up needing a new power supply. Can’t say I didn’t try to help.

[wary summit]

i have the bundle, slightly diffrent ASUS mobo though

[slim yacht]

sir total load of 5600x and 6700xt is 450w

[wary summit]

this was the one EVEN CHEAPER

[atomic latch]

is it weird that i have preferences for Asus MB and some nicer looking ones?

im willing to pay for my PC to look nice and stuff

[slim yacht]

u dont need higher than 600w psu to run amd components at the mid end

[polar fern]

Whatever you say my brother.

[wary summit]

i have a prefrence on asus and xiaomi for everything

[atomic latch]

ok cool, thats perfect for me then

[wary summit]

im running a 5600X and RX6600 on a 450W 💀

[atomic latch]

i really like the aesthetics of asus strix MBs

[wary summit]

FACTS, white?

[atomic latch]

ur PSU is at like 90% then lol

[atomic latch]

YESSSS HAHAH

[wary summit]

i NEED the Asus Zephyrus G14 ITS SOOOO GOOD

[atomic latch]

i themed my whole pc around white last time and painted the other parts

[atomic latch]

its a sexy laptop, didnt buy it because i had a PC and just needed a portable laptop that was able to do Uni things

[slim yacht]

what id advice is to not go rgb and buy better components instead
they tend to get cheaper without sunshine and rainbows

[atomic latch]

all apple ecosystem anyway so MBP

[polar fern]

So this is where you guys and me differ I don’t see computer building as a hobby I see computers as something that I buy and use. And using it will also cause issues with heating and cooling in my house and electrical bills so I mean I guess if you have just money to piss down the drain by all means

[wary summit]

i hate apple©️. with a passion

[atomic latch]

im just thinking of getting normal MB, and nice AIO, case and if needed, extra RGB fans

[atomic latch]

too invested in the ecosystem, whole family

[wary summit]

NZXT H510 White + glass

[atomic latch]

thats what i was looking at as well

[wary summit]

lemme get my frind to send you a photo of a pc i built for him

[slim yacht]

get a noctua industrial instead if youre gonna spend money on rgb stuff

they cost as much and cool your shit down very well wihtout rgb thing

[atomic latch]

i dont need RGB on everything

AIO with RGB fans, then use Noctua on other areas

[wary summit]

dont, your pc is white

[slim yacht]

especially with nzxt h510 lol
gotta need all the air you can pull

[wary summit]

sorry i meant NZXT H510 Flow

[manic torrent]

The h510 is a fucking awful case

And if I ever see one again, it will still be too many

[wary summit]

H510 Flow?

thats ample cooling

[atomic latch]

ok so R5 5600, 3060TI, asus MB, 650w psu, H510

[manic torrent]

The flow is still the same shitass internals

I hated it so much

[atomic latch]

then slap a NZXT AIO in it

[wary summit]

you should see my case then

[polar fern]

@manic torrent this?

[manic torrent]

I did, I tried to keep my lunch down

[atomic latch]

tahts so hot

[slim yacht]

would you like to consider something better then ?
you can spend on ekwb

[wary summit]

airflow...

[slim yacht]

yes, its literally hot

no airflow hot

[atomic latch]

i would, but i remember EKWB all being custom and needed heating and stuff

[manic torrent]

That's not what an actual computer looks like

[slim yacht]

they have aio's

[atomic latch]

they do now

[manic torrent]

Ekwb makes a very good aio

[atomic latch]

when did they make them?

[slim yacht]

long time ago actually till now

but they have probably the best custom rads out there

[atomic latch]

how are their fans on the AIO?

[manic torrent]

Perfectly cromulent

[slim yacht]

sir of course they are

[atomic latch]

how good are their fans on the AIO****

[wary summit]

my lunch is back on the floor

[polar fern]

Muahaha

[slim yacht]

ekwb's rads in general are very good. fans they include is decent

[wary summit]

the top left is the offender, the other angles are fine

[slim yacht]

if you wanna change to better fans, you can too

[atomic latch]

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/49272/ekwb-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler-240mm-d-rgb

[polar fern]

200 mm fan in front

[wary summit]

Corsair 360mm fan where

[slim yacht]

i cant open the link lol
im blocked apparently

[atomic latch]

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48875/nzxt-kraken-x53-240mm-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler

[manic torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375445211280572437/999636440969400451/IMG_20210712_104251648_HDR.jpg

[atomic latch]

ok so EKWB 240mm vs Kraken 240mm

[manic torrent]

That is what a real computer looks like

[atomic latch]

150 and 199 respectively, which one is better

[polar fern]

I still really like this case

[atomic latch]

fans, cooler, waterblock all combined, which one is better

[wary summit]

its like $69 from Centrecom

[slim yacht]

ek of course

[wary summit]

i saw it 7 months ago its so heavy and tall

[polar fern]

I don’t care what the prices I like the design and look of it

[wary summit]

its a bit tooo tall

[slim yacht]

nzxt pumps in particular..... they have issues with failing pump in the past

idk what the condition is now

[wary summit]

wish my case had airflow

[atomic latch]

NZXT has really nice designs

[slim yacht]

you can get a corsair. but theyll cost more

[polar fern]

2x200 mm fans. Yes they do make a mesh front version of this case or at least they did

[polar fern]

What the heck is that thing

It’s like there’s a mesh behind a mesh behind the mesh

[wary summit]

@polar fern is the one you sent, Aero One duo, Aero One frost or Aero One eclipse?

[atomic latch]

alright so corsair AIO are good too, but more expensive than EKWB but better performance than NZXT

[polar fern]

Eclipse

[slim yacht]

thats not really how you conclude it. their performance vs each other are pretty negligeble
price separates them

[polar fern]

I’m pretty sure it’s the eclipse but it might be duo I’m not sure it’s been like three years since I last looked at it

[wary summit]

looks the same to me but diffrent fans and diffrent prices

you pay more for less RGB

[polar fern]

I do believe they have some parts of the case that are different even if just slightly so

[wary summit]

thats like the Redmi K40 / Mi 11i / POCO F3

[polar fern]

I really wish they would bring back their big fan cases

[atomic latch]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WPtjRv

around 2k

[polar fern]

I would totally build a Linux computer if they brought those cases back

[wary summit]

go X570

and NO DO NOT GO VENGANCE

[atomic latch]

why x570 and why no vengance

[stray apex]

don't go x570

vengeance is fine

[atomic latch]

couldnt care less what ram it is, cant see it in the case anyway

[stray apex]

vengeance qc kinda ass

[wary summit]

not that, vengance is known for using mixed dies, and not hitting speeds

[stray apex]

but it doesn't really matter

[wary summit]

^

[polar fern]

Steve from gamers Nexus would love this

[atomic latch]

then ripjaws or what is recommeded?

[stray apex]

ram is ram, unless you're gonna be a nerd about it

[wary summit]

my breakfast is now on the floor

[stray apex]

if you can get something better for the same price, sure

[atomic latch]

trident Z looks nice but its like extra 80$ lol

[wary summit]

c'mon use RIPJAWS at least @atomic latch

that cooler bit bum for the price

b550 is fine... but X570 is more 'premium' apparently

[atomic latch]

what speed? 3600? or what

[stray apex]

nah

[atomic latch]

or go for ddr5?

[wary summit]

buy a good set of 3200

[stray apex]

doesn't matter if you don't need the i/o

[wary summit]

you can't

[atomic latch]

r5 doesnt support?

[wary summit]

R3,R5,R7,R9 dont support it. YET*

[polar fern]

you know it’d be really cool if with discord when you mute the channel muted everything not just new message alerts

[atomic latch]

i have 2666 2x8gb can i just mix in other speeds? i know its not the best but it works right?

[wary summit]

no no no

you could, but everythign will be 2666

[polar fern]

No you’re not supposed to mix different speeds

[wary summit]

or if you OC the 2666 ro like 3000

[atomic latch]

thats gonna break my ram

[polar fern]

Different capacities is not great but different speeds is bad

[misty plover]

Can i boot windows from a usb?

[polar fern]

Yes

[misty plover]

Like it has the windows installation on it

But can i just boot through it temporarily

[polar fern]

Yep

[misty plover]

Thank you

[polar fern]

👍

[atomic latch]

how do i transfer all the data from my 256 ssd and 512 gb to 1 other ssd

[polar fern]

Very slowly and carefully

[atomic latch]

my original boot drive is the 256, i want it on the 512 or if i get a new one, all on the new one

[wary summit]

preferably using a laptop

because if power dies at least the laptop has a battery

[atomic latch]

guess a macbook pro wont help

[wary summit]

not if you use boot camp and install linux

[atomic latch]

have to use parallels

[misty plover]

I tried calling Adata
Theyre always "not available"

[atomic latch]

bootcamp isnt a thing on M1

[polar fern]

You could use an external hdd or a high capacity flash drive

[misty plover]

[wary summit]

ahh, m1 i see

[graceful burrow]

Linus doesn't read chat

[atomic latch]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YJFzXy

[wary summit]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GXXxxs

[atomic latch]

this is technically all the things i need to buy because i can jsut use my old SSds and then my old PSU

[weak bridge]

if u never directly address your messages to a person, youll never be disappointed when they dont respond

[polar fern]

He wants a glass of malk

[wary summit]

well, since your going 5600X, i'd say go with an AMD card, Infinity cache is really good

[wary summit]

someones never returning

[weak bridge]

since you're going with a PC, i'd say go with an amd card

[wary summit]

me

anyone want a Pentium 4?

as i said Pentium 4

[craggy sequoia]

like intel 7000? i have a i3 6100 so it would be a good upgrade

i need more cores

[wary summit]

yuo don't get more cores nescereily

[craggy sequoia]

oh i just realized you didnt say i5

i might be a bit tired

[atomic latch]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jBQtLs

[polar fern]

This is one reason why I was like buying these types of USB drives. If I ever need to take a chunk of stuff from one computer to the other

Minecraft come out in like 2009

[wary summit]

^

[polar fern]

So if it was around in 2009 or 2010 should be able to run Minecraft at least that version

[wary summit]

did you know my phone can run minecraft at 900 fps nativley?

[polar fern]

I just remembered that I need to get a new USB drive brb

[craggy sequoia]

i bet even a core 2 duo could run minecraft

i dont know how laggy theyve made it since 1.14

[wary summit]

very.

[craggy sequoia]

1.13 was such a laggy update my friends stayed on 1.12 for years

[atomic latch]

are h510 elites fans good?

[wary summit]

wheres the storge?

[wary summit]

wheres the storage

[atomic latch]

i can use my old SSDs, mgiht not need it

[wary summit]

i said nativley (java)

[wary summit]

kul

[atomic latch]

are NZXT aer fans any good?

[wary summit]

from what ive seen its decent

Windows 11 ARM.
kiddo, do your research

[atomic latch]

the h510 elite is a really nice case

[wary summit]

yea, but kinda no airflow

[atomic latch]

i know

[wary summit]

no one asked.™️©️:R:

[atomic latch]

whats a similar design case with good airflow?

[wary summit]

HAHA

[wary summit]

Flow, or something from corsair

[polar fern]

I swear there’s someone at Best Buy who is trolling us with their pricing

[fossil frost]

what phone do you have?

[craggy sequoia]

that reminds me i need new fans. im using nearly 7 year old bundled case fans, i had to unplug the front one cause the noise was unbearable

[wary summit]

makes sense

why he can't run Java

[fossil frost]

then no, cant run java

[wary summit]

Android = Java = Yes

[fossil frost]

android as an OS is 1 massive JVM 🙂

[wary summit]

microcenter free 128

be 13+

[polar fern]

I need 256 gig

Let’s not share private personal information

[wary summit]

thought your supposed to read the rules

[fossil frost]

tbh, i dont know why nobody has tried... it should be possible to get java edition to run on an android phone

[wary summit]

i have lfmao

[polar fern]

Yeah that doesn’t mean you have to answer them unless they’re moderator of this channel

[wary summit]

i said "be 13+" now, how is that a question

im not wrong, minecraft java is rated 13+

[polar fern]

Never volunteer information that can be collected and used against you

[wary summit]

10+

Minecraft is rated E10+ (Everyone 10+) with a Content Descriptor for Fantasy Violence. It also has Interactive Elements for Users Interact (meaning players can communicate online if they choose) and In-Game Purchases (meaning the game offers the ability to exchange real-world currency for in-game currency or items).10 Mar 2022 - esrb.org

i said Java

[polar fern]

I swear some kids these days just want to share personal private information just so they can feel cool about themselves which is really sad and scary

Minecraft is actually a pretty scary game when you think about it

[craggy sequoia]

360 version is very outdated, dont know why you would go off of it

[wary summit]

i know, i don't get why they try to prove a point so hard and dig themselves into a hole

we could tell...

[polar fern]

I think that part of schooling should be a year long course on online security and protecting your personal information

[fossil frost]

its because they have grown up in an age where sharing that information is common and made to seem like not a big deal. where as we (well i at least) grew up in an age where you didnt do that

[wary summit]

24 week course is more suitable (length of most online Uni courses)

[polar fern]

I am talking about kids are like seven years old

[wary summit]

lmfao

fair point

[fossil frost]

my kids primary school teaches personal info security as part of their IT and technology class

[polar fern]

You’re going to need time to teach them what passwords are and so on and so forth complex concepts that need thorough explaining to avoid misunderstanding and potential harm from the misunderstanding

Yes exactly not all school districts do that though

[wary summit]

anyhow, having the word Blox is convicing that your not old enough to use discord, don't get me wrong (adults do play roblox) but its concerning

[craggy sequoia]

my school tried to teach me homerow typing but my hands were just too small for it to be comfortable

[polar fern]

Smol hanz

[wary summit]

what about Joe Biden?

[craggy sequoia]

i still struggle to use my pinkies for anything besides shift and enter

[wary summit]

bideon deez nutz

[polar fern]

I have the opposite problem it’s one of the reasons why I like full size keyboards

[fossil frost]

basic stuff like what personal information is, and what is ok/not ok to share, though they do do a bit of advanced stuff like what phishing and spam and social engineering is, and that they should be aware of it, but dont go into depth on those things

[polar fern]

Interesting

[wary summit]

bruh, crypto is sht so is tiktok

[polar fern]

Crypto is ultimately a scam that uses carbon emissions as a way to spend money

[craggy sequoia]

yeah i have large hands now, looks kinda funny with my tiny wrists

i mean it kinda is

[polar fern]

Yeah well it’s hard to spend money when everything is dead and flooded so

I for one care so you can take that as you like it

[fossil frost]

sort of like right now when its hard to use electricity and gas in parts of the world because 1 arsehole wants to swing his dick around

[carmine merlin]

I cannot tell if brams is yrolling or not

[polar fern]

Oh that guy

[graceful burrow]

If it's hard to tell you're incredibly gullible

[polar fern]

I’ve heard that guy is very non-healthy and could actually be leaving us soon 🤷‍♂️

[graceful burrow]

Both bramsey and juicebox are shitposting

[polar fern]

I’m seeing lightning out the window here awesome

[craggy sequoia]

https://xkcd.com/1732/

[polar fern]

I would like to have a giant summer storm by the power not go out thanks

[fossil frost]

ive heard it both ways. theres no real confirmation

[polar fern]

In any case what’s going on over there is incredibly heartbreaking and difficult to process especially with the ongoing global medical situation(s)

[thin fjord]

somethings happening somewhere

[carmine merlin]

Yes.

[polar fern]

Don’t worry about it

[fossil frost]

tbh, it seems tough now, but just wait until the northern hemisphere starts to roll into winter, will get even worse

[thin fjord]

Bramesey

[carmine merlin]

-🤓

[graceful burrow]

💋

[polar fern]

I guess we’ll just have to wait and see and hope for the best

[fossil frost]

im having solar panels with battery backup installed :), im hoping for the best but preparing for reality

[polar fern]

Yeah. Although I find it fascinating I am definitely extremely fatigued and mentally trashed by living in unprecedented times

🤣

[fossil frost]

children are so easily "offended" these days

[polar fern]

Exhilarating tale, broseph

Have any of you seen the lake superior posts on Twitter? They’re absolutely brilliant and Savage

[manic torrent]

Yes, they are excellent

[manic torrent]

I could really go for some precedented times

[polar fern]

Same

[slim yacht]

quite an irony considering your takes in the past

[polar fern]

Earlier I dropped my wahl trimmer on my glass bathroom scale.

Lower blade popped out of the trimmer.

Scale unscathed

It dropped blade first

Gotta update my Amazon review

[amber shuttle]

Day unmade (blade snaps)

[stray apex]

well, a blade isn't gonna damage glass just by falling on it

[polar fern]

The whole 3 lb trimmer with thicc blades fell

[carmine merlin]

A blade is made of stainless steel. Its softer than glass

[polar fern]

It’s pointed

I’m examining the scale now

[carmine merlin]

I have demostrated that glass is harder than stainless by trying to scratch a screen with a blade of a scissor. Did not scratch. If it were made of plastic, should scratch

[slim yacht]

a normal glass wont be shattered by 3lb trimmer considering it was not thrown and fell instead

considering velocity/force is higher than natural weight itself then it can be different case

[clever relic]

i am finally updating my drivers after like 2 years

lol

[full fossil]

Hello!

[polar fern]

Normally to get this blade out, the other one needs to be unbolted

Gotta find me screwdriver brb

[hollow haven]

i know where you can get one

https://tenor.com/view/agatha-wink-gif-20772888

[carmine merlin]

||lttstore.com?||

[amber shuttle]

I meant the reverse

[wary summit]

i need to buy a|| ||

https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/wj6d2j/transparent_poco_f3_thoughts_ideas/

[polar fern]

RIP

[polar fern]

Well I could order a replacement blade set but the entire housing actually cracked open while it was running when it fell

So in the trash goes

[full fossil]

Yo I got my LTT T shirt

[polar fern]

I was looking into getting another slim Logitech keyboard for my Mac mini with the Apple keyboard layout and apparently they don’t even sell them anymore

[full fossil]

Hey @polar fern

[polar fern]

@full fossil eyyyooooo

Which shirt?

[jolly onyx]

ayo my desk pad is like a day or two away from delivery

[polar fern]

Nice I absolutely love mine

Much older picture but you get the idea

This was before I got the Mac mini

[jolly onyx]

i just cant wait to to see shipped for the backpacks

[polar fern]

I cannot even remotely afford the backpack but I do plan to order one of the screwdrivers

[jolly onyx]

ive been looking for a backpack thats gonna last years through college and traveling to europe from the us so i thought i might splurge

[polar fern]

As a former New York City tour guide I can tell you that a good backpack is worth its weight in gold

[jolly onyx]

it is crazy though to think of the numbers on backpacks too lmg made a lot of money back

nearly 4.9 mill just on the backpack sales

not to include possible other purchases made during checkout

[polar fern]

I actually had a backpack that I left on the train & someone found it on the train and claimed it belonged to their cousin. I really miss that one is it was extremely sturdy and fully waterproof

[jolly onyx]

rip

[polar fern]

Indeed

[vapid moss]

lttstore outsold ncix's busiest day

[polar fern]

That was definitely a feelgood moment

[jolly onyx]

yea considering that after 30 minute of the floatplane video almost 8k backpacks were sold i could understand

[polar fern]

I don’t know what this floating plane is that you’re talking about

🤣

[vapid moss]

[jolly onyx]

[polar fern]

I actually still have a pretty decent backpack that my girlfriend got me from Aldi, another backpack from I have no idea where probably Costco

And I have my EF Tours backpack in very poor shape

[jolly onyx]

[polar fern]

I am not affiliated with EF Tours but I did have two of their backpacks - one of them is the one that got taken on the train

[jolly onyx]

tbh the ltt backpack is my first expensive backpack all my previous backpacks have been $50-60 backpacks

[polar fern]

Mine have all been gifts because I am poor but yeah

If I did not have any backpacks and there was no pandemic going on then I would probably ask for one for my birthday or something

[misty plover]

I tried booting from a usb that has windows installer on it
It just prompts me to install windows on one of my disks
Is there no option to just boot from the usb itself?

[jolly onyx]

tbf those $60 backpacks lasted all through my high school career and its gonna last a month into my college career at least untill my ltt backpack get here

[jolly onyx]

no there are other programs to do that

[stray apex]

ltt backpack seems to be optimized for someone who travels with a lot of tech

[jolly onyx]

im gonna have a shit ton of tech tbh

[stray apex]

so for something like school where you really only carry the bag between classes, it's probably overkill

[misty plover]

I see
Ty

[carmine merlin]

how big is it? If its like 16 in I would consider

[stray apex]

backpacks are usually measured in liters
dunno how you would do length

[jolly onyx]

apparently some have said to fit 17" laptop

[polar fern]

@stray apex I never carried my laptops with me to the city, but I’d consider it with that LTT bag

[carmine merlin]

I have a 15.6 in laptop and carry it from home to school a lot and maybe a backpack designed to carry lots of tech might be what I want

[stray apex]

you can carry a laptop in almost anything

[jolly onyx]

heres size info from lttstore.com

[carmine merlin]

15.5 in is the max
my laptop is 15.6

[polar fern]

This is the older of the two I currently have https://a.co/d/23YGtP3

[jolly onyx]

a 15.6" laptop is not 15.6 wide or long

[carmine merlin]

or actually its mis calculation

[polar fern]

Remember 15.5 is the width, not the screen size

[jolly onyx]

lmao

[polar fern]

Screen size is diagonal from corner to corner

Most 17 inch laptops are 15 inches across

[jolly onyx]

an msi 15.6" laptop is

[polar fern]

Depending on your bezel sizes and exact screen dimensions your mileage may vary

But in general the diagonal is going to be an inch or two larger than the width

[stray apex]

it's about 18 inches diagonal

so a 17 inch laptop will be fine

it's a chonky bag

[polar fern]

There are a lot of 1440p 17 inch laptops out there

[jolly onyx]

my bigger question is whats the point of a 4k laptop

[polar fern]

I don’t know obviously the viewing angle is going to be crap

[misty plover]

Does using the secondary pcie slot for an ssd affect my gpu performance?

[polar fern]

No

[misty plover]

Thank you

[stray apex]

as long as it's a reasonably modern motherboard, no

[misty plover]

Msi tomahawk b450

[polar fern]

Yeah the modern ones have two separate channel lanes for the 16x slots

A lot of people use that function for graphics card and video capture card

[misty plover]

Where can i send an image plz

[polar fern]

You can send one to me in a message and I can post it in here if youd like

[misty plover]

Oh that be great

[polar fern]

Not everyone can afford that

[stray apex]

you can also just send the link to an image

[polar fern]

@misty plover here you go

[misty plover]

Oh il ask here

[jolly onyx]

its worth tho tbh

[misty plover]

Theres many of these tiny pcie slots

[polar fern]

1x slots

[misty plover]

Would those work for a pcie ssd?

Yh i have an m.2 that i need to add

[stray apex]

that would probably go into slot 9

[misty plover]

Occupied

[stray apex]

then no

unless that board has a second m.2 slot, or you actually have some weird ssd that doesn't use m.2

[jolly onyx]

whats the mother board

[misty plover]

https://ezonelb.com/product/ampcom-m-2-nvme-ssd-to-pcie-4-0-adapter-card/
Would this fit in those tiny slots?

[polar fern]

Okay I’m having massive tooth and jaw pain I’m going to go you guys be good

[misty plover]

Get well soon

[jolly onyx]

cya transit

[misty plover]

Tomahawk b450

[misty plover]

I want to use that thing in the link i sent

[stray apex]

will only fit 1 m.2

[misty plover]

Yes and the other one is already slotted

Straight to the mobo

My only concern was if the pcie slots would affect gpu performance
And if those tiny slots work

They seem too small for the one in the link anw

[jolly onyx]

it wont fit in the pcie x1 slots

[misty plover]

Put inthr x16 then?

[jolly onyx]

it would have to be in the 16x slot since you dont have other sized

[misty plover]

I see

Also are these x1s or x4s

Im confoosed

[jolly onyx]

x1s

[misty plover]

I see
I thought ones didnt have the seperator thing

[misty plover]

I see

So that pcie ssd is meant for 4x

Well this answers all my questions

Thank you so much everyone

[jolly onyx]

yea for a x4

[misty plover]

I will return later when i mess things up

[jolly onyx]

also you might be able to get a better one than the one you linked for similar prices

[still sparrow]

sometimes there are 16x size slots but it only has pins for 8x

you dont have to have the matching slot tho . you can put anything that is the same size or smaller into a slot

[hearty dagger]

Hey

[still sparrow]

mmm windows 11

[odd nebula]

4x i think

[dusky egret]

Does anyone know of any good maker forums? Specifically for silicone casting

[night heron]

not wrong

ryzen have working usb challenge impossible

[misty scarab]

I have noticed while using PCs for a bit, there is no more " No " button when it comes to some dialog boxes.

Like the " finish setting up your pc" for windows hello bullshit. There is no button to make it go away forever, there is no decline button. The only buttons you have are "Remind me Later" or " Continue", you are always pressing yes, one is just delayed.

Why is this? Why cant we just have the option to say no, fuckoff or whatever? Im honestly sick of computers not doing what you want them to do, it all started with the " are you sure? ", yes im sure, I wouldn't have pressed the button if I wasnt.
And then the " user must be protected " mindset, " YOU CANT DELETE THAT FILE, WE CONSIDER IT IMPORTANT" . well I dont consider it important, and its my computer so why cant I delete it?

[manic torrent]

needs more bios updated

[stray apex]

Users are dumb

Give them the option to delay updates for 5 years and they'll do it

If you want windows to not treat you like a child, you pretty much have to get pro versions now

[manic torrent]

Thanks for that insight, 2017 Hyundai Sonata. Your feedback has been lodged where it will be reviewed in 3-5 business days. If it is deemed worthy you will get a response, however if it is ignorant garbage from a car, there will be no response, this will be our last communication.

[stray apex]

...also why would you not set up windows hello

Windows hello is actually one of the best things windows has gotten

[misty scarab]

I dont have a fingerprint scanner, or a camera, or a TPM enabled

[sacred dagger]

#build-a-pc

[past egret]

more like pc software

[sacred dagger]

No

[past egret]

?

[sacred dagger]

I need help there

[past egret]

oh.

[sacred dagger]

That's why I mentioned the channel

[misty scarab]

Even on pro it treats you like a child

" NO YOU CANT UNINSTALL (edge), ITS ESSENTIAL"

" THIS COULD BREAK YOUR PC!!!"

[manic torrent]

Yes. because people are A+ idiots.

[stray apex]

Wow
I wonder why windows would want to make sure that you always have a browser installed

[fossil frost]

because the renderer in edge is used in all sorts of places in windows that you wouldnt think it was used, but the webview is a very critical part of windows

[misty scarab]

i had to use a trusted installer elevated powershell, with the -force and -recursicve tags just to get rid of edge

[manic torrent]

tell me you have never worked in IT without telling me

[misty scarab]

I use firefox, so i can get rid of edge

[manic torrent]

how do you know?

[misty scarab]

because I dont use edge

[gritty topaz]

The only good thing about edge is it lets you install other browsers

[stray apex]

Windows uses edge

[fossil frost]

you use windows... so you use edge without knowing you use edge

[manic torrent]

yeah, you don't. (know)

[misty scarab]

well aparently it doesnt need too, because i compltely got rid of edge files and my pc still works

[twin raptor]

I Uninstalled ms edge webview 2 runtime like 20 times and it just reinstalled lol

[manic torrent]

I deleted system32 and my computer works fine

[fossil frost]

you got rid of the userland files for edge, not the OS level stuff... edge is still there, just not the exe that runs the shell that forms the browser... edge as a platform is still installed

[twin raptor]

Noticed no problems while it was go e tho so..

[misty scarab]

I just dont understand them reducing what users can do with their own stuff

[manic torrent]

exactly. You don't understand.

[misty scarab]

either physically with anti repair, or not using standards like USB type C

or with software by locking it down so much just because some people are dumb

[stray apex]

It's almost like if you're designing consumer level software

You have to make sure that everyone can use it without breaking it

[twin raptor]

I reserve the right to wreck my own install

[misty scarab]

you also have to consider the user who can use it without breaking it

and doesnt need to be treated like a baby

[fossil frost]

they are less common than everyone else..

[manic torrent]

You really don't.

[fossil frost]

again, if you dont like it, you dont have to use it

[gritty topaz]

Which is 5-10% of users tops

[fossil frost]

just use something else

[manic torrent]

Far less.

[gritty topaz]

1-5% of users tops

[fossil frost]

nobody makes you use windows, nobody makes you use edge... and if people choose to do so.. that is up to them and not your choice to make for them

[misty scarab]

for example, Linux, I remember when Linux was pretty well for advanced users, but now it seems a lot of distros are moving twords a "protect the idiot " stance

some are still for advanced use, those exist, but others are just becoming too dumbed down

[stray apex]

Yeah, because Linux developers are mostly not stupid and want their software to be usable

[manic torrent]

I am a sysadmin, coder, solution architect etc. I have forgotten more than most people know about computers. I simply don't care. Windows is a tool. Why are you getting so excited and spending so much time on a single machine? They come and go.

[misty scarab]

It always has been usable

[stray apex]

Lolno

[fossil frost]

exactly my own situation 🙂 i just dont care anymore and use whatever tool is best (easiest) for the particular job

[manic torrent]

soooo your problem here is that software has chosen a different target audience?

[stray apex]

Why don't you just use Linux, anyways?

[misty scarab]

compadability mainly

[stray apex]

You could run a vm

[misty scarab]

but thats rapidly changing landscape

[misty scarab]

single gpu passthrough is ass to do

[stray apex]

So?

[misty scarab]

also some rootkits like EAC dislike running in a vm

[stray apex]

Be an advanced user
Set up your things the way you want them

[manic torrent]

oooh aren't we edgy, we know some fancy words

[fossil frost]

fancy words they dont understand 🙂

[stray apex]

Linux isn't popular because it's just not user friendly enough

[manic torrent]

that's a useless reduction.

[stray apex]

The most popular version of Linux is Google's locked down browser os

[misty scarab]

ive just taken the fact that you cant have your cake and eat it too

[manic torrent]

"why isn't it easy to use, but ALSO offers you unrestricted ability to trivially brick it!"

[misty scarab]

linux is pretty easy to use, and some distros also offer you unrestricted ability to trvially brick it

[night heron]

it’s pretty amazing how functional and stable linux is considering what it is

[misty scarab]

but, not everything runs on linux

[night heron]

although i will not be using it for a desktop os anytime soon

[manic torrent]

You can brick linux trivially in any distro.

[night heron]

just servers for me

[stray apex]

Linux is getting better, but it's still impractical for tons of people

[misty scarab]

Also, we need to blame the user more, not the OS

If it says in plain text, that you are about to uninstall an essential package, and explains which packages you are uninstalling, and makes you type a failsafe phrase, but the user STILL does it, then its not the fault of the OS

[misty scarab]

well they made it harder in apt

[manic torrent]

I used linux as a desktop OS in like.. uhhh.... 2008? ish?

[night heron]

blame the user mentality is wrong imo

[gritty topaz]

Yeah I watched Linus do it

[misty scarab]

now you got to add a file to a certain directory to let you remove essential packages

[manic torrent]

oh no, lower level than that.

[night heron]

blame the user for not knowing how to use something that they’ve never touched before

[manic torrent]

I have been using linux personally and professionally since 1997

[misty scarab]

you watched linus fail to read a plaintext warning saying he was about to uninstall ESSENTIAL packages, and fail to see where it specifcally told him which packages were going

[stray apex]

If it trains you to ignore most of the text and blindly enter commands you find online
Why be surprised when the user does just that?

[manic torrent]

which is super easy to do, and is exactly what users do every day.

[stray apex]

The vast, vast majority of shit the cli spits out at you is worthless

[misty scarab]

it doesnt train you to do that, you never do that

[fossil frost]

you watched an OS allow ESSENTIAL packages to be removed

[misty scarab]

you watched what it called essential

[fossil frost]

if the OS knows they are essential, why allow them to be removed

[misty scarab]

in reality, he didnt brick it, he uninstalled the desktop enviornment

[stray apex]

Oh, so you read every single line on the terminal?

[misty scarab]

you can use a pc without a desktop enviornment

[stray apex]

How tf do you think people learn linux

[misty scarab]

if I am using commands I dont know the most about, I do read what it tells me

[stray apex]

Do you think people spend hours reading documentation to learn how to install anything

[manic torrent]

They buy the 6CD set with a bunch of distros on it and install them on their PC

[misty scarab]

if it tells me " hey dumbass youre about to remove the essential packae named xorg server" , of course i would say no

[stray apex]

No
They Google "Linux install steam" and then copy the commands

[manic torrent]

because you are perfect

[stray apex]

And nobody sane reads every line the terminal outputs

[manic torrent]

I generally read it, but I also look at shape and I know what to expec.

most people simply cannot understand it

[misty scarab]

Also again, Linus didnt brick his install, it was still fully usable, all he did was thanos snap the desktop enviornment

you can install a new one from the command line

[stray apex]

Hurr durr ackshuakly a command line interface is totally usable

[manic torrent]

that is garbage. It was not fully usable.

[misty scarab]

yes it is

[stray apex]

For most users it's easier to just reinstall the thing

[manic torrent]

I know exactly what you mean, but you're wrong.

[misty scarab]

you can make and edit files from a cli, you can manage folders and drives and filesystems, and much more

you can watch anime from a command line ffs

[stray apex]

So you use vim, right?

[misty scarab]

Do I use it? No. I prefer LibreOffice, but that doesnt mean I cant use it

I don't use linux every day, but I can use it if I need too or want too

[stray apex]

Why? Vim is not only usable, it's much faster than gui based editors

[fossil frost]

hes a troll or knows hes wrong and just refuses to back down, or an idiot.. no matter which, you are wasting your time 🙂

[manic torrent]

this is ALSO a bad take 😛

[misty scarab]

None of those, I am completely right. Removing a desktop enviornment from a linux distro does not brick it. It is still usable

[manic torrent]

You are TECHNICALLY correct, the best kind. But in actuality it's effectively bricked for most users.

[stray apex]

Linux is okay if you're a super basic user, or you're advanced enough to actually learn it
It's pretty bad for anyone in between

[misty scarab]

EAC is the most linux friendly so far

[white fractal]

I guess that depends on if you have any knowledge of the CLI. It might be effectively “unusable” by the user after un-installing the GUI desktop

[misty scarab]

I mean, in the worst case after doing that, they can type " linux how to install gui " into google on their phone

[manic torrent]

looooool

dude you clearly have never had to design a user interface.

[stray apex]

Most people wouldn't even know that installing the GUI is a thing

[white fractal]

They might have trouble with no command line initially ;)

[stray apex]

Non-nerds assume that a GUI is kind of just there by default

[fossil frost]

like i said, you are wasting your time

[manic torrent]

true enough.

[misty scarab]

In the case of Linus, it went right to a TTY from what i remember

[white fractal]

Did he have to log in?

[misty scarab]

If I remember from the video correctly when his screen turned back on he was on the command line

since he uninstalled his desktop enviornment

if you also uninstall init then youre going to have a hell of a time getting things back running, or if your hard drive is full and somehow causes xorg to bug, no clue how that happened but I had that happen before (the full disk)

[slim yacht]

honestly if people just moved to any type of distro they are gonna have a hard time learning into gui and command system.
with no initial introductions at all, you wont know what to do/what to search tbh. speaking from experience

this is talking distro's with windows like experience already

[white fractal]

Very true. Most people wouldn’t know to search for install desktop

[misty scarab]

well heres my issue, Linus isnt most people.

Linus is a tech guy, im sure he damn well knew what he was doing

and im sure Anthony gave him an earful aswell

[manic torrent]

nope. Also he was busy.

[slim yacht]

sir he mainly runs windows

[manic torrent]

Tell me you've never made a mistake.

[slim yacht]

you can also setup servers with microsoft servers which is much simpler than linux

[misty scarab]

I mainly run windows, but if I see " the following essential packages will be removed" . i would sure pay a bit more attention

[slim yacht]

human error ?

[manic torrent]

congratulations. You are officially more clever than linus.

[misty scarab]

even if I am doing it intentionally

I still double check what packages are going

[slim yacht]

theres a thing called human factor, and linus is not the type to recheck until he screwed up. i think you know this already from his videos

altho he does learn from his mistakes

[misty scarab]

I personally like Anthony more

[night heron]

anthony is cool but linus and luke will always be my favorite staff

[slim yacht]

personal preferences then lol. but like hardware bob said he can make mistakes. hes just a human man

give him a break

[night heron]

i like most of the staff personalities though

[misty scarab]

I feel like Anthony should have supervised linus on the linux challenge

would have been easier to watch

[night heron]

the point of the challenge was for him to struggle on his own

[manic torrent]

I feel like I should have stabbed out my eyes with knitting needles instead of coming onto discord tonight

[night heron]

like a random person would

[misty scarab]

yeah I know, but seing him struggling started to annoy me

[night heron]

not to be taught how to use linux by a veteran

[slim yacht]

its called a challenge because linus and luke daily drives a windows lol

[misty scarab]

tbf luke had a easier time

[slim yacht]

because he managed floatplane ? have u not noticed that

[night heron]

luke picked a beginner friendly distro also

[misty scarab]

so did linus

[night heron]

luke

[misty scarab]

popos is meant do be user friendly

but its based on debian and used apt, which had a bug

which was easy to avoid if you pay attention, but what users reads

[night heron]

i use debian on my home server

[fossil frost]

the point of the linux challenge, and how the general public operate in general... goes so far over this guys head, that its going to crash into the moon... i keep telling you, you are wasting your time

[night heron]

the only time i had issue was when i was using mate

[misty scarab]

i personally ignore every flashing warning and do things to my hearts content

[night heron]

extremely buggy

xfce>>>>

[misty scarab]

I like Cinnamon personally

[night heron]

if any program crashed the entire environment would crash with mate

[manic torrent]

slackware is the best.

[slim yacht]

sir if youre gonna comment how one proficiency is in using an operating system just because they made a content......
youre very good at linux distros sure, hes not you unfortunately

[misty scarab]

Im not very good at linux at all

I have my hands damp in the cli, but im not a linux god

[night heron]

almighty 2017 hyundai sonata

we shall do your bidding

[slim yacht]

neither have i said you are. and like i said if you have never dug into/daily driven a linux before. its gonna be a hard time lol

and adding too he was not running on Vm's

[misty scarab]

Even if you never used something before, just being good with computers should give you slight knowledge

I never used MacOS outside of once or twice, but if someone plopped a macbook infront of me, and told me I had to use it, I could prob get around just well

[slim yacht]

not really lol. i was quite good with computers until i touched linux. i couldnt absorb shit from what its trying to tell me

i had to do actual research to make it work

[manic torrent]

it's pretty easy after a couple decades

[misty scarab]

my first time using linux was Ubuntu 15.04

[slim yacht]

im 3 years in. i got the hang of it but still not great either

i primarily use linux for programming and network admins only tho

[misty scarab]

Im stuck with winblows until the steamdeck takes off more

[slim yacht]

ive said this alot to people who recommend linux over windows :

[misty scarab]

also someone told me that Respawn erabled Linux support on their anticheat, but I havent confirmed it yet. For Apex Legends

[slim yacht]

' convenience and support of windows supersede those of linux system'

especially when gaming scene are primarily windows focused this whole time

[night heron]

yeah most people just do not care about avoiding telemetry or microsoft

they just want what has the most support and works

[misty scarab]

I try to avoid telemetry

[night heron]

id rather it not exist but i’m not inconveniencing myself to avoid tailored advertisements

[misty scarab]

doesnt DuckDuckGo now allow MS trackers

[night heron]

dunno, i stopped using ddg ages ago when it was blocking my search results

[misty scarab]

yeah, i also heard it now stops indexing certain results

it classifies them as " misinformation "

[night heron]

wouldn’t surprise me

[slim yacht]

yea especially when your install process are literally one click per page and installation medium are available just by downloading

[manic torrent]

Just watch infowars

[misty scarab]

I feel like if everyone knew exactly what data was collected on them they would be a lot more into avoiding telemetry and stop calling us crazy for wanting to do it

[manic torrent]

nope

[night heron]

most people just simply do not care my man

[slim yacht]

idk i dont really fancy learning sudo apt just to avoid data collection. apple and google has been doing it all this while

[night heron]

they’ll just install an adblocker and pretend it doesn’t exist like i do

[misty scarab]

I got 149gb of data from google takeout, thats just what they TELL ME they collected on me

who knows what else they have in their nevada data center

[manic torrent]

lol dude. google data is super distributed.

[night heron]

the data is collected to tailor advertisements to the individual and streamline services towards what they think people will want

not for an evil chinese overlord to personally view all of your data and laugh

[slim yacht]

and the system works!

[manic torrent]

it's absolutely more than that - but that's the basic gist, yes.

[night heron]

it’s basically an automatic survey

[slim yacht]

altho i just adblock lol

[misty scarab]

theres more to it than just tailored ads

its downright creepy how many times ive mentioned a product in a conversation with my phone nearby, and then when I go on amazon its one of the first things in my recomended, despire me never typing it into my phone

[green fog]

Why does my Mouse run out of charge so fast?

[manic torrent]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[manic torrent]

because the battery is dead.

[misty scarab]

or the fact that, in order to hear the wake word, the alexa device has to always listen to know if you said it, so that also means it hears everything else you say

[green fog]

ive only used it for 7 months

[night heron]

yeah but it’s not saving audio data 24/7 for every alexa user

that would be way too much data

[green fog]

its a razer viper ultimate

[manic torrent]

Dunning-Kruger, hooray

[night heron]

and most of it would be silence and wasted space

[misty scarab]

they wouldnt do it for every user

only flagged users

[night heron]

if you turn the rgb off it’ll last wayyyy longer

[green fog]

bro it didnt last 40 mins

i dont think rgb is the problem here

[misty scarab]

if you talk about something specific they will monitor you more closely, and make your doorbell camera send footage to the police without your consent

[night heron]

rgb does extremely lessen battery life but 40 minutes isn’t normal

[green fog]

mhm

[manic torrent]

that is partly true, but also a conflation of several things.

[green fog]

down from 40 to 3 % in 30 mins

[slim yacht]

if you really want to keep yourself safe then i suggest building your own networking systems lol.
switching to linux alone is not enough as your public ip for each and every device you own are still leased to you

[misty scarab]

Big Tech is getting too big

[manic torrent]

finally, something that isn't factually incorrect or baseless.

[misty scarab]

ive said other things that are correct

but i digress

I try to use a vpn whener I feel I may need it, the vpn doesnt even have my email, and I can pay them in cash

they only know me by a random string of numbers

and its open source so I can see exactly what it does

[slim yacht]

your vpn provider does know who u are. any device connected in a network have their own special addresses that leads to who you are

[misty scarab]

They only know me by my account number

[slim yacht]

theres actually many things you can grab with actual leased ip.
that is if your vpn provider have sources to access public ipv4/6 system which they should

if not remote network wont be possible

altho its really something id worry unless i piss some competent network engineers

[misty scarab]

my provider does not ask for any personal information – no username, no password, no email address. Instead, a random account number is generated, a so-called numbered account. This number is the only identifier a person needs in order to use a account

Anyone at anytime can create as many numbered accounts as they wish on our website. An account can be used by multiple people or by someone other than the person who initially generated it.

A account has two properties: the account number and the time remaining on that account.

[slim yacht]

so basically your vpn providers are a cryptocurrency service provider

[misty scarab]

its mullvad

[slim yacht]

yeah so technically i was right about cryptocurrency part after looking at what they accept as payment module

[misty scarab]

    no logging of traffic
    no logging of DNS requests
    no logging of connections, including when one is made, when it disconnects, for how long, or any kind of timestamp
    no logging of IP addresses
    no logging of user bandwidth
    no logging of account activity except total simultaneous connections (explained below) and the payment information detailed in this post.

per their no logging policy, which is backed up by their software being open source

[misty scarab]

they let you pay in crypto but they dont provide services like a brokerage

[slim yacht]

how they run this vpn system is exactly how secure it is to wire transfer money with crypto

those in the net have no idea who u are apart from your account number

[misty scarab]

I can pay in cash too if i wanted

[slim yacht]

good vpn

[sonic barn]

Btw crypto is gonna be considered a digital commodity in the usa

[slim yacht]

so theyre confident about speculative coin value ay. goodluck to that

[thin echo]

Bumble bee pass that auto bud

[lethal copper]

Is cooler master hyper 212 good?

I heard it was one of most famous coolers or something

[vapid remnant]

it's great as a mid tier cooler

what are you trying to cool btw?

[lethal copper]

12400

I might get a server

[slim yacht]

a hyper 212 is more than enough for this

[lethal copper]

And my budget allows for 10100, but since it’s just 7k rub upgrade might as well get 12400

[slim yacht]

you should be fine

[vapid remnant]

yep perfectly fine for it

[lethal copper]

Also why are .su and .moscow so expensive ugh

Supply and demand I guess

Although there is equal supply everywhere

[slim yacht]

.ru in general is expensive as well

[lethal copper]

No, it’s cheap as heck

I use .ru because it’s super easy

[slim yacht]

💀

[lethal copper]

200 rubles? That’s almost nothing. A “not Big Mac” costs more

.ru is literally just 200 rubles

Well, it’s 600 but it’s constantly on sale 😎

[vapid remnant]

go for it

[lethal copper]

Meanwhile goddamn .moscow costs like a dot com

[lethal copper]

Go for what

[vapid remnant]

the 212?

[lethal copper]

I will if I buy a server

[vapid remnant]

oh lol

well you also wanna check your case has the clearance for it then

the 212 isn't that big but it's no small boy either

[lethal copper]

I think I would get Corsair carbide 275r or whatever it’s called

Because it’s cheap

275r airflow

[vapid remnant]

no problems then

[lethal copper]

Honestly I don’t think I need 10400 for the server

Literally just not sure Minecraft wouldn’t use all 4 of 10100’s cores

[slim yacht]

minecraft will definitely use 4 of that cores if youre thinking of running a minecraft ones

i mean if you wanna save and make it just a server, theres pentium gold

[river willow]

what channel is best to ask about water cooling radiators in

[coarse kayak]

probably a weird suggestion but I think #overclocking would be the people who would know the most about watercooling lol

[river willow]

ok thanks

[junior tide]

After buying a real sim racing wheel to experience real dirt rally 2.0 and get better, i'd like to announce that i still fucking suck

[sonic barn]

Elder scrolls online ran on 2010 hardware for 13 years

Minecraft you can probably host a server off a pentium

[junior tide]

hosting teamspeak servers on pentium gang

[lethal copper]

But not sure it will run on pentium AND leave resources to stuff like Gitea, wordpress and jellyfin

[lethal copper]

Yeah that's what I'm worried about, Minecraft taking all the cores for itself

[fossil dirge]

You guys still play Minecraft

I have Minecraft but I don't play it that much

[lilac sage]

I dont touch vanilla anymore

[lethal copper]

Sort of

ComputerCraft 😎

[fossil dirge]

LOL 😆

[silent flame]

Yo guys

I applied thermal paste a week ago and my pc is running hotter than it was

[hollow zealot]

Are you using it for the same thing

[silent flame]

Wdym

[hollow zealot]

Like is it running hot idle

[silent flame]

No

[hollow zealot]

Or in a game

[silent flame]

Running hot gaming

CPU is 170 f

Gpu 60-70 c

Idk why

[hollow zealot]

Check your cooler mounting

[silent flame]

I applied Corsair Tmx 50

[silent flame]

I did it’s god

Maybe it’s my cooler?

It’s air cooling from cooler master

[hollow zealot]

Send a picture in #screenshots with the thermal paste on the cooler visible

[silent flame]

I can’t