public-chat

[red breach]

for all of my legally acquired bluray backups of course

[austere hemlock]

Server

[red breach]

not trying to brag or anything lol, just sharing that I don't really find much value in most streaming services

[dreamy otter]

I'm not smart enough to setup Plex + "all my legally obtained shows" lol

[austere hemlock]

i also pay for most streaming services

[red breach]

it really is pretty easy. plex automatically scans whatever folders you point it at

and installing it is just an exe on windows if you're lazy lol

[dreamy otter]

Yeah I get that part

[tribal night]

mmmmmm big heccin noctua cooler

[austere hemlock]

epyc server

[dreamy otter]

I just don't get how you search for movies/tv shows to download on plex

[austere hemlock]

128gb ram
supermicro motherboard
30TB IronWolf Pro

4x 1tb nvme drives for cache

in the hyperX16 card

2x 10gbe networking

[austere hemlock]

there are 100000 different ways

i used to have something to scan for new releases and automaticly download them

shhhh 🤫

i dont anymore, now i use the server as offsite backup of all the machines in the house, so a bit op

might sell soon and buy synology 5bay something

[red breach]

love the RSS feed haha

I'm.... (not) poor so my rig is a little piecemeal

it's a r5 5600/3080 now which is optimal

but my storage is....

well I boot off a samsung 840 evo, 750GB. I have a 500GB sandisk shit-tier "game SSD"

[vapid smelt]

the good 12gb 3080 or the 10gb?

[red breach]

then an armada of garbage HDDs - 1x2tb, 2x3tb, and 1x4tb

[red breach]

the OG 10GB, it's a 3080 FTW3 that I got in february of 21, owes me nothing.... literally

paid for itself twice.... not a dirty miner but I mined with my main rig lol

[vapid smelt]

nice

[austere hemlock]

i have a 3080ti and bought it in 2021 spring.. 1900$
mined on it untill a few months back when i started to make a profit

FTW cards are nice

i have a msi card

[red breach]

they're not really, my fans are rattly af now

[vapid smelt]

im stilling using my 5700xt nitro i got near launch

[red breach]

probably becuase they went CO for 12 months but for a 900+ MSRP card I expect CO-rated fans

[vapid smelt]

noctua mod it

[red breach]

it's got the shit lip, the 120's don't fit right and I'm not enthused with the performance I've seen from the 90mm mods

I've been waiting for a hybrid kit to come about

[austere hemlock]

2 disk drives?

O_O

[red breach]

so I've been waiting for the EVGA hybrid kit to come on sale again, but then I'd need a new case because there's no room for a 240 in here... those fan mounts on top are decorative (peak thermaltake) because even slim 120's interfere with the board lmfaoooooo

[red breach]

of course! one with lightscribe

they're... not connected because I needed my 6 sata ports for SSDs and HDD's. But they're connected to power, I can eject the trays and everything lmao

[pliant karma]

nice my servers are well..lets just say I am still working out some kinks. The used Dell Equallogic is being a pain in the ass atm

don't know the IP of it soo that is fun so until then I can't do much with it but my 2 other server already have vmware installed

[tribal night]

arp -a (I know I'm most likely stating the obvious but I love me some arp)

[austere hemlock]

My fist gaming pc

Still have it and works

[tribal night]

dude that case is sick

[inland night]

What is that case

[red breach]

love the gauges on the front

[tribal night]

how much boost does your PC make bro?

[red breach]

part of me says build the next rig in that case

but to break up a working vintage rig is sad

[tribal night]

imagine playing counterstrike and you just hear WLKJHSDLGJFS from your computer's wastegates

[red breach]

especially first PC. My first laptop I pulled out of storage to a bad HDD 😦

[austere hemlock]

Specs:
GPU Asus extreme n6600 256mb
RAM 2x1GB Twinmos
Motherboard Asus a8n-sli deluxe
CPU AMD Athlon 64 3200+
PSU 300w Chieftech

[red breach]

but I put an SSD in it lol

had to find an IDE SSD but sure enough

[tribal night]

two gigs of ram? what are you, rich or something?

[inland night]

Yes but what about the case

[austere hemlock]

i dont remember, 2 sec

[red breach]

yeah 2GB back in the XP days that was pimpin

[pliant karma]

Servers next to it I see?

[red breach]

my XP rig had 768mb RAM and I thought I was hot

[zinc brook]

bro i have 64mb sdr ram kits laying around

not even ddr1

[austere hemlock]

no, that are some production machies used for broadcast

[slate agate]

I have edo and fpm ram somewhere still

32mb or 64mb of edo in a pentium 1 system

[austere hemlock]

Work from Home livestream setup in 2020

[pliant karma]

Ah nice ahh my server atm. I need a rack soon but this will do for now. Lol being a bit creative

[slate agate]

C64 is 40 years old this month

[vapid smelt]

nice rack

[pliant karma]

[red breach]

when computers were computers lol

blinkin cursor on a blue screen

[austere hemlock]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811144151

same but different color

[red breach]

out of stock? 😦

[slate agate]

I mean, they were like that up until windows took over, dos is just a blinking cursor

[austere hemlock]

APEVIA X-CRUISER

[red breach]

don't forget the windows 11 oem license

lol

[pliant karma]

[red breach]

omg

[red breach]

it's got a ninja star fan grille and a door

christ

[austere hemlock]

OP case

[red breach]

ducted fan intake on the acrylic?? HOT

[austere hemlock]

sexy thing

i want to move my current build over to that case

it is now in a Meshify Compact

[red breach]

gotta love that my mid-00s thermaltake case has better airflow than like 5 years of glass front RGB crap lol

now "mesh" is a premium feature

o.o

[austere hemlock]

they had windows themes

[red breach]

wow

that's 2004 as fuuuuuuuck

[molten drift]

Here is a life protip for all aspiring. College students. https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyle/keurig-capabilities-besides-coffee

[dry trellis]

People are really reviewbombing a product they don't own

because of costs out of LTT's control

and then getting upset when the review gets deleted

[austere hemlock]

How it was opening it after 10+ years

[red breach]

10 years on a chieftec

wow

[austere hemlock]

10 years not in use*

[red breach]

fair enough

[austere hemlock]

4 years after i got this pc as a gift i bought a laptop to replace it

[red breach]

tbh it's very ATX inside, looks like you could shoehorn a decent GPU in there too if you moved the HDD

[vapid smelt]

wtf Lemonade

[molten drift]

Mhmm

[red breach]

the real protip is to skip the $100 keurig and get a hamilton beach single serve for $20 that has a easy-clean single serve basket

[austere hemlock]

To enabled sli you had to turn this card around 😅

[red breach]

and instead of buying K-cups for $40/lb you buy coffee for $7/lb in a bag

[lucid echo]

I miss daughterboards

[austere hemlock]

PC3 CL3 1GB DDR-DIMM 😄

[red breach]

eh, GPUs are basically the most AIC there's ever been

[lucid echo]

It was sarcastic

[molten drift]

Don't forget their was a Keurig cold as well

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/keurig-kold-review/

[full fossil]

Rambus DRAM peak ram

[uncut kayak]

but you can drink the keurig pods raw

[keen jungle]

The oldest RAM I have is DDR-400

what even is that

[tribal night]

I miss SLI

[graceful burrow]

No you dont

[tribal night]

computers with like 4 GPUs were hilariously impractical, but so cool to look at

[lucid echo]

Now the cool kids use 4 GPUs for a bunch of VMs

[tribal night]

as a cool kid myself, I use it to do computational fluid dynamics

(we have a computer with some older Tesla cards that we run CFD on at work)

[slate agate]

ram running at 200mhz

[keen jungle]

o-o

[shy geyser]

anyone own the ltt backpack

[graceful burrow]

It went up for sale for the first time yesterday they havent been sent out yet

[shy geyser]

o alright, i only just saw some post on reddit saying how expensive it is and found out about it lol

any videos on it? ive been looking for a decent backpack recently

[graceful burrow]

Ltt has a video about it

[tardy schooner]

if you buy it now you will get it after october 10th

but yea watch the video from LTT

[shy geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZiSRiMe47Q ah this

[lucid echo]

About 50 people bought it a few weeks ago at a special event, there are a handful of reviews on the product page for it

[shy geyser]

ehh it looks alright so far but its helllla expensive, might just buy a swiss gear carbon for 60 quid instead.

[tight bridge]

should i get a laptop cooling pad or just a stand to raise it?

[shy geyser]

i heard cooling pads make hardly any diff and mostly just introduce more noise

[regal musk]

I imagine just raising it will probably help more.

[tight bridge]

i also tried raising my laptop while playing and it helped my temps

[lucid echo]

It's not for everyone

[tight bridge]

so i’ll just get a stand

[regal musk]

I'm still waiting for the official LTT Linus face bed sheets.

[pale swift]

Helllo

[tight bridge]

anyone know any good laptop stands then?

[molten drift]

I use this laptop stand
WALI Laptop Tray Desk Mount for 1 Laptop Notebook up to 17 inch, Fully Adjustable, 22 lbs Capacity with Vented Cooling Platform Stand (M00LP) https://a.co/d/fJJgnKo

[static stag]

The point is it's probably a buy it for life item, even if you're a heavy user. It has a double bottom so if you wear through one there's a second. among other nice features.

[shy geyser]

I mean sure but I've seen backpacks half the price recommended on r/bifl

Looks interesting, I will wait till more people recieved it but it hasn't overly enticed me.

[lucid echo]

I'm willing to guess they're either mass produced or missing some nice-to-have features

[shy geyser]

I mean this backpack is mass produced looking at how many they are shipping out...

[misty ice]

Body pillows

[lucid echo]

A few thousand LTT backpacks is nowhere near what North Face/Columbia/Camelback are pumping out on a monthly basis. A completely different ballgame

[viral sable]

why did a bunch of low star reviews get removed from the website lmao

[misty ice]

They were spam 'reviews' not actually talking about the product they were 'reviewing.' Instead they were all complaining about the EU's import tariffs and cost of shipping. Makes sense to remove them.

[vapid smelt]

imagine giving a product bad reviews because of the laws countries set

[lucid echo]

• they can't enforce verified purchases on reviews because that would exclude the early buyers who've had the backpack for a month now, who all bought it through a separate in-person POS system

[latent plank]

one day

[lucid echo]

Apparently “mass production” means “we made more than two”

[latent plank]

lol

[lucid echo]

How’s the office vibe been post- backpack launch?

I guess you’re not seeing much of creator warehouse

[latent plank]

same as usual on the LTT side. Some excitement, but we are really busy making videos

[lucid echo]

Good to hear

[latent plank]

If it all goes well Labs is going to have a better start then previously planned.

[lucid echo]

Hell yeah

Wild how fast they sold

[latent plank]

indeed

[regal musk]

Linus dakis would probably be some of the best selling LTT merch ever if they were made available. I mean that in sincerity.

[peak sable]

Linus dakimakura when lol

Ah man I was a rolled up

Scrolled*

[regal musk]

I wouldn't personally buy one, but I legit almost bought a Krystal Fox daki on impulse at the last con I went to, and I know there are plenty of people more dedicated to the show than I am to that character.

[manic torrent]

Part of it is the objective features and product - part of it is supporting LTT and the vision for labs etc.

[tribal night]

somewhat off topic, what ever happened to Madison?

[polar fern]

I really wish I had the funds for a backpack. Looks very cool. while I was a NYC tour guide would have loved having one of these - out for 12-14 hours a day.

[ornate heart]

i just got my first mechanical keyboard

[austere hemlock]

To many linus memes

[ornate heart]

feels good B)

[tribal night]

i feel like linus face sheets would be exactly the kind of thing she'd push for

[ornate heart]

Keychron K8 Pro with gateron reds, 100$ + 30$ shipping

wireless and wired

the only weird part is the rgb... the keycaps are not even seethrough

pvc though

[polar fern]

I do plan on purchasing the screwdriver though. I’m thoroughly fed up with bad screwdrivers

Having these be able to easily lock together is an amazingly simple security feature.

[fossil kraken]

can i case swap a pre built omen gaming pc

[echo ridge]

Did backpacks launch

[vapid smelt]

yesterday

[polar fern]

Obviously depends on the case

[echo ridge]

Ok still too broke

[polar fern]

Soon companies will look for an LTT recommendation before launching final product

[iron haven]

I hope that's one of the outcomes from Labs.

[austere hemlock]

Yes, omen machines uses normal ATX boards

[manic torrent]

Madison left LTT.

[polar fern]

She kept streaming on twitch during WAN. Awkward.

A-team theme plays on loop

Or airwolf?

[tacit cypress]

I just ordered the backpack, I leave for school in two weeks so the estimated time of three to nine days is great!

[polar fern]

https://youtu.be/2z_ESg4U-4g

[austere hemlock]

You know shipping is not untill october?

[polar fern]

Oh no

[austere hemlock]

WAVE 2 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY OCTOBER 10

[polar fern]

Wave 2?

[austere hemlock]

Currently on wave 2

[polar fern]

Wow it was like 4500 left last I checked a few minutes ago 😱

[austere hemlock]

Wave 1 sold out same day

Currently on wave 2

@tacit cypress

[polar fern]

Leave for school?

😬

[tacit cypress]

When I checked out it said 3 - 9 Day Delivery.

[austere hemlock]

From the shipping date

Yes

[polar fern]

Not from date of order

I’d expect a week delay on top of that if you’re ordering outside of BC.

Logistics companies are still dealing with labor shortages etc

Also that’s a good chunk of income if they do sell through all the initial batches

[echo ridge]

When

[latent plank]

long time ago

[austere hemlock]

Over a year ago atleast

I think

[echo ridge]

Oh so when I decided to not watch every video

[tacit cypress]

I guess I will need to have my parents forward me the package.

[polar fern]

Yes.

Remember to cover up any labels on the box before that is done.

[light nexus]

I know but Windows can just deactivate my account then

[unkempt orbit]

Is there a way to just show floatplane exclusives on floatplane?

[vapid smelt]

type in exclusives in the search bar

[unkempt orbit]

Wow, thats a lot of content

thanks

[unkempt orbit]

What does the discord integration look like?

[vapid smelt]

settings then linked account section on fp

[unkempt orbit]

Right, but what does it look like in discord

[obtuse epoch]

I saw LTT latest video and BOY oh BOY he is one heck of a data hoarder

[unkempt orbit]

What are the benefits?

[vapid smelt]

you get a FP role Fp voice chat and text chat (lmg staff are most active in fp chat) and img perms in public chat

[unkempt orbit]

Kool Thanks

[vapid smelt]

plus a cool blue name thats better then the gross green

[unkempt orbit]

Speak for yourself haha

[manic torrent]

yep. Get to flex on plebs

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-for-damn-sure-charles-james-walker-cj-walker-blair-underwood-self-made-inspired-by-the-life-of-madam-cj-walker-gif-16892356

[austere hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[carmine merlin]

Jokes on you, Green is my fav color

[random jolt]

the backpack sc vid is trending

did not expect that lol

[warped narwhal]

#23 trending wooooo

is actually such a bruh

[quartz forge]

hi

[manic torrent]

No. Green is not a creative colour.

[amber dove]

what mouse should I get Logitech G Pro X Superlight or razer Orochi v2?

[vapid smelt]

Logitech

[manic torrent]

I have the razer orochi v1 and it's a solid meh

[neon beacon]

I swear I grabbed a backpack when there were 9500 left in wave 1, and 7 hours later it was down to 3500 left in wave 2

[terse folio]

https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/04/meta-is-expanding-nft-support-on-instagram-to-100-countries/

I'll have to uninstall IG

[livid dirge]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_135&item_id=137676
is this worth it?

[vapid smelt]

its a copy paste asetek aio

[red grail]

Everybody quotes the tips

[livid dirge]

should i get it instead of the esports duo?

gonna be using i5 12600k

[rocky ginkgo]

does anyone know when the NX is coming out

[vapid smelt]

nx?

[signal saffron]

yo

[urban thistle]

It’s my birthday I was trying to get to 200 subs on YouTube but I didn’t 💀

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/kate-bishop-kate-hawkeye-kate-hailee-steinfeld-hailee-gif-25076793

[wind pulsar]

🤷‍♀️

[ripe mirage]

guys are ryzen cpus with g something something name have apu's in it

[vapid smelt]

yes

[ripe mirage]

why does g ones perform bit worse than non g ones

and cost more

[polar fern]

The APU’s have the G suffix denoting onboard graphics

[finite cloud]

They cost more probably because of the onboard graphics

[polar fern]

Yes

[finite cloud]

Not too hard to figure out. More features is more money

[pliant karma]

buy me a gpro superlight hehe jk

holding out till it has usb-c

[polar fern]

Mhm

[pliant karma]

👀

[finite cloud]

Should have done that a long time ago. Ive had my account deleted for a while

[polar fern]

That’s the old one.

[finite cloud]

I’ll have to remember to get a G whenever I can upgrade to AMD

[polar fern]

Current one in the Lenovo

It’s still drying from being wiped down with disinfectant

[vapid smelt]

did you drop it in the toilet ?

[polar fern]

Did not want to wait to install it after delivery

This was before the vaccines were available

Tomorrow I plan to take my 2008 MacBook apart and clean out the insides

It has been running almost non-stop doing folding at home since the summer of 2020

I will take many pictures

I can hear the dust buildup on the internal fan and it’s been running long enough that the dust is probably unbalancing the bearing

Time to clean the fan off and the air paths

Okay I Gotta go put gas in my girlfriend’s car. Y’all take care of yourself and be good

[glacial basin]

why is my phone showing that the battery is charging when it isn't connected

lmao

[quiet knoll]

Space rays

[pliant karma]

you found the secret to infinite battery life

[polar fern]

The BMS may be dying

Be back later though

[quiet knoll]

He'll be dead within 24 hours. Apple is coming for you

[glacial basin]

oneplus moment

[full fossil]

is there anyone here thats really good at math

[high tusk]

i am

[full fossil]

dms

[high tusk]

not

[full fossil]

oh

[high tusk]

😔

im gonna stop before i get warned by some random mod

[limpid fern]

Have yo got a flagship phone?

Random radiation charging your phone wirelessly

[pulsar ginkgo]

Not sure if this is allowed, I'd it's against the rules in some way, please delete or notify me to delete it.

Seeing as the backpack ended up priced at 375$ USD imported to Norway, I can't afford one due to personal economic reasons. Is it okay to ask for advice for a lower priced backpack that might not be as high quality as the mighty ltt backpack, but will get the job done? My current one is falling apart, and i weren't planning on buying a new one until the ltt backpack, but welp, shipping and taxes can go to hell.

[glacial basin]

oneplus 5, so kinda

[spiral kraken]

i dont think that's how electromagnetism works

[pulsar ginkgo]

Is OnePlus still considered flagship after the memory issues?

Don't get me wrong, I have a OnePlus myself, but damn that company let themselves go.

Might be that it's simply getting to old at this point and software is just full of glitches due to the age of the OS

[glacial basin]

ehh don't really know

[polar fern]

It’s not easy being green

👀

[woeful minnow]

so ~16k sold already? not too bad

[graceful burrow]

Based

[amber shuttle]

how about a G303 Shroud Edition? perfect for claw grip, USB-C charging, 75g and LIGHTSPEED wireless with the same hero 25k sensor

[spiral zodiac]

so why dont they use a floor jack or a motorcycle jack for moving servers around on the racks....

[amber shuttle]

its a bit heavier, but trust me if I didn't grind aim trainers for 3 months straight with my Superlight I'd much prefer my 87g Logitech G Pro Hero (remake of the G203, but with the hero 25k sensor instead of mercury 8k) for FPS games versus a 63g feather

[pliant karma]

Whhh I prefer superlight. Used my friends before I had to return it to him and honestly fell in love with it

[amber shuttle]

and its mainly because I've grown on the iconic "pro" shape which allows me to fingertip grip when I'm moving the mouse forwards and slide into a claw when pulling downward

[pliant karma]

My viper ultimate is doing fine just ya know razer software

And I have a mx master 3 I use daily

[amber shuttle]

if its just the weight, the Fantech Aria XD7 and Pulsar Xlite Wireless V2 match/beat the Superlight's

former hasn't released yet though

[pliant karma]

But tbh I do want to give Logitech a chance again lol since I already have ghub installed mainly for my 2 webcams

Ghub ain’t that bad for what it is but razer ahh well it’s razer being razer

[amber shuttle]

updated GUI too, for G HUB

[manic torrent]

Mxm3 is the business

[amber shuttle]

is it actually bad from usability perspective?

@pliant karma

[polar fern]

The vertical has flow enabled to use between Mac mini & Lenovo. 👍

[amber shuttle]

G502 Proteus Spectrum

[oak peak]

I like that design on the mouse

on the side

[polar fern]

G402

The grip area? Yeah. It’s very comfy

The pattern on the grip area is definitely designed to almost passively hold on to your hand

I don’t think it would work if it were smooth

[stuck stratus]

yeah lg can make a mean mouse

[polar fern]

AR image of the MX vertical’s little cousin

[stray apex]

if only LG could figure out how usb-c works

[polar fern]

Lucky goldstar

[stray apex]

nah, logitech

the koreans figured out usb-c years ago

[polar fern]

LG is not Logitech

[stray apex]

it's close enough

[polar fern]

LG is a whole actual company

Also, what do you mean “figure out usb c”?

[stray apex]

logitech

puts micro b
on their TOTL gaming mice

it's the most braindead thing I've ever seen

[polar fern]

Like, my MX vertical has USB c charge port

[stray apex]

maybe their productivity stuff is less stupid?

[polar fern]

Dunno.

[stray apex]

their top-of-the-line $160 ultralight wireless gaming mouse still uses micro b

which is just
why

[polar fern]

Mini or micro?

[desert dagger]

the missus budget "Deltaco" wireless keyboard and mouse uses USB-C ...

think i shelled out like 20 USD for the kb+m

[stray apex]

micro

the worst connecter devised in the 21st century

[polar fern]

The only reason I can think of for that is the supplier can’t get a new board

[stray apex]

logitech isn't some tiny company that can't convince their manufacturer to spring for usb-c

nor are they apple who supply chains have to form around

[polar fern]

The area where the port is also may mean re-tooling the housing & basically new parts

[stray apex]

if they're releasing a new mouse, they can certainly afford to design it for a different port

this isn't something that's been out for years

[crystal mirage]

not true at all

[polar fern]

Many peripherals manufacturers have changed the device enclosure when they change to USB a or C from micro

[crystal mirage]

I still use micro usb

[stray apex]

yeah, and this mouse came out in 2020

it's not some ancient logitech gaming mouse from back in the day

it's one of the most modern mice on the market

[polar fern]

Okay I understand

[amber shuttle]

still used to charge power banks

[stray apex]

nope

[polar fern]

That’s mini

[amber shuttle]

the cheaper ones*

[stray apex]

only the really cheap power banks that reuse designs from ten years ago

[amber shuttle]

nope. Works to charge my Superlight

[stray apex]

even relatively inexpensive banks off amazon charge with type c now

[stray apex]

no, it's micro

[amber shuttle]

no no, he's got a point

[polar fern]

All of the power banks I have seen unless they’re total garbage borderline dangerous questionable have used the mini USB port.

[stray apex]

have you not seen a power bank in the past five years

[polar fern]

I have 3

[stray apex]

nobody makes high-end power banks that charge with anything other than usb-c now

[polar fern]

All mini

[stray apex]

doubt it

[polar fern]

So you’re telling me I don’t have three power banks that I purchased? K

[stray apex]

$20 anker
micro-b and type-c input

[polar fern]

Cool looks like it’s on Amazon or something

[manic torrent]

Type c is the only way to be

Micro b is a garbage connectoe

[amber shuttle]

Type C is the only way to B :troll:

[stray apex]

basically nobody uses micro b anymore

[manic torrent]

It always sucked, and it sucks more now that type c is standard.

[polar fern]

I am talking about actual physically in a store on a shelf or what not and I said MINI not MICRO

[stray apex]

which is why it's so egregious for logitech to release a $160 mouse in 2020 that uses micro b

[manic torrent]

Mini b also sucks

[amber shuttle]

G-wolves/OG Logitech mouse enthusiasts - ....

[polar fern]

Which mouse is this?

[stray apex]

why tf is the mouse industry so slow

[amber shuttle]

most are type c, chill

[manic torrent]

This is why I have a Corsair mouse.

[amber shuttle]

I was listing minorities

[warm wharf]

I never see anything modern that uses micro or mini, the distinction isn't super important

[manic torrent]

Exactly

[polar fern]

It’s a totally different connector

[manic torrent]

If it's not type c, it's junk and I don't want it

[polar fern]

JFC

[warm wharf]

It is, but they're both obsolete

[amber shuttle]

if you like software-less you could try Xtrfy, Fantech, HK Gaming

[stray apex]

finalmouse also seems to be stuck on micro b

[manic torrent]

Except I already have the Corsair :)

[amber shuttle]

yea sadge

[stray apex]

with basically any other product, you can usually assume that it's type-c because it's not 1996

but then every time you try to buy a mouse it's like

[amber shuttle]

oh yea, save cash for that rescue project of yours :p

[stray apex]

gee I hope the manufacturer bothered to update in the past ten years

[warm wharf]

Most mice I've seen be A, never seen a mouse be B

Well

nm, I assume you mean the mouse itself

[manic torrent]

Oh, I set cash on fire constantly.

[warm wharf]

not the side that connects to the PC

[stray apex]

the side that connects to the PC is pretty much always type a

[warm wharf]

but they all seem to be Type-A at least for the PC-side connection

[manic torrent]

Yes. That is also suck, but eh. I have many c to c cables. We also need more c to c hubs

[warm wharf]

just makes more sense to be A than C there

since I don't think mice need the bandwidth of C

[amber shuttle]

wireless mice' charging ports*

[manic torrent]

No, it makes no sense at all

[polar fern]

Speaking of power banks - I need to find my 10,000 mah dual voltage one.

[amber shuttle]

like the mouse end of the charging cord

[warm wharf]

of course it does, most PC's have more A ports than C ports

[manic torrent]

It's only because shitty mobos just have all type a ports

[polar fern]

I’d disagree with that.

[stray apex]

yeah, only the higher end z690 boards seem to have a vaguely decent amount of type-c ports

[polar fern]

Really depends on the market segment

[manic torrent]

Not really

[stray apex]

hopefully AMD sticks more i/o on their x670 or whatever

[warm wharf]

I mean, desktops in general are mostly moot

[amber shuttle]

I mean, bob mice don't need hyper-fast ports. It'd save the lives of cheapskates too if more mice didn't have type-c connectors so not every manufacturer can apply 8000hz polling to raise prices

[warm wharf]

most PC's are laptops

[polar fern]

🤷‍♂️

[amber shuttle]

because thunderbolt/USB-C

[manic torrent]

You can have a USB 2.0 type c port.

Type c isn't a protocol as such

[amber shuttle]

true. But ig USB-A is just so popular its easier to implement?

[manic torrent]

Yes, that's it

[amber shuttle]

or cheaper?

[manic torrent]

No, not cheaper.

[polar fern]

I can’t recall ever seeing a 2.0 c port.

[gilded quest]

It's easy to count the conductors in USB A

[warm wharf]

USB-A is the smarter choice because of it appealing to a wider audience

[amber shuttle]

most people use Type-C for the added transfer speed

and I know big companies like to go with the flow

[stray apex]

on computers, yeah

[gilded quest]

So many things are 2.0 type C

[manic torrent]

I use type c because I can connect anything to anything

[warm wharf]

Most modern PC's will have type-C ports, but they'll still have more Type A's usually

[gilded quest]

And most C to C cables

[polar fern]

Such as?

[warm wharf]

might as well use the Type A ports for things that don't need a ton of bandwidth

[amber shuttle]

like how gaming headsets are a thing, audiophiles hate them because they're just rgb bling bling with blown out drivers. But because of the company reputation in other departments the fanbase believes in good quality

[gilded quest]

Peripherals, phones, cheap laptops

[amber shuttle]

and some people don't believe these 'philes, because headsets are all they can "afford" since they don't know better in a 'phile's eyes

[manic torrent]

Keyboards

[polar fern]

For power, doesn’t matter what standard you’re using, because it’s not data.

[manic torrent]

Wrong

[gilded quest]

Voltage

[warm wharf]

Devices themselves might be, I'm not aware of many modern laptops though that come with 2.0 ports

[amber shuttle]

I mean who charges over HDMI

I know Ethernet used to be a thing for HDMI

[manic torrent]

Type c power delivery is a standard that is seperate to communication

[stray apex]

micro-b is so fragile that literally every single cable I've owned has eventually had the retention prongs fail

[manic torrent]

But type a USB is different

[gilded quest]

A lot of cheap USB C devices don't work with C to C cables cause they can't report voltage or something

[polar fern]

You know what I mean.

[warm wharf]

I've got 3 Type A's and 2 Type C's on my laptop

but they're all 3.2

[gilded quest]

This means nothing

[manic torrent]

I have two thunderbolt 4 ports on my laptop. It's perfect.

[gilded quest]

The USB implementors forum really sucks at naming

[polar fern]

Yeah the micro USB port only devices are basically ewaste waiting to happen

[warm wharf]

It doesn't mean everything, there's gen 1, 2, 2x2, etc. but they're not 2.0

[gilded quest]

Don't forget 1.1

[amber shuttle]

Industry - Thunderbolt 3 is now standard for all USB-C ports
Mouse manufacturers - Ok employees, start implementing 8000hz polling rate for all our new releases and raise their price up by 34%

[stray apex]

if that's what it takes to get type-c on mice I'll take it

[gilded quest]

On their USB 2.0 mice?

[manic torrent]

Thunderbolt is awesome. A thunderbolt cable will work with any device.

[manic torrent]

Yep

[warm wharf]

my mouse's 1000 hz, can't imagine there's any need for much higher

[amber shuttle]

but just not get maxed out in terms of transfer rate for data if its not a TB port thats connected, correct?

[polar fern]

Okay I am going to take a moment and look for my power bank I have not been able to find it in over a month and I am going on a (as Covid safety minded as possible) trip soon.

[amber shuttle]

not really. Except for those few that have blinding fast reaction times who can see the difference like Tfue

[manic torrent]

Thunderbolt cables are certified for thunderbolt which has complete backwards compatibility

[polar fern]

I may just buy a new one, but I’ve like to find this one first

[amber shuttle]

bye

[manic torrent]

Probably not - the only reason might be to fix stutter on high frame rates

[stray apex]

thunderbolt cables are basically just really really well built usb-c cables

[amber shuttle]

That was what I thought before I found out my apple mouse had a polling rate of 90hz

[manic torrent]

Yep, and certified and independently tested

[polar fern]

I don’t care what ports are used where as long as they work properly and are designed in a way that makes them make sense for the products are used on

[warm wharf]

Not saying I want 90 hz 😄

But 1000 seems plenty high

[amber shuttle]

its noticeable when going from 90hz to 1000hz

[stray apex]

I mean, you could in theory use a cable that was never certified or tested if it was constructed well enough

[polar fern]

My face is 90hz

[stray apex]

but then if you're spending the kind of money to get a cable built like that, you might as well spring for the certification

[amber shuttle]

but 1000hz to 8000hz? I'm sorry Razer Viper 8Khz, it seems to me you've had too many extraterrestrial customers and not enough human ones

[manic torrent]

You can and I have. The reason to get a proper TB cable is that shit Just Works

[warm wharf]

DPI on mice is stupid too

[amber shuttle]

to know your own employee species no spot difference

[manic torrent]

I have lots of different type c cables.

[amber shuttle]

Actually, the DPI metric isn't really for consumers that are basic

its to state improvements for the advanced users

[warm wharf]

I more meant that the crazy high numbers they chase with dpi are stupid

and not useful

[amber shuttle]

me who's 13 - she said wha--

[manic torrent]

I have a 3 port thunderbolt hub. It's awesome. I can plug in my laptop, it charges the laptop, and I can plug in a USB C monitor, it powers the monitor and displays

I have two thunderbolt egpus

[desert dagger]

gfs screen has built in hub (85W delivery I think?).. plugs laptop into screen, wireless reciever for heaset, mouse+kb all on the back of the monitor...

neat with just 1 fricking cable

i am slightly bit jealous

[amber shuttle]

that was my point

[desert dagger]

thats also an ace setup ngl

...bit dusty maybe

[manic torrent]

Haha yeah I don't dust the back of my monitor there.

[warm wharf]

I don't think advanced users use 25000+ dpi

[amber shuttle]

the metric itself is useless, 20K dpi or whatever, but what allows it to do that is important

[manic torrent]

But I have spent a boat load of money so that I have less cables.

Like.... Hundreds of dollars to remove one cable

[amber shuttle]

no. but it usually means the mouse sensor tracks better at lower resolutions

than previous iterations with lower max DPIs

[glacial basin]

I JUST ADOPTED USB-C

[amber shuttle]

this judgement is superseded now by the trend that no matter max DPI, newer sensor = better performance most of the time now

[warm wharf]

Pretty sure my mouse tops out at 25600, it's got a decent sensor, I just don't really notice it being noticeably superior to mice with lower maximum dpi

[manic torrent]

Thunderbolt is a protocol that runs on USB c

[stray apex]

dpi isn't really what makes a mouse good

[amber shuttle]

Logitech

[manic torrent]

USB C is a connector specification that includes spec for negotiation and power delivery

[amber shuttle]

Hero 25K, bet

[glacial basin]

oh lmao

[desert dagger]

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a05a29db

[warm wharf]

Yeah, G604

[desert dagger]

thats the monitor that the missus got, its pretty dang neat

[manic torrent]

Nice. I just have a 32" 4K screen on my secondary desk. Main PC has a 48" OLED

[desert dagger]

49" Ultrawide for my PC, not OLED though (edit: its QLED)

[amber shuttle]

Logitech states that their sensor is the first to track at a sub-micron level, to ensure a ton of accuracy with high power efficiency rating - proved true by RTINGS

none of their Hero mice ever have CPI (DPI) deviations past ±3% on RTINGS graphs

this allows it to hit 25600 DPI

the 25600 on its own is useless, but knowing how its achievable is key

[amber shuttle]

from my view, the higher the resolution the lower the accuracy of tracking

well obviously no one competently uses a mouse at max DPI in terms of one for gaming without specialised training or 10 ultrawide monitors next to each other

so thats one factor

[warm wharf]

I mostly just stick with logitech because I've had their mice last for years typically, whereas I got two razer mice for free, and both died in under a year

[amber shuttle]

logitech's budget stuff doesn't disappoint

[warm wharf]

bought laptops that came with the free razer mice

a deathadder and an orochi

[amber shuttle]

higher end could be more premium in terms of aesthetics

[warm wharf]

both lasted like 8 months or something

[amber shuttle]

but performance is already there

[amber shuttle]

they have far better qc for their mice now, but their keyboards are dying in the same aspect

[warm wharf]

Not sure if you'd consider G604 budget, but I got it fairly cheap

Think MSRP is $100

but I paid $45 on a sale

[amber shuttle]

I didn't think that was a HERO mouse, thought the G305 was the only HERO AA battery wireless mouse

but prove me wrong

[warm wharf]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g604-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse.910-005622.html

[amber shuttle]

yea its expensive lol

[warm wharf]

$59.99 atm, but does say $99.99 full price

[amber shuttle]

but then again, my Superlight is $150 USD, $289 NZD where I live

[warm wharf]

seems to usually be on sale though

[gilded quest]

2.5/5 rating

[warm wharf]

Only 35 reviews

Either way, I'm happy with it, still have a G602 that works fine too

just replaced it with the 604 when the 604 was on sale so I didn't have to buy a replacement at full price if my 602 died

think I got the 604 like 2 years ago

had the 602 for like 5 years

[polar fern]

Bit challenging trying to engage in ongoing tech conversations on mobile.

[amber shuttle]

Corsair Dark CORE RGB mouse?

[polar fern]

On power over USB, it’s not a priority for data, just voltage/current based on the standard’s power spec. I mean, they literally have data only & power only cables & ports.

[fallen marten]

helo

[polar fern]

Hi

[amber shuttle]

moved on lol

[polar fern]

I was looking for my power bank - girlfriend is sleeping so I couldn’t look more than with a flashlight on shelves so I’m back.

My desk is in there too, so I’m still on mobile

[amber shuttle]

imagine having a gf, I enter a room to find everyone else has left

[polar fern]

That’s rough buddy

[amber shuttle]

Usually I can stand a few convos or two, I talk too long its as annoying when a baby coos

[manic torrent]

Yep, dark core RGB se iirc. Wireless charging, USB C, etc.

[amber shuttle]

I find intellectual stimulation fun though, thinking about new things

[manic torrent]

I have an actual 4 year old who whinges, so eh :)

[polar fern]

11 & 15 here. 😬

[amber shuttle]

Lmao, how much a pun that could become:

"gah why are children so frustrating to deal with?"
That child Mensan you adopted - "For you're olds?" (4 year olds?)

(olds being an affectionate term for elders in this context)

[upbeat ridge]

Literally McDonald’s WiFi

(It works tho, even for video streaming)

[polar fern]

Olds?

[quiet knoll]

Why does that look like something Dall-e mini made

[polar fern]

Because it’s GM from the 1990’s

[oak peak]

for all the wrong reasons imo

[polar fern]

Who?

[oak peak]

Andrew tate

[unkempt imp]

Never heard of him

[stone aurora]

well their purpose is clear they provide food not high end technology

;-;

and i can pretty much say they are bad at both

[stray apex]

as far as I know he's like, a professional uh
actually I'm pretty sure most words used to describe him are on the bot's list

[unkempt imp]

I googled him and he’s umm an interesting fellow to say in the most pg way possible

[stone aurora]

He was a professional boxer but some of his topics the way it comes out it's just not so right

thats my opinion

[unkempt imp]

I went to his Wikipedia page and just read the controversy section

He doesn’t seem like the type of guy that I’d like

[stone aurora]

he just gives advices to people and then just don't apply them in his own life

wich is kinda hypocrisit

[unkempt imp]

I’m not gonna go too far into detail about why I don’t think I’d like him because its mainly about his opinions on certain topics that aren’t allowed here lol

Well, the opinions that Wikipedia has made me aware of

[stone aurora]

too sensetive topics wooo o.O

[potent steppe]

Yo I want to fix something but I don't feel comfortable entering bios

Wait wrong chat

[full fossil]

I crossed the border from Spain to France (live near)
An have lot more tech magazines than Spain
In Spain we have 1, they have 7. Am jealous

[upbeat ridge]

Oh believe me I’d know😂

We ran on the XP based windows server (2003?) with xp machines until 2020 so yeah

[unkempt imp]

The PoS at my job still does run on windows xp 😂

[upbeat ridge]

Then windows 8 (not 8.1) together with windows server 2012, but now we’re on server 2019 with windows 10 POS

And with POS I mean all the screens in the entire building basically

[upbeat ridge]

Since 2021

[unkempt imp]

I tried to upgrade it to windows 7 but I have to jump to vista first and I’m having a hard time finding a vista disk. I would just do a clean install but we gotta keep the PoS software installed since it won’t actually install on windows 7 😂

Actually I think my coworker said he got it installed but it kept saying something about a database not being correct

[upbeat ridge]

All running on HP mini pc’s strewn around the place behind the screens, all connected to the displays via a displayport to VGA adapter, even tho those things have a VGA port on them

Except that the server does get a server closet that’s 16U

With all the network gear alongside it running on cat4 wiring, in a room without AC or anything to cool it down with the top of the rack also being used as storage space, same with the rest of that closet

[unkempt imp]

Ours is some old dell Inspiron desktop

[upbeat ridge]

It’s on average about 10C hotter in there compared to the rest of the restaurant

[unkempt imp]

God bless

Yeah I work at a mini golf course so we don’t require much. Just something to keep track of payments lol

I’m half way tempted to see if the owner will let me keep my Plex server plugged into the main router at work 😂

[glacial basin]

bro this OnePlus phone is buggy as shit

when I charge it and unplug it it either doesn't turn on or turns on normally

[unkempt imp]

Yeah one plus hasn’t been that good the last few years from what I’ve heard

[gentle slate]

Welp discord finally pushed out their android update. Time to downgrade.

[stone aurora]

Lmao i told u they are bad at both

[upbeat ridge]

Yeah fair

[stone aurora]

so are u the technical engineer there or ?

[manic torrent]

Discord on android seems to open/crash open/crash then open and it works.

[limpid fern]

Its possible but highly unlikely

[spiral kraken]

well it's too weak unless you happen to live near a big ass coil of powered coiled wire or something

[upbeat ridge]

Lol no I just am the guy that knows a thing or two about computers in case tech support or the CTO is not here

Most I figured out by asking (don’t try things in a prod environment unless you’re certain you know what you are doing)

Aka some of the POS systems are uhm

Icky if they shut down and can sometimes take down the whole network

[manic torrent]

I don't always test.

But when I do, I do it in production.

[silent flame]

Is there a cure time for thermal paste?

[manic torrent]

uhhh, it doesn't cure.

I mean it dries out, but it isn't glue

[night tulip]

morning

[finite briar]

ooft

that's where web apps are on top xD

[exotic jetty]

Hello and i hope everyone is having a Good night

[carmine merlin]

no, but you should still re-paste once every 2-3 years. Thermal paste typically dries and not cure like glue or resin

[drowsy oyster]

i use arch btw

[gentle slate]

Yuh its buggy af now. Moreso than before

it switched to whatever iOS uses. React Native or something. Threw font scaling, animations, everything outta the window

[crystal kayak]

bro the last time i went to venice in late 2014 this restaurant had windows 95 running on its pos

[waxen cobalt]

Ive never had a problem with discord on android. Sounds more like a problem with ur device

[coarse kayak]

o yh i applied for mcdonalds in UK at one point and you couldn't access one of the work websites unless you were on internet explorer

and I think an old version of it lol

[waxen cobalt]

I had a friend that applied to mcdonalds and got turned down

[full fossil]

How is DDR2 doing in 2022?

Is 8gb of DDR2 enough?

[waxen cobalt]

8gb is bare min nowadays

Dint see why it wouldnt work just would be slow

[dense ember]

Oh it'll work, just not well

And hardly worth doing. A kit of DDR4 will run you like 60$ lol

[full fossil]

Yea, its more expensive than ddr4

[dense ember]

Not to mention harder to find, I'm sure

[glacial basin]

too expensive, $47.97 for a kit of 2x8gb 3200 cl16

[median idol]

Going to be doing my first custom loop tomorrow

Pretty psyched

[waxen cobalt]

Make sire to put holes in the pipes

[manic torrent]

Protip: you will have to redo it entirely at least once, likely several times

Source: my build

[median idol]

Ah I see. From the time frame you've built yours, how many times did you redid it?

[dense ember]

Idk my first went beautifully. Hard-line too. If you take your time with it, you might not have to redo at all

[manic torrent]

Yeah I mean I redesigned it as well, and changed fittings and stuff

[median idol]

Mine is also going to be hard-line tubing. Got 8m of rigid tubing from Bitspower and the fittings are also from Bitspower

[manic torrent]

Also I wasn't happy with some of the bends. They were slightly off. Also my build is relatively tight. I never designed it to have a D5, but the DDC died over Easter and I could only get a D5

[dense ember]

Good choice! I'm about to redo my whole loop and I'm also going with bitspower this time

[manic torrent]

I have a combination - some of the clearances and bits in my build need specific parts, annoyingly. It's also stupidly hard in Australia to get everything in stock (or at least it was at the time)

[dense ember]

yeah hope it's better now. I've always heard it's pretty hard to find stuff there

[manic torrent]

The good news is because of the way I did it I have a boatload of spare fittings etc

Tonight was broken tool night. First the tap, then a drill bit.

[olive cape]

As my windows11 update tp 22622.450,sometimes I cannot move the File Explorer.Is anyone in the same situation as me？

The window cannot be dragged

[full fossil]

hi i'd like to get a second opinion on this pc i was thinking about getting for 1400 USD: https://pastebin.com/J8etNmDv

[wise drift]

Backpack has been ordered :D

[obtuse epoch]

Where's Jake discord because reasons :)

[lucid echo]

8. Do not tag the LTT staff team unless they're active in chat. Pinging LTT staff for any other reason will be punished.

[obtuse epoch]

Oh

I think this is why rules exist

[red flume]

does anyone know if there's any active coupon codes for the LTT store? I'm buying the backpack and then i found the beanie and the water bottle. One thing after another now its a decent size order and I just wanted to check before I hit the buy button 😅

[pliant karma]

I have no complaints really, reprogrammed the side buttons for ingame macros, on fly dpi adjustment etc. Razer has the viper ultimate line nailed, it's just software I am gonna piss on.

[lucid echo]

Only promotion right now is $20 the WAN hoodie if you buy the backpack with it

[pliant karma]

Had my fair share of razer synapse breaking windows to the point I have to use the restore points

[red flume]

20$ off or for 20$?

[lucid echo]

sorry, $20 off

[dry trellis]

Huh. I could be getting A+ certification as part of my job

[red flume]

ah okay thank you, just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at it wrong

thank you!

👀 lastly, has anyone bought the underwear?

like is it worth it? just want to make sure before i buy it

[lucid echo]

I haven't but I've heard very very good things

[gentle slate]

Idk. The reddit has blown up with complaints about the update. Have you updated it?

[red flume]

sold lol, thank you. Glad to finally support LTT with merch 🙂 . Take care everyone and thanks @lucid echo for the help!

[waxen cobalt]

Aye all mine is up to date, phone is up to date and tab is on beta branch for android

[lucid echo]

Sure! Idk if you wanna wait until WAN show (definitely should not for the backapack, get that ASAP) for part of your order, but you can send merch messages that they may read off during stream

Forgot to hit send, you prob already put in your order lmao

[red flume]

I just did the order fudge 🤣

[lucid echo]

Sorry bout that lmao

[amber spindle]

O shit I need underwear maybe ill try ltt ones

[lucid echo]

Odds are they wouldn’t have read it. They get dozens and only answer 4-5

[amber spindle]

Nevermind its $50 usd for three lmao

Plus whatever shipping will be

[rich fog]

Do you guys think I should wait for the new am5 or just buy the current gen while it’s on sale?

For reference, it would be my first build

[grim zodiac]

current gen

[rich fog]

Not an upgrade

[grim zodiac]

do you want good stuff or do you want the best stuff but it will be overpriced

[rich fog]

Can you explain your reason behind it?

[rich fog]

Good

[grim zodiac]

Well it's cheaper

[rich fog]

But I was thinking that down the line, I would just be paying the same

To upgrade later

[grim zodiac]

i mean

[lilac sage]

whats ur current specs

[grim zodiac]

but would you really need to upgrade

[lilac sage]

if you have a crappy laptop with a 1650 or no integrated graphics at all youll likely have low standards

[rich fog]

I can share my pcpartpicker list, tho some hardware are makeshift cause they may not be available at my local store

[lilac sage]

in that case id say current gen

if you have something nice go for next gen

[rich fog]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hLVshk

I live in Canada so prices will differ

[lilac sage]

meh build tbh. what are you doing on this PC?

[rich fog]

ahem 2017 MacBook Air ahem

[lilac sage]

current gen then

[rich fog]

5-6 years later, probably

[grim zodiac]

I mean if the cpu goes bad ;- ;

or graphics get to insane

[lilac sage]

AM5 may last 5 years

but we dont know

[grim zodiac]

I mean I still use an i3

[rich fog]

Do you have experience building pcs?

[lilac sage]

yes

[grim zodiac]

yes

[rich fog]

Wanna do some 3D stuff and coding and some art

Games too ofc

[rich fog]

Then your feedback is VERY much appreciated

[lilac sage]

whats the 3d stuff

like professional?

[rich fog]

3D models in blender for animation and stuff

[grim zodiac]

<html>
<head><title>wut<title></head>
<body>
<p>C o d i n g </p>
</body>
</html>

[rich fog]

As a hobby

[grim zodiac]

Thanks

[rich fog]

This is not real coding but yeah

[grim zodiac]

Ik java

But only spigot

[rich fog]

Java is pure pain

[grim zodiac]

no no no

[rich fog]

I hate it so much

[grim zodiac]

that's javascript

javascript is the pain

[shrewd basalt]

what software can i use to move all the data from one ssd to another?

[grim zodiac]

can't you just drag and drop?

[rich fog]

Haven’t tried it yet

[grim zodiac]

don't

[rich fog]

Pretty sure this is possible

[grim zodiac]

you will regret it

[rich fog]

I will, took web dev course this trimester

[grim zodiac]

Welp

Prepare for torture

[rich fog]

Won’t be the first thing I regret

[rich fog]

Already am

[grim zodiac]

i mean if you think java is bad

javascript is a whole nother world

[lucid echo]

They're both a pain. If you work in one of them more, the other feels like a bigger pain.

I don't regret learning JS. It's a very valuable skill.

[grim zodiac]

I know java html and css

[rich fog]

It’s just the class referencing and all that that ticks me off

[grim zodiac]

I can't learn anything else my brain won't allow it

[lucid echo]

JS is a lot more forgiving with that

[grim zodiac]

i mean I just let my ide do all that stuff

[lucid echo]

Dynamically typed languages help a lot early on, but can reinforce bad habits if you're not careful

[rich fog]

Ik c++, python, Java, html

[rich fog]

Not as bad as python

[lucid echo]

Eh it's about the same

[rich fog]

Python is really easy but makes you take the easy way out

[lucid echo]

Only crucial difference would be constant/variable enforcement

[rich fog]

Yeah I saw that

[lucid echo]

Very fast to write out though. Let the transpiled Cython libraries handle all the complicated computation :P

[grim zodiac]

            switch (args.length) {
                default:
                    sender.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &4Unknown Args try /heal or /heal [player]."));
                    break;
                case 0:
                    if (player.hasPermission("server.heal")) {
                        player.setHealth(20);
                        player.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &aYou've been healed."));
                        player.sendMessage(colorize(healMessage));
                    } else {
                        player.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &4You don't have permission to heal."));
                    }
                    break;
                case 1:
                    if (player.hasPermission("server.heal.others")) {
                        Player target = Bukkit.getPlayerExact(args[0]);
                        if (target == null) {
                            player.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &4That person isn't online."));
                        } else {
                            target.setHealth(20);
                            target.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &aYou've been healed by &e&o" + player.getName() + "&a."));
                            player.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &aYou've healed &e&o" + target.getName() + "&a."));
                        }
                    } else {
                        player.sendMessage(colorize("&b&lTL &b&o: &4You don't have permission to heal others."));
                    }
                    break;
            }

[rich fog]

My parents have both majored in computer science and learned js

[grim zodiac]

that looks easy to understand for me

[rich fog]

Finally

Meh

Same as Java

[lilac sage]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z44wmr something like these seems more appropriate

[grim zodiac]

class stuff isn't even horible

[lucid echo]

Enums are great, they're real fun in Swift

[rich fog]

A shit ton of modules implemented in one another

[grim zodiac]

package me.darklife12345.serverplugin;

import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.Feed;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.Fly;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.GodMode;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.Heal;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.specialcommands.Gamemode;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.specialcommands.Multisummon;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.specialcommands.PlayerStats;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.commands.specialcommands.Server;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.events.ChatEvent;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.events.NoFish;
import me.darklife12345.serverplugin.events.OnPlayerJoinLeaveEvent;
import org.bukkit.ChatColor;
import org.bukkit.plugin.PluginManager;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;
import org.jetbrains.annotations.NotNull;

import java.util.Objects;

public final class ServerPlugin extends JavaPlugin {```

My ide handles all the imports

[lilac sage]

so why did you want a 5900X?

[rich fog]

Don’t you think a 3060 would be more bang for the buck?

And I wanna be able to stream for fun, will that run it?

[grim zodiac]

i mean it's cheaper

[lucid echo]

Post your unnecessarily large code blocks in #development silly goose

[lilac sage]

arent you upgrading in 6 years?

[rich fog]

Cause more cores for steaming

[grim zodiac]

no silly moose

[rich fog]

Probably

[lilac sage]

you stream on the GPU

[rich fog]

I see

[lilac sage]

you can stream on the CPU

[grim zodiac]

I mean 3060 has 12gb VRAM

[lilac sage]

but if ur going nvidia you might as well take advantage of the encoder

[rich fog]

I will later take machine learning and ai courses, doesn’t it require a lot of power too?

[grim zodiac]

maybe like a 850w psu

[rich fog]

Makes sense

[lilac sage]

the 3070 is not gonna overload a 750W PSU

[rich fog]

I am sorry, I never really had a pc so even when I searched I couldn’t make sense of it

[lilac sage]

it draws less than 300W guaranteed

the CPU prob wont draw more than 150W

[rich fog]

I see

[lucid echo]

You won't benefit much from a powerful CPU for that, especially if its just classes on those subjects
An Nvidia GPU for CUDA is about all you need to satisfy those classes, odds are you'll be doing most of the work on their machines anyways

[lilac sage]

Blender is mostly GPU

Coding takes like nothing cpu wise

[grim zodiac]

not true

[rich fog]

I understand

[lilac sage]

streaming can be cpu or gpu

[lilac sage]

man is taking classes

[grim zodiac]

if you try to compile a shit ton of code all at once

[rich fog]

So better gpu less cpu got it

[lucid echo]

Only exception is compiling very large repos, which they likely will not be doing

And if they are, it'll be for a job that gave them a machine to do so

[lilac sage]

ye I doubt you will leverage the 5700X to the fullest during school

[rich fog]

Uni server ig

[lilac sage]

heck my friend did CS with a i7-4790. he didn't do anything heavy for sure.

[rich fog]

What about photoshop and animate?

[lilac sage]

photoshop is typically both iirc

but keep in mind here

you have an 8 core current gen part

there are so many people doing more than you on older hardware

[rich fog]

Yeah

[lucid echo]

Your school projects are gonna be extremely simple and lightweight

[grim zodiac]

hey @lilac sage

[lilac sage]

I looked it up and photoshop is more cpu intensive.

[rich fog]

It’s just that my dual core MacBook struggles to even run discord and YouTube at once

[grim zodiac]

do you know a cheap small gpu that can fit in the nr200p

[rich fog]

So I was paranoid

[grim zodiac]

it has 2 cores

what do you expect

[lilac sage]

ye trust me this PC is better than 90% of PCs out there

most ppl still running a 1050ti-1070

[rich fog]

That’s why I thought “more cores, better”

[lilac sage]

it is better but its diminishing returns

[rich fog]

I see

[grim zodiac]

that's not really the case for everything

[rich fog]

How do

[lilac sage]

starting around 4 cores typically

when ppl write these programs they need to code it to leverage extra cores

[grim zodiac]

I mean you can get a 3060 it will have 12gb VRAM or you could get a 3060 TI with only 8

[lilac sage]

we havent reached a point where alot of programs are easily using all 12 cores

since there isnt really a huge need

most ppl are on 6 or below

[grim zodiac]

5 core cpu

[lilac sage]

the VRAM difference is pretty moot

[grim zodiac]

it's a whole 4gb

[rich fog]

Shouldn’t more vram be better? I was always wondering why it was like this

[grim zodiac]

I mean the 3060 TI has more cuda cores and shit

[rich fog]

I see

[rich fog]

Yeah ik that

[lilac sage]

more vram is better but it comes at a cost of GPU cores

[grim zodiac]

also you don't honestly need 12gb VRAM for anything

[rich fog]

But why not have just as much vram

[grim zodiac]

If you want vram get a 3090

[lilac sage]

is your budget 2200CAD?

[grim zodiac]

It h as a whole 24gb VRAM

[swift fulcrum]

my understand is if you dont have a use for teh vram, it just sits there and doesnt do anything, so why pay extra for unused resources

[grim zodiac]

exactly

[rich fog]

Honestly, my budget is as much as my part time gave me, but I would like to limit myself to 2500 cad including the monitors

[lilac sage]

aight

[rich fog]

Nuh uh

[lilac sage]

because you can fit in a 12GB 3080 for around 2100CAD

[grim zodiac]

ik

[lilac sage]

should ease any worries

[rich fog]

What uses vram exactly?

[swift fulcrum]

in games, higher resolutions and their corresponding textures, outside of that I dont know

12gb of vram when playing at 1080 for example, is pointless

[lilac sage]

more demanding scenes in blender

like rendering the death star or something

[rich fog]

I will probably buy elden ring

[grim zodiac]

bioshock

[lilac sage]

elden ring is capped at 60FPS

[rich fog]

Yeah pretty much, I would get a 1440p monitor if possible

[rich fog]

Ah, that’s why it is said to not perform well

[lilac sage]

elden ring is actually not that demanding

[rich fog]

Ik, that is why I am confused

[lilac sage]

Microsoft Flight Simulator, Cyberpunk 2077, and Far Cry 6 still hit harder

[rich fog]

If you didn’t already notice, I have 0 real life experience with this stuff

[grim zodiac]

minecraft with shaders

[rich fog]

That too

[lucid echo]

Machine learning programs will load data onto the VRAM when training/validating, but doesn't use a ton in most cases

[rich fog]

Aight, so when I am back home, I will compile a list of stuff that are available near me to show you guys

[lilac sage]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDQMMb heres the same list with a 3080 12GB and a 850W PSU to support it

switched out the case tho

[grim zodiac]

The MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7C56vA9. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.```

[lilac sage]

ye it always says that

find me an amd motherboard that doesnt say that with a 5000 series CPU

[grim zodiac]

I will somehow make it go away

I will

just for you

[lilac sage]

yup its gonan be like a 300CAD MB

[rich fog]

What monitors should I get, 2 monitors setup

[lilac sage]

typically yes

[rich fog]

Online almost never

But in store it would have a label

[lilac sage]

either 2 of the same rez

or a nice rez for gaming + lower rez for secondary content

[rich fog]

Probably this

[grim zodiac]

I did it

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZWjRv

[rich fog]

Lower res for discord or chat

[swift fulcrum]

I have 1 good one and one not so good one lol

[lilac sage]

or a nice rez for youtube and other stuff + a fast Hz for gaming

[lilac sage]

wow only 300CAD.

[grim zodiac]

no only 280CAD

[lilac sage]

ye and it doesnt have pcie gen 4

[rich fog]

A bit expensive

[lilac sage]

its a B450 board

[grim zodiac]

i will find a cheaper one than

[lilac sage]

the chipset for B450 came out in 2018

[slate bear]

Just got upgraded to 5G UWB on Verizon, first speed test broke 2800 lmao

[grim zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QJxqhk

done

[lilac sage]

are you fine with Micro ATX motherboards?

they are smaller than normal ATX

usually have like 1-2 less pcie x16 slots

[grim zodiac]

the only thing I am using my pcie slot is for a ssd slot lmao

[full fossil]

I'm so glad I didn't use the machinery engine

[rich fog]

I would prefer atx for more expansion in the future

[lilac sage]

given that we're on a roll. what expansion were you thinking of

[grim zodiac]

ok I will find a cheap atx board that dosen't have the error message

[rich fog]

It’s fine, I won’t get it online, will go get it in person

[grim zodiac]

I did it https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9GdtLs

[grim zodiac]

a graphics card

[lilac sage]

you already have a graphics card tho

[grim zodiac]

no I don't

[lilac sage]

ok you have 1 graphics card

[grim zodiac]

no I don't bruh

[lilac sage]

what expansion

[rich fog]

Alright, thanks guys, will catch up with you later when I have enough time

[grim zodiac]

I got intel UHD graphics

I asked you what I should get earlier

[grim zodiac]

^^^

[lilac sage]

If someone has a microatx board. what expansion would you need to warrant an ATX board over a mATX?

[grim zodiac]

uh there are multible things

[lilac sage]

AERO ITX GPUs

[grim zodiac]

such as wifi cards sound cards

[rich fog]

Typically, atx have more nvme slots from what I understand

[grim zodiac]

USB expansion cards

[rich fog]

Plus, atx looks better