public-chat

[gilded swan]

i do and i am thankful for it

yeah i think we can all agree with this

[manic torrent]

completely wrong. I have applied for lots of jobs. In fact, two jobs recently that I was interviewing for got changed and removed - luck.

[short copper]

when you apply for a job its not just you

[fluid ridge]

thats not luck, thats them finding someone who worked harder than you did

[manic torrent]

nope - plenty of people near the top did stuff all.

[short copper]

and how do you quantify "working harder"? from a CV?

[manic torrent]

.... you are just really hooked on this idea that the world is FAIR

the world is not fair.

[fluid ridge]

well sure, education, experience, etc.

all qualify as working harder

[manic torrent]

The game is rigged. And if you win the finance game, then you often lose a lot of the rest of it

[gilded swan]

it is

[fluid ridge]

if you have a phd in particle physics and i have a community college arts diploma, i think we can agree who worked harder 🗿

[short copper]

you could be a hard working person from difficult circumstances such as disability, poverty, illness etc. and someone who doesnt have the same issues as you who maybe doesnt work as hard or care as much could probably get picked instead of you

[gilded swan]

its very biased but nothing you can't do better than someone else with enough experience

[manic torrent]

Almost everyone I know/knew who work hard to be rich are horrible people that I don't want to be near.

Because being rich isn't fulfilling.

[gilded swan]

damn bro

[fluid ridge]

being rich is the ultimate end goal

[short copper]

I don't have ambitions of being rich

[unborn flare]

But the guy with the PHD isn't guaranteed to make more than you you

[short copper]

i would much rather do something i enjoy than make more money

[fluid ridge]

human civilization was built on the endless strive and desire for success

[ripe parcel]

Hey everyone I have a quick question

[manic torrent]

to what end? why? What's enjoyable about being rich? It wont fill that hole in your soul

[fluid ridge]

man is driven by greed

[gilded swan]

i have experience with rich gen z kids

[short copper]

maybe some men

[fluid ridge]

all men

[gilded swan]

and their mindsets are disgusting

[manic torrent]

They actually aren't

[unborn flare]

Those are utter trash usually

[gilded swan]

REALL TRASH

[short copper]

I don't have any desire for endless amounts of cash that i could never know what to do with

[unborn flare]

That's because you don't have a family

[fluid ridge]

i have that desire because that puts you on a rung above everyone else

[manic torrent]

I like cool stuff, and I like money to buy stuff - but money itself doesn't bring me any joy whatsoever,.

[short copper]

I don't plan on having one either

[fluid ridge]

you are higher on the hierarchy

[manic torrent]

so you're a power tripping asshole

[fluid ridge]

you are afforded luxuries and experiences you could only dream of

[gilded swan]

lemme give you a glimpse:

they think that they dont have anything when they have everything
they are always jealous
they have an immense ego that their iq can't fulfill

[fluid ridge]

no, like all i am motivated by success and success happens to be relative

[unborn flare]

Yes yes i get it you will utilise the amount you earn but to get your family the starter boost you need tons of money

[short copper]

you can think that having more money makes you a superior person, but really you having all that money doesnt make you any better than anyone else

[manic torrent]

My experience of spending more time with my son is an experience you can't even dream of.

[short copper]

i doubt most people would care about you more than their friends/family

[fluid ridge]

money doesnt make you a superior person, i never said this nor do i believe this

we are all humans, we all bleed red

[unborn flare]

Indeed it doesn't but it guarantees a higher quality of living and better healthcare especially in a country like the US

[manic torrent]

Not always, but mostly

[fluid ridge]

what i said was that money puts you higher on a man made food chain we call society

[short copper]

I don't live in the US, I wouldn't want to

[fluid ridge]

the urge to be at the top of the food chain is what drives most people

[short copper]

i love where i live and I wouldn't want to leave

[manic torrent]

it absolutely isn't. That's not how people work.

[gilded swan]

being really rich doesn't give you more pleasure

[short copper]

im perfectly content with comfortable living

[gilded swan]

money can't buy that kind of happiness

[manic torrent]

The desire to not starve and be homeless is what motivates most people.

[unborn flare]

You are lucky that you don't live in the us as financially insecure person

[short copper]

Yes i am lucky for that

[fluid ridge]

which is above a certain level in the food chain

[short copper]

im lucky i was born where i was and when i was

[gilded swan]

i am lucky for that too

[manic torrent]

.... It's the bare minimum

[fluid ridge]

some are happy being in the middle, i want to be at the top

[unborn flare]

Me too actually kekw

[short copper]

but of course being born on the poverty line wasn't incredibly lucky for me

[gilded swan]

everyone should aim for the top

[fluid ridge]

^^^

[short copper]

I don't think everyone should aim for the top

[gilded swan]

you should have that mindset even if you dont reach it

[unborn flare]

Oh but i have one question are you a teenager?

[manic torrent]

You may or may not get there, or get anywhere, but you'll be an asshole no matter what.

[fluid ridge]

no

[short copper]

everyone should aim for whatever fufills them, which in its own way that can be their personal "top"

[manic torrent]

obviously

[gilded swan]

even if you miss you will get somewhere

[gilded swan]

EXACTLY

[gilded swan]

not even really

[fluid ridge]

how is "i want to be successful" translate to automatic asshole

[manic torrent]

That you have to ask that question means you have absolutely no idea.

[short copper]

personally, my main goal for the next decade of my life is to get my dream car, drive the NC500 with my friends and just enjoy myself

[unborn flare]

Not you lol sir you're older than me

[gilded swan]

14

missclick oops

[tawdry musk]

When you make it to the top you will loose all the people you care about

[graceful burrow]

Ain't no way you like jamiroquai more than me

[fluid ridge]

you have a goal, i hope it comes true 🤟

[short copper]

my favourite band ever

[manic torrent]

I'm not detecting anyone cared about to start with 🙂

[gilded swan]

people around you get more attracted to your money than you as a person

[fluid ridge]

whys that

[unborn flare]

Ah yes material goals

[gilded swan]

its a goal alright

[manic torrent]

My goal over the next 10 years is to buy land in a nice semi rural town and build a house and a massive shed, etc. live a good life.

[gilded swan]

you could aim even higher

[graceful burrow]

I won't lie the only jamiroquai song I know is virtual insanity
Any tbh it's an absolute bop

[short copper]

i think i could name most of them

[manic torrent]

the only song ANYONE knows from them is that.

[unborn flare]

Nais

[gilded swan]

my goal is to become a really successful person and have a good wife and some kids to enjoy the rest of my life with

[manic torrent]

what is a good wife

[fluid ridge]

we all have aspirations then

[gilded swan]

somebody that loves me and somebody that i love

[manic torrent]

jave you seen 'tangled'?

[graceful burrow]

I have no aspirations

[gilded swan]

somebody that wouldn't leave me for materialistic things

[fluid ridge]

we all have different ladders to climb, but they all go upwards

[short copper]

i think im at like, 5k jamiroquai plays rn

[fluid ridge]

no rich person strives to be poor

[gilded swan]

somebody thats not with me for my money

[short copper]

give or take 100

[fluid ridge]

nope

[manic torrent]

They sing a song, and one of the characters dreams of being rich, and everyone tells him his dream is stupid.

That is what you need to realise. Nobody cares.

[short copper]

everyone has aspirations but different motivations

[unborn flare]

Can rear children well a good mother? Iss supportive ? Knows how to not breakdown when something goes bad in life?

[fluid ridge]

nobody cares until you reach the top

[tawdry musk]

Because poverty isn't about freedom

[unborn flare]

Those are just expectations

[manic torrent]

that's not how breakdowns work

[gilded swan]

when nobody cares you have a greater chance of becoming successful

[graceful burrow]

If my significant other doesn't support avx512 are they really worth it

[manic torrent]

no, they still don't care.

[gilded swan]

you guys have heard that you are the average of your 5 closest friends

[short copper]

does that matter? if most people dont care about you?

[fluid ridge]

you think anyone would give a shit about elon musk if he was a law associate at some random law firm in the middle of new york

[gilded swan]

if the people around you or your friends put you down

[short copper]

im a nobody and i still have people that care about me for me, rich people have people that care about their money

[fluid ridge]

no, because there are 10 thousand of these people but there is 1 elon musk

[gilded swan]

you have someone trying to stop you from finishing the game

[manic torrent]

so you want to have your name in the papers? Even if it's for fathering a shitload of children to a heap of different mother and being a crazy asshole?

[gilded swan]

like a weight on your leg

[graceful burrow]

The game.

[gilded swan]

yes.

extended metaphor, its a good example

[fluid ridge]

no i am saying people care about musk

people care about what he does, what he says

[manic torrent]

I mean, only in the general sense of interest. Like a car crash.

[gilded swan]

im gonna go guys..... cya

[fluid ridge]

he is definitely not the most virtuous person on earth lol

[short copper]

cya

[fluid ridge]

that man can make one tweet and change stock and crypto prices overnight

[manic torrent]

So basically you want to be rich so that other idiot sichophants like yourself will worship the ground you walk on, with no actual basis.

[fluid ridge]

🗿

[fluid ridge]

if this is the takeaway you got from this conversation, so be it i guess

[unborn flare]

Seems so /s

[manic torrent]

You don't want to experience things, or achieve better things for people, or build meaningful relationships

[fluid ridge]

you mentioned earlier that you had a very lucrative job too - "rules for thee, not for me"?

[tawdry musk]

I used to let my girlfriend have access to all my money
My girlfriend was unemployed and receiving support
Support services decided on her behalf that I was a burden -- this sort of stuff is why money can make you lonely

[graceful burrow]

I want to become the number 1 jamiroquai enjoyer

[short copper]

having a lucrative job and having your entire life and future be based around seeing how much wealth you can accumulate are not the same thing

[manic torrent]

dude, I am not even CLOSE to rich. I make good money, I live well enough, I am happy.

[fluid ridge]

you are a great partner then

[graceful burrow]

I start my journey today

[short copper]

you should listen to their 2nd album and Automaton

[fluid ridge]

okay, well when you say lucrative i assumed you would be near the threshold of rich

[short copper]

both pretty good

[graceful burrow]

Will

Ty :)

[short copper]

np

[manic torrent]

I make 182,000 AUD per year total. I don't have assets worth much.

[unborn flare]

Lucrative is having money to buy anything that you need but ofc with a calculation

[tawdry musk]

We just found out, that's all

[unborn flare]

The key word is need

[fluid ridge]

ah

[manic torrent]

Plenty of money to live and be comfortable for myself and my wife and son, but not rich. I mean, don't get me wrong if I was sitting on a million dollar house and 500k in the bank - yes, I would be rich.

[fluid ridge]

dont you want to sit in a million dollar house with 500k in the bank

[manic torrent]

that said - that puts me in the 95th percentile for earnings.

[short copper]

I think a lot of people would like that, but theres a difference between like and want

[manic torrent]

all houses are 1m+ in australia.

[graceful sonnet]

what's up with Linus's voice in today's techlinked?

[manic torrent]

too much throat action

[fluid ridge]

same in vancouver canada lol

[tawdry musk]

You earn enough to keep your family and avoid all the assessments

[fluid ridge]

the house im sending this message from was 1.3 million CAD

[gilded swan]

bros really been using the gluck gluck 9000

[unborn flare]

Man

[fluid ridge]

and it was built in the 80s

[short copper]

yeah, if i had the opportunity to live in a big house comfortably i probably would take it, but that is unrealistic and im not going to focus on such a ridiculous goal when i can achieve more happiness for myself by doing other thing that give me more fufillment

[manic torrent]

The land we are looking at buying is $400,000. It will cost about the same to build the house.

[unborn flare]

A good 120,000$ a year sir damn

[ripe parcel]

How much land

[manic torrent]

4000m^2, but it's in a rural area.

[ripe parcel]

I'm live in australia and the property I'm looking at is about 300k and it's 120 acres

[manic torrent]

haha, yeah this is in the township of yea. I have no desire AT ALL for 120 acres

[unborn flare]

300k for 120acres?!

[tawdry musk]

I live in Australia, it sucks

[ripe parcel]

Imma get a big shed and buggies, dirt bikes, quads everything

[ripe parcel]

It's a good deal. Other properties that size are more then double

[unborn flare]

Ikr

[ripe parcel]

I love it here

[ripe parcel]

Where are you

[manic torrent]

Where at?

[ripe parcel]

Sort of inland in Queensland

[tawdry musk]

Melbourne.

[ripe parcel]

Nice

[unborn flare]

Nice

[gilded swan]

its wayy better than my birthplace

[ripe parcel]

Also does anyone know the anwser to my problem in pc hardware

[inland spear]

Should I buy a Corsair 4000x rgb or 4000d with 3 extra rgb fans?

[graceful burrow]

Buy a 4000d with zero extra rgb fans

[short copper]

4000d airflow

[inland spear]

Rgb fans = +100 fps

[ornate rain]

what gpu should i pair my i7 12700k cpu with?

[graceful burrow]

It actually takes away cpu cycles to run rgb
Its a small amount sure, and one I'm sure you wouldn't be able to notice at all

But it does actually hurt performance to have rgb

[inland spear]

But rgb looks good so idc

[terse folio]

what to do with these TUF sticker from asus

[graceful burrow]

It doesn't lmao

[graceful burrow]

Forehead

[full fossil]

⠀ ⠀
⠀ 👄
⠀
⠀⠀Be not afraid.

[graceful burrow]

They give those stickers out so you can put them on your forehead

[terse folio]

[graceful burrow]

Shame the hotdog hands emoji are broken

[full fossil]

not on my screen

[terse folio]

what to do with Intel sticker from my CPU box

[graceful burrow]

Forehead

[short copper]

^

[terse folio]

I thought that is for TUF sticker

[short copper]

all stickers go on forehead

[vapid moss]

the stickers aren't that big

[graceful burrow]

I said those stickers meaning just the pack-in stickers you get

[terse folio]

I don't think I have enough real estate

[short copper]

if you run out of forehead shave off all your hair and put them on your head

[graceful burrow]

That's so you can fit many on there

[terse folio]

Oh I don't think so

TUF sticker is big

[graceful burrow]

Barrington do you have a 3d printer

[vapid moss]

yep

[graceful burrow]

Based

[terse folio]

Ok why Intel, and Asus, and apple give us sticker, but nvidia didn't

[graceful burrow]

People who have 3d printers are auto-chads

[manic torrent]

I should fix mine.

[graceful burrow]

[vapid moss]

sd toaster

[graceful burrow]

What printer is it?

[terse folio]

we need 2 address the sticker situation on these PC part

[graceful burrow]

It's been addressed

Forehead

[vapid moss]

ender 3, modded a bit tho

[graceful burrow]

Very nice

[terse folio]

I'm afraid there isn't enough real estate on forehead

[manic torrent]

get more heads

[terse folio]

I'm not an hydra

[west sentinel]

it is used to benchmark the 3d printer but now this guy made it as a SD holder for nothing

[terse folio]

ok what to do with dying RGB Led on keyboard

[west sentinel]

what keyboard is it?

[terse folio]

G512

[west sentinel]

oh wow, Logitech keyboard awful

[manic torrent]

set on fire

[terse folio]

it's a brown keyboard

[manic torrent]

buy new keyboard

[west sentinel]

ITS A BROWN MX CHERRY LOL

[terse folio]

stop making ewaste

[west sentinel]

@terse folio buy the keychron keyboard next time

keyboard enthusiasm entry level keyboard for 100 dollar

[manic torrent]

who doesn't own 7+ keyboards?

[west sentinel]

me

[terse folio]

me only 2

[manic torrent]

I need a qmk rgb kb so I can integrate it with signalrgb

[terse folio]

All I want is keyboard with metal chassy

[manic torrent]

model M. nice big hunk of steel.

[wary summit]

anyone here an electrical engineer

[manic torrent]

No, but I play one on TV

[wary summit]

anyway to steal 5V from this thing?

[west sentinel]

You're going to pay 100 or 200 more for metal case

[wary summit]

no...?

[west sentinel]

Oh, I'm talking about aluminum case

nevermind fuck me, I'm looking at different currencies

so he'll pay 45-70 dollar if he's in US

[manic torrent]

almost certainly. it looks like a boat - is that a navigation system with GPS?

I would expect that the plugs at the front there will have 5V

[blissful nymph]

Galaxy watch 5 is around the corner any opinions on buying the galaxy watch 4

[long briar]

red and black are usually 5v with yellow being 12v, but ALWAYS check with a multimeter

you could splice a wire

[sick magnet]

how is all

[agile jetty]

Dear Lord and Savior Nick Plouffe, I've accidentally shorted my PCB with a soldering gun, please show Me the ways of the keyboard

[sick magnet]

cute

[inland spear]

ASUS ROG Strix B550-F a good board?

[agile jetty]

No

Anything AM4 isn't worth it anymorr

With ryzen 7000 AM5 platform soon

[manic torrent]

htf you do that

[agile jetty]

i sell non hotswap keyboards

and I have to solder each switch to the pcb

[sick magnet]

come on 30k

[agile jetty]

I'll join soon

[full fossil]

turn the lighting off

[agile jetty]

Thank you Savior Plouffe, the keyboard works.

[lethal copper]

Is that floatplane?

[full fossil]

my cheap mass-market keyboard looks so much better with lighting off

[drifting canopy]

Most keyboard do

[full fossil]

same for my G102 mouse so it all matches

[fossil frost]

the only thing i miss about my old lit up keyboard, is that when im using my new one at night, if i have to glance down at the keyboard for a key i dont usually use, i cant see the keys now

but, thats rare, because ive been typing on a keyboard for about 25 years now, and muscle memory is quite set in at this point

[wary summit]

it's the ESC for an electric scooter

[wary summit]

then why TF is the charger 42v

[sick magnet]

ya

[fossil frost]

use a multimeter, there will be 5v coming from one of those lines

[lethal copper]

Cool! I would subscribe but they don’t have Mir payment so I can’t

[wary summit]

don't have one

[fossil frost]

because the battery is 42v, but not everything on the board is capable of using 42v. the motor will likely be the only thing that is 42v, everything else will be between 1 and 5v

[wary summit]

is Paypal available lmao or they block everything

[wary summit]

so could I split that to a micro USB cable

[fossil frost]

if you knew which particular one was a 5v line, then yes. but, without a multimeter, there is no way of knowing

[full fossil]

I think PayPal just pulled out

[wary summit]

this thing, could I yoink 5v

[lethal copper]

The west blocks that as well

[full fossil]

Fuck
I had an rx6700xt for ⅘ the msrp and an i7 12700k for half of msrp and the got pulled down from olx the same day...

[manic torrent]

that doesn't mean much.

[fossil frost]

again, its possible, but, not without a multi meter and knowing exactly which of the lines are 5v, because any of those lines could be any voltage, and the only way to know, is to measure it

[manic torrent]

e-scooter is just a ride on wired rc car.

[full fossil]

Anyone else got a dent in their pinky finger where they balance their phone?

[manic torrent]

not currently, but I have had one

[native eagle]

What do you think of this build? The games played on it will be mostly cpu intensive and I wanna stay below 1500 $ https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ypbLd9

[agile jetty]

@native eagle ssd, go 970 evo

And the 4000D already has 2 pre case fans

They're ok

[native eagle]

Ok thanks

[agile jetty]

Go with a 6700XT, ye about 150 more but better

Even cpu intense it should be better

[full fossil]

what's a good ssd for a laptop? priority: volume

[native eagle]

Ok

[native eagle]

But I thought 3 intake and one at the back

[agile jetty]

M.2 space is all the same. 970 Evo

[agile jetty]

Yes.
3 intake front 1 exhaust back and if you use an AIO to have exhaust top

[full fossil]

like, it won't draw too much power

[agile jetty]

Also, if you want to make sure a fan is exhaust. The logo should be pointing inward to the cpu cpoler

[agile jetty]

15 watts bro

[full fossil]

will fit, yk

[full fossil]

ok

[manic torrent]

rocket 8tb

[agile jetty]

Still. Go 6700XT. And MAYBE just MAYBE
Corsair SPEC DELTA RGB is a gud case
4 fans, 3 intake 1 exhaust egb

[agile jetty]

No, Teamgroup 15 tb ssd

It is SATA but ey 15 terabytes

[full fossil]

no, I need something cheap in its class

[manic torrent]

This is the problem when people say they want the "most X"

they usually don't mean it

[agile jetty]

Then get the SN570

[manic torrent]

then you're looking at 1 maybe 2 tb

[agile jetty]

Really, for an ssd I go 1tb ssd and like a 4TB HDD

[manic torrent]

I have a 1tb and a 2tb ssd in my desktop

[agile jetty]

170 Usd for 5 TERABYTES BRO

But this is for a desktop

[full fossil]

yes, a cheap (for its class) 1tb SSD

[agile jetty]

1 sec

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-blue-sn570-nvme-ssd?ef_id=CjwKCAjwlqOXBhBqEiwA-hhitNtN9ZfLCo0ASV6xcIjgXUQltm_ZkmbPthBskNZ31k2bbgv3AVoGpBoCuAwQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!15012!3!!!!x!!!17824513874!&utm_medium=pdsh2&utm_source=gads&utm_campaign=WD-NA-US-PLA&utm_content=&utm_term=WDS100T3B0C#WDS100T3B0C

[full fossil]

#tech-chat-1 sent something I found

[native eagle]

Yeah but if the case comes with only two fans I wanna buy two more to have 3 intake and one exhaust right?

[agile jetty]

No then you'll need 4 more fans

If you're gonna add two. Just replace the pre-built ones

[native eagle]

Why not use the pre built ones

[agile jetty]

Also use Lian Li fans cause they slide in and only install one

Cuz they're actual dog shit

[native eagle]

Wdym only install one

[agile jetty]

Do you are have live under rock

Lian Li fans can slot into one another

You only have to install 4 screws aka 1 fan and you're done

[native eagle]

Oh

Nice

[agile jetty]

Tho

I would get a Z590 or z690

More fan headers

No need to use a splitter

[native eagle]

Wait you can use z590 boards for alder lake?

[agile jetty]

Ohh ur using alder lake

If you want CPU intensive stuff just wait for AM5 and ryzen 5 7600X
Along to nvidia 4070

[amber shuttle]

No, but you can use Z690s for alder lake and raptor lake

[wary summit]

whats this

[graceful burrow]

A speed test

[slim yacht]

hot take : potato fries are the best

[wary summit]

clearly not

[graceful burrow]

It is a speed test look it up kek

It's open source and everything

https://github.com/librespeed/speedtest-cli

[wary summit]

why does it do that every boot

[graceful burrow]

Idk man I didn't set your pc up

Salad.bowl.service.exe is a miner

[slim yacht]

interesting choice of name tbh

[wary summit]

ik, i use that to get nitro

[manic torrent]

I use this one neat trick to get nitro, you won't believe it!

[wary summit]

hold a gun to insert name and demand his credit card

[manic torrent]

I just... Paid for it myself.

[wind pulsar]

GET NITRO FOR FREE! Except it isn't free. Wait whaaaat?

[wary summit]

I used to have nitro supouter on my old acc, too bad it got hacked

[mortal lodge]

hello

[upbeat ridge]

This power plug is cursed, wtf

(Normally we have 220-240V coming out of those sockets)

[mortal lodge]

wtf

[upbeat ridge]

Also should say, this is on a moving (electric) train

[mortal lodge]

pls dont be german

[upbeat ridge]

I’m Dutch, this was in the Netherlands but on a German train

[mortal lodge]

hello from germany xD

[upbeat ridge]

👋🏻

[manic torrent]

160v at 15hz? What the actual fuck

[slim yacht]

tfw polarity is weird somewhere in the world and it works

[upbeat ridge]

Yeah but normally we have 230V 50hz

[full fossil]

hi

[full fossil]

250v?!

[upbeat ridge]

Well 220-240V is the usual in Europe

[full fossil]

The average of these 2, 230v is the norm

And im confused, since where did you find 250v?

where to buy cool double helix reservoir

[upbeat ridge]

In the Intercity train Amsterdam-Berlin

That bad boi

[full fossil]

Ok, just whyyyyy

Everything will fry on 250v

[upbeat ridge]

That’s why it’s also 160V
||/s||

Oh apparently it’s just unfiltered power straight from the overhead only converted once from either 1.5kV DC or 15kV AC

[oblique pine]

can i play fivem with rx 460 2gb and ryzen 3 2200g 1080p low

[zinc brook]

nice train

its rare to have something like that in the uk now

most trains beween cities are just 80xs now

well i cant send pics but just google class 800

[calm totem]

Maybe, I mean you could try, but it will probably run pretty slow, just as slow as my laptop (i5-7200U//GT920MX//12GB RAM) does when trying to run Watch_Dogs on lowest

[upbeat ridge]

Yeah I’ve been in the UK

[zinc brook]

col

[upbeat ridge]

That’s also one of two services with a separate locomotive in front on the Dutch passenger network

[zinc brook]

i have a wayy larger liking to european trains than uk trains

u guys have double decker trains ffs

out of all metros paris metro is one of my favs

[oblique pine]

how many fps will i have

i can also do trade

ryzen 3 2200g vega 8 for rx 470 4gb and i5 2400

trade or add gpu to my current build?

[carmine merlin]

I haven't seen a train in 5 years

I have rode 2 (MTR in Hong Kong and MRT in Singapore)

and maybe 1 more if the large railway project that links up 3 major cities gets completed

[zinc brook]

oh

[upbeat ridge]

haha i was in the train museum in the netherlands yesterday where they have the first double decker of the country

[full fossil]

damn

tried AMD Virtual Super Resolution

set my system resolution to 4k

feels like 140 degrees FOV

everything is so small

[upbeat ridge]

well it is indeed a german train person who just pinged me, but pulled by a dutch locomotive

[unborn flare]

Kapibara coconut doggy

[honest steeple]

legendary cpu bro

i'd go with the rx 470 with the 2400.. surely you could get a better cpu though, right? 4th to 6th gen i5s are cheap afaik

[unborn flare]

Why tf can he buy a 2200g but not a i5 6-7th gen they basically the same price old

[dense oxide]

uhh can someone help me with my phone

i think it have virus but i cant find it

like my cpu is up to 71% when there nothing running

[full fossil]

Whats the model cuz it may be just the age of the phone

[short copper]

cant help you with that but nice pfp

[dense oxide]

couple of months and poco x3 pro

i factory reset and it didnt help

[full fossil]

Factory resets are not like reinstalations

[carmine merlin]

To my knowledge of phones, Typically cheap phones from Poco, Xiaomi, Realme, and even Samsung have been bloated with bloatware. Try deleting those first

[full fossil]

Try to just reinstall android all together

[dense oxide]

wdym

[dense oxide]

i checked in app it say i have 320 apps when i just factory reset phone

it say 290 of it is pre installed

[full fossil]

Well, true, even mid range samsungs have bloat, i needed to delete facebook 2 times now, cuz i updated to android 12 and it comes with fucking facebook

[dense oxide]

how is there 290 apps- like installed

myb it vurus

[mortal lodge]

1.5kV DC would need my phone

[keen relic]

hey guys, is it me or linustechtips.com is down?

[upbeat ridge]

works for me

[mortal lodge]

for me too

[unkempt otter]

system. apps come preinstalled

[upbeat ridge]

ultra fast charging

[dense oxide]

But 290 apps is normal?

[mortal lodge]

oh yeah

893% in 1 sec

[upbeat ridge]

(its for vacuum cleaners which really dont care much about voltage swings)

[keen relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004013605697626142/1004013621073952798/unknown.png

[unkempt otter]

can u show a screenshot?

[upbeat ridge]

have you tried other sites?

[manic torrent]

"apps" on Android are a lot of different things.

The main deal is that you can release them separately and have different teams and codebases for them

[keen relic]

everything works correctly... just linustechtips doesnt

[upbeat ridge]

hmm weird

[manic torrent]

So it makes sense to have a service for the camera and a service for the whatever

[keen relic]

any idea what might be the issue? 😮

[upbeat ridge]

firewall?

[manic torrent]

Restart

[upbeat ridge]

delete cookies and website history for linustechtips.com

[keen relic]

nah... i tried dofferent pcs and phones

[upbeat ridge]

on the same network or different networks?

[keen relic]

on same network

[upbeat ridge]

try using 4/5G and see if it works on that

[keen relic]

that works... strange, does it mean cloudflare is blocking my ip? 😮

[upbeat ridge]

could be

[thick thicket]

morning

[upbeat ridge]

could also be that your firewall is acting up and blocking that

[keen relic]

lol.... i know why

i tried incognito without any extensions.. and it works 😄 site doesnt work while i have adblocker on, O_o waaat

[upbeat ridge]

hmm, i have ublock origin and it works

[keen relic]

well mystery kinda solved, it might be other extension tho... will find out, but my bet was on adblocker at first

[carmine merlin]

what happens if you try to end all tasks in task manager

[full fossil]

You just end os backround tasks like sending your data to microsoft and it crashes because of it

[carmine merlin]

"finally my cpu usage is now below 20%" -my old laptop

[glacial basin]

on the school laptops moving the mouse causes it to use 20% of the cpu

[full fossil]

I moved from windows to Linux mint and adjusting to compiling things from source because few binaries that are updated in the repository

[unborn flare]

What repository are you talking about tho

[full fossil]

The repo that comes with my distro

[unborn flare]

Sister distro yes

[unborn flare]

Which distro

[full fossil]

I use swipe to type. Linux mint 21

[unborn flare]

There are other resposititeries too

The community ones

[zinc brook]

col

london transport museum just shows modern buses and old trains/horse wagons

atleast u can go unlimited times for a year

its a nice place

and the store there is very nice

[full fossil]

Ya I added those but it's just fun to compile it, it's actually easier to compile things because

[zinc brook]

(although super overpriced)

[full fossil]

Linus should go to Lego Land

[upbeat ridge]

Ooh yeah it is, I really ought to go back there just for the shop

[zinc brook]

you deffo should

[zinc brook]

are there more legolands or just the london one

[full fossil]

Lego Land NY I went to

Closest to him would be California

[zinc brook]

i dont remember much from lego land the time i went

well

i do rememebr there was a big wooden ship

and there were teacups out of lego

i went when i was young

[upbeat ridge]

Yeah London is just 700km away from me

[zinc brook]

lmao

[manic torrent]

London is 17000km from me

[zinc brook]

jesus christ you can buy an old part of the railway for £3000

london is 0km lmao

[oak oasis]

random question anyone here military or ex military?

via i might be getting into a military romance scam and need opion on someonthing

[warm wharf]

uhh, military romance scam? what? 😄

[oak oasis]

google it

[warm wharf]

Maybe just don't send random people gifts

[oak oasis]

well its a person from instagram

[warm wharf]

And that changes what?

[scarlet flame]

Im testing a new moniter

from aoc its got this clear vision thing its kinda weird i think it screws with the sharpness

[night tulip]

video card on the way!!!!

[scarlet flame]

ayyyyy

I had to refund a card cuz it had no hdmi port which was dumb of me not to check even though it did

only dvi

[night tulip]

why not use a dvi to hdmi?

I did that for my 3rd monitor

[scarlet flame]

disgusting I hate pin type connectors

ie vga style

rather have the flexibility to choose between dp and hdmi

and most low end moniters only have hdmi or vga

[night tulip]

sorry meant dpi to hdmi

was excited about gpu coming

[scarlet flame]

epic

what card is it

[night tulip]

XFX Merc 6800xt

[scarlet flame]

nice

[night tulip]

$670

[scarlet flame]

I personally rock a rx 6600 my sibling is gonna rock a rx 470 prolly

nvidia kinda expensive in thailand

finding old low end gpus with 8gb of vram is pretty annoying

[devout tulip]

How do I make it so I get discord notis come up on my phone and pc at same time

[past oyster]

they already do

[devout tulip]

Not for me

They won’t come though on my phone until I turn off my pc or close dc

[warm wharf]

Uhh

Old low end, 8 gb vram? That isn't a thing

8 GB isn't low end now, let alone in something old enough to be considered "old"

[scarlet flame]

not that old

by old I mean 2016 old

[warm wharf]

8 GB VRAM was top of the line in 2016

[scarlet flame]

which is why its cheap in 2022 now

cuz it was made in 2016

[warm wharf]

Actually, not even

6 GB was top of the line then

[scarlet flame]

the 1070 came out in 2016

its still pretty solid and I found one for 142 usd

and it still has a better encoder than AMDs atrocious ones

At least I think it does

[warm wharf]

Ahh, right, 6 GB was 980 TI, thought 10 series was 2017, still wouldn't call those low end though, but I guess their performance might be the equivalent of modern low end

[scarlet flame]

yep

the newer cards are pretty pricey at the 8gb range and everyones buying up the rx 470 and 570 since they mine

pretty good compared to the rx 6600 same hashrate

[warm wharf]

Eh, not seen much market for mining since the value of most of the cryptocurrencies collapsed

[scarlet flame]

well idk markets weird in thailand

[warm wharf]

GTX 1070 is way better for gaming than a RX 570 too though

like 50% better performance

[scarlet flame]

nvidia is jesus here (ie overpriced) compared to amd

found a pretty good deal for it

[warm wharf]

At the performance level of a 1070 I don't think 8 GB VRAM matters though honestly

Like a 1660 TI is 6 GB, and about the same performance of a 1070

[scarlet flame]

its a reference card tho so

[warm wharf]

I'd likely pick a 1660 TI over a 1070 though just because it's newer

likely to have better driver support

[scarlet flame]

thats like 50 dollars more

already wayyy overbudget on the build lol

[warm wharf]

Not sure I'd pay $50 more, but I just meant if they were the same price

I'd go for the lower VRAM option

[scarlet flame]

id pick it as well

[mortal wyvern]

Helloo yall o/

[fossil dirge]

I need to upgrade to an NVIDIA RTX graphics card

[scarlet flame]

do you really

[warm wharf]

RTX is nice, but on the low end it's more about DLSS than RT

[mortal wyvern]

is there no emotes on this server?

[scarlet flame]

I dont use dlss

dont have nvidia card

[zinc brook]

amd is good aswell

[fossil dirge]

Well I haven't bought new games on Steam lately and most of the games I have on my Steam library work fine with my current graphics card which is the GTX 1080 Ti

[zinc brook]

amd tends to be better value

[fossil dirge]

I think of switching to AMD because it's cheaper

[warm wharf]

I mean, most is already a silly statement IMO 😄

every game ever made works fine with a 1080 TI

There's no game that doesn't

[scarlet flame]

amds ray tracing on the rx 6600 is mediocre but I dont know if the rx 6600 has better radeon rays

[warm wharf]

You can still run every game ever made on a GTX 970 or 1060

[fossil dirge]

That makes sense

So games can still run on older graphics card

[scarlet flame]

lol the gtx 1080 is still pretty good

[warm wharf]

Though, obviously not saying the 1060 plays every game at 4K max settings, etc.

[fossil dirge]

I do need to upgrade my Intel processor so I can run Windows 11

[warm wharf]

but it'll still play modern games

[fossil dirge]

Is Windows 11 worth upgrading

[scarlet flame]

you cant drag and drop on the taskbar

[warm wharf]

Eh, it's fine, I've been using it since the first leaked build meant for devs, but I don't think it's a mandatory upgrade by any means

Unless you're using Intel 12th gen

Don't do that with windows 10

[fossil dirge]

That's good to hear that games still runs on an older graphics card like a GTX 1080 Ti

[warm wharf]

Since W11 has a massively superior task scheduler for the newer BIG.little cpu's

[scarlet flame]

lol the 1080 ti still beats alot of the modern low to medium end cards in timespy

[warm wharf]

Yeah, I've got 3 laptops that are from the past few years, 1080 TI is more powerful than one of them, on par with the other, only really loses to the one I'm using right now

1660 TI, clearly loses to 1080 TI

2070 super, is pretty similar, still loses though I think

[scarlet flame]

is it a mobile one?

[warm wharf]

What I'm using right now though has a 3080 mobile, which does beat a 1080 TI

[fossil dirge]

So Windows 11 is not a mandatory upgrade it's just optional to run the OS

Windows 10 still is going good

[warm wharf]

Fairly sure the 2070 super is between a 1080 and 1080 TI

[full fossil]

w11 is mainly a face lift

[fossil dirge]

Since Windows 10 ends support on 2025

[scarlet flame]

my card is equvalent to the rtx 3050 ti and 3060

[warm wharf]

I don't hate W11, I just also don't see it as a massive upgrade, it's fine

[full fossil]

not much to desire if you’re perfectly working fine w/ w10

[fossil dirge]

Oh I see

[scarlet flame]

w11 is more sleeker but they removed some features I find really stupid you cant drag and drop files from file explorer to taskbar icons for them to open up and you choose the drag location

[fossil dirge]

So the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is still a good graphics card for doing gaming

[warm wharf]

I think currently CP2077 is still the most demanding game on PC

and it lists a 970 as its requirement

[scarlet flame]

you have to open the app first then have file explorer downsized so it appears on top of the app then drag it in

its really stupid

[warm wharf]

Watchdogs Legion says GTX 970 too

Obviously depends on monitor resolution though

[fossil dirge]

Wow so Windows 11 removed features like you can't no longer drag and drop files on your taskbar

[warm wharf]

If you don't have a 1080P display then more gpu performance is obviously a bigger concern

[scarlet flame]

yeah its friggin stupid

they said they would add it back but its not back

[warm wharf]

I never really did it anyway, so doesn't bother me personally, but I still don't see the need to remove it either

same as I never wanted taskbar on the side or tip of my display

but I still think it's dumb that W11 won't let you do so

[full fossil]

you can do it, you just shouldn’t need to edit registry values to do it

[scarlet flame]

w11 is more like microsofts attempt at pushing out a new windows version for the need of a update but not neccesary

[fossil dirge]

The only way Microsoft would add it back is if people demand to bring it back by providing feedback but if Microsoft gets more demand to add that feature back

[scarlet flame]

I loved windows 10 I had my taskbar on the top

[fossil dirge]

Most upgrades that Microsoft does to Windows 11 is not finished

[scarlet flame]

was great but thats a bit ruined now

its dogwater on w11

[fossil dirge]

I don't know why Microsoft would get rid of that feature

[empty ocean]

So the rock band Muse will be releasing their next album as an NFT

[scarlet flame]

w11 is pushed in retail so if it wasnt finished but properly they shouldn't have pushed it into it when it seemed more of a beta

imo nfts are dead

[empty ocean]

I hope so

[scarlet flame]

they've finally died im pretty sure

[full fossil]

bless internet trends

[fossil dirge]

Well Windows 11 was rushed to the market I think Microsoft wanted people to try their product and give feedback so they can improve the OS so I'm guessing that Microsoft wanted people to test the OS

[fossil dirge]

Which rock band is releasing their next album as an NFT

[empty ocean]

Sorry I'm an idiot, Muse

[fossil dirge]

Wow

Why they would release the album as an NFT

Aren't NFTs scam

[empty ocean]

They said they're doing traditional formats to but it'll be available as an NFT as well

I mean how does an album work as an NFT?

[pure remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/running-away-genitals-dildo-pink-dildo-gif-14469419

[fossil dirge]

I don't know how they can make their album an NFT but it sounds suspicious

[full fossil]

stfu

[lucid echo]

Kings of Leon did this. You're purchasing a chunk of code that includes a URL for the album (bandcamp or something similar). That's about it. That URL is accessible for everyone and they'll more than likely be releasing the album regularly too.

It's a cash grab. Odds are the band members didn't even think of doing this themselves.

[lucid echo]

https://giphy.com/gifs/make-it-rain-get-paid-LdOyjZ7io5Msw

[fossil dirge]

Yeah I can tell it's money

[full fossil]

Which is the source trusted for windows 7 iso nowadays?

[lucid echo]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

There is no trusted source because Win7 is not trusted anymore

[full fossil]

I want to use one as my virtual machine that is why I am looking for the last original iso.

[full fossil]

nfts are just tokens linked to something

remember when you buy a physical cartridge and were allowed to resell or rent it as long as you had the reciept, thats what an nft emulates

[thin fjord]

i miss those small game resellers at the mall

[lucid echo]

"emulates" is a stretch

[junior tide]

thanks ltt, louis rossmann and buildzoid for teaching me how shit works

[full fossil]

say you buy arcade tokens cheaply, then resell them to others at a profit, well unless the arcade goes bust those tokens are worth something

once the arcade shuts down those tokens are worthless

token = no monetary value

[lucid echo]

You don't need the receipt to resell that cartridge tho

[junior tide]

i was able to fix a blown subwoofer unit thingy man i feel good about myself

[full fossil]

how do you prove you didnt steal it

[lucid echo]

Doesn't matter if you stole it - You could steal the receipt to. You have it in your hands, someone else wants it in their hands. You sell it.

[thin fjord]

doesnt matter where it came from, if the cartridge works then it’s worst something

[junior tide]

"who the flip would steal these man, now come on"

[full fossil]

im talking about boosting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booster_bag

[lucid echo]

Okay? I've sold lots of cartidges/discs in my life and never once did someone want a receipt. They just wanted to know if it works

Buying/selling something with a certificate of authenticity is a better analogy, but even then its still a HUGE stretch

[unborn flare]

But fr a coconut doggy 😭

[full fossil]

yea you cant technically steal intellectual property because its intangible

[unborn flare]

Get it from getintopc.com I'd say you should download the latest iso

[lucid echo]

I'm talking art/baseball cards/autographs with certs of authenticity

[unborn flare]

Not the safest but again you are running it off a VM so you are in charge of the network activity

[full fossil]

baseball cards are physical nfts

[lucid echo]

Even then, still a shit analogy for NFTs

[unborn flare]

So are rare stamps

[lucid echo]

You can mint as many duplicate NFTs as you want, can't do that with a baseball card.
Baseball cards don't give you viruses or break when the poorly-written minted code is compromised
Baseball cards don't have a complicated legal grey area once the card has been sold more than once

[full fossil]

i was thinking of reverse nfts where the token is embedded in the digital file, such that after time the program would no longer work like drm,

[lucid echo]

token is embedded in the digital file
This is not at all how NFTs work

Not even a little bit

[unborn flare]

Yea but then again the chance of a baseball Card being very valuable is nearly equal or more than a nft being really valuable

[full fossil]

try minting dollar bill nfts and see if thats legal

[lucid echo]

It's completely legal because they would be meaningless
It would be a block of javascript with some functions that refer to a URL of a dollar bill jpeg

And odds are that jpeg would soon die of link rot

[full fossil]

yea you'd have to copy the jpeg then sell both the jpeg and the token

[unborn flare]

Or better it can be a render image of a dollar bill with all the security features instated and a unique no. To make it different from the rest

[rancid cargo]

can someone help me someone hacked my steam account?

[lucid echo]

The jpeg and token are barely linked. You can buy/steal the token without ever seeing or downloading the image. It's just a block of code that refers to a URL.

[lucid echo]

Contact steam support, nothing we can do

[full fossil]

buy and selling steam accounts by way of nfts would sound silly

a steam account nft bwahaha

[lucid echo]

Buying and selling anything by way of NFTs is silly

It's fundamentally flawed

[unborn flare]

I mean they still sell without nfts so i don't think ppl would be interested in nft sale

[full fossil]

i think companies would allow nfts because it destroys the used game market, no first sale doctrine

[unborn flare]

And yet we see ppl hyping the living crap out of them and buying and hoarding them

[unborn flare]

How will it destroy used game market tho

[full fossil]

because you would need permission from the company to resell or rent or distribute your game

[lucid echo]

Even if they didn't care about that, it offers nothing of value to reselling games. Steam or whoever would still be the gatekeeper as to whether you can access the game, defeating the point of decentralizing the sale. Might as well use the same trading platform that CSGO has used for a decade+

[full fossil]

nfts were here before nfts were even invented, i mean google docs are nfts because the link is shared but the file is hosted on a google serber

[unborn flare]

I don't see that happening lol there are laws to prevent this kind of anti consumer behaviour if I bought a copy of the game it's mine I can do whatever I want with it virtually as long as i don't steal their work

[lucid echo]

If you completely change the definition of NFT than yeah basically everything is one

[fossil frost]

you didnt buy a copy of the game, you bought a licence that allows you to play the game

[lucid echo]

There's a great LegalEagle video as to why reselling NFTs would not be legally binding for most use cases. Contract law is complicated and those who designed how NFTs work did not consider it at all.

[full fossil]

When an NFT is resold, the seller is not protected by the first sale doctrine.

[lucid echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6aeL83z_9Y

[full fossil]

my token is worth more than your token

yea i had the feeling this would legitimize selling of steam accounts

[lucid echo]

Last I checked, Google doc URLs are not minted on the blockchain

[lucid echo]

It will not

[warm wharf]

Oh, so as long as I don't touch money while I empty your bank account it's not actual theft, got it

[full fossil]

my bank account is not my account its the banks, im just insured

[warm wharf]

That has nothing to do with how stupid your stance is.

[lucid echo]

They're saying that they can steal intellectual property just by.... using it without your permission

[full fossil]

but thats not theft, its unauthorized use, like fair use

[warm wharf]

fair use is authorized use

not unauthorized, that's the complete opposite

[lucid echo]

https://www.ncpc.org/resources/ip-theft/

Your own personal definitions of words don't really apply here

[unborn flare]

Ik that but unless the EULA specifically prohibits the resale of the game selling used game DVDs and cartridges is completely legal

[full fossil]

The First Sale Doctrine trumps the EULA when it comes to physical media

[warm wharf]

I don't there even is a 3050 TI

Fairly sure that's only a mobile sku?

[hearty spear]

not especially

at 350? Get a 6600XT

6600XT will be waaaaay faster

[full fossil]

why cant they make more GPUs

[thin fjord]

silicon shortage

[hearty spear]

in what sense? There's no more shortage

[fossil frost]

they can, but they wont, because an oversupply leads to devaluation

you keep your premium products premium, by keeping them scarce

[full fossil]

why cant hobbyists make their own GPUs?

[hearty spear]

GPUs are available at all major retailers any day of the week, you're no longer hunting to find them.

[warm wharf]

Cheapest 3050 at microcenter is $329, cheapest 6600 XT is $359

[warm wharf]

I mean, you "can", but good luck doing so.

[hearty spear]

and the 6600XT is faster than a 3060, let alone a 3050

[warm wharf]

It requires a shit ton of expertise

[iron plinth]

Hi. Where can I ask help for my build?

[hearty spear]

How are your BGA flowing skills?

[iron plinth]

Hi. Where can I ask help for my build?

[full fossil]

3d print a gpu

[hearty spear]

#build-a-pc

or #tech-support if there are problems that need fixing

[iron plinth]

Thanks

[unborn flare]

You can you just need a fab contract to make you your GPUs and good luck paying for the architecture development or you can always use arm to make you a tailored GPU

[hearty spear]

sure, 3d print a silicon circuit. that'll work well.

12100 is a stupid good CPU for the price

[warm wharf]

6600 XT is 54% more powerful than a 3050 on average, and less than 10% more expensive

[hearty spear]

Stock is fine for that. Noctua is hella overpriced.

[unborn flare]

Yes but if you do anything except gaming and need performance for other tasks you need something better

[warm wharf]

Eh

[full fossil]

be careful what you buy and dont buy from scalpers they may be reported stolen and bricked

[warm wharf]

Very few people "need" more than a 12100F

[unborn flare]

Well i did mention if he needs more performance

[warm wharf]

A i3-12100F is better than a i7-8700K in most scenarios

[full fossil]

I got a NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] its 6 years old and should be due for an upgrade

[warm wharf]

8700K is about 5% faster multi-core

12100F is 37% faster single-core

[full fossil]

always stock up on PSUs and HDD

[warm wharf]

I'm not saying higher end cpu's aren't better ofc, but 12100F is honestly a decent cpu, and good enough for most users

[full fossil]

i got 5 PSUs and 10 HDDs

get yourself an ssd

[warm wharf]

On a super tight budget I'd go small SSD + larger HDD, on a reasonable budget I'd go pure SSD

[full fossil]

i dont want to get an ssd because if it dies i cant recover anything on it

is it fast?

[icy osprey]

Meanwhile I'm chillin' with my i7-6700HQ

[full fossil]

i just need an ssd for my laptop

[warm wharf]

SSD's dying isn't particularly common

[full fossil]

I got a 2x1TB hard drives

[warm wharf]

ehhhh

I'd have went for slower and tried to get more capacity rather than focus on speed personally

[full fossil]

CD/DVD roms are outdated these days

what about blu-ray drive

[warm wharf]

Aren't there probably 1 TB drives that aren't too much over $54?

I see a $64.99 1 TB drive

It is SATA though, not M.2

$74.99 for cheapest M.2 I see

[fluid ridge]

12600k is the sweet spot

[warm wharf]

I paid $180 each for the SSD's in my laptop

got 2 of them, each 2 TB

[fluid ridge]

no gaming difference from a 12900k

[unborn flare]

Yea so for example if you need more threads you'll suffer performance hits on more multi threaded workloads

[icy osprey]

Wasn't the WD Blue SN57 1TB the best bang for the buck M2?

[fluid ridge]

you say this till you lose all ur data

[warm wharf]

I bought Inland, Microcenter's house brand

[fluid ridge]

bruh

[full fossil]

same, my focus is volume, I don't play new AAA games much

[warm wharf]

I play plenty of AAA games, super fast SSD's don't really benefit them though

SSD's benefit them when compared to HDD's

but not super fast SSD's vs slower SSD's

Loading times somewhat, though in a lot of modern games it's more the streaming as you travel, yeah

like games that read from disc as you walk around

and load the area around you, you get stutter with a HDD

[dreamy otter]

woah

[warm wharf]

but even slow-ish SSD's are fast enough to prevent it

[dreamy otter]

We opened our fridge nearly 20k times last year...

[full fossil]

you can even get 1 or 2 fps boost if you're using an SSD

+overall comfort

how much do you spend on computer related stuff every year, like budgeted like 500 a year and replace PC every 4 years?

[warm wharf]

My SSD's are fairly fast, but I honestly bought them because they were cheap

[full fossil]

does a cpu come with thermal paste in the box?

[lucid echo]

No, but your cooler does

[unborn flare]

No a cooler comes with thermal paste

[full fossil]

but if I use a stock cooler?

[full fossil]

guess it should

[unborn flare]

Coconut doggy

[lucid echo]

No cooler is gonna fuck you over unless you buy it used

[full fossil]

SHUT UP

[full fossil]

but the stock cooler comes with the cpu no?

[full fossil]

sometimes it does

[warm wharf]

Read Speed Up to 3,400MBps Write Speed Up to 3,000MBps

[full fossil]

if you're buying another cooling system - buy an OEM cpu

[warm wharf]

That's the advertised speeds of my SSD's

but they were among the cheapest 2 TB drives on the market

didn't buy them for their speed

[warm wharf]

Oh, cool, then I'm going to buy one for $3 on wish

I'm kidding. 😄

I'm sure you can buy some craptastic knockoff air coolers too

but yeah less harmful than leaking liquid all over

[unborn flare]

Most of the water coolers have pre applied thermal paste so all coolers ig

[lucid echo]

All of them come with paste pre-applied or a tube

air or water

[warm wharf]

you mean all of them from reputable companies

[lucid echo]

I've never in my life seen a new-in-box cooler not have some sort of thermal paste

[full fossil]

yes

comes in a plastic case

[unborn flare]

[All of them]-[wish crap]

[warm wharf]

I bet I can find something on wish or alibaba that will say it's a cpu cooler that you plug into a usb port or something

[full fossil]

just the cpu

[warm wharf]

😄

[lucid echo]

I'm talking specifically about fucking you over by not providing paste, not referring to anything else

[unborn flare]

Plug into a usb 3 port for high speed cooling

[full fossil]

oh

[warm wharf]

I might just be picky, but I'd buy my own paste either way honestly

[full fossil]

those little USB ACs

[warm wharf]

I'd much rather use something like kryonaut, than whatever mystery crap some company decides to preapply

though krynonaut on a 12100F is admittedly uhh

not exactly a necessity 😄

[full fossil]

what's a good cheap build

[unborn flare]

Well if you buy from industry standard brands there is a very little chance of you not getting ideal performance on pre applied thermal paste

[full fossil]

focus: upgradability

In euros? 500 dollars and below

[warm wharf]

Eh, I doubt most of them use really good thermal compounds

Like even on $3,000+ laptops, you can often reduce temps by repasting them immediately

[full fossil]

I mostly play online games

[unborn flare]

Most of them use the same thermal compound from the same supplier

[warm wharf]

They're using whatever is cheap

not whatever gets the best results

[full fossil]

1080p

[thorn fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ub_00renA4

[lucid echo]

You're gonna get a lot more help if you spec out your own machine on PCPartPicker then post it on #build-a-pc asking for input

[full fossil]

ok

[warm wharf]

But unless you're overclocking, it's not likely to be a concern whether the paste is "good" or "merely adequate"

[full fossil]

thx

[warm wharf]

Yeah, that's a huge temperature drop.

[lucid echo]

People are more willing to correct your bad choices than offer you fresh ones

[thorn fossil]

2018 so something may have changed, but I doubt it

[vapid smelt]

What's cheap $1500?

[lucid echo]

Is that the video where they reused dry TIM as IHS paste?

[unborn flare]

You'll likely max out your cooler's cooling capacity using the pre applied thermal compound

So the gains will be marginal

[full fossil]

should I buy a used cpu from ebay?

[thorn fossil]

Yup

[unborn flare]

And the laptop scene is very different as the OEM that manufactures laptops doesn't usually manufacture discrete coolers so they stick up some cheap stuff

[lucid echo]

I would be much more interested in comparing the paste against fresh-from-the-factory Intel paste rather than the dry ass already-applied paste

[warm wharf]

Good paste vs bad paste makes a big difference in laptops or desktops.

[thorn fossil]

There are some concerns about the method in comments, true

[warm wharf]

Admittedly, bad paste is still unlikely to result in thermal throttling when at stock clocks

[thorn fossil]

But IIRC there wasn't a followup video

[warm wharf]

but good paste will let it run cooler

and will allow more OC'ing

Not that you'd overclock a 12100F

[unborn flare]

Not if you reach the maximum cooling capacity of your cooler that's what the pre applied thermal paste ensures

2-3 degrees doesn't matter much for normal worloads

[warm wharf]

maximum cooling capacity is a meaningless buzz word

[warm wharf]

Good thing the example shown in that video was 30 C then

89 C to 60

[unborn flare]

Which video though

[warm wharf]

Linus's

linked right above

[unborn flare]

Oh never knew that intel was an industry standard cooler brand but alright ig

[warm wharf]

Intel and AMD both come with stock coolers, how are they not industry standard?

And the paste isn't any different from other companies

Maximum cooling capacity literally doesn't mean anything. some thermal compounds just transmit heat much better than others, something like liquid metal is always going to perform better

[thorn fossil]

Heres another comparison I found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps2sl_omcGo

Much less difference

[warm wharf]

not huge drops there, no, but still consistently improved

Something like conductonaut would show bigger differences, but, uhh, that's also sketchy to use

since it's liquid metal

[unborn flare]

Bruh theres literally a formula to calculate the cooling capacity of a cooler

[thorn fossil]

That's stock cooler + stock compound and stock cooler + aftermarket compound, so pretty much the best you can do without The Lab™️

[unborn flare]

In this case can we conclude intel just uses really crappy thermal paste?

[thorn fossil]

Could be the reason for difference, yeah

[warm wharf]

Probably, since AMD's performed much more similarly

though whatever AMD used still didn't seem to be a literal best case scenario, but at least within the realm of reasonable results

[unborn flare]

Interesting I'd like to see the temprature difference between aftermarket coolers from the likes of noctua and Corsair @thorn fossil

Are there any vids available?

[thorn fossil]

Literally tons

[thorny helm]

Did I read something wrong or does the LTT backpack cost 250 dollars?

[thorn fossil]

Stock/aftermarket comparisons are much rarer than aftermarket vs aftermarket 😄

[digital pike]

e

[thorn fossil]

249.99

[thorny helm]

Oh god

[digital pike]

Are we allowed to post tech deals?

Ive found a few but idk if im gonna get banned if i post them

[thorn fossil]

yeah it'd better be quality at that price

[thorny helm]

That's.... Really expensive tho

[thorn fossil]

1/4 of average wage where I live 😉

[hearty spear]

#465939774117642251

[digital pike]

oh thanks

[hearty spear]

LLBean has a number of backpacks in the 300-400$ Range, so... it's far from unheard of.

[lucid echo]

My current backpack is $300 and it's got fewer features/QoL improvements

And don't get me started on hiking backpacks...

[vapid smelt]

My backpack is from my older brother it's nearly 20 years old

[thorn fossil]

I've got a Helikon EDC (cordura 500D, ~67USD) that will probably be replaced only because I'm bored, not because it gets damaged

[fluid ridge]

yeah but for youtube merchandise

👀

[warm wharf]

Definitely seems pricy

[lucid echo]

Clearly you've never bought Teddy Fresh

[warm wharf]

The backpacks most people buy are more likely in the $20-$60 range

[latent plank]

Source?

[fluid ridge]

also 80 dollars for a screwdriver

[fluid ridge]

have you never been to walmart 🗿

[warm wharf]

$90 for a hoodie is ridiculous too IMO

[lucid echo]

Again, very comparable to similar ratcheting screws

[warm wharf]

Walmart, Target, etc.

[hearty spear]

and just cuz it's a YT Merch item, doesn't mean it's a not quality item.

[fluid ridge]

i know

[vapid smelt]

Target section on back to school day where they buy a new backpack every year cuz it breaks

[latent plank]

not everyone shops there

[warm wharf]

Most people don't spend $90 on hoodies or $250 on backpacks

[fluid ridge]

ok 90 on hoodies is more reasonable than 250 on backpacks

[lucid echo]

This backpack isn't for most people

[warm wharf]

They're the largest retailers in the nation, they are what most people buy

[vapid smelt]

Buy once cry once

[fluid ridge]

i would say 90 for hoodies is fine

but 250 for a bag 🗿

[lucid echo]

I have multiple backpacks over $250 lmao

[warm wharf]

Most hoodies are like $20-$30, $50 is what I'd consider the top end of reasonable pricing

Like I've spent $50 on hoodies at concerts

[lucid echo]

It's almost like mass production and child labor make things cheaper

[thorny helm]

Oh god why, I just buy a 20 dollars backpack once every 3 years

[hearty spear]

and most people replace those annually

[vapid smelt]

From sweatshops they are

[warm wharf]

Linus's shirts aren't being made by any different of a source

[split kelp]

I'm taking notes.....

[warm wharf]

than the shirts sold elsewhere

[latent plank]

yeah they are

[warm wharf]

He doesn't have employees knitting these by hand

[lucid echo]

Because it lasts a LOT longer than 3 years

[warm wharf]

they're coming from the same mass producers as other shirts

[vapid smelt]

If I recall right they canceled orders from people with bad labor practice

[lucid echo]

He doesn't have children doing it either, that's the difference

[hearty spear]

He's specifically left suppliers because they didn't meet his fair labor standards.

[thorny helm]

It still costs way more than buying a backpack every 3 years ;/

[warm wharf]

$20 every 3 years, or $250, it needs to last 36 years to be better value, not 3

[fluid ridge]

this dude got a closet full of LV bags bru

[thorn fossil]

Pratchett described that brilliantly, lemme google

[hearty spear]

20$ backpacks do not survive 3 years

[warm wharf]

Literally what he just said he buys.

[hearty spear]

the boots!