#Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

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reef isle
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is just so idiiotic

rustic charm
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Russel on pole

trim harbor
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no

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i cant let this happen

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wheres pastry

rustic charm
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Would've preferred Kimi ngl

rustic charm
trim harbor
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norris p3?

rustic charm
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Yep

trim harbor
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wheres verstappen n alonso

rustic charm
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Oh it's awful, at least they're acknowledging it

reef isle
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that's good

rustic charm
trim harbor
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holy shit man p19 ๐Ÿ˜ญ

rustic charm
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That's what Aston Martin feels like

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At least no more nerve damage, I think

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George was very happy to be on pole lol

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Honestly, I think having some electric component is necessary, but I don't think F1 should go full- or majority-electric

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After all

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We have FE

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Even a 50/50 split is too much imo

reef isle
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I see your point, and I think it's fair enough, but I disagree.

rustic charm
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I'd say the turbohybrid V6s weren't bad, they were pretty nice. Maybe not last few years, but that's cause the cars got fat. 2014 when these regs started wasn't bad, 2016 was one of the seasons of all time too

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So like, something along the lines of the previous engines in current cars would work nicely I think

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But again, in a perfect world, with teams having some more freedom

reef isle
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yeah that's fair, certainly reducing the electrical side was incredbily dumb

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i agree that they didn't necessarily need to increase it

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but reducing it was the problem

rustic charm
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Well they didn't reduce it

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They increased the overall electrics side

reef isle
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then it's possble I misunderstood

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didn't they decrease the battery power?

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how much power the battery can provide

rustic charm
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I don't think so

reef isle
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Ok, let me check real quick

rustic charm
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They did make some changes within this year

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I think they reduced the battery power in qualifying trims in order to limit super clipping

reef isle
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I might have misunderstood, but I remember reading or hearing that even though officially they said they wanted to put more emphasis on the electrical side they did something stupid behind the scenes

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I'll see if I can find that again

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it's possible (likely even?) that I misunderstood or am misremembering

rustic charm
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So basically, previous regs were:
1.6 litre V6, in the end with around 600kW of power
Electrical recovery with MGU-K and MGU-H in total around 150kW I think

Current regs:
Still a 1.6 litre V6, but with a power output being reduced to around 400kW
MGU-H removed
MGU-K power output increased to around 350kW

reef isle
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AH yes ๐Ÿ˜„ that was it

rustic charm
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So the total power stayed the same more or less, but whereas before it used to be something along the lines of 80% ICE, 20% electrical, now it is close to 50% ICE, 50% electrical

reef isle
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so, yeah, first removing MGU-H I think was the first dumb idea (as again you're removing a way to constantly charge the battery without needing clip/LICO

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and then the other thing is that I believe they didn't increase the battery size enough to account for the new changes

rustic charm
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Yeah, banning MGU-H was not a good thing for sure

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Yep, the battery is just very small, and that's why we have super clipping

reef isle
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exactly ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic charm
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The cars literally just uncharge before they reach the end of a straight/fast corner

reef isle
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Yep exactly, so yeah while in theory it's 50/50

rustic charm
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By the end of any straight part it's 50/0 XD

reef isle
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Exactly

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hahahah

rustic charm
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Which is especially bad on fast tracks

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Like Suzuka was just not it at all this year

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Baku is gonna suffer

reef isle
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didn't F2 qualify better than some F1 cars in MIA?

rustic charm
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Don't remind me I'm going to cry

reef isle
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that's another big straights battery intesive track IIRC

rustic charm
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Every single F2 driver in miami qualified better than both Aston Martins

reef isle
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oof

rustic charm
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Fernando ain't winning the third this year ๐Ÿ˜ญ

reef isle
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Literally GP2 engine ๐Ÿ˜›

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worse even

rustic charm
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Weaker than a GP2

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So Honda managed to perfect the GP3 engine this year

reef isle
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It took them all these years

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but finally it's here

rustic charm
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This can't be a coincidence that whenever Honda supplies an engine to the team Fernando's driving in, it's just terrible

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Can we just give him the R26

rustic charm
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Anyway F1 talk over, time to fly

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Actually

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I'm glad someone made a texture patch like that

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And I managed to install it for this reg alone too

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Of course the whole me flying a chartered DHL A300 for race weekends will be not quite realistic, they probably use various different charters, not just DHL

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But I decided that since DHL is an official overall F1 partner, why not

trim harbor
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i was gonna say

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dhl the partner anyway

rustic charm
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Would've chosen Aston Martin (cause Fernando's my GOAT) but AMR is actually partnered with Atlas, so them using a DHL charter would be a bit of a betrayal lol

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Ferrari is partnered with UPS, and considering UPS has 300s I could probably get a "Ferrari" reg as well

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Honestly ini might have some issues with their planes, but I like the fact that you can select loads like this

reef isle
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first WASM crash in the sim I think

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as far as I can remember

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had to respawn, reset the FMS and then slew to the right-ish place kekw

rustic charm
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Sad

reef isle
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at least I remembered to clip it so that I could set my fuel to the right level

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right before it died

rustic charm
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The thing is a rocket when light

midnight whale
rustic charm
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And I've landed

narrow kite
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GEORGE RUSSELL WINS THE CANADIAN GRAND PRIX!!

rustic charm
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He does have good chances

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Pole to begin with, and it's one of his good tracks as well

midnight whale
reef isle
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@rustic charm going through it ๐Ÿฅฒ

trim harbor
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for shared cockpit?

rustic charm
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I'm setting up for a 'little' hop in a 738 meanwhile

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Apparently Aeroflot flies them from Novosibirsk to Sanya

reef isle
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just a big Lvar lists

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of all the things that need to be shared kekw

trim harbor
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is there a way for a 3rd person

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so CPT,FO,FE

reef isle
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no idea tbh

rustic charm
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I think there's no limit to how many people join?

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Basically the app tries to sync all controls between all clients

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(All controls that are defined)

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So technically an FE could be possible?

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Probably becomes less stable with more people though

trim harbor
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guys PLEASE i wanna be a fe : (

reef isle
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it's way too mind numbing to do in one session kekw

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just looking for things and copy/pasting them

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it feels like something that could be very easily automated if I was willing to vibe code some slop or actually learn how to do it

trim harbor
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where do u get the refs from anyway

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did ini publish em somewhere?

reef isle
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Behaviors

trim harbor
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oh

reef isle
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you either guess the Lvar name, click the thing and see the number chage

trim harbor
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yikes so u gotta go over each button?

reef isle
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or you press Ctrl+G, and it will tell you

reef isle
trim harbor
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yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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so all the shared cockpit file essentially requires is the name to be in the dcoument

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thats it?

reef isle
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yes

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seems like it at least

trim harbor
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thats actually quite simple i didnt expect that

reef isle
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from the one I downloaded

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I mean

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really, what else does it need to do?

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Just syinc the position, and rotation and sync Lvars

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position and rotation are quite easy to get out of the sim with simconnect I think

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don't want to trivialize what these people have done but...

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It helps that the JF planes are FANTASTIC to work with

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for this stuff

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if this was a PMDG plane I'm not sure I would have been able to do anything

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same for the FSS Ejets

trim harbor
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so its easy work but annoying af to do

reef isle
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yes

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and time consuming

trim harbor
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yeah

rustic charm
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In MSFS I think for now the only planes we have that fly with FEs are the 727 and the Lockheed?

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Plus the DC-6 can apply too, those things used to operate with so many different crew configurations

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United did domestic flights in them with just 2 pilots abd that's it

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BCPA meanwhile I think had 5 or 6 people on them? 2 pilots, an FE, a radio officer, a navigator and maybe someone else, I don't remember

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And everything inbetween is also an option dogelul

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Honestly BCPA was so weird and cool

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Honestly I would even pay some upgrade fee if PMDG made a specific BCPA variant add-on

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Firstly it's the passenger cabin of course

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They were configured as, quote, "Pullman-type sleepers"

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Which in very brief terms means

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They were basically these things, but with wings

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They had full beds in those planes

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Also I am pretty sure that they had a larger cockpit than usual with a bunch of additional instrumentation that would help them overfly 12 hours of nothing but Pacific Ocean

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There aren't many pictures of the cockpit unfortunately, I could only find this one, but I am pretty sure those instruments on the right are some sort of old-school navigation, and I'm pretty sure the PMDG doesn't have them

rustic charm
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I'm flying to Hainan in a 737 for the next 5 hours anyway XD

tardy hedge
rustic charm
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(And in just under 7 hours - and away we go)

tardy hedge
rustic charm
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Oh btw @reef isle, do you know if XP has an An-72/74?

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Fun little plane

reef isle
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Unfortunately not

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It's one of my favourite planes as well ๐Ÿ™

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I'm very sad

rustic charm
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I've not heard it being called a frog yet dogelul

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One I've heard in Russia is Cheburashka

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But yeah, sad

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Who do I need to pay for the sims to get more Soviet/Russian planes

dusty sky
rustic charm
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So you can probably guess why the An-72 & 74 are nicknamed after him XD

rustic charm
reef isle
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Such an interesting and cool design as well

rustic charm
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Yeah

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"So how do we make it able to land safely anywhere"

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@trim harbor btw I just decided to check now, seems like CYUL is expecting variable rain all day, so we might be in for a good Canada this year

trim harbor
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absolute baller

rustic charm
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Ngl I hope it ends up being properly variable rain

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So it's not just a wet race

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But real mixed conditions where strategy comes into play (sorry Charles)

narrow kite
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yk.. after yesterday. ,๐Ÿ˜ญ

rustic charm
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Hopefully

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Hopefully just not Barcelona 2016

narrow kite
rustic charm
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But Kimi did show that he's not going to just give way to George, so this season might turn out to be quite interesting in the end

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If Mercedes keeps the advantage throughout the whole season, the final few races will probably be really tight

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Cause Kimi and George are tbf close

rustic charm
rustic charm
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And I'm on the STAR

trim harbor
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@rustic charm are you READY to RUMBLE

rustic charm
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YES

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I've got my snacks & drinks ready

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Unfortunately not much drinks left

trim harbor
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same sad

rustic charm
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And the stores are closed today

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At least I'm gonna be able to resupply tomorrow

trim harbor
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arent u in the uae

rustic charm
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Nah

trim harbor
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oh

rustic charm
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In the UAE it's 24/7 always

trim harbor
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yeah

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thats why i was thinking

rustic charm
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They stay open even for holidays

trim harbor
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dubai marina my love

rustic charm
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But in the UAE I wouldn't be able to buy alcohol to begin with

trim harbor
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not to be a dubai gooner but marina was defo the best part about the uae

rustic charm
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Not 21 yet

trim harbor
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l o l

rustic charm
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Plus even if I were, would need a separate license since I'm a resident

trim harbor
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what

rustic charm
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I'm in Montenegro rn, here it's bit easier

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Just gotta be 18

rustic charm
# trim harbor what

In muslim countries usually you need to hold a separate card that you show when buying alcohol, I don't think it's difficult to acquire one, but it's basically because the religion overall prohibits drinking

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But that only applies to people living there, tourists don't need one

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Cause well

trim harbor
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even as a resident

rustic charm
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You're a tourist

trim harbor
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thats crazy

rustic charm
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But well, here I can buy whatever I want

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15 minutes

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I like the look of that

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This too

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Half-slick half-inter grid

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I guess we need to move elsewhere for discussions though lol

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3rd formation lap LOL

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Everyone's ditching inters too

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Brocedes v2 continues

rustic charm
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@trim harbor did you like it

trim harbor
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I did however see that kimi won

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So massive W

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Also a suepr goated podium

rustic charm
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Yeah

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Russel was out due to a mechanical issue

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The whole race was full of action

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Also this finishing grid, jesus

rustic charm
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Time for an overnight now

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Huh I never noticed Simbrief can actually give you remarks

rustic charm
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For some reason both on the delivery flight and right now, the EFB gave me some very wrong values for takeoff

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It gave me speeds of 155 V1, 163 Vr and 166 V2

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Which I can tell just by looking at them, for an empty A300 at flaps 15 that's way too high

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Last time they were pretty much the same, and then I wasn't even over 100 tons in gross weight cause it was a very short flight too

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All the other parameters being the same as specified by the EFB too, the plane started rotating around 120-130kts

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Basically, the V speeds given by the EFB can't be trusted

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Anyway, I'm off now

reef isle
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rustic charm
eager python
rustic charm
rustic charm
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Ngl if the GP was today, it would probably be even cooler. But the race was amazing anyway so I'm not complaining

eager python
rustic charm
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Flying with some stuff in the cargo hold this time

dusty sky
rustic charm
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Why should it be AZMQ

dusty sky
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Cux it's the one I saw curseddogesmile

rustic charm
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Fair

dusty sky
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Watched it depart to Milan

rustic charm
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Doesn't exist in MSFS though I think

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I'll fly to Milan too eventually

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Around 3rd September to be specific

dusty sky
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Like I was so surprised to see it man

rustic charm
dusty sky
rustic charm
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Leipzig-Halle

dusty sky
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The may 22nd one was the one I saw take off

rustic charm
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Fair

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For this plane I'm flying the schedule is already decided until December lol

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Anywhere with a 2 or more week gap, there will be an East Midlands inbetween (cause UK-based teams seemingly use EGNX as the airport of choice, and I'm transporting RBR)

dusty sky
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I'm getting curious about the planes I saw

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The 787 is flying to Atlanta (rip)

rustic charm
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Poor people there

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Why would you go to Atlanta

dusty sky
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What are the chances the ATR is doing the same exact flight it did when I saw it fly in

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Well

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No

trim harbor
rustic charm
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Indeed

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It's the base for DHL (EAT)

trim harbor
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i live around it

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w airport

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toobad lufthansa cancelled 50% of their flights from it

rustic charm
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Lufthansa's just doing bad now tbh

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Cityline shut down...

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All thanks to one certain guy

hollow oracle
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Aggressively British

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I really want to fly the Lancaster in MSFS some more

full plank
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arrived at Gatwick, nice little sector for today

rustic charm
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Lights out

rustic charm
rustic charm
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You know, I'm planning the year now and...

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A 777 would've been a better choice dogelul

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Gonna have to do a stopover on the way to & from the Singapore GP, on the way to US GP, on the way home from Brazil GP, and on the way to & from Vegas GP

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Possibly on the way from Mexican GP to Brazilian GP too

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It's like 9 hours in the air, not sure if it can do it with a load

reef isle
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LGAT-LGAG-LGIO

reef isle
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I am SO GLAD that in MSFS old unused airports still exist

rustic charm
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How is it

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Looks quite cool

reef isle
# rustic charm So you got it in the end

I was going to, I think I somehow treat MSFS as a sort of virtual hangar/museum, and I just like to own cool planes like these even though I know I will most likely not use them that much

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anyway

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it's as you would expect from an ini local legend

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surprisingly usable ๐Ÿ˜„

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flight model is quite nice, but a bit light and twitchy, and I'm not a big fan of the trim

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but it's enjoyable overall

rustic charm
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So the usual basically

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Not bad actually, but not among the top either

reef isle
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yeah, which I absolutely don't mind

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it's not a plane I'm obsessed with and was going to properly study anyway

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and to be fair the plane itself seems very basic

rustic charm
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Yeah, tbf I don't either. Just haven't looked into any of them too much, cause I'm just not too interested

reef isle
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it's about on par with the freeware F27

rustic charm
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The YS-11 looks kinda cool

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But idk if I wanna get it

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The F27 is obviously a no from me cause there's a freeware one (sadly not that many liveries)

reef isle
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yeah same

rustic charm
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And the An-225 is just not something I'm interested in, I just don't think I'd fly it

reef isle
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but I mean, I have to be honest, I am quite a big fan of this basic cheap and cheerful planes.

Realistically it's the only way these things will ever make sense economically

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like... you'll never get your money back if you invest to make a study level YS-11

rustic charm
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Dear ini, just take the 225 you made and rebuild it into an An-124. Literally the same cockpit, all the same systems. We need one

rustic charm
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The whole local legend/famous flyer lineup

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Obviously some of them are just bad

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But the ones from ini actually seem pretty good

reef isle
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Yeah, I think sometimes the planes they pick are a bit absurd, like why the F27 istead of the F50 for example? ๐Ÿ˜„

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but yeah...

rustic charm
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And sometimes the devs they pick are a bit absurd, like Aeroplane Heaven dogelul

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Tbf I think people say their GA stuff is not too bad, they just suck with airliners

reef isle
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I am so happy I haven't heard anything from the Caravelle, i think I would have ripped my hair out kekw

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and I'm quite happy with the one in Xplane

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and again, that's another vary basic, cheap and cheerful plane ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic charm
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I'm so sad we got a them 707 instead of something like an ini famous flyer 707

reef isle
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yeah indeed

rustic charm
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And the caravelle is probably quietly cancelled after how shit the 707 was tbh

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Cause I don't think we've heard anything about it since the 707 release

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And that was like

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2 years ago?

reef isle
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honestly... it might have been for the better

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at least they got that it was shit

rustic charm
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Oh I think it's definitely for the better

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At least it keeps the door open for someone else to make one

reef isle
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I really want this, but I absolutely shouldn't buy it, but it's on sale ๐Ÿ˜ญ
This a basic, expensive and not-very cheerful plane hahah

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I'm not sure I'll have enough self-restraint

rustic charm
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I kinda want it... but idk

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Probably shouldn't

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Because I will have to spend a lot on XP soon anyway

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Cause the 732

reef isle
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but it's the little stupid egg plane with stupid engine position

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and I want it a lot

rustic charm
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It's actually fun that as of now I've not spent a single cent on XP apart from buying the sim itself

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Gotta do a few more flights with the 154 ngl

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And of course, gotta learn the 134 too

reef isle
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I promise I'll continue with the F28, just finding the motivation to do that work isn't easy kekw

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it'll happen at some point

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in the not too distant future

rustic charm
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The Yak-40 as well of course, but that's lower priority cause the factories it's been made at are even more a mess than the Tupolev plant lol

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UWKG didn't exist in the sim at all, but at the very least it still exists irl, so I could actually make it

rustic charm
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I know how tedious it can be

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Also I want to look into the XP app too, it seems like it's the only shared cockpit option that's tested & properly stable. Not too expensive either, I might buy the premium for a month at some point so we could actually let @trim harbor be an FE

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And well tbh if at some point I test it and it does actually work well, I might just end up buying the 'elite' one-time-purchase option (I hate subscriptions lol)

reef isle
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if we end up using it a bit I wouldn't mind splitting the price

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maybe I can just send you money through PayPal or something?

rustic charm
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Nah dw, you don't have to

trim harbor
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I can host it

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As i have a sub already

rustic charm
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Oh

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Well we can try it at some point then

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Does it automatically support any plane though, or will the Tu-154 be the same as the F28 in MSFS dogelul

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Well it doesn't have to be the 154, but I just don't really have aything in XP

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The Felis 742 probably would be fun, but at this point I reckon I'll wait for the 747s in MSFS

trim harbor
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I tried

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Tu154 shall too

rustic charm
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Hmm if the 747 works then the Tu probably does indeed

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The same dev after all

hollow oracle
reef isle
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In 2026 honestly ED knowing my installed application doesn't even register as a minor privacy-related worry

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with how much google stuff I use at this point my entire life and personality is owned by the highest bidder

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privacy is dead

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My father works at a bank, and now they're using machine vision ("AI") to scan and transcribe your ID documents that are attached to your bank account

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that surely phones home too

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and if it doesn't now, it will soon

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go watch the latest google Keynote

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I'll try to de-google soon(ish)

hollow oracle
reef isle
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that ship has sailed a long time ago

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there's too much value and money behind it

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an overwhelming majority of generative AI and LLM use cases aren't acceptable either considering the drawbacks

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and yet here we are ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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as long as there's enough money behind it, politicians will be bought, guardrails will get taken down and stuff will happen

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at least I'm in the EU so I'm better off, but I don't think that'll last long tbh

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I fear that chat control will start a domino effect that will end up with GDPR and similar laws becoming more irrelevant

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I hope I'm wrong

reef isle
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@rustic charm only Overhead left to do on the F28 and then we can try it maybe?

rustic charm
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Sure, whenever you're ready

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I'm free the whole day tomorrow essentially

reef isle
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ah excellent

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I won't be around in the evening

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but maybe we can try in the morning or early afternoon

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it's significantly less stuff than the RJ kekw

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so I either cut too many corners or the plane is simpler maybe?

rustic charm
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I mean, the plane is much simpler I reckon

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Like, with the RJ you have a full FMC and stuff

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Oh and also

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The RJ & 146 have failures, so circuit breakers too

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The F28 doesn't have them

reef isle
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yeah

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even if it did have them, I don't think I would have bothered to be completely honest ๐Ÿ˜†

rustic charm
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Yeah that's fair

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I don't think we would run into failures anyway

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The chances of that on a 1-hour flight are low

reef isle
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for example I won't bother with doing all the lamp checks by clicking the buttons...

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sorry

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maybe later

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but I'd like to get it functional first?

rustic charm
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Yeah, that's absolutely understandable tbh

reef isle
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I believe they will work

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I just won't see them if you do it

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and vice versa

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but the lights if triggered by the planes' system I think will still work? and we should still see them?

rustic charm
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Alright, makes sense

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Hopefully the app works fine

reef isle
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actually, are you around now or in a little bit?

rustic charm
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Oh yeah I'm free rn

reef isle
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I might be done

rustic charm
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Sure, let's try it

reef isle
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oh wait I forgot the press thingy

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1 sec

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ok cool

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I haven't changed the useless things yet

rustic charm
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That's fine

reef isle
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how do I tell it?

rustic charm
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Hmm

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Idk

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I wonder how it even chooses which preset is which aircraft

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Could it just be the file name?

reef isle
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I wrote it in their discord

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let's see what they tell me

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maybe I'll have to give it to them...

rustic charm
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Let's see what they say

reef isle
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so in SmartCopilot all these profiles were just this text files

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but now I'm starting to think that these yamls are just one small piece

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although I don't know

rustic charm
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Hmm, tbh there could be some other file/place where they're defined additionally

reef isle
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I've asked

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let's see what they tell me

rustic charm
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Yeah, let's see

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Honestly

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Looking through the files

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I don't see anything else that could be required?

reef isle
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yeah fair enough

reef isle
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@rustic charm

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works

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they told me how to name the file ๐Ÿ˜†

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apparently I'm an idiot

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I'm happy to try tomorrow

rustic charm
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Sure, we can try tomorrow

reef isle
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@rustic charm I know it's not really morning anymore but whenever you're around tell me

rustic charm
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Give me 15 minutes

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I'll be ready

rustic charm
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All ready, just waiting for the sim to load now

reef isle
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I just spawned on the runway in LICJ

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code

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HKAIHJGS

rustic charm
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Alright

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Which of the runways

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I mean which direction

reef isle
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07

rustic charm
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Alright

reef isle
#

Nice, that worked

rustic charm
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Welp I'm in

reef isle
#

can you move the F/D mode selector?

rustic charm
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Nice graphics in FS24 kekw

reef isle
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yay ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic charm
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Yay!

reef isle
#

there are a few things I'm not sure about that aren't as straightforward

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for example the NAV frequency

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you have it on 110.5 now yes?

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NAV1

rustic charm
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Yup

reef isle
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can you set it to something else?

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I'm scared it won't sync properly

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112.5?

rustic charm
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Here's 113.9

reef isle
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yeah

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I figured as much ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I'll try to see if I can fix it

rustic charm
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So it doesn't sync those?

reef isle
#

I think I can

rustic charm
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Could it be just because I moved it too quickly, maybe it just needs more time

reef isle
rustic charm
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Oh

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Yeah, makes sense

reef isle
#

but maybe there's a way around that I haven't really looked yet

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I was hoping it would just work anyway kekw

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I set the mode selector back to HDG and the Pitch command to 0

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did you see that?

rustic charm
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Yeah

reef isle
#

perfect ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic charm
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Those work

reef isle
#

yeah, most things will work

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it's a couple of knobs and rotary things that don't

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I'll go away, see if I can figure these out and then we can try again?

rustic charm
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Sure

reef isle
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thank you so much

rustic charm
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Take your time

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You don't need to thank me ๐Ÿ˜…

trim harbor
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@rustic charm

rustic charm
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Oh that's beautiful

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Soviet cockpits are beautiful

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I need to fly the 154 more

wind kelp
hollow oracle
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??????????????

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everyone who had P3D aircraft are just fucked apparently

rustic charm
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Aren't the other versions of OC still working though

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I still have OC2 for 737s

hollow oracle
rustic charm
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Oh

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Fair

hollow oracle
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you can't do anything with OC2 anymore, no livery and aircraft management, no global flight ops, nothing

rustic charm
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Weird that they locked installing from ptp files though

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Like, why

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I get cutting it off from the servers, obviously keeping it up takes money, and PMDG doesn't like losing money

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But if you just let it exist on a legacy, no-support basis, that takes nothing away from you

hollow oracle
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at least there's a ptp extractor for P3D now

rustic charm
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LTU enjoyers assemble

rustic charm
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The only airplane in existence that will ask you for flaps 23 and still tell you to only rotate once you reach 170kts

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The landing light placement is, in standard McDonalds Douglas fashion, very weird, but tbh these landing lights are probably my favourite lol

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And across 10000, lights out

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Controlled rest time

rustic charm
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Fucked up on route input a bit yesterday

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But well it was like 3am

rustic charm
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Descending into Cancun

rustic charm
rustic charm
wind kelp
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thanks middle east agony2

wind kelp
rustic charm
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There's only 1 place I could be going to

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No controlled rest on this short hop, but it's time to go prepare an in-flight meal instead

trim harbor
#

Weโ€™re excited to finally share the first major 787-9 development update.

This update marks a huge milestone for us in the development of the VECTOR 787-9. For the first time, we can truly bring together the two core worlds that define this aircraft: deep systems simulation and visual fidelity, alongside all the sub-branches that support and c...

midnight whale
#

I did my first longhaul flight today from RJTT to EDDF, 13h 46min flight time excited

rustic charm
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And I'm in Hong Kong

dusty sky
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It's crazy fast

reef isle
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78 is fast

dusty sky
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That isn't even a 78 but ok

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How do I change the engines on the xplane A330 ๐Ÿ˜ญ

reef isle
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oh yeah kekw

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well, 350 is fast too

rustic charm
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Ngl can't wait until PMDGs release

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On that note, DEAR PMDG WHERE ARE MY 747S

rustic charm
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Honestly, flying this plane empty is such a fucking pain

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6.5 tons of ballast needed to keep the CGs within limits

rustic charm
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Doing this in what is essentially a glorified heading mode will be fun

rustic charm
rustic charm
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The night is coming

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If I were delivering one to Aeroflot or something, I would've already been in Moscow

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But I still have 3:30 to go lol

rustic charm
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We really need to do a group flight in this thing

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Cause I really do need a navigator

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In other words: I got lost again

tired pond
#

Interest lost in KATL now

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Vibe coded DRM wtf

rustic charm
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Yeah that doesn't sound all too nice

tired pond
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Tbh I'm not against lite DRM but it is a bit redudant as everything is cracked in the end, the worst thing about it is the fact it's vibe coded

rustic charm
trim harbor
dusty sky
trim harbor
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considering its ATL + traffic levels + unoptimized planes

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lol

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gonna be a joy

rustic charm
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I have just over half of the flight left

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And

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0 nav

dusty sky
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you picked possibly the worst time to fly at

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but I mean

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what is tree number 76765467676564 gonna differ from tree 98486421394

rustic charm
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Eh, the time doesn't matter really

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Oh have I mentioned that the plane refuses to follow VORs too

dusty sky
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fun

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is it a B2?

rustic charm
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M

dusty sky
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image says no

rustic charm
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Ah brilliant

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Thankfully it's a false alarm, because it doesn't take into account tank 4

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My real fuel total right now is around 8500

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Which tbf isn't really enough to fly for 2 more hours, plus I ain't flying 2 hours with this alarm on

rustic charm
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Not Mirny, but it'll do

rustic charm
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Welp, landed it

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Not too well, but it's fine

reef isle
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after their whole discord server revolted against them for 6 hours

tired pond
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I saw lmao

reef isle
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nice ๐Ÿ”ฅ

rustic charm
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Yep, indeed

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I need to fly it more

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Maybe I'll have fewer issues kekw

trim harbor
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i didnt know they fly to europe

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interesting

reef isle
rustic charm
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Pretty

rustic charm
#

Ngl I need short hops in Europe more

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Italy & Spain in particular

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Did Alitalia use MD-80s and DC-9 much domestically?

reef isle
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Literally you can realistically fly the MD-80 from anywhere to anywhere in Italy

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Italy was the MD-80 and DC-9's European home

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Alitalia (and other smaller carriers like Meridiana) have historically been some of McD's biggest customers

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Spain is another good one because of Spanair

rustic charm
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Fair

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Gotta deliver an Alitalia MD-80 then

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Didn't you do a livery btw? Or was that on the DC-9

reef isle
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Yes

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I modified the default DC-9 livery to be actually decent

rustic charm
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Ah, fair

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Gotta get that then

reef isle
#

on the MD80 there are alredy loads of good options

rustic charm
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Even though I'm not too sure I'm gonna take the DC-9, just a bit of a pain to do deliveries on it anywhere other than the states

reef isle
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not sure how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go but Alitalia has never really been one uniform block, especially before the 2000s

rustic charm
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It's a shame the 20th anniversary edition didn't get much attention in that regard

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At least I have Hawaii

reef isle
#

For a while there was ATI

rustic charm
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That looks cool

reef isle
#

that then merged with Alitalia and that spawned a few interesting variations

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green

rustic charm
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Oh yeah that's unusual

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Guess I'll use one of the default ones tbf

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There's just a specific reg that I think works perfectly

reef isle
#

the of course you have the different Alitalia schemes themselves

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since the MD80 was in service long enough to see the latest design as well

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this was for the MD-80s last flight with Alitalia

rustic charm
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That's cool

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I'm not sure which variation the default one is tbf

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Not sure if it's very accurate either, but probably is good enough

reef isle
#

I think it was the one before this

reef isle
#

it's I-DAWG right?

rustic charm
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Yep

dusty sky
rustic charm
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And people will still say a perfect registration doesn't exist

reef isle
rustic charm
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Tbh I think Alitalia had plenty more

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Plus it wasn't just Alitalia either

rustic charm
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That's not a bad name

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But

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Why's it a cow

reef isle
#

apprently those are supposed to be clouds kekw

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but it's 100% a cow

dusty sky
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Clouds if it's a fucking thunder storm

reef isle
#

BTW Meridiana used the other FMS option, the one labelled Canadian/PMS

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Alitalia had Honeywell, and had HUDs fitted

dusty sky
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Not exactly the most inspiring

rustic charm
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It's a plane that carrier the nickname "mad dog", painted into clouds that look like a cow

dusty sky
#

๐Ÿ’€

rustic charm
#

I think Alaska used that one too

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I found out when I loaded up the aircraft

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Did the delivery

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Never touched it since

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Scary encounter

reef isle
#

I don't think so, they had a "batch" which was VERY early on in production so it had the analogue cockpit (@Leonardo) and no HUD

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but then the other ones were pretty much the ones Leonardo did

rustic charm
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Hmm, weird

reef isle
#

in fact Leonardo is made up by an ex-Alitalia and an ex-Meridiana guy ๐Ÿ˜„

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I'm fairly positive of that

rustic charm
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Wouldn't be surprised tbf

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I really really hope they change their minds eventually and do the analogue cockpits (or MD-81s overall)

reef isle
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Yeah, i think you have an almost perfect recreation of the Alitalia and Meridiana planes depending on the options you pick

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While the DC-9 is unfortunately very very different

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I think the guy that did it was Mexican and based it off the Mexicana DC-9s

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and that had a very different, slightly unusual cockpit config

rustic charm
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But for now I'm waiting for freighters that they said would come eventually

#

Everts ops will shine in new light with a freighter MD-80

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Think Everts flies MD-88s specifically, so the cockpits we have would be pretty accurate

rustic charm
reef isle
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yeah at some point I might try and make a proper flight model for it, I think I have learned just enough to have a chance, but yeah...

rustic charm
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And also, the DC-9 is from an earlier age, I wouldn't be too surprised if they in reality were somewhat like 727s - every single airline flies a slightly different configuration

reef isle
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I did a sort of kitbash and modified the Leonardo flight model to make it a DC-9

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I think I posted it somewhere

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it actually worked quite well ๐Ÿ˜…

rustic charm
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I'm not sure if you've posted it, but I remember you've sent it to me

reef isle
#

if you want to do short italian flights Itavia had the F-28

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and there are quite a few timetables available

rustic charm
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Oh that's neat

reef isle
#

This Mixer66 guy is another gigachad in terms of old and forgotten italian liveries

rustic charm
#

2024 only though

reef isle
#

like the NB guy

rustic charm
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Well that's fine, I'll have to move sims eventually anyway

#

At this point I'm just delaying the inevitable dogelul

#

Oh I think that's the same guy who did Montenegro actually

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So probably stopped downloads on all the liveries then

reef isle
#

yeah...

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I wonder why

rustic charm
#

Oh

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Looks like he just went off fs.to

reef isle
#

oh ๐Ÿ‘€

#

maybe he wants to be emailled?

rustic charm
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Though I'm not sure how that works

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Maybe?

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Or maybe you can somehow download it from a drive, like with google

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Idk

reef isle
#

no idea really

rustic charm
#

I assume just got upset with fs.to for whichever reason

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Which tbf is completely fair, I don't judge things like that

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Plus fs.to has surprised even me a few times recently...

reef isle
rustic charm
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Yeah

reef isle
#

if I had the hardware and know-how to self host I probably would

rustic charm
#

Idk how they manage to make the website worse every time

reef isle
#

judging by their art work, AI has something to do with it kekw

rustic charm
#

I remember a few years ago I knew how to make websites

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Not very complicated stuff

#

But the basics and some formatting and all

reef isle
#

Interesting

#

I did remember looking into that some time ago and came to the same realization

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that it would have been feasible to have something usable

#

but I don't really have the hardware yet

#

maybe if at some point I'll get a new PC I'll probably repurpose this to do something maybe along thes lines?

rustic charm
#

Yeah, I think basically to host a website you need just any device that has a CPU, storage and an internet connection

#

There's also the option to just buy hosting too, I've not tried anything like that though so can't really say anything

#

Also I think even if you want to host it yourself, you need to still buy a domain, which can be pricy

#

(well it's more so renting usually iirc)

rustic charm
#

Btw, has anyone looked into how traffic functions in MSFS?

#

I was just thinking of whether it's possible to kinda make backdated traffic, but easily

#

Like, it'd be unrealistic of course, but something along the lines of simply swapping all the A320s for 727s (maybe just replacing the model files? So the game still thinks it spawns 320s, but they look like 727s)

rustic charm
#

Why

#

The fuck

#

Does my 727 just not work

#

Like idk what to do now

#

The nav & radios just refuse to work

#

I can't change any frequencies

#

Like technically they fully work, but everything is just stuck on the same frequency

#

And it's only the frequencies for comm/VOR/ADF

#

Everything else is fine

#

Ngl, I have no idea what could possibly be wrong

trim harbor
#

yesnt

#

i do some work for SI and their ai traffic

rustic charm
#

Oh that's cool

reef isle
#

Look for flight simulator museum

#

Really cool channel btw

#

Someone has managed to have FSX/FS2004 models and liveries in MSFS

rustic charm
reef isle
hollow oracle
#

pretty uneventful flight

#

ive become extremely proficient at flying the 737 though

civic aspen
#

First flight into two weeks, and ofc it's the 737Ng

reef isle
#

finally a flight tracking things that groups by aircraft type

#

kekw I need help

#

like 70h combined on the BAe

#

I really didn't think I flew the BAe more than the F28

#

guess it makes sense ๐Ÿ˜…

rustic charm
#

Oh how can you see that

reef isle
rustic charm
#

Ah, fair

civic aspen
rustic charm
#

Pretty

rustic charm
#

The next few days probably means no more than a week

full plank
#

im hoping both will be good

hollow oracle
#

its funny, i realized that the reason why I struggle so bad with landing GA aircraft, and not commercial aircraft (even the ones I havent flown before) is because there is no RA on GA aircraft

rustic charm
#

They updated their website today, they're also seemingly gonna be adding new store options

tired pond
#

It's really getting there tbh

rustic charm
#

I am inclined to agree

tired pond
#

Few things holding it back from me using it still like hardware support but once that starts to get there I think I'll be flying it a bit, especially as the sounds are being done by someone who I think is on the level of boris

hollow oracle
#

i just bought the IXEG and never looked back tbh

#

its only the -300, but i dont regret it one bit

civic aspen
hollow oracle
#

this game is so much fun

#

it just kind of sucks that its a B-17 simulator, not a flight simulator, the actual controls to fly the B-17 are pretty abysmal

#

but other than the actual piloting, everything else is really fun

#

i havent checked into the microprose B-17 in MSFS2024 for a while, the last i saw of it, it was in pretty rough shape

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โ–ถ Play video
#

oh... seems like im not missing much

hollow oracle
#

i had no idea they were doing an F, which is one of the most underrepresented B-17 variants in flight sim even though it was one of the most produced

rustic charm
#

Still don't know why tbh

trim harbor
#

still looking forward to it

reef isle
rustic charm
#

Air Portugal

#

Pretty

#

Lisbon is pretty too. Been there a while ago, it was cool

#

I need to fly the tristar more

dusty sky
#

and also

#

what ambitious project from 2019?

rustic charm
#

The 380

reef isle
#

when you have a little bit of time we can try this

#

My hopes are not too high

rustic charm
#

Well I'm free even now

#

Could just give it a go

reef isle
#

give me one sec

#

@rustic charm ULZFGHLK

rustic charm
#

Alright, let me just load in first

#

Where do we spawn

reef isle
#

oh sorry

#

LICJ

#

25

rustic charm
#

Alright

reef isle
#

it says no profile available even though I copy pasted the name of the old one

#

it's the same right?

rustic charm
#

Yeah it was the same, definitely

#

I've just loaded into the airport

#

Says no profile for me too though

#

And I can't connect because of that

reef isle
#

this works

#

RWCXWIKV

#

sorry about that

rustic charm
#

No problem

reef isle
rustic charm
#

Yep

reef isle
#

Flaps worked?

rustic charm
#

Yep

reef isle
#

NAV1 115.6?

rustic charm
#

Yup

reef isle
#

You see the VOR indications right?

#

should be 113.0 now

rustic charm
#

Yup

reef isle
#

you see the same?

rustic charm
#

Yeah

reef isle
#

CRS1 176, HEADING 300 CRS2 242?

rustic charm
#

Yup

#

Seems to be working

reef isle
#

Nice ๐Ÿ˜„

#

ALT setting 1001/2955?

rustic charm
#

Yes

reef isle
#

and ALT SEL 5000

#

this one, not the fancy one

rustic charm
#

Oh wait I have the other config

#

We need to fly the same one I'm pretty sure kekw

reef isle
#

you're moving around as well yes?

rustic charm
#

Yep

#

And yeah, it's set to 5000

reef isle
#

nice ๐Ÿ˜„

#

cool seems like everything is working

rustic charm
#

Yeah

#

Also just one thing I noticed

#

The cockpit reg is Russan

reef isle
#

oh yeah

#

you need to change it

#

when you select the plane

#

it's FS24 BS

rustic charm
#

Oh wait I'm supposed to set it myself?

#

Interesting

#

Alright

reef isle
#

yeah the JF planes use the dynamic reg for the cockpit

#

the exterior one shouldn't change

#

Cool, that's fun ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic charm
#

Yeah the exterior is correct

reef isle
#

I guess we'll just plan when to fly next ๐Ÿ˜›

rustic charm
#

Yeah

reef isle
#

so happy this is done ๐Ÿ˜†

#

if everything works I'll give the profile to the FSCopilot people so they can upload it

rustic charm
#

Yeah, good work there really

reef isle
#

sorry I took so much time

rustic charm
#

Don't worry about that, there's no rush

rustic charm
#

2024 performance for me is still unbearable

#

And I run the thing on med/low mostly too

#

The only things I have at high are clouds and stuff

rustic charm
#

And I'm doing something wrong again because it ain't wanna start XD

#

For some reason when I try to do the engine start, it just doesn't go past 24.0 N2/2.8 N1

rustic charm
#

Open

reef isle
#

then you should be able to start eng2

#

can you screenshot the F/E panel? @rustic charm

reef isle
rustic charm
reef isle
#

only for ENG2 though

#

if you want to start ENG1 or 3 you'd need to open the cross bleed

rustic charm
#

It's 2 I'm trying now

#

No idea why it's just not

reef isle
rustic charm
#

Yep

reef isle
#

and even then it doesn't go past 8% N1?

rustic charm
#

Not 8

#

2.8

reef isle
#

oh

rustic charm
#

24% N2

reef isle
#

looks like it's not introducing fuel properly and it's jut motoring

rustic charm
#

Wait huh

#

It just limits N2

reef isle
#

you can try latching these

#

although I don't think it should make a difference

rustic charm
#

Oh

#

That's weird

#

The pumps were just off

reef isle
#

yes

rustic charm
#

They looked like they were on, but were actually off

reef isle
#

yes

rustic charm
#

Now it works

reef isle
#

yeah I can even tell

#

by the screenshot

#

but didn't notice

#

sorry

#

for me it does this fairly rarely

#

usually after an update?

#

it has done it since very early builds

rustic charm
#

Probably an update yeah

reef isle
#

they made it work a lot more consistently, but sometimes happens, no idea why

rustic charm
#

Cause I've not flown it since the last one

reef isle
#

also in theory you shouldn't have been able to start the APU

#

it doesn't scavenge its fuel automatically like some other planes

rustic charm
#

Well, the APU worked for some reason

reef isle
#

but whatever

reef isle
#

it never cared about fuel pumps at all

#

on some planes it's realistic, not on the 1011

#

I didn't realize, and it took someone else way after release to point it out ๐Ÿ˜