Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[trim harbor]

theres an fmc though apparently so

i'll have to take a look

gotta figure out how to calculate the g'ole descend

[shadow burrow]

lazy

[rustic charm]

I always just use the clipboard, you can set the target altitude and it’s gonna tell you the vspeed and distance you need

Then I just check based on what the updated calculations (the clipboard automatically re-calculates every so often) and how it feels of course

Meanwhile I have 1 question: how do they navigate visually around Paro? I’m doing some practice laps in the 146 and I got completely lost in the mountains

[trim harbor]

thats the whole reason

i love the LTN92 on the 742 though

i think i fucked the ils up

[rustic charm]

Eh, looks more or less fine to me

[trim harbor]

didnt cap it tho

i wonder if i did something wrong

[topaz geyser]

A walking bad camera with no antiglare coating.

Which even my glasses have.

[dusty sky]

I'm just staring at this knowing I'll never get it

[trim harbor]

based

[untold finch]

Is that the 727F?

Definitely on my list to pick up when I get back to flight simming

[trim harbor]

yup

[dusty sky]

Not getting the 727F is literally on my 2025 bingo card

[rustic charm]

I’m waiting for the passenger one now

Should be out beginning 2025 as per FSS statements

[trim harbor]

holz shit

[dusty sky]

I think he wants you to go via November

Idk just a hunch

[trim harbor]

@rustic charm

how much does this image hurt you

[rustic charm]

Why the glass cockpit 😭😭😭😭

11/10 pain

Honestly if there were just the nav computers, it wouldn’t be painful. VOR to VOR flight is always more fun. But it’s the displays that cause pain.

[shadow burrow]

More reliable

[rustic charm]

Well, absolutely

[shadow burrow]

Looks kinda like a 737 classic glass suite?

[rustic charm]

Plus I genuinely won’t deny a navigation display makes it soooo much nicer to fly

For real pilots, having displays is definitely much nicer

[trim harbor]

11/10 beauty

old planes with modern retrofit just

are chefs kiss

[shadow burrow]

100%

[rustic charm]

I genuinely just prefer original condition

But to be honest, it doesn’t look too bad

[shadow burrow]

Only one I’ll disagree on is the DC3

With the full glass it looks dreadful

[trim harbor]

theres a glass cockpit for the dc3?

[shadow burrow]

I love this so much

[shadow burrow]

Ofc

I think this is wrong

Morally

Ripped out the entire front panel

This is done better

[rustic charm]

In reality, I’d choose this over a true 732 cockpit anytime. In the sim, I’ll stay with the 722 that has no autothrottle and only INS for navigation

[rustic charm]

Okay now that is truly disgusting

At that point why have a DC-3

[shadow burrow]

This is all you need

[rustic charm]

That is absolutely right

[shadow burrow]

Chuck a directional indicator and a gps unit on the glaresheild

Boom

You now have a modern DC3

[rustic charm]

Also why did they change the yokes on these ones 😭

[mild zenith]

I rather not have a steering wheel though 😂

[shadow burrow]

I mean I doubt anything in that flight deck is original

Actually I got another pretty cursed one

742

I think felis said he wanted a glass cockpit release with the 742F

When he eventually gets that done

[rustic charm]

That actually looks more or less fine

[shadow burrow]

@trim harbor hyper fucking cursed

[rustic charm]

Doesn’t look much like a 742, but fine

[shadow burrow]

747-200 with -400 FMC’s and an MD11 MFD

I don’t even know what the fuck this is 😂😂😂😂😂

[rustic charm]

I guess that’s one way to add a navigation display

[dusty sky]

You mean this?

[untold finch]

Even the B-52 has a glass cockpit now

or part-glass, anyway

[dusty sky]

Glass is kinda stretching it lol

Like really stretching it

What even is that, radar?

[untold finch]

standard multi-function display

so a bit of everything

in this case, just looks like some sort of nav/route display

[trim harbor]

beuaty

look sex

[trim harbor]

thats terribl

e

[dusty sky]

So kinda like that center screen on the commercial airlines or what

[dusty sky]

Checks out with the username

[shadow burrow]

I love it

[dusty sky]

I'd be fine if the fmc's were matching the rest of the cockpit

[reef isle]

Yes

The VFW-614 ATTAS will always be the most cursed

but unfortunately it was just a testbed

[trim harbor]

fresh out the scrapyard typa beat

[trim harbor]

wtf IS THAT

[hollow oracle]

i realized that i cant upload my modified hawaiian livery to fs.to, but i can upload it here

https://flightsim.to/file/82119/hawaiian-airlines

its that livery, but modified with sharklets, and a few details like the hawaiian flag, name, and some tiny logos that they had missed

id like to make a peach livery for the fenix a321, that one would be from scratch though (irl they fly the A321LRs, but the fenix is close enough)

[shadow burrow]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[tardy hedge]

can anybody tell me what the HELL my a380 is doing

Nevermind there we go

[tardy hedge]

this thing is fun to fly after you figure out the weird stuff about it

holy shit this thing climbs insanely though

reached my top of climb way earlier than expected

[trim harbor]

@shadow burrow

I hate german air travel

Literally why

[shadow burrow]

Lmao

[trim harbor]

Thats my inbound on a connecting

Crazy

[shadow burrow]

Fly from Berlin or something

That’s pretty standard for German

[trim harbor]

This is the alternative

For a 30 min flight

[shadow burrow]

Haha

That’s brilliant

[rustic charm]

Yeah I’ve been told the fbw380 is way too overpowered in terms of climb

[tardy hedge]

i love flying for 8 hours straight doing absolutely nothing

[tardy hedge]

yeah def needs a fix

[trim harbor]

Rebooked for 100€

[shadow burrow]

dlh moment

[rustic charm]

British Jemways

Ngl BA is lovely

[trim harbor]

reinstalled windows

i went from 15 fps in msfs to over 80

okay then

[wide zenith]

easy gains 🗣️

reminding me I gotta do one at some point

[wide zenith]

even better now i have the airbus tca stuff and i no longer have an annoying noisy throttle

[trim harbor]

it appears to have fixed 80% of my pc

i all of a sudden ahve surround sound i never knew i had

peak

[wide zenith]

oh also for anyone looking to get the ini a350, theyre now releasing it on 2020 first and 2024 later

[trim harbor]

hopefully still this yr

[wide zenith]

everyones expecting it this year so people are gonna be pissed

if so ofc

[wide zenith]

that'll do it

I've had windows installs so messed up i forget what normal windows was like

[rustic charm]

I reinstalled windows once…

[tardy hedge]

breaking bad

[wide zenith]

waltuh

[dusty sky]

Waltuh we need to land waltuh

[wide zenith]

no half measures waltuh

[dusty sky]

Wultuh I can't see 5 feet in front of me what is this shit waltuh

[trim harbor]

tempted to set my honeycomb stuff up again

so bulky though

it's terrible

[dusty sky]

Wdym by bulky?

[rustic charm]

When I did that, the new windows install (the one I’m currently on too) was missing everything. It was even missing the drivers needed to connect to wireless internet. Now guess what? If you can’t connect to the internet, you can’t download the drivers needed to connect to the internet. Yeah, I have no cable btw. Glad I at least have external SSDs. I literally just grabbed one, went to an old mac desktop that’s not been used for years, somehow downloaded the needed stuff there

[trim harbor]

le terrible

[dusty sky]

So you mean it's massive

[trim harbor]

yes

[wide zenith]

Oof thats rough

[rustic charm]

Ngl I really wanna get myself some hardware but I wanna get something that will be properly usable for the planes I fly

[trim harbor]

holy yes please

[dusty sky]

Looks larger than the saitek yoke damn, and I thought that was big

[dusty sky]

Holy crap that's a steal

[rustic charm]

The airbus TCA pack is of course nice, but literally 100% of the planes I fly are yoke planes

[wide zenith]

unless i get massively rich i will still fly boeing with a joystick lmao

[trim harbor]

work has done a terrible thing to me

[wide zenith]

TCA boeing looks elite

[trim harbor]

earning alot comes with spending too much money

[rustic charm]

No way that’s the real price

[trim harbor]

atleast 80% of my salary goes towards flight sim

prob

[dusty sky]

I mean yeah ofc

Sounds about right

[rustic charm]

I’d spend more on flight sim hardware if I were able to get something without paying £200-£300 for delivery…

[dusty sky]

Give the honeycomb yoke to me I kinda need a more modern joystick anyway lol

[rustic charm]

That’s such a steal

[trim harbor]

bruh it's literally cheaper to ship it to japan than germany

thats mad

[tardy hedge]

mmm yum

[dusty sky]

I love eating images

[trim harbor]

Though

It‘s only an addon to the existing base

[rustic charm]

Can I bet it’s gonna be cheaper to ship it to Germany and then additionally from Germany to Japan than it would be to ship to Russia

[rustic charm]

Ah, well that makes more sense

[trim harbor]

I‘d pay to 18.30 to ship it to my japanese adress

[dusty sky]

That... I'm gonna gonne comment

[trim harbor]

And 18.36 to ship it to my german one

6 cents r 6 cents

[rustic charm]

$18.36 shipping?…

[dusty sky]

Where the hell are they shiping from, Pakistan

[trim harbor]

i meann

wait

[dusty sky]

That's so close like bru

[trim harbor]

im retarded

it's the other way around

peak

[rustic charm]

That’s still absolutely a steal

[dusty sky]

Nice I'm not alone

[trim harbor]

i mean

thats about $18 ontop of ABOUT 180 bucks

depending on the package u buy

[rustic charm]

Yeah, but that’s $18 shipping still

[dusty sky]

What do you even add it to?

[rustic charm]

$18 for international shipping is cheap

[trim harbor]

honeycomb bravo throttle base

p cool

[dusty sky]

The cutoff is the coolest part in my opinion

[dusty sky]

Damn that's nice

Why are there two flap levers?

[rustic charm]

They have a 727 package as well

[trim harbor]

lefts speedbrake

rights flaps

[dusty sky]

Yeah I know

[rustic charm]

The little one is from the base

[dusty sky]

Ah ok

[trim harbor]

idk if i'd buy the 737 oder 777 one though

i fly more 777

[dusty sky]

Damn that's such a nice collection they have

[shadow burrow]

Do a barrel roll 😉

[dusty sky]

The flybywire doesn't allow that 🤓

[wide zenith]

chrimmy lights at EGPH

[wide zenith]

oh my 👀

[echo gorge]

Oh hell yeah

Bit too modern but still super freaking cool

[reef isle]

Oh 🫤

[lethal jasper]

just imagine its a CRJ2

[mild zenith]

That is your opinion

[echo gorge]

Well yeah duh

[trim harbor]

Holy w

[hollow oracle]

I kinda want to give FS2crew a shot again

It’s so scary having an AI do all of your copilot stuff though, because then i don’t really know what he’s doing and that scares me

Even knowing airbus SOP by heart, I don’t know how FS2crew sets up their checklists and flows, and I don’t want to be on final and have some fuckup happen

Though, especially during takeoff and landing, having a real copilot do callouts and the after landing checklist automatically would be extremely helpful

I did try simfx by p42 though, and I’m really enjoying that, the details are extremely small but the price tag matches what it adds atleast

[wide zenith]

LON S CTR with no locals is a hellscape I hope to never experience again

[dusky leaf]

New Thranda PC12

[trim harbor]

Fs2crew w batc

[hollow oracle]

I don’t think BATC works with fs2crew

[trim harbor]

they dont need to be compat

literally just use batc auto radio and use fs2crew

[hollow oracle]

fs2crew has that weird radio thing though, where the first officer calls for pushback/taxi/takeoff/landing clearances

it can work, but then its a little out of sequence

[dusky leaf]

In the pattern at CYNH

[trim harbor]

has anyone tried the default 747-8i

is it any good

or whats the mod one needs

[hollow oracle]

i honestly have no idea anymore

i tried the salty 747, people said that its outdated now and that the default one is much better than salty now

and then i tried the default 747 and its still not great, plus only the salty one has the freighter variant

[trim harbor]

hm

[hollow oracle]

so, its either suffer, or suffer

[trim harbor]

i'll stick w my 777f

[wide zenith]

748i with the ft sim sounds is okay

its what I'd call scraping the barrel for desparetely wanting a boeing quad engine aircraft in msfs

[trim harbor]

a380

[wide zenith]

its not the best.. but it kinda works and is semi flyable

yeah fly the a380 tbh lol

[trim harbor]

i misread

holy shit im retarded

a380 aint no boeing

but yea fly the a380 atp

[hollow oracle]

the 747 is definitely better than the a380 tbh

[trim harbor]

how

[hollow oracle]

i can actually fly the 747 without having major bugs or huge performance issues

the a380 was absolutely released prematurely

[trim harbor]

dw we got the a350

soon

[hollow oracle]

for msfs 2024

atleast the 757 is going to be in 2020 first

[trim harbor]

no

[wide zenith]

its releasing 2020 now, the a350

[trim harbor]

2020

[hollow oracle]

[trim harbor]

flying with a yoke

is so much more difficult

goddamn

[rustic charm]

Wish I had a yoke

[hollow oracle]

im looking at this cheap bundle on amazon thats like $200

its a GA yoke rather than a boeing style one

[trim harbor]

it flies weird

not a bad weird

though honeycombs' tiny throttles r annyoing

[dusty sky]

NoOne lives in Russia he can't really buy flight sim hardware properly sadly

[hollow oracle]

feet

feet

[hollow oracle]

im going to do it chat... im going to fly an airplane

the last flight ive done is almost 10 days ago now

[hollow oracle]

nice! FS2crew is crashing MSFS during load

and because it crashes during load, i cant troubleshoot it

nevermind, a PC restart fixed it

[hollow oracle]

And also nevermind, the flight won’t happen tonight, and probably won’t until after Christmas

[mild zenith]

Most normal ngc flight

[dusty sky]

most normal msfs jetway

this game is so pretty

Can someone explain to me why the IRS on the A310 doesn't align for me anymore

[rustic charm]

This thing is cute

Also for the record, I did absolutely fucking butcher the landing

[dusty sky]

It's ok, that's normal for that plane

[shadow burrow]

Q1 2025 https://youtu.be/JzcF7LITYww?si=tkdsfnU_Z8sXrYyW

[trim harbor]

boooooooo

delayed

[wide zenith]

yippee

BTV too

[trim harbor]

hey look its the feature i missed from

uh

a380

[wide zenith]

think they made a mistake with going for a 2024 first direction and that caused a delay

[shadow burrow]

Tbf it's better performance on 2024 than on 2020

[wide zenith]

ehhhh

[trim harbor]

batc still got issues w traffic

[rustic charm]

Flying to Princess Juliana right now, ngl I still can’t quite believe that tiny place used to be served with 747s

[dusty sky]

Proves how capable the 747 is

[hollow oracle]

so true 🥲

[dusty sky]

1 decade ago is crazy 💀

[trim harbor]

12 hour hop

[wide zenith]

Aerologic livery is so nice on the 77F

[hollow oracle]

I REALLY want to do the flight that icelandair does between Pittsburgh and Reykjavik, but it’s in the max 8, and you can’t really do simrate in the ifly one

Only like 6 hours, I’ve done longer, but still

[trim harbor]

aerologic best

[trim harbor]

take a nap or sleep

literally

[trim harbor]

https://www.thresholdx.net/news/luu1rd

@shadow burrow

[shadow burrow]

ohhhhhh

niceeeee

[hollow oracle]

I don’t know if I trust the ifly enough to do that though

Even though my new PC is 110% capable of running it, I still don’t have the trust yet

[wide zenith]

https://fselite.net/content/pmdg-previews-747-100-for-msfs/

oop

[dusty sky]

Yay, msfs 2024 plane

[rustic charm]

I’ve probably said this many times, but I’ll say it again: I’ll trust JF more

I’m not a PMDG hater at all (enough to just look at my most-flown planes to tell that) but I do think JF will do a better job with their 747 classic. Although I don’t remember if they are planning to do the other variants too, whereas PMDG iirc plan to have all of the 747s done

[wide zenith]

JF on an individual basis i’d expect that it would be better

count me basic but I want a 400 so bad, 4 rb211s strapped to a plane yes please

Thought i’d ask here but any recommend payware devs in the africa, oceania or asia regions

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

I’m like between investing in USA ops or more diverse stuff in those regions cause I don’t expect the ops between usa and eu are too different

[hollow oracle]

accurate reaction to being copilot to my flying skills

i actually almost had my first tailstrike the other day, when i was testing the 777F a bit, i got maybe a foot away from striking

[rustic charm]

I’m choosing options right now too lol

The marketplace sale started (and obviously the marketplace is the easiest way for me right now)

I could technically even get the rest of the 737s since they’re on a bit of a sale too

But I’m not sure I need them cause I really don’t have that much use for the -600, and the -900… I’m just not sure

I wanna pick up some airports, if anyone has any recommendations which would be appropriate for short-medium haul and 737s, I’m listening

I’m mainly looking for interesting approaches and stuff, just stuff which is interesting to fly to. Beautiful airports also work

[shadow burrow]

Space simulator anyone?

[rustic charm]

Welp, wanted to buy some interesting approach fields, but tbf didn’t find any that were on a discount I considered good enough (Kai Tak isn’t on sale 😭) so settled on a selection of rather big fields. Bought Heathrow, Dubai International, Renton and Ronald Reagan National

[wide zenith]

Ohhh good haul that

River visual KDCA is amazing

[rustic charm]

Yep

The sole reason why I picked the thing

Although turns out I am missing just a bit for Renton (cause yes, I calculated how much money I need but I miscalculated)

And I guess I’m gonna get something else then too, cause I am settled on Renton, yet I don’t like to pay transaction fees for tiny sums

[shadow burrow]

portland harbour visual is just as good

fucking love that

[rustic charm]

The Portland ME one?

[shadow burrow]

yeah

[rustic charm]

Tried it, went around 2 times

[shadow burrow]

oof

just hit the first couple islands at about 1500 and start the turn

follow the coast

[rustic charm]

Doc then judged my landing and said it was actually not too bad considering I had absolutely zero clue what I was doing (I only briefly looked over the chart, I’ve not looked at any videos or anything)

[rustic charm]

Well I did do something similar

Really what messed me up was the slight crosswind. I just can’t deal with it, at all. Crosswinds just kill me

[wide zenith]

Ngl the sales have destroyed me, I invested a bit into east and west coast USA stuff like KSFO, KLAS,KBOS

[wide zenith]

I haven't seen or heard this one before, will have to watch a vid on it

I know KLGA has an interesting arrival too

[rustic charm]

You will not regret Boston

Out of all the sceneries I own

The one I like the most by far

Not only is it awesomely high quality, but it also is very nicely optimised from my experience

[rustic charm]

LaGuardia has several visuals, the one people usually talk about is arriving over the Hudson, right nearby the statue of liberty, and then cutting across the central park. It is really fun to do cause you’re flying right through central Manhattan

[reef isle]

Welcome to the jet age

[rustic charm]

Oh yes, the third jet airliner ever designed

I always just consider it funny how the ones who actually started the jetliner age were the Brits. Not the US, not the USSR, but the UK

Just wish we had more of that early stuff in MSFS… but there is a Comet being made for 2024 afaik

[reef isle]

What the UK did right after WWII ended was really smart and forward thinking, after that... the exact opposite

The UK was in a really good position to take a leading role in aerospace, and they've started really well, and then just threw it away

[rustic charm]

If only the AH 707 didn’t suck so much… whenever I fly the 727 I just can’t help but think that the 707 is really similar, if FSS could do one so nicely, that means there wasn’t anything apart from effort stopping AH from doing the same

[reef isle]

Yeah the Aeroplane Hell 707...

let's not talk about that

[rustic charm]

I paid not that much for it, and yet I regret even that

[reef isle]

It's so sad that they're the same bunch of people that are doing the Caravelle

[rustic charm]

Oh yes, the Caravelle….

[reef isle]

😭 please somehow don't be awful

[rustic charm]

It was supposed to release half a year ago wasn’t it

[reef isle]

I don't know, maybe?

[rustic charm]

They’ll delay it even more, and it’s gonna end up as shit as the 707 anyway

[reef isle]

I'm using a good percentage of the world's hopium supply to counter that thought

please let it be OK

please

[rustic charm]

Yeah… we need more hopium

And also copium too, cause that will probably be needed

[reef isle]

production can't keep up

[reef isle]

ahahaahah yes

[rustic charm]

I need hopium for something Soviet…

I mean, there is a 154 in progress at least

How much I’d love an Il-62…

An Il-76 would be perfect as well. Such a nice plane really

I guess the market for that is just not as big, so devs don’t really see it as a way to do business

[trim harbor]

d

[hollow oracle]

ngc flying easylifejet?

fs2crew does have GSX integration actually

i really want this to work, but it just doesnt

i have no fucking idea what the FO is doing, even when it says it right infront of me in the info center

he's using the wrong units, he wont automatically set flaps, on takeoff he set AP first, then gear up caused AP to turn off, then AP on again, then flaps 0, and then AP on again

double cockpit seats, its just a horrible experience

which really sucks, because i want a real copilot, flying solo sucks so bad

i definitely need to learn how it works to actually enjoy it, but i dont feel like doing like 3 hours of troubleshooting for something that sort of, kinda, works

i want a first officer to share the workload, but i want to retain full control of the aircraft at all times. being able to predict what the first officer is doing without any confusion

[trim harbor]

fs2crew is easy to deal with

idk what ur doing wrong

[hollow oracle]

for some reason the automatic triggers wouldnt activate checklists, so i was hitting the button to progress, but i dont know what is automatic and what isnt, so he would go quiet for like 5 seconds and id hit z again to make sure it registered

like, on takeoff, it was positive rate, i hit z to command him for gear up, and instead he did AP1, and then the next time i hit z he did gear

[trim harbor]

y dont u use voice control

[hollow oracle]

i dont like speaking

dont get me wrong, i enjoy the addon, but my experience is still the same as it was last time, just going "why is it doing that???" while frantically searching menus and settings on fs2crew

[dusty sky]

Best plane ever change my mind

[trim harbor]

I cannot say anythikg den

I use voice and it works perfectly

[hollow oracle]

with voice, can you kind of do things out of order, or does the program still expect you to say the right things?

[trim harbor]

well i run the checklists in order

the rest i do just whenever

[hollow oracle]

no fs2crew, but BATC + traffic, very fun

i spaced out and almost didnt respond to tower asking for me to resume normal speed because of the constant noise

all BATC traffic at 7 seems to be pretty good, not unmanagable but pretty busy

[rustic charm]

I was leaving Miami with traffic at 5, I waited a good couple of minutes in order to get the pushback clearance and then same for taxi cause there was just non-stop speech on the frequency and I couldn’t even find a moment to request it

[shadow burrow]

Please don’t I’m still salty about that

[rustic charm]

Honestly the fact it’s been half a century and you’re still salty just genuinely shows how much of a loss that is

[trim harbor]

is that xp or msfs

because i honestly cannot tell

[full plank]

msfs, I don't fly x-plane

[trim harbor]

that's a first in a longggggggg time

[shadow burrow]

I still haven't learned how to use the MCDU

[trim harbor]

flying in africa really does make u use old ways

[wide zenith]

christmas getaway

[dusty sky]

👌

[rustic charm]

Jemland Air

[wide zenith]

might be more of that incoming with me investing a tweeny bit in east coast

although that means 5+ hour flights

(and i'd rather do them in a 75 or 76 pls bluebrid save me from my endless void that not having either in msfs is doing to me dont make me reinstall XP11)

[dusty sky]

What is that, Sherman guns or what lol

Ah

[wide zenith]

🤌

[dusty sky]

👌

[rustic charm]

I need to fly to Iceland at some point

But probably not soon

[trim harbor]

tikme for a g'ole VOR approach in a 777 l o l

inb4 i crash

[rustic charm]

Cause for the next couple flights I’m planning to go for the 727 and push it to the limits. Why is there no ANA/JAL livery… and yeah I know JAL didn’t have any -200s, but does it matter really

[trim harbor]

cargo ops really hitting the spot with the A/P

[trim harbor]

theres an ANA one btw

[rustic charm]

Tbh I really can’t wait for the pax version to come out, will definitely see more liveries made

[rustic charm]

Oh there is one?

[trim harbor]

sii

https://flightsim.to/file/82422/flightsim-studio-b727-200-f-ana-ja8349-4k

[rustic charm]

Oh of course I didn’t see that cause I wrote “All Nippon” into the search…

Welp, time to push this thing over the Pacific then

[wide zenith]

Are the windows just textures?

[rustic charm]

The livery actually seems kinda modern, did ANA switch it sometime or were 727s genuinely looking like that when new with them?

[rustic charm]

Yep, sure are

[wide zenith]

ahhh fair

[rustic charm]

A bunch of liveries are like that

Can’t always fly freight

[trim harbor]

freight best

[rustic charm]

Freight is lovely, but the 727 performs incredibly on passenger

[trim harbor]

i really need to fly the 727 more

only having done 1 flight is a pity

[rustic charm]

Also, which airport would ANA have them delivered to?

[trim harbor]

RJTT or RJBB

RJFF as well maybe

if you wanna have some deicing ops

RJCC

those are the major ones

[rustic charm]

I just have absolutely zero clue about Japanese aviation

[wide zenith]

Flightsim to freeware are masterclass's

I need to do more ops in japan

the mks narita looks cool too

[rustic charm]

Really I think I’d want the furthest point north. The 727s range is stated as 2400-2700 generally, and Anchorage to RJCC is 2800

[trim harbor]

that would be

wakkanai

RJCW

[rustic charm]

Welp I guess I’m not stopping over in Anchorage then. Cold Bay it is, will get me those 100 miles closer

[trim harbor]

try RJCW

they fly A321s there so y'know

i'd expect a 727 to be able to alnd there

[rustic charm]

Oh the 727 will easily land on a field where 319s struggle

[trim harbor]

ye do that then

RJCW to RJTT is about a 1 1/2 - 2 hour hop

[rustic charm]

Puts me at just short of 2600 miles

Which is a nice 200 cut from the previous route

[trim harbor]

https://flightsim.to/file/54014/rjcw-wakkanai-airport

kaze is the goat

[rustic charm]

Still, 2600 miles is gonna be really pushing it. And also what is scary is that for the last half of the journey, there’s just nowhere to go

[trim harbor]

vor

i am very low though

thats spooky

[rustic charm]

While overflying Alaskan territory and for the first 3-4 hours of the journey overall, I could always try turning back or landing somewhere in the Aleutian islands. A 727 at Dutch Harbor is one hell of a stretch, but it might just be possible. Cold Bay is an option for sure. But for the second half… push it to Japan or land in the ocean. Because of course, 60s, and diverting to Kamchatka would result in you being shot down most likely

[trim harbor]

fly the most northern point of alasak thats possible and realistic

then push to RJCW

[rustic charm]

Actually this made me realise, the route overall is gonna be more than 2600 miles. Even to Wakkanai it might exceed 2700 cause right now SimBrief gives me a route that cuts across Kamchatka, and obviously in the 60s they would avoid the Soviet airspace at any cost

Okay so looks like the only way to fit it within the limits is to go from Cold Bay

I’m starting to debate my decision to go through the north

[trim harbor]

how else u wanna go

via EU?

[rustic charm]

Nah, down south and then turning back north through Oceania and Asia

Would take much more time

Plus I really wanna try to push the trijet to its limit anyway

Through EU would mean first going over the Atlantic which is quite a challenge as well, I’ll try sometime later too though. But that would also mean just way too many legs. Starting out in Seattle, I’d then have to go to Halifax, then a stop in central Europe, then probably Dubai, from there to India, then to China and only after that to Japan. 6 legs instead of a possible 2.

[shadow burrow]

Did you butter it?

[hollow oracle]

I butter my landings like trying to spread rock hard frozen butter over soft bread

[wide zenith]

I didn't my excuse was a 35knot crosswind gusting up to 45

reality skill issue and lack of rudder pedals to make accurate corrections

i was seconds away from going around

[shadow burrow]

Were you using live time/weather?

[wide zenith]

live weather but 2-3 hours back as I didnt wanna land in the dark

[rustic charm]

Okay looks like I actually won’t have enough time today to do the leg I’m doing

Gonna shut it for now and redo tomorrow

Better than being near the end and understanding I can’t finish it

Plus I fucked up the takeoff big time anyway

[hollow oracle]

how is there literally no charles de gaulle in msfs

theres that one scenery on fs.to, but it sounds like it requires some elusive asobo version i cant find any info on?

not to mention world updates, i have the space for them, but i dont want to deal with MSFSs downloader if i dont have to

[hollow oracle]

what

[rustic charm]

Everything seems to check out

[hollow oracle]

why is it like that

[rustic charm]

Fr*nch

[hollow oracle]

its always the french

[dusty sky]

Call sign airfrans...

Just say air France damn it

[rustic charm]

You know, it’s not the weirdest one

I find FlyDubai weirder, their callsign is Sky Dubai

I have one question: why

[dusty sky]

It's two letters what's the point

[wide zenith]

I love when airlines decide to rebrand but not change their callsign

like jet2

channex

[wide zenith]

das a french plane

[rustic charm]

Also ever notice how Qatar’s callsign isn’t actually Qatar, it’s Qatari

[dusty sky]

[dusty sky]

Probably saying cuz it's a Qatari airline

Still kinda dumb tho

[dusty sky]

[rustic charm]

Also some of the funniest things with callsigns are the US commuter airlines

[dusty sky]

Oh god

Let's see how bad this is

[rustic charm]

For example take United Express. United Express can be flown under 5 callsigns from what I remember, those are:
Commuteair
Lindbergh
Air Shuttle
Brickyard
Skywest

[hollow oracle]

i really like brickyard

[dusty sky]

Why...

[rustic charm]

Yet all of the callsigns that United Express can be flown under also fly other companies too

[dusty sky]

Also yeah brickyard I my favourite

[rustic charm]

Brickyard for example also is a callsign for Republic Airways themselves, but also Delta Connection and American Eagle which are operated by Republic Airways

[wide zenith]

Kinda like Speedbird, Shuttle, City flyer, Griffin

[dusty sky]

Speedbird?

[wide zenith]

Speed bird yeah

[rustic charm]

Yeah, not BAW lol

The callsign is Speedbird and it’s the best one to currently exist and you won’t change my mind

[dusty sky]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

That's so confusing oh my lord

[hollow oracle]

yeah, you can have brickyard (american), brickyard (delta), or brickyard (united)

[wide zenith]

thats cursed

[dusty sky]

Jem facts right there people 👆

[shadow burrow]

Brickyard requesting takeoff would sound strange

[dusty sky]

Omg it's Christmas yay

[dusty sky]

Lmao

[rustic charm]

Basically, Delta, American and United don’t want to do their own commuter flights. They contract those to other airlines. And those airlines operate all of those under their own callsigns. And those other airlines fly for multiple big ones. And big ones contract everything to multiple small ones

So basically what is possible is you will have 3 planes, a Delta Connection, a United Express and an American Eagle at the same airport and they all will have brickyard as their callsign. While what is also possible is to have 2 American Eagle planes under different callsigns

[full plank]

Even better if you fly something like First Choice or GSS

Both fun callsigns that controllers have a hard time with

[dusty sky]

That would be so confusing to look out of the tower as a controller to see 3 planes with the same callsign but different branding

[rustic charm]

Oh I remember another funny callsign now

So this is a route map of Northern Air Cargo, taken directly from their own website

Guess their callsign?

Yukon

I have no fucking idea where they think Yukon is, but that is Alaska

[dusty sky]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-huh-confused-meme-gif-3282660700962977407

[rustic charm]

In fact if you look on Flightradar and search for airports that NAC served

You’ll see Hawaii

You’ll see Florida

You’ll see even Puerto Rico

But not a single one in Yukon

[dusty sky]

Maybe they mean northern hemisphere...

[dusty sky]

Ok now that's just dumb bro

[rustic charm]

Also about callsigns

Did you know that the callsign Speedbird isn’t actually given to fast birds

It is in fact airplanes, not birds that fly under that callsign

[dusty sky]

[rustic charm]

Another fact, Air Asia has 7 callsigns

[dusty sky]

I'm gonna loose it

You're single handedly ruining Christmas for me with these callsign facts

[rustic charm]

Air Asia (Malaysian): Red Cap
Air Asia X (Malaysian/Long haul): Xanadu
Air Asia Cambodia: Red Naga
Indonesia Air Asia: Wagon Air
Philippines Air Asia: Cool Red
Thai Air Asia: Thai Asia
Thai Air Asia X: Express Wing

Oh and yes all of their planes apart from Air Asia X/Thai Air Asia X are painted in the same liveries as far as I know, the only difference being the flag indicating the country of registration

[dusty sky]

[shadow burrow]

A Ryanair liveried 737 can have 4
FR/RYR- Ryanair
RK/RUK - Bluemax
FR/MAY - Blue Med
RR/RYS - Magic Sun

And all get used

Albeit for MAY and RYS it’s rare

I think RYS gets used the most because there are a metric tonne of Polish charter flights we run

RYR and RUK are used daily tho

[hollow oracle]

i did find out

the asobo one that everyone talks about, is pre-installed and comes free with base-game MSFS

also, i finally completed my first flight in like 2 weeks

LFPG-LFBO

flying baguette

[shadow burrow]

Imagine if someone modded a livery where the plane is just a baguette livery

[hollow oracle]

im imagining something like this

[reef isle]

Obviously Speed bird will always be the best callsign.

Followed closely by Washington Eagle and BizEx

Those two respectively

[reef isle]

I tried my best, but I don't have enough self control to stop myself from pointing our that "speedbird" is the name of the design that's in pfp, which was initially designed for "Imperial Airways" which later became BOAC and then British Airways after some mergers.

I know you know, but maybe someone else didn't, sorry for ruining the joke

[lethal jasper]

My mate just "attempted" a flight over the North Pole... can confirm invisible wall and 1fps death physics xD

[rustic charm]

Yeah, and to be fair, it is a brilliant logo

And the callsign sounds incredible too, there’s a reason why they don’t change it

[shadow burrow]

French Baguette clearly tops it

[trim harbor]

E195 crash

105 dead

Brutal crash footage

Clearest crash I ever seen

[shadow burrow]

Misreported, it’s 67

Idk where people have pulled the 105 number from

Gonna follow this quite closely because I’m not sure if it’s pilot error

Doesn’t look like it to me

Either mechanical or something else

[trim harbor]

Ah

[shadow burrow]

And I don’t think they are all dead either

So that’s a reasonably good sign?

I mean given the footage it’s surprising

[trim harbor]

I was gonna say

Loooks brutsl though

[shadow burrow]

Yeah

Was at very low speed

Massive altitude fluctuations as well as speed

[trim harbor]

Ye

[shadow burrow]

Wait to see what anyone says

By the end of the day there should be more info

[reef isle]

Unfortunately it looks like Kazakhstan's Aviation Accidents and Incidents investigation Division (AAIID) doesn't have a website, so we'll have to rely on the stupid media 🫤

[dusty sky]

oh no another plane

it hasn't even been that long

and on christmas day as well

[shadow burrow]

should be a report pubished by EASA, Brazilian air saftey organisaion, Azeri and the FAA

might just be the same report but eh

[rustic charm]

British Jemways

[shadow burrow]

British Frostways

[rustic charm]

It’s really a weird one… prayers to all the souls lost, waiting for answers now…

[trim harbor]

long flight ahead

[wide zenith]

ay just had to go upstairs to step climb to 340, 7ish hours to go till san fran

[trim harbor]

ur over iceland

[wide zenith]

yuppers, think this is the longest flight ive done in flight sim between xp11 and msfs

still mad I lost all my projectfly data

[trim harbor]

i too lost mine :(

[rustic charm]

Welp, you folks are doing long haul, while I’m starting up for some short one right now xD

[shadow burrow]

Projectfly what is that if i may ask?

[trim harbor]

'long haul'

im abusing the aircraft rather

[trim harbor]

something only real flight sim ogs know

way before msfs

[shadow burrow]

Fair enough thank you

[trim harbor]

volanta but

like

imagine it old

crusty

2016

with a terrible promise

full of lies

[rustic charm]

Redoing the flight I abandoned yesterday, ANA Renton to Cold Bay, while tomorrow onto the oceanic leg

[trim harbor]

thats essentially it

i think simtoolkitpro replaced it partly

and then volanta entirely

the owner unfortunately passed away too due post covid

crossing africa for the first time in msfs

looks funny

[shadow burrow]

Also speaking of MSFS isn't antartica suppose to have a runway somewhere?

[trim harbor]

god i found some of my p3d screenshots

[trim harbor]

theres a few irl

idk abt msfs

[wide zenith]

the throwback

leaving greenland

[untold finch]

Starting to look like it might have been hit by some sort of air defence weapon

very shrapnel-like holes in it
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1hm0ijm/another_angle_at_unknown_holes_in_e190/

[hollow oracle]

is aerosoft seriously not running a christmas sale?

i dont mean this in a fucked up way, but that crash got me thinking about ejets again, and im kinda ineterested in the FSS E175s, but no sale?

[untold finch]

Doesn't seem like it

I'm not really impressed with their slow development progress either, VNAV has constantly been pushed back and back

It's flyable without it but it's a core feature and they're just adding absolutely everything else they can think of first

[hollow oracle]

vnav isnt a killer for me, i usually end up doing that manually anyway, i dont nessicarily trust the computer to get me down quick enoug

even justflight isnt running a sale on it

im not against paying full price, but like, why no christmas sale????

[full plank]

christmas shenanigans

[trim harbor]

funky houses

[rustic charm]

Yeah tbf it looks like FSS are doing worse with E jets than with the 727

Cause for the 727, they promised GNS - they gave us GNS

Or is it not called that

Whatever it is anyway, the system more modern than CIV-A but not too modern

[trim harbor]

different teams too

[rustic charm]

Really cause of all the stuff around FSS regarding E jets and early access I was quite hesitant to get the 727, but I did and I do not have a single complaint about it

[rustic charm]

Yeah, it just looks like one is doing bit better right now…

[wide zenith]

invading

I really hope I remembered to uninstall the default asobo ksfo

[rustic charm]

So, I just had 2 engines flame out in the 727 at 38k. Turns out I didn’t set up crossfeed correctly

[trim harbor]

that can happen?!

lol???

[rustic charm]

Yep

If the engines don’t get fed, they just stop

And I have flown quite a bit now, so my wing tanks, which by default feed the outboard engines, ran empty

And in the 727 it seems that, in order for crossfeed to be effective, it is not enough to just open the crossfeed valves. You also have to turn off the boost pumps for the tanks that you wish to not be using. I didn’t do that, so instead of all 3 feeding from the central tank, I had each engine using its own tank

Also this genuinely gives me no hope for tomorrow’s attempt, at all. I’ve now burned through 37k out of the 54 I have, and I’m not in Cold Bay even. And the distance from Cold Bay to Sapporo (which in the end turns out to be the closest option, going to Wakkanai would take longer because I decided I will avoid ‘Soviet’ airspace) is significantly greater than the distance between Seattle and Cold Bay

[rustic charm]

Okay it doesn’t feel like this 727 is new. VOR just doesn’t intercept. It shows up on the gauge, but does not get used by the autopilot. And the flight director just doesn’t exist. This is gonna be a fun one to land

[rustic charm]

Made it down rather fine. But the fuel is a concern for tomorrow. And also, I completely forgot how awful the default airports are

[reef isle]

@shadow burrow looks like the E190 got shot down

[hollow oracle]

||hawk tuah||

[reef isle]

Oh

[hollow oracle]

i dont want to defend the russian military, but i honestly doubt it (from my armchair, microsoft flight sim perspective)

no trailing debris, no obvious damage or smoke, the aircraft was pitching up and down before it crashed like it was a control failure

unless if it was shot at, and it just happened to perfectly hit an avionics computer and took it offline, or perfectly severed a hydraulics system, but i feel like you would have to get insanely lucky, from a single lone actor, to have that happen

everybody must have their own launcher

(also i ended up buying the e-jets, i got too tempted by regional flights)

[reef isle]

Apparently they found impact holes consistent with a missile, obviously wasn't as big of an impact as the Malaysian plane, but the most up to date theory is that it caused a complete hydraulic failure

Some passengers testimonies seem to confirm the same, same as some debris

[hollow oracle]

again, armchair avation accident inspector, but dont missles make big boom when they contact their target?

or is that hollywood

[reef isle]

Depends

[reef isle]

For example in the Malaysian flight 17 the missile bursted in mid air and the shrapnel kind of "cut" the aircraft in two

https://youtu.be/tKVrUAnzrhc?si=HZxzNEL8nRbC6xtO

This should be good to understand how most of these missiles work

It could be that if the missile was coming from another direction and/or exploded at a different distance the damage it caused was different.

[reef isle]

That would be consistent with this kind of damage

[hollow oracle]

i can definitely see that, i havent seen that photo yet either, just the video

i think what is absolutely 100% conclusive is that it was a hydraulic failure at the very least, the very high likelyhood culprit being a missile

what is really fucking crazy is how a hydraulic failure is almost certain death

[hollow oracle]

honestly, checking out the E175 briefly, im very impressed for $40

i havent flown it, but just sort of poking through systems, i feel satisfied itll be a fun flier

itll make for some super fun commuter flights

i think $40 is pretty reasonable honestly, they seem to provide the same support and everything as TFDi and their MD-11, and i paid over $100 for that thing

[trim harbor]

If only vnav

[hollow oracle]

that is a hard agree, once it gets vnav though, itll be a no-brainer to buy it

[trim harbor]

For sure

They said vnav this year

Though owell

Delays

[hollow oracle]

even without vnav, its not a deal breaker, you can just manually set stuff and go for it

which is how i flew airbusses for a while when i was still learning

[trim harbor]

I expect 2 years after release for it to have vnav

If pmdg can do it

They csn do it

[hollow oracle]

I’m spoiled and can’t fly gauges, so that’s a big plus for the ejets too

As long as it has lnav and autothrottle, I have no issues flying without vnav

[trim harbor]

Does it have ATHR?

[hollow oracle]

I haven’t checked, but I would think that would be mentioned

[trim harbor]

I want the tu154 for xplane

12

Pain

[lethal jasper]

It has "currently" LNAV and basic autothrottle

[rustic charm]

Oh it definitely was

They’re saying a bird strike

But ain’t no bird flying good enough to hit the horizontal stabiliser form the bottom

Also if you compare the damage to what other anti air hits have caused… very similar stuff

Plus all the other factors, such as anti air not actually having very advanced recognition systems, so a flying object is a flying object

And something that is said to be ‘of no relation at all’, there was a drone attack on Grozny yesterday morning. Exactly where this plane was supposed to land, at the time roughly when this plane was supposed to land. All together it seems like there are the exact conditions for a terrible mistake to happen

[shadow burrow]

Ah

[trim harbor]

That isnt necessarily true

[rustic charm]

That isn’t true when you have very advanced anti air overseen by well-trained personell, let’s just put it that way xD

[trim harbor]

I didnt wanna say it but

Yeah

Russian anti air isnt the most modern lets say

Especially in a „unguarded“ border as such

Doubt they‘d use their newest stuff ibr

[rustic charm]

Absolutely, and the people managing it… well, there’s always chance those are responsible people. But I’ve visited the army, and I know how it mostly is xD

[trim harbor]

The sad thing is

It isnt the first time it happend

Terrible

[rustic charm]

Oh absolutely not the first time

And to be fair, it’s not only Russia who made such mistakes either. Unfortunately things like this happen, which is awful…

[trim harbor]

I find it ironic that

Russia doesnt seem to care too much

Given how important and expensive their airspace is

I dont think airlines will return flying over russia if stuff like this persists

Especially since I think that the routing costs might just be too much now

[rustic charm]

Well, to be fair, once the conflict is over there will be absolutely no reason for anti air usage

So I doubt that stuff like this will be possible when airlines even consider flying over Russia again

I guess they charge a premium for the airspace simply because it saves a bunch of time

[trim harbor]

They do

Russia charges alot of money iirc

[shadow burrow]

People said that after KAL 007

[trim harbor]

What hapeond w KAL007

[rustic charm]

Shot down

A 747

[shadow burrow]

It’s the same difference, if this was AA (and let’s be honest we still don’t know if it was) then Russia will get a lot of stick for it, the azeris are gonna be pissed and in the end nothing is gonna change.

[dusty sky]

And what about MH17

[shadow burrow]

Baku might get less Russian flights

That’s about it

[rustic charm]

Was flying from Anchorage to Seoul, took a wrong heading and ended up over Soviet airspace. Flown over Kamchatka without being intercepted, but then got shot down by a fighter once it was approaching Vladivostok

[shadow burrow]

It’s the same thing, in the end nothing really changed apart from airlines going “nah fuck that” and not flying over that area

[rustic charm]

It was, in reality, essentially the same situation. There was at the same time a USAF plane spotted on the radar in the area, and they just mistook the Korean flight for a spy plane and shot it down. Same situation yesterday, mistook it for a drone and shot it down

[dusty sky]

Remember seeing a thing that it could have been just mistaking it for an American spy plane

[shadow burrow]

The Iran air one as well that the yanks shot down

[rustic charm]

Yep, an Iran Air 747 got shot down too once. Didn’t really change anything

[shadow burrow]

I’m shocked that it managed to make it that far before crashing tho

[dusty sky]

I don't remember if it was an A300 or an A310

[shadow burrow]

A300

[rustic charm]

Oh I thought it was a 74 as well

Either way, no matter the plane, it’s still a terrible mistake

[dusty sky]

That one mostly got shot down out of fear and a lot of miscommunication

[trim harbor]

This

[shadow burrow]

I would assume this one is the same

It had to divert to the odds are it was on vectors to Aktau not following an airway and they misidentified it as a drone

[rustic charm]

That’s most likely exactly what happened

[rustic charm]

Okay I set off to RJCC and realised I forgot to install any scenery for it

I’m too lazy to restart everything, so guess I’m gonna just fly default

Meanwhile some screenshots from yesterday’s first leg

[dusty sky]

Very pretty

I love the landing one, it's very nice

[rustic charm]

Just for the record, having done 1 flight to/from Cold Bay already puts me on the volanta’s top 10 leaderboard for the airport

[dusty sky]

Damn that airport is dead

[rustic charm]

Once I finish this one, I’ll have 2 flights with Cold Bay, and that will make me tied for #1 spot

[dusty sky]

Yep, dead airport

[rustic charm]

That is of course if I end up completing this flight, cause I’m not sure I can actually

The route is 2400 miles, should be within 727s range. But yesterday I burned a fair bit more than I expected

[dusty sky]

Go higher I guess?

[rustic charm]

No, go slower instead

Climbing very high right away would only make me burn more fuel

[dusty sky]

[rustic charm]

I’m right now going for a very shallow climb to my initial cruise of 36000, and then I’ll have 2 steps to FL380 and FL400

[dusty sky]

Hmmmmm

Bit high for the plane ngl

Wait what that's lying to me

It's 42000 so you should actually be fine

[rustic charm]

Yeah

Well, I’m not in the end

I left home now

And remembered I forgot to arm the altitude

Looking at Volanta, it just kept climbing trying to achieve the vspeed I asked it for, it got to over 40k and now it’s totally stalled

Guess in the end I’ll restart once I’m back, so gonna install the sceneries then too

[rustic charm]

Yeah, and it can fly higher than 420 too

I actually have already pushed it to the service ceiling too

And it was in a loaded plane as well

Hell, I’ve pushed a loaded 737 to 420 even though its ceiling is 410

[rustic charm]

Actually seems like it has more or less stabilised itself around FL290, it’s even climbing now. I’ll redo the flight anyway cause this is gonna cause another stall, and I’ve probably lost too much fuel in it anyway

[rustic charm]

So I came back

The plane was still in the air

But the most interesting part is how

Cause it was at 30k, flying 125kts IAS, trimmed full up and with the AOA of 15 degrees

[wide zenith]

salt lake city

[trim harbor]

man

i kinda want sayintentions

[rustic charm]

Tbh the ATC does make the game a fair bit more fun, but I can’t vouch for sayintentions

[trim harbor]

https://www.sayintentions.ai/pricing

shitty pricing but

the features

[rustic charm]

One of the reasons why I went for BATC in the end is the pricing

I don’t like subscriptions

And really sayintentions seems to have 2 major advantages over BATC: VFR and emergencies. But at the same time, I don’t fly VFR, and if I’m falling out of the sky in the 727 while trying to work for 3 people alone, well ATC communication is gonna be my last concern. Plus, both will eventually come to BATC too

[trim harbor]

sayintentions is alot more than atc itself

[rustic charm]

Yeah

Well of course there’s cabin crew, instructors etc

But I don’t really care for that much

[trim harbor]

im split

ill wait for new batc LLM

[rustic charm]

Well tbf, most likely you’ll have to wait a fair bit for that

Considering it’s not in early access yet, and if judging by traffic, it might be a couple months before it goes into the main branch

[trim harbor]

Q1 2025

[rustic charm]

That’s reasonable tbf

[hollow oracle]

is it a sin to sub in an E175 for a CRJ-200

i want to do the michigan tech flight, but they only fly CRJ-200s on that route, and the CRJs that we do have dont even go that small

but, it is operated by skywest united

[shadow burrow]

Yes

CRJ-200’s are way fucking cooler

Love the little fuckers

[hollow oracle]

They’re basically bizjets with as many seats crammed in as possible

[hollow oracle]

nevermind, CMX's navigraph data is beyond fucked :(

it turns out that, the smaller airport you go to, the higher chance you wont actually have accurate charts or data

[trim harbor]

installing autoortho for xp

pain

@shadow burrow when ur back home we should do shared cockpit

that'd be quite interesting

[shadow burrow]

Yes

[trim harbor]

u own p much all planes right

wonder how well it works w vatsim

[rustic charm]

Depends on what’s your stance on subbing in planes

I’ve done a 737 flight in a 777

A 737 flight in a 727 as well

Myself I really don’t mind subbing planes, as long as they are realistic for the airports (so flying an A380 somewhere it can definitely not land is a no for me)

[shadow burrow]

nearly

everything worth flying lets say

[shadow burrow]

well, vatsim shared cockpit mode is quite good

[trim harbor]

does the 777 v2 work

w shared flight

[shadow burrow]

no clue never tried it

idk if the shared cockpit mode is reliable

[trim harbor]

it is

shared flight for sure is

i tried it b4

[shadow burrow]

oh yeah it is

but it varies between plane to plane

[trim harbor]

ah

i only tried the toliss buses' plus the felis

worked fine

shits taking 8 years

[hollow oracle]

not a great takeoff, but i did takeoff successfully on my first ever try

climbs just fine too

the biggest issue im having right now is that the glareshield indicators are not lighting as they should, but they are showing on the waffle on the PFD

and i cant close the cabin door for some reason?

the throttle is confusing too, its a weird mix of airbus and boeing logic, so i need to learn that a bit better

follows the nav line just fine too

the price is definitely right for $40 imho, though there are still some pretty big bugs, as shown

if you want it, get it, if you dont, then dont, your not missing out if you dont care for flying regional jets

[hollow oracle]

hm, annunciator test doesnt do anything with it either

[hollow oracle]

why would this be an option

[hollow oracle]

pink mountain

[wide zenith]

Portland, nice to be flying back to airports i used to frequent in xp11

[hollow oracle]

nevermind, im encountering some severe MCDU issues with the e-jets

i cant manually input my flight plan

no airways, which is whatever, i guess i can just put in the waypoints manually, but then every time i try to place the waypoint in the flight plan, it just puts it in randomly

i press R5 to try and place DAIFE above RW9C, but instead it jumps up to above WEEVR

i am very, very frustrated

it doesnt help that, in a tutorial from a year ago, waypoints, airways, and stuff like that, actually worked

what happened in a year where they somehow managed to fuck up the DEFAULT MSFS MCDU???

no DIR, no holds

im very, very tempted to charge back on my credit card because holy fuck is this not what i purchased

i bought based on the tutorials and things i saw, but this is literally, objectively worse

it technically works

technically

the freeware c-17 is literally better than this

managed to get airborne despite it all

i honestly dont even know what happened to me between the last flight and now, i dont know how i was fine and didnt notice it before

its like, if it works, it works fine, if it doesnt work, you might as well give up before you try

[lethal jasper]

You know its still ea for a reason xD

[trim harbor]

It should be finished by now

Ibr

[rustic charm]

Well I really hope e jets will be finished soon

Quite fine planes, just we don’t have a complete and good version

[hollow oracle]

early access is a steep name for something that would barely even pass as freeware

You have to “stay on the marked path” to get it up and running, and if you don’t, restart the entire flight and set it up again

[shadow burrow]

Just wait for the Xcrafts one, it’s going to be the same as the XP E-Jets with the exception of the Legacy 1000 whenever that actually releases

I think they already have some systems ported but idk I’m not really following it