Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[trim harbor]

i just now notice my settings r on low

bruh

[echo gorge]

lol

[trim harbor]

gigachad

[trim harbor]

please come for xp12 :(((

[shadow burrow]

is antartica 4xp not for xp12?

[trim harbor]

727

[shadow burrow]

oh lmao

[echo gorge]

that's a long flight

[trim harbor]

huh

[echo gorge]

have any of you tried out the freeware tweet? it's honestly pretty nice

[trim harbor]

the only airport i had windshear at, twice...

-620 fpm

[echo gorge]

oof

[reef isle]

Why the bad livery

I think only a few MD82s that were leased to AA for a short amount of time had that

I want the metal shine

[echo gorge]

984TW wore that for it's entire time in aal service https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10474204

[reef isle]

Interesting

Well but that's the standard metal one

[echo gorge]

yeah it is

it's just the lighting isn't really making the shine come through

[reef isle]

Oh I see

[echo gorge]

here's the same livery in clear weather

[trim harbor]

few targets

[echo gorge]

fun

[trim harbor]

bruh

[reef isle]

Default DCS AWACS moment

[trim harbor]

yeaaa

[dusky leaf]

Very cool indeed

[trim harbor]

coming from the tomcat to the mig21

i don't think i've evern flown a museum piece as that

[reef isle]

got bored

spent €65 in total, Xplane and 727, same price of the MSFS F28

[trim harbor]

i recommend you get autoortho with simheaven x world

they're free

only do it if u run an ssd thooo

and if u have a few bucks spare get enhanced skyscapes for clouds

[reef isle]

Eh...

I'll see

for now all I care about is the aircraft

[trim harbor]

fairs

[shadow burrow]

Yeah if you want to look for stuff XP will look better than msfs

Or as good

[crisp adder]

Since the FBW A320 got its newest update I thought about fireing up MSFS again after taking a longer break. First up was getting back into the ´Bus and flying a very short hop from EDDS to EDJA in Southern Germany. Went well so far.

Shoddy parking but I had to hurry a bit.

With the FBW A320 now having basic VNAV capabilities, does it mean it can fly RNAV approaches?

[inland cape]

It's had VNAV capabilities for a long while but they've only just pushed it to stable afaik

Don't think it has RNAV tho

[reef isle]

It has

it could always do RNAV approaches

you just had to do it "raw data" by just using Vertical Speed (of FPA), it's less accurate, and thus you'll have a higher minima, it also requires more workload, but you should be able to do most RNAV approaches

[inland cape]

Yeah I cba with that crap I just fly the Fenix instead

[reef isle]

Just saying it has RNAV and you can do RNAV approaches 😅

[inland cape]

Does it finally have the TOD indicator?

[reef isle]

Haven't flown the FBW in a while, but I thought it had it for a long time in Dev?

could be misremembering though

[inland cape]

No idea I haven't flown it in years

[reef isle]

I think I remember having that when I flew it about half a year ago?

[crisp adder]

It does, yeah. Infact it has a whole suite of various VNAV markers: https://docs.flybywiresim.com/pilots-corner/advanced-guides/flight-guidance/vertical-guidance/example/

Ooof, that´s just cheesy. 😅

[echo gorge]

Enjoy it, the 72 is a blast

[echo gorge]

looks like flightfx is making a Citation X, I'm incredibly excited

#1169044544201949275 message

glass but not g1/3x glass

finally a quality properly properly large and fast private jet

of course it'll probably be quite a while before it comes out though

[trim harbor]

F to the hawker

:(

or whichever it was i forgot

o falcon x

[muted carbon]

Inset: POV you are about to become an entry on the “Incidents and Accidents” subheading

[reef isle]

I got Xplane about 24h ago and spent 10 hours to install stuff, troubleshoot and making sure the sim ran nicely and most of all was stable. Definitely looking forward to flying more, but I think I'll take at least a 1/2 day break from flight sims

Basically setting up Xplane was the entirety of Saturday night and Sunday

I'm far from being the biggest MSFS fan, but at least that's one thing it does sort of well. It's mostly usable out of the box, or it was for me at least

[echo gorge]

Oof, I don't remember it being that bad 😅

[reef isle]

I had two crashes after about 1h of flight, after 2 flights I pinned the problem down to being better pushback, removed it, and did 2 more flights to make sure it was stable

That was the biggest time sink

[echo gorge]

Oof yeah, that sucks

[reef isle]

Yeah but at least it works now... Not having better pushback isn't ideal but whatever

[echo gorge]

Ehh you're flying the 72, powerback time

The loss of betterpushback's a real shame though, it's genuinely the best pushback add-on in a sim

[reef isle]

Yeah I might try and do some more troubleshooting in the next days

[untold finch]

Definitely not the case with the Islander. They released a decent V1.0, then revamped it entirely with a V2.0.

I love EFB-based pushback myself

The default one with the transmission lag was atrociously thought through

[echo gorge]

https://flightsim.to/file/58299/justflight-fokker-28-mk-4000-air21-airlines

[untold finch]

Sadly the latest Navigraph Navdata update seems to have switched off all VOR beacons worldwide

Fortunately they are seemingly aware and are working on the issue

Nice to get a chance to use ADF/NDB though

[untold finch]

KPSP hell yeah

Love that airport, definitely going to give this livery pack a go

[echo gorge]

Best callsign ever as well

[untold finch]

just plotting a route between Palm Springs and Fresno, as they seem to have done

avoiding NTTR is one thing, having to use VORTACs to do it is another

[echo gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906731291133747240/1130873586492649574/image.png?ex=65538899&is=65411399&hm=ebe2737b90bcfb643e4bafe14fa5941bd392de0df27cb5cd579408172888299e&

[untold finch]

Ah, they never went direct

KSFO will be fun though

[echo gorge]

Luckily out west you've still got loads of jet airways making things easy

I like the PSP-LAS and LAS-GJT routes a lot

Flightbeam sfo can't come soon enough though

[untold finch]

TIL Flybe operated the 146

[echo gorge]

Yeah, carryover from Jersey European

[lethal jasper]

Naha, always a fun place.

[untold finch]

Spokane (KGEG) -> Seattle (KSEA)

[echo gorge]

https://flyingironsimulations.com/blogs/news/dcs-a-7e-development-update

[echo gorge]

how do you like it? I've been meaning to get it once it goes on sale

[untold finch]

I like it a lot. It sounds incredible, looks quite nice, flies believably, has some neat features. There's a big update for it coming out this/next week too, overhauls a lot of it.

[reef isle]

I'm more excited about the G-91

Much less capable plane and probably won't be as good

But G-91 😄

[echo gorge]

G-91s are cool, but they're not a corsair

[trim harbor]

bye oki

i went direct to the last waypoint

kill me now

[untold finch]

KBFI -> PANC

The default 747 is actually pretty good now, I'm surprised at how well it handled everything. VNAV was a bit gung-ho at points but nothing crazy.

[echo gorge]

that's good to hear

[untold finch]

310R?

I need to get back into GA stuff... just hard to do in the dark

Or at least, defeats the point of flying VFR

[trim harbor]

i need something like fseconomy but not old and shite

no offense

ga is fun when it gives u small places to fly to imo

[echo gorge]

yeah

[echo gorge]

I know what you mean

I've generally found motivation either by flying to interesting freeware airports or by what interesting airspace I can play with on my flight, for example the SF bay flyway

or the SAN VFR corridor which literally takes you over the field at the center of the bravo while still being class E

[trim harbor]

hype

[echo gorge]

Let me know how it is

[trim harbor]

Once i get around to it

[untold finch]

Quick lunchtime jaunt from Lee-on-Solent to Compton-Abbas

the winds over CA were hell, constant gusting
the little Arrow was being thrown all over the place

[fluid gull]

compression hitting hard

[echo gorge]

how is it?

[fluid gull]

Quiet fun :)

Love the UV Lights

[echo gorge]

they look quite nice

[echo gorge]

the transponder looks so out of place

[fluid gull]

actually yeah, doesnt fit into a WW2 Plane somehow

[crisp adder]

Flying into Akureyri on Iceland. Last year I drove by that airport, it´s a really pretty area and a very cool approach. Off-set ILS is really quite cool.

[trim harbor]

tfdi website so slow

im gonna start crying

[trim harbor]

mmmm bugs

looks great tho

@echo gorge shes in alpha but from my first takeoff and just flying around, she flies ok

visual r superb

sounds r better than the rotate md11

there are bugs

both visual and systems

e.g

[echo gorge]

I just wish it was a DC10 instead of an MD11, so many more routes

oof

[trim harbor]

we're getting there w the classics

so im happy

the efb is ok

shes heavy trying to turn

but a F18 when trying to go up and down

lol

[echo gorge]

supposedly that's known and just one of the unfinished bits, but still seems odd to release in a public paid beta with issues like that

[trim harbor]

tbf

they delayed it once

1k people paid i think $100 for it

they had to release it

not a bad release though

im sure once it enters beta most issues will be adressed

better than a certain ERJ for MSFS rn though

[muted carbon]

Model looks pretty good at first glance

[trim harbor]

100%, its well made

[reef isle]

I think I finally sorted Xplane crashing in the 727

I'm so happy

[echo gorge]

vfr on vatsim's so nice

[shadow burrow]

who tf is the donny sitting next to you

[echo gorge]

bob, he's an idiot

oh wow the horizon line is noticable at sunset

[echo gorge]

the dead eyes

[echo gorge]

saw a true chad as well

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Z9Gq6Gx80

[untold finch]

Hawker-Siddeley Trident when

[untold finch]

gamechanger imo - will completely replace FSLTL for me, as long as they can get a good variety of models

FSLTL absolutely murders my frames

[trim harbor]

will replace vatsim for me

i use fs traffic for traffic rn

it's alr

[untold finch]

the only issue for me is the pricing model

obviously they haven't released actual numbers but it's going to be pay-as-you-go, essentially

could get real expensive real fast

[trim harbor]

tbh though

depending on the price

it may be worth it

i'd need to see actual unbiased footage

especially on how the voice recognition works

because some games have problems picking up non US accents

[untold finch]

indeed

though i think that's gotten better over the years

[trim harbor]

theres that atc game

towerpro

horrible

[untold finch]

here's what Azure charges for their services... $16 per 1 million characters. If we assume that an average ATC message has 200 characters, that's 5000 messages. Reckon that you'd probably chew through ~500 messages or so on a 2-3 hour flight with AI traffic included, so that's 10 flights for $16. Wonder how BATC's pricing will compare

200 might be a little excessive though, I think that's maybe what a clearance message or taxi message would include. "Climb to flight level whatever" or "contact X on 123.456" is a lot shorter

plus a buck an hour to convert our voices into something BATC can understand

honestly, if Asobo/MS have any sense at all, they'll buy this out and implement it into FS2024

[shadow burrow]

You pay for your model matching?

Or am I being dumb?

[untold finch]

No, I'm talking about Beyond ATC's yet-to-be-released pricing for their AI-generated audio

I just use FSLTL, completely free

[shadow burrow]

Oh god damn hahaha

Got me worried

[untold finch]

I think you can use BeyondATC for free when it comes out, after buying the initial product, but it'll be text only, no audio

[shadow burrow]

What actually is this?

[untold finch]

Here's what it was initially pitched as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjvaa3VOpUs
and here's what they're also including:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Z9Gq6Gx80

It honestly looks like the best ATC implementation for MSFS, nothing else comes close

[shadow burrow]

This just seems like traffic global?

[untold finch]

Watch the first video

it isn't just traffic, it's a complete replacement for MSFS' ATC

[shadow burrow]

Yeah this is traffic global for xp

[shadow burrow]

YOOOOOOO

[untold finch]

Again, no

[reef isle]

Starting to get the hang of it 😄

[untold finch]

It uses actual good-sounding AI speech synthesis, with regional accents, to generate audio, it uses proper ICAO and FAA procedures as opposed to whatever Asobo invented, and it has voice recognition so you can actually talk to it with your own voice rather than just clicking on a thing on the screen

[reef isle]

Next step will be using cyrillic cockpit and then transition to the B2 variant 😬

[shadow burrow]

Traffic global adds ATC, live traffic, other traffic communication, but it’s from like 2015 I think? No voice recognition and the controllers sound a bit weird

This is essentially the same thing but with a better text to speech engine and voice recognition

[untold finch]

huh, the description for TG doesn't mention ATC but I'll take your word for it

[shadow burrow]

What one u looking at?

[inland cape]

Have they fixed the atc being quiet in cruise?

[untold finch]

but yeah, this is going to be like VATSIM, but fully staffed across the globe, and for people who don't want to talk to real other people

[shadow burrow]

The one for XP has it through the standard XP ATC interactions

[untold finch]

Ah, ok

This completely replaces MSFS' standard ATC

which is, honestly, half-baked

[shadow burrow]

XP’s one doesn’t really need a replacement lmao

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDC8wqeIUs
here's a sample flight from Heathrow to Schipol

[untold finch]

It seems like there will be comms in cruise, depending on how busy the airspace is

[shadow burrow]

Even in unmodded you still get full clearance, ground, tower and departure

Centre is weird because it can’t really track you?

[untold finch]

Yeah, we get that in MSFS too, it's just janky
the centers seem to work based on very badly-drawn lines, so you end up being passed back and forth between the same two centers quite a lot

and the comms are not really based on either ICAO or FAA from what I can tell

[shadow burrow]

TG fixes this for the most part as well

Because you need to factor in other traffic

[untold finch]

indeed

but yeah, i love how the voice synthesis sounds in this

and having proper regional accents makes so much difference
no more generic american-sounding person following you from the states to Japan to France

[shadow burrow]

Tbh I just use vatsim whenever

[untold finch]

I would but I'm europe-based

[shadow burrow]

As am I

[untold finch]

huh, has it gotten better?

[shadow burrow]

So I get ATC whenever

[untold finch]

I remember it being very US-centric

[shadow burrow]

Nah

Hold on

EU you get staffed centres pretty much every day

I did LGW - Corfu a few weeks back and that was fully staffed from Gatwick ground to decent below FL280

[trim harbor]

Vatsim but offline

[shadow burrow]

Had Tower, Gatwick Dep, London Centre, Amsterdam, Langen, Munich, Wien, Eurocontrol East

Like EU is now way more staffed usually than US

[trim harbor]

Sadly

[muted carbon]

tfw I can't tell from this description if you're talking about MSFS 2020 or FSX lol

FSX had a lot of the same issues with center weirdness

[shadow burrow]

I don’t think I’ve seen many 2h+ routes in the US be fully staffed, even during FNO’s

[muted carbon]

I get the feeling that they may have just reused a good chunk of the FSX backend

[untold finch]

huh

[untold finch]

sorta
the way it works is fairly different, as it's pulling voices from Azure or something, but the logic is still quite jank

[shadow burrow]

Might get Toronto - JFK, or SFO - LAX but that’s about the max range your gonna get

[trim harbor]

That really depends

Midwest usually isnt as staffed

West and east coast are

The problem is timezones

If you‘re split across 5-6 timezones its not as easy to have everyone online at the same time

[shadow burrow]

@untold finch this was vatsim ATC coverage on wednesday at abour 18z

[echo gorge]

And that's pretty usual

Europe tends to be both well staffed and extremely busy

[reef isle]

Europe after roughly CET dinner time is always packed

so starting from about 18z all the way to 20/21z is always really busy

Also good chance of always finding at least 1 or 2 CTRs open at other times as well, especially Poland, Adria and Athina

Even now at random stupid o'clock when everybody is at work there's still a CTR, and few TWRs and APPs

[untold finch]

huh, TIL

shame it's so dark now, want to do more daytime flying

[reef isle]

where's dark?

[untold finch]

Europe after working hours

[reef isle]

well... as long as people have "normal" jobs with normal working hours it's always going to be like that unfortunately

or just fly during the weekends where a lot of places are staffed throughout the day

[trim harbor]

Or just dont fly real time

[reef isle]

HOW DARE YOU (/s)

[trim harbor]

I dont know if I ever flew real time on vatsim

I fly the times the actual flight usually flies

Esp when flying US-EU

[reef isle]

I always fly real time 🙃

[trim harbor]

I couldnt

[shadow burrow]

I try too

but sometimes u gotta see that ortho

[shadow burrow]

also ew use vatglasses

[reef isle]

Can I see for how long a controller has been online?

[trim harbor]

Vatspy

Real og program

[shadow burrow]

yes

[reef isle]

last time I used it I couldn't figure out how

[echo gorge]

Honestly map.vatsim.net is really handy with its visualisation of approach coverage

Other than that though vatspy is the best

[trim harbor]

It‘s been the same forever

[dusky leaf]

The DCS Hind finally got a campaign 🥳

[untold finch]

Not yet, it didn't

It's the official one that comes with the module, meant to be coming next patch. I hope it's better than the unofficial one that's on the e-store, which was really very eh.

[reef isle]

Is that the IFE one in MSFS?

[untold finch]

yep! it's surprisingly good

it's not DCS level of course, but it's deeper than I expected it to be

[reef isle]

IFE is good 😄

[echo gorge]

IFE?

[reef isle]

indiafoxtecho

can't write today

[echo gorge]

ah, yeah

[fathom fable]

I have just realised I made a mistake before I started my nine hour flight to Frankfurt

I forgot to edit my flight plan to swerve Ukraine and Russia do I or do I not manually change the heading to avoid the airspace or do I just continue on because it’s a simulator?

[reef isle]

I guess you either edit your flight plan with new waypoints or just ignore it

Definitely not heading

[fathom fable]

Well I forgot to swerve Afghanistan so I guess I will just ignore it

Won’t make this mistake again. I was tired as I started the flight early so it was bound to happen

[reef isle]

I wouldn't worry about it, there's no risk of getting shot down in a sim ahahah

[fathom fable]

Yeah I just like the realism but I have learnt now and will remember next time I do Extra long haul

[reef isle]

Survived the huge polish VATSIM events in the Tupolev. Not ideal as my first VATSIM flight, but I survived without any mistakes so far 😬

The fact it has the KLN90B makes it infinitely easier, I'm getting a headache just thinking about flying this non-RNAV

but I'll have to do it at some point

[trim harbor]

infinite respect

for flyign that thing on vatsim

[reef isle]

I made it 😄

EPWA-EKCH

[full plank]

based Copenhagen

[shadow burrow]

nice job

most people dont make it off the ground

[trim harbor]

🐱

[fathom fable]

How.. on earth did I land an A330neo at Coventry. Getting here was easy but the takeoff I will need Jesus to take the wheel

6500 ft runway 😳

[fathom fable]

I just managed to takeoff by using a static takeoff

That was a ‘Oh shit your pants moment’

[trim harbor]

pimp my f14

spamraam heaven

[fathom fable]

The sight of a big Lufthansa at an airport it’s not supposed to be at is a funny sight and knowing Lufthansa’s history of sending big planes to smaller airports it’s also quite a normal sight

(EGBB) (BHX) Birmingham Airport

[echo gorge]

🤔

[shadow burrow]

Hmmmmmm

Seems like they are branching out in operations

It’s a shame the EU business model of Budget Airlines doesn’t really work in the states

It kinda does in Canada with airlines starting up there but eh

To few major centres

[echo gorge]

I'm an excellent pilot

[untold finch]

damn this game is pretty

[trim harbor]

based plane

[untold finch]

aye

[untold finch]

finally arrived

[dusky leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072974190778519594/1173861340566270052/PA-18-210_KingCubFloat_-_2023-11-14_06.43.23.jpg?ex=65657e90&is=65530990&hm=b2fdd95193cc189dfe404476f2ab6455cae1fea9218fadd7bb75678a7a3baa6c&

[untold finch]

Did some NZ sightseeing

[echo gorge]

How do you like the m500

[untold finch]

I like it quite a bit. It does feel a little twitchy, especially on approach, but it's a decent cruiser. It's definitely not the long-range luxury boat that the TBM 850 is, but I'd say in terms of sim depth, they're on par. M500 EFB is one of the best I've seen.

[trim harbor]

AIM152 r quite hot

[untold finch]

Quick hope from KDEN -> KASE today in the CJ4. Turned into a bit of a Sarajevo approach at the end, as I remembered that a LOC approach and an ILS approach are two different things. 😎

i'll take it though

[echo gorge]

Yeah that LOC is quite something

It's very easy to get super high on approach without realizing it, and quite hard to correct once you're high

[untold finch]

Moscow Domodedovo -> Norilsk (may god have mercy on their souls)

[trim harbor]

https://vxtwitter.com/eagledynamics/status/1725529475075698839?s=46&t=qqEYqwJcw0_I1yQnrQzx5g

[dusky leaf]

http://flightsimsurvey.com/2023?partnerid=navigraph

[echo gorge]

How is the Russian ortho?

[untold finch]

I didn't really get to see much of it honestly

I left Moscow, with DD's Moscow Landmarks pack on
and I didn't really see much of the ground until I landed in Norilsk, which had a freeware airport

ETNW -> EGHI in the freshly updated Transall C-160

Went VOR/TACAN the whole way, was good practice

[trim harbor]

whats new?

i was looking to buy the transall

but apparently it's super basic rn

[untold finch]

In what sense?

[trim harbor]

the fms apparently was quite useless

[untold finch]

Lotta bugfixes, more fully fleshed out FMS, paratroopers and airdrops

[trim harbor]

oh

well well well look at that

a fully fleshed fms

[untold finch]

It can do quite a bit more now yeah

Full flight plans, more autopilot features, etc

I like VOR/TACAN nav though so

[trim harbor]

might be worth a purchase

[untold finch]

I would say it definitely is
it's not exactly PMDG or Fenix level of polish, but it's a bargain in comparison

[trim harbor]

a320 neo

feel bad for fbw but it looks good honestly

[reef isle]

I've heard that LNAV is crap, and sometimes the progression between different phases can cause issues. Apart from that seems decent

Still not a proper neo though

No new TCAS controls and radio panel

Don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's a bit of a shame since it was developed from (nearly) scratch

[echo gorge]

still only the leap though

[shadow burrow]

Toliss on top

What’s the latinVFR stuff like anyway?

[echo gorge]

garbage

[trim harbor]

it's still alpha though right

its not released to the public

i doubt inibuilds would release garbage

[reef isle]

Well it's not garbage

Just that I doubt it'll ever be anything like Fenix level

perhaps it'll be a slighlty better FBW

[trim harbor]

ok but tbf

it's free

people are taking stuff being free as a given

[echo gorge]

my big question with the new A20N is why we need another a320, give us a 330, 340, 350, anything but an A320, heck maybe even make something from another company other than airbus, I'd kill for a quality EMB-145 for example

[trim harbor]

that is what i questioned too

[reef isle]

Sorry l didn't mean to criticize, just sharing my opinions and expectations, it's not bad that it won't be Fenix level

[reef isle]

It's mostly for Xbox people

[untold finch]

Yeah, it's getting kinda silly at this point

Some Kiwi HEMS work tonight

[echo gorge]

that thing is very tempting

[untold finch]

HPG do, imo, the best helicopters in MSFS by a long way

The airbus helicopters are so autopilot-enhanced that you don't really notice the very average MSFS helicopter flight model
And to be fair, HPG have a bunch of extra stuff written into it to enhance said flight model

I usually hand fly them, and while it isn't DCS-good, they aren't a million miles off

Plus tuning into local radio stations while flying is a feature every aircraft should get

[echo gorge]

oh that's cool

I've got the taog alouette and it's pretty fun, not dcs level or anything though

the HPG stuff's glass cockpit and price tags have kept me away so far, but darn if they aren't tempting

what do the rest of you think about the upcoming FSS P2012, I'm interested in it for CAIR, and afaik their previous tecnam was pretty well recieved

[untold finch]

I watched a video about it earlier actually - it looks superb

Very few bugs in the preview version

Looks like a modern Islander

[echo gorge]

pretty much, just g1000 😭

much rather a quality C402

[fathom fable]

I recently did a lease reclaim flight on the flight simulator to Toulouse with an A321neo from Aeroflot and it actually felt weirdly cool

[echo gorge]

uhh, lmao

[ocean trellis]

will that give you supersonic power ?

[echo gorge]

yup

I know what I did that broke it, so it's an easy fix at least 😅

gotfriends is having a sale by the way

[echo gorge]

https://flightsim.to/file/64145/sfal-port-stanley-airport-falkland-islands-upgrade sweet

[trim harbor]

bolter

kittycat

[trim harbor]

https://fselite.net/content/miltech-simulations-shares-ch47d-chinook-previews-and-features/

[shadow burrow]

Cold Late Arrival into Rovaniemi

[dusky leaf]

Dreamfoil S300

[echo gorge]

The jf vulcan's surprisingly cheap https://stormbirds.blog/2023/11/21/just-flight-confirm-price-and-release-eta-for-msfs-vulcan/

[trim harbor]

probably so more people will buy it

[echo gorge]

Yeah, understandable imo

I wouldn't be interested in a Vulcan at airliner pricing, but at the lower price I'd be more inclined to pick it up at the lower price

[trim harbor]

i agree with that

[untold finch]

28 quid? blimey.

[inland cape]

Tempted to pick xp12 up since it’s on sale

[reef isle]

Yay! Found a way to update the magnetic dev

[muted carbon]

TFW you reach top of climb and already have to declare a fuel emergency

[shadow burrow]

installing p3d for the first time since 2019

[untold finch]

https://youtu.be/dacGpxAa6pY

[reef isle]

Standard DAM ops

[reef isle]

Nice ❤️

hopefully he does a Mercure for MSFS

[dusky leaf]

Nice 🛟 What is it?

[untold finch]

It's Mario Noriega's Nardi FN.333

It's super cheap from the inibuilds store atm

[trim harbor]

based

[fathom fable]

It’s only £10 and it’s convincing me

I’d need to learn this thing like learning a completely new type rating as I fly airbuses

[shadow burrow]

The FF777 can look ok when you can't see the gear

[shadow burrow]

E-Jet in EETN

[untold finch]

Just some short flights today

[untold finch]

The only real challenges with it compared to an airbus are:

• reading Cyrillic (you can change it to English if you really want)
• converting all the ATC instructions from feet to meters, which the EFB can do, just a pain to plug it all in

[shadow burrow]

The Cyrillic is easy once you get the letters, most of the translations are pretty simple over from Latin script and Germanic languages

That included with most aircraft sharing a common design principle (Autopilot locations and modes, Light positions, Pumps, ect…) makes some translations quite easy

I did some for the PilotSanya TU-204

[untold finch]

yes, i can read Cyrillic myself

lot of aviation loan words 😄

[shadow burrow]

yeah its cool

[untold finch]

quick duxford - goodwood flight through the rain and clouds

[untold finch]

Operating the HM Coast Guard service out of Inverness tonight. Hardest hovering I've ever had to do.

[echo gorge]

@reef isle piedmont virtual added airpac schedules using your skin, congrats

[reef isle]

Oh really? I'm so happy 😄

Thanks for letting me know

[echo gorge]

Yeah, I'm just happy I get to log my airpac flights in the fokker va 😅

https://youtu.be/2v5P2aSQ3m8?

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEulwi-kguc

[shadow burrow]

ooof

LIRQ - EGLC

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_VSCJMIxfs

[echo gorge]

bought the fss embrear in the sale, it's definately not complete but outside of the missing vnav and load manager is pretty much there

the missing vnav's a bit of a deal breaker, but once they add that I think I'll be quite happy with it

[untold finch]

I'm really tempted but I still want to wait until it's more complete

VNAV is apparently used quite a lot IRL

[echo gorge]

Yeah I believe so, I certainly don't intend to fly it much until they add vnav

[untold finch]

They seem like they'd be great for short flights where you don't want to sit down for 3 hours or more

I do sometimes see the KLM Cityhopper ones, they're quite nice
I think I'd probably get more use out of a 145 or their upcoming 195 though

How's it other than the missing VNAV/load manager stuff? Sounds good? Modelling and texturing hold up?

[echo gorge]

Sounds are good, textures are alright, functionality is pretty good imo (outside of vnav) honestly if it weren't for the vnav I'd say it's a really good plane for its price

[untold finch]

I assume it can do all the simbrief import stuff, maybe navigraph charts too?

[echo gorge]

Yep

Though I'm not certain whether the fmc can import flightplans or not, I didn't get it to but I could've screwed up

[untold finch]

Weird. I'm guessing it must be a different team to the ones who work on their Tecnam products, because those seem to come out fully baked

[echo gorge]

my best guess is that the money ran out with the e-jet and they needed to release or fold

[untold finch]

Fair enough

Ah well, Vulcan tomorrow hopefully. I'm looking forward to seeing the armada launch from Ascension and stream toward Port Stanley on Volanta.

[echo gorge]

it honestly looks great, I love how JF just gets better after each release

that said I don't personally find the vulcan particularly interesting, but its pricepoint is very reasonable

[echo gorge]

https://secure.simmarket.com/sundownersim-msfs_nas-miramar-late-1980s-msfs.phtml honestly this looks quite cool, even if it's not really for me

[reef isle]

I'm patiently waiting for my beloved A220

Honestly it's the only modern plane I'm really hyped about. I love it so much

Hopefully we'll have some good news soon

[shadow burrow]

hot start are working on one for xp

the ones who made the most detailed plane currently in the sim

[reef isle]

I know

Although I assume that won't be out for a long time

[trim harbor]

See you in 2028 at the earliest

Isnt there a freeware one for msfs in the makings

[full plank]

yea, Synaptic Sim

[echo gorge]

So far the systems previews they've shown off look very good, but we'll see

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypbp_PrrOdw

[ocean trellis]

tomcatting

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laCrMTm6fw0

[echo gorge]

it's really quite incredibly well done, just a shame they made it and not a vc10 (or better yet 707 or DC8)

[reef isle]

I think I might buy it

[echo gorge]

if you like the vulcan and aren't entirely put off by military aircraft in a civil sim it's really fun

[echo gorge]

ace combat?

[heavy schooner]

Yes

[ocean trellis]

@echo gorge i dont want to write you an dm but also modmail is bugged for me lol, but what is the minimum age to be in this server by the tos ?

i thought i ask here since its quiet

[echo gorge]

13 iirc, afaik that's the discord limit

[ocean trellis]

alr fair

since ive seen somewhere that its rated for 16 but maybe thats a german thing only lol

[ocean trellis]

me want in dcs

[untold finch]

Ended up in Prestwick after going low-level through the lake district

What. A. Plane.

There is nothing else in MSFS that is quite like this

[echo gorge]

it's quite something isn't it

[untold finch]

That sound when you push the 201s past 80% throttle
every time it gets me

[echo gorge]

I really like how they handled the engineer's panels

[untold finch]

I do too, the tablet is a nice way to switch
just wish it didn't reset the VR view each time

and having navigraph and simbrief available via the standard EFB features is really nice

[echo gorge]

yeah, would be funny to see navigraph add a vulcan profile lmao

[untold finch]

Would be quite a challenge to get one right

I've done one for the C-160, that's about it

took ages to look up what all the equipment codes mean

[echo gorge]

they're a nightmare

I really need to pick up the C-160 when it next goes on sale, I'd rather a C-130, but afaik blackbird/milviz is making one of the modern c130s

[untold finch]

seems like people are enjoying the Vulcan all over the land

[untold finch]

It's really good since the latest patch, all the bugs that I previously saw with it seem to have been fixed

[fathom fable]

The A330 lives up to its name as the butter machine at EGNX

[trim harbor]

2 weeks.

[untold finch]

Just had to do another flight to get it back home to Scampton

I could quite honestly fly this thing all night. Learning new stuff every time, like how the fuel CG gauges only actually show you the correct value when you press the button next to them, and they're not just always saying that you're really nose heavy...

And how the simbrief OFP will tell you that the correct frequency for an NDB is 348 when it's actually 347.5 🙃 good thing I know what York and Lincoln look like at night...

[untold finch]

146 is so cool

[echo gorge]

yeah it really is

[untold finch]

managed 50 minutes before I fancied stopping for dinner, surprisingly fun and not really all that difficult imo

[echo gorge]

glider flying can be quite fun if you're in the right mindset

[untold finch]

Yeah, and Boulder is ideal for it

That was in the LS4, just tried in the Discus 2C now that the sun's gone down a bit and oh boy was it a lot harder

Gliders need to migrate south for the winter or something

[echo gorge]

I've heard it's best to always fly with custom weather, apperently live weather can bug out a bit with gliders

[echo gorge]

that the freeware BDU?

[untold finch]

it is yeah

[untold finch]

that's what i've heard too, think live weather is a bit buggy in general right now

hopefully SU14 will fix it, though I think winter is just rougher for gliding in general, fewer thermals

[echo gorge]

yep

[fathom fable]

This was supposed to be a flight from East Midlands to Belfast I did last night

It instead became a flight from East Midlands to Lough Neagh when both my engines rolled back and I had more than 1200 kg fuel left

[echo gorge]

https://www.justflight.com/in-development/f70-100-professional#entry20231130

[trim harbor]

omg finallyyy

no word on when yet though

sadly

[echo gorge]

hoping we get it or the RJ early next year

[muted carbon]

love the belt loader that's been shoved INSIDE the forward bay with like a foot of vertical clearance

[echo gorge]

yeah, I've honestly been tempted to delete GSX cargo loading altogether on the 146, it looks goofy

same for the F28

[muted carbon]

yeah in reality they'd either use one of the small lawnmower engine powered belts or just forget about it and get the baggage cart as close as they can

[echo gorge]

yup

[trim harbor]

atr based

[untold finch]

ikr

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLRC7paCeVA

drippp

[untold finch]

I go back to the Apache every so often but it never really grabs me

I'd rather just jump in the Hind most of the time

[echo gorge]

cool

[echo gorge]

based

[untold finch]

Love the jetways at wellington

It's flightbeam right? Or was it NZA

[echo gorge]

I love everything about wellington lol

Flightbeam, NZA made NZCH (which I should pick up and round out NZ with

[untold finch]

Their NZCH is awesome

Super detailed inside

The A320 route between them is a good lunchtime trip

[echo gorge]

Join me in begging JF for an F27, it'd be perfect for there

[untold finch]

They gave me the Vulcan, I can ask for no more

Maybe a Nimrod...

[trim harbor]

apache is mid tier at best

imo its not a very good helicopter usage wise

alot of the stuff it can do it doesnt do good

[echo gorge]

Ka50, hind, and gazelle are all you need

Ka50 if you wanna murder an entire army from outside their aa bubble, hind if you wanna roleplay a shturmovik that's somehow carrying atgms, and the gazelle if you wanna be an utter gremlin hiding in treelines

[untold finch]

Hip for when you want to blot out the sun with rockets

Full 6 pod barrages are a hoot

[echo gorge]

Yep

And huey for when you don't feel like being optimal in any role but just want vibes

[trim harbor]

hip is amazing

american helicopters are a disappointment

idk why

russian helis r sm better in almost every way

the huey is painfully slow from my experience

[echo gorge]

Yeah, I love the hip, just always forget its startup

[trim harbor]

thats what the ka50 is like for me

i bought it

i cant flyit

it feels so utterly complicated

[echo gorge]

The huey is really fun to fly (and has the best campaign) but is just outclassed by everything else

I honestly find the ka50 pretty easy (except for maintaining sa)

[trim harbor]

i've relearned the hornet recently

not too big of a fan of the C but it's the only one we have

it's actually quite easy once u get the hang of it tbh

[echo gorge]

I can believe it, still probably never gonna buy it

[trim harbor]

i just love naval aviation and it's really the only fighter we have (minus the cat)

[echo gorge]

The only spamram bus I'm tempted by is the eagle, and that's because it's likely the closest thing we'll ever get to the vark

[trim harbor]

dogfighting in the eagle 💀

f14 with amraam mod is also not bad

[echo gorge]

Yeah same, but it's just button pushing, one of the early 18s and I'd be tempted, the dorrito's great fun and an 18 with a similar avionics suite would be cool

[trim harbor]

we can only hope

but tbf

A6 gonna be amazing

[echo gorge]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that and the a7 more than any other blue aircraft

[reef isle]

(Barely) Survived my second non-RNAV flight with the Tu-154, this was the first time I relied mostly on memory for the switches and procedures (to get ready to switch to the russian cockpit), and first time I had to do a proper CAT II ILS

I still need to understand why I need to set the course both on the HSI and on the pedestal though

Once I'm ready to switch to the russian cockpit then I can move onto the Tu-154B, which is an even older version of this one (the M variant)

[shadow burrow]

I think its because they are both redundant systems that work in tandem

a few russian jets have weirdness like this

AN24 has it for sure

[reef isle]

I see, but I need to set in on both things, otherwise it will go off in weird directions

[shadow burrow]

might just be russian dev jank?

idk

[reef isle]

I definitely think they both do slightly different things

because the CDI bar seems to only move in relation to the course in the pedestal, but the A/P seems also to care about what course I have in the HSI, I'll have to take a few minutes to do a "test flight" and mess around with it and see if I can find a pattern

OOOOH maybe I get it

Perhaps I can use the Course pointer in the HSI as a Heading (or track?) select, and monitor the CDI, when the CDI shows how much deviation I need before turning I can change the CRS in the HSI to the CRS I need to follow and it will "capture" it automatically

[reef isle]

Nevermind it's not that

[untold finch]

Tonka and Tiffy for me, I get bored of the US-centric nature of DCS

Want something that can have a proper RAF squadron badge on it

Even if they're just going to be German versions with fancy paint schemes

[echo gorge]

The typhoon's quite cool tbf but it's not for me

[echo gorge]

The tornado will be awesome though

I'd love more French planes, the kfir should be fun as well

[untold finch]

yeah

there are so many irons in the fire right now
will be interesting to see which ones make it and which don't

I reckon the F-100D will, and that'll be a blast

[echo gorge]

The hun should be fun against the 19

[reef isle]

C A T F I S H

Am I the only one excited for the G-91?

[echo gorge]

I really like them and think they're cool irl, but I'm not massively excited for it

[reef isle]

That's fair enough

[echo gorge]

at one point I was pretty excited, it's entirely possible I will be again 😅

I'm most excited for the 23 (and 29 if that actually happens)

[reef isle]

Not super excited about the 23 for wathever reason, but I'd love a high fidelity MiG-29

[echo gorge]

I'm mostly just excited for the 23 just as a more capable red fighter

but I do think they're pretty cool planes

(ground attack variant but still)

I do wish we we were getting a B not an M, but even the fighter versions are super cool

and it should be a bit closer in performance to the F4 when it releases than the 21 is

[echo gorge]

I love how all the engines are slightly different in the 146

[trim harbor]

they leaked pics of it today

im hyped

cockpit literally looks like a mig23 tho

https://fxtwitter.com/razbam/status/1730564942447640741?t=qqEYqwJcw0_I1yQnrQzx5g

[echo gorge]

Lovely, so lovely

[crisp adder]

There´s a Tornado in development?

[untold finch]

Yep, early Luftwaffe IDS

[crisp adder]

Oh, that´s nice. Haven´t followed DCS in a while. But a Luftwaffe Tornado sounds really cool. Hopefully there´ll be other versions, as well. Might be just the plane to get me to install DCS again.

[untold finch]

Vancouver -> Bella Coola

[echo gorge]

How have you liked the box

[untold finch]

It's great so far. Not the prettiest textures, especially inside, but it handles very well, sounds great and flies like I'd expect it to

[reef isle]

Tried the Just Flight L-1011 in P3D thanks to a friend of mine

and unfortunately it's not good. DLC definitely doesn't work as it should

I think I'll buy the Captain Sim one in the future and hope that's better

If that's bad as well I'll be extremely disappointed

[untold finch]

Captain Sim is uh
Not good

[reef isle]

Captain sim back in the day used to be one of (if not the) best add-on maker

it's like a totally different company from the one that makes the MSFS pieces of crap

completely different people, completely different goals

I'm still very frustrated that I'll be funding their current endeavors but oh well... I don't think my €30 will make a difference

[untold finch]

Ah, ok

[trim harbor]

the cs one for p3d is good

[untold finch]

wonder what happened to them with MSFS then

[trim harbor]

cs stuff was really damn good

fs2004/fsx

[untold finch]

i'm guessing they just couldn't adapt to the new SDK

[trim harbor]

idk what happend sadly

but their 707 and stuff was good as hell

i loved flying that

[reef isle]

most likely then they just got greedy

they saw easy money and just took it

I have no doubt they've made millions with all their airliners in MSFS, and now they also sell liveries

I bet they've sold a lot more products than just flight (for example) and all their stuff costed A LOT less to make

also I've heard that not many people that worked there when they made P3D/FSX products work there anymore, whether that was the cause or the effect I can't really say

[reef isle]

👀

[untold finch]

Activate Windows!

Been ages since I've seen one of those

Also, I can't make out the livery. What is it? Looks like a 707 or something?

[reef isle]

Freeware Boeing 720 in Alaska livery

[trim harbor]

morning sortie

[shadow burrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/FlightFactor/status/1730264887702511682?s=20

why did they take a video

[echo gorge]

I love winter flying

[echo gorge]

I also love failing to take account for the tailwind in ToD calcs and descending far too early 😬

[untold finch]

regretting not getting the got-friends wilga now

i bought their discus 2c fes, and the optica to replace the half-arsed orbx one, but the wilga looks even better

[echo gorge]

it's lovely, don't understand why it's so high a price but it really is great

[short quail]

777-300ER to Edmonton,AB Canada from Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta Intl

[mortal furnace]

@untold finch tiffy your getting is german

And tornado is well away

[untold finch]

I know, I said that here: #1165354616993632397 message

[untold finch]

Forgot how painful it is to update MSFS

You'd think they'd have sorted a reliable CDN by now

[echo gorge]

yeah, took probably two hours for me 😒

[untold finch]

Picked up this little gnat of a helicopter. Really impressed so far, feels way more natural than the default Asobo ones. Not a million miles removed from DCS helicopters, at least as much as an MSFS helicopter can be.

[echo gorge]

I've got that dev's alouette, it's really nice as well (though afaik the lama's supposed to be better)

[untold finch]

I just bought the Alouette based on how good the Lama is

It sounds exactly like you'd expect it to sound, got that proper scream to it

This is probably the nicest flying helicopter I've found in flight sim so far honestly

[ocean trellis]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/316964/DCS_MiG21Bis/ should i buy it in the next sale

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[echo gorge]

Yes

[short quail]

Flying Out of Charles De Gaulle International Airport Almost 3000NM to OMAA

[untold finch]

It's one of the oldest DCS modules and it really shows. Quite a few of the systems are bodged together. It's going to get a rework if Magnitude 3 ever finish working on the F4U, but that's a ways off I think

Took the Hondajet out for a spin from Farnborough to A Coruña

The approach mode was kinda weird, didn't seem to acquire the glideslope for some reason

Definitely user error though

[echo gorge]

It absolutely shows its age but it's still an all around blast, it hates you and wants to kill you but once you learn to deal it can be great fun

It's also a pretty good all around plane that can do every role for mid cold war reasonably well, from ground attack to interception. (Though the f1 can also now do Jack of all trades I think)

Really though it's just fun

[ocean trellis]

My advantage is, i know russian

And i just miss soviet planes

[reef isle]

Couldn't agree more - I have it and it's a lot of fun, this being DCS is still extremely good, just not as good as it can possibly be

[short quail]

A380-800 Going to Winnipeg

[echo gorge]

ruh roh

[echo gorge]

saw the lights about 20ft above minimums

[trim harbor]

https://www.thresholdx.net/news/jester

ah

[trim harbor]

i really need to get the tbm

it looks super nice

[echo gorge]

That's the new pc12 actually but yeah the tbm's great

[untold finch]

How is the new PC-12? I hear it didn't have the greatest launch ever

[untold finch]

I want to support HB/IFE and buy it, but boy does it not come cheap

Cheaper than the DCS version, but not cheap

[trim harbor]

woops

i like the avionics it has installed tbh

they're digital but not annoyingly big

just perfect in my eyes

[trim harbor]

35 bucks is actually quite fine in my eyes

for what u get

albeit idk weapons employment in msfs

not too much of a fan of jets in normal flight sims, seems kinda useless

[untold finch]

There isn't any

Yeah, it's fun for a joyride, and to take the aircraft to places it's actually been like Miramar rather than just messing about at Nellis

This is why I tend to only buy bombers, because most of their flights are essentially ferry flights with 30 seconds of bomb door open time

[trim harbor]

b52 my wife

where are you

or c17

i would crave for one fr

[short quail]

Winnipeg to Regina,SK

[echo gorge]

Honestly pretty good

I've encountered a couple bugs, but overall I really like how it feels to fly

[untold finch]

Neat. It's definitely on my watchlist.

[short quail]

Winnipeg Landing with Jet Blue A320neo -32Fpm

Still on the Move To Regina

[echo gorge]

the TBM is definitely better simulation wise, but I honestly prefer the PC12 (at least for now) on sounds alone, which is where the TBM really falls flat

[untold finch]

It's frustrating that none of them are really the best of all worlds

[short quail]

is the Caption Sim 777-300ER any good No But itll get you around

[untold finch]

TBM has hands-down the best systems depth
M500 has some of the coolest customisation and probably looks the best?
PC12 seems to be the best sounding

[echo gorge]

honestly both of them are quite good and I'm happy to have both

[untold finch]

Gotta stick it harder than that

[echo gorge]

don't have the M500 though

[short quail]

Want me to Bust the Landing Gear

[untold finch]

It's pretty, but it is way too twitchy

[untold finch]

You wouldn't break the landing gear at 320fpm never mind 32 😄 generally you want a "positive" landing so that you're not floating halfway down the runway, and you're actually actuating the weight-on-wheels sensors

[echo gorge]

it does make me jealous given it's got an actually usable load manager

[short quail]

But I Featherd the American 777-300 Last Night in from KBWI from IAD last night 49 fpm

[untold finch]

and that's fine, but generally from what I've heard, a reasonably "solid" landing is encouraged to prevent float and just to get the thing on the ground within the touchdown zone

If you're buttering it on into the touchdown zone then there's a good chance you were under the glideslope, I think

[short quail]

there is one Landing witch is Hard is CYAM

152Fpm at Regina

[echo gorge]

I've never really understood the hullaballoo about landing rates (unless dicking about with bushplanes, then it's fun to see how low you can go)

[untold finch]

yeah, glideplath is the main indicator really

as long as you're not bouncing off the runway you're probably okay

which I definitely did not do the first time I flew the Nighthawk

I blame Nellis' runway for moving

[echo gorge]

as long as I'm below 500 and I don't bounce I'm happy

[untold finch]

Depends what I'm flying really, some aircraft are more fine with that than others

I wouldn't try that in the Mriya, for example 😅

Then again I've seen real pilots bounce C-160s

[untold finch]

Well that's me sold

https://tenor.com/view/tomcat-head-bang-gif-22747352

[shadow burrow]

does MSFS have actual weapon modelling

like shoot shoot

bang bang

[untold finch]

No

Which, to be fair, is not what these aircraft spent most of their service lives doing

[shadow burrow]

fair enough

I've never understood why XP has that

its not like people are really using it as a DCS alternative

[untold finch]

To try to understand the mind of Austin Meyer is to know madness

I think the guy just wants to create the ultimate aircraft sandbox

but yeah, the main reason i'm buying this is to support heatblur
more support for heatblur, more money available for them to make Phantom/Tomcat/Viggen/Typhoon/Intruder good

[shadow burrow]

never a truer statement has been said

[echo gorge]

the new sunsets look so nice

[short quail]

Gotta Butter it into KSLC hear soon

[short quail]

i use Volanta for my FLight Tracking

[crisp adder]

They often fly PC-12 into our small local airport (EDFM if you want a challenge, there's a very well made free scenery pack for it 😉) and your screenshots really tempt me to buy it. The price is pretty fair for the quality, it seems, and it'd be a nice change from the airliners I currently fly. 🤔
Now if someone would develop a Dornier Do-328 for MSFS...

[reef isle]

I watched it on stream and I wasn't impressed

I don't know why the whole cockpit looks like the wrong "aspect ratio"? (Too tall), sounds like a hair dryer and definitely has a very MSFS flight model

Textures look really good, but after flying it in DCS I wouldn't be able to switch

[ocean trellis]

also the weapons dont work lmao

or do they work ? i am not sure

[trim harbor]

No

It‘s just to fly around

Nothing more

[untold finch]

why would they? It's not a combat simulator

surprisingly, they've actually modelled Main Lobe Cluttering and notching for the radar

and they've simulated INS drift

[untold finch]

Good lord it is pretty.

[untold finch]

Not sure which stream you watched, but it sounds like the DCS version to my ears and it has the same aspect ratio on my screen

Flight model - yet to test

[reef isle]

Hm, interesting

[ocean trellis]

i was just wondering since theyve modeled the weapons on it

[reef isle]

Yeah then, possibily something either on my end or that stream

[untold finch]

They're visual only, though the drop tanks work of course

Maybe in FS2024...

[ocean trellis]

Fair

[echo gorge]

new a306 teaser

[shadow burrow]

icl

this looks like the one that came out 2 years ago just with more polish

better textures ect

[echo gorge]

yeah pretty much

I'm most excited for JF's A30B, but the A306 will still be very nice for AAL and cargo stuff

[echo gorge]

thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to give it a go there

I've quite enjoyed it (though it's absolutely not perfect)

[crisp adder]

I recommend doing the Rwy 27 approach, as it takes you over the Odenwald mountains right down into the Rhine basin. Taking off westwards is also really cool.

What features do you miss with the PC-12? Does it come with Simbrief integration, btw?

[short quail]

Night time KLM Flight

[untold finch]

I know the feeling. Took off at night, flew through sunrise, approaching sunset and a nighttime landing. Not bad for a ~6 hour hop across the pond.

[short quail]

This is gonna be 8-9Hrs total

[echo gorge]

It doesn't have simbrief integration, it also uses the default load manager (like all SWS products) no maintenance or wear either. That said they've said they'll be making an efb, which should solve simbrief imports and the load manager issues. It's a bit squirrelly on takeoff and landing but it's both predictable and minor if you fly by the numbers, so I don't really mind. There's some more minor bugs which I expect will be fixed and the elevator trim speed is atrocious but apparently that's actually accurate.

[untold finch]

Nothing like a 6 hour flight only to hit Amsterdam at 15fps (lol longer journeys optimised my arse) and touch down at 840fpm 🙄 think i've decided that the 787 is not my cup of tea when it comes to hand-flying it

and to top it off, Volanta decided to edit my flight plan after ending the flight, so it looks like i was way off where i was meant to be

huh, apparently some of it is just the Horizon Sims 787-9 ground handling being a bit wonky

[short quail]

Moving at 487kts

is the 777 Just like the 787

[echo gorge]

no?

[short quail]

Welp Going the Speed of SOund

[untold finch]

That isn't the speed of sound 🙂

Think that's about M0.8-0.9

[short quail]

571Kts now

[echo gorge]

gotta love a 95kt tailwind at FL230

[short quail]

on the Decent into Malaysia now

[untold finch]

ain't that the truth

[untold finch]

NZ east coast?

[echo gorge]

nope, PVU-AXX

[short quail]

94/6kt Tailwind now

[untold finch]

https://www.flightsim-studio.com/e-jets-status-report-12-2023/

[short quail]

-60Fpm at KITH

[untold finch]

ohhhh dear, looks like something's going on with Taog's Lama

[echo gorge]

Uh oh

[untold finch]

yeah, he's completely locked down the discord

wouldn't be a sim community without some small dramas

[untold finch]

first aerocache, not a bad one to start with 😎

[short quail]

I'ma Regreat this

[untold finch]

@echo gorge look what you've made me do

[echo gorge]

Hope you like it

[untold finch]

Me too! Surprisingly cheap for what it's meant to be

[untold finch]

almost tempted to leave the GNS430/530 in

the NG will have enough glass, not sure I need another plane with the PMS GNT750 in it

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIIRG_tanXA

[echo gorge]

I ran it with the pms on Thursday when premium's free but used the 430 otherwise

The msfs 430's better than the free version of the pms imo

[dusky leaf]

I will probably get the simworks PC12 and I dont really like MSFS, but the chances of an XP PC12 are slim

[untold finch]

I bought a lifetime sub, can't say I've regretted it

[echo gorge]

I've considered it, but I'm just not a huge fan of the 750, I'd happily pay for a 530 that could manually load .pln files or import simbrief plans though

[untold finch]

That's the dream

I'm happy enough to load .plns through the world map menu for now though

[echo gorge]

It's mildly jank but I enjoyed the rep pc12, even despite carenado's carenadoness

[echo gorge]

I've just given up and manually plan them in, it's sort of cheating but being able to type them in with the keyboard is a lifesaver

[dusky leaf]

The Crapenado was always…..crap 😆

[short quail]

you guys fly Vatsim ?

[echo gorge]

Yeah, pretty frequently

[short quail]

Check my Flight out Doc Callsign UPS1102

A330-300/P3F

[echo gorge]

Enjoy your flight

[short quail]

we need to do a TSC Group Flight one of these days

[lethal jasper]

Looking to get back in to flight sims, unfortunately need a new pc, any pre-build recommendations for meduim to high graphics settings?

[short quail]

No to IbuyPower

there Sketchy

whats your Budget and are you in the US? @lethal jasper

[shadow burrow]

winds are "interesting" over the atlantic today

[lethal jasper]

2.5k usd

[short quail]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-computers/cs-9050024-na/vengeance-i7200-gaming-pc-i7-11700k-rtx-3070-1tb-m-2-2tb-hdd-32gb-ddr4-3200-cs-9050024-na

[lethal jasper]

You got one of those?

[ocean trellis]

💀